🔧│keyboard_modding

[bitter valve]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?_pos=2&_sid=d939b677d&_ss=r&variant=44792748343519

We need POM HE switch

[halcyon sparrow]

THE GOAT

Thank you both

[median spade]

now we just wait fo them to be on amazon right

[halcyon sparrow]

My jiggle peaks with these should be top tier

[bitter valve]

yeah, not there yet, also why this thing costs $20 lol

[halcyon sparrow]

$0.20 a count for that craftsmanship? We are blessed

That definitely has no wobble

[bitter valve]

hahaha, better than your regular switch

[sacred jay]

idc about gimmicky HE switches with mid materials that i have out of necessity, idc about pom pc OR nylon. call me when you have UPE blends, milky tops, ink bottoms, conical springs, all that

jk dual rail cool

but where the materials at

[agile grove]

gateron is stubborn

[bitter valve]

few years and we might see that

[agile grove]

most HE switches are focusing on RGB rn because HE is usually gamer centric

[agile grove]

years?? at the rate we're getting HE switches, it'll probably be months.

[sacred jay]

conical springs will be the godsend for osu

well actually raw speed is being reached by aim players but still itll become piss easy

[bitter valve]

not trying to give false hopes lol

[agile grove]

its not even false hopes at this point, we're getting a new HE switch like every week it feels.

[bitter valve]

I really like that wooting is literally converting gamers to custom kb builders

[bitter valve]

haven't seen a lot since January. The last significant switch was Jades, because of closed bottom. Dual rail is good and all, but is only to fix wobble which is not really a concern for Jades.

Other that than, I haven't seen any major material/design changes

[glacial wind]

Yeah honestly it might be awhile before we see something that’s significantly different

Gateron already did their releases for now, so it’d be up to another company to want to make a new style of he switch

[untold wigeon]

does wooting deliver on weekends

[agile grove]

wooting doesnt deliver at all, its up to your courier to decide which days they ship

[harsh dove]

What we’ve been saying

Fuck these RGB switches

Only people who suck at video games care about RGB

if you want RGB go buy a Corsair, Razer, Steelseries

Keep that crap away from customs

I’ll die on this hill

[agile grove]

well I dont think gateron is making these switches for customs tbh, I think they wanna make that bag and have other companies use them in their HE boards

[harsh dove]

Ofc

[agile grove]

and HE boards usually are gaming focused

[harsh dove]

And want them to be RGB compatible

[harsh dove]

Yep

Which means RGB focused

Which makes no sense

How tf you see your target at 100m with the rainbow in your eyes

Real gamers don’t use RGB

[agile grove]

gamers love RGB bro

[harsh dove]

Oh I know

I have a friend who says all my customs are ugly af

And he’d rather have his Razer keyboard

[agile grove]

I feel like its always the pros who have rainbow vomit lmao

[harsh dove]

His room is RGB puke

[harsh dove]

That’s cause they too lazy to change it or don’t know how too

Lot of pros don’t know shit about computers

Even something as simple as changing RGB

[agile grove]

true

a lot of pros just get whatever snake oil that promises "best performance"

[harsh dove]

Essentially

Or what someone told them

[agile grove]

a lot of em' will just drop a couple grand on upgrading their PC to run comp games which are usually stupid optimized

because "the best makes me better!!!"

[agile grove]

or whatever their sponsors give them

[harsh dove]

Also very true

[harsh dove]

I’ve heard some iffy things from some of those “PC Optimizer” Companies

From Streamers

They aren’t very good from what I can tell

Better off watching some YouTube videos and researching a bit and optimize your PC yourself

[agile grove]

yea

I could see maybe with like overclocking wanting someone who is experienced

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Forsure

[agile grove]

but for most comp games you arent going to need to overclock

[harsh dove]

But even nowadays you can do a “dirty Overlock” and call it a day

As long as it’s stable

Yeah and OCs nowadays get you like a 5% increase on performance

It’s not much

I still Undervolt and OC my stuff anyway

[harsh dove]

Stuff I don’t need

[shrewd dragon]

wdym you dont need

[harsh dove]

I don’t need a tofu lol

I just bought it

[shrewd dragon]

Bruh

flexin

[harsh dove]

Bought it for testing stuff

As reference for when people are using tofus

And have questions

[shrewd dragon]

Ja i wanna test stuff too

and i was tempted to get a redux

[median spade]

What color

Still black?

[shrewd dragon]

are you using the alumaze ?

or any other kind of case im unaware of yet? i need more info for my next Project

[harsh dove]

Salvation

I have an alumaze

[harsh dove]

White E Coat

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

CF Plate as well

To mess with

[shrewd dragon]

have u tried it already?

[harsh dove]

No

[strange blaze]

How much was shipping? If i buy from kbdfans i have 40€ shipping💀

[median spade]

Can already tell he got this from Divinikey in Cali

[harsh dove]

Yep

[median spade]

Shipping is $8-$16 depending

[harsh dove]

Yeah was like $5

[bitter valve]

oc is literally dying, you can't boost your performance by 30-50% anymore.

[median spade]

Ram OC still alive and well

But that’s if you’re crazy enough like me

[fluid ravine]

yo can i have that thing right there

that thing in the box

[median spade]

Have my 13900k at 5.9/4.6 and ram at 7200 with tighter timings currently

[harsh dove]

I got you lol

[bitter valve]

well, yeah, but you can find info on that. It's not as complicated as CPU oc

[fluid ravine]

betttt

[harsh dove]

Only thing I care about is that brush

[bitter valve]

undervolt is a new movement

[fluid ravine]

i took apart my wooting at school today lmaooo

[median spade]

Ram OC way more complicated then CPU OC tbh

[fluid ravine]

was a mess

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have mine OCd

[fluid ravine]

yurrrrrr

whats in the kbdfans box?

[median spade]

Tofu redux

[fluid ravine]

no the black one

[bitter valve]

Hmm, seemed way easier for me when I fucked around with it, but it's subjective I suppose

I understand RAM slightly more than CPU

[median spade]

Well you need to do primaries and subtimings then test

[bitter valve]

yeah, but you can find other peeps profiles and start from there, it will work in the most cases
With CPU you need to find values for your installed chip and deviations between same chips are way more significant

From what I've seen/tested, might not necessarily be right.

[untold wigeon]

should get mine on monday do u use foam in urs?

[fluid ravine]

me with my 12700

[bitter valve]

me too lol

but the next one will deffs be X3D

[untold wigeon]

worth lol?

[fluid ravine]

gpu?

[bitter valve]

thockfather uses these I believe, or CAM

[fluid ravine]

yeah i wanna get a amd cpu or whatnot

[bitter valve]

3080 12gb

evga🥲

I hate nvidia for how they treated them...

[untold wigeon]

imma get them

[fluid ravine]

o

[untold wigeon]

no need for orings

with thewse

[fluid ravine]

me with my 4060ti 16gb

[bitter valve]

same results tbh

[fluid ravine]

its a prebuilt dont worry

didnt buy separately 👍

[bitter valve]

ah, I built mine pre-4th gen

now waiting for 5th to upgrade

I swear, will do a water loop this time, wish me luck lol

[fluid ravine]

i wish you luck 🙏

[agile grove]

is it really that worth it?

[bitter valve]

thank you 😂

[fluid ravine]

i wanna spray paint my pc case 😂

[bitter valve]

for temps? 100%
Unless, you are in a tiny room.

but even then you will see better results

[agile grove]

just fill the case with ice bro

easy

[bitter valve]

yeah, liquid nitrogen lol

seen dude who routed his radiators to be outside

probably really sweet temps during winter lol

[fallen crag]

Water loop and liquid metal ? 😄

[bitter valve]

don't forget sanding lol

[fallen crag]

Of course, needs to be flat.
Was thinking about routing a heat exchanger that uses ground water to cool down xD

[median spade]

I delidded my 13900k and use a copper ihs myself

[bitter valve]

interesting idea 😄

[bitter valve]

This is the way!

[median spade]

Ive delidded all my cpus tbh except for 5800x3D

[fallen crag]

Im a little too scared to demage my 5950x

[bitter valve]

I prefer not to, cause they go to my friends, oince I upgrade lol

[median spade]

hey you damage it

then it's o;kay and you just upgrade

[fallen crag]

Next update is planned for 25-26

Then i go all out on the fastest tech again xD

[fallen crag]

Also the decision against it was during the time, where you couldnt get shit.. Was lucky i got the CPU and GPU on launch, seconds before the were sold out.

[static tendon]

My wooting module feels warm to the touch. I can feel the case warm up. Not hot by any means but definitely warmer than my table or something. Is something like that normal? It’s been in 7 hours of constant usage with 100% brightness

[agile grove]

is tachyon on? a little warmness is normal.

[static tendon]

It is

[agile grove]

checks out. tachyon draws a good amount of power, you should be all good.

if its excessively hot then thats when you should worry.

mine also gets hot (in a redux), usually around the top part of the case and even more so by the USB port.

[static tendon]

Sounds good. It’s definitely warmer than my previous keyboards but it’s been this way since I’ve hit 100% brightness with tachyon enabled

But it does look good 😎

[agile grove]

yessir

matches your setup really nicely

[static tendon]

It really does match well

I was thinking to maybe change out my keycaps to something lighter and change out my mousepad in the next couple months

But it does tie together nicely right now

[agile grove]

mine is somewhat out of place since its the only colorful thing on my desk lol, but its all good because its a darker color it matches fine with the other black peripherals.

[static tendon]

Got any pics?

[agile grove]

I could take one rn

[static tendon]

I’ve had this mousepad for years btw 😂 been washed multiple times as well

But it’s showing its age

Well worth the money. Just ready for something new

[agile grove]

looks pretty good for being years old, most mousepads I see on here look disgusting and grey

[static tendon]

I might stick to the blue color scheme though. If not blue I’d do purple and match some purple keycaps or something

Yeah it’s been well kept for sure

[static tendon]

I was thinking you had a rainbow keyboard or something. It looks clean, the pop of color is very nice, adds personality

[agile grove]

this is my setup at my mom’s, i’ll take a pic when i’m at my dad’s if I remember.

[static tendon]

Some setups are very bland with black or white colors, not exactly a bad thing but nothing to really stand out or brighten the workspace

[bitter valve]

LEDs also produce a good bit of heat. Arguably more that tachyon. My case is warm also, tachyon is disabled on typing profile.

[static tendon]

Ok gotcha. Good to know. That’s what I expected but wanted to check in, in case it seemed off

[agile grove]

both combined creates more heat aswell, but tachyon actually might create more heat than 100% LEDs

[agile grove]

thanks! we hate rainbow vomit here

[bitter valve]

No, all good, just adding to the conversation.

[agile grove]

I have some more pics in #1203701290610204742

[bitter valve]

Yeah, power consumption goes through the roof

[agile grove]

camera doesnt do the green justice, looks a lot more saturated irl

[static tendon]

Oh yeah it does. I had to upgrade my usb switcher to even power it properly otherwise the module would spam random keys and go crazy

[agile grove]

it do be like that

[static tendon]

It’s all working now but I had to keep brightness at like 30% to keep tachyon mode on previously

Now I can run it at 100% brightness tachyon enabled without issues

[agile grove]

the world isnt ready for wooting 😔

[bitter valve]

for their 8k polling/scanning 80HE for sure lol

I can see the kids crying when their CPU will just give up lol

I personally don't even use 8k polling on my mouse(need to buy a separate dongle, which I didn't)

And I haven't seen in-game situations where faster scanning would significantly change the situation. Played Warzone for what it's worth.

[static tendon]

I have the old gen super light so it uses the slow polling rate being 1k or whatever it was

I’d use 8k if I had it though. Even if I didn’t notice it but I get the the annoyance of using some additional dongle

[bitter valve]

yeah, mine is 1k as well

But I just don't see the point, unless, of course, the game is literally your job and you are damn good at it

[static tendon]

Yeah makes sense

[agile grove]

wooting has confirmed this shouldnt be an issue

[bitter valve]

Ah, nice then, haven't seen it

[agile grove]

the way mice and keyboards work are very different, and the 80he shouldnt have the same issues

[bitter valve]

gotcha, that's good

[agile grove]

that said, 8k is still wildly unnecessary lmao

but, its pretty hype how they push hardware

and while it may be unnecessary, its gonna do wonders for marketing

[median spade]

“Why does Fortnite frame rate drop with 8k 80he?????”

I’m ready for it

Already funny seeing it with mice

[bitter valve]

hahahaha

[agile grove]

"shouldnt 8k make it faster!!!!!!!"

"wooting scam dont buy wottle evr!!!!!!!"

[median spade]

[bitter valve]

yeah, I hate people who are blaming their skill issues on the hardware, like bro cmon, you just suck, that's okay

[agile grove]

https://www.youtube.com/live/EQzqN-fkO9E?si=ruaFqNe-2yrAUpw_&t=456

[median spade]

Surely I won’t lose to aim assist once I get 80he 8k and my op1 8k with 360hz oled!

[bitter valve]

try 540hz lol

[agile grove]

dont forget their 4090 ti and water cooling

(they still suck) (their parents are rich)

[bitter valve]

Now I'm debating whether I should drive to Razer store and get a dongle to confirm that it wouldn't change anything for me lmao

[agile grove]

8k fs isnt worth it, esp not on razer

p sure razer has 4k scanning

[median spade]

It was good

I just didn’t keep it as TN

And I mainly play apex/finals so 540hz kind of wasted

[agile grove]

max I would go is 2k, anything above that and you're risking game support and battery life

[static tendon]

Yeah 360hz is old news 😤

[bitter valve]

I have 144, I think I might keep it like that, but upgrade to 4k, getting old lol

[median spade]

Waiting for Best Buy to restock msi 360hz Oled so I can use my gift card

[agile grove]

isnt there like, 2 540hz monitors?

[median spade]

Soon to be 3

[static tendon]

There is yeah

[agile grove]

we stan best buy

[bitter valve]

can't do 2 without a dongle anyway

[agile grove]

4k is overkill for gaming and is too expensive imo, get yourself a good 240hz 2k monitor.

[median spade]

Right now I rock 390hz for competitive stuff and then I use my aw3423dw for singe player

Since I like smaller screen for fps

[static tendon]

I was also considering 6 monitor set up but the monitor mounts are super expensive and I would need a additional docking station to power the extra display

[bitter valve]

not for single player games lol

[agile grove]

fair

[bitter valve]

(waiting on stalker)

[static tendon]

Too many extra issues with 6 monitors

[agile grove]

but I was assuming you meant comp

[bitter valve]

I'm too old for that, honestly, can't keep up with controller kids and don't really have that much time to play anymore

But yeah, for comp I would probably stay on 2k

[agile grove]

no one can keep up with roller kids bro, they have built in cheats

I used to play FN on roller and my friends and I got bodied by like lvl 300 console players

[median spade]

Always man

4 stack PlayStation

[bitter valve]

I did pretty decent in warzone, but stopped playing for a few months and coming back was not enjoyable at all

[strange blaze]

Has anyone band-aid modded stock module stabs, if yes, did it sound and feel better or worse?

[agile grove]

fr bro, whats worse is we usually played trios and would get double pumped by a team full of sweaty playstation tryhards

xbox players are usually better ime, but they're rarer

why is trios the sweatiest gamemode?

[median spade]

iirc everyone plays on PlayStation as it has stronger aim assist then Xbox

[bitter valve]

hahaha, warzone felt like that also. like you are literally playing tournament every match, can't make any mistakes

[bitter valve]

awareness, quad brings chaos

duo is mainly ratty

[agile grove]

true. solos is also pretty sweaty but its playable, duos is more likely to be randos matching up or solo queuers, and squads is just pure chaos.

trios are usually super coordinated

[bitter valve]

yeah, my most wins was probably trio

[agile grove]

very specific team amount means more people being friends

trios is an odd amount to play with randos

[strange blaze]

Ay small question rq, i‘ve never really sanded down anything on keyboards, if i decide to sand down my pc plate should i just use normal sandpaper or is there a special one for this kind of thing

[bitter valve]

yeah, but then in quad they are playing till one death lol

[harsh dove]

Keyboard holder

[static tendon]

Love the stand

I was looking into them the other day

[bitter valve]

I used this one

[agile grove]

most sandpaper should work, just make sure its fine enough to actually sand the plate rather than chewing it up

[bitter valve]

just remember to not sand around switch lol
You want to sand far-right wall cutout for the stab and far left, there's a notches there

that's how I did it at least

but basically anything would work

[agile grove]

I havent done it myself so I dont know what grit is generally recommended

[bitter valve]

The lower the better, but not too fine, cause it'll take ages lol

[agile grove]

nah just take days

[strange blaze]

Alr so i just have to use a rather fine sandpaper and im good right

[bitter valve]

yeah

[strange blaze]

Luckly i got a shit ton of sandpaper at home lmao

[bitter valve]

These two sides is what you need to sand down

[agile grove]

this would void the warranty right? nvm

[bitter valve]

And as you can see, I didn't send a whole lot, still had to force the stab in, but it didn't cause any issues with presses

[bitter valve]

for the plate?

You can buy a new plate

It's not like you are sanding a PCB lol

[tawdry tree]

Comparing the .stp of the 60HE’s plate; the dimensions of the holes and the physical dimensions of TX AP and Staebies stabilizers, without leniency in the material the plate is too tight for their housing to fit through.

[median spade]

E white too lit

[agile grove]

true

[harsh dove]

Its noice

[median spade]

Time to get color caps now

Like this

[agile grove]

if you shine a light on it does it hurt your eyes lol

[median spade]

This my fave set I own

[fluid ravine]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[agile grove]

clean, would look better if you painted the accent to match the rose(?) color of the esc and enter

[cyan adder]

why would you do that

[harsh dove]

I do need a colored set

[agile grove]

to fit stabs

[median spade]

GMK purple nights

Buy that

[harsh dove]

I think the gold plays well off the pink tbh, that's why I got the Olivias

[agile grove]

some third party stabilizers dont fit the plate, so you have to sand it to make them fit

[bitter valve]

Ah, that’s what I thought! So CAM’s fit because of deviations

[bitter valve]

Long pole tx ap don’t fit in my plate

[bitter valve]

See, you are too fast lmao

[strange blaze]

Am i tripping or is that an accidental optical illusion

[cyan adder]

hm ok

[floral gale]

are there any good gummy o rings for the wooting 60he+ on amazon

[strange blaze]

Good to know, i would prob have to sand even more since staebies are i think a bit bulkier

[agile grove]

for burger mount or friction mount?

[strange blaze]

Probably burger right? Cuz isnt it that you cant friction mount the module with stock stabs

[agile grove]

not anymore, you can friction* mount with the new graveshift small o-ring

https://mech.land/products/graveshift-o-rings

[floral gale]

friction

[strange blaze]

Ohhh interesting

Any sound tests out yet with it?

[harsh dove]

In what way

[agile grove]

doubt you're really gonna find something on amazon, check out the link I sent above. you're gonna want a small o-ring, the hardness can be whatever but most recommend something around 40a. the harder the o-ring is the harder it is to get it out of the case.

[agile grove]

dont think so, should sound pretty much exactly the same tho

[strange blaze]

Click the pic and slightly shake it up and down (on phone obviously) and it makes it seem the backround moves but the KB doesnt lmao

[agile grove]

I unplugged my keyboard and my computer bsod

[strange blaze]

Well thats that then

Man idrk if i should holee mod or bandaid mod my stabs

Both might feel to mushy

[tawdry tree]

Yes, just leniency in the plate and a little in the stabilizer housings.

[bitter valve]

Hahaha

[bitter valve]

Yeah, for sure, just make sure to try it often, so you don’t oversand

[bitter valve]

Yeah, annoying tho, wish I was the lucky one haha

[floral gale]

im going to be using clip in stabs instead of the stock screw in ones, so in that case i should be going for the medium one instead right?

[bitter valve]

Yeah, medium should fit

If you won’t have issues with your clip-in, that is

[gaunt marten]

tx stabs and wooting for mine is very very tight

[bitter valve]

Lucky bastard lol

[gaunt marten]

fug wrong delete

[bitter valve]

Hahaha

[gaunt marten]

at first i thought it didnt work LMAO

but it was the foam interfering

🗿

but its tight af

im also looking to get a gummy o ring probs a 30a one

[bitter valve]

Alr, let’s see if I feel the diff now lol

[agile grove]

YOU ACTUALLY DID IT

[bitter valve]

That’s what I have

[bitter valve]

Bro I told you

Hahaha

[gaunt marten]

i dont atleast on 144hz monitor 💀

so i just run 1k

[marsh saffron]

There won't be any noticeable difference in anything below 240hz

[bitter valve]

Had a nice talk with razer guys, he said for my dpi (1000-1300) I won’t feel past 4k

[marsh saffron]

Let alone even on 240+ hz you won't really feel anything

[gaunt marten]

use 1600

for consistent 4k polling rate

[marsh saffron]

I use 4k dpi for 4k polling

[gaunt marten]

[marsh saffron]

1600 won't be consistent 4k

You'd want at least 3200

[gaunt marten]

it is consistent

[marsh saffron]

Either way, even on a 240hz monitor using 4k dpi and polling rate it feels basically no different than 4k dpi at 1k polling

[agile grove]

laughs in 1k polling

[marsh saffron]

At best, it's an incredibly slight increase in smoothness

[gaunt marten]

just use mouestester 1.4 if u wanna test

[marsh saffron]

I did

[gaunt marten]

at the sacrifice of battery life

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I don't even use 4k/2k

[gaunt marten]

which is why i dont use

[marsh saffron]

I just use 1k for battery life as above 1k is pointless

The difference is genuinely just not worth it

[gaunt marten]

to each of their own, some people say they notice it but i sure hell dont

[marsh saffron]

At 4k I get like a third of the battery life if not less, for a almost unnoticeable difference in smoothness

[marsh saffron]

I'm usually very sensitive to latency differences and smoothness differences etc

And can barely notice a difference at all on 240hz

[agile grove]

not to mention that some games dont support above 1k

[marsh saffron]

Cough apex

Shit dies on 2k let alone 4k

[agile grove]

cough ultrakill

[marsh saffron]

Mw3 runs stable 4k, and still can barely at all notice a difference if I'm trying my absolute hardest to notice it

[spice flint]

Anyone here with experience using lekkers and other he switches? It's my assumption that any non-wooting he switches just arent as fast but I wanna hear from someone who knows

[marsh saffron]

They wouldn't be any slower

The technology is in the pcb not the switch

[gaunt marten]

switches arent slower

[marsh saffron]

Unless the switch has a higher than 0.1mm actuation latency is no different

[gaunt marten]

firmware, pcb, software plays a big role

[marsh saffron]

Obviously a 0.3mm initial actuation will be slower than 0.1mm

[gaunt marten]

anyways theres plenty of gateron ks20 line switches that are better than lekkers

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

Gateron jades are the ones I see being talked greatly about most

[gaunt marten]

downside/upside is that its long pole

down side u need long pole stabs with certain keycaps

[marsh saffron]

Yeah Ive seen a few people saying that

[gaunt marten]

tx stabs does have long pole stabs but i aint buying new ones

🗿

u can also use geonworks spacers

[marsh saffron]

Im waiting for lekker 2.0 whenever those come out

[gaunt marten]

or scuff way and use tape on the keycap

[gaunt marten]

q2/q3

[spice flint]

Do I send a video in this channel thats confusing me or is there somewhere else I should do that

[marsh saffron]

Oh they have an expected time now nice

[gaunt marten]

they said 80he launch with lekkers 2.0

yesterday stream

[marsh saffron]

Sweet

[gaunt marten]

#🌟│wooting80he message summary courtesy of sno

[marsh saffron]

White alumaze and wrist rest👀

[agile grove]

doesnt mean lekker 2.0s are gonna release with the 80he

[gaunt marten]

Did I missread it then, Lekkers 2.0 incoming and will be in 80HE

🗿

[agile grove]

pretty much confirming they're coming and that they will be in the 80he, doesnt specify if they're releasing with the 80he

[gaunt marten]

U make a fairpoint tho, they didn't specifically specify it

Time will tell ig

[agile grove]

im just assuming they're coming soom™️

[median spade]

lekkers 2.0 will surely solve the sound issue of HE

[bitter valve]

Copium

As per mouse polling rate, i can absolutely feel smoothness increase up to 4k, but I don’t think it’ll be significant in games, so 1k is fine as far as I’m concerned

[polar girder]

4k at 3200 dpi is pretty maxed out

8k has inconsistent performance for some

But some people think anything about 144hz isn’t visible to the eye so yeah

1k solid for most lol

Yeah. Need more HE

I’m bored now

Need boxstem

[median spade]

I use 3200 dpi myself

and 8k no issues

[polar girder]

Yeah 8k can work fine.

[median spade]

If it doesn't work for people they just have too many things open or an unoptimized system tbh

Works on every game for me

[bitter valve]

Do you decrease pointer speed in win?

[median spade]

Yep

otherwise it's way too fast

I fine tune it in regedit as well

[bitter valve]

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking

[polar girder]

Yeah exactly. You can change pointer speed for windows and sens in game accordingly

[median spade]

mine is 3.25 but this is an example

[bitter valve]

Yeah, i used 4

I like how this is my hobby but I haven’t really touched any games in a while😂

Besides stupid ones that’ll run on a potato

[loud zephyr]

As much as I'd love for my Wooting to feel and sound like a plateless with a Nixie, I'd be happy for HE to evolve into its own thing. For better or worse HE should be distinguishable and not blend in with the crowd imo

[median spade]

Well depends on if it evoles into something good which it probably won't at this point

As much as I love my switches to sound like ratting plastic if people want that sound then by all means

I just want a board that has good performance and sounds like my customs

[loud zephyr]

Jade's have already made improvements to less rattle at least, and if that's the best that's possible then so be it. It's decent enough

[median spade]

Yeah I'm using jades with lubed top housing and it's enough at the moment

but they just kind of sound like generic lubed switch or nothing now, but beats what it was

[bitter valve]

Different housing materials are definitely possible

[blissful sluice]

IIRC two notches down on pointer speed = exactly 1/2 distance

So if you’re used to 800dpi movement on desktop you can bump from the middle notch down two notches and up the dpi to 1600 and have identical motion with lower latency

[bitter valve]

Ah, that’s good to know, thanks!

[blissful sluice]

Yeah a lot of people don’t know it

[marsh saffron]

Damn I just use 4k with default pointer speed

I just got used to how fast it was

[brave lagoon]

I am trying to do the final assembly and I think this small screw is too short to reach the whole

Can someone please explain

[fluid ravine]

thats the screw for the pcb and plate im pretty sure

[brave lagoon]

Yes

Exactly

[fluid ravine]

if its a silver screw then its for the pcb and plate

[brave lagoon]

It’s impossible

It can’t reach

[fluid ravine]

its a 4mm screw im pretty sure

but other than that yeah it wont fit or what not

check if your pcb has missing screws

should be 8 in total

[brave lagoon]

WhatPCB

[fluid ravine]

The back of your module

[brave lagoon]

I checked and that’s all the screws I have

It was different screws

[fluid ravine]

you sure they all the same screws

[brave lagoon]

I used it already

The back of my module is done

[fluid ravine]

can i see a pic just incase

[brave lagoon]

@fluid ravine whatever screws you’re talking about I already used it for the back of my module

Sure

[brave lagoon]

What pic

[loud zephyr]

is that a Tofu?

[fluid ravine]

a pic of your pcb

[brave lagoon]

@fluid ravine I already screwed everything together

[fluid ravine]

nvm

[brave lagoon]

Can I use longer ones

Cuz I seriously can’t screw em in

[loud zephyr]

just leave it out, I only use the 4 outer screws

[brave lagoon]

Wait

Are the back of the modules screws suppose to be silver or white

[fluid ravine]

Yes you can use longer ones but im not gonna lie, if im looking at the pictures from earlier, i dont see a standoff for the middle

[fluid ravine]

silver

[brave lagoon]

And there’s a total of 8 white ones correct?

Cuz I had white screws

But I used the white screws to screw the back ones

[fluid ravine]

silver ones

[fluid ravine]

incorrect

there should be 8 silvers and they are for the back of the pcb

[brave lagoon]

Oh shit

So the silver ones I’m using is wrong?? Is that why I can’t screw it in

The others worked though

They fit

The last two just couldn’t

As you can see this one fit

[fluid ravine]

again im pretty sure you have not applied the standoff for the middle

nor do you need them tbh

major issue is you using the wrong screws on both ends

[brave lagoon]

So what do I do

[fluid ravine]

change out the screws from the back of the pcb with the 8 silver screws

Thats a first

[brave lagoon]

Okay

[fluid ravine]

In the tofu by defult, there should be 4 standoff mold, 2 on the top left and right and 2 on the sides

[brave lagoon]

So the white ones are for my aluminum case?

[fluid ravine]

there is also 2 standoff placement on the bottom and middle, those are optional

[fluid ravine]

yes to screw you module into the case

[brave lagoon]

So these last 2 screws are for the back

There was a total of 5

I swear

I screws 3 in already

Are u sure there’s suppose to be 8 of these screws? I just wasn’t paying attention?

[fluid ravine]

fyi those 2 gold pieces are the standoffs i was talking about, and you didnt install them which is the reason why you couldnt screw in the screw earlier

[brave lagoon]

Ohhhhh

[fluid ravine]

yes there is suppose to be 8 screws for the pcb and plate

and 4-6 screws for the module and case

[brave lagoon]

Holy thank u so much

@fluid ravine so do I disassemble them again

[fluid ravine]

oh shi you have a alumaze i see

i thought you had a tofu

but otherwise yeah take out the module

check if you use the correct screws for the pcb and plate

[brave lagoon]

Okay I’m taking it out

[agile grove]

dont install the middle standoff, the 60he doesnt use it

[brave lagoon]

Oh

[fluid ravine]

by default

no but its optional

[brave lagoon]

I’m confused

So for the last two silver screws, do I apply the last two gold screws?

[agile grove]

no, it entirely just doesnt use it. period.

[agile grove]

install one in the hole by the spacebar

[brave lagoon]

@agile grove will that make the last two silver screws work?

[agile grove]

correct screws for connecting the plate and PCB come pre-installed, howver im assuming you took them out. in that case, they look like silver screws with a flat part on the underside of the head of the screw.

[agile grove]

the last 1, the middle screw location isnt used, but yes

[brave lagoon]

So I use the white screws for the case and silver for the back of the module?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[agile grove]

case screws are either white or silver, since the alumaze and module come with screws

[brave lagoon]

Okay I’ll check

[agile grove]

did you unscrew the pcb?

[fleet summit]

Is it just me or unlube jades feels springy on release?

[fluid ravine]

ok i gtg now gl

[agile grove]

thats probably due to the spring inside the switch

/s

[fleet summit]

No sht jose

Guess ill just lube em

[marsh saffron]

Taking the springs out might fix it

[brave lagoon]

@fluid ravine

@agile grove

So I took it out

And found 6 silver screws

[fluid ravine]

Lemme see the pcb rq

[brave lagoon]

What’s the pcb again

[fluid ravine]

The back of the module

May I see the back of the module

[brave lagoon]

@fluid ravine there

Are those the screws you’re talking about?

[agile grove]

looks fine

[fluid ravine]

Yeah..

Ok I literally gtg bye

[agile grove]

see that hole in the bottom rightish of the case? install the gold screw there.

[brave lagoon]

This 1?

I think it might work I’ll try it

I know what u mean now

[agile grove]

no the one closer to the bottom

[brave lagoon]

I know what u mean

Yeah

I’m doing it rn

@agile grove you’re the best dude

It worked

@agile grove also do I need to use this

[hot raven]

@harsh dove How many keyboard did you have ?

[daring helm]

maybe i should've not done pe foam mod

it feels bad

but sounds better

[static tendon]

I don't know the exact number but CAM does have 2 i'm aware of being a wooting with Alumaze60 case and the other also a wooting with a Wilba Tech salvation case

[untold wigeon]

what is PE foam mod?

[river rune]

dont do it, its lame

lol

[static tendon]

Just weighed in my keyboard and it weighed in at 3.5lbs, or 1,589 grams

Hefty

[daring helm]

Putting pe foam between pcb and plate

But due to magnetic switches

It makes it feel mushy

How the hell did I not think of that

[untold wigeon]

ah damn ye

[river rune]

My redux came in today so here’s a sound test like I said I would do. Stock wooting module, stock jades, pbtfans bow, redux case with redux foam, one layer tape mod

[untold wigeon]

u didnt even use poron pad for the module?

[river rune]

Nopee

Oh I forgot I did touch up the lube for the spacebar stabs

[untold wigeon]

looks nice tho

get my redux on monday/tuesday

[sour blade]

valorant

[glacial wind]

lol i was looking for wooting on the keyboard section and didn't realize the giant blue part was wooting

where is this data graphing from btw? pros?

[ancient hill]

Here is data for pro’s directly from prosettings

[harsh dove]

Tofu/Brass x Jades x CF Plate x Gummy Mount x No Plate Foam x Tofu Case Foam

[strange blaze]

Holy shit thats insane

Just the spacebar sounds a bit hollow imo

[strange blaze]

Thats actually insane how dominant wooting is in valorant

[burnt flare]

Does anyone know if I could use this for tape modding?

[hot raven]

just test the tape and see if is very sticky or not

[indigo oasis]

waht is the best stabs for thie wootiung

[untold wigeon]

Stock is good already

[untold wigeon]

Keycap and case combo https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

What keycaps are those?

[robust ingot]

What high quality keycaps go with this colorway?

👀

[unreal pendant]

are plate mount stabs compatibles with o ring mount?

[untold wigeon]

cf plate=carbon fibre plate?

[gaunt marten]

gummy o ring or o ring as in burger mount

anyways yes to both

[weary tree]

only screw ins stabs will interfere with the gummy oring mount.

[shell crown]

Yes

[unreal pendant]

I only have to replace backspace and the space bar right?

[weary tree]

i havent tested myself so i dont know. works on the plate mounted stabs on mine and badseed used clip ins and it works. https://youtube.com/shorts/VEZ7O3GX_j8

[unreal pendant]

alright I'll just try then

[median spade]

Yes

[harsh dove]

It is lol I’ll fix it, was tired af , it was almost 3am

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[harsh dove]

Iv works ashes

Also no issues with stab compatibility with the KDBFans Wooting Carbon Fiber Plate and my TX AP Clip Ins

[untold wigeon]

you prefer cf plate or pc plate?

[harsh dove]

I’m kinda liking this cf but I got 3 more plates on the way to try out

[untold wigeon]

can i ask you whats the difference between pc plate and cf plate? im on the lookout for a new plate

[mystic pumice]

Will these GMK keycaps have interference considering the north facing LED on the PCB?

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-norde?variant=44609459814668

[untold wigeon]

im gonna get their WoB kit, earlier today i put my switches south facing since i dont use LEDs

[mystic pumice]

I mean I could also do that but even though the keycaps aren't shine-though, but I am a bit bummed if I have to compromise on the RGB

I like the shine in between the keys

[untold wigeon]

i hate it, i mean if u like it you could use a normal ds pbt set from somewhere

[mystic pumice]

I have been looking for keycaps all week and can barely find any with Nordic layout

[harsh dove]

A lot stiffer, and more clack

[untold wigeon]

damn, what can you recommend for more creamy sounds?

[untold wigeon]

had same issue until i found WoB really

[harsh dove]

PC , POM

[untold wigeon]

i already got PC, whats POM?

[mystic pumice]

What does WoB stand for?

[gleaming crane]

I just spent all day yesterday sanding down my pc plate for my stabs, now I’m thinking of relubing all my jades, cuz why not🥲

[agile grove]

white legends on black keycaps

[quiet bay]

ok this key cap set looks insane with a white case too 🥵

so close to sounding like a real mechanical switch

[shrewd dragon]

Wouldn't it be easier to turn rgb off?

[untold wigeon]

its already off, some keycaps doesnt fit that well with north facing switches

[agile grove]

sounds good (except for the spacebar), I think the plate foam might push the thock a little more but as is it pretty in-between thock and clack

[shrewd dragon]

Ahh gotcha

[agile grove]

do your specific keycaps have an issue with north facing or is it some keycaps that have an issue and you want future compatibility?

[untold wigeon]

i want future compatibility

hence why i put them south facing

[agile grove]

yeah that whole thing just sorta wasnt really true

havent heard of anyone having issues with north facing and keycaps

I think GMK used to have issues but doesnt anymore

[untold wigeon]

meh doesnt matter now

its already done xD

[agile grove]

I mean its probably fine if you arent using RGB anyways, and I guess its somewhat better safe than sorry

[untold wigeon]

i dont, i did like rgb when i was like 14 tho

[median spade]

White on Black

[median spade]

Chad south facing

[median spade]

It’s an issue on Mx stuff still unless you’re using long pole switches or switches with hosing changes

HE stuff is the only ones I’ve heard not have problems with it, but still don’t trust that myself

And if you’re already modifying/pulling switches out and not planning to use RGB might as well put them back in south facing

[untold wigeon]

come again

[untold wigeon]

this is what i did

black screen asmr of my keyboard

any enjoyers?

[agile grove]

pretty bad soundtest

assuming you took it with a phone?

I've found that phones only pick up the chatter of the switch

[untold wigeon]

yes its with my phone

[agile grove]

I used a dualsense controller and I think it came out pretty good, but you have to tweak with things like the material the controller is on and how far away it is

[untold wigeon]

ah i see

[harsh dove]

I actually think I sounds pretty good in person but yeah it is emphasized in the video

[waxen bane]

Guys my keyboard doesn’t sound as good as it used to

Is this recency bias or so I need more lube

[agile grove]

did you hand lube the keyboard?

otherwise the stock lube probably settled and now its drier in certain areas

[waxen bane]

Factory lubed

Is the only option now to hand lube the switches

[proven tendon]

my hand lubed ones feel worse after 2 months too

you cant win

just gotta buy jades

[waxen bane]

I have jades

😭

[proven tendon]

oh damn

you might be cooked then

[agile grove]

you might be imagining it then tbh

jade's have barely been out, I cant imagine you having them long enough for the sound of the switches to change

theoretically the sound of the switches should last years

the lube technically last forever

[agile grove]

this was for lekkers, due to their very thin factory lube job the break in process thins out the lube even more.

[bitter valve]

Hmm is there 900x420 artisan pad that you guys recommend?

[fluid ravine]

Cam
Chill
Youre cooking a bit too hard

[hollow sand]

Is the tofu 60 redux better or the alumaze better?

[agile grove]

neither are better, entirely personal preference

[agile grove]

bro isnt even cooking anymore the food is on fire

[fluid ravine]

LMAOO

[hollow sand]

Like the tofu60 but its never in stock

[fluid ravine]

No wonder it turned into "ashes"

[agile grove]

restocks pretty often

[fluid ravine]

The original tofu60? That got discontinued

[untold wigeon]

bro?

[hollow sand]

ofc i mean the redux

jesus

[untold wigeon]

look dm kebab 1 sec

[fluid ravine]

Mb didn't read chat earlier
Sry chat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[green pebble]

anyone franken jades with raptor top housing for full nylon closed bottom switch yet?

[tawdry tree]

Raptor’s top housing does not fit KS-20 series switches sadly.

[green pebble]

Now that’s tragic. Perhaps one day we will get a nylon housing Pom stem long pole switch with a closed bottom. For now I’ll just enjoy my jades.

They sound the closest to a traditional mechanical switch to me.

[twin marten]

people who are currently using magnetic jades, do you feel the difference in actuation distance? How significant is it because I want my typing/gaming experience to feel shorter than my lekker60's

[tawdry tree]

You definitely notice it when switching from Lekkers to Jades or vise versa but it’s not a big difference to me. If you want a shorter travel than the jades you could try travel shorteners if they’re already available.

[median spade]

You ain’t living life till you do closet spacebar guys

[tawdry tree]

I can’t wait for silent magnetic switches. 🥲

[median spade]

Literally would solve all problems with HE till they get good

Can’t have shit noise when you have no noise

[red flame]

Do you guys lube stabilisers

[quiet bay]

Yes

[fallen crag]

Rubber dampers would work wonders on these switches

[gleaming crane]

Just got my tx ap screw ins and my module🥳

[fallen crag]

The most noise from them comes due to hitting the end positions (plastic hits plastic).
Tried to fix that with some extra lube.

D is stock lube

Also -> PC plate, with silicone damper and the rubber damper on the stand offs inside the Alumaze. And those are L60s

[median spade]

Yeee on the jades I lubed top hosing and this is as good as it’s going to get for the moment

They don’t sound anything close to Mx, but at least they sound like generic lubed switch now

[fallen crag]

I lubed stems, springs (in and out) and the sliders plenty

[untold wigeon]

u prefer the silicone over the poron?

[median spade]

Top housing is really what gets rid of that “HE rattle” or just upstroke noise

As I had lubed all the other places and still sound was there

[median spade]

I also prefer the silicone

If I use a dampener which I don’t

[fallen crag]

Yeah

[untold wigeon]

interesting, does it sound more or less with the silicone?

[fallen crag]

Sounds less for me

[untold wigeon]

oh wow, is rubber dampeners something that comes with the case/module or is that a add on you have to buy urslef?

[fallen crag]

I bough the 60HE, so i had to buy the Plate kit, where they are included

[untold wigeon]

do you have a picture of what they look like?

[agile grove]

comes with both the alumaze and module

[untold wigeon]

yea i was about to say

has to be them

thanks i will try silicone instead of poron tomorrow👍

[fallen crag]

Why tf a video.. .-.

[untold wigeon]

xD

[agile grove]

iirc module comes with poron and alumaze comes with silicone

[fallen crag]

Im too tired

[untold wigeon]

module comes with silicone pre installed i think

i chsnge it to poron

[fallen crag]

My alumaze had none, only in the plate kit.. Or im stupid and didnt unpack all of it

[granite blaze]

deepest HE switch for best thock ?

[fallen crag]

Nah, im not;
1x Alumaze60
1x L shape part of Alumaze60
1x "Wooting" Strap
1x Silicone attachment to attach strap
2x Binding post M2.5x2 set for silicone attachment
6x Screw M2x6
1x 4° Silicone feet
1x 7.5° Silicone feet
1x EPDM foam sound dampening pad
1x Silicone stand-off protections rings

[untold wigeon]

are ks 20 nice

or raptor?

[tawdry tree]

Do you got your sandpaper ready too? 🤣

[tawdry tree]

Raptors > Stock KS-20s/Lekkers IMO

[untold wigeon]

are the ks20's the jades?

[fallen crag]

#🪛│modding_faq

There you will find all the switches

[gleaming crane]

Already sanded down my pc plate yesterday, spent all day doing so cuz I used a higher grit😭

[tawdry tree]

No, KS-20s are Lekkers and Lekkers are KS-20s.

[tawdry tree]

Oh god 😂

How long did it take you?

[gleaming crane]

A couple hours🥲

[tawdry tree]

😬

[gaunt marten]

Im glad mine fit without sanding

[agile grove]

no, jades are KS-20T

[potent wedge]

Alumaze60 - aluminium case
. With case foam
PC Switch Plate Kit
. Poron foam insert
Burger mount
. ORING mount
Lubbed L60 switch
. With Foam switch Poron
FL-CMMK mount stab
. Modstab, Holee mod
3 layers of tape mod
. GMK Sumi keycaps
Wooting Detachable USB-C Coiled/Straight Cable Set

Fr4 plate sound good for wooting?

[agile grove]

CF is better if you're going for clack

PC is better for thock

[meager elbow]

Anyone know of any compatibility issues with the Gateron Jades and the 60 non+

[quiet bay]

#1173784544529363034 message this will help reduce the noise by a ton 🙂

very time consuming though

[median spade]

Never FR4

FR4 sucks (it’s all preference tbh)

[meager elbow]

Nvm found what i needed in The Mod FAQ

[untold wigeon]

where did u put these😭

[halcyon sparrow]

do modules have a subtle bend from factory? {if i press the far left end the right one will raise if its just the pcb]

[agile grove]

might be your desk, mine did the same but its fine in the case

[steep parrot]

when doiong the burger mount mod. is it every screw that gooes from the pcb into the case?

[quiet bay]

Just screwing in the sides is fine

[steep parrot]

ty!

[bleak steeple]

yall know of a wrist rest that’s an even length with the alumaze case? i don’t like that the wootings rest is shorter than the alumaze case, it bugs me a bit

[paper bloom]

I mean if you want run a 60% Wrist and i find it is better without it since I am running Tofu Redux Case

[bleak steeple]

yeah but i also think most 60% rests would be also short, it’s an ‘issue’ specifically to the alumaze case design with the thing on the left sadly

also how does ur keeb sound now in the tofu case? what did it sound like before in the alumaze case?

[paper bloom]

Its thoc with the poron foam while Silicone runs a bit of a clack

[gaunt marten]

Nope, U just gotta use the beta firmware #🪛│modding_faq message

[fallen crag]

Where the stand offs touch the PCB

[fallen crag]

@bleak steeple Here you got the sound.
-Alumaze
-PC plate
-silicon pad
-silicon rings on the stand offs
-Foam on the bottom
-The two bottom rows are hand lubed, the 3rd row is stock lubed L60s

[steep parrot]

If you burger mod the side screws, do you still need to screw in the other ones in the middle, bottom. Etc normally? Or did you mean I just need the side screws and that’s it

[dense token]

a clear acrylic case would be so nice

[bitter valve]

I would do two on the sides and one by the spacebar

Spacebar needs standoff

[halcyon sparrow]

check out kbd fans acrlic case

[untold wigeon]

bro

thoughts?

[untold wigeon]

lowkey big brain

[untold wigeon]

is this site relieable?

why are they so cheap

[harsh dove]

2am Keyboard sounds…

[untold wigeon]

sounds good

whats the mods

[glacial wind]

yeah divinikey is legit

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-reading-long-list-gif-16305845

[untold wigeon]

raptor are only 40$?

[glacial wind]

yeah

raptors are cheap

[untold wigeon]

waow

they are good stock?

[glacial wind]

it was even cheaper in korea. I think I paid like $30-35 for mine

[untold wigeon]

like no mods needed to them

[harsh dove]

Tofu x Jades x CF Plate x Friction Mount x Lots of Foam lol

[glacial wind]

they're fine although most people hand lube them still and some do the stem swap if they don't mind the extra friction/heavier feel

[hushed igloo]

Just double checking, this next batch of keyboards if you placed an order rn are 60HE+ for NA?

[glacial wind]

jades are also on sale for similar price btw https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006548232156.html

[untold wigeon]

l45 light af for me xd, hence why i was looking for these, people stay they better

[glacial wind]

so you can pick what you prefer

[untold wigeon]

yeah but jades can mess with stabs?

[glacial wind]

yes and no, if you run into stab issue with them it's an easy fix

so i wouldn't really pick just based on that

[untold wigeon]

whats the fix?

[glacial wind]

add o ring or swap stab

[untold wigeon]

sounded diff from what u sent yesterday

[glacial wind]

most people don't have the stab issue to begin with though because it's caused by certain keycaps being loose

[harsh dove]

Was no foam in yesterdays

[untold wigeon]

ah which foam did u use?

[harsh dove]

Just normal wooting plate foam

[untold wigeon]

yeah check this https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/18we2rt/wooting_60he_jade_switches_issues_with_stabilizers/

[glacial wind]

yeah I know, it's nothing new to jades - this is just what happens with long pole switches

[untold wigeon]

so not the one that came with tofu case?

[harsh dove]

It is

[glacial wind]

but like I said 9/10 people don't have this issue happen with long pole switches

infact I have another keyboard with 3.5mm travel switches using normal stabs right now without the issue

[harsh dove]

I’m using tofu case foam and I’m using the plate foam as well , yesterdays video didn’t have any plate foam, but still had case foam

[grim steppe]

Stock stabilizers?

[harsh dove]

Tx ap clip ins

[untold wigeon]

interesting, idk which ones to choose now

just want no headache

[glacial wind]

what happens is people new to keyboards see these types of threads and think it's some major flaw or something that will happen to them, but reality is most folks won't even have this happen with long pole (short travel) switches

in fact wuque morandi are one of the most popular switches in the scene and heavily used on non long pole stabs and only a few people run into this issue

zoom/meletrix heavily promote and use wuque morandi switches in their boards with normal stabs and only a very small percentage of users run into the long pole wobble thing

[untold wigeon]

by plate foam u mean poron pad or do you mean you took the case foam that came with the module and put it on top of the tofu case foam?

[harsh dove]

The foam that goes in between the plate and the PCB

[untold wigeon]

so the poron pad then

[harsh dove]

Sure

[untold wigeon]

idk what to choose now xd

[untold wigeon]

what do u mean sure? xD isnt it called that?

[harsh dove]

lol I always called it plate foam

[grim steppe]

Long pole?

[glacial wind]

the jades have less wobble if that bothers you (although you can stem swap raptors - but not everyone likes the stem swap)

[harsh dove]

No sir

[untold wigeon]

im not going to do anything to them, i want the best out of the box

[glacial wind]

personally i'd go jades if I had to pick right now

[untold wigeon]

isnt there a channel that had some info about switches on the wooting here?

[glacial wind]

you mean this channel/faq channel?

[grim steppe]

I thought long pole tx is better for jades. But your space sounds cool

[harsh dove]

Quality keycaps are better for jades

lol

If you read Sno and Strafes conversation, you don’t need Long Pole

Thank you tho, I stuffed it with putty

[untold wigeon]

found it, also is the beta for this released?

my bad

it is

[grim steppe]

So I should return tx ap long pole and get normal one while I am waiting for keyboard?

[glacial wind]

? why would you return them if you already have them and are using jades

[harsh dove]

Yeah might as well keep them

No issue

[grim steppe]

Ah, ok. I misunderstood that long pole are not good for jades

[harsh dove]

They are fine but not required is what we’re trying to say

If you already have them, keep them if you’re using jades

[untold wigeon]

jades more clackier than lekkers?

[harsh dove]

Mmh yeah I’d say so

[untold wigeon]

hmm

damn

[glacial wind]

not more chattery if that's what you're thinking

[harsh dove]

Right

[glacial wind]

clack is a different thing to chatter sound

[untold wigeon]

no clackier

[harsh dove]

Out of the 4 I have, Lekkers and KS20u are the deeper of the 4, compared to Jades and Raptors

But Lekkers and Raptors have the most chatter imo

KS20u and jades have a cleaner sound

But they all sound like HE at the end of the day lol

Jades being the best for sound imo

[untold wigeon]

ks20u was what i was looking for

[harsh dove]

Those are solid

Esp if you want no wobble

My batch felt overlubed slightly but otherwise pretty good

[untold wigeon]

just to be sure its these right?

[harsh dove]

No

[untold wigeon]

oh

[harsh dove]

White housing, orange stem

[untold wigeon]

yeah i have to wait for a eu company to get them

not paying 25$ shipping

[harsh dove]

I feel that, I’m sure somebody has them in EU

[grim steppe]

Why there are no ks-20u in Gateron store🫠

[untold wigeon]

how come gateron doesnt have them on their site

lol xD

[glacial wind]

they're very new to public release

[grim steppe]

As I know they are as new as jades

[glacial wind]

they're newer

[grim steppe]

Ah, ok

[glacial wind]

they were basically announced same time as jades was released but didn't release until recently

[grim steppe]

https://www.keychron.com/products/gateron-double-rail-magnetic-switch?variant=40784600662105
Looks like ks20-u🤔

[glacial wind]

that's ks37b iirc

just recolored keychron

[untold wigeon]

only mechkeys has the ks-20u?

[glacial wind]

and taobao too but that's complicated and harder to order from

[untold wigeon]

what does this say? xd

[untold wigeon]

whats the diff between ks-20 and ks-20u

[glacial wind]

ks20 is very old, it's gaterons version of lekkers

[lavish flax]

uhh

[untold wigeon]

guess ill just have to wait then

wonder when they will be released

[halcyon sparrow]

Any benefit of these over ks20-u's

[glacial wind]

Those aren’t compatible with wooting

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh

[untold wigeon]

@harsh dove sry for @ but what are those keycaps?

where can i get these

[formal comet]

looks like gmk olivia

oblotzky has two versions of it, pbt and gmk

[untold wigeon]

sheeesh

160

whats the diff with apl and standard kit?

ah nvm

[median spade]

First step is to remove kaspersky from your system

[waxen bane]

One of the few decent antimalwares

[wind karma]

i use no antiMALWARE

and click on sketchy links

i’m no fear

like that

[gaunt marten]

anyone else here using tx ap clip ins on the 60he +module, do u guys use the stab stopper? for spacebar and backspace its kinda loose

[proven tendon]

I used it

[gaunt marten]

[median spade]

All you need is common sense and windows defender

[lavish flax]

well I've been running kaspersky and it was just now that it got flagged

[soft pawn]

can i just check the tx ap screw in stabs fitting the wooting module - buy and hope they fit don't want to sand anything down....

[untold wigeon]

are there any aftermarket stabs thats good that fit the module ootb?

[empty sinew]

as I told you 🙂 just lube the stock ones and they are very good

after spending some tab lubing\greasing mine it made them really nice sounding

[steep parrot]

Sorry I am new to keyboards building. What do you mean by standoff?

[bitter valve]

The brass hexagon screw, should’ve come with the case, I believe

Without it, the screw won’t reach the bottom