🔧│keyboard_modding

[sharp yew]

or size up the kitty colorway from the mini

[tame vessel]

If you're not looking to spend more I think it'd be like tape mod and gummy mounting. Though gummy mounting means finding an o-ring that works.

And like Tape Modding is just painters or masking tape

[polar girder]

Beast mini pretty tempting ngl

Idk about ftip for big hands tho

Could be sweet

[devout torrent]

ftip for big hands I use dav3 pro

🙂

[median spade]

the shipping from mekanish for fjell tho

[polar girder]

No way dav3 doesn’t work for me

No inner hand mobility

[devout torrent]

I like ergos for ftip

using a stormbreaker rn

smaller than te dav3

[uncut musk]

dav3 felt to big for me so i had to return it

[harsh dove]

Was gonna get a grey one but got black salvation instead

Kinda want the ultra forest Fjell

[thick mural]

yes

i bought both from the official international store

[thick mural]

the grey looks more blue so there's not much that suits it

[median spade]

word was just asking if they're actually in stock as it has the lead time "could be 4 weeks" at bottom

[thick mural]

yeah it's just a disclaimer

both mine shipped within 2 days

[stray tiger]

I love the Fjell cases, I just didn't love the height/typing angle. I do think they are one of the best looking and sounding cases for the 60HE.

[median spade]

Very tempted too as was able to acquire a merro60 so if didn't like it for wooting I could make a oring gummy build for it........

Salvation looks good for wooting too

[stray tiger]

https://github.com/gaclee3b/shared/blob/main/merro60/klippet_fjell_adjustment.jpeg in case you go that route

[stray tiger]

I bought two Salvations during the group buy and both arrived damaged so I never actually got to build it out. I have heard that they fixed the damage issue by adding foam between the top of the keyboard and the zippered pouch

[median spade]

It's also hard for me to buy the Salvation as I should have done it when they dropped it on NK to $220 for black friday or whatever it was

Not that the pricing on fjell is any better but the merro pcb does make it more enticing

[devout torrent]

the front height on them is crazy

[stray tiger]

Personal preference of course, but it was for me. That being said I prefer 4-5 degrees of angle also.

[median spade]

The bezels on the Salvation also have me like hmmm, they're just so chunky and blocky looking

[devout torrent]

same here

it's what made me decide on the freebird

at least for now

[devout torrent]

yeah they're massaive

[stray tiger]

I actually have a very rare solid brass Klippe that I plan to toss one of my merro PCB's in along that same line if thinking

[median spade]

Am I interpreting this imagine correctly to put like thin foam on those points?

[thick mural]

the fjell sounds so good because its so dense

[devout torrent]

hibi hero also looks good

but its got huge bezels

and a tall ass front

[thick mural]

i bought a tofu60 redux too

[devout torrent]

like 23mm or someshit

[thick mural]

gonna compare

[median spade]

I had a fjell back in 2021 and no complainst with it, but merro60 wasn't even a thing or going to be a thing for a while at that point

was good tho

[stray tiger]

That's what it says. I only saved the link since I plan to build that Klippe

[thick mural]

i only have one gripe with the fjell

the usb port is massive

[median spade]

Word, it just has no text on it so I was clarifying

[thick mural]

so i accidentally miss it and go under or above the port lol

[stray tiger]

One of the things I like about it lol. ALL of my cables will fit fine

[median spade]

That do be true

but i agree with thock as it allows for all cables

[stray tiger]

That makes sense lol

[sharp yew]

dude thats a godsend compared to the tofu

[thick mural]

yeah i mean compatibility wise its amazing

[median spade]

the more we talk the more i press buy on this fjell page.........................

[sharp yew]

trying to get a good friction fit on the tofu

[median spade]

Salvation if it had thinner bezels would probably win the choice

[stray tiger]

Specific color or the unfinished one?

[median spade]

Black because I'm boring

[thick mural]

i do agree tho the typing angle is very meh

it sits pretty high

[median spade]

Typing angle for me is okay as I'm a 8 degree enjoyer

[thick mural]

i like it with a wrist rest

[median spade]

front height is tall tho for sure

[stray tiger]

Yeah some people love 7-8 degree boards

[median spade]

my fave board in my collection f1-8x is like 9 degree iirc

[stray tiger]

Its what makes the hobby so great. There is no right or wrong in most cases.

[thick mural]

im currently just waiting on some keycaps

[median spade]

flat keycaps add to the angle being a little harsh too will say that

[thick mural]

flat is what makes it bearable for me

[median spade]

Oh interesting

[thick mural]

plus flat is much better for gaming imo

easier to slide my finger across the keys

[median spade]

Ive been using cherry so long that when i put some dsa I have on it. It was like trying to find a needle in haystack on keys for me since they weren't sculpted

when gaming

[thick mural]

my switches also came really lightly lubed

to the point some switches get stuck when pressing

gonna wait for my stuff to come to redo this build

my old 60he was handlubed and completely overhauled

[stray tiger]

I'm pretty much 100% cherry also, but Im also a horrible typist. My gray flag is that I like shiny GMK keycaps for gaming because they get a little tacky feeling and my fingers dont slide

[thick mural]

i just fit my module in and used it as is with l45s

got some raptors coming

stem swap and lube job and they should be golden

[stray tiger]

Still waiting on my module. Warehouse is slammed so its been "ready to ship" for 3 days now. It should be here next week though

[thick mural]

nice

[median spade]

🤝

Worn in gmk feeling too good

[thick mural]

i got lucky that mine was shipped within a few days

[median spade]

I forget how brand new ones have that chalky feeling

[stray tiger]

wow first person I heard agree with me on that

[thick mural]

worn in abs is so good

[median spade]

I love abs and don't mind shine

[thick mural]

i just don't like the look

[median spade]

a rare breed

[stray tiger]

damn you guys are my people

[thick mural]

worn in abs is very nice if u game a lot

makes it grippier imo

even tho it doesnt look it

[stray tiger]

Yup. But the OCD is strong for those who don't like the shine

[thick mural]

i had gmk samurai on my first 60he

[stray tiger]

especially an uneven shine.

[thick mural]

ive had 4 60hes now lol

[stray tiger]

Yeah people think the shine would be slick/slippery but its the opposite

[thick mural]

i might just skip the 80he

i don't really need the extra keys

and i like the customisation of the 60he

[stray tiger]

Skipping it is an option?

https://tenor.com/view/what-ice-cube-stare-look-nobody-told-me-gif-17743053

[thick mural]

for someone like me who consoooms it probably wont be

hard to skip

[stray tiger]

I love the wooting products / team so I'll buy it even though 60% is my preferred form factor.

[median spade]

4 of them damn

what happeend to the other 3 lol

[thick mural]

got the first batch

in ansi us

then arm in uk iso

and another in iso so i could make another build

and now the module

[stray tiger]

Yeah when my module and Alumaze arrive next week it'll be my 4th but it was mainly so I could do some custom builds with custom plates.

[thick mural]

i have a carbon plate and a copper plate

[stray tiger]

Ive been able to build a 60HE out with custom plates for the Hive60, Frog Mini, Sirius60 and Raindrop60

[thick mural]

but pc seems to be the best ive used so im just using the wooting pc plate

[stray tiger]

I actually went Aluminum on all of them because it was the cheapest choice through sendcutsend

[thick mural]

copper is real nice

its just too harsh

[median spade]

you used jades too in all your bulds?

or just lekkers

[median spade]

bro the prices on sendcutsend now are disgusting

I have gotten so many plates over the years from them and aluminum is so expensive now

[stray tiger]

Its been rough for about a year now for sure. They are super reliable though

[median spade]

very much so

was wild to see some of my plates i paid the $29 minimum for are now $70

[stray tiger]

Unrelated question. Does anyone here have experience with BTTV or FFZ for Twitch chat integration in OBS?

[harsh dove]

I always say embrace the shine

Shows true power

[harsh dove]

I have a little bit

Also you guys make me want to buy Fjell

But idk what color lol

[median spade]

cam how have you liked your salvation for wooting btw

[harsh dove]

And I don’t need one

[stray tiger]

I have so many friends who never even unbox their GMK because they dont want to use them haha

[harsh dove]

So dumb lol

[stray tiger]

Just curious which is better or if Im overthinking it.

[harsh dove]

Honestly man, most are using 7tv nowadays

So I’d integrate that personally

[stray tiger]

Someone else suggested chatterino. I'll look into 7tv also

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah chatterino is good too

[harsh dove]

I’ve loved it personally

Still wanna try Fjell just to feel the weight diff

Mainly got salvation cause it was slightly different than traditional tray mount

[upbeat topaz]

thockmaxxing>looksmaxxing

[harsh dove]

I also appreciate the thick bezels on the salvation personally

I don’t want paper thin metal around my keeb lol

I wanna be able to bash someone’s head if needed without denting the case

[fresh ridge]

why are so many people buying aluminum cases? what are the pros?

[harsh dove]

Sound quality and Premium Feel to your keeb

Unless you think plastic feels premium

Then ignore me

[fresh ridge]

isnt plasti c more thocky?

[harsh dove]

Yes it is

Less resonance

[fresh ridge]

i would say more people prefer sound over premium feel right?

[harsh dove]

Mmh that’s hard to answer in one sentence lol

[fresh ridge]

true

[harsh dove]

Most people prefer a premium case

But they also get a premium case to change sound

[fresh ridge]

hmmm, in my case i would like to have better sounding...but i also want a Low profile case 😦 unfortunately there is no plastic low profile

[harsh dove]

But it is easier to achieve thock in a plastic case

[uncut musk]

only a few more days till I get to waste my life away doing the switch tape mod

[fresh ridge]

so i have to trie as many things to even the metal sound out

[sharp yew]

i have a feeling jades will convert people to clack

[median spade]

I joined hobby for just sound so I"ll add my side lol

60he was for gaming of course tho

[fresh ridge]

yea! thats for sure the biggest reason, a little touch ahead of your opponent

[fluid ravine]

I have the wooting cus i have it

[harsh dove]

Tbh I’d just say use case foam and PCB foam

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

But I’m using zero foam in my salvation rn

No case foam

[fluid ravine]

hi CAM

[harsh dove]

No PCB foam

And I don’t have any metal ping imo

[fluid ravine]

premium

[median spade]

anyone know where to get ae black alu plate

[median spade]

brass weight and mounting system showing the benefits

wish salvation wasn't so blocky looking as would buy it right now lmao

[harsh dove]

I like the blocky look lol

Damn all Fjell colors sold out except Black, Purple, Silver, Unfinished

Lame

[fluid ravine]

same

i like the 5 degree and salv case design

my type

[sharp yew]

e white klippet isn't sold out

😺

[median spade]

yep been talkign about it all day I"m getting a black fjell

I"m boring tho

[tame vessel]

Huh, are there any vendors that sell 60% plastic cases for the wooting? I was looking through the compatibility chart and it seems like the kdb one is out of production and the ADK64 is 3d printed?

[uncut musk]

you can find like super cheap plastic ones i think

[agile grove]

prolly be hard to find a high quality case made of plastic

the stock plastic case is nice I've heard

you could just stick with that

[tame vessel]

True, I was just hoping to find something that looked a bit better/different colour

[agile grove]

you could paint it if you wanna go through with that

[harsh dove]

I feel like if I get black I just have too much black cases

[stray tiger]

I dont think I have a single black case lol

[median spade]

Yeah I always had the issue of never buying black cases even though my fave is black with wob

[harsh dove]

lol that’s why I feel like I can’t just get a black Fjell

[shell geode]

My GMK Mecha-01s just came in, this is my first GMK set ever. For me, I really dig the grainy texture of the keycaps and hope it never shines

[harsh dove]

It will shine

[median spade]

Well I have some sad news for you lol

[stray tiger]

Looks amazing but it will shine. Embrace it

[shell geode]

[harsh dove]

lol

[median spade]

Depending on how your fingers/oil is it wlil shine and be smooth

[harsh dove]

Wash your hands a lot

Keep keeb clean

But it will shine

[shell geode]

Okay I will try, I already do, but I will up it

Maybe not rest my fingers on the keycaps?

[harsh dove]

Just when you get home from work or whatever, wipe down keeb/mouse mat with micro fiber and wash hands and forearms

That’s what I do anyway

[stray tiger]

If youre stressing about it now, then dont bother typing on them. If you embrace it now you'll love and enjoy them

[harsh dove]

^^

Otherwise keep that keeb on a shelf or put those keycaps back in the box

[shell geode]

Okay, I can't not type on them, they feel so good

I will accept my fate

[glass mirage]

anyone know where i can get ISO keycaps?

[spiral canyon]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[glass mirage]

thx
!

[stray tiger]

IF anyone wants to play around with a nice inexpensive non-HE bopard, check out CannonKeys sale that just dropped - https://cannonkeys.com/products/mystery-bakeneko

Mysterk Bakeneko, with mystery keycap set and mystery switch set for $89

[idle pier]

yo guys, currently have the 60HE+ module in an alumaze case, poron foam in between plate and pcb + 1 layer of foam at the bottom of the case with L45s and PBT wooting keycaps
i'm trying to improve the sound a little, I find it kinda chattery especially on the edges, the letters on the middle are kinda fine but could be improved on as well i feel like.

anyone got recommendations on how to improve everything for cheap, to get some thock? i'm in europe and I could not find the jades on a local website, taxes will probably be horrible if i order from the US. how do they compare to the raptors?
also I put the two standoffs on the bottom of the case, does this make any difference at all feel and soundwise? thanks for your time i'm really new at this

[stray tiger]

To fix the uneven sound / dead sound around the mount points you can try burger mounting or it gummy/friction mounting it. Raptors are fine if you swap the stems with the ones in your lekkers. You can also try removing the foam between the PCB and plate. Check here for more info - https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[tender rain]

Should I use the included switch film in tofu60 redux for wooting 60he if I want a more thocky sound? I'm also using module60he foam, I just don't want to mess up any of the actuation things

[agile grove]

@stray tiger does gummy o-ring friction mount work without the foam switch pad?

[stray tiger]

Sure, without or without the pad between the PCB and plate doesnt make a difference. In fact without the foam removes the issue of the foam getting squished a little on the corners when you remove the corner switches. If youre using a module youll need to swap out the screw-in stabs though

[stray tiger]

Switch films arent worth your time/effort with the lekkers

[agile grove]

ye I already have tx ap stabs. what are the advantages of no foam inbetween?

[stray tiger]

I have been preferring the sound with nop foam or silicone in between but thats super personal preference.

[agile grove]

gotcha. what does it change sound wise?

[stray tiger]

I like the little bit of hollowness it added.

[agile grove]

what is your current config

[fluid ravine]

for $60!?!

[thick mural]

just lekkers

original first batch l60s and new batch l45s

[idle pier]

thanks for taking the time to answer! my bad for not seeing the faq. tbh i dont feel like opening any switches, especially seeing the potential issues with the raptor - i think i'd better wait for the jades to be somewhat available here

just checked some videos about the different mount types - looks like burger mounting is the more accessible way to do what i wanna achieve. I'll give that a shot when i got some free time on my hands, thanks again for the useful infos

[stray tiger]

Np and good luck.

[median spade]

Time to get you some jades

[stray tiger]

Yeah pretty good learning board for sure. And the GMK Fuji set is $60 each if you buy 2 sets

[fluid ravine]

frik now you making me want to buy this board if i ever do

[median spade]

Bakeneko for $60 is really good

[harsh dove]

https://cannonkeys.com/cdn/shop/files/CK042222-86-Edit.jpg?v=1706299687

The image at the end bothers me

[fluid ravine]

fr

[harsh dove]

Looks so unfinished

[median spade]

The zinc weight kind of booty too

It’s a good idea but makes it more pingy unlike brass weight

[harsh dove]

I mainly have an issue with how the coating looks

[stray tiger]

@tawdry tree they sent me the box pinks instead of the tactile browns but they do not work with the 60HE. They do fit but I'm guessing the magnetic strength isn't enough to register of the polarity is reversed. The bottom magnetic flux of the pinks is 2000gs and I assume its the same for the rest.

[median spade]

yeee the aluminum cast ones leave a bit to be desired since they're just painted essentially

[harsh dove]

Yeah it seems like a good deal to have some fun but I don’t really want a case that looks like that lol

[static tendon]

Exciting to see shipments will soon be on their way

[harsh dove]

My pallet specifically will get there on the 25th and my module specifically will be shipped on the 28th

[static tendon]

I wonder how long it typically takes to ship to US (I also have expedited shipping). If I were to guess, I’d think like 4 days total meaning I’d get my module around Feb 2nd- Feb 5th or 6th (business days)

[stray tiger]

We are all on the same shipment and yeah I expect they will start showing up next week.

[uncut musk]

Hopefully it doesn’t slip to Tuesday but it won’t make a huge difference

[static tendon]

Yeah hopefully 🤞

[uncut musk]

I’d imagine once they get shipped out it will probably take like. 3 or 4 days tbh

So probably end of next week for a decent amount of people

Yeah

[harsh dove]

My black pc plate is shipped

[static tendon]

It’s gonna be weird switching from reduced travel Cherry Mx silvers to a full travel 4mm switch again. Wonder how I’ll adjust

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ric-flair-woo-rich-man-gif-25119424

[uncut musk]

Im ready for the rapid trigger

[sharp yew]

poggies

[thick mural]

got raptors so should be good

[fluid ravine]

[uncut musk]

trying to decide if i like coiled or straight cables more

[static tendon]

I’ve used both for over 2 years and I gotta say straight cable takes the top. Much easier to move the keyboard around and not have to constantly re-adjust the coiled cable. Plus straight cables usually cost a lot less

I still love coiled cables. They look amazing, but they’re way more impractical

[uncut musk]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[tame vessel]

Yeah, the whole having to adjust the coiled cable's position in relation to my keyboard ot keep it parrallel would bug me personally. I wouldn't be able to look at it and not do that

[static tendon]

Yeah I was always re-adjusting it. I ended up getting an aviator straight cable and never switched back. Paid far less too

[stray tiger]

The Wooting cables allow you to choose either so thats a safe bet.

Me personally, I prefer straight

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fogf_q5w3u4 @quiet bay

[uncut musk]

I was looking at cable mods pro straight cables, I was thinking about the wooting cables just dont entirely like any of the 4 colors they currently have, I know someone was saying that more color varients would be coming out tho at some point

[stray tiger]

Yes quite a few new colors coming

[quiet bay]

I dont have polyfill ._.

[uncut musk]

is there a time frame for them or is it still up in the air

[stray tiger]

I dont have a specific time but I "think" they said the cables were ready, just needed to get them in the warehouse. Dont quote me on that but i think thats what I heard

[uncut musk]

Okie sounds good, Ill just wait then and see what colors they release

[median spade]

I caved and the fjell shall be here whenever

Anyone want a silver frog wk

[uncut musk]

wtf that

[median spade]

This but WK

[uncut musk]

I kinda fuck with things that replace where the windows key would be

[idle pier]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005006385203531.html?src=google&aff_fcid=c69d064f179348cb962198dabb8e7ae5-1706314873510-06373-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=c69d064f179348cb962198dabb8e7ae5-1706314873510-06373-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=171fc95476904e34a4ba2290e3815295&afSmartRedirect=y you guys think this is legit?

[median spade]

It’s why I wish 60he had 7u option

I love WKL

Or 7u bottom row

[harsh dove]

Yes

[median spade]

Yes

[uncut musk]

idk but someone reviewed it and said they got their shit

[median spade]

But are you US?

Store in US has them now

[idle pier]

i'm french

[median spade]

Ah

[idle pier]

thats why i dont wanna order on gateron website

i ordered multiple times from ali, never had an issue ever

[uncut musk]

Trying to find a US seller that has the raptors

[median spade]

Yeah that link is good

[median spade]

Divinikey

[idle pier]

thank you very much guysss

[median spade]

They outta stock tho I think

@uncut musk https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raptor-he-switches

I lied

[fluid ravine]

what set

[median spade]

Wym

[fluid ravine]

keycaps

[median spade]

Oh in that image?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[median spade]

GMK Muted

[fluid ravine]

i like that

ofc Gmk 😭

[median spade]

Actually GMK Mr sleeves to be specific

[idle pier]

i'm kinda surprised we still didnt get a review from a big youtuber like badseedtech or optimum on the jades or raptor, those guys are suckers for custom mods

[median spade]

Well no one stocked them but geon for raptors till now and gateron only for jades

[fluid ravine]

well im guessing they're not gonna make a vid abt 2 switches

or they can make a short

that'd be fine

[median spade]

They both don’t care about reviewers lol

So it would be if they buy them

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[median spade]

Jades tomorrow finally

Hype

[idle pier]

idk sounds like ez money to make

[fluid ravine]

Jades never finally

[median spade]

Can’t wait for my wooting to finally sound as close to proper keyboard

No more rattle sound

[harsh dove]

I’m not big YouTuber sadly but I have videos comparing both

[median spade]

I have good mic and am YouTuber technically so I’ll do it for the people

[uncut musk]

Wow raptors are actually pretty cheap compared to the jades

[median spade]

Indeed

[halcyon obsidian]

na module waiting room

[sharp yew]

monday

[idle pier]

im trying to find your yt as we speak

[uncut musk]

Countdown to monday

[median spade]

I should have recorded when I did L60, raptors, and then l60 raptor stem

[idle pier]

and now switching to the jades? damn bro

[median spade]

Yeah

Chasing perfection the life of a keyboard hobbyist

Should have seen when I was into the Mx side and not HE now

[idle pier]

xddd HE keeping you away from buying too much stuff

[median spade]

That and I found my sound profile/builds so stopped caring about Mx stuff

[idle pier]

this is my third keyboard and first ever custom, and i'm super happy about it although i cant get used to qwerty for now so i'm just using azerty with qwerty keycaps lmao

[idle pier]

yeah ig once you find your endgame there isnt much point building thousands of keyboards

[median spade]

Stop while you’re ahead is all I will say

[uncut musk]

This will be my first time using an aluminum case, have always had meh plastic cases

[median spade]

Yeah I think I used like around 125 keyboards or take

Customs that is

[idle pier]

thats fucking insane lmao

[median spade]

Yeah it was p bad lmao

Sold 11 boards I had in closet since start of 2022 couple weeks ago finally

[static tendon]

When re-selling them, did they lose a lot of value or did they typically retain the value originally spent on the boards?

Always wondered how well customs sell

[median spade]

Those ones lost a lot

[static tendon]

Like some GMK caps sell for more than they were purchased for

[median spade]

Hobby has died down

But all the others before that were mostly at profit

[static tendon]

Gotcha, bummer 🥲

[median spade]

I’m still net positive overall but yeah

[static tendon]

What typically sold the best? Layout wise, maybe caps or switches

[median spade]

Anything at the time

If it was a keyboard it would sell in 2 seconds unironically

[static tendon]

Haha that's awesome

[median spade]

People just wanted anything keyboard

[static tendon]

I feel like the hype is increasing here no? Or more customs are just more available so people don't purchase them second hand anymore?

[median spade]

People’s buying power has crashed a lot since 2020-2021

So market still kind of dead

Since economy is bad in most places

[static tendon]

Yeah that makes a lot sense actually. Covid, high amounts of attention to things people can upgrade from home, keyboards were boomin. Makes sense

[median spade]

Mmhmm

The infamous taeha types tfue collab too

[static tendon]

Everything is messed up now. Prices are insane everywhere even on snacks I used to always buy

Yeah I used to watch Taeha Types a lot in the past

[stray tiger]

AI so smart

[uncut musk]

Lmao how they miss the mosue up sm

[stray tiger]

they have assured me there is no mouse in the photo

[uncut musk]

ai trying to gaslight you

LMAO

[stray tiger]

lol

I think I need to start over

[uncut musk]

wtf

LMAO

[sharp yew]

ok now bruteforce it to show a real keyboard

[harsh dove]

I haven't uploaded them to YT but I've tested L60 with Switch Tape Mod, Stock Raptors, Frankenswitch Raptors, Handlubed Raptors, Stock Jades, and Handlubed Jades

[sharp yew]

ai must've been fed a tonnnnnnn of cheap chinese gaming peripherals

[idle pier]

bro is a walking encyclopedia for wooting

[harsh dove]

try saying "Computer Mice"

It might think of mouse as an actual mouse

🐭

In which case, the AI is correct

[harsh dove]

There are no mice in your photo

mlmfaooo

Okay forget everything I said

[uncut musk]

what are you using for this

[stray tiger]

haha yeah its fucked. Ive got to start over

dall-e 3 for chatgpt 4

[harsh dove]

KS20u's soon

[stray tiger]

I got the outemu magnetic switches today and they do not work. I believe its a polarity issue.

[harsh dove]

Oh really?

Interesting

[stray tiger]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[idle pier]

ok i fell for it just ordered the jades 🫡

[stray tiger]

We got em boys!

[harsh dove]

You think they swapped the magnet poles around?

i.e. Wooting HE Sense is North Pole and the Lekker stem is South Pole

for example

[stray tiger]

Yes, I believe its similar to the KS-37B's and the magnets are reversed. I say that because the Gateron HE 2.0 switches have an initial magnetic flux of 102±15Gs with a bottom flux of 905±80Gs. The Jades are similar at initial flux of 102±15Gs and bottom-out flux of 800±80Gs. These outemus are initial of 80Gs but bottom out is 2000Gs. So either the sensor gets overwhelmed really really fast (so fast that it doesnt even register at .1mm) or the polarity is reversed.

[harsh dove]

wow 2000g

[stray tiger]

Crazy considering the magnet is 1/2 the size (I know that doesnt mean anything)

[harsh dove]

I wonder if they have a dead zone kinda like the Razer Huntsman did

at least I think it was the Razer

mightve been the highground

There's like a 0.5mm gap where the switch won't register at all

[stray tiger]

I tried the full actuation range, tried resetting the board, but even with touch effect turned on nothing would even begin to register

[harsh dove]

Hmm

Does the magnet even stick to the PCB?

or take the lekker stem and 37b stem and see if they stick together

lol

Then you'll know if its reversed or not

[stray tiger]

Someone else in our wooting support channel suggested putting the switch on the backside of the PCB and testing. I might play around this weekend

[harsh dove]

That'd be really interesting to see lol

[median spade]

@fluid ravine Put my L60s in my frog mini again and I think you'll appreciate this spacebar

If only alphas were as good as spacebar

[harsh dove]

holy

I forgot how chattery L60s were

Wow

Thanks for reminding me

[static tendon]

Got a sound test of your board?

[harsh dove]

Yeah but I kinda wanna make a new one since I've tuned my stabs compared to the most recent vid I have

but I'll share anyway

[static tendon]

Looking forward to hearing it

[harsh dove]

Cheers

[static tendon]

Sounds like the Corsair K60 keyboard

[harsh dove]

LOL

It actually kinda does

[static tendon]

But this isn't your Salvation keyboard?

[static tendon]

Yeah sounds a lot less chattery

[median spade]

absolute shite they re

spacebar is chilling tho

[harsh dove]

Nice

[static tendon]

Yeah your spacebar does sound great

[fluid ravine]

holy cow-

that space bar is quite nice

the chatter not too bad im not gonna lie

[median spade]

I just had the most wild thing in all my times of my keyboard hobby days

[fluid ravine]

frog mini does make it up

[median spade]

i swapped my usb cable and now the spcebar is worse

[paper bloom]

Got a question for the tofu60 redux is the space bar screw required or nah

[static tendon]

What gives it that sound? Just the frog mini and L60s? Sure caps come into play but the main reason for that sound?

[paper bloom]

I tried to screw it in with my module

[harsh dove]

what

[fluid ravine]

which one is this?

[harsh dove]

Salvation, Jades, No Case Foam, No PCB Foam, Friction Mount 40A

Yes I test unorthodox things in my Salvation

Like Case Foam and Gummy Mount

Things you normally wouldn't do in a Salvation

[median spade]

lol check this out

[harsh dove]

I like the way my spacebar sounds in this recording tho

[median spade]

I have never seen a usb cable do this before

[sharp yew]

you burger mount your salvation yet?

[harsh dove]

No

[median spade]

first one is my custom white cable, and second one is my black amazon cable

first time for everything after using so many keyboards that's great

[fluid ravine]

WTF

[median spade]

literally baffled right now

[sharp yew]

that actually seems like the next plausible thing, assuming it actually does its thing on the two standoffs

[harsh dove]

Sounds kinda the same to me

[sharp yew]

might have to use longer screws

[harsh dove]

I have tons

[sharp yew]

yeah just marginally longer will do

[harsh dove]

Yeah m2x5mm

[median spade]

on the second one you should hear more hollowness and thud

its surreal irl lol

found the issue in just that cable i was using the connection is too wide and somehow putting pressure on the assembly

never seen this before that was wild

[harsh dove]

Probably more noticeable IRL

or you're smokin sumthin

[median spade]

it like goes from nice and muted/poppy spacebar

[harsh dove]

Actually this would make a lot of sense

[median spade]

till i can hear case reverb and hollow

but yeah fixed it

[harsh dove]

If the cable was applying more or less pressure on the PCB and somewhat shifting it inside the case

Could def change the sound slightly

[median spade]

probs was the pom plate being forced up from what i can tell

as the amazon cable connection was super tight

l60 still rattly dont' you worry tho

[harsh dove]

In fairness, the Jades have some chatter but it's very minor imo

[fluid ravine]

fk

[harsh dove]

Sounds a lot more like a custom board with them

imo

[fluid ravine]

good

guess thats why gewalt still did switch tape mod with it

[median spade]

jades tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

1 layer

[harsh dove]

Yeah and if anyone else does it, I'd recommend only 1 layer

[median spade]

switch tape mod

what is that

[harsh dove]

A mod that fixes Lekkers somewhat

But can be used on other switches too

[median spade]

what's the process

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[median spade]

that's great

but oh hell nah on doing that

[harsh dove]

Lol

[median spade]

i've lubed 10000+ switches in my time of keyboards

[harsh dove]

Time consuming af

[median spade]

but that is just another level man

[harsh dove]

Yeah a few of us did that to our Lekkers

[median spade]

and was it actually worth it?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[median spade]

Whatever jades here tomorrow

[harsh dove]

Just have to break them in after

[static tendon]

@median spade what did you add to the spacebar to get that sound?

[harsh dove]

Not as good as Jades or Raptors tho imo

[static tendon]

I have some interesting builds with foam into their spacebar and it made it pop more

[median spade]

it's just a pom plate with l60 hand lubed in frog mini

[harsh dove]

Although I personally felt like Switch Tape Modded Lekkers sounded almost similar to Stock Raptors

[median spade]

the keyboard is doing a lot of work

[static tendon]

Where did you even get the POM plate?

[median spade]

I had it custom made from hypekeyboards.ca

he has a file for frog mini wooting

[static tendon]

Hmm that would make sense. POM usually has this poppy sound to it. I think POM is my favorite plate material

[median spade]

oh yea btw i usedl60 stem in raptor housing for 3 weeks, and then switched them both back now

raptors are fcked to say the least

they sound very rattly or chatter as you would say

completely ruined them

[static tendon]

But your other keys don't pop like the spacebar. I wonder why the spacebar had such a large effect. Obviosuly it uses a larger key but it did make a large difference

[median spade]

tx stabs are just like that even on my custom mx stuff

very muted on mods other than spacebar in my experience

[static tendon]

Interesting, i'd be spamming that space bar in game just for the sound

[harsh dove]

Yeah I tried Raptors for a bit and stem swapped and wasn't really feelin them as much as the Jades

[static tendon]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4r-Join1Hc/?igsh=azBmOTZkZ3M5c2g0 this is by no means a wooting keyboard but it also uses POM. Makes this poppy sound

kriscables

And another video by @koenromers with the latest cable made for him.
I like the Sirius' look and sound, what do you think ?
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Keyboard: Sirius (with weight)
PCB: Plain60-C
Plate: POM
Sound dampening: 2mm neoprene foam
Switches: Gateron Yellow (clear Tealios housing, 60g SPRiT springs)
Lube: Krytox 205g0 (springs with Krytox 106)
Stabilisers: GMK...

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[median spade]

I like the combo better but now my jades are ruined

raptors*

[harsh dove]

Yeah I didn't like the combo personally

[median spade]

heads up any lurker or people searching this do not do it

[harsh dove]

felt too tight for me

[median spade]

l60 stem in raptor after 3 weeks will ruin your raptors

[harsh dove]

Really?

How so

[median spade]

Oh that's what I'm saying

They are more rattly and loose then before

they sound worse than my lekkers now

[harsh dove]

Wtf lol

[median spade]

I used them for 3 weeks and they had broken in nicely

but i was like lets swap back to normal as bored

now they are super rattly it sucks

[harsh dove]

That's odd

[median spade]

I think it's just because the l60 stem was so tight and probably the friction made tolerances more loose

[harsh dove]

tbf, Calder has tested Raptors and he felt that they were very similar to Lekkers

[median spade]

outside the nylon top wouldn't be surprised tbh

can't imagine them being anything other than gateron

[harsh dove]

yeah, I don't remember his exact words but he felt that the housing wobble, and sound, etc were very similar to Lekkers

[median spade]

alright i'll go swap them back for the people brb

[harsh dove]

Found it

but he also felt like it added Friction with the stem swap, which I did not like the feel of

[median spade]

Yeah friction was not there for me

But spring felt “heavier”

[stray tiger]

Ill be doing the same in a week or so and then sending them to a local friend to pop on a break-in machine for me

[median spade]

Mine were hand lubed tho

[harsh dove]

yeah I lubed mine as well

still felt tight

[static tendon]

Fancy, how long do you leave it in the machine

[stray tiger]

Just waiting for the new batch of l45's to arrive next week

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'm getting 45s with the module, not that I'll use them but I'll mess with them

[median spade]

Can’t wait for less rattle tomorrow with jades

[stray tiger]

I think its a matter of how many actuations you want

[static tendon]

New batch? Like a V2? I purchased the L45's as well

[stray tiger]

New to me, not new to wooting

[static tendon]

That's awesome, I wonder how much of a difference that would actually make to break it in. I gotta be honest I feel like I wouldn't notice it

[median spade]

We need cherry to make a mc black HE switch asap

[static tendon]

I've been using some switches for years and years on end and maybe it's cause I use so often I don't feel they're smoother or something

[harsh dove]

A broken-in switch is pretty noticeable to me

[static tendon]

I've heard some people mention this in the custom keyboard community but personally haven't noticed it

[harsh dove]

in terms of trying to get a consistent sound and feel across your board

If you listen to vids with freshly installed switches, they usually don't sound consistent

[median spade]

My raptors hand lubed and my lekkers too but man lekkers are more muted

[stray tiger]

A lot of companies will sell switches broken in with a certain number of actuations.

[median spade]

SD raptors and FG lekker

[static tendon]

Interesting, news to me

[harsh dove]

Yeah to me, Raptors are more clacky than Lekkers

[blissful sluice]

wouldn't 'breaking in' switches wear down contact points and increase wobble

[static tendon]

Anyone who uses GMK caps here, if I wipe down my GMK caps will it make them shine faster over time? I typically wipe my keyboard down daily

[median spade]

You would need to polish them

Oils from hand is what makes them shine

[stray tiger]

Most modern switches are rated for like 50 million actuations so I dont think there is a worry there

[harsh dove]

Wipe down with what?

[harsh dove]

and HE switch are even more

around 100 million

[blissful sluice]

i didn't say failure, im just talking about rubbing of the switch and wearing down the stems

or any contact/friction surface

[stray tiger]

Thats what Im hoping will happen if the lekker stems are tight in the raptor housings. Want to break them in a bit

[harsh dove]

I think that would be the case if there was zero lube , I'm sure friction would wear down the plastics over time

But with lube, I don't see that happening

[blissful sluice]

okay, yeah - i personally have never had wobble in a 'real' mechanical keyboard exist to a degree that i was bothered by it or noticed it

[sharp yew]

just dont rub your caps down with ultra proof rubbing alcohol or something

[blissful sluice]

i was just thinking through the idea of plastic rubbing against plastic for 100,000 actuations

[stray tiger]

Most people dont

[sharp yew]

if you care about shine so much take some nice pictures of your keyboard now

[harsh dove]

Or just don't buy GMK

[sharp yew]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-dreaditrunfromit-infinitywar-destinyarrivesallthesame-barexam-gif-12210891

[harsh dove]

Well, not necessarily GMK, just don't get ABS if you are worried about shine

[static tendon]

Just a lightly damp microfiber rag with water

[static tendon]

GMK is far too popular, gonna give it a good shot and try it out. But I have seen slimy looking ABS GMK caps

[harsh dove]

That's fine

[harsh dove]

that's because their owners are slimy

be a clean person and you won't have that as much

[static tendon]

Yeah I get that, but GMK has this sound signature I want to try for myself. If I really don't like the shine I'll maaaaybe switch out of it

[harsh dove]

Yeah its gonna happen regardless

[stray tiger]

When they start to really shine is when they start to feel really good

[harsh dove]

Shine increases Gamer Grip

[blissful sluice]

exposure to the pH of the oils in your skin over time does it, you can't avoid it by cleaning it, even daily :\

[static tendon]

Hmm I see, I'll just have to see as some time goes on

[static tendon]

Sounds good, I was just worried if I wipe it down daily with some microfiber rag and water it would cause the shine to occur faster

[harsh dove]

My spacebar and WASD already have a slight sheen to them

Harder to see it on white keycaps tho

[blissful sluice]

the shiny part of used abs keys is more grippy so i actually think its a better outcome

relative to the brand new state of them, anyway

game in a dark cave, shine problem solved

😉

[static tendon]

My room is always well lit 🥲

[harsh dove]

exactly

My computer room has black out curtains

[static tendon]

Same but I do have a lot of RGB lights around, I keep it fairly dim but there's always some lighting

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have some background lighting for my monitor

just to reduce eye strain

[static tendon]

This is what I'm working with

[harsh dove]

Yeah i've seen your setup

[median spade]

Shine is a feature

[harsh dove]

Whats in the mini fridge tho

[static tendon]

Haha a bunch of rockstar/capri suns and sometimes soda here and there

[blissful sluice]

pretty setup

[median spade]

Gfuel and cocaine

[static tendon]

Oh yeah that too

[blissful sluice]

ive got bang energy and ashoc in my mini fridge

[static tendon]

Gotta snort some g fuel before each gaming sesh

Get's me going

[harsh dove]

I just have water and ginger ale

[static tendon]

Good choice, avoiding caffine

If I could I would choose non caffeine drinks every time but most the drinks I enjoy just have caffeine in it

Like if non caffinated redbull was made, it would be my go to drink

[harsh dove]

Lol yeah I cut out energy drinks and soda several years ago, no health issues or anything, just tryna be healtier

You can count Ginger Ale as soda tho ig

[fluid ravine]

give me sum

[quiet bay]

that pc is pretty sexy

[static tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-host-hands-giving-transfer-gif-7315036

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

pc specs? i forgot

amazing setup

sheeesh

[static tendon]

2070 Super, Ryzen 5600x, 32gb of ram, 9 asiahorse fans, strimer cables, 360mm deep cool castle cooler AIO, MSI tomahawk x570 motherboard

My next build will likely be in a small form factor build and I plan to mount it under my desk to give me a super clean and minimal look

[sharp yew]

https://tenor.com/view/vision-beautiful-but-wise-just-saying-gif-20729707

christ im sorry if anyones on mobile data

thats a high quality ass gif

[median spade]

Okay here are L60 and then raptors

[harsh dove]

See

Lekkers more Thock

[median spade]

Then L60 stem in Raptors

[harsh dove]

Raptors more Clack

but really

the sound is almost the same

[static tendon]

L60's sound deeper

[harsh dove]

yeah Lekkers are deeper

[median spade]

L60 are indeed deeper

[harsh dove]

It's like the same sound with a different pitch

whereas Jades are an actual different sound

[median spade]

jades tomorrow lets go

[fluid ravine]

i swear lekkers do sound shit but idk why but i feel like the frog mini is saving the living hell out of it

[median spade]

frog mini is indeed carrying

and my room setup

[fluid ravine]

cus i dont hate any of these in a way

[median spade]

my room setup makes everything very muted and such

[static tendon]

Yeah I'm curious on how the Jades compare to this sound test

[median spade]

I shall let you know tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

yayyy

[static tendon]

Please do

[median spade]

also i think it was jsut the case i was using prior to this frog mini for a bit

these raptors sound fine again

tonights biggest discovery was the cable making my spacebar sound worse i shall never forget it

[sharp yew]

imagine how tofu users feel

with that little ass port

[median spade]

yeah I think the cable probably was messing up my tofu too oh well

not going to rebuild again lmao

This was my tofu with raptor and pc plate

[harsh dove]

Salvation port

[median spade]

Frogs

[sharp yew]

is that a lamzu

https://tenor.com/view/korone-detective-investigation-magnifying-glass-magnifier-gif-22139952

[median spade]

Yeah it's a maya

[fluid ravine]

Gh60 tofu v1 clone

[median spade]

I have maya and sora 4k on my desk rn

op1 8k on monday

[fluid ravine]

Raised bc I have gummy mount and poly fill

[sharp yew]

im about to just take a power tool to that tofu usb port

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[median spade]

I didn't think the port on my tofu was that bad tbh

tofu redux right?

[sharp yew]

for tray mount its probably fine

just that my little friction mount looked horrid

because of the port the front of the pcb gets angled up and I hate it

[median spade]

ohhhh yeah that would do it

[harsh dove]

I feel like 8K is so unnecessary based on the information and test I’ve seen on it

Even 4K seems overkill

As humans, feel like 2k is all we need

[fluid ravine]

its like slanted upward for you?

my polyfill feels dry af

[median spade]

8k is a bit overkill but I do enjoy 4k myself

i also play on a 360hz monitor tho

[static tendon]

Its dated now that 540hz monitors released 😢

[median spade]

the 540hz was really good but I wouldn't say the 360hz stuff is outdated haha

Best I've seen for motion clarity so far tho for sure

[harsh dove]

Fuck all them hertz

Not needed

OLED ftw

[median spade]

well the oled 360hz stuff is out

and they are

480hz oled out later this year too

[stray tiger]

I game at 240 not sure what more would feel like

[static tendon]

Yeah that would be nice oled and high refresh rates

[harsh dove]

It’s very minimal after 240

I’ve tested a bunch of monitors

[static tendon]

compared to 360 almost nothing. a pinch smoother

[harsh dove]

144 to 240 is nice

[median spade]

I currently have a aw3423dw for single aplayer stuff and then 360hz for competitive

[harsh dove]

Anything after that is barely noticeable to human eye

[median spade]

all depends on response times of the monitor

as 540hz from 240hz is very clear and makes 240hz look "blurry"

[static tendon]

I hear 360hz to 540hz is more noticable but I have no idea. Never tried it. Not yet

[median spade]

its about doubling really for our eyes to notice

60 to 120 to 240 to 480

[static tendon]

At least the 1080p gaming monitors

[median spade]

1ms is a lie sadly from manufacturers

only oled really gets close to 1ms

[harsh dove]

Yep

Most monitors are actually around 3-5ms

[stray tiger]

I'm playing CS2 if you want to join but you guys are probably all Val player's

[harsh dove]

Tarkov player

[fluid ravine]

[untold wigeon]

Want a 360hz oled but don't want to sell my kidney

[harsh dove]

Honestly 240hz OLED is fine imo

Just don’t get old OLEDs

Get 3rd gen

[static tendon]

I'm playing skyrim rn tho

[median spade]

This was the 540hz for example

[static tendon]

Skyrim has been fun. Making the most OP build possible

Without cheating^

[fluid ravine]

i tried playing CS2 Dm last night

[harsh dove]

This doesn’t only come down to Hz tho

[fluid ravine]

i liked it but im trying to figure out the settings and everything

[sharp yew]

quake

[harsh dove]

Also depends on panel and manufacturer

[fluid ravine]

other than that enjoyed it tho

[sharp yew]

it is.

[sharp yew]

what do you consider cheating i wonder

[static tendon]

Explioting potions

[sharp yew]

yeah...

though making a spoon super powerful is funny

[static tendon]

I see it all the time. You're just invincible

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/ZlLb73RL5Ug?si=XFf9iV18rFW-oUas

[stray tiger]

It's the only fps I play usually

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/nqa7QVwfu7s?si=AtVocfXby4Gghh-5

https://youtu.be/UonGoqrAdMA?si=YJZCM1n4472g9ymK

K thats all

[sharp yew]

rapid trigger is probably the only thing ive benefitted from

[median spade]

in this case it's hz and the fact the response times are within 90% compliance

[sharp yew]

refresh rate and polling rate have alwaaaays been so marginal to me

[harsh dove]

They are to most

Only real competitive gamers are going to notice the small differences and even then, half the time it’s placebo

[median spade]

well persistance blur is still persistance blur

it's why blurbusters.com is a thing

https://blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/motion_blur_from_persistence.png.webp

[sharp yew]

wait badseed mentioned quake champions

[median spade]

yeah also need to have the fps to match the refresh rate to get the benefits too

otherwise it's wasted

well not wasted just not as beneficial

[harsh dove]

Hence why 540hz is overkill unless you have a 4090 and are an esports player

[median spade]

13900k/4090 gang

I rock oled for single player stuff, and then my 360hz for competitive titles

[sharp yew]

i have to wonder how many people who chop their mice up are actually good at any competitive game

[harsh dove]

2025 - 5090

[static tendon]

Yeah best of both worlds this way

[median spade]

indeed

[harsh dove]

I just use OLED for everything

[static tendon]

What games/productivity work do you use the monitors for?

[median spade]

Yeah my OLED is the aw3423dw and im not huge fan of ultrawide for my fps stuff

[harsh dove]

Tarkov and Real Estate Auctions

[static tendon]

Sounds like fun. Yeah OLED higher resolution sounds like the way to go

[median spade]

was thinking about geting the 1440p 360hz one that launched, but I want 27 inch 4k 240hz

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mean I just love OLED, I’m not tryna deter your guys from buying whatever you want lol , I know 540hz is good but just dont feed into marketing and always do research on your products

[static tendon]

If I were to choose between these, I'd go for the 4k 240hz. 360 is seriously not much of a difference from my daily usage so far

[median spade]

Yeah I still like 360hz for less tearing, mousefeel, etc but I want to have a one monitor soution for my what i do and 4k would do that

[harsh dove]

I’m waiting for more new OLEDs to drop

[median spade]

and the 32inch one that came out too big

[static tendon]

Of course, research is #1 when purchasing these products along with deals 😆

[harsh dove]

Preferably QD-OLEDs with glossy coating and 240hz+

[median spade]

yes

not woLed

[harsh dove]

Nope

They playing catch up

Was looking at the recent ASUS one

But after researching I’ll pass

[median spade]

never asus

ASUS monitors in general are always higher priced and worse tuning then competitors

[harsh dove]

Tbf ASUS has pretty good color accuracy out of the box in my experience and test I’ve seen

This is the color test of the recent ASUS OLED

Which is really good tbh

Slightly warmer on the Kelvin but Optimum said it wasn’t noticeable

[static tendon]

Now that's something I don't quite understand. The color accuracy of monitors. I need to dig into that more

[harsh dove]

If you do any photography, videography, graphic design, etc then its important , less so for gaming unless you just care about colors looking as the artist/devs intended

You can fine tune monitors color settings but need a special device that cost about $300 or copy someones settings off reddit or something

[sharp yew]

I think I just got used to how my msi monitor looked because it was so warm compared to anything else

[harsh dove]

Most monitors are colder out of box, so warmer is usually good or at least usually closer to accurate color

[sharp yew]

that color calibrating device was one of the things i looked into

its starting to show its age anyway i just need a new monitor

[harsh dove]

Yeah i wouldn't really get one unless you make videos and do test or you have a job that requires the color accuracy , like photography etc

Most monitors you can just turn up the warm level by like 1 and use sRGB mode

that's usually the most color accurate for a lot of monitors

[sharp yew]

I actually bought the monitor several years ago because I was sick of how rdr2 looked at 1080p

[static tendon]

Yeah exactly, which it's nothing of what I do at least not yet. Maybe one day down the line

[sharp yew]

this was also when dlss was a big thing so it was interesting times

[quick gulch]

maybe it's because you picked it up, but that usb port is sitting so much higher than mine

maybe it's just the photo angle

[void hollow]

odd, modding a stock keyboard with:
tape mod, gummy oring friction mount and polyfill doesnt make a whole lot difference on the sound

and im curious, does the pc plate that came with the he+ module accept plate mounted stabs

[fluid ravine]

yes

[fluid ravine]

what plate?

[void hollow]

stock metal plate

[fluid ravine]

then thats why

[void hollow]

ahh

ok time to advertise buying my pc plate live

[fluid ravine]

Im not a science nurd and i wouldnt really explain this really well but let's just say uh tape mod+steel plate doesnt do anything

i would like to explain it further but thats all i can say for your as of right now
brain not working :P

[void hollow]

yea

i heard it

[fluid ravine]

explain it once and forgot

[void hollow]

i heard how it sounded and i was like it didnt make a jack diff

[fluid ravine]

sounds about right

[void hollow]

welp honestly im satisfied with my fr4 plate

never tried the pc plate tho

[median spade]

Pc softer and lower pitch

[fluid ravine]

i dont remember if its the right word but i think it has to do with resonance

holdup

ah fk

cant find it

[median spade]

Stainless steel just very resonant and sound travels through it fast

[tropic storm]

Ok im asking these because I know nothing about keyboard stabilizers and have paid zero attention to them so far. Can you use different stabilizers in your wooting keyboard and is there a good reason to like ex stock ones are not good. Also is there different types or whatever or will it just work if I get the right length.

[fluid ravine]

Alright ima start answering your last question first. There are three main (theres a bit more out there but we mainly use these three) type of stabilizer mounting when it comes to mechnical keyboards. Plate mount (Clips onto the plate), Screw Ins (Stabilizers that are screwed in from the bottom of the pcb), and Clip ins (Like Screw ins but instead of using screw there are clips that go onto the pcb).
Now to answer your first quetion, yes you can use other stabilizers depending on which Wooting HE board you got. If you have the Wooting "60he", you are only available to Plate mount stabilizers, but if you have the Wooting "60he+" then all three type of stabilizer mounting styles i have listed earlier is compatible with this module.
Lastly, may you elaborate on "Is there a good reason to like ex stock ones are not good." I do not understand if this a question or not but I hope this answers most of your questions.

[tropic storm]

Yes thank you for the answers what I meant by the last thing you mentioned was me asking if the stock ones are good and if its worth it I guess to change them.

Also any plate mount stabs would be fine I assume right

[fluid ravine]

Yes, any stabilizers can sound as good with just lube and grease but if you have further problems I would try out other mods like holee mod, etc and checking if your wires is balance and all that.

[tropic storm]

Ok thanks

[fluid ravine]

But there has been reports with users that have housing wobble for plate mount stabilizers depending on how loose it is on the plate, this can be fixed with tape/bandaid but I won't be explaining the whole thing cus I gtg sleep haha

[fluid ravine]

The stocks ones are perfectly fine, they're pretty great imo

Alr mate I gtg now
Have a good night, I hoped I fill you in with the knowledge you need.

[tropic storm]

Thats nice to know, would you recommend modding them instead of swapping them out?

[fluid ravine]

Well depends

[tropic storm]

Sorry for so many questions

[tropic storm]

Did you for your board

[fluid ravine]

All good
Not a lot tbh but I just wish I had more time to answer

[fluid ravine]

No, I only used lube and grease for my stabs, if you're wondering, I have the TX AP plate mount stabilizers.

I would swap them out if you need it to get replaced or when your wires get really warped and what not.

[tropic storm]

Ok, well thank you well as you said you dont have much time so if you want you can go now 🙂

[fluid ravine]

Thank you ❤

Well have a good night mate

[tropic storm]

u to

[sand plinth]

anyone else experience paint chipping on the tofu60 redux?? especially the e-coating colours

[sullen salmon]

bout to go full ham on my wooting
wooden gh60, polyfill, bandaids sitting underneath stabs on pcb, lubed and fully modded tx ap stabs with lubed jade he switches all with their own respective lubes (spring oil, 205g0, 105g0, xhtbdz), gummy oring mount switch pads for pc and maybe the plate, pom or pc plate depending on what i like more, pbt wob set, switch films both foam and plastic version seeing what sounds better. also have a keeb mat

[sullen salmon]

yup

my ecoating white has chipping so ive contacted support and they are providing me with a new black one however i imagine if a lot of people keep asking for replacements theyll probably refuse to send new ones out

worth a shot i suppose but it seems the ecoating are prone to chipping very easily as im super gentle with my gear

[supple girder]

Looking for some advice: I have the magnetic jade and tofu60 just waiting for my board in the NA-SEA order now. I see an option to choose the OG build instead of the plus, should I go for this? I’m not really a modding enthusiast so I’ll probably just do some simple mods like tapes along with changing switches/cases. Do I need the 60HE+?

[blissful sluice]

if you don't know whether or not you want screw-in, you don't need screw in, as a rule of thumb

buy either of them and youll be fine IMO

[loud zephyr]

if you only need the PCB, choose 60HE+(module)

[sand plinth]

did u have to send ur white one back?? or do u send back after receiving the new one

[sullen salmon]

nope, they let me keep it

[sand plinth]

sheesh wait what did u say if i may ask

cos ima do tha t too probably

[sullen salmon]

preferably just get the 60he+ as its a little cheaper and has the option for screw in stabs. also comes with a pc plate

[sullen salmon]

just said i had scratches on my board n that i dont eat or drink, scratch or put any chemicals near or on my desk. im pretty careful with my stuff so i have no idea how it got damaged.

they were pretty generous just sending a whole new one out to me so it might be a one time off im not sure

[sand plinth]

did u contact them through discord or website

[sullen salmon]

considering that they didnt want me to return it

website/email

[sand plinth]

ohh okk ill just try

okok

tyyy

[sullen salmon]

allg

[tender rain]

The tofu60 redux comes with the switch foam, should I use it or it would be too much foam and result in a more clacky sound?

and do I need to do the tape mod?

[sullen salmon]

id say use it, and yes tape mod is generally always recommended

just do 1 - 3 layers of masking/painters tape

[tender rain]

okay, ty!

[sullen salmon]

yeah i recently got switch foam and they sound pretty good tbh

[tender rain]

Okay, I will use it then :)

[hearty sierra]

whats switch foam

i dont think the redux comes with that

[paper bloom]

@sullen salmon you on??

[sullen salmon]

wsp

[sullen salmon]

I think they're talking about some sort of rebuilt?

[paper bloom]

I got a bent/warped PCB

Polycarbonate module from my 60HE+

[sullen salmon]

switch foam is switch films but foam instead I imagine

[paper bloom]

Is it a defect or nah

[sullen salmon]

uhh show

photo

[paper bloom]

Dms

[hearty sierra]

ah ok

[sullen salmon]

pre built*

[sullen salmon]

where'd you get this ss from?

is it a YouTubers build?

or a pre built somewhere

[paper bloom]

its from badseed

[sullen salmon]

I thought so

[paper bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvLyb2HhrU&t=695s

[sullen salmon]

he probably jus added foam switch films

[paper bloom]

Ive been posting this since like

to like 2 other guys

LOOL

[tender rain]

yes this one

[sullen salmon]

ah okay

[sullen salmon]

so yeah they don't come with them that's just what he added/modded

they will dampen a d improve the sound

[paper bloom]

I think the switch Foam

is wtf do u call ir

it*

I think its the PCB

Modification

[tender rain]

this is what's included in tofu60 redux case

[paper bloom]

He must've done the PE Foam above the Foam plate insert or either that he must've

[paper bloom]

Btw run a brass screw that youre given once You recieve it

USE IT only on the keyboard Standoff

The rest of the standoff's work

[radiant dagger]

any recommendations for how to sonically seal the bottom hole on lekker switches

jades have sealed bottoms so...

[quick gulch]

Jades bottom out

That’s why they sound like that

And they have way tighter housing

[radiant dagger]

considering adding porous gauze to the walls of the housing for that lol

are there any sound tests for that specific mod?

[strange blaze]

Stabies v2.1 are compatible with the 60he+ module right?

[finite gate]

Clack?

Foam = deeper

[short musk]

I want to hide it because I can see what's inside.

advice please！！！！！

It may be difficult to understand because it is through translation

[quick gulch]

the amount of effort just isn't worth it. Just buy jades or raptors.

[atomic plaza]

Lower your brightness

[radiant dagger]

agreed, waiting for the double rail gateron switches tbh lol

[loud zephyr]

Gh60 case? No way to hide or lower the plate/pcb

[celest spindle]

is filming recommended for jades?

[strange blaze]

Stabies v2.1 are compatible with the 60he+ module right?

[bronze grove]

Module? Yeah probably.
60HE+? Toss up

[strange blaze]

Alr thanks

[median spade]

Nope

Filming a waste of time on all HE as it currently stands