#🔧│keyboard_modding
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Ah
Gummy o ring is more floating inside the case whereas burger mount, you’re still screwed into the standoffs
but Burger mount uses small silicone o rings between the PCB and case, while this gasket mount has the isolation at the plate
Right
true gummy o ring uses cutouts on the PCB so it contacts the corresponding mounting posts in the case
like what I did on my Blade 60
I dunno. I might just wait for the O rings since I like the idea of not screwing the damn thing in period.
Yeah.
that's where the mounting posts in the case (the wooden posts) slot in and contacts the o ring
so the Wooting can't be a true Gummy O ring without any cutouts
I've considered the dremel
but too many traces around the edge
Hmm.
but I found a workaround
Yeah I don't want to mod the PCB.
which is only applicable on the Blade 60 lol
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This is the case tirade gifted me.
The one you sent is the low profile gh60
Thanks
Yeah that’s why they just call it friction mounting with the wooting
Your gummy o ring friction mount in that gh60 case seems to have a nice flex. Do you think that would be the same with a Tofu Redux case?
Flex really comes down to the plate and mounting style
so you can screw it down to the case?
cant*
you can, but it's better not to
minimizes the hard mounting effect on the sound and feel
that thunky sound tray mount has near the screws
so if you swap out the couple stabs to a non screw in doesnt that defeat the purpose of wanting the screwed ins? is the gummy o ring that much superior to a burger? or am i thinking about this all wrong
Like Nix said, you can but not recommended
What i need to do
To be more precise: With the same plate and the same gummy o ring friction mount would the Tofu Redux behave similar to that Gh60 case?
I honestly have no idea. As you haven’t described what is wrong. @fallow belfry
Essentially, yes
I install the l45 without switch puller
Looks like a brass plate with a silicone adhesive over the top , as far as the PCB idk, definitely custom dremel cut outs for the gummy ring and some micropore medical tape across the flex points
What can i do with the pcb
I mean yea I can see
lol
but it is incredibly cursed
just buy a ciel 💀
PCB is a Keebcats Denis60, and it has those same cutouts manufacture into it
Yanno I kind thought that at first
My last sound test
yea the PCB is fine
But then I thought maybe you’re just good at dremeling
the case is the concerning part
It's just a sheet of brass cut to size to fit the bottom of the Blade60
Yeah thought so
that sounds really good, and i can't really tell but it seems like you're beating the shit out of those keys for the sake of the audio of the video -- maybe i'm wrong but if thats the case casual typing must sound fucking heavenly
Killed case ping with that amount alone. Less to do w/ the weight and more the surface area
Bruh tf you mean? CF doesn't add to any ping 💀
I was gonna say..
YES ! im also a bit disappointed since i cant get a realistic sounding representation with any microphone, it sounds very muted + less thocky on the record compared to IRL
it doesn't help with resonance
also still
CF plate is just stiff but no ping
why go through all that effort
when there is a much simpler solution
aka
don't use a blade60
Yeah something near the sound you have here is what im trying to go for, maybe described as a creamy, maybe even slightly muted sound profile
Just felt like doing it. Don't really care about convenience w/ that project
Edit: Also really into the desing of the Blade 60 sooooo
which i feel like is what stock wooting kind of achieves is a nice balance between creamy & thock
gummy o ring/switches tape mod/hand lubing/polyfill are the mods that actually made the biggest change in my setup
its actually going too much creamy for me, i would like a less creamy and more thocky profile but seems like i cant achieve it
still satysfying to type on btw
i feel like the polyfill might be whats holding you back
just even alt tabbing to swap windows is satisfying
xD
i also say this with 0 keyboard modding experience
actually u dont need to buy polyfill, 1 layer of stock case foam is good with tofu redux
I had 0 too 2 months ago ahah
u learn little by little
conveniently enough i bought an ex girlfriend a giant teddy bear and 2 extra polyfill bags to get it extra stuffed, left over with one bag
finally time to do something with it besides have it be a back-board for shooting airsoft bb's in my room
and alot of ppl here learn you alot of things like little tenz, pochizo and tirade were my best friends out there to mod my wooting, cam is also a good helper here since he has tested alot of things
actually you need only a very little amount ahah
oh yeah i've stalked a lot of their boards on the posts they made simply just when choosing a keycap set and other things to consider when starting modding
i have an overtly excessive amount of polyfill i could probably help like 20 people in this server do the mod on their keyboard probably even more with the qty i have left over lmfao
I try lol, I’m very open minded I’d like to think
i shall stuff my board to all living hell and it will be the most mute sound on planet earth
lol I can help if you want muted sounds
my board will become so muted it will passively emit white noise
nah i'm not exactly sure what im looking for tbqh, but i think from how i've heard people describe sounds that this might be what i'm looking for?
I coined my build “Ninja Thock” before cause it was like a muted thocc to me but it’s also kinda creamy
is this the ninja thock?
Yes but the sound has changed slightly as that was when I first did my switch tape mod and it’s not fully broken in yet
Yeah that sounds really good, maybe just a little too much on the thock side, but it definitely is closer to what i'm looking for compared to the stock wooting
Appreciate the feedback and yeah definitely experiment with different mods to get the sound you want
Do one mod at a time tho
That would be my best advice really
Got the O rings direct from Graveshift
I know it’s a fairly new release but has anyone tried to swap out the rubber feet to slimmer feet on the alumaze60 to bring it down even lower?
For reference the rubber feet here since they do sit a bit tall even with their stock feet height
I’m sad about my alumaze60 slim feet
They’re off balance
So my keyboard wobbles with the slim feet
So I have to use the big ones
Yeah it’s not a huge deal breaker but was kinda sad about it
Its bounce
@fluid ravine dont forget I'm always watching
Im getting bounce/gasket performance from the case foam
the friction mount is just keeping it in the case
while doing its other little funzy effect
There’s a mom joke in here somewhere
It's like a horoscope lol. It's a complete guess but it applies to like 90% of the people who read it so they think it's true haha
hey mann i didnt give consent (jk idgaf)
Maybe it was the camera I hid inside the case I sent you 🤔
Ooo
Bros got the neurolink camera
Embedded in your skull
A wise man once said "Nothing is free. If you get something for free then you're the product"
A wide man
Haha and wise
i guess im the product
wait..
👀
Yes you are
It because im asian huh
make sense
made from a factory
then got adopted from the garbage
cus im a failure
lmao 
I’m weak
It’s being monitored by Tirade

Yup
I'm definitely interested in trying as long as I'm not paying more for the shipping than the switches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH2R_bpSKCg interesting
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ooo thaats nice
Anyone interested in my Lekker for discount? Trying to phase out, going for a custom keyboard soon, but inbetween going to get a thinner keyboard, 70-80% version.
Love you
This is only compatible with some keyboards that support the Hall Effect. Not compatible with Cherry MX. Confirmed compatible keyboards are : Wooting 60HE, Corsair K70 MAX, and SteelSeries APEX PRO (Non-RGB) Keyboards without calibration will require re-adjustment of the trigger position as the input position may be sl
whats the claimed difference compared to the lekkers
Claimed differed is less housing and stem wobble
And slightly better sound
And yeah diff materials
stem wobble a thing i should be annoyed about on the lekkers?
so no need to do switch taape mod
they have more than cherrys mx?
I personally didn’t notice it that much, I felt like it was fine but I like them a lot more after doing switch tape mod
ok i guess i will do that too then
Reduces chatter
(Switch tape mod)
Mutes the sound of the stem hitting the top housing
ever since i or anybody received their wootings
first goal is to make it thocky
i dislike talking to you guys sometimes
but the real goal was to make it sound solid as possible then go from there
makes me notice things about my keyboard that i havent noticed before
LMAO
real
pssst
makes waiting for the module feel even longer
Yeah you should ignore us
Tbh
but i need the info
Lmao
for the mods
if you have tray mount should notice that the spacebar or the board is uneven
The better
yes i do
true
🙏 😔
so thats the gummy o ring? or what
so tray mount is different to the gummy o ring>?
;-; duh
tray mount is screwing the pcb to the case
think main benefit of the RAPTOR is total travel is 3mm vs 4mm on lekker.
ahh i see
nah
remember the HE is adjustable
but why would that make a difference to gameplay
what. are u guys noobs. total travel reduction is huge for gaming
for a regular switch i can see
i know that's not the point of HE. but raptor takes it to next level
3mm vs 4mm is great
faster bottom out = faster typing and faster smashing
but for a HE switch with rapidfire enabled it shouldnt matter
dude wtf are you on
not with rapid fire it doesnt matter
lol...
"bottom out"
thats a physical thing
something you feel
and hear
if that makes sense
@sage flickerinstead of loling tell us why it makes a difference to gaming performance
im genuinely curious
Like dude
you're defeating the purpose of adjustable actuation points
because in gaming you usually bottom out when hitting keys. If you bottom out faster, you can press quicker etc. Also obvious for typing.
if you don't bottom out at all, then fine.
?
I must be in the twilight zone.
lets say that on the raptor you set your actuation at 2.5mm ok
and lets also say that you set your actuation for the lekkers at 2.5mm
both have rapid fire enabled
ok lets bottom it out
dude
we had a argument about this in general a few months ago
relax Tenz. You don't have to agree. If 3mm is worthless to you, then fine.
and whoever that person was did not make a single damn point
but they changed total travel for a reason.
you're being that person
as soon as you let go it resets the trigger for you to press again
saying what? I said 3mm was best part of Raptor. You don't have to agree.
there is no argument. grow up.
?
?
im grown
?? what 😂
Was talking to Mr Tenz over here. But I know I shouldn't at this point.
lmao
blocking this guy.
ok then
lmaooooo
kk so i have this question
Im apart of the pancake batch so i havent recived my keyboard yet but I am curious if I NEED to mod or will stock keys and membrane be good or will I need to upgrade for the best experience

people want screw in stabs right over what the 60he keyboard had the non screw ins correct?
aka is it okay for me to wait a year maybe before deciding weather or not to mod it
its your choice
you can leave it stock for like a whole year or whatever
the module has screw ins
@prisma beaconcan be a degen like us or be a normal person, its up 2 u
right and that was cause it is considered superior
correct?
also someone in this discord said the idea is to make the 60he+ module be the board in the stock wooting
yes
is it bad stock and needs to be modded ( new to keyboard modding)
in what way?
your choice
for a gaming keyboard its pretty good
for sound and feel
I should specify a wooting member
but if you want like premium feel and sound go ahead and mod it to your preference
The only difference between the 60he+ and 60he is just screw in stabs
@agile grove a wooting member also told me that the price for the module from the badseed video was wrong at $140 and to ignore it
module was out a day later at $140
okay thanks and yeah i do plan on using it for games obviously but sound and feel are key to me
I've heard screw in stabs sound and feel better and are also more consistent.
@agile groveok ok that is also what ive heard
now
the module on its own cant use the gummy O ring mod
so people are removing the screwed in stabs and replaceing it with the other one
the screw ins on the he+ module are gateron ink stabs right
i love any modding community that refers to themself as degens (coming from the car scence lol)
clip ins
yes but theres discounts for all the parts making it cheaper to buy a module with an alumaze and switches compared to the stock wooting (obviously. it also comes with the PC plate which makes the price cheaper aswell.)
Yes in order to do gummy mount with 60he+ is to change the stabs to clip ins
the main screw in stabs that cause this problem is backspace and spcaebar
so is the gummy o ring that much better compared to the burger mount that it is worth replacing the screw ins to the clip ins?
so your choice is to change them into either plate mount or clip ins
you still screw the pcb down even if you gummy o ring correct?
- Personally gummy mount is better than both tray mount and burger mount (preference but it seems true) it balances out the sound throughout the board while somewhat giving gasket performance (not really buts somewhat like burger mount anyways)
- tbh from what i seen clips in pretty good and i think its much quicker to install and all thaat
no
friction mount
so its literally just in there cause the friction from the o ring on the case and board is enough?
when inserting the module with the gummy oring into the case it creatse friction making it snug aand tight into the case
causing it not to fall out
wouldnt that cause the board to move slightly up and down ?
the module stay snugs but the pcb will sit on either the case posts or standoffs
gummy mount boards have pcb that has cutouts for the gummy oring to sit on the post
giving that bouncy feel you see
no problemo
but if you do gummy mount and you're like me who like gasket performance or bounce
just add somewhat squishy foam into the case like polyfill and you will receive a nice bounce and softer typing feel (the bounce is somewhat noticeable when using polyfill from my experience)
are the raptors worth it for non keyboard enthusiast? im assuming the answer is probably no but I wanna get others' feedback.
are you talking about the normal raptor switches?
nah the raptor HE switches
oh i read the question wrong my fault
i wouldnt really know tbh
since it just got released we dont got alot of reviews about it
Okay I just saw a Twitter post about someone using the lekker stems for the raptor switches and it had no stem wobble or noticeable sound I think.
@stable kindle kinda funny how the guy said to grow up even though im still a kid
Now what I want to know is the stem swap still sensitive or the same?
@glacial wind didnt you say the raptor's magnet are more sensitive?
I heard that the raptors were more sensitive than the lekkers
its probably because the stems are made out of the same material while the top housing is the main cause for stem wobble and sound
But someone did a stem swap and I was curious
Roptor HE has improved some wobble compared to Lekker Switch.
but not perfect
Ahh I see
i dont know what really cause stem wobble but im guessing if they increase the size of the rails of the top housing for like a few or 1mm it should eliminate the stem wobble (again this is a guess i dont know how stem wobble works)
That’s what I thought of as well
Cya
As I posted yesterday, please make a MOD that combines the Lekker Switch stem + Roptor HE housing.
#🔧│keyboard_modding message
Now you have the perfect switch
what's wrong with the raptor stems
oop
send what
It’s the lekker stems with the raptor housing
I threw it out the window
A Twitter or YouTube post
yea but what's wrong with the stems that raptor has by default
i really need to finish this essay xd
is it an issue with the magnet?
I would guess so since it’s sensitive
I’m not too concerned abt the stems or anything I just wanted to know if this solved the sensitive problem
doesn't wooting autocalibrate each time you plug it in
Yeah by a tiny bit, so if you swapped and wanted to keep same sens you’d just adjust actuation higher
Ahh
cause iirc i had an issue where i touched the keys as the keyboard was booting up
and that broke the keys i touched
that was the explanation i was given
So do you you have the raptors switches with you or tried them?
Yeah I’m the one who posted a sound test other day
They basically make your wooting not feel or sound like a plasticky gamer keyboard
@glacial wind
okay
Did you try swapping the stems?
that's kinda weird that wooting wouldn't add a calibration feature
Cause I saw one person posted about it
cause it's useful for cases like this
I didn’t bother but if I reopen I might
But for me current config is just holdover. I’ll probably swap raptors to another board end of the year
Ahh
any other places selling raptor switches now?
Well it doesn’t affect things really in the end so not really needed yet
wdym it doesn't affect things
Rapid trigger is still exact same
It’s only your starting actuation point is more sensitive
Everything else is same same
how come
Because that’s just how the pcb is programmed I guess
yea but if the magnet is stronger shouldn't it have a higher value throughout the keytravel?
idk
But basically there’s no downside anyone has found so far beyond making your starting actuation a bit more sensitive
do you own a sayodevice o3c
with that keypad you can look at the magnet strength of each switch
In the end any change in sens is just something you can adjust in software
If it’s too sensitive you just raise actuation or vice versa
So there’s no real downside
it's inconvenient
And if you’re really worried you can just do the stem swap thing and have the wooting magnet in it
yea
I didn’t change a single setting in mine
Performs same as ascendent+ games in valorant with just my 0.1 wasd being more sensitive
but still, i imagine with future keyswitches that might have higher/lower magnet values it's definitely gonna be a problem
especially if the wooting stems aren't compatible
any new places selling the switch btw
or is this still the only site
From what I heard the switches might be in divinity keys soon
But I’m buying these off the site cause I have no patience
Divinikeys will have them soon. They already have an order.
Holy moly the shipping
compared
omg thank u
It seems certain that the magnetic force is strong.
sick
Do you know when they are coming to the website?
Or did they announce it?
that gave me a big smile for some reason
i wonder how the raptor switches compare to the tape mod
They said they don't have an order date yet but that the order is in.
This was from Sno Jed earlier
Ahhh okay good to know I’ll keep a look out then
Since I like the regular wooting case a lot I swear doing a gummy o-ring / tray mount is hard asf
It’s to the point where I’m like nah too much effort back to the burger mount
my exact thoughts back then
waptors and a lemon slice
boobcap
but no module lelele
Why did Veho have to deliver my package 😩
has it stalled somewhere?
They just take very long
10:53pm 🥲
will they even actually deliver it
try not to worry too much, I'm sure it'll turn up
The last one didn't
This one is a replacement for the one that didn't
No alternative address you could have used? I sent shit to work and then told me to stop, and now it kinda sucks coming home with packages sitting at the door. Luckily nothing has been stolen

Like currently on my board is a pc plate with silicone pad no tape mod no bandaid mod
The last one was misdelivered by USPS 
I plan on doing a bandaid mod, tempest mod, maybe the switch mod, maybe holee mod, and I might try something different other than painters tape
Also are those nami's melons on a keycap??? 
lol, yeah that was the theme
can you do the Aegyo to the driver when you receive your package, that'd be kinda cool

I think you're expecting too much from an introvert who doesn't even meet the driver 
i would do it


:D
dude when the day comes you should try soldering a keyboard, that shit is zen
fumes even
Are there any mods for the Two HE I should be aware of?
nothing in terms of case swap but this gentleman is working on a nice case #🔧│keyboard_modding message

Looks like the perfect amount of jank too
I love it lol
I know prototypes aren't perfect, I just love seeing stuff at all stages
for sure and I hope it works out, there must be quite a few 2HE owners out there feeling a bit left out
yeah uh highly doubt Veho is going to deliver my package lol
well that's already a bad first experience
damn raptors are sold out

It says Its not compatible with cherry mx ??
there are two versions, mx and he
The wooting 60he doesn't have pre-lube right?
pre-lubed
you're thinking of something else
mx style keycaps work on he switches
so you could rip off keycaps from a board and use em on your wooting if u want
but wooting only works with he switches, it has no pins for mx
Raptor HE is back in stock
A fellow bogan lover
42-52g effective range i think ive said this like 4 days ago but i need just one store to ship really short lekker size springs
im feeling 12mm
I wanted a spring like that too, so I asked a factory in my country to make it to order, but I was told it would cost about $4 each, so I stopped making it.
My first one ever too! His next drop is a new sculp which looks pretty crazy. Someday I'll get me a goonblank.. someday
anyone know is L45 better than L60 for fps game?
all depends how heavy fingered you are
hmm My L45 just arrived hh. tbh idk about
as long as you're comfortable with the spring weight then it doesn't matter if it's L45 or L60, no performance advantage
it's a matter of preference
If you are nervous and tend to strain your fingers and make malfunctions, you have the option of using the L60.
In addition, you can reduce finger fatigue by changing only the WASD keys that you use for long periods of time to L45.
I recommend trying various things.
thanks bro
thanks for advice. will try!
👍
btw, if i only plan to swap like 4 switches (WASD), is the methond 2 fine? or it may casue damage or something
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Cause DiviniKeys bought them lol
You can slightly damage the switches
The clips holding onto the plate on the top of the switches dont really move
So method 2 is ok?
I still use it but it scrapes the top clips a little bit
You can do it yeah but just keep that in mind.
okk!@
First time ever lubing... took a bit of time but for no mousepad under it I think it came out pretty good?:)
best HE switch for now
The raptor bandwagoning is so, so over the top 😄
it's keyboard modding, what do you expect. more mods = more good
they are releasing a new colour so that the rgb wont get affected they said around march
Is the ks-20 any good ?
Hello @bronze grove I was wondering if you had any extra photos of your white Alumaze60 case?
How different is the concrete gray compared to white?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKa1hIXnQQ
This guy places the L60 stems into the Raptor housing without adding any hand lubing. He mentioned he prefers it this way. Also he added that although on paper the actuation end force is lighter it feels a little heavier than the L60.
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I don't have any white cases?
Oh I thought you had the concrete gray Alumaze60 no?
The mixed actually sounds nice
Apologies, I meant to call it out as concrete gray
I like how it sounds stock and less wobble is nice
Mixed has a more thock sound to it.
less chatter too
wish i could understand what he was saying
I agree. My wooting is coming next week. I’ll use it stock for a bit and see whether I want to do any mods or replace anything
What I typed under the video URL was pretty much all he said
i only see i assume japanese in the comments
He also mentioned he strongly believes majority of people will prefer the raptors over the lekker switches
nvm found one thats english
If if wasn’t so expensive with shipping I would’ve ordered them right away
First things first. I gotta see how it feels stock
Who knows. I might just love the way it feels and sounds out of the box and keep it that way
meh im in no rush i got a module pre-order and imma wait on others to spend their money first on trying these :p
yeah exactly
My friend was the one who convinced me to order the 60he. I was on the fence of getting either the Drunkdeer or apex pro
He said it is amazing stock and won’t be modding it
good friend he is..
Just checking back in, did you by any chance have any other photos for reference of the concrete gray alumaze60 case? Otherwise it’s no worries 😁
#1153678744985280583 message of it all together.
so good
Supposedly my Salvation gets here tomorrow but I don’t believe them
Huge thanks!
So I think I figured out how they wired the Wooting Two HE. This is an essentially similar cable I found on Ali Express. The difference would be the gray wire would correspond to shield cable on a standard USB 4 conductor + shield cable. They ground the conductor directly to the USB-C shroud. This makes sense as the USB-C male outer shroud it mates with is grounded in the standard cables.
Anyway, I suspect the Wooting cable splits (Y split) this outer ground at the board/plate side into the 2nd ground for the JST connector and the plate ground cable.
what keycaps will work on the 60he? im like new to all this
Why is this relevant? In the case you need a replacement please ask Wooting so they can send you one.
If you want to create your own one for customization your should know how the USB Type-C connector should be wired. I forgot the exact wiring. I made a few posts a while back on how such a cable needs to be designed.
Because you need to wire the detection pins (CC pins) correctly otherwise the host would not provide power to the device. This is relevant when you use a USB Type-C to C cable.
any
if using cherry profile just flip the switch around
i can order any keycaps and it will fit?
oh ok ty
not necessary
Out of curiosity what makes you say the bandwagoning is over the top? From what I've seen people are just excited to see another vendor of HE switches. That's a big part of what draws people to custom keebs in the first place IMO is fine tuning a keyboard to exactly how you want it to be 😁
People are touting the Raptor switch to be the next coming of Jesus, the uber switch to save all HE switches ever.
I assume that this will be the same for almost every HE switch release
Haha well that's a bummer. I think anyone who thinks it's going to be a night and day difference will be let down. But I am excited to see a manufacturer other than gateron in the world. More custom switches means more options for those looking to fine tune how they like things!
The KS20 from Gateron did receive some initial hype. But nothing like these raptors.
The hype will have you believe it completely solves stem grind, sounds like a dream and it makes you pancakes on saturdays.
Hopefully once the switches are more thoroughly tested with reviewers, it'll be more clear exactly what to expect.
honestly it is a night and day difference from lekkers as far as stem wobble goes
im tempted to order them
i think the hype is because the wobbly feel of lekkers was pretty much the one real downside left for using a wooting. The switches just feel bad compared to almost any of the popular custom keyboard switches
raptor he is the first option to exist that actually instantly fixes that and brings wooting up to the level of an entry level custom
I do agree time will tell how people like them. Atleast from my perspective I think the ks20 was hyped just to have another HE switch in the game. For me the excitement is to have another manufacturer in the game. They might be great they might not. But getting more switches and more options to customize is only a good thing for the scene and for the longevity of HE boards
I have no idea why people hype the ks20, it's not a real improvement over lekkers
keyboard modders have a habit of overhyping small sound changes and such. For example hand lube vs factory lube lekkers - some people have said before that it's a big jump in sound, but reality is average person probably barely is able to tell
raptor he is very different though in that i'd be extremely surprised to find people who can't instantly notice the rattle is gone
Ya I hope I notice a large difference when mine arrive. I would say my biggest issue with the wooting was the switches from the start. Nothing against gateron specifically but I've never found them to make any of my favorite switches. So the option to try something new is exciting. And I've had luck with bsun switches in the past and heard good things
well, becuase wooting switch is inferior compare to Raptor
l60 l45 and KS20
Gateron trait

Thank you Anders
Your words are convincing me to make an order lol
Well we texted back and forth about the ground wires and you said they could be ignored. I was a bit uncomfortable with that being a bit of a perfectionist and wanting to duplicate Wooting's design.
Hey guys, what are the best thocky key caps I should buy? Im getting the wooting module and would like peoples opinions
Cerakey
most thock
yeah cerakey for sure, but make sure you're not using L45 with those
Couple of people have cerakey on wootings
So you say. I for one trust more in proper testing regimen than blind bangwagon hype 😄
Ye need l60 / l65 / the large springs
need that stronger spring to stand the cerakeys weight
Tiny spoiler: We have a solution coming that will please cerakey owners.
Raptors have already been reviewed a ton in KR community honestly. There's maybe 15+ reviews on various korean places
all basically same thing, stem wobble greatly reduced
i never really see geon stuff outside of kr and us
Nylon top helps A LOT with the sound
The switches aren't GEON
geon sells*
he doesn't disclose manu for the switches
ahhh nooo :( i wanted the L45 switches since i play alot of CS2/Valorant and i heard the cerakeys are very thocky, thats a shame they dont mix well
It's not a huge secret. But I'm not one to spoil that.
idk im not he keyboard owner hehe..i am here to steal memes
Nono
Springs are fine
Spacebar is the problem
ahhh i see
actual GigaChad move. I respect it
It weighs 19.5g which makes space actuation like 15g i cant math
hooray now you can buy cerakey
Separate heavier spring sales👀
still waiting on long/multistage springs for HE switches
Heavier long multistage springs would be amazing. I've always loved tactical switches and obv with HE switches that's not an option haha
I also would love a very heavy spring specifically for my spacebar. That's how I have it on all my custom boards
Cant wait
if i cant get CeraKeys, what is the next best thocky keycaps?
Aluminium keycaps
Which are 3x more expensive that cerakey and have pingy noise
So probably osume or nicepbt, they are 1.7mm thick pbt
i do still recommend cerakey though, heres a video (not mine)
is it safe to use moleskin tape for the tape mod instead of painters tape?
I swap beteen this config and my CF build whenever I want a change in sound
to be safe, I'd say you can put a layer of painter's tape on the PCB first, then you apply the moleskin
alr and you think 1 layer of painter and 2 of moleskin would fit?
yeah, that should fit just fine, really just depends whether you have case foam or not
would you recommend 1 layer of painters and 3 of moleskin without case foam vs 1 layer of painters 2 moleskin and the case foam?
I'd go with the option of no foam, and start from there
alr. thank you very much saw a video of moleskin mod and it made so much difference
XMI is thickest PBT dyesub set i have encounter
really good set for $24
customization is no.1 in the market
can u buy it on amazon? if so is there a link?
oh alr. thank you tho
so far, with Raptor HE you tested
- Frog mini / CF plate / no Foam / ABS PBTfans
- Frog mini / POM plate / no Foam / XMI
right?
yup, and doubleshot ABS Evil Dolch clones, but that's mostly an aesthetic config lol
Also:
PSD60 Gasket / Alu Plate/ xyz foam config/ xyz caps
I used that file for the POM plate
the file for my CF plate is the leafspring without any other relief cuts anywhere else
could you send CF plate file in my DM?
i will see if there is any update for n680, or i will buy frog mini and slap wooting pcb into it 
I'm just waiting on a JST capable HE pcb so I can use it in the upcoming F2-60
daughterboard capable 60HE would be insane for custom builds
there's a new Proto out, so hopes are high for 2024
should i get the wooting wrist rest?
completely depends
i personaly dont use one
but if you think the typing angle might not be perfect for you then you can try it
I would normally use a wrist rest, but the front height is so low on the Frog that I can play without it it just fine. Been using it on other boards though
hmmm okay ill hold off buying it for now, i can always get it afterwards
I'd recommend it for higher profile builds
yep
im getting the tofu60 redux, should i get the wrist rest there?
i have the redux and it doesnt feel uncomforable without a rest
2023 - year of FRL
2024 - year of Hall Effect

but i dont do that much typing aside from when im playing games if you type a lot you might like to have one
i might get one for general use but wont use it when im playing games
True, it’s really hitting almost every maker now. Although I do find some of the reviews on YouTube very clickbaity
mechkey is already salty about it
I saw one review of the Akko which has major software issues with rapid trigger still and the title is “this board will change gaming” lol
always is
Keyboard reviewers are some of the worst at reviewing gaming features, entire review just took akkos word that rapid trigger stuff worked without testing and realising it’s still broken
I guess you could say that "HE" is............a magnet for clicks 
The Akko board was very disappointing, but not too surprising as I th ought it would be the case due to Akko's software being a weakpoint of their products
Back on the topic of keycaps, I really like the sound of the alphas on PBT, but the spacebar just doesn't hit the same spot as ABS
Rakka is also interesting, they cliam real 0.1mm
gb closed tho
i keep monitoring chinese community for news about it
honestly HE boards are one hell of a beast to take up for board designers
as you gotta get both hardware AND software right to a high standard for it to be a good implementation
Great job on Wooting for the work on RT and Tachyon
i'm honestly impressed a bit by geon's work at gathering feedback and such. I didn't even realized until yesterday that he messaged me a couple times asking for feedback when he saw I was interested in the raptors
That's actually how I got the Raptors lol
he dm'd me out of the blue and asked me about my build experience regarding HE boards
especially cuz of the DIY BS I pulled with the PSD60 gasket (picture a lunatic w/ a brand new 60HE PCB on top of a plate and a drill on the other hand, about to drill in standoff holes onto the plate), and the Frog build didn't hurt my chances either
QMK/VIA with HE intregation possible?
yes and no
there was a screenshot of one implementation for ec board in keebs talk channel by pronin other day
for basic functions that are already there, it can work
but the analog features have no support through QMK/VIA
I almost went for a straight red, but I figured it's early so I would be forgiving.
Does the burger mount affect the sound profile of a keyboard or is it mostly for feel? And should i do it if i want a Thocky sound?
think I read that burger mount isolates the noise from switches from the case, so yeah I think it gets thockier.
its mostly for sound, it doesnt really affect the feel
can someone recommend a nice budget case for the wooting 60 he?
Anybody know what size o ring I need to gasket mount my alumaze build?
I ordered the Graveshift medium on Nix's rec but I don't know the dimensions.
Alright sweet - I’ll check it out now
What’s your budget
Any idea if the #A changes anything besides the color?
Not a clue, bud.
All good figured I’d see
I just took the advice and ran with it.
Dunno where you are, but for me it was less that $10 with shipping in the US.
Yeah that’s where I’m at too - just did some research and the A number is a hardness scale. The higher the #A the harder the ring is
This is a problem with reviewers in general, for anything, movie, restaurants, you could even extend it to politicians, bosses, whatever. People get too ingrained in the lifestyle of deciding what's best for other people they lose touch with reality.
Most reviewers are not pro level gamers, or even good
👀
The A determines the hardness level of the O Ring
Yeah that’s where I checked after I asked - got the 40A since I saw that’s what was recommended
Gotcha, yeah that’s what I use.
if I end up getting a module I'll sacrifice my OG pcb for a daughterboard trial
also i am watching the stream and saw something about a 2HE alu case?
can someone point me towards this?
The o rings that come with the module are for burger mounting it right?
I don't know what you mean.
Ground wires should never be ignored and I never wrote that! I wrote that I'm not sure about how to properly handle the shielding ground and if that should be connected to common ground of the device side. This is by no way to be taken as ignoring it.
There is a huge difference between leaving something unconnected on purpose and don't care about it and so ignoring it.
I also changed my point and wrote that I now believe it should be connected.
When you buy such an assembled connector make sure that the CC pins are wired up correctly with the correct resistance. I don't even remember if these should be connected to ground or Vcc.
If I don't forget it, I will check if the shield is connected on the cable to ground or on the board for the Wootings.
My brother thinks im stupid for spending 300 dabloons on a custom wooting
he simply doesnt understand the beauty of the wooting.
Tell him someone else spent a $1000 and see what he says
someone else spent WHAT
that and it's a cheap hobby compared to others lol. Race cars get expensive real quick. Then you have floating, flying things, etc..
heated keyboard
Yeah try being into building space ships
anyone had a bad ks-20 switch?
got a friend who has a board that has ks-20 not working
some work some dont its friggin weird
but other switches work fine
I think his ks-20s are bad
Are the Raptor HE’s good enough stock as is or do they need to be lubed/filmed?
They’re fine stock. If you are super picky then you can hand lube to fix maybe 1 in 5 that might have slightly uneven lube on the rails, but they’re honestly ‘good enough’ stock
bad batch prob
raptor + lekekr stem is best
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least wobble that way
shout out to the Japanese community for being so awesome
its keyboard ppl they dont give a damn about better functionality tbh
you have to buy it it shouldnt be expensive atm
a board that has ks20 not working?
wooting or other he
could be bad sensor
Dope I should be getting them today. I was going to hand lube my L45’s but jumped on the Raptor hype instead lol.
I’m honestly contemplating if I should play around with the stem swap thing
But I already hand lubed 90 of them, opening them up again right away might be too annoying even for me
whats the actuation force on the raptors?
Yeah
yeah the switches are not working
52g bottom out iirc
I’ll probably just wait for the new Raptors coming out in March
Although I do realllyyyyy like the red and black of these ones (fave colors)
Maybe I snag both idk yet
Think I’d love to do like my black salvation case with the raptors and a carbon fiber plate
For the RGB ones
I’ll probably just get these red and black ones since that’s my fave colors
so sat it is march
And March isn’t too far when you’re already waiting for the module in February
true
Be here before you know it
whats so good bout raptors
Nothing
They’re terrible
Don’t buy them
Overhyped
Got some ptfe tape at work
I’ll do plumbers mod when I get home and test it out
What?

Why do I do this to myself lol
RGB Friendly version
Oh I don’t care about rgb
Me either really
Same material just different color?
I just run white RGB anyway
Idk if they’ll do any revisions besides color
I kinda hope they do lol
Just to give more of a reason to buy
So I can buy my fourth set of switches for the 60HE
Haha exactly
Like I said tho , I’ll most likely buy these red and black ones once DiviniKeys has them up
Yeah I ordered them. We shall see
Yuhhh December Wooting Logo!
hats up
oo
i should find mine
should wear it for my pfp
dfjsakl;djafskl;fdsjalk;fdsajkl;fdsajdfs
gonna wash my mouse pad meanwhile
yuhh
nice
i cant find it :(
Decided to go back from gummy mount to burger mount, I think burger produces a more muted sound so I prefer that lol
Raptors just came in and the hype is definitely warranted. These make my Wooting sound closer to some of my custom keyboards. Now just gotta test how they feel in Val.
did they reduce the stem wobble?
Are they better for n terms of performance
Definitely less wobble and as some people have mentioned here, basically no chatter. Coming from the L45 it’s a noticeable improvement in sound/feel.
Will test performance later tonight
my tofu redux just arrived! now I just gotta wait for the module...
That's the main reason I want to get this
Ight
Also shipping was quicker than expected. Ordered Tuesday and arrived today.
The starting actuation is 0.1mm shorter
So the keys are more sensitive
True
did u order from GEON.works?
that is the only place I've seen them being sold
yea I heard that, but sadly not sure when it will arrive
Yeah ordered directly from GEON. Though Divinikey is looking into stocking the Raptor HE as well. They already stock some other GEON switches.
I'm very tempted to just purchase them from Geon so i don't have to wait xD
On the delivery time, are u in NA or is it somewhere else?
I’m in NA/East Coast.
Yeah DHL is goated
Yeah 61 keys on the Wooting
any change on the rgb?
I turned off RGB so not sure but I imagine with the red tint there would be a change
ah ic ic
for turkey no 😦
Not sure
How much was your shipping?
I’m mid west and shipping was $57
For me it was about $24
That’s wild
Wonder why it’s double for me
Both being in the U.S.
I would’ve bought it with $24 shipping but $57 is more than the item itself
I’m also Midwest and it’s $24 for me. That’s really odd why it’s so much for you
Yeah doesn’t make sense, I’m in Colorado
They acting like they have to ship to Mars
I’ve never seen shipping that high on anything I’ve purchased
No matter the country
I went ahead and sent an email though cause I’m curious to know why my shipping is more than double your guy’s
why these shipping like just akko they are really good at it it is so low price
57 is deadass
Yeah something isn’t right there. Maybe reach out to their support or Discord?
Yeah doesn’t seem right
Feels like a scam
I asked in their discord and got told it’s 6:48am on a Saturday there so
Aka fuck off and come back at a later time
I wake up at 4-5am everyday but whatever
I dunno who posted about Divinikey carrying the Raptors but does anyone know what that timeline looks like?
Shipping 20 dollars to uk which is a bit long
Sno Jed posted it and DiviniKeys themselves said they didn’t know
Might just do it
They said they have the order placed already but no shipping date @stray otter
Gotcha
I'm not in any rush but I'm down to try as long as you don't get butt fucked on shipping.
Yeah just don’t live in Colorado I guess and you’ll be fine
I don't really care enough to try the 45s but a new housing is interesting
For everyone except me it seems like shipping is $20-25
House
I love going on holiday in the other dimension
Fellow dimension hopper
alrightt looks like my wooting uwu will just never deliver to me huh
is the foam worth buying
Wooting foam is already good enough so you don't really need more foam
how many days is shipping if im in the us
unless ur like buying the module then yeah buy the foam
dog ate my wooting foam
Help the screw in the space bar is going in but won’t tighten
Doesn’t need to be super tight
It won’t screw in
Have you tried loosening other screws and then trying to screw it
Is that the redux?
Yes
Did you install the gold standoff?
Yes
Hmm idk then
Ima redo it all
Take it out and try again is my guess
Alr
Does anyone know where i can order a set of good quality keycaps? I want to be able to customise the colour for each individual keycap, not just pick an existing design
Push it Down while trying tightining
?
I just added the gold thing do you think that was the problem
yes...
What is there to screw if there's nothing to screw
PFP SO CUTE xdd
yeah, that must have been the problem, altough some people just leave that one out and dont screw it in the middle. cause you get a bit of a different sound profile that way
Anyone know how much polyfill you gotta use for a keyboard?
u kind of just eyeball it
Ye that fine
Okok Ty
Wdym?
oh
basically polyfill generates heat and can conduct electricity i think so without anything in between = fire
ye
i have a sheet of paper underneath polyfill in my polyfilled boards
o ok
especially since its a reduz case too which is made of alu
if you experience overheating just take some poly out
metal case acts as heatshrink
Yeh that’s what I meant by the gold stand off
Also there’s a screw hole in the middle
Idk if I’m suppose to have a screw there
That's only if you want to screw in the middle standoff
the wooting by default does not screw in the middle standoff
but u can if u want
Ah I see
I am garbage when it comes to screwing in screws so I just use gummy o ring mount lmao
Kdbfan also doesn’t
i just swapped back to burger xD
o mine comes in a week
i think gummy was a little too pingy for me for the sound profile, somehow burger was a bit more muted
Everytime I take it out too its like going on battle xD
Wait how do y’all tell if your keyboard overheats?

