🌟│wooting80he

[pastel hare]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-nnooo-no-nope-never-gif-16214908

[winged birch]

Depends if you like the fullsize or not.

[pastel hare]

Might grab a two he rn then

[pastel hare]

I need arrow keys 😪

[winged birch]

Yeah and if you decide later you want the 80HE instead you can always sell it.

Resell value of all Woot’s HE boards is pretty good.

[distant iris]

looking to get my first HE keyboard but not sure if I want the 80He, cause its layout doesnt allow that much customization + 8k polling takes a toll on your cpu?

But if I’m getting the 60he, its not the “fastest” keyboard anymore so whats the point

[midnight iron]

8k polling doesn’t impact cpu nearly as much as mice

Keyboards typically don’t run into the same issues as mice do since they’re not doing high dpi plus cursor updates constantly

That said I wouldn’t care about the 60he being 1ms slower than the 80he if you prefer the 60% format

[distant iris]

the 80he would only be 1ms faster?

[midnight iron]

Yeah, that’s the difference in 8k vs 1k

[lapis galleon]

less than that actually, .9ms

[lament saffron]

Literally broken. I can't go pro if I'm 1ms slower.

[midnight iron]

that said you should still buy the wooting 80he zinc alloy to support the church of the white/retro cream/light mocha 80he zinc alloy

[distant iris]

idk about that, i would like to have the freedom to use any aftermarket case that I want. unless the 80he becomes a standard layout like the tkl

[distant iris]

lol so real

[midnight iron]

unfortunately even tkl doesn't give you the ability to use any aftermarket case due to mounting differences - 60% is the only one that does that

[glad fable]

There is no aftermarket case

[midnight iron]

if aftermarket cases is important to you then 60% would be the only real option

[glad fable]

Either go for wooting's zinc alloy case or make your own

[distant iris]

would the 60he ever be updated for a 8k polling rate model

[bitter vector]

Unknown

It would require wooting to change the mcu

[toxic zephyr]

lol "what would be the point if it's not the fastest"

how about the fact that you like it more, clearly

every other keyboard company should actually just quit, no reason to exist if they are anything but the fastest

[viscid owl]

16KHz keyboards when?

[buoyant solstice]

#🐸│memes

[vernal sage]

So this is assumed that the 80he has the same processing time?

[tight cypress]

60he - ~1ms
80he - ~0.125ms

[buoyant solstice]

if 8khz mode is enabled and supported by your game

[toxic zephyr]

if you're only looking at the time it takes for the keyboard to pick up the input and the USB to poll it

[buoyant solstice]

[tight cypress]

For one I can tell Deck will most likely have problems with 8k mode
Yesterday it wanted to die on me with 8k polling on mouse

[buoyant solstice]

[wind tiger]

yea uhhh, linux is not so keen on it

keyboards send a whole lot less packages, so it might be fine

I'd really love to see what MCU wooting is running for 8k scanning tho

[tight cypress]

I dunno, I had no issues whatsoever on my PC nor Thinkpad with 8k polling

[wind tiger]

hmm

what distro are you running?

[tight cypress]

Arch everywhere

[jolly tangle]

nerd

[ancient breach]

I agree, nerd

• Also runs Arch everywhere

[humble cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/i-use-arch-btw-use-arch-linux-fedora-gif-23272370

[ancient breach]

That gif is for fedora users

[humble cargo]

arch is the new fedora

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-kono-subarashii-sad-teary-eye-gif-13601442

[wispy finch]

Woothing 80 will release this year?

[tight cypress]

[dreamy sedge]

my new bank card with debit function is ready rip 8$

[rough stream]

same bro

[dreamy sedge]

are you from germany xD?

[rough stream]

ye why

bro has Ip tracker or smth now cmon

[dreamy sedge]

cuz im too 😄 got a new SPARKASSEN KARTE for that

[wind tiger]

wdym rip 8$

[dreamy sedge]

had to pay for a new one that has a debit function. Credit card function without being a credit card. Mid 2023 they got updated at our local bank and you only get a free new one when they expire

[wind tiger]

amazing

[buoyant solstice]

Took your bank that long to adapt? Wow

I've had a debit card since... god... I was a teenager. When did WoW release?

Mid 2000s

[wind tiger]

the default in germany still is not a debit card

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah I did hear that Germany is very stubbornly neanderthal in that regard.

Going to Gamescon is a major pain for civilized folk.

[toxic zephyr]

isn't germany neanderthal in many things

[wind tiger]

the neanderthal is in germany

[dreamy sedge]

in germany we say the internet ist neuland xD

here you pay 8€ for 6gig mobile net

[tight cypress]

€7/mo

[dreamy sedge]

oh damn greece is even worse xD

[amber merlin]

And im paying 24€ for unlimited mobile data 💀

[wind tiger]

guh, I pay 8€ for 20gb

in germany

[upbeat berry]

thats prob a graph from 2020

lol

[wind tiger]

O2 is BEGGING me to change my contract, but they are straight up just worse than what I got

[wind tiger]

spot on

[dreamy sedge]

well in germany thats still accurate i bet xD

[upbeat berry]

nope

i paid like 30eur for 60gb

you will notice thats not 3.60 per gb

[wind tiger]

what, for 30€ you already get unlimited

[upbeat berry]

maybe nowadays but i only had the choice of 1&1 basically as the only semi functional provider in my village and also didnt wanna make a new 2year contract

[dreamy sedge]

i mean the ratio

[wind tiger]

tbh 10gb is already much more than I would need

[dreamy sedge]

compared to other countries

[upbeat berry]

i now have a german sim for 4eur a month with unlimited calls and no data. and a dutch sim with unlimited everything for 27eur

[wind tiger]

with o2

paying for telekom is totally worth it

[upbeat berry]

now im interested what provider does 30eur unlimited in germany

[dreamy sedge]

telekom was 80€ i think

well with a phone

[upbeat berry]

thats a lot more than 80

ah 85 standalone

[wind tiger]

freenet

1€ a day

[ancient breach]

I often translate costs to yearly as that gives me a clearer picture

[toxic zephyr]

I have 9€/6gigs but generally 30€/mo gets you unlimited everything here

[vapid storm]

mm always feels weird to see something being cheaper here than abroad

[toxic zephyr]

yeah just a shame they killed 4g so they could jack prices up another tenner

used to be 20€ for unlimited everything 4g, now it's 30€ unlimited everything 5g

all the while 5g is useless as shit

[buoyant solstice]

Realistically most of that data use will be on 4G anyway due to reach

[ancient breach]

5G has improvements for other parts of the requency range too, not that they are actually used.

[toxic zephyr]

yep

[ancient breach]

My phone doesn't do 5G and I am perfectly fine with that.
Actually my plan is 4g only.

[toxic zephyr]

they don't sell 4g plans here anymore, not the way they used to

it's like either 1mbit/s 4g or unlimited 5g

basically that predatory pricing model where everything but the most expensive option seems shit

[ancient breach]

virtual providers do, and I only have a 6GB a month plan of which I have not used more than half in a month in the last 6 months

pay € 7,50 per month.

[toxic zephyr]

yeah I'm lucky to have a grandfathered price for that 6gig limited plan

will never let that go lol, just perfect

[ancient breach]

New plans are a bit more expensive now but not too much.

Oh yea it changed to 7,93 due to inflation correction

[quasi crater]

Anyone know the price of 80he? 😂😂

[toxic zephyr]

omnipotent Q&A

"Recommend me keycaps" -- https://alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
"Is 60HE gonna get 8KHz" -- no #1207737990533750814 message
"What's the 80HE gonna cost" -- "generally similar to how our current boards are priced" #🌟│wooting80he message
"When's the 80HE coming out" -- Q2-Q3 this year
"When can I preorder the 80HE" -- Soon™️, no official word yet
"What's the difference between 60HE and 60HE+" -- 60HE+ supports screw-in stabilizers, otherwise the same

[rose crane]

My provider offers 5g unlimited but 10mbit/s max speed for 25 euros per months and 5g but 300 mbit/s max speed for 32.50 euros etc etc etc

[old jackal]

Would a USB 3.0 port or a Hi-Speed 2.0 port be the best to use for the "true 8k polling" feature? Since USB 2.0 has a 0.125ms polling rate like shown in their latest video I'm assuming that's what the keyboard is designed for, but at the same time the theoretical speed limit of USB 3.0 is higher. Since 3.0 isn't really polling-based though I'm not sure how consistent those speeds can be kept? If 3.0's latency ever rises above 0.125ms then USB 2.0 is the better choice imo, anyone know if this could happen with USB 3.0 or if it consistently holds speeds higher than USB 2.0?

[ancient breach]

yea nice way to increase prices

just lower speed of the existing plan and make a faster one more expensive.

[rose crane]

True

So weird

[toxic zephyr]

yeah and in general just make a throwaway plan and price it like shit so people will go for the pricier one

[ancient breach]

Different situation here, instead of increasing pricing they just lowered the speed a lot and introduced a new one.

[toxic zephyr]

you're not expecting anyone to go for it, its only function is draw attention to the fact that the pricier one is "better value"

[rose crane]

47.50 euros for 5g unlimited and 1gbit/s speed max and in EU and turkey 50gb max

But the 5g 10mbit/s is scam

[tight cypress]

Don't worry, 3.0 can quite reliably emulate polling up to 20kHz, and 8kHz polling emulation is already really robust, even under high load
Given adequate length of cable of course, so less than 2 meters

TL;DR - use any port you'd like

[old jackal]

@tight cypress cool, thanks!

[buoyant solstice]

I don't even remember what my mobile plan is in terms of GB. Cause... I'm always on Wifi, and I don't use video anyway on my phone.

The only time I ever had a concern about data, was last year at WootUp. And I simply bought a one month "on vacay" upgrade.

[rose crane]

Where was wootup located

[buoyant solstice]

Arnhem

[rose crane]

Huuh when

[buoyant solstice]

Was last ... April I think?

No announcements for this year yet.

[rose crane]

Is there gonna be a new wootup

Damm okey

[odd briar]

I pay 90 a month for my phone and unlimited data, also with Telekom Deutschland, just gotta use those Discounts

Telekom is overpriced if you don't use all the discounts they have on offer

[wind tiger]

idk

[toxic zephyr]

90 a month jesus

[wind tiger]

I like, use my phone

[odd briar]

Flagship device and unlimited 5g

[toxic zephyr]

insane

[wind tiger]

at least one of those was a mistake

[odd briar]

I've done the math, after 2 years I'll have paid roughy 250€ more then if I bought my phone outright, but that doesn't include data at all

[wind tiger]

now include inflation

[odd briar]

😂

No, I don't need another reason to drink

Azubi gehalt is not Gucci af

[wind tiger]

bruh, why do you own a flagship then

[odd briar]

We're in a discord for fancy keyboards, do you really think I'm good with money?

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-got-you-there-john-dutton-sr-1923-he-won-the-argument-his-points-were-valid-gif-27374729

[odd briar]

Not gonna own a house in this economy so I might as well enjoy life a little

[polar storm]

it gets pretty cheap if youre getting 3-5 partner cards. 2nd card is 20€, 3rd - 5th is 10€ / month

[rose crane]

s23 with 258gb unlimited 5g for 49 euros

what phone you got that it is 90

[bitter dagger]

Will switches and keycaps be the same as 60he or there will be some upgrade?

[tight cypress]

Keycaps are still great
But Lekkers v2 are coming

[old jackal]

where can i read about these lekkers v2 switches?

[midnight iron]

There’s nothing official out yet for it. We just know about it based on leaks from wooting talking about it on livestreams mostly

[old jackal]

got it 👍

absolutely can't wait for this keyboard to come out... im checking their website and yt daily for updates

[toxic zephyr]

unnecessary as i'm sure it'll be in #📣│announcements

[safe meadow]

@old jackal so far i think the only improvement mentioned for lekkers v2 is less wobble if memory serves

[odd briar]

Iphone 15 pro Max, tho my roommate is on the exact same contract with a s24 ultra.

[sleek pelican]

wait does s24 mean 2024

big brain time

[toxic zephyr]

big for a mouse maybe

😒

[shut marlin]

hi any news for w80?

[buoyant solstice]

Watch our weekly videos for news and more info.

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[sterile walrus]

Is that the final revision?

[shut marlin]

i mean about the release date

[buoyant solstice]

My answer doesn't change. 🙂

[shut marlin]

okey thx

[thorn charm]

Should I buy the 60he or wait for the 80 is there Are there big differences between the two ? Or is it just the size

[drifting phoenix]

Go to the link directly above this

[lapis galleon]

which size do you prefer?

[thorn charm]

idm both good

but the settings and stuff should be the same no?

[thorn charm]

looks like the same no just other size

[lapis galleon]

80he is technically faster with 8k polling compared to the 60he's 1k polling, however realistically this difference doesnt matter and isnt noticeable (unless you're a super human)

[verbal solar]

is the wooting he 60 better?

[toxic zephyr]

some stuff 80HE has but the 60HE doesn't:

• add-on knob
• 8khz polling + scanning
• gasket mounting (arguably nicer sound)
  some stuff 60HE has but the 80HE doesn't:
• dozens of custom cases readily available

[lapis galleon]

technically its worse

[verbal solar]

so the 80 he is better?

[lapis galleon]

realistically they're the same

[lapis galleon]

kinda?

[toxic zephyr]

for your purposes yes 80he is better

[lapis galleon]

get whatever size you want, the difference is negligible

[verbal solar]

so what should I buy?

[glass junco]

wheel volume is comeing????

[toxic zephyr]

whatever you want bro, you're your own human

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/iyanla-not-on-my-watch-gif-4691452

[toxic zephyr]

a knob is coming, yes

[verbal solar]

what will the keyboard cost?

[toxic zephyr]

omnipotent Q&A

Generic
"Recommend me keycaps" -- https://alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

60HE
"Is 60HE/+ gonna get 8KHz" -- no #1207737990533750814 message
"What's the difference between 60HE and 60HE+" -- 60HE+ supports screw-in stabilizers, otherwise the same
"How can I press this or that on the 60HE/+" -- check the quickstart or bind it yourself https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-quickstart#shortcut

80HE
"What's the 80HE gonna cost" -- "generally similar to how our current boards are priced" #🌟│wooting80he message
"When's the 80HE coming out" -- Q2-Q3 this year
"When can I preorder the 80HE" -- Soon™️, no official word yet

[lapis galleon]

like I said, whichever size you want. the 80he comes out in a few months compared to the 60he already being out. now if you're really asking me, I'd say all of them, not only the 60he and the 80he, but the twohe aswell.

[verbal solar]

And which one is better for the gaming?

[glass junco]

if you use the F buttons and ARROW. the 80he

[toxic zephyr]

all the same

[lapis galleon]

the same

[verbal solar]

So no keyboard is a little bit faster

[toxic zephyr]

the 80HE is a little bit faster as explained previously...

[lapis galleon]

the 80he is a bit faster, but a negligible amount that isnt noticable

[glass junco]

virtually is faster, 80he

[verbal solar]

OK, thank you Cuz

Guys

[glass junco]

less imput lag always better

[verbal solar]

Do you think it will cost $200

[lapis galleon]

its going to be similarly priced, so $200-250

[verbal solar]

kk

[glass junco]

aprox date to buy???

[lapis galleon]

I guess? its a difference of .9ms so its not noticeable at all. on top of that, you arent gonna be sending inputs fast enough to use the increased scanning and polling. pretty much just marketing and pushing the tech.

[buoyant solstice]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[lapis galleon]

soon™️

[toxic zephyr]

I go through the trouble and still they laugh in my face

[lapis galleon]

it should be noted that it'll be a long founders campaign (so pretty much a pre-order with goodies), the keyboard doesnt release until late Q2 - early Q3

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-pat-pat-on-head-cute-affection-gif-8864024291896689148

[verbal solar]

And what is the first mouse?

fastest

[midnight iron]

the one that fits your grip

[lapis galleon]

mice are a much more difficult question as it all depends on shape and weight preference. as to not get off topic, I'd recommend you move this conversation to #🔌│tech or #💬│general.

[sage reef]

buy 60HE for gaming, and another exploded 75 tactile for other stuff.

while waiting for HE tactile switches

honestly HE Tactile should be big priority

[lapis galleon]

HE tactile seems pretty counterintuitive

it would sorta ruin a lot of analog features

[tight cypress]

Not really, I've used tactile HEs in my UwU, feels pretty nice

[sage reef]

depends a bit on how you do it, but still can play like almost all games with HE Tactile

but this here would be like perfect, swapping to linear when you really need it https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1203058756657619004

[winged birch]

Tactile is linear before and after the bump. A tactile HE switch is not counterintuitive and should’ve been a thing a long time ago but Gateron is beyond slow.

Tactile would also be quite useful for DKS which most don’t use. 😒

[glass junco]

LAMZU atlantis is top

[sterile walrus]

This!

[drifting phoenix]

Bro lmao you are insane

With the super complex detachable concept

[sage reef]

how is it complex, just 3 parts, right part for most would be Tactile, and just swap left part if you need linear gaming.
just so you don't have to buy 2 keyboards, like 60HE for gaming and another tactile for other stuff, takes more space and more expensive. and don't have to plug and unplug cable when switching, or swap switches.

just need to figure out a good way to connect them together, so they stick well together and easy to detach and attach. non-HE kbs would just use mostly pretty strong magnets, but not option here.

[sage reef]

can also have a second cable port on the left side, but only for that left side, so you can play games just with left side with a lot of mouse space. This port can also be the only port, then for both sides, so it's like cheaper to make and stuff, but then have to unplug/plug when swapping parts.

[bitter dagger]

Will 80he have same swithces and keycaps as 60he ?

[drifting phoenix]

Sounds insanely complicated and how will you maintain low latency with a split pcb

And how will they attach in a way that is solid feeling like a single chassis kb

And also just LOL

[pseudo parrot]

It would increase cost and production complexity too much for it to be feasible I believe

[lapis galleon]

yes

[vernal quest]

no

[slate bloom]

Is the release pushed to March?

[old jackal]

im hearing now that there will be a knob. is this mandatory or an add-on? i find it kinda silly when the keyboard has analogue input anyway, just make it so fn + arrow keys change volume proportionally to how hard you press

ofc knob would make sense if u use non-linear switches. not trying to be rude to those who want it, i just dont like the knob

[lapis galleon]

it’s gonna be an add-on

[old jackal]

good 👍

[sage reef]

Doing good engineering is the fun part and a challenge. Of course it's not gonna be completely solid, it has to be able to bend with breaking aso.
But what you get is a great tactile keyboard for all kind of use and easily accessible linear usage + just using the left part standalone for gaming where you just need good mouse space, and just in general nice to have this comfort when gaming certain games. If really needed could also have both parts connected w 2 cables, w right part above the left (so you still have good mouse space), so you can use right part keys if really needed, like typing in chat sometimes, or some extra key.
If w 2 cables, you can also place these 2 parts a bit apart and in a more ergonomic for you way. You get a lot of options and convenience, buying this ~1.4 kb, and it all being uniform, instead of buying 2 different ones, with less options, and also more expensive.

[drifting phoenix]

Okay so engineer it and crowdfund it

[odd briar]

sounds like a really awkward and overly complicated way to swap switches in a slightly more convinient manner

[sage reef]

what if you do different activities all within a day, then you would have to swap switches like 2 times every day, that's really annoying. even if not every single day, still annoying (even if like 6 keys or something).
also wearing down switches and keycaps.

[slow compass]

There’s 4 options I see working out. Get used to linear, get 2 keyboards. Wait for haptic feedback PCBs or Wait for electro magnetic switches/pcb for variable resistance mimicking traditional tactile bumps. Hereby I patent the two latest ideas.

I’d like to add to my haptic feedback idea. You probably need to add the haptic engines in the keycaps, not pcb. Edit: actually the stem of the switch might also work.

[sage reef]

it's also good to launch such a product with new TactileHE switches, as the first product that has them, and can't really get them separately for a while, so people must buy that keyboard, get used to it, popularize it this way.
but not really, because this means longer wait time for TactileHE, better to just release them separately, idc about linear, gaming works with Tactile too, no swapping needed for me really.

[winged birch]

Same keycaps, yes. Same switches, no. The 80HE will come with new “Lekker V2” switches.

[winged birch]

Late summer actually. Q2 2024 for the pre-order/campaign and it’ll be shipped Q2/Q3 I believe.

[winged birch]

Just a more easily detachable switch plate would do. One switch plate with switches (and keycaps) for gaming and the other for typing would be the best case scenario.

Switch stem? Yes.

Either Cherry or OEM but I believe Cherry.

Take Control were OEM iirc

[tight cypress]

Default are OEM, TC are Cherry

[winged birch]

Oh, exactly vise versa. 🤣

What exactly do you mean with cherry profile?

Keycaps are compatible as long as they’re compatible with Cherry MX but that’s not their profile.

[tight cypress]

Yeah, OEM, Cherry, SA, HSA... As long as they're not low profile they'll most likely work

I mean... low profile will work too, but will look funny

Pretty sure it'll be as with any other keyboard, ANSI comes with PBT, for ISO you can pick ABS or PBT

[nova nexus]

Size comparison 🙂

[jovial ferry]

I thought it will be much bigger then this

[winged birch]

2.25u wider on the side and 1.5u on the top I believe.

[jovial ferry]

Mark I have a question to you. How did you manage to make a chatgpt summarize the livestream? I tried using the same prompt you did for one of the livestreams, however it responds to me that the livestream is protected by copyright and it wont summarize it for me.

[nova nexus]

I used the plugin Video Summary

Takes at least a few hours before that service parses the live stream though, that's not ChatGPT doing it itself

ChatGPT just takes the raw transcript text provided by the plugin, then works its magic on that

[jovial ferry]

Oh yeah I see the plugin now. Thanks 🙂

[bitter dagger]

I want also mkeycaps better

[verbal solar]

do we have an idea when its going to be released

towards the end of the year or earlier than that

[tight cliff]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[wet parrot]

Must be lower than wooting two he, how TKL size have a higher price than fullsize ? Maybe zinc alloy opt will get higher price but abs should be lower than 195$

[jovial ferry]

Remember that 80HE has alot of improvements and new features that olded boards dont have

[jovial ferry]

preorder most likely 2024 Q2 and shippment Q2/Q3

[verbal solar]

hope there will be a white version

[midnight iron]

welcome yagami to our church. May you prosper and spread the good word

[lapis galleon]

the new MCU alone is gonna cost more, add that to a more premium board with general improvements, yeah its gonna be more expensive

[verbal solar]

do we know around what price it will cost

im assuming more than the 60he

[lapis galleon]

similar to their current boards, most are assuming $200-250

I want to say no due to the anodizing or MAO (concrete grey) process the alumaze goes through

it may have a different texture entirely

expect it to just feel like metal however

[midnight iron]

yes

[lapis galleon]

yep

theres a ton of information in the weekly videos and in the pins to search through

[dense ridge]

guys is GATERON Magnetic Jade Switch working good on wooting keyboards?

[lapis galleon]

I think you're in the wrong channel, you might wanna try #🔧│keyboard_modding

[wet tangle]

yes

[dense ridge]

and can i see anywhere the sound test of new 80he switches lekker v2? or they are still not released?

[lapis galleon]

I think they were teased in one of the streams, but im not sure. havent been released officially yet.

[dense ridge]

it should sound at least like GATERON Magnetic Jade Switch right =)? what do u think?

[lapis galleon]

also they are completely unrelated to the 80he, as every keyboard out now will use them aswell.

[lapis galleon]

they will not. expect them to sound closer to KS-20us since they probably wont have a closed bottom like the jades.

[dense ridge]

why u think that it will be closer to ks-20us? just saw the sound test... Jade is much better 😦

[lapis galleon]

like I said, the lekker 2.0 switches probably wont have a closed bottom.

jade have a closed bottom which is what gives them that sound

[dense ridge]

so why they dont want to make lekker2 with closed bottom as well ?

are there any downsides?

[lapis galleon]

if you end up not liking the sound of the 80he's switches you could either lube the switches or just replace them with a better sounding switch

[nova nexus]

The design of upcoming switch changes hasn't been spoken about, so this is all conjecture 🙂

[dense ridge]

so is there a chance that it will sound like GATERON Magnetic Jade Switch 🙂 ?

[lapis galleon]

yep, why im saying probably as the design isnt released yet. however I probably couldve made it more clear this is simply speculation.

[lapis galleon]

as said above this is all speculation, but things like stabilizers and shorter travel distance may be taken into consideration

[lapis galleon]

theres a chance yes

but honestly by the time the 80he releases I wouldnt be surprised if a better sounding switch is released

[dense ridge]

@lapis galleoni see bro, its really good that u can change the switches with other ones on wooting keyboard 🙂 btw what magnetic swith is the best for you now?

[lapis galleon]

im currently using lekkers, and probably will for a while until a really good switch comes out, but I think the general consensus is that currently jades sound the best.

[frosty sage]

@everyone Size comparison placed side by side to visually highlight the differences in dimensions between 60HE/HE+ and 80HE. This will assist you in making an informed decision about your purchase, allowing you to better visualize and choose the size that suits your preferences. If you're leaning towards a larger option, such as the 80HE, this comparison will affirm your choice and provide a clear understanding of the size you can expect.
https://www.youtube.com/live/EQzqN-fkO9E?si=rEEmrYqNz2E2F3nA&t=3812

[steady escarp]

hey is there a summary of today's livestream somewhere?

@nova nexus I see you mention it but I don't see the post could you link me to the summary?

[trail idol]

Is there any performance diffrance between the 80 and 60?

[midnight iron]

It was mostly rehash and confirming things we roughly knew already.

• Confirmed 60he can’t be upgraded to 8k with it’s current hardware mcu limitations
• Confirmed 8k keyboard polling doesn’t impact system performance like 8k mouse does due to way less data needed and doesn’t run into the same game compatibility issues
• Confirmed new lekker switches v2 is incoming and will be in the 80HE
• 80he will be compatible with tx ap and other brand screw ins/clip ins without needing to sand or worry about tolerances
• White and pink painted alumaze case incoming with new white and pink wristrests as well
• spring packs coming soon

[lapis galleon]

please dont try to ping 75k people

[oak wind]

Is there gonna have the yellow strip ´ wooting ´ ?

[steady escarp]

thanks!

[lapis galleon]

no, the 80he isnt going to have a strap

[lapis galleon]

the 80he will have 8k polling compared to the 60he and Twohe's 1k polling. I'd recommend you watch the video on it in #📣│announcements

[glad fable]

do you know the general timestamp for the lekker v2s?

also thanks for the summary ❤️

[lapis galleon]

soon™️

[glad fable]

talking about yt

[lapis galleon]

oh gotcha nvm

[main dust]

has there been a sound test for 80HE yet

[steady escarp]

not yet

[terse drum]

Will there be a wrist rest for the 80HE or would the TKL one fit approximately?

[lapis galleon]

wrist rest is confirmed

[humble cargo]

I didn't know it had speakers

[upbeat berry]

comes with dts and a 7.1 speaker system

[lapis galleon]

real?

[tight cliff]

#🌟│wooting80he message The speakers are for this sound

& this #🌟│wooting80he message built in to cool them /s

[lapis galleon]

we need the 80he to also be a smoke machine

I cant imagine this causing issues with smoke alarms

[tight cliff]

Built in hologram projectors for a workaround

[upbeat berry]

no

[lapis galleon]

😔

[twin kayak]

is there any roughly time for when the 80he will be out?

at this point i think i should wait for 80he instead of getting 60he

[lapis galleon]

late Q2 early Q3

[twin kayak]

Stimated price? would be around the same?

I just don't know if the features, such as this one with new version switchers and 80khz will be worth waiting for

[hexed flicker]

:D

[winged birch]

It wasn’t confirmed during stream, it was already confirmed a while ago on socials. Nothing new was said during stream about the V2s that we didn’t already know sadly.

[glad fable]

aw I thought there was something new on stream for lekkers

[winged birch]

$200-$220 were the guesses that are said to be nearly spot on. You should really decide on layout rather than 8KHz compared to the 60HE’s 1KHz. Bigger number = better, sure but if you dislike the arrow keys or f-row you should go for the 60HE instead. 👍

[lapis galleon]

I thought they were teased

[quasi crater]

i hope you can select the case you want so you can pick more colors than 1 , i liked the transparent one and also the black one a lot 😅

[drifting phoenix]

Late summer is scuttlebutt/estimate for release but anything could happen

[dense ridge]

@winged birch are u going to preorder 80he too :)?

[humble cargo]

doubt 80HE will be 8khz, wooting doesn't seem too keen on buying into that snake oil

[drifting phoenix]

Uhh

[humble cargo]

but we'll see, its probably good for marketing

[midnight iron]

?

It’s already been announced

[frigid heron]

whjats difference between 60he and 80he

[old jackal]

how is 8khz snake oil? it's just raw specs. possibly the most honest feature you can advertise since response time is an objective fact, compared to subjective features like "smooth switches"

[heady spruce]

When will the 80 he release and what will it look like

[lapis galleon]

late Q2 - early Q3, plenty of renders on the website and videos on their youtube channel

[lapis galleon]

night how are you always out of date

[north stirrup]

Just making my voice heard: I would like to see "dust-proof" stems in the switches used in the 80HE. I really like the concepts I'm seeing for this board, but I dislike the keycap wobble that you get with MX stems that aren't dust-proof. I mean, even if I have to pay extra for alternate stems that I switch out, so to speak, myself. Thanks!

[midnight iron]

wobble is already number 1 thing they're improving for lekker v2 so you should be satisfied there

it's more to do with stem/housing tolerances than being 'dust proof' though - but either way wobble is one of the big things they're addressing for v2

[oak wind]

It will get a better sound they the 60he ?

[midnight iron]

sound is a complicated topic, but most likely yes it'll be better if you mean that chattery sound that is present in the 60he

[north stirrup]

Perhaps every non-dust-proof switch-stem that I've used has been of poor make, but in my experience, having tried dozens of switches, some with dust-proof stems and others without, the stabilizing effect of the dust-proof design is very noticeable. I do hope your'

*you're right about them trying to increase the stability of the keycaps.

To be fair, though, you're not wrong that the house/stem tolerance has a lot to do with it, too. It's just that if that tolerance isn't great, in my experience, the dust-proof design makes up for it, and since we don't exactly have the option to change out our switches on these keyboards... I hope you see where I'm coming from on this. :^)

[midnight iron]

there are switches you can swap to fyi - they've been coming out over the last few months

gateron magnetic jade being the most popular, but there's also the gateron orange dual rail magnetic (ks20u) which is specifically targeted towards stem wobble - both compatible with wooting

[north stirrup]

Oh, is that so? I was still under the impression that the Wooting and the Lekkers were a package deal. Thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out.

[trim sedge]

There are ways to lie about it, for example by interpolating which is what about every single non-wacom manufacturer does

[humble cargo]

I dunno I have a life outside keyboards I guess

[safe meadow]

While thats right, wooting specifically mentioned that 80he comes with 8khz polling AND scanning, meaning theres no need for interpolation since hardware will be more than capable of keeping up with polling rates

[trim sedge]

Yea that's right and I do trust them on implementing it well

[hot sinew]

A red case would be so fire 🔥

[winged birch]

Nah.

[winged birch]

First in line. 😉

I understood it as: The Lekker V2s won’t be that special but they’re working on better switches.

[winged birch]

but because Lekker V2s are NOT the KS-20Us I’m not sure if I understood it correctly. 😂

I’m really not sure. Because they’re not the KS-20Us, the Lekker V2s might not be Gateron Switches at all..

[midnight iron]

they're likely adding other switches to the store not just lekker v2

calder already mentioned talking about adding gateron jades to the store

basically so people can have more options to pair with their wooting at checkout

[winged birch]

“Better” switch lineup doesn’t sound like selling already existing switches to me.

[midnight iron]

v2 is v2. It just likely means there'll be other options besides lekker v2 at checkout like has been mentioned before on livestream

[oak jungle]

guys is there any confirmed spec for 80he or still ?

[midnight iron]

what specs were you after?

there's been bits and pieces confirmed but not a full spec sheet if that's what you mean

[oak jungle]

either way I have the full size but I need to buy the tkl version but I don't know any confirmed specs for this keyboard

[midnight iron]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he has photos of it for the layout and we know it's the first true 8k polling/scanning HE keyboard. A knob add on is confirmed for it as well

gasket mount, screw in stabs, 2.8 degree starting height with optional feet for higher angles and low front height of under 20mm

case will be plastic but it will also have a zinc alloy metal version available. It'll come with pc plate and an upcoming new version of wooting switches

[fallen epoch]

Im eating those feets, maybe they’ll make me taller if i eat em

[oak jungle]

thanks

[nova nexus]

It means that improvements to Lekker switches is one thing being worked on, but these switches have specific design choices that influences the sound and feel in particular ways.

We now have the scale that, and the Hall-Effect keyboard market has matured to the point which, we can make multiple kinds of switches that take some of the design choices of the Lekker switch and take a different path.

[dense ridge]

the sound is the more important thing for me! the lekker 1 sounds really bad 😦

[nova nexus]

These changes are not off the table, but are more fundamental changes versus design choices.

The choices made within the scope of the Lekker switch was for example allowing for more wobble to ensure every keypress is a lekker keypress. Another such choice would be the relative position of the magnet in the switch, or the structure of the housing, those kinds of things.

[fading sentinel]

Hey Guys Should I wait for 80He Or should i buy Two 60He

[nova nexus]

Buy one of each 😉

[dense ridge]

bro if u dont need the arrow keys and F keys then buy just 60he+! i cant live without arrow keys and f keys thats why i am waiting for 80he

[fading sentinel]

alr

[lapis galleon]

dont spread disinformation. the correct answer is to not only buy both, but to also buy a twohe and an UwU

[fading sentinel]

just gonna buy everyting jk

im gonna wait for the 80he probley

[lapis galleon]

aight

[fading sentinel]

so i far heard its gonna be good keyboard

[lapis galleon]

im sure you're gonna be happy with whatever you buy

[lapis galleon]

not only a good keyboard, quite literally the best on the market

[fading sentinel]

W keyboard

[bright turret]

whens the release date

@everyone

[lapis galleon]

dont try to ping 75k people for such a mundane question

be patient and someone will answer your question

that said, the keyboard is estimated to release late Q2 - early Q3

[merry umbra]

Whats Q2 and Q3?

[lapis galleon]

google it 🙂

[oak jungle]

Q stand for quarter

one year have 4 Q's in it

Q3 means near the end of the year

4*

[winged birch]

“we can make multiple kinds of switches” don’t let Gateron hear about that! ⚠️ Lawsuit imminent. ⚠️
🤣🤣🤣🤣

[winged birch]

Wasn’t the idea of the Lekker switch just to have a switch, not so much a specific design choice as it shares its design with a preexisting switch?

[nova nexus]

The origin of the Lekker switch is a long, complicated story where many different nuances are critical

Perhaps Calder can write a book on it in a couple years lol

[verbal solstice]

Something tells me it will be gateron ks-37b. Which are already in atk and keychron. https://twitter.com/GATERONOfficial/status/1721813314827858372

[lapis galleon]

it wont, because ks-37b switches arent compatible with wooting boards

[verbal solstice]

What's stopping them from modifying the PCB a little?)

[lapis galleon]

the fact that these switches are a project separate from the 80he, and that they will be coming to all other wooting boards

if they wanted to use KS-37bs they wouldnt, because KS-20us are almost exactly the same and are already compatible

[winged birch]

😂

[winged birch]

The KS-37B’s bottom housing protrudes through the PCB. On Wooting boards, that’s exactly where the HE sensor is located. The Lekker V2s won’t be 37Bs or 20Us. I doubt 20Ts but maybe.

[lapis galleon]

I also doubt 20Ts due to the closed bottom, but you never know

[winged birch]

20Ts would be a mistake but I also doubt it’d be an entirely new switch or a switch of another brand rather than Gateron.

Due to how many they’d need.

One 80HE would be 86 switches, 84 if they don’t decide to add 2 spares in the box.
That’s 86,000 switches for 1,000 boards and nearly a million for 10,000 boards.

[fallen epoch]

Sounds delicious

[hot sinew]

The current layout for this wooting is a mistake, nobody wants this weird layout, at least at a knob to this keyboard instead of 4 keys that don’t even look right

[midnight iron]

Knob is confirmed as an add on fyi

[heavy flax]

any potential price tag

[glad fable]

Around 200 is what we’re guessing

[heavy flax]

thank you

[spark hound]

Oh wow, we're still doing the layout is a mistake thing

[verbal solar]

this just in: people still have opinions

[spark hound]

It's stated as fact though

[fathom dagger]

ngl i agree at first I looked at it and thought the same, it looked kinda mid

but its definitely growing on me

I think its more that it just looks unusual

but im excited to see the outcome, the hype is real

[molten spindle]

I haven't been around for the 60HE, but is it expected that the 80HE preorders will be limited to x units and you need to be lucky? Or will there be plenty?

[midnight iron]

plenty - founders campaign will be open to preorder what they need, so long as you get in during founders period you'll be good

[jovial ferry]

Production run will be ordered based on the number of preorders. So there will be enough units for each person.

[nova nexus]

The first batch is not infinite in size, but it's extremely large. If it sells out during the month's long founder campaign, that would be quite nice 🙂

[misty fable]

I really hope they can get the wooting he to look and sound like a buetiful custom keyboard.

[verbal solar]

Real question will the lekker v2s have a lighter force?

[glad fable]

I'd assume same force just different design or material

There will be a spring pack that will be offering springs that are lighter than l45s and higher than l60s

[verbal solar]

The problem is that 'Zinc Alloy' is a bit vague. I have worked with a few different types of Zinc Alloy, none of them (probably) the type you would use to cast a Keyboard case, however what I can say is that Zinc Alloys are typically very heavy and durable.

[verbal solar]

The consensus from the Mechanical Keyboard Community was that the 80He layout is anti-consumer and therefor bad. This consensus has not changed. The only thing that changed was that those people mostly lost interest and left, or stayed and the design grew on them. If Wooting didn't have blatantly superior software, I wouldn't even consider Wooting 80He over something like the Keychron Q1He, or even a Drunkdeer A75, but the difference in software and marketing/transparency is what is keeping the 80He alive, not the design, which again, is still not ideal from a Mechanical Keyboard standpoint.

[lapis galleon]

not sure what you mean by anti-consumer

[verbal solar]

It eliminates the possibility of using 3rd Party Cases

[lapis galleon]

anything over 60% doesnt have a standard. even if this were to be TKL or 75%, the likelyhood of being able to swap to a third party case would be incredibly low. furthermore, due to the keyboard being gasket mounted, this would make it impossible to swap to a third party case anyways.

[midnight iron]

You realize there’s a tkl he pcb from geon right now and it’s still not compatible with much without his own custom plates right?

[verbal solar]

There are lots of alternative He PCBs, and none of them are on the same level as Wooting in terms of material quality, support, or software. I never disagreed with this.

[midnight iron]

I mean your claim it’s anti consumer because of 3rd party cases

The cases still don’t fit when you pick a layout that’s commonly used

[verbal solar]

Even 60% Has no standard, but there were a small amount of Cases which were viable alternatives despite the lack of standard, such as the Tofu60, which is something like half the price of the Alumaze60. The difference is, there is a large variety of 75% and TKL Designs that could be compatible, even if there is no technical "standard" layout or fit. But the 80He specifically has no other alternative. Its not "there are very few alternatives" There is no alternative.

[midnight iron]

Your statement is not true

60% has an extremely common dz60 standard

Plus it’s tray mount which is a big thing for case compatibility

[lapis galleon]

60% is extremely standardized?? and without a standard on 75% and TKL that means your options would either be very slim or non existent.

[midnight iron]

The entire reason the 60% is compatible is because huge amounts of 60% use the dz60 and gh60 standard in a tray mount format - meaning you can case swap and not need custom plates for a lot of cases

[verbal solar]

iirc this is not the right place to have this debate. If you want to continue it in PM I would gladly do so, but blowing up the 80He chat is probably not a good idea.

[midnight iron]

It’s not a debate. Your statement is outright incorrect and not true in the slightest

[verbal solar]

The 80He has no 3rd party compatible cases. A 75% or TKL would almost* have to, due to how many options there are available. That was my point.

[midnight iron]

You don’t understand how compatibility works

You need a custom plate to case swap even if the format is the same - which is why I gave you the example of geon venom tkl pcb still having compatibility issues

[verbal solar]

Plates for most any type of case are available from 3rd party retailers i.e. Alibaba.

[midnight iron]

no they aren't - you have to design the plate based on different mounts

geon literally has to design and sell plates for the different cases he sells - it's not just 'buy any plate from aliexpress'

[lapis galleon]

this is also not factoring in the 80he's gasket mount, which would require a case with the same gasket cutouts

[midnight iron]

Look here: https://smartstore.naver.com/geonlab/category/98e821e9448e4537beeaa5cd738a2fe1?cp=1

these are all the plates geon has to make and sell to make his pcbs compatible with the various cases

and even now he has people waiting for plates for some of his boards because they can't mount their new venom in their case until he releases the plate

[verbal solar]

k.

[storm grove]

We are able to change the delivery location if we preorder right?

[stoic jackal]

The millisecond you order your keeb leaves martian orbit and begins its voage to the address you entered. To change it would be to deorbit another one

[molten ember]

yes u just have to email support

[glass junco]

The perfecto size

[midnight iron]

i hope this naming keyboards with random numbers that don't match their layout isn't becoming a thing

[opaque panther]

What type of switches will the 80he use?

[midnight iron]

lekker v2 and compatible with the current existing wooting compatible switches

[opaque panther]

Are they tactile or

I don’t know much

[tight cypress]

As for now linear only

[wind tiger]

Too late

They do that on every board

[opaque panther]

I do like either linear and tactile

[haughty vigil]

Is there a way to get a notification as soon as pre-orders open?

[nova nexus]

Sign up for the newsletter 🙂

[merry grotto]

Hi, maybe a stupid question but will the first/founders batch of 80HE's only be ANSI layout or will it be available in ISO as well? Maybe someone remembers how it was done with the 60HE.

[upbeat berry]

iso and ansi

and JIS

[merry grotto]

great to hear - thank you 🙂

[glass junco]

Ihope this in wooting , the ultimate killer all brands keyboard

[jolly tangle]

no

[humble cargo]

ew no

[glass junco]

nicee argument, no.

Del, Ins, pageun page down are stupid keys , like your argument

[humble cargo]

the keys ain't stupid, the layout is

[glass junco]

for code developers? no need this keyboard magnet or fast input... for gaming no sens for other, for web surf?

tell me one or 2 context for use this

DEL, you have backspace just near, PAGE UP PAGE DOWN , de 1% of people use it, all the rest of mortals use mouse.

[lapis galleon]

fun fact: a lot of code developers are also gamers

[glass junco]

PAUSE! print screen...

jajaja

a much lot of gamers ar just gamers

this is not a example of use

this is not for code developers, rapid trigger magnet options no sens for developers

[lethal abyss]

Yes I don’t use rapid trigger but I prefer using the same keyboard for coding and for gaming

[tight cypress]

I use rapid trigger for writing

[glass junco]

isnt an exapmle of use por teh rest of users, 99% freaks gamers like me,

[glass junco]

this is not a example of use PAUSE key or page up or page down

[glass junco]

this is not a example of use DEL INS PAUSE PAGHE UP PAGE DOWN

[lethal abyss]

If you want a pure gaming board look at the 60he

[tight cliff]

You can change the keycaps and assign keys to what you prefer?

[glass junco]

is only your personal preference

[glass junco]

if you want writing buy other, all this is for gamins

[tight cypress]

PgUp/PgDn is pretty useful for typing

[glass junco]

and is in all keyboards of logitech 7 euros

[lethal abyss]

Man what even is your point, if you want pure gaming just get a 60he, more keys but not full-size is great for mixed surcease so that’s why I like the 75/80% layout

[glass junco]

for gaming are all wooting brand

not for developers

writers

[lethal abyss]

Ok and I want to use the same keyboard for gaming and coding and more so I like the extra keys

[glass junco]

code writers

[lethal abyss]

Can you make a proper paragraph of what your argument is

[tight cypress]

Nah mate, I'm using a lot of DKS macros in coding
Also rapid trigger, I'm already used to soft typing of Lekkers

[glass junco]

this is This is a company, focused on gaming, speed, typing is not an advantage, no one is after you to kill you...

[lethal abyss]

????

[spark hound]

Dks? Really? In what way?

[lethal abyss]

Do you think having extra 4 keys or however many more it is compared to your Layout would not make it a fast keyboard anymore?

[tight cliff]

''Without compromising on productivity''

[tight cypress]

Mostly Ctrl+Shift+X shortcuts and some weird stuff, 4 spaces in one key for Python for example
Most of the stuff bound to F-keys

[spark hound]

Hah, interesting uses. Sounds too confusing for me when it does the dks when you don't want it to

(I've never used dks)

[glass junco]

For the normal user, use the volume wheel more than those 4 new keys, DEL INS PAGE UP PAGE DOWN, PRTSCR, PAUSE (wtf do this??)

[tight cypress]

And vim shortcuts, for example :wq* in one press is pretty useful

[pseudo parrot]

as quin said just get the 60he then , wouldn't that fit your use case better?

[lapis galleon]

I think YOU don’t use them, don’t speak for everyone.

[lethal abyss]

They also said there will be a volume knob you can use instead so you can literally replace them

[spark hound]

We don't know what It would look like though

[glass junco]

Ihave a chinese keyboard just like HE60, but for normal use, not code developers, for nomal use, I use volumen, and F keys. It is uncomfortable por dayly use of USER standar gaming only.

[spark hound]

Lol how does that one work

[glass junco]

The question is, what do they use those keys for, if not for programming? Is this keyboard even for programmers or gamers? Or is the mix for them alone?

[spark hound]

F5 to refresh

[nova nexus]

Alt f4 to speed boost in games

[spark hound]

[glass junco]

and PAUSE!?

[pseudo parrot]

i think the function row and nav cluster are beneficial, i use them on a daily basis at least

[lethal abyss]

You can rebind keys, you can put a volume wheel in, what exactly is your hate towards those keys, who did the pause key kill??

[spark hound]

Home end page up down del are the ones I use a lot even outside of coding.

Just browsing the web..

[pseudo parrot]

for sure

[glass junco]

In what context do you frequently use the pause key??? or all 4 new keys on the top right of the keyboard? No one has answered anything other than to program code or write books.

[lethal abyss]

Yes I don’t use them in games but this is not a keyboard only allowed for gaming???

[nova nexus]

I only use my mouse when I'm gaming (solitaire)

[glass junco]

Is it for games and regular use, or just for regular use by programmers, it is a fairly small niche to have good sales

[lapis galleon]

personally I don’t, but i’m sure a lot of people do. if you don’t need those keys… don’t get the keyboard? sounds like you would be happier with the wooting 60he.

I think the more important things are the function row and the arrow keys

realistically I don’t think anyone is buying a keyboard for just 4 keys

[lethal abyss]

I still don’t understand what is the issue with having those keys

[lapis galleon]

yea

you have the option to not use them

[glass junco]

I already have a Wooting He60 clone, for regular use it is more comfortable to have the f keys, volume, etc.
I don't find any sense in the other new keys that make it huge or bigger and no more useful for regular use, not for working or for those who work with the keyboard, it's not my job.

[lapis galleon]

the keyboard kinda needs em tho, not just for the people who use them but also for the layout to make sense

[glass junco]

already have a Wooting He60 clone, for regular use it is more comfortable to have the f keys, volume, etc.
I don't find any sense in the other new keys that make it huge or bigger and no more useful for regular use, not for working or for those who work with the keyboard, it's not my job.

[lapis galleon]

if they wanted to make a 75% keyboard they would, but obviously they didn’t

[lethal abyss]

Yes you don’t need to post the same thing twice I can read that

[pseudo parrot]

i mean if you dont need the pause key just rebind it to something more useful

[lapis galleon]

you’re saying this as objective fact and that “normal” and “most” will agree with you but plenty of people are happy and fine with the layout.

like I said, if it isn’t for you, don’t buy it.

you don’t need to throw a tantrum on how wooting didn’t think about your very specific needs when making the keyboard.

[spark hound]

To pause games

[tight cypress]

And I much prefer for the knob to be optional

[tight cliff]

Big? (Here's a better picture)

[glass junco]

Nobody has answered what they use those keys for, nobody. Which is the only question I've asked. I can buy another keyboard, of course, but can someone answer the question?

[lethal abyss]

Coding, work, daily Webbrowser surfing

Basically any thing I do on my pc that isn’t gaming

[glass junco]

PAUSE

[lapis galleon]

multiple people have said what they use those keys for but you chose to ignore them because they aren’t “gaming” reasons

[glass junco]

for web surf? INS , DEL? web surf...

PAUSE;

for(x to y);

[lapis galleon]

they also said work and coding

[humble cargo]

again, you can swap em out for anything

you get keycaps to swap them out for other keys

[glass junco]

por work is not this keyboard

AALL you CAB BUY other for it cheaper

[nova nexus]

A keyboard is "for" whatever the user chooses, that is not for you to decide

[humble cargo]

don't get hung up on the layout in pics, its not set in stone

[lethal abyss]

I am using a wooting for work I use the same pc for work and gaming, I’m not going to switch my keyboard after I finish my day???

[lapis galleon]

I think you keep failing to realize that people want to use the same keyboard for work and gaming

it’s a damn keyboard, that’s the point

[glass junco]

for work how hork whit the keyboard.

[nova nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyTY4gfWOY
You can even use your keyboard to make breakfast

[lapis galleon]

it’s an input device you can use it as an input device

[humble cargo]

are you arguing you can't use a keyboard for work if it doesn't have very specific layouts/keys available?

sounds like a you problem tbh

[pseudo parrot]

you can find this information on wootings own website lol

[glass junco]

I know I'm in a very strange world, I've entered to give the point of view of a NON-programmer, if it's just to sell to programmers, good luck, progamers gamers... an even smaller niche.

[humble cargo]

using a 60%, a 65% and a fullsize here

and guess what, I can use all of them to do all the things I do on a computer

[lethal abyss]

Just to remind you, there is an optional volume wheel coming so you can use that, do you really think having a pause key is going to make that not useable for gaming anymore?

[glass junco]

congratulations

[humble cargo]

thank you

my mothers very proud

[nova nexus]

I'm proud too, buddy

[glass junco]

I-m too.

[lethal abyss]

so if you use a volume knob there anyway, you will not make the board smaller by removing the pause key anyway

so why exactly is the pause key an issue

[glass junco]

no es un problema, me ha quedado claro que es perfecta para, programadores jugadores, que están todo el dia enfrente del monitor y para descoectar siguen enfrente... seguro que están toda laplantilla de las FANG pensando en comprar uno para programar y luego jugar o porqueno todo al mismo tiempo.

[lethal abyss]

english?

[humble cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/arlo-hello-puppet-bueno-cookie-monster-gif-17810529

[glass junco]

It is not a problem, it has become clear to me that it is perfect for gamer programmers, who spend all day in front of the monitor and to disconnect they are still in front of it... I'm sure the entire FANG staff is thinking about buying one to program and then play or because not all at the same time.

[lethal abyss]

yeah you are just hallucinating arguments that nobody ever made now lol

[glass junco]

smllest niche ever

[glass junco]

why not the because i'm more mornal than you, sorry .

[nova nexus]

Thankfully we're more than capable of doing our own market research

[lethal abyss]

you know you can just put the volume wheel in and replace the pause key with like page up or something?

[nova nexus]

@glass junco I would suggest you relax, enjoy the keyboard or don't, but at this point you're arguing for the sake of arguing, and that's not necessary

[humble cargo]

so I've been out of the loop a while, 80HE is getting a knob/volume wheel?

[pseudo parrot]

yeah seems so, a knob

[nova nexus]

An optional knob, yes

[humble cargo]

oo

[lethal abyss]

so you can turn it up and properly call people a knob

[humble cargo]

you better not make the transparent case option too

my bank account can't take it

[glass junco]

Don't forget the gamer housewives from 30 to 40 years old (irony on) who have 200e for a keyboard, whaiting for HE80

[jolly tangle]

[reef ruin]

Option forever or

[nova nexus]

Let me be more direct:
Drop it and move on

[humble cargo]

can't really do a 75/80 layout much better than 80HE imo, I really don't like those 75% that cuts into the lower right corner of the main cluster

[jolly tangle]

I sense dutch

[humble cargo]

to squeeze in arrow keys

[tight cliff]

That started all this, the Corsair K65 or whatever it is 😆

[humble cargo]

non-standard keycaps

[jolly tangle]

[glass junco]

https://tenor.com/view/little-girl-cute-oh-my-god-too-much-stress-oh-gosh-gif-17610373

jajaja Don't be upset, I'm joking, I'm not angry, greetings from Spain

[glass junco]

It is not my specific need, it is yours, the keys are for programmers like you. Not for people who don't work with the keyboard, like me, but, forgive me if I think there are more people like me (who don't work with the keyboard) than like you.

[lapis galleon]

well now you’re just assuming things; i’m not a programmer

[glass junco]

i-m wrong

[humble cargo]

again x2, you can remap every key

and put the correct keycaps on there

[glass junco]

wtf is remap?

[humble cargo]

you can put any key input on any key

[glass junco]

i-m plug and play

[humble cargo]

want a keyboard with just the letter A on every key? you can do it

and anything in between

[lapis galleon]

wouldn’t be a really useful keyboard, but you can do it

[humble cargo]

right lol

[glass junco]

I will wait for the HE 70-75

[proper pine]

are there any new images on the white zinc version, that I might have missed?

[humble cargo]

ok see you in half a decade

[glass junco]

To have extra keys that I don't use, I already have a keyboard.

[lethal abyss]

no new images yet, we had lunar new year recently so things will still be slow to start up again in asia

[glass junco]

full keyboard 150keys, nice keys usable for all

remapables

[humble cargo]

tho I doubt it will happen because pretty good chance it'd cannibalize sales from the 80

[glass junco]

why? all brands have 75.

[humble cargo]

wooting doesn't follow trends, it sets them

[glass junco]

all are wrong, only wooting have the red pill?

Logitech are noobs, Corsari too... Razer

[humble cargo]

well the whole industry basically jumped on the hall effect train because of wooting even though steelseries have technically had a HE product on the market for longer

because they actually spent more than 5 minutes figuring out how the technology could be used unlike SS

like akbar said earlier, they do their research with everything they make

not just copy x brand because it seems popular atm

[glass junco]

I'm talking about the size, 70, 75, they all have it, not that they are the same as wooting, in gaming wooting are the best, soon for programmers gamers also he80

[humble cargo]

and for everyone else there's the fullsize, see they have the whole market covered

[pseudo parrot]

get a 60he along with a few uwu's, jerryrig your own 75% lol (joking)

[humble cargo]

or a 60HE + a macropad like me

[pseudo parrot]

yea thats a smarter solution haha

[humble cargo]

sure you won't get hall effect on the macropad, but do you really need it there

[pseudo parrot]

thats fair

[glass junco]

freak solution, Go out into the street and ask for the metro, which is a UWU, everyone will laugh in your face.

I-,m discover this here in wooting, andI still don't know what it's for

[humble cargo]

I mean this got almost the identical amount of keys as 80HE lmao

[pseudo parrot]

was just joking, wouldn't actually suggest this haha

[glass junco]

Nice conversation, thank you all for participating, I return to the outside world, I hope that the opinion of a common standard, nothing special, is of any use even if it is only for contrast, they don't just sing in your ear everything you want to hear. I had a good time, I hope you do too. sorry for my english is not mine, is google transalte.

[jolly tangle]

thanks for stepping by

have a good night

[boreal jacinth]

So is there going to be further change to the arrow keys? Are they going to be more centered/shifted to the right

[spark hound]

Google translate is worse than I thought it was

[verbal solar]

lmao

[midnight iron]

that was announced awhile ago

[halcyon mesa]

So far i've only been watching the channel from the shadows, a snicker specter, but i'm gonna finally contribute by saying i like where the development of 80he is going so far

[marble ruin]

@halcyon mesa Agree, i just want mine white or azure zinc version of 80HE with knob

[dreamy sedge]

Pls dont Talk about the 80he i want IT so Bad xD

[merry grotto]

I never use the volume wheel, normal user has a DAC and changes volume there with windows volume 100%. Wait - what is a normal user? 😄

[boreal jacinth]

What/who are you referring to

[waxen turret]

Hi, I accidentally stumbled across the 80he and actually think it's quite nice 🫶 .
Is there any word on when this will be available for preorder?
I currently have a Q1 HE pre-ordered to try out in a few months, but don't think I will like it .
Unfortunately, when researching the Keychron keyboard and also testing the Gateron switches, I discovered more and more disadvantages :(.

[nova nexus]

Intending to deliver to customers this summer

[sharp verge]

If the actual PCB is compatible with other cases like the 60HE, that would be great.

[lament saffron]

Not likely to happen due to a lack of layout and mounting standard

[sharp verge]

One could only wish x.x

[silk lichen]

when does the 80he come out

[vague umbra]

no clue yet, i was tempting buy vxe atk68 here…but might wait for 80HE

[elder cradle]

Does anyone know what switches the 80he will use and will there be a 80he module?

[midnight iron]

A new lekker v2 type switch and compatible with other options like gateron jades. Yes there will be a kind of barebones version (so no switches and keycaps but it will have a case and the rest of the keyboard prebuilt)

[dreamy sedge]

Since i dont have any experience can somone be so Kind and explain the different feel of lekkers and gateron?

[verbal solar]

Gateron manufactures the Lekker switches. From a technology/performance standpoint, the Lekker switches and Gateron Magnetic switches (KS-20 Oranges, Jades, etc.) are identical. The main differences most people will care about is Actuation Force, i.e. how much force it takes to begin compressing the spring for the switch. For enthusiasts, things like Stem Wobble and the actual Sound Profile of the switch come into play. AFAIK, the most recent batches of Lekker Switches have good factory lubing and are essentially on par with Gateron Jade switches. Gateron is also releasing 3 new HE switches for/alongside Keychron in a couple months. These switches will have 30/45/60g actuation force and have a "dual-rail" design, which allegedly reduces stem wobble. From what I have seen, current regular mechanical Gateron Dual-Rail switches do not have a perceptible difference from their standard switches.

[midnight iron]

The keychron ones are recolored versions of existing switches fyi

They just change the color and offer different weight springs

The main difference is actually stem wobble between lekker and ks20 vs jades and newer gen ones

[verbal solar]

Keychron gateron magnetic switches are 100% dual rail design, not just recolors. Though, functionally, yeah recolors.

[midnight iron]

Yes and dual rail is already out

Ks20u are dual rails that came out recently

[verbal solar]

O, I didn't see those drop, only knew abt their lunar probe mechanical switches. Are the 20u's any good?

[midnight iron]

Can ask in modding channel for videos of it

[dreamy sedge]

Thank you everyone cant wait to get the 80he x)

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron do we have any info about 80he keycaps? are they the same as on 60he?

[midnight iron]

No info there. But keycaps are keycaps, so I wouldn’t really expect much there

All we know there is it will come with a full set of keycaps to change around the extra keys on the right part (pg up/down, del etc) to whichever keys you want

I’d assume a lot of people interested in modding will buy the barebones version without keycaps anyway

[lapis galleon]

the keycaps on the 2he and 60he are exactly same and they already have the keycap molds, so one could assume they will be the same.

not sure why it matters tho, (for the most part) PBT is PBT

[fading sentinel]

should i wait with buying 60he+ or should i wait not for 80he

[jolly tangle]

how long can u wait

[waxen turret]

Do you need function keys?

[fading sentinel]

Could wait few weeks

[jolly tangle]

make it months

[fading sentinel]

uhm i dont realy know xd

[waxen turret]

The 80HE will come in summer I think

[fading sentinel]

Do you think worth to wait?

[jolly tangle]

no

[waxen turret]

yes 😉

[fading sentinel]

i will think about it

[waxen turret]

It depends on what you need.

[fading sentinel]

Just need good keyboard with fast respon

[jolly tangle]

I see the 60he is in stock

[fading sentinel]

aitt good to know thanks

[waxen turret]

I too struggle with decisions. Cancel my Q1 HE to get an 80 HE. Get both and sell the one I don't like....

[lyric nymph]

Do we have price range for the 80HE?

[jovial ferry]

Most likely around 200-220€

[lapis galleon]

just to play it safe I'd say $200-250

[lyric nymph]

Okie, tyvm

[vital plume]

when does the 80he come out? lo cant wait for it. loving the 60 though

[verbal solar]

ok

[glad fable]

Q2 2024
April-June

[untold wyvern]

Er.. <@&375234916776017933> ^^ might want to nuke the spam

[remote snow]

uhhh

[topaz night]

I got a push notif for this

[untold wyvern]

Just bot spam, seems to have been binned by the mods now 👍

[nova nexus]

Thank you for the tag, glad to see it got resolved lickety-split while I was sleeping 🙂

[dreamy sedge]

I dreamed that the preorder started

[tight cypress]

It's not April yet

[oak jungle]

we have to wait till summer

[left turtle]

i just canceled my holy 60 pre-order to focus on HE80 ... i'm done with 60s. Already have 2 of them, enough 😄
Looking forward for the HE80 tbh ...

[dire cypress]

hey i'm new but that's the difference between 60 and 80

i ordered my 60 yesterday, is that a mistake lol

[polar kelp]

80 has the F row and some more keys in general

[quartz trellis]

80HE is more of a TKL, having the Function keys and dedicated arrow keys

i wouldn't call it a mistake tbh, because it takes at least another 2 months before they start the pre-orders and at least another 3 months on top of that before the first orders will be shipped

in total i'd expect the first 80HEs to be shipped around September

[left turtle]

i've been using my TKL a lot more latelly ... it goes with your mood ... sometimes you just want a small keyboard, other moments you want something with more usability, like having your F row ...

it's always good to have one of each

😄

[waxen turret]

Hi, will there be a Brass plate available for the 80HE?

[dire cypress]

Thanks for the explanation! If I prefer the 60% keyboards, will the wooting 60 be best for me?

[waxen turret]

Depends of what do you want. Expectations noise wise, what you do on the computer and how picky you are, your preferences...

[left turtle]

even if you only game on your pc ...

depends on the games, if they need F row or not ... if you can remap the keys to your liking ...

depends of a lot of stuff

i like the 60% because of the small footprint, but with this small footprint, also brings some annoyances ...

so it's very personal

[proper pine]

Ordered White Keycaps for the White Zinc Version. Only thing left to do is pray to the White Zinc Church 🤍 ⛪

[lapis galleon]

pretty sure the keyboard is going to come with a PC plate

wooting releases all of their design files on their github so you can get your own cut

[waxen turret]

I will do, also I hope they do a Brass case too.

They talked about a Zinc alloy cast in a video I watched.

[lapis galleon]

I think a brass case would be way too expensive

zinc alloy can be cast which greatly reduces the cost

[waxen turret]

Brass can be cast too

Its a mixture of Zinc and Cooper

[lapis galleon]

oh I did not know that. still, brass is pretty expensive.

like I said earlier all of their design files are available, so you can make your own case

[pine vigil]

Go for Copper only. Gets a real nice patina when exposed to air if you're into that. Loses its shine first and later turns green.

[waxen turret]

Nahh, I like the sound and weight of brass, I'm not into oxidation looks.

I probably get it powder coated anyway.

[pine vigil]

Fair enough, to each their own 👍

[graceful copper]

when it goes on sale?

[tight cypress]

Q2 starts pre-order Founder's campaign 🥳

[graceful copper]

???

when?

[tight cypress]

Q2 - April~June

[graceful copper]

thanks, that's a lot of time☹️

the price is known?

[lethal abyss]

probably around the same as the others

[graceful copper]

if i buy it on the pre order, u will get something?

[nova nexus]

Yes, the keyboard

[waxen turret]

and the packaging for the keyboard

[lapis galleon]

and the cable

[polar kelp]

What do you guys think the keyboard is gonna cost (just an estimation would be fine)

300 €?

[lapis galleon]

$200-250

[polar kelp]

How much do you think the zink alloy case?

probably less than the alu case for the 60 right?

cause no cnc and you can do it in a mold iirc

[fallen epoch]

Speaking of the cable, do we know what color its gonna be?

[ember canyon]

what is the price estimate for the wooting 80he?

[waxen turret]

We don't know yet, so only guessing. But probably around the same price as the others.

[lapis galleon]

the $200-250 estimate includes it, the zinc alloy wont be a separate case tmk, just a different version you can order

[polar kelp]

okay tysm ❤️

[lapis galleon]

im assuming the plastic version will be around $200 with the zinc alloy being a bit higher than that

[polar kelp]

[lime falcon]

guys 80he price probably 200 bucks?

[amber merlin]

200-250$

[lime falcon]

💀

[amber merlin]

I mean u just scroll up and u can see why its gonna be that much

[lime falcon]

im not saying anything

its ok price

[last wasp]

80HE update today?

[jolly thunder]

pre order 80he?

[lapis galleon]

not yet, should be open for pre-order soon™️

I think it was Q2-Q3

[jolly thunder]

ok

[viscid owl]

Will the 80He do my laundry?

[waxen turret]

If you ask nicely

[winged birch]

https://youtu.be/aITsh74bCkY?si=gE3jzjTEoQ3kleo-

[whole badger]

Good video update

[nova nexus]

Oh snap it's out!

[winged birch]

Faster than the announcement. 😉

[slow lance]

Hey would i need to build the 80he by myself only so i can get an iso layout?

[steady escarp]

sounds like most likely

[slow lance]

☹️

[steady escarp]

It'll be very easy to do

[nova nexus]

There will be preassembled ISO versions, just except that they won't have keycaps preinstalled

[steady escarp]

even better

[winged birch]

Wooting 80HE

“_Hi you,

We announced the 80HE in a fanfare of thunderous applause! controversy? We heard you loud and clear... So we decided to take a step back, postpone the Founders' campaign, and took the time to listen to your feedback

The last couple of months we’ve made the necessary adjustments and slowly introduced you to the rest of the 80HE. Now, we’re confident to move forward and start the countdown towards the Founders' campaign.

Founders’ campaign

The Wooting 80HE Founders' Campaign launches on the 14th of March, 2024 at 15:00 CET (6:00AM PST). It’ll run for 32 days, ending on the 15th of April

During the Founders’ campaign you can get exclusive perks and benefits when you pre-order your 80HE. You'll become one of the Founders that has brought the Wooting 80HE to life.

You can find a countdown, along with updates, on the official Wooting 80HE page. This will also redirect to the Founders' campaign when launched.

Next week we’ll share the available options, pricing, perks, and estimated delivery dates.

This is you and us, disrupting the industry together._”

[slow lance]

Ok then its fine

[steady escarp]

did you get this in an email?

[winged birch]

I did indeed.

[nova nexus]

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN

[steady escarp]

I didnt get it yet

[nova nexus]

Should be in your inbox in the next few minutes

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he
Otherwise you might not be signed up to the 80HE marketing list

[steady escarp]

got it now woo

[marble ruin]

will pre-orders contain also zinc varriants in some colors?

[nova nexus]

450 people smashing them emotes hell yea

[nova nexus]

There will be preassembled Zinc-Alloy options for all layouts 😄

[winged birch]

Only preassembled or separate too?

[dreamy sedge]

HYPE

[steady escarp]

it's over 600 and growing so fast still

[dreamy sedge]

march 14th my wallet is ready

[elder beacon]

My only questions are:
Are there any plans to offer PBT keycaps for Spanish and French instead of ABS? and why these two specifically don't have a PBT option?

[nova nexus]

The zinc option(s???) will either come as a preassembled version or as an accessory but the same color won't come as both preassembled AND as an accessory during the preorder

[tiny tartan]

I'm so excited to order the 80he

[winged birch]

I see, what about the ABS case(s), will they be available separately too?

[spiral echo]

I'd be if i had the money lmao

[neon marsh]

LETS GOOO

[verbal solstice]

we have to wait how long? 3 months. Lol?

[lyric nymph]

Oh no, my wallet is gonna cry

[neon marsh]

Cannot wait to purchase

[nova nexus]

Plans yes, at least for ISO-FR, but I don't expect those will be an option at launch. There's a fair chance that ISO-FR would be able to upgrade from ABS to PBT later down the road, once they're ready.

The reason we've only offered ABS so far is market size, but our French speaking community has been growing quite a bit where it starts to make business sense to open an ISO-FR PBT mold!

ISO-ES is a little smaller of a market still, not sure if it's big enough yet.
ISO-IT is another we're looking at supporting, but maybe not quite yet.

[elder beacon]

Bummer. Well, understandable. Thanks anyways ^^

[tiny tartan]

13 days

[supple dock]

how much will 80HE
be?

[spiral echo]

I guess around 200 maybe?

No idea btw

[verbal solstice]

I mean, how long do you wait before you get your hands on it

[nova nexus]

Same story: if the plastic case option comes in preassembled, it won't be sold as a separate accessory, but we'll have some separate ones available at launch

[solid vapor]

What is the wooting 80HE founders campaign do we get a role if we were here when it is released?

[tiny tartan]

Oh
Yea I don't mind waiting

[nova nexus]

Perks and prices to be announced next week 🙂

[supple dock]

ahh okay

[solid vapor]

Thank you for letting me know 🙂

[spiral echo]

Imagine giving away a free kb... dreaming is free I guess

[solemn mesa]

Price?!?! I literally just bought the 60!!!

[nova nexus]

Yes it will have a price 🙂

[nova nexus]

[lapis galleon]

it will???

[spiral echo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Happens every time

[solemn mesa]

Like it just came yesterday

[winged birch]

Alright. Everyone that wishes should be able to order any or all 80HE cases. I hope that will be the case. 👍

[crisp vigil]

Will the 80he have the tag take control like the 60he?

[nova nexus]

You can cancel an order before it ships for any reason, or you can return it within 30 days (just pay return shipping)

Ooorrrr even better, get both!

[lapis galleon]

man I thought you were gonna charge people without telling them the price beforehand

[ruby jungle]

So we can preorder it in 13 days?

[winged birch]

Yes.

[spiral echo]

When I bought my GMK67, the next week the GMK87 with QMK-VIA comp released, and at the start was even cheaper then the GMK67

[ruby jungle]

YIPPIEEE

[solemn mesa]

I didn't know if there was already a price nerd. 😂🤣

[nova nexus]

Trust me bro, just give me all your payment details and don't look at your bank statement, it'll be fine

[spiral echo]

I was like ._.

[lapis galleon]

I trust you'll handle it

[spiral echo]

Lol... I hope he will be able to buy a chewgum at least after that... I MEAAAANN..... what?

[remote moss]

Is the official version of the shell transparent?

or black

[winged birch]

Black, not sure if the smokey one will be available.

[last wasp]

So no clear white? ._. I guess we'll see soon!

I need this

[nova nexus]

Meee tooo

[remote moss]

ok thx for answering my question

I also wanted a transparent version of the case, or an aluminum one...

[left turtle]

this time around i don't know which colour i will choose 😄 eager to see what colours will be in place 😄

[remote moss]

I would definitely choose the color to see the internal components

[lyric nymph]

Will the knob version be availabe on the preorder?

[winged birch]

The 80HE won’t include R4: Del, End and PageDown/R3: Insert, Home and PageUp keycaps I assume?

[whole badger]

Can’t wait to preorder!!!

[winged birch]

Maybe, maybe not. 😉

[tiny tartan]

Wrist rest included for free pog

[winged birch]

I think “To be revealed during the campaign” means knob.

[viscid vessel]

Is the zinc alloy case option the same thing the wooting one was made of? I got one of those back in the original kickstarter and it rocks, the thing is built like a tank.

[lyric nymph]

maybe, hopefully

[grim fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

[winged birch]

No, I don’t think so.

The zinc alloy would be more sturdy though, that’s for sure.

[viscid vessel]

Ah, yeah I found it. The Wooting One was made out of aluminum, you think zinc alloy is better?

[winged birch]

It’s stronger and heavier.

Woot One was sheet aluminum and plastic no?

[viscid vessel]

I don't know if it was sheet or milled but it's sturdy as hell, keys are plastic though.

The relevant body components are all aluminum.

[light bear]

i just cancel my 60E order to buy this one, im exited

[viscid vessel]

I've been wanting to get a successor to the Wooting One, but the Two is too big for me, and the 60HE is too small, this seems just right

[winged birch]

Yeah I think the top of the Wooting One was sheet aluminum and the bottom plastic. The 80HE Zinc Alloy option will be metal through and through.

[viscid vessel]

Niiice, looking forward to it. What's this knob stuff people are talking about?

[lapis galleon]

a knob addon, we arent sure how it'll look and work just yet

[viscid vessel]

why would you want a knob on your keyboard

[winged birch]

No info on it sadly, but hopefully more during campaign.

[rose crane]

volume

[winged birch]

Volume control for example.

[rose crane]

mute sounds with 1 click

[viscid vessel]

i guess that's fair

[midnight iron]

Editing too is nice with a knob

[lapis galleon]

volume control, the look of it, a fidget toy

[lapis galleon]

YO DID YOU WATCH THE NEW VIDEO

[humble cargo]

the top plate surface finish makes it kinda hard to tell if its metal or plastic, metal would make sense for rigidity

[remote moss]

I would like to know how fast the 80HE can scan at...

[lapis galleon]

WHITE 80HE REALLLLLL

[lapis galleon]

8khz

[winged birch]

It’s brushed I think, just like the Steelseries Apex line.

[midnight iron]

Course. The church of the white/retro cream/light mocha will not be denied

We grow stronger with every passing week

[remote moss]

It's not the polling speed, it's the scanning speed of each switch

[lapis galleon]

8khz

[winged birch]

Polling and scanning.

[bitter vector]

it does 8k polling and scan rate

[humble cargo]

yeah it probably is

[remote moss]

omg

[viscid vessel]

i want the 80HE to use its 8khz speed to detect when you're hitting a key really hard and automatically capitalize it

[winged birch]

Yes.

[rose crane]

what can you expect with the pre order gift

[remote moss]

cool

[tawny flame]

I have a keyboard with a knob on one of them.... I use the knob almost never (use the windows sliders more often). I also have a knob on my num pad, never use that. I will not buy a knob for this version.

[lapis galleon]

hasnt been annouced yet

[humble cargo]

the finish matches the sides and bottom parts so well its kinda hard to tell by feel

[rose crane]

what did the 60he got?

[winged birch]

This would actually be possible. 😂

Probably hard to get used to though.

[remote moss]

Hopefully, the color can be selected for the starter, and it would be better if there was an upgraded aluminum alloy case

[humble cargo]

could probably do it with dks or something, but you'd likely have to do it for every key

which isn't ideal

[winged birch]

I hope DKS won’t be limited to 20 keys on the 80HE.

[humble cargo]

its 40 on arm boards

[winged birch]

Free DKS, unlimited DKS when?

[odd arch]

when is the 80he expected?

[winged birch]

Q2-Q3 2024.

[lapis galleon]

this wouldnt even require the 8khz, it just needs to detect how fast the key is getting pressed down

[humble cargo]

tbh am still trying to think of something dks would be useful for

for my needs that is

I use mod tap and toggle key a lot, but so far I haven't run into a use case for dks

[lapis galleon]

it wont, all their boards use ARM now which supports 40 advanced keys. would be odd if they didnt use ARM on the 80he.