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[stone flax]

intended for using 1.6mm stabs on a 1.2mm pcb

basically those shims are 0.4mm and tack on the back to bridge the would be gap

you dont need it because ur pcb is standard thickness

[copper glade]

Also one mot problem

More

One of my stabs is causing my key to be angled

Don’t think it’s the wire as I tried other ones

I’m not sure what’s wrong

[paper bloom]

Did you place it correctly? b4 you screw it in?

[copper glade]

Yup

[paper bloom]

Then it cld be the way you inserted the rod then

If not remove your keycap and see if its placed right then it shldnt rlly be an issue

[copper glade]

Yeah alright

[paper bloom]

Cuz if this is the case its either the keycap or the rod or theres some sort of clearence issues from happening

[stone flax]

u either didnt install the stab properly or put the wire into the insert wrong

https://youtu.be/6Yz-UzTY8_I?feature=shared

[neat thorn]

@glacial wind GEON Raw HE Switch are perfect, thanks for you recommendations!

[glacial wind]

another satisfied member of our congregation

[neat thorn]

[zenith talon]

is there a list of all compatible keyboard cases for the wooting 60 he pcb?

[pine shoal]

im happy with the geon raw in my UwU so i ordered more for my 80he when it comes in

[robust siren]

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[copper glade]

fixed it, one of the stabs was broken on one side so i just flipped it around with the other one

not happy about that but whatever

works fine now

key board has zero rattle now

honestly knight v2 stabs are such a W

[stone flax]

🙏

urs sound a little bit off but give it some time to properly displace the lube and grease and should iron out

[copper glade]

ill show u a video of them rn

alot of background noise but in person they sound great

honestly dont think i can get much better unless i swap out some insane switches

already using some aftermarketr switches

[stone flax]

which ones

[copper glade]

the gugu knight ones

black knights

[deft turtle]

This sounds more like a cult than congregation

[glacial wind]

thou shalt not speak poorly about our glorious chief geon

[copper glade]

i think if im going to upgradae something next it would be the keycaps and case tbh

but i dont mind stock

[stone flax]

id go case

[copper glade]

ye

expensive though

[stone flax]

idk if its the switch but is there ticking?

[copper glade]

cant hear it in person

have noticed some switches are ticking now

after use

think its a switch issue

these stabs are great

feel like clouds

[polar girder]

And all the blessings that he brings. Praise be!

[stone flax]

switches dont tick

[copper glade]

its more of a click

like hard to explain

ill try get a video

[stone flax]

yeah no ur all good

just using the wrong descriptor is all

[stone flax]

the only form is switch tick would be leaf ticking

[copper glade]

0 is what they used to sound like

[stone flax]

which is from having a leaf

[copper glade]

cant really hear it in the video but they make high pitched noises some times and u can feel it

happened to my lekkers

i honestly think its just the lube running out or smth cause open housed

[stone flax]

[copper glade]

lmao

[stone flax]

@jade storm what are u streaming

[jade storm]

OW2

[stone flax]

play later ???

[jade storm]

sure

[dapper obsidian]

Stabs are okay, switches are a bit pingy. But Spacebar as others said is an abomination. Its THE Key to show quality of a Keycap set tbh.

But you may run into very different issues with your Durocks eventually

[glacial wind]

He has knight v2 stabs

[dapper obsidian]

Ah

ah man..Stabilizers are a damn curse...and god damn overpriced on top of that

its actually a shame that good ones are like 20+ moneys

[pulsar schooner]

Mmmmm

[dapper obsidian]

[stone flax]

false

[dapper obsidian]

which ones arent?

I remember fckn TX APs

(which are nice...have them in my Q1 Pro)

[stark osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lhp-satan-dance-cult-lucifer-gif-8498450605985791030

[shadow fern]

$20 for stabs isn’t expensive.

[wheat linden]

Do I need to re-calibrate my keyboard after changing switches? If so how would I do that?

[shadow fern]

🤔

[robust siren]

i believe its auto calibrated

[somber roost]

yep, wooting keyboards auto calibrate

just replug the keyboard after changing switches and you should be good

[robust siren]

wootility will still show 4mm bottom out but just use it as a 0-100% slider

[hollow radish]

i got the v2 switches 2 days ago and the color is less vibrant than gateron ones i got with the keeb wtff

[loud gull]

V2's aren't made by Gateron. So it is possible colours are a bit different.

[hollow radish]

💀

[snow flint]

so who makes the V2's ?

[little glen]

Calder makes them by hand

[molten prairie]

my list of longterm potential setup upgrades (red items not counted towards total cause theyre endgame) as well as my list of mods i plan to do to my 60he, anyone have any other suggestions for mods i should add to it?

[ionic breach]

yes

compare the ws dashes you have rn with the geon raw he

its cheaper and quite popular rn

[molten prairie]

bet ty! ill give them a listen later

[viral flicker]

how do you take out geon raw he switches? I for the life of me cannot remove the switch itself from the pcb

[rich phoenix]

Should be same way as the lekkers. It just might be super tight.

[devout torrent]

grain gold

[ionic breach]

also known as hejin

[viral flicker]

it didnt work, the switch clip actually broke. how would i take it out without damaging the pcb?

[teal geode]

🥶

[rich phoenix]

It won't damage the pcb. Just unscrew the switch plate from the pcb and the use a finger to push the switch through.

If your ok with a riskier solution you could aways try pulling it out with like pair of pliers

[pulsar schooner]

Knight x Raw official collab when? lol

[ionic breach]

another one bites the dust

[young lantern]

are yall using 205g0 for ur stabs wires as well or XHT BDZ

ive been using the latter but im curious on what the general consensus in the cord is

[marsh saffron]

I use 205 for housings and loctite dielectric grease for the wires

[young lantern]

i figured

thanks guys

yeaa im taking my current switches and o ring and moving to my other wooting so i wanted to see what other configurations people are using

im on tx ap clip in stabs but i think ill try out the knights v2 screw ins when i change my switches

[glacial wind]

It totally depends on the stab

Some brands make stabs that don’t do well with thicker lubes

[young lantern]

well for the knights v2 using 205g0 for housing and DBZ for wire should be ok still right?

[glacial wind]

They recommend just 205g0 on everything for knight stabs

[young lantern]

oh interesting

they as in swagkeys?

[glacial wind]

It’s not that you can’t use thicker lube but that you risk sluggish stabs because their tolerances are tight

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[young lantern]

oh i was not aware lmao

thanks jed

im guessing for the raws i think just spreading lube would be better than relubing no? and how about the springs

[glacial wind]

Yeah there’s honestly a good amount of lube already on the raws, so I just spread it out a little better then lubed the springs

[urban harbor]

i only use 205 on my stabs, never liked dielectric. my Knight stabs have been great with just 205

[untold wigeon]

I love the way this Pom plate sounds when gaming. No more clickity clackity.

[cedar gate]

Does pom go good with jades or RAWs

[elfin garnet]

You should know the answer to that. Cam is using RAWs on a POM plate

Unless you mean in Holy's type of case

[calm pulsar]

Frijoles is in fact using the raws

[cedar gate]

Beans?

Oh the guy with the mrbean pfp

[untold wigeon]

I have my Raws with it now. It’s great

[pulsar schooner]

@untold wigeon #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[calm pulsar]

yeah you just asked about whether pom is good with the raws/jades and yeah he's saying it is good with raws 😄

[untold wigeon]

They look nice

[calm pulsar]

oh the monochromes

nice

[pulsar schooner]

Took forever, relubed them and swapped in 80g springs

[cedar gate]

Has anyone tried 45 50 and 60 springs?

[calm pulsar]

80g spring chad here

[cedar gate]

What's the ideal weight to you I'm thinking about swapping my 50g for 45g

[pulsar schooner]

The sound recording has like none of the low end, does not do it justice at all

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[elfin garnet]

I was midgame when I wrote what I wrote lol. Thought you were The Thackson lol

nvm

[silver ingot]

mmm

just tried out my PP plate from hype

installation was good but I might actually just go back to using the stock alu plate from my geon frog

the sound isnt really what im looking for

sad

ill try to swap out my black knights for some jade knights and see how that fairs but ill likely just go back to alu plate

[elfin garnet]

What about it did you not like?

[random loom]

Anyone know some creamy Hall effect switches other than lubed gateron jades

[silver ingot]

the sound doesnt jive super well with the frog in my opinion. its got pretty good fidelity but the sound is a bit too plastic-y for my tastes

[calm pulsar]

what is creamy

[silver ingot]

its probably a pretty good choice if you like to foam up your boards

creamy is meaningless

[elfin garnet]

Which switches are you using?

[silver ingot]

black jades

sorry

i meant black knights

[elfin garnet]

I see. I'm using a pp plate in a frog as well but I'm using RAWs. I like it

[silver ingot]

Im gonna attempt to swap em out for the jade knight frankenswitch

naise

I already have jades in hand and I like long pole bottom out

[calm pulsar]

keep in mind it might be overly tight with the combination of krytox and oil lube

[silver ingot]

it might change the sound significantly cus black knights are weaksauce bottom out

[calm pulsar]

I cleaned them when I was building the jade knights

and then relubed myself

[silver ingot]

which spring did u keep

[calm pulsar]

I used a separate 70g spring

from aliexpress

[silver ingot]

heavy hands i see

[calm pulsar]

tbh it’s not that heavy, and my hands are small too lol

I just like a bit more control for movement

cause I feel 45g bottoms out too fast

[silver ingot]

thats fair

[calm pulsar]

but that’s a personal thing ofc

[silver ingot]

adjustable actuation is a beautiful thing

[barren wasp]

Lube coming in today time and I’m feeling romantically with my keyboard

[stark osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eunchae-scold-gif-27697358

[teal geode]

What plate comes on the wooting 60he

[uneven cradle]

Steel plate with the prebuilt and PC plate with the module

[teal geode]

Ok

Ty

[barren wasp]

Does anyone know if lubed v1.5 sound like v2?

[tropic urchin]

Apparently the Jade Maxes are on the quieter side and sound very different from the stock/Pros

Maybe it’s time to join the RAW cult

[calm pulsar]

they probably sound the same
just v2s are a tiny bit less rattly

https://youtu.be/DBkuk0xjEcs

thanks gateron for nails sound test...

[calm pulsar]

do you have the jade maxes?

im curious what changes about the sound with the different material they're made of

[random loom]

Does anyone know if Akko sells magnetic switches other than that Hall effect keyboard

[tropic urchin]

No, there was someone on the Wooting subreddit that got them, and confirmed that they had a different sound/were quieter than the pros

I was strongly debating getting the Maxes, but I liked the sound of the stock Jades/pros, so that alongside the increased cost I’m kinda off the bandwagon now for those

[calm pulsar]

well jade pros are at least the same price lol as previous jades
it's good that they improved the spring and tolerances

but I will be checking out the raws first

[tropic urchin]

There’s an official Max sound test from Gateron coming next week

[tropic urchin]

I’m thinking of getting the Pros and cancelling my Jade order from Wooting, hopefully it doesn’t fuck up the delivery date 🥲

[stone flax]

lmao

just get raws

[high nymph]

or lekker v2's honestly they dont sound bad

[tropic urchin]

I like the Jade sound profile more, there’s something about the Raws that prevents me from jumping aboard

[calm pulsar]

my raws are in my city's sorting center now

[stone flax]

?

lol

“I dont like the cleaner sound profile and having less wobble”

is what im readin

[calm pulsar]

I like jades in comparison with lekkers, but im kind of tired of the louder bottom out that they have

hopefully raws have a softer bottom out

[polar girder]

https://divinikey.com/products/designer-studio-ds-adaptive-stabilizers

Designer Studio Adaptive Stabilizers are PCB mounted stabilizers with an elastic, high polymer material inside the stem. This allows for the mechanism to apply a constant force against the wire during usage as to reduce the amount of free movement inside the stabilizers.

[calm pulsar]

yo wtf blue cosmic stabs

[calm pulsar]

designed by designer studio

no shit xd

[polar girder]

Lolz

[calm pulsar]

I've seen this in multiple stabs at this point

durock v3s, staebies I think too

[polar girder]

Yeah seems popular

[marsh saffron]

For cheaper

[calm pulsar]

I prepared some cherry clip-ins with TX AP long pole stems lol

they seem to be tighter in there too, maybe less rattle than usual

[stone flax]

lmfao

if u didnt block me youd have seen me sent u this days ago

😂

[calm pulsar]

lol yeah I remember you talking abt the adaptive stabs

@polar girder it's unknown if they are compatible with wooting plates tho

[stone flax]

Zzzzzzzzz

[stone flax]

their molds are the same as jwk

AKA

[marsh saffron]

I wish someone would release good plate mount stabs with something fancy like that

[stone flax]

Same as durocks

Lmao

[stone flax]

??

[calm pulsar]

durock v3s? I think

the plate mounted ones

I could be mistaken

[marsh saffron]

Any plate mounts that have the built in silicone in the stem?

[stone flax]

lol

[marsh saffron]

Seen a few like that that looked intriguing

[stone flax]

Idk why people were shitting on me for bringing up designer studio

but LOL

literally the same molds from jwk and dampening liner

for 1 dollar

instead of 5

or 9 dollars instead of 13

🤦

[calm pulsar]

lol nice, is the first pic from aliexpress?

[marsh saffron]

So the 2 you sent are literally what I'm looking for ???

How have I been this oblivious

[stone flax]

yeah

lots of people have made adaptive platemounts lol

durock just made the most expensive one

and people glaze it for whatever reason?

they literally just copied last

[calm pulsar]

cause known name 😦

[stone flax]

sad but true

LOL

[marsh saffron]

And they will fit just fine with wootings PC plate or might I have to shim/file something

[calm pulsar]

though actually i've seen more shitting on durocks when I researched about stabs lol

but they're still very popular

[marsh saffron]

Read about people having tolerance issues but don't know what plate/stabs they had it with

[polar girder]

Yeah. Can’t rely be fucking around

But they look interesting

[stone flax]

which is why its insane to me people are now saying durock v3’s are amazing. V2’s were so shit with rattle they neccesitated holee mod because of how bad their rattle was and now just because they hop on the adaptive train people love them again ⁉️

[calm pulsar]

damn it seems my raws and frog arrive at the same day, hopefully tomorrow I have everything on hand

[stone flax]

unblock me dummy

theyre literally from the same molds as jwk

or not

saying designer studios might not be compatible is saying durock v3 might not be compatible

[calm pulsar]

so are they?

cause I heard durock v3s are 6.75mm width

which is too wide for wooting plates usually

[stone flax]

i mean it depends on the plate

seen a guy here somewhere say their hypekeyboards didnt do all too well

[marsh saffron]

Do you know if they fit fine with wootings PC plate?

[calm pulsar]

yeah I mean at this point I'm fine with sanding the stabs or the plate cause if 0.5mm of material is what keeps me from using good stabs then fuck it lol

[stone flax]

Here

he didnt find success with aftermarket pom plate

but it worked on the wooting steel one

[calm pulsar]

damn so its random af

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I'll sand my PC plate a bit to fit them if I have to

[stone flax]

i love pcb mount

😔 for the non + owners

[calm pulsar]

I hope the cafege alu plate is wide enough to support all stabs cause can't really cut alu with an exacto knife lol

[marsh saffron]

Don't wanna spend another 300 cad for PCB mount though

[stone flax]

venom60

[calm pulsar]

venom60 with the split backspace is so tempting

[calm pulsar]

yeah it's nice and Sleepyhead told me too
but waiting for AU > US > RU shipping is crazy😭

[stone flax]

i wish cafege did discounts for frog tadpole

[calm pulsar]

didnt you have 50a ones?

do you want the ones that are harder?

[stone flax]

i have 80a stock

[calm pulsar]

ah

[stone flax]

i want 50a’s

[calm pulsar]

its Zmira who had 50as

[stone flax]

but man no US vendor

[elfin garnet]

I got all of them

[calm pulsar]

I got 60a but I should've ordered 50as too

[elfin garnet]

[calm pulsar]

lol nice

[stone flax]

50 or 60

[stone flax]

@elfin garnet whats ur favorite

[polar girder]

Right on. Yeah cool. Mine are for screw ins

Once it shows up I might actually just compare all three plates

And it looks like if I can find them, I’ll probably have to order black SW knight stabs from SW direct and pay out the ass for shipping

[calm pulsar]

mjj is probably crying reading this

🤣

[polar girder]

Then he cares too much what other people do with their own money

[elfin garnet]

Haven’t tried them all. Only 80 and 50. I like 50 way more

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/smadging-pepe-smadging-gif-26061387

[polar girder]

It’s 2024. I should be able to have black stabs and if I want them lol

[harsh dove]

I've tried all the tadpoles, I prefer 60 or 70, somewhere in the middle, don't like too soft.

[polar girder]

lol yeah dude exactly same. I went from 80a to 50 and just said nvm fk the rest lol

[calm pulsar]

btw I noticed that the adaptive ones seem to be black and even the wires are black which is rare

I might look into them at some point

[untold wigeon]

I just need some black knights and it’ll look sweet

[stray tiger]

Ive got all of the tadpoles except 60 and just ordered some yesterday

[harsh dove]

I run 60s

[stray tiger]

copy cat!

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-photocopier-xerox-kitty-kitten-gif-21569967

[stone flax]

😭

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/chocolate-starfish-butthole-booty-eat-ass-ass-gif-19435833

[calm pulsar]

I want the black 50a stabs

[stone flax]

when will bigsly unblock me LOL

[calm pulsar]

but these are plate mount

I got the module

but I get what you mean

[uneven cradle]

I run whatever came with the frog mini kit

[stone flax]

u want black wire

black housings?

[calm pulsar]

nah I don't care for that that much lol

[stone flax]

uhh what do u want then

just black housings?

[calm pulsar]

I mean I cared for the switch to be black but now I'll have raws so rip I guess

[untold wigeon]

Just color it in with a sharpie or black marker. Why buy more

[floral robin]

thoughts on using kapton tape for tape mod?

[calm pulsar]

I got a ton of black stabs at this point

[calm pulsar]

true but raws will probably need something stronger than that 😄

[floral robin]

i work with semiconductors and have a bunch of kapton tape at work

[polar girder]

Huh?

[calm pulsar]

I meant it as a joke and also made a typo, I meant tadpoles

[untold wigeon]

Spray paint. 😂

[polar girder]

lol word

[calm pulsar]

as long as it is easy to remove its fine

make sure it doesnt tear off the pcb components

[harsh dove]

Kapton tape will leave a residue

It's a silicone adhesive

[untold wigeon]

This. Need super light adhesive

[calm pulsar]

ah then that's a no

[untold wigeon]

Permanent tape mod. Sounds fun.

[harsh dove]

I mean it comes off with some isopropyl alcohol but it's not ideal to get residue on the PCB

[untold wigeon]

But then you’ll be scrubbing off components. lol.

[harsh dove]

Yeah

which is where the danger lies

[rocky folio]

What stabs (3.5 mm) should i buy with the gateron jades ?

[harsh dove]

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[untold wigeon]

Stock are fine. No need to spend money

[stone flax]

long poles

but depends on keycaps

[polar girder]

Most often this

[stone flax]

long poles or stem spacers or better keycaps

[rocky folio]

Hmm ok

[stone flax]

pretty much

[rocky folio]

Yeah but, a specific brand ?

[stone flax]

Where are u buying jades from

They come with long pole housings

If from wooting

[untold wigeon]

I feel like if we just tell people about stock stabs are Gateron people will be more satisfied and less likely to want to change them. lol.

[rocky folio]

Right wooting sellss them now

I will see

[calm pulsar]

yeah lol that's why I've been telling ppl that they are based on gateron design

[calm pulsar]

you might wanna look into jade pros (same price) or geon raw he though, cause they are newer and better switches than normal jades

[rocky folio]

Yeah but the raw geon are also 3.5 which doesnt solve the issue

[stone flax]

there is no issue unless there is

[calm pulsar]

do you have this issue tho?

I have stock stabs with gmk keycaps and the issue is apparent only if I press on the ends of the keycaps with force

[rocky folio]

Havent received the switchee yet

[rocky folio]

Only WITH FORCE or do you notice it all the time ?

[stone flax]

no

[rocky folio]

Xd

[calm pulsar]

it's not noticeable in normal use lol

[stone flax]

seesawing because of reduced travel depends on the keycaps and the stabilizer

if theres a problem there is a problem

if there isnt there isnt

[rocky folio]

I dont have them YET so im worried to be issued when i get em

[stone flax]

????

what keycaps do you have

what stabilizers do you have

[silver ingot]

Do people actually get see-sawing from jades or is it just paranoia

[calm pulsar]

I don't understand how is it that so many people know about this "issue" lol

[stone flax]

i mean they can

[silver ingot]

I paired my jades with regular tx v4s and they were fine because my keycaps weren't warped

If you have cheap banana caps then sure

[stone flax]

enough people complained about it for wooting to start including long pole stab stems

[calm pulsar]

well that is true tho

why tf doesnt gateron include that lol

for so much per switch they should include that

[stone flax]

?

[silver ingot]

It's niche and usually a non issue

[calm pulsar]

the longer pole stems

[stone flax]

Why doesnt every long pole switch come with extra stab stems then?

that logic makes no sense

[calm pulsar]

housings?

[stone flax]

plastic bits

stem + housing

or stems

[calm pulsar]

the stem is the only part that is long pole

[stone flax]

But you get the point, buying long pole switches doesnt mean you should also get sent extra stab stems

like tf lol

[calm pulsar]

yeah but they are probably very cheap to include, if wooting does that and they don't even manufacture them

[stone flax]

wtv

tell that to gateron

And every long pole manufacturer

at that point full travel switches should also come with regular stems

like what

[calm pulsar]

are there issues with full traver + long pole stabs?

[stone flax]

ofc lol

[inner flicker]

I wonder how putting a layer of clear tape on raws would sound

[calm pulsar]

lmao didnt know that

[inner flicker]

[stone flax]

switch wont bottom out when the stabs literally prevent it from doing so

this is kinda common sense

if u imagine what a stab does

[calm pulsar]

yeah but I didnt think it was interfering that far to the point where it wouldnt let the switch bottom out

but it makes sense

[stone flax]

If switch bottoms out 4.0

And long poles let u dip down to 3.7

[calm pulsar]

well I was just yapping that it would've been nice for gateron to include long pole stems with short travel switches, but ppl also have different stabs so nvm lol

[stone flax]

That 0.3 of bottom out is stopped

[stone flax]

expecting too much

of gateron of all companies?

same guys who do $1 he switches

[calm pulsar]

rare earth permanent magnets though

[quiet bay]

3d printing these horns out would be sick

and then attaching it to ur keyboard with like double sided tape or smth

I need black horns

[stray tiger]

You just need adjustable travel switches

[spice plover]

no such thing as pillow switches?

[calm pulsar]

interesting, but might also need adjustable travel distances in HE software for that

[stray tiger]

You shouldn't. The continuous calibration will have the travel distance dialed in fairly quickly.

[noble juniper]

Hey so im new to the PC world and keyboard customization, just ordered my keyboard and gets here tomorrow. saw these keycaps on Amazon and love the look. Would like to know if they would work with the 60HE keyboard. preciate the advice!

[stone flax]

mx cross

[stone flax]

yes

but i dont reccomend it if u expect the legends to shine like that

[noble juniper]

sweet preciate it!

[stone flax]

+if ur set on this despite it being side lit keycaps on north facing led’s its gonna be a fraction of the cost on ali anyways lol

this is 100% definitely a markup

[noble juniper]

oof

[stone flax]

did u want the caps for the shining legends?

[noble juniper]

yeah id like them to be visible and bright for sure

[stone flax]

then dont go for those

side lit keycaps + north facing led’s will not create that desired effect

[noble juniper]

damnnn aight

[stone flax]

since the light will be coming from the top side and not the bottom

As seen here @noble juniper

[noble juniper]

ahh i see the problem

[stone flax]

since the led’s are northfacing the cutouts for the legends would not shine as bright

than if they had the light come from a south facing one

[noble juniper]

so should just try to find similar keys that arent south facing

?

[stone flax]

not really all that common for the legends of the keycap to be on the north wall

because well

Ur not looking at a keyboard from the back

most times its just the shinethrough legend on the top

https://preview.redd.it/south-facing-vs-north-facing-rgb-backlighting-v0-qawk0uv4f3ya1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d9705162a3110666c5ef27ebbd585c6a2ea84e5

See?

On the top

[noble juniper]

fair point lol preciate the help!

[noble juniper]

yeah that top looks dope

[stone flax]

yeah that necessitates south facing led’s

[noble juniper]

yeah those look freakin dope

[stray tiger]

Just turn your switches around /s

[stone flax]

too much people think this is what north/south facing switches mean

they think the lights coming from the switch

[stray tiger]

Yup, I can see why they think that though. The hobby can be confusing at first with all of the information to take in

[stone flax]

north facing can still achieve crazy results

just needs the right keycaps for them to really shine

[noble juniper]

damnnnnnn

[robust siren]

unfortunately those are sold out almost everywhere and places that still have stock charge 20-40 extra

[stone flax]

yeah thats how this hobby works

extras be costin more

[robust siren]

my wallet died this month

[stone flax]

[noble juniper]

yeah i just built my first pc a few weeks ago and have a super basic razer keyboard and mouse rn and the keyboard and mouse is my last thing to get to finish the build

[robust siren]

5 benjis disappeared into thin air

[stone flax]

🫡 hope u find everything u need

feel free to keep asking what u need here

[stray tiger]

Wait until you see all of the new RGB effects. Courtesy of @somber roost

[noble juniper]

preciate it would love to get some keycaps that make this new kb look something like that, my pc is super minimal rgb cause i wanted the keyboard and mouse to be more rgb than the rig itself

[noble juniper]

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/unicorn-vomit-puking-rainbows-gif-11266895

[sweet oak]

[noble juniper]

is that the gmmk keyboard?

[austere creek]

thats a wooting

80he

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/get-that-outta-here-dang-matt-smith-get-dat-outta-here-gif-14688473

[somber roost]

@marsh saffron fresh xray content for you

[noble juniper]

Thought that wasn’t out yet?

[austere creek]

woot staff has samples

we gotta test it somehow after all

[noble juniper]

Ahhh didn’t realize he was on staff that would make sense

[austere creek]

pretty sure we just shared some in the "backstage" of the discord

[sweet oak]

Xrays stay the shiniest of shiny rgb caps

[noble juniper]

I was gonna order that 80he but saw was on pre order till November and didn’t wanna wait any longer since I got this rig finished😂

[austere creek]

well depending on how reviews go it may be on pre order till next year sometime

but no one really knows

[stone flax]

i hate xrays

[noble juniper]

Also the sooner I buy all my upgrades before I get married the better so the gal doesn’t see how much I’m spending😬

[stone flax]

🦹

[stray tiger]

Its a self wedding gift

[noble juniper]

Well since I love the tkl I have now but the reviews on y’all’s 60% convinced me I’d say yall will be good 👌🏼

[noble juniper]

Good point

Problem is I told her that with the pc alone🤣

[stray tiger]

Its connected to your PC

[noble juniper]

Yeahhhh she won’t see it that way😂 got 30 days to get the keyboard and mouse. Haven’t decided on a mouse yet

[stone flax]

what mouse are you currently on, what hand size do you have, what grip do you have, what features do you want outside of that

[noble juniper]

I got a used wired basilisk v3 from a buddy. One of the side buttons is broke but it gets the job done for now. I really like having 3 buttons on the side, 2 minimum for sure. Apart from that good battery life, lightweight and comfy

Saw some good things about the viper v3 pro

[untold wigeon]

4 self wedding gifts

[fluid ravine]

Heyoo

Getting a haircut rn

[quiet bay]

dont get cooked

[noble juniper]

And as far as grip and hand size, got bigger hands for sure. Grip I’ve just been doing what’s comfortable so far so prolly palming it

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-blow-hair-hair-dryer-monkey-gif-14537854

[zenith talon]

which switch puller is the best to get the switches off the pcb?

[untold wigeon]

Get an ergo mouse. It’ll be the most familiar from a basilisk

[ember sparrow]

Just bought the 60HE+, anyone has some recommendations for modding?

[zenith talon]

dont buy a wirst rest

[ember sparrow]

Already bought it

Too late man

[zenith talon]

add tape mod

[ember sparrow]

Lemme write it down

[untold wigeon]

Tape mod is so early 2024 lol

[zenith talon]

atleast thats what I am doing

[stone flax]

i say get an ergo

ur on a basilisk rn

im gonna take ur word for it without measurement that ur hands in the bigger end

[untold wigeon]

Stop copying me.

[stone flax]

and ergos are more suited for palm

[zenith talon]

i also bought the geon raw he switches

[stone flax]

atleast medium sized ones

to large

[noble juniper]

Around like 17cm

[stone flax]

oh wow

thats actually not large

whats the width?

8-9?

[ember sparrow]

Whats the difference?

[zenith talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYACSlhQg9E

[untold wigeon]

Lamzu Thorn or Vaxee Outset are great options

[noble juniper]

12cm

@stone flax

[stone flax]

oh wow

18x12

ok

consider one of those medium ergos

like a thorn

xlite

dav3/hyperspeed to shift around sizes

[noble juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[stone flax]

do note ur losing that thumb support

[untold wigeon]

Dav3 is huge

[stone flax]

thats found in the basilisk

[ember sparrow]

Kinda wanna get a different backplate but not too sure what would be good to be fair

[stone flax]

hyperspeed runs small

therefore i listed both

to go up and down sizes

[noble juniper]

The thumb support isn’t a huge deal since I use the side buttons a loooot

[untold wigeon]

Oh hyperspeed ok. That’s different

[ember sparrow]

That sounds sexy ngl

[untold wigeon]

Vaxee Outset Ax is a fantastic shape and a great mouse. Check it out

[zenith talon]

hmm dont know

[stone flax]

@noble juniper although eloshapes really isnt an accurate representation outside of rough outlines this should help

[ember sparrow]

Its still delivering so well see when it arrives

Maby then ill have a different idea

[noble juniper]

That’s dope. Was looking at a glorious mouse but saw really good things about the viper v3 pro. Any other recs I’d love to look at

[zenith talon]

yeah just test it out

[stone flax]

biggest thing to know about the vv3 is that its an ambi mouse

[noble juniper]

Is this a website?

[stone flax]

while eveything we’ve recommended is an ergo

and the basilisk is one as well

[stone flax]

eloshapes

[noble juniper]

Ah gotcha

[noble juniper]

Bet bet

[ember sparrow]

will do dont worry, just curious when it will arrive

[stone flax]

anutha

[proper ice]

can you use the stabilizer grease (molykote EM-50L) on regular switch leafs? Im not sure if grease is bad for leafs or not

[noble juniper]

Sweet gonna google these in a bit

[stone flax]

are you talking about an mx switch?

[bold dragon]

anyone know difference between jade max and jade pro?

[proper ice]

uhh

[proper ice]

technically. yeah

[stone flax]

he switches dont have a leaf

was my point

[proper ice]

manufactured by HMX

yeah ik

[stone flax]

ahh ic

[proper ice]

im using the grease on a hmx snowcrash (traditional mx switch)

[stone flax]

dont use greases

[proper ice]

oh shit

[stone flax]

Wait what?

[proper ice]

on the leaf

[stone flax]

do u have a batch one snowcrash

?

[proper ice]

yes

i unlubed them all cuz of the overlube issue

[stone flax]

yikes….

okay basically

[proper ice]

then relubed with less lube, and grease on the leafs

[stone flax]

yeah

do you have leaf tick?

[proper ice]

but light coat

[stone flax]

avoid uses greases

[proper ice]

i cant notice any

how ocme

[stone flax]

way too thick

[proper ice]

it seems fairly comparable to the stock batch 1

[stone flax]

thats not a good thing….

[proper ice]

i did a (seamingly) thin coat

[stone flax]

ur lube job with grease shouldnt equate an unacceptable overlube issue from the manufacturer….

[stone flax]

Because its a grease….

[proper ice]

yeah

[stone flax]

thats still overlubed

[proper ice]

i know

it doesnt feel overlubed

[stone flax]

🤷

[proper ice]

im more concerned if like over time there will be issues

[stone flax]

better hope it doesnt displace

and feel terrible

lol

[ionic breach]

lube is subjective

[proper ice]

you think it will move around?

[ionic breach]

slightly ya

[proper ice]

oh shit

[stone flax]

not really, there are things such as lube issues

[ionic breach]

its fine dw

[stone flax]

???

[proper ice]

i mean, 205g0 felt too thin thats the problem

[stone flax]

Why we saying this

slip stick lube poolage, syringing, mushy bottom out

This is not “its fine dw”

if ur grease seperates

doesnt matter if its 2 days or 2 months

ur switches will feel bad

thats why less is more

[proper ice]

yeah, thats why i didnt do toooo mcuh

[stone flax]

lube is done to deal with issues and then only slightly fine tune switches

[proper ice]

but like idk if grease is more prone to displacing

[stone flax]

not lube everything and kill the switch’s performance

[stone flax]

depends on the lube

[ionic breach]

mb then

[stone flax]

still id never put greases in a switch

ever

[proper ice]

i have 205g0 and the wooting stabilizer greae

[ionic breach]

honestly never had an issue with it

[stone flax]

i mean

he works differently

literally just a spring and stem on the inside

not many points to worry about

[stone elbow]

Put some bicycle grease in it

[ionic breach]

oh mb

didnt read the whole convo lmao

[stone flax]

yeah hes talking about an mx switch

[ionic breach]

best to redo it

[proper ice]

i mean the problem is 205 doesnt feel as smooth on leaf as the grease does

[stone flax]

then go heavier on the leaf

[noble juniper]

I was planning on using some olive oil

Is that bad?

[proper ice]

but at that point just use a thinner coat of grease, no?

[stone flax]

im feeling kinda tired explaining this so just refer to this neat image

but tldr stop using grease

[proper ice]

oh shit alr

wait

[stone flax]

this can logically can be extrapolated down to use a very thin coat of grease on springs

it just doesnt work like that

different lubes for different use cases

[proper ice]

there is where im lubing

[stone flax]

????

Bro

[proper ice]

huh

thats the leaf, no?

[stone flax]

bro….

[proper ice]

guys i might be a idiot

[stone flax]

the stem legs dont even make contact there

ur lubing an area that doesnt make contact

[proper ice]

LF MFAO

wait

does it like

slide on that though

what

[stone flax]

no

thats why

[proper ice]

wait

huh

[stone flax]

dissasemble ur switch

take of top housing

Keep soring and stem in

Push stem down

[proper ice]

yeah

[stone flax]

look at where it makes contact

[proper ice]

the thingy makes contact with it

i think its called the stem legs

that make contact with it

[stone flax]

yeah

but it only contacts with some parts of the leaf

and not the part ur greasing up

[proper ice]

but isnt that were leaf ping comes from

🥲

[stone elbow]

Olive oil is going to smell rancid

[proper ice]

so the factory lube is only on like the legs of this part. and when i removed it, i re-greased the entire leaf part including the middle and legs, but not on the back part

im literalyly just going over the factory lube, im just not sure if grease will be really bad in the futuer or something thats what the concern was

im sure you know more than me, but the grease feels fine to use and i dont thinkkkkkkk it will move around, unless because its thicker, its more likely to catch onto the stem legs

[robust siren]

why are you using oil you can consume and will go bad to lube something thats going to just be sitting there for months

[noble juniper]

It was a joke

Cause someone was talking about grease then bicycle grease lol

[thin plover]

hey Question, what switches are better GEON RAPTORS / WS Dash / Geon RAW HE / or is there any better options?

[calm pulsar]

raws better than jades/dashes
raptor a whole another switch

[stone flax]

raws

[thin plover]

What exactly do you mean by completely different switches?

but 2 Points for raw

good

[calm pulsar]

raptors are open bottom switch

raws closed

[thin plover]

ah

[calm pulsar]

raws are hype cause they're probably the best closed bottom switch these days

closed bottom is closer to MX in feel

which is why ppl like it

[thin plover]

but raw dater from the geon raw he is it good?

[calm pulsar]

what

[stone flax]

?

[thin plover]

I think I know how finely they move or how finely they are absorbed by the strength you print xD

[stone flax]

????

Not another AI 🤖

[calm pulsar]

english is not my native language but damn

[thin plover]

forget it xD I'm a bit tired and don't know how to premolate it properly

[stone flax]

[thin plover]

wait what

[stone flax]

whats going on

[untold wigeon]

Fricken English class in here

[thin plover]

I hate translators

[untold wigeon]

lol

English only please

[calm pulsar]

damn I only got Cs for my german classes lmao

[thin plover]

sry

[hard flower]

Added poron foam to the 2HE. Highly reccomend to anyone considering

[untold wigeon]

I like the 2he but I don’t have enough real estate on my table top to use one

[hard flower]

I have a pretty deep desk. I swap between the 2HE and 60HE for work/gaming. Great boards

[elfin plover]

is there a sound test comparison somewhere for silicon vs poron sandwich pad for the wooting specifically?

[untold wigeon]

#1 silicone. #2 poron

@elfin plover

[glass gulch]

ΤΞCHΝΘSHΛΜΞN
Update just incase other people have this issue. They wont repair the usb c port. I did order a new pcp that has been in Compton CA forever. I got impatient and bought a reflow gun, was able to fix it today and new pcb ironically will be here tomorrow lol. but omg not having this keyboard was rough.

[quiet bay]

lmao what's going to happen to the new pcb now?

[glass gulch]

spare incase this happens again lol

[glass gulch]

or maybe this one will be the spare this one is the AVR model

[elfin plover]

thank u!

[quiet bay]

nice, now you have 2 wootings lol

[glass gulch]

I know lol Im actually not even mad about it at all. got a new skill and an extra keboard lol

[elfin plover]

so it seems like poron is the way to go if i want a more quiet/muted sound profile?

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[barren wasp]

I over grease my stabilizer. What should I do?

[polar girder]

Ungrease it

[barren wasp]

I tried washing

it still doesn’t work

[polar girder]

Washing? Just scoop the shit out.

[barren wasp]

I also used a swab and it still doesn’t work

[ionic breach]

wut

[robust siren]

how...

[ionic breach]

what did you grease it with

[barren wasp]

Did it put them on right I’m pretty sure bc my other ones work well

[barren wasp]

Molykote

The stabilizers are messed up what should I do?

[lone plume]

did you put in the wrong way?

[robust siren]

https://youtu.be/6Yz-UzTY8_I?feature=shared

[lone plume]

i also had that problem and found out i put in the wrong way and wrong hole lol

[barren wasp]

Thanks

[lone plume]

one way to check it out is the stem leg should be matching with the housing

[stone flax]

insert wire into stem side that has two holes facing it

not one

bottom hole not top

this

[lone plume]

mjj may i ask did you clip the leg?

[stone flax]

these are preclipped

[lone plume]

oh ok

the original stock is not clip

so im not sure whether should i clip it

[barren wasp]

Yeah I fixed it the problem was when I was testing the stabilizer I didn’t use the PCB with it so I was pressed too hard and the stabilizer I guess dislodged but now I’m testing with the PCB and everything works

I’ve been doing this for almost 7 hours I’m quitting modding after this

[lone plume]

it took me 1 week to finish modding lol

came back from work do 2 -4 hours

sleep

go work then again

take your time dont need to rush

[stone flax]

i mean

[barren wasp]

Lubing is definitely the worst mod to do however, all the other mods will be quick

[stone flax]

wdym other mods

[ionic breach]

tape 🔛 🔝

[barren wasp]

Or case swap or switch pads

[uneven cradle]

If you get well lubed switches just a little spring lube and you're pretty much good to go

[ionic breach]

just got a few raws

skipped out on evil dolch tho

[uneven cradle]

My 5ml of 105 should last a while for that

[lone plume]

hating my switch when stem top oit sound

stab sound ok but the normal switch top out sound bad for me. anyway to fix that?

[untold wigeon]

What springs?

[lone plume]

just the stock lekker switch spring

if not wrong mine should be 1.5v 60 lekkar

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq message

Self promo be like

"Switch Tape Mod"
This is a fix/mod to the stem wobble and chatter for the Lekker v1s or v1.5

[lone plume]

yeah i will try that

when my 105 arrive

im planning to lube my spring again with top housing lube first before trying that

switch tape mod is the last one i will go for since it make it mushy

[fluid ravine]

it doesnt

[lone plume]

i havent even using tape mod on pcb

[fluid ravine]

if you want to do switch tape mod i dont recommend applying lube on the top housing

applying the tape on the top housing with the lube will not make it stick

read the instructions and introduction

[lone plume]

ok will try when my off day then

[dapper sonnet]

hello 😁

[lone plume]

morning

[old swallow]

just installed the GEON raws, and damn, for sure best sounding switches. and feel great in game too

[dapper sonnet]

does the wooting sound decent out of the box?

[old swallow]

imo, sounds better then any other gaming keyboard out of the box

[fluid ravine]

[dapper sonnet]

thats great to hear

[ionic breach]

sounds tests are on wooting's yt

[fluid ravine]

we shall not ever talk about gmmk 3 pro sound test

[ionic breach]

with both versions of lekkers

[fluid ravine]

shit sounds worst than wooting stock by a ton

[dapper sonnet]

which version does the normal wooting have?

[ionic breach]

that sounds worse than razer

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

[ionic breach]

rn?

[fluid ravine]

lekker v1.5

[ionic breach]

v2s**

[old swallow]

if you are used to customs it wont be fantastic, but if you are used to a random razer/corsair/logi keyboard, then wooting is good

[ionic breach]

sound wise

[fluid ravine]

wait 60he prebuilt?

60he prebuilt should have the l60 v1.5

[ionic breach]

v1.5 and v2 sounds the same

[fluid ravine]

really?

[lone plume]

by right now all switch should be 1.5

[ionic breach]

what ive heard

[dapper sonnet]

yea i have a razer huntsman keyboard right now, hoping the wooting sounds better im gonna go listen to the sound tests

[fluid ravine]

honestly need to hear the 1.5 cus i found out about it like a month ago

[lone plume]

with 80 should be v2

[ionic breach]

take it with a grain of salt

[fluid ravine]

never knew wooting made a 1.5

[lone plume]

by left im not sure

[fluid ravine]

correcto

[old swallow]

sound tests are a decent indicator, but it will still not be exactly what you will have, since it depends on several factors. but it gives a nice idea

[dapper sonnet]

ah okay 👍

[lone plume]

i also coming from razer huntsman. is sound much better

like alot of better

[dapper sonnet]

thats good to hear

[old swallow]

things like mic, headset all those kinda things will make a difference. and then it will also depend on what your desk is made off. wheter its on mousepad, such things

[lone plume]

mine is the v1 so the spring sound is so bad. even after spray lube

[dapper sonnet]

if i were to get an aftermarker case what would be a good option because im not too fond of the yellow band on the keyboard

[ionic breach]

yea sure

you could also just take the strap off

[lone plume]

@fluid ravine time to promote your mod again!

[dapper sonnet]

oh my bad i didnt know that was a thing

[ionic breach]

you can also find some custom ones online

[fluid ravine]

oh lawd

LEKKER V1 PEOPLE, DO STM NOW

😂

Nah @quiet bay got it

[quiet bay]

[fluid ravine]

best sounding board with the lekker STM in the server

i retired

[quiet bay]

#1173784544529363034 message

Lekker v1 saver right here

and L1.5 too

only exceptions are the esc key, spacebar, and enter key that have raw he

[lone plume]

is that switch tape mod ?

[quiet bay]

yis 👍

[lone plume]

[fluid ravine]

OH

@lone plume i got smth for yo holup

#1261492527433781320 message

i was bored and decided to rebuild my stock wooting

[quiet bay]

oh yuh stock

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/pochita-chainsaw-man-gif-22471591

[fluid ravine]

this is it with the switch tape modded lekkers

v1

[lone plume]

man dont tempt me

[quiet bay]

[lone plume]

that mod will get me other few hours again

[fluid ravine]

well atleast you have to do it once

and never again

if you cant like afford to buy a new set of switches from the lekker v1

then sure i would recommend this if you have time on your hands

[quiet bay]

let me send my old sleeper wooting build!! (that has alot of pcb raise)

[lone plume]

yeah i like my poron switch pad and poron foam sound. (like it abit muted)

i will try it with 105 spring lube with that switch tape mod

see whether it improve further

[quiet bay]

ok damn this was an old build ngl

[calm pulsar]

that pcb flyin

[quiet bay]

🤫

[lone plume]

is that super thick foam?

lol

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/rootyroo-rootroop-morgan-stone-morgan-stone-gif-26225586

[calm pulsar]

but sounds great

[quiet bay]

wooting foam, tape mod, and with the gummy o ring mount

[lone plume]

but mine is twohe

not much option to mod

trying my best already

dont feel like buying new switch since other cost ahaha

[quiet bay]

best option is probably just to get nwe switches lel

o

[lone plume]

maybe it a challenge to make hte stock switch sound better

self torturing mode

[quiet bay]

indeed

it literally is torture

hoping for raws on wooting site soon 😔

[lone plume]

will do those mod when my off day then see how it goes

[quiet bay]

o god u sure u wanna do that on ur off day xd

[lone plume]

yeah

[quiet bay]

it will take a very long time

cause you gotta do like 3 layers for the most effectiveness

[lone plume]

omg

[quiet bay]

on every switch

[lone plume]

3 layer??

[quiet bay]

yes..

[lone plume]

since it medical tape

should be re-paste-able

[calm pulsar]

[barren wasp]

First time lubing

[quiet bay]

[lone plume]

yeah you have that top out sound too

but it good

[fluid ravine]

For first time lubing, its pretty good

[barren wasp]

ty

[fluid ravine]

as a enthusiast, i would say the board does sound thuddy

but you can fix it once you get more stuff overtime

[barren wasp]

i recorded it by leaving my phone on the desk

[lone plume]

maybe it on the wood desk table without mat

[fluid ravine]

despite recording wise

im listening to the switch

[fluid ravine]

still in the stock case or nah

im assuming so

[barren wasp]

stock case

[fluid ravine]

yea knew it

makes sense

any future plans for the board rn?

curious

[barren wasp]

i want my keyboard to sound like akko muo1

so ill switch the case to wood

[lone plume]

eh

[barren wasp]

and i may get a PC plate

[calm pulsar]

this looks like gta san andreas subtitles

[lone plume]

lol

[calm pulsar]

lol just random comment

[lone plume]

i google that akko muo1 sound thing and snip those foam that they have

isnt those foam like switch pad but in a piece of sheet form?

for top and rear pcb

[calm pulsar]

yes there are such sheets

usually pe or ixpe sheets

[robust siren]

realistically how long would it take to do switches, stabs+lube, case swap burger mount and tape mod

id assume around 4 hours?

[lone plume]

at least a day

[fluid ravine]

longer i'd say