🔧│keyboard_modding

[boreal violet]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006673262633.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.2.15e1YqI3YqI3sW&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40000.327270.0&scm_id=1007.40000.327270.0&scm-url=1007.40000.327270.0&pvid=11a770e4-f031-4551-a525-f2888bd7e6e3&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40000.327270.0,pvid:11a770e4-f031-4551-a525-f2888bd7e6e3,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238109%231935&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!29.24!26.32!!!31.00!27.90!%40210384cc17127510333498493e8606!12000037980419767!rec!NL!!AB&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A

this one is

[vale swan]

look for the weight on other stores on ali if the weight aint in stock

yep was looking just at that one

the module has the pc plate and that will help with the deeper sound

i'd remove the stock plate foam insert(silicone pad) and either leave nothing or put the normal plate foam for a deeper sound

[boreal violet]

less than 90 for alu case with brass insert is not bad

I think

expected a lot more

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006668395071.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.1.173936f6EteZuT&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40000.327270.0&scm_id=1007.40000.327270.0&scm-url=1007.40000.327270.0&pvid=2d165196-669e-4206-98cf-9b64f904ea4d&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40000.327270.0,pvid:2d165196-669e-4206-98cf-9b64f904ea4d,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238107%231934&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!8.77!2.17!!!67.28!16.67!%40210384cc17127510349718515e8606!12000037979306126!rec!NL!!AB&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=20240410051035027524312843068382213_0 Also found these

[vale swan]

well the tofu is kinda designed to be cheap

its very easy to cnc

[boreal violet]

ye simple shape

[vale swan]

careful around the corners tho

they are really sharp

[boreal violet]

ah oh

[hollow oxide]

I've been using my wooting 60he for both gaming and work (working from home) for a while now and I love it. I'm a software developer so I've remapped some keys and created a custom layer. I'm gonna start working more from the office now and I need a new keyboard. So I need something with a similar layout to the wooting, and I really like the smooth "linear" feel of the switches. I would also need QMK/VIA to remap and have custom layers. Anyone have any recommendations? I've never built any keyboards or modded anything before

[boreal violet]

why not take your keyboard to work?

I do that as a software dev

with a 60%

[hollow oxide]

It's a bit of a hassle tbh

[boreal violet]

I just throw it in my bag 💀

[vale swan]

look at Keychron with the Q1/Q2 Pro or Qwertykeys with their 75

[boreal violet]

Wooting has a carrying case

am gonna do the same w/ my wooting once it's built

[native forge]

Hello guys ! I bought a wooting for valorant mostly, do you know anyone on YouTube that has a modding guide for the best setups for valorant ? Thanks a lot !

[vale swan]

in the tofu its gonna weigh around 1.5-1.6kg

just be aware of that

[hollow oxide]

also my company will cover a new keyboard but I cba ordering a new wooting since it'll take a while to get here

[boreal violet]

I carry a backpack to work

small one

so Ill get the carrying case and throw it in there

and throw that in my backpack

[boreal violet]

charge for your existing one

[hollow oxide]

I still think it's a hassle - I can already see myself forgetting to either bring it to work or bring it home with me

[boreal violet]

Personally i'm too autistic to switch keyboards between home and work so I do this

it's like 80% of the reason why I take it w/ me

[hollow oxide]

Yeah I understand that, I don't really mind that much as long as it's similar

I just need to be able to swap escape/caps-lock and have some other binds

[boreal violet]

Steelseries kb that I have can do that but not the best sound/quality

Apex pro line

but doc suggested this:
"look at Keychron with the Q1/Q2 Pro or Qwertykeys with their 75"

[hollow oxide]

These come without switches and caps? 🤔

[vale swan]

they have prebuilt options too

also barebones

atleast keychron does

[hollow oxide]

ah yeah probably just maxgaming that only carries barebones

[vale swan]

keychron also has a germany store iirc

keychron.de i think

[vale swan]

deltakeyco also has keychron stuff

[hollow oxide]

what switches are similar in typing feel to the wooting?

[vale swan]

uh

thats the first time i saw someone request that

if you are talking about the open bottom ones none really

if you are talking about Jades, any linear switch

[boreal violet]

Apex pro 🗣️

[vale swan]

even the cheapest MX switch will sound better than the best HE switch once you lube and maybe film if needed

well more like reasonably cheap

[hollow oxide]

I don't care about sound, I just like the smooth linear feel

[cedar gate]

YOOOO THEY ARE GONNA RESTOCK CROSSHAIR

[loud zephyr]

get a Bauer Lite 65% for work and be constantly reminded of how you should've just bought the 80HE after realizing translucent cases are so much cooler than you ever imagined. And then cry yourself to sleep because you missed out on the free switch pack the campaign offers

[vale swan]

that is deep

[loud zephyr]

I just wanted to write something with as little use of punctuation as possible; commas are so overrated

[median spade]

Only thing that would make the Bauer Lite better is if it was full aluminum with a brass weight

[loud zephyr]

the only good thing about metal cases is doing the lick test

[median spade]

[vale swan]

🤨

so horny bruh

[versed condor]

i'm going to be buying a wooting keyboard soon but there is no ISO-IT layout so i wanted to ask if someone knew a site where i can buy the keycaps for the italian layout

[inland sparrow]

for the modders... in your experience, whats the diff with the PBT case, and the Zinc Alloy on the 80HE, can describe if you have experience in it ?

[median spade]

Basically you give up when it comes to anything not ISO-UK

[versed condor]

so i should jst get used to the UK one if i want an ISO right?

[median spade]

Essentially

If you want to make your life easier for finding keycaps

[versed condor]

alright,also do you know whats the difference beetwin pcr one and zinc alloy apart from it not having the white choice?

[shell parrot]

there are a good amount of keycaps with NORDE kits

but yeah it sucks

[boreal violet]

https://tenor.com/view/datadog-data-dog-dataism-dataist-datarecovery-gif-1021590645496425248

Yes officer, that's him

[sweet oak]

trust

theyre tasty

[polar girder]

Ok I’ll trust you

And never find out for myself

[elfin garnet]

just to add to this. When you tapemod make sure that every tape piece you put on overlap just an inch. That way, when you need to take it off it comes off alltogether. So when you're done swapping plates you can just re-use the whole tapepiece.

[sweet oak]

missing out

[bronze grove]

wc

It's been a long day

[heady terrace]

why does the pc plate not affect the functionality of magnetic switches? i thought that the steel plate was required to ensure precise actuation

[bronze grove]

Our PC plate is rigid enough to be within our specifications.

[polar girder]

Steel more consistent and harder to mess up for plebs tho

PC plate takes some finesse

[cedar gate]

An updated wooting one would be awesome

Like a wooting one+

With the new tech

Just got my 60 he yesterday and couldn't keep it stock for an hour lol put in tape mod and burger mount right away

And I used to think I would hate the strap but ppl were right it actually looks cool

[bronze grove]

#🌟│wooting80he

That is your updated W1.

[cedar gate]

No I mean same layout

[agile grove]

not really a point imo with the 80he being so close

[cedar gate]

The 80he layout is good but it's unique which means you can only buy from wooring

No tofu case available

[bronze grove]

The same is the case for the Wooting One though.

There are no broadly shared standards outside of 60%

[cedar gate]

I believe wooting one is tkl so any tkl case works on it

[bronze grove]

No.

There is no, one, TKL standard. There's a bunch of them, which are not compatible with each other.

[cedar gate]

Well any that tkl case works

And there are plenty

[agile grove]

the wooting one would still be unique, you wouldnt be able to really just find a case for it. plus it wouldnt be nearly as easy as the 60he, you would most likely need a custoim plate.

[cedar gate]

80 he us just zinc alloy

[bronze grove]

I give up. You're not listening 😄

[cedar gate]

Well I'm sure there is an after market case right

[bronze grove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[cedar gate]

80he doesn't have one

[agile grove]

it might later down the line, iirc there are already some companies looking into to making third party cases for it.

but I wouldnt expect third party cases for quite a while

[cedar gate]

Well yeah it really isn't usually profitable to make a case for 1 kb only

But tkl is quite popular I believe drop has a case that works on wooting one

[bronze grove]

And again... TKL is not one standard. It is a bunch of them, where at most two cases are shared between two PCBs.

[cedar gate]

I know there are a lot of tkls but most of them fall into one of two categories

75% or 80% standard

[agile grove]

we're also not even getting into the plate, which on tkl usually has to be custom made

[bronze grove]

No... Again no. 😄

Look up a TKL kit and see how many cases it is compatible with.
Then look at another - There's a pattern.

[median spade]

PCB layout may be standard, but mounting style and case design very much not

[agile grove]

layouts are standard, mounting (screw positions, gasket, plate, etc) is not

[median spade]

usb port location, jst cable, etc etc

[bronze grove]

[cedar gate]

Ig then but still I honestly prefer the original tkl 80% then wooting 80%

[bronze grove]

That is your prerogative. But to return to the original request - We will not be doing a Wooting One refresh.

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-horse-spank-exhausted-wake-up-gif-17245109

[cedar gate]

Oh damn u work at wooting

I just realized lol

[median spade]

[hollow ibex]

can i mount switches south faced?

[median spade]

ye

[agile grove]

yes, not sure why you would

[cedar gate]

Yes but no rgb I think

[hollow ibex]

module comes with a warnign saying it could dmg pcba

[median spade]

because obviously south facing is superior and I will die on this hill!!

[agile grove]

RGB is cool tho

[median spade]

Maybe if you're 12

jk people can like rgb I just don't like it myself

[cedar gate]

I don't like rgb that much but if it's there I'll use it

I wouldn't actively try to turn it off

[agile grove]

depends on the build imo

[median spade]

my pc is solid side panel and black but I did have my rgb phase at one point like everyone else

[cedar gate]

During like proper matches I turn it off for min latency on tachyon

[agile grove]

like all black with dim white rgb looks clean imo

[median spade]

also dan the reason south facing is superior is it's as god cherry intended

but there used to be interference using north facing and cherry profile keycaps

still is on the MX side, but HE switches solved that

[polar girder]

South facing LED allows for better side print shine through

Only reason I care

[agile grove]

nvm read that wrong

[polar girder]

My side print so dull on 60He

[median spade]

I just do south facing as I don't like the way north facing looks and don't use rgb

[polar girder]

Esp with tachyon

My switches are north

[agile grove]

if you're using a cable that can handle it you can unlock the rgb brightness

[polar girder]

South didn’t help brightness

[polar girder]

Stock cable. What you mean

[agile grove]

theres a little lock icon above the rgb brightness when using tachyon

you can click on it to unlock it

[polar girder]

I’ll have to check it out

Nice thanks

More brightness would be great

[hollow ibex]

is it bad if pcb is bent a bit in the middle

[polar girder]

If it causes issues: yes. If it doesn’t cause issues: prob not

🥸

[vale swan]

i did north for a bit but went back to south as R3 and R4 had a bit of interference with my GMK Dracula v2

[hollow ibex]

nah its just that middle doesnt have screw holes so it flexes out a bit since the case is full of foam

[vale swan]

either way its irrelevant for custom keycaps, might as well put it south

[polar girder]

I had too much foam in my case previously and it caused intermittent issues

Switches not working or double tap etc

Removed some foam and it’s fine now

[hollow ibex]

ill see

ill keep that in mind tho ty

[vale swan]

if you mean the pcb moving up and down thats fine

in the salvation it moves like crazy

and it doesnt affect anything

[median spade]

this is why I always just do south facing anyways

[harsh dove]

Morning folks

What I miss

[vale swan]

i saw ubisofts new star wars game

they really knocked it out of the park with that one

[median spade]

just dan not believing mansen about keyboard design and mounting

[harsh dove]

I did south facing last night just for you when I plate swapped

[median spade]

[vale swan]

nice

[median spade]

beautiful

[harsh dove]

Just read that, was pretty funny

Then realizing he works at Wooting

[vale swan]

who is rootin bruh

[harsh dove]

Shhh

Secret govt group

[median spade]

need to swap my jades back in

used my franken after work and not it

well they're fine but yeah

[vale swan]

dw i aint snitchin

[harsh dove]

Yeah Frankie’s hate me

[harsh dove]

I brought that mx board I showed last night to work with me today

And one of the switches is dead lol

I swapped it to another spot and still don’t work lol and the pins are fine

[agile grove]

why HE is simply superior

[cedar gate]

Damn I wish they made L45 default

L60 is honestly heavy asf

[harsh dove]

Truth except for sound

[cedar gate]

Stock doesn't sound terrible tho

[harsh dove]

Compared to MX, it does

[cedar gate]

Room for Improvement fr sure

[cedar gate]

Oh yeah no competition

[harsh dove]

Just get jades problem solved

/s

[cedar gate]

I'm broke🤣

Need Like 23 more bucks

But jades are the first thing I will buy

[hollow ibex]

how tf do i change rgb

[cedar gate]

Wootility.io

[hollow ibex]

yeah

but how

[cedar gate]

The color tab

[hollow ibex]

is there no way to just press off

[agile grove]

you just click on the key you want to change with the color you want to change

[cedar gate]

Just pick a color and click the key

[agile grove]

just turn the brightness to zero

[cedar gate]

Inferno looks super cool btw

[cedar gate]

No don't lol I would do 50

[hollow ibex]

doesnt change colours for me unless i choose a preset

wait im lying

nevermind

[harsh dove]

There’s also a ton of video guides for Wootility

Made by Wooting

[cedar gate]

He's good

Presets are honestly good tho

Inferno looks super cool

[hollow ibex]

no yeah i figured out why im not getting the results i wanted

i hjave south facing

[cedar gate]

Oooohh

[hollow ibex]

just wanted to try white rgb vs off

[harsh dove]

Based

[cedar gate]

Lol that makes sense

[hollow ibex]

but white gave me blue xd

[harsh dove]

South Facing Supremacy

Yeah the wooting white isn’t white

It’s bluish

[agile grove]

yeah

[hollow ibex]

no my switches are blue

so it made the white bluer

[cedar gate]

It's like grayish blue

[agile grove]

also if you use jades its even bluer

[harsh dove]

Ah

Then yeah

[cedar gate]

Does jades mess with warm colors?

[harsh dove]

And tbf it’s not quite possible to get actual white with RGB

They just use all the colors

[hollow ibex]

yeah im using jades

[cedar gate]

I'm planning to use black pc plate with jades

[cedar gate]

Warm colors like Reds and oranges

[agile grove]

black pc plate will dim your rgb

[harsh dove]

You need actual white LEDs to do so

[cedar gate]

Ik I want it subtle

[agile grove]

rgbw my beloved

[harsh dove]

That too

[cedar gate]

I haven't even gamed on wooting yet but tenz said it was so good it felt like cheating

[agile grove]

depends on the game

[harsh dove]

Yeah you’re not gonna be cheating on Cyberpunk 2077 with a wooting

[agile grove]

personally I bought my wooting to play my favorite games

minecraft and roblox

[harsh dove]

I bought it cause the internet told me too

[agile grove]

oh that too

[harsh dove]

And then I bought another one

[agile grove]

I also modded it since the internet told me too

[harsh dove]

Same

[cedar gate]

But fr it's soo good

It's prollly the most expensive keyboard I've ever owned

[agile grove]

same

[cedar gate]

And after mods it's gonna be like 400

[agile grove]

damn

[cedar gate]

It's as much as my pc lol

[agile grove]

mine was like $360 in total?

[cedar gate]

Imna get jades tofu60 pbt fans pc plate lube tools the works

[agile grove]

prob more if I end up modding it more (like getting new switches)

[vale swan]

kinda cheap

[agile grove]

in what way is that cheap

[vale swan]

for a custom modded keyboard

its relatively cheap

[agile grove]

comparatively yes sure ig

[vale swan]

my case alone starts at 330 and with taxes it was 380 shipped+taxes n everything

400 for a custom once everything is modded aint really expensive

you should see how much racing sim upgrades cost if you think this is bad lmao

[agile grove]

I guess

[vale swan]

in a vacuum its expensive ye

but once u look at the entire market its rlly not

im not saying its justified but it is what it is

[agile grove]

true

[vale swan]

the thing people dont think abt too much

is shipping from like 2-3 places + taxes add up insanely quick

[agile grove]

ong

[vale swan]

thats why i will never understand people saying why is tofu 60$ but alumaze is 130

[agile grove]

tofu from kbdfans is like 85 after shipping

[vale swan]

with all things said and done you need the brass weight and shipping b4 taxes from kbd and its 115

sure u can buy it from aliexpress too

[agile grove]

tho there are official distributors that ship for way cheaper

[vale swan]

well ye

[agile grove]

but it can be hard to find them in stock there

[vale swan]

yeah

[agile grove]

ik max gaming is like always out of stock

[vale swan]

a guy in here came and i helped him find the tofu on the kbd ali store but the weight was out of stock

maxgaming is so ass

[agile grove]

maxgaming is fine

[vale swan]

their website is so bloated with shit

[cedar gate]

What case did you buy bruh

[vale swan]

when you are trying to change shit

[cedar gate]

Base tofu is like 60$

[vale swan]

i bought alumaze tofu and salvation but the salvation was that one

[vale swan]

that is irrelevant

[agile grove]

salvation is goated tho

[vale swan]

depends on what you want

[agile grove]

true true

[vale swan]

i got a better spacebar out of the o ring tofu

[agile grove]

I personally like the look of it more than other cases

[vale swan]

yeah the looks are good

[agile grove]

I have the tofu tho cuz it comes in a color I like

[vale swan]

yeah tofu has a lot of colors

it is for sure the best budget case

[agile grove]

also why I got it

[vale swan]

you can prob get it from aliexpress for around 100$ with the weight

[cedar gate]

What do they charge 300 for

Is it heavy or smth

[vale swan]

yes

but

it has a different mounting system

[agile grove]

salvation also comes with a carrying case and pcb, among other things iirc

[vale swan]

it also has better case acoustics

it spends way more time in the CNC

[elfin garnet]

You cant buy the case alone?

[vale swan]

its not just a basic block of metal

[vale swan]

not from salvun directly no

NK alllows it

[cedar gate]

That's more than my monitor and phone combined

[vale swan]

but im not american

[vale swan]

thats fine

ur not the target audience for this

I am

[cedar gate]

Monitor is 210 and phone is 80 because gaming is life lol

[cedar gate]

What do you get for your money tho

[vale swan]

if u have a 210$ monitor you prob should not own a wooting just saying

[elfin garnet]

How do I pick just the case?

[agile grove]

that is just the case

[cedar gate]

Pre inflation its pretty good 210hz 1440 compatible

[median spade]

The hot swaps can be finicky with some pins sometimes

[vale swan]

better mounting, better case acoustics, higher pitch sound if thats what you want, better looks, corners that don't cut you, pcb, carrying case and fr4 plate

[elfin garnet]

Right I thought it was 300 for the case + some other crap

but its the case alone

[agile grove]

the corner thing is so true lmao

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair enough

[cedar gate]

Oh it comes with a pcb

[vale swan]

for me it was 330 in euros b4 shipping and taxes with the case pcb plate and carrying case

[agile grove]

full salvation kit is a bit more expensive than that

[elfin garnet]

eu or us?

[vale swan]

EU

[median spade]

Mx makers not following cherry spec does this sometimes

[elfin garnet]

Can I ask which country?

[vale swan]

i didnt get the hotswap pcb unfortunately

[agile grove]

you can sometimes get the salvation on sale

[cedar gate]

Bro is Jeff bezos

[vale swan]

nah

300 is nothing for me

i have extremely expensive shit

[elfin garnet]

baller

[vale swan]

either way not the point

[harsh dove]

Gotta love it

[vale swan]

the original point is why the tofu isnt really 60 bucks

[agile grove]

tbh 300 really isnt that much

esp if you are good at saving money and have a job

[vale swan]

its not abt just that

[harsh dove]

Tofu is basically same as alumaze after brass weight and shipping + taxes

[vale swan]

you shouldnt be looking at shit like this unless you are fully financially stable

[elfin garnet]

im considering fjell anyway almost same price but not sure what I want. Just know that Im tired of alumaze

[vale swan]

you just shouldnt

[cedar gate]

Slightly cheaper but yeah

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

i dont see a reason to own the fjell

its just a better looking tofu to me

[cedar gate]

Tofu is way better compared to alumaze tho

[agile grove]

depends

[vale swan]

its for sure a great tray mount

[median spade]

Make pins thinner for hotswap so it’s easier to swap out and then it doesn’t register

[vale swan]

but not worth it

[harsh dove]

If the Fjell came with all the stuff a Salvation did, I’d buy it

But it’s just a case

[vale swan]

i still wouldnt

[agile grove]

imo tofu looks worse than the alumaze but sounds better

[harsh dove]

Bro, literally

[vale swan]

the looks arent enough to justify a 3x price hike over the tofu

[vale swan]

yeah thats where I'm at with this

[harsh dove]

Pretty much

[agile grove]

I have also heard mixed things about the acoustics of the fjell

[vale swan]

the alumaze ano also seems to be much more resistant to scratches and fingerprinting

[cedar gate]

I think they are about equal

[elfin garnet]

dno I think it looks great, but what does salvation come with that you actually would use in a wooting build? I only care about the case - the other stuff would end up being spare parts

[vale swan]

nah no way

they are good for diff purposes

equal hell no

[harsh dove]

Yeah ano on Alumaze is high quality

[vale swan]

i wish i got the concrete gray

[median spade]

Yeah my zoom75 has this issue with the hmx stuff

I had to swap 7 different switches till it got one with slightly thicker pins

[elfin garnet]

as in business gray?

[cedar gate]

In looks I mean

[harsh dove]

Everything except PCB

[vale swan]

no for the alumaze

[agile grove]

alumaze is higher quality when it comes to build, materials, and design but sorta lacks a bit in sound compared to the tofu.

[vale swan]

and plate

[harsh dove]

Doesn’t come with

[elfin garnet]

oh alumaze. I got concrete gray but yeah its meh

[vale swan]

it does

mine came with an fr4 plate

[harsh dove]

Mine didn’t

[vale swan]

rip

mine did

tho i got it from salvun directly

[harsh dove]

Ah

[mint oracle]

Btw the geon raptor housing and spring with the lekker 60 stem feels amazing

[median spade]

Best case for 60he is frog mini

If you want sound and feel imo

[vale swan]

probably true

[agile grove]

true

[harsh dove]

Do you still have that silver one Tenturo?

[median spade]

I can confirm after using everything for my 60he

[vale swan]

i feel like the salvation is better for feel

[median spade]

Yeah I do

[vale swan]

for sound that depends

[harsh dove]

👀

[agile grove]

esp now that the plate is easier to get

[vale swan]

the frog has 2 mounting methods does it not? tadpole n top mount

[cedar gate]

Wait if I get jades should I use any lekker parts on them

[median spade]

Just tadpole

[agile grove]

no

[vale swan]

what is the point of that

[vale swan]

cant u do top mount with it?

[median spade]

No

[vale swan]

oh damn

[median spade]

Tadpole is top mount

[vale swan]

ah

[median spade]

Using tadpoles instead of screws

Ye

[vale swan]

ohh

now it makes sense

[agile grove]

lekker stem + raptors is to make the switch tighter and fix issues with the magnets

[elfin garnet]

so where in eu are u from doc? and which site did you order from?

[vale swan]

salvun

this is what i paid for it

[agile grove]

tbh I would just get ks-20us if you really wanted a tighter switch but if you want the look and slightly different sound of the frankenswitch then its not a bad option

[vale swan]

@elfin garnet https://salvun.com/

i would also consider the frog mini and the tofu o ring

[mint oracle]

Yep, my presses feel so much more direct. Its hard to explain, but it feels way more precise on my presses. Like my keypresses are directed, my keys wobble with pure lekker switches. Ive been very sensitive to the wobble, it drives me crazy, this is me explaining it to a buddy

[vale swan]

oh he increased the price of the one i got

wonder why

[harsh dove]

Did you pay full price or get it on sale?

[elfin garnet]

ye i would probably go for something like this

[vale swan]

i paid 344

b4 shipping

[harsh dove]

I got mine on Black Friday for $220 , Full Kit, Not just case like NK Spring Sale

[vale swan]

and taxes

thats euros too

[harsh dove]

Shipping was free for me

[vale swan]

i got DHL express

cuz i had no patience

[harsh dove]

And I paid taxes with extra cash I had on shop app

[vale swan]

and i will continue to get dhl express

normal dhl is dogshit

[harsh dove]

Yeah I usually do express for eveyrthing

Expedited etc

[vale swan]

dhl took 9 days for my maxgaming order to come, DHL express usually takes 2-3 after processing

[harsh dove]

Take my money and give me my stuff!!

[vale swan]

ye it is twice as expensive

but it ships 4 times faster

[elfin garnet]

to my address

[vale swan]

thats a huge W

thats nice

for me its 335 not sure why

thats a pretty steep price difference

[harsh dove]

U special

[vale swan]

ye

I am

[elfin garnet]

probably getting sent by the toll department when it gets here tho

[vale swan]

i hope salvun gives me nudes for 80 eur plus

[vale swan]

if im so special, why dont u give me them kitty caps aye

[elfin garnet]

when i ordered the wooting I had to pay an additional 70 euroes for them handling the commodity

[vale swan]

well ig this is why its cheaper

[vale swan]

sold out?

for me its still in stock

interesting

[harsh dove]

Special

Told u

[vale swan]

our prices do include VAT in them tho

[harsh dove]

Hotswap is sold out

Not solderable

[vale swan]

it is

but u can get mekanisk pcbs

[elfin garnet]

why does it say ansi or iso in the description but there is no option to choose iso

[vale swan]

solder pcb can do ISO

[harsh dove]

Yea

[vale swan]

and he sells extra plates

[elfin garnet]

it doesnt matter tho because its gonna end up in a drawer

[vale swan]

oh those are sold out too in ansi

tho im not gonna buy hotswap no point

i am unlikely to main MX ever again and soldering isnt hard

[harsh dove]

Yeah if you’re not gonna use it

No point

Just get the cheaper solderable

[vale swan]

i already got it

with the plate

all i need is stabs

[harsh dove]

Yeah I know

I’m just saying in general

For others

[elfin garnet]

kinda annoying.. I really only want the case

[harsh dove]

Missed NK Spring Sale

[vale swan]

i'd use my TX stabs but the asshole that ordered them ordered them in long pole because he thought it'd be cool to try long pole stabs even if they arent needed

[elfin garnet]

they sold the case separetely? how much was it?

[cedar gate]

I'm not too experienced with modding but I did a burger mount and now the pcb comes out super easy

[vale swan]

remember kids, never buy long pole stabs

[cedar gate]

Is that supposed to happen

[harsh dove]

Like $180

Just the case

Nothing else

[vale swan]

cam what did you put on ur salvation MX pcb?

[cedar gate]

Like no screws nothing you can just lift it out

[harsh dove]

Rn I have Tecsee IceCandys

[vale swan]

i have some old ass tealios 67g linears that are hand lubed and gat blacks thats abt it

i like the tealios more than the gat blacks so i might solder those on

[elfin garnet]

do I need anything else? I guess the internals of the case like the leaf springs is included with the actual case or nah?

[cedar gate]

Halp ppl

[vale swan]

i could order some HMX switches from the US but too much hassle for something that wont be used

[harsh dove]

Yeah fiberglass leaf springs come with the case

Don’t need anything

Maybe a nail filer if you don’t have one

[vale swan]

i was gonna order the stabs u told me abt with my pbtfans abs caps but they are out of stock nwo

[harsh dove]

To file down the leaf springs

[harsh dove]

You find them in stock anywhere?

[vale swan]

nope

this is from candykeys btw

[harsh dove]

Lmk when you do

[elfin garnet]

https://keyboardtreehouse.com/products/salvation-case-kit

[vale swan]

i will

[elfin garnet]

found this

[harsh dove]

I have them coming with a keyboard GB I’m in

[cedar gate]

Nobody? lol

[harsh dove]

So I’ll get them eventually

[median spade]

you going to pay out thte ass for shipping on this one

this is from aussie land

[harsh dove]

Yep

[vale swan]

what the fuck is the point of the case and plate only

[elfin garnet]

yeah i know i ordered my keycaps from there once

never again

[harsh dove]

Aussie try to charge me $50-80 for shipping

[vale swan]

lmaoooo

its prob easier to order from canada

[median spade]

you can technically use any left sided usb c is why

[elfin garnet]

only need this, rest is garbage

[median spade]

so save money on the pcb

rest is not garbage

wt60 pcbs are great

[elfin garnet]

yes but im nota gonna use it

could try to sell it

[cedar gate]

The fr4 could be good too

[harsh dove]

FR4 is great

The carry case is too

[elfin garnet]

Can I use it with the wooting?

[cedar gate]

Hey do you need to buy new screws for burger mount

[harsh dove]

No

I’ve done it with the stock screws

Most recommended buying longer ones

But I did it without

[elfin garnet]

then its garb

[cedar gate]

Mine are short asf and the screws don't fit in the hole anymore

[elfin garnet]

😅

[cedar gate]

After 2 orings per screw

[harsh dove]

It’s an mx PCB lol

[vale swan]

you should try burger mount in the salvation it might eliminate the need for a tape mod

[cedar gate]

I can just pull the whole thing out of the case how do I fix it

[vale swan]

i would try it but im too lazy

[harsh dove]

I do

With tape mod

[vale swan]

oh u have it burger mounted?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

damn

i didnt bother tbh

[harsh dove]

Yeah I did it when I was testing foam inside it

[elfin garnet]

are u using salvation as well cam?

[vale swan]

i have o rings but they are nylon not silicone

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

ye this guy is very similar to me somehow

[harsh dove]

No you’re similar to me

[elfin garnet]

keeb brothers

[vale swan]

😳

how tall are u

[median spade]

My salvation got moved to only Mx

It too good

[harsh dove]

6’3”

[vale swan]

nice

[harsh dove]

What I’m using currently at work

[median spade]

[vale swan]

i'm between 6'4 n 5

[median spade]

Imagine being tall

[vale swan]

wait you take the pcb in and out?

everytime

[harsh dove]

If you count my hair then I’m 6’5”

[median spade]

[vale swan]

interesting

[harsh dove]

Nah just today I did

[vale swan]

tho i guess you are older than 22

[harsh dove]

25

[vale swan]

nice

are u balding too or is that just me

[harsh dove]

Full head of hair

Ask Tirade

[vale swan]

well damn

[elfin garnet]

send this man to turkey

[vale swan]

nah i saw u show ur face on stream i just remembered

[cedar gate]

Wait you know thockfather irl lol

[harsh dove]

No

[vale swan]

i am the clackfather myself

[harsh dove]

I could if I go to keycon

[cedar gate]

How would he know your hair then lol

[harsh dove]

8hrs away from me

[vale swan]

we are opposites

[harsh dove]

Streams

[vale swan]

cuz of the streams

they both showed their faces

[agile grove]

i am the metal-is-lower-pitched-compared-to-plasticfather myself

[vale swan]

i respect that

[agile grove]

🤝

[vale swan]

i am the grindfather too

i grind i hustle i clack

all of that

n i still dont get kitty keycaps

[median spade]

I should try my 60he in my slavation again

been a minute

[harsh dove]

You shouldn’t

[vale swan]

slavation huh

[harsh dove]

Slavication

[vale swan]

dont

ur gonna get pissed off

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/squats-bissen-squatting-intensifies-gif-15052026

[vale swan]

also we cant have 3 active salvation users here

2 is enough

what color salvation u have @median spade

[agile grove]

cam counts as almost every case user

[vale swan]

i have 3 cases too

[agile grove]

bro has so many wootings

[harsh dove]

So does doc

And tirade

[vale swan]

tho tofu doesnt count

[harsh dove]

And Tenturo

[vale swan]

i had 2 wootings too

lmao

[agile grove]

damn

[harsh dove]

Tirade has 4

[vale swan]

ye

[harsh dove]

I have 2

[vale swan]

LOL

[agile grove]

maybe im just the one with like no wootings

[vale swan]

😭

[harsh dove]

Boutta have 3

[median spade]

black

[harsh dove]

With the 80HE

[vale swan]

we need to buy 2 more cam

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[vale swan]

to match tirade

ye this is dick measuring contest bruh

[agile grove]

tirade is just too cool for us 😔

we can never match him

[harsh dove]

He is the OG

Yeah he’s the goat

[median spade]

I used freebird60, tofu, frog, salvation, fjell, klippe, etc with mine so far

[vale swan]

right

[cedar gate]

Can someone please tell me I did burger mount with 2 o rings per screw now they don't fit in the holes do I need new screws

[vale swan]

im too broke for that

ig

[marsh saffron]

The tofu is starting to grow on me ngl

[vale swan]

i only have 3 cases

poor me

[elfin garnet]

which is your favorite and why

[harsh dove]

You might need longer screws

M2x5mm

[marsh saffron]

I have stock case 😭

[cedar gate]

Is there a way to do it without

[median spade]

none of them with 60he really

[cedar gate]

I'm so broke

[vale swan]

i used M2x4 for stock and M2x5 for burger

[harsh dove]

Do you have a pic of how yours is applied?

[median spade]

I'm using a freebird60 with fricition mount however at the moment for the looks

but frog mini was the best with 60he easily

[harsh dove]

I got burger to work with m2x4

Idk how but I did

Even with moleskin tape mod

[vale swan]

i did too but it was a lil too tight

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[vale swan]

and had to screw it tightly

[harsh dove]

I just barely thread it

[vale swan]

which defeats the point

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

ye thats why i did with the 5mm one

[marsh saffron]

I put so much tape on my pcb the stock screws just barely screw in enough

[vale swan]

that one u just screw it in a bit

and thats that

[vale swan]

thats bad

[vale swan]

the pcb needs some air in that bitch

[marsh saffron]

It's fineeee

It isn't like squishing the pcb/bending it

It's just a tight fit

[vale swan]

@harsh dove think abt it we let tirade get away with having 4 wootings

we need to fanum tax him

[cedar gate]

R u talking about me?

[vale swan]

1 each

[cedar gate]

Is he going to live doctor

[harsh dove]

Might need longer screws or you maybe to apply a bit of force to get the screw to thread

[elfin garnet]

can you use foam in the salvation or will that fuck up with the leaf springs?

[harsh dove]

You can but defeats the purpose

I’ve tried it

It’s not terrible

But not ideal

[cedar gate]

I honestly don't think that's possible should I take off one ring instead

[elfin garnet]

I see but its not pingy without?

[cedar gate]

I will get screws soon

[harsh dove]

Take off the one between the plate and PCB

Then just use one between case standoff and PCB

Should be fine that way

[harsh dove]

Nah

It’s a thick case

[cedar gate]

Will it affect quality

[harsh dove]

Tape mod helps

[harsh dove]

Little bit but should give similar effect

[vale swan]

i saw some guys use zip n fit shelfliner that you can cut in squares and put it around the leaf springs

but i dont really see the point

[harsh dove]

Yeah the case really doesn’t need it

I think it’s great

Cause I’m anti foam anyway

[vale swan]

for HE all you need is 1 layer of tape

for MX probably nothing

[harsh dove]

1 layer of moleskin *

[vale swan]

i used paper tape and it helped a lot

[harsh dove]

Try moleskin

Then come back to me

[vale swan]

i will when i cba to unscrew 2 screws

[harsh dove]

It’s $6

[vale swan]

which is not anytime soon

[harsh dove]

And alright

[vale swan]

i finally want to use this board bruh

so much tinkering so much lube

now it shall be used

[harsh dove]

Hehe

[vale swan]

👀

[elfin garnet]

its look interesting, the salvation

[vale swan]

no snitchin

oh u got woothelp how did i just now realize

i thought the orange was just a random role

[harsh dove]

Hahaha

[vale swan]

what does woothelp even do

i hope ur not moderating

that sounds painful

[drifting bronze]

Is it worth the time lubing the lekkers

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[vale swan]

well

[drifting bronze]

For how long?

[marsh saffron]

Like how long does it take?

[vale swan]

if you're buying new switches soon no

[harsh dove]

What it sounds like

[vale swan]

its just a waste of perfectly good lube

[harsh dove]

I help Woot

[drifting bronze]

Nah how long until it's broken in

[vale swan]

so i can ping u anytime im stuck?

[harsh dove]

No

[vale swan]

damn

[harsh dove]

Also an NDA involved

[vale swan]

oh god

[marsh saffron]

Mine took about a week to "break in" where they didn't just sound over lubed

[vale swan]

ye i aint fuckin with that

im not that active here anyway

[marsh saffron]

But they haven't changed since then which was months ago

[drifting bronze]

I could buy the orange ones

[marsh saffron]

And sound much much better than stock

[vale swan]

i only really chat in this channel and when im bored or i see people i know

[drifting bronze]

Bc I don't like the sound of the jades

[vale swan]

buy KS20U

[drifting bronze]

So they still sound good when they brake in?

[vale swan]

not the original orange v1 ks20

those are a waste of time

[drifting bronze]

Yeah but u have a orange version and a white one right?

[vale swan]

well

[marsh saffron]

Yes a lot better than stock

[vale swan]

the KS20U has a white stem and orange stem version yes

the ks20 v1 is fully orange or fully white

[drifting bronze]

I have my wooting for only a week and I want to upgrade

[vale swan]

buy KS20U Dual rails

[harsh dove]

Plus you’re not helpful

[vale swan]

if u hate jades

[vale swan]

damn

[harsh dove]

[vale swan]

i only helped like 2 people

im not the kinda guy to unironically pop in n help everyone

i lack too much patience for that

[harsh dove]

Fair

[drifting bronze]

Do the lekkers even sound better when they broke in

[harsh dove]

Least you’re aware

[vale swan]

ye i am aware

i'm never gonna do shit u do in here

plus its fun having no responsibilities

or being tied to shit

[vale swan]

they sound worse when they break in

💀

[drifting bronze]

No I mean compared to stock

[vale swan]

idk i lubed mine the 3rd day i got them

cuz i could not stand them

[marsh saffron]

Depends on the mood for me

I either troll or help

🤣

[vale swan]

LOL

[drifting bronze]

Jades are to loud in my opinion

[vale swan]

kinda the same

[vale swan]

that is true

they can be calmed down with lube a bit

thats kinda their whole point

[drifting bronze]

But I like more of a thocky board

[harsh dove]

Just turn the volume down in your ears

eZ

[marsh saffron]

Still waiting for silent HE switches to release

[vale swan]

then KS20U

[vale swan]

as long as it has a closed bottom yes

[drifting bronze]

Where can I buy them in eu

[vale swan]

aliexpress gateron store or ymdk store for the white ones

[marsh saffron]

What exactly does closed bottom do for the sound/feel

I thought that's what made the jades so much louder

[vale swan]

it doesnt feel mushy when you type on it

and there is a bottom out sound

[marsh saffron]

Oh

[vale swan]

it sounds close to an MX switch

all you hear with the lekkers imo is the plate and keycaps

[marsh saffron]

Id be fine with just a silent switch in general but closed bottom would be a cherry on top

[vale swan]

and the rattle ofc

[marsh saffron]

Yeah for sure

[vale swan]

i didnt mind that at first

until i got the jades in

[marsh saffron]

PC plate helps make it less pingy which helps make it better

[drifting bronze]

Do the lekkers benefit of a PC plate

[vale swan]

imo no

[pastel vigil]

closed bottom is mandatory, open bottom switches feel like absolute ass idk who thought they were a good idea

[vale swan]

atleast in the stock case

they sounded better with the steel plate

to me

[drifting bronze]

I'm getting the tofu redux

[marsh saffron]

Imo it did but probably not as much as other switches

Tbh I mostly got PC plate because the black one looks better

Than white steel plate

[vale swan]

for me it made it quieter but it made the rattle way more apparent

[drifting bronze]

Yeah that to

[marsh saffron]

This is true

[vale swan]

in the alu cases PC plate 100%

but not in the plastic one

thats for sure

[drifting bronze]

So for the tofu redux a PC plate

[vale swan]

well if you want the stock wooting plates ye

i personally like FR4 and CF the best there

the FR4 and the CF have insane spacebars in the tofu

in the salvation its 100% either CF or PC tho

FR4 is a bit weird there with the jades

[drifting bronze]

Where can u get the fr4 or cf

[marsh saffron]

I think the people that sell the tofu have it specifically for wooting

On their website

(correct me if I'm wrong)

[vale swan]

kbdfans

or smkeyboards

[drifting bronze]

I'm from eu

[shell inlet]

Wanted to do the tape mod but I heard it can mess up the pcb has that happen to anyone

[drifting bronze]

It takes long then

[vale swan]

aliexpress kbdfans store then

[pastel vigil]

Only if you use tape that's too thick or too sticky

[marsh saffron]

Just use masking/painters tape and don't put too much

[harsh dove]

FR4 is nice in the tofu, weird in the slavation

The bottom row alphas are weird

[vale swan]

for me the bottom row and the backspace were terrible with FR4 in the salvation

idk why

tho i dont use a deskpad

[harsh dove]

Can also get plates from Canada aka HypeKeyboards

[vale swan]

you could but he is from the EU

and he is gonna get clapped by import fees

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Just giving options

[vale swan]

you and i might accept that

i doubt he will tho

ye options good for sure

will u buy the holy60 btw

[harsh dove]

I can’t remember the backspace but probably was bad too

No

[vale swan]

i think it'd be the perfect candidate

for ur MX build

also smth cool for work

[harsh dove]

I got an end game board for that

[vale swan]

i see

what u got

[harsh dove]

Protagonist

[vale swan]

idk what that is tbh

but sounds nice

[harsh dove]

Google can help you

[vale swan]

later

[harsh dove]

lol

[vale swan]

time to tune into alex's stream

almost forgot

[harsh dove]

He’s gonna be building one soon

[vale swan]

perfect

[polar girder]

Protagonist is sweet

For sure

But idc cuz not 60HE compatible

[pastel vigil]

I wonder if it would be possible to get a plate from them for the wooting, but ask him to leave more room for stabs to prevent issues with tx and staebies

[pastel vigil]

mood

[harsh dove]

I had SMKeyboards do this for me so they might

I got Aluminum, POM, FR4 from them

[pastel vigil]

Well no wonder you are the only one who can make TX work

[harsh dove]

All work without issue

lol well they work for me on the wooting PC plates too

Not the steel plate obvs

[pastel vigil]

[harsh dove]

But it’s 50/50 with the pc plate for some people

[pastel vigil]

I have a new module/PC plate on the way so well see lol

[harsh dove]

Alex plays Helldivers? Chad

And deep rock galactic

[drifting bronze]

Wait these are the bad ones

[harsh dove]

Certified Chad

[harsh dove]

Yes

[drifting bronze]

Ok

[pastel vigil]

you want the duel rails

[drifting bronze]

Ah ok

I can't buy them becouse otherwise I'll get fucked by shipping

[harsh dove]

Where you from?

[pastel vigil]

Ali express bro

[harsh dove]

Lmao I just heard to longest rant about why you shouldn’t use foam in keyboards

[drifting bronze]

Eu

[pastel vigil]

why not

[harsh dove]

“ Yo, let me drop some knowledge, no need to applaud, Using foam in keyboards, man, that's just fraud. It might seem cool, all cushioned and soft, But let me tell you, it's gonna make your typing go off. Some say it dampens noise, makes it serene, But trust me, it's a gimmick, not what it seems. Get rid of the foam, let your switches shine, Your keyboard will thank you, it'll work just fine.”

[vale swan]

same i was abt to ping u for it

LMAO

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[vale swan]

chatgpt paragraph

[harsh dove]

Fr

[vale swan]

he admitted to it in chat

[harsh dove]

“Let your switches shine”

I’m dead

[vale swan]

i mean man is spittin

he aint wrong

[harsh dove]

Nah all fax

I feel the same way

[vale swan]

fr

then there is thockson who has so much polyfill in the case that it bounces almost as much as a salvation lmao

[drifting bronze]

I think i.m gonna do the setup black tofu redux case and brass weight PC wooting plate black and the lubed lekkers and the black keycaps from wooting

[harsh dove]

Solid

[drifting bronze]

Is that okay?

[harsh dove]

Yep

Will look great too

[pastel vigil]

So no case foam? damn

[drifting bronze]

And how is the sound when the lubed lekkers when they break in

[vale swan]

ye

[harsh dove]

No sir

[vale swan]

we dont use case foam

[harsh dove]

Get rid of the foam

[vale swan]

real

[harsh dove]

It’s just packing material

[drifting bronze]

Hahahahaha

[harsh dove]

But people mistake it for keyboard foam

[vale swan]

we serious 100%

[drifting bronze]

No way man

[pastel vigil]

April fools

[vale swan]

i always start the build with no foam then see what it needs

[pastel vigil]

ngl i will try without foam, i havent actually havent.

[vale swan]

stuffing it with foam imo kills the entire project for me

[pastel vigil]

i had a stroke

[vale swan]

if you use a deskpad you can get away with no foam in the tofu redux

i didnt so i just used bottom case foam in that thing

in the salvation i used nothing

in the alumaze the tape mod did more than the foam which is interesting

[drifting bronze]

But what's ur opinion on the silicone pad with the PC plate or would that just not sound thocky with the lubed lekkers

[vale swan]

its for a higher pitch