🔧│keyboard_modding

[untold wigeon]

not again

dont u dare

[void hollow]

HAHAHA

[untold wigeon]

fucking weeb

i still sympathize with you

[void hollow]

i swear you never forget that

[untold wigeon]

i wont

[wind karma]

whag

[void hollow]

good

its as if we have 8 hours to spend on wooting discord everyday

[wind karma]

i might

[void hollow]

im still waiting for my tx ap stabs

no way some local courier takes longer that some fucking usps

[untold wigeon]

i spent more than 8hrs today

[wind karma]

dude…

[untold wigeon]

why did u order tx aps?

[void hollow]

wanna see if they sound as good as they're mentioned

[untold wigeon]

which ones

snap ins screws or plate

[void hollow]

both

[untold wigeon]

both?

[void hollow]

they come in both anyways

[untold wigeon]

in screw ins and snap ins?

thats kinda wild

[void hollow]

ive heard so

just gotta see so

[untold wigeon]

thats impossible

unless they cost

way more

[void hollow]

i cant get a good picture of my keyboard

im thinking what case color would fit well with the keycaps im rocking rn

please ignore the screwdriver-

[shell geode]

Wait, why?

[untold wigeon]

they sound terrible lmao

[shell geode]

Haha as it should, since the Lekker is one of the first of its kind

[untold wigeon]

as it should?

tf

[shell geode]

@untold wigeon Right, because without the Lekker, there wouldn't be progressive versions of the HE like the Raptors and the Jades to improve on

[halcyon obsidian]

Okok after doing more searching I am even MORE confused so in this cord for gummy mounting we recommend the bakeneko60 O-ring and the graveshift medium, but if you look at the graveshift chart they don’t recommend the medium for the bakeneko60, they say to get the small

[void hollow]

but we reccomend medium

dont take my words wrongly but: whats ur point being(questionmark)

[halcyon obsidian]

So let’s take the bakeneko60 o-ring as the baseline

If the graveshift company says to use the small on the bakeneko60 then why use the medium on our builds if also we use the bakeneko60 o-ring

Pretty much graveshift is saying small = bakeneko60, and we use the bakeneko60 o-ring so why do we use the medium

[void hollow]

so basically ur planning to get an oring for your wooting

[halcyon obsidian]

Wut

[void hollow]

is that right

[halcyon obsidian]

I mean yeah

But I’m trying to learn the specific sizing

And it’s confusing

[void hollow]

but why would it matter if it just works haha

i mean people here have tried it already

[halcyon obsidian]

😂cause I like more specific answers that make more sense

[void hollow]

idk man, i doubt anyone here would have answers for that tbvh

because i was questioning exactly the same thing

[shell geode]

https://thockpop.com/product/gasket-o-ring-gummy-mount-30a/ I got this for my gummy mount and it fits very secure and snug, zero risk of the module falling out of the case at all

[void hollow]

i never saw that in chat so i pretty much settled to what they reccomended

[shell geode]

Sure, you have a quite a few choices, just gotta sift through some messages here and on Reddit if needed

[void hollow]

i dont really use reddit anymore so yea

[shell geode]

Ah gotcha, yeah their subreddit can be just as helpful if you need it

[void hollow]

meow

my graveshift m 40a slipped out when i tested it against gravity so i pretty much found a solution for it

im pretty much nearly down to my i think last 2-3 mods and im pretty much settled on my keyboard

• pc plate (if required to switch)
• tx ap stabs
• he+ module swap-in

[halcyon obsidian]

This states that
OD:190mm
ID: 183mm
Thickness 3.5mm
And made of NBR (nitrile rubber)

[jade orchid]

anyone know where i can get black south facing keycaps?

in eu

[quick gulch]

Maybe drop?

[untold wigeon]

wtf is a south facing keycap bub

check out pbtfans drop dcx or gmk

[void hollow]

that was what i was thinking

[jade orchid]

the control keycap set basically but black

[untold wigeon]

thats cherry profile

so search what i listed

[jade orchid]

yea been looking there, didnt seem to find them

[untold wigeon]

drop dcx is on drop.com
pbtfans is on kbdfans/keygem/eloquentclicks/deltakeyco(and more but these are the ones i know)
gmk well good luck

https://oblotzky.industries/ there are some here

[void hollow]

how are u still alive doc

[molten scroll]

hey would the tx rev 4 stabs be supported on the 60he module?

[void hollow]

yes

you can find the tx rev 4?

[molten scroll]

divinikey

[void hollow]

i just straight up got the tx ap

[molten scroll]

and it would be 1.6 right? or 1.2?

[void hollow]

wtf they're back in stock

i think its 1.2 lemme check for you real quick

[molten scroll]

ok ok ok

[void hollow]

1.6

[molten scroll]

thxxxx

[void hollow]

i didnt know they came back in stock so quickly

NEVERMIND

[molten scroll]

LMAOO

[torn summit]

dude do you live in the nemo point to have this much shipping 😭

[void hollow]

what is the nemo point

[torn summit]

the place on earth the farthest away from any piece of land, its closer to the ISS than any land, also its in the middle of the sea

[quick gulch]

it gets worse dw

[velvet egret]

Lekker 2.0 0.0?? Did I miss something?

[void hollow]

nope

[quick gulch]

yea gateron are working on another lekker switch. first test is probably just waht jades are

[sand oasis]

cant remember what exactly they said but they said they were working on a new switch for 2024

[void hollow]

if in the stream then probably i missed it

[finite gate]

tx rev 4 = tx ap

lol

[void hollow]

real?

[sand oasis]

saw it yesterday in here somewhere @void hollow

[finite gate]

also you can use 1.6 on 1.2 pcbs, just put shims underneath the pcb

cant use 1.2 on 1.6 though

[void hollow]

some people selling the tx ap but description shows rev 3 so i was really doubtful

[quick gulch]

honestly it's what ever

[void hollow]

but doubt its a big difference anyways between r3 and r4

[finite gate]

https://www.amazon.com/Zkeebs-Mechanical-Keyboard-Stabilizers-Rev-4/dp/B0CJ87Q152

zkeebs has tx ap on amazon for more money

[finite gate]

rev 3 sucks ass

worst tx version

rev 4 / ap so good

theyre the same..

feel bad for whover uses rev 3

[void hollow]

hmm, i think im paying around the same

[velvet egret]

With Xmas and everything haven’t been able to keep up with the chat. Also missed the stream :/

[onyx pier]

You are from sg right

[void hollow]

yeah

i bought them from qwertyqop

[velvet egret]

I did see that cam got his jade switches but haven’t seen any sound tests yet. Got my Raptor switches in finally now just the module -_-

[onyx pier]

You can get it from shopee

How much did you get the tx stabs for

[void hollow]

shopee and laz was really confusing, i mostly see rev 3s

i got them for 29 inclusive of shipping 👀

[onyx pier]

That is not so bad

Shopee sells ap tx stabs $25

Can use some coupons or something as well

[void hollow]

yeah ive seen some of them sneak rev 3 in the description

odd, i always buy stuff when its out of stock

[void hollow]

Calder also mentioned that they might stock the Raptors and Jades

[quick gulch]

hopefully someone imports raptors here, but jades are cheapest from china for me

[quick gulch]

picked up a few, want to see what RT is like, someone on taobao mentioned they weren't returning right

[velvet egret]

Awesome!! Hopefully way less shipping costs then

[void hollow]

the shipping for l45 switches was like 8 dollars for 1 pack

but i bought 4 packs so it was 20 dollars

but you get the idea it should be around the same price range

[lunar sand]

these situations are awful ... :x where are you from for that shipping to be that high?

[quick gulch]

australia

[pale aspen]

https://www.switchkeys.com.au/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-rev-4

[quick gulch]

which is why I'd be paying with aud

ya sk is sold out of plate mounts

should be in stock soon I hope

[pale aspen]

also raptor is in Ali

out of stock already?

[quick gulch]

oh yea they are

damn that's cool

geon sells 1 switch

that's pretty funny

So raptor switches have different rails right?

that's what it looks like, but they're open bottom also

oh the bottom looks like it's completely open too, that's real nice for rgb but the top housing is red so

[crimson sky]

What

Open bottom does not do anything for rgb

Rails also look normal

They just are from an entirely different manufacturer

[quick gulch]

idk about not doing anything for rgb

being completely open sure does help but then again idk if lekker is olike that too

[crimson sky]

Ah that is what you meant

[quick gulch]

nah it's not

well obviously the little hole in the middle does nothing :^)

[crimson sky]

Wooting leds are bright enough already

Trust me, there is too bright rgb

[quick gulch]

sure but just turn it down haha

There's a difference when the light is more diffused when compared to it being more clear

either way, kinda did expect a closed bottom, at least around the pole

[summer kettle]

anyone know any good sites for keycaps? like great quality and full sets

[quick gulch]

any of the regional vendors

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[void hollow]

this is the link i use to find websites to find my keycaps, take your time, dont rush and impulse buy, look through every website, seriously.

the link is the one lpse sent

[summer kettle]

Thank you guys! ❤️

[lunar sand]

well this is different 😄

https://kbdfans.com/collections/holy60/products/holy60-case

[void hollow]

maybe the fact that i cant put polyfill in it makes me feel different

[lunar sand]

lol yeah for sure ... just found out that KBDFans are releasing a couple of HE 8K polling rate keebs, and one of the cases was this ... which is ... interesting at least 😄

[void hollow]

honestly i find the polling rate is nothing more than just some marketing gimmick, like after a certain point which in my case is like 1k polling, you can barely feel the difference

[lunar sand]

oh yes ... that's for sure...

[void hollow]

reminds me of the ulx im getting, 30g+ i hope its built sturdy enough when i decide to smash my mouse on my table over some stupid teammates

[lunar sand]

more with Hall Effect

the issue with 8K and normal mechanical switches, is that 8k will not feel any different just because the issue is your reaction time and the actuation distance of a normal switch.

[quick gulch]

Yea the polling rate increase is nice. let's rt update faster

there is a point of diminishing return though

[lunar sand]

yeah, i have a 4k mouse and ... i end up using 1K

because... no change

[quick gulch]

not to mention having to deal with random software too. so wonder what kbd are going to make/use

[void hollow]

yeah id stick to 1k just for longer battery life

[quick gulch]

hmm, the raptor listing on taobao mnentions geon's venom pcb and it being h88

very good

[pale aspen]

so f13

geon said it support both f12 f13

[quick gulch]

no real pictures yet but I guess he'll just have two pcbs

or maybe just make the solder points adjustable

so we can move the sensor

[crimson sky]

definetley doable

it is marked as an 88 pcb

which would indicate F13 ig

[pale aspen]

yep geon said f12 f13 6.25u 7u

but damn

cant wait to see

tiger lite is ready

[crimson sky]

yea let's hope the fw is good

qmk should be able to compete

[pale aspen]

i hope they add many chessy as possivle

or like

anyone can make mod

i hope you understand, like mod of steam game

[crimson sky]

chessy?

[pale aspen]

like single press and make rapidly press as possible

chessy feature my bad.

fat finger

how is your frog mini plate situation so far?

[lunar sand]

Cool feature. Scroll down to the switch section and hear the different switches. You can ear the new dual rails and the jades

https://kbdfans.com/products/holy60

[reef lava]

Wait i just noticed, 80HE doesnt have a strap slot? WHAT

[onyx pier]

will i be able to buy the pcb only for holy 60 or no

[wet hazel]

I actually prefer the sound of the Gateron 2.0 Orange over the Jade's in that sound test. For me the Jades sounds more high pitched when they bottom out, the Oranges 2.0 dual rail a little more muffled and less clacky. The original Oranges have all that rattle :/

[lunar sand]

Me too. What sucks because I ordered the jades 😂

The original oranges sound like the lekkers

Meanwhile I cancelled my module … either buy the 80He or try this PCB from kbd

[wet hazel]

If you already had the 60he the module doesn't add too much, only the screw stabs and pc plate

[quick gulch]

Module was a little late to the market really, but yea if y ou already have an 60he then there's actually no point. The only real thing it adds is the ability to use like any 60% without a plate swap

[lunar sand]

Yeah but my plan was to give one wooting to my kid Ehehe

[quick gulch]

makes sense

[bronze grove]

Screw stabs

[quick gulch]

Yea

[lunar sand]

From experience from my other 5 customs, well tuned plate mounts will feel the same

[quick gulch]

which lets you put it in more cases without needing a custom plate to add plate mount stabs

The siwtches friction fit pretty well, but it's still not ideal 😄

module means you don't have to get a plate cut to use a frog.

[lunar sand]

If I could I would have them@all

😂

[pale aspen]

frog mini still require custom plate

[quick gulch]

Nah it's fine, the switches keep the plate to the pcb very well just as they are hoenstly.

[lunar sand]

My pandas v3 are so good that I don’t feel a difference from my other screw ins … so that’s cool

[quick gulch]

and you can throw in some case foam and that thing isn't going anywhere since the frog already has very little space

[pale aspen]

hmmm

[quick gulch]

I did that for a bit while I was waiting for my plate to come

obviously not ideal though.

[pale aspen]

pic pls

wanna to see frog

[sand oasis]

anyone got a sound test of the gateron orange 2s?

[pale aspen]

orange 2.0?

it is oos

in stock next months

[pale aspen]

dark green?

what keycap?

[quick gulch]

I still don’t think I like ghost enough, but the only thing that’s sort of green that I’ve got is camping.

Yea it’s the dark green

I kinda do like the transparency sometimes it’s cute

[sand oasis]

yeh im not a huge fan of the keycaps with the green case

but the case colour is nice

[quick gulch]

It’s really grey in person honestly

[stray tiger]

The custom plate is so that you can keep the PCB and plate screwed together to maintain an exact distance between them at all times. If youre using the stock plate on a Frog, you WILL have issues.

Source: I also own a frog mini

[quick gulch]

I know

But like with the module I’d honestly say you don’t need to get a plate cut

Probably would be better to do so but you can just send it as is

[pale aspen]

it is like aventurine green metallic porsche color

[wet hazel]

they put in bold the single-dual rail thingy, maybe it's important for the feel/sound 🥔

[quick gulch]

You know what, yea it does look like that

[stray tiger]

How would you keep the distance between and the plate and PCB consistent?

[quick gulch]

gateron pins are pretty thick, they hold well.

not to mention the frog doesn't have much space, so half the foam sheet that comes with the he is more than enough to hold everything tightly in place

have you tried to use it without a custom plate?

[sharp yew]

dumb question but are people getting the hotswap version of the salvation60 for the 60he

[quick gulch]

shouldn't matter

[stray tiger]

I understand how it would fit tight and not have a lot of room to move, but when you're talking actuations measured at .1mm, not having the board and PCB screwed tightly together is going to cause false inputs.

[stray tiger]

You're not using the Salvation PCB so doesnt matter

[quick gulch]

Unless you're really heavy handed and like to beat your keyboard it won't matter.

[sharp yew]

oh, do i still have to choose option 2

[quick gulch]

I used it like that for about 1 week with rt at .15 the entire time

had no noticeable issues.

[stray tiger]

You can choose hotswap or solder. If you want to re-use the PCB in say the wooting stock case and dont want to solder switches, pick hotswap

[glacial wind]

did you guys overload the rakka page lol, i can't get the sound tests to load

[quick gulch]

wasn't loading for me either, u ntli i refreshed a few times

[stray tiger]

I had that problem but it was brave blocking the load-ins

[glacial wind]

ah i had to refresh a few times too and now it works

weird

[sharp yew]

thanks guys, i snagged lightning silver

[glacial wind]

i actually like that kinda louder long pole hit at the end of the jade switch. Pair it with an fr4 plate or something i bet it sounds solid

[quick gulch]

Yea picked up some jades and raptors, probably going to end up liking the jades more since they sound a bit fuller.

[stray tiger]

Glad it worked for you. I wouldnt suggest it to people though because it's just asking for trouble. Hell even flex cuts on the KBDfans plates ended up causing issues to the point that the new plates dont have the flex cuts

[stray tiger]

I also liked the jades better

[pale aspen]

they cancel pom (which only plate that has no flex cut in the first place)

probably too soft

[quick gulch]

I probably wouldn't buying a frog without getting a plate cut, but if someone's got one and they want to throw it in so try there's no reason to get a plate cut. There's just no way you'd have any issues after putting some foam under the pcb. There's no room for anything to move, I had to push down on the entire plate to get the usb in.

[stray tiger]

The FR4 plate offered with the Takka60 and Holy60 no longer have flex cuts and neither does the aluminum.

[pale aspen]

they shouldnt in the first place

glad they learn

alu good i love it

[quick gulch]

pom for sure not it, I did get a pom plate cut and it just was horrible actually

it's so soft it can't hold at all.

[stray tiger]

Im curious about the weight of the Holy60 to see how much it slides around. Could be an awesome idea or a horrible one.

[bronze grove]

Holy? Surely it should be light as an angel's feather.

[pale aspen]

see u in March

[lunar sand]

Im more interested in the sound signature

[pale aspen]

sad they dont ship case only before

[stray tiger]

Well since I have a 60% case thats 3784 grams (8.5lbs) Ill be curious to see if the opposite extreme is boon or bane. I think the holy60 is supposed to be under 400 grams

[pale aspen]

they will ship together with prebuild

[lunar sand]

Without a case

Or a solid case I mean

[agile grove]

doesnt look to have rubber feet either

[pale aspen]

someone said in fb "sound doesnt matter HE switch sound bad anyway" but he probably doesnt about new switches yet

[stray tiger]

Quick, marketing idea. Make a keebmat that is rubber on both sides to prevent slipping from the desk or the board.

[pale aspen]

these are feet arent they?

[lunar sand]

That’s called a mouse mat

😂

[stray tiger]

Like sticky rubber on both sides lol

[quick gulch]

I can't do the port cutout. looks horrible to me

[agile grove]

will probably change heavily depending on surface

[bronze grove]

It really does look out of place doesn't it.

Reminds me of an ATX Power supply plug hole.

[quick gulch]

it's so whack, kbd fans really miss with the ports every time

[lunar sand]

It’s in the back

[agile grove]

oh true, but they seem so small for the weight

[lunar sand]

That’s ok 😂

[stray tiger]

Ive never liked the damn adjustable USB slot, its why I never bought a redux. Plus lets be honest, if you want the internals to be shown like in the picture, just make it a larger USB opening

[lunar sand]

Tapemod will look meh

😂

[pale aspen]

they try to accomodate both wooting pcb and other dz60 i think

that why it look like that

[quick gulch]

Yea

[lunar sand]

Actually I like this approach. Very organic

[stray tiger]

They are but you dont need a whack USB slider to do that, just make the opening a little larger

[agile grove]

imagine filling it with polyfill

[pale aspen]

sound doest natter in open case lol

[turbid karma]

You can use some Keebtape, which is clear. Won't look as ass as painters blue

[lunar sand]

Or a printed cool tape mod

[stray tiger]

Well no matter what you do, dont spill your drink on it

[lunar sand]

On any keeb for that matter 😂

[agile grove]

im more worried about dust and dirt

[stray tiger]

Just get a mini blower or vacuum. Thats what i use

[pale aspen]

glass bottom

wish kbdfan had this pcb

[lunar sand]

They have a second version with the redux case either way

[pale aspen]

i love arrow

2u shift is not big deal and i never use left shift

[quick gulch]

I do wish someone would make a split bs he

[frosty sentinel]

In case anyone is curious, hand lubed jades

PC plate , foam, case foam, tape mod, gummy o ring mount.

[quick gulch]

jades?

ya makes sense haha

[stray tiger]

No, hades. Switches from hell

[pale aspen]

no switch pad right!

[frosty sentinel]

That would actually be a sick name hahahah

[pale aspen]

?

[lunar sand]

Damnnn that’s a loud switch

[frosty sentinel]

No switch pad

[quick gulch]

Running a wallpaper on your oled

[lunar sand]

😂

[quick gulch]

interesting

[pale aspen]

what keycap anyway

[frosty sentinel]

The monitor shuts off after 1 minute lol

[quick gulch]

that lowkey looks like bread

[stray tiger]

Live wallpaper. Smart lol

[quick gulch]

or maybe what bread should hav elooked liek

[frosty sentinel]

They’re drop latte

[quick gulch]

Yea fk I don't have the guts, I hide my taskbar and have no wallpaper

[wet hazel]

That case has almost no weight, 0.22kg, there are plastic cases than weight more

[frosty sentinel]

My task bar hides too lol

[stray tiger]

I switched to a small 16" side monitor recently and I think Im liking it. Took a few days to get used to it

I have to use the browser based discord though so I can auto hide the discord channel list

Like this, otherwise there isnt enough room for my old eyes

[agile grove]

you could try vencord or better discord

[stray tiger]

I have never heard of vencord. Thanks Ill check it out

[agile grove]

imo ultrawide monitors make better side monitors

has anyone done a stock jade vs lekkers comparison?

[polar girder]

Yo for module, clip in PCB stabs + friction mount, yeah?

Really liking the friction mount rn. Don’t want to give it up for module

https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-rev-4

These ideal?

[stray tiger]

I like them yes

[pale aspen]

oring/fiction mount probably the best for any conventional tray mount case

never burger mod tho

[gaunt linden]

What are those jade switches people talk about? Anyone has a link?

[agile grove]

not at all lol

[grand badger]

I tried 🤷🏼‍♂️

[agile grove]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magic-jade-switch?VariantsId=10767

[grand badger]

OHHH

[gaunt linden]

Are there good?

[polar girder]

Yeah

[gaunt linden]

Better than raptors?

[polar girder]

Jades and Raptors on top

[gaunt linden]

Does anyone have them already?

[gaunt linden]

Should i order these instead of the raptor HE ones?

[agile grove]

personal preference

[gaunt linden]

I mean which do you find better quality/sound?

[pale aspen]

thock - jade
clack - raptor

[wet hazel]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[gaunt linden]

Thank youuu

[gaunt linden]

Thanks to you too!

Does jade not need to switch Stems like raptors?

[pale aspen]

raptor doesnt need stem switch neither

[radiant plover]

i stumbled on the holy60 case from clicking this and man does that case look amazing

[gaunt linden]

Oh alrighttt

[radiant plover]

I ordered my first 'custom' stuff being a white tofu60 redux, and some white 'bow' keycaps and honestly thats extremely tame but i'm not looking to make such a statement for my first build anyway

i am still super tempted to just go ahead and order that with jades as well lmao

[gaunt linden]

I got one last question lol, what are those lekkers 2.0? Where can i find info on those? If not whats new ?

[wet hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdnA6VT6C00

new videos from jades started to apper on YouTube

[fluid ravine]

Jade's are tight. Little to no stem wobble

[wet hazel]

There are no lekkers 2.0 for now, but there are Gateron 2.0 switches

[fluid ravine]

Same materials as lekkers but dimension design on top housing and stem is improved and now with a closed out bottom pole housing

[gaunt linden]

How bout sound? Since they use the same materials do they sound the same?

[fluid ravine]

No
Sounds like a whole new switch

[gaunt linden]

Thank god lol

I shouldve waited for these lol

[fluid ravine]

The reason why it sounds different is because of the tolerance design on the stem and top housing

[glacial wind]

they're in the works but we don't know anything besides they will have less wobble

[fluid ravine]

Lekkers have a problem of being loose causing them to chatter and have stem wobble

The closed bottom out pole on the bottom housing probably makes the bottom out sound more cleaner I suppose

It shouldn't affect the magnet I'm guessing since its magnet

But ye

Looking at the jades is honestly good, gave the lekkers more potential to improve in sound and it's other problems even with the same material design.

[grand badger]

I ordered my Wooting 60HE like 2 days ago. Have been usin the SteelSeries Apex Pro TKL for years now. How wobbly are the stems compared to this piece of poop? Any way to fix this without buying a new set of switches?

[fluid ravine]

I don't know anything abt the Omni point switches as I never have them in front of me. So I can't really give you a comparison of stem wobbles between the 2 switches.

If you're asking for a fix on the lekkers switches then here #🪛│modding_faq message

Switch tape mod

Still would prefer to buy these new released switches as they get better but if you're trying to save yourself money and trying to fix these switches then do that ^^

[grand badger]

Thx a lot dude 😄 Well id rather buy new switches then if im not happy with the lekkers xD Ty again

[fluid ravine]

No problemo

[pallid echo]

the announcement yesterday got me wanting to mod my wooting again

the fjell just looks insaneeeee

insanely expensive toooooo

[quiet bay]

Dark video = with plate foam and other mods

Video with light = without plate foam and other mods

[fleet summit]

Which sounds better? The geon HE switches or the Jades?

[quiet bay]

I say Jades

[fleet summit]

Thank you

Are they good on stock or do they need to be lubed?

[quiet bay]

They're good on stock

[quiet bay]

@fluid ravine hmmm

[fluid ravine]

Foam has a lower pitched frequency than the no plate foam

As expected

[quiet bay]

I gotta try polyfill next

if I ever actually get it

Ima revert back to plate foam tho

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Pls do hehe

[wet hazel]

Polyfill is dangerous with the pcb and such?

[spice herald]

Tape mod kills the danger

[wet hazel]

Seems to be the perfect complement to each other lol

[fluid ravine]

Theres nothing wrong with it

The only thing you should avoid or be careful with is poly fill and a battery

[polar girder]

I put the redux foam on top of my polyfill FWIW

[quiet bay]

where'd you buy your polyfill/

[fluid ravine]

Walmart

Or you can on Amazon

[quiet bay]

amazind

ohnomyspacebarisnotworkin

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

[quiet bay]

ok fixed

[pallid echo]

sorry if this gets asked a lot but does anyone have the plate file for wooting pcb in the frog mini?

nvm found it

[stark osprey]

Has anyone actually mounted this ? I was thinking of putting this on the new alumaze 60 build

[quiet bay]

yeah people have

can only do it with the l60s though since l45 would be too light

[stark osprey]

Oh man... it wont rebound otherwise, im assuming?

[quiet bay]

ye

The spacebar might still have a problem though but idk

I've never tried cerakeys

[stark osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hopes-and-dreams-barney-hopes-dreams-barney-stinson-gif-14726434

[quiet bay]

nahh it's still viable with l60s

[stark osprey]

yeah im just adamant about the l45s though, thats more important to me

[quiet bay]

o rip

[stark osprey]

i read about the bottom keys rubbing against each other too with certain cases

[quiet bay]

Well

The cerakeys will make the l60s feel hella light

because of its weight

[stark osprey]

you mean because of its heavier weight it will take less force to activate the l60s?

[quiet bay]

pretty much

[stark osprey]

im wondering now how that will affect the keyboard when youre digitally setting actuation force/reset

[quiet bay]

It should work the same

[stark osprey]

will it still accurately set with 0.1g increments

[quiet bay]

it's just requiring less force to press

[quiet bay]

yes

it doesn't affect the magnet

[uncut musk]

to polyfill or to not polyfill

[quiet bay]

to polyfill

it's only like uhhh

5-10 dollars

and you get a huge amount

[uncut musk]

yeah its pretty cheap

50g Polyester Fill, Premium Polyester Fiberfill, Recycled Polyester Fiber, High Resilience Stuffing Fluff Fiberfill for Pillow Filling, Christmas Dolls DIY, and Home Decors Projects https://a.co/d/2ysuLLc this should be fine right

[boreal violet]

I wanna build a keyboard with the wooting module, does anyone know of a compatible alu lavendar color case?

[polar girder]

Redux or alumaze

[uncut musk]

Whenever you order your module if you haven’t already you can get the alumaze for like 90 dollars instead of the 120 im pretty sure

[boreal violet]

ye but the alumaze has that piece of the left that sticks out, would prefer a case that is a bit more clean

[polar girder]

Redux

[boreal violet]

ye looking for that now in eu

[halcyon obsidian]

what are these?

[quiet bay]

L60s

[halcyon obsidian]

tape mod?

[quiet bay]

with switch tape mod

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah

[quiet bay]

3 layers of gentle paper tape

[halcyon obsidian]

what all jade sound test do we have floatin around so far

[quiet bay]

uhh

We got Cam's

and that one comparison on youtube

which is a short

idk what else

[halcyon obsidian]

I think deadly sasuage has one and he lubed his

[agile grove]

to me jades just sound like well lubed lekkers

[fluid ravine]

[quiet bay]

Jades don't have the chatter

[quick gulch]

^

Seems like they’re a full sounding switch without all the wobble and chatter sounds that the lekkers have

[lilac grove]

some one has GATERON Magnetic Jade Switch in alumaze60 and has a sound test for me?

[wet hazel]

Is that a question or an affirmation?

[halcyon obsidian]

I couldn't tell either

[lilac grove]

sorry fortgot the ?

[wet hazel]

Ah, as far as I know, no alumaze with jade's recorded here

[frosty sentinel]

They definitely don’t sound the same.. but to each their own

[wet hazel]

Maybe others have found some video

[lilac grove]

i found like 3 diffrent vids no more atm

[wet hazel]

But alumaze sounds more pingy/metallic compared to tofu

[halcyon obsidian]

they don't sound similar at all, maybe switch tape moded sound closer but still pretty different sounds

[static tendon]

@stray tiger do you by any chance own a Salvation 60% keyboard case?

[stray tiger]

I've owned 2 but dont currently own one

[static tendon]

Did you not like them? Is that why you no longer own them?

I was just curious on your thoughts with the case is all, since you seem quite experienced in the custom keyboard world

[stray tiger]

They both arrived damaged from the distributor so both were sent back. It was an early packing issue that I believe has been resolved by the manufacturer adding additional packing material inside the case to keep the zipper pouch metal teeth from damaging the case

[static tendon]

Oh that's a bummer! Glad to hear they've resolved that issue 😮

[halcyon obsidian]

I wish the option to buy switches stock were a thing

[quiet bay]

Why?

[sharp yew]

yikes

im putting a 60he module in one

[quiet bay]

O dang

what color?

which keycaps u pairing with it :v

[sharp yew]

either the white sugar jellies or the pbtfans bow i have now

lightning silver

[normal schooner]

... i hate to be this guy.. but the new take control keycaps in black and white with the hall effect

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[untold wigeon]

yeah it looks cool

unfortunately i do not stand pbt keycaps anymore

[sharp yew]

the cerakeys are on sale

[quiet bay]

Full set on sale ;0

but im sticking with my keycaps

[sharp yew]

i think im good for now

too damn cold to be using those keycaps

[halcyon obsidian]

because I would prefer them to be bone dry and lube them myself because they are usually not consistant, I don't know the quality of the lube they are using, and or just lubed poorly

[quiet bay]

I mean

[halcyon obsidian]

and even if they are lubed well, I doubt the quality of lube is as good

[quiet bay]

I just lube over it

[halcyon obsidian]

but what if they add too much?

[quiet bay]

they don't

it's usually just a small amount of lube

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah but with the jades for example

[wet hazel]

Because of the limitations on legends and colors?

[normal schooner]

@stray tiger

[halcyon obsidian]

the pics cam sent I wouldn't want to add more to that

[sharp yew]

i would've taken some slightly overlubed lekkers ngl

[halcyon obsidian]

but I also dont know the quality of the lube

[normal schooner]

cerakeys good?

[sharp yew]

with a lil heated blanket maybe

[stray tiger]

Spacebar is known to be too heavy for the 45's and sometimes too heavy for the 60's

[sharp yew]

theres nothing worse than gaming with cold hands

[normal schooner]

avoid

[quiet bay]

I feel like the whole keycap set is too heavy for the l45s

[normal schooner]

i use 45s

[left glade]

if you can, can you send a picture of your keyboard how does it look

i want to see some keyboards to take a look at it, maybe i will take some notes how to upgrade it in future

• if people want they can rate each other keyboards

why not

[quiet bay]

im pretty sure people put ceramics on their wooting before

[untold wigeon]

because they lose the texture extremely easily with my sweaty ass hands, the spacebars sound like garbage and they are overpriced to shit

gmk abs spacebars sound so much fucking better

[lucid swan]

just buy solid metal keycaps

[untold wigeon]

no

[pallid echo]

gmk keycaps are fire but so expensive

it doesn’t help that i’m starting to get addicted to modding

[timid nebula]

Hey, I am doing ordering my wooting 60he + to mod it, I just have a quick question about the lekker switch, the lekker 45 have a Start: 30cN (gram force)
End: 45cN (gram force) and the lekker 60 : Start: 40cN (gram force) and End: 60cN (gram).

For the moment I am using a steel série apex pro mini wireless with the omni point 2.0 switches

On their website they only say that the actuation force is 45 Cn

Do you know guys which switch I should pick in order for my wooting keyboard to have an actuation force similar to my apex pro mini ?

[normal schooner]

@stray tiger ??

[stray tiger]

No idea. I'm not an owner of those board

[normal schooner]

in that case @timid nebula make a #1019755933959733258 ticket

[timid nebula]

Oh ok great thanks !

[agile grove]

at this point tirade is the go to guy for anything in #🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

Aren’t omni’s 45grams too?

[timid nebula]

Yes they are 45

[tawdry tree]

Should be listed on Steelseries’ site I presume

[sullen salmon]

wanna get replacement stabs, what would you guys recommend?

for wooting 60he

most people recommend the durock plate mounted stabs

[fluid ravine]

Itd be pops and CAM for me

[tawdry tree]

Then the L45 would be as close to it as possible. Or you can buy the omni points directly which are the White KS-20 on Gateron’s site.

[fluid ravine]

[lunar sand]

durocks needs tuning / personalization
TX's are better overall in stock form

[tawdry tree]

I would advise you to wait with your purchase however as the new Gateron 2.0s are about to launch.

[fluid ravine]

Real

[lunar sand]

but at the end of the time

[untold wigeon]

why the fuck would you buy stabs then leave them stock

[sullen salmon]

id probably be lubing and bandaid modding

at the least

[lunar sand]

they will be both good, my durock v2s are great, but i had to holee mod them, lube them ...

they are perfecto now

[timid nebula]

What are the gateron 2.0?

[lunar sand]

but my TXs were really good from the bat

although i still did mod them... just because

😄

[tawdry tree]

Gateron’s new magnetic switch with a dual rail design.

[fluid ravine]

I only use lube and grease ilon my TX ap stabs

[timid nebula]

Is it game changer ?

[fluid ravine]

But there was one point I didn't use the grease cus they didn't really need it

But I put grease anyways
Cus idk, just wanted to ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar sand]

sound wise, they are more refined

[fluid ravine]

Game changer in stem wobble
Sound wise depends

[timid nebula]

Oh ok, and what about the gateron jade ?

[lunar sand]

i posted a page early today, for the Holy60 from KBDFans

they have the sound sample

[quiet bay]

holy60 is weird

[lunar sand]

for gateron 2.0 and Jade's

on the product page

[quiet bay]

it's unholy

[tawdry tree]

From the keyboard that comes with them stock (ATK68) they sound very promising. The Magnetic Jade switches also sound great but if I were you I’d wait for more sound tests to pop up in this discord.

[tawdry tree]

holy is hot

[lunar sand]

tbh, got my attention 😄

[quiet bay]

I don't like all the holes

[lunar sand]

yeah i mean, its a personal thing

[tawdry tree]

The holes will be terrible for sound

[lunar sand]

i'm more interested in the PCB and the overall sound signature of that open case

[quiet bay]

Im fine with holes on a mouse but not holes on a keyboard

[sullen salmon]

how about the raptor he switches

[fluid ravine]

Sounds like a whole different switch from the HE category
Aka it sounds like it's own switch

Stem wobble is improved by a lot

[timid nebula]

Is there a specific channel on that discord for the sound test videos ?

[fluid ravine]

They're alright
Better than lekkers for sure

[lunar sand]

actually i may contest that ... you will not have sound resonance from the case... that's my curiosity

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove OIII

[tawdry tree]

It sound more like a normal switch as it’s closed. Normal switches are closed as well..

[timid nebula]

Cause for the moment I’ll go for the l45 lubbed I think ( btw are they factory lubbed or should I better lubbed them myself ?)

[sullen salmon]

would it affect switch performance tho?

[stable kindle]

do the lekkers have better stem wobble than my 12 year old cherry reds?

[tawdry tree]

With a desk mat it may sound good but without 😬

[sullen salmon]

lubing by hand will always improve it, factory lubing wont ever be as good as hand lubed

[fluid ravine]

It's the stem and top housing
The bottome out just makes it sound a bit cleaner

[timid nebula]

I am asking bc I’ve heard the l60 aren’t factory lubbed, but maybe they factory lubbed the l45

[fluid ravine]

But yes it does sound like a normal switch

[quiet bay]

they're both factory lubed

[lunar sand]

actually thinking on pre-ordering it 😄 but not sure yet 😄 since i'm sleepy and i do stupid things when i'm sleepy ... i will wait for tomorrow 😄

[fluid ravine]

That's what I was saying

[sullen salmon]

would the gateron 2.0's affect performance with their closed bottom??

[lunar sand]

gateron 2.0 do not have closed bottom

[sullen salmon]

as in wont they not be as responsive or

[lunar sand]

Jade's have

[sullen salmon]

ah right

well yeah that then

[fluid ravine]

Gimme details on gateron 2.0
I don't got info on them

[tawdry tree]

Well the Gateron Jades have a 3.5mm travel distance compared to Lekker’s 4mm. So between 0.1 and 3.5mm you won’t notice any issues.

[tawdry tree]

Same

[sullen salmon]

well yea i think i set mine to .4 actuation

[quiet bay]

btw how does stem wobble affect sound ? 🤔

[lunar sand]

@fluid ravine
Gateron Magnetic 2.0 Orange Switch
Operation Force: 30±7gf
lnitial Magnetic Flux: 102±15Gs
Bottom Magnetic Flux: 905±80Gs
Pre Travel: Freely setting
Total Travel: 4.1±0.2mm
Spring: 20mm
Structure: Dual-rail
Pre-Lubed: Yes
Typing Style: Linear
Lifetime: 150 million

[tawdry tree]

Reeve the Magnetic Jade switch and Gateron 2.0s are different. Jades have a closed bottom and 2.0s have a dual rail design.

[fluid ravine]

Ok you remember how I thought the problem of the lekkers being chattery is bc of the top housing material?

I was wrong and a kind of right

[lunar sand]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/holy60/products/holy60

[quiet bay]

ye

[lunar sand]

check the section for the switches

[tawdry tree]

So hot, holyyyy

[lunar sand]

they have sound samples

[quiet bay]

Steel plate did make the sound worse too lol

[lunar sand]

for both 2.0's and Jade's

[sullen salmon]

so out of the raptor HE's, the Jades and the gateron 2.0 oranges, what would be the best in terms of performance, sound and feel, as in what does each switch offer as their main selling point i guess

[normal schooner]

no thanks i keep this heavy brass plated fjell case

[fluid ravine]

The tolerance between the stem and housing was really loose, so the stem would rattle around. Everytime it hits the top housing it would produce a chatter sound bc it's inconsistent.

[sullen salmon]

yeah and the chatter sound is not nice at all

cerakeys have definitely helped give my keyboard a lot better sound alongside tape mod and burger mount + lube

[quiet bay]

and so the switch tape mod made it tighter which reduced that sound 🤔

[fluid ravine]

Looking at the Raptors, it's improved as you can see from dimension and chatter sound

[fluid ravine]

Yes

And took an affect of dampening it as well

[quiet bay]

ahem..sound test

[fluid ravine]

That's why we see such of an improvement when performing this mod

[quiet bay]

now I want to try it but vertically

[tawdry tree]

2.0s = nearly no stemwobble and blast the sound they make down in the case.
Jades = closed bottom, muffle the sound
raptors = just better than lekkers but worse than the two mentioned above.
stem swapped raptors = probably the least stem wobble, decent sound but there is friction as the stem does not fit perfectly.

[lunar sand]

tbh with dual rail, the switch tape mod becomes less necessary ...that's the cool thing about the dual rail, more stability, less rattle ...

[sullen salmon]

@quiet bay idk where else to send this so here u go,

[quiet bay]

Switch tape mod is for those on a budget

[sullen salmon]

ignore my cable management is pretty bad atm cuz imm moving soon

[lunar sand]

nopeeee, switch tape mod is for those with too much time on their hands 😄

[fluid ravine]

And now taking look at the jades, no chatter
Sounds like our everyday normal switch without chatter. Why? Cus little to no wobble stated by CAM

[sullen salmon]

it still has a chatter sound to it but definitely more muted and thockier than the standard, however my mic might make it sound worse

[quiet bay]

nuhhhhh uhhh 😃

totally not

[lunar sand]

of course not!!!!

lol 😄

[fluid ravine]

Improved bottom housing with a closed bottom out pole does not matter

[lunar sand]

been there, done that, got a tshirt

lol 😄

[normal schooner]

80he comes with a new switch

[fluid ravine]

Just a extra affect

[quiet bay]

It sounds very

sharp

[sullen salmon]

yeah, my phone mic doesnt do it justice

its better irl however im still trying to perfect it

[lunar sand]

i think it sounds super muffled 😄 but very personal

[fluid ravine]

Switches?

[quiet bay]

SOOOO...

[sullen salmon]

lekker 45s

lubed

[fluid ravine]

Sounds very clunky

[quiet bay]

I might try out switch tape mod

[sullen salmon]

bad or good

[quiet bay]

but vertically on the switch

[fluid ravine]

Both ig

[sullen salmon]

it definitely sounds more muted and softer irl

and the feel is far better than the standard wooting

[lunar sand]

oh yeah

but standard switches sound terrible

[sullen salmon]

anyway, in terms of performance and sound overall, what would the best be out of the raptors, gat oranges and jades?

[sullen salmon]

yup

[quiet bay]

ok i just realized how much housing wobble the wooting has

and how dirty my plate is as well

[sullen salmon]

yeah its got a lot i jus noticed as well due to a video i watched earlier compared to the raptors with the lekker stemms in them

[lunar sand]

can't say ... i have KS20s clears and normal Lekkers 60 ... i prefer the KS20s clears but they are similar to the 45s ... the Jades i ordered 2 days ago, so still need 10 more days for them to be delivered

[sullen salmon]

gotcha

so do i just wait for more jade and orange sound tests? and does anyone know if the closed bottom housing of the jades would affect the HE performance?

[quiet bay]

im going to try films again later

after I clean my plate...

[sullen salmon]

i didnt like films, made my switches sound even more chattery

[fluid ravine]

Wait no literally aren't the ks20s the same as lekkers but with different springs and just different colors

[lunar sand]

the only thing i know is that i will only get pre'lubed switches since i'm freakin tired of lubing switches 😄

[fluid ravine]

Talking abt ks20 oranges?

[sullen salmon]

no the gateron 2.0 oranges

[lunar sand]

KS20 orange similar to Lekker 60s ... KS20 clears similar to Lekkers 45 ...

talking about v1s

the v2s are the dual rail ones

[fluid ravine]

They're not even out yet

No?

[lunar sand]

tbh, i can't sayu

[tawdry tree]

They’re in the ATK68 which ships already and has a few reviews.

[lunar sand]

if i go with holy60 i will choose those switches ... because i already have jade's ...

but yeah

they are not out yet

[tawdry tree]

Lekkers are KS-20s just the spring can be different but switch is the same.

[fluid ravine]

Details? On holy60

Pls?

I'm a bit late to party

[timid nebula]

@tawdry tree just placed my order thanks !!!!!

[tawdry tree]

Holy60 is Takka60 with a the holy case

[tawdry tree]

What did you order?

[timid nebula]

Can wait for the 10th of January

[lunar sand]

yeah, only the case changes ... since i already have an acrylic redux ... would like to try out that weird case just because 😄

[quiet bay]

many holes

[tawdry tree]

The case looks fantastic honestly

[fluid ravine]

Unique..

[loud zephyr]

pcb design was praised by Wooting gang, but who knows how software side performs

[quiet bay]

Pay more to have less keyboard now

[fluid ravine]

Wait.. Is that a HE PCB?!

[loud zephyr]

kinda cool as a display piece

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[lunar sand]

its an HE 8K PCB

[quiet bay]

ye

[tawdry tree]

They claim features identical to Wooting but we’ll see.

Also web based app

[fluid ravine]

Oh my

[lunar sand]

usually KBDFans know their shit when it comes to keyboards

lets see

[quiet bay]

Features yes
But if software sucks

[tawdry tree]

Split shift too

[tawdry tree]

You can try a demo version on their site, looks promising

[timid nebula]

• Wooting 60 he+ module ANSI layout ( I am French and always used iso so it’s a first time)
• Lekker L45
• Lubbing set from wooting
• Wrist rest from wooting
• Aviator cable
• Tofu 60 redux + brass weight
• PBT key cap set ( https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/rabbit-sauce-dye-sub-keycaps )

[lunar sand]

that case, white or black, both are really cool

( holy 60 )

[loud zephyr]

what's on this date?

[tawdry tree]

Lekker L45 are bad man.. But overall good choices

[quiet bay]

sound is ass

on lekkers in general

[loud zephyr]

only thing that looks out of place with Holy60 is the branding. I mean, shit.. not exactly a difficult design to remember the name of

[tawdry tree]

Not gateron’s proudest moments

[quiet bay]

well then

[tawdry tree]

True, brandless speaks far louder with such an artistic design.

[timid nebula]

I taking them bc I need a functional keyboard asap and not an useless pcb haha, then I’ll see to switch them to get a better sound ( thocky 🤤🤤)

[quiet bay]

looks like switch pads will affect the holy60 he pcb

[tawdry tree]

Alright, you’ll have a great keyboard that’s for sure.

[tawdry tree]

Yes sorry, I read it wrong.

[timid nebula]

Haha i hope so! Thanks again for the help!

[quiet bay]

pretty sure wooting is working on better switches next year

[tawdry tree]

yw!

[tawdry tree]

Those probably are the Gateron 2.0s as Wooting doesn’t develop switches.

[timid nebula]

Btw with these cherry Mx style key caps, do I really need to mount the switches south side ? Bc I’ve watched some videos, avec they were mounted north and the YouTubers did not complained about interferences

[quiet bay]

They might design it 🤷‍♂️

[tawdry tree]

I doubt it.

[loud zephyr]

no

[timid nebula]

Great to know, thanks ! It must be the exception haha

[loud zephyr]

pretty rare for interference these days, I think it was only certain switches that didn't follow Cherry tolerances

or sumthin' like that

[timid nebula]

Oohhh

Okok great! Thanks

Last question, should I better use the foam that comes with the tofu 60 redux or the one that comes with the 60 he+ module ?

[quick gulch]

I think you’ll have interference still

[tawdry tree]

The module comes with platefoam, that’s not foam for in the case

[quick gulch]

Using cherry profile at least

[loud zephyr]

nah, i've churned through several keycaps on Mx and Lekkers and no affect

[timid nebula]

Oh so the platefoam can’t be used to be put in the case ?

[tawdry tree]

Foam that is sandwiched in between the PCBA and the plate.

[tawdry tree]

Nope, it’s just for the module.

[timid nebula]

I mean foam between the pcb and the case

Ooh ok! Thanks

[quick gulch]

Guess it’s just the lekker switch being nice then

[sullen salmon]

i cant decide between raptors, jades or gateron 2.0s

going insane

[loud zephyr]

get the most expensive one

lol

[fluid ravine]

Jades or gat 2.0

[quiet bay]

get Jades

screw gat 2.0s!!

[fluid ravine]

Although gat 2.0 isnt out yet

[sullen salmon]

i think gat 2.0 would probably be the best considering the bottom housing is still open for the hall effect sensor

[fluid ravine]

Jades over rap

[tawdry tree]

I can’t see a world where Gateron 2.0s don’t outclass them all. Closed back is not great for sound.

[tawdry tree]

Anyday

[sullen salmon]

really??

[quiet bay]

we need more sound tests on Jades

[sullen salmon]

i was about to cop raps lol

[loud zephyr]

join the Jade party - do it!

[sullen salmon]

god this is so difficult lmao

[loud zephyr]

it doesn't have to be

[quiet bay]

J a d e s

[sullen salmon]

Jades or gat 2.0, i think gat 2.0 would probably offer the best performance in regards to the HE

[tawdry tree]

Think about it. 2.0s are open at the bottom, the sound goes into the foam between the PCBA and the plate directly. Instead of with the Jades where sound gets sort of trapped and blasts everywhere.

[sullen salmon]

true, however the lekker switches are also open and dont sound too great

[untold wigeon]

im full

[tawdry tree]

2.0 also have no copatibility issues, you can use .1mm up to 4.0mm

[sullen salmon]

oh and jades are locked to like .4 or sum no?

to be fair i think i run .4 anyway

[tawdry tree]

No because they very bad tolerances, the 2.0s are dual railed.

[quick gulch]

The open bottom doesn’t help

[quiet bay]

I mean

[tawdry tree]

You can uses an actuation point of .1mm to 3.5mm with the Jades as of now until Wooting supports them.

[quiet bay]

it's the pcb that recognizes the magnet and not the switch recognizing the pcb so :v

[tawdry tree]

It does, you platefoam is a much better sound absorber than the switch housing itself.

[quick gulch]

I mean missing the bottom housing doesn’t help the lekker

[tawdry tree]

Jades have a travel distance of .1 - 3.5mm

[quick gulch]

You don’t get the stem sound

And your left with so that horrible chatter

[tawdry tree]

Lekkers are a bad switch overall with bad tolerances, the 2.0s aren’t.

[quick gulch]

Yea I got some jades and raptors so will see which I prefer

[loud zephyr]

to be fair, Lekker's are first gen and I doubt Wooting would've predicted the modding community to dissect it to the levels we do

[quick gulch]

Hopefully the jade since they’re clear top

[fluid ravine]

Fac

Big fax right there

[quick gulch]

I think they would have

[quiet bay]

I mean wooting is targeted more towards gamers xD

[fluid ravine]

Another fax

But we're the modding family so

[quick gulch]

No way they didn’t expect people to get get these sounding as good as they can

[sacred venture]

do anyone thinks the alumaze case from wooting is good?>

[fluid ravine]

[tawdry tree]

It was expected but Wooting had nothing else. The lekkers are the same switches Steelseries used so a new mold wouldn’t have to be made thereby making them cheaper as well.

[pallid echo]

i need jades

[tawdry tree]

go buy

[quick gulch]

Yea I think it’s just this ong

[pallid echo]

i am on the brink of it but i just got my raptors

[fluid ravine]

Id returned them

Jk

[loud zephyr]

since when did Steelseries have lekkers?

[quiet bay]

They have attempted their own switches but didn't work out

[fluid ravine]

It's just me

[fluid ravine]

Omni point switches

[tawdry tree]

stem swap raptors, use them for a few days, if bad, go buy jades

[fluid ravine]

They use HE as well

[quick gulch]

Because you don’t use lekkers and think

Yea these are nice

[pallid echo]

i already did haha but i heard so much good things about jades, ill try them eventually

[loud zephyr]

never heard of them, great to know

[quiet bay]

steelseries such a money grubbing company

[fluid ravine]

Literally

[quiet bay]

they could've made HE switches but only did it when Wooting did it because they saw it was successful

[tawdry tree]

Steelseries was the first to implement HE into gaming keyboards to be fair.

[pallid echo]

honestly i might jsut make a whole new build but idk if i wanna buy another wooting or just change my existing one

[quiet bay]

they didn't develop it >:v

[quick gulch]

They had their apex long before wooting no?

[fluid ravine]

I just need new he switches and key caps

[tawdry tree]

What do you mean?

[fluid ravine]

I don't know when my time will come

[tawdry tree]

Yes, I think 1-2 years?

[pallid echo]

i thought the apex didnt have rapid trigger but just 0.1mm actuation at first?

[tawdry tree]

They didn’t

[quick gulch]

It didn’t have rapid trigger

[quiet bay]

Im sure they had the budget and team to further do something with HE

[quick gulch]

Just had an adjustable actuation point

[fluid ravine]

The adjustable actuations yes
But rapid trigger no

[quick gulch]

Which was pretty cool at the time

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

[pallid echo]

ahhhh i forgot it could adjust

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

[tawdry tree]

Steelseries stopped innovating after the sales of the Apex Pro TKL and since Wooting they’re feeling it.

[loud zephyr]

I might build another, local store will stock Frog Mini with the custom plate here in Aus

[tawdry tree]

Apex Pro TKL was a really solid keyboard.

I enjoyed it while it lasted.

[pallid echo]

maybe ill cop the module but idk what ill do with my other one lol, a frog mini build sounds amazing tho have fun!

[quiet bay]

Display 😎

[loud zephyr]

yah, the based tray mount is getting long in the tooth

[pallid echo]

maybe maybe

[quick gulch]

Who’s making the plate?

[pallid echo]

i think i wanna get an e-white case with pyga keycaps or something like that

[quick gulch]

I mean honestly plates from China are like stupidly cheap anyway

[loud zephyr]

Cafege, Sydney store

[pallid echo]

oh yeah what material is the plate?

[quick gulch]

Just order on taobao if you have a frog

[fluid ravine]

Shall I boost server for no reason

[quick gulch]

Yea what material and are they cutting it ?

[fluid ravine]

@normal schooner ?

[loud zephyr]

Cheaper if I buy the case here and comes with the plate. Shipping is just a shit show

[normal schooner]

wat?

[fluid ravine]

?

[quick gulch]

Nah, my plate came in 1 week from China

[normal schooner]

nice flex but we got way too much boosters

[quick gulch]

And dhl from sg is insane quick too

[loud zephyr]

kinda missing my point

[quick gulch]

I guess if you want to same some money on shipping it’s nice

[untold wigeon]

do you have enough flexers tho

[quick gulch]

But I don’t know if you’ll be saving much buying everything locally

[untold wigeon]

you forgot the import fees

[normal schooner]

still i am very grateful for every single one of you

[quick gulch]

We play them through gst anyway

[untold wigeon]

for me ordering from china isn't even worth it below 100 bucks

[loud zephyr]

buying the case from Geon is about 50 bucks shipping, hence why I'd rather have it packaged as one. And Cafege is goated, local vendors >> everyone else

[untold wigeon]

i'll just be fucked in the ass by customs fees

[quick gulch]

Yea not for us though

[untold wigeon]

how grateful

[quick gulch]

Import fee was like $3 I think

[untold wigeon]

on my 164 kbdfans order i paid 220 for in the end lmao

[fluid ravine]

I'm not flexing

[quick gulch]

I mean you’ll be paying close to that in shipping anyway right? Unless you’re in sydney

[loud zephyr]

lol not even close

[quick gulch]

Obviously support the vendors but I don’t think it’ll be much cheaper

It’s like what $30 instead

Maybe $20

And then you have to deal with auspost

[normal schooner]

I mean you are already pink, i phrased that bad

[loud zephyr]

that's still money in my pocket, a dollar saved is still a dollar

[quick gulch]

Fair enough

[fluid ravine]

I want to be more pink

Pinkest of PINKK

[quick gulch]

Still though do you know if they’re cutting the plates and what material they are?

I’m assuming they’re just buying geons wooting plate

[fluid ravine]

But orange better

[quick gulch]

And stocking it here

[normal schooner]

dw tenz youre already part of the cool kids

[quick gulch]

Since it’s only on his sg store

[fluid ravine]

really?!!!

Weoew

[loud zephyr]

interest check covered pretty much every plate material available. unknown at this point which they'll run with. I'm not overly fussed with plate material though

[fluid ravine]

Guys Arden said I'm cool >:D

[loud zephyr]

And so he should

[normal schooner]

Tirade told me he bought you a game sometime ago

[quick gulch]

Oh it’s a gb for plates?

[loud zephyr]

No

[fluid ravine]

Hm?

[normal schooner]

was it cs?

[fluid ravine]

Wut?

[quick gulch]

Fair enough, interesting that they’d even do an ic for such a small number of plates

[fluid ravine]

Dunno whatchu talking abt

[quick gulch]

I guess they want to know what to order in

[normal schooner]

cant remember its too late. or maybe u didnt have cs

[fluid ravine]

I have cs2 downloaded

[untold wigeon]

cs is fucking free

[normal schooner]

its 02:40

[fluid ravine]

Am?

[normal schooner]

ya

[quick gulch]

Cs is fake free

[fluid ravine]

Stay awake

I make you coffee

CAWfeeee

No sleeping

[twin marten]

I heard the magnetic jade switch is only 3.5mm

Is that going to be updated in the firmware)

[fluid ravine]

No that just mean you can't set anything past 3.5

It won't detect after 3.5mm

[tawdry tree]

Calder said he’d see if he can stock the Jades on Wooting’s store so he’ll probably want them fully functioning before then.

[fluid ravine]

So you can set the actuation from .1 to 3.5

[fluid ravine]

Oh shi?

Thats be sick

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[pallid echo]

jades on the wooting store would be amazing

[tawdry tree]

Wooting need to sell everything man