#🔧│keyboard_modding

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harsh dove
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Yeah one just does it better than the other

stray otter
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Ah

harsh dove
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Gummy o ring is more floating inside the case whereas burger mount, you’re still screwed into the standoffs

wary pollen
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but Burger mount uses small silicone o rings between the PCB and case, while this gasket mount has the isolation at the plate

harsh dove
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Right

wary pollen
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true gummy o ring uses cutouts on the PCB so it contacts the corresponding mounting posts in the case

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like what I did on my Blade 60

stray otter
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I dunno. I might just wait for the O rings since I like the idea of not screwing the damn thing in period.

wary pollen
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see those grooves aroudn the perimete of the PCB?

stray otter
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Yeah.

wary pollen
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that's where the mounting posts in the case (the wooden posts) slot in and contacts the o ring

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so the Wooting can't be a true Gummy O ring without any cutouts

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I've considered the dremel

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but too many traces around the edge

stray otter
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Hmm.

wary pollen
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but I found a workaround

stray otter
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Yeah I don't want to mod the PCB.

wary pollen
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which is only applicable on the Blade 60 lol

floral barn
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Thanks

harsh dove
floral barn
harsh dove
stable kindle
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cant*

wary pollen
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you can, but it's better not to

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minimizes the hard mounting effect on the sound and feel

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that thunky sound tray mount has near the screws

stable kindle
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so if you swap out the couple stabs to a non screw in doesnt that defeat the purpose of wanting the screwed ins? is the gummy o ring that much superior to a burger? or am i thinking about this all wrong

fallow belfry
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I destroy my wooting i buy l45

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And i do it wrong

harsh dove
fallow belfry
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What i need to do

floral barn
harsh dove
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I honestly have no idea. As you haven’t described what is wrong. @fallow belfry

crimson sky
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💀

fallow belfry
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I install the l45 without switch puller

harsh dove
# crimson sky WTF is that

Looks like a brass plate with a silicone adhesive over the top , as far as the PCB idk, definitely custom dremel cut outs for the gummy ring and some micropore medical tape across the flex points

fallow belfry
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What can i do with the pcb

harsh dove
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lol

crimson sky
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but it is incredibly cursed

harsh dove
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I’d hope so

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Idk about cursed

crimson sky
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just buy a ciel 💀

harsh dove
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Lmao

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No

wary pollen
harsh dove
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Yanno I kind thought that at first

cyan adder
crimson sky
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yea the PCB is fine

harsh dove
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But then I thought maybe you’re just good at dremeling

crimson sky
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the case is the concerning part

wary pollen
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It's just a sheet of brass cut to size to fit the bottom of the Blade60

harsh dove
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Yeah thought so

dreamy drum
# cyan adder My last sound test

that sounds really good, and i can't really tell but it seems like you're beating the shit out of those keys for the sake of the audio of the video -- maybe i'm wrong but if thats the case casual typing must sound fucking heavenly

wary pollen
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Killed case ping with that amount alone. Less to do w/ the weight and more the surface area

crimson sky
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bruh

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just don't use a CF plate

wary pollen
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Bruh tf you mean? CF doesn't add to any ping 💀

harsh dove
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I was gonna say..

cyan adder
crimson sky
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also still

harsh dove
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CF plate is just stiff but no ping

crimson sky
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why go through all that effort

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when there is a much simpler solution

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aka

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don't use a blade60

dreamy drum
wary pollen
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Just felt like doing it. Don't really care about convenience w/ that project
Edit: Also really into the desing of the Blade 60 sooooo

dreamy drum
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which i feel like is what stock wooting kind of achieves is a nice balance between creamy & thock

cyan adder
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gummy o ring/switches tape mod/hand lubing/polyfill are the mods that actually made the biggest change in my setup

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its actually going too much creamy for me, i would like a less creamy and more thocky profile but seems like i cant achieve it

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still satysfying to type on btw

dreamy drum
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i feel like the polyfill might be whats holding you back

cyan adder
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just even alt tabbing to swap windows is satisfying

dreamy drum
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xD

dreamy drum
cyan adder
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I had 0 too 2 months ago ahah

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u learn little by little

dreamy drum
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conveniently enough i bought an ex girlfriend a giant teddy bear and 2 extra polyfill bags to get it extra stuffed, left over with one bag kekw finally time to do something with it besides have it be a back-board for shooting airsoft bb's in my room

cyan adder
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and alot of ppl here learn you alot of things like little tenz, pochizo and tirade were my best friends out there to mod my wooting, cam is also a good helper here since he has tested alot of things

cyan adder
dreamy drum
dreamy drum
harsh dove
dreamy drum
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i shall stuff my board to all living hell and it will be the most mute sound on planet earth

harsh dove
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lol I can help if you want muted sounds

dreamy drum
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my board will become so muted it will passively emit white noise

dreamy drum
harsh dove
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I coined my build “Ninja Thock” before cause it was like a muted thocc to me but it’s also kinda creamy

dreamy drum
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is this the ninja thock?

harsh dove
dreamy drum
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Yeah that sounds really good, maybe just a little too much on the thock side, but it definitely is closer to what i'm looking for compared to the stock wooting

harsh dove
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Do one mod at a time tho

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That would be my best advice really

stray otter
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Got the O rings direct from Graveshift

static tendon
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I know it’s a fairly new release but has anyone tried to swap out the rubber feet to slimmer feet on the alumaze60 to bring it down even lower?

bronze grove
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Just stop using any

static tendon
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For reference the rubber feet here since they do sit a bit tall even with their stock feet height

harsh dove
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I’m sad about my alumaze60 slim feet

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They’re off balance

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So my keyboard wobbles with the slim feet

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So I have to use the big ones

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Yeah it’s not a huge deal breaker but was kinda sad about it

stray tiger
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@fluid ravine dont forget I'm always watching

fluid ravine
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HEY

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:(

fluid ravine
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the friction mount is just keeping it in the case

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while doing its other little funzy effect

harsh dove
stray tiger
harsh dove
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Lmaooo

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Love it

stray tiger
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It's like a horoscope lol. It's a complete guess but it applies to like 90% of the people who read it so they think it's true haha

fluid ravine
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hey mann i didnt give consent (jk idgaf)

stray tiger
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Maybe it was the camera I hid inside the case I sent you 🤔

harsh dove
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Bros got the neurolink camera

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Embedded in your skull

stray tiger
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A wise man once said "Nothing is free. If you get something for free then you're the product"

harsh dove
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A wide man

stray tiger
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Haha and wise

fluid ravine
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wait..

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👀

harsh dove
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Yes you are

fluid ravine
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It because im asian huh

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make sense

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made from a factory

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then got adopted from the garbage

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cus im a failure

harsh dove
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Bro what

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😭

fluid ravine
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lmao dogekek

harsh dove
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I’m weak

fluid ravine
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Fk i cant think of a joke for that

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wheres my brain

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wait i got no brain

harsh dove
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It’s being monitored by Tirade

fluid ravine
stray tiger
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Yup

quiet bay
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Pls veho deliver my wooting uwu today 😔

glacial wind
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For those waiting for raptor us stock:

stray otter
# glacial wind

I'm definitely interested in trying as long as I'm not paying more for the shipping than the switches.

quiet bay
fluid ravine
sage flicker
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Anyone interested in my Lekker for discount? Trying to phase out, going for a custom keyboard soon, but inbetween going to get a thinner keyboard, 70-80% version.

harsh dove
stable kindle
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the fk is raptor

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and why are you nerds so excited for it

harsh dove
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GEONWORKS

This is only compatible with some keyboards that support the Hall Effect. Not compatible with Cherry MX. Confirmed compatible keyboards are : Wooting 60HE, Corsair K70 MAX, and SteelSeries APEX PRO (Non-RGB) Keyboards without calibration will require re-adjustment of the trigger position as the input position may be sl

stable kindle
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but why the hype?

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looked like the price went up

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looks*

harsh dove
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Just a new HE switch

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Something new to try

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That’s compatible with the Wooting

stable kindle
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whats the claimed difference compared to the lekkers

fluid ravine
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And different top housing material!!

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nylon :D

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reduced stem wobble

harsh dove
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Claimed differed is less housing and stem wobble

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And slightly better sound

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And yeah diff materials

stable kindle
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stem wobble a thing i should be annoyed about on the lekkers?

fluid ravine
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so no need to do switch taape mod

stable kindle
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they have more than cherrys mx?

fluid ravine
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some people notice it

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i dont

harsh dove
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I personally didn’t notice it that much, I felt like it was fine but I like them a lot more after doing switch tape mod

stable kindle
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ok i guess i will do that too then

fluid ravine
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i dont even care about housing wobble

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its just the sound for me

stable kindle
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then why

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o

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makes them more thocc? creamy?

harsh dove
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Reduces chatter

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(Switch tape mod)

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Mutes the sound of the stem hitting the top housing

fluid ravine
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ever since i or anybody received their wootings
first goal is to make it thocky

stable kindle
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i dislike talking to you guys sometimes

fluid ravine
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but the real goal was to make it sound solid as possible then go from there

stable kindle
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makes me notice things about my keyboard that i havent noticed before

fluid ravine
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LMAO

thick brook
stable kindle
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makes waiting for the module feel even longer

harsh dove
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Tbh

stable kindle
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but i need the info

harsh dove
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Lmao

stable kindle
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for the mods

harsh dove
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No you don’t

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The less you know

fluid ravine
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if you have tray mount should notice that the spacebar or the board is uneven

harsh dove
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The better

stable kindle
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yes i do

fluid ravine
quiet bay
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🙏 😔

stable kindle
fluid ravine
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lol

stable kindle
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so tray mount is different to the gummy o ring>?

fluid ravine
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;-; duh

stable kindle
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OK THEN

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lol

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ok answer this question for me

fluid ravine
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tray mount is screwing the pcb to the case

sage flicker
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think main benefit of the RAPTOR is total travel is 3mm vs 4mm on lekker.

stable kindle
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ahh i see

fluid ravine
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remember the HE is adjustable

stable kindle
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but why would that make a difference to gameplay

fluid ravine
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exactly

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its the decimals that matter

sage flicker
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what. are u guys noobs. total travel reduction is huge for gaming

stable kindle
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for a regular switch i can see

fluid ravine
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"total"

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thats not the point of HE

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well

sage flicker
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i know that's not the point of HE. but raptor takes it to next level

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3mm vs 4mm is great

fluid ravine
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3mm is better????

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while the software is adjustable

sage flicker
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faster bottom out = faster typing and faster smashing

stable kindle
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but for a HE switch with rapidfire enabled it shouldnt matter

fluid ravine
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dude wtf are you on

stable kindle
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not with rapid fire it doesnt matter

sage flicker
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lol...

fluid ravine
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"bottom out"

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thats a physical thing

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something you feel

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and hear

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if that makes sense

stable kindle
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@sage flickerinstead of loling tell us why it makes a difference to gaming performance

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im genuinely curious

fluid ravine
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Like dude
you're defeating the purpose of adjustable actuation points

sage flicker
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because in gaming you usually bottom out when hitting keys. If you bottom out faster, you can press quicker etc. Also obvious for typing.

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if you don't bottom out at all, then fine.

stable kindle
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?

fluid ravine
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ok this guy is on some drugs

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sorry but not sorry

sage flicker
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I must be in the twilight zone.

stable kindle
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lets say that on the raptor you set your actuation at 2.5mm ok

fluid ravine
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yeah go to sleep

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let it out of your system

stable kindle
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and lets also say that you set your actuation for the lekkers at 2.5mm

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both have rapid fire enabled

sage flicker
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Now. Most people bottom out keys right?

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follow the logic

stable kindle
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ok lets bottom it out

fluid ravine
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dude
we had a argument about this in general a few months ago

sage flicker
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relax Tenz. You don't have to agree. If 3mm is worthless to you, then fine.

fluid ravine
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and whoever that person was did not make a single damn point

sage flicker
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but they changed total travel for a reason.

fluid ravine
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you're being that person

stable kindle
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as soon as you let go it resets the trigger for you to press again

fluid ravine
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im just saying

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dont make another one here

sage flicker
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saying what? I said 3mm was best part of Raptor. You don't have to agree.

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there is no argument. grow up.

stable kindle
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?

fluid ravine
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?

stable kindle
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im grown

fluid ravine
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?? what 😂

sage flicker
fluid ravine
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lmao

sage flicker
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blocking this guy.

stable kindle
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ok then

fluid ravine
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lmaooooo

stable kindle
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kk so i have this question

prisma beacon
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Im apart of the pancake batch so i havent recived my keyboard yet but I am curious if I NEED to mod or will stock keys and membrane be good or will I need to upgrade for the best experience

fluid ravine
stable kindle
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people want screw in stabs right over what the 60he keyboard had the non screw ins correct?

prisma beacon
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aka is it okay for me to wait a year maybe before deciding weather or not to mod it

fluid ravine
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you can leave it stock for like a whole year or whatever

stable kindle
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@prisma beaconcan be a degen like us or be a normal person, its up 2 u

stable kindle
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correct?

agile grove
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also someone in this discord said the idea is to make the 60he+ module be the board in the stock wooting

agile grove
prisma beacon
stable kindle
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in what way?

fluid ravine
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for a gaming keyboard its pretty good

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for sound and feel

agile grove
fluid ravine
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but if you want like premium feel and sound go ahead and mod it to your preference

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The only difference between the 60he+ and 60he is just screw in stabs

stable kindle
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@agile grove a wooting member also told me that the price for the module from the badseed video was wrong at $140 and to ignore it

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module was out a day later at $140

prisma beacon
agile grove
fluid ravine
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yes true

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they are

stable kindle
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@agile groveok ok that is also what ive heard

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now

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the module on its own cant use the gummy O ring mod

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so people are removing the screwed in stabs and replaceing it with the other one

sweet cedar
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the screw ins on the he+ module are gateron ink stabs right

prisma beacon
stable kindle
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whats it called click ins?

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so that they can do the gummy 0 ring mod

fluid ravine
agile grove
# stable kindle module was out a day later at $140

yes but theres discounts for all the parts making it cheaper to buy a module with an alumaze and switches compared to the stock wooting (obviously. it also comes with the PC plate which makes the price cheaper aswell.)

stable kindle
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almost big brain

fluid ravine
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Yes in order to do gummy mount with 60he+ is to change the stabs to clip ins

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the main screw in stabs that cause this problem is backspace and spcaebar

stable kindle
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so is the gummy o ring that much better compared to the burger mount that it is worth replacing the screw ins to the clip ins?

fluid ravine
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so your choice is to change them into either plate mount or clip ins

stable kindle
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you still screw the pcb down even if you gummy o ring correct?

fluid ravine
fluid ravine
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friction mount

stable kindle
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so its literally just in there cause the friction from the o ring on the case and board is enough?

fluid ravine
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when inserting the module with the gummy oring into the case it creatse friction making it snug aand tight into the case
causing it not to fall out

stable kindle
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wouldnt that cause the board to move slightly up and down ?

fluid ravine
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gummy mount boards have pcb that has cutouts for the gummy oring to sit on the post
giving that bouncy feel you see

stable kindle
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thanks again man

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great info

fluid ravine
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no problemo

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but if you do gummy mount and you're like me who like gasket performance or bounce
just add somewhat squishy foam into the case like polyfill and you will receive a nice bounce and softer typing feel (the bounce is somewhat noticeable when using polyfill from my experience)

agile grove
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are the raptors worth it for non keyboard enthusiast? im assuming the answer is probably no but I wanna get others' feedback.

fluid ravine
agile grove
fluid ravine
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i wouldnt really know tbh
since it just got released we dont got alot of reviews about it

hard hawk
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Okay I just saw a Twitter post about someone using the lekker stems for the raptor switches and it had no stem wobble or noticeable sound I think.

fluid ravine
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@stable kindle kinda funny how the guy said to grow up even though im still a kid

hard hawk
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Now what I want to know is the stem swap still sensitive or the same?

fluid ravine
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like i am!!

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give me time 😂

fluid ravine
hard hawk
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I heard that the raptors were more sensitive than the lekkers

fluid ravine
hard hawk
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But someone did a stem swap and I was curious

craggy cipher
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Roptor HE has improved some wobble compared to Lekker Switch.
but not perfect

hard hawk
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Ahh I see

fluid ravine
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i dont know what really cause stem wobble but im guessing if they increase the size of the rails of the top housing for like a few or 1mm it should eliminate the stem wobble (again this is a guess i dont know how stem wobble works)

hard hawk
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That’s what I thought of as well

fluid ravine
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ok ima go work on my essay

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cya

hard hawk
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Cya

craggy cipher
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As I posted yesterday, please make a MOD that combines the Lekker Switch stem + Roptor HE housing.
#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Now you have the perfect switch

hard hawk
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Wait I found it

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Am I able to send a link here?

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@fluid ravine

edgy thicket
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oop

fluid ravine
hard hawk
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It’s the lekker stems with the raptor housing

craggy cipher
hard hawk
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A Twitter or YouTube post

fluid ravine
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sure

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go ahead

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i will look at it later

edgy thicket
fluid ravine
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i really need to finish this essay xd

edgy thicket
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is it an issue with the magnet?

hard hawk
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I would guess so since it’s sensitive

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I’m not too concerned abt the stems or anything I just wanted to know if this solved the sensitive problem

edgy thicket
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doesn't wooting autocalibrate each time you plug it in

glacial wind
hard hawk
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Ahh

edgy thicket
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and that broke the keys i touched

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that was the explanation i was given

hard hawk
glacial wind
hard hawk
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OHH YEAHH

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I forgot🧍

glacial wind
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They basically make your wooting not feel or sound like a plasticky gamer keyboard

edgy thicket
glacial wind
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It assumes you use lekkers

edgy thicket
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okay

hard hawk
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Did you try swapping the stems?

edgy thicket
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that's kinda weird that wooting wouldn't add a calibration feature

hard hawk
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Cause I saw one person posted about it

edgy thicket
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cause it's useful for cases like this

glacial wind
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I didn’t bother but if I reopen I might

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But for me current config is just holdover. I’ll probably swap raptors to another board end of the year

hard hawk
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Ahh

edgy thicket
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any other places selling raptor switches now?

glacial wind
edgy thicket
glacial wind
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Rapid trigger is still exact same

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It’s only your starting actuation point is more sensitive

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Everything else is same same

edgy thicket
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how come

glacial wind
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Because that’s just how the pcb is programmed I guess

edgy thicket
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yea but if the magnet is stronger shouldn't it have a higher value throughout the keytravel?

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idk

glacial wind
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But basically there’s no downside anyone has found so far beyond making your starting actuation a bit more sensitive

edgy thicket
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do you own a sayodevice o3c

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with that keypad you can look at the magnet strength of each switch

glacial wind
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In the end any change in sens is just something you can adjust in software

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If it’s too sensitive you just raise actuation or vice versa

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So there’s no real downside

edgy thicket
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it's inconvenient

glacial wind
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And if you’re really worried you can just do the stem swap thing and have the wooting magnet in it

edgy thicket
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yea

glacial wind
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I didn’t change a single setting in mine

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Performs same as ascendent+ games in valorant with just my 0.1 wasd being more sensitive

hard hawk
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Plus you have the ultimate non stem wobble

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It also sounds a bit good ngl

edgy thicket
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but still, i imagine with future keyswitches that might have higher/lower magnet values it's definitely gonna be a problem

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especially if the wooting stems aren't compatible

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any new places selling the switch btw

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or is this still the only site

hard hawk
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From what I heard the switches might be in divinity keys soon

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But I’m buying these off the site cause I have no patience

harsh dove
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Divinikeys will have them soon. They already have an order.

hard hawk
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Holy moly the shipping

craggy cipher
edgy thicket
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omg thank u

craggy cipher
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It seems certain that the magnetic force is strong.

edgy thicket
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sick

hard hawk
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Or did they announce it?

fluid ravine
edgy thicket
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i wonder how the raptor switches compare to the tape mod

harsh dove
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This was from Sno Jed earlier

hard hawk
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Ahhh okay good to know I’ll keep a look out then

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Since I like the regular wooting case a lot I swear doing a gummy o-ring / tray mount is hard asf

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It’s to the point where I’m like nah too much effort back to the burger mount

fluid ravine
loud zephyr
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waptors and a lemon slice

sweet oak
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boobcap

loud zephyr
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but no module lelele

quiet bay
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Why did Veho have to deliver my package 😩

loud zephyr
quiet bay
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10:53pm 🥲

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will they even actually deliver it

loud zephyr
quiet bay
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This one is a replacement for the one that didn't

loud zephyr
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No alternative address you could have used? I sent shit to work and then told me to stop, and now it kinda sucks coming home with packages sitting at the door. Luckily nothing has been stolen

hard hawk
quiet bay
hard hawk
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I plan on doing a bandaid mod, tempest mod, maybe the switch mod, maybe holee mod, and I might try something different other than painters tape

quiet bay
loud zephyr
loud zephyr
quiet bay
loud zephyr
loud zephyr
fluid ravine
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:D

loud zephyr
# fluid ravine >:D

dude when the day comes you should try soldering a keyboard, that shit is zen

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fumes even

misty saddle
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Are there any mods for the Two HE I should be aware of?

loud zephyr
misty saddle
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Wallet looking at me like

loud zephyr
quiet bay
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GYATTTT

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well that's officially the fanciest full alu case i've ever seen

misty saddle
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Looks like the perfect amount of jank too

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I love it lol

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I know prototypes aren't perfect, I just love seeing stuff at all stages

loud zephyr
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for sure and I hope it works out, there must be quite a few 2HE owners out there feeling a bit left out

quiet bay
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yeah uh highly doubt Veho is going to deliver my package lol

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well that's already a bad first experience

onyx pier
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damn raptors are sold out

loud zephyr
gaunt linden
loud zephyr
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there are two versions, mx and he

static root
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The wooting 60he doesn't have pre-lube right?

loud zephyr
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pre-lubed

gaunt linden
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But but …

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The cherry works with the wooting the?

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Tho*

sacred jay
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mx style keycaps work on he switches

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so you could rip off keycaps from a board and use em on your wooting if u want

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but wooting only works with he switches, it has no pins for mx

craggy cipher
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Raptor HE is back in stock

stray tiger
sacred jay
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42-52g effective range i think ive said this like 4 days ago but i need just one store to ship really short lekker size springs

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im feeling 12mm

craggy cipher
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I wanted a spring like that too, so I asked a factory in my country to make it to order, but I was told it would cost about $4 each, so I stopped making it.

loud zephyr
cedar hemlock
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anyone know is L45 better than L60 for fps game?

loud zephyr
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all depends how heavy fingered you are

cedar hemlock
loud zephyr
craggy cipher
# cedar hemlock anyone know is L45 better than L60 for fps game?

it's a matter of preference
If you are nervous and tend to strain your fingers and make malfunctions, you have the option of using the L60.
In addition, you can reduce finger fatigue by changing only the WASD keys that you use for long periods of time to L45.
I recommend trying various things.

loud zephyr
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👍

cedar hemlock
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btw, if i only plan to swap like 4 switches (WASD), is the methond 2 fine? or it may casue damage or something

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weary tree
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The clips holding onto the plate on the top of the switches dont really move

cedar hemlock
weary tree
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I still use it but it scrapes the top clips a little bit

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You can do it yeah but just keep that in mind.

cedar hemlock
plain pivot
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First time ever lubing... took a bit of time but for no mousepad under it I think it came out pretty good?:)

pale aspen
bronze grove
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The raptor bandwagoning is so, so over the top 😄

obsidian dagger
onyx pier
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they are releasing a new colour so that the rgb wont get affected they said around march

minor pond
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Is the ks-20 any good ?

static tendon
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Hello @bronze grove I was wondering if you had any extra photos of your white Alumaze60 case?
How different is the concrete gray compared to white?

pale aspen
dense flower
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKa1hIXnQQ

This guy places the L60 stems into the Raptor housing without adding any hand lubing. He mentioned he prefers it this way. Also he added that although on paper the actuation end force is lighter it feels a little heavier than the L60.

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bronze grove
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You just called it white.

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I have the concrete one.

velvet egret
static tendon
dense flower
velvet egret
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Mixed has a more thock sound to it.

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less chatter too

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wish i could understand what he was saying

dense flower
# velvet egret less chatter too

I agree. My wooting is coming next week. I’ll use it stock for a bit and see whether I want to do any mods or replace anything

dense flower
velvet egret
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i only see i assume japanese in the comments

dense flower
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He also mentioned he strongly believes majority of people will prefer the raptors over the lekker switches

velvet egret
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nvm found one thats english

dense flower
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If if wasn’t so expensive with shipping I would’ve ordered them right away

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First things first. I gotta see how it feels stock

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Who knows. I might just love the way it feels and sounds out of the box and keep it that way

velvet egret
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meh im in no rush i got a module pre-order and imma wait on others to spend their money first on trying these :p

dense flower
# velvet egret yeah exactly

My friend was the one who convinced me to order the 60he. I was on the fence of getting either the Drunkdeer or apex pro

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He said it is amazing stock and won’t be modding it

static tendon
normal shoal
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so good

harsh dove
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Supposedly my Salvation gets here tomorrow but I don’t believe them

silk token
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So I think I figured out how they wired the Wooting Two HE. This is an essentially similar cable I found on Ali Express. The difference would be the gray wire would correspond to shield cable on a standard USB 4 conductor + shield cable. They ground the conductor directly to the USB-C shroud. This makes sense as the USB-C male outer shroud it mates with is grounded in the standard cables.

Anyway, I suspect the Wooting cable splits (Y split) this outer ground at the board/plate side into the 2nd ground for the JST connector and the plate ground cable.

formal snow
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what keycaps will work on the 60he? im like new to all this

molten breach
# silk token So I think I figured out how they wired the Wooting Two HE. This is an essential...

Why is this relevant? In the case you need a replacement please ask Wooting so they can send you one.
If you want to create your own one for customization your should know how the USB Type-C connector should be wired. I forgot the exact wiring. I made a few posts a while back on how such a cable needs to be designed.
Because you need to wire the detection pins (CC pins) correctly otherwise the host would not provide power to the device. This is relevant when you use a USB Type-C to C cable.

finite gate
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if using cherry profile just flip the switch around

formal snow
obsidian dagger
tardy cove
# bronze grove The raptor bandwagoning is so, so over the top 😄

Out of curiosity what makes you say the bandwagoning is over the top? From what I've seen people are just excited to see another vendor of HE switches. That's a big part of what draws people to custom keebs in the first place IMO is fine tuning a keyboard to exactly how you want it to be 😁

bronze grove
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People are touting the Raptor switch to be the next coming of Jesus, the uber switch to save all HE switches ever.

sand oasis
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I assume that this will be the same for almost every HE switch release

tardy cove
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Haha well that's a bummer. I think anyone who thinks it's going to be a night and day difference will be let down. But I am excited to see a manufacturer other than gateron in the world. More custom switches means more options for those looking to fine tune how they like things!

bronze grove
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The KS20 from Gateron did receive some initial hype. But nothing like these raptors.

The hype will have you believe it completely solves stem grind, sounds like a dream and it makes you pancakes on saturdays.

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Hopefully once the switches are more thoroughly tested with reviewers, it'll be more clear exactly what to expect.

glacial wind
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honestly it is a night and day difference from lekkers as far as stem wobble goes

sand oasis
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im tempted to order them

glacial wind
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i think the hype is because the wobbly feel of lekkers was pretty much the one real downside left for using a wooting. The switches just feel bad compared to almost any of the popular custom keyboard switches

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raptor he is the first option to exist that actually instantly fixes that and brings wooting up to the level of an entry level custom

tardy cove
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I do agree time will tell how people like them. Atleast from my perspective I think the ks20 was hyped just to have another HE switch in the game. For me the excitement is to have another manufacturer in the game. They might be great they might not. But getting more switches and more options to customize is only a good thing for the scene and for the longevity of HE boards

glacial wind
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I have no idea why people hype the ks20, it's not a real improvement over lekkers

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keyboard modders have a habit of overhyping small sound changes and such. For example hand lube vs factory lube lekkers - some people have said before that it's a big jump in sound, but reality is average person probably barely is able to tell

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raptor he is very different though in that i'd be extremely surprised to find people who can't instantly notice the rattle is gone

tardy cove
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Ya I hope I notice a large difference when mine arrive. I would say my biggest issue with the wooting was the switches from the start. Nothing against gateron specifically but I've never found them to make any of my favorite switches. So the option to try something new is exciting. And I've had luck with bsun switches in the past and heard good things

pale aspen
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l60 l45 and KS20

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Gateron trait dogekek dogekek

upbeat minnow
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Thank you Anders

dense flower
silk token
strange sand
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Hey guys, what are the best thocky key caps I should buy? Im getting the wooting module and would like peoples opinions

glacial wind
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yeah cerakey for sure, but make sure you're not using L45 with those

finite gate
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Couple of people have cerakey on wootings

bronze grove
finite gate
glacial wind
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need that stronger spring to stand the cerakeys weight

finite gate
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is l65 even a thing

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Im so dense

bronze grove
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Tiny spoiler: We have a solution coming that will please cerakey owners.

finite gate
#

o

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Reposted to cerakey disx

glacial wind
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Raptors have already been reviewed a ton in KR community honestly. There's maybe 15+ reviews on various korean places

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all basically same thing, stem wobble greatly reduced

finite gate
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i never really see geon stuff outside of kr and us

wary pollen
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Nylon top helps A LOT with the sound

bronze grove
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The switches aren't GEON

finite gate
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geon sells*

wary pollen
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he doesn't disclose manu for the switches

strange sand
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ahhh nooo :( i wanted the L45 switches since i play alot of CS2/Valorant and i heard the cerakeys are very thocky, thats a shame they dont mix well

bronze grove
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It's not a huge secret. But I'm not one to spoil that.

finite gate
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idk im not he keyboard owner hehe..i am here to steal memes

finite gate
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Springs are fine

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Spacebar is the problem

strange sand
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ahhh i see

wary pollen
finite gate
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It weighs 19.5g which makes space actuation like 15g i cant math

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hooray now you can buy cerakey

karmic rampart
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Separate heavier spring sales👀

wary pollen
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still waiting on long/multistage springs for HE switches

tardy cove
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Heavier long multistage springs would be amazing. I've always loved tactical switches and obv with HE switches that's not an option haha

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I also would love a very heavy spring specifically for my spacebar. That's how I have it on all my custom boards

strange sand
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if i cant get CeraKeys, what is the next best thocky keycaps?

finite gate
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Which are 3x more expensive that cerakey and have pingy noise

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So probably osume or nicepbt, they are 1.7mm thick pbt

wary pollen
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I really like the sound of XMi Dye sub caps on a POM plate

finite gate
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i do still recommend cerakey though, heres a video (not mine)

unborn cargo
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is it safe to use moleskin tape for the tape mod instead of painters tape?

wary pollen
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I swap beteen this config and my CF build whenever I want a change in sound

wary pollen
unborn cargo
wary pollen
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yeah, that should fit just fine, really just depends whether you have case foam or not

unborn cargo
wary pollen
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I'd go with the option of no foam, and start from there

unborn cargo
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alr. thank you very much saw a video of moleskin mod and it made so much difference

pale aspen
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really good set for $24

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customization is no.1 in the market

unborn cargo
pale aspen
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no sadly

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21kb is the way for american

unborn cargo
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oh alr. thank you tho

pale aspen
wary pollen
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yup, and doubleshot ABS Evil Dolch clones, but that's mostly an aesthetic config lol

wary pollen
pale aspen
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Wooting60FrogMiniPlatev2

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is this the plate file for Frog mini u use?

wary pollen
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I used that file for the POM plate

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the file for my CF plate is the leafspring without any other relief cuts anywhere else

pale aspen
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could you send CF plate file in my DM?

wary pollen
pale aspen
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i will see if there is any update for n680, or i will buy frog mini and slap wooting pcb into it dogekek

wary pollen
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I'm just waiting on a JST capable HE pcb so I can use it in the upcoming F2-60

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daughterboard capable 60HE would be insane for custom builds

pale aspen
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i totally forgot that F2-60 exist lmao

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it has been like 2 years

wary pollen
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there's a new Proto out, so hopes are high for 2024

strange sand
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should i get the wooting wrist rest?

sand oasis
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completely depends

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i personaly dont use one

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but if you think the typing angle might not be perfect for you then you can try it

wary pollen
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I would normally use a wrist rest, but the front height is so low on the Frog that I can play without it it just fine. Been using it on other boards though

strange sand
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hmmm okay ill hold off buying it for now, i can always get it afterwards

wary pollen
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I'd recommend it for higher profile builds

sand oasis
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yep

strange sand
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im getting the tofu60 redux, should i get the wrist rest there?

sand oasis
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i have the redux and it doesnt feel uncomforable without a rest

pale aspen
sand oasis
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but i dont do that much typing aside from when im playing games if you type a lot you might like to have one

wary pollen
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Tofu's around the middle in terms of profile

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but I personally use a wristrest on it

sand oasis
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i might get one for general use but wont use it when im playing games

glacial wind
pale aspen
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mechkey is already salty about it

glacial wind
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I saw one review of the Akko which has major software issues with rapid trigger still and the title is “this board will change gaming” lol

obsidian dagger
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always is

glacial wind
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Keyboard reviewers are some of the worst at reviewing gaming features, entire review just took akkos word that rapid trigger stuff worked without testing and realising it’s still broken

wary pollen
wary pollen
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Back on the topic of keycaps, I really like the sound of the alphas on PBT, but the spacebar just doesn't hit the same spot as ABS

pale aspen
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Rakka is also interesting, they cliam real 0.1mm

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gb closed tho

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i keep monitoring chinese community for news about it

wary pollen
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honestly HE boards are one hell of a beast to take up for board designers

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as you gotta get both hardware AND software right to a high standard for it to be a good implementation

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Great job on Wooting for the work on RT and Tachyon

glacial wind
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i'm honestly impressed a bit by geon's work at gathering feedback and such. I didn't even realized until yesterday that he messaged me a couple times asking for feedback when he saw I was interested in the raptors

wary pollen
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That's actually how I got the Raptors lol

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he dm'd me out of the blue and asked me about my build experience regarding HE boards

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especially cuz of the DIY BS I pulled with the PSD60 gasket (picture a lunatic w/ a brand new 60HE PCB on top of a plate and a drill on the other hand, about to drill in standoff holes onto the plate), and the Frog build didn't hurt my chances either

pale aspen
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QMK/VIA with HE intregation possible?

wary pollen
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yes and no

glacial wind
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there was a screenshot of one implementation for ec board in keebs talk channel by pronin other day

wary pollen
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for basic functions that are already there, it can work

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but the analog features have no support through QMK/VIA

strange sand
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Does the burger mount affect the sound profile of a keyboard or is it mostly for feel? And should i do it if i want a Thocky sound?

sage flicker
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think I read that burger mount isolates the noise from switches from the case, so yeah I think it gets thockier.

old swallow
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its mostly for sound, it doesnt really affect the feel

robust bramble
#

can someone recommend a nice budget case for the wooting 60 he?

spice herald
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Anybody know what size o ring I need to gasket mount my alumaze build?

stray otter
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I ordered the Graveshift medium on Nix's rec but I don't know the dimensions.

spice herald
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Alright sweet - I’ll check it out now

sand oasis
spice herald
stray otter
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Not a clue, bud.

spice herald
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All good figured I’d see

stray otter
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I just took the advice and ran with it.

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Dunno where you are, but for me it was less that $10 with shipping in the US.

spice herald
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Yeah that’s where I’m at too - just did some research and the A number is a hardness scale. The higher the #A the harder the ring is

stray otter
glad ruin
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Most reviewers are not pro level gamers, or even good

unkempt crystal
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That’s a lot of krytox 205

marble shuttle
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👀

harsh dove
spice herald
harsh dove
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Gotcha, yeah that’s what I use.

ionic bay
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also i am watching the stream and saw something about a 2HE alu case?

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can someone point me towards this?

glad ruin
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The o rings that come with the module are for burger mounting it right?

molten breach
# silk token Well we texted back and forth about the ground wires and you said they could be ...

I don't know what you mean.

Ground wires should never be ignored and I never wrote that! I wrote that I'm not sure about how to properly handle the shielding ground and if that should be connected to common ground of the device side. This is by no way to be taken as ignoring it.

There is a huge difference between leaving something unconnected on purpose and don't care about it and so ignoring it.

I also changed my point and wrote that I now believe it should be connected.

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When you buy such an assembled connector make sure that the CC pins are wired up correctly with the correct resistance. I don't even remember if these should be connected to ground or Vcc.

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If I don't forget it, I will check if the shield is connected on the cable to ground or on the board for the Wootings.

agile grove
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My brother thinks im stupid for spending 300 dabloons on a custom wooting

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he simply doesnt understand the beauty of the wooting.

harsh dove
agile grove
elder dune
sharp yew
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how do cerakey users cope with the winter

obsidian dagger
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heated keyboard

polar girder
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Ordered the raptors

harsh dove
devout torrent
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anyone had a bad ks-20 switch?

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got a friend who has a board that has ks-20 not working

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some work some dont its friggin weird

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but other switches work fine

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I think his ks-20s are bad

cunning nimbus
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Are the Raptor HE’s good enough stock as is or do they need to be lubed/filmed?

glacial wind
marble shuttle
devout torrent
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just never seen one

devout torrent
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least wobble that way

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shout out to the Japanese community for being so awesome

sacred jay
marble shuttle
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you have to buy it it shouldnt be expensive atm

sacred jay
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wooting or other he

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could be bad sensor

cunning nimbus
glacial wind
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I’m honestly contemplating if I should play around with the stem swap thing

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But I already hand lubed 90 of them, opening them up again right away might be too annoying even for me

untold wigeon
celest wedge
devout torrent
glacial wind
devout torrent
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they work with lekker stems

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so magnet or sensor is busted

harsh dove
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I’ll probably just wait for the new Raptors coming out in March

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Although I do realllyyyyy like the red and black of these ones (fave colors)

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Maybe I snag both idk yet

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Think I’d love to do like my black salvation case with the raptors and a carbon fiber plate

marble shuttle
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march

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too far

harsh dove
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For the RGB ones

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I’ll probably just get these red and black ones since that’s my fave colors

marble shuttle
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so sat it is march

harsh dove
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And March isn’t too far when you’re already waiting for the module in February

marble shuttle
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true

harsh dove
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Be here before you know it

untold wigeon
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whats so good bout raptors

harsh dove
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Nothing

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They’re terrible

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Don’t buy them

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Overhyped

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Got some ptfe tape at work

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I’ll do plumbers mod when I get home and test it out

polar girder
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Why do I do this to myself lol

harsh dove
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RGB Friendly version

polar girder
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Oh I don’t care about rgb

harsh dove
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Me either really

polar girder
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Same material just different color?

harsh dove
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I just run white RGB anyway

polar girder
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But what if they use a diff material and it sounds better???

harsh dove
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I kinda hope they do lol

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Just to give more of a reason to buy

polar girder
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So I can buy my fourth set of switches for the 60HE

harsh dove
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Haha exactly

polar girder
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Yeah sweet, dude

harsh dove
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Like I said tho , I’ll most likely buy these red and black ones once DiviniKeys has them up

polar girder
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Yeah I ordered them. We shall see

quiet bay
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Yuhhh December Wooting Logo!

obsidian dagger
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hats up

fluid ravine
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i should find mine

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should wear it for my pfp

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dfjsakl;djafskl;fdsjalk;fdsajkl;fdsajdfs

quiet bay
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I should edit mine

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brb

fluid ravine
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gonna wash my mouse pad meanwhile

quiet bay
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yuhh

obsidian dagger
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nice

fluid ravine
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i cant find it :(

quiet bay
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My cousin's keycaps came!!

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and still veho has yet to tell me anything

cinder merlin
#

Decided to go back from gummy mount to burger mount, I think burger produces a more muted sound so I prefer that lol

cunning nimbus
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Raptors just came in and the hype is definitely warranted. These make my Wooting sound closer to some of my custom keyboards. Now just gotta test how they feel in Val.

cinder merlin
untold wigeon
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Are they better for n terms of performance

cunning nimbus
cunning nimbus
agile grove
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my tofu redux just arrived! now I just gotta wait for the module...

cinder merlin
untold wigeon
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Ight

cunning nimbus
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Also shipping was quicker than expected. Ordered Tuesday and arrived today.

harsh dove
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So the keys are more sensitive

untold wigeon
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True

harsh dove
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Other than that, people said they perform the same as lekkers

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Just faster bottom out

cinder merlin
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that is the only place I've seen them being sold

harsh dove
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DiviniKeys has an order coming to their warehouse

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For US

cinder merlin
harsh dove
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Right yeah

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Hopefully soon

cunning nimbus
cinder merlin
cinder merlin
cunning nimbus
cinder merlin
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ah, 3 day delivery

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is actually pretty great

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i expected like 1-2 weeks

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xD

cunning nimbus
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Yeah DHL is goated

cinder merlin
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its 61 keys correct?

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at least for the board

cunning nimbus
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Yeah 61 keys on the Wooting

cinder merlin
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any change on the rgb?

cunning nimbus
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I turned off RGB so not sure but I imagine with the red tint there would be a change

cinder merlin
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ah ic ic

marble shuttle
harsh dove
harsh dove
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I’m mid west and shipping was $57

cunning nimbus
harsh dove
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That’s wild

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Wonder why it’s double for me

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Both being in the U.S.

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I would’ve bought it with $24 shipping but $57 is more than the item itself

hallow cove
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I’m also Midwest and it’s $24 for me. That’s really odd why it’s so much for you

harsh dove
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Yeah doesn’t make sense, I’m in Colorado

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They acting like they have to ship to Mars

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I’ve never seen shipping that high on anything I’ve purchased

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No matter the country

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I went ahead and sent an email though cause I’m curious to know why my shipping is more than double your guy’s

marble shuttle
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why these shipping like just akko they are really good at it it is so low price

harsh dove
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Like why $57

marble shuttle
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this is same when i order from lethal gaming 😄

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60 dolar

harsh dove
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Most I’ve ever paid for shipping is like $25

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From any country

marble shuttle
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57 is deadass

cunning nimbus
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Yeah something isn’t right there. Maybe reach out to their support or Discord?

harsh dove
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Yeah doesn’t seem right

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Feels like a scam

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I asked in their discord and got told it’s 6:48am on a Saturday there so

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Aka fuck off and come back at a later time

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I wake up at 4-5am everyday but whatever

stray otter
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I dunno who posted about Divinikey carrying the Raptors but does anyone know what that timeline looks like?

sand oasis
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Shipping 20 dollars to uk which is a bit long

harsh dove
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Sno Jed posted it and DiviniKeys themselves said they didn’t know

sand oasis
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Might just do it

harsh dove
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They said they have the order placed already but no shipping date @stray otter

stray otter
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Gotcha

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I'm not in any rush but I'm down to try as long as you don't get butt fucked on shipping.

harsh dove
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Yeah just don’t live in Colorado I guess and you’ll be fine

stray otter
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I don't really care enough to try the 45s but a new housing is interesting

harsh dove
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For everyone except me it seems like shipping is $20-25

untold wigeon
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House

harsh dove
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I live in another dimension tho so shipping is $57 for me only

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Cause I’m special

untold wigeon
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I love going on holiday in the other dimension

harsh dove
quiet bay
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alrightt looks like my wooting uwu will just never deliver to me huh

untold wigeon
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is the foam worth buying

quiet bay
untold wigeon
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how many days is shipping if im in the us

quiet bay
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unless ur like buying the module then yeah buy the foam

untold wigeon
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my wooting foam broke LOL

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i ripped the top part and the thing got shredded

dreamy drum
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dog ate my wooting foam

untold wigeon
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Help the screw in the space bar is going in but won’t tighten

sand oasis
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Doesn’t need to be super tight

untold wigeon
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It won’t screw in

sand oasis
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Have you tried loosening other screws and then trying to screw it

untold wigeon
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Ye

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Should I take the thing apart

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?

sand oasis
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Is that the redux?

untold wigeon
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Yes

sand oasis
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Did you install the gold standoff?

untold wigeon
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Yes

sand oasis
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Hmm idk then

untold wigeon
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Ima redo it all

sand oasis
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Take it out and try again is my guess

untold wigeon
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Alr

steady valley
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Does anyone know where i can order a set of good quality keycaps? I want to be able to customise the colour for each individual keycap, not just pick an existing design

marble shuttle
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Push it Down while trying tightining

untold wigeon
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?

untold wigeon
quiet bay
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What is there to screw if there's nothing to screw

fluid ravine
quiet bay
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yeeee

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christmas pochita style

old swallow
surreal linden
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Anyone know how much polyfill you gotta use for a keyboard?

quiet bay
surreal linden
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You think this is fine?

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Or too much?

finite gate
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Ye that fine

surreal linden
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Okok Ty

finite gate
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polyfill is conductive

surreal linden
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Wdym?

finite gate
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oh

surreal linden
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Like tape mod?

finite gate
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basically polyfill generates heat and can conduct electricity i think so without anything in between = fire

finite gate
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i have a sheet of paper underneath polyfill in my polyfilled boards

surreal linden
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o I see

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Ok

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Should I do the walls of the case too?

finite gate
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dont think so

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Pcb doesnt contact walls

surreal linden
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o ok

finite gate
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especially since its a reduz case too which is made of alu

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if you experience overheating just take some poly out

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metal case acts as heatshrink

surreal linden
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o I see

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I’m taping the bottom

sand oasis
surreal linden
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Also there’s a screw hole in the middle

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Idk if I’m suppose to have a screw there

cinder merlin
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That's only if you want to screw in the middle standoff

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the wooting by default does not screw in the middle standoff

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but u can if u want

surreal linden
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Ah I see

quiet bay
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I am garbage when it comes to screwing in screws so I just use gummy o ring mount lmao

surreal linden
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Kdbfan also doesn’t

cinder merlin
cinder merlin
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i think gummy was a little too pingy for me for the sound profile, somehow burger was a bit more muted

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Everytime I take it out too its like going on battle xD

surreal linden
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Wait how do y’all tell if your keyboard overheats?