🔧│keyboard_modding

[neon tiger]

CHILL CHILL

[ocean widget]

Im using this daily and i love it lol

[neon tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-jokes-laugh-very-funny-jokes-gif-8006636675585716814

[neon tiger]

crinacle da GOAT

been watching his videos on repeat

before i made my purchase

[drifting bronze]

But do I need to upgrade my interface soon then?

[neon tiger]

does it help with valorant alot

oh shit fleimi typing for very long

[ionic breach]

ive heard great things abtthis

[neon tiger]

[languid kestrel]

since you're desperately looking for an excuse to spend more money;

go buy a separate dac and amp for your headphones and leave the u-phoria for your mic

[ocean widget]

I wouldn’t say a lot but more then the random teammates without sounds 💀

[neon tiger]

KEK W MY FRIEND

KEK

what elo

[ocean widget]

Im mostly playing swift play

[neon tiger]

thats a good game mode

[ocean widget]

I mean I mostly play for fun i dont care about ranked too much sweaty ppl

[neon tiger]

u are not wrong man

so annoying.....

[drifting bronze]

@broken cape i can only find the 770 in 250ohm and the 990 in 80 tho

[languid kestrel]

then get the 250ohm 770

[broken cape]

or check another store

i know it exists, a friend of mine owns one

[neon tiger]

i like how he tags kai

not flemi

[broken cape]

fleimi probably feels like thin air at this point

[neon tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[broken cape]

although she is the voice of reason

[neon tiger]

IMMA TRIGGER SOME PPL WITH THIS

BUT YO GUYS

SM7B OR SM7DB

SM7DB HAS A BUILT IN PREAMP !!!

[broken cape]

no plsss

we had this yesterday

[neon tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-finger-wag-lol-gif-15315345399817626142

still didnt get my definite 100% answer tho

[ocean widget]

Oh true i need a new mic as well lul

[neon tiger]

SEE SEE

GOOD QUESTION RIGHT ?

[broken cape]

I've got a terrible migraine today and this is not helping :p

[neon tiger]

man get well soon my brotha

[ocean widget]

Whats a good cardoid mic other then the sure sm7b

[elfin garnet]

I gave up. It's a slippery slope

[broken cape]

speaking about akko, i did get an order confirmation for some v3 matcha green pros :)

hoping the factory lube is good enough tbh

[ocean widget]

My name

Fun fact i never heard about them

I got the news 2 years ago lol

[languid kestrel]

[flat cobalt]

I just throw them a video

[quiet bay]

hi guys

First day of school

[old swallow]

👋

[fluid ravine]

(∩ᐛ )⊃━☆ﾟᴳᴸ

Abt to wash my hair

[flat cobalt]

Good luck and have fun!

[fluid ravine]

Shit not gunna be fun.

[flat cobalt]

Lol try to make the best of it.

[fluid ravine]

[flat cobalt]

[fluid ravine]

I'm already sad just abt thinking of what's gonna happan during the day

[paper bloom]

Just take it sllw

Slow*

If it was me i wouldnt recommend worrying just let things be

[old swallow]

you gonna get shoved in lockers?

[paper bloom]

No way ppl still using that shit LOL

[old swallow]

idk lol

[paper bloom]

And na no way there wld be bullying anymore

Only thing is probs cyberbully

If he gets bullied IRL shit will go down

Quick

[old swallow]

getting cyberbullied, use this one simple trick: turn off screen

[paper bloom]

Na just blick

Block*

E z

[drifting bronze]

@languid kestrel

wich of those has best sound

there both 80 ohm

and i hope my uphoria um2 CAN HANDLE that

so idk

32 is low and 250 high

[paper bloom]

@drifting bronze depends on u

Wod u want a close or open ?

[ionic breach]

check the graph

[paper bloom]

If u want close get the 770

Open wld be the 990 or get a sennheiser one

[drifting bronze]

tbh i dont know whats the difference in sound

[paper bloom]

Closed is basically

[old swallow]

bol bol bol bol.com

[broken cape]

you dont want to hear your little brother, so get the closed one!

[paper bloom]

Plug ur ears n say something

Open is basically ur ears rn

For the leaks ig

[drifting bronze]

yea but also i have my window open 9 times out of 10 and my neighbours are always working in the garden so

yea

[dapper hazel]

it’s actually air express and then locally express as well ;)

[drifting bronze]

for talking i like open of course but i dont want to hear shit in my house or neighbours so i think i need closed then

[drifting bronze]

àyup

[dapper hazel]

get 100% size :P

[fluid ravine]

HAHA I'm way to huge for lockers

And no we don't use lockers no mo

[old swallow]

woah, big man over here

[old swallow]

nah haha, we dont either

[flat cobalt]

Destroy everyone with your switch knowledge

[fluid ravine]

Where do y'all ship from btw?

[dapper hazel]

depends where you are

[fluid ravine]

Mue hehehehe

[dapper hazel]

but it defaults back to the main warehouse in shenzhen

[old swallow]

"give me your lunch money!!"

have you heard about what hall effect switches?

[fluid ravine]

Houston Tx

[dapper hazel]

so US or shenzhen

[fluid ravine]

[paper bloom]

Ye

[dapper hazel]

depends on what’s in the order and if it’s avail locally

[fluid ravine]

👍

[drifting bronze]

Isn't also the closed one more bass

[drifting bronze]

What do you use?

But also ive heard that open has better sound and is easier to eq

[old swallow]

i think usually open backs have nicer sound stage, but not great if you have noisy enviroment

[drifting bronze]

In general its pretty quiet like i have my brother comming in my room but if i tell him to be les s noisy it is not a problem but the main thing why i wanted the 770 is because the sound leekage

But I just don't want any white noice

[paper bloom]

iems i run the crinacle truthear reds for headphones i run the newer driver wireless headphones from logitech

[drifting bronze]

In general its pretty quiet like i have my brother comming in my room but if i tell him to be les s noisy it is not a problem but the main thing why i wanted the 770 is because the sound leekage But I just don't want any white noice

[crimson sky]

[drifting bronze]

?

[crimson sky]

don't get beyerdynamics

unless you want beyersremorse

[languid kestrel]

no such thing as "best" but DT770 definitely a safer recommendation

[crimson sky]

inclined to agree

but also

no easily replaceable cable

stock one is just stupidly long

known common failure points

[drifting bronze]

No white noise right?

[languid kestrel]

i don't know what you mean by that

[neon tiger]

GOOD LUCK

[crimson sky]

that doesn't come down to the headphones

[drifting bronze]

Like when there is nothing on like a peep or shit

[crimson sky]

they are gonna output as much whitenoise as you feed into them

[drifting bronze]

Huh?

[languid kestrel]

uhh yeah that's not really a thing

[crimson sky]

where would the whitenoise they output come from

[languid kestrel]

noise is generated by your source

[crimson sky]

only souce would be your dac/amp that you plug them into

[languid kestrel]

and everything in the chain

[crimson sky]

but then it doesn't depend which headphones you use, you will always have that whitenoise

[drifting bronze]

Yeah but one last time you're sure the 80 ohm one will work great with my uphoria um2

[languid kestrel]

my answer is not changing

[crimson sky]

btw, difference between the different ohm versions for these is just output level

the 250ohm one sounds exactly the same, it just is quieter

and the 32ohm one just is louder

I would really recommend you to just at least pick up a cheap cx31993 dongle or something along it

[drifting bronze]

So basically 80ohm is middle ground

[crimson sky]

which will give you much better audio quality for your headphones

[flat cobalt]

[crimson sky]

fellow enjoyer

[drifting bronze]

Nah seriously?

[crimson sky]

yes

the headphone output on the uphoria m2 is mainly for monitoring the input

not for being a decent output in general

[languid kestrel]

dongles are cheap at any rate so you don't lose much i suppose

[neon tiger]

dayum

[drifting bronze]

If I look up that do gle I get a wireless reciever

[neon tiger]

this audio talk

[crimson sky]

yea they are 10-20 bucks

[neon tiger]

interesting as hell but i dont understand shit

[crimson sky]

should look something like this

[neon tiger]

just want a good pair of head sets for FPS gaming LOL

[crimson sky]

if you just look for "cx31993" on amazon you will find that

[austere creek]

can we move longer audio discussions to #🔌│tech

[crimson sky]

👍

[neon tiger]

hello Tony

[hexed knot]

is it possible to change springs force of the gk61 optical yellows to make them even faster?

(i know they're hella fast already)

[elfin garnet]

THANKS ❤️

[sturdy sentinel]

In pursuit of modding my wooting two he I need options for the case. I messaged wooting about spare cases but haven't got any response (If you work at wooting and have any info about getting spare parts please let me know!).

There was someone making an alternate case that was only a 3d printed prototype. I can't find that anymore. Does anyone know who did that and if there are stl I could print myself?

[languid kestrel]

springs don't make them any faster?

[hexed knot]

they do

by buttoming out faster

[languid kestrel]

uhhhh

that depends on how quick you press them

[hexed knot]

😮

[languid kestrel]

the force disparity between your finger strenght and the puny spring is.... massive

[hexed knot]

lol

who cares

🙂

xd

[languid kestrel]

whether you push down a 45g spring or a 60g spring is nothing when compared to an average finger pushing down a key

[broken cape]

too light springs makes you just accidentally actuate keystrokes

i was used to the lekker L60s and on the jades I definitely can't run them on 0.1 mm actuation anymore :p

[hexed knot]

yh true nvm

[wooden crane]

Random noob question here- I'm trying to plan my first custom build and really like the alumaze case, but I don't want HE switches. Do any of you know if I could fit something like a HS60 or Tofu PCB in there?

[ionic breach]

[languid kestrel]

if it's GH60-compatible then yes

[stray tiger]

Yes

[wooden crane]

Awesome, thanks 😄

[cedar gate]

Many other pcbs are compatible with alumaze there should be a list

But if you don't mind me asking why don't you want HE in there?

[cold bloom]

fair

redid some of my soundtests real quick

first is the tofu/wooting with raw HE 60g, fr4 plate, case foam and oring friction mount. second is my salvation with hmx 1989, no foams, fr4 plate

[kind sky]

how long should a custom cable be i about to make one

[languid kestrel]

...how long do you need it to be

[wooden crane]

@wooden crane well for one I just really like box whites, but mostly I don't want to commit myself to buying magnetic switches if I want to try something new. I just play RuneScape, cities skylines, and stardew valley so there's not much appeal for me with the HE switches.

[stone flax]

just get a gh60 pcb and slap it inside

[kind sky]

i heard the cable isnt compatible with tachyon and/or higher levels of rgb the longer it is

[cedar gate]

I would actually consider HE switches for those games mixed movement makes it much better imo

[languid kestrel]

length is one component, the other being shielding, the gauge of wire, all that

but since nobody discloses those, shorter is better if you want to run tachyon and max brightness (aka blinding you 100% of the time)

[kind sky]

how much amps or how thick should it be

or like a criteria

[polar girder]

What the frickkkkk

That’s sick

Nice

[languid kestrel]

I don't think there's a soul on the planet who knows that

all I know is thicker is better and a cable rated for higher wattage (say in the case of USB-PD) will probably satisfy these requirements better

[uneven sequoia]

Sadly the whole three printed case couldn't fit on the print bed at once. I will probably melt the parts together and sand it to make it look nicer. Also I'll be adding a small wooting logo in the top left

[kind sky]

ok ill just use 28awg

[languid kestrel]

then just turn off the LEDs to improve the finished product tenfold 😏

[untold wigeon]

Nice that turned out pretty well! 👍

[uneven sequoia]

Yeah I was going to leave it with a white backlight

[untold wigeon]

Sweet I’ve always wanted one of these

[polar girder]

Oh you printed that? Well done. Looks great. Appreciate the process. 🫡

[heavy escarp]

has anyone tried poron switch pads with their wooting?

[elfin garnet]

Nice one! it's on my wish list

[untold wigeon]

I grabbed it because it was 60% off

[elfin garnet]

From where?

[untold wigeon]

Just ordered the 60he any suggestions of customizations

[languid kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/every-single-one-of-them-steve-kornacki-msnbc-all-of-them-everyone-gif-19744458

[elfin garnet]

#🪛│modding_faq

[cold bloom]

not bad for 60$

[calm pulsar]

ohh that's nice, interesting set with the scratchable letters

not letters but whatever material covers them 😄

[stone flax]

doubleshot abs but the redaction is uv printed

[calm pulsar]

did someone tag me not long ago? I had a notification but can't see anything

[sweet oak]

[somber roost]

click the inbox button up there, shows you everything you've been pinged in

[elfin garnet]

I did because you messed up my Ali Express. It was in russian and showed rubles lmao

[calm pulsar]

thanks, I usually search for my name xd

[calm pulsar]

lmao, I mean usually when I link stuff I tell ppl to change the language

[sweet oak]

My module is making its way to me

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I deleted cookies and it was back to normal 😄

[calm pulsar]

less go

[untold wigeon]

Amazon

Now it’s only 20 percent off with a coupon

[polar girder]

Ordered

[tawdry tree]

70 in 1? Does that thing turn into a private jet as well?

[untold wigeon]

lol.

[tawdry tree]

the electric screwdriver from xiaomi is pretty good

cheap as well

[elfin garnet]

This?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

Quality is surprisingly high

it costs like $30

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I had one of the first electric scooters from them. Held up pretty well for 4-5 years before someone stole it rip

[tawdry tree]

they have so many products

[elfin garnet]

EV cars are pretty big in Norway. We have all kind of chinese brands. They are good at dishing out products let's say that lol

[cold bloom]

Yeah it’s uv print so it fades like mjj was saying

[polar girder]

I’m always tempted to buy the electric screw driver but I guess I’m not that lazy

[barren wasp]

is it possible to screw in the stock spacebar stabilizer on the 60he+?

[elfin garnet]

ifixit pro is more tempting tbh. Not electric but I like the idea of having everything I need in one place

[polar girder]

What

[polar girder]

Right yeah true

Agreed

[sweet oak]

I like their moray

[jade orchid]

The motor in mine gave out after a year with light use

[elfin garnet]

Did you go downhill too fast?

[barren wasp]

are neo lavenders good for thock compared to black knights?

[elfin garnet]

@polar girder I bought another frog mini. Found a guy selling it here in Norway. It's red, but I'm getting it spray painted. Project cosmos is in full effect LUL

[calm pulsar]

that's sick

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
Tofu w/ Brass x Neo Lavenders (Hand-Lubed) x PC Plate x GMK Redacted x Friciton Mount x Polyfill x Silicone Sandwich Pad x Stock Wooting Plate Mounts

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I didn't wanna mess with my silver so I figured I could get another one and get that spray prainted with a similar color/effect of the cosmos keycaps

[barren wasp]

do you have one for black knights

[tender anchor]

could somebody tell me if the 60he with L45 and alumaze case can have a thockier sound?

[harsh dove]

I have them but I don't have a sound test with them stock

[barren wasp]

what do you think of them? are they better than the lekkers 60 ?

[harsh dove]

Id say better than Lekker V1s but not V2s

[barren wasp]

i thought v2 werent out yet

[harsh dove]

There's a way lol

[barren wasp]

thought they were still in transit?

[harsh dove]

No some people got them early with a little workaround in the shop

[barren wasp]

got any sound tests?

[harsh dove]

Not that I know of but the Wooting YT Channel will be posting a sound test with Lekkers, Jades, Black Knights, etc soon

[barren wasp]

perfect just what i needed thank you

[elfin garnet]

Here's a sound test

[harsh dove]

Not too bad, can already tell they sound tighter

[elfin garnet]

yeah sounds nice

[barren wasp]

right now i have the v1.5 but my box says v2 for some reason, but if the difference between the two are just the magnet then im most likely going to stick with my 1.5

[rocky marten]

hey guys

anyway i can mod a non wooting keybaord

am i allowed to speak abt that here?

My wooting 60he doesnt get here for a week or two

so im curious abt modding my apex pro min

[tawdry tree]

NOOOOO!

Of course brother.

😊

[tawdry tree]

Don’t think you can mod it a lot, maybe not even a little bit.

Switches aren’t hotswappable

I don’t think it’s GH60 compatible either.

[rocky marten]

YEA

even a cardboard mod maybe

[polar girder]

Oh dang. Gangster

That’s exciting

[neat carbon]

man i'm so dumb i took out the pcb and stuff so i lube my stabs and then i just realised i could've just took the switch out and take the stabs out

[polar girder]

Not dumb. Learning*

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[neat carbon]

ngl took me longer to put the screws in 💀

[junior frigate]

This might be a stupid question, but if I buy a pre-built HE60, can I disassemble it to mod it?

[austere creek]

yes

and no not a stupid question

[quick rapids]

you have no clue how long i've been searching for something likethis

thank you

[pastel vigil]

You are welcome 🙂

[barren wasp]

what stabilizers should i get

i heard durock and tx are good

[polar girder]

Why you getting stabilizer?

[barren wasp]

less wobble and whatnot

[glossy pagoda]

I like your name

[barren wasp]

im new to modding so i cant tell if the stock wooting are good or not

but people say its bad

[glossy pagoda]

Good is subjective and "people" have every possible opinion possible

[pastel vigil]

Haha, thanks mark, I will never give up on the wootpad.

[pastel vigil]

They are perfectly fine, not worth the headache, especially if you are new to it all imo.

[barren wasp]

thats true only thing that bothers me is that the spacebar is unevenly lubed and its noticeable

[stone flax]

thats not how it works lol

unless ur stabs are egregious getting new stabs doesnt mean instantly better

[barren wasp]

🤷

[stone flax]

why shrug

literally

[barren wasp]

so theres no point then

[stone flax]

?

[stone flax]

have u tried tuning prior

[barren wasp]

thats what i thought from watching some videos

[barren wasp]

havent yet my kit should arrive soon

[rocky marten]

guys I lubed myself instead of the switch what do I do now?

[stone flax]

thock urself

[polar girder]

lol what people

I love my stock Wooting stabs

Both plate mount and screw in

Idk

[barren wasp]

keyboard modding youtubers

[elfin garnet]

"Stock stabs suck, try these. Check out code in the description"

[harsh dove]

Stock wooting stabs are good just tune and lube

[barren wasp]

does the PC plate change the sound enough to justify it being 26 dollars?

[polar girder]

“Justify” is subjective

I bought one just cuz I wanted black (already had a white one)

Sooo I’m probably not the best judge.

[barren wasp]

was the difference significant between the metal plate and the pc plate?

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s a pretty big difference

Going from thick stiff steel to thin flexible plastic

[calm pulsar]

looking forward to seeing your project
and to putting taiga on my silver froggie🐸

nice it took 3 days to fly from aus to california

[elfin garnet]

taiga on that silver is gonna look so sick. Excited to see it

[pastel vigil]

Imo the change in feel is what makes it worth it

[calm pulsar]

new pb

[stone flax]

slibidi

skibidi

[fluid ravine]

yelloo

finally home

@quiet bay where are you >:(

[quiet bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170199155927421020/1235713203149996172/image_2023-07-13_155304219.gif

biked home and took a shower 👍

[fluid ravine]

lul

gud

it's showering over here

girls got their vb practice but i gotta get home cus of my carpool D:

well news, i unlubed all of my top housings

now i gotta figure out some shit with my board

[sweet oak]

I need some rain in my life right now

Too hot out here

[austere creek]

go under the shower

turn it on

rain instantly

[sweet oak]

[untold wigeon]

Sandwich pad!!!!!!!!! That’s what it’s called. IVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS CALLED FOR WEEKS!!!! Lol Ty @harsh dove

[steep cape]

My module just arrived so I’m setting stuff up but what are these for?

Looks like black stickers that I believe came with my tofu60

[fluid ravine]

yeah for me, i call the silicone "pad" and the poron foam "plate foam"

[untold wigeon]

That works too.

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/shook-shocked-owl-omg-shock-gif-13375538

Man I can’t wait for my POM plate to be finished. It’s gonna be a long couple weeks.

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-penguin-hurry-penguins-patience-gif-26624891

[junior frigate]

Do any of you have your Wooting tape modded?
New to modding keyboards, so was wondering if there was a significant difference, and if so what tape I should buy

[untold wigeon]

Painters tape. The blue stuff

[fluid ravine]

I don't

[calm pulsar]

I don't

[fluid ravine]

me over here trying to figure out how to encourage my dad trying to pay for the shipping

[untold wigeon]

I did. I don’t now

[fluid ravine]

it was pretty tuff when i was negotiating for CAM

😂

[untold wigeon]

Go mow the lawn. Quid pro quo

[fluid ravine]

2 nos and 1 fine 😂

[fluid ravine]

permission*

[untold wigeon]

You want a Pom plate? Won’t that ruin the clack?

[stray tiger]

Havent you heard? Clack is out again. Time for creamy to shine

[fluid ravine]

nah cf :(

[untold wigeon]

@quiet bay the contest winner out here changing hearts and minds.

[fluid ravine]

PC makes the RAWS sound dead imo

POM and PC quite similar but POM has that unique pop in it

so does PP

[fluid ravine]

fr

[untold wigeon]

Oh duh. Never mind I get it. If it’s a problem I’ll cover it. Don’t you worry

[fluid ravine]

"creamy"

[fluid ravine]

feeling guilty

[untold wigeon]

Don’t.

[fluid ravine]

Sometimes I wish i was older for a day

[calm pulsar]

nahh its all good

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/you-take-that-back-take-that-back-take-it-back-gif-26506942

[fluid ravine]

[steep cape]

Do I have too much foam in my case cause I can’t seem to screw in the pcb to the tofu60. I’m using foam from both the case and the module

[untold wigeon]

Sounds like it

[fluid ravine]

If you notice that you have to compress your pcb into the case with foam then yeah

[steep cape]

So 1 layer of foam is the max?

[untold wigeon]

I constantly wish I was younger all the time. lol.

[fluid ravine]

ok maybe older by just one year 👀

[fluid ravine]

depends on what foam you're using

if you're using the wooting's then yeah

1 layer

[steep cape]

Yeah I was using wooting + bottom foam from the tofu60 redux which is a lot thinner

[untold wigeon]

Too much

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[untold wigeon]

One or the other.

[calm pulsar]

just use the tofu one

[fluid ravine]

combination of both doesn't go to well sometimes

uhm- @quiet bay ..

[uneven cradle]

Remove foam embrace clack

[fluid ravine]

Remove the foam, embrace the hollowness

[calm pulsar]

that's if they got the right switches

[uneven cradle]

I'm excited to play around with the 80he configurations

[fluid ravine]

alright here's the plan

[uneven cradle]

Get some custom plates cut for the 80he - good plan

[fluid ravine]

Zinc Case
GMK keycaps
RAW HE (Fuck Jades respectfully 🫶 )
Silicone Gasket Pad
PC plate (Ermmm)
Remove tape mod
No case foam

[fluid ravine]

fax

[harsh dove]

Need POM and Alu plates for 80HE

[uneven cradle]

PP

[ionic breach]

Need Foam Gasket Plates for the 80HE

Imagine the potential

[uneven cradle]

Why u gotta say that about my switches bro

[calm pulsar]

brother aint never even had em xdd

[fluid ravine]

what u gonna do abt it >:D

[ionic breach]

low key

[fluid ravine]

mue hehehehe

[ionic breach]

i prefer lekkers over both lmao

its more rounded and whole

[fluid ravine]

hmmm

[uneven cradle]

[fluid ravine]

i worry that that gaskets "tabs" of the plate foam would bend in

[ionic breach]

ya

[fluid ravine]

i dont think it would be stiff enough for thing to support the module

[ionic breach]

i wonder if i just cut out the middle of the silicon

[calm pulsar]

tbh I wish wooting tkl existed w/ all 80he features

[fluid ravine]

hmmm

that'd be interesting

like that nipple case?

[ionic breach]

the wut?

[uneven cradle]

This is the Wooting TKL

[fluid ravine]

how they have like a silicone mount on the outer edge and the plate foam in the middle?

[ionic breach]

ya

[fluid ravine]

KBDfans Case 461E

the "Nipple" case- Tirade

[harsh dove]

I'll have mine by the end of this week

[ionic breach]

oh ya that

[fluid ravine]

o man i thought u had it already :(

[polar girder]

Fuck RAW’s (Semi respectfully)

[calm pulsar]

I mean I know they're good but you don't have to fuck em

[polar girder]

Maybe YOU don’t have to

[calm pulsar]

who knows what'll happen once they get here in ~10 days

[exotic inlet]

Are there really big differences between stabilizers?

[celest parrot]

Jades pros?

I want your opinion on those 🙌🏻

[untold wigeon]

Not sticking with the tkl standard was a huge misstep imo but I understand why they did it

[harsh dove]

Nah 461E Case from KBDFans

[untold wigeon]

Paint it flesh color and send a pic to Tirade. lol

@harsh dove do you have the Pom plate from Hypekeyboards?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

Do the case screws work for it or do you need longer ones?

Never mind I just realized that question is dumb.

[quiet bay]

hi frijoles I think I MIGHT ship out your package on saturday hopefully

ok crap I cant

I forgot im celebrating my friend's bday on that day

hmm I'll see if I can bike to the USPS some day this week after school then 👍

[fading cove]

what are best things to mod just for the performance

[quiet bay]

just for performance you just leave the keyboard alone pretty much ngl lol

unless you want lighter switches

[calm pulsar]

none lul

[fading cove]

ohr

[stone elbow]

should i put the anti pinging stickers from wooting on my tofu even if i'm friction mounting it?

[calm pulsar]

i'd put them personally to avoid pcb touching the metal, in case it does

[stone elbow]

forgot to mention it's acrylic

[rich phoenix]

I see someone is declaring war on the Principality of Jade

[stone elbow]

never hurts to put them on tho

[fluid ravine]

which is who

heh

[calm pulsar]

oh in this case probably no need, unless you know it does touch the posts and you can make it softer

[fluid ravine]

I can do this all day

[quiet bay]

anti pinging stickers? I think they're just adhesive foams that protect the standoffs from scratches

[rich phoenix]

Lekker 1.5 honestly are pretty solid but still have slightly more stem wobble than jades

[calm pulsar]

I think these are the little thingies that come with the module that act similar to orings in a burger mount

[untold wigeon]

Whenever. No rush. 😁

[rich phoenix]

Be one of the lucky few where UPS delivers the package anyway cuz the USPS office got closed

saved me a solid 2 days on delivery

[quiet bay]

honestly you wouldn't really need the protection rings if ur friction mounting

[quiet bay]

so just little pads to protect from screws

but not actual o rings for burger mount

[steep raft]

♥️

[polar girder]

Which case is that

Looks great

[steep raft]

ADK64 Translucent Colorway

Thank you!!

[uneven cradle]

that's a chonker case

[steep raft]

I like it is not too much taller but the keys are almost indented. Never had anything that style before but it's cool

[untold wigeon]

OMFG rip my ears. 😭

That was so freaking loud

[steep cape]

I dont think i saw those with my module

do those only come with the alumaze

[untold wigeon]

Ummmmm??? Broken in? Is this a nice way of saying used? I’ve never seen this before.

[steep cape]

nvm found them

[stone elbow]

i still put them in anyway, gives me peace of mind even if it's not metal, the tofu had demi circle stickers too for the top and bottom

[uneven cradle]

Pretty common especially for cherry switches - people will spend a premium for broken in switches usually they just use a machine to activate the switches a few hundred thousand times to smooth them out

[untold wigeon]

I wish Wooting would sell just the pcb.

[echo bronze]

they already sell just the pcb no?

it comes with stabs and a plate

[untold wigeon]

That’s actually understandable. Clever even.

[untold wigeon]

Just the pcb. Nothing else.

[stone elbow]

just need a cable now to finish the look

[echo bronze]

tbh the stabs and plate that the module comes with is probably not expensive anyways so you wouldnt save that much money with just pcb

[untold wigeon]

Nice. I like how the legends reveal themselves. lol.

Not the point. I already have a million parts. Just need the pcb lol.

[north plover]

has anyone friction mounted with the silicone inbetween plate/pcb

[fluid ravine]

yes

[stone flax]

??

very real term for a very real proccess

[north plover]

how?

[north plover]

the ring seems a bit too hard to squish in

[fluid ravine]

You cut it

[north plover]

got it ty

[fluid ravine]

Ye

[untold wigeon]

Southpaw full size looks like the work of the devil.

[steep cape]

Is that supposed to be a left handed keyboard

[jade storm]

lol

what's good haha

[stone flax]

?

U know whats dumber for productivity

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[stone flax]

forcing two actions at the same time on two more naturally right handed actions

Lol

It doesnt need to be lefthanded

[untold wigeon]

It looks unnatural

[untold wigeon]

What?

[stone flax]

south paw is literally better for mouse space and making using numpad+mouse better

Literally easier to squeeze ur arms inwards or switch hands between numpad and mouse?

Is that what ur saying

[untold wigeon]

Full size board is the same size no matter what side the numpad is on.

[untold wigeon]

No. I’m saying it looks strange. lol.

[stone flax]

Im talking about mouse clearance for mice in the right side of the board

Do i need to draw a diagram?

[untold wigeon]

I don’t take my hand off the mouse while gaming typically. I guess it’s over my head

[uneven cradle]

i kinda dig the flip

cool concept - seems like a bit of a pain to build though

[stone flax]

then the flip isnt intended for u ngl, regardless its literally reversible

does not matter in the end

[untold wigeon]

It’s interesting for sure. Kinda strange though it being that big but eliminating the function row

[stone flax]

frl’s are nice

long bois

[uneven cradle]

function row is pretty easy to shortcut for me

[stone flax]

its all in function+num anyways

Lol

[uneven cradle]

i dig a w1 too

[cold bloom]

classic geon opening scene keeb

ouu he's showing off a borderlands style keycap set like that recent higround set in his last stream

these are kinda dope

[untold wigeon]

Oh wow I’ve never seen the function keys on the side before

[untold wigeon]

What profile is that?

[uneven cradle]

MTNU

[untold wigeon]

Is it like short SA?

[cold bloom]

kinda yeah

[untold wigeon]

Neat

[cold bloom]

it's a new profile by a guy I think his initials are MT

and gmk makes them in full PBT

[uneven cradle]

it's more like cherry but rounded at the top

[cold bloom]

it looks really nice

to type on

[languid forge]

i love xray

[untold wigeon]

I meant how they are dished on top

[cold bloom]

yes

similar

[languid forge]

yo guys

I need help

which painters tape should I buy?

https://www.bunnings.com.au/scotchblue-48mm-x-55m-original-multi-surface-painter-s-masking-tape_p1214167

[untold wigeon]

With?

[languid forge]

https://www.bunnings.com.au/scotch-general-painting-36mm-x-55m-painter-s-masking-tape_p1660168

one says multi surface

[cold bloom]

tape mod is kinda fazing out it seems like, less and less people are doing it, but it can change sound a bit

[languid forge]

and another says general

[untold wigeon]

First one

[languid forge]

this one holy?

[languid forge]

i mean I see tape mod sound tests and it works

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I would get that one wider it is the less you can use.

[cold bloom]

I agree was just saying Ive been seeing it less and less

all preference you do you!

[uneven cradle]

but yeah i'd like to try a MTNU set - it's 100% PBT which is hard to do (I don't think anybody else makes 100% PBT keycaps)

[cold bloom]

yeah I've never heard of it before

usually it's a blend

[languid forge]

yeye

idk im new

[coarse wigeon]

Any idea when wootility 5 is coming?

[cold bloom]

all good brotha

[languid forge]

havent seen it phase out

[cold bloom]

I think any mod you wanna try is worth it

[languid forge]

real

[cold bloom]

it's all fun to try and learn

[uneven cradle]

the centered legends kind of put me off though not the biggest fan

[stray prawn]

Hey guys! I'm here looking to change the sound profile of my wooting to something more "creamy" and I'm not really sure where to start on mods that might help out - or switches and maybe keycaps that could help get me there. Please ping me with suggestions! 😄

[cold bloom]

that's fair

I didn't even really notice before lol

[uneven cradle]

tbh the only builds I've heard of the 60he that sounded "creamy" to me were with ceramic keycaps

[stray prawn]

are they really heavy?

[uneven cradle]

they are heavier then standard keycaps - especially the spacebar

will need heavier springs for the spacebar specifically

[untold wigeon]

Cerakeys with Raws and full foam. I don’t know if I would call it creamy per say

But I could be totally off base

[stray prawn]

the spacebar does sound really good

Unfortunately I don't want to swap keycaps since they do match my deskmat :<

Do they contribute significantly to sound profile?

[stone elbow]

ducky :D

[untold wigeon]

Yee

[steep cape]

i dont know if people consider the jades to be wobbly but oml compared to my old keyboard its so stiff

[untold wigeon]

Do not take the spacebar sound as fact. That was with a 50g spring and it was half pressed due to the weight

[untold wigeon]

Very much.

Same setup with gmk keycaps

[stray prawn]

oh wow

[untold wigeon]

Very wobbly compared to Raws

[steep cape]

thats crazy

[fluid ravine]

mue hehe!

[quiet bay]

raws r so nice to type on'

[fluid ravine]

yet im struggling to make my board to sound fine

[stray prawn]

what are raws?

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-tea-sassy-teacup-posh-gif-1816409601702153303

[quiet bay]

I need more raw hes but I need to erm

MONEY MANAGE

[fluid ravine]

Geon RAW HE

[fluid ravine]

REAL

[stone flax]

I NEED IT RAW

[stray prawn]

Ohh I've never heard of them before

[untold wigeon]

@fluid ravine build. Aka superclack!!!

[fluid ravine]

RAAAAAAAAAAAA

oh shit thats louder than the poron one

damn

[untold wigeon]

Way louder.

[fluid ravine]

hehe

[stray prawn]

oh hey the raws are pretty cheap

[fluid ravine]

i need to liven up this board!

this sound dead as shit!

[untold wigeon]

What switches are you using?

[fluid ravine]

RAWS

lul

[quiet bay]

IM TELLING U

[untold wigeon]

I thought you needed Raws?

[quiet bay]

STEEL PLATE

!!!!

[fluid ravine]

no i got them

[fluid ravine]

NO

FUCK STEEL PALTE

RE

EW

[untold wigeon]

Ohhhh

[stone elbow]

i wanna buy the raws now, but must save for car

[fluid ravine]

[quiet bay]

NUH UH MY CLACK WAS LIVELIER THAN URS WHEN I USED STEEL PLATE

[fluid ravine]

a few bucks wont hurt hehe

[rocky geyser]

I can find Jade Pro's, but do we know when Max series is purchasable?

[untold wigeon]

Give it a couple weeks. You’ll have your CF plate

[fluid ravine]

STFU I HAD GMK WITH LEKKERS

[quiet bay]

because pc plate

smh

temporarily switch to steel

!!!

[fluid ravine]

grrrr

[stone elbow]

[fluid ravine]

FINE

ill try it >:(

bish

[quiet bay]

heh

[fluid ravine]

but first

[untold wigeon]

Wait….. you have Raws on pc?

[fluid ravine]

kill the spider that was on my desk

[stray prawn]

I'm sure your wallet won't mind at all

[fluid ravine]

i saw it crawling around D:

[fluid ravine]

what wallet

[fluid ravine]

ye ye

[stone elbow]

what's wrong with that setup?

[untold wigeon]

And you’re wondering why it sounds dead?

[fluid ravine]

no i know why it sounds dead

the pc plate is the problem on why it sounds dead

nothing else really

it usually would be the switch, plate, mount, keycaps

etc

[steep cape]

i had silver speeds before and those were crazy wobbly compared to my new wooting with jades

[fluid ravine]

but rn PC plate is the main problem

[untold wigeon]

As long as you know. But I have to agree with @quiet bay Steel to bring it to life

[fluid ravine]

maybe too alive in theory

lol

ping ping

[untold wigeon]

You could argue that

[fluid ravine]

guess ill try

[untold wigeon]

True actually. The steel does resonate where the CF doesn’t

[steep cape]

in what way? is it just louder?

[quiet bay]

hmm

first day school was pretty kool

i have good teachers but

school end at 3 😩

[steep cape]

9-3 doesn't sound that bad ngl

[untold wigeon]

It reflects the sound and is generally some of the loudest material you can use

[fluid ravine]

louder and brighter yes

[quiet bay]

it's 8-3

but I arrive early at 7:35

to scan in

cause there are 2000 kids at my school

[fluid ravine]

usually if you want the board to sound more brighter, you would have to use a stiffer plate

[steep cape]

lol dang that seems long for highschool, I had 8-2 when I was in school. And then college of course had weird ass schedules

[quiet bay]

i mean

if you count advisory as free time

[fluid ravine]

same

[quiet bay]

then it'd be like 9-3

[fluid ravine]

i have 8-1 on fridays

but 8-3 on others

[quiet bay]

nevertheless you're still in school anyway

[quiet bay]

I wish 😭

[stone elbow]

college schedules 💀

a few times i had 8am until 6pm

[quiet bay]

oh noes

[steep cape]

Advisory? Is that like a study hall period

[stone flax]

steel plate lowk disgusting

🤢

wait what the

that msg was so long ago

[quiet bay]

advisory is pretty much just homeroom

[stone flax]

[steep cape]

Ah I never had homeroom in hs lol

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/priguiça-lazy-ride-crawl-gif-17098176

Adult schedules.

[steep cape]

Yeah I just graduated college, adjusting is not fun

[quiet bay]

damn

I might just go into like a trade school or smth instead of college

[untold wigeon]

It never is

[steep cape]

College is so fun

[untold wigeon]

I did trade school. I wish I did college

[quiet bay]

rlly?

whjat trade did u do

what did they make u do

[untold wigeon]

Tractor trailer driving

[quiet bay]

ohh

I wanna go to trade school cause I want a decent job lol

[fluid ravine]

gg

[quiet bay]

and maybe a life skill

[untold wigeon]

Do computers learn mandarin. Earn big money. That’s my advice

[quiet bay]

my high school offers mandarin but im doing spanish rn 😂

[untold wigeon]

Nice

[steep cape]

You can always go back

[untold wigeon]

I have children in college. I’m too old. lol.

[steep cape]

Business is shat on a lot but some of the smartest people I know majored in it.

[quiet bay]

welding seems like something I'd want to do but my ears and eyes are going to be blasted 😂

probably joints too

[untold wigeon]

Not if you use proper ppe

[quiet bay]

if I got a welding job in my state it'd be 25.01 an hour 👀

probably averaged up but

holy cow alaska

[fluid ravine]

I'm already not liking where this is going @quiet bay

[quiet bay]

use poron plate foam fr 😎

[steep cape]

just be an underwater welder

[quiet bay]

no thanks

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay i got them all in

yes it sounds a bit louder but i can hear the resonance

[quiet bay]

use ze poron plate foam

[fluid ravine]

i put silicone in

[untold wigeon]

If you could take the time to perfectly cut out the killmat I’ll bet the steel plate would sound great. I mean that’s exactly what the killmat is for. Killing resonance

[fluid ravine]

still resonate

[fluid ravine]

dont got kilmat :D

[untold wigeon]

Oh well then

[fluid ravine]

there's so much plate sound than switch

imo rn

[untold wigeon]

Of course there is. It’s steel

[fluid ravine]

thats what im saying >:(

thats why i was against it

[untold wigeon]

lol

I wonder if tape would quiet it down a bit

[fluid ravine]

welp

guess im going to be using this for a "while"

Need some time to do my homework\

fak

[fluid ravine]

you think washing the polycarbonate plate in water be fine?

i wanna wash off the lube from the plate dont by the switches

[quiet bay]

er sound test where?

smh smh

[untold wigeon]

Yes can’t see why not. Just make sure it’s dry before reinstalling

[fluid ravine]

ye ye lol

[fluid ravine]

ermmm

fine

gimme a in

finna do it through mic

my days i wish i had my own room

fak

@quiet bay

reee

yeah brighter but more pingy overall

it's worst without the silicone

[quiet bay]

erm what the flip it still sounds sad and depressing

[fluid ravine]

exactly

[quiet bay]

are u using polyfill

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[quiet bay]

get rid of it 😏

[fluid ravine]

no what

why

you want me to make a ping master 3000?

[quiet bay]

yes

[thorn zealot]

what was cookin up in the microwave back there

[fluid ravine]

Chè

[thorn zealot]

that stuff actually goes crazy

wont lie

[dapper tartan]

Looking up Chè gave me the craziest flashback memory, I once ate that at a friends place when I was 8

[thorn zealot]

was it good

[dapper tartan]

Yes, this is crazy. This was 24 years ago, but I see the picture of the food and I know right how it tasted again

Lol, not at all on topic. But thanks for unlocking that memory

[sterile bluff]

Hello. I am new to modding keyboard. I am thinking of getting the sticky rice switches

Ive heard some concern regarding it damaging the pcb

so i would like to hear thoughts on it

[thorn zealot]

i dont think it damages the pcb

idk much abt it other then that it isnt compatible with wooting

you can look at this list for compatible ones #🪛│modding_faq message

[sterile bluff]

https://milktooth.com/products/switches/sticky-rice?srsltid=AfmBOooN-GQrXW15QXVhNmYRjf6oHc7-f9aafQUliP72NSTfS_IBN2za

[thorn zealot]

def meant to do that

[sterile bluff]

it's this one

[sterile bluff]

i dont understand, i saw someone putting this switch into their 60he, so idk why it's not compatible, unless i am misunderstanding what compatible means in keyboard...

[thorn zealot]

ik milktooth made a vid saying its fine

but it literally says its not compatible on his own website

[sterile bluff]

that's...strange

i want thocky sounds, and it seems like the sticky rice is the best option for it

[thorn zealot]

yeah i would look somewhere else

[sterile bluff]

the only alternative ive seen is geon raptor with lekker stem

[dapper tartan]

Whats the website? On his shop he says it's compatible

[sterile bluff]

but i am too afraid to bust the switches open and mess things up

[calm pulsar]

try black knights, seems like a good lower pitched switch

[marsh saffron]

Don't get these

[thorn zealot]

wow im fucking blind

i read the notice as not compatible

[dapper tartan]

Ah, I see

[thorn zealot]

but its not

not sure if u can read it but it says not compatible

[dapper tartan]

Full disclosure, I've ordered the sticky rice switches to try anyway, but I've come to realize it might be more of a bad decission than I already initially thought

[thorn zealot]

can u cancel

[dapper tartan]

Where's that from?

[thorn zealot]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[sterile bluff]

can u explain why?

[dapper tartan]

Mennn, I find it so hard to retrieve info from a discord server. This would've helped yeah

Do you know where I can read the notes?

As it says for compatibility "no (see notes)"

[thorn zealot]

there were notes but i think someone deleted them or some

i think the notes were something along the lines of

that the sensor of the sticky rice overloaded the kb or something

i dont even understand it but others will give u a better explanation

all i know is that they dont work well

[calm pulsar]

iirc future wooting firmware might solve some issues with them, but I'm not sure of that

[dapper tartan]

Hm okay, well I guess I'll have to take care of that then

[calm pulsar]

you can consider black knights as this is considered a good deeper sounding switch among some modders here

[paper bloom]

Its basically their switch magnets overloaded the keyboards PCB sensor

Due to the flux of magnetic power

[paper bloom]

He cld try RAW HE GEONS

Has the sounds of a jades profile

[paper bloom]

But a little of modding and some magnetic stem changes i think it shld be ok but that would be the hard part to do

[dapper tartan]

Beyond repair or is it just that they wont work properly?

[calm pulsar]

someone mentioned "thocky" sounds so 😄
but I personally don't like open bottoms anyway

[paper bloom]

Wont work

[paper bloom]

Its a hybrid

It isnt SO open like jades or Lekkers

Its like a tiny little hole

[calm pulsar]

I know about raws, they are on the way to me

[paper bloom]

Ye

[stone flax]

I LOVE RAWS

whatevers going on here

just get raws

[paper bloom]

Other switches will work but just know that the RAW HE's or the jades will work

[stone flax]

❤️

[paper bloom]

But it depends on your personal preference

I didnt mind using the L45's when i ran it initially

[thorn zealot]

i would if they were in stock and if i didnt buy my bali

[stone flax]

wdym?

[dapper tartan]

Yeah, it's a lot to consider tbh. I have a gmmk pro which I grew inpatient with for a number of reasons, and that motivated my impulsive wooting + switches buy

[paper bloom]

im saying 2 different switches or other will work

[paper bloom]

It isnt rlly a lot to consider

[north plover]

Im friction mounting it but the port seems to want to go up, how do i fix this?

[paper bloom]

You just get what you want and if it doesnt work for you, you could always mod it

Like a spring swap

[north plover]

pressing down on it doesnt work, its not really staying down

[stone flax]

just kinda worded weird

[paper bloom]

It happens

[dapper tartan]

Yeah but I mean, for the switches, getting what I want, and not having to buy everything 6 times over. That's what I meant is a lot to consider. Like I didn't know the sticky rice switches are most likely going to be an issue

Honestly my fault for not putting in more research, but then again, I felt like I trusted the milktooth site so egg on my face (or milk)

[paper bloom]

Yea this is why it is important to look into your stuff and research in advance but dw

Just take it slow ig

[dapper tartan]

Haha, exactly

[thorn zealot]

u got a pic or vid

[dapper tartan]

I have a keyboard, and it works, just not at all how I'd like it to and sometimes with problems. But I'll manage untill then

[north plover]

yea hold on a second

[paper bloom]

U cld just get a replacement but if not run somethin else ig

But yea ik that feeling of frustration

[dapper tartan]

I'll be fine though, and it's another lesson learned here

[paper bloom]

Yea

[limpid meadow]

Hi guys, how does the wooting 2 he feels like when typing? Is it noisy when touch typing compared to a regular red mx

[north plover]

Can i send it through DMS?

[stone flax]

wait so u bought sticky rices?

[dapper tartan]

I already did yeah

[thorn zealot]

sure il try to help

[stone flax]

......

@dapper tartan

pretty sure stuff like this is why sticky rices werent put as being well compatible

i do think this has been fixed tho(????)

i mainly remember issues like this being brought up for way older batches

also the fact theres diff versions of sticky rices

[dapper tartan]

Yeah, I got the advice to check this discord, and I did but I'm not to familiair with discord in this way (using it as a repository) so I barely found some messages about it being a bit uncertain if it would work or not. So I took the gamble. But I guess with what everyone is showing me now it's a bad gamble

But as long as they wont break the board, there's no huge problem

I'll just have to find other switches then 💁‍♂️

[glacial wind]

Ah fresh supplies have arrived

[hallow wing]

Hey, so I am trying to get into modding my keyboard just to make it "thocky"and feel nice, i was just thinking of getting the stuff that wooting offers but not sure if I should invest into that or if there is better options 🙇‍♂️

[glacial wind]

Keep in mind jades are not particularly thocky (although they do have a nice clean sound that beats a lot of switches)

the only thing I’d change personally is I’d buy geon raw he switches over the jades

[stone flax]

man switches in the current point shouldnt really matter for sound profile when ur sacrificing a whole lot of stability and feel along the way

u can always work on closing that gap in terms of sound by modifying everything around the switches prior

[stone flax]

beautiful

[steep cape]

honestly stock geon raw he switches are probably good enough on their own with factory lubing. People seem to like them better than jades too

[stone flax]

their sound is similar enough but raws are definitely better wobble wise + they come off a bit cleaner

[hallow wing]

@steep cape @glacial wind so do you guys think it's fine to just go with those but swap to raw?

[stone flax]

jades are fine by all means

[polar girder]

https://divinikey.com/products/daring-run-flip-6p-keyboard

This thing is sick

Tf

It’s flipped lol

[stone flax]

its reverisble for southpaw and not

which is cooler

[polar girder]

Jades suck

Raws suck

Closed bottom switches over rated

[hallow wing]

😭

[stone flax]

thock goober talking ^

[polar girder]

Even half way closed

[hallow wing]

why this so hard to choose

[polar girder]

Just buy black knights if you want thock

There’s no such thing as thock for HE by the way

[stone flax]

its a joke

just cram foam

[polar girder]

Raw is best HE switch for like wobble and tolerance and stuff

But black knight is best for quieter lower tone sound

IMO

[glacial wind]

The order you mean? Yeah looks fine to me. I’d swap the jades out to raw he and I’d personally just buy lube elsewhere since wooting gives you so much more lube than needed (and I prefer to use oil for spring lubing)

[polar girder]

By most objective measurements RAW is best switch. But if you prefer quieter and or lower tone sound then RAW ain’t it

[hallow wing]

Eh I just want some thock but don't want it to affect any performance

[polar girder]

I vote black knight

That’s what I did

I’m happy

Stock lube is good too

[hallow wing]

what do you recommend for lube?

[fluid ravine]

^ ^^

I'd agree on bigsly for this one

[stone flax]

most he's are fine stock

[polar girder]

Black knights are also hella oiled stock lol

I like them

I just bag lubed my springs and called it good

[glacial wind]

Honestly raw he is fine stock but I like to give the springs a bag lube with gpl105 oil

[hallow wing]

ok