🔧│keyboard_modding

[thorn zealot]

and it not even close to geon

[fluid ravine]

so nothing wrong with that tbh

[untold wigeon]

Less yes but takes longer and is out of stock

[fluid ravine]

DHL express

[glacial wind]

Well yeah but if he’s not in a rush it doesn’t matter

[untold wigeon]

True

[thorn zealot]

yeah i have black jades rn il wait it out

[fluid ravine]

My dad said for it arriving in 2 days, it's pretty cheap 😂

[untold wigeon]

It’s not my money he can do whatever he wants lol.

[thorn zealot]

plus i just bought cherry clip ins and an alu plate

thats enough $ spent

[untold wigeon]

Nice

[untold wigeon]

He’s right

[late quest]

which one better?

[untold wigeon]

Us old farts know stuff. lol.

[glacial wind]

People do love their cherry stabs for value

[fluid ravine]

i mean yeah i agree, its just if you're willing to pay the price

[untold wigeon]

Imo Raws

[late quest]

alr

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-cat-gif-555799605331270828

[fluid ravine]

I would happily pay dhl express once in a while

[devout torrent]

yeah dude geon is goated

I paid the 25 shipping

had the switches literally 2 days later

[fluid ravine]

yurrrrr

[devout torrent]

from fucking Korea

[untold wigeon]

Same. Worth every penny

[glacial wind]

is there anyone with both that actually prefers jades vs raw? To me they’re so close in sound that it’s always been no brainer that raw are better

[fluid ravine]

Like I just see a yellow van outside my parking lot and straight up said wtf

[thorn zealot]

i alr paid kbdfans shipping

[devout torrent]

only the mentally ill

[thorn zealot]

not spending more 25 shipping

[fluid ravine]

bro came up the front door and i was scared as shit cus i never seen a shipping carrier van

that is frigin yellow

[untold wigeon]

I have Dash and Raw. It’s Raw and not even close

[tawdry tree]

Not really a difference in sound. You’d do it for the reduced wobble.

[stone flax]

raws

[late quest]

just to make sure GEON raw go on wooting right?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[devout torrent]

raw HE to be specfici

there are other raws

[fluid ravine]

Geon RAW HE

That are MX

[untold wigeon]

Raw he yes

[fluid ravine]

There's different raw variants out there that are for MX PCBs, you need the RAW "HE" in order to use it on the wooting pcb

[gilded hinge]

have there been any silent switch options as of recent

[late quest]

alr

[fluid ravine]

HE stands for Hall Effect which is the technology that wooting use to do all their magic

[untold wigeon]

Coming soon

[gilded hinge]

oooo

which ones

[untold wigeon]

Jades I think

[gilded hinge]

need to invest in silents cuz moving into dorms soon

[fluid ravine]

Oh yeah they releasing like a Silent Jade variant right?

There was a news leak or wtv i think

i dont rememba

[untold wigeon]

I believe so. I’m not 100%

[stone flax]

Purple one

[gilded hinge]

theyre releasing a bunch of jade variants no?

yea

[untold wigeon]

Listen to @stone flax he knows the deal

[gilded hinge]

the clear looks interesting

[glacial wind]

The question is how silent though

[stone flax]

i assume similar to zero degree

[glacial wind]

Because raesha released silent that weren’t really silent

[untold wigeon]

DAMNIT!!! Purple housing matches my aesthetic. Now I gotta buy more.

[untold wigeon]

This is the million dollar question

[gilded hinge]

are geon raws still the best

generally

[stone flax]

Appears to be the same if not similar system

[glacial wind]

Yeah most here would say that

[stone flax]

So zero degrees with he touch?

[untold wigeon]

So just silicone dampers?

[stone flax]

yeah but on housings

silents do it in all sorts of ways

[untold wigeon]

What about for the bottom out?

[gilded hinge]

^

[stone flax]

Will feel mushy still

[untold wigeon]

Eh. Uninterested again

[stone flax]

the only silents im interested in are those using negative space

zero mush introduced

[untold wigeon]

Now this has my attention

[stone flax]

lichicx ones are nice too

[untold wigeon]

Mx though, right?

[stone flax]

for now yeah

but i think the haimu silents (negative space) owe it largely to having two holes in the bottom housing

to the point that doing it on other regular switches do the almost the same effect

[flat cobalt]

What's the 3rd one?

[untold wigeon]

Interesting

[stone flax]

integrated he

[stone flax]

oh yeah

https://youtu.be/ahShvBMoMWk?si=vInHRJdwCSQe63sJ guy does it at 3:48

To a gat yellow

results are actually pretty substantial

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-24749838

Box stems???

[fluid ravine]

Do you like mine?

mmmm budget type shit

[spice plover]

hey was wondering if anyone can help me maximize my bounce in the salvation case?

[fluid ravine]

@cold bloom

[spice plover]

Dave I need u

[sweet oak]

We dont hate on budget

[fluid ravine]

I pretty much gave you answers on that yesterday but you could ask him or CAM they have salvations

[untold wigeon]

Yeah that’s Dave territory

[fluid ravine]

And im in it >:D

[spice plover]

If he doesn’t respond can I vid chat you to make sure everything right ?

[fluid ravine]

sure

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-in-your-lane-mind-your-business-back-off-dont-mess-with-me-mad-gif-13774746

[spice plover]

I mean u said put poron foam?

[untold wigeon]

lol

[spice plover]

Or I forgot the like fluffy stuff

[fluid ravine]

Screw tension and polyfill

[spice plover]

But idk if I even have that I have cotton balls 😂

[fluid ravine]

If i had the salvation i would use the case to its raw potential

[spice plover]

Let me see if I have any polyfill

[fluid ravine]

no case foam and just use the leaf springs as is

[spice plover]

Yeh I don’t have any foam in

[untold wigeon]

Sacrifice a pillow

[spice plover]

Ok I will

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-throw-sacrifice-simba-sacrificing-gif-17413569

[spice plover]

Lmaooo

Yeah if Dave doesn’t come I’ll try it

Is this actually a mod ?

Like it makes a difference lol?

[fluid ravine]

Not necessarily a "mod" but its just a type of foam you can use as case foam

[untold wigeon]

Omg I woke up my wife I lold so hard

[spice plover]

I laughed too lol

[fluid ravine]

I find polyfill as the most balance foam types throughout the other materials

[gritty magnet]

some new gateron jades and other for those interested

[fluid ravine]

Terms of sound and the amount you put in your board

[fluid ravine]

lul we were just talking about this

[untold wigeon]

He sold me on it. I won’t go back

[fluid ravine]

LOL

Im like that

Pops (Tirade) sold me on it as well

ever since i got it, i put it in every board i modded

my spare board and even the boards i build for my friends

[harsh dove]

I finished rebuilding the tofu with abs and pc plate , just gotta record a video now

Might slap some poly fill in it

[untold wigeon]

That would be awesome! Ty so much!

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[daring valve]

Just finished the build.

PBT Copper as a place holder for GMK Kitsune.

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-nooice-bling-key-and-peele-gif-4294979

[spice plover]

@fluid ravine

[daring valve]

Geon Raw HE + Black Salvation + Wooting Module, stock stabs.

[spice plover]

I swear I think I put too many of them in or something wrong with the metal ones I have in

[daring valve]

I relubed the stabs with 205g0 and XHT-BDZ

[daring valve]

I literally just finished mine.

What’re you having trouble with?

[spice plover]

Me too bro I need to make it bounce more

[daring valve]

I didn’t put the ones on the far sides on.

[spice plover]

Like I feel like it bounced in specific spots perfect just not enough near wasd

[daring valve]

I followed alexotos’ build.

I also made sure to use the black screws on the bottom of the stand offs. I felt like the silver ones didn’t allow for enough movement.

[stone flax]

release the screws a bit

or remove some of the less necessary ones

[daring valve]

I’ll tell you what. I’m a sucker for a carrying case for my keyboards lolol

[spice plover]

I think I figured it out

I just put the little black things ALL the way near the screw side and screw ‘em in pretty hard

[prime ridge]

How is the stem wobble on the Raw HE switches by GEON?

[glacial wind]

Among best of any stock he switch so far

[prime ridge]

Mmm gotcha. Thanks for letting me know!

I'm also looking at the TTC King and the Kailh Green Hornet

They all seem pretty good

[daring valve]

that's a pretty good idea.

I am content with mine in the middle.

[prime ridge]

From the looks of it and I really like the crisp sound profile of the TTC switches

[tawdry tree]

You found a place that sells the Green Hornet separately?

[prime ridge]

No but, I'm interested in them if I do happen to find them sold serparately.

[spice plover]

Bro holy shit nah I found the ultimate. Put one closest to the screw and than stack one more on top of it and screw it in just enough the metal leaflet will never get out of the socket. THIS is BOUNCE

[tawdry tree]

The same, dual rails and all too.

[stone flax]

gateron b lazy when it comes to he so not a surprise

they just copy over the same systems from their mx

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[spice plover]

Bounce FR

I need more of these poron pads wtfff

[tawdry tree]

I’m guessing Jade Pro = Dual Rail Jades (scrapped Jade Mini N?), Jade Max = Dual Rail Jade recolor, then the silent one which doesn’t seem to be a Jade, so open bottom.

[stone flax]

sadly looks that way

[tawdry tree]

It’s a bit weird, the Jade Pro’s top housing both is and isn’t a 20U top housing. All the other switches do have a 20U top housing except for the Jade Pros.

Maybe it is a bit more different or maybe just a bad render.

Silent ones with a travel of 3.7mm 💀

Don’t know what to make of that lmao

[stone flax]

uhh

not closed bottom ?

idk whats keeping them

From atleast detracting from how short these travels are

Atp its just laze

[untold wigeon]

Greatest orange juice you will ever taste.

[tawdry tree]

I think it is still open bottom but maybe the silicone inserts in the bottom housing limit travel???? I’m not sure. Or it’s a closed bottom with a shorter stem but I don’t see gateron adjusting their molds when they can just reuse the same one for eternity.

[fluid ravine]

Where's the video!!!!

raaaaa

@harsh dove sry for ping again but, unlubing the top housing was best decision so far

board is sounding better

[dry obsidian]

Anybody know of any hmx Hall effect switches?

[flat cobalt]

What's the 1 ingredient

[fluid ravine]

Nope

They dont make HE switches

[dry obsidian]

Dang

Hmx clack is my favorite sound

I feel like they would make a great sounding he switch

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-slice-and-dice-fruit-salad-citrus-your-an-apple-gif-24348751

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

The Olivia build has HMX Canglans

And the sound test below is the RAW HE

it's just a comparison on how the RAW HE sounds compared to a MX switch

In comparison, the RAW he just has more bass in the sound profile comparing to the HMX canglans

[stone flax]

ngl

u use one hmx u used all hmx

gets tiring

[fluid ravine]

Yeah they all sound similar no?

Just each one has a different pitch in terms of volume and all that am i right?

[stone flax]

Almost all of them have that same sound signature given tiny variations in depth and pitch

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[stone flax]

with exception to maybe snowcrashes?

Which are practically only hmx in name

[fluid ravine]

i need a mx build with HMX

[spice plover]

I am figuring out this bounce stuff.

[fringe quarry]

any new wooting compatible gateron he switches for sale?

[fringe quarry]

tactile 😳

also who updates that graphic / where do new versions get shared?

[uneven cradle]

The graphics are made by Calslock and the data gets updated here pretty regularly by Thockfather(Wootfather) #🪛│modding_faq message

[prisma stump]

My ears are pleased

[fluid ravine]

i feel like there should be more or much softer just from perspective, prob cus of the rgb deceiving my eyes

did you use case foam or smth?

[fluid ravine]

Yeah this is just a chart for people that has a phobia of spreadsheets

So all thanks to Calslock

[spice plover]

uhmmm no foam at the bottom

[spice plover]

maybe RGB cause im just tapping the asd keys and its moving like that

maybe i can get more but i KNOW if i double stack the silicon pad under leaf plates inserts this will look like a purple spice twerk montage

[arctic matrix]

If I put Geon Raptor switches on my Wooting keyboard, will I need any modifications or will it cause any problems?

[ashen karma]

Is it weird owning multiple keyboards with only 1 pc? I’ve been thinking to buy a different one but feels like it’s a waste of money

[stone flax]

you are sane

[ashen karma]

Dang are you a seller lol

[stone flax]

not me, just to illustrate that youre all good with two boards lols

[prime orbit]

So close 🥹

Although my case won’t be here till probably sep 3rd 😭😭

[stone elbow]

You can match every keycap set in the world, that's crazy

[fluid ravine]

Geon raptors are compatible with the wooting but you may need to adjust the actuation point in wootility as the magnets in the raptors are too strong. If you want to use 0.1mm for example, you would need to set the actuation to 0.3mm.

[fluid ravine]

There's nothing wrong with owning 2 boards, I think the average boards own for one person that has gone down the rabbit whole would be 2-4 keyboards. Unless you're like a money spending enthusiast that owns a bajillion

[paper bloom]

@untold wigeon Just got my RAW 60'

s

Theyre not bad but gotta get used to them as well as the movement and what not

[light agate]

hope you enjoy!

[neon tiger]

wht app is this

[prime orbit]

Shop app

[neon tiger]

geon raw hes ? 60 g ?

[neon tiger]

aight bet

[prime orbit]

Ye you can link email and Amazon. Then add any packages through tracking number

[paper bloom]

Yes i got it

[prime orbit]

Most websites use shop pay too

Pretty useful

[neon tiger]

aight bet

[neon tiger]

how isit ?

[neon tiger]

thanks brotha

[paper bloom]

its fucking poppy and great but i gotta get used to the weight tho

[prime orbit]

Ye

[neon tiger]

hmm i see

gonna be getting my first keyboard like EVER

and its the 60 he

before the 80 he

hence my many questions

[neon tiger]

is the 60 g too heavy ?

[paper bloom]

To me?

its not so bad im slowly getting used to it

[neon tiger]

to a average new keyboard user ?

[paper bloom]

But id prefer if it was lighter

[neon tiger]

ah i see

[paper bloom]

Just think of your switches as the mx reds thats somewhat of that feeling

If youre a first time user

For HE boards

You'll try the L60s first if u got the module id say get GEON RAW HE's with 40-50G

60G if youre into heavy switches and a bit more of a poppy switch

[neon tiger]

i see

i am a pretty big guy i have big hands

i guess 60 g is good ?

[paper bloom]

yea its good

[neon tiger]

or should i wait for my 60 he to arrive first

[paper bloom]

But don't expect so much for speed

[neon tiger]

before i order geon raw hes

[paper bloom]

get the 50G

[neon tiger]

oh shit fr ?

[paper bloom]

its actually way better

[neon tiger]

fr ? aight bet

[paper bloom]

Yea for me im a fast typer at

L45's

Then when i just swapped over

I peak lesser

[neon tiger]

gonna be playing lots of valorant

u think the geon raw hes are good ?

[paper bloom]

DEADASS

Bro

Its good

[neon tiger]

aight bet

[paper bloom]

50G's or 45

[neon tiger]

was thinking of the raptor hes

[paper bloom]

Don't get raptors

They overload the sensor

[neon tiger]

ah ok

so geon raw hes 50 g

got it

thanks for the insight

is 60 g VERY tight ?

[paper bloom]

Na it aint bout the tightness more of the down in

Imagine if youre stopping you press another key

If you got a faster key you can go faster stopping power

Unlike the 60g Youre 2 seconds slower

Until youre good at it

[neon tiger]

so the weight determines the speed ? wow thats interesting

[paper bloom]

Its always been like that

[neon tiger]

never had a keyboard, thanks man

[paper bloom]

I legit have issues crouching with the 60 grams

[neon tiger]

very very interesting

[paper bloom]

Cuz theyre all so stiff to me

Like i said i am used to the L%6

L45's*

[neon tiger]

right

[deft turtle]

idk if im biased or not because i dont have the geon switches. but i kinda prefer the sound of the lekkers compared to geon raw

[neon tiger]

you in sea server for wuthering ?

[paper bloom]

Ye

[neon tiger]

aight bet

[paper bloom]

But i aint on for

WUWA anymore

[little glen]

If you have strong fingers weight doesnt matter that much

[paper bloom]

Stopped a bit

[neon tiger]

ah no worries

valo sea ?

[paper bloom]

Follow this

@neon tigerVALO SEA

SG,Indo,HK

[neon tiger]

holy shit amazing

rank tho ?

[deft turtle]

geon sound to high picked for me

[paper bloom]

Sil 2

Hard stuck

Cuz of team mates

[neon tiger]

ok thats good

can add u

[paper bloom]

Sure

[neon tiger]

was about to say

if u immortal

[paper bloom]

Gotta find it

[neon tiger]

nah im sorry

[paper bloom]

I got friends that are immortal

Immo 3

[neon tiger]

yeah that aint my level

LOL

[paper bloom]

I was sil 3

[neon tiger]

fr ?

[paper bloom]

Last episode

[neon tiger]

i do have strong fingers

[paper bloom]

Trust me just get the 50

[neon tiger]

thats the hardest elo LOL

[paper bloom]

They tire you hard

[paper bloom]

I had a 5 stack and so on

[steep cape]

does it feel weird with the lighter weights?

[paper bloom]

Nope

[little glen]

Ive never felt tired from keyboard switches ngl

[paper bloom]

But you'll bottom out quick

[neon tiger]

fkk

[paper bloom]

I do when gaming espcially games like siege or val

[neon tiger]

then maybe the 60g ?

[paper bloom]

Cuz i move a lot to bait

[paper bloom]

get 50

[neon tiger]

fk i dunno

[paper bloom]

im not even capping

[neon tiger]

fr ?

[paper bloom]

Fr

[neon tiger]

aight bet aight bet

[halcyon rune]

fr any bottom out is really good

[neon tiger]

50 g IT IS !!

[paper bloom]

You legit got a right spot for it and a soft spot

[neon tiger]

gonna use geon raw hes for both 60 he and 80 he u guys think thats a good idea ? orrrrr ?

[paper bloom]

Im running L60's and this thing hits a 45 gram down intiial

Initial*

[ionic breach]

try both out

[paper bloom]

So long as u get a 80 pack for the 80 and the 60 and u dont damage it yea youre good to go

[ionic breach]

its preference after all

[neon tiger]

YO am about to finish the wires and everything sending u a dm later btw

[neon tiger]

u mean switch both ?

like use geon raw hes for both ?

[ionic breach]

ya you got the lekkers too right?

[paper bloom]

Lemme dm you the acc valorant name rq

[neon tiger]

aight bet

[neon tiger]

it comes with the

keyboard yeah

[deft turtle]

did the geon raw he just come out?

[neon tiger]

so i think i will wait till the keyboard arrives before ordering geon raw hes

[ionic breach]

yup you can try all 3 out then

[deft turtle]

cant find many videos on youtube about it

[paper bloom]

Yea it did its quite a recent thing

[ionic breach]

since there are one L45 included in the 80he

not sure about the 60he

[paper bloom]

The v2's

[deft turtle]

whats the hype about it?

[paper bloom]

If i am not wrong

Are close to on par with the RAW

[neon tiger]

hmmm ok

[paper bloom]

Better sound less wobbly

[neon tiger]

the best switches now are the

[deft turtle]

is it like a performance thing or just becasue its the new thing ™️

[paper bloom]

and better movement

[neon tiger]

GEON RAW HE right

thats why i wanna use it for both

[paper bloom]

GEON RAW, Jades

Idk about the L2

[paper bloom]

No lol its not about performance its lesser wobble

[deft turtle]

i dont really like the sound of the geon raw tbh compared to the lekker

[paper bloom]

The weight in the switches are what determine the performance and the person going into the game and what not

[deft turtle]

i dont really mind the wobble on my lekkers tbh

[ionic breach]

neither do i

[paper bloom]

You can run other stuff

[ionic breach]

i prefer lekkers over jades and raws lmao

[deft turtle]

yeah i'm just gonna keep my lekkers

[neon tiger]

FR ?

[paper bloom]

ive been running L45's theyre nice

[ionic breach]

preference

[neon tiger]

ah shit imma wait for the keyboard to arrive first then.....

[paper bloom]

But the sound and preference all differ and what not

[neon tiger]

BUT if i do wanna try something new

ordering the 50 g raw hes

so should i go 50 g for all future switches ? @paper bloom

[paper bloom]

45-50

[deft turtle]

kinda tempted to buy this since its on sale

[neon tiger]

aight bet

what about stabs ?

yall know anything about it ?

[paper bloom]

The ones on the wooting is enough

Infact any of the stabs are good just don't get TX AP

Stabs

[neon tiger]

@paper bloom dood its hard to find a SEA guy modding stuff. what do you mod on your keyboard

tell me more pls

[paper bloom]

Cuz it won't fit the wooting plate

[neon tiger]

ok

[paper bloom]

I used to mod with a tofu 60 with a burger mount and went from a PC to a STEEL PLATE

From the prebuilds that are out there

[neon tiger]

oh fr ? i am actually

gonna switch my 60 he steel plate to pc plate

think that helps ?

[paper bloom]

For sound

yea

LOl

But it aint that good honestly

[neon tiger]

why u change to steel plate

[deft turtle]

im happy i found someone to mod my keyboard near me

[paper bloom]

Didnt like the PC going to limp on me when i pull out switches or keycaps

or screws

[neon tiger]

amazing

[paper bloom]

Since the PC is flexible and tough but ive broken PC stuff before

[neon tiger]

so i assume u bought the 60 he module

[paper bloom]

and i dont wanna do it

[paper bloom]

Module and prebuild

[neon tiger]

u have 2 ?

tf

[paper bloom]

I technically have

4

[neon tiger]

ah shit should i cancel my pc plate order

LOL

[paper bloom]

i gave away 2

[neon tiger]

i emailed them to add it into my order

[paper bloom]

na its fine

[neon tiger]

bruh WHAT

[paper bloom]

Keep it

If you don't like it then no point and yea

nothing new about that

[neon tiger]

give it to me then LOL

[paper bloom]

I WISH ITS ALRDY GIVEN AWAY

AS A BDAY FIFT

[neon tiger]

i mean its my first time

[paper bloom]

GIFT*

[neon tiger]

so i dunno about keyboards LOL

[paper bloom]

Just fuck around and find out

[neon tiger]

i just want it to sound the most thockiest

i even bought lubes

[paper bloom]

Did you get the brush set?

[neon tiger]

dood we could video call after we valorant, guide me on keyboard moddings and shit man

like tape mod and shi

[neon tiger]

yeah

[paper bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8&t=596s

I won't video call i'll just use discord call

[neon tiger]

sure

i mean

i have to show u my keyboard

[paper bloom]

But i'll be out running 6km

[neon tiger]

so i have no choice

LOL

[paper bloom]

You can take a pic if you want

[neon tiger]

isnt a step by step guide better

LIVE

[paper bloom]

Nope

It actually isn't

[neon tiger]

oh ok

[paper bloom]

You'd legit feel nervous af

[neon tiger]

ah ok

[neon tiger]

when it arrives

i will try modding

[paper bloom]

Sure

[neon tiger]

any names for the tape brand ?

[paper bloom]

Just take it slow tho

[neon tiger]

burger mounts ?

[paper bloom]

Painters tape should work

[neon tiger]

best case out there ?

[paper bloom]

burger mounts is justa O ring

best case theres none

Its just ergonomics and the sound and design rlly

I swapped out of my tofu 60

[neon tiger]

i will have to look into lazada shopee

hmmm

[paper bloom]

To a stock one cuz of my left

[neon tiger]

left what

[paper bloom]

Wrist being too tired from all the typing and constant work

[neon tiger]

oh shit

so u have a tofu 60 just lying around ?

and u went back to stock 60 he ?

thats crazyy

[paper bloom]

Thats when you know my left wrist is tired and ergo problems

[neon tiger]

so the tofu 60 is a NONO

[paper bloom]

People have told me to use the wrist rest i said no

[paper bloom]

Its a YES YES for some

its a NO NO for me because i get pains

[neon tiger]

oh

[paper bloom]

without the wrist rest and it feels with it

And i angle my board

[neon tiger]

damn

ok lets see...

[paper bloom]

BUT

I do have some plan to change out

To a tofu

Again if the switches i find hinder my gaming speed

Just so that i can ensure i get the best of both worlds

[neon tiger]

shi i dunno man

just tryna fidn the best best best case out there

[paper bloom]

Aint no such thing as the best of the best

Its what you work with that makes it the best of the best

[neon tiger]

i see

but like

definitely there will be a super comfortable one

and sleek one right

[paper bloom]

Yes

[neon tiger]

i heard someone said frog mini ?

ion know man

[paper bloom]

Aint gon wrk

U need a custom plate

[neon tiger]

oh fk

[drifting bronze]

Guys does the brass case for the uwu make a difference in loudness because i really like the feel of my uwu but it is super loud with my jades

[little glen]

Jades are loud

Just dont bottom out

[drifting bronze]

Yea thats the thing i do bottom out 😂

[copper glade]

yo whats good, does anyone else have the black knights? i just got them cause they are the cheapest switches, i dont really care about sound because i actually like the lekkers i just want reduced stem wobble so idk

do you guys think they were a good choice since i dont really care about sound, i just want less wobble and no stab rattle

[copper glade]

ill take ur tofu 60 LMAO

[paper bloom]

You legit don't wanna trust me

LMAO

[copper glade]

?

[paper bloom]

And if i sold you the entire set and if you don't like how the tofu is well the color you could always get a new one for cheaper while retaining the existing weight bar but still not worth it

[copper glade]

lmao

[paper bloom]

My case's paint is chipped off the stand off points paint has been scratched from the constant modding

[copper glade]

ill take it for free 😉

just to yk

help u get rid of ur junk

[paper bloom]

"Borrow" i wish i can give it for free

[copper glade]

free of charge

[paper bloom]

LOL

[copper glade]

ill even pay for the PRICEY PRICEY shipping 😉

[paper bloom]

But na this ones mine sadly

[copper glade]

[paper bloom]

You may as well pay me 50 and id cover the shipping

For the sake of it

LOOOL

[copper glade]

50 usd?

[paper bloom]

SGD

But like i said i can't sell it as of rn

I wish i can tho but na never

Not yet

[copper glade]

i live in Australia

[paper bloom]

WELL ISNT THAT BETTER?

[copper glade]

YES

[paper bloom]

Thats like what

60 AUD

[copper glade]

lmao

[paper bloom]

Im from Singapore

[copper glade]

nice

[paper bloom]

Ye

[copper glade]

u seen these switches?

oh wait

wrong thing lol

[paper bloom]

Which one>?

[copper glade]

lemme copy the link

[paper bloom]

Sure

[copper glade]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007395004176.html

ik they dont have closed bottom, i just want cheap switches with no stem wobble (less than lekker) and apparently these will do the job

[paper bloom]

Get GEON raptor RAW

See if you can get it for cheap or not

[copper glade]

to expensive for me rn

[paper bloom]

Wait how much?

[copper glade]

they like double the price

[paper bloom]

BRUH

I got it for cheap

LOL

[copper glade]

they are 70 aud

my black knighjts i ordered are only 30 aud

[paper bloom]

I got it for 42 AUD

For the Raptor Geon RAW 60G

[copper glade]

from where?

[paper bloom]

For a pack of 70

Singapore

[copper glade]

link me lol

[paper bloom]

If you got friends from singapore

[copper glade]

oh true true

[paper bloom]

https://ktechs.store/collections/hall-effect/products/raw-hall-effect-linear-gaming-switches-by-geonworks

I got mine for that price is cuz i didnt pay for delievery

I just went there to do self collection

[copper glade]

55 aud

[paper bloom]

Rn theyre on sale

[copper glade]

yeah

[paper bloom]

But its up to you

[copper glade]

lemme see what shiupping is

thats why

shipping is more than the swithces themself

LMAO

[paper bloom]

BRUIH

How much is it ?

[copper glade]

41 SDG

cheapest shippinh

[paper bloom]

BRUH

[copper glade]

yeahj

ill stick with my black knights for now

cheap solution

[paper bloom]

You could check up on jades

But they got lesser wobble than the Lekkers

From as i am aware

[copper glade]

still expensive ish, black knights are just cheapest solution for the wobble, i dont really care about sound tbh

its just the wobble causes stab rattle

and I HATE stab rattle

[paper bloom]

Ah then id recommend waiting on the lekker v2 then

Welp i gtg outside

[paper bloom]

it doesnt affect me as much

[copper glade]

yeah maybe lol, i already ordered black knights and they cheap anyways so if i dont like them ill just get something else

its all preferance anyways

[paper bloom]

Yea

Anyway gtg see you later and peace

[copper glade]

alr have a good one

[hollow parrot]

What Aus store you buy from? So hard to find local stuff. Shipping is $$$$$

[copper glade]

aliexpress is my current go to as its always the cheapest for AUS

my black knights are only 30 aud from ali express for 70 switches

[uneven cradle]

if you're in aus cafege will probably get stock soon - or alternatively you can get them shipped from kiwiclack

[hollow parrot]

Good ol Ali ❤️

[copper glade]

yeah

ty

ill get these black knights and let yall know hwo they are

they might be really good considering the price

[paper bloom]

U 2

[flat cobalt]

Looks cool!

[tacit loom]

thank u

[paper bloom]

Nice hutao keycaps

@copper glade u cld always do frakenmods

[latent kraken]

fuuuuuuuuuuck I missed out

😭

[hexed knot]

What are the fastest actuation force switches for wooting?

[ionic breach]

none

[calm pulsar]

its already fast at 0.1mm with any switch lol

[hexed knot]

Talking bout the actuation force

[glacial wind]

That would be spring swapping to the lightest he spring you can find

Wooting sells some that are 35g if you want to go that low

That’s insanely low though so be warned

[atomic bloom]

are the stab stems in the jade switch box meant to be used? since the jades only have 3.5mm travel instead of the 4mm?

[hexed knot]

Idk how to swap springs tho

I'm acoustic

[lone plume]

omg my childhood drink! that very fun keycap

[glacial wind]

You don’t have to swap it in if you have no wobbling issues

It’s there in case you have the issue or just prefer long pole stabs for long pole switches

[atomic bloom]

fair enough, i bought long pole switches in preparation for the jade switches, but if i had known there were stems included i would not have bought them i think

but i'll see what i prefer, thanks!

[exotic inlet]

do raptor switches affect too much led lightning because of their transparent red housing?

[deft turtle]

upon second listen. i think im starting to like wuque's dash switch's sound more than lekkers

[ocean widget]

And im just thinking about getting the RAW he switches

[deft turtle]

i dont like the sound of the raw he switches that much

[ocean widget]

I rarely care about sound

[deft turtle]

sound is the more important part to me tbh

and i guess how it performs in actual games

i really dont mind stem wobble

well this is my first mechanical keyboard so.... take that with a grain of salt

[untold wigeon]

That sounds so different. It’s like it wants to clack and thock at the same time

[deft turtle]

wait are the wuque dashes actually just recolors of gateron jades?

my ass was not paying attention 💀

[ocean widget]

To be honest im playing with iem’s so i dont hear my keyboard at all

[deft turtle]

i play without headphones

[ocean widget]

Yeah its really bad bc i speaking with friends on teamspeak or discord so

[deft turtle]

fair enough

[glacial wind]

Dashes are just jades correct

[marsh stratus]

How many keys does the wooting have, and how good are the raw he switches?

[ionic breach]

slight difference i think

maybe, not sure

[glacial wind]

They’re good. What do you want to know about them?

[marsh stratus]

Ooh, I was just making sure, they're good planning on buying some of those switches, don't know, how many i need through. lol

[glacial wind]

For 60he?

[marsh stratus]

yeah

[glacial wind]

Most buy like 65 to have a few spares

[deft turtle]

why do ppl think the raw he is good? just the stem wobble?

[glacial wind]

Wobble and sound

[marsh stratus]

65 switches?

[ocean widget]

Yeah

[ionic breach]

yes

[marsh stratus]

I'll probably buy 10 spares.

[glacial wind]

Yeah 65 switches. You technically only need like 61 but 4 spare is plenty

[marsh stratus]

Just in case, something happens in shipping. alr will buy 4

[ocean widget]

I need some raw he switches but its too expensive bc of shipping

[glacial wind]

I’m glad all the wooting mod stuff is cheapest in Korea because it’s all Korean companies lol

[deft turtle]

https://youtu.be/zmssZ6hh5ds?t=86 yall think this vid is a good representation of what the raw he sounds like

[glacial wind]

Knight stabs, raw he both Korean brands

His sound is a bit overly boosted

[deft turtle]

what about the signature and general pitch?

[glacial wind]

I mean that’s going to be very different based on the mic every time

[ionic breach]

very boosted

+20

[deft turtle]

fair point

[ocean widget]

[deft turtle]

oof 22 dollars

[glacial wind]

Raw he is basically a slightly clacky clean sound

[deft turtle]

i would buy the sticky rice switch but the guide says not compatible

[neon tiger]

30 for me

[deft turtle]

also im not entirely sure what the (see notes) addendum refers to

[clear dagger]

Anyone know if the normal prebuilt 60he has removable keycaps ?

[neon tiger]

Gonna order em, after I hear how the lekker sounds

[ionic breach]

yes

[clear dagger]

Ty ty

[ionic breach]

what keycaps arent removable?

[glacial wind]

Well we have lekker sound tests already if you watch the 80he video sander did

Those are using v2 lekkers

[neon tiger]

It's always different in ur hands right ?

[ionic breach]

i mean laptop keycaps are removable

[neon tiger]

And besides it's my first keyboard ever. Both 60 he and 80 he

[deft turtle]

well i can always buy switches another time

i'm gonna buy pbtfans keycaps now while theyre on sale

[ionic breach]

really?

the clearance ones?

[deft turtle]

theres a vendor having them on sale

base kit

[ionic breach]

which?

[neon tiger]

Yeah 25 dollar shipping

[deft turtle]

i can dm you link

[neon tiger]

Sounds about right

[deft turtle]

but theyre based in SEA

[neon tiger]

Are these nice bro ?

[deft turtle]

i trust pbtfans and i like the dark/blue color scheme

[ionic breach]

nah i know it dw

[glacial wind]

If you’re na honestly just wait for divinikey to restock raw he

Saves you a lot in shipping

[deft turtle]

[ocean widget]

Meanwhile EU

[glacial wind]

God bless geon for putting local prices cheapest

[deft turtle]

they have their own website?

[glacial wind]

I think my raw he were $30 including shipping for 90 lol

[neon tiger]

Get TRANSPARENT ONES

[ionic breach]

why would geon need to bless himself?

[deft turtle]

ew no

[glacial wind]

Yeah Korea and international is totally different site

[deft turtle]

ah i forgot you live in korea

[neon tiger]

What about sea ? Just order from geon huh ?

[glacial wind]

Yeah sea is just international site

The Korean site is only Koreans and you have to use Korean payment method

[neon tiger]

So just order from geons website ?

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[ionic breach]

uhh

[cyan zodiac]

there us a global website

[ionic breach]

ktech?

[neon tiger]

Aighjt bet

[cyan zodiac]

and a korean only website

for geon

[marsh stratus]

Why are raw he effects cheaper than most mechanic switches like the other switch, I was lookin at was a normal mx cherry (stem) whatever, and cost liked $1.25 per switch. o_O

[neon tiger]

For sg ?

[deft turtle]

Actually yeah why IS it cheaper

[glacial wind]

Because geon makes them oem and he never pumps up profit margin that much

[ionic breach]

shipping is 4 dollars for ktech

[marsh stratus]

oh

[neon tiger]

DAFUQ

[deft turtle]

For sg people….

[neon tiger]

OK drakon u from sg too ?

[ionic breach]

yea

[cyan zodiac]

what switch you looking like cost 1.25?

[neon tiger]

VALO ?

[ionic breach]

no lmao

[neon tiger]

Fuck me

[ionic breach]

quit it long ago

[neon tiger]

Peak rank ?

[ionic breach]

plat idk

[deft turtle]

I live in the same time zone as sg and it costs 30 sgd to ship here

[neon tiger]

Ah nice not bad

[ionic breach]

played it a bit when it first came out

[neon tiger]

Hahahahahahaha

[ionic breach]

left soon after

[glacial wind]

I just came from valo arena

[neon tiger]

Crazzyyyy

U play valo ?

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[neon tiger]

Dayum

Can sg play with u ?

[ionic breach]

ping

[glacial wind]

Nah Koreans only play in kr server lol

[ionic breach]

70ms ish

[neon tiger]

Fuck me im done

Im done

First drakon

Now sno

No one can play with me man

[glacial wind]

Well technically Koreans can also make sea accounts but who wants to play 60ping when I can play with 5 ping

[neon tiger]

[cyan zodiac]

wtb kr internet

[glacial wind]

Improve your mental by playing solo

If you get to immortal solo then you qualify to become a saint

[neon tiger]

Hm Ok lol

[ocean widget]

maybe its me but valo ranked is meh LMAO

[celest parrot]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-jade-pro-switch-set

Is this new switch compatible with wooting's keyboards?

[ionic breach]

Lekkers V3 Pro Hyperspeed Ultra when?

[ionic breach]

maybe

have to test

but most likely

[glacial wind]

Should be, but we have no sound tests or specs on how it’s better than normal jades still

[celest parrot]

Who's usually testing these

[glacial wind]

If all they improved was stability of the magnet then that’s pretty disappointing for a ‘pro’

[celest parrot]

Yeah it sucks to wait I wanna see if these are better or the raw he

[ionic breach]

same price is it not?

[glacial wind]

Have to wait for reviewers to have it in hands

[deft turtle]

what does the "(see notes)" thing mean in the switch compatiblity chart? #🪛│modding_faq message

[celest parrot]

Like I only care about sound and the feel so I don't know which switch is better for me

[glacial wind]

Realistically wobble wise I don’t think you’ll find any future switches that are much different than raw he there

Because I think you’re kind of hitting max tolerance you can do for a stock switch stem at this point

[ionic breach]

ignore

[celest parrot]

But I only heard good things about the raw he

[ionic breach]

but usually it means that magnet is too strong

[celest parrot]

Understood

[ionic breach]

the notes are not findable

[deft turtle]

damn i liked the sound of the sticky rice but i guess its not gonna be good for the wooting

[glacial wind]

Future improvements will probably be more in sound than anything else since I think we’re hitting endgame for wobble

[celest parrot]

They have Jades pro and max it is starting to get confusing lol

[cyan zodiac]

assuming they follow the same journey as mx then yes

most likely they will do milky tops

or p3 or ly materials

or whatever is the next new material

[glacial wind]

At least they didn’t put in the useless dual rail thing it seems

That whole dual rail saga was the biggest marketing con ever

The dual rail switches weren’t any tighter than the non dual rail versions

[deft turtle]

eh i'm not in a rush to replace my switches

i like the lekker's sound

[cyan zodiac]

waiting for gat to make milky top HE switches

it seems like that will be their next move

going from the popular from milky top yellow

[celest parrot]

Hahaha yeah I agree

[cyan zodiac]

or gat yellow pro

[glacial wind]

I’m curious to see what eventually happens with wootings custom switch they’re making

[mental salmon]

Did you already see this: https://x.com/gateronofficial/status/1827271572144452072?s=46

GATERON (@GATERONOfficial) on X

We're excited to announce that pre-orders for our newest product are now open——Magnetic Jade Pro Swtich.
It's get soft and bouncy feel, special magnetic stem formula. Get your early access!

Link here:https://t.co/t4zF5yyp5H

#gateron #magneticjadepro #mangeticswitch

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 9:07 AM

[celest parrot]

I hope they release it when the 80 he start shipping

[ionic breach]

scroll up

[deft turtle]

why do people care so much about stem wobble?

its not like you're gonna see it when you type

[cyan zodiac]

you feel the stem wobble when you type

[glacial wind]

I think it’s a ways off still

[deft turtle]

when did the raw he release

cant find many videos on youtube for a sound test

[ionic breach]

how lmao

[glacial wind]

Yeah you can feel the stem wobbling as you type and it also creates a plastic chatter sound that many folks find unpleasant

[cyan zodiac]

didn't someone just link

a video

[ionic breach]

ur algorithm is fked

[deft turtle]

ive only found like 7/8 videos

[glacial wind]

They’re only recent in last couple months

[deft turtle]

eh more will pop up in the coming weeks i guess

[glacial wind]

I mean we have plenty of them already

Not really much else to show for them

There’s a ton of videos in this discord channel too for them

[deft turtle]

Am I just putting in the wrong search terms on YouTube 😭

[glacial wind]

https://youtu.be/79RcRFiSKm0?si=uzOh7-0_zEe1XbW9

What more do you need really

[deft turtle]

Watched that

I like looking at different videos to get more info

People got different cases and mods

The more sources the better I say

[glacial wind]

The sound is basically very close to jades but the stem tolerances are better and as tight as you’re going to find in stock switches

[cyan zodiac]

^

[deft turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-anime-gif-21175096

[cyan zodiac]

some people like the jade more in terms of sound

so up to you

[polar girder]

Gotcha. Ty

[cold bloom]

I'm confused on what the difference is, is it mostly just improved tolerances?

[tawdry tree]

There is no fucking way the only difference of the Jade Pros is top housing and spring.

I pray for them that the top housing has slightly tighter tolerances.

[floral robin]

will ineed to buy stabilizers if i buy geon raw he switches with my gmk switches for wooting 80he

[tawdry tree]

No.

If the GMK keycaps are genuine, then no.

[floral robin]

yes i have gmk kitsune genuine

[cold bloom]

the top housing is still PC tho idk if it's even different

unless I'm missing something on the listing page

[tawdry tree]

You can see the diffuser on the top housing is curved, similar to that of the 20U’s.

[cold bloom]

ohh okay, prob won't change much sound wise but hopefully the tolerances are also improved

also curious if the new spring is less pingy stock

[fading cove]

just switched to wooting 60 and superlight 2 today from controller. any tips to improve in fortnite to kbm

[ocean widget]

play more

[fading cove]

btw im on 800 dpi and have to play 16% on both x and y to be normal speed

[celest parrot]

Holy sound it is so good

I just hope the new jade max and pro produce more impressive sound than the raw he

[tawdry tree]

The Jade Pros indeed have a different brand new top housing, neither a KS-20 nor KS-20U. The silent ones are indeed open bottom.

“Provincial flow: Magnetic Jade Pro: taking over the magnetic jade shaft and becoming a new high-end magnetic shaft (the original magnetic jade positioning is slightly lowered), mass production has been promoted, and the hand feel and sound performance have improved significantly, very close to the performance of conventional mechanical shafts with the same key range. Magnetic Jade Max: a signature product (about equivalent to TTC dragon shaft type), no plans for mass production keyboard, retail reference price is expected to be 7 yuan, the hand feel is almost the same as Magnetic Jade Pro, but fully transparent (Tiffany shaft material). Magnetic Jade Mini: Uphy is the first release, the key range is not short, the rebound is good, the bottom touch is solid, the hand feel can be bent with Kaihua full POM low shaft, and the sound is slightly inferior. Silent Magnetic Shaft: dual track bottom structure, with added cushioning on the upper and lower covers. Rubber, with a complete tactile type of shaft body, the noise reduction effect is not particularly strong. Rumor has it that Jiadalong will have affordable magnetic shafts entering the market, Provide players and users with a more affordable entry threshold while maintaining the same quality”

[celest parrot]

Just play more eventually you'll get used to it

[tawdry tree]

Is there a site that can translate text in videos?

[tawdry tree]

The noise reduction effect is not particularly strong. 🫡🫡🫡

[paper bloom]

Just slowly practice and take it slow atleast youre not running a very heavy switch

[harsh dove]

Yeah I kinda like it lol, it’s Tofu w/ Weight, Polyfill, PC Plate w/ Foam Pad, 40A Friction Mount, GMK Redacted (ABS), Wooting Plate Mount Stabs, and Neo Lavenders (hand-lubed)

[old swallow]

aah crap

more switches i gotta buy

[untold wigeon]

It came out really nice

[prisma stump]

Any good looking ABS keycaps to match a white case? Current keycaps Ive been looking at might be out of stock by the time I have money to spend

I have $150 budget

[old swallow]

i would suggest X-ray, but i think those sold out for the next pre order already

[untold wigeon]

Drop is having a buy one get one free on keycap sets. There’s a bunch in there.

Edit: sorry ended midnight last night

[prisma stump]

From pbtfans?

[old swallow]

yh

[prisma stump]

Yeah theyre gone everywhere

[old swallow]

you might be able to get some for the pre order on some vendors, but idk where youre from

[prisma stump]

Not paying for aftermarket keycaps they be having some bs prices to take advantage of desperate ppl

[prisma stump]

US

[stone flax]

any jade pro sound tests

or no

[old swallow]

hmm, idk what US vendors they use

[stone flax]

omnitype

kbdfans

Wait kbd is global lol

[old swallow]

yeah ahah

[stone flax]

divinikey

[old swallow]

both of those have the pre orders sold out

[prisma stump]

I just want some good looking keycaps that arent plain as hell

These were the one’s i was looking at that will be out of stock soon

[old swallow]

i mean, that could be everything haha

soul blossom

is pretty nice

[prisma stump]

I just mean like basic black or white or just basic fonts

[stone elbow]

i had one of the last few x-rays from omnitype

[prisma stump]

Xrays look unique tho

Problem is that they’re already sold out lol

[stone flax]

xrays look bad

[prisma stump]

In terms of actually being able to read the keycaps yes, in terms of aesthetics and wanting more flair with your rgb no

[stone flax]

heehee

[old swallow]

looks over function

[stone elbow]

reading the legends is not too bad actually

[old swallow]

yeah, pictures dont do it justice

[stone elbow]

much easier in person

[prisma stump]

Why I prefer non shine throughs lol even though shine throughs would benefit in the dark

[old swallow]

yeah, true

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-talk-about-such-things-joey-gladstone-dave-coulier-fuller-house-we-dont-mention-that-gif-17868280

[untold wigeon]

I thought I was alone in this.

[stone flax]

u are not

its just a fad

[prisma stump]

I like the way pbtfans desigm their keycaps, might be a while before they make another set with colors I like :(

[old swallow]

i wasnt PBTFans BoG R2, where they do it with the simple base

[ionic breach]

they dont lmao

[prisma stump]

That explains so much inconsistency in designs

[ionic breach]

just a vendor

[prisma stump]

Ive been looking at these keycaps but Im not sure if I’d like pbt over abs. What I do know is that abs helps with thock and my brain likes thock

[thorn zealot]

I thought it’s the other way around

Pbt for thock

[prisma stump]

Oh srsly??? Damn I suck at research lol

[prisma stump]

Makes me want these keycaps more since they’re only $40

[stone flax]

not really

if anything

opposite lol

pbt is denser

and u can see these 1.7mm pbt sets floating around

[sweet oak]

Hmm, i know im gonna use my kkb Alhambra on my 80 raw case. But using it on the concrete grey 60 for now would probably look really good…

Thoughts?

[prisma stump]

Honestly hard to know? It’d probably be better to have the raw zinc alloy physically in person to make a decision since its not out yet

[sweet oak]

Yeah, its more that i just wanna see how they’ll look in the concrete grey first

[prisma stump]

Cant say anything myself since I don’t have any experience with custom keebs
Already kinda stressed out knowing my favorite key cap sets are on limited stock when I literally dont have money

[sweet oak]

Understandable

[harsh dove]

https://thekeymachine.com/cdn/shop/files/003.REWIND-HERO.png?v=1723208786&width=4000
Rewind @stray tiger

[paper bloom]

@harsh doveI finally found my switches

Its the RAW HE

From GEON

Got it for 60g for 37 USD

LOOL

[harsh dove]

Bro you’re late

[paper bloom]

I know