🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

Don’t tell me about it. 😞

😂😂

[midnight rock]

XD

If only

[craggy cipher]

XDA profile

[vestal rain]

Does the Wooting need special keycaps or can I just use different ones and it will work with the actuation point and stuff?

[spiral canyon]

As long as they have cross/mx stem and 6.25u spacebar, they'll work #🪛│modding_faq message

[vestal rain]

Thanks!

[indigo oasis]

@fluid ravine would this do?

[polar girder]

For what?

Back side of the PCB?

[indigo oasis]

switch tape mod

[uncut root]

Is that bandage wrap?

😭

I mean, whatever works.

[polar girder]

That looks like moleskin

You want paper tape

[indigo oasis]

where can i buy

[polar girder]

https://www.amazon.com/Nexcare-Gentle-Securing-Dressings-Carded/dp/B09R6YLX8T/ref=asc_df_B09R6YLX8T/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=647177214912&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16029113549836286438&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016851&hvtargid=pla-1731127778304&psc=1&mcid=eb6088727edf3c47b7186876f0910df4

[shrewd dragon]

use electrical tape or painters tape

Duct tape if u wanna have it forever

[indigo oasis]

Kk

[shrewd dragon]

Dont do Ducttape

[uncut musk]

this, dont use electrical or painters tape for switch tape mod

[indigo oasis]

oh

[weary tree]

Switch tape mod

Noy tape mod

2 different things

[shrewd dragon]

mb

[bleak ginkgo]

how do you fix the tofu60 redux usb c connection, mine keeps getting disconnected when i move the cable slightly

do i just need to move the module higher up the case?

[tawdry tree]

If you can I’d try that.

and make sure the USB C thingy on the Tofu aligns with the USB C on the PCB

I know you can move it left or right with a screw.

[minor mist]

how much can i lower this cap tecnically with out affecting utilization and performance?

[devout torrent]

am I the only one who just noticed #wooting_60he channel is gone

[wind karma]

i think

[still zenith]

👀

[tawdry tree]

Not deleted but only accessible by moderators. The read-only achieved channels like the #lekkerswitch are hidden now too.

😤😤😤

Reason being:

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-who-knows-gif-17348455

[devout torrent]

all that stuff gone I cry

cant even find old things with search rip

should at least be readable/searchable

[tawdry tree]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1215245679895777351

[tawdry tree]

exactly

I can’t stand it

[wispy thistle]

It feels like it’s somewhat slanted because of how the ring is more protruded in some spots due to stabs is this normal or will affect sound negatively

[harsh dove]

Normal which is why I went back to my clip ins

In my tofu build

Slant annoyed me

Has no room to shift it/move it either

Just goes back to being slanted

[wispy thistle]

Ohh with clip in stabs it won’t tilt?

Did you use tx ap long pole clip ins or tx ap clip ins

[wispy thistle]

Does the slant affect sound at all?

[harsh dove]

Regular tx ap clip ins and yes it does

[wispy thistle]

Ah crap

Thanks

[wispy thistle]

May I see a top down view of your kb when you get the chance. No worries if not

[wispy thistle]

Thanks 🙏 yea looks a lot better

[agile grove]

can confirm, im using clip ins on my backspace and there isnt any slant

[wispy thistle]

https://www.amazon.com/Zkeebs-TX-Mechanical-Keyboard-Stabilizers/dp/B0CJ87Q152 this is teh correct one?

[agile grove]

yeah, but seems pretty overpriced

[wispy thistle]

on divinkeys is 18

[agile grove]

I think most people get them from there

[stray tiger]

I did warn people not to use screw-ins because you might run into this and potential issues getting the PCB in and out easily.

[wispy thistle]

oh your only using clip ins on the backspace and screw ins for the rest?

[agile grove]

yea

[wispy thistle]

didnt see that one 😬 woops i think when i asked i was told screw in have better tolerances and less mods required. im not sure if thats still true. but if is. i probably prefer doing what luigi did and just a clip in for the backspace.

[agile grove]

actually its the other way around, TX AP stabs have tighter tolerances and therefore require a bit less tuning.

[wispy thistle]

yea thats what im using screw in tx ap stabs

[agile grove]

oh gotcha

thought you were referring to stock stabs

[wispy thistle]

i was told tx ap screw ins have better tolerances than tx ap clip ins

@agile grove do i just need 2U then since i just need one backspace clip in?

[agile grove]

yea

[wispy thistle]

ok thanks

[wispy thistle]

the module doesnt come with pe foam right should i get this https://stupidfish.design/products/tofu60-2-0-pe-foam using a tofu redux

[agile grove]

the module comes with case foam

that also looks to be for the plate, the module comes with plate foam aswell

[wispy thistle]

oh i think the pe foam is in between the the switch and the pcb

[wispy thistle]

right the plate foam has cutouts for the switches tho, so there is nothing in between the switch and pcb i think?

[harsh dove]

They’re the same honestly

If I had to nit pick, I’d actually say my Clip Ins fit the plates for my Wooting better than the screw ins

[wispy thistle]

gotcha thanks

[agile grove]

there isnt, but you could just get switch pads

[wispy thistle]

yea just wasnt sure if there is any sound difference from pe vs poron

[harsh dove]

KDBFans plates comes with switch pads which I’m actually using on my salvation, they’re not bad

Change the sound a tiny bit I feel like

[tawdry tree]

It comes with a switch pad right

That sits over the PCB

I remember someone posting it and everyone said “that’s def not compatible with wooting”.

[agile grove]

no need to call me out

[tawdry tree]

It mans actually I think

[agile grove]

mansen and I both said it wasnt compatible

[wispy thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorB0q9QImw&ab_channel=LilShoosh this video you linked to compare to your tofu build is actually the sound im going for. he uses pe foam and you use plate poron foam and switch pads which are also poron(i think). but he also uses alu plate and im using pc plate so thats a big difference. but yea thats why i was debating between poron plate + switch pads or just using pe foam.

but yea both this build and your build i liked. but will have to see how it sounds irl.

not sure if poron will sound more muted

[harsh dove]

The one from KDBFans?

[agile grove]

yh

[harsh dove]

Oh interesting

Works with mine

I will point out that it is designed for plate mount stabs

But still works with my clip ins

Just damages the foam a bit

[wispy thistle]

wait your only using it on the switches with stabs? you didnt put it on every switch>?

[harsh dove]

??

[wispy thistle]

nvm i read it wrong

[harsh dove]

It covers the entire PCB

Yeah it’s not individual pads

[wispy thistle]

wait what i thought switch pads are like the individual ones

[agile grove]

they are

[harsh dove]

There are ones like that yes

[agile grove]

KBDfans plates come with a pad that does effectively the same thing but covers the entire pcb

[harsh dove]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-hot-swap-switch-pad

[wispy thistle]

ohh

[harsh dove]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-switches-pads-2-versions

[fluid ravine]

Hi hi

Hi CAM

[harsh dove]

Different versions, does the same thing

Wassup

[fluid ravine]

Wsg

Got a friend over rn lmao

[harsh dove]

Just chillin at work

[fluid ravine]

ah hows that

doing nothing rn?

Sup aligner

[tawdry tree]

it was more like they didn’t know it was made for the woot just a switch pad for a different board which makes sense

[wispy thistle]

is that middle one pe foam?

[agile grove]

that wouldnt fit the 60he

[harsh dove]

Would also like to clarify the links I posted are also not Wooting compatible

[wispy thistle]

oh thats tenkeyless

[harsh dove]

Just used for explanation

[wispy thistle]

gothca

[untold wigeon]

CAM!!!

[harsh dove]

Wassup

my custom plates finally shipped

Guess they were waiting on an shipment of aluminum for my order so I had to wait longer than expected

[untold wigeon]

figured out what oring would cost to ship to sweden yet:/

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah thanks for reminding me

Hold on

[thick mural]

i wish they had iso

[untold wigeon]

for sure

[harsh dove]

$3 thru my company

[feral timber]

What your website if you dont me asking

[harsh dove]

My website?

[feral timber]

ah i see you wrote company and i assume you have a website but nvm lol

[harsh dove]

lol I mean we do have a website but not for shipping

I get discounts on shipments thru my company tho , so I was seeing how much it’d cost to ship something for one of the members here

[idle pier]

tried the friction mount today with the gummy oring i bought on ali for dirt cheap, works really nicely in the alumaze although I dont feel that big of a difference. still a nice improvement for 2 euros

[wispy thistle]

where did you get custom plates smkeyboards?

[minor mist]

i dont have any bending on my wooting two he, would you say i get bending removing the bottom case? i am asking to understand how much i have to support the bottom plate so theres no flexing, even though everything will be very tight, and almost bottom out in the table, with only 2 mm height on the back.

from my understanding the pcb its pretty sturdy right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah but Hypekeyboards is also a good option

[minor mist]

accouting that it has the upper metal plate on aswell

[weak fulcrum]

I just got my module and it has a warning to only mount switches north facing, I was planning on going with south because I got cherry profile caps. It should be fine with south facing right?

[idle pier]

yeah almost everyone in the modding community mounts them south facing without any issues

i have jades mounted south facing and it works perfectly fine

[wispy thistle]

when i did north facing the rgb was like bleeding thru the keycap in a weird way. is that a keycap prob? i got nicepbt sweather weather

[weak fulcrum]

got jades as well, thanks

[wispy thistle]

yea i put my jades in south cus the keycap looked weird with rgb when it was north

[idle pier]

i would have assumed the opposite? but interesting

cause i have them south facing and a lot of the rgb spectrum is just blocked cause of the housing

compared to l45s

[untold wigeon]

it should be the opposite

[wispy thistle]

Is that north or south

That’s south right?

[quiet bay]

yes your switches are facing south

[wispy thistle]

yea the tab was the only one i accidently put north. see how the rgb is like bleeding thru

[idle pier]

yes that's because of the housing of the jades, kinda annoying

[harsh dove]

WootingPCB has north facing LEDs hence why it recommends putting the switches in north facing.
There used to be an old issue with GMK or Cherry Profile keycaps and north facing switches that would cause a keycap interference.
That is no longer an issue as molds have changed to account for it.
Putting in your switches south facing will not damage your board, however it will reduce the RGB effects.

[wispy thistle]

mine is pbt dye sub cherry, did they not account for it with my mold or something

[harsh dove]

This happens with all non bleed thru, light colored keycaps

Happens on my white GMKs too

[wispy thistle]

oh ok

[harsh dove]

But dark colored keycaps it won’t show

[wispy thistle]

well gald i can just do south facing then lol

[weak fulcrum]

my space bar is getting stuck on the bottom out, did i need a different stab for jades?

[idle pier]

oh very good to know, i'm gonna swap the direction of my switches to look less dumb and actually have rgb that looks nice

[shell crown]

Yep, casual issues

[young hatch]

I just got my alumaze60 case. Its wonderful. However, i think it would be a brilliant idea for wooting to make different colors of the gold/brass insert on the left hand side. It could be a separate purchasable accessory with different color options. Just a thought as the gold/brass insert may not suit everyones taste. Also, the piece is already removable and in theory hot swappable. Just a thought

[weary tree]

they did say theya re working on it

[young hatch]

LIT. I missed that. I heckin love wooting

[tawdry tree]

Backspace’s Oasis 75 comes with KS-20Us in white! 😦

So for those who don’t like the orange, patience.

[polar girder]

That’s hot

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-thats-hot-cool-amazed-gif-13488740

[polar girder]

I’m holding out for lekker 2.0’s tho

Hopefully it’s actually something noteworthy and not just another rebranded gateron

It’s ok if gateron makes it. But you get my point lol

[quiet bay]

I'm keeping my lekker60s to get ceramic keycaps and then get a better mouse and etc 😌

[tawdry tree]

I doubt it will be Gateron.

[polar girder]

That would be even cooler

Gateron doesn’t deserve their business IMO

[polar girder]

Yeah you got the lekkers sounding/feeling good lol

I’m happy I bought the l45’s even if only for the spring lol

[harsh dove]

Looks like they went with the same stem as the KS20u Peaches

Oh wait

[fluid ravine]

😂

me with my 3rd grade reading

[polar girder]

lol

[rare obsidian]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[harsh dove]

What stabs and what plate are you using?

[lost badge]

okk guys i have everything ready what should i start first

[quiet bay]

lube switches first

[lost badge]

i did

[quiet bay]

o wow

uhh

tune stabs?

[lost badge]

not yet

i want switch to poron

[quiet bay]

oo ok

[lost badge]

do i need to remove all the screws at the back

[rare obsidian]

All 8 I believe

[quiet bay]

yeah

to put the poron foam in

[lost badge]

wait i see more than 8

[quiet bay]

since ur using gummy mount silicone wont fit at all

[lost badge]

only the big ones right

[rare obsidian]

Yep

[lost badge]

aighttt tks

should i lube tx ap stab first and put it in or try the stock stab first?

[harsh dove]

Well if you're doing gummy mount, testing the stock stabs doesn't really matter does it?

Gonna have to remove them anyway for clip ins to do gummy mount

[lost badge]

oh wait trueee screw in doesnt work

[harsh dove]

Unless you're only replacing the backspace and spacebar with clip ins

then can leave the rest as screw ins

[lost badge]

which should i do

[harsh dove]

I personally just replace them all cause I like having the same stabs personally

[lost badge]

okk im just gonna replace them all then

[harsh dove]

Hope she’s okay lmao

Most likely is

Just PC

[sacred elm]

guys are jades actuation exactly 0.1? or its 0.2 because of closed bottom?

[harsh dove]

They work at 0.1 and closed bottom doesn’t affect starting actuation, only end, which is 3.5mm instead of 4mm

[sacred elm]

oh yea right

ive heard they are 0.2 tho but i guess not

cam u use jades?

[fluid ravine]

He uses peachs and jades

2 seperate

[sacred elm]

peachs?

[fluid ravine]

KS-20U

[sacred elm]

which one has better sound?

[fluid ravine]

personal preference

[sacred elm]

more thocky?

[fluid ravine]

Peaches

[sacred elm]

hmm

[fluid ravine]

Jades has the long pole sound profile

Cus of the closed bottom out

[sacred elm]

i hope lekker v2 will be on same level or maybe better

[fluid ravine]

Hope the lekker v2 comes in different material

like nylon

or what not

[polar girder]

YEA

SAME

no closed bottom

Maybe box stem tho

Idk

What’s most thocky switch ?

[fluid ravine]

Box stem

[polar girder]

Non-HE

[fluid ravine]

u4t?

idk

lol

[sacred elm]

im just waiting for their announcement about lekker v2

to see whats changed exactly

[fluid ravine]

lost all sense of normal keeb switches and all that

[fluid ravine]

finna be in a year

(joke)

[sacred elm]

maybe next video?

[fluid ravine]

most likely not

[sacred elm]

sadge

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[sacred elm]

i mean if theyre changing current switches

it cant be bad surely

[lost badge]

i only need to lube 1 side of the wire only roight

[polar girder]

U4t

https://customkbd.com/products/snack60

60HE COMPATIBLE?!??

Man I want like all version of every material

Like pc plate, pc case, pc keycaps

And aluminum and Pom and acrylic

[fluid ravine]

WEH?

[normal schooner]

[lost badge]

im having trouble assembling the stab:( any tip

[fluid ravine]

gasket mounted?

[polar girder]

Yeah

Dz60

[fluid ravine]

but plate

well

gotta build custom plate now

:D

[polar girder]

Truuuu

Yo cam

[fluid ravine]

CAMMM...

You mind..

hehe-\

[polar girder]

Just buy some more plate bro. Nbd

[fluid ravine]

i dont like how i can see the gaskets

[polar girder]

Trouble how

[lost badge]

cant put the wire in lol

[fluid ravine]

Is the orientation of the stem and housing correct?

[lost badge]

its like this

[fluid ravine]

the holes on the stem, is it orientated correctly with the housing?

[polar girder]

Putting the wire in the right spot ?

[fluid ravine]

Wait

[polar girder]

Like can you slide it in but not hook it in place?

[fluid ravine]

well actually it doesnt matter cus if you put it in wrong it wont go in

nvm

[lost badge]

like i can slide it into to the hole the stem but i see people saying it should be click in or sth but mine just fall off

[polar girder]

Click the wire in to the stab

After the 90* angle it should hold in place

But those stabs are clip-ins look like and I haven’t used those yet I guess so idk

[fluid ravine]

Just needs to clip the wire into the housing

[lost badge]

yes clip-in

[fluid ravine]

You can assemble the Stabs normally but the mount is different

[polar girder]

Do you understand what needs to happen and you can’t get it to work or does it just not make sense?

[fluid ravine]

You need the wire to clip into the hook of the housing

should hear a click

[polar girder]

Yeah it’ll hold in place

Even if only one side at a time

[lost badge]

so after i put it into the stem hole, then i push down to click it in?

[polar girder]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

yes

So you're putting it in correctly but you havent cliped it

last pic

should make sense

[polar girder]

Yeah push it down until it clicks in place

[fluid ravine]

should look like this

[polar girder]

Which is tricky with tiny wire and grease lol

But yeah

[fluid ravine]

need to relube mine

lol

[lost badge]

do i push down the stem or the wire

[fluid ravine]

wire

[lost badge]

oomng its in

why need so much force

lol

[polar girder]

Lolz

Gg

[lost badge]

my hand is red now

[fluid ravine]

lol

[polar girder]

Thin skin

[fluid ravine]

thinnnnnnnnnn

thin as iceeeeeeeee

https://tenor.com/view/walking-fall-in-the-water-out-control-out-of-balance-too-heavy-gif-16666908

[lost badge]

also only lube 1 side of the wire right?

[polar girder]

Both sides that go in to the stab

[lost badge]

oh okk

[polar girder]

But not the long side

[lost badge]

okayy got it

[polar girder]

Don’t lube the 90* part

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8
follow this guide

[polar girder]

Just the straight small part

Yeah that video

Watch it

[fluid ravine]

The only guide you need

[polar girder]

Even tho he doesn’t show you how to take apart or put them together lol

[polar girder]

Not true

[fluid ravine]

yeah ik

[polar girder]

He starts with them in pieces

[fluid ravine]

was gonna say smth

😂

[polar girder]

I had to watch a diff video to learn how to take them apart

😹

[fluid ravine]

Lubing guide you need*

😂

[polar girder]

I need a better syringe

The fat one I got from hardware store just stuffed way too much grease in there

Too fat. No control

[fluid ravine]

used my krytox syringe

[polar girder]

I have no Syringe

[fluid ravine]

Almost used all my krytox so i transfered it to a small jar

[lost badge]

oikk click the wire in is gonna be the hardest part

[fluid ravine]

Is that part dry?

The wire and the housing clip for the wire?

[lost badge]

i greased the wire

and lubed the housing

why people snap it in so ez @@

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

[tawdry tree]

Was it sent in an bubble wrap envelope?

[frail warren]

Hey everyone, I am considering buying a 80HE Module instead of the already built one.

Do you happen to know what my switch options will be for the module and what switches already comes in the preassembled version?

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V2, L45 or L60 versions (come with preassembled). Jades switches and most likely KS-20U switches too.

[rare obsidian]

I just bought a pack of jades, if you prefer a lighter switch, go for it.

[tawdry tree]

L45 and Jades share the same springs iirc

[rare obsidian]

30g vs 45g

i believe.

[frail warren]

Big noob when it comes to modding - what does L45 and L60 mean? I googled and not a ton came back lol

By Jades switches and KS-20U - those you believe will be avaliable when I do my first pre-order

[tawdry tree]

Nah

[rare obsidian]

L stands for Lekker
45 stands for the 45g spring weight, same for 60.

[tawdry tree]

It means the weight/actuation force. L60 have a 60g end force and L45s a 45g end force.

[frail warren]

Got it, makes sense! In general what weight/actuation force are blue switches typically?

gives me an idea for what I might be looking for

[tawdry tree]

Lekker L45 and L60 switches and Jades switches will be available, maybe KS-20U switches too.

[frail warren]

By jades switches, is this what you mean? https://divinikey.com/products/kailh-box-jade-thick-switches

[tawdry tree]

There’s standard for that, you shouldn’t really look at colors of switches as they can be deceiving sometimes.

[rare obsidian]

gateron jades.

[frail warren]

roger

[tawdry tree]

No, the magnetic Jades.

[frail warren]

oh

ah gateron still

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[frail warren]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?variant=44792748343519 and this is the MAYBE KS-20U?

[tawdry tree]

Correct.

[rare obsidian]

jades are 30gf according to their spec sheet.

[frail warren]

Got it, thanks - I will do my own research regarding sound on which one I will prefer to hear for 5 years lmao but I play games competitively, if you had advice for which felt the more "snappy" between the 4 (jades, KS-20U, and the L45/L60) which would you rec?

[tawdry tree]

Starting force, yeah.

L45s too.

[tawdry tree]

Well, we don’t have sound tests for the Lekker that will come with the 80HE as those will be the Lekker V2 switches.

[stray otter]

I didn't think these were out yet

[tawdry tree]

They aren’t officially.

[weak fulcrum]

pc plate stock he+ module stabs

[tawdry tree]

A keyboard comes with them already though.

[stray otter]

Which one? The new KBD one?

[tawdry tree]

No, Backspace’s Oasis 75HE

[frail warren]

hmmm but weight/force wise, which would be more "snappy" just based on that?

I am reading reviews on wootings website people seem to love the Lekker switches, esp the L45

[stray otter]

Hmm. Interesting. I might consider these switches for the 80HE if I decide to preorder

[frail warren]

if I am going to go with the L45, there isn't really much to "customize" then right? and I should go with prebuilt?

thanks for all the help btw

[tawdry tree]

Again, I’m not sure the KS-20Us will be sold/available from Wooting but I presume they will.

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, what do you mean by snappy?

[polar girder]

lol

[tawdry tree]

Snappy isn’t a sound, it’s feel I think? All Gateron’s Magnetic switches feel snappy.

[frail warren]

hahaha good question, I guess.. you feel more in control/faster trigger? Assuming the lightest switch will give the feeling of "snappy"

are the lekkers not magnetic too?

[tawdry tree]

Only magnetic switches are compatible.

[rare obsidian]

if you are buying a wooting you will need Hall Effect/Magnetic Switches.

[tawdry tree]

Well, if you set your actuation point to 0.15mm, again, all switches would feel snappy. 🤣

[frail warren]

very true, never experienced it before lmao

[frail warren]

so yes, lekkers have to be magnetic 🤣

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, they are.

[frail warren]

So Aligner, if I decide to go with the L2 45 switches, should I just get a preassembled one then?

[tawdry tree]

It can be useful for some games but it’s very difficult to type with.

[frail warren]

what else could I customize?

[tawdry tree]

I would, yes. Especially if preorder it during the founder’ campaign. You get a lot more with the preassembled version than with the Module.

[rare obsidian]

besides a travel case

[frail warren]

I'm sold, thanks ❤️

super helpful

[tawdry tree]

From Wooting directly? Just switches, keycaps and case but the last two would be with the Module.

[tawdry tree]

🤣

[lost badge]

do i put the stabilizer on to the pcb first or the plate first?

[hazy citrus]

which board do you have

[lost badge]

module

[hazy citrus]

the 60he+ or the non +

[lost badge]

60he+

[polar girder]

If it’s screw in or clip in the the PCB

If it’s plate mount then there ya go

[hazy citrus]

yeah so that one u install the stabs then the plate

[lost badge]

ok they are pcb mount

so i just clip in to the pcb then

[hazy citrus]

screw in

but ya

[lost badge]

if i gummy mount it

i just put it in between the plate and pcb right

[hazy citrus]

i've never done that so im not sure

[lost badge]

ohh after i put the plate and pcb together then i install switches right

[hazy citrus]

correct

the switches will clip into the plate

[lost badge]

aightt thanks

[rare obsidian]

i assume you are referring to burger mounting?
this is when you use two o-ring on either side of the pcb's mounting holes.
1 o-ring on the stand off, 1 under the screw head- between the screw head and the pcb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPX6gYSxyU
wooting actually has a video on this.

[polar girder]

No

[lost badge]

no im not

[polar girder]

Yeah out all the switches in first

[hazy citrus]

nah gummy o ring mount

[polar girder]

Then put the o-ring around in between the PCB and the plate

Then go usb end in first to case and try to slide it in smooth

[lost badge]

im so scared the stab might not fit

it looks tight

[hazy citrus]

if it's the stock plate and stock stabs it will

they should be kinda snug

[lost badge]

nah its tx ap stab

[hazy citrus]

oh yeah idk

[wispy thistle]

which ones?

screw in or clip in

[lost badge]

clip in

im doing gummy mount

[wispy thistle]

yea other people in here did it fine with tx ap clip ins

[hazy citrus]

oh u gotta install plate first then

[wispy thistle]

i just did it with tx ap screw ins and its kinda slanted

[lost badge]

ya havent installed it yet

having dinner now

but it looks tight to me

[wispy thistle]

im in a tofu redux tho also idk if that makes a diff

probably does

[lost badge]

i also have a tofu redux hahaa

[lost badge]

is it normal to bend like this?

[static tendon]

It’s not fully seeded in. You’ll need to push the plate upwards gently

[lost badge]

oh okkk thank u

[static tendon]

Is this the steel plate or pc plate?

[lost badge]

pc plate

[static tendon]

If it’s steel you may have the remove all the switches and bend it back manually. If it’s the pc you can just re-adjust and it should pop in normally

@lost badge feel free to let me know how it goes

[lost badge]

definitely

i need to push the ring in right?

or just put it in the case now

[fluid ravine]

Sry just a quick video, I dont got nitro so i cant really do a fulll explaination

[lost badge]

wait i dont even see your ring

[fluid ravine]

the general idea to installing the module with the gummy oring is just having it tucked into the module while inserting, there shouldnt be any piece of oring sticking out

[fluid ravine]

look at my module

between the plate and pcb

the pink ring

[lost badge]

do u use poron foam

[fluid ravine]

no i dont use plate foam

i use to

its possible, its a bit tighter to install and take out but still can be done the same

the second vid is just to show how fast you could possibly do it with enough practice

[fluid ravine]

The first vid is just based on this

[lost badge]

oh wait so the oring is sticking out on the module but not after the module is in the case?

[fluid ravine]

yeah, you can put it like taht

should be fully tucked in

shouldnt be sticking out above the plate

[lost badge]

okokk got it

thank u

also i hear some vietnamese is that right haha

[fluid ravine]

yeah my mom watching facebook

[lost badge]

lmao okk

gonan put it int he case and lets see

[lost badge]

so smooth

lol

any tip to put it in the case

bruh i cant

[fluid ravine]

Ok start of from inserting the top and either one of the sides

[lost badge]

left side kinda in now

[fluid ravine]

ok now work in the right side

you can leave the bottom sticking out

cus you need both sides in so you can do the bottom last

do that and tell me how it goes

[lost badge]

port is not straight

[fluid ravine]

did you inserted the module already?

lemme see

check the oring as well

[lost badge]

the right side and bottom :(( still trying

[fluid ravine]

lmaoo

just push the oring in

with your thumb

should be good to go from there

its a minor mistake

[lost badge]

okkk im pushing it with the brush

[fluid ravine]

Dont really need to use a brush but sure

[lost badge]

done

is this good?

[fluid ravine]

perfect! niceu niceu

[lost badge]

the port shift to the right

lemme take a pic again

[fluid ravine]

oh thats not good i think

what case do you have?

[fluid ravine]

redux i suppose

[lost badge]

tofu 60 redux

[fluid ravine]

is the port set to W

?

[lost badge]

what does that mean lol

idk

[fluid ravine]

ah shi

you might wanna check

[lost badge]

uh oh

[fluid ravine]

inside the case where the port is

there's a switch for the port

D and W

[lost badge]

bruhh really

rip

[fluid ravine]

D is for DZ60 PCB and W for Wooting

[lost badge]

so now i need take the module out?

[fluid ravine]

since the original tofu had alignment issues, kbdfans decided to make a switch for this matter

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[lost badge]

damnn

how to take it out now hahaha

[fluid ravine]

are you using plate foam?

[lost badge]

yes

[fluid ravine]

ah fk

[lost badge]

uh oh

[fluid ravine]

wanna hop on https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/167181566978555905

[lost badge]

ya sure

[fluid ravine]

kk

[chilly kestrel]

I just brought a wooting 60he+ if i was to at a later date purchase a Alumaze60, i would be able to take the case off of my 60he+ and put the alumaze60 on yes?

[golden shore]

Is this confirmed to work? Also will the sound be similar?

[fluid ravine]

not so hard as before eh?

[lost badge]

yup hahaa

lot faster

[fluid ravine]

thats good! you will get the hang of it much quicker

[lost badge]

ah shit backspace nad spacebnar r kinda mushy

[fluid ravine]

oh?

what stabs?

[lost badge]

tx ap clips in

[fluid ravine]

@tawdry tree yo is it the plate tolerance thing?

[lost badge]

or i might have lubed it too much

im not sure

stabs were the most annoying part to do

[fluid ravine]

I dont have much knowledge on this but there was reports on tx ap stabs not being able to fit or the plate tightness causes the housing to be pressed in which makes the stab mushy

[fluid ravine]

are the other stabs fine?

[lost badge]

ya all stasbs are mushy

[fluid ravine]

you just lubed them right?

[lost badge]

lubed and greased yup

[fluid ravine]

Oh then just break them in

spam the modifiers to make the lube and grease break in

[lost badge]

oh okk

[fluid ravine]

it will become less mushy

yeah yeah

the worst thing that could happen as of right now would be the plate tolerance bs issue

[lost badge]

pls dont

[fluid ravine]

hopefully, that would be very unfortunate

[lost badge]

anww thanks for your help

[fluid ravine]

no problemo

[tawdry tree]

🫣

[tawdry tree]

Mushy as in their upstroke is slowed but useable? Or their upstroke is slowed to a point where it’s unusable or very annoying to use?

[lost badge]

usable

its come back up

[tawdry tree]

Okay, does it come back up somewhat quickly?

Or much slower than your other keys?

[lost badge]

just a bit slower

it not stuck like many vids i lve seen

but def can feel the difference

[tawdry tree]

what I’d to is just to use it a bit for now, see if it gets any better. I don’t think it’s just because of the lube slowing its upstroke unless you were really generous. 😉

[lost badge]

i lubed the housing

dont know how much is too much tho 🥲

im on my bed now but i can record a vid tmr

[tawdry tree]

If it looks like a coat you it’s good, if it looks like a puffer jacket it’d be considered too much/overlubing.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah of course, if you tag me in it I’ll see it.

[lost badge]

ohh i was struggling with clipping the wire into the housing

the grease might got on the housing

idk if it would affect it or not

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, which lube and or grease did you use?

Lube and grease?

[lost badge]

205 for housing

xht bdz for wire

[tawdry tree]

If you could take two pictures like these tomorrow it’ll be easier for me to tell if there’s an issue.

#1202064549092794378 message

[lost badge]

oh ya sure i will

[tawdry tree]

Oh, nice. I doubt grease would’ve got in between the stem and housing of the stabilizer. You might just find that grease gives it a mushy feel.

[lost badge]

too much grease? idk i will show u a pic of that tmr as well

[tawdry tree]

Many use lube and grease for TX’s APs too but I personally only use lube, for the wire too.

[tawdry tree]

All good!

[lost badge]

oh interesting cuz i heard from many that its good to have sth thick for the wires

[chrome vault]

is jade the lowest travel switch I can put in a wooting?

Or is there something shorter

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that’s true although from my experience as TX’s APs are tighter compares to cherry’s they don’t need the thick grease. But many use grease for TX’s too so it’s not a problem at all.

[lost badge]

okayy good to hear but ya I will def send you those pics tmr

[tawdry tree]

If you combine Jades with travel stoppers/limiters you can have whatever travel you want.

[chrome vault]

Could you link me a good quality stopper? I haven’t heard of those and idk what kind would work

[tawdry tree]

Alright, good night to you. 👍

[lost badge]

thanks good night

[chrome vault]

And limiter if needed

[tawdry tree]

Only ones making them are HID Labs, but not sure if they ship everywhere.

[chrome vault]

How do they work?

[tawdry tree]

I made it sound like a common product which it really isn’t.

[chrome vault]

It won’t cause my keys to bottom out right

[tawdry tree]

Let me get you a picture. Moment.

[chrome vault]

Okay

[tawdry tree]

https://shop.hid-labs.com/product/spacer-pom-pack/#tab-description

https://youtu.be/rab795haTmY?si=WMUVT0dVd04qM9C9

[tawdry tree]

Jades are, Jades with stoppers would be as low as can get.

[chrome vault]

How low could I get it? It looks like that spacer is 3mm?

I was hoping for around 2-3mm travel

[tawdry tree]

They have many different thickness stoppers, you can stack them together to reach any travel distance you want.

[chrome vault]

how hard is it open the switches and add those stoppers

I don’t normally mod switches

Just swap them

[tawdry tree]

Very easy if you have a switch opener. Very hard if you don’t.

[chrome vault]

I should be happy with just jades I guess

They’re 3.6mm right

That pack also doesn’t look like it has enough for all the keys

[crimson sky]

not sure if you can fit stoppers in the jades

but also they make stupid long stoppers

[tawdry tree]

Yes, Raptor HE switches come from the same mold as LTP’s White/Pink Magnetic switches. They’re twins, however, the magnets in the LTP’s have an orientation not compatible with Wooting boards so you can’t use them by themselves.

[potent wedge]

Is PC switch plate compatible with tx ap stabilizer?

[tawdry tree]

They have different packs. I think shipping is more an issue.

[chrome vault]

What’s with raptor switches anyway? I’ve heard they’re a little better somehow than lekkers and jades but I don’t see why they would be

[chrome vault]

yeah :/

I ordered an artisan zero a while ago and they take forever to arrive

[tawdry tree]

I think they would fit in, getting them out though. 😉

[crimson sky]

they might

idk what that says tho

[chrome vault]

What are raptors tho

[crimson sky]

they got stronger magnets

[tawdry tree]

Yeah I saw that but I would only recommend them for Jades as they’d fall out if you take out open bottom switches. And the thickness doesn’t account for the space between the PCB and the switch.

[crimson sky]

which means they (unintendetly) pull the activation curve a bit upwards

[crimson sky]

they don't fall out

[chrome vault]

I see

[tawdry tree]

Not “better”, especially not by themselves but stem swapped (Raptor housing KS-20/Lekker stem) they become very tight.

[tawdry tree]

Friction?

[crimson sky]

idk what the space between PCB and switch has to do with them either

[crimson sky]

there is a small lip/taper they sit on

[chrome vault]

And are the jades plug and play now or do I need to follow the instructions in modding faq still

[tawdry tree]

That the switch is open, essentially using the PCB to bottom out.

[tawdry tree]

Plug and play if you use the latest firmware.

[chrome vault]

Okay great

[crimson sky]

nope

not how they work

[chrome vault]

I used a low profile board for years and I have a really bad habit of smashing my keys all the way down

So I figured a shorter travel switch would be beneficial

[tawdry tree]

Let me rewatch that video, I don’t get how else they could work.

[chrome vault]

Before HE boards short travel low profile boards were the best shit for CS

[tawdry tree]

That’s one way, yeah sure.

[crimson sky]

ah nvm

thought they sit on there

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/rab795haTmY?si=WMUVT0dVd04qM9C9 rewatched the first 20 seconds.

[crimson sky]

they don't do

[chrome vault]

Jades are light too right

[tawdry tree]

Preference!

[chrome vault]

Half the force of lekkers

I think?

[tawdry tree]

Same force as L45s I believe and 15g(?) less than L60s

Wooting used its end force (60g is their endforce) as the name.

[tawdry tree]

Thought I was crazy for a sec 🤣

[chrome vault]

It says they’re 30g

[tawdry tree]

Jades start force is 30g, L45s is 30g too.

[glacial wind]

jades are 50g-ish end force

[chrome vault]

Okay ty

[chrome vault]

Gotcha

Ty

[tawdry tree]

Yw!

[midnight rock]

sucks that there's almost no info on the discord about 2he improvements

;-;

Also i tried finding that pic you talked about @tawdry tree but haven't been able to using the search feature

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, you mean what improvements they made or that they should be making 2HE improvements?

[midnight rock]

And well doesn't look like anyone even really does basic mods to the 2he

I mean mods

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂😂😂

Another one bites the dust.

[midnight rock]

Discord search feature more like useless

Also archiving channels constantly doesn't help...

[tawdry tree]

The 2HE wasn’t designed around modding. I would like a revisioned 2HE (although I wouldn’t buy/use it) it’d still be better to have a lineup that enthousiast can enjoy.

[midnight rock]

I get that I just wanted to make my spacebar sound a little better lol

[tawdry tree]

I honestly didn’t know the stabilizers can’t be taken out easily, still quite shocks me. 😆

[midnight rock]

It's quite sad indeed

I thought I could

[tawdry tree]

You still technically can but you’d have to disassemble the entire board. 😬

[potent wedge]

Is PC switch plate compatible with tx ap stabilizer?

[midnight rock]

Stabs are supposedly greased from the factory

[tawdry tree]

The 2HE also doesn’t have threaded case holes, they’re self threading I believe. So you can only open it up and close it again so many times before it fails.

[midnight rock]

Oh well

I guess i'll just live with it as is, just got hopeful after seeing people do fancy stuff with their 60hes lol

And thought hey! Maybe i can do a few small things

[tawdry tree]

No, on paper they aren’t. Some used them and they work fine, others like myself had to either sand their plate to enlarge the stabilizer hole or use different stabilizers altogether.

[tawdry tree]

🥲

[midnight rock]

I mean hey i still love the thing and it feels amazing to use

[tawdry tree]

Of course, it could’ve been more amazing though.

😉

[midnight rock]

I may try adding some foam to my spacebar and see if that helps

Any recommendations?

https://kbdfans.com/products/spacebar-foam

Saw this online

[tawdry tree]

You can buy foam pads for under in the spacebar

Yes

[midnight rock]

This product is only supported in the products of PCB Mount Stabilizers; if you are plate Mount stabilizers, You need to use the scissors part to make it fit

Are mine plate or pcb mounted?

[tawdry tree]

You can also use a poron or epdm sheet and cut your own.

[tawdry tree]

Yours are plate mounted yes.

[potent wedge]

Not recommended to buy?

[midnight rock]

So i'll have to leave a few little cuts for the stabs

[tawdry tree]

If you don’t want to have to sand your plate, then no.

[tawdry tree]

Oh yes of course, the housing of plate mounts extent a little. Yes, you’d have to cut them up a bit. Tbh, if your local store sells sheets of foam

you can just DIY it

KBD ships from china so shipping cost will be more than the pads themselves

[midnight rock]

Kinda new at this so i had no idea

XD

[tawdry tree]

Ofc, that’s why people ask questions! 👍

[midnight rock]

@tawdry tree i can get a copy for 1.99 on aliexpress with free shipping precut and everything

[tawdry tree]

Nice!

4 pieces too

[midnight rock]

Yeet, i guess i'll mess with it and figure it out xD

[tawdry tree]

the 3mm one you’d have to cut a bit, if you don’t it’d be a travel distance limiter.

[midnight rock]

Worst case its not a big loss

[tawdry tree]

yeah, aliexpress is nice for stuff like that

[midnight rock]

Cut in terms of thickness?

Couldn't i just stack 2x1mm together?

[tawdry tree]

yes, only the holes where it fits around the keycap stem would have to be bigger (rectangular) so you could enlarge those hole and use double sided tape to hold it in place

[tawdry tree]

Yes that’d work as well

https://tenor.com/view/genius-think-be-clever-be-smart-gif-10617231

[midnight rock]

🧠

[tawdry tree]

Btw, the pad might block the rbg

not sure if you mind

the one that’s two pieces won’t block it I think

[midnight rock]

Can always cut a little slit also its on the space bar not the most noticeable rgb effect

[tawdry tree]

yeah exactly

[gaunt marten]

I tend to avoid foam in spacebar cuz they make it slightly mushy sometimes

[radiant ether]

Switch pads
Burger mount
PC plate
Lubricated stabilizators

what else can be done with it?

[untold wigeon]

which switch pads?

[radiant ether]

default lekker, gonna buy jade

[gaunt marten]

Aftermarket case, gummy o ring mount

[whole perch]

found this case on aliexpress and its compatible with 60he, so i wanna know if it is any good

most doesnt ship to serbia, so this is only one i could find that is affordable

[tawdry tree]

It’s fine, as long as the stabilizer housing has room to go up in the keycap a bit it won’t be mushy.

[tawdry tree]

It looks really thin, I mean depth wise. If the distance between the top of the standoffs and the top of the case’s edge is less than 7mm, the switch plate will stick out above the case’s edge.

[whole perch]

just checked reviews, and yeah its sticking out

[untold wigeon]

anyone know where i can buy these orings? in EU.

[tawdry tree]

everywhere, they’re really common.

M2 silicone O-Rings

AliExpress has hundreds of sellers if you can’t find them locally.

[untold wigeon]

can u please link

[tawdry tree]

I’d suggest to get M2x5 or 6mm if you’re grabbing them.

[untold wigeon]

i cant find shit

[tawdry tree]

AliExpress?

[untold wigeon]

yes

[tawdry tree]

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! €0,96 | 10PCS/lot O-ring Silicone CS1mm Thickness OD4/4.5/5/5.5/6/6.5/7/7.5/8/8.5/9/9.5/10/10.5/11/11.5/12/13mm ORing Rubber Gasket.-.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EIiG8PR

Again, there are literal hundreds of sellers if not more.

[untold wigeon]

this is correct 5x3x1?

[tawdry tree]

No, 4x2x1

That store has them in black or red too if you care. 😉

[untold wigeon]

gonna see if any wooting staff can tell me where they got them from in the vid

[tawdry tree]

Why? 😅

[untold wigeon]

shipping takes ages xd

wait i found on amazon now i think

[tawdry tree]

They’re everywhere, youjust gotta look 🙂

[untold wigeon]

these can work no?

[tawdry tree]

Uh

Yes but dimensions are listed wrong there

[untold wigeon]

what

they are the same dimensions as the ones at thockpop

[tawdry tree]

They prob mean 4x1x1, not 4x1x1.5

[untold wigeon]

no they mean 1.5

[tawdry tree]

That’s thick though

[tawdry tree]

and doesn’t even make sense honestly

Oh

They’re fine, they mean the inner diameter with 1.5

not the thickness

no wtf they dont

LMAO

They mean 4x1x1 bro, you can buy those

those will work

but they listed it wrong 😂

oh nah they didnt

im trippin

they’re good bro

[untold wigeon]

bro lmfao

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

you def need to get different screw with those though

[untold wigeon]

here we go with this bs

[tawdry tree]

cause they are 1.5mm thick

nah

4x2x1 are 1mm thick

those r 1.5

stock woot screws are m2x4mm

[untold wigeon]

just forget about it

i cba

too much fucking headache

[tawdry tree]

lmao

[empty sinew]

doesn't even make much diff tbh

so why bother

[tawdry tree]

burger?

[empty sinew]

anything

the pcb just sound mediocre

no matter what you do to it

compared to something better

[tawdry tree]

better like?

[empty sinew]

higher end?

idk theres thousand of options

go look at some of the stuff on mechkeys disc

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I mean the mount sure, burger isn’t the greatest for sound and feel as it’s still tray but all keyboards’ PCBs are PCBs man. 😉

[empty sinew]

its not the same, its also different plates that go with the PCB's etc different designs

different type of switches that are supported and so on

different mounting styles

different cases supported by the PCB

wooting pcb is quite limited in that sense

only some cases are supported, same goes for the switches

[tawdry tree]

You can accomplish that on Wooting’s boards too, not a PCB with flex cuts but most things possible on non HE customs are or will be on Wooting’s boards too.

Just takes time.

[empty sinew]

but theres still very limited switches support, due to many other switches which sound much better are not rlly meant for gaming, and many high end cases incorporate designs for lets say WKL or have usb ports on the middle

wooting sounds great for a gaming keyboard, but I would say if your strictly after sound, and don't care about gaming features - why would you go for it.

[tawdry tree]

It won’t be long until there will be magnetic switches on par with regular mechanical switches. I’m sure of that. Even right now, tolerances are great on the newest switches just sound profile is a bit meh.

[empty sinew]

yeah I sure hope so 🙂

it also comes down largely to the personal preferance as is anything sound wise, different taste.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[empty sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvifPYPWoWM

like for example, this build when I check it

some really like it some really hate it 😄

for me for example this is one of the best spacebar sounds

which I can't achieve on wooting

but this is insane build so ye

[tawdry tree]

So it’s switches that you mean? Cause cases can work and you can create your own even, stabilizer are compatible, different plate materials would be custom

Keycaps

[empty sinew]

switches, cases, nylon plates maybe (i didn't see any for wooting)

[tawdry tree]

Well, then it’s how custom does custom get. If custom only is what you can buy then sure. If custom is what you can create, then it’s all of the above. 😉

[empty sinew]

like for example, if I want primarily a good sound - why would I buy a wooting for 150bucks and go over all that trouble , custom modding etc and whatnot, still have limited case choices, when I could buy a pcb for like 30bucks, which has lets say middle usb position, buy a nice SingaKBD case or something like this, and some cool sounding switches..have already a lot of premade cool plate options and so on

you buy the wooting pcb if you need the gaming features it has, and then additional to that you can play around some and make it sound decent.. that's about it for me at this moment. I don't really get why some people buy a wooting and not use any gaming features and just go for trying to make it type well.. you got much better other options for purely that.

[tawdry tree]

I think because they keep the features, which aren’t solely for gaming. Some go out of their way to create something custom for their board to make it better, that happens with HE and non HE customs.

But if it’s how good can custom get with just buying parts, non HE definitely has the upper hand, mostly because it exists longer and has a bigger community.

[empty sinew]

Yep, there's more things available,.. and specially cases are very cool in the higher end. They also bring a lot to the sound. The case imho is a larger part of the sound. With wooting you got some options like Fjell, Salvation and the Frog Mini which I really wanted to buy, but even for the Frog Mini you have to get a custom plate, which is currently available only in Australia?

Then it kindof ends, because most of the top cases don't use the left usb position, or the WK design, or have some other mounting systems.

[tawdry tree]

I really love the custom designs people make (and manufacture), both with HE and non HE boards. It’s a nice challenge to design your own parts if you’re not happy with what’s on the market. I understand that that’s time consuming and expensive but it’s worth it to some.

For those who want their HE board on par with non HE.

If your dream build is available for purchase as non HE and you don’t care for HE, then of course.

If not, it’s either a waiting game until someone manufactures what you’d want or to do it yourself.

[empty sinew]

Hmm do you have some link of anything custom with wooting pcb?

[wet hazel]

old but gold fjell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeqnEJpPZVY

[empty sinew]

thats very nice yep 🙂 but its not a wooting?

[wet hazel]

6 years ago

xD

Holy Pandas

nope, not a wooting

[empty sinew]

yeah as I said

you can't rlly get such stuff on wooting

that was my point

[wet hazel]

I was only remembering a good sounding spacebar in the past

[empty sinew]

You can throw a wooting pcb in to the fjell though

and I know some here done it

but again, as @median spade said not worth it tbh

[wet hazel]

yeah but if I remember, the results were not...good

yeah

[empty sinew]

like atm if I am not wrong best you can do on a wooting pcb is basically Jades or mod Raptors with stem swap, and either Salvation\Fjell or Frog Mini if your lucky. And then go after some of the custom plates if somebody will make one for you, and possible buy cerakeys

[wet hazel]

This year we'll have more HE Switches

And Lekkers V2.0 with the 80HE release

[empty sinew]

I have been trying the Peaches dual rail already, although they are very stable the sound is not the same as those legendary ones 😄

[wet hazel]

idk what can be improved besides switch materials tbh, as we've seen open and closed ones

[median spade]

Frog mini and jades or lekker stem in raptors was best I got it to be

[wet hazel]

but wwell I'm kinda noob in those aspects

[median spade]

But even then yeah it was close to any of my MX customs in the slightest

[empty sinew]

yep

[median spade]

Saw your comment above too where some people are buying this just for typing and a “custom” experience without gaming. That’s just wild to me as the experience sucks on 60he for that haha

[wet hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6il-KoyNc1g

well not quite a perfect comparison

[tawdry tree]

Not for purchase, just what people have made. #1070668460905988106

Saw some there.

[strange quarry]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOooqgI

anyone got opinions on these

[tawdry tree]

Is that actually the case though? I mean to be fair, Wooting offers 4 years of warranty which I haven’t seen in any other brand. Maybe that’s the reason?

[tawdry tree]

Seem decent and compatible. If you have a 60HE non + that is.

I don’t think you’d notice a big difference compared to the stock stabilizers though.

[strange quarry]

i'm running a two he, spacebar stab seems to have something funky going

[tawdry tree]

Oh, well the 2HE’s stabilizers aren’t as easy to replace as the 60HE’s.

You have to open up the board entirely seems like.

[median spade]

I mean if that’s what you’re going for is a warranty, but it’s just a 60% tray mount (p0k3r to be specific) which was popular in 2017-2018 and been a long time since we’ve moved on from that for a good typing experience

[strange quarry]

from the bit i've done, you're already typing on the plate so it isn't too hard to reach them

[tawdry tree]

Well I would find it quite odd if someone would buy a board to then not use any of the features it offers. Seems counterintuitive.

[median spade]

Oh wait I’m confused

I was just referencing saying people who are buying it to mod it and say it’s a good typing experience but don’t use the features yeah

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, you can’t take out the stabilizers without disassembling the board right? Or am I mistaken?

[median spade]

Which is odd

[tawdry tree]

Yeah it is, lolhero has a point there if people actually do that.

[strange quarry]

i've just been taking the keycap off along with the switch and pulling them out

[tawdry tree]

That’s like buying a ford raptor just to go to the grocery store.

[median spade]

Exactly

[tawdry tree]

Could you send me a picture of the 2HE with the space bar taken off?

I thought there wasn’t a slot to remove the stabilizer wire.

[median spade]

Someone said they only did typing but were addicted to rapid trigger for that which I found odd, but at least they’re using a feature

[tawdry tree]

Rapid Trigger for typing 🤣

Rapid Trigger must’ve improved their wpm by exactly 0, 😉

[crimson sky]

There has to be a slot so it can get installed in the first place

[tawdry tree]

No, you can install them from the bottom. It’s pretty common in prebuilt keyboards.

[crimson sky]

Not with plate mounted stabs

[tawdry tree]

Oh there is, nice.

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, you sure?

[crimson sky]

Yea

[tawdry tree]

Yeah true

[crimson sky]

Unless they are costar

Where the wire is above the plate

Or pcb mounted

[median spade]

Yeah kind of my response too lol

[tawdry tree]

@midnight rock #🔧│keyboard_modding message My bad, the 2HE does have a slot to take out the stabilizers. I didn’t see it in the picture you sent but probably missed it.

[untold wigeon]

i always have rapid trigger on lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, might’ve been confused with those. 😅

[median spade]

but you didn't buy a 60he just to use rapid trigger for typing haha

[untold wigeon]

bo ofc not, i have it for gaming just cba switching between profiles lol

[median spade]

It's two buttons

[wide kraken]

maybe they happen to write in one of those inuit languages that use lots of double letters to represent long vowels 😉
(otherwise no idea how it would help lol)

[untold wigeon]

ik lol

[untold wigeon]

send me ur typing profile

[empty sinew]

yep, this is what I was referring to, my pov was that I bought wooting because I like the gaming features and I primarily needed a gaming pcb, along with it I am also keyb enthusiast and spent some time trying to make it look and sound nicer. But I seen quite some, obsessing hardcore with mods, thinking it will make any drastic change 😄 On the end its still far from the better builds outside the gaming field

[stone arch]

anyone know where i can find a ixpe plate foam? like this https://drop.com/buy/drop-sense75-ixpe-switch-foam/reviews#reviews but in a 61 layout

[median spade]

it would mess up your stuff since I'm NA ansi

i just added a layer where I can do function and i press O for typing profile

function then P for gaming profile

[median spade]

Exactly, for a gaming keyboard it's best in terms of that, but compare it against actual customs and it's not even close

[untold wigeon]

i also have ansi

i could just rebind the bind to my liking no?

[wispy thistle]

sorry probably been asked a million times, but i heard someone say on a reddit post that switch pads messed with the rapid trigger and actuation and needed to set it lower to avoid double inputting. not really sure why that would happend, but any one else feel that?

[boreal fjord]

Switch pads?

[wispy thistle]

yea like kbd fans switch pads. they go inbetween the switch and the pcb

[boreal fjord]

Aaah i couldn't give you input on that im sorry

But if you do find out let me know

[harsh dove]

It’s stated in their page and I haven’t had any issues with mine

[wispy thistle]

Ok cool what do you have actuation set to on wasd and rapid trigger set to?

[harsh dove]

I use 0.3, 1.2, and 2.5mm actuations respectively on my gaming profile for reference

Rapid trigger is 0.15

[wispy thistle]

Awesome thanks!

[lost badge]

is the lastest wootility compatible with Jade? or do I need to use beta?

[harsh dove]

Iirc the version that works for jades is out of beta

In other words the latest one should work

[lost badge]

so what is the lowest i can set for Jade?