🔧│keyboard_modding

[mystic pumice]

What kinda parts? If they are really needed then I might be down for paying for the shipping

[harsh dove]

I used to have tons but all I got left right now are some 1440p monitors, about 15-20 fans, Corsair and Lian Li fans, quite a few sets of RAM, DDR4 and DDR5

And everything is fairly new tbh

(I take care of my stuff)

[mystic pumice]

Dude that would be sick! Imma let you know at a later date about mid next month when my friend gets his pay and we will be looking at a PC for him

[harsh dove]

Alright, yeah just hmu if you need

[quiet bay]

Just installed some of the fans

can't install the cpu cooler just yet

I have to wait for new thermal paste to arrive 😔

[quiet bay]

oh wth you just have 1440p monitors laying around? and then 15-20 fans 💀

my computer is already noticeably more quiet

just the thing that makes the most noise is the cpu cooler

[harsh dove]

Lol yeah

[brazen sparrow]

Does anyone know how many gf is the cherry mx blacks?

[austere creek]

80gf

bottom out ofc

[brazen sparrow]

When you label your switches does it mean the bottom out?

[austere creek]

we can only specify bottom out force

as you freely set the actuation point

so the force required to actuate the switch is different depending on where the actuation point is set

[brazen sparrow]

ah

[tawdry tree]

I think he meant as in bottom out or starting force.

[brazen sparrow]

Bottom out yea

Comparing switches my Browns are the same force to bottom out as Lekkars 60’s

Thinking lighter might be nicer ngl.

[austere creek]

and i specified the black bottom out and answered their question that ours are bottom out only

we dont have any actuation force

[tawdry tree]

Of course. Actuation and starting force are different though and starting force is listed for the L45 and L60 switches I’m pretty sure.

[austere creek]

that is correct

idk if cherry lists starting force

[tawdry tree]

I would assume they do as it’s as important as the bottom out force required.

[raw nacelle]

anyone have a recommendation for a keyboard wall display mount?

[elfin garnet]

how did u clean them tho? Im about to lube mine and was thinking I could just lube over it

[quiet bay]

Yes you can just lube over them

[brazen sparrow]

Don’t try to clean them you’ll just cry yourself to sleep

[nova scarab]

Where can I find black blank keycaps which look similar to the enjoyPBT blank keycaps?

[elfin garnet]

Ye thats what I imagined, no way im doing that

[quaint mirage]

which one better the silicone pad or the foam pad

[latent fern]

i feel like poron is better cuz silicone can dampen sounds too much sometimes

[fluid ravine]

Personal preference

[tawdry tree]

Neither. They’re different.

[fluid ravine]

Fyi, if you're using or going to do gummy mount/friction mount, you can't use the silicone as its too firm for the oring to compress.

But other than that it's just personal preference as they're both different material pads.

[nova scarab]

is it possible to have 1000hz polling rate on the 60he with a cablemod straight braided cable? I know that its disabled when the cable is coiled

[stray tiger]

If it's made well and no longer than 6'/2m you should be fine

[polar girder]

i've been rocking no plate foam but I think i want to try it with the foam

[latent fern]

can you only gummy o-ring mount with plate mounted stabs?

[latent fern]

ive also been rocking no foam too

[polar girder]

yeah

i've o-ring mounted the stock plate mount and stock screw ins in the redux

[latent fern]

i bought the module so i only got pcb mounted stabs

[polar girder]

yeah i've been able to o-ring mount my module so far with no plate foam

medium ring 40a

I might have to use the small to put the foam back in tho. not sure.

[latent fern]

do you mean the gummy o-ring mount like a bakeneko or the small tiny o-ring mount?

i was talking about the bakeneko style

[polar girder]

same

that ring has different sizes and hardnesses

I have a medium and small 40a. I'm using the medium size rn in my no plate foam module with stock stabs in a redux

[latent fern]

can you get those o-rings on amazon?

[polar girder]

idk

i think i got mine from mech.land

[mild geyser]

anyone else notice that even if you lube the springs, not too long after, the switches start to have bad spring ping again?

my jades sounded great out of the box and now sound horrible

same story for raptors with lekker stems, sounded great, i even bag lubbed springs and now they sound aweful

[fluid ravine]

Damn wish i could help rn but im abt to go to sleep
Pretty sure the US modders here are dead as well, well some of them should be on in a few hours, someone will help you find your answer sooner or later. Anyways ima knock out. I will try to help you tmr if I can if you still haven't got any help. Cya

[quiet bay]

The lube has broken in and doesnt sound as muted when you initially lube it

[fluid ravine]

oop pochi still alive

hey wassup

[quiet bay]

I ate coffee candy and now im suffering the consequences

[mild geyser]

lubed regular switches for years, i havent had spring ping reappear 2 weeks later

[quiet bay]

oh spring ping?? Yikes

[mild geyser]

happened to the raptors, bag lubed those

left the jades as is and now they sound pingy a few weeks later too

[quiet bay]

If ur using a steel plate it can probably make the spring ping stand out more

[mild geyser]

cf,

was not there on initial use for the jades and wasnt there after a bag lube of the raptor springs

[quiet bay]

welp never had experience with cf

[mild geyser]

again, used cf plates for almost all by builds prior to the wooting, no ping issues

[quiet bay]

I lubed my springs a while ago and they’ve never been pingy (although its lekkers not jades)

[mild geyser]

hmmm

i wounder what is happening

for the raptors it makes sense, with the holes the lube just leaks out eventually, i removed those and the bottom of all the switches was covered in a thin coat of lube and so was the pcb

[quiet bay]

Maybe the butt ton of foam is helping

Idk but im assuming if ur using cf it’s probably a clacky build and spring ping will definitely stand out more

Kinda weird how the ping reappears though

shortly after

[median spade]

Gateron springs suck nothing new here

Crunch and ping city even on the Mx side forever

[mild geyser]

you know what im probably used to tx springs

[median spade]

Can donut dip with 205g0 is how I solved it

[mild geyser]

did not even consider that

[median spade]

For my jades

[mild geyser]

did you do both sides or just bottom side?

[median spade]

Just bottom

[mild geyser]

kk ill give that a go, cheers

[median spade]

Np

[quiet bay]

I probably should’ve mentioned that because I did that myself 🗿

[weak tendon]

btw are these keycaps real gmk or a scam https://www.amazon.com.au/MOLGRIA-Keycaps-Keyboard-Sublimation-Japanese/dp/B09MK4N4FN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=349TL9FBGJ0LU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yOG8mQ9c7ugLd_tyAKiQKxOGolzJBhUBjf1qXB9K3oKC_hc24kuL9QRJ7W4V3KtiEzvMtiaJrQz710VCDcxuEGt8-mBLVAellvuBx1QUsiWM6VzLvpQhkp11CfdEcyDPq7QKwr56aOQ5hkQZRVHN89Xzqv9AHuUuQX39Sdb8FAR6f8DswIhQUGbDpTYqV9oB3kYZwVvFurDk_Ufjs05TAqX0f3WLDuibpW2bmRwgxHNQxoYk_sr805SakIZJKaQZLSgngGam3T3TNcePotzenmcpikVN-dzG_ghRoKEvUNM.oft0wm60A-6BtsGyFVFCXc4f82etn-Ql-BHgO3z24RI&dib_tag=se&keywords=gmk%2Bmizu&qid=1711346134&sprefix=gmk%2Bmizu%2Caps%2C282&sr=8-1&th=1

[uncut musk]

not real gmk

[stray tiger]

Not GMK

[stable kindle]

any switches come out that are better than the jades yet?

[devout torrent]

nah

KS-20u is more available now but I wouldnt say those are better

and everglide has wooting compatible switches but they seem to sound even higher pitched than the lekkers so kinda seems bad

and not factory lubed at all

[undone frigate]

Just received my 60HE+ Module with Gateron Jades and i would like to say that the stock stabs are absolutely perfect

there is no wobble even if i press on one end of the spacebar. They are Buttery smooth so in my case there is no need to get long pole stabs

[tawdry tree]

With stock keycaps there is no need for long poles with Jades. Only with some 3rd party keycaps that are very loose.

[undone frigate]

i'm currently using Akko Cherry Profile Doubleshot PBT Keycaps.

i'm guessing that is the reason why i don't have any such issues

These are really tight and have really minimal wobbling. Almost non existent.

[median spade]

Yeah it really just comes down to keycap tolerances and so forth

[stray tiger]

Most people really do not need them but that placebo affect can be a killer

[median spade]

Surpringsly even with all the long pole mx switches I have on hand, and use only time it was ever a "issue" was with Creams. And even then it worked fine but the stabs could be off centered easily

But they would stay connected still

[undone frigate]

Luckily they didn't give me any problems . i was ready to buy the Gateron Silver Stabs in case they where an issue.

[polar girder]

Yeah there’s a bit too much stab anxiety in this channel and at large I think lol

[wide kraken]

i mashed my enter key in anger once and that was the only time i noticed it on my jades and MT3 caps 😄

[stray tiger]

Thats the only time most people would notice so I advise to byu a punching bag instead of using the keyboard

[wide kraken]

solid plan

[harsh dove]

That and a lot of people think the stock stabs suck for some reason , when all it takes is proper lubing and tuning and patience

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m very impressed by my stock stabs

Just light lube and grease and they’re awesome

[wide kraken]

honestly i really like how both the 2HE plate stabs and the 60HE module stabs sound stock, never even tuned em apart from making the spacebar quieter

[latent fern]

what are the everglide HE switches called?

[devout torrent]

tbh I have no idea what the name is in English

it translates really weird

[latent fern]

how’d you hear about it?

[devout torrent]

https://www.ud-finds.shop/items/84281776

some Japanese peripheral people on twitter

[latent fern]

ohhhhhhhh

those look really cool

[devout torrent]

marere_e

I have some on the way

[wide kraken]

google translates it as "glue" which is.. interesting lol

[latent fern]

HAHAHA

everglide glue he switches

[devout torrent]

yeah some other placees translate it to like pancakes or something

I forget

was some kinda breakfast food LOL

but even the supplier I bought from didnt know

I just sent them pics

everglide will let you order direct too but they want min 500 pcs

[wide kraken]

"mochigome" is the name which is basically sticky rice

good job google

[austere creek]

so glue

[near loom]

do the gateron magnetic jades tint the rgb on the board

[latent fern]

i got 70 jades for 44$ on aliexpress

alliexpress is having a sale rn

[near loom]

how much was shipping and do you mind sending me the link

[latent fern]

and i used code AEUS05 since it in the US

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $23.74 51％ Off | Gateron Magnetic Jade Switch Magic Jade Switch Linear for Magnetic mechanical keyboard HIFI Pre Lubed 30g POM PC PA66 Hall
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mODRlE6

[near loom]

thanks gonna switch from the raptor he swtiches, I love the way they sound but i guess the magnets are too strong

[latent fern]

i was gonna get the raptors too and stem/spring swap with the leakers but apparently the stems don’t always fit

i like the clack of the jades more

however i know the travel distance of the jades can impact the functionality

and the stabilizer issue also

[near loom]

are these the same magnetic jades that wooting are gonna sell on their site with the lauch of the 80 he

[pastel vigil]

what issues has the magnet given you? you can also swap the stem with the lekker stem.

[latent fern]

the long pole of the jades didn’t effect the stabilizer for you?

[median fog]

anyone that know where to look, find a IDOBAO ID80 V3 PCB ISO

[near loom]

wooting specifically said they are not gonna sell the raptor he switches because the magnet is too strong on them which messes with the sensitivity of the hall effect

[spiral anvil]

You can delube that fixes the issue for me

Stem swap has no had no issues for me after that

[near loom]

also i hate how they tint my rgb red

[latent fern]

removing lube from the switch helped with the tight fit?

[spiral anvil]

Yea

The tolerances were so tight that you could only have the slightest bit of lube otherwise it would get all sticky feeling

[latent fern]

ohhh i see

interesting

[spiral anvil]

After that I had no problems

[latent fern]

if i ever decide to do the raptor x lekker i will definitely take that into consideration

[pastel vigil]

Was it an issue with the factory pre-lube or just if you do your own lube?

[spiral anvil]

Factory pre-lube

I think if you do the OG lekkers plus raptors it won't have that problem

But the newer lekkers are lubed enough where it can be a problem

Just try before hand

If its stiff you're probably going to have to delube it

Just removing the stem lube was enough for me

[pastel vigil]

Aight ty for the info

Am gonna be doing the swap soon

[latent fern]

what’s the bottom out force on the jades? it only states the initial force

[pastel vigil]

50

[latent fern]

oh okay thank you

i guess i gotta spring swap them with the L60

[stray tiger]

I'm about half way through a stem swap project and so far no issues even with lube. I say give it a shot and see

[latent fern]

lekker stem in raptor housing?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[latent fern]

c9 tangerines or raptor frankenswitch? haha

[stray tiger]

too orange for raptor 🙂

[fluid ravine]

Hi pops

[pastel vigil]

These switches be looking tasty

[stray tiger]

Going to do another stream tonight and build a mystery board

[fluid ravine]

:0 oki! What time you thinking

[latent fern]

if the Lekker 2.0 is made with UHMWPE like c9 tangies i think they could be the smoothest switch ever

[pastel vigil]

Lekker V2s just have less wobble.

But they're working on Lekker Pros or something similar so for that one maybe.

[stray tiger]

After dinner, probably not until 7ish MST give or take.

[fluid ravine]

So 8 for me alr

[fluid ravine]

Thatd be nice

[latent fern]

is the wootility beta for jade compatiblity still in beta?

[spiral anvil]

I can't believe I'm saying this

But I actually like the default case without foams more than my wood case

kekw~4

[pastel vigil]

Sound wise?

[fluid ravine]

Thoughts on the QK65 v2?

[fluid ravine]

i feel you there sometimes

[spiral anvil]

Yea

[pastel vigil]

I haven't tried a wood case yet, but the default case is my favorite so far

compared to alumaze, tofu and freebird

[stray tiger]

No thoughts yet. They have no software available for it and arent providing any information. None of that makes me feel good

[fluid ravine]

[latent fern]

i have the QK75N and it’s definitely the best mech i’ve built

[stray tiger]

Their normal boards are really good but jumping into the HE arena without software (or a released software), thats install only (not web based), that doesnt support per key RGB, analog controls, multi-polarity switches, etc etc manes you give up all the things that make a normal mech board great and then you don't even get a good HE experience.

[harsh dove]

Just went live [GB]

[stray tiger]

I have a QK60 and it's one of my fav boards

[harsh dove]

https://wiredinstore.com/collections/protagonist-collection

[devout torrent]

the protagnist looks so good

[latent fern]

i knew QK was making a Neo HE but idk they were making other HE boards whoa

[devout torrent]

qk65v2 classic seems good let's just see how the HE implementation is

software wont even drop until after they start shipping

concerning ngl

[pastel vigil]

$150 cables oof

[stray tiger]

Super concerning

[stray tiger]

I think the Neo HE information was incorrect and its really the qk65v2 classic

[harsh dove]

Not having software worked out is a NO from me

[devout torrent]

Same here

[stray tiger]

Also the switches they are using for it are a closed bottom raptor, so a little reduced travel (like 3.8mm) but exact same switch otherwise. So I dont expect great tolerances.

[devout torrent]

No details or testing before GB ends is a red flag for n even if board seems good

[devout torrent]

Ahh I heard rumors of it being jades but raptor makes more sense

With the travel and what not

[stray tiger]

Raptor HE
Linear, hall effect
Pre-Travel: Analog
Total Travel: 4.0mm
Operating Force: 42g
Bottom-out Force: 52g
Spring: 16.0mm, NAS wire Single-Stage spring
Stem: POM
Top Housing: PA12 NYLON
Bottom Housing: PA66 NYLON
Factory Lubed
Mounting pins: 2pins

Neo Lavender
Switch Type: Linear, Hall Effect
Operating Force: 42.0g
Bottom-out Force: 52.0g
Spring Length: 16.0mm
Spring Type: Single-stage
Travel: Analog
Full Travel: 3.8mm
Top Housing: Nylon PA12
Bottom Housing: Nylon PA66
Stem Material: POM
Mounting Pins: 2-pin
Lubrication: Factory-lubed

Copy and pasted from the infor of both switch pages. No modifications made. If its not the same damn switch its one hell of a coicidence

[devout torrent]

yeah the formatting alone is a sign

let alone all of it matches

[stray tiger]

Plus just looking at the switches you can see they are the same

[devout torrent]

I wonder if the pbc is also designed by whoever did the venom pcb

[spiral anvil]

This entire journey only to end up back at the default case

kekw

[devout torrent]

ngl the plastic case does sound pretty deep

and hte angle of it is really nice

[stray tiger]

It be like that sometimes

[stray tiger]

It's a reasonable assumption. I havent really looked at the PCB

[spiral anvil]

Man now my keycaps don't match

pepelaff

[fluid ravine]

indeed :D

[pastel vigil]

After all the fucking around with the 60he I decided for the 80he Im just gonna get plastic because I know it will just end up sounding the best

[harsh dove]

Highly likely, as there’s like 4-5 companies who use the exact same PCB

Can’t remember all the names as I’m not home rn

[pastel vigil]

My alumaze makes an excellent wight in the meantime

[devout torrent]

there's a bunch that use pcbs from gtech but htis pcb doesnt look like gtech

and neither does the venom

[median spade]

Venom is Chad

[median fog]

how fast does Zoom75 special edition come in stock

[median spade]

If I still had my frog tkl I would grab one

[stray tiger]

Is the board even available or is there any software for it yet?

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[spiral anvil]

I think I'm just bust out the spray paint and paint the case purple

[surreal cradle]

Hi, is this a good thing to change all of the number key and esc ?

I'm only using the wooting to play Valorant, so I only use ZQSD

[untold wigeon]

is anyone selling their spare base wooting 60he plastic case

[quiet bay]

It's your preference, do whatever you want

and you have profiles that you can switch inbetween if you aren't using it for Valorant

[surreal cradle]

True

I really can't wait, so hype tbh

[median fog]

why don't more PCBs do like multi-compatible ansi/iso etc. like Zoom75.
then many ISO users would get the nice left shift and ANSI users would get big enter easily.
probably some light issues, when flipping switch, but still worth it I guess.

[median spade]

Outside of testing with pro players in Korea right now nah

[stray tiger]

It's usually due to sensor placement struggles.

[median fog]

true for HE I guess, but without tho

guess it's just a bit trouble for most ISO users to rebind some one key that would be missing with big LShift to an Fn layer instead, but once you know it, it's almost no trouble. One of the ISO keys is always gonna be very useless/little used, always fine to make it Fn layer key.
well also keycap row-compatibility tho yeah, that's bigger issue - but this is one reason why like all keycap sets should include blank keys also, for all unique rows, something for example wooting doesn't include.

But there is no issue with sensors doing big LShift compatible with ISO, but still too much hassle I guess, also with stabilizers, keycaps, cost.

[pastel vigil]

ill sell my Alumaze lol

[untold wigeon]

Howmuch

[latent fern]

you don’t like the Alumaze

?

[pastel vigil]

Nah I prefer the plastic case

[pastel vigil]

Wait where are you located?

[untold wigeon]

United states

California

[pastel vigil]

I'll have to do a shipping estimate and let you know

[latent fern]

very based

stock wooting is the superior sound sig

[pastel vigil]

Facts.

My only dilemma is liking the feel of Jade switches but hating how they sound.

[latent fern]

we're all running around trying to have the best plate/foam/mod config when the answer was in front of us all along haha

[latent fern]

too clacky and loud?

[pastel vigil]

don't mind the loudness, but it's way too clacky.

It's ear gratingly high pitched

I can't explain it but it sounds like a bugs exoskeleton lmao

Lubing helps tone it down a bit but still not a fan.

When gaming it's not an issue because I can't really hear it but I don't enjoy it too much if am typing in silence

[latent fern]

i like this comparison haha

[pastel vigil]

if you ever watched the first mummy

it sounds like the scarabs moving around lmao

[latent fern]

https://youtu.be/GJP8XTzpOCw?si=ojcSvqaA49rCnv0L

this??

[pastel vigil]

YES

[latent fern]

your keyboard squeals like its in pain haha

[stray tiger]

Come hang out for a bit. Building a mystery keyboard tonight - https://www.twitch.tv/thethockfather

[near barn]

mine's just lying around atm, the stock 60he case right?

[versed viper]

Anything special people do with the Tofu Redux?

or just the stock case and stock padding will work well?

^ the stock redux case

[polar girder]

Could gummy o-ring mount it

Works well

Play around with diff foams

[latent fern]

i put wheel balance weights in mine

instead of a brass weight

im cheap ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[versed viper]

I bought the brass

But idk what else to do just making sure I don’t wanna open it 100 times

Do a lot of people use killamat?

[latent fern]

i got the best sound from my tofu with the stock wooting foam

as opposed to the stock tofu foam

[versed viper]

What else do you have done to yours? I’d love to talk to somebody that has the same thing going.

[civic snow]

anyone know if there is any modding or anything for 80he? like base replacements or anything recommended?

Debating if i should order 80he in 1st wave or wait for later waves to address possibly any issues

[dapper kernel]

80he

[latent fern]

i used wheel weights, and secured them in place with masking tape. i covered the entire bottom of the case with a layer of masking tape. if you watch the original tempest tape mod video by Tempest, he does this as well. I feel it reduced the ping of the alu but could just be placebo. i dont use any pcb foam. i use the pcb silicon sticker rings that are provided with the module.

[glacial wind]

it's not really like finalmouse/mice releases in general if that's what you're thinking re: 80he

waiting for later batch is unlikely to do much beyond just meaning you wait an extra month or two

[median spade]

Raw cerakote now

You going to get a clear coat cerakote?

[glacial wind]

nah planning on a titanium cerakote

[median spade]

Noice

[glacial wind]

it's kind of funny how much mice releases have scared people from buying batch 1 stuff in other categories

[brazen sparrow]

It’s with all industry’s now your the beta tester and if a product gains traction only then will they fix the issues.

Triple A games etc.

[weary tree]

Gummy oring mount , tape mod and polyfill

[latent fern]

how do you make sure your polyfill is anti-static?

[weary tree]

Tape mod

3 layers

No issues so far

[latent fern]

ohh okay i see

so just protect the pcb with tape mod

[weary tree]

Yeah

[spiral anvil]

Honestly fuck it we ball

Are there any plastic cases that work with the Wooting minus the og case?

I want a purple one to represent my team

[weary tree]

On 80?

[spiral anvil]

60

[weary tree]

Anything that fits a gh60 should do

[latent fern]

GK61?

[spiral anvil]

The usb port is always off center though

[weary tree]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[versed viper]

Can you link a video on how to do the gummy and what o rings to use?

[weary tree]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[spiral anvil]

Those only account for burger or tray mounting and sliding the pcb to the left

I'm gummy o-ringing so I guess custom or tofu acrylic is my only option I guess

[weary tree]

Well yeah most people go for more ptemium options when swapping cases

[latent fern]

what stabs do you use?

[spiral anvil]

Stock

I tried using TX but the stabs were too tight

[latent fern]

stock pcb mount or plate mount?

[spiral anvil]

Ended up going back to stock

[spiral anvil]

Plate

[latent fern]

ohhh okay

i got the module with the pcb mount

[median spade]

still the stock steel plate?

[latent fern]

idk if i can gummy o ring

[spiral anvil]

I mean tbh I don't like the sound the tofu metal makes

[spiral anvil]

PC plate

[spiral anvil]

Final result as of now

[median spade]

interesting that the tx doens't work with that

pc plate for me was the most loosey goosey of all i've used

[spiral anvil]

It fit in

But the tolerances were too tight

[median spade]

Yeah I know what you mean

[spiral anvil]

The inserts kept get stuck

It only happens on the wooting for some reason

[weary tree]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxpo5xNn8PBQx6dF9CYI-TGqHnxe0UZoq6?si=V-Yb710jhUZgNslP

Just make sure wheb u put in the usb c in 1st

Then push down the spacebar down

Just dont damage usbc

[spiral anvil]

Metal doesn't do the HE switches too well imo

[versed viper]

My dumb ass didn’t look at the orientation of the switch then I took these out

Is this correct?

[spiral anvil]

Looks good

[weary tree]

Yeah

North facing

[spiral anvil]

I ended up preferring the default case for sound

[weary tree]

Honnestly south facing is fine just affects the rgb

[spiral anvil]

[median spade]

south facing the only correct option

(doens't matter and either works)

[versed viper]

I’m glad y’all are actually helpful here

When I built my wife’s computer and I joined other discord, it was super complicated to ask people questions and everyone was an asshole and wanted to make jokes all the time

[spiral anvil]

Keyboard spaces be like that

[pastel vigil]

you casn

https://mech.land/products/graveshift-o-rings?variant=41067113185433

Small size, 30-50a

[pastel vigil]

the pc building discord is a joke

[versed viper]

i meant keyboard

[pastel vigil]

oh i dont know about those then

this is the only one i really frequent

[latent fern]

oh my god thank you for this

[spiral anvil]

I think I just spray paint the case

[latent fern]

is there anything else i need to consider when gummy o-ring mounting?

[versed viper]

Not bad

[latent fern]

looks good

[fluid ravine]

Not bad at all, now slap on some new keycaps (jk they're just as fine, but do it if you want to 👀 )

[latent fern]

whats a good softness for an o-ring?

[dapper kernel]

30-50a

[latent fern]

is there a big difference from a 30a to a 50a?

should i just go in the middle and get 40a?

[dapper kernel]

30a is relatively soft

If u can find one u can

[latent fern]

does the softness effect the sound?

[versed viper]

There coming in 😬

Cheap for now

Gonna get something nicer

[latent fern]

ive had only good experiences with cheap amazon keycaps

i just make sure its double shot pbt

[versed viper]

just want them to look nice atm dont really care about quality

https://i.gyazo.com/cf8c0b945d07029bc4a8a62f7657665e.png @latent fern

I want these

but they are in intrest check

[latent fern]

you should join the IC

[pastel vigil]

nah you're all set

[undone frigate]

Yeah i had zero issue. Almost as if the where 4mm and not 3.5mm in length.

[harsh dove]

[fluid ravine]

hollup this looks familiar-

the shape-

man its beautiful

[harsh dove]

It really is

[latent fern]

ty so much! i got the 50a

[latent fern]

this is good to hear

hopefully i dont run into any issues

[pastel vigil]

thats what i use

[undone frigate]

Yeah, I feared that I would have to get new stabs. I do have to say that for now, I'm waiting to buy a case, so I'm just using a pad to put the module on. I don't know if that might change things with a case.

[tawdry tree]

Screw in stabilizer support and possible conflicting key positions.

[versed viper]

What’s that?

Also they are dbl shot

Ohhh the interest check got ya got ya yeah I joined it

[latent fern]

IC = interest check haha

[latent fern]

those should be good

[latent fern]

i dont think it should change

[undone frigate]

Good to hear, since as of now, stock stabilizers are awesome with Jades.

[latent fern]

i cant believe youre using it without a case

[undone frigate]

Had to make a staggered purchase; otherwise, if my purchase exceeded 150 euros, I would have had to pay 250 euros in tax.

So, I first bought the module, then I'll buy the Alumaze case. Too bad because the 25% discount on the case was great, but it would cost me an extra 250. Bummer.

[untold wigeon]

does anyone know a good wrist rest for the 60he?

tofu case if that matters

[latent fern]

i know wooting at a silicon one

[untold wigeon]

yeah not looking for a silicon one, if its silicon its going to collect dust/hair etc and prolly needs to be cleaned daily

yeah lol

[high nymph]

Coping. That guy must be using it on a farm....

[untold wigeon]

doubt

its silicon

[tawdry tree]

silicone is a dust magnet but it is easy to clean as well.

[weary tree]

My wrist reat getting shiny with use

[spiral anvil]

Wish me luck I'm spray paint my Wooting case purple

[spiral canyon]

[spiral anvil]

If I fuck up

[latent fern]

i wish you luck

are you gonna sand it and primer it?

[spiral anvil]

Yep

[patent fossil]

Blizzard … 70€ for one key. They are trolling

[spiral canyon]

Nah, those are normal usual artisan keycap prices

[sacred elm]

https://x.alibaba.com/Aw3m4U?ck=pdp

guys is this seller legit? i never use alibaba

[little glen]

Min order size 4000 pieces

[sacred elm]

hmm

[shell crown]

It's legit yeah

[sacred elm]

Aight thanks

[spiral canyon]

Alibaba is for bulk orders, use Aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006362746758.html

[median fog]

pretty sure tho you can at least have big left shift for iso without issues, but they decided the hassle of it all is not worth it, and i agree.
i'm saying more in general and for non-HE why stuff like these are not more common, also this way pushing other stuff to be compatible with this.

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[copper pulsar]

😨

[untold wigeon]

wootings?

[weary tree]

ye

[untold wigeon]

yeah silicone works that way

idk which one to buy

[tawdry tree]

While maintaining screw in stabilizer support? I don’t think so but IIRC; the 60HE AVR ANSI/ISO shared the exact same PCB just differently populated. This means that it could very well be possible to have an ANSI/ISO PCBA in one.

[median spade]

Let’s get 7u bottom row and split right shift before adding that

[median fog]

in the end it's not needed for ISO, since you can rebind Shift and Ctrl keys for ESDF position to keys right to them in some games.

[sharp yew]

shine jumpscare

[median fog]

cancelled 80HE order, because of many things like no Tactile and too big and too expensive overall, and JIS right shift too far away.
better to wait for some multi-compatible Zoom75

at least Wooting should have made JIS PCB long RShift compatible

[elfin garnet]

Yup. Stock spacebar cap and pbtfans cap that I have fit perfect. My GMK spacebar cap is hella loose.

considering buying a spacebar kit from a pbtfans set that looks like my GMK set so I can swap because its so shit

[obsidian dagger]

yikes

[agile grove]

but JIS has a short rshift, why would they change the layout for no reason???

[median fog]

because it's far away from comfortable use

[agile grove]

also its not physically possible to add two different shift types there, it would mess with stabs and I dont think the switch locations would fit on the PCB

[elfin garnet]

Genuin question. What are you using right shift for? It's by far my least used key on a keyboard

[agile grove]

thats what you think, but people that regularly use JIS probably use it just fine. if you're switching from a different layout to JIS and you dont require JIS, then you arent particularly the demographic wooting is looking to sell JIS to.

[median fog]

because probably don't use right shift like that, but many non-JIS users do, that's point, and also for JIS users as well that maybe want longer shift

i'm saying for like ISO people that want big RShift of JIS, still can't really get this JIS because RShift is even more problematic than even current ISO LShift
without wooting doing ISO/ANSI multi-compatibility, this JIS would have been good alternative, if RShift

[agile grove]

too bad

[median fog]

if you learn home row typing and often with RShift usage, you can't really go back
it's all about like most comfortable typing, also moving fingers as little as possible (from like F - J row)

is there some 75% orthogonal kbs, but like with exploded F row at least, kind of not really orthogonal F row. and at least space over Right arrow and beside Left arrow.

but it's always so annoying with them tho, have to take them all around, with other devices, since it's too annoying to change between different kbs.

[median spade]

Tbh I'm home row and never use right shift like ever

Well I have it mapped to function now that's how little I use it

I know it's suposed to be keys left of YHN are right shift and the other side is left, but just ended up using only left shift myself

[agile grove]

I barely use shift in general

[marsh saffron]

i never use right shift at all

i usually rebind it to something else

[stray tiger]

Same, r-shift never gets shined on my keyboards

[obsidian dagger]

mine gets dusty

[stray tiger]

@blazing torrent @harsh dove rebuilt that board last night using the cannonkeys stock stabs that came with the board and everything worked breat BUT the stabs sound like straight dogshit

[median fog]

someone has like ergonomic 75% mostly exploded kb, with nicely placed modifiers etc. like as if kb would be made today, how it would be made, without influence of typewriters etc.
not bastardizing it, and also not split

[harsh dove]

Assuming you left the stabs stock and didn’t lube them right?

[stray tiger]

Nope I lubed them. They just sound like ass. They are low quality clip-ins. I didnt clip the legs or anything since the board will be a giveaway, but yeah the stabs sound bad

Whoever wins it, if they replace the stabs will have a solid sounding board though

[median fog]

I guess we're just mostly stuck in typewriting kb layout forever.

[polar girder]

I wish the Protagonist was 60HE compatible

Big sad

[median fog]

need a kb like Cloud Nine ErgoTKL but hotswappable, ISO and low profile switch if possible

Keychron not including like Row 3 Del keycap with their kbs/keycaps? really lame

in the end ergonomic kbs area really not needed at all, even if you use your kb a lot

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, damn fair enough

[harsh dove]

I wanted that too haha but tbh the 60HE doesn’t need to be in a board like that

Punched my order in this morning

[peak igloo]

500$ for a keyboard is crazy

[harsh dove]

Not really

There’s boards that cost quite a bit more

[peak igloo]

That doesn’t mean 500$ isn’t a lot lol

[harsh dove]

It is lol

[median fog]

so when does like Zoom75 get in stock typically, how long does it take to get it on average, or kbs similar

[polar girder]

Nice dude that’s exciting

[devout torrent]

if only I could stick my wooting in it

I dont wanna buy any non HE boards lately lol

[median spade]

they just ran the gb or whatever for it so the stock was just leftover stuff befoore

Idk if they're doing full rotating stock always or it's just what vendors have had for extras and such

[harsh dove]

Me n Tirade share this same sentiment but also couldn’t pass up on this board, gotta support Randall

[devout torrent]

yeah it's an excellent board

I do plan to break my HE only for a kei v2 extra if I can with the EC pcb lol

[stray tiger]

I plan to pick up the protag and a January extra when they pop up but that might be my last non-HE buy.

[polar girder]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-fat-bastard-austin-powers-gif-18112875

[weary tree]

its never the last

[fair idol]

Anyone know what keycaps these are by chance?

[obsidian dagger]

pbtfans

what specifically

hmm

[quiet bay]

https://divinikey.com/products/kbdfans-clear-aurora-keycaps-uv-polycarbonate

[fair idol]

perfect! Thank you @quiet bay

[obsidian dagger]

oh yeah it couldnt be pbtfans since it is transparent

kbdfans design tho

[devout torrent]

diffuser on these is good

[stray tiger]

Oh nice, yeah that looks great. I just turn off my RGB usually

[devout torrent]

I usually don’t use RGb but I like this effect lol

first downside is magnets dont seem great

keys that I have set to 4.0 wont actuate (like windows)

[stray tiger]

Which firmware are you using?

[devout torrent]

2.7.3-beta.0

3.6 or higher seems to work

[pastel vigil]

oh that looks really nice

[devout torrent]

and the room is lit by sunlight rn lol

[stray tiger]

I think there is a newer version, I'd check to be sure.

[pastel vigil]

possibly a new franken switch candidate for RGB fans

[devout torrent]

thanks, there totally is a new beta

updated to beta4

[stray tiger]

beta4 has the newest flux detection update I believe

[devout torrent]

can confirm that does make it work at 4.0

my gain might be a bit high so turn this down lol

I alternate with a jade at first

then typing test of new switch

stock from factory (unlubed)

[median spade]

Freebird gang

[devout torrent]

thin bezels + low angle= perfection

and low front 🙂

[pastel vigil]

you also use freebird?

I love my navy 60

[polar girder]

Bruh

[devout torrent]

cat lmao

I cleaned tfoutt ofit

als o dnt buythese switchese

I am not making typos itts going this shit

doing*

trying higher actutatiton pointstttt and noi luck yetee

LEDs are eoff

0.5mm right now

[pastel vigil]

thats wild

[devout torrent]

yeah dissapointing

I cant even t ype properly oon t hem right t now

😦

[stray tiger]

Have you unplugged and replugged since the firmware update?

[devout torrent]

multiple t imes

figured that would force a recalibrate

[stray tiger]

Do you want to troubleshoot it a bit more? I can send you some tools

[devout torrent]

yeah that would be greatt

[somber roost]

Idk if this is the culprit but have you checked for any EMI near the board

[devout torrent]

nothing has changed but sswappingnn tto the neww everrglides

turned off LEDs + turned off tachyon mode and it seems to be a tad better

reduced rapid trigger slightly as well

I can pretty much type now

[somber roost]

Oh interesting this didn’t seem like a power issue

[devout torrent]

yeah not sure what is going on

but I can type at least

jades are def still the best option

[somber roost]

Good you can type now yep

[devout torrent]

issue stll h appening so nvm lol

just less

[somber roost]

Maybe make a post in #1019755933959733258

[devout torrent]

yeah leaving the house in a bit but when I get back I will

[split pecan]

ah damn

thats unlucky

[stray tiger]

Don't make a post. Those guys are swamped already and trying to troubleshoot a 3rd party switch would be a waste of time. Just ping me when you get back and I'll send you some links to test the switch input response.

[devout torrent]

If you can shoot me the links and I'll take a look, I'm still here for now

[stray tiger]

ok standby

[median spade]

Yee

[pastel vigil]

Based all black setup

no rgb goated

[tawny hearth]

Hey guys and gals this is my 1st hot swappable keyboard (wooting 80) that i have purchased and so i am new into the whole modding scheme. What are your opinions about replacing some keycaps with resin detailed ones. I personally bought the keyboard for gaming purposes only. Well such keycap affect the performance?

[harsh dove]

Needs personality

Otherwise it’s every other 20+ yr olds ikea setup

But my opinion is just that, my opinion

[median spade]

Yee I already had decked out desk before

I like it clean and simple now

[spiral anvil]

I ran out of primer

😭

On the last second coat too

[harsh dove]

I feel that, I don’t mean add bunch of RGB or clutter your desk with crap

[spiral anvil]

Got to wait another day now since that coat won't be fully dry

[median spade]

These are all the setups I’ve had

[sweet oak]

All id personally use also

[median spade]

Well have had more but the others were just clutter

[sweet oak]

All real clean

[median spade]

But now I went simple life with hot swap monitor mount

[harsh dove]

Last one is the best one

Still need dual monitor tho

[median spade]

It was good but I don’t need a desk that big anymore

[harsh dove]

Yeah hotswap is nice

[spiral anvil]

Bleh back to home depot I go

[median spade]

And I went single monitor as realized dual monitor just made me look at YouTube, discord, etc too much instead of being absorbed in game I’m playing

[harsh dove]

Yeah it can be distracting depending on who you are/what you’re doing

I’ve heard that same sentiment , which I agree with

[median spade]

Oled for when I play single player like Horizon Forbidden west rn

[harsh dove]

Based

I’ve had too many setups and I don’t like any of them haha

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

Tryna make a grown man setup

[median spade]

This been my favorite but just because I did a wood desk again

It doesn’t look like it but it’s a stained butcher block

[harsh dove]

Ah okay very nice

[median spade]

Went too dark on stain but it is what it is

[sweet oak]

Wood desks are always nice

[harsh dove]

Yeah it almost looks like veneer

[median spade]

Oh that’s because of the poly top coat

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

Makes sense

[median spade]

Chose water based this time so it looks like that

[harsh dove]

Gotcha

[median spade]

Oil more wood like but last time it yellowed a bit from UV and I hated that

[harsh dove]

Right yeah from direct sunlight

[median spade]

Mmhmm

[harsh dove]

That’d bother me too

[sweet oak]

Yeah

[median spade]

Looked very nice but I was like meh when it happened and that’s when I got the Karly which was the favorite one

[harsh dove]

Honestly you have the Optimum Tech setup basically

[sweet oak]

Yeah i also noticed that

[median spade]

P much now that you say that lol

[harsh dove]

Esp with the hotswap mount

[median spade]

Yeah I used to just swap the whole arm portion and someone told@me about it

Can’t believe I did it for so long

[pastel vigil]

Where do you store the monitor when not using it?

Im too lazy for that lmao

[harsh dove]

I have mine in my spare closet

[median spade]

My closet

[pastel vigil]

Yall got big closets lmao

[polar girder]

lol I just have a big clunky dual monitor stand with the 27” hanging off the back

Only use the 24” lol

I don’t really play single player games tho

And I’m not as obsessed with minimalism lol

Don’t mind the mess. Just a candid picture but yeah. Monitor in the back just unplugged lol

[fluid ravine]

I swear its looks like you're playing in a class room xd

[polar girder]

lol that's that vintage asbestos tile old school class room vibe

[fluid ravine]

fr

its interesting

that foot rest xd

i fk with it

[polar girder]

foot rest is what's up

just a hand me down from the wife lol. she has a nice one

[fluid ravine]

oh man

[polar girder]

she actually works from home. i just play video games

[median spade]

I like how the desk matches the floor and walls

then you hae a modern pc on the left that throws it all off

[harsh dove]

What I wouldn't do to have this set

[sweet oak]

Its like a strawberry shortcake

[pastel vigil]

I thought of brownies lol

[sweet oak]

I can see that too

[pastel vigil]

dark keys are the outside and lighter keys are the fudgy inside

[stray tiger]

Novel keys has those in PBT. Search for Cherry Cooper Keycaps

It's one of my fav PBT sets

[harsh dove]

Love you dude, thanks

[harsh dove]

lmao maybe not, they're also sold out everywhere

[polar girder]

lol yeah it's in pieces cuz i've been swapping out parts

[lusty cove]

Is it possible to get a different color aluminum trip for wooting 60he+ Alumaze60?

[pastel vigil]

you mean the yellow accent?

[lusty cove]

yep

[pastel vigil]

Nothing confirmed iirc but they are looking at providing other color accents

[lusty cove]

thx for the info

[obsidian dagger]

digested lekker edition

[sage flicker]

can you tape mod the Lekker switches? or HE switches in general?

for silence

[crimson sky]

tape mod tends to make boards louder

[sage flicker]

ah just read a sticky, we're getting next generation Lekkers called Lekker Pros (TM). Fun

[strange quarry]

i have the two HE with jades, how compatible are tx AP's, long pole version or nah

[weary tree]

i heard they can have tolerance issues

[strange quarry]

i've had issues with almost every stabilizer i've tried so far tbh, i'm mostly just wondering if i'd need long pole or standard for my setup

[undone frigate]

Is this beta flrmware from December 2023 better for jades than the latest stable release?

[old swallow]

Oh damn, thats pretty sick. Really dig the "coroded" green accents

[stray tiger]

Use the latest beta 2.7.3 v4 I think

[undone frigate]

I just received the module a couple of days ago and thought that the most recent patch would be more up-to-date. Thank you for the reply.

[remote dust]

Anyone know third party coiled cables I can get that are cheaper

Also when i touch the side of my tofu redux case I feel like its electrocuting me

[harsh dove]

Yeah the only problem is finding the set lol

GMK and NK versions sold out everywhere

Unless I wanna spend $700 on eBay

[remote cairn]

seems reasonable

[quiet bay]

wtf

[remote cairn]

yeah defo reasonable

[harsh dove]

There’s the NK PBT set as well but also sold out everywhere and can only find this Used set on eBay lol

[remote cairn]

It's not like I'm not ready to even pay $100 for a keycap set but $700 seems fine

[quiet bay]

700 on keycaps when you can buy 3 80hes 😔 ..

[red axle]

Any tips?

[brazen sparrow]

Buy a new keycap and stabilizer

That is not coming out

[red axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-light-computer-gif-21223179

[tawdry ore]

Anyone try cerakeys?

[onyx tundra]

is this true about the cable?

[marsh saffron]

Get a hot needle poke it into the stuck part and let it cool

Use a lighter or something to heat the needle

Hopefully it has enough strength to pull it out otherwise new keycap lol

[tawdry ore]

No, the default cable does the same

[marsh saffron]

This is only about cheap third party coiled cables

A lot of third party ones don't work with tachyon mode

[onyx tundra]

yeah that was more what i wanted to know, just wanted a white coiled cable unfortunately wooting does not sell any

[marsh saffron]

I think they were releasing more colors soon™

[red axle]

Ill let you know( this is just for suspense)

[marsh saffron]

Here's hoping

I've had to do basically that after shearing bolt heads off

Figured it'd possibly work for this

[red axle]

try n1 didnt work very well but i think i can melt it into something i can take off

[quiet bay]

//

[red axle]

not working

[quiet bay]

I wonder if using a hot glue stick would work

[red axle]

i do not have it, but i think its too small anyways

[wide kraken]

basically need to make sure the coil isn't too long so the total length isn't over the recommended 3m. most of the ones i've seen have big ol coils that account for almost 2m of wire alone

[stray tiger]

Just take the stem of an extra switch and a drop of super glue and when it dries just pull it out

Be careful not to get glue in the area that isnt black

[hazy citrus]

got this cool cable in today

[surreal cradle]

Guys

Is this ok on the wooting ?

[late pasture]

hey do we know the rated power draw of the wooting stock cable and the wooting coiled cable?

in wattage

[wide kraken]

it's not really the cable wattage that matters (it's not drawing anywhere close to max wattage of any USB power protocol)

[marsh saffron]

If you buy a high quality cable that is within the length specs it likely will work fine

[late pasture]

im not talking for the wooting speficially im just trying to gather some information

im just after the stock cable wattage

[marsh saffron]

That I don't know

[late pasture]

like could it charge a laptop if you were in a pinch

[wide kraken]

USB-C spec is up to 60 W on a standard cable without e-marker

[cedar gate]

Anyone mind helping me out the mods I was planning to do was swich the keycap for pre lubed jades plate swap to PC plate PBTFANS keycaps burger mount and tofu 60 redux no tape mod cuz I have foam and I'm debating whether to leave the stabs alone or regrease them

Is there anything wrong with that

And could I make it better in any way

[marsh saffron]

Sounds good

[wide kraken]

tape mod and foams do different things to the sound, so try each/both and see what you like

[marsh saffron]

Id also put the silicone from the PC plate in-between pcb and plate instead of regular plate foam

I find it sounds a lot better

[wide kraken]

yeah, the PC plate rattles for me with the poron plate foam. dunno if the foam's just too thin and not making enough contact or what

[cedar gate]

Does the pc plate at wooting come with silicone

[wide kraken]

if you buy the module

you're upgrading from original 60HE, right?

[cedar gate]

The 60he+ I bought the keyboard not the module

[wide kraken]

ah

[cedar gate]

Not ready to build my own keyboard lol

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[cedar gate]

But any other mods I should make?

[marsh saffron]

None that I could think of

[cedar gate]

And should I leave the stabs alone regrease them or swap them

[stray tiger]

If your plate is rattling please check all of the plate screws to ensure they are tight.

[stray tiger]

Wait until you get it and see how they sound

[marsh saffron]

Oh? Mine didn't do that with the foam

[cedar gate]

THAT USERNAME

[wide kraken]

ye i did. it wasn't like a hard plastic on pcb rattling but the vibration/resonance of the pc plate
(I since switched to silicone and like that better)

[cedar gate]

THE PFP TOO

Also one more thing

I'm swapping to pbtfans for just cherry profile but is oem really that bad

Like is it worth swaping for

[marsh saffron]

If oem is what wootings keycaps uses no it's quite nice

[median spade]

as someone with 3 cables that all support tons of wattage, yes essentially

someone in here explained it's the how the chips inside the usb c handle voltage and such

[marsh saffron]

I don't mind either, if you already have cherry keycaps you like I wouldn't get new ones just because of OEM profile

[cedar gate]

Maybe I'll skip that then

[median spade]

@onyx tundra #🔧│keyboard_modding message

read that if you want more info

[wide kraken]

oem and cherry are preeeetty close so i wouldn't switch just for that
unless there's just a set you like the look of better

[median spade]

I'll be the devils advocate

I hate OEM and would gladly switch to cherry

Especially when you get used to GMK and how much lower it sits than other stuff

[cedar gate]

I LOVE THE CROSSHAIR ADD ON

but they will never restock

[wide kraken]

feel like i've seen a ton of clones of that, so

that's an option

[cedar gate]

Fr are they as good

[median spade]

pbtfans?

or are you talking about something else

[cedar gate]

Yes

Pbtfans

[median spade]

Yeah they're decent

[cedar gate]

They look awesome

[wide kraken]

clone quality is always a roll of the dice so

[median spade]

got same one but with black connectors it really nice

[cedar gate]

Nice setup

Is it custom

[median spade]

it's just my 60he in a freebird60 with gmk wob

so custom in that it's modified but not custom

[cedar gate]

I knew the keys were abs lol

[median spade]

yee they got tons of shine

been using these since 2020

[hazy citrus]

yeah its a cool cable, feels like a guitar cable

[cedar gate]

Honestly i prefer pbt but abs is cool 2

BTW should I lube the jades

[median spade]

if you're up for it yeah

they don't need it tho imo

and mine are hand lubed

[cedar gate]

Is it worth it

Like can you notice

[median spade]

I did top housing so yes

as it solved the he sound all he switches have rn

[wide kraken]

i hand lubed a whole Two HE worth of jades and felt it was worth it

[median spade]

full size

who hurt you!!

[cedar gate]

I thought top housing was pre lubed and the water system removes extra lube

[median spade]

side rails on the stem, and bottom housing have lube from factory

[cedar gate]

Ig he needed a numpad for excel

[marsh saffron]

I need to finish lubing my brothers 60he

[cedar gate]

Oh I thought you only need to lube the springs

[marsh saffron]

I've done half and put the rest off for months now

[marsh saffron]

I lube every piece of the switch

Top and bottom housing, stem and spring

[median spade]

I will say

That is one thing, because it's Gateron so what's new, that needs to be done imo

if you don't lube anything else you should do the springs

Gateron springs are so terrible hate them with a passion

[cedar gate]

Well if your on a budget should you spend 40 bucks for krytox 205g0 and tools to open switches or just live with the pre lube

[median spade]

where you at that 205g0 is 40 bucks

[cedar gate]

I mean I'm MUCH more concerned about performance than sound

[cedar gate]

205g0 is 20 tools are 15

[marsh saffron]

40$??? I got an entire lube kit with 205g0 and tools for 20$ CAD

I've lubed 2 60hes and still have enough for at least 1 more

Doing a very tedious/thorough lubing job

[cedar gate]

Post inflation blues

[median spade]

lube, you could argue, ruins performance

makes switch tad slower etc etc

[marsh saffron]

Got this kit in September or December

[median spade]

but if you only care about performance then just get teh switches and use them

[agile grove]

technically it can make it faster

[median spade]

in machinery sure

switches already using lo coeffeicent plastic

[marsh saffron]

21 cad

[cedar gate]

But is the sound terrible and improved greatly with lubed springs

[median spade]

that is true

[cedar gate]

Oh I was gonna buy from wooting but that's a lot better

[marsh saffron]

Yeah wootings has higher quality tools but that's not necessary

The Amazon/AliExpress kit works just fine

[median spade]

gotta do the initiation way like the rest of us

spend 12 hours because you don't want to spend money on switch opener

and use screwdriver which takes 9 years

[wide kraken]

one could argue you're more likely to get genuine krytox blend from wooting or other known vendor

but honestly having used some knockoff 205g0 for a while before getting the real stuff i don't think it makes much difference.
(it will all split sooner or later)

[cedar gate]

.

[marsh saffron]

Mines been going on fine for 5 months now

[median spade]

I'll say this

you won't know what you're looking for like, like the springs, and probably won't notice

I'm one of the few who has complained about springs but I've also lubed over 10000+ springs and switches

and usually use quality TX ones in my MX stuff so i notice when springs are bad

[wide kraken]

it's more on the order of like 2-3 years +

[cedar gate]

So there is basically no difference to the untrained ear

[median spade]

yes

1000%

the only switches I've foundthat people actually notice how bad the springs are is Cherry stuff

those springs are literally the worst

even with lube they still ping most times

[cedar gate]

Awesome no way I'm gonna spend an afternoon and 30$ for a hair of a difference

[median spade]

if we could enumerate it

it's really like a 5% difference is all

for how switches come these days I should say

[wide kraken]

lubing is more or less "if it bothers you as stock, do it"

[marsh saffron]

Lubing makes a huge difference

Stock didn't bother me but I wanted to see how much better it was

[median spade]

For old stock switches I would agree and been at this hobby for 4-5 years

My jades are better for sure, but would i say huge difference? Nah

[marsh saffron]

Lekkers specifically

It makes a huge difference

[median spade]

Oh well there is no saving those switches

they bad even with lube

[wide kraken]

yeah the lube dampens a bit of the rattle but it's still pretty noticable imo

[cedar gate]

Lol I was thinking about the L45 but the jades sound so much better

[median spade]

like 99.9% of people would agree with you

[marsh saffron]

I might wait for lekker v2s before buying jaded

Jades

[median spade]

THe one sound test we have is nice, but need more to get accurate of course

But that's also in the new mounting style 80he has etc etc

[cedar gate]

Switch foam or no?

[median spade]

doesn't do anything really for HE stuff atm

so don't waste your time with it

[cedar gate]

So no?

[median spade]

No indeed

[spiral anvil]

Man the Wooting case does not want to get primed

I'm on layer 3 now

Finally looks white now

[stray tiger]

Did you sand first?

[shy tapir]

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Silicone-Rings-Diameter-Gasket/dp/B082STN4LT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33A47OR6PIMCA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.IrAXeMSKe_9G4hlCKASqFrQdS8HWDKBItnJdfV5CHFUoi0Vw1m76APoHVbbL03M3i4Vbl01iPeWv0ZO_2GGtkFcRSpYjS4ILY2l3B8QW0o70OdSRekN7gXdt6xulmbGq-nYax5x8gf4D3hv0KzvuSM48d4gSE0F8TttcLhJCPjmIcMwm85mrXMFx237jqhsGUD0xmHrUiIVqEqZSm8BMJcegX7m8DdBm3avKyUhhGjs.Ws3-PQTV9P6MZczZIsLRPrxep3_kiYkOp-wq9b9IjRY&dib_tag=se&keywords=1mmx4mm+rubber%2Fsilicone+o-rings&qid=1711561995&sprefix=1mmx4mm+rubber%2Fsilicone+o-rings%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1

does this work for the burger mount

[spiral anvil]

Yea

Its sticking its just that the coats aren't thick enough

[wide kraken]

yep, that's the right size. you'll also need longer screws (e.g. M2x6 countersunk)

[untold wigeon]

im looking to make my wooting sound better when i get my new acrylic tofu60, should i get a new plate like FR4? or does that not matter as much

also looking into getting jade switches from my l45s

[wide kraken]

just depends if you like higher or lower pitched sounds coming from your plate

(generally) softer plates like PC are lower, stiffer plates like alu and CF are higher. FR4 somewhere in the middle

(and the more dampening you put in the build the less that difference matters)

[valid flint]

Am I supposed to put the foam inlay ontop of the silicone or remove the silicone and put the foam one in? because with just the foam one it just sounds like this:

mkv..

[pastel vigil]

Look what I just found in my mailbox 👀👀

[stray tiger]

One or the other

[wide kraken]

for the plate/pcb sandwich it's either silicone or foam, can't do both.

at least personally there was some vibration or resonance in the plate when using the foam that I didn't like either, maybe it's the same with yours

[stray tiger]

Nothing like some Swithkeys

[shy tapir]

Thank u

[stray tiger]

Not swift and not switch just swith

[pastel vigil]

Only the best chinglesh for my wooting

[wide kraken]

i like how these are always labeled as magnetic springs for some reason even though it's the exact opposite?

[pastel vigil]

I guess they are labelled that way because they are specced for magnetic switches

It's not the same size as your ordinary spring and Idk what else they'd call it

[wide kraken]

"non-magnetic springs" surely

[pastel vigil]

In the description I remember it didn't even say it was for Lekkers, it was for laker switches lmao

[wide kraken]

oh yeah that one lol

[strange quarry]

so for the wooting two he with jades, do i need long pole tx ap's or normal

[pastel vigil]

long poles

But TX AP's can have fitment issues with the 60he plate

If you are using stock keycaps the Jades work just fine, you don't need to swap the stabs

I can confirm they are also fine with GMK keycaps, not sure about others.

[strange quarry]

i'm using aftermarket stabs and i just can't get them to not feel sluggish on the spacebar, i was hoping i'd have better luck with tx

[shrewd hatch]

I've ordered a set of plate mount tx ap and jades, how's the compatibility? @pastel vigil

[pastel vigil]

Like I said, they can have fitment issues, so can't really tell you.

Either it'll be fine for you or the stabs won't work, can't really tell.

[shrewd hatch]

Ah okay, just luck of the draw then I guess

[pastel vigil]

the stock stabs are perfectly fine once you tune and lube them. Especially if you have the module.

[pastel vigil]

Yeah, there's too many factors to be able to reliably predict.

I have 2 sets of TXs and no luck, I know other have used multiple sets of TXs with no issues so it is what it is lol

[strange quarry]

i have the TWO HE, no module available

[pastel vigil]

Oh I assumed you were on the 60he. Forget everything I've said, not sure if it's applicable to the TWOHE.

[shrewd hatch]

Yoy using the + or the original? The tenz guy in here was also running tx stabs with jade's on the original I believe

[pastel vigil]

The +

[shrewd hatch]

Ah okay, I've got the original so maybe that's why

With the plate mount instead of clip in

[polar girder]

What

Y’all taking anecdotes for fact

Many people using jades with stock stabs no issue

[pastel vigil]

Yes that's what I said 🙂

[polar girder]

Just cuz couple people run in to problems doesn’t mean everyone needs them

[pastel vigil]

Also what I said, and I even told them when they would run into a problem.

[strange quarry]

i've had an issue with the stock stab of my spacebar for a while, right now i'm using fl cmmk's and they're better, but they have a sluggish feeling on either side of the spacebar

[wide kraken]

if you're sure it's not overlubed, have you checked if your spacebar might be warped maybe?

since it persists across different stabs

[strange quarry]

it does it even when it's bone dry, and the spacebar doesn't seem warped, it lies flat and tapping on either side of it while on a flat surface doesn't cause any sort of noise

[wide kraken]

strange

[strange quarry]

it's been driving me insane

[wide kraken]

and it's sluggish throughout the keystroke, or only part?

[strange quarry]

throughout, makes spamming the key difficult

most noticeable on the left side

[latent fern]

the only thing i did with my 60HE+ module stabs was plug the butt with a syringe of 205g0 and they were perfect

[wide kraken]

sorry if these are dumb questions, but to narrow down the source have you tried a different spacebar? tested the motion without the switch installed?

[strange quarry]

it actually gets worse with a different spacebar

[dire vale]

Hey guys do you have any suggestion for creamy/thocky switches that could be good with the hi75 ?
I want a good sounding board for my wife with this sound profile

[shell geode]

WS Morandi are popular, followed by Gateron Oil Kings. Hope this helps!

[dire vale]

Thank you mate !