🔧│keyboard_modding

[vivid totem]

lol

[stone flax]

lol

[vivid totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8YzRlrnGw

hes totally just comparing pe foam to inner switch materials eh

no need to type back, i cant see your comments

@fresh citrus good luck man, post your build when done

[stone flax]

always seems like thock heads who buy 19 layers of dampening end up in friction with me

[calm pulsar]

those foams/films dont work the same on HE boards

[stone flax]

shhh dont let him know

[fluid ravine]

Don't mind the pfp, just trolling me nephew

[calm pulsar]

lul

I can't really see it cause all of those discord animated things

[fluid ravine]

lul

[calm pulsar]

tbh I might have to stuff my frog with a ton of foam because I will have only the alu plate initially😭

[stone flax]

aaa

get a tasty soft plate

[calm pulsar]

yeah I gotta order some black POM or PC plate

[stone flax]

also is it just me or isnt stacking on an extra 0.5mm between the pcb and magnet not gonna mess up the sensor and calibration

like ur literally putting the magnet farther away that it was originally supposed to be as it rests on top of sheets and pads

[calm pulsar]

from my experience all it does is simply move the actuation point a bit
I havent had any weird issues

[stone flax]

i cant imagine this in conjuction with a weaker magnet and full travel working properly

but i could be wrong lol

still

a half millimeter of displacement

[calm pulsar]

I use some sheet that comes with kbdfans 60he plates, it's not IXPE for sure, I use it and the keyboard feels as snappy as before, can't really notice it

not sure what it even does tbh, just use it cause they sent it with the plate lol

[rich phoenix]

Don't like the feel of my v1.5 so i got Jades. Could use the stock gateron stabs as they seem to have only marginal wobble, but the long pole have 0 wobble

[tawdry tree]

Poron 0.5mm is fine but 0.2-0.3 is recommended.

Calibration can tank quite a bit

as well.

[stone flax]

who cares about sensors not calibrating properly

im in it for the thoccy thoccy

[tawdry tree]

YES!!

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

anything for thock!

[stone flax]

EVERYTHING FOR IT

[tawdry tree]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[stone flax]

SACRIFICE FEEL AND FUNCTIONALITY

[tawdry tree]

🥸🥸🥸

[stone flax]

I WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE I PUT A PILLOW OVER THE BOARD

wait

[tawdry tree]

🔥🔥🔥

[stone flax]

thats actually the next progression of thock

just put a blanket over ur wooting

[tawdry tree]

lmfao

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

bro is a thock innovator

[calm pulsar]

foam layers
now on top of the keyboard

[stone flax]

know thy enemy

🧠

[calm pulsar]

stick foam to the keycaps for that soft thock keypress

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-throw-sacrifice-simba-sacrificing-gif-17413569

@stone flax I tell you to play nice and 12 seconds later you’re arguing again. lol. Be nice! 😜

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-sandwich-youre-mean-throwing-out-window-gif-25466919

Throw it out the windowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[stone flax]

is it wrong advice to tell a guy getting raws he maybe shouldnt drop 20 dollars for switch films, an ixpe sheet, case foams, and switchpads before he even gets the raws in

like genuinely

guy might go into a thock coma before even typing on a switch

[tawdry tree]

the quality of this shit gets worse every repost, funny asf 😂😂

[viscid cipher]

That adds to the meme

[tawdry tree]

exactlyy 😂🤣

[untold wigeon]

You’re going to be hard pressed to quiet down a Raw. They are the loudest he switches

[viscid cipher]

I really want to hear the v2s from other reviewers too

When is the embargo lift again?

[untold wigeon]

Wooting released a video today. They are not bad

[tawdry tree]

You can already buy them

[jade storm]

Raw's or Jades?

[tawdry tree]

From their EU store at least.

[stone flax]

i will kill you if you get jades

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V2s.

Oh

Bro how is that even a question??

[viscid cipher]

That's why I'm specifying "from other reviewers", I really didn't like the mic used in today's video, made it very hard to distinguish switch sound IMO

Which is fine, that's why it's important to have different reviews

[untold wigeon]

Point taken

[viscid cipher]

RAW sounded the best to me from that video but people say they are a lot clickier IRL

[fluid ravine]

clickier?

higher pitched/clackier*?

[tawdry tree]

Raws depend, unlike Jades, Raws are more affected by what’s between the plate and PCB and what’s in the case.

[tawdry tree]

CLICKY RAWSSSSS

[viscid cipher]

yes

[fluid ravine]

which is insane

and i enjoy that it does tbh

[tawdry tree]

yeah same

gives a bit more freedom than the Jades

[fluid ravine]

i'd say it's now more versatile on tuning the board to what you like it to be

gosh english is not englishing

[viscid cipher]

Yeah which is also a good point since the video from today was not on a stock keyboard

[fluid ravine]

English nerds, did this make sense?

[jade storm]

why

[jade storm]

why

[fluid ravine]

Well it was on a stock board actually

[viscid cipher]

mods have confirmed he had a custom tape mod with the "built-in tape mod" removed

[fluid ravine]

Ik it says "Tape Mod" in the description but the 80HE stock already comes in tape mod

[viscid cipher]

Which is by definition, not a stock board

[fluid ravine]

well

yeah ig

it said 1 layer right?

[viscid cipher]

I don't quite remember tbh

But he said here in Discord that there is a difference and he likes his mod more than the stock

[pulsar schooner]

I run five layers on all my boards

[tawdry tree]

Yes it makes sense.

[fluid ravine]

thanks

[tawdry tree]

Because they’re the same price when Raws have tighter tolerances and are by Geon.

[cold bloom]

Erm

[jade storm]

let me buy your HM66 module

[pulsar schooner]

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[tawdry tree]

Get the prebuilt I sent u, sell the Jades and you have it for $60 less than what I paid.

😁

[stone flax]

its a promise

[pulsar schooner]

[cold bloom]

yeah that makes it better

[pulsar schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/steve1989-mre-mre-info-74years-old-nice-gif-16007052

[jade storm]

how about the case and caps

throw them in the garbage?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, you could. Or you could keep them, the case is just a plain GH60 that can be used with another board.

It’s a really good price

what was it? Like $180

same as a 60HE

[pulsar schooner]

Based

[stone flax]

hm66 is nice

[tawdry tree]

it is

[jade storm]

just sell it to me

[sleek wagon]

Anybody got a freebird they have pics of

[fluid ravine]

@calm pulsar

[sleek wagon]

Might buy it for the lower typing angle than the tofu

And rounded corners

[fluid ravine]

^

Those are the only photos i yoinked from Arc

[sleek wagon]

hell yeah preciate you

[fluid ravine]

yup

[sleek wagon]

really like the look of that case

Might buy one and attempt to paint it the same dark grey as the tofu

[jade storm]

don't

[sleek wagon]

Didn't there used to be a channel to show off builds?

[jade storm]

get someone to anodize it for you'

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[sleek wagon]

That's weird I wonder why it disappeared for me

[fluid ravine]

it was a contest

it already ended

Pochizo Won and got $200

of store credit

[sleek wagon]

yeah I remember that one, I was talking about wootstations channel

[fluid ravine]

oh

really?

idk havent seen one then

[sleek wagon]

Right here

[glacial wind]

Honestly a travesty that my church of the white 80he submission wasn’t allowed

[hard flower]

Now the only question is how many Raw HE I should order

110+70+90 or just 90

Literally just did a Jade swap ;-;

[sleek wagon]

I'm curious.... would vinyl wrap work on a keyboard case?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[sleek wagon]

Could be interesting

[fluid ravine]

Pochizo done it

[sleek wagon]

I have experience wrapping cars

Maybe I take that route before spray painting

@quiet bay you vinyl wrapped your case?

[quiet bay]

Ye

Partially

just for design

[sleek wagon]

What brand wrap

Only thing I'm worried about is the corners

[quiet bay]

I think I ordered vvivid off amazon

[stone flax]

$39 gmk is here

finally

[quiet bay]

I didnt wrap the whole case

[sleek wagon]

Oh ok cool, gonna try it out once I get my freebird

[polar girder]

https://geon.works/products/gmk-evil-dolch-the-split

Geon out here doing the lord’s work

[hard flower]

To full send, or not to full send. That is the question

[stone flax]

full send and wait till january

[cold bloom]

I really need to try and dremel off the 2 middle standoffs in my tofu case sometime

they're so fkn annoying

[marsh saffron]

I really want to dremel a slot for my strap

But I'm afraid I'll regret it

[cold bloom]

lol that might be tough

but it could work

[marsh saffron]

Only problem would be that I couldn't get the paint to match properly

I'll more than likely never do it but the thoughts always at the back of my head

Just need wooting to make a numpad with a strap slot 🔥

[fluid ravine]

Dude I wanna dremel all of my standoffs off

I want them OUT

[cold bloom]

That's what Im SAYIN

[prime orbit]

No update on my Redux for 6 days now

[broken cape]

ever since i bought my module + jades, the whole discord is bashing jades and praising raws :'( I mean I got no comparison, but I really enjoy my jades so far

Or well, my comparison is Lekker v1.5

in a stock wooting two he

[tawdry tree]

Haha, it’s no biggie. Most recommend buying Raw HEs over Jades for obvious reason but that doesn’t mean Jades are bad at all.

Going from Lekkers to Raws is a great upgrade but going from Jades to Raws isn’t really that much of a difference.

[broken cape]

closed bottom squad, yeah, I can imagine

[tawdry tree]

More people are bashing Gateron because of their Jade Pros. 😂

and the shameless pricing of them to be specific.

[wraith widget]

Well they're currently over 2x the price of Raw HE with the discount code on Geon's site 😂

[tawdry tree]

Geon: Two magnetic switch releases in total.
Gateron: 193735 switch releases of which 64835 were recolors.

[crimson crown]

so wait are the raw HEs a deeper or clackier sound compared to the lekkers

[tawdry tree]

Geon

[tawdry tree]

Clackier

They have a semi closed bottom.

[crimson crown]

what would be a deeper sound then im curious

i feel like my keycaps could go either way though

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights are the go to currently.

[crimson crown]

picture?

[wraith widget]

https://youtu.be/wYACSlhQg9E?t=213

Timestamped to where he rotates between switches fast

Personally I think the Raws sound best here

[tawdry tree]

https://moyustudio.world/collections/switches/products/in-stock-black-knight-magnetic-switch

[wraith widget]

Lekkers are lacking a bit in the sound department

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V2s should be almost identical to Black Knights.

but Black Knights are $20 for 70, whereas Lekker V2s are $40.

[crimson crown]

is there a better sound test of the raw HEs

[wraith widget]

I mean I guess what most people are waitng for currently is the new Jade Pros etc to be put against the Raws for a sound test

[crimson crown]

ah fair

[wraith widget]

Yeah I felt like they were fairly similar

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message note, this is neither a stock 80HE nor a stock 60HE.

[wraith widget]

Jades and Raws are also fairly similar-ish but Jades cost double currently

[tawdry tree]

You can get Jades for around the same on Ali

Raw HEs are far more worth it though.

[wraith widget]

In Geon I trust

[crimson crown]

did you all see the gem80 keycaps i got yesterday for my wooting 60he

[ionic breach]

might be just me

[wraith widget]

I'll put them in my 80HE and not worry about it for a few years

[ionic breach]

but the kinda was a lot of noise in the soundtest

[wraith widget]

Definitely

I mean it's Sander's home so he hasn't got the most pro setup I guess

It's very good though

[crimson crown]

i wanna mod my wooting at some point

beyond just keycaps

[wraith widget]

Buy Raws for switches and call it a day

Because Gateron will release 42,000 more Jade variants in the next few years

Charging a dollar per switch, milking people

[loud gull]

It is my personal setup, yeah. 😛 But it does the job haha

[wraith widget]

Oop here's Sander, hide

[loud gull]

AYO NO HIDIN HERE BOI

i see it all

[wraith widget]

😅 Your setup is nice for sure

[crimson crown]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message anyhow these are the new keycaps i got (the gem80 msa ones) they’re pretty nice tbh

[wraith widget]

I didn't mean it in a bad way, it's just not pro like zero noise sound test

[crimson crown]

i really like them compared to whatever crappy clones i had before that i overpaid for

cause i got these keycaps for the same price and the quality is way better lol

[wraith widget]

They look nice although the profile is... XDA?

[crimson crown]

the profile is mSA not XDA

think its like some nuphy specific profile they made for their keycaps

[wraith widget]

Ah

Never heard of it

[crimson crown]

the arrow keys are slightly off profile since theyre designed for the bottom rows and not ESDF

[wraith widget]

I do prefer the stepped keys from the more traditional profiles like OEM but I am open to all keycaps as long as they look nice lol

[crimson crown]

iirc mSA is slightly stepped

[wraith widget]

It might be XDA but slightly stepped version? That's cool

[crimson crown]

its basically a shorter version of standard sa profile with rounded tops

[loud gull]

Yeah those on the image don't seem XDA. These keycaps are more rounded yeah.

Tbh, XDA is my favorite profile. Though it doesn't have any proper orange and white combo's. 😛
So I've pretty much gotten used to Cherry/OEM

[wraith widget]

https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-cheering-f1-keep-pushing-orange-gif-14908578

[jade storm]

Mr Gray

fancy seeing you here

[wraith widget]

https://tenor.com/view/bhago-re-bhago-gif-675814978061169584

[crimson crown]

im gonna admit this is probably my first non shinethrough keycap set

i like it a lot

[jade storm]

where did you even get this, this is Plipps

[wraith widget]

RGB highly overrated

[crimson crown]

i guess the centering bumps have shinethrough though but i wouldnt count that

[wraith widget]

Especially on keyboards 😅

Looks so much cleaner without RGB

[crimson crown]

i like rgb, its just it feels kinda tacky having the letters light up

[wraith widget]

Idk I just feel like for custom keyboards... all the work people have put in making it sound and look nice with mods... it's a little bit tarnished by turning on RGB

But each to their own I guess

[crimson crown]

thats the neat part of having a non shinethrough keycap set though, you actually have the choice

with shinethrough keys you kinda have to have the rgb on or they look bad

[glacial wind]

there's a ton of raw he switch sound tests at this point

https://youtu.be/79RcRFiSKm0?si=7l0n5dL6j2isOrZL&t=159

[crimson crown]

honeslty though having rgb off but with it turning on when you type with the aoe effect is also nice

i kinda like it like that tbh

[wraith widget]

https://youtu.be/2w--fJRongM?t=218 I like this one

If my 80HE sounds like that I'll be more than happy 😂

[cyan zodiac]

you should buy from geon if you don't want to wait, we it gonna be a while for raw he to come sadly

[wraith widget]

Anywhere close to that

[fresh citrus]

Ahaha I got them already

The discount code made me just go fuggit

Well I ordered them last night

[cyan zodiac]

[crimson crown]

whats the travel on the raw HEs

[wraith widget]

Same as Jades I believe... 3.5?

3.4?

[glacial wind]

3.4mm

[crimson crown]

am i the only one who prefers a macOS layout keyboard even on windows/linux

[fleet pumice]

think i found it on reddit or scrolling through google

i can't remember but i saved it from the internet for inspo

[glacial wind]

keep in mind one thing to consider beyond pitch is fullness of the sound. So some switches sound fuller/less hollow than others too

it's why a lot of folks who like 'thock' still go jades or raw he because the current thock options haven't quite caught up to mx yet

[crimson crown]

thats partially why im leaning towards the raw HEs even if i thought i'd prefer deeper sounds

[loud gull]

I feel like the coming 12 months, there will be a lot of things happening with switches now people know HE is here to stay.

[glacial wind]

yep. The raw he are 'cleaner' and more distinct you can say vs. the thockier he switch right now, even though they're clackier

[crimson crown]

i didnt know how to put it into words but they just sounded better

[glacial wind]

i think people are waiting for something like this, but it doesn't exist yet for thock he: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmmg5NpMmrA

[ionic breach]

raws is as pure as a thack can be

[crimson crown]

honestly i'd love for wuque studios to make a Morandi HE

[wraith widget]

I buy Raws now and revisit this in 2 years or so, or when Wooting releases another keyboard that I like 😂

[crimson crown]

thats like my dream switch there, cause i really like the housings visually

[glacial wind]

yeah that's the hollowness that some folks don't like with open bottom he switches. Just unfortunate byproduct of it not bottoming out the same way

[crimson crown]

how much are the raw HEs

[loud zephyr]

I'm waiting for the next Wooting to be like this

[glacial wind]

i'm sure eventually someone will figure out a proper thocky closed bottom he switch though, maybe in the next year or so

[loud gull]

Marbly/Creamy sounding switches still need to be developed. Now the current switches use the same structure are normal mechanical switches and I feel like to get into marbly territory. You'd have to change up the overall design.

[wraith widget]

Although Sander cost me $12.60 by releasing the video with a Geon discount code 1 week after me buying Raws jk

[glacial wind]

depends on where you ship them to if you order from geon. But he has a code right now 'woot' to save on checkout until 15th

[loud gull]

Not my fault for you being impatient hehe 😛

[crimson crown]

im gonna admit this kind of switch is what i actually want, not like an extreme thock but kinda marbly

[ionic breach]

should have consulted an oracle

[loud gull]

I want this as well, my regular mechanical keyboard has these + tactile. I need tactiles. 😄

[wraith widget]

uh... with discount code $30 for 90 switches... with.... $22 delivery fee, but it's very rapid shipping from Korea

So it's $0.34 per switch currently, plus shipping and customs

[hushed stirrup]

i literally ordered the raws 1 day before discount came out 😔

it arrived today and i just got done swapping them

im not even mad i missed the discount these feel amazing

[wraith widget]

Worth

[crimson crown]

im probably not gonna impulse buy because of a discount code

i need time to think stuff over

[wraith widget]

Another bonus for the Raws is they don't need to be handlubed which can take like 6 hours 😂

[crimson crown]

i wonder is there anyone else here who replaces their movement keys with some sort of accent keycap or arrow keys

[glacial wind]

problem is row heights don't usually match if you use arrow keys

there are accent or different material keycaps that people use sometimes though

[crimson crown]

yeah i kinda have that problem with the keycaps i have for the arrow keys

[glacial wind]

but generally it's hard to match exactly so not super worth

[crimson crown]

they feel raised slightly compared to the rest of the board

[loud zephyr]

like this? I did it for a solid month but the texture made it slippery https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1247466779211726879/IMG_0721.JPG?ex=66da1438&is=66d8c2b8&hm=c47f5294605b3e491e9f2781d832bfffa35208c37093d21fb51bd2c216e12361&=&format=webp&width=1125&height=843

[hushed stirrup]

i hand lubed and filmed my lekker v1 that took my entire night

factory lube in the raws feel perfect

[crimson crown]

kinda like that

for me my movement keys are ESDF

[ionic breach]

a lot

either physical or with rgb

[dire delta]

Increases the multiple opening of the switches the top housing wobble?

[obsidian dagger]

probably?

[tawdry tree]

Not really, unless a hook is completely bent and not latching onto the bottom housing anymore.

[ionic breach]

full black cable

or black with silver connector?

[languid forge]

i think the gummy o ring I bought was TOO thick

to fit into the case with it on

I have the wooting 60he module

any recommendations?

[cyan zodiac]

you have to remove the silcone plate foam to make it work

[languid forge]

I have a poron pad

I actually am not 100% sure if it doesnt fit

I will test later

The first test it looked too big tho

[dire delta]

It's an older picture but I did cut the poron pad for the o-ring mount

[languid forge]

ohhh

sweet idea

really smart

would it affect the sound in any way?

I wouldnt assume im guessing

[dire delta]

Didn't compare but the sound was good compared to tray mount in my Klippe T

I did use an Alu Plate tho

[languid forge]

idk what I have

Im using the oringinal one that the module comes with

[dire delta]

You bought the assembled 60he or the module?

Module is PC

[languid forge]

so im good

kk

very nice

Ill look into cutting the poron pad

rn im bouta tape mod

ALSO

when tape modding

Im going to leave holes for the screws

but should I also leave holes for the stab holes?

[cyan zodiac]

if you have plate foam

you have to remove it

to make oring fit

[ancient kiln]

I just got the he 60+, what upgrades should I make to waste my money on?

[wraith widget]

All of them

[cyan zodiac]

do all them mods

tape mod

pe foam mod

plug the but mod on stabs

[wraith widget]

Buy all 462 Jade switch Variants to test their hifi sound

Then end up buying Raws

[stone flax]

[languid forge]

real

[dire delta]

Buy RAWs

[hard flower]

What's the most popular bottom-force for Raws? Which would be the closest to Jades?

[mighty egret]

iirc jade bottom out is 55g

50g raw is the most popular

oh nope jades are 50

[hard flower]

Thanks

[stone flax]

50

[remote cairn]

Should I get raws over jades?

[wraith widget]

There's a coupon code for Wooting users on the Geonworks website 🙂 Code is WOOT

It's roughly 30% off each switch

[keen urchin]

Does the geon raw he has an clacky or thoccy Sound type?

[fresh citrus]

clacky pre sure

[remote cairn]

#👀│youtube_updates message

[remote cairn]

And do they come with stems in case of a long pole problem?

[keen urchin]

I see

[stone flax]

raws

[wraith widget]

They come with 1 stem only

[stone flax]

? what comes with stems?

[wraith widget]

If I have issues with stabs I'm just gonna use a V2 on that key

[remote cairn]

Aside from being cheaper, what have they got for themselves?

[remote cairn]

raws

I know jades will, wooting said it

[stone flax]

other than the stem inside the switch no

[wraith widget]

They're awesome, currently the best HE switch according to a lot of people, disregarding the price

[remote cairn]

Why is that? Why are they awesome?

I’m not trying to be annoying, just trying to understand

And not remove my jades for no reason

[wraith widget]

They sound great, have great build quality and very little wobble

Also don't require lubing, factory lube is good enough

[remote cairn]

Compared to jades, they’re pretty much the same or raws have less wobble or something?

[fresh citrus]

anyone got experience with these gskill caps?

[remote cairn]

I’m also trying to listen to the diff with jades but I can’t really notice it

[fresh citrus]

geons r cheaper than jades as well

the raws

[wraith widget]

Turn your volume way up 🙂 They are both quite similar but there is a difference

[remote cairn]

I know that

[wraith widget]

If you can't really notice a difference then it doesn't matter, just buy either one you want

I don't think there's much difference in wobble either

[remote cairn]

Yeah I think I noticed it but it’s so subtle

[wraith widget]

Yeah

I think Jades might be a little bit more clacky

Small difference

[remote cairn]

And when you compare factory lubing and build quality?

[remote cairn]

Yeah, I wanted thocky at first but when I stumbled on a test with jades I fell in love

[wraith widget]

As the Jade probably has more clack that would also suggest the Raw has more thock 😅

[stone flax]

less

[wraith widget]

I don't personally have the jades but I do have the raws and they are great

Some people say Jades are good enough stock too without hand lubing

[stone flax]

i dont honestly know whyd someone would choose jades

[wraith widget]

Idk, maybe Gateron is a bigger company so they're more well known 😂

[stone flax]

$1 a switch

[wraith widget]

It's like why do people have Logitech keyboards 😂

Or ASUS ROG

[wraith widget]

Well normal jades are like 0.70 or something

[remote cairn]

What should I get for the bottom force, same as jades 50gf?

[stone flax]

arent raws .48

[stone flax]

if u want

or go lighter

or go heavier

[wraith widget]

0.34 with the code but high shipping cost + customs

[remote cairn]

I’ve only had mx red switches my hole life

[wraith widget]

Will bring it to a similar ish price of .60-.70

[stone flax]

i meant non sales non shipping

divinikey sells it to US for that same rate + less than 10 dollars shipping

other vendors should start carrying raws too soon enough

[wraith widget]

They probably should

[stone flax]

no

i mean they will

not should should

its going to be happening

[wraith widget]

Eventually but I'd say Gateron are bigger so they can get them distributed better... possibly

[mighty egret]

do you have a soundtest for raw he + zinc alloy without the tape mod?

[wraith widget]

They learned everything from making Wooting switches.... didn't make them good enough for Wooting, decided to make their own which are way better then get dropped by Wooting because I assume they don't want to make them too good 😂

[stone flax]

Who?

ur not talking about gateron right

[wraith widget]

Gateron

[glacial wind]

it's just order timings. A lot of shops carry geons stuff (raptors for example are insanely widely available but it takes time for them to order and stock it)

[stone flax]

lol

[remote cairn]

Bruh

[stone flax]

gaterons relationship with wooting is not at all like that

[glacial wind]

raw he are still very new so most shops haven't done the first order yet

[wraith widget]

F

[wraith widget]

Idk I'm just guessing Seems like a nice business plan though, make standard switches for the keyboard then make better ones to earn more money

[remote cairn]

They don’t want my money ig

[wraith widget]

Seems like Gateron are definitely into milking Jades

[glacial wind]

i think it's more that gateron doesn't give any info and randomly changes things/launches things without letting them know

[wraith widget]

They're clearly too popular, site is broken because of all the sales

[exotic inlet]

You can always change the springs later on

[stone flax]

@wraith widget exactly this

[glacial wind]

like for example if they let wooting know about jades originally then wooting could have just had them be a thing long ago as stock. And now they launch jade pro again with the same zero information to their partner

[stone flax]

gateron changed a big part of what they sent to wooting without communication and wooting had to deal with the frustration with fixing their mistake

[remote cairn]

Too annoying

[exotic inlet]

it must be tbh

[wraith widget]

I mean it's essentially what I said though... they make sub-par switches for the keyboard itself and sell better ones to make even more money, then get dropped because Wooting want better switches 😂

Just a different way of getting to the same point

[glacial wind]

well they just make switches

[wraith widget]

Yeah fair, maybe the complete design came from Wooting not them, idk

[glacial wind]

which is the problem. They make switches and don't care about actually informing their partners about it, when they'd probably make more money if they let wooting know ahead of time so they could launch it with them

[hard flower]

Is it worth switching to Raws if I just installed Jades?

[wraith widget]

Point is the looked at what they made for Wooting, made it a lot better and started milking it 😂

[wraith widget]

Probably not

[glacial wind]

personal preference. You'd be upgrading more for the small wobble improvement than anything else

[hard flower]

I could technically return them, I've only had them a week

But is the wobble improvements that noticeable? How's the shorter travel with the Raws?

[wraith widget]

There's only a 0.1mm difference in travel distance so I don't think it matters

[glacial wind]

it's noticable, but not as gigantic a jump as going from say lekker v1 to jades

[wraith widget]

Considering they are releasing newer jades though returning could be a good idea if it doesn't cost much

Or have released

[hard flower]

The newer Jades would be much more expensive, I got a good deal on Ali for the original before the announcement

But the discount code for Raws is appealing. I need to grab some switches for the 80HE regardless

[wraith widget]

Well at least you'll have peace of mind that you've tried both

[remote cairn]

New jades have yet to be released? Do we have any infos?

[hard flower]

True but if I prefer them I'll have to pay double for shipping to get more

[wraith widget]

They are on pre-order I believe

[glacial wind]

realistically just buy raw he and be done with it for your 80he, unless you just really want to try out the jade pros for fun

[wraith widget]

I'm just going with raws and will revisit new switches in a couple years probably, not going to just keep going for the "best" switch every month 😅

[loud gull]

With and without tape mod video will be online early next week

[remote cairn]

Do you have a link please?

[mighty egret]

cool

[wraith widget]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-jade-max-switch-set?srsltid=AfmBOoq1Iz815t-HfeBrZ-feUH7ZkzUbxjTSg2frOZ_v0tLn_OvwPNlI&VariantsId=10856

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-jade-pro-switch-set?srsltid=AfmBOopeVyod6oGrSBjkVASRrWo1jusjgPSx20oQIQtkFCYt9th3mGQJ&VariantsId=10854

[velvet egret]

oh fancy.. what's so different about this pro/max?

[wraith widget]

extra camera

I mean... idk

[glacial wind]

rgb for one and slightly tweaked tolerances for pro

[wraith widget]

"better" and more expensive

HiFi sound 👀

[hard flower]

Oh, I'm definitely getting at least 90 just deciding if I want to swap the other boards at the same time

[remote cairn]

Didn’t know sound wasn’t HiFi irl

[modern sequoia]

are latenpow deng gods n pole ?

[stone flax]

they have

lol

pros and maxes

[stone flax]

yes

[exotic inlet]

After those it will come Jade MaxPro

[broken cape]

it's "Pro Max", if we wanna copy smartphone naming xD

[stone elbow]

Wonder what rgb looks like with the max one

[modern sequoia]

hmmm I wonder why they went with n pole

[glacial wind]

this is some "we have pbtfans xray at home" energy

[solar tundra]

u guys usin the stock stabilizer or did u buy other ones?

[fresh citrus]

have you seen a video of how they look with rgb?

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

Stock. Guaranteed compatibility.

[hard flower]

Anybody have a recommendation for stablizer lube I can buy on Amazon?

[modern sequoia]

is this SA profile?

[glacial wind]

i haven't really looked. I don't care about rgb min maxing personally

[fresh citrus]

thats fair i do enjoy me some rgb tho

ive seen that most people arent super into rgb

[glacial wind]

wooting already gets crazy bright, i can't see why anyone would want more brighter

[fresh citrus]

and there arent that many keycaps that go well with rgb apart from like ceramics lol

im using ducky puddings

and they're okay

but some of the legends have like black spots and its annoying

wish i could return them lol

[glacial wind]

yeah rgb isn't that popular in custom keyboards so not many get made with rgb in mind

most folks just keep it off

[fresh citrus]

yeah i've been seeing that haha

yeah

[alpine patrol]

What stabilizers are good for wooting 60he gateron jade switches ?

[fresh citrus]

i heard that cerakeys are a bit too heavy for 50g switches tho which is a bit annoying

[glacial wind]

the ones that come with your wooting

[alpine patrol]

But stabilizers with wooting has 4.0 mm but gateron have 3.5 pre travel

[glacial wind]

yeah but only cheap keycaps ever rarely run into any keycap tilting issues

are you running into this issue?

[alpine patrol]

I have this issue because i change keycaps , switch , case and i propably buy cheap keycaps

[glacial wind]

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-stem-spacer get these

[languid kestrel]

just stick a piece of paper in there or something to make them sit tighter

it's free and easy

[grim urchin]

Hey guys, I just order a new gateron lekker L60 V2, and I’m wonder is that already pre-lubed from factory?, or do I need to lubed everything again ?

[austere creek]

all our lekker switches come prelubed

no matter which version

[grim urchin]

Nice, thanks

[untold wigeon]

Anyone know how to open magnetic jade switches without a switch opener??

[loud gull]

If it is just a few, you could try wiggling a flathead screwdriver under the latches or however you call them. Where normally the switch openering prongs would be positioned.

If you do a full keyboard, I will say... enjoy the pain. 😛

[untold wigeon]

I just got started 😭😭😭😭

[loud gull]

Please just get a switch opener. Full keyboard is just not do-able without it lol

If you gonna lube switches, you'd be alone be busy for several hours. Without a switch opener probably a whole day

[untold wigeon]

😭I’ve done it before I’ll push through it again

[loud gull]

My god

[untold wigeon]

But I have a question

Is the lube process the same

For these magnetic switches

[loud gull]

Yeah pretty much

[untold wigeon]

I see and is there any fangs to clip off? I don’t see any

[loud gull]

The transparant long thingys on the side

But just get a switch opener man, how much do you hate yourself? 😭

You can get them for like 2-3 buckeronis on amazon probably

[untold wigeon]

I’ve been ordering things bcs I’ve been missing stuff for the keyboard finally it all came 😭 I have no more patience

I’ll get my brother to help me don’t worry boss!

[loud gull]

Poor brother 😛

Good luck ma man!

[untold wigeon]

Is the fang on here sander

Or am I looking wrong

[prime orbit]

My case is out for delivery!! Let’s gooo

[untold wigeon]

Www

[prime orbit]

I can finish my keyboard now 😭😭

[untold wigeon]

😭I feel your pain I’ve been sat here waiting for my jade switches they finally came

[prime orbit]

Www

How are they?

I went for Black Knights

[loud gull]

You don't need to clip off anything

[untold wigeon]

Oh okay great,

[loud gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

[untold wigeon]

Nice I heard they’re really good! I’m from the uk so it’s like a hard to get a hold of some switches. The jades are really promising factory lubes ones sound amazing but I’m going to lube them myself

[untold wigeon]

Currently have this on right now 😂 thank you I appreciate the help

[prime orbit]

Oooo I could never 😭😭

Would def mess something up

[untold wigeon]

@loud gull 1/60 done 😂😭😭😭 but I’ve got it down now

[untold wigeon]

It’s not hard once you watch a tutorial! Just listen very carefully haha I’ll show you guys a sound test once done

[glacial wind]

Dear lord get a switch opener. Your hands are going to hate you doing 60 switches with a screwdriver

[loud gull]

Bro that was like 20 minutes 😂

20 hours ez

[proper plume]

My hands hated me even after removing the switches from the plate haha forget taking apart switches with a screwdriver

[untold wigeon]

Yes my hands being stabbed with this sharp tweezer but through dedication I’ll hold my wooting with much more respect 😂😂😂

Or maybe I’ll give up half way and decide to get that switch opener

[loud gull]

Or just give up now and wait a day 😛

Pleaseee

You're even torturing me here by knowing this

[glacial wind]

I’m one of the few who doesn’t mind lubing switches for hours, but even I would not do a full keyboard using a screwdriver as my opener

[proper plume]

I didn’t bother lubing my jades too much effort for me

[cedar gate]

Loved your new vid

[glacial wind]

I fixed up the lube on both my jades and raw he and prepared an entire extra set of raw he for the 80he too

they’re all waiting in a nice box for the 80he

[loud gull]

Appreciate it! 😄

[proper plume]

Fairs I think mine feel fine and I don’t really think I could tell the difference if I lubed them myself I play cs with noise cancelling headphones on anyways haha so couldn’t tell the difference if it’s just a sound thing

[glacial wind]

I almost want to do my stabs ready too but it’s a bit inconvenient storing them assembled

Hrm maybe I can assemble and lube them and put it in a tupperware

[neat thorn]

i'm happy with the wooting 60he but i feel it could be better with different switches, can somone helps me find the best compatible switch for a replacement ?
i can "complain" about 2 things with the switch i use (L45 V2) the wobble is noticeable and the feeling when pressing keys all the way down the metal hits the plate...

Also 30g should be better imo

[loud gull]

Geon RAW HE is the meta now 😛

Lowest they have is 40gr tho

[neat thorn]

https://www.hlplanet.com/wooting-compability-guide/
is this page accurate ?

[loud gull]

Not really

Thockfather has a list of switches with notes if they are compatible in the #🪛│modding_faq channel

[neat thorn]

Geon RAW HE is compatible and has less wobbles ?

[glacial wind]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch use coupon code woot

Yes it’s one of the tightest stock stem switches right now

[neat thorn]

Thx very much

[cedar gate]

The #🪛│modding_faq is awesome it will tell you everything compatible

[loud gull]

Geon RAW HE have almost no wobble at all. Much better tbh then our Lekker V2's

[neat thorn]

can i send back the current switches i got from wooting, it's been only 5days i am using it.

[neat thorn]

Ordering them rn 🙂

[cedar gate]

I can say that you can't 🤣

Jkjk lekker is also a great switch

But RAWs are very clean sounding and feeling I like that

[loud gull]

Feels kinda wrong sometimes to vouch for the RAW HE's, since we don't even sell em, lol. But it is what it is. 😛

[cedar gate]

Partner up? Seems like a good idea

[loud gull]

Believe we will discuss some things yeah

[glacial wind]

I was once asked “how many people have you helped onto the path of geon raw he?”

I answered “51”

Shocked, they asked “that many?”

“That is the number of poor souls who i failed to bring onto the geon raw he path in time”

[loud gull]

We won't be able to sell them immediately, that will still take a bit probably. But who knows.

[neat thorn]

@glacial wind this is the GEON Raw HE Switch? the metal doesn't hit the plate when pressed all the way down?

[teal geode]

best 60 he case for under $250
best 60 he case for under $200
and best 60 he case for under $150

[glacial wind]

Nope, it has a ring around blocking the hole so the magnet shows through but it hits the plastic ring instead

Basically works like a closed bottom switch but has a small hole for the magnet to not be blocked

[neat thorn]

ok, that's good to know, i'm done. hope they send it to france 🙂

[loud gull]

They send from Korea. So shipping costs are like €22 I believe.

Wonder though if people buy from the store they still get hit with the taxes and duties? I got free samples and had to pay 27 euro for that.

[neat thorn]

Code woot, make them so cheap ! this is suspicious lol

[glacial wind]

probably depends on region. Aus and Korea both have import minimum so switches by themselves never reach the price needed to be taxed

[untold wigeon]

6/70 hand status scarred

[neat thorn]

Shipping method costs the price of 50 switches

[glacial wind]

Yeah that’s why geon gave the code lol

[neat thorn]

ahah

[glacial wind]

Brings shipping down to like 12-13 which is more easy to swallow

[fluid ravine]

Chat my KeebMat delivered 😭
But I'm gonna be home from school in 7 hrs

[glacial wind]

Keebmat is great. I have two

[cedar gate]

Is that a monolog

[glacial wind]

Just a daily blessing of scripture towards the faithful

[cedar gate]

All tofu60 redux imo

[glacial wind]

you don’t become the pope of multiple 80he churches without regular scriptures

[cedar gate]

If you want bounce maybe salvation

[fluid ravine]

Excited on how it will look

[cedar gate]

It's really a preference thing

[devout pewter]

my apex pro mini recently broke so i am forced to use 6 years old membrane keyboard. Can you guys recommend some great keyboards? Budget is around 200-250€

[glacial wind]

I mean… this is the wooting server

[devout pewter]

can i build a great wooting within that price range?

[untold wigeon]

60he+ is $180 it’s a good start.

Module 140, Raws 40 ish, generic caps 30, generic case 40 that’s $250

[cedar gate]

Oh yeah fr sure

[cedar gate]

Mind if I dm

[glacial wind]

Even just a stock 60he+ with some raw he switches will work well

[untold wigeon]

Are you asking if you can DM yourself? lol

[cedar gate]

Yep

It would be rude to dm myself without my permission

[untold wigeon]

What did you say to yourself?

[cedar gate]

Mind if I dm you a parts list

[polar girder]

It’s right here lol

[untold wigeon]

Ty @polar girder

[paper bloom]

@devout pewter wooting

Module with a gh60 and l45s shld fit ur bill

N some cheap ass keycaps or a good one shld fetch u about a totalnof 250 euros

[cedar gate]

Huh didn't see that

[paper bloom]

Gh60s are like wat 30 euros and if u get RAW he's esp 50 grams shld be 60 euros and a 180 which is the module

[untold wigeon]

Module 140

[devout pewter]

thank you guys for help

[paper bloom]

209 for me cuz of the shipping

[devout pewter]

i dont mind

thank you

[paper bloom]

@untold wigeon he cld get a cheaper plastic gh60 case

And use the foam in the module

Shld cook

[cedar gate]

Yeah I would go module 140+ RAWs 35 + stock keycaps 20 + redux case

[untold wigeon]

Yeah that’ll be totally fine

[cedar gate]

It might push your budget by a few bucks tho

[paper bloom]

So

If u want cheaper

@devout pewter plastic gh60 RAW HE any grams, any keycaps

Cld run u 208

Euros

40ish cheaper

[untold wigeon]

You can get an aluminum gh60 case for around 40

[paper bloom]

^^

Unless ur a fanatic like us get a tofu or what frijoles did

[devout pewter]

didnt expect so much help

[paper bloom]

Get a gh60 with a brass attached to it and get it engraved

LOOOL

[cedar gate]

It says 80 tho

[paper bloom]

Once i get my optimum case

I am def fucking laser engraving that bitch

[cedar gate]

Markup?

[paper bloom]

With my name

@cedar gate aliexpress is 40 euros

[cedar gate]

Laser knife?

Light saber

[paper bloom]

There edited

[untold wigeon]

$43.50

YMDK GH60 Anodizing Aluminum CNC Case for 60% Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Compatible Poker2 Pok3r Faceu 60 with ALU Feet (Blue) https://a.co/d/6KRjT0d

[paper bloom]

Back to bring nerfed SNAPPY RAPPY

Being*

[untold wigeon]

It wouldn’t be the one I have. Just a basic aluminum one

[paper bloom]

@untold wigeon the fact that i paid 24 USD for my raw HEs

Is kinda fucking absurd esp during the sale

[untold wigeon]

That’s what I paid for mine

[paper bloom]

Orig it was like 35 USD

For me

Or 40ish

[celest parrot]

Please Sander can you try the Jade pro& Max

[untold wigeon]

Still not bad

[paper bloom]

Since im paying 50 SGD

Orig price if i didnt have the sale

[paper bloom]

He will try it later on chill

[remote cairn]

I’ve ordered my raw HE and I’m not gonna cancel jades, idk why

[untold wigeon]

I have both. Sell on the jades. You won’t use them again. lol

[remote cairn]

I wanna keep my L45s tho

[celest parrot]

I'm chilling wdym

[untold wigeon]

You can always buy a module and have 2 keebs

[remote cairn]

I have the module already

[untold wigeon]

A second one. lol.

[remote cairn]

The 80HE module (I don't have it rn but it's the one I bought)

Nah

[paper bloom]

Good man

[remote cairn]

I was thinking that Jades are worth it because you get the L45s with it which makes the switches less pricey

[cedar gate]

It's surprising how many people have the og tofu case (GH60)

I have the redux I think it's better

I like the high angle it's better for big hands

[untold wigeon]

Too many people have them. That’s all people bought in the beginning

[remote cairn]

@untold wigeon what do you think?

[untold wigeon]

You only need 1 set of switches. Try both sell on the ones you like less and use that money for more mods.

[remote cairn]

Because if I get my jades refunded I get 75€ back, I could use that money for mods but I probably won't mod it

[untold wigeon]

Keycaps will more than likely be something you get eventually when shine sets in. Use it towards that.

[remote cairn]

I've got x-ray keycaps, so I won't really see when they shine

My set

[untold wigeon]

lol no doubt. I have a similar set but I can’t type by memory so it was endlessly frustrating

[remote cairn]

You'll get it eventually

[untold wigeon]

You can’t teach an old dog new tricks

[green pebble]

Just got my raw HEs in. They definitely do feel like an upgraded Jade. There is so little stem wobble on these it's kinda crazy.

[untold wigeon]

Yup they are probably the best available as of now.

[glacial wind]

Another saved soul on the path to raw he enlightenment

[remote cairn]

I need to compare them to my mx red switches that I've had forever

[exotic inlet]

I guess Geon is going to have plenty of orders to take care of lol

[untold wigeon]

@loud gull

[loud gull]

Will do. Still gotta get them, but will test them later. 🙂

[loud gull]

Absolute madlad

[untold wigeon]

My hands I agree it’s not worth the trade but I’m very very very impatient and switch opener is $12 from where I’m from😭

[green pebble]

imo the typing feel is most similar to a traditional mechanical mx switch, the sound is too. It doesn't have that hollow upstroke sound that most HE switches have. I'm satisfied with them.

[stone flax]

because its really just a recolor of sticky rices

but cheappahhh

[green pebble]

I had to pay 20 CAD in duties and taxes when I got mine yesterday just as an FYI to all Canadian customers.

[keen urchin]

can you show connected state?

[remote cairn]

Wdym?

[keen urchin]

uh
like with rgb and stuff

[rocky folio]

Just got my tofu 60 redux, should i use the tofu's foam or the wooting one ?

[wraith widget]

Try out 1 then try out the other 🙂

Then try out both and none

Modding all about trial and error until you find what is best for you

[green pebble]

Direct from GEON

[rocky folio]

True thx xd

[polar girder]

This

Always and forever, this

[fresh citrus]

how do they look with rgb on?

have u tried it before

[marble island]

somebody knows good diy mods for creamy/poppy sound?

[remote cairn]

No, they don’t fit on my low profile keyboard

[fresh citrus]

ah

[untold wigeon]

@loud gull can I use electrical tape for tape mod?

Or anyone know?

<@&490097707487330305>

[stray tiger]

No. Use masking or painters tape

[stone elbow]

Electrical tape is too strong, it would rip off parts of the pcba

[cedar gate]

Nope

Also you probably shouldn't ping the owners

But I would use any paper back tape

[untold wigeon]

Oh

I’m js gon wait for masking tape

Btw the foam the keyboard comes with is it dumb if I put the foam I ordered over it or will that be too much foam

[delicate crest]

Question for you guys: is there a link to the compatible switch list that is searchable and sortable ?

[cyan zodiac]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[untold wigeon]

^

[delicate crest]

thank you for the link

[cold bloom]

we get slammed with duties in Canada for anything over like 50$ CAD iirc

[strange bloom]

black knights switches already installed, way better typing experience, thanks to everybody here who helped me decide

[cold bloom]

something really low

[green pebble]

That's wild, the duties were basically 30% of the price of the product I paid for.

[cold bloom]

yeah that's the other issue, they never just charge the duties which should just be your local provincial tax rate on the price, they charge a brokering fee for bringing it across the border

it's a complete scam

sometimes my UPS will be like 19$ duties 40$ brokerage fee

There's a way you can clear it yourself at the border but you have to fill in a form, I don't think you have to physically go to the airport or w/e anymore but you can google it I've never really tried it

But UPS will legit send a collections agency to you over like 30-40$, they're ruthless with it even tho you couldn't pay online to them forever

hmm, probably lekker v2?

black knights?

shit sorry they are

3.6

you shouldn't have to swap stabs

I didn't swap mine with jades or Raws

ohh right I remember you saying that, there's a few fixes that might be easier than swapping stabs tho

you can try a small oring over the top of the stab stems to make them sit more flush

or a piece of saran wrap

on the stem can make it fit a bit tighter

what 60he do you have?

does it have plate mount or pcb mount?

okay

does it have plate mount?

like was it the pre built

send a photo I can help if you want

plate mount are easier to swap

you basically wanna remove the keycaps for any stab keys, take the switch out with a switch puller, and then use a small screwdriver or something to pop them out

I'll make a quick video

and yes the prebuilt should be plate mount

if you check your stabs they should be clicked into the plate not just sticking up through it

yes

just the ones for the stabs

[fluid ravine]

Why do I get notifications of WootHelp

[cold bloom]

pretty easy, they should be pre lubed, you shouldn't have any issues with the stock stabs with long poles as most don't, but if your keycaps are sitting a bit loose I'd try an oring on the top of the 2 stab stems for each stab that is loose if you don't already have long pole stems or stabs

if you have long pole stabs already you can just remove the original ones like I showed there, lube the inside of the stab housing and outside of the stem very lightly, dip the end of the wire in dielectric grease is usually the go to but lmk what stabs you have, and assemble them and then put them back in like I showed at the end

there's many videos on how to lube stabs on youtube

[untold wigeon]

@loud gull done!

Although space bar is slacking

Still waiting on my tape

[teal geode]

Is burger mount worth doing?

On 60he

[cold bloom]

I saw in Geon's recent stream that he used some 205 on the edge of the oring he used to mount the venom 60HE, thought it was a good idea so I tried it out on my wooting/tofu, I think it helps the bottom right sit a lot better noticeably

wooting 60HE, tofu og, oring friction mounted, stupidfish case foam, poron plate foam, pbtfans vior/blue hangul alphas, kbdfans fr4 plate.

I'm torn as to whether I want to get a leggera T for my wooting, or a venom 60HE and the G oring mount case

[loud gull]

Damn, good job. Glad you did it in the end? 😄

[untold wigeon]

ah yea after so mujch pain it was worth it

[neon harbor]

anyone know where one could get a really fucking large mousemat/deskmat? I'm talking [1600mm x 800mm] (rocking an ikea Idasen desk)

[jade storm]

What for?

[tawdry tree]

Mainly price. The Jade Pros supposedly have tighter tolerances and the Jade Maxes have dual rails and a PC stem.

[shy musk]

anyone know if the raw he's or the jade max's sound better?

[calm pulsar]

geon raws

[tawdry tree]

Jade Maxes are different but there isn’t much info available on them yet.

PC on PC is kinda scary though

No, I wouldn’t buy Pros at all. Raw HEs have them beat in every way. Jade Maxes are different but I can’t recommend them.

Because different people like different weights.

[calm pulsar]

just different strength springs

[tawdry tree]

Tolerances mainly

Oh and well, compared to the Jade Pros, Raw HEs are better for RGB if you care about it.

😂

Jade Pros have a colored top housing which affects RGB, very slightly but still. Raw HEs have a diffuser.

That isn’t colored.

[old swallow]

oh yeah, i ordered the raws, and now i will have clear RGB again, the jades was colouring my white light into a slightly green light

[neon harbor]

for my desk...?

geon raws

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, regular Jades have a clear top housing. Was it because the light reflected against the blueishgreen bottom housing of the Jades?

[old swallow]

yeah, its not too much, but ever so slightly

[teal geode]

Should I tape mod my wooting 60he

[old swallow]

but i only use AOE RGB effect, so it didnt bother me much, and only white on one side of the board

[neon harbor]

you need nothing

just geon raws

[jade storm]

What about a mousepad?

[neon harbor]

i got the rawhe 60s

[uneven cradle]

Depends, if your 60he is already filled with foam I don't think it does much

[neon harbor]

are you trolling?

[tawdry tree]

Depends which keycaps you’re using/gonna use.

[jade storm]

I'm asking a genuine fucking question.

Now answer me

[neon harbor]

read again pls

[jade storm]

There's nothing to read

Why aren't you getting a mousepad?

[teal geode]

How should I mount the pcb in my redux?

[tawdry tree]

Raw HEs have the same travel as Jades, so yes.

[tawdry tree]

Did you move the USB port hole of the redux to “W”?

[old swallow]

im on jades, and i cant even tell that the stabs are wobbly, but on a different board i had used switches with 3.4 ish travel and i noticed it there a lot

so i think it does kinda depends on stabs/caps mostly

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, most sets and stabs are fine and won’t have this issue.

[tawdry tree]

Whattt 😭😭

[old swallow]

sander sander, youre supposed to promote the lekkers, not shame them haha

[tawdry tree]

If Lekker V2s are just the stock Lekker clones with Woot’s logo I swear!!!!!!!

[teal geode]

Yea why?

[tawdry tree]

Then you can mount it however you like.

What did you mean?

[teal geode]

Like burger or friction etc

[tawdry tree]

Oh, friction is the most consistent

You will need an O-Ring for that though

[teal geode]

What is friction mod tho

Is it the big o ring around the entire pcb

[tawdry tree]

A big O-Ring around the Module that squeezes into the case.

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[teal geode]

Do u screw it in aswell?

[tawdry tree]

Nope.

[teal geode]

Where can I get this o ring

[tawdry tree]

Frictions holds it in, even if you hold it upside down (don’t try this).

[tawdry tree]

Where are you from?

[teal geode]

Uk

[tawdry tree]

https://prototypist.net/products/in-stock-o-rings-gummy-mount

There was another UK vendor I believe but I don’t remember the name.

[elfin garnet]

https://www.mechmods.co.uk/products/tofu-60-gasket-mount-o-ring?_pos=4&_sid=21b3df1ac&_ss=r

maybe - but sold out

[tawdry tree]

Probably yeah.

[tawdry tree]

This one is a bit softer though, which is preferable.

[stone flax]

geon raw he

bottom out weight

better tolerances and better lube job

depends on keycaps, get the spring weight u want

seesawing because of keycap tolerance with stab stem

Yes it will happen with the raws

but jades should come with long pole stab stems

depends where u get them ig

[tranquil stag]

Do you guys think it's possible to achieve a anodized aluminium finish (apple style) on any of the zinc case variants with the 80HE?

[stone flax]

fake sander

[tranquil stag]

My bad I'll change my birth name

🤐

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights are 4.0mm travel switches 😭😭 @viscid tusk

[old swallow]

[teal geode]

Ty

[tranquil stag]

So uhhhh, anyone? :p

[stone flax]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-and-goma-gif-9872673187939618574

[tawdry tree]

I’m not sure if anodizing zinc and alu have the exact same effect but cerakote would work great.

[tawdry tree]

“username not available” update whennn??

😂😂

[tranquil stag]

Do you have experience with this?

[elfin garnet]

If you were to get a Frog Mini custom painted. What kind of coating would you do?

[tranquil stag]

& I'm affraid any kind of coating would potentially cause issues with the fit of the pcb etc

[tawdry tree]

I don’t but Wooting showed the Zinc cerakoted and it looked great

[tawdry tree]

Depends what you’re going for. I read about cerakoting and it looks really good.

and is more durable than paint

[teal geode]

Would it be worth upgrading the tofu redux or is it not worth it

[stone flax]

fruitless question

no ones gonna tell you if youre going to find it worth it

[untold wigeon]

Zinc can be anodized so probably

[tawdry tree]

I’m not sure what you mean? How would you upgrade the tofu?

The brass weight you mean?

[elfin garnet]

Alright. That's what I've heard as well.

[tawdry tree]

This is the cerakoted 80HE

It can be any color of course

[elfin garnet]

Yeah that looks really good

[tawdry tree]

but that’s the finish

[teal geode]

I mean like upgrade to a better case like the frog mini

[uneven cradle]

From what I hear anodizing zinc is a bit of a pain and not a lot of factories do it

[stone flax]

are u currently on the tofu?

[teal geode]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

For a frog mini you need a custom switch plate as well. I would definitely call it an upgrade but if it’s worth it to you I can’t answer.

[stone flax]

Do you not like it

[stone flax]

its so good

😭

would want to try a salvation one day

[elfin garnet]

that's why I got another one lol

[tawdry tree]

Price points are quite different as well

[tawdry tree]

Good one too

[stone flax]

the 461e allows u to “gasket” mount a 60he right

[tranquil stag]

Is there a video on the process? or just the end result

[teal geode]

I mean it’s a bit boring
Other than that I don’t know how it feels or sounds with good switches and friction mount
Ima get some raw he’s and friction mount it

[tawdry tree]

You can probably find a video about the process of cerakoting but not specifically for the 80HE.

[stone flax]

so do that

[tawdry tree]

It’s not something you’d do yourself though.

[teal geode]

What difference does the frog mini make to the sound and feel compared to the tofu redux?

Last question for today lol

[west finch]

Does anyone know if the Wooting 60 works with Durock V3 Screw-in Stabilizers

[stone flax]

i run my frog standoffless so it’d prolly feel more uniform than a tray mount

less stiff

has good bounce

sound wise its pretty high pitched in conjunction with just the silicone

[calm pulsar]

you run it how???

[tranquil stag]

Do you know which person specifically did it so I can contact them? I am just curious if they covered any parts with tape to not coat them etc

[stone flax]

You heard me

[tawdry tree]

Durock V3s are too wide for Wooting’s plate, so no. The SW Knight V2 stabilizers do though.

[stone flax]

I gotta put em back in tho

i cant game on low ap

😖

but feels so much better

[calm pulsar]

love the backspace lol

[west finch]

And they are screw in? Do you use them? I assume better than the stock stabs

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

Search for cerakote near me or something along those lines. You’ll find a business that does it and you can ask for a quote.

[tawdry tree]

Yes they are screw in and they’re great.

[west finch]

pressing spacebar while typing with your index finger was triggering me

[stone flax]

goat behavior

[tawdry tree]

How tf do so many people hit space with their index

[west finch]

Do you have a link for them in the US or do I have to ship them from ASIA

[uneven cradle]

Poor thumbs just sitting there doing nothing

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know which US vendor has them

You shouldn’t have to order from Asia