🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

I like vaporwave themes

Lol I did not notice that

[stray tiger]

I'm just waiting. I don't have a board for symbiote right now so no rush. It'll probably go on sale Thursday though 🤣

[static tendon]

Ohhh that’s what that is. Have you ever considered vinyl wrapping it? It should achieve a similar affect while protecting the desk

[fluid ravine]

That'd be nice, i will talk to my dad about it

[harsh dove]

Yeah I feel that, I'm gonna try it on this silver frog and see how it is, but bro watch it is gonna go on sale

[fluid ravine]

But I honestly dont know how to take out the current wrap

[static tendon]

I love blues, purples and pinks so this will fit in perfectly

[fluid ravine]

cus he used heat to attempt to take out the bubbles

but i feel like its stuck on the table..

[stray tiger]

I got it off mech market for a screaming good deal. Got the base kit, novelties, spacebars and rama for $140 (so just the price of the base kit)

[harsh dove]

Is that why the white part is kinda shiny too?

[static tendon]

Oh man I love projects like that, but yeah it might take some time to see what’s best. But hey if you’re satisfied with it, no point of changing anything

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-smile-ooooo-yeah-gif-14408539

Very nice

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[fluid ravine]

mhm

its the second time i changed the wrap

after like 4-5 years

But yet again, during cam's stream, i regret not taking my dad's offer on buying a new table

I cant do much with this table :c
like setting up a monitor arm, barely have options for my boom arm either

kinda need more space from my table, table a bit low for my liking (legs pressed up against the table while mainting height for my arms to rest)

[cedar gate]

Any highlights you want like hiragana?

Pbtfans wob or bow sound good for you rn or maybe BOG if you want some gray in there

Crosshair can add a subtle red highlight

Other sets on pbtfans are mostly black or white with other highlights so scroll a bit

[fluid ravine]

PC:
Intel i7 12700
Nvidia 4060 ti 16 gb
1tb ssd (x2)
32 gb ddr4 ram

Peripherals:
Keeb: Custom Wooting
Mouse: HyperX Pulsefire Haste 2 Wireless
Mouse pad:Zowie GSR SE GRIS
Microphone: Fifine K688
IEMS: Truthear x Crinacle Zero: RED
Boom arm: Just some cheap boom arm my dad bought from ebay
Monitor: MSI Optix 27' 165hz
Fan: IRIS USA WOOZOO Fan
Sound bar/speaker: Some random ELEGIANT speaker my dad gave me

[fluid ravine]

oooo BOG is nice

[fluid ravine]

Shit on the right side of my desk is just random crap like remotes and subwoofer for my dad when he watches TV on the grandpa chair

[placid fern]

What do you guys recommend

I don't know anything about keycaps

[cedar gate]

Anything cherry profile with good quality pbt imo

I bought a gmk blacksnail once it went bad so fast gave it to a friend

[placid fern]

What keycaps are you using ATM just curious

[thick quail]

anyone got any place they recommend when buying keycaps for their wooting?

[median spade]

You play in the middle of the living room??

[fluid ravine]

yessir

always have been my whole ilfe

[median spade]

I couldn’t imagine haha

[stray tiger]

Wooting is a good site to buy keycaps for your Wooting. Otherwise it depends on your location and budget

[cedar gate]

I'm using pbtfans wob and waiting for crosshair to restock

[thick quail]

do you have any website in mind?

[stray tiger]

It depends on your location and budget

[thick quail]

i dont know how much these goes for as this is my first time actually looking into changing my keycaps

North America / Canada if that helps

[stray tiger]

What's your budget

[thick quail]

lets say 100

[stray tiger]

Deskhero is an awesome site for Canada

[thick quail]

are there any specific sized ones that i need to look out for?

if im planning on using it for my wooting two he?

[stray tiger]

Just make sure it's a full base kit and you should be good

[thick quail]

alright thanks!

[harsh dove]

I meant to upload the washed out variant, oop

[stray tiger]

The other frog I bought was the green since it's apparently the rarest color. Wont be here until this weekend but hoping it looks good. No idea what keycaps I'l use on it, but I feel like GMK Botanical might work well

I think its this color https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATft7c2rgEE

[harsh dove]

I haven’t looked at that color is it like dark green or -

Ooo

[stray tiger]

If its this color

[harsh dove]

It’s got some blueish in it

[fluid ravine]

oh my my

[stray tiger]

It might not look like that at all, the picture the guy sent me looked like this

Ive never seen the green version since it was such a small batch run so no clue.

Oh here we go https://youtu.be/e6uK7yYUrYc?si=MzTu9_wSYHBrvV8J&t=35

[harsh dove]

I have a feeling it’s gonna be closer to this one

[polar girder]

dang

yeah i missed out on that lol

that's awesome

when was that gb?

or i guess it wasn't really a gb but it just randomly comes back in stock? lol

seems like it would help the 60he be quieter

[stray tiger]

Its been unavailable for a while. I think used is the only option.

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[spiral anvil]

Oh shit you got the same fan as me

[fluid ravine]

Hehe

[spiral anvil]

Fan goes on the left

Just got it for the summer

[fluid ravine]

[marsh saffron]

Is that a beastx mini in lilac?

[spiral anvil]

The wrist rest does not match the rest of the setup though

[spiral anvil]

Yep

[fluid ravine]

Love that color

[marsh saffron]

Thank God it comes with white grips I can't wait for mine to come in

[spiral anvil]

[marsh saffron]

Got the same color it looks great

[fluid ravine]

[spiral anvil]

I took them off, got stained in a week somehow

I'm just running gripless now

[marsh saffron]

I'll probably end up putting them on the sides

I'll see if I'm fine with the holes or not first

[pale cloud]

Anyone filmed ur jades? What films yall reccomend?

[marsh saffron]

Idk when mine arrives because I got a shitty courier but hopefully it's soon

[fluid ravine]

We don't recommend any films for HE switches

[spiral anvil]

Haven't filmed, tight as is

[spiral anvil]

Holes weren't bad for me and I'm coming from holeless

[fluid ravine]

Films tend to warp when being installed so they're pretty fiddley to apply

[marsh saffron]

What grip do you use

[fluid ravine]

Like Tsu said, Jades are in fact as tight as is

[pale cloud]

Ah ok

[marsh saffron]

And what size are your hands if you happen to know pls

[fluid ravine]

Fyi, films help tighten the housing to housing fit, not tightening stem wobble @pale cloud

[spiral anvil]

Was using stock but I took them due to sweat absorbing into them, just running gripless now

[fluid ravine]

So yeah just know, it's a waste of time, effort, and money to do this with HE switches.

[pale cloud]

Fair

[spiral anvil]

4 by 7 in iirc

[marsh saffron]

Not grip tape I meant like claw/ftip should've clarified

[spiral anvil]

Ftip

[pale cloud]

Should I lube the jades? Because stocks are pre lubed

[fluid ravine]

But if you were to do it, the only films we recommend are 3d printed ones that has specific dimensions for these HE switches

[spiral anvil]

I recommend if you have the time and effort

[marsh saffron]

Wondering if I can't get away with claw, my hands are 20x10cm

I can ftip fine but prefer claw

[fluid ravine]

This is your choice, if you have time and would like to do it go ahead. Although alot says that the factory lube job is pretty good by default

[spiral anvil]

Personally I'd still not to with jades

Its tight as is

[fluid ravine]

nah absolutely not

[spiral anvil]

Had some not close back all the way due to tightness

[fluid ravine]

But always said the same thing like half a year ago for the lekkers

Since it was the only HE switch out there and some people tend to open them alot (yep im calling my self out :D)

[spiral anvil]

[pale cloud]

Okok thanks

[dreamy dirge]

does anyone know whether the wooting60HE+ switch springs are 45g or 60g by default? I see the option to buy both on the website but when I checked my order I couldn't tell which ones they are

additionally does anyone know where to get springs for the switches?

[storm axle]

has anybody tried using sideprinted keycaps with the north facing led of the wooting? Does the light still bleed through the print? (keycaps like these)

[pastel vigil]

its 60 by default

Wooting will be selling springs soon

There are some you can get on Aliexpress but they are longer springs compared to stock springs which does affect how they feel

[stiff plume]

Sorry, if I post in the wrong chat.

I’m trying to unscrew the screw, since placed it in the wrong direction. I used all three types of screwdriver it won’t unscrew.

[pastel vigil]

you need ph1

[latent grove]

GPL 205g0 lube wooting 60 he stabilizers is good?

I use this one for switch and stabilizers ,it’s good?or I have to use Molykote EM-50L for stabilizers?

[bronze grove]

205 is generally considered too runny and liquid to be used on stabiliser wires. You'll want to use something more solid like Molykote.

[latent grove]

but i cant find it on amazon

[latent grove]

[bronze grove]

We sell it. You should also be able to find it on a lot of keyboard websites.

But if you're looking for wire grease specifically, I'm sure someone in this channel can find an alternative on Amazon for you.

[latent grove]

Thank you

[latent fern]

ive used this and it worked fine for me

[pastel vigil]

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0065PEQQS?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[latent grove]

How about this one

[pastel vigil]

Get loctite instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8 As per this rec

[latent grove]

Which one better

[pastel vigil]

Get the one i linked

Works like a treat

[latent grove]

Thank you

[daring swallow]

What does tape mod do?

[sour blade]

does the salvation even make sense to have with the wooting?

flex + wooting sensitivity

[vale swan]

yes

it doesnt cause problems

i run mine in that exact same config

the pcb and switches and plates are basically glued together so you won't have issues

[sour blade]

im just under the impression its a precise tool and

the flex doesnt really make sense with it

[vale swan]

it'll be fine

[sour blade]

do you think its game changing

to have leaf spring

[vale swan]

vs tray mount yes

[sour blade]

ive done gummy o before

not that flexible but

[vale swan]

same

[sour blade]

was bit softer than tray

[vale swan]

i moved on from a gummy o ring tofu to this

but thats because i have a very specific sound im going after

the flex was just extra

[sour blade]

yeah im kinda down to try exotic mounting methods

and im never going up to 80% so ill never have the gasket wooting 80

[vale swan]

if you are willing to do custom work you can have a gasket 60he perhaps

[sour blade]

plans to buy a 2nd hand one and give my current one to my friend

[vale swan]

there is also the frog mini with the tadpole mount and there are custom plates that fit the wooting so you can put the pcb in there but thats more like top mount

[vale swan]

a 2nd hand what exactly

[sour blade]

salvation

[vale swan]

the tofu with the o ring is a deepr sound profile

the salvation is the exact opposite

just keep that in mind

[sour blade]

idk if they really match the jades

i used to have deeper sound profile when i had gummy o

[vale swan]

the jades are a high pitched switch

[sour blade]

i move to plate

no more deep

now im committing even deeper into the jade route

[vale swan]

the salvation is high pitched

so it will complement the jades

[sour blade]

yeah

[vale swan]

the salvation can't really be foamed up so that is something else you need to take into consideration

[sour blade]

i went from
ali case + gummy o + stock switch
ali case + gummy o + jades
tofu + tray + jades

but i unironically preferred the ali case deeper sound

[vale swan]

the salvation will not get you that

[sour blade]

im just driving myself deeper and deeper into spending more money but i dont actually like the sound of the tofu rn

[vale swan]

the jades are also not deep/low pitched switches

try polyfill and tape mod in the tofu if you want it deeper

[sour blade]

but maybe if i commit harder into higher pitch it might become okay again

[vale swan]

?

i think you mean getting used to it

[sour blade]

well im kinda in between

[vale swan]

if you don't mind the switch not having a bottom out, try the KS20U Dual Rails

[sour blade]

with the jades in the tofu

[vale swan]

those will be much deepr than the Jades

dont get me wrong, the salvation is good but its really expensive and is very specific

[sour blade]

oh i just realized

im also going to have ks20s

after i buy the salvation 2nd hand

[vale swan]

make sure its the dual rails KS20U

[sour blade]

so ill get to eperiment

[vale swan]

specifically

not the KS20 normal ones

[sour blade]

oh

[vale swan]

these improved tolerances

and stem wobble

significantly

[sour blade]

so orange and not white

[vale swan]

over the lekkers and KS20s

there are white KS20U's too on aliexpress

this is the old KS20

this is the KS20U dual rail

[sour blade]

ah i see they re different

ok

[drifting bronze]

Hello there I bought white masking tape is that the good one so I don't damage my pcb

[vale swan]

yes very different

[sour blade]

im pretty happy with the jade wobble

doesnt bother me

[vale swan]

the jades are good for wobble

[sour blade]

so dual rails is even better?

[vale swan]

im talking over the lekkers

and the old ks20

[sour blade]

yeah huge jump

[vale swan]

not by a lot vs the jades

[sour blade]

i see

[vale swan]

if you want the salvation go for it, but i'd think carefully about what you want

if you want your tofu to be deeper, put polyfill tape mod the pcb and do gummy o ring

[sour blade]

ill probably only know what i want untill i try it

cause im stuck in the middle of both sound profiles right now

[vale swan]

the keycaps also affect this a lot

GMK abs is the highest pitch, pbtfans abs is lower pitch but still pretty high up there and pbtfans pbt is lower pitch than both of them and Drop DCX abs

[sour blade]

:3 i have gmk

yeah actually now that you mention it
the pitched raised after i swapped to gmk

i switched from alu plate
to pc plate

and switched from foam
to silicon

and pbt
to gmk abs

[vale swan]

gmk abs is not the right pair for a deep sound

[sour blade]

i cant, not run the gmks

[vale swan]

i have mine in a salvation with FR4 jades and GMK and its very high pitched

[vale swan]

try this too

[sour blade]

ok ill try right now

[vale swan]

that i understand, pbt spacebars are absolute garbage for me

[sour blade]

foam or silicon with that setup

foam?

going for lower

[vale swan]

silicone is for higher pitch

you could also go nothing

i dont like plate foam at all with the wooting

[flat light]

gonna frankenswitch with geon raptors without a switch opener

sounds like its gonna take awhile

[vale swan]

buy a switch opener

[royal night]

Is it okay to remove the switch with a switch remover without disassembling the wooting keyboard?

[vale swan]

yes

[royal night]

Is it okay to do this?

[vale swan]

yes that

[royal night]

Thank you.!!!

[vale swan]

thats how i took out my switches when i was too lazy to take out the pcb

but it will require a lot more force

especially on a steel or alu or carbon fiber plate

[royal night]

The delivery arrived today, but the switch was broken

[stark osprey]

Anyone have info on the Lekker v2s yet? How they sound/feel ?

Also curious if anyone's heard how the new Zinc alloy case on the 80he sounds .

[sour blade]

thx for the help
building that test rn

[wind karma]

anyone using moleskin for the tape mod?

[vale swan]

yes

CAM is using it

it sounds deeper than what is normally used for tape mod or so he said

[wind karma]

yeah but i don't think he's online

so im just asking anyone

[wind karma]

yeah. my main concern is the residue

[drifting bronze]

Can the withe masking tape be used for the tape mod on the pcb

[vale swan]

that idk as i dont use moleskin

[wind karma]

i don't want adhesive on the back of my pcb..

[wind karma]

alr ill ask cam when he gets on

if it is strong ill just use one layer of painters tape and a layer of moleskin below that maybe

[vale swan]

hmm

@stray tiger @harsh dove https://keebmat.com/products/thockfilm did you see this?

[velvet egret]

The only thing we got is a sound test of the 80He using v2s
https://wooting.io/wooting-80he/wooting-80he. Don't believe there is more but could be wrong.

[flat light]

what are theese for?

[cedar gate]

Imo it still sounds kinda magnety and inferior to jades or ks-20 dual rail

[drifting bronze]

Can I use this tape safe for tape mod?

[elfin garnet]

Yes you can

[drifting bronze]

Bc it sticks pretty hard

[sour blade]

couldnt test nothing because tofu has really large gaps
but im back on gummy and it sounds pleasant

thanks for the advice

[elfin garnet]

Yeah new tape tends to do that

[drifting bronze]

So I can't f up the pcb with that

[vale swan]

thats exactly what i used

[drifting bronze]

Oh same brand and shit?

[elfin garnet]

I can with 100% certainty tell you that there is no issues by using the tape in the picture

[vale swan]

same shit

from the looks of it

brand idk

[drifting bronze]

Oh bc you have these as well

[vale swan]

tho its funny when you explain to people why you need tape

or polyfill

most people wouldn't think that you'd put that in a keyboard

[drifting bronze]

Yup a ain't in the group of most people 😂

[vale swan]

ye most people dont spend over 700 euros on a gaming keyboard

then still complain about how it sounds

[drifting bronze]

Yup

Ey bro where u from

[vale swan]

i surely would know that feel

i am def not doing exactly that rn

[elfin garnet]

I've probably bought this exact tape 20 times this last year because I was renovating my apartment

I've used it in my keyboard several times

[drifting bronze]

Wait also from first class

[elfin garnet]

I'm in EU as you are and this brand of tape sells everywhere

[drifting bronze]

Yup

Ey where u from then

@elfin garnet so u're saying the tape is fine to use in keyboards

[elfin garnet]

Norway

Yes, that's what I'm saying

[drifting bronze]

Okay thx man ey have a nice day bro I think I'm going to use the stock case but get a PC plate and lube the lekkers

[elfin garnet]

No worries. Sounds like a good plan.

[drifting bronze]

Will it sound good tho u think hahaha

[vale swan]

i wouldn't do that

[drifting bronze]

Why?

[vale swan]

just keep the stock plate as its fine and better than PC imo for the stock case and get switches

its a waste of time and money

[drifting bronze]

Bro what switched?

[vale swan]

what switched what?

wdym

[vale swan]

i have been saying this for a long time

[drifting bronze]

Switches sorry

[vale swan]

oh

[drifting bronze]

I'm from eu u know

[vale swan]

KS20U, Jades or KS20U whites(if you want cheaper)

theats why i told you last time to try aliexpress

as you dont pay any fees and you dont get scammed

[drifting bronze]

And what switched would I recommend bc I don't really mind the wobble

[vale swan]

its not just the wobble

its the whole thing thats bad

lekkers rattle like crazy

[elfin garnet]

Yes, but he had to make a choice between getting a 3080 from his dad or buying several mods/upgrades for his 60HE and he has mentioned he doesn't like the sound of jades

[vale swan]

the KS20U and Jades do not have that problem

they are not perfect but they dont rattle like the lekkers do

all the plate will do is make it quieter and reveal even more of the lekker rattle(atleast in my experience and opinion)

[vale swan]

im not forcing the jades down his throat

The KS20U's exist

they are lekkers but without the rattle

[vale swan]

i also said this

[vale swan]

i would 100% buy the 3080 over this shit unless you own a 2080ti or 3070

[elfin garnet]

Not saying that. Just explaining why I thought his plan was a good idea for now

[vale swan]

well it depends on what he wants too

i would 100% take the White KS20U's on aliexpress for like 42 euros than buy lube and a plate

[elfin garnet]

Well yeh my explanation is based on what he himself has mentioned here

[drifting bronze]

Yeah but the thing is I want a deeper sound u know and the jades are okay but the thing is there hard af to get

[vale swan]

brother

i mentioned the KS20U

too

they are basically what you want

they are a deeper switch

they are the deepest switch in stock form out of all the HE stuff

[elfin garnet]

^

[elfin garnet]

me2

[drifting bronze]

Okay but I can only buy upgrades for like 60 euro and that includes lube and tools so

[vale swan]

stock KS20Us on the steel plate will sound way better than lekkers on the pc plate

[drifting bronze]

Okay and the waiting time on AliExpress

[vale swan]

when i order it takes 2 weeks to ship

no import fees

none of that

sometimes you dont even pay shipping

[drifting bronze]

Look one of the other things is I'm 15 okay and I need.to.ask promision to my parents okay and the thing is my parents don't trust AliExpress

[vale swan]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EjzW5gl here is the link

well you wont get scammed as they have buyers protection

these days it is almost impossible to get scammed on ali

i ordered from them twice once not even shipping costs and they both arrived in 2 weeks

no bullshit nothing

make sure to add 7 not 70 or 1

as they come in packs of 10

and yes these are the dual rails, just different stem color and harvested from a prebuilt

[elfin garnet]

doc u are going down the rabbit hole with this 😅

[vale swan]

i already spent over 1.3k

on my wootings

im far too gone

hopefully this helps you @drifting bronze

[elfin garnet]

🤞🏽

[vale swan]

if you still want to go the lekker route i would not buy the pc plate, first lube the lekkers then see how you feel about it

[drifting bronze]

Okay and then u should get lube to or what would u do

[vale swan]

these should be fine

stock

[drifting bronze]

Would u lube them then or would u only get a PC olate

[vale swan]

my stock jades were better than my lubed lekkers

in every way

these have the same lubing method

by the factory

[vale swan]

probably just lube them first

if you're going the lekker way

[drifting bronze]

No I'm going the ks20u way

[vale swan]

they will sound like shit anyways(the lekkers) so if you will go that way, only lube the stem and the bottom of the spring

[vale swan]

check the link above

and read what i said

[drifting bronze]

I did Im going to buy them so u think u should go with ks20u and PC plate

[vale swan]

probably just KS20u's for now

buy pc plate later

i prefer steel in the plastic case

as its already foamed up

the PC plate will give you a slightly softer buttom out and you will get a quieter keyboard and a much lighter one in the plastic case

[drifting bronze]

Huh what do u mean does the PC plate just silence the sound

[vale swan]

PC is polycarbonate

[drifting bronze]

Oh ok

[vale swan]

its plastic

pretty much

[drifting bronze]

Yeah

So just stick with metal

[vale swan]

imo yes

[drifting bronze]

Good to know

[vale swan]

try it and see how it is

[drifting bronze]

Ok

[vale swan]

Steel plate + KS20U >>>>>> PC plate +Lekkers

easily

i think most people here would agree

i should check these out myself

[river shore]

has anybody tried spring swapping the lekkers?

[lavish nimbus]

Why would you do that?

[robust fiber]

maybe for lighter switches

I got the L45

They sound better than L60

That’s why I went with the module

[lavish nimbus]

I just got mine it's amazing

I think it sounds good too

[robust fiber]

mine is coming mid may

[lavish nimbus]

Mine said that at first too but it came in today

[robust fiber]

When did u order

[lavish nimbus]

like 10 days ago

[robust fiber]

I ordered 11th April

Eu or na

[lavish nimbus]

Eu

[robust fiber]

same

My batch is different to urs

Eu vliegtuig

Originally I ordered the pre built then cancelled to get the module

even if the keyboard comes I won’t be able to build it without the case

[lavish nimbus]

I don't know much about keyboards so I wouldn't dare to build it myself😅

I kinda wanna get a coiled cable from wooting too

[stray tiger]

You should get exactly what doc says to get. That way if you don't like it, you can blame him.

[drifting bronze]

Hahaha

Nah I like a the case but like the switches are good a friend of mine has them and I tested it but if I don't like the metal plate it's what 20 euro to buy a PC plate so

[polar girder]

EGG OP1 8k ordered

It’s back in stock, if you care

[stray tiger]

You don't like the metal plate? But doc says it's better. Which one of you is wrong?

[drifting bronze]

i dont know alot of keyboard but i think it makes sense plastic on plastic is not that good i think

so i think i'm going to get the switches and the tool set from wooting so i can install the switches in the keyboard i have now its only the sound that madders to me the most but is it the stabelizers that rattle or are it the switches

other way i always wanted other switches just didn't know wich and where so

[wind karma]

also my batch

says the estimated delivery is 06-17 may estimated

and i ordered on 2nd april.

[stray tiger]

Yeah sounds like a good idea to make the board sound about the same as it does now.

[drifting bronze]

what do u mean?

do the ks20us sound the same as the lekkers

[stray tiger]

Yep, same exact switch, same materials, just a little tighter tolerances due to the dual rail stem.

[drifting bronze]

so not worht it?

in ur opinion

what did the pc plate do in ur case with the normal case

[stray tiger]

I didn't say it wasn't worth it. If you're unhappy with your switch tolerance, it's a good upgrade.

[drifting bronze]

i dont even know what tolerances do 😂

[stray tiger]

Tighter stem tolerance means less chance of the stem to wobble. But too tight means it might not move smoothly.

[robust fiber]

mine says 6-16th may ordered 11th april

[stray tiger]

3 weeks to go, almost there!

[drifting bronze]

but like i dont care about wobble

only sound

and feel

but im used to wobely switches hahaha

[stray tiger]

Then why are you wanting KS-20U?

[drifting bronze]

becouse doc said they where deeper

[stray tiger]

So you are going by some guy in chat to tell you the best thing to choose for you? The KS-20U's are identical in material, same top housing, same bottom housing, same stem. It's a more stable version of the Lekker. That's it.

[cedar gate]

Dude you are also some guy in chat

[stray tiger]

If you really want to change the way your switches sound, try the switch tape mod. It's $5 and will make a tremendous difference.

[stray tiger]

Correct, but I'm not telling him opinions. I'm giving him facts.

[cedar gate]

Also ks20u pre lube is much better than lekker btw

So if you want to save an afternoon of your life and get less stem wobble then ks20u is good

[stray tiger]

Agree. That's true. But he doesn't care about stem wobble he said.

Also he said he is 15 so he may have more time than money and there is a lot you can do with time.

[cedar gate]

Ks20u raptor he and jades are your 3 main options so consider them all

[cedar gate]

If you think about it wooting lube and tools are like 50$ with additional expenses and switches are around the same so may as well buy right

You can get cheaper tools and lube ofc tho

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-horse-spank-exhausted-wake-up-gif-17245109

[stray tiger]

I mean if you just want to end up with something that sounds roughly the same for a bit more money, then sure. Personal preference of course but I think learning to lube and tune your own keyboard it's worth the time.

[cedar gate]

Also from my experience they sound a touch thockier

Maybe it's just placebo but it does sound a bit thockier to me

[stray tiger]

Why do you think that is?

Better factory lubing maybe?

[cedar gate]

Maybe?

Factory lubing has gotten a lot better

[median spade]

Some people don't think it be like it is, but it do

[stray tiger]

So if he was to hand lube his lekkers he would not only spend less money and learn something, he would also end up sounding almost the same as the KS-20U's?

[median spade]

Yeah but then how is he supposed to consume waste his money?

[stray tiger]

Good question

[flat light]

this was annoying without switch opener

[stray tiger]

You are a monster

[median spade]

I'll never forget my first time lubing gateron yellows back in 2019 for this same reason

I didn't want to spend $10 on a switch opener at the time so took 10 hours with a screwdriver

[flat light]

[harsh dove]

Demons

[stray tiger]

I'm not saying we all haven't done things we aren't proud of...

[wind karma]

did you scratch your switches???

[median spade]

To be fair the only place to get a switch opener at the time was KBDfans or the guy in washington who I ended up getting it from

[austere creek]

wait they open up?

i just jammed my brush in the gap when the stem is pushed in

/s

[median spade]

nah it does the same thing as a switch opener on the sides

[stray tiger]

That's worse than a monster.

[wind karma]

oh

[wind karma]

doesn't the ks-20U still sound better

[cedar gate]

Yeah you fr sure want an opener and a puller so much faster and u don't screw up your switches

[wind karma]

i'd say it sounds a lot better, but i've only heard both in sound tests so idk what its like in real life lol.

[cedar gate]

To me yeah its a bit better

[stray tiger]

Dan says it sounds better because of the lube. Maybe it does.

[harsh dove]

It sounds better if you want it too

[wind karma]

maybe.. surely it won't have that rattly noise the lekker has though

[median spade]

Damn I don't think the OG guy to make aluminum switch openers still does it

[stray tiger]

What I know for sure is that there is less stem movement due to the 2 rails. That's the only difference.

[wind karma]

cause less wobble

[wind karma]

yup

[wind karma]

cam

[stray tiger]

However the guy said he doesn't care about stem movement, he just wants a deeper sounding switch.

[elfin garnet]

no case needed. Use the board straight on the desk

[wind karma]

you use moleskin correct?

[harsh dove]

Yeah but don’t copy me I don’t know anything

[wind karma]

don't worry about it lol

does moleskin leave residue on the pcb

[harsh dove]

Nah

[wind karma]

the adhesive is as weak as painter's tape?

[harsh dove]

No

Definitely stronger

[stray tiger]

Cam also used aluminum flashing tape so don't listen to him.

[harsh dove]

[wind karma]

i'll use asbestos tape

[harsh dove]

Oh

[median spade]

aluminum tape

[stray tiger]

You must live in Europe

[median spade]

or just northeast us

[wind karma]

who?

[stray tiger]

My fav stuff

[harsh dove]

Best

[median spade]

I actually have some, but I don't remember why I bought it or for what project

[elfin garnet]

I just drop foam, screws, tape and o ring alltogether and just glue my pcb tot the case with this

[austere creek]

is that... magnetically levitated aluminum toilet paper?

[stray tiger]

I have some but it was used for pyrotechnics stuff

[harsh dove]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t

[median spade]

I can blame 90% of the stuff in my work drawers to keyboards

[cedar gate]

But uncomfortable asf

[lavish nimbus]

Wooting should make a mouse too

[latent quail]

Wooting should make a time machine too

Wooting also should make a auto clothes iron

[polar girder]

Bruh

[wind karma]

why does the lekker switch have a click lifespan...

[median spade]

because, just like with life, all things die at some point

[wind karma]

but... it's just a magnet

[polar girder]

It’s not infinite

No it’s not

It’s plastic and spring also

[wind karma]

ig the plastic could wear out over use

do springs change through out time too?

[polar girder]

Idk dude

What’s wrong with having a 100m click lifetime? Lol

[wind karma]

nothing haha

[polar girder]

You’re saying it’s invincible?

[wind karma]

no problem with it

[polar girder]

Lolol ok right on

[median spade]

you shall die before ever seeing that lifetime clicks

[polar girder]

Yeah it probably dies at some point. Not in my lifetime tho

[wind karma]

nah. just wondering what would wear out if that makes sense cause there's no metal contact leaf or wtv its called

[wispy scroll]

This can get fixed by changing the switches right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah but I doubt any of us will run into that issue in a very long time

[tidal rampart]

Hi excuse me I have a question. Can I put keycaps with cherry profil on Lekker switches ? (Without interference)

[harsh dove]

Yes

[drifting bronze]

@stray tiger do u think it's a good idea to lube the lekkers and just buy a PC plate for the stock plastic wooting case?

[stray tiger]

I always think lubing and tuning your switches and stabilizers is a good idea. I believe its the single most important thing you can do if you plan to get into keyboard modding. As for the PC plate, its a personal preference. I do prefer it with the Lekker switches, but thats my personal opinion.

[drifting bronze]

Okay thanks for the help for the past weeks I really appreciate it I am going to buy the PC plate took kit and lube kit now and a really appreciate that u are taking time out of ur day for helping me can I private dm u when I get the parts and when I have questions?

[stray tiger]

My DM's are always open, just be sure to ping me here to lmk if you DM me so that I can go look for it.

[drifting bronze]

What lmk?

Oh let me know

So I need to let u know when I private dm u?

[paper bloom]

Ping him here and dm him

So he can reference so atleast its easier for him to track

Here and dms and ppl talk a lot here thats why @drifting bronze

[drifting bronze]

Oh ok

[untold wigeon]

question, should u use the lubricants prior to using it? or are they lubricated prior to receiving?

[stray tiger]

Well I get a TON of dm's each day which I usually ignore because people tend to DM here asking for order support instead of opening a ticket in the hub

[paper bloom]

Its pre lubed,

[drifting bronze]

Oh okay I see

[paper bloom]

U can redo the lube urself

If u wish

[paper bloom]

I mean imagine if u got dm'd curse mods 😂

Or the most ghetto keyboard mod and add it to #🪛│modding_faq

LOOL

[stray tiger]

People are usually really nice for the most part and I spend more time in DM's than chat some days but with 25k 80HE orders l, the support queue is backed up and people get impatient or irritated and bring it to discord sometimes.

[paper bloom]

It happens ig

Cant say i blame them

[stray tiger]

Yeah it's never personal. They are just understandably frustrated

[paper bloom]

Yea

[paper bloom]

Still tho shipping logistics do be a bitch

Sometimes and shit can get out of hand p fast

But hey take a chill whenever u need man, dont gotta push urself too hard

[ionic chasm]

Hey, I recently got a wooting module and I need some advice. I have a Todu60 redux case with pre lubed gateron magnetic jades. I tried the wooting case foam with plate foam but it was too dampened for my taste. So I switched it to tofu case foam with the silicon plate foam which sounds better. However I see a lot of you enjoy no case foam in the keyboard? What can I do to make my keyboard louder? The space bar currently drowns out the keys

[median spade]

Can you look at my order no response in 5 mins? WOOTINGUS137IDIDNTBUY80he

[cedar gate]

You could remove all foam or use louder switches but remember there is nothing more annoying than hearing your kb through your headphones in game

[elfin garnet]

https://x.com/ry_hoyt/status/1780387745979879760?s=46&t=XAv16iTrzXxSOp1Je5IJZQ

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I did it, I built my endgame board. Tofu Holy60 from @KBDfans, 60HE+ PCB from @WootingKB, Jade HE switches from @GATERONOfficial. This thing looks good, sounds pretty good factory lubed, and other than 90% of the other HE boards around, has insane latency performance. I'd be…

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What do you guys think about this? The spacebar is itching me the wrong way

[harsh dove]

Take out all the sound dampening mods

[harsh dove]

That’s because they have it reversed

Only people with soft hands do that

[ionic chasm]

would that lead to pinging

[median spade]

potentially

depends on the plate really

[median spade]

it's got the awful clone font

ugly legends

I kind of wnat to try a holy60 but $120 for it

mehhh

i know it's a lot of machining and that's a good deal still

[polar girder]

I mean it’s not going to create any sounds. It just won’t make any existing sounds quieter.

[harsh dove]

It’s possible

Depends on plate and mounting style

And tape mod can help if so

[ionic chasm]

gotcha, thanks guys

[velvet egret]

@harsh dove How did you like the Frog Mini Case?

[harsh dove]

Terrible

Need to make a sound test for it

It’s pretty nice tho

[velvet egret]

bhaha dayum one word terrible xD

the sound was terrible i assume?

[stray tiger]

Was it the case or the plate?

[harsh dove]

Nah I’m jokin

I think it’s nice with Alu plate and Jades

Spacebar was iffy at first but I fixed it

Need to try Pom plate and KS20u

And mix n match

[velvet egret]

When will you try that combo out?

[harsh dove]

Maybe this weekend

[stray tiger]

I tried with aluminum plate and L60's over a year ago and wasnt happy with it at all, so will be interesting to see how it goes this time with a different plate and switches

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s exactly what Tenturo tried, Tirade

He hated it lol

Then he never tried alu again after that

[velvet egret]

Yeah im curious too.. ill be keeping my eye on the chat to see if i see u type about it

[harsh dove]

And I told him that was his mistake lol

[stray tiger]

Might have been mine too. Skill issue

[harsh dove]

Yep

Well mainly because he based the alu off that one experience and didn’t try it with different switches

[elfin garnet]

😂

[drifting bronze]

Can someone tell me what the silicone and the foam do between the plate and what the general differences are

[stray tiger]

Silicone is stiffer and produces a slightly higher pitched sound. Foam is softer and produces a slightly more muted sound.

[drifting bronze]

Of so in theory the foam makes a deeper sound

[cedar gate]

For any hall effect switch I would do foam not silicone

[drifting bronze]

Ok good to know thanks

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/_N8k0u75eLQ?si=1GAWrq-I1_TE9qcb&t=347

[drifting bronze]

Does the silicone just mute te sound

[median spade]

what was causing the issue

[harsh dove]

Skill issue

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

Nah, one of the stabs came up and had to push it back down

Clip in problems

[median spade]

ahh that makes sense

[harsh dove]

Yanno

Yeah

[median spade]

stil best spacebar for 60he of all stuff i used

on pom at least

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think it’s actually nice on the alu, maybe a little loud so might put some putty in it but otherwise sounds good

Plus I hit my spacebar pretty hard so

[median spade]

I'm right there with you

on mx side i usually put like a 75g+ spring in my spacebar

[harsh dove]

I might actually do something like that

[drifting bronze]

Do u guys recommend removing the switches with the plate and pcb still in place or should I take the plate of and just do it that way

And how is the switch puller from wooting

[stray tiger]

I prefer silicone is some cases. There is no best, only preference.

[stray tiger]

Easier to remove the PCB first. The switches can be tight

[drifting bronze]

Oh ok thank u

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

this was almost eveyr swtich with pom when i had it btw

[velvet egret]

oh nice thanks. Have you also tried other 60% cases? Alumaze/Redux/salvation etc?

[median spade]

Pretty much all of them

Fjell, Salvation, Tofu, Freebird, etc

[velvet egret]

@median spade out of all the cases which one did you prefer and why? Just curious.

Before i bought my redux, i was looking at possibly getting a frog mini but read the sound they produce wasnt the best compared to other cases and that you also needed a custom piece to make a wooting work with it.

[harsh dove]

You do need a custom plate and it doesn’t sound good with Lekkers which is what I assume most have tested it with since at the time there weren’t other switches out to test with

[velvet egret]

ah i see. Will they ever remake the frog mini cuz i see now they are oos. Is it easy to get your hands on a custom plate?

Bruh my Gummy O-Rings been in customs for 6 freakin DAYS --_-- already...

[harsh dove]

I doubt it, been oos for awhile now

And yeah you can get you hands on a custom plate fairly easily

[velvet egret]

Yeah last time i looked was a couple of months ago. Since you had tested one recently i got curious again :p Thanks

@harsh dove btw my custom cable is otw 😄

[harsh dove]

No problem lol and oooo nice, what’d you get?

[velvet egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208293980211650612/1229649203802931280/IMG_2223.jpg?ex=6630730f&is=661dfe0f&hm=96526c3e0a7875173e63fa6e373cd05a90139ce86ad210610b9b8d2c2f292d00&

@harsh dove 😄

[harsh dove]

Is this your exact one?

[velvet egret]

yessirrrr

[harsh dove]

Ah very nice I saw him post this the other day

[velvet egret]

yeah he posted it yesterday 😄 im super stoked. It's even better than i imagined

[harsh dove]

That’s the new sleeving he’s using

Apparently pretty nice, makes the cable look fuller

[velvet egret]

yeah looks super dope!

Yeah that's what he said, can't wait to have it in hand.

Hopefully itl clear cutoms quicker than 2 rubber O-rings xD

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah

[next trout]

does anyone know which switches fit in the 60he+?

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[next trout]

i'm guessing l45 and 45v2 are basically the same?

[stray tiger]

Better tolerances on the L45 v2 is all we know at this point

[next trout]

oh okay. so it's fair to assume the v2 will be better

[stray tiger]

Yes thats fair to assume

[next trout]

has anyone got any good recommendations for keycaps?

[pastel vigil]

GMK

[stray tiger]

Keycaps are a personal choice but if you tell us your budget and location we can suggest some vendors

[indigo ibex]

Has anyone tried doing gummy o ring mount in the Holy60?

[stray tiger]

I dont think so. Let us know how it goes

[young lantern]

got my board all built but just curious whats the sound difference between friction o ring mount and burger mount? tofu redux and module w pc plate and jades

currently using burger

[wind karma]

i see. Thanks.

[stray tiger]

Potentially less resonance as the PCB isnt screwed down to the case but how much difference you'll notice is subjective

[indigo ibex]

Ah ok. I ordered a gummy oring to try it out on my current Blade60 set up, but my holy60 is supposedly shipping soon so I guess we will see lol.

Also, do you typically remove standoffs for gummy o ring mount or no?

[stray tiger]

You typicaly cant remove all the stand-offs. Not sure if thats true with the Holy60

[polar girder]

Yeah standoffs didn’t obstruct my redux friction mount FWIW

I didn’t add the brass standoffs but the stock ones didn’t get in the way

[young lantern]

think its worth switching? im just happy i had it done tbh

[polar girder]

Well it would require buying the o-ring, unscrewing the PCB from the case, putting o-ring on PCB, then carefully placing the PCB in the case.

If you think that’s worth the experiment, I would say give it a shot.

But if you’re happy, maybe it’s not worth it.

[wispy scroll]

Would guys do a tape mod? Is it a decent difference?

[willow bronze]

Tape mod makes everything sound the same. If u like that sound, go for it

Nothing wrong with tape mod. U prob gonna have headphones on anyway

[stray tiger]

Tape mod typically adds a bit of pop/poppiness

[wispy scroll]

Oh gotcha, yah I like a bit more faint, thank you!

[indigo ibex]

Anyone happen to know when the Blade 60 is supposed to done shipping?

[young lantern]

oh yup no i definitely have the parts i still have my tx ap stabs and the o ring i just have two wootings and im wondering if the difference is noticeable lol

just trying to “endgame” first my pc then keyboards lmao

[spiral anvil]

Oh that reminds me I should get a matching cable for my setup

[quasi topaz]

can you get one for me too pls

[stray tiger]

There is no endgame keyboard. Its a myth, A fugazi

https://tenor.com/view/thewolfofwallstreet-fairydust-fugazi-matthewmcconaughey-audio-gif-3525970

[spiral anvil]

Oh my Anker cable matches

Well that saves me time

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-matthew-gif-25773739

Keyboards are like revolving doors

[flat light]

soon done frankenswitching without any switch opener

[wind karma]

random question but

is it possible to pull switches WITHOUT a switch puller

(i do not have one)

[flat light]

hmm maybe with tweezers or something but might damage the plate

[harsh dove]

If you’re a masochist then sure

[flat light]

this is my first custom keyboard

[wind karma]

alright

i guess i'll only put the switches in once i make sure i don't have to take them out again

anyttime soon

[harsh dove]

I’ve pulled switches out with a metal bit and nail clippers

But I don’t recommend

[wind karma]

yeah i don't want to risk damaging the switch

[stray tiger]

get a switch puller

[wind karma]

yeah i will

[flat light]

get a switch opener too if u gonna open them

[harsh dove]

MELETRIX Wuque Titanium Switch Puller for Mechanical Keyboard Switches Black https://a.co/d/6yb8bme

[flat light]

im not enjoying myself rn

[harsh dove]

$17

[flat light]

10h

[harsh dove]

OR

get the kit off Wooting site

Comes with all the tools you need and lube

[polar girder]

That’s what I did

[polar girder]

That’s sick tho lol

I’ve never seen it in black

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s the one I have

[spiral anvil]

Where do y'all get your cables

[cedar gate]

Ks20u doesn't need switch film right?

[spiral anvil]

Proably not

[idle pier]

so actual question, i'm pretty much done with modding my wooting and I like the way it sounds but I still think it feels stiff af, I tried the friction mount in my alumaze but it doesn't really solve the issue in my opinion. would the salvation be a worthy upgrade?

[harsh dove]

Wooting or WiredIn

[harsh dove]

None of the HE switches do imo

[spiral anvil]

Honestly nah fuck it I'll ball with the default wooting cable

[harsh dove]

When you did the friction mount you didn’t use any screws right? did you use any plate foam? And /or did you use any case foam or polyfill?

[median spade]

Frog Mini was the best by far but HE just doesn’t sound that good rn so I gave up and now am using friction mount on a Freebird60 lol

Wish I hadn’t started modding my 60he as I used it stock for a year no problem outside GMK keycaps, and then just decided to mod it because

And here we are

[median spade]

Endgame is Unikorn tbh for me. I used mine for 6 months straight never wanting to use a another board and then dummy traded it for another color I hated after a week, sold it, and forever regret it

I just refuse to pay $1100 for one

[harsh dove]

Yeah I don’t even mod anymore

I just case swap and keycap swap lol

I’ve done all the mods I wanna do

[median spade]

Well you’ve done it all for the moment lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[median spade]

And found what you like

[harsh dove]

Nothing left to do

[median spade]

So now we wait for switches and such

[harsh dove]

Yep

[old swallow]

this is pretty much all the "modding" i do lol

[harsh dove]

lol I did like every mod, hate all of them and now I just have 1 layer moleskin tape and that’s it basically

[wind karma]

i’ll take this as ‘moleskin good’

😈

[harsh dove]

lol I shouldn’t say hate, but I just don’t prefer most of the mods

[wind karma]

understandable

does two layers of moleskin sound deeper

[harsh dove]

Honestly never tried it as 1 layer is pretty thick

[wind karma]

ah okay

[harsh dove]

Also have to keep screw length in mind

[wind karma]

true

do you use casr foam

[harsh dove]

Nah I’m an anti-foam enthusiast

[wind karma]

ah cool

[harsh dove]

My moleskin tape is the extent of my foam lol

[wind karma]

lol

ill use moleskin too i like its sound

[idle pier]

Foam at the bottom and between pcb /plate

I assume i have to remove foam at the bottom? What about plate foam?

[harsh dove]

Have you tried friction mount without?

Try removing both and lmk what you think

[idle pier]

Nope, but i deffo will. Thanks for the unput

[harsh dove]

Or one at a time

Yeah definitely

Just experiment a bit before buying a $300 case lol

[median spade]

If you’re looking for super bright and ear piercing clack

It doesn’t exist for HE rn

[idle pier]

Yeah i wasnt gonna buy it straight away anyways but the friction mount is kinda ass imo

I struggled hard to put it in last time, and even worse to remove it

I love the way my alumaze looks

[harsh dove]

Yeah, so without the plate foam, it’ll be easier to put in and pull out

But it’ll change the sound as well without the foam

[idle pier]

Yeah for sure, hadnt thought about that but it does make sense

[idle pier]

More hollowness?

[harsh dove]

I wouldn’t call it hollow

Just opens up the sound stage for the switches a bit more

[idle pier]

I prefer thocc ngl, actually i want to make a custom board for work with silent switches and gasket mount just to have something super quiet

[idle pier]

Oh that shouldnt be a problem at all

Ill give it a shot and let you know

[harsh dove]

Sweet

[idle pier]

You have the salvation right? How does it feel in comparison to the friction mount? / Tray mount?

[harsh dove]

It’s definitely more bouncy , but the sound is not the same

In comparison to the Alumaze

[median spade]

Oh well removing foam will do the opposite of thocc

[idle pier]

Higher pitched?

[idle pier]

its alright, I play with IEMs most of the time but lately ive been bringing my wooting for work as i just cannot type on a qwerty keyboard as a french ahah

So yeah ill give it a shot and let you know tomorrow

I relubed some of my switches properly and fell in love with modding again so here i am ahah

[median spade]

Salvation is a higher pitched case ye

It’s on the ‘bright’ side as they define sound characteristics

[idle pier]

Oh alright I see, well i'm sure it'd be interesting to try as well but damn that slab of aluminium is expensive

[harsh dove]

Yeah, although it is a thicker and heavier case than the Alumaze

Which I guess imo would be slightly deeper than the alumaze

I’d have to do a sound test in both with a naked PCB aka unmodded

[idle pier]

Mhmh one of the things i havent tried is tape mod actually but once you do it its annoying to remove and put switches back in I assume?

[harsh dove]

Nah

If you don’t make screw hole cutouts then you have to remove it any time you remove the plate from PCB but if you cut screw holes like I did then you just leave it on

[idle pier]

Oh that sounds ez enough
I saw you talking about moleskin tape does that make that big of a difference to painter tapr?

[harsh dove]

Idk if I’d say it’s a big difference, everyone’s ears are different

But overall it is deeper

A deeper pop so to say

[idle pier]

Okay so would deffo be my choice

Well thanks for all the info you guys have been super helpful , never dispapointed here 😎

[harsh dove]

Yeah, we’re always happy to help out, just test things for yourself and see what you like and don’t break the bank if you don’t have too. It’s just a keyboard haha

[idle pier]

Nah for sure, and the alumaze looks lovely. Making things better with simple tricks is something I love even though im not super handy in general

[inner fossil]

Anyone got experience with the Alumaze and Tofu Redux? I'm like, down the middle on both for purchase and with the brass bar and shipping they're basically the same price

Like, if you have one what made you swing the other way.

[pastel vigil]

Get alumaze if you like the strap and accent otherwise get the tofu imo

[inner fossil]

Makes sense, it's basically why I'm leaning that way, the strap and the accent.

[stray tiger]

Other thing to consider are things like typing angle and colors

I prefer the lower typing angle of the alumaze

Better colors choices on Tofu though

[inner fossil]

Black either way. Also, I saw a couple videos that made it look like the port is super loose on the alumaze, any input on that?

USB c port

[stray tiger]

Its a fixed cutout, maybe you mean loose on Tofu?

[pastel vigil]

Also worth noting its adjustable. Its not on the tofu.

[harsh dove]

Yeah alumaze comes with two sets of different height feet

Tofu does not

Tofu is also sharp edges, Alumaze is rounded

[inner fossil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/s/r6NzEQpCOd

Here's one

Guy in one of the comments mentions it happens on the alumaze

[stray tiger]

Thats the Tofu

[inner fossil]

Fuck it, I'd rather keep wooting in business for being so solid.

If anything does the alumaze move a bunch cause of the lighter weight? Half the reason I want the tofu is cause of the brass bar

[harsh dove]

No, it still has a good weight to it to not move around

[elfin garnet]

I see no reason whatsoever to move your cable around like that. Mine moves as well if I do that. This has more to do with how the USB-C is attached to the pcb rather than the case imo

[harsh dove]

Yeah this is normal tbh

[inner fossil]

Alright, makes sense. Been wanting to mod my wooting for a while and it's been like 18 months and I'm ready for a change in something lol

[harsh dove]

This is on my frog mini

[elfin garnet]

Same range of motion on my alumaze ^

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[inner fossil]

Don't wiggle that it sends me my nerd person into a weird concern trolling mood about electronics

Lol

[median spade]

Quick everyone send loose cables on usb ports

[polar girder]

Yeah wiggling a port like that gives me the heebie jeebies too lol

But yeah a little bit of play is reasonable

Ofc I had to try it myself tho

[frigid lodge]

So milktooth is sending the sticky rice switches to independent reviewers which is a good sign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q72vXG8V9Fg

I have no idea where people have been getting these before now because milktooth was the first place I saw them for sale

[latent fern]

endgame wooting switch has been here the whole time

THE JADES🙌🏽

[stoic zodiac]

With jade switches ^

[thick quail]

anyone know if these key caps will fit the wooting two he?

[stray tiger]

They have been available from china suppliers for a while. A few people in this chat have them and they are not even close to an endgame switch

Also the sticky rice switches do not currently work well with the Wooting boards, despite the claims. I can show you the test results.

[frigid lodge]

Aliexpress I hope and not temu lol

It's just surprising with everglide's reputation

Also can you show me whatever testing you guys have done, this shit is impossible to google

[stray tiger]

Everglide is just a name, they are not the manufacturer

[frigid lodge]

I understand that lol

[flat light]

10+ hours

damn im tired now

[stray tiger]

Worth it though. Now time to rank up in your ladders

[flat light]

getting theese keycaps for it

[median spade]

Center legends

[marsh saffron]

Those sticky rice switches are intriguing

Might consider picking those up eventually

[frigid lodge]

"the community has tested these switches extensively"

bruh where

[stray tiger]

Be prepared for problems. You can find information here https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[frigid lodge]

The everglides are manufactured by haimu from what I can see?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[frigid lodge]

So they're manufactured by jwick and haimu?

I can't find any listings under jwick glue or whatever

also nice padsmith mat

[stray tiger]

What do you mean listings?

[frigid lodge]

I search for these under the names in the faq and get nothing

[harsh dove]

demon

bro really did that with no tools

[stray tiger]

On the modding FAQ? It's at the bottom

[frigid lodge]

These return zero results lol

[stray tiger]

That's not the exact entry any longer. Just search for Everglide

[frigid lodge]

I'm just trying to figure out where y'all bought these before 😭

[median spade]

don't bother

waste of time and money

[stray tiger]

https://yayatek.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2756.trade-list-buyer.0.0.475a76e9Q0ONnv&tracelog=from_orderlist_company

You can order them here but just buy from milktooth if you want them. It's free shipping with $50

[frigid lodge]

I mean, y'all had them listed as jwk until a few minutes ago, so I'm just trying to see if they're the same switch or they switched manufacturers or what lol

[median spade]

JWK

https://www.ud-finds.shop/items/84281776

someone here already got them so don't bother

so they are terrible atm with 60he

[stray tiger]

Same manufacturer. There are only 3 factories currently able to make HE switches (mainly due to being able to work with magnets) as I understand it.

The JWK's and Everglides (same switch) are made by Haimu

[frigid lodge]

AH okay, that makes sense now

Thank you for explaining

So gateron, haimu, and raesha?

Unless someone makes the drunkdeer switches for raesha

[stray tiger]

Raesha doesn't make their own switches (when it comes to HE). The other manufacturer is the one who makes Raptors, Latenpow and Neo Lavender HE switches

[frigid lodge]

oh, okay

I assumed gateron made the raptors, I couldn't find the manufacturer anywhere I could find

[young lantern]

oh yes for sure, meant to say just MY endgame

[stray tiger]

It's not Gateron and it's intentionally kept secret due to Gateron filing patent suits against the manufacturer

[frigid lodge]

LMAO

That info made my day

[median spade]

the irony just too good

[harsh dove]

Lol yeah I remember this

[stray tiger]

Stealing IP from anyone outside of China is fine. Stealing from inside of China is bad.

[chrome vault]

does anyone make keycaps with the second layer default binding etched

or like custom keycaps ig

[stray tiger]

No because layer 2 bindings arent universal and typically there isnt a complete layer 2

[chrome vault]

what about custom etching?

[stray tiger]

There may be some etsy vendors who can make custom keycaps but I dont know of any

[chrome vault]

alr ty

[tawdry ore]

what are heavier springs that are compatible with lekker switches

i need 80g-90g

[spiral anvil]

Check Ali

[tawdry ore]

aight

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove Its coming soon

[harsh dove]

Greg?

[stray tiger]

No, I was just seeing which GMK color worked best for this case.

[harsh dove]

Oh okay lol

Gonna look crazy

[stray tiger]

I actually dont have (nor can I really find) a good GMk set to go with this so Im leaning towards a key kobo set I have

[stiff plume]

I think I messed up. I am unable to unscrew from the spacebar stabs.

Whenever, I try to unscrew it there like little dust or lines coming out of the screw.

[harsh dove]

You have a rubberband or hot glue gun?

[stiff plume]

I have rubberband, but not hot glue

[harsh dove]

Try putting the rubberband in the screw head and unscrewing it with the screwdriver

[stiff plume]

The rubber band is to big to fit around the screw head.

[harsh dove]

No, put it inside the screw head, where you wore it down

[stiff plume]

my bad

[harsh dove]

No worries

[stiff plume]

Let me try it

[harsh dove]

Yeah it's pretty worn but try it anyway