#🔧│keyboard_modding
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a little too late for the discount 
I mean you could try a singaporean one
They also do worldwide shipping but idk how much it would be
LOL
ilumkb
Make sure you say raw he btw and not just geon raw
Because there is actually a geon raw switch that’s not he lol
Na ktechs
oh ktechs
Those guys are based motherfuckers
ngl i though ktech meant korea lmao
too much ktown kmart propaganda
Do you guys think its worth it to get the 60HE module if i got the normal one? Or Should i just get the new 80HE?
Idk you bro ive been on that jpop grind
Sometimes when someone said family
I think its family mart
80HE
If you got the space for it
and patience
soo many raw
when will they do 'cooked' switches
those would be lekker v1s
There are durian switches
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Aww, it's not HE
Yea which is a big L
lol keep it up
Audio from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3nfweteZck
Funny how I didn't notice this one but noticed the one from episode 8 almost instantly.
This is @chilly mural Rn going on a grind waiting for that new line of HE switches
I feel slightly conflicted weither or not this is a Durian
Sounds like mao san wang
I mean like, the siwtch itself. It needs to be a full green with a brown stem or a full yellow with a light-ish brown
And MUST be milky
yes. because durian is a milk
Theres also ice durian LOL
hmm, raw he sounds better
100%

I had a durian drink once. Never again.
I don't like durian 
uhh, that one is an abomination.
Better eat it RAW
Strawberry for life 
@fluid ravine do your tx ap plate mounts still have issues w wooting pc plate or no
that problem w the release was it or something like that
i know you have a standard wooting 60he and i wanted to change my stabs on my old wooting
Ist a gamble
Ive eaten durian
drank that shit
Etc they were great
But i can only take 2 before i vomit
better play it safe w stock stabs? its just my backup anyway
i was gonna put black knights into them
You could just run c3 equals or other stabs
Stock stabs are also good
TX AP are a gamble cuz they dont usually fit into the plate and it is usually a QC issue on their side from what ik
i have the tx ap clip ins rn before my knight v2 come in for my 60he+ and those are fine for me even though some reported issues but id like to play safe lol
thanks man
I mean if it works for you
Then it shldnt be a issue
yes but im planning for my old board so id order plate mounts
if its a qc issue i wouldnt gamble it ngl
but plate mounts SHLD work
the screw ins got issues from what ik
ahh yes well thats what i was asking about
O mb then shld work
@young lantern https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S481KPPXZ4 Just hear this and install your TX Ap plate mounts on your board and see if it works cuz im 100% sure even tho i dont got it
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LOOL
So much autotune though 
na its a cover shldnt be a autotune
Cuz the vocals are clear but idk
Covers can have autotune... Listen from 0:19
@untold wigeon NAAA IM SEEING SOMETHING SO OUT OF POCKET RN
Very robotic sounding type beat
Yea i heard it
For this one I don't really like the song and I don't like what I'm seeing either 😭
its legit a MV
dance
Its not a bad thing though
Ok either way im done sending music ima get off
Ye
I'm just picky when it comes to J-pop
i as well dw
Tatsuya kitani and Eve are my goats
A lot of people like Ado too but I don't really hear the hype
I love her music tatsyua is nice and eve theres also kaji furze
Im still waiting on hiroyuki to do a hype music again
I think a pretty big draw for Ado is like vocals specifically
na bro her vocal game is good
Thats what I mean
O i didnt read that part nvm
Like a big appeal of her is the vocal range
Ye
I dm'd you some songs you might like 
Lmk what u think
Not rn but when ever
Does anyone know if the "Fuji Dual-Rail Magnetic Switches" work with the 80he?
they just look like recolors of gateron open bottom dual rails switches, even says gateron on them
so likely they work
but it's safer to choose something from gateron, or lekkers, or geon raw he
or at least check if the magnet strengh is similar to other switches that are known compatible with the wooting pcb
Can I lube my wooting switches with my nut

My little warrior has enough to lube up a 60he, I'm glad I don't have the 80he, I'd need a bigger soldier for that beast

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Can someone explain to me how the snappy tappy (socd) is transferred to the wooting60he? I saved it on the beta page but it doesn't transfer to my keyboard. I wanted to play Valorant with it
Jades max coming
you giving me FOMO 😭
my raw HEs are also on the way but w the new jades coming out I now have FOMO
Do you guys have any Keycap recommendations for an ISO Layout Keyboard?
I like the standard double shot PBT Keycaps that are included with the 80HE but they are very stale in design. (no budget limit)
Don’t worry. The raw he is great vs the newer gateron switches still
Cam found Jade pros similar but with raw he being a tad tighter than even the pros
thats good to hear I like it tight
I think the wob or bow options of wooting look decent but they are ABS if I am not mistaken
light or darker colours
and they are for the 60 layout
raw he
raw he (this message was typed using raw he)
Sound test once they arrive? 👀
someone got a site where you can buy quality keycaps?
Here
thank you!
Of course
any1 know the best seller for raw he switches in the US ? located in california if that helps
off the geon site its 20 dollars shipping 😄
For California def Divinikey
They're based out of LA, super quick shipping
awesome ty
Staebis installed. Can’t wait to get home and assemble everything.
Staebis + Geon wires
do you have the plate with you?
I’m planning on getting them once it gets closer to November and Wooting cancels my Jade switch pack, its tough getting a real sound test for em
Nope
Will post the final results later today
Gonna try nylon plate first then pp and alu
anyone know anything similar to this but in red ?
dudee i saw that im just so sad they made these maroon and not red
Would be interesting to know what % the different colors of the Zink cases people have chosen for the 80HE preorder. Like how many went for black/white/raw.
Or all 3
waiting for wooting to make a purple pcr translucent
wooting pls
answer my dreams

Hey you heard about a new camping backpack from peak designs?
Bro if they made a deep blue one that'd be lit
Don't they make cam bags?
na they making outdoor now
Oh. I've got their camera attachment system from their first Kickstarter
O nice i got their 10L everyday sling
Their harness system is a running vest
oh interesting. I use their everyday backpack as my main camera bag
I needed a sling so i went for it
There is a local UT company here called Wandrd and they do something similar
i'm familiar with em
yo these are rly cool, ill look into them cheers
my raw he's are coming in as well
Hmmm who would you say make the best quality PBT with shine through legends keycaps?
That configuration doesn't usually come with quality
hello, does anyone know where I can find good quality keycaps for my 75% kb ? I'm not sure of where to look at
i use a classic ANSI qwerty keyboard
Is the gateron magnetic jade linear or tactile?
Neither
HE switches aren't linear tactile or clicky like MXs
They sound clacky tho
they are linear big bro
also tactile he exists
and clickies too
chat what do we like more OEM profile or Cherry?
SA
Cherry
They are basically identical. Cherry is just shorter
Although I'm using OEM and it's still great
I thought we weren't calling them linear even though it was a straight path lol
Someone told me that a while ago
Yea that was a screw up
Linear
theyre linear bc no bump
Cherry
Yeah sm1 told me a while ago that HE switches can't be linear clicky or tactile
cherry has higher qual keycaps
who are they
Didn't make sense
is there any type of type of he switch that are tactile?
I don't think they're on the server
🤣🤣
Yeah but they suck I think
@jade storm find out who said this.

may I know what are those
MTNU 
I will.
Also tactile/clickies are dumb for changeable ap
Unless u can also physically move the bump
bgl
Ngl
Okay thanks I guess ill just get the magnetic jades
no it's not, you still benefit from the adjustable actuation point even with tactiles
Yes but the whole point of a tactile is they get actuated at the bump, so HE tactiles are redundant and also weird
it's not the point
Anyways what are tactile HEs even called
are most of the HE keyboards linear?
If you want more stability RAWs are better
They work on any switch
Wooting at least
They're also like 1/3 of the price I spent 90$ on jades and much less on raws
get raws
Granted I overpayed
the defaults on the wooting 60he+ is lekker L45?
L60
what is raws
Geon RAWS
Glory to geon and all that he touches
gotcha
If you have tried and like 45s I recommend 50 or 40g weight and if you like L60s (I always thought they were too heavy) then get 60g
60g da best
huh
+1
50s or 60s
IK apparently he was messing with me
Question for the Full Size users who switched to Gateron Magnetic Jade Switches: DId you only get the 90 pack and used the classic switches for the rest of the keyboard, or did you bite the bullet and bought 2 70 packs?
Buy geon raws instead
They are cheaper and better
I really want raws
But I'm waiting for something new because I just got dashes in like July...
They don´t come pre lubed right?`I am asking because I am lazy...never even considering going through that trouble XDD
They do
Oh nice!
Hand lubing will always be better than any factory lubing
But I've heard the raws are fairly good factory lubed
Another noob and probably niche question: I also use the analog feature for immersive games to get that dynamic movement speed in games like Cyberpunk, etc. That is why I stuck to the stock 60g switched of the Wooting Two HE, because I was afraid that with lesser force required I would kinda kill the effect and usability of the feature? Is this concern warranted?
I bet the 45g switched feel smoother, but if that meant that it is harder to use the analog feature I would not go with them.
Or in the case of GEONs 40g 😄
No, not really. It’s preference and it depends on your own ability to press with less or more force.
The best way is to try heavier springs/switches and see which you like best.
does the wooting strap still come with the keyboard?
You can order a low amount of many different springs that fit Lekkers from AliExpress if you want to try some out.
With the 60HE+, yes.
With the 60HE+ Module, no.
okie dokie thank you
i wonder how long it'll take gateron to ship the jade maxes
They said today right?
damn i need to decide on keycaps tooo T_T
Oil kings are awesome I went from those to lekkers to jades to raws
familar as in?
like are they good or a waste of money
Looks like a knockoff noctua keycaps, or weird Nintendo famicon sort of color
its soo hard to find decent keycaps (looks and price).
well ur a little too late
Depends on budget I guess
60 ish euro's dont want to spend another 100+ euro's just for keycaps
i do think just default keycaps if fine ngl
nice keycaps are always ex
but if you really want some
look out for doubleshot pbt
on aliexpress or amazon
@untold stirrup
mmm, still decided on mine. I have 1 choice for gmk and other choices that range between $75 to $120 not including shipping
I just want some more color thats all tbh, bc the default is nice
but black
pics? 👀
well do ty tho
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https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcx-dusk-keycap-set
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/traitors-zashiki-warashi-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set?_pos=774&_fid=ea4a2be7f&_ss=c
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what case tho
Not sure which is good. Also the links are for Asia
Just black
i have them i love it
mmm, soo hard to choose
I kinda just wanna not buy keycaps and just get topre keyboards
lemme add another option
gmk mictlan
I don't like the color

Noche base looks alright I guess
pp ofc
Im kinda tempted to go alu first cuz that red looks so good
Ill be back in an hour :)

Nylon
yes
Ordered 107 of them 😄 a little bit cheaper than 90 from Wooting including shipping on GEONWORKS 😄
Amazon keycaps usually suck in my opinion
They're cheap but the pbt quality is usually bad
hopes and dreams 
your user is purple therefor case can also be purple
ez
everyone riot
I am more of an orange guy. So maaaybee we can fix that 
brb buying more frost cases to attemt to die without melting
THAT WOULD BE OK AS WELL
a lot of churches popping up
wooting is a cult
with subcults
imagine...
That does look pretty
ok ~~cult ~~mission has been updated
pink for raq 
I posted it in our slack for you. You are welcome. 😛

Sharkosaur stonks going up
there are other pink enjoyers besides me

would buy every color
translucent red top and translucent black bottom, would buy every color as well.
Who designed the packaging for the 80HE? It looks really good.
got any links for better keycaps?
Hi ! On a wooting 60HE+, you keep the plate foam or you let nothing between the plate and pcb ? When you put a gummy o ring around your pcb
I have a tofu redux
You can go poron foam or no foam
If you use the silicone, you gonna have to do a bit of cutting on the silicone
Sure try KDBFans PBTfans
Ok I see, thx. Since earlier, I try to put the pcb in the case without seeing the gummy o ring (And also, try to don't break it too 😂 )
That's a huge link lol
bro pls fix link
Just checked it works
that just goes to kbdfans homepage
That may be the longest link I have ever seen
thank you!
I had to delete it lol
That's what they look like irl
I was honestly impressed at the length of that link
Idrc I put in the updated link anyways lol
I had no idea it would be that long
I’m not sure I could make a longer link if I tried
Pro-tip, when pasting links, you can delete everything after the ? as it's just tracking data
And the real link is so short
Yeah I was gonna do that but I was lazy
I appreciate your honesty lok
On a different note how many days does it usually take to get a reply from Raquel about the woothelp role
It's been about 2.5
If I recall the process, you apply, she then submits all the applications for review, that takes a few days, list gets narrowed down, people then vote and those who make it get approved
With everyone traveling and it being the busiest week of the year quite literally, might be longer than usual
I can offer woothelp recommendation letters from multiple churches for a fee. They may aid in your acquisition of votes
Raw he, raw zinc, white zinc, Igor. My churches are many and highly regarded
I laughed at "highly regarded"
Yeah I get that lol
Churches 🤣
anyone have a KBDfans discount code 😛
Nah sry
Wasnt there a discount code for the Geon Raws, or is that period over?
It's over
rip
Had hoped to get my hands on the 80HE before deciding on if RAWs are "needed"
Can always hope for some Black friday shenanigans i guess.
Tofu special edition is cool lo
I mean, if you're okay with lekker v2, you can stick with it
Yeah, i just hope the stemwobble is substantially better than the V1's
Heard the RAWs are better than the V2's
I have v1’s and the raws are night and day
Do you guys use SOCD on WASD or just A and D
Alu Plate No Foams is the way
A and D
Me 2
I guess counter strafing back and forth would be situationally useful
I don’t use it at all
no good for CS2
Gets you kicked
Not a CS2 fan tho
Btw that's complete bs why should you get banned for having a keyboard that makes counter strafing simpler
Big L for CS
Did just enter a raffle for cosmos collab artisan tho
Pretty excited
Cuz cs2 just better
Which one?? I missed that last one
Those predator and xenomorph ones are so sick
Yeah but still it just simplifies counter strafe why ban it
thats exactly why, lowers skill ceiling
Idk just seemed like a bad idea to ban one of the main things that makes HE good
That's not it it's just you don't have to take your finger off d before you put it on A
its a distinct hardware advantage and i think it makes total sense for valve to ban it, someone on a HE keyboard using SOCD is just going to have a natural advantage over someone without
I said one of the
Rapid trig is also a distinct advantage are they gonna ban that?
If we just keep banning features that make you better how is the gaming industry gonna progress?
rapid trigger is an advantage but its more like reading your inputs more accurately, this is straight up undoing your inputs that are mistakes. its cleaning up user error wheras rapid trigger is making the user intention more accurate to the input
It doesn't automate strafe its just a safety to make sure your always moving and don't stop in the middle
Idk maybe it's just agree to disagree
it does automate counter strafing, thats like the exact use that valve has banned it for
you can hold one key and spam the other and get perfect counter strafes
if that isnt automating idk what is
good, this is the wrong place for this discussion anyway
Wait really
I gotta try that
How did I miss this
That's actually cool tho
I do get why they banned it in mass tho
I still think it's fair game in tournaments
Because everyone has an HE board
Shows what a sellout hipyo is
Yeah
I used to think he was OK but his arguments against HE are ridiculous
Have you seen his vid review of 80He
It's the dumbest thing ever
He called people that prefer HE to MX psychos
Yeah I mean for a board with such great performance the sound is very acceptable
And plus you can always mod it to make it better
just wanna point out again this discussion should probably be #🌟│wooting80he or #💬│general
Yeah he was reviewing it stock
This channel is for basically anything dw
its for... keyboard modding
We be talking about anything really lol..
At some point we talk about nails 💅
Ima need some too cause I just joined that raffle for the flail keycap combo
Hipyo when he puts ragebait reviews
nah hipyo isnt hurting for cash he'll just make another sponsored video lol
Last time we measured thocksons hand size to find out what mouse he should get
🤣
Lol what a sellout
I know some but amazon keycaps suck
like i do believe him when he says that the sponsorship doesnt affect his review, but at the same time like 90% of his videos are sponsored by the company whose board hes reviewing which just seems kinda, idk, off
I’m dying at this analogy 🤣
It's a good one 🤣
I mean i don’t like how the lekker switches sound either, but i feel like his 80HE review should’ve been saved for the GMMK Pro 3
given that the GEON Raw has less travel time being fully pressed, do I need to account for that in wootility for RT? e.g. say that I set the windowskey to only activate at 4.0mm, would it not be activated at all with the geon raw?
I’ve never heard a worse keyboard than the new GMMK
I still highly recommend you get something like artifact shield on drop its a lot better for a good bit less
thanks!
he did mention the gmmk3 in the comments on that video, it was so bad he might not even look at it (which i think is really annoying as a reviewer you should look at all the options on the market if your goal is to provide a resource and advice for your viewers)
He said 60$ for one single keycap that was designed to stab your finger "wasn't too bad"
Alright but I will warn you amazon keycaps suck 9 times out of ten
i mean hes not totally wrong, for artisan metal keycaps they can get really expensive really fast, but yeah he has a habit of hyping up his sponsors a little too much
That’s wild
That’s a red flag
That's a ton for an artisan it wasn't even that cool and on top of all that it stabbed you in the finger 🤣
It's on Amazon Canada too
That's it
But just a warning the PBT quality almost definitely sucks and the legends are horendous
Are you buying then for a wooting
Why don't you just get this
Comes with or without Kana
Dude yours are worse it's just plain WOB
What color do you want
For me it's 39
Do you mean 40 CAD
Your hopeless lol your never gonna find good keycaps with that budget
My advice wait it out
When you have more cash get something quality
You won't even get decent WOB keycaps for that price
Oh actually
just got wooting pcb installed into my tofu60 redux. this feels really nice. all i need to do now is wait for my switch lube to come, and then swap the jade springs for lekker 60 springs and ill be at endgame (hopefully)
The ones from drop are on sale for 19$ USD
Maybe but it's 19$ chill lol
Not super cheap but PBTfans are really high quality it's what I use
That's it
those are nice
The pbt quality is probably pretty bad at that price
It's gonna feel cheap
I wouldn't recommend to anyone but his budget is super strict
what do u reccomend for a budget of 65ish bucks
That's almost enough for PBTFANS lol 🤣
Ig I can see about something a bit cheaper
anything minimalist im open to options
i was thinking about looking for wob keycaps with red japanese or cyrillic secondary legends to match my black tofu60 and red mousepad lol
Well pbtfans wob and Bow are both great if you want something different than BOG
MY MAN
That's my build that work for you
🤣🤣 great minds think alike
oh it actually looks so nice with the red underglow\
i was just gonna run it without rgb at all lmao
Yeah Crosshair is gonna sell out soon so I would get it while it's here
It will beat your budget a bit but it's soooo worth it
And the guys from pbtfans are great they basically give you lifetime warranty I damaged my O key and they sent me a new one for free
Just had to pay for shipping
so nice. im debating it rn
Imo just do it you won't regret it
It's not an impulse buy your paying a premium for a very high quality product
this is gonna be my build lol, tofu60 swap, pbtfan crosshairs, geon raws, tx ap stabs, burger and tape mod
That's exactly what I did
To the T
My good sir why are we giving the worst reccs on the planet

Except i used a PC plate
Ik it sucks
This dude wants amazon and only amazon
He wants it under 25$
aifei
aifei
Idek what to say to that
hmm
i have the burger and tape mod. but jades and stock stabsd
I dont think he expects the greatest quality for that budget and restricted buying options. Which is fine. Not everyone has the budget or desire to spend large money on a desk rectangle
Amazon only not ali tho
true
but aifei tho
Yeah a few months ago that's what I had
id have everything except the keycaps by this saturday
keycaps coming next week
What set you seem like a katakana guy
Everything in the sub $25 range are going to be pretty close. Most are made in the same 3 factories.
yeah but out of them
aifei is the goat
theres a reason i say aifei and not sumsgn or mintcaps
im debating putting the time in for switch tape mod and holee mod as well. i have the bandaids and medical tape just waiting for me to do it.
Nope
just the base PBTfans Crosshair
You got great taste
What problem are you trying to solve with the mod?
i bought it from ali cause shipping was cheaper there then on pbtfans
stem wobble. harsh top out noise
Holee mod almost always messes up wooting stabs
yeah id have to get the tx ap 1.6
I would just get new stabs honestly
I've heard black knights are better
can u provide me a link to them perchance
They're also a stab
Sure
thank u
Only 15$ W
swagkeys knights and moyu studio black knights are two different things entirely
best first mods?
lmao
my 60he comes comes tmmr what should i get first for mods
Knight stabs in black color =black knights lol
whatever
Tape mod
Maybe Burger mount
sounds like a cop out
SW Knight PCB-mounted Screw-in Stabilizers - This is a screw-in stabilizer using a new silicon double shot mold. - Both the stem and housing are injection-treated. This process effectively reduces rattling sounds that are made when:1. the stem makes contact with the housing2. the wires makes contact with the stem - Thi
its not like the knight colorway matters for performance
That's it
why not just say knight rather than black knight
Idk everyone called them black knights so I did too
so tape mod and burger mount as first mods?
Yeah not a bad selection
If your budget is bigger maybe switch swap
yes easiest to start with. though id reccomend getting slightly longer screws
white knight = mj
don’t care about budget
any recommendations?
do i want the standards or long pole?
Iron Man if it was made in 2024:
stock switches aren’t good?
what switch
i have the first iteration of magnetic jades
not really
long pole
T5 screws are good
i stuck with the m2 screw type but got a kit from 4mm to 10mm in length on the way
ty
are they called t5 screws or did i lose my train of thought
hi yall
correct
wsp
what’s the reason for screw swapping
what keyboard should i buy for FT?
helps with burger mount
wooting is good
burger mount
stock screws are too short for burger mount + anything more than 1 layer of tape mod
oh so if i’m doing the burger mount mod i need longer screws?
only if you want more than 1 layer of tape on the pcb
if your doing tape mod and burger mount then yea
i might as well. what length screws?
theyre like 5$
any others?
t5
any keyboard works but wootings the best
arent the stock screws 4mm? i bought a kit ranging from m2x4mm to m2x10mm. i think ideally 6 or 8mm length will be ideal but im still waiting for it to arrive
what switches do people run?
lots rn best is RAW he
imo ofc
but many love it
opinions on the tofu60 redux case?
one of the most commonly used aftermarket cases
i got m2x6mm screws on amazon
OH OPINIONS
i read that as options
anyway yeah its an awesome case imo the best
its what i use
I have tried quite a few only ever used ABS and Tofu
what length size t5?
2x5mm i think
hard question to ask but do you know how many i’ll need?
6
7 if your using middle but i dont reccomend it
damn hella information from everyone. i appreciate you guys 🤭
well thats what this channels for, welcome to the club
that works? or is it 2x5mm
whats ur budget btw
its a little better to have extra length (thats what she said) but its so i dont compress the o rings as much
for modding entirely?
no limiting budget tbh. first keyboard that i want to build properly
that’s the first case i saw that was compatible 😢
i like the holy60 but im not sure if youre into things with a lot of holes
if u look into it
and its quite a bit more then the tofu
like frog/salvation id take over a tofu
especially given the no budget thing
no hate on tofu
tofu is just the default
461e case also looks interesting softness wise
pretty much lol
salvation is nice
is dat a question
no i looked it up
ahh ok
worth the price?
what price are u looking at it for
should i return the tofu and get a holy 60 😭
has anyone tried it yet
what does imo mean in this case
i saw for $285
badseed tech has a review of salvation
i dont own it but i have tried it
honestly the sound and feel is inferior to the tofu in my opinion
its not as good with HE i think
do you not like softness
or like good bounce
so far mod list is salvation mx case, raw he switches, screws, burger mount, & tape mod
solid?
no i like a good burger mount but i personally think it just felt mushy and cheap
how does the holy60 sound compared to the tofu60? considering its a skeleton
hollow
again dont be a slave to peoples preferences, refer to the gh60 case list and find what you like honestly
i would watch badseed techs review of the salvation
we really dont know anything about what youd want
So we cant tell you what youre going to like
yk?
So like
Whats the ideal type feel for you
@mellow rock
yeah this stuff is super preferance based
i’m coming from a ducky one two mini stock so literally anything is better than that
in a fan of the thocky sound. maybe creamy? i literally have 0 clue what im talking about
but i want it to feel solid
then dont get salvation
its a very bouncy case
not solid at all
tofu is much better for stiff and solid
i’ll have to watch a review then cause maybe i don’t want stiff/solid
besides the case and switches, the other mods are kind of universally recommended?
That's basically bounce
If you don't like that tofu is a better pick
is it just me or is wooting rgb very blue
Yes
Ig just tape mod and burger mount

what does thocky and creamy mean
im not sure how to get close white, ive tried lowering blue values and it always gets somewhere weird
Dude
its means buttery and transparent
genuine ask
does it also mean pillowy and chunky?
or maybe frothy and marbly
no thats the opposite
ahhh ic
You've been acting like an expert and you don't even know what thock is 🤣
i know its not possible to get true white if there inst a white led
It's like a deep sound
...

It's a little more complex than that but that's the basics of it
oh hell nah i don’t like that
Yea tofu for you
the problem with thock and creamy IS THAT THEY DONT EXIST. Theres no ubiquitous qualifier for what thock and cream are because anyone who brings it up is obviously referring to a youtube video and people WILL ALWAYS HAVE A DIFFERENT MEANING FOR IT
Theres no subtstance to the word
respectfully
zilch
none
It's literally just a lower than average pitch
Than someone else thinks a thock is a high pitch?
Not a single set of two souls will have the same exact understanding of thock and therefore devalues whatever that word means
and even then
It is impossible to recreate “thock” in someones ears
because the reference isnt there
you need
The same exact build
The same exact mic
The same exact desk
The same exact room
And the same exact recording
why is it so confusing 😫
i agree with thockcousin
people follow these buzz words and chase are in for a hard ride
is it the lekker stem causing the blue hue?
We need to start doing audiophile level measurement graphs
HAHA
The amount of people being told “this thocky” and then ending up building a board to only then realize “why doesnt this sound thocky like the youtube video i saw that said thocky”
Is way too damn high
All I know is if you want a pure white you have to add other colors
So please stop pretending thock has value
how would someone describe the sound of stock wooting switches
Not great feeling or sounding imo
Chattery
the color on the shine-through are what i set it as (slight pink hue on what would otherwise be white) and the backlight is pretty blue
lol
i just want a thicc solid creamy typing experience
anyways color theory isnt my thing, ill just sitck to some obvious deep color
what mods would u recommend a beginner? tape and just change switches
juicy voluptuous
"thocky" doesnt really exist in the HE market yet, its more clacky
Yeah maybe burger
Clack 
ahh gotcha
Try fdffe8
Ks20u is kinda thocky
blue hue is definately because of the lekker stems
Yeah would have been my guess
led looks pretty white with the keycaps off
Try the hue I gave you any better?
Yea
Type shit
Lol there will always be an outlier but the general consensus is that thock is deeper than average
forgot to ask but what is this
its when you add bandaids to your stabilizers
I think most know that "thock" means lower frequency and "clack" is higher, but when people start adding stuff like buttery, creamy, silky, tangy, etc. It get's to be a bit much
should i follow this?
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holee mod messes up any stab
no
archaic mod that is cope against bad rattle stabs and peoples apprehension against lubing and wire balacing
not really cheap ones
a tape or bandaid will just end up coming off or absorbing all that nasty lube u jam in and sooner or later leave a gross and mushy stab feel
please
just fix or get new wires
permanent solution then and there
just lube is fine then? (already have tx ap long poles coming in)
And/or grease and/or wire balancing
always depends what stabs end up arriving on ur doorstep
What are the best "creamy" HE switches?
Some people are like REALLY attached to “thock” and it’s definition tho
Aktually thock originated as a term used to describe the sound of topre boards 
Dont tell them that theyll hate you
Back when the word was actually an onomatopoeia
And not whatever voodoo it is now
Hype buzzwords popularized by one skinny kid on Youtube
With misaligned teeth
IMO thock is deeper frequency and more muted / thump on bottom out and top out. Clack is emphasizing collisions with the top and bottom, more plastic on plastic high pitched sound
Ergo why theyre problematic
It no longer means one thing
theyre up to peoples opinion
“Muffled” “muddled” “quiet” “foamy” “less resonant”
These can be thock
But they arent to everyone
Therefore, why not just actually put into words what sound you want
like is it hard?
Its a spectrum, same with audio gear, its a general term like dark, bright, shouty, boxy
I just find the whole thing funny tbh - it ain't that deep I prefer a higher pitched keyboard but I can enjoy a deeper sounding one as well
But thocky can literally go inverse directions
Some thing loud and resonant but deep can still be thock
hey guys, ive had a wooting for a while now and im only now thinking of customising it, am i limited to the switches on the website?
Something quiet and muffled but high pitched can still be thock
When the spectrum is so fucked just abandon it
No
Put it into words
Please
ask people what they mean by thock
then theyll say what it is
do yk where i could browse for the magnetic switches used for the rapid trigger and all of that? :)
rather than prescribe whatever ur own interpretation of thock is to them
@stone flax
cause 100% it means a different thing
i disagree in general, but in instances where it is used that way its just people putting out click bait YT shorts which are just a ad lol
oh okay thank you!
my exact point
newcomer can most often go into this hobby and ask for a sound profile theyve only ever seen from highly edited and unrealistic sound tests
it doesnt invalidate its usefulness as a therm tho
so whats the point of further misconstruing their expectations for sound?
Thats like going into an audio editing software, dropping the decibels of a sound recording down all the way, posting a youtube video of that, and then suddenly “check out this incredibly quiet keyboard”
This has happened
Multiple times
its a slippery slope
sorry but what am i meant to be looking at haha
the audio gear realm has figured it out, just take things with a grain of salt and form your own opinions based on the info available. its not hard
Far right column
woah okay thats alot
oh god the thock conversation is still going on
“Compatible with Wooting”
hm?
😵💫☠️😵💫
browse for switches there
they all work?
keyboard realm has not, rules dont apply, sound tests are a lie, whats thock to you is not thock to me or whatever next guys asks for a thocky build recommendation, simply ask them to elaborate what they mean by thocky
This is not a hard concept
the ones that dont are specified
mainly magnet strength issues or magnet orientation
okay sorry im so new to this lmao
i just wanna change the stock ones bc they sound kinda oof into some creamy ones
what is creamy
do you mean the sound of pe foam
idk why this has you so heated? other people are intitled to their opinions.
i dont quite know how to explain it
wait ill find a video
Opinions making their way into advice asserted as objective fact
lol
Its the internet what do you expect?
pls do 
true
@stone flax what does your wooting sound like?
dms
nonono send it here I want to hear it too 🥺
^^^ i’m curious as well
are links allowed i dont wanna step on no ones toes haha
yeah links are allowed
okay here
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would you personally say that’s thocky? or is it too soft to be claimed as “thocky?”
In real life its more resonant and deep
yet another reason sound tests are a llllll iiii eeeee
sir u need a keebmat
i havent the slightest clue what that means haha
it’s definitely higher pitch than i personally like but it sounds super solid
ill get one this week lol just need to settle on a size
I own a tkl 65 and 60
With diff heights too

what mods are done to yours @stone flax
yeahh people have different meanings of creamy and thocc
cause that's thock to me 😭
actually wait
like a mix ig
icl the only reason i want to get into modding my keyboard is bc i feel like the wooting stock sounds kinda ew yk + glarses is a cool youtuber
To me those sound creamy. The sound profile I describe as creamy is slow, rounded, not sharp body collisions / bottom outs, generally kinda muted but still on the brighter side of the spectrum.
It’s more like creamy clock
perfectly said 😭

deep cream
yeh thats what i say as well, creamy
is there any switches for the wooting that sound so perfect haha
thock is more deep tone compared to creamy imo
Geonworks frog mini case, stock raw he 60g, gmk abs, all 80a stock tadpoles, forcebreak on screw and pcb-bottomcase contact points, swagkeys knight v2 stabs, silicone sandwich, no poron, pp plate
do yk what ones? :)
50g sells out the most
would rather give a build list
hm what does that mean? 50g?
spring force
how much force you need to put on your switch to press it
im like really knew to this so i have no idea what the lingo means
cant that be changed via the wootility app tho?
wait no im thinking of actuation
raw he sound more sharp than creamy imo
whoopsie
force can’t be change, actuation point can be
im sure it sounds creamy with the right configurations
This is the physical force, like how heavy a weight set onto the key would need to be to fully depress the key
also any 60% case can be used for the wooting correct?
no
as long as it has left usb cutout and the right layout
ahhh okay. what does the wooting come as stock?





