#🔧│keyboard_modding
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whatever u feel like
I wanna lube my switches is there anything cheaper i can get than the wooting tool kit and lubricant?
@river socket the plate mount stabs is the same as , durock v2
In terms of qual while the module stabs are screw in which are ok
There are cheaper alternatives
Can send ya some later
yep i hope someone tried it but ye for 5 euro i will try
Almost a month of delivery, wonder where they come from.. xD
Bought 28g springs for the Jades, I don't know if it was a good idea 
stock stabs
why does it say magnetic on it
please check they arent actually magnetic
thatll screw with the sensor if they are
Rip
damm, didn't try those
but the comments on the ali page said well things and people tried on lekkers/jades
so I tought there were legit
mmm they're not magnetic
probably said that because there are for "magnetic switches" (?)
would be weird if they were actually magnetic
dont' see what the point of that would be
Yeah translation issues probs. Kind of makes sense
Springs for magnetic switches = magnetic springs 
im assuming thats the bottom out force
yeah for the listing where they got them it is indeed bottom out
how do you even use that
idk
you just straight up cant touch your keyboard anymore without the keys getting pressed down
I used true bottom out 37g on the mx side and it was like typing on air with errors left and right
isn't the bottom out force always higher than the activation force?
so the activation force is even less than 28g?
yep
Unless you activate on bottom out or on a tactile bump
ah yeah I guess activation force doesn't make a lot of sense if you can put the activation point anywhere
but i mean like, the force required to partially press it
o/ do i have to do anything in the wooting software if im using jade switches?
just expect not to be able to use the full range of 4mm in software
download the beta
tyty
beta firmware should fix a lot of issues
Well my theory behind the buy was, mmm switching from 60g to L45 was awesome, super light, no fatigue on work (I type a lot).
Buying Jades and having a little more weight didn't like a lot the feeling so... Why not trying the lowest and see what happens lmao
Probably it'll feel like like s***t but I need to test it out
if 40g isnt much different from 37g then id just say you can get used to it
i've been on 40g for about 4 years at this point
but yeah sometimes if im feeling lazy i do make typos
is there some settings that wont work properly?
aren't the jades also 45g or something?
just actuation point
They feel a heavier than L45
since the jades have 0.5mm less travel than the lekker switches
At least for me
oh
for me I need long springs at 62g or else i never adjust
so like 59g actuation with 62g bottom out
they do bottom out at 50g where l45 are 45g liek they say
no
oh
they should all be broken to some degree
i see
Okay just ordered some jades for my 80HE i will preorder in some months hopefully and i wasnt sure if a made the right decision i mean probably not bcs in the mean time there will be other switch releases with the full range 4mm plus magnetic
as the magnetic jades have a stronger magnet saturating the sensor sooner
so the end value is somewhere in the press travel not 4mm
and the start is at 0
there is a sort of +- area we can calibrate for in terms of magnet strength but the jades are too strong
oh
theres already a lot of switches with 4mm range and magnetic
welpo
I was under the impression it's the same stem as normal lekker and magnet too
interesting to learn
as far as im aware (from talking to firmware dev) they saturate our sensors super quick aka before getting to 4mm

i think i will just see how i like them and maybe put them in the 60HE i have
meaning our board would map the 0-4mm onto a shorter travel aka no values actually match the real world
be it actuation point or rt
you can use them its not that they dont work
That can be tested using the rgb effect that indicates pressure?
but using the settings accurately is not a thing to my knowledge with jades
yes
yeah I know it won't be perfect but I've talked with few friends who use them on Wooting and they have pretty good performance, everything works pretty much in line.
i haven't even adjusted anything for my profile with the jades 
i guess u gotta test it urself i will do so when my jades and keycaps plus Orings arrive
iirc this is the issue raptors have, the issue jades have is they have a shorter travel distance
hm i heard jades are too strong i could be mixing it up though
geon did say that raptors have stronger magnet
btw shorter travel has the same issues though
because we then map 0-4 to whatever shorter travel
so depending on how much shorter it is youd have more or less accuracy compared to our switches
but yes seems i mixed them up and the jades do fall somewhat in line as what we expect in terms of magnetic flux
the beta firmware solves some issues with the jades by assuming the travel distance is 3.5mm (iirc) until a key is pressed. this allows you to use the full actuation slider in wootility, however it wont be very accurate.
i havent heard of such a change id need to ask
the only changes im aware of is the analog smoothing and dynamic start and end value adjustment
it should still work on 0-4mm basis though
although 0.5mm over 40steps isnt all that much loss of accuracy
This is why you're called 'BigBrain'
Away From Keyboard?

It didn't seem germane
@austere creek #🪛│modding_faq message
the thockfather has spoken hehe
Tony was just AFK the day I posted that hehe
I think the answer is yes, but basically the 60he+ can have clip in, pcb mounted or screw in stabilizers, correct?
I'm looking at getting some TX screw ins, 1.6m and long pole (using magnetic jades)
could putting o rings on keycaps affect the hall effect/rappid trigger/actuation? I lubed the lekkers but still sound scratchy, fell the o rings dampen the scrathiness a bit
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Most cursed link ever
i want to know this aswell
don't really need the long pole tbh as they work just fine with regular ones
issues arise from poor quality keycaps
Just if you ever want to switch to another style of he switch in the future then the long pole ones will be more awkward with normal switches then the other way around
but other than that, a screw in pcb mount should work? If I get different switches in the future I can always just get another stabilizer kit or use the stock ones again.
Yeah that's true
My man, edit your message and delete everything after the “?”
Was just adding in case you didn't want to swap stabs again
Thank you, just wanted to get a second opinion before I confirmed the purchase.
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Fixed it
Tx stabs might not work out of the box with the module
Might require u to sand the pc plate
Depends on ur luck due to tolerance
Mine works fine
But very tight
It's either this or the Gateron V2s but I seem to find more people recommending the TX stabs.
Thanks though, if mine don't work ill give em a lil sand.
That one just points to nothing lol
yeah
Exactly
Mine points to this
In case you have troubles seeing lol
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Even shorter this time
And it works
Why are you so offended by the link size?:D
Optimizing to the max
tx stabs are the best but plate tolerances right are a gg if you get to use the tx or not
for example i had custom pom plate made, and guy makes the stab cutouts tight which is good thing
but it was so tight with my tx stabs they were slow to return so had to go back to stock
which is fine since plate is so tight that the stock stabs are doing great
Good to keep in mind, I appreciate you sharing
cause it's a link to a mobile website
that doesn't do responsive very well
what is taobao
Haha, I’m sorry, man
Aliexpress but not worldwide available
pretty much chinese amazon
has a lot of things you can only get in china
lol no worries, I’m not being serious
Hey does anyone know a source to get custom keycaps made im looking to get a set made
https://goblintechkeys.com I think these guys do
At Goblintechkeys, we're all about empowering workspace setup enthusiasts to freely express themselves through carefully crafted, personalized custom keycaps, custom keyboards, and custom deskmats. Our aim is to add personality to workspaces, sparking creativity and boosting productivity along the way.
i cant see the uk layout made for that company
even this name is ok.
I just wanted to say that
We are not strict in modding but some people dont even do letters/numerics
I know this is a Wooting server but would this be an okay setup?
Anything else I would need for it to work or is this enough?
well you’d probably need the cable
and a case
if you already have those then yes
The barebone comes with a case and cable
Dual gasket mount apparently
No cuz it’s not Wooting lulz
Anyone tried the WS Jade switch? if yes how do you like them?
Already have a Wooting but I want to try to get my first custom non-HE keyboard
Hey Guys I want to make A wooting custom keyboard, I made this on the wooting website Do you think its gonna fit all?
You are good to go 😉
aitt
You even went more balls to the wall than me. I just bought the 60HE(non+) without the alumaze. I just got everything stock except for keycaps. I switched from black ABS to Black PBT
Later on I upgraded to Gateron Jade switches
That is nice man!
Since you got the + version then I can only recommend getting screw in stabilizers down the line if you ever wanna do work on your keyboard
Is that PBT keycap set a must thing?
No
Appreciate
alr i will!
the module comes with screw in stabs
read above
Do you want to not get keycaps or do you want ABS? What do you mean?
Ah I did not know they came included
I just thought the + version just supported it
it does. the prebuilt comes with plate mount, the module comes with screw in.
np
read to what?
What I said about getting screw in stabs you just forget what i said
The module you are getting already have them installed 😉
aa alr good to know!
if i buy that Do you think that i get cable to?
for connecting to my [c
pc*
alr
Cable is included
the module comes with a cable
Ait good to know thanks!
The + comes with screw in stabs
Is there a list of best mods for the wooting? I kinda want to go all in but don't know where to start
Somehow never saw the "best mods" part, tysm
There is no best mods, only mods. Best is up to each person.
Im a complete noob here sorry ahah and thanks for your advice.
Apart from lubing switches and stabs i dont really know what more I can do then, since it looks like tape mod doesnt work and my keyboard is burger mounted atm with jades and alumaze case
yeah modding keyboards is all really down to preference
since there is no best and just what you like/prefer
i mean other then lubing stabs
You may not need to do anything else. Modding is done to solve a problem or change something unwated. if you're happy then thats amazing
Hello, does anyone know what the 2 white screws that Wooting 60he includes in the transparent bag inside its box are for? Is it a replacement for interior screws or what are they really for?
is stem swapping raptors with l45s a thing, or l45s dont have stem wobble to bother doing that?
l45 have stem wobble
and yeah u could do that
oh i dont have either l45 or l60. was going to order some raptors and stem swap. but how would i decide between l45 and l60. any difference? all the stem swap sound tests ive seen was using l60
ive just seen l60 aswell
i have no experience in this, hopefully someone else that has can answer your question, sorry.
No difference with the stems
ok thanks
theyre all lying it's a HUGE difference
one is teal and one is yellow!!
massive difference ifyou ask me as those colors are not even remotely the same
yea im going to have to go with the teal on this one. its a big decision tho, so ill sit on it for a week and get back to you.
so is there anything you else you need if your trying to make stem swapped raptors. like films or something idk.
or i guess the right question would be how do the switch films affect the sound
Is anyone aware if i can change the springs in raptor switches
would like a higher tension
I asked in another server didnt get anywhere
In my opinion switch films don’t change sound much, but they do tighten the housing if you feel like you having housing wobble
Was told he springs are different than a standard switch
Yeah can spring swap but they need to be non magnetic springs
They are
do the jades or stem swapped raptors need them?
Rip does this include tx springs
im sorry if this is a stupid question but why is GMK keycaps so expensive? aint they ABS which what i thought is worse than DS PBT?
I have GMK keycaps but i honestly cant answer that other than the process of it
Yes. The HE springs are a larger diameter as well
Mmm okay thank you, i guess ill be waiting till theres more third party springs readily available on the market
Wooting will be releasing a variety spring pack soon
here is a reddit response i read
High-end ABS sets like ones from GMK are generally the most expensive because they produce the highest quality legends with their double shot process. ABS plastic also allows for basically any colour combination imaginable. They are vastly different from the cheapo dogshit ABS shinethrough keycaps that gaming keyboards usually come with and are usually what people refer to when people say that ABS is inferior to PBT.
Plus they are made by Germans so you know they are quality. Think Volkswagen
think audi.
Exactly what I was gonna say
perfect thanks
also this
One material isn't simply better than the other, it just depends on what you value more in your keycaps. High-end ABS if you're looking for more colour options and crisper legends, PBT if you hate shine and can live with not having the highest possible quality legends.
But yeah abs allows for wider color palette
yes i hate shine
Yep same thing as modding really
All personal
although cam will be sending me his Olivia GMK set aint that right?
Lmao
also for sound profiile ive heard gmk double shot abs generally has a sligthly clackier sound. if thats what your going for. someone else can confirm
Can confirm
going for the opposite
problem solved
same thats why i went pbt as well
GMK spacebars hold a special place in my heart tho
Clones
They’re fine if you want clones
They’re not real GMK tho if that bothers you
Is there anyone interested in monitors? I need a few suggestions 🤔
ive heard good things about novelkeys maybe check that clone @untold wigeon
does the klippe T’s usb cutout perfectly line up with the 60he’s
Didn’t realize even the pre designed were handmade
I sent him my condolences tho
What?
I think he’s just specifying that the 60HE+ Module comes with screw in stabs, whereas the prebuilt 60HE+ comes with plate mount stabs.
Both are compatible with plate mount or screw in though. They just come packaged differently .
correct me if wrong
Interesting when is this
I don’t have that information unfortunately
Multiple individual packs, not one pack with a variety
Next month or two somewhere, they're being made
Ah thanks for clarifying, makes sense
It was originally a multipack, that changed somewhere along the line
ahh gotcha
Ah okay that makes perfect sense
who here ordered from https://mechkeys.com/ before?
Got my KS20u from them
how long did it take before they shipped the order?
because tomorrow will be kindof 3-4 day since I ordered
and they didn't ship yet
its pretty unsual to me :\
I ordered on the 31st and got them on the 9th
So lil over a week
I mean like they havent yet handed over the package to the courier yet
Yeah I get you
Do you remember how long did it take for them to go from ordered to shipped?
Or maybe see in the email
Shipped on Feb 1st
So two days from order
They’ll probably have them shipped by tomorrow lol
just ordered stuff for my build! thoughts? (also ordered some o-rings and grease on amazon for stabs and burger mount)
im gonna use the red accent caps to go with my red g pro SL
Seems solid brother
ill have to post it once i get the stuff in and assemble it
Yep, keep us updated
Got some new switch containers
pretty normal just everyone too used to amazon prime shipping 
get a label maker
the containers are transparent 😳
10 days for me (feb 18->28)
When my order got to the warehouse it took 8 days to leave and like 6-8 to ship to my house
hmm... kinda obvious in hindsight but only just now realizing that tall profiles like MT3/SA kinda accentuate the lekker stem wobble noises
tested swapping to a cheapo xda clone set that I bought for the modifiers to use on a different keyboard... sounds so much more stable/clean lol
but muh fingers need to be cupped
I've been planning on building a custom 60he+ for a few months now but cannot decide on switches. I currently have cherry mx red switches but my brain is saying L45 switches instead of L60s. I know there is 3rd party switches but I've seen some issues with them such as actuation not being able to hit 0.1 if I read correctly, unless new ones are planned to be officially released soon or there is a good combo of the two if i take them apart. Money isn't to much of a concern
I’ve had my wooting 2 lekker for about 2 or 3 years not sure I don’t remember when I got it tbh but I love it any mods I should do to make it better? Nothing is wrong with it only thing is that I dropped it and one of the little legs broke but it I lay it flat anyway
Modding the keyboard is more of just a preference thing. They just mess around with the sound for the most part so it won't make anything better per se. If you're curious about it one of the easier mods you can do is the tape mod which is just applying a 1-3 layers of painter's/masking/electical tape on the back of the PCB
if you want something a bit more involved, you can get a small pack of butyl sound deadener and cut pieces to line the inside of the plastic bottom case. reduces some of the hollow sounds.
there's also standard layout plate foams out there
but if you don't mind the sound then those are kinda moot
Do you know what spring weight and length they use in the lekkers?
Have you tried them yet?
I'm not sure on the exact length but L45s are 30cN - 45cN and the L60s are 40cN - 60cN
Ty, would any set of springs work if I wanted to try out different lenghts and weights?
Not just any set because you have to make sure they aren't magnetic and are the same diameter
Any recommendations? Im new to all of this.
I think some people have been trying out the ones on AliExpress that say they're compatible with wooting
That aliexpress link the only place to buy them rn
Why do we need the module? If I purchase just 60he+ I can’t mod it?
Yeah
You can.
Ty for all the info!
Ah I see Tysm but what’s the extra + module useful for?
It's the exact same as whats in the prebuilt.
Yeah same PCB, just different package
The Prebuilt comes with a steel plate and plate mount stabs, the standalone module comes with screw in stabs and a PC plate
The HE+ has support for screw in stabilizers compared to the HE. They didn't offer HE module, only prebuilt iirc. For HE+ they are doing both.
Yeah it used to be just the regular HE with plate mount stabs
Ah
The prebuilt is not much more money than the moduel so I got it just to mess around with and have some spare switches and keycaps, and to compare the feel of it stock vs when am done modding it.
yeah i got the module cause i wanted the PC plate & screw in stabs and it comes with it by default
For someone like me, I should definitely have one, I’ll look into it
This is random but what style of keycap and switch puller works best? And what's a good one to cop? Or is a cheapo from temu just the same?
Its recommended to swap the stem for raptor switches
ahh yeah I saw that
I'm gonna have to test if it effects me if it does I might swap switches
but the raptors sound a bit nicer so I was gonna try em out
Tbh most people won’t like them stem swapped
Due to the friction it causes
I liked mine but I also like my switches “heavier” as it just made them feel like 62gish if I had to say
Ultimate comes down to ur luck

I wouldn't recommend raptor in general because of the magnet issue
That's just me
I mean overtime, the more you use it, it should smoothen out overtime
Personally i aint doin all that :^
Anyone know where I can get some washers for my screw in stabs?
Its just an m2 washer no?
Im trying to fix a bit of the "stiffness" but thats probably imp on the wooting?
Also it sounds a bit metallic whenever i bottom out on certain keys at the middle of the board, other than that im super happy
Yeah
You can try getting the wooting pc plate (polycarbonate) to help with that metallic sound, assuming you don’t already have one
I do ahah, i have the module 😉
I put foam in between plate and pcb + foam in the case
Maybe i should try removing one of these
Ah ok, very nice, my b
Do you have it mounted normally aka just screwed in or did you burger mount/gummy mount?
Peaches?
Magnetic Orange 2.0/KS20u/Peaches
They don’t sell them out of the kit though right?
No
U buy them from a seperate retailer
Oh yea gateron sell the 2.0 switches
I was thinking about the ones with the full orange housing that they don’t sell separately
I put little o rings between the case and the pcb, im not sure if thats the correct way to do it?
Yeah its kind of the same thing, burger mount is slightly different, I do recommend the Gummy O Ring Mount/Friction Mount, if you haven't tried it.
Might help with that metallic sound you're referring too
whats the friction mount?
Isn't that only for the prebuilt
like where you put this large gum around the whole pcb and then mount
Gummy O Ring
⌨️ Wooting 60HE & Klippe-T // Gateron Lekker lubed typing sounds
⌨️ Specs
• Keyboard : Wooting 60HE
• Case : Mekanisk Klippe-T
• Plate : Aluminum
• Keycaps : PBTfans WoB
• Switches : Gateron Lekker Hall effect
• Stabilizers : Plate mount
🛠 Mods :
• Switch lubed w/ Christo Lube MCG111
• Springs lubed w/ Krytox GPL105
• Switch filmed w/ Deske...
Yessir, and it's not restricted to the prebuilt
Only thing to keep in mind is if you're using screw in stabs then you need a S-size O-ring and if using Clip ins or Plate mount stabs then you need an M-size O-ring
Just go buy them in a hardware store 
Or if you need one with special measurments, just order a cord and make one yourself
They too short
Is ok ill just wait and cope
This is good for sticking them together
why cant i have the o-ring in EU
@harsh dove sry ping but do u know if graveshift small 45A fit wooting module?
yes
Anyone have issue with tx stabs on the wooting module? Currently using raptors and cerakeys
If you're using screw in stabs, yes
yeah i am
its a known issue
tolerance with the pc plate
u might need to sand it down
the default that came with the module
mine works fine
Like it can fit in and all
so we are 100% sure it fits?
depends on ur luck
Is just that the spacebar is not going up after pressing it down it goes up but not all the way
Yeah if you're using the stock screw ins, you can get the small o ring
What case do you have?
45A, i saw u used 40A
tofu redux
I haven't tested it with screws in on the redux yet but it worked fine on the alumaze and salvation
try pressing the switch
see if its fully seated
45a is fine
and check if u installed the stab properly
Will it change if i use just normal wooting keycaps or something
I am sure its installed properly the stabs
HAHHAHA
for a fucking o-ring is this a joke
Maybe a heavier spring will help with it
thats why im waiting for local guy to restock some o rings
where u from if u dont mind me asking
idk what that is xd
Keycaps dont sit well aswell😭
seems like cerakey things
u can put tape on the keycap stem
Yea
its an issue with the keycap + stab itself
oh
basically dem holes too beeg
damn
Is that the ring that goes all the way around the case?
pop up issue
Around the pcb, yeah
r u using jades?
Raptors
Just buy a cord and cut it yourself 
Stock raptors
Interesting, i'll try that for sure. Any recommendation for where to buy it ? Im in europe btw, france
keycap popup happens mostly when the tolerance between certain keycap and certain stabs have skill issue
Idk how shipping might be for you
colored spaghetti
nah cba
Also gonna try a few things with those
im gonna wait for dem 2$ 55A gummy o rings to restock
tx ap clip ins saves the day
if not i have to cope with graveshift
Then u gotta pay the extra and wait longer xD
prolly
i emailed graveshift already
but tbh
its fine without this mount
not sure why you would even want it, my board sounds amazing in the tofu without any of those mounts, just 4 screws and thats it
Looks like 15€ mhhh
But thanks for the advice ill try to find one 😎
Yeah no problem, best of luck
Hello, does anyone know what the 2 white screws that Wooting 60he includes in the transparent bag inside its box are for? Is it a replacement for interior screws or what are they really for?
With translucent keycaps
So like, if i put this the keyboard is essentially locked in the case just thanks to the o ring?
Right, you don't have to use any screws with Gummy O Ring Mount/Friction Mount
Spare screws
Incase u lose em
Is it worth getting an fr4 plate swap on the wooting?
The wooting comes with a pc plate right?
The 60HE+ Modul comes with PC plate and silicone pad pre installed, the normal pre-build 60HE+ comes with steel plate and poron foam pre installed
The module also comes with poron foam as replacemen and already got screw in stabs, unlike the pre-build, which has just plate mounted (clip in) stabs.
Should have been more careful ;p
Still no reply to your email?
Would be so easy to fix too, but i cant find that god damn LED from the PDF Mansen posted, the code doesnt exist.. .-.
Any idea how silicone performs sound wise vs poron ? Trying to get some thocc
It may be an intern number, and we only see the customer one
Silicone filters low pitch, poron high pitch
and to change layout
Thankss, so deffo foam is the way to go
This is with PC plate, silicone pad, silicone rings on the stand offs and hand lubed switches
Except D, which i left with stock lube, to compare
L60
Hand Lube is always recommended as an improvement over factory lubbing
I overlubed them a little too
that will make sound more deep/silent
Just dont go too wild on it, or it may cause issues/demage
such a good set 
-> the lube should stay inside the switch and not squeeze out, or hinder the key in its movement speed
Ill try lubing my jades. Never lubed switches before, will be a fun experience
Takes ages
So prep to take some time
Was my first time lubing/modding my keyboard as well, took me from 18:00 to almost midnight xD
Also remember how the switches went in, or you will end up like @untold wigeon 
hahah
Best to take pictures of how it was as a beginner
I recognise that video 
Every time someone talks about how to lube your switches, they always mention to not over lube! So in this video, I lubed a few switches with different amounts of lube to see what the difference is! In my tests I show how each switch sounds and feels when typing.
I also quickly show how to lube your mechanical keyboard switches, or at least h...
@idle pier Oh, and forgot to say that this is the Alumaze and not the plastic housing
BRO it took me max 2 hours my first time
For me it was like 1 song per switch, so around 3 hours 
took me like 6h for my first time including stabs, switches, building keeb

basically shit was slow asf because i was using the lube station
im selling my switches tape modded switches set (lekkers60) if someone in france want them. 3 layers of gentle paper tape; lube broke in already; I use jades now and literally have no use of my old lekkers (hand lubed top; bottom housing; stem with 205G0 and spring with 105G0)
anyone here have tried keebtape for tapemod?
Is there someone who can help me find the right stabs for the wooting 60he PCB non+ variant, one of my stabs broke 🙂
useless
Clip in stabs
Yeah I am aware of this. But Im pretty sure I need some specific sizes
i read that with pc plate help
? Help with what
What key?
to deep sound, in my keychron definitely helped, but i read the wooting with tofu and steel plate doesn't help so much to do tape mod, but with pc plate yes
What the actual FU-
first step is to forget everything and not compare to your keychron
as your wooting will never sound the same ever
this is wrong
plate mount stabs, pretty sure wooting just uses gateron stabs
They are clip ins 
There exist 2 types which are clip in or screw in
No plate mount
Quick question i have a 60he+ coming in next week and i was looking for black ish transparent keycaps without breaking the bank, do you guys have any recommendations?
Alright what about expensive lmao
Not sure about that color
I know pink only, left keeb modding community some time ago
i see well thanks anyways!
he said not 60he+ so it would indeed just be plate mount
How about this?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006362782147.html
Looks good thank you!
Plate mount is what is called clip in. 
It's not about mounting point, it's about mounting technique
No
It's not
Yes it is
Literally no lol
If you tell someone to buy clip in stabilizers and they have no holes on the pcb
they will buy these
Pcb has clip in and screw in, plate has only clip in
No one calls plate mount stabilizers clip ins
When you have pcb mounted stabilizers they are either clip in or screw in
google clip in stabilizers and let me know what shows up
Not one listing for plate mounted stabilizers will show

Imagine doing it after a hard 12h shift.
You aslo opened up every single switch?
2 min per switch would be pretty fast for the first time
Yes, its simple tfym
Means i was tired and exhausted when i did it
That pic is literally when you tell bro to put on a small amount of lube💀
Were you able to resolve the name of the stabilizer?
Are the clip in TX AP stabs still an issue for some people?
Hi friends. I just ordered a wooting HE+ and I'm looking to get all the other parts I will need for modding. Outside of Graveshift S O-Rings, anything else people are commonly putting on?
Not an issue if you’re willing to sand the stabilizer holes a bit wider in the switch plate.
Can you show me which wooting you bought?
I’ve tested 3 kinds of TX AP Stabs on the Wooting PC Plate with no issues, however some users have reported their stabs getting stuck or the plate not fitting over the stabs. Primarily with tx ap screw ins but it can happen with clip ins as well.
Again I’ve had no issues but some have so your mileage may vary
They will not work on the wooting steel plate
have u tried a different pc plate is the question
Yes I have 3 of them
KEK
Yeah all of mine work
Yeah it is
It was tight my with carbon fiber plate too but still works perfectly
With the tx ap clip ins
Thanks for the info! I have the FR4 plate waiting in case.
I can get them through the PC plates but steel is a no go. On paper they don’t fit and steel is just sturdy whereas PC isn’t.
Has anyone used the S sized oring with the clip ins? As I know with the m size and clip ins... its hard to get back out of the case
@harsh dove the gmk olivas whenever your ready...thanks.
Certain people have issues with the fr4 i think
Hey does anyone here speak german i wanna ask smth
what hardness?
cant use translate?
40a
Might not be accurate especially with modding stuff
Yk
ah i feel
If it’s the FR4 plate from KDBFans I believe it doesn’t work, but I cannot remember why
sorry
Yeah same
Yep dont want to get things mixed up :)
I’ve only tried the s ring with screw in as you don’t need them for clip ins , you need m size.
If you feel it’s too tight, have you tried removing the plate foam?
I can test with s ring real quick in my tofu with tx ap clips ins
I've found that over time it becomes a lot easier to put in and take out
Yeah as things break in/get worn
first few times were so hard
Oh wait you mean the gummy mount
Yeah that gets easier as the foam compresses
If you’re using foam
cam can u see how much it cost u to ship a gummy oring to sweden
ill pay u for it literally
Lmao I’d have to check at work
Ah the foam is probably the issue
can u check acutally?
Yessir , overtime the foam will compress under the pressure from the ring and should become easier or you can try removing the plate foam and see if you like the sound that way
But it will be easier without plate foam
Yeah when I’m at work
bet shoot me a DM whenever
Alright
currently I have plate foam and gummy mount and when I push the pcb to the back of my case some of my keys get very dim RGB due to the foam compressing over the LED
Holy fuck, sorry for the late answer! Thanks for your advice
Does lubing the stabs also make a drastic difference?
You just need the right dimensions and durometer hardness. You can get any, they do not have to be marketed towards keyboard modding.
Interesting, never really thought of that but I don’t use RGB so explains why I’d never notice really
yes
yes
i know, but i cant be arsed to
Alright man, if shipping from NA to EU is worth it to you.
well it isnt, it depends on what pricing he can get me on shipping lol
Yes
I get discounts on shipping thru my job so we’ll see
I get like 50% off
If it’s $20 to ship it’s like $10 for me
Yoo thats lit
Cause he couldn’t get them
i'll try to buy everything on wootings store as i never bought lube before
Hey guys, ordering stabs for my HE+... are these the ones that are currently preferred? The Clip-ins?
Screw ins
Yes but if you have no issues with the stock stabs then no need to buy new ones
I'm ordering Jade HEs and figured I should get some TX AP ones while they're in stock and paying for shipping...
But not sure anymore :\
You can just stick with the stock stabs and lube and tune them, but if you really want TX AP then you can get any version really as long as they're 1.6mm and include 6.25u spacebar
looks like the TKL has 6.25 & 7
I'll order them I guess and if I don't use them I'll keep them for another build
hey, does bag lubing spring switches work just as well as brush lubing them? if so, should I use 205G0 or EM50-L for it?
Bag lubing springs works fine but if you only have 205g0 or EM50 then those aren't gonna work
I ordered a grave shift oring in S... if I don't use plate mount stabs I wouldn't have the interference problem and should use a regular gummy (thicker) o ring right? Or wil the grave shift work with the screw ins?
You can brush lube the springs with the 205g0 tho @covert glade
oh :( i got the wooting lube kit so that's a shame
You can still brush lube them with the 205g0
I just wouldnt try to bag lube them with it
yeaah it's just a bit slower ig lol. oh well
It's not oily/thin enough
Yeah
The s works with screw ins, haven't tested with clip ins yet
Cam will try it later
You only need the S size ring if using Screw Ins
Can use M size for Clip Ins or Plate Mount
is disassembling the wooting two as simple as taking off the keycaps and unscrewing it? all the guides i saw were for the 60
I'll grab my s ring real quick to test clip ins
Yes
thank you!
Just as a last check, this is compatible together right?
Alumaze60
HE+
GraveShift S
TX AP Screw-In
I wouldnt recommend the TX AP Screw-Ins
arent you getting the module? it comes with screw in stabs,
Yes
He wants the best of the best
He said since he's spending already might as well
Ok so S size ring works with the Clip Ins, however it's not very snug and if turned upside down and shaken slightly, it will fall out
Good to know, it works but not great
Yep
ahhh so should I be ordering a different o ring?
I wonder if u can add tape at the side of the case to help lmao
It works with screw ins
TX AP stabs has tolerance issues with the plate, on top of that the stock stabs and TX AP stabs will sound exactly the same after tuning and balancing
Hes a beginner, i doubt he can tune stab properly
no point in getting TX AP stabs if they have a chance of not fitting and sound exactly the same, its a waste of money
Anyone can tune a stab
I mean yeah, but its also easy to fug up
And yeah basically what I tried to say
Tx is just fool proof
If no issues with current stabs, then don't need new ones
then... go with the stock stabs??? stock stabs are prelubed, TX AP screw ins arent gonna be prelubed. also its very easy to tune stabs.
my stock TX AP clip ins sounded like dog compared to my stock module stabs
I'm already like 500 or 600 CAD in it, so I thought to grab the TX APs in case while I'm ordering Jade HEs; but if you guys are sure the HE+ stock stabs are good to go then I'll just forget it
Here is how I mod my stabilizers. I get asked this a lot of my streams and honestly, I figured why not just record this so I can link this video instead of having to re-explain it every time. I hope you enjoy it. Please remember this video is only covering lubing and installing, some stabs like cherry clip-ins, you'll need to clip the bottom leg...
My stock ap clip in sounds better than the stock module so
prob got unlucky then
Stock stabs are fine
I just had left over clip in anyways from a previous board
Wish you guys could help me with the stabs I have on my current board 😦

I'm typing on a KBD8X MKIII with Durock V2s. I think I did a bad job on the shims because my left shift and right shift both sound terrrrrible
See what I mean, its easy to tune stab but its also easy to fug up
Just require some time and patience
Yeah it is easy to mess up but then you just redo
Ik certain people who said ah its pita cba HAHAHAHA
Certain people just really lack the patience
Its just trial and error
Yeah, a grease syringe will be your best friend usually
Recently I accidentally syringed too much lube LOL fml
Had to open up the stab again
Lol yeah, I don't like getting grease on my PCB under the stabs
Yeah that's what happened to me
Makes them feel weird
Shit sound wet, feels off
Yeah
I bought them all sorry
oml this happened to me so much when tuning my stabs
stabs are settling in I guess, not as bad as they were not not ideal
those shifts make me want to hurt myself
Lol yeah, I wipe the bottom of the stab multiple times after lubing just to make sure
I still need to do more tuning but cba, I still hear some rattle
I had a stab get stuck once because it just had too much grease under it
Wouldn't come back up
Oh yeah this happened to me once also
Basically i used 205g2 LOL shit was mega thicc
And accidentally overlubed
yeah mine got pretty stuck
and sounded wet it was kinda gross
Lol yeah they do sound wet if they get like that
I haven't used my L60s in awhile
Do you guys prefer the L45s or the Jades, in terms of sound?
Jades
I've yet to buy jades, soon™
The main thing for people to understand about the Jades vs every other HE switch currently, in terms of sound, is that the Jades are the only HE switch with a closed bottom currently.
In other words, the Jades produce two sounds when pressed, the downstroke when hitting the bottom housing and the upstroke of the stem hitting the top housing.
With every other HE switch right now, it's open bottom, so you don't really get a bottom out sound, you get one sound, being the upstroke.
Tha'ts why the Jades sound the most different compared to the other HE switches
Cant see any other switch with no holes also now unless they pay gat for license
Gateron pattern it
that makes so much sense
Did that finally go thru? I didn't know if they won that or not
I hope not
Me either
Idk also but probably will
lmfao
jade switches doesn't affect performance right?
no
yes and no
It has shorter travel distance
Otherwise they pretty much work as normal
Long pole on top
Lol you don't need long pole tbh but some people do, comes down to keycap tolerance
Mainly on the spacebar
Sorry last question about the Jades: should I be mounting them south facing if using cherry keycaps? I don't think the lekkers had this problem right?
That's an old issue
Molds have changed to account for it nowadays
Can face them anyway you want
excellent, thanks friend
I think the last thing then is finding a keycap set that matches the concrete grey Alumaze
South is only answer
Don’t listen to these north facing apologists
South facing is as god Cherry intended
New gat molds alleviate this issue
Although calder did say there was like 1-2 reports right
Unsure but leaning towards these 2 :\
Not that I know of but possibly
I like the right one
Cherry profile best
I haven't had any issues with my GMK sets and north facing
MTNU meh
Tolerance is the best!
Mercury better
imo
But its your board
Ahhhh GMK Oblivions might be it
dat aint gmk
-.-
i mean ur spending that much
might as well spend another 50
for gmk cyl olivia

someday inshallah
for anybody who has changed switches for the wooting, have you had to reorient the switches to acount for the normal issues that cherry keycaps face with north facing switches
This is a past issue. Not applicable anymore
explain?
i have south facing switches with no issues
no
the molds have been adjusted to fix these issues
^
yeah i use south facing indeed
i just put on the jades, so much better than lekker. thank you so much man
I have a tofu 60 redux mod build with some cherry keycaps can't wait
will post a picture later tonight after i mod it fr
Frankensteins are best
Frankenstein switch work with l45 too?
yes
Yeah that’s what I’m using
I mean they do, spring is the only thing that matters
wut
Frankenswitches are lekker stem+raptor body. Spring is what matters for 60 or 45
also can you fit gummy oring into the tofu60
Yes
Man the fucking PSU I got can’t work in my computer
After waiting for weeks for an extra cable I can’t even plug it in. So dumb ☠️
Need 3x 8-pins for my GPU
It only came with 2 cables so I was like hey can I get a third
So they sent it to me. But the PSU doesn’t even have slot for 3rd cable lol
So gotta send it back and get a different one 
what psu do u got?
I have a EVGA 1000w P6
But I’m having random black screens on default so need to trouble shoot components one at a time. So got the Thermaltake GF3 Snow 1200w
But alas ….
It’s the Thermaltake one that I can’t use
I’ve been rocking the EVGA one for a while
ah
Just random ahhhh black screens so have to isolate which component is corrupt so I can fix it
Useless lol
think its meant for 4000 series cards
Tempted to just buy a new GPU 
Why Thermaltake Psu??
bummer
yo guys quick question, some of you convinced me to lube my jades for better typing experience. I dont have any lube or kit, I wanna buy it off wootings store. Question is i saw some people putting all the springs in a bag and throwing some super lube in it , just shaking everything to essentially lube the springs. Is that good on the wooting too?
daddadd
worked fine for me and in comparison to hand lubing springs, I couldn't tell any difference. I'd still do it by hand though
Yes, it's called bag lubing. The lube for this method is Krytox GPL 105 (Some other people use Super Lube Oil)
It's just more quicker when it comes to lubing the springs.
You can either hand lube or bag lube the springs, your choice
mhmmhh thanks
I wanna pick the quick method for my first time, as i dont think it will matter enough for me to notice a difference
but at the same time idk where to buy it
Is it possible for me to mod the wooting 2he without breaking it if I’ve never modded a keyboard before
yes you can mod it without breaking it
just gotta unscrew everything and then unplug the daughterboard im pretty sure
where should u open wooting 60he from the back or the front for tape mod
what parts in particular? Either Wooting or your nearest keyboard vendor will have the tools
Krytox GPL 105
Amazon has them
only thing you need to 'worry' about is not stripping the screws or their threads since the case is plastic. otherwise it's pretty simple to open up
you got a link?
Amazon.com: Krytox GPL 105
mhmmhh i cant find the same on european amazon
try this instead https://eloquentclicks.com/collections/lube/products/krytox-gpl-105
oh ye this looks good, tysm
also man, hand-lubed jades on the Two HE make a world of difference. clean and clacky, no rattle
maybe a bit too loud on the 60HE+ for my liking though
Just switched to the tofu redux, any keycaps recommendation?
I highly recommend the keycaps you like best
I was thinking about some blank keycaps
Then I think thats a good choice!
ceramic white blank keycaps? 🤔
where to get
cerakey website
aren't those going to be even more expensive
I just didn't ceramic ones to be that expensive aswell
They are VERY expensive since mold they use was expensive to make
And the technique costs a lot
My only problem w cerakey is no ISO
Since enter key is yet impossible to make
Just put enter vertically and youll be left with a beautiful hole
ISO is better
I need ISO lol
join the dark side 
*to hell with white plates
just get black pc plate 🤑
you wouldnt have happened to do the same mods with the keyboard but using stem swapped raptors would you?
Not yet
Hii does anyone have issues with using tx clip in stabs with gateron jade switches
i kind of want to order just to try them but honestly kinda hard to beat that sound test for me lol
that looks sick, imma need u to slide the link
Are these clip ins? Plate mounted? PCB mounted? I'm unsure, it doesn't say. Looking at long poles because I am using Magnetic Jades
Stabilizer set includes one size 6.25U (WK), 7U (WKL) and four 2U pieces. Sets now include both 6.25U and 7U stab wires! Introducing NEW TX Stabilizers with a 1mm longer stem!Implementing a patented technology, kin25 of TX Keyboard has improved the design of Cherry clip-ins to minimize rattling and prevent wire pop-out
they're clip ins
https://minokeys.com/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-long-pole?variant=44452769038578
Are these also clip ins? How do you do know, like what should I look for to find out?
Stabilizer set includes one size 6.25U (WK), 7U (WKL) and four 2U pieces. The newest "ALMOST PERFECT" TX Stabilizers!Implementing a patented technology, kin25 of TX Keyboard has improved the design of Cherry clip-ins to minimize rattling and prevent wire pop-out (using stab stoppers included with the set). The patented
They are also clip ins
it's the design of the stabs and the description
Man idk how I missed it, it's right there. Long day lol. Thank you!
so I swapped most of my Two HE to Jades and it feels hella nice, but definitely getting wobble on spacebar. these would be the right stabs to replace, right? since Jades have a total travel of 3.5mm
(need to order another set of Jades to finish the swap anyways, and I'm not really a fan of how o-rings feel on stabs)
You would want long pole stabilizers, not those. You can also try orings on the stab stems https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399
so shorter travel switches are not always long pole?
the examples gateron provides are
Total travel: 3.4mm (such as KS-9 Pro silver, G pro 2.0 silver, Ink V2 pink & black switch).
can't quite find examples for all of them but I do see reviews saying the G Pro 2.0 Silvers are long poles
Anyone have any recommendation, if I should get the fr4 plate, or just the tofu redux + brass weight is gd enough?
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wait i bough tx ap screw in stabs. did i need tx ap long pole screw in stabs for jades?
May not need them but they are designed for long pole switches yes
ok cool thanks
well might as well buy switch films while im at it. do you know if i can use kbd fans switch films if im doing raptor stem swap? going to buy raptors and lekkers too try them out.
Did you test long pole or normal versions? The ones reporting issues were using long pole? Do you suspect this is a fitment issue with the tx stabs or the plate? I just ordered a set of long pole screws in, but am debating if I should order a set of clip ins too just in case.
If I was using the module, I'd stick with the pre-installed screw in stabs but I have the prebuilt 60HE+
Oof
They don't work on steel plate
I'm using the PC plate

would be nice if they gave you starting force then




