🔧│keyboard_modding

[glacial wind]

Long pole fits the travel height of the switches. Non long pole doesn’t and has a chance to push keycaps off if they’re loose and you push the sides hard

[sweet cedar]

ohh

thank you

[trail heart]

Hey guys, I’ve never modded a keyboard, changed keycaps or anything of the sort. I just got my wooting 60he and I wanted to change the keycaps. Do I need to find caps for lekker switches or can I use any cap? I saw a YouTuber use cherry mx key caps

[spiral canyon]

Most Cherry/cross stem keycaps will do #🪛│modding_faq message

[mellow beacon]

can anyone link me good stabs for the jades? I actually have no clue what to look for

[normal schooner]

#🪛│modding_faq

[mellow beacon]

ty

wait so I gather that plate mount/clip in/screw in all work on the 60he module but only plate mount works on the 60he

[bronze grove]

Correct.

The regular 60HE's PCB doesn't have the design required to support any installed stabilizers. It's on the plate - plate mount.

The 60HE Module's PCB was slightly redesigned for installing stabs on it, and the PC plate has the holes required as well.

[mellow beacon]

I understand, thanks!!

[pale aspen]

so PC plate has different design from OG steel plate due to mounting hole for screwn in?

[bronze grove]

Yep.

But it also has support for plate mount.

[pale aspen]

hmmm i guess i have to postpone plan for cutting custom plate again

until module arrive

i wish you had pc plate file

[pliant rapids]

anybody got website recomendations for keycaps?

[spiral canyon]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[pliant rapids]

ty

[halcyon obsidian]

module delay

[uncut musk]

it is what it is

[agile grove]

fellow NA-Cloud member 😔

[fierce void]

we got anymore videos of jades?

[uncut musk]

yeah its rough, thankfuly i decided to get the fast shipping so hopefully i get in the first few days of February

[gaunt linden]

No one has gotten their module yet?

[normal schooner]

@void hollow

[void hollow]

on pc its so wierddd

[uncut musk]

nope

[void hollow]

im gonna cry

[pale aspen]

pcb foam?

you mean case or plate foam?

[void hollow]

plate foam = pcb foam

[agile grove]

no one calls it that 🤓

[void hollow]

alright

[gaunt linden]

X2

[fierce void]

I need more videos

[void hollow]

sec lemme find you guys the video

[gaunt linden]

Thxxx

[void hollow]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Videos of Jades vs Lekkers^
@fierce void @gaunt linden

[agile grove]

imo jades kinda just sound like hand lubed lekkers

[void hollow]

they sound really great imo

different people, different sound preferences i guess

[fierce void]

they dont though I have a direct comparison

[agile grove]

I think they sound really good too

just depends on mods I guess tbh

[pale aspen]

ngl i want harsh clacky

use stock lekker lol

[agile grove]

its hard to find a sound test with exactly I wanna do

[pale aspen]

cf plate

[void hollow]

clacky i would think of raptors instead

[void hollow]

just buy them

[agile grove]

lekkers are their own thing imo, they sound a little more thocky to me but overall sound kinda odd

[pale aspen]

raptor is good clack
lekker is ....

[fierce void]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XqOH3ITmBow

[pale aspen]

[fierce void]

direct comparison

[agile grove]

I really wish they had smaller packs so I could test, might see if I can get them for my birthday tho

[void hollow]

ooh, happy birthday in advance

[agile grove]

idkw but the jades sound worse in this video

but sound so much thockier in others??

I wonder what that dudes config is

[sweet cedar]

fr

[pale aspen]

they sell as 10

[fierce void]

I really dont think so

lekkers sound wobbly and janky

lekkers need to burn in hell

[void hollow]

i want jades but i cant afford them rn so

[pale aspen]

gateron poison wooting since the begining

[sweet cedar]

idk what was up with that video it sounded much worse then every other vid ive seen

[agile grove]

I mean specifically in that video, I've heard them sound amazing

[pale aspen]

this is only explaination

[fierce void]

weird I liked it

[agile grove]

not for me. are you in the US?

[pale aspen]

asia

i use taobao

[void hollow]

checked aliexpress?

[agile grove]

I felt like they sounded clackier and maybe even clicky tbh.

[pale aspen]

rule of thumb

always search ali

[void hollow]

real

[agile grove]

they have them on ali but they're kinda pricy

[pale aspen]

what funny is Amazon/Etsy is reseller of Ali and Ali is reseller of Taobao

[agile grove]

lemme check shipping rq

[pale aspen]

for dyesbut set it is $30 Amazon / $20 Ali / $10 on Taobao

[pale aspen]

probably slow tho

ali is known for that

[agile grove]

I did also just get christmas money and should be getting money in my account soon

[pale aspen]

here is price of three main HE switches

currency is RMB

[agile grove]

I might just end up buying them myself tbh, but I already bought my module with L60s so kinda a waste of 20 bucks imo

[pale aspen]

imo Raptor is bang for buck and still has full travel for versatile DKS

[agile grove]

true but I prefer thock

[pale aspen]

deep one

imo thock is much easier to get than clack

foamm

[agile grove]

polyfill*

[pale aspen]

it seem people get ks20u dual rail already

[void hollow]

BEST

[agile grove]

I think my lekkers will do good while I wait for other switches tbh

I really want jades but I'll be so upset if a better switch comes out

[void hollow]

correct

im thinking to sell my l45s actually

will just stick to stock l60s for the moment while i wait for new switches

[agile grove]

probably the best options for our wallets lol

come Q2 this year im sure there will be a ton of HE switches to chose from

[void hollow]

i overspent my allowance for this month already sooo- yeap!

i have the same opinion^

[agile grove]

plus I have a buddy who's willing to help lube my L60s (he already got the lube kit since he and his brother got wootings a few months back. actually the reason im getting a wooting lol)

I've spent the most money ever this year I think

mainly buying games since I met some new people and didnt share any games with them

[void hollow]

wooting ruined me

i dont think i could ever touch a keychron ever again

[pale aspen]

eh it is different kind

i still need tactile for typing

typing on linear

[gaunt linden]

But aren’t they better since no stem wobble?

[agile grove]

imo steam wobble really isnt the biggest issue

[polar girder]

All POM box stem ay yoooo

[fierce void]

yup yup like my GMK Darling set, except they have a pbt darling now

[gaunt linden]

What is that

[gaunt linden]

Jades dont have a full travel right?

Also the new ks-20’s have doble side rails now?

[pale aspen]

where

[pale aspen]

3.6

dua rail yep

[polar girder]

https://m.kailhswitch.com/mechanical-keyboard-switches/magnetic-keyboard-switch.html

[bronze grove]

They remind me of Noctua. But in a knock-off kind of way visually.

[gaunt linden]

Is that better?

[bright spruce]

they still have the hole so gonna sound dogshit

[bright spruce]

yes

more stable

[sharp yew]

lmao the noctua of switches

[polar girder]

https://m.kailhswitch.com/Content/upload/pdf/202315927/CPG1515M01D01-data-sheet.pdf?rnd=475

Details lol

[polar girder]

What hole?

Hole for the magnet/stem or hole for the RGB pass through?

[bright spruce]

magnet hole

[polar girder]

I think that hole is pretty necessary lol

[gaunt linden]

Do you have a link?

[bright spruce]

the new jades dont have the hole lol

[bright spruce]

use common sense bruh

[polar girder]

Oh wow

Gross

[gaunt linden]

Thank you

[polar girder]

Plastic between the magnet and PCB?

Auto skip the jades for me

[stray tiger]

The Kailh switches have been known for a while. They actually have 2 switch models

Kailh Sakura Pink Magnetic and Kailh Ice Cream Magnetic

[sharp yew]

can huano make some magnetics

[stray tiger]

With HE switches now available from gateron, raesha, kailh, heijn, zenaim, akko and one other company, I think its safe to assume that most other companies will jump on board as well (assuming Gateron loses their patent claim filing)

[gaunt linden]

Bc the dual rail ones are the 2.0 version and are not sold separatelly, they come with the holy60 thing

[pale aspen]

they sold separately

just out of stock for now

[pallid echo]

done, just gotta let it dry!

[bronze grove]

[pallid echo]

i am planning to pair it with gmk sumi caps and a custom strap

should be endgame hopefully LOL

[loud zephyr]

Looking gooood! I dream of this case in alu with gasket mount. Such a sleeper design

[stable kindle]

@pallid echo you do primer first? Or a light sand?

Looks great though!

[pallid echo]

light sand, i used a green scotchbrite pad with light pressure to scuff it a little before paint!

the paint i used included primer in it tho so there is that too haha

[pallid echo]

it really is a good design! i didn’t want to buy another redux case for a white build as well and got inspired by fedegamer

[bright spruce]

oooooooh u wanted the link to them? I thought u wanted a link where it says dual rails is better bruh sry

I dont have link

[stable kindle]

I know the can doesn't say but usually the primer + paint is for prepainted surfaces. The primer in the combo cans don't do a good job on a virgin surface. I've tested plastics like PVC, pla, etc... with different combinations of sanding, primer, paint, and for sure sand+ primer+ paint/primer was the most durable. but I haven't tried the test on abs. Hopefully what you did will hold up cause it looks 10/10

[pallid echo]

didn’t know that part but hopefully yeah it holds up LOL

i put a matte clear coat over it to help with durability since i heard that helps

also to help hide some of the small mistakes i made since this was my first time spray painting something

[stable kindle]

yeah it will help to a degree. good idea for matte to hide mistakes !

i think if you got a wrist pad it will help a lot too so you wont be touching the case. i suspect if your paint does flake, it will delaminate where the palms of your hands rest on the keyboard

@pallid echoif you havent taken off the tape yet

either take the tape off before the paint fully dries

or make sure to score the tape along the edge before removing. else the tape can take parts of the paint with it

ive made this mistake a couple of times

[pallid echo]

let me get started on that then

thanks for the heads up

almost perfect, got a little paint overhand on the top, any tips on how to take that off without damaging the other paint?

[bronze grove]

A sharp knife and very careful cutting?

[pallid echo]

welp i expected that to be the answer i just didn’t want to risk messing it up lol

here goes nothing

[stable kindle]

looks great dude

made wootings first white plastic case

[stray tiger]

Should be pretty easy honestly

[stable kindle]

patent it

[craggy viper]

Aren't those for the akko

[pallid echo]

ok i cut it pretty easy

just time to get the keycaps and we are set

[stable kindle]

lucky

[craggy viper]

I was taking my nap did I do somethin

[stable kindle]

wooting still has my money and module and mansen wont help me

[harsh dove]

Necessary for what exactly?

[polar girder]

PCB/Magnet

I can’t imagine a piece of plastic between the two enhances “signal”

[harsh dove]

It doesn’t affect it

[polar girder]

I mean it’s not blocking it but it’s preventing the magnet from touching it

[pallid echo]

would it be a bad idea to purchase more gmk sets if i use my kb for gaming? i heard some stuff about shine but never experienced it myself

[polar girder]

Idk if it normally would or not tho I guess

[native shuttle]

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/dopamine-cherry-profile-keycaps-set anyone know if the price means $23 for the entire set? doesnt sound right

[harsh dove]

Hall effects do not rely on physical contact

Which is what makes them far better than traditional mechanical keyboard switches

[polar girder]

Maybe the plastic is why it can’t get 4.0

But yeah gotcha

Not really interfering then

[pallid echo]

a big upgrade imo

[polar girder]

Raptors good

Lekkers mid

I’ve had, l60, l45 and raptors

[frosty sentinel]

My space bar sounds scratchy after lubing.. and I can’t figure out why

[pallid echo]

u can also turn the raptors into frankenswitches with the lekker stems but it’s personal preference

[frosty sentinel]

I’ve taken it apart 4 times

[pallid echo]

either way is good tho

[polar girder]

Currently rocking the frakenlekker with the l45 stem/spring.

[crystal ibex]

does the lekker stem only reduce wobble on raptor?

wonder if the stock rapotor is good enough

[polar girder]

The Lekktor 45’s as I like to call them

Stock raptor good

[crystal ibex]

so to clarify stem change only improves wobble right

[polar girder]

Idk about only

But def mostly

It sounds different for sure

[crystal ibex]

yea id reword it to mostly

[polar girder]

But stock raptors are sweet

No reason to buy both if you don’t already have the lekkers

[craggy viper]

i love my stock jades

[polar girder]

Just fun experiment if you already have them

I’m probably going to get another HE switch at some point tho

I don’t love the raptors

They’re good but not perfect

IMO

[craggy viper]

are u going to try out the 2.0 orange switches

[polar girder]

idk I’ll probably just wait a while until a bunch drop

Don’t feel like buying everyone as they drop lol

[craggy viper]

i ordered some but i wont know how they would sound (got it with a holy60 preorder)

[polar girder]

Oh nice

Hopefully they sound good cuz that case won’t do them any favors lol

[craggy viper]

but switch wise if u want a good sound profile get the gatteron jades

u dont even need to mod the stock wooting with it and itll sound good still @polar girder

[quiet bay]

seems like it is the entire set since there's no other option

[craggy viper]

it looks right for all 131 keys

its just a run of the mill pbt keycaps

and not overpriced abs keycaps

[harsh dove]

Stock Jades FTW

[quiet bay]

I'm going to redo my switch tape mod but more thoroughly this time

Be back in.....7+ hours.....

[craggy viper]

this is my scuffed sound test

[untold wigeon]

just buy another switch?!

[craggy viper]

but the only change on my stock wooting is the jades

thats the crazy part

[quiet bay]

im broke

[craggy viper]

me buying just jades to make the wooting sound better vs the ppl spending over 600 and it still sounds mediocre

[quiet bay]

must do budget and time consuming way

[craggy viper]

and they still need to tape mod and foam

[untold wigeon]

ye literally LOL

[craggy viper]

gatteron jades are pretty cheap

for what they are

[untold wigeon]

i dont think cheap is the right word for this but tehnically you are right

[craggy viper]

cheat code for better sound

[untold wigeon]

considering they destroy even tape modded and lubed up lekkers

[craggy viper]

good value

[wet hazel]

Those are genuine? Cheaper than the first I saw on Ali, also free shipping

[untold wigeon]

time is money

[wet hazel]

That JYBMAK thingy, ugh

[untold wigeon]

get them from gaterons official store

[craggy viper]

those are genuine but u can buy them direct from gatteron

[untold wigeon]

they have one

on ali

[wet hazel]

Ah, didn't know

[craggy viper]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magic-jade-switch?VariantsId=10767

well its 56 usd on their usa website

sound wise yes

raptors are better than the standard lekker (l45/l60) and gatteron ks20s but not better than jades

same perf and the jades are a 30gf spring

just bottoms out sooner

lekkers performance within each others are very mariginal

[untold wigeon]

the problem i have with the raptors is they are still quite spendy and do not fix the main issue i have with the lekkers fully

[craggy viper]

lighter

[untold wigeon]

they are lighter i think

btw jade owners are they too light?

that is a point of concern

[craggy viper]

u get used to it

[untold wigeon]

i only ever used 60-90g switches before and thats what im used to

[craggy viper]

if its too light just do a spring swap

[untold wigeon]

true

for gaming its better for sure

but for typing remains to be seen

[craggy viper]

same starting weight 30gf but the jades end at 37g and not 45

[craggy viper]

i love typing on them feels like typing on butter

eventually ill lube them and put 68 grams springs in it

i could be lazy and steal the 40gf starting - 60gf end springs from the l60s

[untold wigeon]

that was my plan but the lekker springs are shit

they need a lot of lube at the bottom to sound good

[craggy viper]

it shouldnt matter on the jades

bc the closed off pom housing

[untold wigeon]

taking apart 141 switches is quite annoying too

[craggy viper]

true

[untold wigeon]

its nylon housing iirc

[craggy viper]

thats why u only take off 60

[untold wigeon]

why do so many people care abt RGB

[craggy viper]

disable rgb is always better

if u want performance

wasnt that what u cared about?

just sayin

[untold wigeon]

ye but rgb itself still works

with it

you just can do effects

like AOE

[craggy viper]

rgb off > rgb

[untold wigeon]

right now i do have rgb with aoe but i do swap between rgb off and aoe rgb a lot

[craggy viper]

i feel like the raptor hes would have a weird tint

since the housing is orange

[cyan summit]

ngl aoe is the best fx imo

[untold wigeon]

its the only one i use

i feel like its a proper way to flex the hall effect switches

as no other razer or corsair pleb can do AOE properly

[cyan summit]

like I haven't been friends with any other fx, maybe jelly but not that much

yes.

unless they are really really good abs so no rgb shines through but that might not be the case

[uncut musk]

Rgb overrated ngl

[cyan summit]

yea just saying

and the wear when using abs is horrible aswell

especially on white

[native shuttle]

https://www.amazon.com/Profile-Sublimation-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0B24JM67H/ref=sr_1_18?crid=2ZA8C5MZ04O17&keywords=pbt%2Bkeycaps&qid=1704317796&sprefix=pbt%2Bkeycap%2Caps%2C297&sr=8-18&th=1 would these keycaps work on the 60HE+ Module?

[quiet bay]

Yes

[quiet bay]

Yes

Although pretty sure both of them dont have iso compatibility

iso is not too pretty xd

[native shuttle]

but for ansi its sweet? will fit nice?

[quiet bay]

Ye for ansi its good

[polar girder]

Jades are lighter than l45?

Fk

I need jades

[native shuttle]

tyty

im fairly new here, pbt or abs?

gmk seems out of my league atm haha

[polar girder]

PBT

[sweet cedar]

pbt for budget

gmk for top end

[pallid echo]

does anyone know any pbt sets that look similar to gmk sumi?

[sweet cedar]

but there r also some pretty high end pbt sets

[pallid echo]

would u guys get gmk for a board that would be primarily used for gaming? i heard it can shine really fast

[sweet cedar]

i did

[craggy viper]

they look good

[pallid echo]

hmmmm might just commit to gmk sumi then

maybe i’ll like it whenever it shines but it will probably be a long long time

[sweet cedar]

u can polish them if u want

but abs and pbt both shine

just at different rates

[craggy viper]

gmk feels nicer imo

also novel keys has a sale for gmk keycaps

b2 get 1 free base set

[sweet cedar]

ive only tried one gmk set but i can say it is much much higher quality then anything else ive tried

[pallid echo]

u guys convinced me

[native shuttle]

anyone got any gateron dot com coupon codes? xD

[pallid echo]

i don’t use my gmk strikers as much for gaming but i’ll give it a try too

[untold wigeon]

pbtfans is also shit and loses texture which makes the keycap feel like shit

[sharp yew]

just got the jades, now to wait for wooting to ship my plate

[untold wigeon]

mine did that on the wasd keys in 3 months

considering GMK actually shines the whole keycap and doesn't have half good and half bad like mine are, I'd say it's more durable

and better to use once it's fucked

[native shuttle]

https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Crystal-Stabilizer-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0BZYK3X1S?ref_=ast_sto_dp will these be needed for the 60HE + Module as they dont come with any stabilisers?

[old swallow]

the module does come with stabilizers

[native shuttle]

oh gotcha, fine to just use stock ones? - I'm clearly very new to this hobby haha

[fluid ravine]

oh shiet

[untold wigeon]

the sad part is that stock wooting just with those jades outperforms my tofu60redux with lubed l60s

[craggy viper]

U know when jades are good when it's on a stock wooting

[craggy viper]

Pein

[untold wigeon]

i ordered the jades but i was expecting this

[old swallow]

well, no one has gotten them in hand, so its hard to say, but probably fine to use the stock ones

[untold wigeon]

ever since i was opening up these switches

[craggy viper]

Btw my jades aren't lubed @untold wigeon they feel as smooth as ink blacks

[untold wigeon]

i knew no matter how much money you spend it will be shit

[untold wigeon]

i know

[craggy viper]

Maybe oil kings

[untold wigeon]

CAM opened some of these up

they are properly lubed

from the factory

[craggy viper]

Sheesh

[untold wigeon]

thats why they are so expensive im guessing

[fluid ravine]

yep

[untold wigeon]

most people dont realize how big of an achievement this is

[fluid ravine]

fr

[untold wigeon]

it makes even the discounted L45s with the module look like a ripoff imo

[fluid ravine]

Like the prelube from the factory is majorly improved comparing to what it was before

[untold wigeon]

there might be a 3x price difference but the sound is atleast 10 times better

[fluid ravine]

now we got the most solid sounding HE switch in the market atm

guys i promise i will buy a new set of HE switches in the future

[untold wigeon]

mine are coming i guess

[craggy viper]

55 usd isn't that bad

[fluid ravine]

On my toes

1.25 per switch

[untold wigeon]

i paid 79 for them because of VAT and shit

[marsh saffron]

Im Canadian so id probably pay 100$

[fluid ravine]

💀

[marsh saffron]

If not more

[fluid ravine]

hundo ius crazzzyyy

[untold wigeon]

budget america

[fluid ravine]

ima actually wait for more releases of HE switches

decide lator

[untold wigeon]

you know now that i think about it

sound wise

[marsh saffron]

That's what I'm doing

[untold wigeon]

ceramic keycaps would go pretty fucking well with these jades

[fluid ravine]

o

marbly

thats what im thikning of

[untold wigeon]

ceramic keycaps make your keyboard instantly way more deep

[craggy viper]

.80 per for me

[craggy viper]

I might use alu mizus

[untold wigeon]

i was looking at cerakeys but they are out of stock

[fluid ravine]

how much is it again?

[untold wigeon]

and the light springs on the jades will create issues

cerakeys is cheaper than GMK believe it or not

[craggy viper]

56 usd for 70 switches

[craggy viper]

Oh i know

[untold wigeon]

the legends will fade tho

[fluid ravine]

how you get .80

[craggy viper]

But I can get 3x gmk sets for 300

[untold wigeon]

so it's best to just buy them blanks

[craggy viper]

56 usd / 70 switches

[untold wigeon]

at NK?

[fluid ravine]

oh fk

i did 70/56

[craggy viper]

1.8 switches per $

[fluid ravine]

now im lost

lol

[craggy viper]

For every 1.8 switches u get a $1

[fluid ravine]

m

[craggy viper]

That's what u did

[fluid ravine]

lost again pt 2

[craggy viper]

X/y = x per y
Y/x = y per x

Bc u divided the amount of switches per dollar

[fluid ravine]

i shouldve not tooken cs
made me brain dead

[craggy viper]

Over dollar per switch

[untold wigeon]

you have any stab issues with the jades?

[craggy viper]

Nope

[untold wigeon]

good

[craggy viper]

No issues

[craggy viper]

If u have issues just take a l60 switch spring and swap it in

[untold wigeon]

nah i meant is it wobbly and shit

as this acts like a long pole switch

[craggy viper]

No wobble

[untold wigeon]

i will change out to the module so considering the 20 bucks it might be worth it to get some tx long pole stabs

[fluid ravine]

Yeah im thinking of spring swapping the 60 grams into my future HE set

prefer 60-65 grams

[craggy viper]

I got used to 30 bc of thr yuki aim keeb

[fluid ravine]

mm

[craggy viper]

I'm sad that the 80he case isn't standardized

[untold wigeon]

it wont matter as its gasket mounted

you won't case swap it

no matter what

[old swallow]

tbf tho, is there a standard 75%/TKL?

[untold wigeon]

no

[craggy viper]

Not really

But I like a dif case

[old swallow]

so how could it be standardized?

[untold wigeon]

not really possible

[craggy viper]

I can cope

[old swallow]

haha fair

[sharp yew]

so how does 80he case branding look

actually its a little more subtle than the 60he

[craggy viper]

I just want a more blocky modern look

[stray tiger]

75% and TKL doesnt have a standard. There are a few common PCB layouts but you run into commonality problems when you consider the F row (F13 or no F13?, knob or no knob, stacked F keys or spaced F keys) and thats before you event start talking about USB port placement, daughter board or no daughterboard, etc etc

I mean there isnt even a standard that says TKL should have 87 keys or 88 keys.

[old swallow]

maybe you dont know, idk how much info you know as woothelp, but why doesnt the 80HE include a knob, that is a pretty popular feature right?

[craggy viper]

Where's my knob

And usb pass-through

[old swallow]

WHERES MY KNOB WOOTING????? nah, i dont care too much for knobs

[fluid ravine]

bro owns a million keyboard 😭

To me Pops knows everything :)

[stray tiger]

I think knobs are great but I also don't think they are mainstream yet. I'd guess less than 10% of the mech keyboard market sales have a knob. For sure less than 20%.

[old swallow]

hmm, maybe not as popular as i tought, i tought it was becoming more and more common, kinda like you start to see with screens now

[willow bronze]

Knob is so 2020

these days it's 65xl

[old swallow]

WHERES MY GODDAMN SCREEN WOOTING

hehe

[stray tiger]

If knobs are an important and popular feature, I'm sure Wooting will adopt it or do something even better.

[loud zephyr]

forget knobs, I need a switch to turn my brain on and off

[old swallow]

you can turn that on, mines just off by default

[loud zephyr]

[craggy viper]

Why not a bongo cat screen

[old swallow]

the real inovation wooting needs

[stray tiger]

e-ink is the new hotness

[loud zephyr]

sweet fanny adams - das crazy!

[craggy viper]

I need bongo cat to play the bongos when I type

[stray tiger]

e-ink that can show you system stats

[old swallow]

thats how you become pro gamer. no one cares about rapid trigger, give me bongo cat

[craggy viper]

Exactly

Bongo cat gives free performance

[stray tiger]

or

[willow bronze]

2nd

[willow bronze]

i need me a pc kohaku, i will beg elaine daily

[craggy viper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/I9jPaA4zdNs?si=o9tYrIQCnZWqAOUq

No this

[loud zephyr]

The real and one and only Bongo cat

[willow bronze]

ayo wtf i need that

[loud zephyr]

mf are so hard to win lel

[craggy viper]

Satisfaction 75 has bongo cat

And a knob

[willow bronze]

i love paying 80$ a pop for artisans

[craggy viper]

https://cannonkeys.com/collections/satisfaction-75

[willow bronze]

[harsh dove]

Was gonna say the raptors have some wobble still compared to Jades

[loud zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/dh9511dh-empty-wallet-hurt-look-away-gif-13355852

[harsh dove]

Like I’ve said before Jades are like stem swapped Raptors but without the friction feel

And sound better

[willow bronze]

hope its soon

[untold wigeon]

stop buying keyboards

easy

right?

[willow bronze]

[untold wigeon]

[harsh dove]

No

[untold wigeon]

ight

[harsh dove]

I love it personally

Like I’m typing on a cloud combined with my salvation

[untold wigeon]

my jades are on the way

[loud zephyr]

Jades perfect for gaming but dull for typing imo

need an inbetweener

[wind karma]

why

[loud zephyr]

light springs

[harsh dove]

I actually find myself typing faster on the jades

[wind karma]

oh typing

ye 30 grams or somehting

[loud zephyr]

no rebound, no soul

[wind karma]

i use 40 gram springs rn and the rebound is kind of weak and it makes me feel lazy to play sometimes lol

[harsh dove]

lol on Jades I’m getting like avg 120 wpm while on raptors and lekkers I was like 90-100 wpm

[wind karma]

may swap the jades ones out if i do get them

[wind karma]

damn thats nice

[loud zephyr]

ya give em a try - very nice

[wind karma]

45g is my sweet spot i think

[craggy viper]

I'm thinking of putting the l60 springs in them

[old swallow]

damn, thats quite the difference

[stray tiger]

This guy is a member of my local keeb community and made some awesome knobby boards

[craggy viper]

30g springs is nice but want more

[stray tiger]

Or just the pad

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mean, I didn’t do super thorough testing , I could just be typing better one day lol but I felt like I could type faster and more comfortably on the Jades

[loud zephyr]

nice details on the knob

[untold wigeon]

knob enthusiast

😳

[loud zephyr]

never

[craggy viper]

I'm used to 68g springs on pandas

But the jades exp is satisfying

[harsh dove]

I’ve tried knob boards but I never find myself utilizing them fully with the audio setup I have

[untold wigeon]

same

[craggy viper]

If I could buy a 70g spring on the jades I will

[lucid swan]

i love seeing keycaps ill never be able to have thanks to nobody caring about iso

[loud zephyr]

what keycaps, maybe not looking hard enough?

[craggy viper]

70g tho?

[untold wigeon]

think so

[lucid swan]

i spent at least 2 hours every day of the last week looking through keycaps

i settled for blanks

cause i couldnt do it anymore

[loud zephyr]

rookie numbers, try 24 whilst in a hot tub sipping your favorite red wine

[lucid swan]

im still open for suggestions tho

the blanks were like 45€

[loud zephyr]

blanks are goated but I've yet to try em

[lucid swan]

so if i see a good looking iso (preferably de) set ill get them

but im not spending 145 for a set and then 70 more for international layout

[harsh dove]

I need a good set of blanks

But I want them to cost $200+

Not $35

[lucid swan]

erm what the flip chat

[untold wigeon]

try cerakeys too

those are ceramic tho

[loud zephyr]

I know the perfect solution: POM blanks from a Das Keyboard 2. Aftermarket is around $300

[harsh dove]

Yeah I don’t wanna use cerakeys

[untold wigeon]

link me up

[harsh dove]

Hmmm

[lucid swan]

its crazy that not even german keycap manufacturers care about iso de

[loud zephyr]

mechmarket is your only hope, the last I saw was $400usd but with the whole kb. fk that

[lucid swan]

anyone got experience with akko keycaps?

[untold wigeon]

considering the gear i own, $400 isnt that bad except this is for keycaps

[harsh dove]

https://ranked.gg/products/premium-blanks-pbt-keycaps

Here some cheap blanks

[loud zephyr]

I don't think I've really heard a bad thing about Akko, just an honest and affordable brand, I guess. Worth a try if the price is up your alley

[untold wigeon]

that is dangerously cheap

[harsh dove]

lol I know but it had good reviews

[untold wigeon]

considring how my experience is for pbtfans pbt, its concerning

[harsh dove]

I personally hate how cheap it is

[untold wigeon]

ye its a bit concerning

[harsh dove]

Just asking for a warped spacebar

Or injection marks

[untold wigeon]

they support 7u and split shift too

[loud zephyr]

No manufacturer is immune to faults though, even GMK mid 2023 had plenty of reports of twisted stems on the bottom row caps. About 16 designs had these issues

[untold wigeon]

my pbtfans 7u spacebar is warped

[harsh dove]

Oh 1,000%, I know all too well of reputable mfgs that make mistakes

Really comes down to how a company handles a situation

Everyone makes mistakes, what matters is how you handle it

[untold wigeon]

Bought the jades, excited to try them out 👍🏻

[harsh dove]

They suck refund them

[untold wigeon]

Fr?

I heard some sound tests on YouTube, they sounded pretty good to me

[harsh dove]

I was gonna keep going but nah they’re good

Just messin around

[untold wigeon]

hahaha

I def prefer their sound over the raptors

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[untold wigeon]

Raptors too high pitched for me

[old swallow]

hows the RGB with the Jades? cause it looks pretty clear right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s clear

[fluid ravine]

leans a little bit to the blue

not crazy tho

[harsh dove]

RGB is normal

[untold wigeon]

nobody buy them, only me

[harsh dove]

Essentially

[fluid ravine]

lets just say 99% clear

[old swallow]

damn, now idk if i should get them, i use blue RGB anyway haha

[untold wigeon]

Is factory lube good on them?

yes

[mental salmon]

That is what I am using now in the wooting, they will shine but the color is good, the other set I have is from drop

[harsh dove]

You’ll be fine

[untold wigeon]

Hellll yeaaaa less work for me

[harsh dove]

This is RGB with Raptors

[old swallow]

well, its also the fact i have L60s im not gonna use, and ive got L45's im not gonna use then. but hmmmm

i dont love the stem woble on the lekkers....

[untold wigeon]

Finally won’t have to use the switch tape mod once I get the jades

[harsh dove]

Get Jades then you don’t have to worry about stem wobble, stem swap, or switch tape mod

Tbh don’t even have to worry about lube

But I always enjoy a good hand lube session

[old swallow]

im not gonna lube regardless...

[fluid ravine]

same

[harsh dove]

Giggity

[stray tiger]

CAM how scratchy are the raptors with stem swap?

[peak breach]

can you show us a pic of rgb with the jades?

[frosty sentinel]

RGB is slightly offf, but not bad

[harsh dove]

If you’re as sensitive as I am , you’ll feel the friction and ill assume you won’t like it

[frosty sentinel]

I can upload a picture with all white, but the picture doesnt help much tbh

[harsh dove]

I want my stems to fly thru the housing like butter, I don’t want any friction, I don’t want wobble either, but I don’t want it so tight that there’s a sense of friction

[old swallow]

@harsh dove is the magnet just as strong in the Jades as the lekkers, or do you have to change the actuation and what not

[harsh dove]

I haven’t bothered with actuation, I have my WASD on 0.3 and most other keys on 1.2 and 2.0

Feels good to me

[old swallow]

hmmm, ok ok. they do have full range aswell right

[harsh dove]

Raptors it was more noticeable

[untold wigeon]

Since travel on the jades is 3.5 does that mean I have to set actuation differently or am I just bein stupid

[frosty sentinel]

I’d say a hint stronger.. but it’s nit picking

[untold wigeon]

Nvm I think I’m just being stupid

[harsh dove]

0.2 - 3.5mm

[sweet cedar]

so @harsh dove if u set actuation to .1 will it just actuate at .2 instead

[harsh dove]

You can still use 4.0mm

It works just fine

[sweet cedar]

okay great

[harsh dove]

You can also still use 0.1mm

Pretty sure it says that somewhere as well

[old swallow]

damn.... its hard to find anything about the jades to dislike at this point

[harsh dove]

I’d have to find it

[sweet cedar]

just price point compared to other he switches

but still well worth it imo

[old swallow]

well, yeah. that

[sweet cedar]

cant wait for mine to come

i thought they would be last to come for my build but then module got delayed

[old swallow]

i dont really care too much about the sound, dont hear it anyways whilst gaming, but the stem woble does bother me, so this is really making me consider getting them

[pallid echo]

yea i gotta wait a bit to get jades bc i got raptors not too long ago and dont wanna spend another 60-70 dollars

[harsh dove]

I think the price may or may not have to do with the bottom housing and lube jobs? But probably a stretch as I don’t manufacture switches haha so idk the ins and outs of their cost per switch so to speak

[old swallow]

what is the spring weight, i cant find it?

[untold wigeon]

I was gonna cop the raptors just to try them out I’m glad I didn’t lol

[sweet cedar]

prob bc its a bigger difference in design

every he switch before it were very similar

idk tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m not sure what goes into the design cost of the Jades

[old swallow]

this seems like its a step forward in the evolution for HE switches, so yeah.. could have something to do with it

[harsh dove]

But I figure the bottom housing might’ve costed more

[loud zephyr]

They're good but Jade decided to crash the party. I don't think you'd be too disappointed with Rap's imo

[old swallow]

@harsh dove idk where you are from, but do you per chance know where to get them in EU

is there an EU vendor, or do i just have to pay for shipping

[frosty sentinel]

The RGB is set to white, as you can see there is a slight blue hint to them.. the space bar led are for reference

[harsh dove]

Mechkeys?

[untold wigeon]

They just aren’t my sound preference. For anyone else tho I think they would be great

[harsh dove]

Yeah I still like the Raptors but Jades def do it for me

[old swallow]

tbf, the white RGB just has a blue/green hint to it by default

[untold wigeon]

I think I’m just tired of the switch tape mod tbh I love how it gives a deeper sound, but only my WASD has fully broken in lol

[harsh dove]

I mean… if we’re being technical, white RGB isn’t a real thing lol. It’s just a combination of all the colors

Source; put your eye up to your LED

And see how all the colors are lit up

Only way to have a white led is to have actual white LEDs

[old swallow]

mechkeys does have them, but seems pretty expensive. but i found i can get them from gateron own site for 56USD with like 4 shipping

[harsh dove]

But RGB white is always just a combo of all colors

[frosty sentinel]

I’m just saying, there is a difference in color.. y’all don’t have to get technical on me lmao 😂

[harsh dove]

Oh get them from Gateron official then

That’s what I did

[sweet cedar]

^

[harsh dove]

No no no lol not towards you at all. I’m just generally speaking just so people know

[old swallow]

im not him, but because the Jades seem like the better pick is his reasoning it seems

[sweet cedar]

cam what cable do u use

[frosty sentinel]

Hahah I got you, I was just trying to help 😂

[harsh dove]

I use a Lindy x Lemo at home and a Wooting Stealth at work @sweet cedar

[sweet cedar]

does the lindy x lemo work with tachyon mode

those r the two options im considering

[harsh dove]

Help is much appreciated, always good to provide information to peeps

[old swallow]

do you use your wooting at work?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Yes

[old swallow]

getting those spreadsheets typed in with rapid trigger for increased productivity

[harsh dove]

Hahah basically

Also use AI to do my work for me

[old swallow]

if you can then why not lol

[harsh dove]

Just can’t do everything for me sadly

Need those Tesla Robots

[old swallow]

to do your job you mean?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

haha, yeah. i need one of those too

oh, do you know the spring weight for the jades, thats the only thing i cant find clearly?

last question about the switches, promise

well, i ordered the jades, happy now @harsh dove 😉

[harsh dove]

It’s like a 30g switch

[old swallow]

it said 30 +-7 or something like that, so i wasnt completly sure

[harsh dove]

Think the operation force is like 30+-7gf

[round sparrow]

Yeah they light af

[old swallow]

ook yeah

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s like 38 centinewtons

[old swallow]

well, i already prefered to L45s over the L60, so well see

i could always spring swap if needed i guess

[round sparrow]

Hope we get some good competitors to the jades by the time the 80 he releases

[polar girder]

Yeah jades being lighter than l45’s about to make me order them rn

[round sparrow]

No

You have to compensate

Think 0.3 is like 0.1

Probably some more info online tho

Stronger magnet

[fluid ravine]

According to Sno the raptor's magnet is more sensitive

[harsh dove]

And I’m open to questions lol, I won’t bite

[fluid ravine]

but i will

rawr

[harsh dove]

I definitely don’t know everything but I’ll help as much as I can

[old swallow]

ooh yeah, but i was asking so many things

[harsh dove]

I haven’t noticed a difference personally, I noticed it more with Raptors

And I actually lowered my actuation slightly from when I had the Raptors in

From 0.7 to 0.4 now I’m on 0.3

With the Jades

Lmao sure

Nah they just have a stronger magnet

So it bottoms out faster so to speak

[old swallow]

seems kinda stange, setting it lower with the lighter switch, you would think other way around would make more sense

[harsh dove]

Yeah but I’m weird

[old swallow]

ive got 0.5 and 0.3 on WASD

[harsh dove]

Not anymore

They back in their bag

All sad

And unused

Neglected

[old swallow]

are you getting the module too cam?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I am

Yeah

[old swallow]

cause otherwise you have a ton of switches for 1 board lol

[harsh dove]

Tons of HE switches for one HE board

Yes

[old swallow]

yeah, ive got a 60HE and im getting a module too

[harsh dove]

Why 21

[old swallow]

so, atleast it wont be such a waste to have so many switches haha

[harsh dove]

Lmao wtf

Just refund and get Jades

EZ

Refund both

[old swallow]

refund them all

[harsh dove]

Cause Jades

[old swallow]

im on the Jades train now (ignore that i ordered 10 mins ago)

[harsh dove]

And you could wait for the dual rail designs to come out but I don’t feel like they’ll have a distinct sound like the Jades do

[fringe egret]

How long did it take for gateron to ship your jades? I ordered like 6 days ago and still not shipped so im worried about the shipping time aswell

[harsh dove]

I’ll check my invoice

[old swallow]

what would you like more? from as far as i can tell jades are better pretty much every way?

[fringe egret]

tysm

[harsh dove]

They received my payment on the 21st of December and I got shipping confirmation on the 23rd of December

[sweet cedar]

what vid

[old swallow]

i mean... sure i guess

[harsh dove]

Then I got them 5 days later on the 28th

[fringe egret]

gateron.com right?

[harsh dove]

Yessir

I did pay for expedited though

[fringe egret]

did u pay expensive shipping?

[harsh dove]

Yes

Cost me $13

USD

[old swallow]

for me expedited was like 20, and normal 4, so i just went with normal. ill have to wait anyways, since im gonna use them with module. so its not like i need to get them right now

[fringe egret]

i took cheap 10-20 days shipping time, do you think they use that estimate from time of placing order or from when shipped? since now if it's 10 -20 from shipping and not shipped yet i would like to pay more for shipping

[harsh dove]

I would assume it’s taking longer because more people are ordering them now compared to when I got them, they basically were barely released

[fringe egret]

Okay hopefully they ship soon, thanks for ur info

[harsh dove]

When I ordered it said 7 people owned them now it says over 200 people on the site

Fair enough

Raptors are still good

Wooting will probably make a better version though

[old swallow]

202 sold rn on the site

[harsh dove]

With Lekker 2.0

lol fair

[old swallow]

jades are light AF it seems, so it might not be for everyone

[harsh dove]

I’ll be honest though, the light weight didn’t bother me as much as I thought it would

I thought it’d bother me more

But I enjoy them

[old swallow]

i like the lightweight, so i think i will like the jades

otherwise i will have to make some frankenswitches

[harsh dove]

I say that because I heard Calder testing out the new raptors vs Lekkers and notice minor differences

So I’d assume he’s testing just to test but also to check out the competition

And see what they can do to improve their own switch

I think there’s a right time and place for everything

[old swallow]

probably not soon, cause i dont think they want to release new switches until they have a significant improvement

[harsh dove]

Would be cool if they were working on or made new switches with the Wooting80HE

[old swallow]

yeah true, but i dont expect it

imma try 0.4 and 0.2 WASD actuation

ooh, i like it. snappy af, and not really misclicking

yeah, cmon wooting. just make everything better then everyone else

[harsh dove]

I mean they did that with their keyboard and especially their software

So I could see them making a really good switch

[old swallow]

ooh yeah, i was being sarcastic. they make great products, so i wouldnt rule it out. but you cant really complain that their first version of HE switches arent perfect

[polar girder]

I mean the Lekker Switch end goal is in house ideal HE switch production

They just outsource it until they can figure it out

Well it’s been an evolution through multiple suppliers

Gateron could just meet their needs the most adequately

[old swallow]

the fact that lekkers are from gateron could mean that they could offcourse implement parts of the jade design in the lekker switches in the future, so thats something to consider

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mean at the end of the day, the Lekker gets the job done

Just comes down to personal sensitivities to things

Some people are gonna notice the wobble and hate it

Some gamers are just gonna game and be happy

[old swallow]

most gamers dont really care about the smaller issues with the Lekkers, they will only care about its performance

its mostly the enthusiasts that find issues with it

[harsh dove]

And that’s kind of where the line is drawn between someone who just wants a gaming keyboard and someone who wants a custom gaming keyboard aka enthusiasts

[harsh dove]

Yep

[old swallow]

the only "issue" ive got is the wobble, but its not like a massive issue. i would just prefer not to have it, but i can totally live with it

but if i can change it, then why not

[harsh dove]

Yeah

People who came from custom boards tho, typically don’t like the sound of Lekkers or HE switches in general

They put that thock juice in em

[old swallow]

yeah, but thats just something they will have to deal with if they want the best performance

[harsh dove]

Hmm.. Thock Juice

🧃

Need to make a lube brand now

Buy my Thock Juice 205g0

And my Thock Juice Grease

[old swallow]

for gaming, for sure

[old swallow]

i think hes getting drunk on the thocc juice, hes an addict man

[harsh dove]

Tell me you wouldn’t buy some lube and grease kit called Thock Juice

Everyone would buy it lmao

[old swallow]

true

well start a Thock adiction in no time

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[old swallow]

underground thock dealers

[untold wigeon]

The sound profile isn’t my preference. I honestly was just excited there was a new HE switch coming out. Decided to wait for local distribution, not sure if they have that yet either tbh

[harsh dove]

That’ll be Tirade the ThockFather

[untold wigeon]

The 80HE looks reaaaal nice

[old swallow]

its him, the thockfather.

[harsh dove]

He’ll be running Organized Crime with keyboard switches

[untold wigeon]

I like it

[normal schooner]

you guys need some cool switches

[untold wigeon]

60 & TKLs are my go to

[fluid ravine]

is that a question

[old swallow]

if it is, then the answer is YES

[harsh dove]

Cool like menthol switches?

Like when you type you feel a cool minty breeze on your fingertips?

[old swallow]

its just some frozen lekkers

[sage flicker]

what is the new HE switch coming out? nm I think Jacob talking about raptors.

[stray tiger]

New audio interface is here. Hopefully I'll have time to set it up by next week

[harsh dove]

Bros got the midi keys, can make some beats with that haha

I know they aren’t but they look similar

[stray tiger]

lol, probably not but I do think you can set them up for sound effects and voice overlays

[harsh dove]

Oh, really? That'd be fun to mess around with

[polar girder]

Silent Thock core

[willow bronze]

peel it

[quiet bay]

4 hours and 30 minutes passed by redoing switch tape mod before I even knewi t

[normal schooner]

@quiet bay @fluid ravine check general chat voice

[quiet bay]

[woeful gyro]

anybody know if g.skill crystal crowns fit on a wooting 60he in a tofu redux?

[loud zephyr]

They'll work fine

[woeful gyro]

ok

[craggy viper]

Jades dif

[gaunt linden]

When starting my pc, do i have to choose my keyboard’s profile everytime? Or am i doing something wrong?

[fluid ravine]

the cyan is the profiles

You can bind the profiles to Fn layer 1

[untold wigeon]

black pc plate 🗿

[quiet bay]

we had it all along 🗿

[fluid ravine]

[lilac grove]

funny af always a new leak

[quiet bay]

I want to try out an aluminum plate

[harsh dove]

lmao you're welcome

[gaunt linden]

Thank you

[untold wigeon]

says that after i have a CF plate coming 🗿

[quiet bay]

but 🗿

[lilac grove]

cam poking around for some leaks

[untold wigeon]

Vibrates?

[lilac grove]

are we still at keyboards?

[quiet bay]

yes

Aluminum Plate for Wooting off smkeyboards is expensive 😔

so hoping for wooting to make their own so it's less expensive

[sudden talon]

does anyone know if i have to buy this when buying tofu 60 redux

[quiet bay]

You don't have to

[untold wigeon]

u dont

[sudden talon]

THANK YOU

[untold wigeon]

if u have a pc plate just keep it

[sudden talon]

kk thanks

[untold wigeon]

ofc i bought all of them, so don't do what i did

[harsh dove]

Guess I'll be getting a Black PC Plate

[lilac grove]

and which one did you like the most?

[untold wigeon]

pc fr4 and cf are similar

thats why i said not worth it

with the lekker atleast

[lilac grove]

with the normal lekker switch nothing matters

[untold wigeon]

it does

[lilac grove]

was joke

[untold wigeon]

steel is very loud

[lilac grove]

you mean alu

[untold wigeon]

no

https://tenor.com/view/butters-butters-griddy-griddy-gif-27637978

[lilac grove]

where did you get a steel one

[untold wigeon]

the default plate is steel

[harsh dove]

Wooting comes with Steel Plate

[lilac grove]

ups thought its alu messed it up

[polar girder]

Yeah need black pc plate

Or aluminum

[pale aspen]

what issue?

[untold wigeon]

tolerances and still clacky

[pale aspen]

latter one is subjective i see

how about tolerance could you tell more?

[tawdry tree]

kid, you don’t have the raptors right?

[untold wigeon]

no

i do not

[pale aspen]

friendly reminder, stem will wobble a bit for tolerance sake

0% wobble mean you cant make stem move without excessive force

like raptor with stem swap is good example

[untold wigeon]

the sky is blue

[pale aspen]

it is bad switch because it is too tight and require more force to press

just reminder, because sometimes i think newcomers will think "no wobble = good, a biit wobble = bad"

[untold wigeon]

i am not a newcomer

lmao

[pale aspen]

i didnt say you are one

[untold wigeon]

i have 6 keyboards

[pale aspen]

raptor is bang for buck
if you chase clack (unlube)

what are those six?

any 40s?

[tawdry tree]

Which EU store sells Raptors w/o shipping cost of 20million?

[untold wigeon]

eloquentclicks had them

but they were sucked dry

[tawdry tree]

I will buy a few raptors and stem swap them with white ks-20s

Ibwill check

[untold wigeon]

nothing to check

[tawdry tree]

fuck off

[untold wigeon]

i will do the fuck part tonight

[pale aspen]

where you did order plate?

[tawdry tree]

in your gpu’s display ports was it?

[tawdry tree]

kbdfans

[untold wigeon]

in your moms clitoris

[pale aspen]

good at least they include standoff

[tawdry tree]

@ Senior Moderator

[untold wigeon]

kbdfans for fr4/cf. smkeyboards for alu but u need standoffs

[pale aspen]

how about grindfatherL

good

[tawdry tree]

I answered for him

he is my son

so ye I’d know

[pale aspen]

because you can use kbdfans standoff on snkeyboard

[untold wigeon]

i am fucking 30 years young

im not ur son

[tawdry tree]

mentally u are

physically you are a fossil

[untold wigeon]

tf does that mean

fossil u say

[tawdry tree]

a fossil rock formation

[untold wigeon]

maybe

[tawdry tree]

is anyone here from europe that has raptor switches left over?

[untold wigeon]

ur rich

import them

[tawdry tree]

I will when clears come out

but I wanna test rq

[untold wigeon]

ur an rgb andy?

[tawdry tree]

and don’t wanna wait a while

no, I’m an aesthetics guy

[untold wigeon]

u dont see the switch bozo

[tawdry tree]

The white stem with red and black looks dogshit

I do

[untold wigeon]

tf

[tawdry tree]

I don’t use keycpas

idiot

[untold wigeon]

LOL

classic

[tawdry tree]

where is kbdfans located

china?

[untold wigeon]

in china bruh