🔧│keyboard_modding

[devout torrent]

would not do again lol

[fluid ravine]

haha

knew it

[static tendon]

The travel distance feels so short on the jades. It’s more noticeable than my cherry mx silvers. I’m not sure why that is. Maybe I got too used to the L45’s

[harsh dove]

Wait till you type on em for a couple weeks

[static tendon]

Yeah maybe. They sound miles better though

[harsh dove]

Springs need lube just as bad as Lavenders do

You’ll hear it eventually

It’s at the point where I don’t even wanna type on my Wooting rn lol

Cause of how bad the spring ping is on the Lavenders

Need to lube them but been too busy/lazy

[static tendon]

Oh yeah. It’ll take while to lube springs

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’re good for a few weeks to a month before you hear it

[untold wigeon]

Just got back from my second trip to the laser engraver.

[harsh dove]

At least in my experience

[fluid ravine]

Waitt waaat

isnt cherry mx silvers full travel distance like 3.4mm?

Jades are 3.5mm

[untold wigeon]

Jades are shorter travel. 3.5

[fluid ravine]

I'll do them!

[untold wigeon]

Well shorter than Lekkers

[fluid ravine]

:D

Lekkers has a travel distance of 4mm

[harsh dove]

Lubing springs is easy but I plan to do all the switches so more work lol

[static tendon]

Yeah exactly. I have them both side by side (jades and silvers) but for some reason it almost feels like the jades have less travel. Maybe it all just feels weird swapping from the L45s. I could be adjusting

[harsh dove]

I’ll try to remember to do a sound test before I lube them so you guys can hear it

Maybe today idk

I’ve been so lazy in doing it that I simply pull any switches that have spring ping and move them to keys on my board that I barely use lol

Cause obvs my WASD keys and around they got the spring ping first cause they’re used more

So I swapped them to the right side of the board lol

[fluid ravine]

oh if you're coming from the lekkers then that actually makes sense

[fluid ravine]

gonna 105 or 205?

or both

[harsh dove]

205 on the switches and superlube oil ISO 100-150 on the springs

[static tendon]

I believe the cherry mx silvers have less travel distance of 3.4 while jades have a 3.5 distance.

Yet keeping this in mind, jades feel like they stop earlier

[fluid ravine]

interesante

[pure magnet]

https://amzn.eu/d/cSAGR8E

You guys think I can put my desktop PC on this on the floor?

[lusty tinsel]

is the jade less heavier a lot compare with the L60 ?

[mossy thorn]

A lot lighter feeling yeah.

To the point I'd be worried about my keycaps weight causing then to actuate accidently if I had ceramics or something with similar heft.

[lusty tinsel]

sheesh

[mossy thorn]

I love it lol

[harsh dove]

Jades are 30+-7gf and end force is around 50g give or take

Lekkers are 45gf - 60gf

[lusty tinsel]

i wonder what is +-7 gf means ?

[untold wigeon]

Only key that’s not fine is the spacebar with Lekkers

I mean it needs the L60 spring

[untold wigeon]

The Dash is 55g and its too light

[harsh dove]

That’s actually incorrect

I have a email from Wuque saying that was incorrect listing

Cause I contacted them about it

[harsh dove]

It means plus or minus the given value

Think of it almost as margin of error

Meaning the switch can be anywhere between 23gf and 37gf

[harsh dove]

(WS Dashes)

[untold wigeon]

Interesting. I thought it felt no where near 55g

[cold bloom]

There seems to be a slight but noticeable difference in jades vs dashes from the brief sound tests I’ve seen on YouTube, I wonder if that’s just simply the factory lubing?

Assuming all else is the same from what I’ve seen and what wuque is saying

Jades with heavier springs are my fave switches I’ve tried tho, I love the feeling and the shorter travel sounds great

[fluid ravine]

May you provide a example?

[cold bloom]

One second I’ll find the video I saw

[cold bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgEftpVtYsE&t=358s

the sound tests are marked

I'm leaning towards assuming it's just a heavier factory lube, they sound a bit less loud on the rebound tho I think

bottom out is similar

[fluid ravine]

oh i see what you mean, you noticed that the dashes were a bit lower pitched than the jades?

[fluid ravine]

To be fair, MikeyTypes had his Gateron jades for like 4 months now, it could be broken in so the dashes he just received in that video would be still in its factory lubed state without being fully broken in.

[cold bloom]

Yeah

And true good point

Some one else mentioned they noticed a difference in sound too and idk if they saw that video so was curious

[fluid ravine]

but yeah still overall still the same switch otherwise

[cold bloom]

yeah exactly

[fluid ravine]

I don't know if there is any difference with the factory lubing but ye

[cold bloom]

I was just thinking it was the spring weight after I first saw that video but after Cams email post I was like hmm

[remote vault]

i dont understand anymore. some people saying we need to buy a different stabilizer when replacing lekker 60 with gateron jade and some say it just works. what is the correct answer? i just got my wooting last week

[fluid ravine]

lol

[cold bloom]

usually you don't

you can always test and order new stabs if there's issues

most don't seem to experience any issues, esp with the plate mounted stabs

[prime ridge]

Has there been any updates regarding the Raw case for the 80HE?

[fluid ravine]

Some people would say you need to replace the stabilizers with a long pole version like the TX AP Long pole stabilizer for example, but most of the time this problem doesn't really occur, it's not like a "need" thing that you have to do

[prime ridge]

At least from the last update video that we got on it.

[fluid ravine]

But if do notice it happening then sure get long pole stabs as you need

but it usually isn't suppose to happen

[cold bloom]

mine are all fine with Jades so far

spacebar doesn't move, I think it helps if your keycaps are tight onto the switch

if you had super loose keycaps it might be more prominent

[prime ridge]

I want to order one but, I'm mostly interested in the Raw case but, they said that they would try to make some final revisions to the finishing of the case.

[fluid ravine]

#🌟│wooting80he <-sry idk any info on that currently but you could ask in this chat for now

[cold bloom]

I really like the raw case, but I'm not a huge fan of the feet

[remote vault]

thanks

[fluid ravine]

Np

[cold bloom]

if I ever get an 80HE I might wait for some more cases

personally

[fluid ravine]

No chance in hell i would be getting a 80he

broke as shi

xD

[cold bloom]

same lmao

[remote vault]

gateron jades are cheaper with a difference of 5 ct a piece compared to the ws dash in my country. just get the gateron right?

[fluid ravine]

Sure! Since they are the same switches, just get the one that is cheaper!

W logic

Every penny counts (If pennies even matter in this day and age)

[prime ridge]

I don't know how I missed that chat category. Sorry about that I'll ask over there.

[cold bloom]

neo lavenders are a solid switch for cheaper too

[prime ridge]

As in aesthetics wise or functionality?

[cold bloom]

all nylon housing too

[harsh dove]

More than likely it’s just the sound test, take sound test with a grain of salt, there’s hundred of variables

[cold bloom]

I like the aesthetic of it, don't love the feet design

[fluid ravine]

No no problem! You can still ask the same question here but I don't think anyone has an answer to that as of right now (me esp)

[cold bloom]

so kinda half/half on aesthetics

[cold bloom]

agreed, just was curious

[prime ridge]

Mmm I see

I might just get the black case then so I can get it in by August. I think that the Raw case is cool but, not too sure how I feel about the durability of the coating compared to the black and white cases.

[harsh dove]

Yeah no worries

[prime ridge]

I guess I might wait a little to see if they do end up updating it or not. I just got my Neo Lavenders from Swagkeys and it came in two days from the time of ordering to my door step. Which is insane to think about

[harsh dove]

Lavenders are nice, make sure you lube the springs if you buy them

[fluid ravine]

Correct me if im wrong anybody, but i dont think there is a coating for the RAW ZINC as its, well RAW

[cold bloom]

fair, I don't think I'll get them myself but good info

[harsh dove]

There is a coating

[cold bloom]

I think I'm gonna wait for black jades to restock or something new

[harsh dove]

To prevent patina

[fluid ravine]

ah ok

[prime ridge]

Also, ended up being cheaper to buy and ship it from South Korea then buying any Jade Variants in the US

[fluid ravine]

da flip is patina

[cold bloom]

patina is like what happens to stuff as it wears

[fluid ravine]

sounds like a disease

[cold bloom]

like old metal on cars

hotrods etc

[fluid ravine]

ah

haha ic

[cold bloom]

usually a mix of rust

and wear

[harsh dove]

When metals get oxidation

Aka rusting

[fluid ravine]

[uneven cradle]

It be looking nice

[fluid ravine]

oh shiet thats sick

kohakuuuuuuu

[cold bloom]

I think it would dope if it patina'd over time personally

[prime ridge]

I think Patina looks really nice when it's done intentionally

[cold bloom]

a bit anyway

[prime ridge]

But, I find that when it's done accidentally or not purposefully it just looks messy

[cold bloom]

agreed

[prime ridge]

I'm not too sure how much it would be to have it Patinaed by someone who does it professionally but, I would assume that since you would have to patina the whole case it would cost a good amount

[harsh dove]

I’m having one of my new boards and custom cable patinaed by Wally Patina x Randall (WiredIn)

Copper Keyframe, Copper Weight and Copper Custom cable

[prime ridge]

I wonder if it's at all difficult to do it yourself. I think I've seen a few people on youtube attempting it but, I never watched those videos.

[fluid ravine]

OH SHI U ACTUALLY DOING A COPPER BOARD

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[uneven cradle]

You could diy it yourself but from what I've heard there's a bit of finesse to it

[harsh dove]

With PC case

[fluid ravine]

Man I cannot take you seriously sometimes

Ay lit tho 🔥

[harsh dove]

Will look like this

[prime ridge]

Makes sense

[harsh dove]

But patinaed

[prime ridge]

Oh dang

The Protagonist

[cold bloom]

that's dope

PC and copper go so well together

[fluid ravine]

Such beautiful board

[cold bloom]

I need to build a nice mx board once I'm not broke LMAO

[prime ridge]

For HE switches these Lavender switches sound pretty good in hand

[harsh dove]

Yeah Randall is having his done too then he’ll show me what it looks like then if I like it, he’ll send mine in as well

[prime ridge]

I just need a board for them now

[fluid ravine]

Fr, I need to build myself a clacky nice looking board

But I gotta get myself to finish my wooting first

So close but so far?

.-.

[cold bloom]

Agreed lmao

I just want a nicer case for my 60 at this point

then I'll get a nice mx board someday

[harsh dove]

This is Tirades board btw, basically where I got the inspiration from besides Randall telling me he was gonna patina his Protagonist

[prime ridge]

I wonder what the front height and typing angle is going to be for the new Optimum Tech Collab

[harsh dove]

My guess is very similar to the alumaze

And will probs come with adjustable feet

So likely between 4-7.5 degree

[prime ridge]

Mmm

[cold bloom]

4 degrees feels so low to me

[prime ridge]

That's nice to see!

[cold bloom]

anything below 6-7 feels odd to me

[prime ridge]

I feel the opposite way

Anything above 4 is odd for me lol

[cold bloom]

I can't go higher but I find lower doesn't work either haha

what size are your hands

I think mine are like 19x10cm

[prime ridge]

Or actually not that I find it's odd but, I just find that my hands strain more

18.5cmx10cm

[cold bloom]

yeah that's what I figured

weird

almost the same size haha

I type way too fast tho so I normally end up floating my wrist a bit

[prime ridge]

Mmm I see

I think for me

Even I float type I like to have my fingers hover over the keys rather than pushing the key

I also just don't higher angles to feel natural for my wrist personally

That's why both of my Custom MX boards are 4 degrees and lower

[uneven cradle]

I was thinking about picking up the glare60 but that typing angle

[prime ridge]

I type around 100wpm on 60sec and about 110-120 in 30sec

[prime ridge]

Glare's board sound and look so nice but, I agree.... the typing angle is 😢

I think a lot of Korean designed boards have higher typing angles as it generally preferred more over there.

[harsh dove]

Yeah they are

456GT has a 13 degree angle

In terms of natural wrist alignment, 4-8 is best

[cold bloom]

Same

[wind karma]

Whats the typing angle of the stock wooting 60HE case?

[prime ridge]

6 degrees I believe

[harsh dove]

Yeah 6

[stable sinew]

anyone know where to get something to raise the keyboard up like most keyboards have? didn't think this would be where wooting cut corners XD waited 2 months for carpel tunnel yikes

[harsh dove]

If you’re referring to the alumaze then it has adjustable feet that come with it, if you’re referring to the stock wooting case then it does not have adjustable feet

[stable sinew]

nah i just have a stock wooting60he

[harsh dove]

In other words, Amazon has adhesive keyboard feet for like $10

[stable sinew]

and carpel tunnel

[stable sinew]

thanks

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove got a keeb mat?

[harsh dove]

At home yeah

At work no

Waiting for my Luxe deskmat to come in

[fluid ravine]

What color u got?

By chance i might get one later

[harsh dove]

Just gray felt

[fluid ravine]

mmm

[harsh dove]

Waiting for this

Italian Suede straight from Italy

Handmade

[fluid ravine]

holeh

neat

i like i like

[harsh dove]

Comes in a couple colors too

[austere creek]

yo modders. does/did anyone have/made a powerdraw chart for the 60he

[untold wigeon]

Suede seems like it would be very slow

[fluid ravine]

Not that I remember of..

[harsh dove]

Not that I’m aware of

[harsh dove]

It’s a good thing I don’t plan to game on it lol

I got artisans in the closet for that

[untold wigeon]

Oh it’s probably great then.

[fluid ravine]

it looks nice tho

[harsh dove]

And yeah it is

Dude who made em said that to people before they bought em lol

So he’s making smaller sizes potentially for people who just want one for their board and not full desk

[uneven cradle]

Wonder if they'll be making this into a deskmat too

The BBL 👌

[stray tiger]

I think I have most/all of the GAF/BBW mats

[uneven cradle]

The artisans look pretty cool too

[fluid ravine]

sicckkkk

[harsh dove]

GAFs stuff is so freakin nice

[harsh dove]

That’s cool

[sweet oak]

Actually kinda snazzy

[fluid ravine]

GMK keycaps just arrived at a post office near me :D, cant waittt

[harsh dove]

🔥

[fluid ravine]

would literally drive 7 minutes to take em

:DD

Guessing i would have to wait a day or 2 more

[harsh dove]

You could go get em

Otherwise they’ll be there tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

How should it be done

or

[sweet oak]

Can i eat some?

[fluid ravine]

Looks like boba, can i have some

[sweet oak]

Thats what IM sayin

[harsh dove]

Figure out which post office has and it go there and say your package is there

[sweet oak]

So tasty

[untold wigeon]

@harsh dove is that a protective cover over your keeb? lol

[harsh dove]

Yep

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[sweet oak]

Keep it safe from dust

And yourself

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol I put it on when I go to work, bed, out and about

[fluid ravine]

me too!!!

pillow covers :D

[untold wigeon]

Did you buy it or is that what came with the keyboard?

[fluid ravine]

Used the board cover from the 60he box

[harsh dove]

Just the one that comes with wooting

[sweet oak]

Looks like a murder case

[fluid ravine]

yurrr

[fluid ravine]

hehehehehe

[harsh dove]

Is that milk?

[fluid ravine]

yep

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[fluid ravine]

took it in the morning

for poch

2 cups of milk today

[untold wigeon]

That’s why I have a gaming room. No one is allowed tf in there lol

[fluid ravine]

totally my secret on why i grow tall at such a young age

Lies from my parents?

[fluid ravine]

he came back fr

[sharp vigil]

How does Cerakeys work with 60He?

I assume some people here have tried it

[untold wigeon]

Love em. @sharp vigil

[harsh dove]

I’ll probably stream these when I get the Mistrals over the weekend. Spoiler ||They sound exactly like Jades||

[fluid ravine]

Am i not surprised

[harsh dove]

Yeah not different at all

Feels different though

Cause of the spring

[sharp vigil]

what switches? I feel like light ones would be weird with the heavy keycaps

[untold wigeon]

WS Dash

[sharp vigil]

oh WS dash so basically jades

[untold wigeon]

Yessir. I have 100g springs on the way so we will see how they change.

[sharp vigil]

sounds great

[fluid ravine]

More responsive i suppose?

[harsh dove]

Tolerances feel the same too

[sharp vigil]

👍 would be good to know the difference

do you play games with them?

[fluid ravine]

It's more expensive right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah kind of, the stem returns quicker after release vs the Jade

Cause of the spring

[untold wigeon]

I sure do. Took some getting used to but I actually prefer it. Every move is much more deliberate

[sharp vigil]

interesting

[harsh dove]

It’s like Rapid Fire Jades

lol

[fluid ravine]

hmm

[untold wigeon]

Ty

[sharp vigil]

I've heard sweat is a problem with cerakeys but I don't sweat that much so shouldn't be a problem for me

not gonna buy them now but maybe in the future, hopefully they'll have released an international kit by then

[untold wigeon]

Any time you touch them they get dirty. So I just keep a microfiber cloth with screen cleaner around.

[sharp vigil]

damn

[untold wigeon]

Worth it. The best part is they are always cold to the touch.

This just in from AE

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806482080319.html?ug_edm_item_id=3256806482080319&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!%247.43!%244.46!!!!!%402151e79417187491584397147d6ce5!12000037979306126!edm!!!&edm_click_module=alg_product_l1r2_6583117370&creative_img_ind=1&edm_log_data=edm-item-list-left-one-right-two.store-product-log-link&tracelog=rowan&rowan_id1=aeug_edm_41198_1_en_US_2024-06-18&rowan_msg_id=mikdCOWS_41198_%24df153a29848648eea11448c0864db9c2&ck=in_edm_other&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

AE never links well. I’m not doing that anymore.

Basically says 70 Jades for $45.35usd

[untold wigeon]

I like the purple switch

What is it.

[harsh dove]

Neo Lavender

[untold wigeon]

HE?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[untold wigeon]

Hmmmmm

[harsh dove]

Those are all the closed bottom HE switches besides WS Dash and Jade Mini E

[untold wigeon]

I’ve never heard of this

[harsh dove]

Swagkeys has em

[untold wigeon]

My whole aesthetic is purple.

[harsh dove]

I have em in here

[untold wigeon]

$4.50 per switch??? Damn.

https://tenor.com/view/faint-fainting-catch-me-gif-19205245

[untold wigeon]

That’s sexy

[harsh dove]

Per 10 lol

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok. It doesn’t say anything on the website about quantity

See now $31.50 seems too cheap.

[polar girder]

I need a frog bro

[knotty iron]

what is the dark green

has anyone made a jade themed 60HE+ build

[harsh dove]

Black jades from BackSpace

[knotty iron]

they HE?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[mossy thorn]

This is the listing i got mine from, was 40$ cad for 110 with the summer carnival thing

[uneven cradle]

My stabs are green does that count

[sweet oak]

Black pc plate

[knotty iron]

Hopperbus keyb looks so good

[uneven cradle]

I did have eye on this linworks green keycap set

[sweet oak]

ooh

like emeralds

[knotty iron]

does it come in a 6.25u variant

[uneven cradle]

I'm guessing so

[knotty iron]

looks like it

[uneven cradle]

Still on the hunt for keycaps for this one

Maybe I just go black snail

[sweet oak]

🐌

[uneven cradle]

The wine red is calling to me

[sweet oak]

that one below the darker red

oh just black

nbm

nvm

[uneven cradle]

We gotta go full berserk

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-gif-18116833496145014167

[sweet oak]

[untold wigeon]

@uneven cradle what stabs are those?

[uneven cradle]

TX AP plate mounted stabs

[untold wigeon]

Nice. I want some. Matches my keycaps

Where did you get them @uneven cradle too many options

I can only find them in black

[polar girder]

Yeah I have the black

Excited to pair with black pc plate

Need to put them in tho lol

Those look great

Sweet color

[uneven cradle]

From this shop on aliexpress

[harsh dove]

$20 for stabs is kinda crazy

[uneven cradle]

Gotta do what you gotta do in NZ

[paper bloom]

I paid 80 for 2

Knights

And the kryptox only being 5 dollars LOL

[fluid ravine]

wait how much did you pay for mine 😭

[untold wigeon]

Ty @uneven cradle

[polar girder]

Yeah I mean at this point you could charge $40 for some unique stabs snd if they were cool enough people would prob buy them lol

[paper bloom]

Ye

[uneven cradle]

It was gonna be $35 USD just to get the damn PC plate from wooting

[polar girder]

Worth

[fluid ravine]

$26.54 for me

$29.73 for expedited

[uneven cradle]

Can get full custom aluminum plates for less then that

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/bert-sesame-street-man-fainting-falling-faint-puppet-faints-gif-18818014

[uneven cradle]

This damn keyboard has cost me way too much already

[polar girder]

Ikr

[uneven cradle]

It do be nice now though

[polar girder]

But now I’m so invested I want to spend double

https://tenor.com/view/good-grief-im-down-snoopy-sleepy-gif-11834570498874541345

[paper bloom]

My 1st keyboard alone

Has costed me

450

Bucks

LOL

[polar girder]

Rookie numbers

[paper bloom]

Thats enuf for me dude

[polar girder]

lol but yeah it adds up

I’m joking

It’s a lot lol

[paper bloom]

Ik

[polar girder]

But it could be so much more

[paper bloom]

Bro i cld slap jades

[polar girder]

KB hobby goes crazy

[paper bloom]

And total it with 70

So 500+

[fluid ravine]

fr

im invested

[paper bloom]

But it aint a hobby

Its a straight up game changer

[fluid ravine]

my time to be exact

[polar girder]

It’s a lifestyle

[paper bloom]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

haha

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-sunglasses-swag-penguin-with-gif-16750310532275184604

[paper bloom]

U use ur keyboard

Like its ur weapon IRL

[fluid ravine]

everyday

ong

[paper bloom]

U see some guy fighting IRL

Slap their head with ut

[fluid ravine]

FR

[paper bloom]

Boom weapob

[fluid ravine]

LMAOOO

[paper bloom]

Weapon*

LMAOO

[fluid ravine]

[paper bloom]

It aint no lifestyle its my rifle its my wife

[polar girder]

Keyboard and mouse my weapon of choice fr

[paper bloom]

Exactly

[fluid ravine]

[paper bloom]

U dont wanna see 250 WLmouse flying at ur face at the same speed of a 50BMG

[polar girder]

I just had a custom mouse frame printed in 5 different plastics to see which one I like the best

[paper bloom]

LMAOOO

[polar girder]

One in stainless steel lol

[fluid ravine]

[polar girder]

But that’s just more to see if it’s doable

[paper bloom]

U call that paint job i call that morale paint jobs

[polar girder]

Not going to use it prob

[paper bloom]

LMAOO

[polar girder]

lol printed not painted

But yee

[paper bloom]

Oh sorry printed*

Its ammunition

The adrenaline

[polar girder]

Spray em with the paint

[paper bloom]

Yes

[sterile ridge]

i just put the broken stabilizer on right shift key. ez

[fluid ravine]

lmao real

[paper bloom]

That works ye

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/jardier-brap-gif-20835735

[fluid ravine]

who even uses that key

[polar girder]

Me

[paper bloom]

No one

I dont LOL

[polar girder]

Common right shifter user W

[paper bloom]

U might as well use it for rick roll

As a dedicated key

[polar girder]

I can’t go WKL for 60

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-meme-internet-never-gonna-gif-26474110

[polar girder]

I’ve entertained HHKB but can’t do it either

Need left ctrl

[paper bloom]

I c

Use it for rick astly e z

[polar girder]

Rick roll hot key FTW

THATS FAX

-caps

[paper bloom]

YEAAA

[polar girder]

[paper bloom]

If u say thats a rick roll key on the caps key

Theyll call it cap and get capped

why does that rhyme

[harsh dove]

Like $9-11

[polar girder]

Why does cap rhyme with cap?

[paper bloom]

Idj

Idk*

But it works

[polar girder]

They kinda sound the same

Big tru

[paper bloom]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/wednesday-mind-blown-wow-whoa-gif-12973294

[paper bloom]

Welp my ass is off to the airport

See u guys in a bit

Have a great day

[polar girder]

Aight peace. Safe travels

[paper bloom]

And a greater one at best and thanks

[uneven cradle]

I just calculated mine it's over $700 USD

[paper bloom]

Nice

[uneven cradle]

Those Shipping costs

[calm pulsar]

my keycaps alone are like 400+, I have 4 gmk sets

[uneven cradle]

No more adding up costs

[median spade]

those are rookie numbers pump those gmk sets up

[uneven cradle]

Just spend money and enjoy

[median spade]

At one point I had like 20 sets on hand was too much

[cedar gate]

...

I only have one set and don't plan on getting any more for a foreseeable future

I love my crosshair

[calm pulsar]

gmk wob novelties set costs more than the base set lol

[static tendon]

Thats crazy, GMK cost so much

[calm pulsar]

it's cause this particular set is out of stock, so it can only be found on ebay or similar places

[static tendon]

Yeah i'm sure, just like GMK Mizu, gl finding it for a fair price

Correction^

[calm pulsar]

wanted to tell you that mitolet is on drop 😄

[uneven cradle]

You tellin me I just got GMK Rubrehose and that's full set only

[static tendon]

Haha, I know I even owned the set LOL. Mixed them up

[calm pulsar]

liking the classic vibe

[static tendon]

After some testing, I think the hall effect jade switches are too heavy for my liking. L45's are too light

I really wish there was some in between option

[calm pulsar]

there are springs on wooting website or aliexpress, might check them

[uneven cradle]

Those artisans I linked earlier I may have to pick those up too 👀

[static tendon]

Wooting doesn't have L50 springs unfortunately. I already have L60's and L45s, there's no in between 😪

Jades are just as heavy as the L60's

[calm pulsar]

tbf I never felt the difference going from stock lekkers to jades

I can tell they're lighter but it never affected my typing experience

im curious how 100g springs would feel

[static tendon]

Did you have the L60's?

[calm pulsar]

yes

[static tendon]

They feel the same to me as the jades

L45's are just a smidge too light. Light enough to where I sometimes accidently press a key without realizing. I would want it just a littttle bit heavier. L50 would be just perfect

[calm pulsar]

might check here, I can see 45g and 55g

https://sl.aliexpress.ru/p?key=BZWHsGn

[static tendon]

Thanks for the link, I think Jades are advertised as 55 grams but it feels heavier

[calm pulsar]

could be due to the fact that the travel is shorter

[fluid ravine]

thinking about it... i only spent like $100 for my board

maybe a little bit over so like around 100

[static tendon]

I don't think that's it either tbh. Some switches are way heavier than advertised. Like for example, there was this light blue (lighter spring variant) of the NK cream but it felt like 70 grams - but they are advertised as 63 gram bottom out

Then I had a durock linear at 62 grams feel closer to 45 grams or so

I have aboslutely no idea how they're measuring these weights but they're so off it's incredible. Maybe they're measuring something different

My cherry mx silvers feel lighter than the jades for sure

Also reduced travel^

[calm pulsar]

yeah there are a lot of variables, plus they could be mistaking initial and bottom out force when listing the specs

[fluid ravine]

they're 45g right?

[static tendon]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

yeah makes sense

[static tendon]

Keyboard springs are super different no matter what they claim they are

One company's, 40 gram will feel like another company's70 gram

[fluid ravine]

imagine thats the case for ever single switch on your board

lmao

[static tendon]

It's usually huge difference as well

🤷‍♂️

[fluid ravine]

now i think abt it...

i use to use akko's v3 cream yellows, iirc they were like 50g?
they felt a lil bit heavier or as heavy as l60's

[static tendon]

Lol yeah it's weird

[fluid ravine]

pretty close actually

but i mean you're not wrong tho

[static tendon]

For typing the weight of the jades feel nice. For playing games, I definitely prefer lighter switches

I might spring swap my jades with L45 springs tbh

[calm pulsar]

I feel like I want heavier springs for gaming on a HE board in order to have more control over rapid trigger

[fluid ravine]

need them heavy springs

i fk with 60-70 grams

oo dual stage springs this heavy^

even better

[calm pulsar]

Im gonna be bench pressing 100g springs

[fluid ravine]

ah yea

🔥 FEEL THE BURRNNN

NO PAIN NO GAIN

[static tendon]

I actually think i'd disagree. I think lighter switches allows to take more advantage of rapid trigger but ofc it's a preference thing tho

When it's too heavy it's easier to mis-click

Feels like I'm fighting the spring more if that makes sense

[calm pulsar]

could be the case
I will try the heaviest spring compared to ligher jades and see where can I go from there

[fluid ravine]

When logic isnt logicing
but then logic is logicing

[static tendon]

@fluid ravine you usaully do a lot of keyboard mods, what's the next plans? Or have you reached your goal of sound/typing feel?

[fluid ravine]

ahaha, i've been just cutting down the mods on my board and just start slowly spending on parts that would give my board a natural sound. Lately clack has been growing over me so im considering to buy smth like lavenders after i recieve my gmk.

Learned that the board sounds best when its at its "natural" state

[calm pulsar]

yeah gmk is perfect for that nice clack

especially with a closed bottom switch

[uneven cradle]

Remove foam, return to clack

[fluid ravine]

Like mods to go for thock is cool, like no cap i could even achieve it with lekkers and everything, it was sick back then. But, phase of moving on throughout the year

[calm pulsar]

mom its not just a phase

[static tendon]

Ah gotcha, GMK seems like a good place to start. They're just so pricey. But they're nice. I can see myself running my current keycap set for a while unless I find another color option I like

[fluid ravine]

I mean ay, good experience when you do all the mods you could do. Learn from it, provide the experience and knowledge.

My board sounds like absolute DAWG rn compare to back then. But i got patience (kinda)

[static tendon]

I typically like the clack sound. My favorite sounding keyboard is definitely a clack build

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4r-Join1Hc/?igsh=azBmOTZkZ3M5c2g0 this build here

kriscables

And another video by @koenromers with the latest cable made for him.
I like the Sirius' look and sound, what do you think ?
.
Keyboard: Sirius (with weight)
PCB: Plain60-C
Plate: POM
Sound dampening: 2mm neoprene foam
Switches: Gateron Yellow (clear Tealios housing, 60g SPRiT springs)
Lube: Krytox 205g0 (springs with Krytox 106)
Stabilisers: GMK...

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Honestly, my current wooting setup isn't far from this sound at all. It's just a little more quiet

I'm super satisfied with it right now

[fluid ravine]

That's what im talkin abt i fw it fosure

[static tendon]

The jades really make this sound signature I love

[calm pulsar]

its funny how I got Jades, liked them so much that I put a video on YT, it got 40k+ views, but now I am noticing more and more that my stabs are actually bad, the plate is too soft etc 😄

[static tendon]

This too https://www.instagram.com/reel/C788pp_yYBc/?igsh=a3Jhcjhjazc1Znhn like mr krabs walking around

edwardtanujayaa

•New grey theme keycaps called Vibrato from @keykobo
This set definitely going to my top 5 keycaps! ⚫️

For indo folks, this keycaps is instock and available to buy via @kukeystudio

---

#keyboards #mechanicalkeyboard #keycaps #customkeyboard #edc #setupgaming

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[fluid ravine]

Wbu? Any next plans?

[fluid ravine]

omg

[static tendon]

I think i'm gonna go for the purple stemmed jades and call it complete. I've done everything I've wanted so far. Got the module, salvation case. GMK synthwave, custom cable, adjusted the lube a little on stabs. I'm basically done. End game wooting

[fluid ravine]

It does sound like mr krabs walking around 😭

[calm pulsar]

I was thinking a lot abt why HE switches (even closed bottom) sound so different to conventional mechanical switches

and I think the biggest difference is that mechanical switches have a shaft that goes through the pcb while HE switches always hit it above the pcb

[fluid ravine]

heck yeeeee 🔥

[static tendon]

Took some time to get here, purchased stuff off mechmarket on reddit but I did it 🙂

[calm pulsar]

reminded me of this classic a bit https://youtu.be/aeqnEJpPZVY

[fluid ravine]

Bottom pole insert, mold dimensions, materials (eh not really), spring are the things i think the reason why they both sound different

[static tendon]

The holy panda's are a bit deeper but yeah not too far off

[fluid ravine]

that spacebar tho-

[fluid ravine]

hmm i do understand what you're talking about though...

[thorn zealot]

Being in 3 mad expensive hobbies is brutal

Kbs audio and knives

[fluid ravine]

imagine having to spend alot, i could never

[calm pulsar]

yeah audio is hella expensive

[fluid ravine]

how much would be considered expensive

[thorn zealot]

Like over 1 or 2k

[static tendon]

I got my entire XLR set for 100$ - Black friday deals saved me a bunch

[thorn zealot]

On headphones/iems

[fluid ravine]

I spent like $200

TruthearxCrinacle Zero Reds: $45
Audient Evo 4: $120
Fifine K688: $75 or so
XLR cable: $10
Boom arm: $40

[thorn zealot]

Not even including amps

[calm pulsar]

there are also instruments that can go more than 2k, but that's if you're into making your own music

[static tendon]

Well, $110, $60 for the AT2020 mic, $40 for interface, and 10$ for the cable

[thorn zealot]

Ur headphones would be considered cheap

[static tendon]

It was a steal! But my mic arm ran me another 80$ for the low profile one I have

[thorn zealot]

Or budget

[static tendon]

What interface do you run?

[fluid ravine]

edited

[fluid ravine]

yeah went from a steelseries artic 7 to a Crinacle Zero Red

I got the zero reds for like -$5 or 10

[static tendon]

I used to have the Elgato Wave XLR interface and it was amazing. But I kept getting this hissing sound through my mic. I've tried different mics, moving the wires. I tried 3 other interfaces and everytime the hissing was just there. The cheapest behringer interface didn't experience it. It was so odd. But maybe it was something in my room causing the interference

[thorn zealot]

I would never spend 200 on gaming headsets

[fluid ravine]

past down from my cousin

so i tech got it for free

[thorn zealot]

Thank god

[static tendon]

I'll have to pick another one up again. Loved that interface. It had this like dual gain feature that removes clipping and it's so small and compact

[fluid ravine]

But i gave it to my nephew

[thorn zealot]

Also thank god

[static tendon]

Would you spend that money on some studio headphones?

[fluid ravine]

Switched to IEMS cus the ear foam piece was like slowing ripping, didn't wanna replace it for like $20, and was considering to upgrade to IEMS anyways

[thorn zealot]

Personally I’m more into iems

[static tendon]

Ah

[fluid ravine]

same here

[thorn zealot]

My sis and mom always talk about my hair being dented

[fluid ravine]

LMAO REAL

[calm pulsar]

xd

[static tendon]

Earphones in my ear such as IEM's never stay inside my ear. Like airpods for example even, those can not stay in my ear. But the 1st gen stay flawlessly in my ears

[fluid ravine]

i always think abt my hair when wearing headphones

[static tendon]

Super weird

[fluid ravine]

oh and head dents

[static tendon]

I've tried all ear pieces too

[calm pulsar]

I have long hair but I have no issues with dented hair 😄

[static tendon]

haha that's true, I agree with it messing up the hair. Gets annoying

[fluid ravine]

i have straight hair lmao

i mean im asian so what can i say

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static tendon]

I went buzz cut like 6 months ago. Worth it

[thorn zealot]

I have straight buzz

Pretty obv

[static tendon]

Heck yeah

[fluid ravine]

2 block xd

[fluid ravine]

i cant go back xd

asian phase as a young boy

[thorn zealot]

I’m Asian too

I rock that cut

[fluid ravine]

went to side part, somewhat bowl cut? Wolf cut, now im rocking a 2 block for the summer

[fluid ravine]

honestly i wish xdddd

I'd be happy if i could

[thorn zealot]

Trying these would be a wet dream

Don’t ask the price

[fluid ravine]

holy shiet

how much?

[calm pulsar]

2k

[fluid ravine]

i regret asking

[thorn zealot]

Only 50 in the world

[calm pulsar]

my guess

[thorn zealot]

5.2k

[calm pulsar]

dayum

[fluid ravine]

i def regret asking

[static tendon]

[fluid ravine]

It looks nice

but DAMNNNNNNNNNNN

dafuq 😭

[thorn zealot]

I’ve seen iem cables go for like 1.2k

[calm pulsar]

keyboard hobby is pretty chill in comparison xd

[fluid ravine]

I didn't ask

JUST FOR A CABLE

WHAT THE FLIP FLAP CRISP CRASP

oh lawd

[calm pulsar]

it should be a 2km cable

for that price

[fluid ravine]

LITERALLLLLYYYYY

[thorn zealot]

I’m planning to get some iems in the couple hundred ranges

And call it there

[calm pulsar]

I was thinking of getting the frog mini on my next paycheck, but not sure if I want the silver one

and there are none other in stock

[fluid ravine]

is that what you mean when u said to bigsly "I'll notify you, when i get one"?

[calm pulsar]

[uneven cradle]

I know a guy who has these

[uneven cradle]

Really depends

When you get into like og cherry keycap sets and stuff it starts getting real expensive

[calm pulsar]

ohh that indeed sounds expensive

i’ve seen vintage cherry switches being sold also

[thorn zealot]

Ik some ppl too

Lucky bitches

Sorry for cussing☝️

[harsh dove]

Look up 64Audio

Just some of them

Customs go for way more

[brazen sparrow]

The headphone jack did some much for audio those 20 dollar Apple headphones were so goated

I miss them every day

[static tendon]

Are more drivers better?

[brazen sparrow]

Not necessarily

Tuning is a really heavy component

And how your ear drums perceive sound

So it really is user dependent

[thorn zealot]

Driver count means almost nothing for sound quality

[harsh dove]

No, different drivers for different things

[thorn zealot]

Their aspire 4 is their entry 💀

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[brazen sparrow]

A better tuned headphone > a driver spaghetti monster

More drivers can help with staging but honestly

Just get something more affordable

Highest end I’d say to ever go would be $150 range if you aren’t a audiophile

[thorn zealot]

Plus u can eq

[brazen sparrow]

^^

[thorn zealot]

Let’s not turn this into an audiophile channel

[median spade]

Love my fourtes

[thorn zealot]

I’m Alr in a audiophile server

[harsh dove]

Yeah nobody needs those IEMs I posted unless you know what you're buying lol

[median spade]

And my 800s for over ear

[brazen sparrow]

Honestly for 3.5k I better be hearing every note

That’s all from me I really should be asleep

[loud zephyr]

It's so ugly and overpriced imo. The diminishing returns for IEM's is a sharp nosedive in comparison to other audio hardware. I'm sure they sound great but at 5.2k that's just taking the piss

[median spade]

I use them with apple usb c dongle

[thorn zealot]

Yeah ik

[brazen sparrow]

[thorn zealot]

After like 300 bucks it’s diminishing returns

[brazen sparrow]

Maybe even less with some of these new releases

[harsh dove]

Yeah what I posted is really for musicians, live performance peeps, etc, some audiophiles and I know some streamers who use em in FPS

[thorn zealot]

Gets lower every like month

[median spade]

I actually use blessing 2s

[thorn zealot]

I might get davincis

Unless a cheaper iem with same tuning comes out

[loud zephyr]

yeah there's just so many options now to ever feel like you're missing out on something that's better because it's priced above and beyond normie pricing

[median spade]

Tbh $100 range all you need

Difference in IEMs so minuscule

[loud zephyr]

Wooting IEM wen?

[median spade]

Need that rappy snappy audio

[loud zephyr]

[calm pulsar]

im out there using a wireless headset cause i work from home and its nice to leave pc to get some snacks or chill and still be able to hear colleagues

[dusky valley]

has anyone used a holy60 with WS dash's

[calm pulsar]

it probably sounds like dashes on a switch tester

[dusky valley]

cuz i'd prob be the guy to do that honestly

just as a funny travel gaming keyboard

[calm pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/taoOMnSIbpo?feature=share

[dusky valley]

thx

man barely a sound test

[calm pulsar]

yeah, i just remembered that guy posted his kb in wootstations

[dusky valley]

Although the different plates prob don't make much of a difference from what i saw from the bad seed tech vid doing a small comparison of them

[prisma ivy]

can anyone suggest an aesthetically pleasing keycap for my 60he?

[median spade]

GMK

[prisma ivy]

the stock keycap already got a shine mark

[paper bloom]

The ones from

Kapco is good

Im off now

[uneven cradle]

A lot of options, mostly comes down to preference at least in terms of aesthetics

[calm pulsar]

pbtfans have good options if you don't want abs

[prisma ivy]

ayo thanks the keycap is firee

[prisma ivy]

yea i would not want abs

[marsh saffron]

My next set is gonna be pbtfans BoW

Perfect set for what I'm looking for

[calm pulsar]

just wanted to say that I'm selling this currently but then noticed its bow

[marsh saffron]

I'm also too broke to buy new keycaps for a bit

Gonna pickup switches soon keycaps eventually

Wish I didn't buy wootings white ones and just went with the pbtfans off the hop

[simple fractal]

Is anyone here using the wooting ISO pc plate with the standard 60he? The website mentions there might be some issues, has anyone of you actually encountered any?

[wind karma]

oh okay thanks

[knotty iron]

https://kbdfans.com/products/compatible-accessories-for-wooting-60he?variant=41579926618251
Does this support 1.6mm screw in stabs?

[tawdry tree]

It’s Cherry spec so depends on the stabs you want to use.

[crimson sky]

the plate has nothing to do with 1.2 vs 1.6mm stabs, for a wooting you always need 1.6mm

[tawdry tree]

SW Knights would be fine.

[knotty iron]

WS v3.1

1.6mm screw in

just wanted to double check

buying stuff from KBD rn

[tawdry tree]

I think those are fine too. Not 100% sure though.

[knotty iron]

I mean I still like the steel plate so I guess it's not a big deal

[tawdry tree]

Steel plate has the same size holes but I think those stabs are fine.

[knotty iron]

i asked the people from KBD discord not for the 60HE but for the 60HE+

screw in 1.6

the answers I got were somewhat conflicting

[tawdry tree]

1.6 is right yes, but not all stabs fit through a Cherry spec hole.

PCB thickness is 1.6mm so you need 1.6mm stabs if that was your worry.

These are pretty smooth despite them being dry af. Minimal steb wobble, especially at bottom out. Total travel of 3.6mm.

None of my MX top housings fit due to interference. So finding a good fit might be a bit difficult. The Zero degree’s top housing was shown to work so if you @harsh dove can’t find another combination that works I might just cop those to try.

[calm pulsar]

do they work with wooting? I can see there are no legs that go through pcb

[tawdry tree]

They don’t have mounting pins, yes. The blue one specifically is for Woot’s boards.

The orange one is reversed polarity.

[calm pulsar]

gotcha

[calm pulsar]

the boxed stem looks more dense than on gugus

but I take it that there is no compatibility between housings

[tawdry tree]

It does but that’s because of the mold finish I think.

[knotty iron]

ok guys

just ordered poron film and some more tools

[tawdry tree]

Between the Black Knights and these?

[calm pulsar]

rather, upper housings and the stem from kailh and lower housing of jades

[tawdry tree]

Kailh’s stem is much smaller. The Jade’s spring doesn’t fit in Kailh’s stem and Kailh’s spring doesn’t fit in the bottom housing of the Jades. So that won’t work sadly.

[calm pulsar]

I see, thanks for the info

[tawdry tree]

Yw!

[calm pulsar]

also excited for dual rail jades that are coming out some time soon

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

I don’t think it’ll make much of a difference though. The whole dual rail thing is just marketing really.

[calm pulsar]

i was hoping it'd reduce wobbling when the switch returns back up which would possibly make it sound cleaner

[tawdry tree]

It could

[calm pulsar]

yeah cause that's one of the weakest points of HE switches when it comes to sound imo

you don't feel the wobble, but it makes noise

[mental horizon]

anyone knows which material (or best which vendor) the 60HE MODULE screw in stock stabilizers are? Are they okayish or need an upgrade=?

[calm pulsar]

they are based on gateron screw ins

[mental horizon]

that sounds very good. i like gateron screw ins

[calm pulsar]

yeah and they should be lubed from the factory

[paper bloom]

@prisma ivy happy 2 help

[harsh dove]

You think a force break would help on the Frog Mini @median spade

[slow skiff]

Can sm hellp me tag a wooting admin so that i can ask for sm from them, my uncle died in a car crash a few weeks ago just after i got my 60he and i was wondering if they could help me get a set of keycaps, the white wavy ones

??

[calm pulsar]

i've seen a review where the guy made quite a heavy force break mod

[harsh dove]

On the frog?

[calm pulsar]

yup

let me find it

[harsh dove]

Thanks

[calm pulsar]

https://youtu.be/VAQT_TyRB1E

[old swallow]

was @normal schooner not a mod before, or was mod a different colour?

something is throwing me off here

[harsh dove]

He’s been a mod, they just changing up colors and roles a bit

[old swallow]

aah right, i was looking at it like something is different

[old swallow]

cam, make me pink

do it

don't we still need a wootwhale role or something haha

[crimson sky]

guy takes 1:30 in a 4:27 video to even show the damn board he is yappin about

[calm pulsar]

yeah dunno what that was about

[crimson sky]

also with his mic setups both sound tests sound like ass

[harsh dove]

Yeah I was going for something more like this https://youtu.be/7kmy01pFuyI?si=A_9YcrrkG346qQ7j

[calm pulsar]

I think Andy mentioned he did a force break mod for his Frog Mini as well

[harsh dove]

Yeah this is goated for Frog Mini

Definitely works

Just did it with Electrical Tape

[old swallow]

damn, i kinda want to hit my 60HE stabs with some dielectric grease, but i dont wanna bother undoing the whole board

getting the PCB seated in the redux so that the port works properly can be tricky enough already

you know what, i will probably just wait till the Jade Mini N come out, then i will swap the switches anyways, so i just do it then

dont mint me just being schizo and having a conversation with myself

[harsh dove]

lol no worries

[polar girder]

Really?

I didn’t find it very difficult at all

[old swallow]

idk, maybe im just being diffiicult lol. but last time i didnt have it close enough to the hole, so my cable couldnt get all the way in

[polar girder]

Fair enough

[thorn zealot]

Will the new silicon sandwich pad for the optimum case be an option when buying the 60+ module

[fluid ravine]

Goodeo Morning Y'all!

[thorn zealot]

What’s up brother ☝️

[sharp vigil]

can you force break a tofu? It doesn't have top and bottom separate

no, they say that in the video 😅

just got to that part

[calm pulsar]

how are you going to force break it then 😄

[sharp vigil]

magic

[harsh dove]

Yeah , was gonna say no, needs to be a two piece case

[median spade]

Not really, but people have had success with changing to bumpons

[harsh dove]

Oh that’s a good idea too

I feel like the force break helped but spacebar still sounds a bit off

[median spade]

Yeah there was a Korean person in the hobby who found switching to bumpons helped

[harsh dove]

You have a link to any?

[devout torrent]

my mini e jades finally shipped from gateron

should have sprung for faster shipping

[calm pulsar]

well they were on a preorder that’s why probably

[devout torrent]

yeah ik

[calm pulsar]

@harsh dove btw did you order custom HE plate for frog mini?

[harsh dove]

Any reason you bought these?

[harsh dove]

Well I got mine from Tenturo but yeah he had two custom plates made, Alu and POM from Hypekeyboards

[devout torrent]

gonna stick em in my higround

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

[devout torrent]

yeah pretty bad board def would not rec

lmao

but using it to try ks-37 switches and waht not

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’d never own a high ground personally

[polar girder]

Same

[cedar gate]

Is one o ring burger mount enough

I'm running tofu 60 redux and screws are only long enough for one o ring

[pale aspen]

80he Raw zinc alloy case

anodize-able? cerakote-able?

want it in neon green

[steel hemlock]

Hello fellow Wooters.

I have finally pulled the triggers and bought myself a Tofu60/Jade switches (yippee!)

Now before I get anything started or receive anything in the mail, I was planning on just taking the PCB in my current base wooting and plopping it into the case.

HOWEVER, I noticed the stabs and plate is different on the module as opposed to assembled 60HE (polycarbonate instead of steel, plate mounted instead of screw ins)

Is there any advantage to ordering the module and selling my current wooting rather than transplanting the PCB? Will the plates/stab make a difference? Thank you wooters

[mellow leaf]

what are some good screw in stabs to replace the clip ins?

[mellow leaf]

you could get some screw ins from other brands and buy the official polycarb plate from wooting, the normal 60he is compatible with screw ins, depending on when you bought it...

[steel hemlock]

I do have the 60HE+

I wasn’t planning on changing the stabs tho

[fluid ravine]

As you may notice, you are correct, when buying the pre-built, the 60he does come with a steel plate and plate mounts stabilizers, but there was an update quite a few months back where the pcb is updated to the 60he+ (Which is now compatible with screw in stabs), what you could do is order a PC plate and another set of screw in stabs if you like.

[mellow leaf]

then its comatible

[steel hemlock]

Compatible but is it worth changing

[fluid ravine]

For plate, terms of stiffness and frequency, yes

[steel hemlock]

And at fault of ordering anything new from wooting, I’d just get the 60HE module and make the money back from selling my current one

[fluid ravine]

Stabilizers, depends on the use case, you could lube any stab with lube or grease and still achieve great results

[mellow leaf]

i watched badseed teck, i didnt really heard the clear difference, but im still doin it though in the future

[steel hemlock]

That was the plan

[mellow leaf]

the clip ins on my perspective already sound great tbh...

[steel hemlock]

Apparently lubing the stabs was enough to eliminate most rattle and empty sounds, but that’s for the screw in stabs

From videos I’ve watched

[fluid ravine]

Use case, as in use of mounting styles as Gummy mounting would be best used with clips in or plate mounts. But tuning however, no matter what stabs you would have, you dont really need to do all the crazy modding to make it sound good, lube and grease and boom you're done. Unless you have a warped wire ofc then oof.

[mellow leaf]

i mean the stabs are well lubed when watching other vids, for me, no reason to buy stab grease and regrease them

[mellow leaf]

you mean burger mount?

[steel hemlock]

Wait so are clip ins are good in this case? Like would I have better results from screw ins or its just because they’re a lot more easily modded

[fluid ravine]

No

[mellow leaf]

ok

[steel hemlock]

Never heard of gummy mounting

[mellow leaf]

i only heard of burger mount

[fluid ravine]

Gummy mounting can't really be done with screw in stabs as the stabilizer housing would push out the oring making it not fit in the case

[mellow leaf]

ok

[fluid ravine]

It's where you get a big oring and wrap it around the module and inserting it into the case, but for tray mount boards we call it friction mount

There's a difference between gummy mounting and friction mounting but both use the same oring and same installation steps

[mellow leaf]

my plan:
get the wooting 60he+ prebuilt with take control keycaps
later on in the line: buy tofu 60 redux, add pc plate, maybe add wrist rest, sadly no jades, cause i love how the lekker sounds

[mellow leaf]

ah that gummy o ring mount

[steel hemlock]

I’ll look into it

[mellow leaf]

il prob not do it, to my perspective, it just feels wrong, but still right

[fluid ravine]

Heres my take and a little bit info on tradition gummy mount

[fluid ravine]

wut

[mellow leaf]

yes.

[fluid ravine]

When english doesnt engles

[mellow leaf]

as a german, my english isnt englishing

[fluid ravine]

its like saying yes but no but no but yes?

lol

[mellow leaf]

it just feels very wrong to do it, but it still helps the sound, so yesnt

[steel hemlock]

So gummy mounting works for the wooting

And since I have clip ins

Would be ideal in my case

[fluid ravine]

it feels wrong to do it

[steel hemlock]

Is what I’m understanding?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[steel hemlock]

Don’t worry same but as a Frenchmen :,)

[fluid ravine]

with the stock 60% plate, you can do friction/gummy mount, tray mount, and burger mount with the 60he

but other mounts like gasket or tadpole mount must be done through custom plates

[mellow leaf]

im still relearning french, even though i did french in swiss primary school 😭

[fluid ravine]

From my take, gummy mount works best with plate mounts, but if you want to upgrade your stabs similarly to screw in stabs, then yeah go for the clip in. Remember that screw in stabs and the o'ring dont fit well as the oring gets pushed out because of the stabilizer housing

[steel hemlock]

I meant plate mounted, my bad

I have stock 60HE+ which comes with plate mount but screw mount compatible right

[fluid ravine]

Correct

[steel hemlock]

Ok so

[fluid ravine]

60he+ PCB is pcb mount stab compatible

meaning you could use plate mount, screw ins, and clip ins

While the original 60he pcb can only use plate mount, like mine :)

[fluid ravine]

Oh and dont let my opinions change your thoughts, remember this is just my take and everything is preference.

[steel hemlock]

Let’s say I keep everything stock, grease/lube stabs jade switches (idk if worth lubing I heard factory lube is very good)

Gummy mounted, use included wooting foam and an extra foam or tape mod to fill in the bottom (I didn’t get the brass weight bar but don’t wanna keep it hollow) all that should yield a fairly good result right

Keep the steel plate

Or would polycarbonate be much better

[median spade]

should have got the brass bar tbh

makes world of difference

[fluid ravine]

yea

[steel hemlock]

Not too late to get it

[fluid ravine]

Filling the cavity would increase density/weight making the case less pingy and hollow

[steel hemlock]

Was on Reddit a lot and opinions were really thorn on it

[steel hemlock]

Yeah that’s my plan but with foam or something else

[fluid ravine]

Honestly, we do prefer PC>Steel

[fluid ravine]

i used wood for mine

[steel hemlock]

Oh why didn’t I think of that

[fluid ravine]

lol

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[fluid ravine]

but you would have to drill holes for yours

[steel hemlock]

I do a lot of wood working I could definitely cook something up if it’s good enough

[fluid ravine]

I dont have a redux but i do have a tofu v1 clone

[steel hemlock]

Yeah that’s not an issue

[fluid ravine]

Here's mine

[steel hemlock]

Man you’re gonna make me spend more

[fluid ravine]

lol

[steel hemlock]

I wonder if filling it with tape would yield a good result

Or like

[fluid ravine]

tried that

it was eh

[median spade]

its' only $25 tbh

no; reason to not get it

[fluid ravine]

lol

[steel hemlock]

Canada moment where it’s not stocked anywhere and more than half the price of importing one is shipping and tax

[fluid ravine]

Not worth the time

[fluid ravine]

KBDFANS Aliexpress

have you tried?

[steel hemlock]

That’s where I’m getting my tofu from

But it’s still expensive for what it is

[fluid ravine]

ah

damn unlucky

[harsh dove]

@median spade