🔧│keyboard_modding

[void hollow]

are there any new switches or mods that came out for the duration i was gone

[normal schooner]

wooting is working on new ones 🙂

how are you weeb

[void hollow]

any leak yet

[normal schooner]

long time no see

[void hollow]

im fine haha, i've been mostly just been catching up on gaming

[normal schooner]

no leaks

wooting is working hard on the #🌟│wooting80he

[marble shuttle]

Days are boring and i cant sleep

[void hollow]

no wonder i received honest feedback request on the l45 switches eh

o.o

[normal schooner]

[upbeat hornet]

hi, I've been reading here for a few weeks now to find out more and because I want to build a wooting for myself. I would like to try to get the deepest sound possible from an aluminum case like the tofu60 redux. As I understand it, I think it's called a thocky sound :D. I've already found out about most of the mods by reading along and watching videos and was thinking about doing the "standard" mods like

• Tofu60 Redux
• Internal brass weight
• 60HE+ Module
• Poron sandwich pad
• Jade switches
• PBTFans Dolch Keycap Set
• Tape Mod
• Tofu60 thin Case Foam and/or Polyfill (make sense to use both??)
• O-Ring and/or Burger mount (make sense to use both??)
• Clip in TX-Stabiulizers (if use O-Ring mount)
• Holee Mod
• Space Bar foam

When I list it like that, it sounds like a lot, but I think it's ok, right?

But now I have two more things that I'm wondering whether they make sense, whether they do anything at all and whether they work with the jade switches on the wooting without causing problems. So what do you think about these things in the pictures?

Even though I've already tried to find out a lot myself, I'd be happy to hear your opinions about my plans and maybe a tip or two.

[void hollow]

#1179300178281373716 message

these are my preferred mods^

[harsh dove]

Pretty good, I'd leave out the Poron Switch Pads, Holee Mod, and Spacebar Foam and see how you feel first

[void hollow]

^^

[harsh dove]

Holee mod is really a "fix mod" rather than a "sound mod"

and if you're getting TX AP, you won't need Holee mod

[void hollow]

yeah, if theres nothing to fix on the stabilizers, dont fix it

[upbeat hornet]

with poron switch mod you mean this little things on the pictures ?

[harsh dove]

Yes

I'd test out your board after its built before applying those

[void hollow]

spacebar foam barely does anything, if you'd love a more pronounced and fuller sound on the spacebar, id suggest just tape modding the spacebar too.

my preferred choice of tape ended up to be nano tape

[normal schooner]

cam is one of our best community modders

[harsh dove]

Lube your switches (if you want) and tune your stabs, see how it sounds and feels, go from there

[void hollow]

i second your opinion

[harsh dove]

I disagree lmao

Way better people in here than myself

[void hollow]

where is the thockson

the piss and spit on switches dude

[upbeat hornet]

i read many of your posts about the jade switches and think handlubing is not important. but i have krytox to lube them

[harsh dove]

Yeah, in my experience, the Jades came really well factory lubed

and switches can come well lubed but its the consistency that matters

Which the Jades, surprisingly were very consistent

At least in my batch

[upbeat hornet]

hmm ok ... and what about the points mentioned about the mounting system and the case dampening?
make is any sense to use both mounting system or both dampening materials or just use one of the mounting systems and just polyfill for example?

[harsh dove]

You can use the thin tofu case foam with polyfill if you like. No issues there, just don't pack too tight.

For the Burger Mount and Friction Mount, its one or the other. You cannot do both.

Most prefer Friction Mount as it delivers a more consistnent sound

[void hollow]

friction mount on top :3

[harsh dove]

And as I can see, you already know that with the Module, in order to do Friction Mount, you need clip-in stabs for backspace and spacebar

Rest can be screw-in

[upbeat hornet]

yes i know. i watch all the videos i find on youtube and read a lot on this discord

thank you. Now I feel a little more confident that I'm not doing much wrong 😄

[void hollow]

seriously, just worry less and have more fun with it

[harsh dove]

Haha no problem

[void hollow]

you'll start realise what you're doing and you'll feel more comfortable modding it in just a little bit of time

[harsh dove]

I'd also advise doing one mod at a time, to see how it changes your sound profile and feel

[upbeat hornet]

its my first "full" custom ... i try to mod my varmilo keyboard, lube everything, to tabe mod and dampening stuff but never build a full keyboard so i wanna do it right way 😄

[void hollow]

in which i feel like the friction mount will be better, unless you wanna be like me unscrewing it every 30 minutes

[harsh dove]

End up doing 20 mods and it sounds or feels like shit and then you don't know why cause you did everything at once lol

[stark osprey]

what do you get using Jade's over the Lekkers?

[void hollow]

better sound, less wobble

[harsh dove]

For most, better sound and less wobble @stark osprey

[void hollow]

but do take note that the jades will reduce your distance to 3.5mm

but who gets a wooting to set it to 4.0mm righttttttttttttt

[upbeat hornet]

i read about that and thats why i asked about this poron stuff on the pictures. maybe they do anything with the distance too

[stark osprey]

I have L45's coming in with an HE+ kit coming in, im wondering if I should just cancel the Lekkers

[normal schooner]

you can send it back for free in 30 days

[void hollow]

i think its mostly switch pads, they will end up causing the switches to be offset

[normal schooner]

ofc you need to pay shipping but hey

imo theyre really good

[void hollow]

i love how yalls confirmed my cancellation without asking me again, because i would have missed the confirmation

[spare mauve]

is there any way to get the lekker keycaps / mint carbon? Kind of boring that only black n white is available

[void hollow]

i cant lie that they are great

[normal schooner]

im afraid not

[void hollow]

to think that wooting is coming out with their own improved switches. im hella excited for it

[normal schooner]

youre half excited compared to @quiet bay

[void hollow]

since it'll mean more accuracy and precision closer to the original l60 and l45 switches

[upbeat hornet]

hmmm the jade switches are very light with just 30±7gf right? can anyone compare them maybe with mx speed silver for example? are the jades much lighter?

[void hollow]

with better sounding and less wobble on them hopefully?

[void hollow]

damn i used to use those mx speed on my k95 rgb

[void hollow]

definitely HAHA he's always here, he definitely will be more excited than me

[quiet bay]

[normal schooner]

[void hollow]

POCHIZO

[harsh dove]

Well MX Speed Silvers have a 45cN

[upbeat hornet]

i use them on my ducky shine 6 at the moment because my varmilo has been having problems lately.

[void hollow]

i went to a lan and i couldnt comprehend the keyboard

[upbeat hornet]

yeah i know ... in numbers it seems like ahuge difference.That's why I'm asking if anyone can compare them and whether they feel so much easier.

[harsh dove]

https://www.cherrymx.de/_Resources/Persistent/1/5/3/5/1535e3a742fcbbdddb5049b259cdcd59175a932d/Data_sheet_MX2A_Speed_Silver.pdf

[void hollow]

i was like no way this feels so different, like i have to bottom out the keys

[harsh dove]

Well I don’t know the exact calculations but 37 gram force equates to 36.28 cN (centinewtons)

[void hollow]

im just waiting for my module to comeeeeeeeeeee

so i can put on these tx ap

[upbeat hornet]

OK then the jades are probably very easy to operate 😄

[void hollow]

love you guys, gonna get some sleep be back when im back, take care meanwhile~

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’re very light @upbeat hornet

Later Yuuna

[upbeat hornet]

good night

[fluid ravine]

later mate!

https://tenor.com/view/my-time-will-come-russdaddy-itll-be-my-turn-soon-soon-it-will-be-me-it-will-be-my-time-soon-gif-22680383

[upbeat hornet]

hmm if i buy TX-AP stabs does it make sense to use all of them because they are better? or just the two for the friction mount? (i need 1.6mm right)

[harsh dove]

Really up to you, whatever you feel like feels better.
Yes, 1.6mm

I've heard the stock stabs on the module are good

[timid geyser]

there decent

[upbeat hornet]

ok 🙂

[harsh dove]

Can't remember who was talking about panel coatings with me but

https://youtu.be/uF9juVmnGkY?si=shyTYjqOfg_HI_or

Here's a nice video

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove you still here?

[harsh dove]

Yeah, wassup

[stray tiger]

I think I have game streaming configured correctly for this dual PC setup. Was going to see if you can check twitch and tell me how the stream looks

[harsh dove]

Yeah, sure, lets do it

[stray tiger]

Thanks I don't have chat or anything up. Just the stream

[harsh dove]

Okay, I'm in

No audio tho

[stray tiger]

Is it playing OK and clear?

Ok I didn't mess with audio. Just video. Thanks I'll drop and keep configuring

[harsh dove]

Okay, otherwise yeah, looks crisp and clear

Very clean

[stray tiger]

OK thanks. Give me a few to see where audio is off

[harsh dove]

Yeah, no problem. Just tag me when you're ready to test audio

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove ok let me know and if the volume is good

[harsh dove]

I'm in

Game Audio Sounds Great, could probably turn it down a bit in relation to your voice audio

idk why those words came out Uppercase lol

Everything sounds great audio wise, I'd just turn down the game audio cause it's louder than you are

I'd say it's still a bit louder than you, during gunfights its hard to hear you if you're talking

Way better but now I'd say the game is too quiet lol

Yeah definitely some micro tuning but this is a good base

No problem brotha

[indigo oasis]

what are these keycaps called

cus im building a tofu60 2.0 and like those keycpas on that pic is small and 2 of them are longer than the usual ones

[loud zephyr]

no idea what the specific size for the small wk but they're used on 7u spacebars. A lot of kits will have those smaller kaps

[indigo oasis]

this guys sellimg me a tofu60 2.0 can u see any extra keycaps with those

[loud zephyr]

what's the name of the keycaps set? I should be able to find it on googl

[indigo oasis]

Idk i asked him im waiting for his reply

[indigo oasis]

Yeha idk

[stray tiger]

Aren't they just WoB or am I missing the question?

[stray tiger]

These are just generic white on black pbt keycaps. Probably $20 - $30 set

[loud zephyr]

If it's this set then you won't have the option for the 7u spacebar that supports the smaller wk. https://www.amazon.com.au/Keycaps-Japanese-Minimalist-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09ZHR76DY/ref=sr_1_3?

[stray tiger]

If you're asking these ones they look like Pbtfans WoB

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-wob

[indigo oasis]

Oh ok thanks guys

[loud zephyr]

pretty sure it's the amazon one, japanese subs and the packaging isn't your overpowered Pbtfans

[stray tiger]

Edit your link and take out anything after the ?

[loud zephyr]

oh nice, didn't know that trick existed; amazon links are stupid long

[stray tiger]

Thanks, was crashing my discord on mobile lol

I agree with you though that's it likely the cheap ones off Amazon of its the second pic

[median spade]

@harsh dove how long did the jades take to get to you from gateron?

[harsh dove]

I think about two weeks

[sinful juniper]

hey guys, any ideas on how to gummy o ring the module?

[fluid ravine]

You would need clip in stabs mainly for the spacebar and backspace modifiers for the gummy o'ring to fit into the case along with the module.

[sinful juniper]

@fluid ravine oh thanks! im a super noob what is a clip in stab?

[hearty sierra]

is it even worth using clip in stabs for a gummy o ring

[fluid ravine]

Its a type of stabilizer mount. There are 3 types in the mechanical keyboard world (We don't talk about Costar Stabilizers), Plate Mount, Screw ins, and Clip ins

[fluid ravine]

Wdym

Is it worth gummy mounting?

[hearty sierra]

i thought screw in were better

[hearty sierra]

with clip in stabs or better to keep screw in stabs

[fluid ravine]

Ok screw ins and clips are both pretty good type of stabilizer mounting when it comes to how it secures onto the pcb. But in order to gummy mount the module you would need plate mount or clip in stabs in order for the ring to fit into the module as screw ins make the ring stick out causing it to not fit into the case with the module

[hearty sierra]

ah ok

[sinful juniper]

does changing the stabilizer change the sound much?

the type of stabilizer

[fluid ravine]

Just remember any stabs can sound as good with just lube and grease, the only differences between the mounting systems are just how secure they are in the board.

[fluid ravine]

@sinful juniper

[sinful juniper]

oh okay thanks thanks

[fluid ravine]

yeap

[sinful juniper]

i just want the keyboard to sound as creamy as possible

im kinda lost, just jumped into this stuff and everywhere i look theres more terminology im unfamiliar with

[fluid ravine]

Ah i see

well i wish you luck with all that

[sinful juniper]

thanks man

[fluid ravine]

Im going to head out to my studies as i am stressed out if i have 1 or 2 tests tmr

[sinful juniper]

alright man good luck with that

u got this

[fluid ravine]

Thanks, if you have any questions just ask here, surely someone will answer it as soon or possible.

[stray tiger]

Check the FAQ that's pinned to get started

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq

[sullen salmon]

just gummy oring mounted my wooting

i think it feels a lot nicer and bouncier however the sound is a little bit more chattery than burger mounted

I reckon I still prefer it this way

However it should sound better once I get Jade HE or ks20u's with tx stabs

[fluid ravine]

thats just the switches.

the sound profile should be balanced throughout the board

[glad geyser]

anyone here have experience with ceramic keycaps with an aluminum case?

using l45s if that makes a difference. are they too heavy?

[untold wigeon]

whats better for a wooting module PCBA
the Klippe T (60%) or the tofu redux 2.0 theyre both aluminum cases but is it worth the extra 40$? is it easier to build in/suit the wooting PCBA better or will the tofu 2.0 from kbdfans work just fine

[plush hearth]

where to get a custom/different strap for wooting?

[onyx pier]

So how many he keyboards are there now

Does anyone have a list or smth

[gleaming crane]

Anyone know if 3 grams of Krytox XHT-BDZ Lube would be enough to lube all my stabs?

It’s so expensive😭

[spiral canyon]

Why would you use specialized high temperature grease for stabs? 👀
Any dielectric grease would do

[quick gulch]

3 grams is more than enough bro

[gleaming crane]

I heard it lasts like forever and it’s just really high quality overall, but ig I could use dielectric grease

[quick gulch]

You’re fine with dielectric honestly it’s what ever

Dbz is cleaner if you can handle is but if you fuck around with it and it’s your first time it’ll get everywhere

[gleaming crane]

30$ for 10grams is so wild to me

[quick gulch]

Also if you get it in the housing it’s pretty gg

[torpid crow]

okay holy moly magnetic jades are nice

[quick gulch]

You’ll have to wipe down the stab

[shell geode]

$30 for grease? I think that's overdoing it

[quick gulch]

So you’re safer with DG if you don’t care

[shell geode]

They are!

[gleaming crane]

Jades are very nice indeed😌

[torpid crow]

im glad my wooting can be my "thocky" tiktok esque sounding board so i can spend my time not putting foam in my actual keyboards

[untold wigeon]

tofu redux?

[shell geode]

Tofu60 Redux is compatible, Tofu60 2.0 is not

[untold wigeon]

ty

[shell geode]

You're welcome!

[untold wigeon]

brass weight bar worth it:?

[gleaming crane]

Brass weight is 100% worth it

[shell geode]

Definitely worth it! Im not running a Tofu60 but I'm sure mostly everyone is

[untold wigeon]

Thank you 🙏

Also what magnetic switches have a deeper sound

[shell geode]

I think it's divided between the Jades and Raptors, but there are some clips of some sound tests if you scroll up a bit

[sullen salmon]

i had them, theyre fine but for the spacebar youll need l60

[sullen salmon]

na, its definitely a little bit more chattery however it has a bouncier feel

so definitely worth the trade off

[untold wigeon]

Heard the jades before it’s what I’m considering I’ll definitely check out the raptors though

[sullen salmon]

na jades are definitely supposed to be deeper

raptors allegedly have a tighter housing yet looser stem so id probably just go for the jades

theyre slightly deeper than lekkers but pretty confident the jades are more so

[shell geode]

I also got the Jades and re-lubed them, I'm quite happy with them

[sullen salmon]

sound test?

im waiting for a few more jade sound tests and the ks20u magnetic dual rail switches to be released

its really down to those two in terms of what to buy

[untold wigeon]

You know if the module pcba comes with the foam the normal wooting comes with

[bronze grove]

For the case? No. It comes with the alumaze foam.

[sullen salmon]

itll come with plate foam but i dont know about case foam

[untold wigeon]

rewatched the module video it comes with foam from the looks of it

[hearty sierra]

are u sure, i thought it didnt come with case foam

[sullen salmon]

tofu redux comes with case foam anyway if ur worried about it

[untold wigeon]

Sweet

[untold wigeon]

This is the piece of foam it comes with

Don’t know how well it would work in a case but

Comes with foam

[sullen salmon]

odd

[hearty sierra]

i thought that was to use the module if ur case hasnt arrived yet

[untold wigeon]

Ye

[hearty sierra]

not to put in the case

[untold wigeon]

That’s why I was saying would be odd to use since it’s just a solid piece but you could in theory make it work

[bronze grove]

That piece is NOT for installation.

You either use the foam that comes with your case, or this one.

The upper piece is an alternative to the silicone inlay between the plate and PCB*

[hearty sierra]

does that bottom one come with the module?

[bronze grove]

Yes.

[hearty sierra]

nice

[wispy sierra]

any ETA on wooting's new keycaps? that were previewed here https://www.youtube.com/live/BaMav6uRD3Q?si=2zmjeM-Qxn5quxUE&t=1785

[gleaming crane]

Need wooting to make a white option for their coiled cables😖

[bronze grove]

Coming!

[gleaming crane]

The upcoming keycaps look very nice, especially the monochrome take control set

Very clean

[atomic plaza]

Do you have a picture ? 👀

[timid geyser]

This gonna be a legit cheat in tarkov 💀💀

[hearty sierra]

is masking tape or painters tape better for tape mod?

[cyan summit]

better is hard to say for a tape mod since its doing almost nothing to the sound profile, but I use painters tape personally

[plucky thunder]

wait so what does the tape mod do?

[normal schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poF-Z0ajhE

[meager fable]

i dont really hear that much of a difference

[normal schooner]

I recommand the pc plate

with silicone pad

[marble shuttle]

Ooof with frog mini

[hearty sierra]

yeah i was curious about it because i read painters leaves no residue but masking is more sticky? wondering if residue on the pcb is bad

[cyan summit]

you need to try out, just stick a little bit on and see if u remove it. masking tape will probably be safer yea

[hearty sierra]

dont have any

need to decide which one to get

i dont think it will make a difference in sound

[cyan summit]

it does almost nothing, really

very over populated mod

[untold wigeon]

both fine

[wet hazel]

Tofu60 Redux Mocha arrived finally, now I need to wait for the Module 60HE

[marsh saffron]

nice color

[hearty sierra]

ok ty

[placid field]

tofu redux+ brass weight+ 60he+ l45 a, foam , stock switches

[marsh saffron]

Would you mind sending the hex code/color code you used for your RGB?

[placid field]

all white xD

ffffff

[marsh saffron]

Might've been my brightness than

Mine seemed a lot more blue/grey but I had the brightness down quite a bit

[placid field]

prolly my shitty cam qual

[tame vessel]

Out of curiosity, I've heard of people cautioning about not fitting too much foam in the space between the PCB and the bottom of the case. Why is that? I currently have a tofu redux using the base wooting foam with the small layer split off and it feels sorta squished in

[placid field]

on the redux theres 2 notches on the top, i cut out the foam to fit

for me it fits fine rn

[tame vessel]

Yeah, the foam seemed mostly fine on the cut just a bit thick maybe? I was mostly wondering if I should swap to the thin layer that comes with the redux

[placid field]

i used the wooting foam and for me its alr xD

[agile grove]

the liner that comes with the redux doesnt do that much

you could always switch to polyfill

[tame vessel]

Ah alright, nice. I saw that it was thin for a reason xD

Thanks!

[crimson sky]

ok the pom plate that I got made is too soft for sure

I should probably get an alu one made

and then also reconsider how to attach the PCB to the plate

since the frog has too little room to use even small screws

though I need to press quite hard for that to be an issue

[marble shuttle]

Alu always better bro

You have frog mini aswell right ?

[crimson sky]

yes

altho

I gotta say

had no issues even with RT so far

no noticeable ones in a typing test at least

[marble shuttle]

I got comlatable alu plate from Korea lets see when module arrives

[stray tiger]

You used the stock Frog Mini plate and not one with standoffs?

[crimson sky]

nah I made a custom one

stock frog mini plate is alu

there is a wooting compatible official plate from geon

but korea only

[stray tiger]

But you didnt add standoff holes to your custom plate?

[crimson sky]

I did

I messed them up

and had to use a backup solution

[stray tiger]

Ohh ok. Now it makes sense lol

[crimson sky]

if I press hard on space the screw next to it still touches the bottom case tho

[marble shuttle]

How the messup happened

[stray tiger]

I have a plate file you can use with correct holes on it.

I had send cut send make mine and it was fine. No issues

[crimson sky]

I just copied over the dimensions for the holes from wootings documentation without checking the diameter

[marble shuttle]

Could you share with me aswell ? Please

[crimson sky]

made a fixed version now tho

[marble shuttle]

I hope it doesnt happen me bro i will do carefually

[crimson sky]

those were the only weird part

[marble shuttle]

Still i couldnt open the case bacuse i dont have right screwdriver

🤣🤣

Iam lazy bro

😱

[marble shuttle]

Thanks

[untold wigeon]

[uncut musk]

anyone have a picture of their redux with the 60 wooting wrist rest

[fair vessel]

Is there a manual for the wooting module?

Idk how to assemble the module/ alumaze

Lol

[agile grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsRcYxZgBCo

[fair vessel]

I saw that but what are these

[uncut musk]

tyy, they match up pretty well huh

[sharp yew]

its a pretty clean looking wristrest plus the material is more comfortable and durable than i thought

[agile grove]

you put those little rings either on the standoff or on the underside of the pcb where it screws into the case to dampen the vibrations.

[fair vessel]

Which ones where?

Black & clear

[agile grove]

yes

[glacial wind]

not going to lie, the size of that mousepad in the photo gives me anxiety

[uncut musk]

it is a little small

[sharp yew]

why

[uncut musk]

high dpi gamer

[agile grove]

the little brass colored screws go in the hole near where the spacebar would be iirc, its a standoff, there 2 so you have an extra one. and then the screws for the case ofc.

[glacial wind]

it's giving me 'not enough mousepad room' ptsd

[fair vessel]

& what are the nuts for?

Also which should I use, black or clear rings? Or stack them? One kn pcb side other on standoff?

[sharp yew]

I could size up like 1.5 times but I don't play enough competitive games to care for arm aiming

[glacial wind]

yeah if you're full wrist aimer with high dpi it won't matter

[sharp yew]

I still do 800dpi

anything higher is gross

[uncut musk]

W mouse

[glacial wind]

dpi/sens

[sharp yew]

800 and around 2 sens for most games

[uncut musk]

Dav3 white with the white tofu and those keycaps is so clean

[glacial wind]

yeah that's quite high for sure, but makes sense since you wrist aim

[agile grove]

its completely up to you on what color you want, dont stack them.

[agile grove]

what nuts?

[spice herald]

just got tx stabs in my build and made a new sound test

[fair vessel]

Sorry brass screws looked like they were nuts and not screws lol

[sharp yew]

honestly, when I do play something serious like an arena shooter, it is too small and I actually might end up hitting the board

[agile grove]

they're standoffs, the screw goes into it. like I said its for the bottomish of the case, the spacebar screw.

[sharp yew]

might look into another pad when I get sick of this one so my elbow isn't just touching my bare desk

[fair vessel]

What abt the white screws?

It's a separate bag

[sharp yew]

arent those for screwing the pcb into the case

[agile grove]

pretty sure the module comes with screws, and so does the alumaze(?)

thats why you have 2 sets

[fair vessel]

Ah so i can use those or the ones which were in the bag with the bronze screws?

[agile grove]

I think so

whichever ones you feel like

[fair vessel]

Gotcha thank you for helping me man!

[uncut musk]

No one has made a Module unboxing on yt yet

[fair vessel]

Ok so i put in a piece of foam, then 2 brass standoffs then the rings, now i screw in the pcb and install the switches & keys and that's it?

[true patrol]

silicone standoff rings from kbdfans and geon raptors....sounds so good

[true patrol]

which case is this, the alumaze? that sounds correct

[fair vessel]

Yes!

Btw i just force the switches in right

Like it's ok to apply force

Like inserting ram

[true patrol]

you'll have to apply some, yeah

just make sure it's straight down, not at an angle, so the alignment posts fit into the holes on the pcb

and if you care about rgb, make sure the switches are north-facing (see picture)

[fair vessel]

Yeah got that part down

I got this

[true patrol]

actually this is better pic of north-facing (although you said you got it, just wanna make sure for people who see this in the future)

[fair vessel]

Ive got the iso layout, can you piint me to which key I should have set to 90°

Is it this

[true patrol]

that is not the iso layout

that's ansi

[fair vessel]

Wait u right

Lmao

[true patrol]

lol np

[fair vessel]

Ok so everything north

Ok ty lmao

Sorry

[true patrol]

you good

[sweet forum]

just look at the pcb and turn the northside towards the led xD

[true patrol]

although you're right, if it was iso, the one you're pointing at WOULD be the one that you turn

[fair vessel]

Also i got foam from both the module and the alumaze

Should i stack em?

I only put in one

[true patrol]

is there foam between your pcb and plate right now?

[fair vessel]

Yeah, j one

I got an extra

Also another for underneath the keys too

[true patrol]

oh, the module also comes with case foam? did not realize. I'd probably just use the foam from the alumaze for now, leave the module's case foam aside, but if there's room to stack them comfortably you could

but you don't want to be having to force the pcb down to screw it in

[fair vessel]

Uhh i dont remember which foam i installed

I grabbed what looked like the thickest

Does it matter?

[true patrol]

eh, I'm guessing they're the same kind of foam since they both came from wooting so it probably doesn't matter

[uncut musk]

im pretty sure they are almost exactly the same

[fair vessel]

They looked like they had a variance of a mm between them and the thinner one seemed a little rougher

Could be cap

[true patrol]

it may be, the surface texture doesn't really have any effect as far as I know, it's just thickness and material type that influences the sound

most foam (as long as it's not the bottom-tier aliexpress stuff) ends up making the same "foam" sound in keyboards, it's not really worth putting much thought into

[uncut musk]

they are both EPDM foam o7

[true patrol]

Oh nice

[fair vessel]

Also ik it's a 60% but damn it's so tiny

I expected it to be way bigger

Even though i used a 60% before this

Lol

[true patrol]

Yeah some cases have some wild bezels on them

[fair vessel]

I have a feelinf this is not where im supposed to put this foam?

[hearty sierra]

that foam goes inbetween the pcb and plate

[fair vessel]

Oh, the plate was already pre installed

Do i take it off?

[hearty sierra]

is there a silicone inbetween it?

[fair vessel]

Uhhhh

[hearty sierra]

take that black foam off yea

[fair vessel]

Now that u mention it, there wasn't one in any boxes so I'm guessing the silicone one is installed

[hearty sierra]

i think i read the module does come with the silicone pre installed

so u can keep that if u like

[fair vessel]

Ah ok I'll keep that then

[true patrol]

Yeah there should be foam underneath the pcb (in the case), and there should be foam between the plate and the pcb, but that's it

assuming, of course, that you want that sound. both foams are optional

[hearty sierra]

but yea that black foam doesnt go there haha

[untold wigeon]

💀

[fair vessel]

Hey I'm new to this man 😭😭😭

[hearty sierra]

could u even press those 2 keys down with that there

[true patrol]

The good thing is, you do not need to take out switches to decouple the plate from the pcb since there's no pins soldered in/socketed

so if you need to swap/install plate foam, it's still ez

[fair vessel]

Uh which comes first ctrl or fn?

It's ordered diff in the box than from this reference img

[true patrol]

on the wooting by default, it's fn in the bottom right corner

but of course this is changeable anyway in wootility so install them how you want them

[fair vessel]

Ah ok I'll follow the reference then

[true patrol]

keycaps came in the package that way because most standard boards have ctrl in the corner

[gaunt linden]

@harsh dove did you lube your jades?

[fair vessel]

Done

Thank you guys for guiding me through the process of building it!

[true patrol]

Nice!

[true patrol]

wait, gateron made ANOTHER he switch with the same materials? Why?

This is at least their third HE switch with POM stem, PC top and Nylon bottom

[hearty sierra]

clean af

[tawdry tree]

Loot. Gonna be posting KS-37B switch pictures later tonight or tomorrow. It’s not the same as KS-20Us but it’s close.

ATK also has an extremely original box design.

[swift bay]

Only thing left that is original is the pcb board.

[true patrol]

what's with the one key from a different set?

looks pretty tho

[devout torrent]

and windows key 🙂

[swift bay]

lol yes the windows key too

[thorny isle]

is there any third party coiled cables that work with the wooting?

wooting dont have the colour im after

[swift bay]

i believe most 3rd party cables should work. Only thing is they recommend turning the rgb off. Some cables dont have enough power draw with it on.

[devout torrent]

any high quality cable should have no issues

try getting a cablemod or something like that\

[swift bay]

Only because it has the wooting logo on it. I've changed the keycaps to black keycaps so it blends in now. Those in the picture had a grey tint to it.

[stray tiger]

The cablemod pro cables may work for you, Id avoid the cheaper cablemod cables. Check the modding FAQ for more info https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[thorny isle]

ok thanks guys

[weary tree]

just got cerakeys

so disapointed

half the keys arent even straight

[uncut musk]

those look bad compared to what they are supposed to look like 😭

[halcyon obsidian]

and these are cerakeys?

[weary tree]

yeah

the whole row zxcvbnm isnt straight

[uncut musk]

I feel like maybe this is a QC issue

[weary tree]

yeah i emailed them for warranty

hopefully get a proper set

[halcyon obsidian]

those look ROUGH

[uncut musk]

yeah they look like they were fucked

from the start

[stray tiger]

Ooof the E is rough

[halcyon obsidian]

only the number rough looks decent

[uncut musk]

yeah the bottom row is real bad 💀

the slash key real tilted

[weary tree]

yeah its a wombo combo

even the enter key is chipped

[uncut musk]

i feel like that expensive of a keycap set should have better QC

[weary tree]

clones look better in comparison

lmao

[uncut musk]

thats rough, its like they sent you the middle finger in the box

[halcyon obsidian]

even in the pictures they look good but the keys still look like different sizes and kinda crooked

[uncut musk]

i wonder if other people have had same issues

i wonder if its just a problem the material has

[halcyon obsidian]

like they arent all the same size

[uncut musk]

yeah

[halcyon obsidian]

I think it might just be the nature of the material and and adding a legend on it might just make it look worse

[true patrol]

that spacebar gap gets me every time, looks so scuffed

[halcyon obsidian]

but here they look great

[uncut musk]

^

[sharp yew]

ill always stand by cerakeys being too cold for me

[weary tree]

ive seen other people have good sets thats why i ordered them

[sharp yew]

it's like -1c outside imagine typing on that

[uncut musk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/192tphh/new_cerakey_v2_qa_issues/

ew this one is also bad

lmao

[weary tree]

yeah

[uncut musk]

most of the reviews ive seen have been good as well tbf

they do have a 21 day policy so you should be chillin

[weary tree]

ye im not worrying

at worst i return them

[uncut musk]

do people put like little tiny mouse pads under their keyboard

[weary tree]

i put a keyboard pad

but its likea mouse pad

[halcyon obsidian]

a lot of people liek those like wool felt pads

cause sound

[uncut musk]

or ig it would be a mat

[true patrol]

yeah, some folks who don't want a full deskmat will get a keyboard mat that's just big enough, usually for sound

[uncut musk]

ye

[weary tree]

i got this in black and pink

[true patrol]

fire

[uncut musk]

does it make the sound a little bit quieter or just a little bit deeper?

[true patrol]

could pair well with that acrylic cut 60%/40% that had the same cat shape in it

[true patrol]

usually it's just a bit deeper, less resonant

depends what the surface underneath is, really

[uncut musk]

yeah i saw alexotos using one so i was curious

also in speeds pic

[halcyon obsidian]

put a T-shirt under ur keyboard and see how it changes the sound if ur curious

[true patrol]

^
or just move your mousepad under it, assuming you have one

but then again if you bought a gaming keyboard and you don't have a mousepad, maybe fix your priorities lmfao

[uncut musk]

my mousepad a thick boi, doing this just made me realize how hollow my spacebar sounds 😭

[true patrol]

shit, that reminds me
I ordered from kbdfans and meant to get some of that shaped spacebar foam, and I forgot. and the shipping is too expensive to justify ordering it standalone

[halcyon obsidian]

kilmat is good for fixing that

[uncut musk]

fr

[halcyon obsidian]

I think dvinikeys has it too but not for sure

divini*

[true patrol]

yeah, a couple random brands on amazon do as well, I could get it one way or another

[uncut musk]

i think i gotta order a mat because its no where near as loud

what is your guys preferred sound for a switch

[true patrol]

depends on linear/tactile/clicky

[weary tree]

linear thock or milky

[true patrol]

for linear I like the trendy foam thock even though it's kinda overdone at this point

gateron just made some mx clickies with a click leaf in them instead of the usual jacket or bar, they sound wild

https://youtu.be/RJqIWWlzBBc?t=140

[mental salmon]

Take a look to this “numpad” https://drop.com/buy/magicforce-mf34-mechanical-numpad-drop-exclusive?searchId=3f9b08ccaa1a7e344ba4265959b5e278&defaultSelectionIds=983222%2C983224

[weary tree]

thats kinda cheap for a hotswap programmable numpad

[true patrol]

magicforce been doing some decent budget stuff for a while, nice to see they are still at it

oh they support qmk now, hell yeah

[mental salmon]

Could be a good companion for my 60HE while working 😄

[true patrol]

I think my first board from them was a 65% from probably....2014? I swapped in cherry reds that I desoldered from some old broken gaming board and used it for work for a while

good ol MF68, stabs sounded like absolute dogass but at the time I wasn't awakened to things like lubing or foam

anyway thank you for coming to my ted talk

[brittle sonnet]

Hi guys has anyone tried the jade switches? I'm wondering if 3.5mm is 3.5mm and what the bounce back of the switches actually feel like at the operating force req

Whether they feel slower in a game when releasing, or if it makes little to no diff

[true patrol]

well the operating force is kinda configurable since the travel is adjustable

and as far as releasing goes, it doesn't really matter with the wooting since rapid trigger gets rid of release time

personally I don't feel like the jades would be worth it, since it's identical materials to the lekker or ks-20, I fail to see how it would be any different besides spring weight.

but maybe someone is aware of differences that I am not

[brittle sonnet]

Yeah my concern was that the 60g switches bounce back quite quickly, that even though the jade's are lighter, it might actually feel a bit slower, but maybe I am overthinking it. I'll probably just order a 10 pack to try but just curious

[glacial wind]

i never notice the difference on similar 3.5mm switches as far as bounce back since that depends on spring tension etc - but I do notice the reduced travel

it's more on the push down where I notice it bottoms out quicker

[brittle sonnet]

Yeah, if it's actually 3.5mm that's why I'm interested in them

[true patrol]

With the switches disengaging when they move up and reengaging when they start moving down (even if they haven't fully reset yet), I don't think it's possible for them to "feel" any slower. More than likely placebo if they do

[glacial wind]

it's mostly for the first 30 mins after I swap boards when i notice it, after that you forget and get used to it, but I definitely notice less travel right when I swap between my 4mm switches and 3.5mm switch boards

[true patrol]

But a faster bottom out will for sure be noticeable in typing, even if it doesn't make them actuate any faster

[brittle sonnet]

Yeah I guess with RT the difference is basically zero in that regard as I use 0.3mm anyway

True I didn't consider that

[agile grove]

the jades 100% sound better lol, they dont have that chattery lekker sound. as for if they're worth it? thats entirely up to you. personally I would say nah since I wanna wait for better and more switch options, but if you have the money to buy them, and the money to upgrade later (or if you just wanna stick with them for a while) then they are worth it.

[brittle sonnet]

And yeah less distance I prefer for fast arena FPS games, so combined with RT it sounds like a improvement regardless

[true patrol]

I honestly think the lekkers just have bad qc.

ks-20's are "identical" to lekkers in every way and yet my ks-20's sounded so much better because the housing didn't have the insane wobble that the lekkers did for me. At the time I just assumed I got a bad batch but maybe it wasn't just me

but I'm on raptors now and honestly I don't see a reason I'd change to anything else, they sound 100x better

[brittle sonnet]

Alright I'll try them, I'm going to do an alumaze order with he60+ module later and either buy 60s or stick with the Jades

Already have a 60he with 60s and like them, just interested in the 3.5mm part and wanted to check no downsides due to such low op force in performance

[agile grove]

any switches other than lekkers are pretty much entirely for sound, doesnt really change performance.

[brittle sonnet]

Thx guys

[weary tree]

i want them but im poor lol

[brittle sonnet]

Have a nice evening all and ty

[true patrol]

np np

[agile grove]

that was because tmk the ks-20s were better factory lubed, but they are pretty much identical to lekkers. jades do in fact sound better than ks-20s and lekkers imo, but it depends on mods since I've noticed jades are more sensitive to mod config for some reason. im sure you can get lekkers to sound fine as long you hand lube them and get a good batch tbf, but jades are better imo.

oh I should also mention that jades have much less wobble which makes them better aswell.

[tawdry tree]

Top and bottom housing of the Lekkers and KS-20s are the same, the only difference is the stem. I used both side by side and can’t really tell the difference, stem wobble is the same, and housings are as tight or as lose rather.

[agile grove]

personally I would say all switches out rn arent worth it unless you truly cant stand the sound of hand lubed lekkers. I would wait it out, im sure by Q2/summer we'll have many more switches, since it seems like a new one is coming out every 1-2weeks.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[agile grove]

and by the end of the year we should have a ton of choices.

I might wait unless Q2 or maybe even Q4 before choosing new switch tbh

lekkers sound fine hand lubed

new batches are even better

[glacial wind]

I’m not expecting a ton more new he switches honestly

At least not for next 6 months, there’ll be a few but might be awhile for next gen wave

[stray tiger]

Im tracking around 10-14 HE switches so far (not all compatible with Wooting to be clear)

[glacial wind]

I’m expecting neo and lekker 2.0 as the upcoming ones that will be compatible with wooting in the near future

Maybe raptor raw but I don’t know if that counts as new since it’s just raptor but clear top

[mental salmon]

I just patiently wait for the lekkers v2, neo lekkers or whatever they call them

[true patrol]

I know they're SUPPOSED to be the same, but the batch of lekkers I got have visible housing wobble and the KS-20's I got do not, they're most definitely tighter

[mental salmon]

If Wooting offer new springs, that is something I will experiment with

[true patrol]

I'd just assumed at the time that I got a bad set, but since then I've seen one or two others saying the same thing so it makes me think it wasn't just mine

the only difference is the stem
they're both listed as POM stems. what's different about them?

[mental salmon]

While seeing last Calder stream I just realized Gateron never said they had switches in development to Wooting

[bronze grove]

Eh?

[true patrol]

hello fellow duck

[lunar sand]

one moar:
https://www.endgamegear.com/en-de/keyboards/kb65he

[normal schooner]

another keyboard. nothing special

[tawdry tree]

Lekkers have a spike sort of at the bottom, the 20s don’t, they’re flat.

Not too sure what the spike is for

but it is there. 😂

[true patrol]

ahhh I see

[polar girder]

That’s cool

Yeah pulsar gonna have one this year too lol

[sharp yew]

oh lord

[placid field]

wooting better

[true patrol]

There are keyboards that sound/feel better than the wooting, but no one has been able to beat their performance yet in any benchmark I've seen. Until someone can challenge them on latency there just isn't anything to talk about with any of the other hall effect boards advertising themselves as "for gaming"

especially on rapid trigger latency, not that I'm claiming to be able to feel that difference, but still. More perf is more perf

[gleaming crane]

They’ve spent years perfecting it, they will always be top of the game

[shell geode]

Which makes sense. Wooting paved the way and now everyone else is just pushing their board into the market to try and catch up

[ancient bluff]

I have seen this video online. Do yall think the 60he pcb will work in this case with gummy oring?

https://youtu.be/_XFBIqrewXU?si=HzpbJyEfwfzvJuNl

[agile grove]

I have no idea

[uncut musk]

yo Luigi did you get expedited shipping for your module

[agile grove]

theres the tofu redux however, that should work

[agile grove]

I think so

[devout torrent]

Ye it should work

[halcyon obsidian]

You can gummy o ring mount the Wooting in most cases it can fit in

[devout torrent]

I was going to have one of these made a while back

Case files are on his GitHub

[halcyon obsidian]

But like what make the gummy mount really work is have half circle cut outs on the pcb, and having notches in the care that lineup with the pcb and the o-ring

That’s what makes the bakeneko gasket mounted

Now with that said you can still do this with the Wooting it just won’t be “gasket mounted”

[ancient bluff]

yea thats what i think

[supple sedge]

What type of tape and foam should I use to mod my 60he?

[halcyon obsidian]

so really doing the gummy mount in the wooting is just friction mounting it in the case

[agile grove]

the stock foam is good tbh, painters or masking tape.

[supple sedge]

Alright thank you

[halcyon obsidian]

now with that said if you use polyfill in the case with a gummy mount you can still get some "bounce"

[fluid ravine]

G'day!

im home :D

[uncut musk]

welcome home

think i might put my akko pianos back into my board instead of these Morandis

[spare mauve]

does anyone have a sound comparison for stock 60he vs 60he+ (or 60he ansi + pc plate)?
or was it ever posted here or on youtube? cant find something like that

[quiet bay]

i mean if you put the 60he+ in stock case the only difference would be the stabilizers and pc plate

[spare mauve]

yes, im talking about the pc plate. I wonder how much it will change the sound

didnt find any sound sample comparing both (steel and pc)

[quiet bay]

well if u need a steel plate vs pc plate

[quiet bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjIHyIxfUwA&t=127s

[fluid ravine]

In terms of sound, steel plate is louder comparing to pc plate

[spare mauve]

i really need new glasses.. thank you!

[fluid ravine]

feel however, steel is the firmest when it comes to plates and comparing to the rest

pc plate should be a bit softer. I say a bit because the both pcb and plate are screwed together

[quiet bay]

pc plate definitely does sound better tho c:

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[glad ruin]

There's someone out there who like the sound of steel and has metal keycaps. I'm sure of it.

[fierce canyon]

I'm a couple hours late here but, i modded my lekkers to be much lighter. Can confirm the lighter spring strength makes a small difference in how fast it goes back up, even with RT at 0.15mm. But for most keys it's very small. Spacebar's the only key where most people might care.

I cut up and thinned out my A and D keys to counteract that slightly, but it's only 'cause i like ridiculous stuff like Any Radiance (A hollow knight modded boss.) and i'm honestly not sure how much of a difference that even makes.

Well, ehh, i've got entirely different, heavier keycaps on W and S and they're noticably slower.

...been meaning to do similar stuff to those caps actually...

Though my springs are prooobably lighter than the jades TBF

[agile grove]

@autumn creek this seems right up your alley

[fallow burrow]

Is it possible to slam the wooting 60 PCB into a ducky mecha mini ? Do anyone know?

[fluid ravine]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5593 you have this one?

[static tendon]

Yes it should be able to fit

I have a ducky mecha and had older ducky one 2 mini's. They have the standard 60% tray mount design. They should fit no problem

[fluid ravine]

Cus the Ducky One 2 Mini works

[normal schooner]

kosmos

[static tendon]

Just make sure it's not the 65% version, then that would not work

[normal schooner]

the 3d files of the alumaze are on github

just saying

[static tendon]

Appreciate the update

With this 3d files, would we be able to 3d print that little bronze piece?

[normal schooner]

yes

[static tendon]

Oooo very tempting. I just need to find someone with a 3D printer now. I'd print out that detachable piece and make it black or the concrete gray to match the theme

Got the link right here: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/blob/main/wooting-alumaze60/alumaze60_accent_github.stl

[normal schooner]

[static tendon]

May not be relevant but I did get the expedited shipping since it was offered for free and it’s been pushed out to February but this may be due to me also purchasing the alumaze60 along with the order

[uncut musk]

yeah mine got pushed out as well because of the Ship leaving 2 weeks later than it originally was

[static tendon]

Is your module already on its way?

My order still hasn’t reached the warehouse

[uncut musk]

I mean it hasnt gotten to the warehouse yet

but it probably will some time late next week probs

[static tendon]

Hoping that happens as well 🤞

[uncut musk]

fr

[fierce void]

I dont have my plate and my pcb screwed together at all

[static tendon]

I’m also gonna likely be picking up a set of gmk striker keycaps this Saturday so hopefully that goes according to plan

[uncut musk]

im ready to build my stuff

[static tendon]

I’m somewhat ready. Just finalizing some parts

[uncut musk]

I have everything besides the module and switches

[slim drift]

What switches u getting?

[uncut musk]

L45s, decided to wait till later this year once a few more options come out till i get something other than the lekkers

[static tendon]

Oh nice! I got both the L45s and L60s since they discounted to 50% off when purchasing the module

[slim drift]

There are switches like jades and raptors if u dont pike lekkers

[static tendon]

I have a feeling I’ll be using the L45’s though. But who knows 🤷‍♂️

[uncut musk]

yeah I was thinking about the jades but decided to just rock it out with the lekkers, im planning on doing @fluid ravine switch tape mod

[static tendon]

I’ve tested out the Apex Mini in the past and loved the spring weight of the switches. I’m trying to match that with this wooting

[uncut musk]

which will be pain

but

yeah 60 gram springs are uncomfy for me

[slim drift]

Wdym by @thockson switch tape mod

[harsh dove]

#1173784544529363034 message

[uncut musk]

Yuh

[slim drift]

And he made that sound with the lekkers???

[quiet bay]

yes 👍

[slim drift]

That sounds yummy asf WOW

DANG

[quiet bay]

the switch tape mod is very time consuming tho

[uncut musk]

i think like for right now unless a switch comes out that really blows my mind, getting 70 switches for 20 bucks that sound fine was just kinda like a no brainer for me as someone who was building on a budget

[fluid ravine]

I have been summoned

[fluid ravine]

Ay I mean, we may be broke in money, but we are not broke in time

[quiet bay]

[static tendon]

Agreed

[uncut musk]

we are young lads with plenty of time on our hands

[fluid ravine]

really young lads..

[uncut musk]

I dont think im as young as you but still young

[fluid ravine]

foreva yung!

[untold wigeon]

[slim drift]

Show us before and after

[quiet bay]

only reason why lekkers sound so bad is because of the amount of wobble it has 😔

so....

what will wooting cook up with new lekkers ? 🤔

[fluid ravine]

omg 😂

[quiet bay]

must knowww!!!!

[fluid ravine]

And the Jades simply answered our problems with the lekers

really wasnt the materials after all

[quiet bay]

materials still do affect sound thoo

[fluid ravine]

yeah but im saying they dont sound horrible at all

[quiet bay]

but the wobble is just that bad that it affects the entire sound

[fluid ravine]

exactly

[quiet bay]

next big thing new revisioned switches!! 🙏

[fluid ravine]

you are really excited abt it 😭

[quiet bay]

yez

[fluid ravine]

prob the most excited in the whole server

lawd

[quiet bay]

Wooting has best performance HE Keyboard

now they must make

best sounding HE Switch without affecting performance

cuz i'm sure sound will also be a selling point either way

[fluid ravine]

just improve the switch while having the same magnet ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet bay]

truee

but since they wanna be independent from gateron

[true patrol]

honestly raptor already good, prefer that anyway

[quiet bay]

will they be doing dual rail ?? 🤔

[fluid ravine]

nah

Im pretty sure Calder said no when we were in the meeting

[quiet bay]

so noww

we wonder

how wooting will make their new ones 😎

[fluid ravine]

they can do what the jades did

without the closed bottom housing

lel

💀

[true patrol]

I thought jades were just shorter travel, what else is different about them that affects the sound?

or are they just tighter tolerances

[fluid ravine]

increase/improve the dimensions of both top housing and stem

[fluid ravine]

like the bottom out distance is shorter by .5mm than the lekkers as i was told

[true patrol]

It’s 5mm

[fluid ravine]

?

[true patrol]

Or, sorry, yes

No brain atm

[fluid ravine]

same

struggling studying for test rn

taking a short break here

[true patrol]

But that shouldn’t affect the sound much, if people are saying they sound better it must be from something else I would assume

[fluid ravine]

Yes

[true patrol]

I’m guessing either placebo or it’s just built with tighter tolerance

Suppose it could also be a better factory lube but I’m doubtful of that

[fluid ravine]

Again the tighter tolerance which was from the top housing and stem increasing in size was a big improvement when it come to the HE switch sounding better.

[true patrol]

Oh the jade stem is bigger than the lekker/ks-20?

[fluid ravine]

The closed bottom housing or another of saying the HE switch now having a bottom out pole is probably just to make the bottom out sound cleaner. Nothing else

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[true patrol]

Ahh

Oh yeah I noticed the closed bottom just now.

I was asking earlier how they were different and “shorter travel” was the only answer I got lol

[fluid ravine]

Let's take Raptor for example, comparing to the lekkers, the Raptors uses a different top housing material which is Nylon. But when it came to the sizes of housing and stem, Geon increased the size of the top housing but decreased the size of the stem which means it has a little bit of stem wobble but much improved comparing to the lekkers, but it doesn't mean it will eliminate the chatter noise.

How do we know that they decreased the stem size? Easy! When switching the Raptor stem to the Lekker stem, you can notice that when actuating the switch, you would notice that there is friction in the keystroke of the Frankenstein switch and the stem wobble is even more decreased!

[fluid ravine]

ah i see

Well i hope i answered your question

[fluid ravine]

I mean the factory lube has improve by "alot" comparing to what it was back then. Got some few tests on lubing the jades and after lubing like 3, users like @harsh dove notice no difference from stock and lubed

[true patrol]

Indeed

[fluid ravine]

yep thats a gh60 form factor indeed

it should work like a charm

[fallow burrow]

😍😍😍

Ordered yesterday the wooting pcb 🥰

[fluid ravine]

Ah niceu

I hope you enjoy it when you get it

[fallow burrow]

But the mecha mini is a little outdated in comparison

But the case, the overall Quality is good tbh

So that will be the move

[static tendon]

Yes this Ducky Mecha Mini should fit with the module or the original wooting PCB

[static tendon]

It certainly, I love this case to this case to this day

[fluid ravine]

is it aluminum?

I was thinking of getting a ducky back then but decided not to so i forgot everything abt it

[fallow burrow]

Its metal, maybe aluminum yeah. Its a heavy case.

[fluid ravine]

esp since i got the wooting for almost a year now

alu it is

[static tendon]

That's what I'm using right now, except it's the Frozen Llama color instead

[fluid ravine]

voyage?

oh fk

FROZEN LLAMAAA

OOOOO

[fallow burrow]

Its difficult to get nice keycaps for germany ISO DE Layout. :/

[static tendon]

I think I have had this keyboard for just about 5 years now. Crazy to think about all that time I've had it

Yeah ordered in 2019

[fluid ravine]

damn 💀

[fallow burrow]

Oh wow. Still rollin

Nice 😝

[fluid ravine]

2019 feels like a year ago or 2

[static tendon]

Yeah no scratches, perfectly maintained. It's as if I just purchased it from day 1

[fallow burrow]

Faxxxx

[static tendon]

Agreed

Anyone see these keycaps off of Novelkeys? Like a duplicate of the Frozen llama keycaps https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/key-kobo-glacier

Same purplish spacebar, similar teal color. Just in their Cherry profile version

[fluid ravine]

Prospa..

Don't-

[loud zephyr]

They look like a lighter version of Frozen Llama's. I have Key Kobo's in WoB and the quality is pretty good

Def recommended

[static tendon]

Haha, I wouldn't get them again but they do look cool

[fluid ravine]

Thank god

[loud zephyr]

[static tendon]

I'm trying to go for GMK striker and white case. Love the look together

[loud zephyr]

I think Oblotzky still has Striker but maybe wait for a sale

It's one of those sets that often shows up in the aftermarket

[loud zephyr]

[static tendon]

They do, its $147 when converted. Someone in my area is selling for a lot less so I'll try picking them up this Saturday

[loud zephyr]

yeah go for it, it's a pretty nice set

[static tendon]

For $147, I'd probably go for the GMK Vaporwave instead off novelkeys since I do prefer those caps a bit more. But they run at $160

160 is quite steep but for around a 100 or so I'd go for the GMK Striker if possible

[wet trench]

Does anyone know a good keycap set Io can get to match this mousepad? I saw on aliexpress a set called the Firefly but it has too much blue. Also would heavier springs make the keycaps push back up faster? I'm getting mixed answers

[static tendon]

Heavier springs would push the keycap faster, but the difference isn't going to make you better at gaming. It's more preference than anything else

[static tendon]

I don't have any particular recommendations but going for nuetral colors for this may be the best bet since there's a lot of mixture of colors on this mousepad. Maybe someone else here would have some other recommendations

[loud zephyr]

this would've been a fun set to match but not sure if there'll be another run https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-tripleshot-kabuki-cho

[wet trench]

yea i've noticed that the wooting didn't improve my skill that much but is nice for movement tech

[wet trench]

ty ill check it out

[static tendon]

Just to clarify, you're saying the wooting didn't improve your overall skill too much? It is helpful to have though for sure

[loud zephyr]

yeah I pretty much sweat on GMK sales these days, still too pricey despite the slow down in the hobby

[static tendon]

Riiiight? Have you seen oblotzky site go on sale with the GMK striker?

[wet trench]

yea, its just nice to have. like easier superglides and redirections in apex

[static tendon]

That would be very convincing

[static tendon]

Ah gotcha, that makes sense

[loud zephyr]

Yes but not sure how often Obltzy has sales but the deals are often similar to NK's

[static tendon]

That would be aweseome to see. I'll keep an eye out. Otherwise I'll pickup that striker set in person this upcoming Saturday hopefully

[static tendon]

Just thinking out loud here but this might fit the theme - off novelkeys https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/cyl-phantom-r2-keycaps

[wet trench]

I'm looking something with red, blue and the yellow.

is that too specific? should I combine 2 sets?

[static tendon]

Gotcha, it's good to be specific, keeps the build color scheme consistant. But I personally don't know of any keycaps with that color scheme

[wet trench]

man I thought I was ganna be so smart combineing the two, naw its balls

[glacial wind]

osume night market would be another option https://osume.com/products/night-market-keycaps

[wet trench]

thanks for the recommendation. I like the novelties since they match the pad lol. Ill see if I can find a better matching spacebar

[wet trench]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/pbtfans-ronin?variant=41483137745035 do yall think this would look good? I think its the right colors but in the wrong spot

[stable kindle]

for you too?!?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[stable kindle]

there anything new that people are jizzing over>

?*

[loud zephyr]

keyboard related, absolutely nothing. new GR Yaris though ooh

[wet trench]

i think i found something i really like https://drop.com/buy/momoka-matsuri-dye-subbed-pbt-keycap-set

[loud zephyr]

best one so far imo

[untold wigeon]

Mods:
3 layer tape mod
Poron foam
Tofu redux case
Holee mod
Bandaid mod
The packing foam in between PCB and plate (forgot what it’s called lol)
PC plate
I might have forgot some but that’s what I can remember lol

Left: lekker switches with 3 layer switch tape mod
Right: Magnetic Jade Switch

My thoughts: Jesus so buttery smooth after using the switch tape mod. Idk if it’s a placebo but I can feel the travel distance is shorter on these. Sounds a lot better in person imo.

[polar girder]

Yeah jades bring little clacky to the HE game

Good sounding switch for sure

Your lekkers do sound good also. Good job.

[untold wigeon]

Thank you

Yea the jades a big upgrade ngl I love em

[brazen ivy]

Beats the raptorsteins with leker stems ya reckon?

[untold wigeon]

Personally haven’t tried the raptors so I can’t really say

[brazen ivy]

That's the best sounding Clip I've heard yet, very nice

[untold wigeon]

thank you

[fading silo]

Anyone know of a EU site where I can buy O-rings for burger Mount? So far all I’ve found is overseas, China and Japan, and I’m not too keen spending 30-40 USD shipping for a few-dollar item😂 Thanks in advance!

[brazen ivy]

I believe I found a site in the UK charging £11... I'll find it if you want

[gaunt linden]

Does someone know how to save profiles ?

Or change them from the keyboard so there is no need to use wootility?

[bronze grove]

Drag them up from the inactive list. Hit save.

[brazen ivy]

Btw gotta ask, you using the ax longpole stabs. Greasing them/lubing the switches?

[untold wigeon]

im using the stabs that the wooting came with. didnt have to lube the jades, i did the holee mod on the stabs

[brazen ivy]

Ohh right yeah I guess I guess I'll save myself some money then and just do that 👍

[fading silo]

Yes that could be an option!

[true patrol]

the real question is when are we going to get a hall effect 40%

my productivity at work would go up exactly 0% but the cool factor would be there
like just think about it...the best performing gaming board on the market, but without any number row for people who actually game...it's genius

[static tendon]

You don't use the number row while gaming?

[brazen ivy]

No dice yet I will get back to you on that

[neon harbor]

60he just knocked on my door, do I lube my switches or are they fine?

[bronze grove]

Try them and get a feel?

[true patrol]

No I'm saying a 40 wouldn't have the numbers, which people use when gaming

[true patrol]

this
lubing takes a long ass time and while it can have some amazing effects, you should make sure you actually want to go through it
a lot of people are just happy with it stock

[fading silo]

Much appriciated🤝

[placid field]

does this switch puller work for wooting?

[bronze grove]

Should work.

[pulsar citrus]

hello, does someone have tofu60 redux anodized mocha case ? i have found this one but before i order i wanna be sure this is the right one

[placid field]

alr i gotta use it cuw i feel like https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1197449324989272154

its only my w switch that makes that sound smh

[hearty sierra]

someone posted one in here earlier

[hearty sierra]

@pulsar citrus here is one

[pulsar citrus]

oh thanks ! 🙂

[glacial wind]

really nice color case. Don't see many of that color

[pulsar citrus]

i'm ordering mocha case i love it

[hearty sierra]

yeah its super nice

[pulsar citrus]

this is my first time in keyboard modding, do i need one of those plates ?

[hearty sierra]

you dont need one no

but if you want one of those materials u can get one

[formal comet]

only if you want to replace the steel plate that came with your 60HE

[neon harbor]

feels really good, creamy smoothiness, not sure how to explain it but for now not gonna lube anything, great factory job

[formal comet]

or the PC one that came with your module if you got that

[neon harbor]

really happy with the switch from the corsair, also the size - potato sized, finally have some space on my desk

[hearty sierra]

definitely get the brass weight though

[pulsar citrus]

yes i have checked the box for the Brass weight bar, i'm just gonna upgrade my wooting order by adding the PC plate i think

[wet hazel]

I have one mocha case, the color is like cooper but less "red" more towards brown/gold? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1197157649498767370/PXL_20240117_131126571-01.jpg?ex=65ba3ef1&is=65a7c9f1&hm=108637f1a26b2a836459f46b1dfe208e2bb9166f79eefd268bfd50421a0323f1&

I mean, depends of the light

[formal comet]

that is a nice-ass colour

[pulsar citrus]

i love the color, thanks 🙂

i'm browsing some keycaps to fit the mocha case, if someone have suggestions to look at

[wet hazel]

In my case i'll use some grey keycaps, more or less like my laptop, but there are better color combinations

https://www.yunzii.com/products/yunzii-coffe-cat-keycap-set

For example(?)

[formal comet]

I like the WoB example above

you could also go with something blue-ish maybe?

or GMK tiramisu

[pulsar citrus]

i like the one above too, i'll look GMK tiramisu

woaah !

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-tiramisu

[marble shuttle]

bro why did you deleted @pale aspen 🤣

[bronze grove]

#archived_keebs_talk
Already mentioned here. 🙂
(And a more appropriate channel for that)

[marble shuttle]

true right

[bronze grove]

Not trying to silence anyone here. Just some basic housekeeping 😄

[marble shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/kisses-cow-love-lips-big-lips-gif-5244789227251066269

[spiral canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/shipment-maid-sweeping-clean-up-anime-gif-17688111

[placid field]

is the jade switch lighter than the l45

[glacial wind]

Nah, jades are roughly 50g or so bottom out

[placid field]

i just want sone switches that are like 55g 😭 my fingers 2 fat

are then orange gaterons good?

[spiral canyon]

Ok, I think? They are 38~50g, between L45 and L60s

[glacial wind]

honestly most of the mid range ones are in that 50-55g range. Jades, raptors, orange dual rail are all roughly 50-52g maybe

that's pretty close to 55g

[spiral canyon]

Why not L60s then? They are 45~60

[untold wigeon]

lubing used to be a massive deal back when companies didnt care for lubing

these days most switches are like 95% perfect direct from factory lol

akkos v3 pro line is a good example

[fluid ravine]

Send me that in my dms

So I don’t have to find it later when I’m out of school

[hearty sierra]

if anyone has the black coiled cable from wooting, could u send some pics pls

would like to see how it looks setup

[placid field]

whats the l45 operation force?

and is jade lighter or heavier than l45?

[glacial wind]

we answered already. Jade is heavier but not by much

L45 = 45 end force. Jades are like 50-52 end force, somewhere around there

[placid field]

alr ty

mb!!

[restive python]

Quick qustsion are the Durock v2 stabs compatible with the 60he+ module? should be right?

[marble shuttle]

yeah

[thorny warren]

Hey guys! Ordered my keeb finally. Would any of you recommend the PC plate as an extra if I’m gonna be modding a little?

Sorry if that questions been asked a lot

[restive python]

thinking of doing the holee mod u think its worth?

[marble shuttle]

ofcourse @restive python

[restive python]

did u do it?

[marble shuttle]

i did stock wooting stabs

[stray tiger]

Don't think it's worth it

[weak inlet]

just got my 60HE module but c is not wiorking

working

[restive python]

no?

[marble shuttle]

depends on you try it if you like it dont touch it

[restive python]

ye its prob personal prefrence ig

[marble shuttle]

👍

[restive python]

@marble shuttle did u do the tape mod?

[weak inlet]

just recieved my 60he module but my C switch is not working

[marble shuttle]

yes i did

[weak inlet]

tried even another

what should i do

[marble shuttle]

didnt change anything tbh @restive python

[restive python]

ok good to know cause i was thinking of doing it

[bronze grove]

Unplug and then plug back in, wait a few seconds.

[restive python]

i dont know i watched a ton of vids on wooting modding and i dont really know what to do hahah

and whats worth yk

[weak inlet]

ok thx a lot i works now

[bronze grove]

[quick gulch]

Does anyone know if kbdfans Rakka has an sh1 connector for a daughter board. Looks like the original gb did

[whole charm]

Does anyone know if the gateron double rails are going to work with the wooting? https://www.keychron.com/products/gateron-double-rail-magnetic-switch?variant=40784600694873

[devout torrent]

these are gateron ks-37Bs so no

wait for gateron to release the KS-20U on aliexp or their website

those will be compatible

should be after chinese new year

so next month

[whole charm]

Great! Thanks. Maybe one day the HE PCB/switch world will be straightforward

[weak inlet]

Wooting60he module arrived and next week ill have case for it and also new mousepad so ill move the pad to compliment the cable so i can use my small cable holder on my table but so far the wooting with lekker45 is crazy good keyboard

even stock this keyboard is amazing

[white solar]

Guys, opinion on lubing Magnetic Jades?

[untold wigeon]

No need to ^

[white solar]

Heard something like that, but Lekkers?

[untold wigeon]

Lekkers will benefit from hand lubing

[white solar]

Thank you!

[untold wigeon]

No problem man

[restive python]

do the lekker 45s need lubing?

[sudden lark]

prelube is fine for me

[raw thorn]

Anyone know if the kbd fans carbon fibre plate has any compatibility issues with the module

[sudden lark]

also does anyone know if the geon switches need diff stabs i got the wooting screw in ones rn

[restive python]

ty!

[sudden lark]

sound test i made yesterday (my diff acc) its pretty dogshit tho my audio but works #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[stray tiger]

Nope youre good