🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

yurrr

[marsh saffron]

Beastx mini ftw

[fluid ravine]

lul^

[marsh saffron]

Cat dongle goes hard

[fluid ravine]

I'm already planning on what things i should and want to buy next

[marsh saffron]

Cat dongle

Forgot which photo showed it

[fluid ravine]

White audio setup: Rode PodMic White and White Standard or LP boom arm
Keyboard: Lone pole Stabs (LOL)
Mouse and mousepad: Just need a good control pad that is washable and a new mouse for claw grip like idk a Ninjutso Sora v2
Monitor: 1440p 144hz+

Pretty much all i want/need

[polar girder]

Wow bro

Massive gains

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

yet still not gaining

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-dancing-moves-gif-4650386

[fluid ravine]

LESSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Wait i thought you recieved the emma set yesterday 😭

[harsh dove]

Got the best switch puller too

[harsh dove]

It was late

[fluid ravine]

what the flip

[fluid ravine]

well atleast everything came all together

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

did you order the raws from divinikeys?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

icic

[harsh dove]

Shipping was $7 lol

[fluid ravine]

not bad at all

[fluid ravine]

so what's the plan now

gonna like put the emmas on the nipple case?

[harsh dove]

Yessirrrr

Xray cable I got just cause, I don’t need it but wanted to collect it lol

[inland saddle]

On everything I love people that work in dhl have less of a clue than me most of the time it is actually impossible to predict how much taxes you have to pay 1 time they wanted 94€ on a 135€ order like it’s actually insane

[fluid ravine]

man you collecting everything

it's not pokemon bro

chill

LOL

[harsh dove]

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-pokeball-gif-21700553

I may have collected another couple keycap sets

[fluid ravine]

only thing i collected is more homework

[uneven cradle]

Well I needed one for the 80he ya know and evil dolch just too good to pass up

[fluid ravine]

honestly evil dolch 60% set for $40

pretty insane to me

thats a steal

Seeing GMMK 3 and 3 pro on my news page (on my phone) just makes me wanna unalive myself for a moment

Here we go again
Mama mia

More expensive prices for who knows what!

[harsh dove]

Idk how I’m feelin, my friends said they like it

[fluid ravine]

That-

Is not how I expected it to be..

Well
Time to shine that rgb

Cus damn idk how to feel about that

[harsh dove]

With 100% White RGB

I like the set I just dk how I feel with em on this case

[uneven cradle]

They look quite reflective

[fluid ravine]

Yeah honestly I don't enjoy it on this type of case

[quiet bay]

nah I dont like it lol

[fluid ravine]

Black case maybe yeah sure but damn

Really not what I expected

[harsh dove]

I don't think I do either

[harsh dove]

I think they could look good on the silver frog tbh

[uneven cradle]

Could be good on the raw 80he

[stone flax]

raws sound test

?

or is this still black jades

[harsh dove]

Just regular Jades in that board

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

This is my Raws

[sinful pagoda]

I just upgraded my 60he with the super heavy silver plated metal keycaps. Love the metallic sound and look of it.

[robust siren]

holy fingerprint magnet...

[jade storm]

God I wish they sold full aluminum keycaps

[fluid ravine]

not a big fan of aluminum keycaps xd

but they cool

[jade storm]

Who sells some?

[fluid ravine]

awekeys

[robust siren]

not hating or anything but that windows key being off set kinda sets something off in me

[quiet bay]

ooh nice, sound test? >:))

[fluid ravine]

🔫

there

that's what it sounds like

[quiet bay]

You don't have a choice

[fluid ravine]

pew pew pew

[jade storm]

They actually aren't aluminum

Unfortunately

[fluid ravine]

deadass?

[jade storm]

yeah.

I wanted them

[glacial wind]

Man I have literally never seen a keyboard get hated on more than the gmmk3 lol

everywhere I look it’s being flamed

[fluid ravine]

im literally watching a vid abt it now

[glacial wind]

One of the videos I saw the guys comments was 99% flaming him for recommending the keyboard lol

To be fair he did say it was the best gaming keyboard ever and say it sounded good, so he brought that part on himself

[fluid ravine]

lmao

10 gaskets gah damn

[cold bloom]

hmm don't love it with that case

but the keycaps are clean af

the case colour is just a bit too dark

[ionic breach]

👀

[glacial wind]

Yeah those comments are rough lol

[ionic breach]

ya

[stone flax]

why the FUCK would anyone buy this over a spyder

[sinful pagoda]

lol. Keyboards sound like machine gun kelly

[glacial wind]

I don’t know how you listen to it and think it sounds as one of the best keyboards though

Like even someone with no keyboard experience can tell that sounds bad

[sinful pagoda]

No wonder why metal is a music genre

[glacial wind]

Oh this isn’t about that sound test above fyi just in case it gets mixed up lol. Talking about gmmk3

[fluid ravine]

oh my fking lord diggity dore, it sounds horrible

[stone flax]

https://clickclack.io/products/anorexus-void?

300 dollars

same cost as gmmk3

😭

[cold bloom]

LMAO

[stone flax]

1 billion keyboards and not a single one good

[calm pulsar]

if I see another keyboard in this layout….

[fluid ravine]

Zoom 65 v3 has spawned

[cold bloom]

oh lord it sounds horrible

omg

[quiet bay]

nah that has to be a paid sponsorship

he's being held at gunpoint

[fluid ravine]

bro

stock wooting is smth else (in a good way)

[cold bloom]

way better

[fluid ravine]

but gah fking damn

[glacial wind]

It’s the most confusing thing I’ve ever seen. He’s fighting everyone in comments insisting it sounds good

[fluid ravine]

how does a lekker v1 beat that piece of crap

[glacial wind]

no sane person even with zero experience in keyboards listens to that rattly mess and thinks “it sounds amazing”

[fluid ravine]

Membrane be sounding better lowkey...

[cedar gate]

What's new guys

[fluid ravine]

Glorious cant make keyboards for crap

[quiet bay]

either that or he's trying to cope by trying to justify how much he paid for that trash 😨

[cedar gate]

I answered and sent so many emails today my wrists hurt from the typing

[cedar gate]

Blasphemy

[quiet bay]

Till you hear it

[cedar gate]

A good membrane

[quiet bay]

and then it becomes comparable...

[cedar gate]

I am intrigued

[quiet bay]

no, the gmmk 3 just sucks 😂

membranes suck but somehow the gmmk3 could actually sound worse than a membrane

[cedar gate]

?

[ionic breach]

wait

[cedar gate]

I thought you said it was comparable

[ionic breach]

was he using the "silent keycaps" in that vid?

[cedar gate]

What even is that?

[stone flax]

what?

[ionic breach]

idk smt glorious said

[glacial wind]

Yeah he was

[stone flax]

he obviously got sponsored lmao

[cedar gate]

Bruh 🤣

[ionic breach]

bruddah

[glacial wind]

The silent sounds of rattling for a soothing typing experience

[ionic breach]

I want to imagine what the normal keycaps will sound like

if that is silent

[glacial wind]

Watch the randomfrankp video

It gets even worse with the other switches

[quiet bay]

yeah I did say that but did he need to defend the keyboard in the comments 😂

[stone flax]

he not tryna lose the future dough

[untold wigeon]

I posted this earlier. It is really bad

[stone flax]

and in case any of you not saw https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1fdkihk/glorious_deletes_any_and_all_criticism_in_their/

💀

gloros is such a good company

[pulsar schooner]

Ah

[pulsar schooner]

Only thing positive to say I have about it is dual mode MX / HE interesting

[robust siren]

why did this guy keep arguing about the starting price…

[ionic breach]

ikr

he better be compensated for this ngl

I want to reply to his tweet so bad

but it will be so immature

[fluid ravine]

the fk

...

[ionic breach]

yea ik

terrible joke

[fluid ravine]

just say the word...

[robust siren]

d1 wooting hater too…

[ionic breach]

but really this must be bait

[fluid ravine]

deadass?

[ionic breach]

the only comment is from glorious' account too

[fluid ravine]

wait isn't he that bald guy with glasses

[ionic breach]

I mean ya

[robust siren]

yeah, hes passive aggressive to people saying wooting is better than the gmmk 3 pro he

[fluid ravine]

respectfully, i never liked the guy

[gaunt plume]

Does anyone know about this switch?
Also, I would like to know which maker Co-gain is.
https://eu.dareu.com/products/dareu-ek75-rt
https://x.com/aoshijima/status/1833411356315554255?s=46

しじまアオ - EVERBLUES⌨️🔧 (@aoshijima) on X

これ、なんだ…？

Twitter · Sep 10, 2024, 7:45 AM

[mighty egret]

gmmk he price 💀💀

[glacial wind]

i'd understand if he had some basis for why he doesn't like wooting, but his entire reasoning seems to be "it's too hyped"

[fluid ravine]

not as a person but how he reviews stuff

[robust siren]

also he decided silent switches are the best sounding(?)

[fluid ravine]

;-;

preference?

i hope thats just his preference

[harsh dove]

Trying it on the frog

[glacial wind]

i don't think he even realized the pricing of these keyboards either

[fluid ravine]

not bad

[robust siren]

he did say he preferred silent but still calling it “best sounding” or whatever

[ionic breach]

ngl I thought it would be more matte

[fluid ravine]

oh lawd

[harsh dove]

I thought they’d be slightly lighter green but they’re kinda dark

[fluid ravine]

prefered and saying it's "best sounding" is just

[robust siren]

he said “it sounded better than every other he board”

[mighty egret]

lmaooo

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/ur-done-gif-24865712

[cold bloom]

okay I like that

a lot

[glacial wind]

for some reason he also seems to think gmmk3 starts at $90

[fluid ravine]

Im starting to feel toxic..

[cold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-it-a-lot-jim-carrey-i-like-it-like-it-a-lot-gif-6124575

[mighty egret]

isnt a good spec gmmk he like more expensive than a venom build

[fluid ravine]

against the dude

[harsh dove]

Yeah much better than the nipple case imo

[cold bloom]

LOL

agreed

[glacial wind]

it starts at like $120, but more like $140 in non NA regions

and $200 for HE version up to $420

[robust siren]

thats not even the board hes reviewing so it makes no sense

[ionic breach]

ngl rare hipyo w

[cold bloom]

@harsh dove green and silver is always such a good match

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think it works

[cold bloom]

yeah def does

[glacial wind]

yeah he picked the barebones version with no keycaps and switches and said $80

[fluid ravine]

what was the other green gmk set you have?

i forgot

[glacial wind]

the whole thing is the most disingenious thing i've ever seen lol

[harsh dove]

Botanical

[cold bloom]

I took the plate foam outta my bauer lite with xinhais, I can barely hear myself type

[fluid ravine]

ngl
Botanical sounds like a red and black set for me

[cold bloom]

huh??

[fluid ravine]

but kewl

idk

[cold bloom]

botanical like garden

plants

[fluid ravine]

idk what that word means 😭

[ionic breach]

wut how?

[fluid ravine]

idk :(

[cold bloom]

1. : of or relating to plants or botany. 2. : made or obtained from plants.

[fluid ravine]

yo boi dont know english THAT well

[cold bloom]

there you go

[fluid ravine]

thanks

[cold bloom]

there's often places called botanical gardens

with ponds plants etc

[ionic breach]

my country has one big ass one

[fluid ravine]

In my mind i keep thinking of symbiotes from marvel when it came to that word out of the blue

lol

[cold bloom]

that's gmk symbiote

[fluid ravine]

so random

😭

[cold bloom]

I wanna see that new aliens movie btw

speaking of that

I love alien predator etc

the original Alien movie is a fkn classic

[robust siren]

what made glorious think that having a switch not connect with the pcb a good idea

[fluid ravine]

i hate aliens ;-;

or any science fiction horror movies

[cold bloom]

bro it's so good

Arnold is in it

[fluid ravine]

id cry

[cold bloom]

wait

that's predator

sorry

the original one

[robust siren]

i saw it it was pretty good 👍, granted its my first aliens movie ive seen

[nova moss]

the sound test hurt my ears

[cold bloom]

that's good to know

the first Alien movie is insane

the find a huge one in Antarctica

[robust siren]

you should listen to the one from randomfrankp

it gets worse

[cold bloom]

that's the one I heard

[robust siren]

as soon as i heard it i had to close the tab

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

i get that its he but… how did you make it so bad

[cold bloom]

I have no idea

for 370$

stock

[fluid ravine]

370 just makes it so much more worst

[robust siren]

frankp’s was like 500(?)

[cold bloom]

it looks worth 20$

[cold bloom]

yeah this is just for the gmmk 3 pro HE

[fluid ravine]

[cold bloom]

I think he had some limited edition or something

or custom

[robust siren]

i think its the red case

[cold bloom]

OMG

ok yeah

the "randomfrankp" edition

is 542$

[nova moss]

LOL

[robust siren]

isnt his color blue 😭

[cold bloom]

IDK

WTF

[fluid ravine]

[cold bloom]

I'm lost

it looks like something straight off taobao

[fluid ravine]

Honestly couldnt think the logitech keyboard could not get any worst

[ionic breach]

please dont disrespect taobao like that

[fluid ravine]

but gah dayum

[cold bloom]

I'd HAPPILY use a logi board over that

any day

[robust siren]

well its not even he

[ionic breach]

at least taobao is cheap

[mighty egret]

lmao

[cold bloom]

atleast logi has some low profile boards

that are kinda different

[fluid ravine]

no im saying like the releases this year from these gaming companies

[mighty egret]

he bridge75 isnt good for he but rest true

[nova moss]

dude

straight up sounds like an office keyboard

[robust siren]

😂

[cold bloom]

it sounds worse than my work keyboard

and that's a hunk of junk

[fluid ravine]

it sounds worst than a generic membrane keyboard dafuq

[cold bloom]

I'll post a photo of it tomorrow LOL

[fluid ravine]

like my days

[nova moss]

why did he think that sound test would win people over

[fluid ravine]

how does it get worst

[robust siren]

he admitted it sounded terrible

[fluid ravine]

well i dont think he was like "promoting" it

i havent watched the whole vid

[nova moss]

ah

[mighty egret]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

[robust siren]

i can tell he genuinely wanted to like it

[fluid ravine]

but yeah he doesn't seem to be the type of person to like promote things in such way

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[nova moss]

He got his own version right

[mighty egret]

logi k120 mogs it

[fluid ravine]

hah real

[ionic breach]

i can tell he actually likes the product somehow

[robust siren]

lmao

[ionic breach]

idk why

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

randomfrankp was my first impression of the keyboard

[ionic breach]

wait no this has to be sponsored

[fluid ravine]

i havent watch any other vids on it

[nova moss]

that's what I was thinking

[fluid ravine]

not planning to anyways

[ionic breach]

he fking tags them, this has to be an under the table sponsor

[nova moss]

TheTechne one is very sus

[fluid ravine]

concerning

[cold bloom]

Techne is so odd

[nova moss]

Man it's sad how glorious has fallen so far off

[cold bloom]

ever since he tried to scalp his f&f pulsar mouse I was done with that dude

[robust siren]

he kept denying it and telling people off to tell glorious to give him the bag

[ionic breach]

glorious reposted a lot of tweets

they seem to be sponsored

[fluid ravine]

me buying the gmmk compact was one of my huge regrets in my rabbit hole

[ionic breach]

and he is one of those tweets

[fluid ravine]

even the keycaps (not really, needed keycaps anyways lol)

[cold bloom]

bauer lite >>>>>

[fluid ravine]

fr

[cold bloom]

there's so many good budget keebs now

[fluid ravine]

wouldve bought the bauer lite with that money

[cold bloom]

transition lite, classic tkl, bauer lite

etc

[fluid ravine]

ye

like aint no way i spent over $100 just to build a gmmk compact

with akko v3 yellow creams

[cold bloom]

I absolutely adore the bauer lite

[fluid ravine]

and still not yet satisfied

[cold bloom]

it sounds so good with so many diff switches

[fluid ravine]

fr

[cold bloom]

the small batch ones are so cool too

that 8008 one I sent you lmao

[fluid ravine]

redline would look sick on the red bauer as well

[robust siren]

for the same price as that gmmk pro he you can build a full custom wooting 60/80he and itll be infinitely better

[cold bloom]

yeah I almost got that instead of 8008

I think redacted looks the best on the rouge tbh

and maybe orange too

[fluid ravine]

yeah i was a sucker for both during the happy hour sale

[cold bloom]

redacted looks great on all of them tbh

[fluid ravine]

redacted sick as well

[cold bloom]

just such a good contrast

seafoam would slap with it

[fluid ravine]

redacted at home be like

Grabs GMK BoW
Scribble Sharpy on it

[cold bloom]

we have gmk modern materials at home

excuse my upside space bar

[fluid ravine]

haha

[cold bloom]

was trying it for typing but didn't love it

I like it for my gaming keeb tho

[fluid ravine]

for gaming it's not bad at all

[ionic breach]

usually only good for wasd gaming

[cold bloom]

yes agreed

[fluid ravine]

pretty comfy on a tilted angle

[cold bloom]

allows me to rest my hand properly

[fluid ravine]

but hate it for typing

[cold bloom]

same

[fluid ravine]

but i still use it normally for both typing and gaming

even with the keebmat raising the height of the board lol

[cold bloom]

if I'm using my gaming keeb I will

but otherwise I don't

especially cause it helps my left hand when gaming but I use space with my right when typing

[ionic breach]

not to stir up more shit

but

[fluid ravine]

2024?

like latest update?

[robust siren]

so… wanna explain why a 9/10 is above a 10/10 ignoring the keyboard selection

[ionic breach]

idfk

[late solstice]

tofu or alumazw?

[ionic breach]

both are decent

tofu is clean and minimal and alumaze is more fun

[robust siren]

i only got the tofu because the alumaze and wrist rest are ever so slightly different lengths

sound wise imo sounds pretty close but that depends on your build of course

[mighty egret]

lmfao

[ionic breach]

ngl im a petty mf and did some due diligence

that guys is so very iffy

[robust siren]

he even said hes not a keyboard guy so why defend it so much and hate others sharing an opinion

[ionic breach]

ya ik

but his stuff goes further than this

ill stop but this kinda leaves a bad taste

im so torn on the mictlan novelties, they are so nice

[robust siren]

do you have any keycap suggestions that goes with the stock wooting cable ana black tofu?

rn im using gmk stargaze clones (spacebar is so thin you can see the rgb through it)

[late solstice]

Speaking of keycaps can someone shair their 60HE with wooting's black and white wave keycaps?

share

[ionic breach]

up to ur budget

if you dont mind look thru ur local retailers

id recommend actual gmks and pbtfans personally

[robust siren]

yeah but its kind of a lot for well yk keycaps

[ionic breach]

yea ofc

[robust siren]

ill check out pbtfans

[ionic breach]

for cheaper options just look thru the internet

[robust siren]

👍

[robust siren]

closest thing i got is microcenter

but its just glorious/razer keycaps

[ionic breach]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

here a list for reputable retailers

[robust siren]

thanks

[marsh saffron]

with my build they were drastically different

alumaze sounded much more hollow/pingy

[deft turtle]

Anyone with v2 switches

Did you still lube them?

[young lantern]

i should probably wait before i pull the trigger on the geon raw he switches huh

im on the jades rn

[mighty egret]

i'd consider waiting for the proper jade pro and other new jade launch

[vague stag]

Used both the foam included with the redux and stock foam from the Wooting 60HE (giving it a gentle push to align the usb port). Really happy with how the board sounds, but should I be worried about the PCB?

[robust siren]

sale on geons website is ending in a few days, just a heads up

[mighty egret]

the woot code one?

[robust siren]

i believe its recommended to use one or the other and not both

[robust siren]

yeah

[glacial wind]

https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch has them in stock in the next day or so they said (for eu folks)

[fresh citrus]

Just got my raw HEs and my pbtfans Kabuki cho r2 keycaps, hype to install them later tonight :))))

[young lantern]

oof thats right

[robust siren]

im getting all my mods in roughly 2 weeks

[young lantern]

any idea when divinikey will be able to restock 50g raw he? cost is cheaper there in total than geon web + code

[robust siren]

they were in stock this morning

[fresh citrus]

I still got some screws and o rings coming for burger mount mod and I'll see how I like the keeb without tape mod with the new stuff and see how it is

[robust siren]

sold out immediately

[glacial wind]

lol

[young lantern]

sad

[ruby hill]

GLORIOUS now makes HE keyboards

[young lantern]

i bought the jades when they first came out and now im just trying to find an excuse to upgrade lmao

[robust siren]

i asked on their discord and didnt really get a response

[fresh citrus]

Hahaha fair

[young lantern]

i guess ill just wait till reviews for the max come out and see how they are vs the raw

[fresh citrus]

Such a mood tho

[young lantern]

i have another wooting haha ill just put the jades there

[fresh citrus]

Damn one for home and one for work?

[young lantern]

nono so i bought when the founders campaign first happened and i kept that stock and when the module came out i went all out on that instead

[robust siren]

what screws did you buy? and where

[fresh citrus]

Ahhh hahahah

[fresh citrus]

M2x6mm from amazon

Uxcell or something

[robust siren]

flat philips im assuming?

[robust siren]

i wasnt sure which lengths to go with

[vague stag]

And that’s due to the risk of the pcb bending in guess?

[fresh citrus]

Think so

[fresh citrus]

I heard that 6mm is preferred but 5mm works fine as well

[robust siren]

ah okay got it

[fresh citrus]

From wootings video it didn't seem to make a difference with feel but it seemed to sound better

[robust siren]

im not sure if its risk of bending but just what i heard from a lot who built it on yt

[robust siren]

well wooting used the stock screws which compressed them a lot

stock screws are 4mm(?)

[fresh citrus]

Mmm yeah I think so

[robust siren]

yeah in their tutorial there was a single thread poking out

[fluid ravine]

Should be 5mm

4mm for the pcb and plate

Don't got a caliper but I do know the pcb and plate screws are a mm less than the stock tray mount screw

[robust siren]

oh yeah

the 60he uses a mix of both

[fluid ravine]

Would recommend going for 6mm screws if youre burger mounting

[robust siren]

any idea how long the screws that come with the tofu are

[fluid ravine]

Yeah stock 5mm works fine but a bit longer would help you secure the mount and allows you to adjust it better

[fluid ravine]

No clue thh

Should check the descriptions page

I'm guessing 6mm

[robust siren]

it just said 1x screw set 🥲

[fluid ravine]

Someone said tofu screws are longer than tofu. Idk, it's been a while

[robust siren]

wait someones modding it rn

in general

[regal nest]

the 80he iso will need like 85 switches?

[elfin garnet]

@fluid ravine how did you fix your spacebar? Sound even and nice now

[ruby hill]

The gmmk 3 pro pcb can hotswap between HE switches and normal switches, Is that something never seen before?

[glacial wind]

It’s been done in some Chinese boards before already

Would not be surprised if gmmk is using the same manu

[ruby hill]

Any downside of it?

[crimson sky]

Pcb is littered and more expenses

[jade storm]

wait what

[regal nest]

geon raw he in stock on delta now - eu/france vendor

https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch?_pos=2&_sid=5f5cdf9c4&_ss=r

[ruby hill]

but the HE switches are getting better and better these days, perhaps we will no longer need MX switches anymore soon

[fallow imp]

I dont see that happening any time soon, mechanical switches are simpler, and in most cases you dont need HE switches(still nice to have though)

[marsh saffron]

Can't wait to see what's to come in the next 4-6 months

[jade storm]

Why does everyone like the Raw HEs

What's so good about them

[marsh saffron]

Sound, stem wobble, and they are quite cheap compared to jades

[ruby hill]

dont buy jades in this point, the jades pro seems much better

[marsh saffron]

Raws still might be even better than these though

[ionic breach]

very much so

[marsh saffron]

Also probably still cheaper

[ruby hill]

Jades pro 0.8 per 1
How much is the raw he after coupon?

[cyan zodiac]

Sound it mx will always be better than he

[paper bloom]

Stiffer and better in actuation

[dire delta]

MX Black (ergo clears are also good for tactile lovers) on Alu O-Ring 60% > every HE board

[paper bloom]

And it sounds similar to jades

[glacial wind]

Like 40 cents per or similar. But probably 45-50 per after shipping and such

[dire delta]

0.34 pre shipping pre taxes

0.6 at eu vendors

Geon is well known to offer his products cheaper

[winged turtle]

So do we all agree that Raw HE > Jades?

[dire delta]

Yep

[glacial wind]

Easily

[ruby hill]

Jades yes, jades pro not sure

[glacial wind]

Jade pros too honestly. Because at best it’s equal for more price to buy Jade pros

Only reason I can think why you’d buy jade pro over raw he is if you really want that minor pitch difference of jade vs raw he sound

[ionic breach]

i think jade pros, lekker and raws are all A atm

jade pros being a-, lekkers being a and raws an a+

[dire delta]

RAWs do have better springs for sure

[winged turtle]

RAWS > Jade Pro > Jades? what about raptors?

[ionic breach]

i do think the jade pros falls short of expectations for an improvement

[glacial wind]

Raptors not in consideration

[ionic breach]

quite bad rn in comparison to evrything

[ionic breach]

i do think deciding between these 3 comes down to preference

and anything else is objectively worse

[marsh saffron]

Nobody really cares about raptors anymore

[winged turtle]

undestandable

[ruby hill]

The sound test of the jades pro from gateron officially sounds awful, I have no idea why

[ionic breach]

they were

disappointing

but still they are the only makers of a marblely sound

so it is what it is

[winged turtle]

All im contemplating rn is the bottom-force for the RAW switches. Im not sure if the lightest (40gf) would be TOO light

[ionic breach]

what are you used to?

[winged turtle]

Ive used MX-browns for ~2 years

which are ~55gr actuation force

[dire delta]

go for the 60g

cuz they start at 45

if you liked browns

[winged turtle]

Thats what I was thinking

[ionic breach]

maybe you could dabble with the 50s

[winged sparrow]

me reading gateron jade vs geon raw discussion be like:

1. order jades from wooting.io
2. but wait, raws better? i order raws...
3. but wait, there are jade pros? but i already got normal jades ordered tho..
4. googling jade pros what the fuck are Jade Max switches man
   ???. realizes i have entered the rabbit hole of buying better switches until the end of time

[ionic breach]

if ur looking for smt lighter

[ionic breach]

its all prefernce just for sound

no objective benefits

[marsh saffron]

Basically just go raw he

[ionic breach]

dont get the jade max tho

[winged turtle]

I feel this to the bone

[ionic breach]

its fking 1 dollar per switch

[marsh saffron]

Ridiculous

[winged sparrow]

are jade max out yet

[dire delta]

Buy RAWs be happy

[winged sparrow]

any sound samples etc

[ionic breach]

dont even consider

[winged sparrow]

lol!

[ionic breach]

is ass

[marsh saffron]

1$ a switch is wild

[ionic breach]

if you like jades

get the jade pros

same thing

but cheaper

[winged sparrow]

idk, my normal jades will arrive along with lekker v2s and 80he this month i suppose

[ionic breach]

ya id reccomend u try them out

[marsh saffron]

I'm sticking with my ws dashes until some (actually good sounding) silent/quiet switches come out

[loud zephyr]

I will when it isn't short travel, goofy ass feeling for typing imo

[ionic breach]

its quite good

[marsh saffron]

The new silent HE from gateron sucks ass

[dire delta]

youll get used to it tho

I do run MX Hirose/Black/Vints for my other boards and i'm fine typing on RAWs

Maybe cuz I've used BCPs back then

[loud zephyr]

I have Jades and some long pole MX, it's ok, I don't hate it but would never buy again

[dire delta]

I get it

[quasi egret]

Guys I ordered me the Gateron Jade + Lube any tips on what I should do to the Stabs? Lube them or Replace? Do the Gateron Jades come with replacement stabs? TY

[ionic breach]

if you have good quality keycaps you can just use the default stabs

but if you dont mind, there is no harm in using the given long pole stabs

[quasi egret]

hey ty. what would be considered good quality? i have the wooting keycaps

[ruby hill]

GMK and SP

[fresh citrus]

Hey guys the non frosted bit is the led window right?

For the raw HEs

[ionic breach]

not shit keycaps

wooting is good dw

[quasi egret]

alr ty ty

[winged turtle]

I believe so

[austere creek]

yes

[fresh citrus]

Moment of truth soon

Sweet thanks guys

[winged turtle]

I'm still contemplating if I want to go with 50gf bottom out force for the RAW HE's or go for the 60's.... Im used to browns but Im not sure if I want to try and go lighter

[fresh citrus]

I got the 50s on my set and I've only ever used 60s I think

I'll lyk how it feels hahaha

[winged turtle]

that'd be great, thank you!

[fresh citrus]

I'll lyk when everything is back in

[ionic breach]

yo @hollow bear

https://www.etsy.com/sg-en/shop/CowKeebs

[hollow bear]

yeap alr talking to him about getting an insert for my home cluster

thanks for looking out tho :P

[ionic breach]

oh damn what types of custom stuff they have?

looks like it's customisable

[hollow bear]

he does custom designs for his plates with ur preference

you can check out the reviews to get an idea of the stuff he can do

[ionic breach]

yea I might get it for the 80he

tho I kinda do want to use the keys tho

it's clean af and having rgb is nice

[hollow bear]

I've been using 60% so I don't mind losing the home cluster

I mean it's not like it's a permanent mod too the insert should just fall out once you turn the keyboard over :V

acrylic option isn't too expensive either and his designs look real good

[ionic breach]

man I might look into it

let's just see how much it hurts not using the cluster first

[hollow bear]

for an insert looking that good I don't think I'd miss my home keys much x)

you can get an aliminum insert to match zinc case too

[fresh citrus]

they feel amazing

geons r goated asf

[winged turtle]

hows the weight? do you prefer them over the 60s you used previously?

[fresh citrus]

yeah feels effortless but it doesnt feel so light that im accidentally pressing keys

[winged turtle]

sounds perfect!

thanks for letting me know

[fresh citrus]

no worries my man

[stone flax]

this is kinda wonky for a question

preference is preference

[fresh citrus]

i forgot the numpad kit for my kabuki cho set and i wanna die coz of how scuffed it looks

[fresh citrus]

we're both used to only 60g bottom out thats why

[winged turtle]

I asked because just like me, he was previously using 60s, and I was contemplating

[fresh citrus]

and i just used 50 for the first time now

[stone flax]

yea

but since u expressed interest in 50’s you deffo should try it

doesnt mean youd necessarily like it

[winged turtle]

oh yea ofc

I was just looking for experiences of others yknow?

[stone flax]

i know people who were on 60g bottom out and now prefer 80g+

[winged turtle]

Ive had MX blacks before

[stone flax]

its just one of those things

[winged turtle]

they feel fine for me, but obviously on the heavier side

[fresh citrus]

i used blues for 12 years

[winged turtle]

so I was contemplating going a little lighter

[stone flax]

50 is nice

[winged turtle]

love blues

[fresh citrus]

i dont think i could go back after using these raws lol

[winged turtle]

hahaha

that's what I like to hear

again, cheers!

[fresh citrus]

no worries haha

The numpad is literally painful

Have to wait a week to fix this 😦

[winged turtle]

awh shit

[fresh citrus]

oh well tho

[winged turtle]

just a week!

[fresh citrus]

yeah hahaha wont be long until it looks clean

[winged turtle]

I have to wait for my wooting80 HE

until like mid november

:(

[fresh citrus]

ripppp

im glad i just went fuck it and got the full size

if i got this 80 i wouldnt be missing keys tho...

[winged turtle]

yea i know, I have hte wooting Two as well, however I got 2 faulty LEDS that were dead on arrival

[fresh citrus]

rip

[winged turtle]

so instead of getting a replacement, Ive decided to just refund it

[fresh citrus]

that sucks

[winged turtle]

and get the 80HE

[fresh citrus]

yeah fair

[winged turtle]

and I still have to wait for their reply to my refund request so can use the Two HE until they do :D

[fresh citrus]

ahaha yea

wooting two is so much better than the razer blackwidow i was using before

with the geon HE's its like a different keyboard almost its amazing

[winged turtle]

I can imagine man

[fluid ravine]

To be honest
I don't know what happened..

[fluid ravine]

I meant wooting*

MB it was 2am

[jade storm]

yea

[ionic breach]

any

brand dont matter

just type

[stone flax]

Did u try swapping the stabilizer

to make sure its a problem there and not like

the switch or something

[ionic breach]

standard gaterons i think

[gusty patio]

Saw someone mention another type of switches but forgot the name ... tmr?? I don't remember. Was going to look em up but now I can't find it anymore.

[stone flax]

swap the stab too

and if its the specific stab

just redo the job

wipe lube relube

[stone flax]

geon raw he

and have u done the part where u put the backspace stab into the enter stab and vice versa, or switch out any other 2u in

thats like the first thing you test

to see if its that specific stabilizer with an issue

[gusty patio]

Hmm, I don't think that was it? Cause that is pretty much my go-to option if the other stuff I was looking at doesn't convince.

Ah I read through a bit more and I get what is actually being said now. My bad. But yeah basically just going to sit through this next few weeks and see what those new gaterons sound like in a proper test. Also thanks for whoever posted that french webshop that stocks geons now, nice way to not have to deal with import duties 😔

[stone flax]

Raw he

[gusty patio]

Yeah I am leaning towards the raws tbh, they sound great to me. But my 80HE is like mid november so I dont have to rush. Yeah the new ones, although the Max(?) are ridiculously priced, I want to see them put to the test just out of curiosity

If I was getting it sooner I would have just ordered the raws already TBH

[loud gull]

We use Gateron stabilizers

[stone flax]

where are you

eu na au

[gusty patio]

EU (NL)

[ionic breach]

uk, my first though is always new zealand for nl

[loud gull]

We don't, but I do think if you reach out to [e-mail] they may be able to sell you a replacement part.

[ionic breach]

dk y

[gusty patio]

😉

[stone flax]

https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch

@gusty patio

[gusty patio]

Good stuff thanks 👍 nice to order from within EU. I think I will sit through the next few weeks and see if anything interesting pops up after people get them in their hands from either reviewers or first batch owners. I won't need them for like 2 more months anyway

[sweet oak]

dragapult keycaps
https://drop.com/buy/drop-captain-sterling-dcx-dragon-darts-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=987792

[sleek wagon]

Non wooting question but ALPS would be split spacebars and MX would be single regular size spacebar right? Krepublic doesn't make it very clear which probably means it's obvious, just want to be sure lol

[chilly mural]

Forgot drop also have keycaps, thought they only do headphones

[barren wasp]

How do I gasket mount my wooting

[pulsar schooner]

@stone flax I swapped the top housings from the raws to my black knights with 80g springs. 🤌🏻🤌🏻 Now they look like monochromes lol

[stone flax]

theyre so pretty

[stone flax]

pics??

[sweet oak]

yeah the new metal set they put up on their store looked pretty nice, grey black or deep blue choices

[chilly mural]

😭 no moneh

[sweet oak]

same

[chilly mural]

Gonna keep my keycaps budget around $100

[sweet oak]

a good choice id say

[barren wasp]

Is it possible to gasket mount with a steel plate?

[sweet oak]

many good sets

[stone flax]

keykobo is so disgustingly good

gmk goes on sale a ton too

for vendors

abs sounds yummy

[chilly mural]

Seems to be based on Asia, thanks for telling me

[loud gull]

yooo thats sick

[pulsar schooner]

I’ll have to get some when I get home

[young lantern]

thoughts on fr4 plate and geon raw/jade max? vs pc plate

just theorizing while i wait for the max reviews

[polar girder]

How they sound and feel?

[calm pulsar]

I have an fr4 plate and my jades' housing is swapped to black knights (less wobble), maybe it'll give you some idea of the sound

[hollow bear]

which wooting you talking about

[elfin garnet]

I got my PP plate from HypeKeyboards today. I like it. It's a tad deeper sounding than my POM was. Especially the spacebar. Feel is the same I would say.

[robust siren]

someone told me yesterday that tx ap's had some issues fitting onto the board but i already purchased them and they come in ~2 weeks

they said to get knights instead

#🪛│modding_faq message

[polar girder]

I’m still waiting on black sw knight stabs to throw in my nylon plate

[calm pulsar]

frog scheduled to arrive in 2 days

[elfin garnet]

lol! how you liking the nylon plate?

[polar girder]

I haven’t put it in yet

Tired of dealing it apart so many times so want to wait for Knight stabs lol

It looks good. Fair shade of grey

Little worried it might stand out but we’ll see

[tender anchor]

have someone tried out the tape mod on the 60he? I ordered both 80he cases (zinc and PCR ABS) and Im scared to use the tape mod and screw up the module thats why Im planing to order 2 modules instead

but if you guys have tried the tape mod in the 60he and is safe enough I wont need it

[calm pulsar]

use a sharpie for extra blackness 😎

[robust siren]

the only thing ive noticed is it gets like a few degrees warmer but the pcb should be fine

you have the jade pros?

[dusty pebble]

yes i bought some

[robust siren]

how are they?

[dusty pebble]

didnt try them yettt

i am on my way home right now

[calm pulsar]

are the jade max closed bottom after all?

[polar girder]

lol yeah I might just spray paint it if it’s a concern

Ez fix tho

[calm pulsar]

cant tell with the transparency

[polar girder]

That’s if I prefer nylon to PP

TBD

[dusty pebble]

just checked - closed bottom.

[calm pulsar]

ah nice

[dusty pebble]

the bottom of the jade max are pa12 nylon iirc

Geonworks is using the same material for the top housing of their raptor he switch

so why are they cheap

ive been told that the max are expensive because of the bottom housing being made of pa12

[calm pulsar]

hmm contradictory statements it seems

[dusty pebble]

Yes

I dont have enough jade pros for my 2HE lol

But it’ll suffice

[calm pulsar]

cute

probably costs $200

[polar girder]

$150

[dusty pebble]

neat

[hollow bear]

is there such a thing as a tiny external screen I can somehow clip onto my keyboard :3

[polar girder]

FML

lol

[tender anchor]

I live in Canary Island so maybe its not worth to mess around to not find out

[robust siren]

whats the average temp there?

[tender anchor]

24-25

[robust siren]

its not bad

currently where i live its also around that right now

[tender anchor]

so no issues on performance and the plate still in good condition after applying the tape mod?

looks interesting

do you have it for clackier or thockier sound?

[calm pulsar]

fortunately you don't have xray vision

[polar girder]

Bro thinks just cuz you cant see it with keycaps on it doesn’t matter

[calm pulsar]

I mean the switch color mattered to me cause I in fact can see the switches, so I made a black frankenswitch for that reason

but there's no way in hell you can see the stabs lol

the pcb isnt fully black too btw

the wires are golden on sw knights too

[robust siren]

personally i dont really hear much difference

there is a slight change though i am new to keyboard modding and im using the stock case

[polar girder]

I know bro you don’t have to rub it in

The bane of my existence

[calm pulsar]

actually now that I think about pcbs, venom60he has no rgb which probably saves some power for 8khz
it's all black too 😄

[polar girder]

Oh damn bro

You have my attention

Black Alu plate from cafege is stateside

Only a matter of time

Also waiting for that so I can kind of compare all 3 materials

[calm pulsar]

I believe 60% venom pcb releases soon, and its specific features would be 8khz, no rgb, support for more layouts like split backspace, 7u spacebar

but I think it might not be as good in the firmware/software department as wooting, so we'll see

if the rumored 60he pro is the same stuff it'll be insane

[polar girder]

Right

60HE PRO BLACK?!????

Idc about the diff layout and stuff. Although the symmetrical bottom row is kind of neat

8k would be nice tho ngl

[elfin garnet]

Understandable. I swapped plates and redid my stabs while working from home today lolol

[polar girder]

Nice.

[calm pulsar]

yeah considering that the standard 60% layout is just ripped out of the standard tkl/100% layout, the big spacebar looks kinda interesting, like it is its own thing for a smaller 60% keeb

[polar girder]

What’s your current config?

[elfin garnet]

50A tadpoles, PP plate, RAW HE with dual stage springs from AE (48g), silicone sandwich pad

SW Knights V1s

[calm pulsar]

I have these springs too but havent really tried them in a board yet
how do they feel?

[polar girder]

Stacked

Nice

[polar girder]

I love them

I have the lightest weight options

And compared them to stock BK and l35 springs

The dual stage is pretty nice and smooth NGL

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I like them as well - bag lubed and threw them right in

[polar girder]

especially if you want control like analog style

[calm pulsar]

yeah I do want control, but still not sure if dual stage vs heavier spring does it for me

cause these 70g springs feel nice lol

[polar girder]

It’s much smoother through rather then more of an actuating clicking type of press where the pressure/resistance changes throughout

[pulsar schooner]

Where you get dual stage HE springs?

[polar girder]

AE

[pulsar schooner]

Link?

[elfin garnet]

I think I like the fact that they are long - they feel snappier

[calm pulsar]

yeah I noticed they were quite long
compared to black jades' dual stage springs

my raws and geon springs are in the nearest city, should arrive very soon and I'll be trying out all the fricking springs lol

[polar girder]

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $2.73 | 22mm Two-Stage Magnetic Switch Spring Custom Gaming Magnetic Keyboard Wooting Gateron Magnetic Jade Switch 28g 35g 45g 55g 62g
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[elfin garnet]

yeah you're gonna have a ball with everything you got coming in

[calm pulsar]

true lol
I also got me some beyerdynamic headphones
gonna be hearing all the rats in tarkov

[elfin garnet]

dumbo ahh ears

lol

[pulsar schooner]

Thanks, 80g dual stages sound great

[elfin garnet]

which ones did you get. I'm rocking DT990 Pros on my 6th year I think

[polar girder]

Good headphones make a world of difference

[calm pulsar]

I got DT770 Pros cause I don't think my current environment is good for open back headphones

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I get that

[polar girder]

Yeah I love my open backs but I get that

[calm pulsar]

yeah I need to try them some time

[calm pulsar]

which ones you got?

[polar girder]

Sennheiser 560s

[elfin garnet]

They hold up so well. I only swap the cushions every 2 years or so

[polar girder]

With an ifi zen v2 DAC/amp

Pretty happy.

Don’t care to upgrade until if/when I go full splurge on 800s and a full stack lol

[calm pulsar]

ah yeah all the good stuff usually needs an amp too

for now I got me 80 ohms as I believe they don't really need an amp, but they can benefit from it

[elfin garnet]

yeah that's next if I ever upgrade lol

[polar girder]

Yeah same with 560s. They’re done direct to PC but the DAC/amp is definitely nice addition

[polar girder]

lol yeah. I keep seeing decent deals pop up online but I’m not ready to drop that kind of cash

So many other things to buy first lolz

[elfin garnet]

what's the name of the stack again

[marsh saffron]

I'm sold on iems

[elfin garnet]

is the brand schit or something

[marsh saffron]

Truthear zero reds converter me

[pulsar schooner]

What are you powering them off of?

[calm pulsar]

for now nothing really
I have an audient evo interface

[calm pulsar]

are those stickers lol?

[delicate flame]

The pinky thingymajiggy?

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[delicate flame]

Theyre Ultraglide ultragrip

[calm pulsar]

is it for extra grip or do you fear for legends fading lol

ah I see

[delicate flame]

0.1mm griptape fr

[delicate flame]

My gf stick them on bcs the griptape sheet layout looks like theyre for keyboard

Btw its not a wooting one

[calm pulsar]

@polar girder as a gamer do you find open backs provide any help with hearing footsteps better or do they just sound nicer for everything including music?

and also is your room treated in any way?

yall got me thinking maybe I should try open backs after all lol

[polar girder]

I game in the basement

Alone

At night

[pulsar schooner]

I run the JDS Labs Atom 2 stack

[polar girder]

And I can turn the furnace/AC off from my phone while I game for a couple hours lol which is nice

But they are awesome for hearing shit yes.

I used to play CoD and that was the big reason I upgraded from Turtlebeachea

But now they’re stellar for CS2

Directional audio pretty solid

I enjoy listening to music on them

All of the above

[calm pulsar]

it must be nice having your own house compared to commie concrete boxes we live in lmao

[calm pulsar]

I guess I will just order open backs too and just compare them

[polar girder]

lol true

[polar girder]

I think it’s worth the experiment

I kind of want to try IEM’s for the same reason

Saw a crazy deal on some IE300’s the other day

But I can’t do the in the ear thing

My ears are shot as is lol

[stray tiger]

I need to retest all of the switches in the 80HE to see if any of the under performers changed at all.

First I need some 80HE's though

These should work

[calm pulsar]

that's good for a start

[stray tiger]

I'll have to delete that eventually Im sure

[calm pulsar]

Save image as...

[elfin garnet]

yeah nah + you'd have to clean them properly every now and then zzz

[calm pulsar]

IEMs are probably great for super locked in sessions, but I think im starting to prefer something comfortable for long gaming/working sessions

[calm pulsar]

and that too 😄

[loud gull]

imma tell calder about this

[polar girder]

Oh I’m always super locked in

[loud gull]

@stray tiger What are your methods of testing the switches if they are compatible?

[dark quest]

I haven't dug too deeply into the switch stuff since I got my 60he, but are there any silent HE switches out that work with the wooting boards?

[stray tiger]

Simon gave me some parameters to check and we worked to develop a testing process/methodology which is pinned. Also, not sure if it was made public but the analog monitor is now available online! - https://analog-monitor.wootility.io/

[dark quest]

I glanced at that list of switches but didn't see any, not sure how up to date it is.

[loud gull]

Gateron brings a 'silent' switch. But I don't think it is really that muted

[dark quest]

dang

[calm pulsar]

wait which one is that?

[stray tiger]

If I'm only allowed one leaked picture. I'd like it to be this one (for obvious reasons)

[calm pulsar]

that's super cool

[stray tiger]

Cant wait for you guys to see all of them. Some are legit works of art

[loud gull]

All good. Impressed with the detail on that image tho

[dark quest]

my buddy ordered both of us 80he's last night, he was feeling generous I guess. I'm also debating between swapping out the standard L45's on my 60he for V2's, or trying out those geon raw deals, both options sounded good in the test video wooting posted.

[loud gull]

Silent jades. Still has to come. I asked internally if I could get some samples sent.

[glacial wind]

oh they ended up doing pics on the pcb?

[gleaming crow]

silent jades are a thing?!

[loud gull]

These are all images from volunteers and employees

[glacial wind]

ah neat

[dark quest]

ooohhh. I'm definitely interested in them if they're even a little bit quieter.

[loud gull]

We didn't have time to sell spots like we did on the 60HE

[stray tiger]

Stem swapped raptors are also a bit more quiet if you don't want to wait. Not silent, but quieter.

[calm pulsar]

lol if they are "jades" per se, so they must be closed bottom? but silent at the same time lol

maybe one can replace the bottom housing to an open bottom for a super duper quiet switch then

[dark quest]

I thought about going that route earlier this year when I got my board and was watching every video I could find, but ultimately decided to wait for a better option.

[untold wigeon]

@stray tiger nice. You have a lot of work ahead of you

[loud gull]

Not sure on exactly how and what. Believe the upstroke was silent, not so much the bottom out. But I don't know exactly anymore.

Believe someone shared some pics in discord

[stray tiger]

Indeed. I was told that the sensor range on the 80HE might be wider than the previous sensor, so I want to see if some of the weaker switches or maybe even the reverse polarity ones end up working better now.

[untold wigeon]

Somebody get this man more switches!!!!

[stray tiger]

I think between me, Cam and Aligner we have most of them

[untold wigeon]

Sweet. Wish I could do some official testing. I love building boards.

[winged turtle]

What's you guys' opinion about POM plates?

[stray tiger]

Anyone can be a tester! We can't do this alone, we need the community to help

[untold wigeon]

Is there a channel for me to get info on this

[stray tiger]

This is the channel. We welcome all tested, verified, reported information and results.

[glacial wind]

it helps if you end each message here with "glory to geon and all that he touches"

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok sweet.

[untold wigeon]

lol

[stone flax]

Wtf…. We could have identical builds if i got 50a tadpoles

[polar girder]

Praise be.

Always and forever.

All roads lead to the Kingdom of Geon.

[stone flax]

how do you like ur 50a’s over 80 @elfin garnet

[stray tiger]

"Blessed be thy Woot"

[stone flax]

this blud dont even main raw he’s

[elfin garnet]

I like it over 80 because I feel the case pings less on top row

[uneven cradle]

POM generally pretty good if you're after some thock, makes a deeper sound then say PC

[stone flax]

definitely why im consdering it

[elfin garnet]

def worth a try

[stone flax]

people mention it helps deal with resonance cause it kinda just dips in rather than smack down on the case

[elfin garnet]

yeah exactly

[stone flax]

either 50 or 60

im thinking

hmmmmmMmmmMmmMmm

surely softer is better

[elfin garnet]

dont think there's much difference between the two. Luckily tadpoles are the easiest thing to swap out

[stone flax]

for sure

whered u get urs btw?

[elfin garnet]

My frog?

from geon himself

I have 2 tho. Bought a red one locally

[glacial wind]

Man we’re so close to even eu starting shipping. Already Thursday in some places

The two weeks without my 60he hasn’t been as bad with 80he not far away

[stray tiger]

Where is your 60HE?

[glacial wind]

Sold it since it was being demoted to my travel board with 80he incoming. Going to replace with the totally not leaked 60he pro whenever that comes out

[elfin garnet]

link to leaks?

😄

[glacial wind]

Definitely not in the last livestream somewhere

[stone flax]

the tadpoles

[elfin garnet]

I actually bought those from Geon as well and the second case I bought used came with all of them

So not the product page where it says "Add-ons" first