🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

Red lines are Lekkers, Blue Lines are Lavenders

In other words, they work great

[brazen sparrow]

Confusing aaahh graph

[harsh dove]

Not really

[brazen sparrow]

I’m confused atleast

[polar iris]

what type of tape is good for tape mod? electrical?

[harsh dove]

lol no worries, tldr, it shows if a switch magnet is compatible with wooting or not basically

Like this chart shows a switch only maxing out at 2.6mm

Which would be a no go

[harsh dove]

Painters Tape or Moleskin or Keebtape

[polar iris]

k

none of those should damage the pcb right?

[harsh dove]

Nah

Just don’t use electrical or duct tape

[polar iris]

thanks

[agile grove]

if you do put a layer of painters tape first

[harsh dove]

Or that

[queen kernel]

Hey guys I wanted to get jade switches , just to confirm does 60he has 60 switches or 61 ?

[quiet bay]

61

[cedar gate]

61 BTW do you already have a tofu60 redux?

[harsh dove]

Did you buy jades already?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMyJP2e

[queen kernel]

About to check out just wanted to quick check whether is 60nor 61

[harsh dove]

https://swagkeys.com/products/neo-lavender-he

Also these

Same as jades basically but possibly cheaper for you

They’re basically closed bottom Geon Raptors

But with better magnets than the raptors

[queen kernel]

Thank definitely cheaper , with the same price but I could get 70 pcs instead of 60

[harsh dove]

Nice

[queen kernel]

Any idea for the plat ?

Is fr40 better or the wooting

[harsh dove]

Wooting PC plate is good

[queen kernel]

In term of sound

How's their stock availability

[harsh dove]

Should be available

They have black and white

[queen kernel]

Do you lube the jade ?

Or just leave them stock ?

[harsh dove]

I lubed mine but stock is good

[queen kernel]

Any good stab to recommend, as currently been mod to this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005510725375.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller.11.8931woCHwoCH54&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40000.326746.0&scm_id=1007.40000.326746.0&scm-url=1007.40000.326746.0&pvid=a09a37f9-4c22-4cfd-adbb-df349ede034a&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40000.326746.0,pvid:a09a37f9-4c22-4cfd-adbb-df349ede034a,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238108%23133&pdp_npi=4%40dis!MYR!148.40!74.20!!!31.00!15.50!%402101cff817172650492075701e3c9e!12000033361707311!rec!MY!912685427!&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A

[harsh dove]

Wooting stabs are good tbh

Otherwise Swagkeys Knights are nice too

Durocks as well

[cedar gate]

I'd get tx long pole tbh

[cedar gate]

BTW if you are planning to get tofu60 redux you can buy them and jades together and get 10$ off

15 if you use the code

[queen kernel]

Which code , damn I just checkout the jade

But still considering the tofu and stab

Perhaps another year another mod

[harsh dove]

Possible tolerances issues with tx ap stabs with wooting plates

[queen kernel]

It poison to come in and check out mod

[warm trail]

Hello everyone, i'd like to buy a wooting 60 with the french layout. I'd like to buy custom keycaps PBS, can someone guide me through ?

[median spade]

#🪛│modding_faq

[unique temple]

hey, am i allowed to talk about non wooting related keeb builds?

[quiet bay]

yeah

[pastel vigil]

is travel time 4 or 3.5 on these?

[harsh dove]

Listed as 3.8mm

[pastel vigil]

hmmm

Curious to try them, haven't tried any new switches in a while

But tbh I am loving the jades with 22mm springs so much hard to imagine something beating that

except for new jades that are dual rails lol

and better housing material

[wary pollen]

Currently testing these out, and I'll be streaming my thoughts on them tomorrow

[harsh dove]

Nice

I was wondering about the bottoms of those tbh

[wary pollen]

what about them?

[harsh dove]

Seems like they're basically closed bottom but open lol

[wary pollen]

closen't

[harsh dove]

precisely

[wary pollen]

can't wait for my client to send over their build cuz I don't have Jades on me to compare

[harsh dove]

Ah okay fair

[wary pollen]

so I'll have to make a follow up comparison stream later in the week

[harsh dove]

Yeah will be good to compare

Ah okay

Yeah I wanted to grab some but didn't feel like paying $57 for shipping

[wary pollen]

I think the only switches I don't have enough of on hand are KS-20's cuz I put em in a friend's build

[wary pollen]

Hope KBDfans picks em up like they did with Raptors

[harsh dove]

Yeah that's what I was hoping to wait on

[wary pollen]

cuz so far, I would recommend these as a drop in switch over Raptors atm

[harsh dove]

Yeah, they seem nice tbh

[fluid ravine]

Well isn't this interesting

[normal schooner]

No

if it doesnt thonk. don't call me

[pastel vigil]

Howdy hey

[old swallow]

how is the wobble on the lavenders? same as jades? raptors?

[harsh dove]

Similar to Jades

[old swallow]

okok

im tempted to pick some up, but im getting some with my QK65 already, and i kinda want to get the dual rail jades if those release

[tawdry tree]

Silicone standoffs with friction mount can be good if your O-Ring is on the softer side, to keep the PCB from hitting the standoffs.

[dire thicket]

I had some problems of rapid trigger with o'rign personnaly

But it was for the keycaps, so probably wont hapen

[tawdry tree]

Tbh, I’m not convinced the magnets are better or changed at all yet. Raptors worked perfectly fine for many people so it seems to be a QC issue rather than bad magnets overall maybe?

[tawdry tree]

Sick, please post here when you start stream 💯

[tawdry tree]

Exactly!! I really wonder what the sound will be

[brazen sparrow]

I feel like it will push the air in a cone motion as the gap is tighter

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-think-thinking-mind-gif-7453714

[knotty iron]

@harsh dove send a link for the neo lavenders

[old swallow]

^^

[harsh dove]

^^

[old swallow]

^^^

[sweet oak]

^^^^

[knotty iron]

ws v3.1 silicone black glitter
(edit: i will be testing them, and then I will get back with an answer, trying on 60HE+ and Q1 HE, later 80HE)

[stray tiger]

They worked out good for you? Did you have any issues?

[knotty iron]

well they seem promising

[stray tiger]

...

If someone asks you for a recommendation, you have to have at least tested it first

[knotty iron]

right

well I eill let you guys know when i get them

[tawdry ore]

most common sense requirement

[knotty iron]

Ill take that L

[tawdry ore]

w on the chin

[stray tiger]

They will likely work fine, but since you replied like you already had them I figured I'd confirm lol

[polar girder]

Yeah exactly

But better could be more consistent

[polar girder]

Yeah this x1000

[pallid spoke]

Question what keycaps with WS dash and also blue keycaps what type should I get for keycaps

[normal schooner]

ws dash?

This is the only right answer

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JHCzOnQQYZA

[heady terrace]

@median spade

not the greatest yet

made my silicone dampener today

its not o ring mounted yet either, but it has silicone insert and lavenders

[pallid spoke]

Wuque Studio's WS Dash HE switches

[pallid spoke]

I also have a tofu 60 blue

[normal schooner]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-take-control-5-sided-dye-sub-pbt-keycaps?Color=Ocean+Blue&Language=ANSI+United+States

what do u think about these bad boy keycaps

really good quality

[quiet bay]

oh damn...that color weirdly

scratches my brain in the right spot

[normal schooner]

poch

check sanders short

just posted

[quiet bay]

yee I watched it a while back I think

appeared in my recommended lol

[quiet bay]

dang what switches are those

[heady terrace]

neo lavenders

[quiet bay]

god damn it that's good 😔

it rlly doesn't have that he sound

[heady terrace]

yeeee its p good

personally not the biggest fan of them

a lot better than the frankenswitches

gonna switch to jades when i get them

[quiet bay]

I want new switches but I don't think I need them

I modded my lekkers to sound pretty decent

im strongly holding back the urge to waste my money on something new

[quiet bay]

Oh yeah, why?

[heady terrace]

i like the higher pitched sounds

i believe ill like the jades

[quiet bay]

ah ok so just preference

[heady terrace]

yea

[lone niche]

guys just two dumb question the first is what are the best switch in your opinion btw i'm ignorant so maybe i will tell something useless but i would like to use the keyboard for gaming so idk if the type of switch or spring change something in term of performance there are the best spring or switch, and in general what spring and switch you suggest me?

[quiet bay]

If you only care about performance you can just leave it as it is

If you find the Lekker 60 switches too heavy you can just switch to lekker 45s (easier to press on)

[lone niche]

ye but if i would like something that sounds better i have lose something in performance?

[smoky breach]

guys i need help i have jades and ive noticed my spacebar is inconsistent with the stabs are any other after market stabs u could recommend ?

[quiet bay]

If you want something that sounds better then I'd probably just go for Neo Lavendar HE Switches or Magnetic Jade Switches

not really knowledgable in the magnets they have

but I don't think they should affect performance that much

[fluid ravine]

Thats fire

[fluid ravine]

Pops approved, he tested them

[quiet bay]

how was the performance?

[fluid ravine]

All good 👍

[loud zephyr]

would definitely give the black & white a go if it weren't for the fonts

blankkss bby!

[fluid ravine]

Neo: 3.8mm travel
Jades: 3.5mm travel

[quiet bay]

oo ok nice

[fluid ravine]

Guess what i did

[old swallow]

O ring?

[fluid ravine]

nope

Tray mount

LMAO

[old swallow]

oh oop

[fluid ravine]

Just some polyfill and tray mount at work

[old swallow]

huh, i just have it mounted normally, and it doesnt bounce nearly as much lol

like, it barely moves

but tbf, thats what i like

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v613sO7-M4U

Got inspiration from this^

[old swallow]

ngl, i aint watching all that

its 4 am lol

[heady terrace]

thoughts? @harsh dove

[fluid ravine]

0:00 and 13:45

Polyfill without and with

but skip to 13:45 it shows how tray mount and polyfill would work on sound and feel

[fluid ravine]

are you using case foam?

[heady terrace]

handmade silicone insert

[cedar gate]

Is tray mount good on wooting and is burger or gasket mounting necessary

[fluid ravine]

What about pad?

[fluid ravine]

In terms of?

[cedar gate]

?

[fluid ravine]

Like sound? Isolation? Feel?

[cedar gate]

Like specs

[fluid ravine]

Specs?

Elaborate

[cedar gate]

In general ig?

[cedar gate]

Tofu case jade switches pc plate in future pbtfans keycaps

[fluid ravine]

Well its preference like we always say

[fluid ravine]

You like your board stiff or a bit softer

[cedar gate]

Honestly idk stiff ig?

What do most people like?

[fluid ravine]

Dont got a statistic chart for that sorry

[cedar gate]

I'm kinda new to this hobby only a few years in a few months with wooting

[cedar gate]

Lol

[fluid ravine]

Lol

Let's just focus on you though

[cedar gate]

If soft is where the board actually goes down when you press it hard then I want it stiff

Like if the module will legit move downwards than no that feels kinda cheap to me

[fluid ravine]

Ok if you want it stiff then for sure go with tray mount

Burger mount counts as well

[fluid ravine]

@cedar gate its more like this

where it bounces in the case to give a softer typing experience

most expensive keyboards would have a gasket mounted system to provide

[heady terrace]

silicone pad

[cedar gate]

Yeah not my thing I want it stiff

[fluid ravine]

Ok yeah then just go for tray mount or burger mount

I haven't done burger mount in a while so I dont really remember what it usually does if that makes sense

BURGER MOUNT – This mod is aimed at reducing the sound differences occasionally heard at the mounting points on tray mounted keyboards. This is more prominent with aluminum cases as the frequency changes at the mounting points can be amplified in a metal case. This a simple mod that only requires some 1mmx4mm rubber/silicone o-rings and some slightly longer mounting screws (M2*5-6). The goal is to try and isolate the PCB from the case by placing o-rings on the mounting screws between the PCB and the stand-offs (optionally, you can place a second o-ring between the screw head and the PCB). You can find the Wooting results from burger mounting in this video - https://youtu.be/tlPX6gYSxyU

Ok there you go

Keep in mind that tray mount tends to have "dead spots" throughout the keeb, which means there will be uneven sounds un some parts keebs

[fluid ravine]

Oh i see, cus i was about to say why the case sounds a bit hollow imo

[heady terrace]

yea

no oring installed rn yet either

[fluid ravine]

Prob the recording since your phone is on the desk

[heady terrace]

that too

[cedar gate]

I think I may do gasket mount but with a super hard gasket so I get even sound with no bounce sounds good?

[heady terrace]

you cant really gasket mount it

[fluid ravine]

Just do friction mount

Oring

Actually

[cedar gate]

Aren't they the same

Am I dumb

[fluid ravine]

Well yes

[cedar gate]

Yes to the dumb or the same lol

[fluid ravine]

Ill explain

hollup

Normal O'ring mounted boards like the bakeneko requires PCBs that have half circle cutouts along the edge for the oring to sit on the posts of the case (Half circles at the edge inside the case). Depending on what hardness you use, it will define how soft or stiff your typing feel would be.

Friction mount however, uses the same O'ring but this mount is used specifically for tray mounted boards. Your module would use the O'ring as something to keep it in the case without it falling out and your pcb would be sitting on the standoffs and posts.

So either way even if you do use friction mount, its still stiff but now there's less or no dead spots in the keeb which means your keeb will now sound more even

The best way to achieve bounce with friction mount is polyfill or any case foam that gives a return bounce feedback.

[fluid ravine]

@cedar gate Sorry had to reread it a few times for it to make sense. Bit brain dead rn.

[paper bloom]

I meant on ur mx stem LOL

And its more

[cedar gate]

Sounds good thx

I wish 80he didn't have that led strip or that would have been perfect for me lol

[late kindle]

Btw anyone knows if lubing the keycaps again would make a difference in the typing experience?, i read that the wooting keeb comes prelubed but i was wondering if lubing it again would make a difference

[marsh saffron]

Hand lubed is always better

[paper bloom]

Hand lubing it for switches is way better

But make sure youre consistent with it

[late kindle]

Ahh i see alright

Thanks

[paper bloom]

But make sure to clean your factory lube once first

[late kindle]

Alrightt

[quiet bay]

Nah just lube over the existing lube

[tawdry tree]

idk what u mean, silicone standoffs as friction mount 🧐

[tawdry tree]

Cam didn’t find it to be a noticeable difference

[paper bloom]

Idk about this one

[paper bloom]

I'll show u the cursed shit

[paper bloom]

THIS IS FROM A SILICONE KBDFANS STANDOFF

[paper bloom]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-standoff-silicone-cover I used this fuck here to achieve this

@tawdry tree

BUT i can 100% say it is not worth it unless u can stuff some of it below the keycap when frictioned

It does stop some pinging tho

To a degree

[brazen sparrow]

Ks-20u’s?

[paper bloom]

Na Lekker L45's

[tawdry tree]

oh you meant you used the silicone standoffs as spacers. not to friction mount with, that got me so confused bro

how in the world would an tiny o-ring stretch around the whole module

lmao

that’s what I thought

[paper bloom]

O LMAO

[paper bloom]

Its considered still a sort of friction mount

Cuz of the fitting

[harsh dove]

Lavenders are 52g and Jades are 50g

Not noticeable

[harsh dove]

Not bad, kinda hollow, but probably because no deskpad/keebmat and idk what mods you running

[paper bloom]

O i c

[paper bloom]

Wait what i thought jades were 37?

For stock

[harsh dove]

That's starting force

[paper bloom]

OH

[harsh dove]

and it's 30 +- 7

meaning anywhere between 23 and 37

Lavenders are 42 - 52 and they don't list +-

[paper bloom]

O i c

[unique temple]

my future keeb build, it will have hmx hyacinth v2's

[unique temple]

any opinions?

[paper bloom]

but the jades are 50 gram springs right

[harsh dove]

Yeah the end force is about 50g

[paper bloom]

Ok that makes sense

WELP looks like i might forego the jades then

[heady terrace]

just tape mod

w lavenders and silicone case and insert

[harsh dove]

what plate?

[heady terrace]

pc plate

o ring isn’t in yet

[tawdry tree]

spacers is the right word, “mount” generally refers to the way the PCB is mounted in the case.

[paper bloom]

One way to put it

Friction spacers then

[inner void]

hey guys just wanted to know if i can use the kbdfans switch pads and is it even worth it?

[heady terrace]

this one is with case foam and silicone insert

[frank bolt]

What type of keycaps are compatible with the wooting 60 he

I want like dark see through ones with yellow or orange lettering or a orange and black set of keycaps

[dapper kernel]

keycaps with mx stem

[radiant ether]

guys, if without changing the case, then what mods can be completed here, the switches were ordered by Gateron Magnetic Jades, stabs: TX AP Plate Mount Long Pole(The mods I currently have are:PC Plate,Switch Pads,Burger Mount,Lubed stabs,Tape Mode)

[pure magnet]

Anyone on European or German Amazon aware of some good cheap dampening foam?

Thick one

Only ones it's showing me is either stupid acoustic panels, adhesive ones, soft ones or simply weird stuff

[visual sonnet]

can someone send me links for burger mount hoop things?

[visual sonnet]

use the one from factory from wooting. Probably the best

[wind karma]

guys.. after using the klippe t for a while i actually think i just prefer 0 degree typing angle :/ my mouse control is much worse with the high typing angle sadly... i kinda have some buyers remorse even tho the klippe t is a great case

sounds like a weird issue but yeah

[paper bloom]

You gotta tilt

The keyboard

Sometimes the reason why is cuz of the way you place your hands on ur desk and how u manuever

sometimes its also desk height

[paper bloom]

You've done everything to what can be done unless you wanna do a cardboard pad

LOOL

Or a silicone O ring mount on your mx stems for your stabilizers just to fuck around and find out

Or you can run cardboard resin keycaps or coated waterproof Keycaps

[radiant ether]

it's maximum with stock case? Gateron Magnetic Jades,TX AP Plate Mount Long Pole,PC Plate,Switch Pads,Burger Mount,Lubed stabs,Tape Mode(3 layer)

[paper bloom]

BRO YOU DID EVERY MOD THERE IS

Besides the stock case change out

You can run a alumaze or other cases

[radiant ether]

oh

thx bro

[paper bloom]

You can do a

Cardboard pad change tho

Just change the padding inside for a piece of cardboard

make sure its the size of those pack boxes take their lids and cut it to the PCB's size and then cut holes inside

and then the uhh USB cutout

Youre good to go

[radiant ether]

cardboard pad

[paper bloom]

IDK if you wanna do that honestly

I did it with mine it isnt that bad but i swapped it out for some foam

[radiant ether]

Overall this is my maximum... just switch case and chill out

[paper bloom]

Thats one way to do it if not just do the extra mile and run a cardboard pad

Its legit poppy af with it tho

Thats something I wont cap

You can always experiment

LOL

[radiant ether]

it's useless?

[paper bloom]

I legit ran it ? ive done it ?

Either way its your choice

[radiant ether]

order it with material poron?

[paper bloom]

I mean if you wanna have cardboard as a side step and wanna experiment then do it?

@radiant ether

[pure magnet]

Mean for keycap dampening

Spacebar

[paper bloom]

Which ones are u looking for

[pure magnet]

To put dampening in the spacebar and possibly bigger caps

[paper bloom]

get a keycap whwich you got

get a keycap foam

[pure magnet]

It's only precut for expensive prices

[paper bloom]

https://www.amazon.sg/YIMAGUJRX-Keyboard-Stabilizers-Silencer-Mechanical/dp/B0BW5JVCWV/ref=sr_1_1? Find something like this

[heady terrace]

do you think the oring will help with the hollowness?

[pure magnet]

I wish I could just find foam like that and just cut it myself

[paper bloom]

It shld work

[pure magnet]

Next Wooting

[little glen]

Has anyone here tried the gmk MTNU keycaps?

They look interesting but idk how the profile feels and all that

[quiet bay]

I want that to bring around with in my pocket (if it fits) just so that I can pull it out whenever I feel the need to type on a keyboard

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[timid pollen]

I just changed my switches to jades, now it's double clicking like crazy.. any solution?

[harsh dove]

Update firmware

[pure magnet]

I mean it'd be perfect for fps

[lament grotto]

Hey guys. My USB C cable feels super.. loose in the Tofu 60 Redux with the 60HE Module. Any tips? Im currently amazoning a usb c extender to see if its just a clearance issue..

[median spade]

Just how it be

[lament grotto]

like. it disconnects at the slightest touch. extremely finnicky

[median spade]

Yeah it's already p bad on the regular pcb and using a extender will add to that

mine pretty loose

[wind karma]

i used to use my old keyboard with no tilt and i really liked that

i can't change that with the klippe T of course

[shadow juniper]

Hello back, I need some precisions, u use ur switch then ur DRV5053 then CD74HC4067SM96 then GD32F303 and that all ? Or u use other things ? Bcs DRV5053 is not a sensor no ? So u use probably again a sensor like A1308 or sensor like that no ?
Bcs u say [composants jelly bean](#🔧│keyboard_modding message) so I see and most part of time its pretty expensive no?

[obsidian moat]

Hey guys, I've just ordered WS dashes for my wooting, I also got poron switch pads, does anybody know if these will cause any issues with jades/dashes ?

[median spade]

Cancel the switch pads as they do nothing

Otherwise fine

[obsidian moat]

They were only 2 euro, poron switch pads 0.4mm from Ali express, you mean they do nothing for the sound or will they affect performance? I currently have lekker 45s hand lubed so I'm just going for a different sound, hence the switch pads

[frosty delta]

anyone got coiled cable suggestions? heard some cables have performance issues

[median spade]

Nothing for sound

I tried ixpe, poron, and Eva

[lost merlin]

So you have the 60he?

You could try oring mounting

[lost merlin]

They could have performance issues, the pressure could cause the switches to sit at different heights which messes with hall effect accuracy, also they could just pop out of the plate if you have a soft plate like pc

[austere creek]

drv5053 is a sensor

and we dont use drv5053

we use a completely different sensor but its basically impossible to get for normal consumers unless you want to order over 100000 of them

[fresh blade]

does the "Gateron Magnetic Jade Switches" also have the actuation ability?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[fresh blade]

ty

[stuck plover]

Do you know some less louder switches with the actuation ability?

[shadow juniper]

Damn its a lot of, but can I see her reference ? Gemini told me the DRV5053 is not a sensor car u told me what difference ?? So basically I can use DRV5053 with a magnetic switch, right ?

[tawdry tree]

All abilities magnetic switches have are just the PCBA, the switches themselves don’t do much really. A less loud switch would be the KS-20U dual rail, the KS-20 (Lekker), the Raptor HE or if you want the most quiet switch; a KS-20 stem in a Raptor HE housing.

[austere creek]

it literally is an analog sensor

https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/drv5053.pdf?ts=1717268956684

please just read the datasheet and you will see its a sensor

[sharp vigil]

a 40% Wooting would be interesting

or whatever that is, 20%, idk

[brazen sparrow]

0.01% wooting

[shadow juniper]

I read it ? https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/drv5053.pdf
Is it in title

[shadow juniper]

But what did u use u so ?

[stuck plover]

Thank you

[untold wigeon]

Stupid question, how do you remove the stabs in the Module HE+? All the tutorials I've seen show a clip you just press on to unhook them. These ones, I had to unscrew but I still can't get them out

[old swallow]

the videos you saw were using clip in stabs, and the module comes with screw in stabs indeed, but those are pretty simple to get out. its literally just unscrew them pretty much

[untold wigeon]

I've done that but they still seem to be stuck in place

Hold on, let me get a picture

[old swallow]

do you have switches in the board?

[untold wigeon]

Ah yeah I do, do I need to remove those?

[old swallow]

yea

just the ones on the stabs

[untold wigeon]

Oh right, yeah those are removed

[old swallow]

since the stabilizer wire has to come out aswell

euhm, send a pic then yeah, since otherwise idk what the issue seems to be

[untold wigeon]

Ah, I think I see it. This clip thing seems to be stopping it

[polar girder]

Tile it upwards from the front

[untold wigeon]

I'm conscious of the tracers behind the clip though

[polar girder]

Once angled the clip comes free and slides out

[old swallow]

yeah, that seems to be it

[polar girder]

Don’t just pull up straight

Just lift the screw-in part up until it pulls out

[untold wigeon]

As in push it to the front?

Then up

So, I'm pushing the stab housing to the front of the pcb then pulling up. However, the clips never fully clear the hole

[polar girder]

No don’t push

The eraser side is the clipped in side

Just tilt it

It comes right out easily

[untold wigeon]

Ah, good video, I'll give it a try

Ok, I must have a massive skill issue as it isn't budging

[old swallow]

why are you wanting to remove stabs tho? you want to replace them?

[untold wigeon]

I'm pulling up the front part of the stab housing, not pushing in any direction.

[untold wigeon]

Lube and holee mod. They're rattling and ticking a fair whack

[old swallow]

aah ok

im still using the stock stabs on my module, and theyre not too bad

[untold wigeon]

The red arrow is where I'm pulling

Excuse the cursed drawing

[old swallow]

right euhm

i think this is what is supposed to happen

if that makes sense

[untold wigeon]

Yeah, however, the stabs are right against the switch plate so they can't be pushed any further

[old swallow]

hmm

[old swallow]

idk really, since i think you should just be able to push it up a little bit from underneath, then you should be able to tilt it out

[pure magnet]

Anyone can recommend foam from German Amazon to dampen a spacebar or bigger keys in general?

Can only find stupid soft foam

Nothing solid

[quiet bay]

maybe you can find an adhesive dampener meant for like cars or something

[pure magnet]

Yeah I dunno, that stuff sometimes can rub off color

These car things

I remember I had that for speakers

And then it rubbed off on them 😭

What was the thickness again? 2 mm?

Or 4

[untold wigeon]

Ended up separating the PCB and switch plate to get it out. All good now, thanks for the help 🙂

Same for Bigsly

[tawdry tree]

What you drew in yellow, the switch plate, you need to remove that first. The base of the stabilizers don’t fit through the plate so you have to take that off first.

[tawdry tree]

I think 4mm is too thick and will interfere with the switch and stabs. 2mm should be fine.

[tawdry tree]

Exactly, well done. That’s the only way without breaking anything 😉

[shadow juniper]

So anybody now what sensor Wooting use in they’re keyboard ?

[cedar gate]

Analog sensors so won't work with optical or anything

[cedar gate]

3 safest options for switch swap is ks20u jades and raptors

[shadow juniper]

What sensors they use, he told me he didn’t use Drv5053 and he told me they use a sensor who some lot of people can’t buy it

[shadow juniper]

Yep but ? I don’t understand where u want to go ?

[paper bloom]

I c

[shadow juniper]

I don’t speak about switch swap ?

[cedar gate]

I thought u were asking about the sensors because you wanted to see if your switch was compatible

I don't know the exact sensor they use but it is an analog sensor

If you want to solder a module your prolly out of luck

[smoky breach]

how are these for the wooting and jades/ dashes

[cedar gate]

The sensor?

[shadow juniper]

Ah no no sorry for my question

[cedar gate]

It's alr lol but out of curiosity why did you need to know

[shadow juniper]

Yep I know but idk what is it exactly

[shadow juniper]

I'm just curious and I like retro engineering

[smoky breach]

the stupid stabs

[cedar gate]

Huh alr ig

[cedar gate]

What stabs lol

[smoky breach]

stupid stabilzers but wuq studio

by

[cedar gate]

Stock?

[smoky breach]

-_- one sec

[shadow juniper]

Sorry my English is not perfect so I don’t understand that ?

[cedar gate]

That ain't English it's internet slang it means fair enough

[smoky breach]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/ws-stupid-stabilizer @cedar gate someone linked these here

[shadow juniper]

Ah xD okay but yep u know I’m French xD

[smoky breach]

and i wanna know if there good alternatives

[cedar gate]

LMAO I WAS SO CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAID STUPID STABS

[shadow juniper]

So if anybody now or want to told me pls mention me !

[cedar gate]

Tx ap long pole classic choice

[smoky breach]

1.6t ?

or 1.2

[cedar gate]

.6

Wooting pcb thickness is 1.6 mm

[smoky breach]

and they will be fine with my dashes ?

[cedar gate]

.2 is incompatible

[smoky breach]

theres too many stabs idk what to go for..

[cedar gate]

Yeah long pole stabs are great with dashes

[cedar gate]

In general just get what's popular and 99% of the time you won't go wrong

Tx ap stabs are most common choice I think

What other mods u doing?

[smoky breach]

i'll have to do my research before i impulse buy xd

and nothing else i think ive done everything else

[cedar gate]

Jades and stab swap and nothing else?

[smoky breach]

check wookstations ive listed what ive done so far

[polar girder]

Oh my bad yeah I thought you had already separated the plate off. Good to hear.

[untold wigeon]

No worries, looking at the way it's set up, it should've been obvious to me

[old swallow]

oh, didnt see this yet, but np

[brazen sparrow]

Cam was going to test those stabs so I want he has them and he could probably tell you for certain if they’re good or not.

[polar girder]

GStew wins the tournament

Go NA

great finals. Crazy that NA only has one dude in the majority of the playoffs let alone one in the final.

[urban harbor]

people need to stop recommending tx stabs without the caveat that you might have clearance issues

#🪛│modding_faq message

[harsh dove]

#🪛│modding_faq will answer most of your questions

[polar girder]

People need to more broadly recommend stuff they’ve never used. Pure hearsay echo chamber.

[cedar gate]

Wooting may actually be the first fully custom keyboard I've ever built

I have done a few swaps and tape mods but I've never actually swapped everything

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s facts for me

Just the module PCB is stock Wooting st this point

Oh and cable lol

[cedar gate]

Yeah thockfather did a great job with faq it covers most questions

[uneven cradle]

been dangerous for my wallet that's for sure

[uncut musk]

in the alumaze

[pure magnet]

Half a meter

15 Euro

Wait 16

This should be like 5 bucks

I used to get stuff like that for 3 bucks on Amazon

[jaunty pumice]

Hmm so. I've got the following and it's like ALMOST perfect. Except the spacebar is super squishy?

Tofu Redux
FR4 Plate
Insert and foam from the above

Wondering if anybody has any tips on getting it as "thunk"-y as the other keys?

[visual sonnet]

what are the mods?

also question for everyone, when lubing the switches, what should i lube for the 60he switches specifically?

[heady terrace]

only tape mod

[visual sonnet]

what’s that?

also don’t you have a different case

[harsh dove]

Sounds or Feels squishy?

Could be the stabs

[jaunty pumice]

Feel

Bought some lube

[harsh dove]

Could be over lubed

[jaunty pumice]

tbh sounds kinda squishy too :/

Thing is like, fresh new out the box

But it does look really lubed

[harsh dove]

Did you lube the stabs yourself ?

[jaunty pumice]

Nope all factory

[harsh dove]

You can try removing some of the lube

[jaunty pumice]

Like it feels like it's gonna stick to the bottom. As if I'd spilled soda into it

[harsh dove]

Lube could've gotten under the stem/housing

which would cause that

I'd take those stabs off and clean underneath them and remove some of the lube and then reinstall

[cedar gate]

With jades is kdbfans fr4 better or wooting pc

[harsh dove]

Personal preference

[cedar gate]

I want a mix if clack and thock

Like thocky jades would be awesome

For feel I want it stiff not bouncy

[harsh dove]

You can try it and see what you think

[jaunty pumice]

Sorry keyboard noob. Where would that be like, under the plate in between the stab?

[harsh dove]

between the stab and the pcb

[jaunty pumice]

Ah

And that would cause it how? Like, it's on the bar or something?

[harsh dove]

If there's lube underneath the stab housing/stem then it can make it feel sticky

[stray tiger]

Did I miss the stream?

[wary pollen]

nah, i'm still setting up lol

in a few hours, i'd say

I'd say give or take in 6 hours I'll be live

[stray tiger]

I'll be dead asleep but go with stream!

Looks like the Black Jades have a 2 stage spring.

[lost merlin]

if they would only finally have an opaque top housing

[fluid ravine]

Couldve been a Oil King HE

[visual sonnet]

does the tape mod affect the rapid trigger and stuff?

[quiet bay]

Tape mod on the back of the pcb? No

[visual sonnet]

alright thank you

what mods do you recommend for a good sound?

[gilded hinge]

is the black one different material

[quiet bay]

What sound profile r u going for

[gilded hinge]

like in terms of stem and housing

[quiet bay]

On the deeper pitch side or higher pitch

[visual sonnet]

deeper

[quiet bay]

Ok so you can just keep all the foam in there

Use a pc plate

Instead of steel plate

[visual sonnet]

doesn’t it come with a PC plate?

[quiet bay]

R u going module or 60he prevuilt

[visual sonnet]

60he

[quiet bay]

yeah that one comes with a steel plate

Pc plate gives off a lower pitch sound

Tape mod also helps

I use 1 layer of masking tape and 1 layer of moleskin tape

1 layer of masking tape because the moleskin tape is kinda sticky

[visual sonnet]

i’m changing the case too

[visual sonnet]

got it

[quiet bay]

But moleskin tape does make it pretty deep

I would just experiment with tape mod

Btw are you switching out the switches too?

[visual sonnet]

nah

[quiet bay]

hmm alr well if ur ever not satisfied with the switches’ sound u can always just switch to better sounding he switches down the line

Hand lubing is also pretty good to do to make the sound and feel more consistent

[visual sonnet]

nah i got the keyboard for the switches. I play competitive games, so the rapid trigger and stuff is useful

[visual sonnet]

oh yeah

i’m switching my case to a tofu 60

[quiet bay]

Ah nah im talking about magnetic switches that still work with wooting’s software

[visual sonnet]

ohhh i see

[quiet bay]

Redux? Or version 1

[visual sonnet]

https://aussiekeyboards.com.au/collections/mechanical-keyboard-cases/products/kbdfans-tofu-60-black-aluminium-case

whatever this is

[quiet bay]

Ok yeah that should work

[uneven cradle]

damn they still got original tofu60s in stock

[quiet bay]

Forgot to say but you also wanna put some work into your stabilizers so that they dont tick or rattle

or atleast reduce that noise

[visual sonnet]

i’ll later lube it down the line

i’m gonna watch a Badseed Texh video on modding the Wooting

he does it all and gives comparisons and thoughts

@quiet bay one last question, i got the braided cable with my one. Can i still use that high polling rate with it?

[quiet bay]

Uhh the wooting 60 has 1000 polling rate, do u mean like tachyon mode or something?

[visual sonnet]

yeah that’s the one

[quiet bay]

I mean as long as it’s a maximum of 6ft it should power it enough

[visual sonnet]

i got the one from Wooting

[quiet bay]

Oh yeah ofc it will

[visual sonnet]

okay sweet. thank you for your time

[quiet bay]

np 👍

[visual sonnet]

sorry wait, one more question 😭😭

promise it’s the last

but what’s north and south facing switches?

[quiet bay]

Ok so

North facing switches have led go through on the top

South facing switches is that but on the bottom

[visual sonnet]

why do people change it?

[quiet bay]

hm ig the way people want to differently direct the light to?

I’d say one advantage on south facing led is that it lights up side legends better

Also

[visual sonnet]

alright, that could help considering i got the 50/50 caps from wooting too and it’s on the side.

[quiet bay]

It also depends on the pcb on where the led is

[visual sonnet]

i see, https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?si=9QL1Bgw1XIgECVcD 5:03 he makes it seem like a major thing. Is it really or?

[quiet bay]

If the light on the pcb is north facing ur gonna wanna use switches that have a north facing window for light to shine through better

Opposite works for the south facing switches

[visual sonnet]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-take-control-5-sided-dye-sub-pbt-keycaps?Color=Black+%26+White&Language=ANSI+United+States

i’m using these ones

would i do north or south for this?

[quiet bay]

Oh it doesnt rlly matter

[agile grove]

it doesnt matter

[quiet bay]

Cause the lights on the pcb are north facing anyway lol

[visual sonnet]

ah i see. Not sure why the youtuber made it sound important

[agile grove]

the keyboard comes preinstalled north facing and I dont really see a point in flipping every switch around

[agile grove]

there used to be tolerance issues with cherry profile keycaps so the general consensus was that if you arent going to be using shine through then flip your switches to be south facing. iirc these issues have been fixed and you wont have issues with a large majority of keycaps.

[visual sonnet]

got it

thank you

[glossy pagoda]

This is correct. There are individual keycap sets out there with tolerance problems, but it is extremely rare. No reason to swap the switches around unless you specifically need to.

[cold bloom]

I put my previously lubbed L60 stems and springs into my jade switches and I'm happily surprised with the results, I think the lube helps but I prefer the heavier spring weight for sure. Currently have my pcb/plate gummy oring mounted in a tofu case with a 70A oring.

[pure magnet]

It does matter no? When it comes to RGB

I asked and they said it's best to leave it in stock position

Is that correct?

Switch position

[tawdry tree]

Ain’t no way Cherry releasing a whole new switch type before a magnetic switch. https://www.cherry-world.com/mx-multipoint-silver

[dapper kernel]

it looks good

might be better than he switches

[pure magnet]

inductive I see

So, that would require again completely new boards?

[pure magnet]

Aren't HE switches also based on induction?

Looks like the way cherry designed it will have much more scratching noise?

[tawdry tree]

I would think power consumption is a lot higher and accuracy lower. Probably cheaper to produce than magnetic switches.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[crimson sky]

no

[crimson sky]

don't think power consumption would need to be higher

[tawdry tree]

I don’t get what’s needed on the PCB to make them functional

[harsh dove]

“The CHERRY MX MULTIPOINT series is combining in an innovative way induction with the MX switch to
achieve an revolutionary analogue key switch. The result is not only a switch supporting an adjustable actuation point or rapid triggering.”

They got some good English on their datasheet

[crimson sky]

you need coils on them

like topre

[little glen]

I dont see what would make this much better than HE 🤔

Maybe it could be a little more accurate? But other than that it looks proprietary as fuck

[tawdry tree]

I thought about this before, could you actually make a tactile bump that you can feel this way? The magnetic field is too weak but if it were stronger, it could work right? A haptic analog keyboard? 🥴

[paper bloom]

Looking at it is probs a long pole

[paper bloom]

Probs magnent materials

[tawdry tree]

If you’re going by how the stem looks, that’s just MX stems for ya. It’s not a long pole switch in this case.

[pure magnet]

HE is also induction based btw

Just different implemention

Implementation

[paper bloom]

I meant the uhh pole down bottoming

[pure magnet]

All magnet based things are induction based

[little glen]

Incorrect

Fridge magnets arent

[idle pier]

fridge magnets arent based

[little glen]

Fridge magnets are induction cringe?

[pure magnet]

The coil is on the PCB

The switch has a piece of metal going up and down

I mean, it's not the same but it kind of is

Only difference would be that the HE might be more prone to disturbance since it's a magnet moving up and down

But technically the HE would be more accurate

[tawdry tree]

With induction there’s an electromagnet in the PCB and with HE there’s a magnet in the switch, that’s correct?

[pure magnet]

While the MX multipoint needs to create a magnetic field on the board, this seems to be to me less reliable than an HE switch, just from an execution point of view

[pure magnet]

Yes that's how I see it as well

I mean not a magnet, it needs to create induction

There will be coils in the stem of the PCB

Which with electricity will create induction

[tawdry tree]

Yes it’s not an electromagnet I think, for that it’d need something in the middle

[little glen]

It might end up cheaper/easier to produce the switches since you dont need a magnet with specific strength

Which seems to be an issue with he atm

However having a proprietary implementation that is probably patented could drive up the costs/remove any chance at competition

[tawdry tree]

I think it’s more that most magnetic switches are upcharged a ton but yeah, those switches seem cheaper to produce. Not sure what’s necessary on the PCB though

[pure magnet]

Yup but technically an HE switch when it comes to accuracy should be superior

[tawdry tree]

because a permanent magnet’s magnetic field is more stable?

[pure magnet]

Sure it's more straightforward than creating induction on the board

I guess coils and a piece of metal are cheaper as @little glen said than a magnet

But there is a higher chance of malfunction on the board itself then

Because each socket then needs to be kind of powered

[little glen]

Could also argue that it‘s easier to control the magnetic field if you make it yourself with a coil instead of relying on a manufacturer to get the magnet strength just right

[pure magnet]

Yup

Downside then though is that it's less analog than an HE switch

With the each socket 's coil

And more prone to board defects

I mean that was the beauty of mechanical switches originally

Maybe lighter actuation?

I think cherry like to have patents

They probably thought "how can we make an own switch that we can patent that's similar to HE ones"

And to make it more cost effective

[tawdry tree]

I thought it’d have to draw more power because in HE the magnetic field is always provided unlike with induction

[pure magnet]

Yes they'll need more power and will have probably a small power stage at every coil, don't like that

Ship has sailed anyways since Wooting and Steelseries

Who's gonna build now new keyboards with this? might be interesting in 3 years down the road. You know how long it took Wooting to get HE right

[tawdry tree]

It could take a while but I don’t think Cherry would come with this if it wasn’t good.

[little glen]

Maybe some of the big players that havent entered the HE market

Like razer or logitech

[pure magnet]

Yeah they'll use the cherry one

[little glen]

Since cherry already did all the r&d could be a compelling option for the execs over there

[pure magnet]

That'll be the difference, Corsair and Razer coming out with the Multipoint vs Steelseries and Wooting / the rest HE

Is it gonna make a difference? Probably not

HE already works the way it's supposed to. Do you see any room for improvement?

I dunno, I just love the analogy of a simple magnet (being the closest to analog) vs induction

I mean @little glen is right, it's gonna be way easier and cheaper to produce

But then, the amount of malfunctioning boards will be higher

[paper bloom]

There are many ways to improve the switch design

Such as a more reinforced polycarbonate switch housing and a more reinforced RGB glass reinforcement and a different method to pull out

instead of running traditional switches pull method or Taking out the entire thing you could run a perhaps a proto method where the pull tabs of the switch cld be at the side instead of front and back

The reason why HE switches is altough still mature (Wootings and gaterons) Is cuz of the magnet and how the PCB works, At some point Razer and corsair altough multi million dollar company

but they will never be what wooting has done

Wooting is ATLEAST 3 years ahead of bigger companies

and the directions of how it is also depends on how Wooting decides to go and do where and im sure everyones all for it

[little glen]

Development also just takes longer the bigger the company is

[paper bloom]

not rlly it depends on who u deal with

Sometimes is the higher ups that picks u out or marks u and then decline down that design

Razer runs a more tyrant style of work while logitech prefers dominating a certain market and space than focus on the keyboards side

Steelseries designs as well differ but theyre solid af

O and dont forget to account for traditional systems compared to untraditional systems when it comes to B2C and as well as how things can be done, there are so many factors when it comes to it but in the end idk thats just my 2 cents

[uneven cradle]

Giving these big peripheral companies way too much credit

this is what they're really doing https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1372i1u/i_used_to_work_for_asus_for_3_12_years_and_i_need/

[paper bloom]

Na i aint giving them credit but im just saying what i think when it comes to how big companies dominate

[uneven cradle]

"I'm basically paraphrasing at this point because I quit working for ASUS back in late 2019 so it's been quite a few years since then but essentially the product design team in Taipei replied with a very long email expressing how they all believe that lightweight mice are bad for gamers, terrible for their accuracy and would result in questionable build quality and essentially they're not interested in making "inferior" gaming peripherals."

[paper bloom]

Dont forget the back of the minds of the big 3 fear wooting

IF wooting keeps booming and shit and they start dominating the market

Soon a SME will be able to topple LME

[crimson sky]

heard much worse

TB chucking their entire PC development in the grinder because they couldn't fulfil stupid goals by people that don't get the PC market

[crimson sky]

tbh I don't think the engineers "fear" any company

and the higher ups only see sales numbers anyways

in which case wooting is like a blip compared to them

[paper bloom]

It isnt the engineers

Its the higher ups that fear

[crimson sky]

[paper bloom]

When they see a potential esp even for SME

they will fear

[crimson sky]

very much don't think so

[paper bloom]

WELP we'll never know

[crimson sky]

I mean

[paper bloom]

But thats all ik

[little glen]

It‘ll take so long for wooting to catch up in brand recognizability and reputation etc etc that i have a hard time imagining execs at places like razer being concerned

[paper bloom]

Na it wont

The direction i am seeing rn its alrdy recognized and reputable

The issue is mostly the people

[little glen]

They probably think as long as they can bring out a product that is even slightly competitive they will get more sales than wooting

Which is probably true

[paper bloom]

It is

LOl

[paper bloom]

but they fail at that

[little glen]

I mean you have to get the logitech mousepad, mouse, keyboard, monitor, headphones, desk and chair for things to work well right

[paper bloom]

those are different market pools

BUT if we see like an feature that the people wants ig the wireless side is being dominated

They are legit authorized shops in Singapore who sells wooting products for a mark up for 400 bucks

LOL

https://shopee.sg/Wooting-60HE--i.115916127.25823898703?sp_atk=3dcd15b0-d223-44b4-a674-1d79e014b6d7&xptdk=3dcd15b0-d223-44b4-a674-1d79e014b6d7

[little glen]

Go shopee

I remember the ads

[paper bloom]

LOL

[paper bloom]

But that shop sells in Sim lim square

The fact that i cld get a wooting for 200+ while they sell for 400+

INCLUDING shipping is retarded af

[little glen]

I mean is that 400 sgd or usd

[paper bloom]

400 SGD

Which is like 370 USD

[little glen]

WHAT

[paper bloom]

Sorry 296*

For todays RATES

a wooting i cld buy off of the main store

[little glen]

Ok thats closer to what i remember

[paper bloom]

lemme check

rq

ITS ONLY 235

• shipping

@little glen

[little glen]

Thats usd no?

[paper bloom]

SGD

[paper bloom]

This is 400 SGD

[paper bloom]

THIS IS 279 SGD INCLUDING SHIPPING

[little glen]

Sim lim moment

[paper bloom]

LOL

[little glen]

I loved going there back when i lived in sg

Just a beautiful mess of pc parts and tech junk noone wants

[paper bloom]

I used to go there but it isnt worth it anymore

[little glen]

I wanna go back to sg but its so expensive and far

[paper bloom]

Id recommend not

[little glen]

My favorite restaurant closed after i left

[paper bloom]

Which one?

[little glen]

I dont think you‘d know it

[paper bloom]

Just say it i might know

[little glen]

73@hillcrest i think it was called

[paper bloom]

Was it an italian restraunt

[little glen]

No

[paper bloom]

There used to be an well known chicken rice Kopitiam nearby hillcrest

https://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/ShowUserReviews-g294265-d10621780-r495886963-73_Hillcrest-Singapore.html#photos;aggregationId=&albumid=&filter=

???

[little glen]

Yep

[paper bloom]

O that western food

[little glen]

Ye

It was very good

[paper bloom]

Yea it used to be good

Ive tried there once b4 If i am not wrong

[little glen]

I knew the owner and the chef cause i went there so often

[paper bloom]

im p sure they shut down cuz of the tenure

and it was too much money

There was a REALLY GOOD Korean place by boat quay

They've shutted down and Ive tasted their last fried chicken and bibimap

B4 it shutted down

2 days later

[little glen]

Yeah the landlord wanted more rent and they couldnt pay so they closed

[paper bloom]

Ye

Ngl landlord took an L

[crimson sky]

there is like one good pizza place where I live

and the rest is SUPER fucked

I can otherwise get like a mid döner at best

unironically the dominos is like top third for food places where I live 💀

[little glen]

Where i live rn we have a lot of good food options

Thank the lord

Idk what i‘ll do when i move

[paper bloom]

Where I live rn

Id need to walk atleast 2KM

just to get food

Or maybe a 200m walk

[little glen]

For me i walk down the stairs and maybe 50 meters

[paper bloom]

Its been a tiring ass day for me tho

Icl

[paper bloom]

I am now walking up and down the stairs like 20+ times

LOL

[quiet bay]

Yeah you can just leave it in stock position, it just doesnt matter too much and there’s not much of a point in switching it to south facing

[narrow saffron]

i don't know anything about keyboard modding but i have the 60HE+ and i'd like to get different keycaps, i'm not too particular with the way i want my keyboard to sound but i do care about how the keycaps look and longevity as well

[radiant ether]

What good budget stabilizers can be installed on PC Plate (TX AP Long Pole) are not suitable

[little glen]

Try to find doubleshot pbt keycaps if you want longevity

[narrow saffron]

mmmm, do any exist that will help my keyboard sound thocky/creamy?

[little glen]

You‘ll have to try and see for yourself

I‘m not the most knowledgeable but i think pbt has a deeper sound than abs so maybe you prefer that

[narrow saffron]

👍

[little glen]

There‘s also other keycap materials if those interest you

Like ceramic for example

[narrow saffron]

i'll probably go with pbt but im wondering if i should get the legends printed on the top or front

[little glen]

But if you want to improve sound i think there‘s other cheaper mods that will do more for you

[narrow saffron]

the real reason why i want new keycaps is because i find the legends on mine right now are fading

[little glen]

If your legends are fading make sure you get double shot keycaps

[tawdry tree]

someone that’s scared tries their best to get rid of whatever scares them, logitech casually releasing a 2015 60% gaming board years after wooting has been a thing. they do not care in the slightest about fast innovation. early bird catches the worm? no, big fucking bird catches big fucking worms

[sour blade]

i dont mind playing vs people with Broken keyboards that dont work properly

they should keep selling those

[raw tendon]

Is there a list/spreadsheet anywhere for hall effect switches? Im looking at trying something heavier but am having a hard time finding something that'd work on a wooting

[little glen]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[glacial wind]

you'd need to spring swap. Most HE switches aren't heavy

wooting sells spring packs though

[raw tendon]

Looks like I'll do this, ty

[radiant ether]

help plz

[pure magnet]

But is it for example better to. Make them south facing with GMK caps?

[crimson sky]

just try it out north facing

and if they interface (would be VERY obvious) just turn them around

[fluid ravine]

What's ur budget

And what's wrong with your stock stabilizers?

[radiant ether]

ordered everglide panda v3

I'll try them

[harsh dove]

Stock stabs are great

[harsh dove]

Although, I’m curious, did you already try the tx ap long pole?

[radiant ether]

no

[split dagger]

Anyone know some easy beginner mods I can do for my keyboard to sound better

[fluid ravine]

You can check out #🪛│modding_faq
Although most common mods you should know is lubing switches and stabilizers are usually everyone's first step to modding.

Then everything after that should be something that should fix something in your keyboard or tune it to how you would like it to sound and feel

So take your time on what you wanna do and make sure you have an expectation from it, if by chance you don't like it, make is really it's undo able like Tempest Tape Mod for example.

[split dagger]

Ok I mean I have already don’t something’s to my board such as I case swapped it and changed out the switches and keycaps

The keycaps look alot brighter in the pic there way darker in person

[fluid ravine]

Ah weren't you the one that just swapped out with some akko key caps?

[split dagger]

Yea

[fluid ravine]

(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᴵ ˢᵉᵉ

[split dagger]

That’s the complete board in the pic

[fluid ravine]

How is it so far?

[split dagger]

Very nice and sounds amazing

Never had a custom board before so it’s cool

[fluid ravine]

Well that's good to hear. If you already like the way it is then I suppose you don't really need to go any further unless Theressa a problem with it.

Glad you enjoy your board though

[split dagger]

The jades sound way nicer then the raptors I had in it before

Way way better

[fluid ravine]

Jade's upgrade yurr

[split dagger]

Yea I bought some raptors in Easter because L60 were to heavy for me but then I bought jades for the custom board

[fluid ravine]

Ah ic ic

[fluid ravine]

So rn you're just running a wooting with key caps and case swap with some jades?

[split dagger]

Yea

Next thing I wanna do is get a black plate because I don’t like the white plate

But the swap looks hard to do

[harsh dove]

Plate swapping is easy tbh

[marsh saffron]

Black plate looks so good

Also it's very easy

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/XkosHUBUrdI?si=09fCfY9oHIdlhSZj

[marsh saffron]

Just gotta take the plate off and remove the switches

[harsh dove]

Here’s some pics with Black PC Plate vs White PC Plate

@split dagger

[marsh saffron]

Black PC plate superiority

[harsh dove]

Well with my all white board, I did white

[marsh saffron]

I love the contrast it adds with the white

[marsh saffron]

Gonna pick up some pbtfans BoW to pair with this

[harsh dove]

Although idk if that’s the right pic lmao

That might still have black

[marsh saffron]

They are gonna look great with black plate

[marsh saffron]

That's beautiful

[split dagger]

It looks so much nicer idk it just looks like a lot of steps to me

I will look into it

[harsh dove]

I sent a video above on how to do it

[urban harbor]

@harsh dove youve had no issues with gmk keys on stock stabs and long pole switches?

swagkey long pole stabs seem tough to come by right now

[polar girder]

Yo what’s fair price for full stock Wooting plus white pc plate?

Used but like new condition

[harsh dove]

Yeah, zero issues with GMK keycaps, jades, and stock stabs, that’s actually what I have in my tofu rn

[polar girder]

Maybe even with tofu redux and brass weight

[harsh dove]

I’ve never used long poles with my jades with any keycaps

I own long poles but never used them

[harsh dove]

Yeah they are

[urban harbor]

rad thanks a lot

[harsh dove]

Stock wootings sell for about $200 on eBay

$170-200

I’ve seen custom wootings sell for about $300-370

On eBay

This is all within the last 2 months btw , if you look at EBay Recently Sold Listings

[pure magnet]

Are these the PlayStation gmks?

Dual shot

[harsh dove]

Yes

[pure magnet]

Uff I need them for my WoB

[harsh dove]

Yeah those are the accents I recommended you iirc

@median spade I swear I’ve gotten my Tofu x Jades to sound better than my Frog Mini x Lavenders

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-emotional-meme-whastapp-gif-20742704

[pure magnet]

Been still waiting for my WoB since Wednesday last week

One day of holiday on Thursday and it takes them a week to ship a package 50 kilometers

[little glen]

Well

Thursday holiday friday bridge day saturday sunday weekend

[median spade]

[pure magnet]

If I worked like that in my job, I'd be a vagabond right now

[median spade]

Back in my day if it took 2 weeks that was fast

[little glen]

What, not working saturday sunday or public holiday?

[harsh dove]

I think it’s just the alu plate, I’m trying to force myself to like it but I don’t think I do

[median spade]

Oh that’s why for sure

[harsh dove]

POM is the way

[median spade]

Alu plates no good with HE

I tried one with my freebird and same result

[harsh dove]

That Navi board sounded great with Alu plate and lavenders tho

But I think the case is helping a lot

[median spade]

Could be

[pure magnet]

So basically half the year is gone due to holidays? 🤔

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/glbUIxIfTK0?si=WWjprtFN9YcK164v

[little glen]

What??

[harsh dove]

Why can’t I do this in my frog lol

[median spade]

Oh yeah

[little glen]

I dont know what ur trying to say

[median spade]

That’s full isolated gasket I think

Probs why

[harsh dove]

I swear if the 461E sounds super good ima be kinda mad

lol

[pure magnet]

I'm saying there lots of in the week one day holiday, if I worked like that logic nothing would get done

[median spade]

If you like the sound of the 80he

It will sound similar