🔧│keyboard_modding

[pastel vigil]

I might also put the lekker spring with the stem into rapters and put the 70g springs into the jades. My logic is more resistence to make up for less travel

[fluid ravine]

If so then whats the point of having jades 😂

[pastel vigil]

but ill just have to do a few different franken switches and then see what feels best

[latent fern]

the better housing

[fluid ravine]

No like cus in the Jades, both top housing and stem increased in size comparing to lekkers

[latent fern]

ohhhh

idk that

[pastel vigil]

so you can't mix and match housings/stem with jades?

[fluid ravine]

No you can but theres no point

[wide kraken]

tbh i did a stem swap between L60 and Jade and didn't notice much difference in either, i think it's mostly the housing
(though it wasn't extensive testing or anything)

[fluid ravine]

It will just make it wobble more

well not necessarily more but yk what i mean

[pastel vigil]

ye, no benefit

Im gonna stick with just swapping the springs lol

[fluid ravine]

Yeah spring swapping would be the way to go with the jades depending on your preference

I would too, i usually like my springs at like 60-70 grams

I prob favor in 65 but 60 is still 100% solid for me

[pastel vigil]

Part of the reason I got 70g springs is because they are also 18mm, i know with non he switches it's usually the best feeling for me, so wil lhave to see if it still feels best with jades or other he switches

but since it's Ali Express am gonna be waiting forever lmao

[fluid ravine]

oh not ali 😭

you got a link

i wanna take a look

[median spade]

18mm 70g damn

You like that heavier typing experience

[fluid ravine]

same here!

[median spade]

I use that for my spacebar only on my Mx stuff

[pastel vigil]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006273053817.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.458e1802XbIC4G

[fluid ravine]

I wouldnt mind 70g for gaming at all tbh

[pastel vigil]

I have a big/heavy hand.

[fluid ravine]

"Laker switch"

😂

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-lakers-dance-gif-21628249

[fluid ravine]

Seems somewhat legit

[wide kraken]

i love gareron switches

[pastel vigil]

Its cheap enough that I have no expectations

but ive seen other people on this discord recommend it

[cunning pond]

Can you put the L45s in the 2HE?

[wide kraken]

same switch compatibility yes

[cunning pond]

Thanks for the info

[latent fern]

where is this from? haha

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[latent fern]

ohhhhh haha

do the L45s have the same stem wobble as the L60s?

[pastel vigil]

It should, iirc the 45s are the same switch, just different colored stem and different springs

[fluid ravine]

correct

[latent fern]

did yall install the flat o-ring stickers that wooting provided with the module?

is it for the standoffs?

[empty acorn]

Anyone know good keycaps?

[latent fern]

whats your budget?

[empty acorn]

∞

And my kbd case is purple one

PSD60 Violet

[latent fern]

if you got the money then go GMK haha

or ePBT

or Wuque Studios keycaps

or Osume

[pastel vigil]

https://omnitype.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-symbiote-keycap-set?_pos=7&_fid=e6382f230&_ss=c

[untold wigeon]

Thats sexy i wont lie

[empty acorn]

Thx

[latent fern]

https://omnitype.com/products/pbtfans-x-ray

these are interesting

[empty acorn]

Out of stock

[latent fern]

https://omnitype.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-tuzi-keycap-set

[empty acorn]

So cute

And I should buy l45 switch?

[latent fern]

i love Tuzi so much but all my boards are blue haha

[latent fern]

if you like the lighter spring then go for it

[empty acorn]

Is it difficult to swap?

[latent fern]

no its not difficult

but its less work if you get the switch with springs you like out of the box

[empty acorn]

Thx

[latent fern]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-yamada-thumbs-up-bocchi-the-rock-anime-smile-gif-27225579

[empty acorn]

Too expensive shipping fee TT

[polar girder]

yo new lekker "pros" with the l45 spring yesssss

so curious what that new new spring will be

[weary tree]

WHERE? IS THERE INFO?

[median spade]

Sounds like a perfect excuse to buy lavender or ewhite board

[pastel vigil]

The bug real. I keep saying one more purchase ....

[dry pasture]

Hi guys, do you guys know where can I buy the silicone back feet for the Alumaze60? I lost the higher feet.

[pastel vigil]

I imagine they keep some spares on hand for situations like this, id shoot them a message and see if you can buy some.

[dry pasture]

Thank you very much

[tawdry tree]

Not after Geon in particular, after Latenpow (the manufacturer of Geon’s HE switches). The Latenpow White and Raptor HE switches are a blatant copy of Gateron’s KS-20 switches but their patent is as empty as can be, nothing they did was new so I hope they’ll be unsuccessful. It’s just a sorry ass attempt on a monopoly.

Latenpow

The Omni-Point/KS-20/Lekker switch, yes.

[tawdry tree]

Every KS-20 switch apart from the 20Us use the same stem and top housing.

[tawdry tree]

You can, however, it’d be solely for aesthetic purpose.

[glacial wind]

TUT Game 1989 full base set on sale in korea for $38 btw if any other koreanites happen to be here

[crimson sky]

I thought the gateron patent thing was just about jades

also geon made more expensive mistakes in the past already

[tawdry tree]

Not as far as I read into their claim, I could’ve misread though.

[crimson sky]

the F2 essentially had a million dollar production error

[wide kraken]

ty for the details

[fleet escarp]

Hi! Does anyone has a secret seller who sells (duh) french MX AZERTY PBT keycaps (and are in stock)? This thing is rare as fuck, in France custom keeb and keycaps sets are not popular at all so I struggle a bit

[median spade]

I see I see

[median spade]

Gateron would rather sue than make good switches

Because this time around they got lucky and aren't stealing from another manufacturer this time (cherry)

[devout torrent]

who are they suing?

latenpow?

[median spade]

trying to from what was said above yeah

[devout torrent]

where'd you see this?

[untold wigeon]

tenturo do u know why gateron has 2 sites? like there is one that is .co and the other one being .com

[median spade]

yeah not sure

well I know that .co is usually for certain countries, but I'm not sure why gateron has it when .com covers everything else

[untold wigeon]

weird right, i looking to buy the ks-20u's and they are only available on the .com website

guess the .com is all good then?

[median spade]

Definitely

It's where I bought my jades from at the time

[untold wigeon]

wonders, thanks alot

[devout torrent]

yeah the .com is also where I ordereed from

for my jades

[untold wigeon]

awsome, thanks for the input!

[tawdry tree]

It was posted on Frontier. I don’t think they are suing anyone yet but that document was about them having or trying to patent the KS-20 switch.

That’s how I understood it.

[devout torrent]

yeah but I havent seen them actually go after anyone

just that they have a patent

and one of hte patents people were posting was several years old anyways

so not really news

[tawdry tree]

The post on Frontier wasn’t old. So I’m not sure why it would be posted recently.

[tawdry tree]

Could be news now because Gateron believes manufactures are infringing on their patent now.

LTP cough cough.

😄

[median spade]

Oh the pot calling the kettle black

[tawdry tree]

Exactly. 🤣

[remote cairn]

Okay, thank you

[stray tiger]

If you pick me up a set I've got a friend heading to Korea in 3 weeks and he could grab it.

[glacial wind]

dam I would but I have to use a special bank account to shop online in korea and it's empty right now. Can't load it up until tomorrow and I think sale ends tonight

oh it ended already rip. Guess it ended just shortly after I posted that

[stray tiger]

No worries!

[junior granite]

Hi, I hope this is the right place to ask! My order arrives in two weeks and I just wanted to know how important it is if you lube the keys before getting started. I didn't even know it was a thing until I placed the order! Tia

[stray tiger]

The switches come factory lubed and if they sound/feel good to you when you get the board then you don't have to worry about it at all.

[polar girder]

Yo can jades be spring swapped?

Asking for a friend

Like with an l45

[stray tiger]

Yes

[wicked ingot]

I have jades in the tofu redux with the brass bar and the steel switch plate because I bought a prebuild 60he and it sounds kinda hollow should I buy a pc switch plate

[stray tiger]

Try some different dampening materials first, try removing the foam betwene PCB and plate, work with what you have before you spend money

[wicked ingot]

should I try the wooting foam with the tofu foam

[polar girder]

Ty

[polar girder]

I couldn’t get both to fit YMMV

[wicked ingot]

what will that do for the sound

[wicked ingot]

which one are you using

[warped inlet]

rn i have pc switch plate with silicone in middle of pcb and plate, and silicone under the pcb, no hollows, sounds good

today i received magnetic jade and keebtape, i think will sound very good overall

[stray tiger]

Depends on the material you use and tweaks you make. Check the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 for ideas and feel free to ask questions

[polar girder]

Neither

Using polyfill

[untold wigeon]

any 3rd party cases close to the look of the stock 60he case?

[agile grove]

there's wooting's own alumaze, other than that not really

[untold wigeon]

not a big fan of the aluminum

oh well

[static tendon]

Has there been any mention of a gasket mounted 60% or 65% from Wooting? Would this ever become a thing or is it currently only exclusive to the 80HE?

[static tendon]

Wilba tech salvation is on sale for 180$ which is a steal compared to what it normally is. It has these leaf springs that make it bounce when typing. Currently using it right now

[stray tiger]

Yeah the NK sale is really good. I picked up 3 sets of their PBT caps for $99. Screaming deal. The GMK sale is also banging but there wasn't 3 sets I needed as I have most of the ones I want except for Olive.

[stray tiger]

Unless youre referring to another vendor

[static tendon]

I’ve been eying those deals as well 👀

[static tendon]

You got it, I was referring to Novel Keys

[harsh dove]

I wanted that Cherry Milkshake PBT Set but they only have the Weirdo Bases left

[stray tiger]

I have milkshake and its a sweet set (no pun intended)

[harsh dove]

I know I'm sad

I also want a nice BoG set and man are those hard to find

The ones Cannonkeys and KBD did are all sold out from last year

[stray tiger]

I might have an extra BoG set I can sell you Cam. I think I have 2 sets from CK

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

Wanna give me your cherry milkshake too? jk

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-jokes-huh-jokes-funny-teasing-good-one-gif-9922488

I picked up the last 3 PBT sets I didn't have that I have any interest in

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-im-here-till-thursday-try-the-veal-ha-ha-thursday-gif-22160781

[harsh dove]

Wow lol

This is pretty similar to what I was gonna get

[harsh dove]

I'm not sold on the Sage yet but its hard to choose

[untold wigeon]

hmmm

any transparent cases aside from the tofu redux and ADK64?

[stray tiger]

Sage is a solid choice

[untold wigeon]

trying to go for a frutiger aero wooting

[junior granite]

Sweet, thank you

[stray tiger]

Baldr60, Klippe PC, KBDFans 5 Degree Acrylic if you can find them

[untold wigeon]

Baldr60 looks sick, thank u

[bold jacinth]

where ?

[harsh dove]

https://novelkeys.com/collections/spring-cleaning-b2g1?page=2

[bold jacinth]

thx

[untold wigeon]

wish nk would restock their godamn deskmats

[stray tiger]

Which one?

[untold wigeon]

cutting mat

but i really dont think they are going to restock it

limited drop?

no clue tbh

https://deskpads.gallery/product/cutting-mat

another site has a sim design so i can go for this one

[stray tiger]

Ahh gotcha. If it was a GMK mat I was going to say I might have it

[untold wigeon]

man i remember my first gmk mat

i got a gmk bento that i waited for

and 2 weeks into it i dropped something sharp on it

peirced it

[stray tiger]

The original bento release?

or r2?

[untold wigeon]

im pretty sure its r1

blue one

oh wiat

might have been r2

[stray tiger]

I have the original bento set along with the novelties and chopsticks kits (spacebars) in the old plastic trays they used.

If it came in the white cardboard then its r2

[untold wigeon]

iirc i bought it around 2020-2021

i think

sadly i throw out all packaging for smaller things

only boxes ive kept are for my pc parts lmao

still sad i missed the gmk sale on nk, they restocked gmk striker for 99$

i swear after taeha built that fornite streamers keyboard with strikers everyone was rocking em

and it just felt overused at that point

[stray tiger]

Oh then it was r1. Nice

[untold wigeon]

Yea sadly its ruined

Anyone try durock stabs? i have spares but i feel it aint going to be worth swapping them out for the stock stabs

[harsh dove]

Theyre basically the same as the stock ones

[tawdry tree]

They’re only good if you make them good. 😉

[foggy iron]

Are there lower profile cases than the alumaze60?

Or would that just sound bad

[pastel vigil]

I have a freebird60 case

it's 5 degrees

[iron bear]

It's not lower than the Alumaze

[pastel vigil]

How low is the alumaze? I thought it was 7.5

[iron bear]

There is some GH60 aluminum case that might be lower on Aliexpress or Amazon

[pastel vigil]

I completely forgot about the other set of feet lol

[untold wigeon]

me trying to not to do something different with my wooting every other week

lol

now that it's out of the case surely I have to change something

[pastel vigil]

Damn you last every other week?

I'm up in this bi every other day lmao

[median spade]

the cycle of wooting is too modify it every week and the sound never improves or get better till you finally give up

[untold wigeon]

honestly I've been two months sober

but today

[pastel vigil]

I consider myself lucky because I think the stock prebuilt plastic wooting sounds best

[untold wigeon]

I just had the urge

I pop my wooting in the stock case when I gotta bring it around

[median spade]

If you have never dabbled into the custom side of mechanical keyboards then 60he and such sounds amazing against gamer keyboards

but ify ou have experience like me and others 60he just never comes close

[foggy iron]

Gonna look after it

[untold wigeon]

yea it annoys me

I've been spoiled too much in the past

[median spade]

best sounding 60he you can do right now is putting it in a frog mini if you don't mind the investment

I tried pretty much every good case you can get it for it and was the best

[untold wigeon]

yea I would but investment plus the plate cost

it's steep

[pastel vigil]

My 60he is basically my first real keyboard.

[quiet bay]

same

[untold wigeon]

today ima try tape modding the jades

[pastel vigil]

I've tried a bunch of cases, switches, keycaps etc and honestly I find the stock configuration sounds best. I haven't tried other keyboards in person, but from a lot of videos I see, I dont like how most of them sound. With the wooting I like that it is quiet and low pitched.

[foggy iron]

What about 3rd party plastic cases 😄 shouldn’t plastic sound a bit „better?

[untold wigeon]

ima try getting rid of this annoying ass sound when the stem hits the housing

[latent fern]

i felt this haha

[pastel vigil]

lmk how this goes because i hate that sound

[latent fern]

the best config i got so far is no pcb foam, stock wooting foam, and the included silicon stickers on the tofu 60 standoffs

i also used wheel weights instead of the brass weight and secured it with a layer of masking tape

[untold wigeon]

no difference

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-17048449662472934214

[untold wigeon]

or slight but not noticeable at all

to the point where I can't tell

[pastel vigil]

Lubing the shit out of them dampens the sound a bit

but i still hate it

[untold wigeon]

yea I'm about to hand lube them and see what we are working with

[pastel vigil]

don't forget the springs

[untold wigeon]

lmao I'm bag lubing those

and thn spending 30 minutes untangling them

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/uganda-knuckles-meme-do-you-know-the-way-knuckles-wae-gif-5971224733590055782

[quiet bay]

Have fun (you wont)

[idle pier]

do you guys have tips to lube stabs? i dont feel like unscrewing them from the module atm but they could use some work

is it an issue to just lube them while theyre in?

[pastel vigil]

You can but it's not the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8&t=596s

[idle pier]

looks really easy and straightforward, i dont have a syringe but ig i can try with the brush, tyvm

[latent fern]

ngl i just injected 205g0 into the stab stems and it worked out great

[idle pier]

like shown on the vid?

[latent fern]

exactly

out of the box the stabs werent bad at all but injecting the extra 205g0 inside the stem made them perfect

[idle pier]

super good to hear, i'll give it a shot ty

[empty acorn]

what to do for keycap not to get shine

I bought GMK TUZI

[pastel vigil]

Don't use them.

[empty acorn]

Damn

i'm afraid of my keycaps get shine

[pastel vigil]

Why are so many of you afraid of shining so bad?

https://tenor.com/view/the-shining-creepy-jack-nicholson-gif-4636124

[empty acorn]

shining my GMK means I lost 200＄

[pastel vigil]

Then you can't afford those keycaps.

They are meant to be used, you are paying to use them.

[empty acorn]

Im dead

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[fluid ravine]

Just got more Krytox from my carpool :DDDD

Anyone have any idea on how to transfer krytox from one jar to another

[stray tiger]

Use your tongue

[fluid ravine]

[pastel vigil]

Enable me.

Should I pull the trigger on the duel rail orange gaterons

[fluid ravine]

Any other options in mind?

If no then I enable you

[pastel vigil]

Basically I wanna try every HE swtich.

[fluid ravine]

Which ones do you have so far

or planning to buy

[pastel vigil]

Jades Lekkers and Raptors

[fluid ravine]

Yep pull the trigger then

[pastel vigil]

goated, ty

well, gateron blocked that notion.

keeps saying "Please enter a valid phone number." no matter what I put

nvm it worked

[fluid ravine]

K just transferred the lube :D

[pastel vigil]

With your tongue?

[fluid ravine]

Ye

[devout torrent]

will a wooting fit in a moontower/

ok nah

it wont

[static tendon]

Has there been any mention of a gasket mounted 60% or 65% from Wooting? Would this ever become a thing or is it currently only exclusive to the 80HE?

[shell geode]

Hey Kosmos! Good to see you're still around! I also would like to know, but totally get it since the 60he is a finished product and this requires going back to the drawing board. Good opportunity to design your own 😉

[harsh dove]

As of right now, I doubt it, would need a hardware redesign, but who knows in the future, couple years from now

[static tendon]

Ok gotcha. I was planning to potentially purchase another salvation and wanting to make sure I’m not accidentally buying something to get outdated too quickly. This Novel keys deal is too good to pass on

[tawdry tree]

A gasket mounted 60HE would require a new silicone pad and case. So it isn’t impossible but I’m not sure if we’ll ever see it.

[static tendon]

Hmm got it. As much as I love the salvation, I do strongly believe gasket mount will always be better

That’s why I’m hesitant on getting another. If a new gasket mount releases for a 60% I’ll just have to buy it again. Trying to avoid this in the future if possible

[stray tiger]

To my (limited) knowledge, there hasn't been any public information released about redesigning the 60HE in a gasket mounted version but with the popularity of 8K polling/scanning being requested for the 60HE, I'd be willing to speculate that any redesign of the 60HE to support 8K, would also come with a design refresh to support different mounting options.

[static tendon]

Yeah I can see that happening as well. Wooting definitely makes constant updates/changes. It’s awesome no doubt but I wanna make sure I’m not getting something that’ll quickly get dated with short time

[devout torrent]

I would pay all the monies for redesigned 60he with gasket likke 80he

heck they could just drop plate foam like the 80 he + a case

[static tendon]

Yeah same

[devout torrent]

and I would buy that

[tawdry tree]

That’s if they come up with something clever to fit the bigger MCU on the 60HE’s PCB. I hope they do.

[stray tiger]

I don't think a lack of creativity/clever design is something Wooting is lacking 🙂

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that would seem the most likely. Could be a neat product.

[devout torrent]

yeah definitely very possible for them to do!

lots of the current owners would immediately buy it

[static tendon]

Agreed, that’s what makes wooting stand out from the other companies. Love it, adapting and adjusting. Also the customers feedback is strongly considered

[fluid ravine]

Indeed
The plate foam gasket is very unique

Impressed the fk out of me

[tawdry tree]

Should’ve seen the silicone switch pad case.

I still hope they make that a product.

[fluid ravine]

Yo?

Got an image or info on that?

[tawdry tree]

Calder showed it a couple times during streams, don’t got an ss of it though.

:/

[stray tiger]

Something similar has been done before (only once to my knowledge) but I think Wooting's implementation of it will be significantly better.

[fluid ravine]

Wait i think i missed out on some info

ima take a look in a bit

[fluid ravine]

Wait what are they using now?

[stray tiger]

I mean, using the plate dampening material as a gasket has been done before in the keyboard hobby, but it wasn't a great implementation.

[fluid ravine]

oh ok

[stray tiger]

The KBD67 Lite used a similar silicone gasket mounting system back in 2020, but the implementation sucked.

[fluid ravine]

Wait Preinstalled Tape mod on 80he?

8. PET film "tape mod"

[stray tiger]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

double u

[remote cairn]

https://omnitype.com/products/pbtfans-x-ray?_pos=1&_psq=x-ray&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=43782080463017
Hey guys, do you think this set of keycaps would go best with the raw or white zinc alloy case?

[latent fern]

zinc for the contrast

[harsh dove]

I feel like 70% of the people with white zinc cases are gonna have that set

Cause that’s all I see people post lol

[brazen sparrow]

Are the gateron KS-20 the same as l45s?

Spec wise they seem really similar

[fluid ravine]

Yes they are
Lekkers ARE KS-20

[agile grove]

frost

[old halo]

First time assembling my own keyboard(60HE+), I lubed everything and put them together, I feel like everyother key sounds okay ish to me(I was afraid of over lubing so applied only a thin layer of lube), but the space bar sounds a bit weird to me, I am not sure it is because that I never heard of lubed metal cased keyboards before or I did something wrong like applying too little/much lube?

sorry for the bad sound quality, using my phone, don't have a desk mic

[latent fern]

sounds like a keyboard to me

[weary tree]

if you have plate mount stabs you could try the band aid mod under the stabs

like a piece of band aid on the pcb

https://youtu.be/zB9U0QQrNF0?si=YMBhIEYPZY6JgHTZ

[old halo]

kk will give it a try later

[reef lava]

Any idea on whats the bottom out force for the jade switches? I cant seem to find it… are they heavier than the L45s overall?

[agile grove]

30g - 50g, actuation is the same bottom out is a bit heavier

[reef lava]

Hmmm

[tacit acorn]

Hello, what is the name of that mod ? Is there any guide video you know of that you can share with me to try this mod?

[weary tree]

switch tape mod

no there is no video as its not common outside oh the HE swicthes

#1173784544529363034 message

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[tacit acorn]

Nice thanks you!

[spiral anvil]

Why it sound like popcorn

[weary tree]

i think your spacebar is pinging

can clearly hear metal

[spiral anvil]

Ah so its the metal weights at the bottom

[weary tree]

nah more like the stabs

like the wire

[spiral anvil]

Weird I just tuned them

[weary tree]

mine has a weight too

[spiral anvil]

I don't hear it irl

Probably because I put my iPad nexts to the weights

[weary tree]

if it doesnt bother you its fine

[spiral anvil]

Yea just the recording sounds so different from irl

[spiral anvil]

Without the weights

I got to record on my actual mic idk why it sounds wet

💀

[quiet bay]

sounds more hollow

im assuming u have tofu redux?

You gotta fill in the hole or else it'll sound empty

[spiral anvil]

Nah wood case

Its foamed too

[spiral anvil]

Pretty sure its my workdesk

Brb

[quiet bay]

Ig thats one part of it that produces the sound

my thought was wood at first but then u said u had weights in it

Wood looks good but difficult to make it sound good

and if ur typing on the desk just bare, i think a deskmat would help unless u already are using it

[spiral anvil]

It was the workdesk where I was modding it

This should sound much better

[median spade]

Sounds a little clicky

Just the usual he top out tho

[spiral anvil]

I've just gotten used to it

[fluid ravine]

Ow

[fluid ravine]

My ears are bleeding from the sharpness

[fluid ravine]

Thats better

[spiral anvil]

Yea don't know why my iPad sounds so goofy

[fluid ravine]

What you do to your keeb

[spiral anvil]

Nothing, just switched mics

[fluid ravine]

No like what mods

[spiral anvil]

Oh just gummy o-ring mount and wire balance for pcb

Geon raptors frankstein for switches

And wood case

[fluid ravine]

Hmm
Its odd how it sounds really sharp than usual

[fluid ravine]

any case foam?

[spiral anvil]

Neoprene

[fluid ravine]

any plate foam? or none

[spiral anvil]

Default

[fluid ravine]

hmmm ok

interesting

[spiral anvil]

Oh yea its the pc plate not metal

[fluid ravine]

yep im aware :^

[fluid ravine]

does it sound somewhat similar to this recording (prob most likely not and i hope not)

mic did do it a bit dirty 😂

[spiral anvil]

Close enough

The gain is a bit high since my mic is normally further away

[fluid ravine]

Hows neoprene vs wootings?

[spiral anvil]

So it might be clipping

[spiral anvil]

Neoprene was quiter

[fluid ravine]

I use to have neoprene but i ran out of extra for my wooting board

[polar girder]

Yeah I think I’ll try plate foam next time I take it out

[undone frigate]

Just bought a 60he+ module with Jade switches. I found that on AliExpress, Gateron is selling long-pole Silver stabilizers. Are they good, or could you guys link me to a couple of good alternatives?

[weary tree]

its hard to know which one will fit because there has been fitting issues

[undone frigate]

These are the ones that I found and seem to be made specifically for Jade switches. If there is an alternative, I'd be happy to check it out.

[weary tree]

theres TX AP long poles but idk if they fit

[undone frigate]

See, that is where my confusion comes from because not every seller specifies if they are for 1.2mm or 1.6mm PCBs, if they are screw-in or PCB-mounted.

[weary tree]

screw in is a pcb mount no?

[undone frigate]

See i don't know since this is my first custom KB. Is searching for "TX AP Long Pole".

I did a lot of research, but it's still kind of hard to know if I'm buying the right thing.

[weary tree]

you generally want to have long pole stabs for the jades

but yeah there has been reports that tx and staebies (the best go to stabs) to not fit properly

[undone frigate]

Hmm, then the other option is either to use the stock ones or buy the Gateron ones and see how they fit.

[undone frigate]

Thanks for the great information. What I’ll do is see if the stock ones bother me, and if they do, I’ll try the Gateron Silver stabilizers and see how that works.

If I get the silver stabs, I'll provide an update if they have any compatibility problems and how they perform.

[weary tree]

yeah just see how the stocks are

[remote cairn]

Hey, I’m looking for keycaps for my 80HE, and I’ve found a set but on the website it’s written "The keycap base is opaque and is not intended to be used with per key rgb shine through lighting." What would happen if I still put them on a 80HE?

[weary tree]

im guessing its just a disclaimer its not shine through

[harsh dove]

Yeah, there way of saying they’re not backlit/shrine-through

[austere creek]

here you can see shine-through and non shine-through in 1 image. the white keycaps arent shine-through and the black ones are

[remote cairn]

WHat would happen if I still used them tho, because I really like them but finding a keycap set in french is hard, and finding one that is not XDA and shine through is almost impossible

[austere creek]

you still get per key rgb its just that the text on the keycaps is a solid color of the plastic and wont be the color of the rgb below it

rgb will only shine below and around the keycaps

like this

[remote cairn]

It doesn't really matter for me if it doesn't shine through but if I can't see the rbg on the sides then it sucks

[harsh dove]

It’d just look like that image he posted

[remote cairn]

And the keycap set I'd like to order is ABS but $85, idk if I'll still get that shine look after a while

[harsh dove]

You will

[remote cairn]

I think the keycaps are double shot ABS

[austere creek]

it will

[harsh dove]

Embrace the shine

[austere creek]

abs is abs

cant really stop the shine just draw out when it shows

[remote cairn]

I'm on a laptop rn and I can see what the shine is all about and it sucks

I have a mech keyboard at home with PBT keycap and they haven't moved in a year + of usage

[harsh dove]

Shine looks better on customs

lol

PBT is good if you don’t want shine and want a deeper sound

[remote cairn]

Idk how shiny it would look on these tho

[weary tree]

i think it would be fine

i was thinking of getting them too

[remote cairn]

They seem kinda shiny already

[weary tree]

transparent so i dont think it will be really visible

[remote cairn]

They're $85 and I don't really know what keycaps are worth but if they go bad after a while then it would really sucks

[tight hornet]

fr4

[weary tree]

maybe cerakeys cant really shine more than they already are

[latent fern]

jades?

[tight hornet]

yes

[severe rover]

so i have a universal 60% pp plate that wasn't made with wooting in mind. Is it still possible to use that or no?

and if i get a 60% gummy o ring case would that work with the wooting pcb? using plate mount stabs ofc

[latent fern]

what mods and foams did you you use?

[weary tree]

its possible you would have to do custom standoffs

[severe rover]

Is there a guide for that?

[weary tree]

i have no idea the idea scares me

[weary tree]

#1169726936805806171 message this person did a proper gummy oring mount

the original pcb cannot do a real gummy oring. as there are no cutouts in the pcb

you can take a tofu 60 and put a oring around the pcb

[severe rover]

I thought something similar to badseed tech where the rubber o ring could just be slightly out would be good enough damn

[weary tree]

yeah then yes you can do that

the only thing to watch out for is the stabs.

if you get the module you get screw in stabs

and it can interfere

i heard you can get a smaller oring to make it fit

if you get prebuilt you will have plate mount and those dont interfere with the oring

[severe rover]

Alright yea

I guess the pp plate dream might be a rip though

If having to cut holes and shit is needed

[weary tree]

if you want a good typing feel you can get the salvation

https://novelkeys.com/products/salvation-keyboard?

i think today is last day of discount

depends on your budget tho

i just ordered the white one

[severe rover]

I have a January 60 that I gb'd over a year ago coming eventually

Just think of it as a polycarbonate bakaneko/unikorn

Which is why I was asking

But me now I care more about hall effect and its stuff than the whole custom keyboard thing so idk what imma do maybe just sell the thing if it can't work with wooting

[weary tree]

Might as well start a collection

[severe rover]

haha i'm not that into consumerism

i have an ikki68 and i also regret that thing

kind of, it works. just wasn't really worht the whole experience and such

such an expensive hobby

[tight hornet]

tofu redux with brass weight, handlubed jades, polyfill, 4 layers of tempest mod, fr4 plate, pe foam

[cyan adder]

This is my photo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Hello I’m the owner of these and I actually sold it xD

[median spade]

Is that not Thocksons photo?

[stiff plume]

I'm unsure if I'm in the correct text channel to ask for help. I want to change the spacebar stabilizers to apply the Gummy O-ring mod. I currently have the 60HE+ Module. Is this the correct thing to buy?
PCB Size: 1.6T
Pole Size: Long Pole.

Here is the source I'm buying it from.
https://www.switchkeys.com.au/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-rev-4?_pos=1&_sid=21164f366&_ss=r&variant=45335697686821
https://ringerkeys.com/products/replacement-o-rings?variant=39866038190162

[weary tree]

Unless you want to use jades dont get long pole

Also read last line warning #🪛│modding_faq message

[stiff plume]

Sorry for asking, but what are jades? First-time modding a custom keyboard.

[weary tree]

Gateron jades are switches. Long pole switches

[stiff plume]

Ok, thank you for the clarification. I should buy the standard pole since I will be using the Linear45 Lekken Switch.

[weary tree]

Yeah standard

But there might be fitting issues on tx ap. Some dont have issues some do.

Kinda random

[foggy iron]

https://www.amazon.de/Aluminium-CNC-Gehäuse-mechanische-Gaming-Tastatur-kompatibel-Aluminiumfüßen/dp/B07ZR5ZPD7/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2JZTOL001G9XO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OFPK5mPKviZwtMCPpR_6Vi1GZx6C7sor75hdLbLsPdbbp3ussElYuoKryi45zgrZgu9x0zdbruarUlwuie8pca-WSEFF2bjgppmtgxTBeXwMsyy33qgm_6NwKNzDBlY83VOFWiSAc7XWDNwvWm--Sd4ORwR9WINpkx31IdCdeU8YecovLuLhYKxMTJWxaAbf1lQEfuaRLVACtZmCzxpLeg.5l9lZW6qpOkNSsIdngKqQ6jZMuqYGPItpnKUIGCpj2c&dib_tag=se&keywords=gh60%2Bcnc-gehäuse&qid=1711117765&sprefix=gh60%2Bcnc-gehäuse%2B%2Caps%2C68&sr=8-2&th=1
you guys think this would work? seems extremly low profile

[harsh dove]

That link tho..

https://www.amazon.de/Aluminium-CNC-Gehäuse-mechanische-Gaming-Tastatur-kompatibel-Aluminiumfüßen/dp/B07ZR5ZPD7/ref=sr_1_2?

[foggy iron]

wopps

[foggy iron]

hmm is that a yes ?:D

[harsh dove]

The GH60 fits the wooting PCB , yes

[foggy iron]

Thank you very much

[agile grove]

gotta love amazon tracking nonsense

[foggy iron]

i just saw the case wouldnt hide the keys i guess

thats ugly

[cyan adder]

Not this one

I recognized my fingers, and the background that came from an aftermarket French selling website 😂😂 I swapped to jades tho so I sold my tape modded lekkers and hand lubbed for 40€

[median spade]

Man for that amount of work you probably could have done like 70

[stray tiger]

I want this https://youtu.be/d9forDotXkI?si=RCJxTi5YtmydpOxU

[median spade]

That's pretty nitfy

[stray tiger]

I need a new 3D printer but the one I'm eye balling is on backorder until like May/June.

[cyan adder]

i dont mind taking any benefits i just wanna get the amount i paid for the jades so i can swap switches for free

[normal schooner]

link pls

[stray tiger]

https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/a1

[woeful loom]

So I bought the lube set, and this one looks different from the molykote. But the seal keeps slipping and has no actual resistance to open. Anyone got the same product ? How do i seal this krytox bottle from wooting ?

[polar girder]

Should be a rubber seal under the white lid

Two part lid style

The blue rubber thing that barely stays in “seals” it

But yeah it doesn’t really close very well lol

[shell geode]

Hi there! This is the switch tape mod that I fooled around and found. Here's my video

[harsh dove]

Happy Friday everyone ❤️

[quiet bay]

I lost my key with the wooting strap on it 😢

[wind karma]

tragic 😿

[harsh dove]

Cable finally arriving today

Only took like 6 weeks

Handmade + Randall had a death in the family

[formal comet]

the rubbery part that actually seals the bottle actually seals very well when it's covered in lube, trapping air inside when you try to push it in

so try to put it in in such a way that the air can escape

[fluid ravine]

Happy Friday!!!
I took a nap for the first time in forever!!!

sadly it was only 30 minutes

[fluid ravine]

Its Cajn's

I have long luxious mama nails

[quiet bay]

my "naps" are like 3 hours long 💀

[fluid ravine]

guys its sanic!

[tawdry tree]

Isn’t a 30 minute nap where you nap for 8 hours instead and fuck your whole schedule up?

[remote cairn]

Mine are 5/6 hours long 💀

[sweet oak]

You guys have naps?

[fluid ravine]

i discovered it for the first time :D

[sweet oak]

a rare occurrence

[harsh dove]

Bro you take naps

That’s crazy

I wish

[fluid ravine]

Singular
not plural
and its been forever since i had one

[pastel vigil]

naps are always a bad idea for me

rip

[harsh dove]

Oh okay lol

Idk the last time I had a nap

[polar girder]

Chilling

[night folio]

does anyone know what's my best bet for the quietest switch for my 60he?

[pastel vigil]

Your best bet is adding o-rings to the mx stem on the keycaps

jades are loud, but other than that, most HE switches sound pretty similar.

noise level wise, lubing will help.

I'm no pro though, just my 2 cents.

[untold wigeon]

Can someone help me im not sure what to choose (tx ap stabs for the 60he+)

[pastel vigil]

TX APs are a gamble. Might work, might not work.

But assuming oyu get lucky, you want 1.6mm, ideally screw in. You also only need the TKL set. Long Pole TKL if you are using magnetic jades.

the module comes with good stabs, I wouldn't bother if I were you.

[untold wigeon]

Ill just keep the stock stabs then till im ready to gamble

[boreal fjord]

How many of you prefer the burger mount vs no burger mount

[pastel vigil]

no burger mount. I can't be arsed and it's barely noticeable anyways.

O ring mount though

[polar girder]

yeah

same

[boreal fjord]

If my plate is made with screw ins does it support clip in stabs still

I have a third party plate from smkeyboards

I would also like to see what to see what this o ring mount is about

[pastel vigil]

yes, but it would be a downgrade

[boreal fjord]

Gonna keep draining money until i get the sound and feel i want

Sadge

I do love my screw ins

Currently using akko screw ins

Still need to retune my stabs tho

[untold wigeon]

im spending my shitcoin savings on peripherals ;D

dogecoin to the moon!1!

[untold wigeon]

what if i buy 10 and test them all out would i get lucky??

[pastel vigil]

You could. You also might not. Just the nature of gambling.

[pastel vigil]

But hypothetically speaking, if I was doing that, I wouldn't get them all from the same place, I would get them from different stores so I am getting them from as many batches as possible instead of all of them being from the same badge.

[weary tree]

gummy oring mount better

[untold wigeon]

smart idea

thanks

[quaint notch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872694502157090827/1220977612332073000/IMG_0078.jpg?ex=6610e703&is=65fe7203&hm=ce31d2eff70b44b781c4d1e15a73e930ffdcd9208af692cb87dd7efff961a985&=&format=webp&width=1500&height=854

did the raptor mod but some switches feel like they are binding or something

rubbing

shitty ass tolerances

[boreal fjord]

brass plate

vs the pc plate

i see what they had ment why brass is okay

[grim steppe]

It’s TX AP (without any lube). Left side is much more tight than right side. How to fix it?🌚

[floral gale]

what actuation force is heavy enough to the point where i can rest my fingers on my keys? 30g is too light

[tawdry tree]

It’s odd but if they’re smooth still it’s fine.

[tawdry tree]

You have to use them, then they’ll get better. 🙂

[tawdry tree]

Well depends on a lot but have you tried L60s?

[floral gale]

nope, only l45s

[grim steppe]

Whyyy🌚
Is it normal for TX AP?

[tawdry tree]

Could try L60s or wait for Woot’s spring packs.

[tawdry tree]

Are they tight but perfectly functional or are they too tight?

I haven’t seen this one before. 😄

[grim steppe]

Key goes back very slowly

[tawdry tree]

You can try without the switch plate installed, if it’s still, it could be the wire that sticks into the housing that’s too long but that’d be the first time I’ve ever seen it.

Or there might be a rough spot on the stem or something?

[grim steppe]

It’s the same without a stem

[tawdry tree]

Then the wire sticking into the housing might be too long. Cutting it with a wire cutter leaves a sharp edge though so might want to sand it after.

[grim steppe]

It’s even different for different sides of one housing🫠

[tawdry tree]

Does the tip of the wire touch the back of the housing or not?

[grim steppe]

No

[tawdry tree]

If not maybe there’s a rough spot where the wire clips in. If it works perfectly fine on one side and not the other, just use it on the side that works?

[tawdry tree]

Ah okay

[grim steppe]

For some housings it’s on both sides🌚

[tawdry tree]

You have installed one on your board and tried it with a switch yes?

To test.

[grim steppe]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

and it was tight to a point where it’s not functional?

[grim steppe]

Yes. Then I made hole for wire a bit wider. Now it is ok

[tawdry tree]

This I call non functional.

[tawdry tree]

Very odd, you could lube the hole if you have some 205 on hand.

[grim steppe]

But it’s strange that I have to do it with 80% of housing’s

[grim steppe]

Yea. Already

[tawdry tree]

That’s not normal, you’re using the wires it came with?

[tawdry tree]

What the heck?! 😂

You don’t have stabilizers, you have clamps sir.

https://tenor.com/view/clamp-gif-i-love-clamps-clamp-shower-clamp-rain-rain-gif-2995773120840208292

[grim steppe]

Yes

[median spade]

Got a new cable that is rubber and usb c to usb c that supoports up to 130w charging (confirmed by Macbook), but for some reason my 60he thinks the cable not good enough for full rgb brightness and tachyon mode

which is fine as I don't use rgb but was more wanting to see if it would

[untold wigeon]

Yea if u want full brightness and tachyon mode you need to use wooting cable

[median spade]

yeah I don't wnant it as dont' use rgb

but is a curious thing that my cable that can do 130w also tested with my usb wattage checker

can't do full rgb and tachyon

[stray tiger]

Someone else had this issue too and I think the problem came down to the IC in the cable (or it was the voltage regulator). Something about that it wasn't correctly auto sensing the voltage request or something on low power devices. It's been a while and outside of my expertise. I'll see if @molten breach is on as he would know.

[median spade]

That does make sense

It's not big deal or anything as it was a curiousity factor more or so

[stray tiger]

Yeah understand. Like I said, it's been a while but when someone else had the issue Rocky or someone explained that those newer cables have a larger connector on each end because there is some processing that happens on a chip in there and sometimes they don't do great with low voltage but shine with higher voltage (relatively speaking for a max 5-12v cable)

Was playing around with a new module last night and changed the stock screw-in stabs to some TX AP plate mount stabs and only one of them worked well, the rest would get stuck. I thought maybe I over lubed them, which was already a very very light lube job and I tore them a part. Did it three times and then realized that the one that worked (the enter key) worked on every other stab as long as I used the enter key to test with. Turns out the new PBT set I used just created too much stress on the stabs for them to work properly. I switched to an old GMK set and they all worked perfectly. Talk about tight tolerances!

Which now makes me wonder how many people have had issues with TX AP stabs sticking and it was because of keycaps. I was able to replicate with two different sets.

[harsh dove]

Have this same issue with one of my stabs on my spacebar

Works with GMK spacebar

Not with PBT spacebar

And I did the same as you

[stray tiger]

Yeah the tolerances are just too tight and that's not a wooting issue.

[harsh dove]

Tore em apart, swapped parts out etc

Nothing worked lol

[harsh dove]

Correct

[stray tiger]

It's yet another reason why Alexotos mentioned earlier this week that TX stabs aren't great for a lot of installs.

[harsh dove]

Yeah and doesn’t he mainly use just Cherry Clip Ins?

[stray tiger]

The problem is, they are the most widely available long pole stabs so people think it's their only choice but you can find Gateron LP stabs as well if you look. The Gateron black/silver stabs are long pole and can be found on AliExpress and other sites

Yes that's his preferred

[harsh dove]

Thought so, and yeah someone was in here the other day asking about the black/silver gateron stabs

[stray tiger]

Oh nice, maybe people are finally doing some research

[harsh dove]

Haha right

Ooo my Outemus just shipped

[stray tiger]

This is going to be an important point and part of what I write up in the update FAQ. With the 80HE now having Jades as a switch choice, those looking for LP stabs need to be aware of the issues with TX stabs and what the alternatives are. I'll be talking about this during next week's backstage meeting.

[harsh dove]

Also..

[stray tiger]

Oh nice, a Cam edition!

[harsh dove]

Yeah, that’s good, cause the question/problem pops up left and right

[harsh dove]

I thought that was so cool lol

[stray tiger]

I have 3 of his cables and that's the one I use 90% of the time. Love the flexibility

[iron cipher]

Yo can you guys help me with some modding issues regarding 3rd party stabs?

[stray tiger]

If we can't, I'm not sure who could

[iron cipher]

I'll copy and paste what I right in the general server

HELP: So I'm in the process of tuning my TX screw in long poles, but the PC plate adds way too much pressure on the stabs on the right side of the PCB, so as a remedy, I ripped of the stab brackets on the right side plate to alleviate mounting pressure. I am currently considering not screwing in the plate as it would render my solution useless by adding pressure on the stabs when the plate is screwed in. Now I'm wondering if it is mandatory to screw in the PC plate with the PCB, since I'm not sure if the lack of screws will mess with the Magnetic Switches detection, has anyone actually tried not screwing in the plate and PCB?

[harsh dove]

Bro the flexibility is so nice

[iron cipher]

Mb for typos

[stray tiger]

You must screw in the plate

[harsh dove]

^^

[iron cipher]

Do you know if the 3rd party plates from KBDfans have more forgiving tolerances for 3rd party stabs?

[stray tiger]

The switches aren't able to be held in to the PCB since they don't use traditional legs. Just sand/file down the inside of the stab cut out a little

They don't. It's the same.

[harsh dove]

^^

[iron cipher]

I mean I ripped off the brackets with pliers LOL

[harsh dove]

The CF plate from KBD is just as tight tbh

Brackets as in the 4 plastic little legs that poke out?

[stray tiger]

Well you went a little overboard there lol

[iron cipher]

YEAH

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[stray tiger]

For next time a little filing or exacto knife would do the job lol

Or just not using TX stabs

[harsh dove]

Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person who got all tx stabs to work
I know that’s not true but makes me feel like a magician lol

[iron cipher]

I''l try to see if screwing in the plate will still cause my stabilisers to stick, fingers crossed on the switches. If not, I'll find some way to make sure the switches stay on the PCB

[iron cipher]

And I'm determined to join you there lmao

[stray tiger]

Please don't glue the switches down

[iron cipher]

Yeah obv, that would just mess with the PCB

[harsh dove]

Have you seen someone do that tirade….

Cause if so

[stray tiger]

No but he already ripped off the stab clips so when he said "I'll find a way to keep the switches in the PCB" I just wanted to mention it lol

[harsh dove]

Lmao true

[stray tiger]

A drop of superglue would actually work fine right along the edge of the switch but I that would be an incredibly bad idea

[harsh dove]

We test a lot of things, that is not one I’ll be doing hahahah

[iron cipher]

Ok i just tested the Backspace, Enter, and Right Shift Key, without the plate screwed in, inputs are fine, don't care about rapid trigger on those keys for obv reason. Fingers crossed on the stabs not sticking again when I screw the plate in

[stray tiger]

Again, if they stick, since you have the PC plate you could widen the cut out slightly with a file or exacto knife. Ideally you get different stabs though

[iron cipher]

Hopefully other keys are not affected as well by the lack of stab clips

[stray tiger]

Other keys won't be affected

[iron cipher]

Yeah, might just have to stick with stock and just buy a new set of the plate kit, won't know if the stabs will genuinely work properly unless all switches and screws are in place because of the mounting pressure throughout the PCB

[mellow beacon]

I just want new he switches to come out, I'm sure they can do better than the jades

[polar girder]

exaCTLY

Whoops

[stray tiger]

Already in the works

[harsh dove]

Basically just need a company to not cheap out on HE switch and make a high quality switch, with POM or Nylon, etc, instead of all these PC Top housings

And stop favoring RGB

[stray tiger]

RGB will almost always be a concern with gaming keyboards but a milky top might be a good compromise

[harsh dove]

Yeah I know sadly, but yeah at least milky if not opaque

[iron cipher]

Sorry to butt in again, but did you end up using the tx stabs and were they screwed in?

[trail mortar]

i'm trying to lube the stabalisers for the 60he+ but i can't see how i can disassemble them

any advice?

[harsh dove]

Yeah, ive tested every tx ap stab except their long poles

I got all mine to work on various plates without sanding anything down

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[iron cipher]

Did you end up not using as much lube as you would on other boards

[stray tiger]

Also, there is already a nylon and POM HE switch out there and you dont like it 🙂

[harsh dove]

Yeah I always recommend using less lube with tx stabs

[harsh dove]

Raptors?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Yeah ew

lol

I’ve tried to make myself like em

[iron cipher]

Yeah the tolerances are tight AF, as well as on the staebies, had to be really patient when assembling them

[harsh dove]

Yeah less is more with those stabs

[stray tiger]

Staebies are a no go with this board and the TX AP's are 50/50

[harsh dove]

^^

[stray tiger]

Maybe I shouldnt say no go, maybe like a 10% go

[iron cipher]

Yup, got a second handed gmmk pro, bought some staebies and that spacebar was not ascend at all

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah idk anyone who’s gotten staebies to work tho

[iron cipher]

I mean other than the fact that they are infuriating to assemble, I got them in my QK75N and they are great honestly, save for the fact I needed to use shims on that PCB

[harsh dove]

I meant with the wooting plate’s specifically, sorry

[iron cipher]

I think any stabs with really tight tolerances are just hard to work with

Any experience with Durock screw-ins?

[stray tiger]

Work great

[waxen glade]

how do i remove the pcb a from the top plate? ive unscrewed everything but the switches are kinda holding on pretty hard

[iron cipher]

remove the switches

[waxen glade]

just wanted to see before i did that since the video said it might damage the pcb if i remove while still attached

nvm got it i just had to use a tad bit more force

i was being too careful haha

[agile grove]

you dont have to take the switches off to remove the plate

[agile grove]

remove the keycaps from the keys with stabilizers, apply a little force when pulling but be gentle

[iron cipher]

Im assuming he meant the PC plate? In general I avoid manhandling the plate with the switches attatched tho, like I do not trust myself to do that without damaging the anything

[waxen glade]

also while i have this open, which pad should i use to minimize ping sounds or overall volume? the silicone one already there or the poron one?

[agile grove]

it really shouldnt damage anything, in fact removing the switches while the plate is still connected has more chances of damaging the switches

[polar girder]

Anyone watching the CS2 major?

Getting interesting

[stray tiger]

I've been watching for a few days

[polar girder]

Mouz and Spirit looking good

[elfin garnet]

I really cant with jade switches on my stab keys. I know the keys are moving from side to side when I press hard on either side and I know I'm not doing that during normal use but it gives me a placebo feeling of it doing it and that annoys me too much. I love the jades for my alphas but I cant wait for more HE switches to release

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-stem-spacer?variant=40684931842113

I just bought this and hope that will make it better. I already tried with plastic wrap inside the keys but still annoying

[stray tiger]

Those will work fine

[delicate flower]

I've been thinkin about shwappin out from a random amazon case lately.
It sounds decent from what I've done after following some mod tips here! But it looks/feels pretty cheap 😕
Lookin around online for inspiration, I really only see the Tofu Redux being used haha.
I was curious if anyone had some neat alternatives!? Or if I should resign myself to snag one myself
Been rummaging around online, but I'm not really the most experienced Keyboard enthusiast (if I can even be called that)
I'm kinda worried about compatibility, as I had to jerry rig my current case with a dremel for the cable to connect!
(Luckily you can only see the warped plastic if I unplug it🤫 )

For context I'm using the 60HE+ Module, and thank you in advance to anyone who responds!

[pastel vigil]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

I personally use a Freebird60

[quiet bay]

If u dont really have a budget Im using a klippe t case

There’s also the salvation case

I think its still on sale on Novelkeys rn

[pastel vigil]

the ultramarine looks so good

[quiet bay]

Im using e white 😋

[pastel vigil]

Fjell also tempting but all the colors I want are expensive af.

Good thing though they are out of stock lmao

[delicate flower]

Thank you for all the suggestions! And thank you @pastel vigil for that link!

It's all super helpful

[quiet bay]

Its also very heavy lok

Lol

Not recommended if ur traveling

[pastel vigil]

That's part of why it's tempting, mass = better sound profile to my eears

When I travel I take my laptop with me, not my keyboard

[timid pollen]

will these interfere with the hall sensors? (by the increased distance between the pcb and magnets in the switch)

[pastel vigil]

Yes.

It's minor ,but it's there. Barely any gain from using them, so I would pass.

But if you really want them, just set your actuation point to higher, you will probably have issues with 0.1mm and anything too low

[surreal blade]

wooting

[sweet oak]

Woot woot

[crimson crown]

what case is that

[surreal blade]

Tofu60 redux acrylic w raptor he switches

[brazen sparrow]

Are those the ceramic keycaps?

[surreal blade]

pom jelly clones on amazon

[molten breach]

The Wooting can draw a lot of power and the Hall-effect sensors have trouble if the provided voltage on USB is to low or unstable. So what matters is the voltage the device see.

The cable is only a part, that should have a low resistance when around on eamp is drawn. The port need to be able to provide enough power (that's why a USB 3.X is preferred. A USB port on the PC case isn't recommended because the cable used to connect the case with the mainboard header also adds resistance and so can drop the voltage to much. If a USB hub is used it should be an active one (one with an external power supply). Other devices connected to the same power source can also cause problems. Like if there are a lot of other power hungry devices are connected the VRM for the USB ports (not related to the PSU) may can't provide enough power for all. One time I saw the charging pulse of my Logitech Powerplay mouse on the LEDs of my Wooting.

[median spade]

Interesting interesting

It was also connected to TB3 port on my mobo so it's as good as it was going to get

But it was just out of curiousity more than anything as I was saying to tirade since I don't use rgb

[molten breach]

I would expect that can provide enough and has some over provisioning for a USB 2.0 device. Because that is officially limited to only 500 mA and so 2,5 W. But the Wooting as a lot of other keyboards with fancy bright RGB exceed that.

It can be that the port may can't provide much power. Like on a laptop it can be that is supposed to charge the laptop.

[pastel vigil]

I'm surprised I could connect my keyboard to my monitor with no issues.

[molten breach]

It can be fine but there can be problems. A Wooting on 100% brightness and with Tachyon enabled can draw a lot power.

[pastel vigil]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q-rev-1-0

Couldn't find the specs on the USB hub.

[pastel vigil]

I use it on 100% brightness with Tachyon with no issues.

[molten breach]

So your setup seems to provide enough power which is also stable enough.

But this is not the case for all. Especially third party coiled cables are known to cause issues, same for custom cables. These are often designed to be a thin cable which is not stiff and instead very flexible. These are more designed for old school input devices before the RGB hype kicked in when such devices didn't draw as much power.

[median spade]

But yeah I don't need RBB and just got this cable for how it looks and such anyways

so no skin off my bones

[pastel vigil]

Yeah I use the Wooting cable, no point in messing with other cables for me.

[shrewd thorn]

Hello, I just got myself a Wooting 60HE+ module with the Lekker L45 switches, A Tofu Redux with brass weight and some white pudding double shot PBT keycaps. I also got the lubing set available from Wooting's site. This will be my first custom keyboard and I want to make it "thock". Is there anything else I am missing and any tips yall can give me? Thanks in advance

[static tendon]

My tip would be to lube WASD first to see if you like it because it's fairly easy to overlube and watch a video while doing it to make sure you have everything on hand

[tawdry tree]

Talk about tight tolerances? Talk about awful tolerances on those keycaps, that is not okay. 😂

[tawdry tree]

If the PCB mounted TX APs aren’t under stress, there’s a lot of room for error.

[tawdry tree]

🧐

[tawdry tree]

The fact that many still think long pole stabilizers are necessary with the Jades is so disappointing. It’s a fairy tale that doesn’t get told anymore yet doesn’t get forgotten.

[tawdry tree]

The 80HE’s switch plate won’t put stress on TX APs and or Staebies as the cut outs are wider so that won’t be an issue. I would be good to state in #🪛│modding_faq how unnecessary long pole stabilizers are and that they should only be considered if the user plans on using 3rd party keycaps.

[tawdry tree]

The “brackets” don’t stress the stabilizer housings, the solid part on the outside does. It’s not necessary to remove the “brackets”. 🙂

[tawdry tree]

Staebies are definitely a no go, that’s accurate. Their housings are stronger than TX’s so there’s no leniency, none at all. They just get offset and combine that with the already tighter tolerances. 🙃

[stray tiger]

The FAQ already states they aren't usually necessary but the 60HE still exists so the issues will still be around even after the 80HE releases. As for the keycaps, they work great on my other boards and stabs but not on the TX ones. There is a reason a lot of people don't use them and the tolerances being too tight are why.

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/christopher-lloyd-1point21gigawatts-back-to-the-future-doc-gif-9470027

[tawdry tree]

Yeah of course, that’s the reason for the warning there. Are many keycap manufacturers’ tolerances out of spec so to say? I don’t collect keycaps personally so I don’t know.

[stray tiger]

I own about 50 sets and I've used TX stabs before but never ran into this issue. I tried with 2 different sets of PBTfans keycaps that work great on every other board I've used them on but neither set would work with the TX AP ones. I could try some more sets to verify and while having a keycap or two slightly out of spec happens, having the backspace, L shift, R shift and spacebar out of spec of two sets is nearly non-existent

The GMK set I threw on is definitely worn in so that helped for sure. I'll try some more PBT sets tomorrow, just got 3 new sets today

[tawdry tree]

Exactly, that’s what I would expect. I had a dirt cheap low quality keycap set that was entirely in spec. What I don’t understand is how it could be the stabilizers that cause this as you mentioned the keycaps put “stress” on them which is why they get stuck. Not the keycap pole getting stuck in the stabilizer housing.

A stabilizer’s “job” is to align its stem with the location in which it is seated. That’s it. The functionality of plate mounted stabilizers is influenced by the switch plate and keycaps. So unless all your stabilizer housings cause them to sit crooked within the switch plate, it shouldn’t, couldn’t be an issue with the stabilizers.

The functionally of PCB mounted stabilizers is influenced by the PCB and keycaps (switch plate too but shouldn’t be).

A misalignment in any of the factors can hinder the stabilizer’s functionality.

I can understand why a stabilizer with a lot more room for error (misalignment) can be preferable of course.

[pastel vigil]

I tested with both wooting caps and gmk caps and had issues with the stabs

But now am tempted to re-test and see if i missed anything

It's just so many moving parts. Do TX stabs cause issues on other boards?

[polar girder]

Stock stabs stay winning

[iron cipher]

Eh the modifiers pretty much stopped sticking, albeit a little sluggish, had to clean some lube off for it to be more responsive tho. Still ordered a new set of plate kit, gonna see if filing the cutouts a little wide would work better

[timid pollen]

is this a viable alternative to TX for jade switches?

[tawdry tree]

The silver ones, yes. Are you planning to use 3rd party keycaps on your Jades?

[timid pollen]

yes

[timid pollen]

but does this have the same fitment issue? or any other issues that i might be unaware of

[tawdry tree]

Okay, long pole stabilizers are only necessary if your keycaps are loose.

[tawdry tree]

No, Gateron stabilizers should fit perfectly fine without issue.

[timid pollen]

are they good tho?

[tawdry tree]

If you plan to change to 4mm travel distance switches later you will have to change out the stabilizers as well, or not but then the long pole stabilizers will limit the travel of those keys to 3.4mm. 😉

[tawdry tree]

They’re fine.

[timid pollen]

okay

[cerulean tartan]

can you guys recommend that case? https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41472688193675

[weary tree]

yes its a common choice

most people go for tofu or alumaze

i have it but im going to upgrade to salvation

[cerulean tartan]

are there any popular blank black keycaps? And should I upgrade the switches?

[cerulean tartan]

why excactly the salvation?

[weary tree]

it has leaf springs

better typing feel

got it while on discount

if you get tofu i recomment you do the gummy oring mount and lube the switches

if you want other switches the most popular are gateron jades and geon raptors

[solid pebble]

is wooting going to release blue coiled cable soon?

[dry pasture]

Hi. I would like to ask about the lekker switches. Does the L60 and L45 using the same stem? I am planning to mod the RaptorHe with L45 stem but Im not sure if it's the same as modding with L60 stems.

[dry pasture]

Iirc the yellow part on the L45 and green part on the L60

[tawdry tree]

Yes, the only difference between the two is their color and spring.

[dry pasture]

Thank you 🙏

[mystic pumice]

Anyone that know of a dirt cheap plastic case that fits the Wooting 60HE module? I am gonna order a 60HE+ and want to give my old module to a friend of mine but need a case

[tawdry tree]

You can probably find some on AliExpress but I really wouldn’t expect much from it.

[mystic pumice]

Even the KBDFans D60LITE case from AliExpress?

And how come 60% cases are so god damn rare in Europe? I search for 60% cases and I almost ONLY get the really really expensive ones like Tofu or Alumaze. But I get like thousands of weird 61, 62, 67, 68, 73, 77% etc type cases

[stray tiger]

Confirmed this morning with 2 additional sets of keycaps. These specific TX stabs are too exacting to work within normal tolerances with 4 different keycap sets.

[tawdry tree]

That’s almost everything in this hobby. Mostly Asia and NA.

Europe only has Woot. 🥲

[tawdry tree]

Not sure, check reviews maybe?

[mystic pumice]

But thank good for Wooting anyways

[mystic pumice]

I mean KDBFans are a well known brand right?

Or are they some really obscure and not known brand? (I am still new to this whole keyboard hobby, sorry)

[tawdry tree]

Are you sure? What would the cause be? That’s the thing that’s odd to me.

[tawdry tree]

They’re a well known brand but I don’t know if all their products are guaranteed to be good.

Or did you just mean if they were legit sellers or not?

[mystic pumice]

Both. I only know a few like Wooting and Keychron 😅

[tawdry tree]

KBDFans is a legit seller, but I do not know if that particular product is good.

As long as it’s compatible with GH60 it’ll work.

[stray tiger]

I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you asking what would make the TX stabs so exacting as to not allow for normal/expected tolerances when factoring in all of the things that could offset fitment by fractions of a millimeter?

I like how I mixed standard and metric together "fractions of a millimeter" lol

[mystic pumice]

Could I in theory buy a dirt cheap shitty keyboard from Amazon and just strip its parts and put the module into that?

[tawdry tree]

That’s exactly what I’m asking. As I don’t believe all of those sets would be out of spec. TX APs have room for error, be it small but for them to be under stress when used with a presumably in spec keycap wouldn’t make any logical sense. Unless the keycap pole is catching on the housing but I don’t believe that’s the case.

[tawdry tree]

Please don’t. 😂 There are cheap cases on AliExpress, which ships everywhere in Europe as far as I know.

Doesn’t take that long either.

[mystic pumice]

Aight will look into it

What about Etsy cases?

Some looked kinda good and had okay reviews

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think you’ll find a cheap case on Etsy but you can take a look.

[mystic pumice]

https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/listing/1223613287/the-solid-basic-wood-case-mechanical?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=gh60&ref=sr_gallery-1-25&pro=1&content_source=a2d5ec7334b0d4786c28460858d908c6a2efde3e%253A1223613287&organic_search_click=1

This one is like 40 bucks

[tawdry tree]

That’s pretty neat! If your friend likes wood and it’s in your budget it’s great.

[stray tiger]

There could be a number of things. One, the manufacturing of the stabs themselves. They are plastic and molds aren't exacting. For example this guy has tons of room in one of his stab housings - #🔧│keyboard_modding message and in my case, this set has next to no room. As in the stems have almost no room for movement in the housing, so any amount of shift at all, creates friction.

[mystic pumice]

Thanks for the help btw. Imma look more into it!

[stray tiger]

In a perfect world of exacting measurements, molds, materials, tolerances, etc, this would never be a problem, but the standard measurements used only go down to 10ths of a millimeter and not 100ths, and that leaves a lot of room for error

[tawdry tree]

What is odd to me is that your GMK caps, although worn, did work and your other PBT sets did not and that it is consistent with all the stabilizers rather than just one.

[stray tiger]

Not all the stabs, the enter key stab works fine.

Regardless of which cap used on it

If i were to take it out and inspect it closely I imagine it would be looser than the others.

[tawdry tree]

Interesting.

Have you used Wooting’s stock keycaps with them?

On them rather.*

[stray tiger]

I havewnt

[tawdry tree]

There was another person that had the same issue 3-4 months ago now.

With TX AP plate mounted stabilizers.

It’s interesting that (some of) your TX AP plate mounted stabilizers would seem to be tighter than the PCB mounted variants.

[stray tiger]

Yeah, to be clear, they make a good stab, BUT based on the feedback we have currently (and my own experience with about 6 different sets of TX stabs) are that the room for error is left so slim that people often run into issues that would not be a concern for most other stabs. There is a price to paid when making something intended to be exacting enough to reduce all chance of rattle/wobble,

[mystic pumice]

Wait the only thing I forgot is the cable for the 60HE. Will any USB C to USB work or will it need specific stuff?

[stray tiger]

Any quality cable under 6ft/2m should work fine

[mystic pumice]

Thanks king

[tawdry tree]

Well, the issue with the PCB mounts in combination with Wooting’s plate is entirely different. Other stabilizers are more forgiving than APs and Steabies especially.

[stray tiger]

"Other stabilizers are more forgiving than AP's and Staebies" is exactly what I'm saying. It's not just specific to the external housing dimensions but also the internal.

Im willing to go out on a limb and say that when alexotos releases his stabilizer ratings next week, he will not rate TX Ap or Staebies high on the list for that reason

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I understand that. All I’m saying is that in my opinion, it isn’t the stabilizer’s job to account for other components that are out of spec to a point where they misalign the stabilizers. Although completely different, an analogy would be wanting more stem wobble on your switches to account for other components that are out of spec. You know what I mean?

From a practical point, where you change components all the time, I completely understand that more forgiving stabilizers are preferable.

Not talking about Wooting’s plate here by the way. As that is not out of spec, but rather not compatible with TX & Stae.

[stray tiger]

I think you're confusing out of spec vs within expected tolerances. You're also not considering that the stabs themselves have manufacturing variances that could also cause this issue. Wire length, housing dimensions, stem dimensions, etc. Agains, it's mass produced molded plastic that's tumbled afterwards. You can make something that assumes all of the other pieces are also exact, but it will bite you in the ass and that's what happening here.

[tawdry tree]

Within expected tolerances would be different per manufacturer, however, there is a standard. If the stabilizers cause an issue because they themselves are out of spec then that manufacturer should really check their QC and allowed tolerances.

What if the issue was with the switch instead? The keycap pole was a bit off and the switch plate hole which caused the switch with tight tolerances to bind up, would the switch be at fault because it didn’t account for variable tolerances each component had?

[stray tiger]

I think you're getting it now. If everything was made to an exacting spec then you would never need to account for variance. However, since these specs are based on units of measurement that aren't exacting, you should consider that when making something that's a part of the chain. Switches, caps, stabs, etc should all be made with consideration of those tolerances. If you decide to ignore that, it might cause you some problems.

Again, that's also assuming the product you yourself make is able to be exacting (and we know that's also not the case here)

[tawdry tree]

I think each component should account for their own tolerance compared to the standard, that’s not what I think, that’s how it is. If any component is beyond it’s own room for error then that component is simply out of spec.

I disagree that a stabilizer should account for other components’ tolerances compared to the standard.

That’s it. 😃

[tawdry tree]

With this I meant that you wouldn’t hold switches to the same accountability so to say. 😉

[serene timber]

Sorry guys just a question
I bought the wooting 60 to France but i don’t now when is it comming
Can anyone explain me how many time to arrive ?

[mystic pumice]

On the website it says expected delivery mid april

They are still waiting to receive them to the warehouse

[serene timber]

Ok thank you G

[mystic pumice]

Passe une bonne journée

[spare mauve]

Im using jades in my 60he+ and they come prelubed. some youtubers / ppl here were saying the prelubing is pretty good and that they archive around 80% of handlubing. today i cleaned my keyboard and decided to handlube.. its a world of a difference. Sound is like 60% better and consistent now. Go and handlube your keyboard if not done yet!
Took me 2hours tho.. 🥲

[quiet bay]

Yup Hand lubing is always better

[spare mauve]

I knew it would be better but I didnt expect such a huge improvement at all

knowing that I have to do it for the 90 80he switches in summer makes me sad already

[quiet bay]

It's cause factory lubing can be good but also inconsistent

hand lubing them yourself will give a consistent feel to the switches !!

[quiet bay]

Good luck 🫡

[crimson crown]

does the tofu60 redux come with its own case foam

[median spade]

Ye

[stray tiger]

Ugh i need to stem swap and lube like 150 switches

Power was out for the last 2 hours and instead of being productive I was laying in bed on discord lol

[fluid ravine]

REAL

[polar girder]

lol stem swap and lube took me like 3 days

Did it in stages

[stray tiger]

yeah I might just get the disassembly done today and lube tomorrow during work meeting

[crimson crown]

i wonder are there any hall effect switches that are compatible with mx top housings

cause i'd totally swap in something like a ws morandi top housing on a hall effect switch if i could

but from what i hear lekkers specifically aren't compatible with mx top housings due to a slightly bigger stem

[stray tiger]

Yes thats the case

The magnets need space

[livid kettle]

hey guys i wanna ask someone. I want to order the keyboard, but keycaps arent interesting. Can someone recomend cool keycaps?

[crimson crown]

so wait are there any HE switches with a opaque top that have a hole for an led window

ok i can't seem to find a list of all aftermarket HE switches anyhow

[stray tiger]

Yes but the polarity isnt correct for the wooting without beta firmware and even then it's still not a great experience yet

[crimson crown]

would they work with stem swaps

[stray tiger]

Not in this case, they are box stems

[crimson crown]

what is a box stem

[stray tiger]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806330674426.html

[crimson crown]

are those kinds of stems mx compatible or no

[stray tiger]

yes they are

[crimson crown]

drat though

theyve got incompatible top housings

i might just stick with getting lekker v2s then when they happen

[pastel vigil]

ooo where will this be posted?

[stray tiger]

On his site. He posted his switch ratings 2 weeks ago

https://www.alexotos.com/

[quiet bay]

Thank u @polar girder for sending me spare parts he didnt need

[polar girder]

Might try to bend some of the fins on the cooler back straight. Might have been bumped around a bit

[median spade]

U14s?

[stray tiger]

Thats why the modding channel is the best channel

[mystic pumice]

Shiiii anyone else with spare parts in Europe? I am about to build a PC for a friend with a tight budget of 750 bucks.

Not necessary but anything would be crazy and highly appreciated

[harsh dove]

I have spare parts but not in Europe