🔧│keyboard_modding

[tall hollow]

It was about average volume levels

[placid blaze]

it's okay, when they release the wooting ortho40HE they'll release silent lekker's too

👀

[tall hollow]

Lekker V2 will hopefully be a little quieter.

Although silent lekkers as an option would be nice.

True lol

But it’s Gateron, they have the tooling

True, and the switch is already pretty expensive with that neodymium magnet in it.

Mhm

[hot kayak]

If only it could sound and feel like oil kings this keyboard would be cracked

[stray tiger]

If only keyboards that allowed you to use oil kings could perform like this keyboard, they would be cracked

[hot kayak]

True

[mental hemlock]

why do people put o rings between the key cap and stem

like in the inside

what purpose does that do

[tranquil barn]

Make the downstroke quieter

[mental hemlock]

@solid stump might need to try that one

[tiny cape]

I tried that, it did make it quieter, but the keys felt mushy and rapid trigger doesn't work well with the rings. Makes sense when you think about it, when you hit the key the ring squeezes and returns to its normal shape and rapid trigger thinks you released the key. Maybe adjusting the sensitivity helps

[mental hemlock]

Try that

[tiny cape]

I didn't like the mushiness and took the rings off, but I guess I could try with few keys at some point

[velvet walrus]

Hey guys, totally new to a this, have the keyboard comming in end of the month, was wondering what mods can i do and if are some necessary mods I should perform also should I buy the lube from the site or there alternative lubs i can buy from the UK and should i buy the switch tool kit or other one from the UK do the tools kits have to spefic ones aka match the lekker switch?

[normal schooner]

I think lubing gives you the most notible improvement

if you get the lube kit from the site you can just follow our tutorial, which makes it for a beginner easier

[velvet walrus]

@normal schooner what about the case could get 3rd party case?

[velvet walrus]

I've read in the reviews the lube leaks sometimes when delivered have they solved this issue or made improvements if you know.

[bronze grove]

The lube pots have been slightly redesigned and have tighter vacuum packaging to reduce risk of leaks 🙂

[velvet walrus]

Ooh that's great I would need add this to my existing order just waiting email reply, are you guys making new case design by any chance or have any in development, not digging the yellow color, do you have video of the case by any chance.

[bronze grove]

I don't quite follow. lube? case design? yellow?

[velvet walrus]

What don't you understand?

[bronze grove]

I don't understand what we're talking about 😄

[velvet walrus]

🤣 if I could use 3rd party keyboard case, not digging the yellow keboard case persoanlly and weather you had other cases in development mayby i could holdout buying 3rd party case, the lube was highly recommended new to modding! What's everybody go to case mould? Or you guys bringing new case mould out?

[bronze grove]

Oh the TRAVEL case.

See context helps 😛

We don't have any plans for different colour options for the travel case for the 60HE. It's Black and Yellow to fit the colours of the keyboard and accessories 🙂

[normal schooner]

is the wooting travel case a bit wider

so it also fits third party cases

?

[bronze grove]

Not unless they're the same dimensions.

[velvet walrus]

@bronze grove what do you call the case where you put the pcb and switches into just get our terminology wright?

[bronze grove]

Sigh... this is why I've asked for clarification several times now.

Are we talking about the travel case, which I posted just above. Which you carry your 60HE in? Or the case that the 60HE can have swapped to other ones as seen in the video below?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsRcYxZgBCo

[thick mural]

my fjell turns up next week

as well as my WS films have shipped

[deep breach]

Seems like there's a bit of a language barrier going on

[bronze grove]

Mhmm 😄

[deep breach]

If I'm understanding right, that'd be the keyboard shell

[velvet walrus]

Keyboard shell the terminology thay was missing.

[bronze grove]

Case.

[thick mural]

you mean keyboard case?

[velvet walrus]

Jeeze I though I was asking fairly simply basic question 🤣

[bronze grove]

I mean you were - But you didn't include enough information to clue in what you were referring to exactly. 😄

[deep breach]

Shell makes it easier for others to understand lol

[velvet walrus]

Yeah

[thick mural]

i mean it is also a shell kind of

[bronze grove]

You can call the travel case a shell as well... so not particularly helpful 😄

[thick mural]

so both work

[bronze grove]

Alright anyway - We're talking about the case/shell that the PCB slots into.

The only thing we've shown off so far is a prototype, not final colours. So I can't really comment on whether we're doing anything "not yellow".

[velvet walrus]

🤣

[thick mural]

but most people would claim a shell covers the whole thing

[grizzled path]

turtles disagree

[thick mural]

[velvet walrus]

What material would that be?

[bronze grove]

And the keyboard case only covers the bottom. The switches kind of take up the whole top 😄

[bronze grove]

The alu case is alu. See pins here.

[zinc scroll]

Any thoughts on filming the Lekker switch? Is it worth it if anyone has done it? 🤔

[bronze grove]

#🪛│modding_faq

[zinc scroll]

My bad!

[bronze grove]

Don't be - Just added in the past 24 hours 😄

And it's still WIP

[zinc scroll]

Thought I hadn’t seen it before, now I know :P.

[celest depot]

any idea will 50g string be coming back? i hope i can put it onto my current order

[thick mural]

i think they restock every week or 2

[bronze grove]

Not quite.

We've got a small restock coming in for EU, which is out. After that it'll be a longer while.

But they're coming.

[thick mural]

i was in the same boat and they reappeared after a week so i must've gotten lucky

[wild saddle]

I'm considering my options for a compatible case in EU, I've found the Tofu60 in stock but in white for 130€ including shipping and the Poseidon PSD60 for 73€, not sure what I want to go for, any suggestions? I'm new to customizing keyboards so I need to figure out all the other stuff like keycaps and other common mods done to make it feel/sound better.

[stray tiger]

They will perform / sound similar so get whichever looks better to you or is less expensive

[wild saddle]

decisions decisions... 😄

What other mods you've done to it?

[stray tiger]

Wootings official aluminum case is coming this summer also so keep that in mind if you don't need something today.

[bronze grove]

We technically haven't even announced it, only heavily teased it. So no. No final details - yet. 🙂

[stray tiger]

No official announcement yet but there may be some info out there.

[wild saddle]

Might wait and see, will be a while until I have the keyboard in my hands anyway so lets see 😄

[unkempt root]

baka60 vs poseidon PSD60 for the wooting 60he which is better?

[runic raven]

Hello you guys😘I have two questions.
-Is wooting 60he already lubed or do I need to lube it for more convenient sound?
-also does changing the keycaps affect the quality of the wooting or is it only for style?

[bronze grove]

• Yes and depends. Factory lubing does not match hand lubing.
• Mostly style, ABS and PBT feel different, PBT generally lasts longer before getting shiny surface.

[runic raven]

So I don't need to worry about lubing it anytime soon.
And for the keycaps PBT are usually a better option right.

[bronze grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

And yes - PBT i generally considered better.

[runic raven]

Wonderful. Thanks for answering me. 😘

[tall hollow]

Let’s hope mass production doesn’t delay or cause a cancellation.

[simple vessel]

where did you buy your psd60 bro?

[ionic bay]

Cannot wait for my plate stand-offs to arrive to move to my newer plate

[bright spruce]

Well most keyboard enthusiasts prefer good abs keycaps

I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just preference

There's a reason why gmk keycaps which are abs are the most expensive

[ionic bay]

BRUH

[stray tiger]

The reason is production costs (more expensive labor, tooling and material costs) that are incurred when buying a product from Germany as opposed to Asia. There is also the fact that GMK is the gold standard in keycaps, they are the louis vuitton of keycaps and you pay for the name recognition. That being said GMK does make a very high quality keycap, one of the best. Are they worth the premium though? That's a personal choice. There are inherent advantages and disadvantages of both and youc an read a bit more about those here - https://next.wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps

[unkempt root]

baka60 vs poseidon PSD60 for the wooting 60he which is better?

[stray tiger]

Define better

The PSD60 weighs 2x as much as the Baka60 so it has more metal if that helps

[tall hollow]

Nice

[pale aspen]

also

for gaming

no abs period

get pbt dyesub

i mean

you know that PBT Doubleshot is not 100% pbt right?

it shines faster than dyesub

cheap doubleshot set like Keychron

shine fast

because only 40% PBT

[bright spruce]

Yes I said it's personal preference

[stray tiger]

I like the stickiness of my shiny keycaps when gaming

[bright spruce]

I hate that, that's why I like pbt better

The grainy texture is pog

[stray tiger]

Yeah, sounds like you might not like ABS keycaps then.

[pale aspen]

qood one is good

like pbtfan

monokei

[bright spruce]

I really like the keycaps from easypbt

They're pretty high quality

[pale aspen]

my tinfoil hat thoery is people buy gmk, put it in the board,take a photo and remove them

after that use clone pbt set

😂😂

[stray tiger]

Metal for sure!

[stray tiger]

Why would they remove them?

[pale aspen]

put them back in the box and reselling it i mean

abs has more vibrant color

[runic raven]

I send a message but it didn't go. Anyway, I'm watching a detailed videos about the differences between them and I kinda like the PBT so far.

[pale aspen]

main reason people buy into abs

[bright spruce]

Also abs has much clearer lettering

[stray tiger]

Well the legends and sound differences are also big reasons

[stray tiger]

Ahh I see, well I own probably 30 sets of GMK and I've never sold any so maybe I'm the outlier

[pale aspen]

yeah, it is just satire

[stray tiger]

That has more to do with the keycap profile and thickness than the plastic type

[pale aspen]

like people who how to make every key shine evenly

[stray tiger]

You joke but Ive seen people looking to buy "evenly shined" keycaps haha

[bronze grove]

I would love a PBT dyesub beskar set.

But in actual metal alloy? Too impractical 😄

[stray tiger]

I bought those ones from Archetype but they STILL havent shipped. It still shows estimated shipping in April so they are a bit behind 🙂

[pale aspen]

shine is more patina

[bronze grove]

[stray tiger]

There is def a sound difference. I just mean that a thick ABS cap will sound deeper than a thin PBT cap. If they are equal thickness I agree that ABS is a little clackier

[dusky orchid]

A custom straight cable will work with tachyon mode?

[stray tiger]

Yes, check the FAQ for more details - https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[tall hollow]

Hmm, maybe I should buy some (they’re like 230 usd for a whole set but they look and feel nice)

[stray tiger]

I actually can't confirm how they look/feel in person yet. It's just the WASD keys and yeah I think they were like $99 but havent shipped yet.

[tall hollow]

I have a friend that has metal keycaps and they’re soooo nice.

So expensive though

[stray tiger]

Yeah, it's def a luxury purchase

[bronze grove]

I've honestly spent as much in keycaps, cases and other stuff for my 60HE as the board itself cost.

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-plan-on-stopping-anytime-soon-i-wont-be-stopping-i-will-continue-wont-be-stoppping-keep-on-going-gif-17545759

[marsh juniper]

yea price wise
https://metalkeyboards.no/store/c3/base-kits#/
dang...
cheaper than some group buys but still

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-john-krasinski-jim-halpert-no-comment-gif-4812541

[bronze grove]

[stray tiger]

Wonder how they compare to the aluminum ones - https://www.deskhero.ca/products/aluvia-aluminum-keycaps-extras

[slate peak]

Custom case is finished machining, looking for new key caps and I’m going to powder coat it

Also trying to design custom fasteners

[tall hollow]

I mean, if I can splurge the money for a 4th and 5th axis on my CNC mill maybe I can make some metal keycaps.

[tall hollow]

You own a CNC mill!!??

[slate peak]

My college course

[tall hollow]

Ooh! Cool! I own one lol

[leaden cove]

Ronyme Resin Keyboard Case DIY Keyboard Shell for Anne Pro2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Made resin materials, Yellow https://amzn.eu/d/8vnGJUC

Guys

[slate peak]

But actually you can make custom key caps with only a 3 axis machine

[leaden cove]

That case

[tall hollow]

I mostly make car and machinery parts.

[leaden cove]

Is it compatible?

[tall hollow]

But they’re gonna be very boxy lmao.

[slate peak]

no

if you use a ball endmill

[tall hollow]

I don’t have that kind of tooling lol

[slate peak]

they arent to expensive

a 1/8" ball endmill and the correct tool path you can form it

[tall hollow]

Yeah, but I’m not experienced with them, do they need special feeds and speeds at all? And how to you approach CAMing them?

Once I figure that out I’ll consider

[slate peak]

I use fusion 360 and it has the ability to map the tooling to follow the countour up the sides

the more difficult part is the fixturing

[tall hollow]

Oh, I also use fusion for CAM,

[tall hollow]

Putting it on the vice?

Or the chuck?

Because I do have a 4th axis

[slate peak]

the way i have in mind only requires 3 axis

[tall hollow]

I think the best way to approach that is to make the stem extra long and clamp it down. And then cut it short with a bandsaw.

It does require a chuck but it doesn’t have to rotate at all.

Since it will be mounted vertically.

[slate peak]

if you cut out the bottom of the key cap and leave a circle as the stem and tap it an apprpriate size you can use that to thread onto a stem and use that to hold it

then you just use an endmill to create the cross

the threads are recessed so it wont cause interference

[mental hemlock]

Like what?

[slate peak]

https://i.gyazo.com/11ba82438c4a52e7752c4aabf8c5ff48.png

this is very crude nor complete but you can kinda see the idea

i used a flat endmill to rough and leave like .005 to finish with a ball endmill and just follow up the sides bottom to top in small increments

[tall hollow]

Huh, that’s another way to do that.

[slate peak]

That case looks like it would be compatible

[tall hollow]

Things like box tubes, frames, and thicker plates.

[leaden cove]

Really? Thanks bro

[tall hollow]

And pipes.

[slate peak]

its just the way i see doing it with a 3 axis

we have a 4th axis but i just really dont want to deal with that again

[tall hollow]

Yeah, 4th axis are a pain to deal with.

I have used a 5 axis cnc mill, it’s not fun to zero.

[slate peak]

Ive worked on them but it has a probe and tool setter

wasnt to hard

[slate peak]

The 60he has a standard 60% pcb layout

[mental hemlock]

Mogtimum Tech has something to say about that

[tall hollow]

True.

[stray tiger]

Did you ever order your 60HE?

[mental hemlock]

haha ofc not

im waiting for it to be more moddable

just means im broke

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/blades-of-glory-will-ferrell-no-one-knows-what-it-means-provocative-gif-5313360

[shell geode]

More moddable sounds like more ways to throw more money into your build 😆

[mental hemlock]

Yesss

Alu plate

Mostly

Maybe have the plate separate or something

[stray tiger]

You can have Alu plate made today

The CAD files are available

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[mental hemlock]

rather wait for it to come out

[stray tiger]

Directly from Wooting? Dont think that's a thing currently

https://twitter.com/jakesucky/status/1654147804858597376?s=46&t=Vm8MzQassoNOvB647nqA0g

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[hot kayak]

That’s actually so unreal wtf

[robust fog]

I just ordered wooting 60he and I'm looking for custom case for it. All cases from case compatibility are either unavailable or out of stock for me. Are there any good and compatible cases for it which are in stock (and not located in compatibility spreadsheet)? I'm from EU btw

[stray tiger]

Very few if any. Wooting has their own case coming soon though!

[floral vale]

How soon?

[normal schooner]

this summer

[stray tiger]

No exact date announced yet but it's in the works!

[tall hollow]

indeed

wooting gasket edition maybe?

[robust fog]

Ye, I saw it on twitter. Although, I have mixed feelings if it's gonna match custom case quality. Looking for a big surprise tho

I'd also love to get everything asap

sadly this section of keyboards and their mods requires much patience

[tall hollow]

indeed

[storm pivot]

Okay, so I’m pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but is there any way to reduce the rattle of the stems? Would switch lubing help?

Wooting 60HE on the left, Kit Adam on the right for comparison

[tall hollow]

ill give you a rub test rq of my wooting

it makes barely any sound

(Distance was about 1ft away from the keyboard) the mods I did was the switch tape mod, switch pads, lubed switches, and tape mod.

also diff keycaps

[storm pivot]

Switch tape? Did you use the same pads that bad seed used?

[tall hollow]

no, not the switch tripods, just some poron pads

0.15mm thick

[tall hollow]

basically adding some cloth tape to the top housing to dampen the return sound.

Like this

[storm pivot]

Like these guys?

[hot kayak]

Oh my that is genius wtf i never knew you could do this

[tall hollow]

yup

[storm pivot]

I was afraid these would interfere with the accuracy of the magnets

[tall hollow]

people who have done this mod had mixed results

[storm pivot]

That’s scary lol

[tall hollow]

for me my keeb works fine with RT on and actuation set to 0.1mm

tested the analog range with one of the RGB effects and its fine.

[storm pivot]

I’m just really trying to avoid hand lubing all my switches. It’s such a task. But if it gets rid of the rattle, I’ll take the dive

[tall hollow]

it gets rid of a minor amount of rattle

it still has a relatively loud clack though

[storm pivot]

I don’t mind the clack

[tall hollow]

I personally like the clack

just a bit loud

[storm pivot]

I prefer a Pom clack, but until we get more concrete plate options, I’m not bothering

I’m also hoping that the ceramic keycaps I have on the way will pair well with the board (and not be too heavy)

[tall hollow]

they are 60 weight springs

so do keep that in mind

[storm pivot]

I thought the stock ones were 50

[tall hollow]

no, they are 60

[normal schooner]

ceramic keycaps interesting

[storm pivot]

That gives me a little more confidence

[normal schooner]

would be the first that I see

[tall hollow]

40cn-60cn weighting

[storm pivot]

There’s one in the wootstations channel

I was originally planning to use them in a more traditional board, but the 60HE has captured my heart lol

I have two sets on the way. White and blue. The white will probably end up in a Zoom75

[tall hollow]

the race to build the ultimate sleeper keyboard is real

[storm pivot]

Sleeper is cool and all, I just want my sweaty gamer keyboard to be nice to type on too

Bonus points if it blends in at the office

But who am I kidding? I type on a fucking Lego keyboard at the office 😂

[tall hollow]

Looks like a normal keyboard on the outside, dope tech on the inside.

[hot kayak]

Oh wow someone is actually gonna use the ceramic keycaps, i mentioned it yesterday but didn’t think someone was actually gonna do it

[storm pivot]

I’ve had them on order for a long time. This is my latest keyboard obsession, so it’ll be the first test subject

Now if only usps would update the tracking

[stray tiger]

There has been 2 or 3 guys in here who used them with mixed results. The biggest problem if I recall was that they damaged some of the stems on the switches.

[pulsar ridge]

I recall hearing this as well from someone on the discord. They can be too loose or too tight on the stem due to the way the fire them in the kiln.

I ordered some in the kickstarter, but I'm still waiting on them since Pink is one of the last batches to get produced

[stray tiger]

Well good luck, I hope they work great for both of you! I love seeing all the cool stuff people are doing.

[tall hollow]

Yeah, ceramic will definitely scratch up the plastic, as they are friction fit together.

[stray tiger]

I think the other issue was that the spacebar was too heavy for the switch but that might have been with the 50g springs. It's been a while since I saw the messages.

[pulsar ridge]

I know they include a switch with a heavier spring for that reason, but doesn't really do any good when it doesn't work with leker switches

[tall hollow]

I mean, after filling my spacebar with some dense clay, it’s been fine.

[stray tiger]

Same. Might have just been with the 50g spring and it was only the spacebar if I recall correctly

[tall hollow]

Probs

[storm pivot]

Alright, I’m not sure if I can tell any difference with the switch pads

But they don’t seem to be causing any issues so that’s better than the alternative

I also swapped out the original foam for whatever this stuff is called

Sounds better, still got the rattle. Might have to resort to the switch tape mod

Sounds kinda poppy. More like what I expected with the tape mod

[stray tiger]

Looks like a Mr. Clean magic eraser 😆

[tall hollow]

Looks like packing foam

[tall hollow]

Honestly, not the worst idea Ive heard

[marsh juniper]

haven't made much progress on Wooting Two He case but i did learn how to spin it
making it stop spinning took me awhile to figure out though.....
but pretty much internal is done
the PCB Resting points on the side wish i knew how i could make it bigger but i assume would collide with Components

[tall hollow]

Ooh

Nice

[marsh juniper]

pretty easy to make Bottom part just need to settle on design with height/Angle

[tall hollow]

Ye

[storm pivot]

Feels kinda similar, but less dense

[untold wigeon]

can i buy like heavier springs and just swap out the stock ones for each switch or something

[shell geode]

Lekker springs are bigger than MX springs, so you can't just spring swap, as that would void warranty if something were to happen. Wooting only has the lighter 50cN springs at the moment

[slate peak]

I stupidly broke one of my stabilizers on my 60he what stabs would be best, stabs are the one thing i dont have any experience with

[wispy wharf]

i thought stock springs were 60 cN

i thought the 50 cN were sold separate

[celest mauve]

Would anyone know of a different place to get these springs (trying to get 50 or 45g ones but i only need 20 or so)

[shell geode]

Right, I was referring to that if they want to swap springs, Wooting only has the 50cN to swap to

[wispy wharf]

ah i was right

[hot kayak]

i recently bought tx stabs so ill lyk how it goes when it comes

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[untold wigeon]

SOL then lol? It's insane to think that no one actually cares about taking full advantage of the analog and would rather want an UwU lighter springs when yuou can already set the activation to 0.1 or w/e

i mean i try googling heavier springs and it's like apparently they existed very very early on and immediately disappeared

feelsbadman will still be tapping in any racing game than treying to steer

[shell geode]

Do you prefer heavier springs because you type heavy?

[untold wigeon]

i prefer heavy for typing, my custom is 80g, but for wooting i can type just as fast no problem it's just that it's hard to be accurate in analog with how little force is needed to move the keys

[shell geode]

Ah gotcha

[untold wigeon]

imagine that 0.3 vs 0.4 is what you need in like a speed slide in trackmania... ur fked if u try to do analog with wooting no? Lol

[shell geode]

I prefer lighter for me, I type 35g in mine

[tawdry shale]

someone know how to fix the keyboard if it not being detected on the app but on the site it is

[untold wigeon]

I juist want analog control. that's literally it. i want to be more accurate with analog and heavier springs is the obvious solution

[mental hemlock]

I need your help guys, im fighting about the wooting in another serber

what do I tell them

they say its a gimmick and the marketing is shady

[hot kayak]

i mean if you had a wooting yourself it'd be easier to argue cause you can literally feel the difference when you test it in game

[fierce kiln]

has anyone had any success with a custom coiled cable and Tachyon mode?

[junior glen]

I'll like to know this too, my cable from Aliexpress will be arriving soon, I'll let you know

[fierce kiln]

I would appreciate that. I'm looking to pick up a matching one for my keycaps, but don't want to shell out big bucks for it to not run Tachyon.

[junior glen]

Its probably really hard to tell the difference between Tachyon mode on and off without a machine to test

Also I made sure to buy a cable thats within the same length of the original one so there no significant signal degradation

I wonder if wooting can release a software to test tachyon mode. that would be a nice app I would download

[dark saddle]

Tachyon mode is 1000hz polling

The same thing other keebs have been doing for decades :p

Been PC Gaming since '98 and I can't remember a time myself when keyboards didn't advertise 1000hz

[hot kayak]

custom coiled cables are overrated, straight cables are the way to go now

[dark saddle]

I mean those weird little connectors are overrated too

Just use a normal cable

[hot kayak]

idk if you like customizing your setup i feel like this is more intuitive than coiled at least from my experience

[dark saddle]

I mean why have that metal piece in the middle? It's pointless.

[fierce kiln]

lol no need to argue over something subjective. The whole point of custom cables is a subjective thing anyway

[mental hemlock]

I think that’s useful for quick disconnecting

[static tendon]

That’s insane to have such typing speed, truly amazing

[mint flint]

yes

I ordered from a high quality cable maker through Tirade's recommendation

[fierce kiln]

do you know the measurements of your coil & host cable? Also if you wouldn't mind sharing the cable maker you commissioned?

[mint flint]

Yeah I got u

One sec

https://www.voxelmods.com/

[mint flint]

6" coil, 5' host

I tested out tachyon at 100% brightness, no issues but I did bring it down to around 70-75% because I dont actually need it that bright

I'm warning you now tho that these are pricy

I paid $167 for my custom cable

i didnt mind it because its bespoke but just wanted to let you know

turnaround was around 2-3 weeks iirc

[shell geode]

I mean, it's not necessary to bring it up somewhere else and to argue over it, I'd say its a waste of your time and energy to discuss it in a conflictive manner

[mint flint]

@stray tiger can also vouch

[fierce kiln]

I really appreciate it. I have actually heard a lot of good things about voxelmods. Did you reach out to him via discord?

[mint flint]

yessir

I can get u the user? tell him I sent you his way lmao, hes a cool guy

[fierce kiln]

yeah i would appreciate that. Think I'm gonna try to get him to do a custom gmk bento cord

[mint flint]

VoxelMods#6175

[mental hemlock]

I’m well past the point of getting physically emotional through anything I discuss in messaging services, but it was a topic that was brought up and I chimed in with saying that the Wooting keyboard is unmatched and possibly the best keyboard for FPS players.

[mint flint]

light work for him, enjoy bro

tag me when u get it

[fierce kiln]

appreciate that! Will do! Good looking out!

[dark saddle]

It really doesn't do anything for a FPS player over a normal keeb. :p

[hot kayak]

if you like movement in fps games i think it feels way smoother but yea its not gonna be like a complete cheat code

[tall hollow]

Unless you’re a movement enthusiast.

Superglides and whatnot.

Circular strafes

[hot kayak]

Yea, tbh i feel my superglides only being a little mpre consistent but its just me not being able to see the screen hop accurately

But even when i surf in cs it feels so much smoother

[tall hollow]

Things like that are just easier to pull off

[dark saddle]

Dunno I've tried the Analog FPS movement. It's...neat? But honestly sometimes it's hard to even notice.

Could even be detrimental as you're technically slower than a normal KB user as your first press is the start of slow movement while on a keyboard it'd be instant fast

[hot kayak]

I mean it’s definitely not entirely night and day difference noticeable while you’re playing but like i said if you test it out yourself it actually works

And makes micro movements more accurate

[lucid owl]

@stray tiger

Apparantly you are working on a faq

[stray tiger]

Si?

[lucid owl]

I have had noticable interference in this row

with GMK keycaps

Now using different profile(KAT) without issues

might be something you want to include

switches being north facing aswell

[stray tiger]

There are 100's of gmk keycaps, which ones are you have a problem with? Can you send me a video?

[lucid owl]

GMK Greg specifically

Lemme grab the set again

Enter key is especially noticable

[stray tiger]

Do you have a second set of any other GMK to try? I don't have Gregory to test but the other 10 or so I've tried have no issue.

[lucid owl]

I have too much for one person , lemme try a diff one lol

[stray tiger]

Thanks, I'll check back in a bit to see your results. Let me know what other sets you test with and I'll see if I can reproduce the problem. Let me know if you have don't any mods to the switches.

[lucid owl]

Switches have been lubed with 205g0 but thats it

I've also tried an EPBT enter and that seems fine aswell, might just be a problem with this specific Enter/set

Still a thing tho

[stray tiger]

Thanks! Yeah I don't have a set of Gregory to test with but it's definitely possible that (especially with larger keycaps) you may get some interference if the keycap has some warping, or even slightly twisted stems. If you have this problem with other cherry profile sets I'd be concerned.

Here is the FAQ entry as it exists now #🪛│modding_faq message

[lucid owl]

Keycap isn't warped and sounds fine on any other board tho, I just assumed it's because north facing

[stray tiger]

You can always turn that switch around and try it again but it's almost never the issue in most cases.

[lucid owl]

As I am using diff keycaps now it's a non-issue anyway

But thought a headsup that some sets might cause issues still would be appreciated

If I turn the switch around it sounds fine btw

[stray tiger]

Thanks for the update either way, love people willing to help!

[bronze grove]

I'm personally very curious if south facing it would fix it. Because as I understand it, Gateron redesigned the housing to fix the facing issue.

[stray tiger]

Could be a problem with a specific set of keycaps or yeah could just be a bad mold/cap. I don't have that specific colorway to test.

[dark saddle]

It's probably because of the insane stem wobble of the Wooting that almost allows you to touch another keycap

[bronze grove]

My GMK are fine. So are my... uh... I forgot who made this cherry set.

[stray tiger]

Yeah I can hear the difference. Thanks for testing for us and if you discover other sets that give you a problem let me know please. Hopefully another Gregory user can test and let me know if it's just your keycap or if they have problems too.

[lucid owl]

I have alot of GMK sets I could test but maybe another time, that'll be alot of work

[stray tiger]

I have about 25-30 sets but have only tested about 10 through the course of normal tinkering. So far no issues but you never know when there will be that one set or cap. We are talking very small tolerances so anything is possible.

[lucid owl]

Any of these sets you already tried which I might cross compare?

[stray tiger]

A spreadsheet man after my own heart! These are what I have.

[lucid owl]

From that list I only own Awaken(Neo Tokyo set tho) and Striker

I could check those 2 real quick

[stray tiger]

I do know that both of those had no issue

Crazy that out of all of those sets we only have 2 that overlap haha

[lucid owl]

If that generic Olivia PBT set is the same one that came with my Zoom 65 we overlap there aswell 😅

Eyo, My striker Enter is having interference aswell

[stray tiger]

There is like a 99% chance it isnt considering there are 1000's of clones out there haha. This set came in a brown cardboard box with plastic trays if you want to check though haha

[bronze grove]

Awaken worked fine for me.

[stray tiger]

Not sure how much work you want to do but you could also try swapping that switch with a spare and see if that changes anything. Just tested my striker again and Ive got no interference.

Side note, Im digging the frog case 🙂

[lucid owl]

Just swapped the switch with a stock, unlubed one

Same issue

\

[stray tiger]

Well then I'm glad the FAQ says most and not always because you may fall into that small % that has an issue. I wont ask you to do any other testing, I'm just glad you reached out to let me know. I'll do some more testing on my end and update the FAQ

[lucid owl]

No worries happy to help

[lucid owl]

IKR, got it here https://fishworks.bigcartel.com/product/frogboard

Painted ABS sounds amazing btw with this board

[glossy pagoda]

Not the highest res pictures, but little teaser from the livestream 😄

[bronze grove]

Yeah... I'll ask Erik to get some proper preview photos we can share here.

[lucid owl]

Is this a Custom alu case made by Wooting?

Just tuned in the stream and missed this

[bronze grove]

Yes - Consider it the Wooting "tofu" case.

[lucid owl]

That is so interesting, even for "modules" not by Wooting

We need more quality tray mount cases

[pliant sun]

I was driving trying to listen but did they mention price, I just heard something about a possibly discount :,)

[bronze grove]

No pricing yet.
Potential discount for 60HE owners (founders only maybe? Yet to be determined.

[waxen wigeon]

Im having a bit of trouble getting my stabs to sound good can anyone hear whats wrong with these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijb4OxoaycU

[lucid owl]

Definite rattle

Did you add enough lube, and what stabs are you using?

[fierce kiln]

go heavy on your stabs. Make sure go a little over the corner as well

[waxen wigeon]

stock switches they def have enough lube i also holee moded and added padding under the wire

[lucid owl]

if you are using the stock stabs, adding some tape/bandaid on the plate where they clip in is a bnig recommend from me aswsell, makes them clip in tighter

[waxen wigeon]

is it worth to just get better stabs

[fierce kiln]

I would just lube the stabs

first

[waxen wigeon]

they are def lubed enough

[lucid owl]

I got my stabs to sound pretty decent, but getting cherry clip ins or Durock clip ins might work better for you yeah

[waxen wigeon]

this is like round 5 of lube with no change in sound

[fierce kiln]

yeah i got mine to sound pretty good as well. And i have similar build but with bento revival keycaps

[lucid owl]

What lube are you using?

[fierce kiln]

what lube did you use?

[bronze grove]

Not really a thing.

[waxen wigeon]

205 and dielectric

[waxen wigeon]

thats what i figured

[austere creek]

the only stab upgrade is the module we showed of at wootup

it would have screw in stabs

[lucid owl]

Make sure you have clipped the bottom of the stems if that is a thing with these stabs, and bandaid mod aswell

[waxen wigeon]

the only thing i haven't rly tried is adding tape to the clip like some1 was saying above^

[waxen wigeon]

is it possible to make a plate that has screw in stabs custom?

[lucid owl]

pcb needs to support it tho

[austere creek]

no the PCB doesnt support it

the module is basically pcb/platefoam/plate all for screw in stabs

[waxen wigeon]

:/

[lucid owl]

Is this the same module I tried at Clackycon?

[austere creek]

idk if we had it at clackycon

[lucid owl]

It felt pretty good, I think they had it in a Beige Tofu or something

[storm pivot]

Update on the ceramic caps

Spacebar is a little slow to rebound, but not unusable

[somber scroll]

Oh interesting. The translucence on the spacebar is quite different

[lucid owl]

Not sure if I like it but it's a vibe

Sound of ceramic caps are very nice tho

Wonder how they sound on the wooting

[storm pivot]

They sound meh on the Wooting. I’ll upload a sound clip in a few

[lucid owl]

These are my KAT keycaps btw

[storm pivot]

Improves the sound in my opinion, but not to the same degree that I expect it would on a PC plate

[lucid owl]

Yeah The PC module probably will do alot for custom cases

[uncut pelican]

forggy :>

[stray tiger]

Awesome. Yeah slow rebound on the spacebar was reported previously with those and damage to the stems if you're not careful.

[stray tiger]

Love the sound of PC cases. Super underrated I think. I'm working on building out my 60HE into a top mount PC case (until I can get a Path60!)

[storm pivot]

Yeah, I’m a little scared to pull them off. Some of the caps hold on pretty tight

[lucid owl]

I tried my Wooting in a Tofu and in my Salvation, I feel like this ABS case deaden the high pitch a bit more and gives it a fuller sound

Thick plastic is the way to go

[storm pivot]

Not a great angle, filmed on an iPhone.

I also never realized how much I rely on the little home key nubs

The ceramic caps are smooth on F and J

[stray tiger]

Are the F and J key scalloped at all to compensate?

[storm pivot]

Nope

[lucid owl]

Same issue with my KAT caps, no home row navigation, altho I don't rely on them as much

[placid blaze]

I heard the snaps and I was like "DAMN that keyboard sounds nice"

bit of a monkey moment for me there

[lucid owl]

Mic made it a bit higher pitch than irl

[stray tiger]

@lucid owlthanks again for the feedback earlier, I've updated the FAQ to be safe

A: The majority of today’s keycaps do not exhibit interference with the Lekker switches used in the Wooting keyboards. The original issue had less to do with keycap profiles and more to do with older mechanical switch housing designs. These issues have been resolved in almost all modern switch housings including the Lekker switches used by Wooting. However, there have been a few users who reported an issue with random newer GMK sets. If you still want to swap your switches to south-facing, it’s simply a matter of removing the switch, turning it around and reinserting it. That’s it! If you want to learn more, please watch this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAppmiG484k

Just fellow OCD sufferer for me lol

[lucid owl]

Accurate enough 👍

[delicate tartan]

sweet!

[stray tiger]

Pretty soon I'll have to update the FAQ with the new Path60 case and 60HE Module. Exciting stuff!

[somber scroll]

Did they explain why they’re calling it the Path60?
I assume this is the wooting Alu case?

[stray tiger]

yes aluminum case and I do know why they went with that name but not sure I'm allowed to tell you just yet 😆

Oh, look at the second photo closely and maybe you'll figure it out #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[somber scroll]

Ahhh. That’s a neat little Easter egg

[mental hemlock]

Mill Path60

[tall hollow]

Damn, nice.

How much is this thing estimated to cost?

[tall hollow]

or maybe a BOM if price isnt determined yet

[patent viper]

Hello,

I'm want to buy the Wooting 60HE, but they don't have the Swiss key caps. So I have to find some Swiss key caps that match with the Woothing 60HE. I don't want to make some mistakes, so can someone help me find those key caps ?

Thank you in advance !

[sharp frigate]

Oooo boy Swiss caps are not exactly common. You may want to see if there are any keyboard shops in Switzerland that sell online. Keychron does sell Swiss ISO on some keycap sets but appear to be sold out atm

https://www.keychron.com/collections/all-keycaps/products/iso-ansi-q3-q4-q6-k8-oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set-blue?variant=40026346782809

Wait these are in stock

Check out the rest of their caps I’m on my phone but they have a few!

[unkempt root]

does that make it better?

[lucid owl]

Heaver does not equal better

it does mean it feels more premium and the sound may bounce around differently

[stray tiger]

Denser/thicker aluminum cases will sound less hollow and have less resonance than thinner aluminum cases

[lucid owl]

Depends alot on the open space beneath the pcb aswell

Some keyboards have an inside brass weight for this reason, because it is more dense and dissipates sound more

[mental hemlock]

Fjell chads

[stray tiger]

Love the Fjell, probably in my top 3 for the 60HE out of the 12+ cases Ive tried

[tall hollow]

Indeed, it’s a nice tray mount case

[tall hollow]

It doesn’t dissipate it per se, but it absorbs the sound because there’s physically more mass to get moving.

[vivid rampart]

especially in coding
my solution was to put Home/End on Q and E with CAPS as my Fn2 layer (also WASD as arrow keys)

[stray fern]

Mojo60 case was on sale so I grabbed it. Doesn’t work if I keep the oem Wooting foam pads tho.

fits the oem cable color too

[tall hollow]

I just use the VIM keybinds lmao

Not even arrow keys

[stray tiger]

I love that case, so underrated. It's a great angle and heavy as hell

[simple vessel]

I just purchased the psd60 case last night, hope it works well😪

[stray fern]

oh yeah the weight surprised me and the quality of it too

[stray tiger]

I actually had it in yellow also hehe

[stray tiger]

If you can find them (doubtful) and like GMK keycaps, the GMK Merlin set matches that yellow damn near perfectly.

[stray fern]

yeah that set would go perfect cuz I got a viper ultimate mercury (white and grey)

I am on the hunt lol

[tall hollow]

You got 2 wooters?

[stray tiger]

I also think GMK Nautilus matches pretty well

[stray tiger]

2.5...

[tall hollow]

Dang

[stray tiger]

I got tired of tearing apart my first one to try out all of the cases/builds so I bought a second but it had a weird quirk so I had to get a new PCB and then I went ahead and bought some switches so that I have a "test bed" so to speak

[stray fern]

I got into keyboard modding cuz of my wooting. I never thought id be able to justify the prices but here I am now wanting to put more into it so I can make it my own...yippie.

[tall hollow]

Nice

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-dont-dont-do-it-no-nope-gif-4384713

[tall hollow]

I kinda wanna make an HHKB version of the 60HE

[mental hemlock]

blanks are the best

[tall hollow]

Mind as well make it gasket mount too while I’m at it

[mental hemlock]

sorry not sorry

[stray tiger]

I mean you could fairly easily

I ordered my "hopefully" last custom cut plate today. Says it'll be here around May 15th. Also those switch films I told you I would test out are supposed to arrive today @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

Neat

[stray fern]

optimumtech wooting?

[mental hemlock]

if this guy painted his plate black it would be sick

[stray tiger]

Looks like you know what you want/like. Thats the hardest part 🙂

[mental hemlock]

nah it belongs to someone in here

starts with a P

[stray fern]

reminds me of this one

[mental hemlock]

@wraith ice

i like his but im beginning to not be a fan of OT anymore

he seems like someone who knows what hes doing but really isnt

[tall hollow]

Carbon fiber plate?

[mental hemlock]

his ITX builds could be much better

[stray tiger]

Heck no man, way too expensive. Aluminum just like the others I had cut. Although if you missed the stream earlier this morning the Wooting 60HE Module will come with a PC plate and support screw-in stabs

[tall hollow]

Ooooo

Maybe if I bundle that with a Path60 it would be so cool.

[mental hemlock]

should i get that or make a CF or aluminum plate

[tall hollow]

Preference really.

[stray tiger]

Thats the plan, you can buy together or separate and I believe there is a discount to buy together or if you already bought as 60HE from wooting (not confirmed, just mentioned they are looking into it)

[tall hollow]

I see

[mental hemlock]

We'll see the sound tests

and confirm

whaddya think

[tall hollow]

Well tell them that there is interest for it

[stray tiger]

Hah, they know there is. Probably just trying to figure out how to best bundle it. Trust me when I say I already have a long list of questions and FAQ updates ready to go as soon as the official announcement comes.

[mental hemlock]

haha Tirade youre awesome

thank you for your questions

[stray tiger]

Thanks, I just try to provide complete and non-biased information so that people can make the best decisions for themselves with as little risk as possible

[mental hemlock]

That's dope as fuck

[tall hollow]

It’s more about knowing the risks and benefits.

[mental hemlock]

better than anything people on reddit can do

[tall hollow]

Since analog keyboards are quite different from your conventional keyboard.

There are many more variables you have to control in an analog keyboard than a traditional one.

[stray tiger]

Thats true and I also go out of my way (and with my own wallet) to test/try and mod stuff for the board so I can also have first hand experience when possible.

[mental hemlock]

Factual statement once again from Ducky

[tall hollow]

I’m just going by what I was able to do, lol.

[stray tiger]

I literally bought 4-5 different keyboards just to try with the wooting (ones where I couldnt buy case only)

[tall hollow]

Speaking of which, @stray tiger you should bring some emphasis in your FAQ about being very careful with the USB-C port since it’s not reinforced and can easily be ripped out of the pads if you aren’t careful,

Especially when it’s out of the case

[stray tiger]

Oh, I havent heard/experienced that and I'm pretty rough with mine. I dont get out of this channel much but has this been a common thing?

[junior glen]

Anyone here tried a 3.0 powered USB switch with wooting tachyon mode?

[stray tiger]

Yes, using one right now

[junior glen]

any latency?

[tall hollow]

No, it’s just something that I know that surface mount ports tend to do, I’ve had my fair share of breaking surface mount USB-C ports.

[junior glen]

what game do you play

[stray tiger]

None that Ive noticed, I still use the fastest settings. I own 2 and this is the one Im using currently

Oh this one isnt powered. My anker one is powered

[junior glen]

oh no, I'm talking about a USB switch

like a KVM

[tall hollow]

I use a Thunderbolt cable lol. And it’s fine.

[stray tiger]

Ohhh, then no I cant help you there

[tall hollow]

LTT made a good video on type-c cable quality.

And how it affects devices

[stray tiger]

I was using a thunderbolt cable for a while but some of the cases couldnt fit the larger USB-C connector (looking at you Baldr60)

[tall hollow]

Lol

[stray tiger]

Using this guy atm but I switch it up from time to time

Braided cable

[tall hollow]

As long as the KVM can provide 5V at 1 amp it should be fine.

Idk why but I kinda want to make a board repair tutorial on the wooting pcb and put it on iFixit.

Like led replacements

[stray tiger]

Have you had LED's go out?

[tall hollow]

Nah, but it does happen.

And usb port replacements.

[tall hollow]

These boards will last years lol.

[tall hollow]

Also diagnosis

[stray tiger]

OK whew, I was like man I havent heard of these things happening

[tall hollow]

But LEDs will go out as they get used

100,000 hours is when they typically start going out.

[stray tiger]

Yeah, I think the MTBF is like 50k hours. Thats a lot of gaming 🙂

[tall hollow]

Then again, people sometimes don’t set an idle limit because they think it looks cool on their desk, (and yes, fancy RGB can look nice)

Lol

[stray tiger]

Well at 100k hours, 24 hours a day, always on, thats still like 4000 days. So yeah in 10+ years you might need to upgrade lol

[lucid owl]

@stray tiger Have you found switch films that fit the Lekker switches btw, I tried TX and Deskeys but they both don't fit nicely

[tall hollow]

The usb port will probably be the first thing to go. Or the power regulator.

[stray tiger]

I have not found any that fit well BUT someone on reddit swears that these fit great https://cannonkeys.com/products/ws-switch-films?_pos=2&_sid=76fa13208&_ss=r so I ordered some and they should arrive today

[lucid owl]

Curious, lemme know how they fit, switches could use some filming imo

[tall hollow]

What batch are you?

[lucid owl]

EU-tandpasta

[tall hollow]

I see, my keeb had loose housings lmao

Although that was eliminated after I put the films on, so I ain’t complaining anymore.

[stray tiger]

@tall hollow also mentioned in the stream is a slightly updated switch with tighter tolerances. Not really a revision but a tweak in the top housing to get back to the original spec

[lucid owl]

I mean, I have many many mx switches, so I know about tolerances, some switches even if they fit you shouldn't use them, Lekker switches would definitely benefit from them tho, regardless of batch

[simple vessel]

Tirade what cable are using here?

[tall hollow]

Oh good, yeah because some people had loose housings and some had housings that were as tight as a rock.

[stray tiger]

Erik mentioned that somewhere along the line gateron made a slight tweak that ended up creating a little more wobble than was in the original design and that's been resolved

[tall hollow]

Nice

[boreal ingot]

question.

[stray tiger]

I believe that cable is from https://wiredinstore.com/

[boreal ingot]

coiled cable good or bad?

[tall hollow]

Depends

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[boreal ingot]

@stray tiger @tall hollow thanks will look

[lucid owl]

Wooting cable fits this board amazingly btw, Love this cable

[tall hollow]

I will say one thing though, wooting keyboards are more power hungry than your typical keyboard.

[stray tiger]

Oh yeah that combo looks great!

[boreal ingot]

@tall hollow how so if you don’t mind me asking

[stray tiger]

Speaking of great color matching, my GMK Deepwell RAMA matched the red on the QK60 exactly

[lucid owl]

Oeh nice

Talking about colour matching even more, look at this gmk novelty matching Striker perfectly

[stray tiger]

The faster scan rates of the keyboard combined with the per key LED's require a bit more power than the average keyboard

[tall hollow]

This

Also the power it consumes can spike higher than it’s rated power consumption.

[lucid owl]

especially in Tachyon mode iirc

[stray tiger]

Yeah that looks great together! I had a Salvation in blue along with Striker that I got from a friend but never ended up building it.

[tall hollow]

Oh for sure, which is why it causes the keyboard to shut down when it has a current spike.

Also wacky inputs

[lucid owl]

have never had that happen

[stray tiger]

Ive never had my board shut down but I also dont run LED's higher than 25%

[tall hollow]

From brownouts

[lucid owl]

I just yeeted a dz60 build in it for quick assembly tbf

[stray fern]

well i just installed the wooting pcb in a new case and now the M key is messed up. Anyone knows how to troubleshoot that? or fix it?

[stray tiger]

Oh wait, is that the salvation?

[lucid owl]

Yup

[stray tiger]

hahaha

Well then mine would have matched great

[tall hollow]

Any other mods you did?

[stray fern]

none

might be too tightly sandwiched on the foam?

[tall hollow]

Probably

Take that out and see if that fixes it

[stray fern]

im gonna try to loosen up the screw next to the spacebar

[tall hollow]

Try not to flex the pcb too much

[stray tiger]

I had damage on the case when I opened it that happened during shipping @lucid owl

[tall hollow]

Oof, I see the scratches

[stray tiger]

NK refunded the purchase. It was from the zipper in the case rubbing through the paper

[boreal ingot]

for two days i tried film switching

[tall hollow]

Oof, happens

[boreal ingot]

and i ended up giving up

[tall hollow]

I did it, it went ok

The films got deformed, but I didn’t get any issues with the analog range.

[boreal ingot]

i had to use my crappy womier 65 keyboard ):

@tall hollow it was soooo hard

[tall hollow]

Does it have that little bar in the middle?

[boreal ingot]

i’m over here sweating

[stray fern]

thanks ducky, unscrewing the spacebar screw a little fixed it

think it was flexing

[boreal ingot]

yes

[tall hollow]

It most definitely was.

[stray fern]

i was like "just spent 300 rip"

[stray tiger]

I dont even screw in the spacebar screw most of the time

[stray fern]

so much to learn

[tall hollow]

Same, it’s not needed most of the time

[stray fern]

imma keep that in mind

[tall hollow]

Some cases even dropped the 2 center standoffs entirely.

And only use the 2 side ones

[lucid owl]

That is so harsh after such a long wait

Full refund and you got to keep the board?

[tall hollow]

No reason to return it lol

It’s a hassle for both sides

[stray tiger]

You know whats even worse, it happened to me on both of the boards I bought. Gray and blue. No, had to send the boards back, they will sell as B stock they said later

[tall hollow]

Damn

Packaging oversight maybe?

[stray tiger]

Way better for NK to have me send it back. $20 to ship worse case and they can sell B stock and likely get a partial credit from the manufacturer

Yeah, the should have wrapped the case in cloth or put foam between it and the zipper inside. Let me find the picture of the gray and you'll see what I mean

[tall hollow]

I see

[lucid owl]

Wow that is harsh

I bought directly from Salvun, board only has some inner blemishes and he even gave a metal artisan with the board so can't complain

[lucid owl]

NK overseas shipping issue

[tall hollow]

Oof.

[lucid owl]

yeah thats not acceptable

[stray tiger]

That zipper rubs through the paper and scratches the case. Happened on both of the ones I bought

[tall hollow]

Unfortunate.

[lethal temple]

@stray tiger My plate came in, everything works great. I'll attach some pictures

the rigidity is closer to steel than aluminum for reference

I'll probably make a new wootstation post with a sound test later maybe. Still waiting on cerakey keycaps and I'll try those. Don't think I am going to swap cases/plates again, this is good for me

[stray tiger]

Looks great man! I ordered one in aluminum today and should be able to do a comparison with you on this case in a week or two

[lethal temple]

Did you also get a sirius 60 case? pretty nice case, weighs a decent amount despite being made of polycarbonate (thicker bezels and brass weight I assume)

there was also a pom version but people seem to say it's inbetween polycarbonate and aluminum (in terms of sound)

[sharp frigate]

ugh that sucks, i heard it was really common 😦

[stray tiger]

Yeah I've had one for a while with a PC and aluminum plate.

[lucid owl]

My experience with CF plate is very good

Stiff and high pitched but not in a bad way

Also tried custom FR4 for the first time recently

Have to say I'm impressed

[lethal temple]

agree with you, and that's a nemui right? looks nice

[lucid owl]

Yup

PC plate I had was unusable and Alu plate build was decent, but JWK linears(Moyu Queens) on fr4 just sound blessed

Still waiting on GMK Tuzi to throw on this bad boy tho

[stray tiger]

FR4 is probably my favorite plate tbh

Followed by aluminum

[lucid owl]

Yeah prob has to be Alu for me

So much versatility and feel is just nice

[tall hollow]

noice!

I personally like FR4/G10

produces a nice sound and a decent amount of flex

funny thing is is that I also use FR4 sheets as a printing surface on my 3D printers.

[slate peak]

I cannot get some of my switches out of my board help

[tall hollow]

I wish I can make keyboard plates on my waterjet, but theres no way to screw it down/secure it lol.

[tall hollow]

hmm? try wiggling it

[slate peak]

it finally gave, the top housing is bent now

[somber scroll]

Oh interesting that they’re doing a PC plate. Did they just not have flex issues with it or did they have to add more standoffs or something?

[stray tiger]

Can't say yet 🙂

[tall hollow]

I only slightly regret buying my waterjet

[somber scroll]

Bruh. Teasing hard haha

[tall hollow]

seeing as how the pcb is 4 layers, its already super stiff as it is.

[short fiber]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/iso-ansi-jis-keycaps/products/iso-q1-k2-oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set-blue

can I use these on the 60he?

[shell geode]

It's a nice set, but unfortunately it doesn't have all the keycaps that the 60he requires, like the long right shift keycap and others

[sharp frigate]

I use PBTFans on my board love it

[boreal ingot]

me and a friend worked on the board

and the hardest part was aligning the foam and case together

took him 15 mins i gave up away 5 mins

[mental hemlock]

how is that hard'

how thick is the foam

[wraith ice]

I’m curious myself

[mental hemlock]

Mr Plipps

how are you brother

[wraith ice]

Doing well! How about you?

[mental hemlock]

chilling, might start playing BF4

i sent your keyboard to a lot of people, is that okay with you

i just really like it

show off mostly

[wraith ice]

Show it to as many people as you want buddy!

I appreciate it. I think it’s cool someone likes something I put together, lol

[mental hemlock]

haha definitely

well you got excellent taste

[wraith ice]

Thank you 😊

[mental hemlock]

Like to me, the feeling I get when I look at this is that I want to just use it indefinitely

looks so relaxing and pleasant to game and type on.

[wraith ice]

I’ll be completely honest, exact same feeling I got once I got it put together. Still my favorite board to sit down with when I get in front of my computer.

[tall hollow]

I bet!

[mental hemlock]

You're a lucky man

@tall hollow its Mr Plipps keeb lol

[tall hollow]

Ooo

[wraith ice]

Lol

[tall hollow]

Nice build tho

[mental hemlock]

@tall hollow https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070790236419919952/1070839614551642202/IMG_7494.mov

[wraith ice]

Thanks @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

Still got that classic lekker clack.

[mental hemlock]

Do you think he can make it better

wanna see what it sounds like without foam

[wraith ice]

I would be happy to take it apart and ditch the foam. I’ve wanted to for quite some time if I’m being honest.

[mental hemlock]

haha i guess its time

[wraith ice]

I’ll try and do it this weekend and send another video.

I won’t be able to get to it tonight

[mental hemlock]

ah its fine

i just dislike how hard it is to make it sound good

[wraith ice]

The tofu cases aren’t the best for no foam builds imo, but I like no foam better

[tall hollow]

I think you heard my keeb, the sound is debatable on the stock lekker switch

[mental hemlock]

@tall hollow please send it again if you dont mind

[tall hollow]

Sure

[mental hemlock]

i think his sounds a tad too deep

[mental hemlock]

are yours lubed or

[tall hollow]

Lubed, taped, padded, and pcb tape mod.

[mental hemlock]

Damn idk how to feel about it

[tall hollow]

I’m still waiting on my alu case sooo

It’s technically not done yet

[tepid spruce]

What mods did you do?

[mental hemlock]

its @wraith ice

@tall hollow what case are you getting

[tall hollow]

FB60

[mental hemlock]

nice what color

[tall hollow]

Black

I got it because it has even bezels all around.

No areas are thinner and thicker.

[mental hemlock]

I like that you think that wau

i definitely like my sharp angles

[tall hollow]

Also it’s angle is less aggressive.

5 degrees vs the 7 degrees on the fjell or the klippeT

[wraith ice]

Burger mount, tape mod, zip-n-fit foam and lubed the switches.

@tall hollow I like the sound!

[tall hollow]

Thx!

[wraith ice]

And all on board with the lower typing angle as well

[tall hollow]

Yeah, I prefer flatter boards

2 degrees my not sound like a lot, but it is a noticeable difference.

[wraith ice]

It’s noticeable for sure.

There’s one outlier for me though. I bought an Angry Miao Compact Touch…10 degree typing angle and I love it for some reason

[tall hollow]

Stock case is 6 degrees I believe.

[tall hollow]

Oh damn

[mental hemlock]

why is angle so important

[tall hollow]

Because it changes the ergonomics of the keyboard.

[wraith ice]

All personal preference but what ducky said

[mental hemlock]

does it make it more uncomfortable

[tall hollow]

Some people like a flatter typing angle, some people like a steeper typing angle, people choose what’s more comfortable to them.

[tall hollow]

Nahhh, no way, also HHKB layout

[mental hemlock]

that looks crazy lol

[wraith ice]

Don’t ask me why but I love it. Lol

[tall hollow]

Bro my wrists would scream at me

[wraith ice]

That’s what I thought also, but they both seem okay with it. Lol

You gotta send me a picture of your wooting when you get it done @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

Will do!

[tall hollow]

I have an actual HHKB, with the fancy topre switches

[wraith ice]

I don’t have one yet….I’m just about to pull the trigger but I have a few boards that need to come in first.

You happy with it @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

It’s very unique I must say, but you have to be proficient with your non WK keybinds to make it work out for you.

And the dip switches are really convenient.

[wraith ice]

I can’t wait to get one

[mental hemlock]

what do you guys think would be the best places to lube the wooting switch

[tall hollow]

Bottom housing and the stem.

Oh and ofc the spring.

[mental hemlock]

bag lubed or hand lubed springs

[wraith ice]

I just bag lubed the springs and then lubed the stems only.

[tall hollow]

Specifically the rails of the switch and the bottom of the housings.

[mental hemlock]

your call.

[tall hollow]

Up to you, they have the same effect.

[wraith ice]

I tend to be a bit heavy with lube so I don’t do the bottom housing

[tall hollow]

Usually I go moderately with the lube

Only enough to see the shine of it

And I go heavy on the springs

[wraith ice]

I’ve got it down now but when I was doing the wooting I was to heavy handed so I didn’t do the housing to make sure I didn’t make them mushy

[tall hollow]

Mhm

[mental hemlock]

the thing is, are you a fashion demon

[cyan basin]

Lubed up my wooting60he. Looking to get a case maybe this summer

(Ignore my 3 finger typing style lol)

[mental hemlock]

ah yes, the floating pinky style

haha it sounds good bor

bro

[cyan basin]

haha yeah. I mean it works

ty tho :D

[wraith ice]

Sounds good and looks great @cyan basin

[pale aspen]

where? do you have a link?

[stray fern]

Melgeek

[pale aspen]

their offcial site?

[stray fern]

https://www.melgeek.com/products/melgeek-mojo60-aluminum-mechanical-keyboard-case

Yup

They shipped from China through DHL

Was drop in just had to unscrew and screw it into the new case

[pale aspen]

wait, i thought pc plate is not usable because its flexible property

[boreal ingot]

i finished ): i know i need a greyish mousepad now

[pale aspen]

what case is that?

[boreal ingot]

@pale aspen this is the PSD60 alum case.

[sharp frigate]

are those cannonkeys caps?

beautiful board

[boreal ingot]

yes @sharp frigate thank you i appreaciate that so much

[sharp frigate]

silver is sexy

[boreal ingot]

matches the mouse i have i just need to switch the mousepad

do you have one like did you mod yours yet

[agile latch]

I was thinking of getting that one in silver! Could you possibly send more pics of your keeb please? It looks awesome

[boreal ingot]

i got you

@agile latch

[agile latch]

bet

thx u

[boreal ingot]

my old one and don’t mind the caption 😅😅😅

[agile latch]

Can I see it from different angles? LOL sorry if thats too much

[agile latch]

real af tho

[boreal ingot]

no problem i got you

my phone acting weird so it might take a while

[agile latch]

You're real af thank u

[boreal ingot]

@agile latch

i need to get a coiled cable

lmk if you need anymore

[agile latch]

omg i love it

it looks like white basically lol

unless its just the flash

I wanted white but its sold out so I was thinking of settling for silver 💀

Thank you so much!

@boreal ingot

[boreal ingot]

if you join there server they can hook you up

just make a order and ask if they can make it white instead of silver

i can invite you to it if youd like

[agile latch]

omg

[agile latch]

please and thank you!

Didn't know that was an option haha

[mental hemlock]

Send the link to me too please

[boreal ingot]

HIIIÈ

SRY WILL DO RN

not tryna type iin caps

in

[bronze grove]

[dark saddle]

Don't. Not if you intend to use the Wooting.

[boreal ingot]

@dark saddle what’s wrong with a coiled cable

[dark saddle]

Too long, it'll cause instability

You want to use the stock cable or a high quality cable under 6ft.

[agile latch]

damn it

[bronze grove]

Ehh... Partial truth.

Coiled cables work fine, but you may need to compromise on LED brightness (usually turning it down to around 70% or so) or you also want Tachyon mode enabled, @agile latch

[agile latch]

I heard about it affecting tachyon mode :/

not really sure what that mode does, but ill find out in about a month when my wooting comes lol

[dark saddle]

Basically 500hz is default, 1000hz with Tachyon, it's lower latency

It's not going to change you into a god gamer though

[calm drift]

I know theres a list of cases compatible for the 60he, but is there any of them that are more universally agreed upon? Was disappointed to see the tofu60 being discontinued

[austere creek]

its always 1000hz

[next scaffold]

Hello, new here. Just got my Klippe T case and waiting on my Wooting. Was wondering will the foam that came with the wooting fit and sit nicely on the Klippe T case?

Or is polyfil a safer option?

[wispy wharf]

polyfil like for plush toys?

[next scaffold]

Yes

[wispy wharf]

see if the foam fits first

if not then cut to size or buy another eva sheet to cut to size

never heard of polyfil being used for this

[next scaffold]

Def will when it comes in. Just not sure if adding poly fil or like adding tape mod on the bottom will affect the performance or make cause it to act up, like possible interference when bottoming out

Like how some ppl say coiled cable interferes with tachyon mode

[wispy wharf]

tape mod can only help

not sure how it could cause interference when the tape goes on the underside of the board

[wispy wharf]

you mean acting like an inductor?

[next scaffold]

I’ve done a couple polyfil on keyboards did help with the “hollowness” of the keyboard

But like wooting so advance 😅

[wispy wharf]

that's what the eva foam is for

[next scaffold]

I mean maybe cause latency since there’s blockage between something. But I guess you’re right since it’s be on the underside of PCB

[wispy wharf]

...blockage?

[next scaffold]

Thus assuming foam from wooting won’t fit on Klippe T.

[wispy wharf]

well the 60he is compatible with standard 60 cases

so good chance the foam will be compatible

may need an extra hole or two

[next scaffold]

No no, you pointed it out. That it’ll be at the bottom of the pcb. Not switch polyfil then pcb lol

[wispy wharf]

the eva goes under the board as well

you could potentially put eva on the switch side if you make the proper cutouts

[next scaffold]

Yup I’m just overthinking it

[wispy wharf]

yes

[next scaffold]

I’m good. I’m even other thinking lubing the switches lol

[wispy wharf]

what i mentioned about topside eva is kinda what keychron does

[wispy wharf]

if you deem them in need of it then start with a little and test on one switch and add until satisfied

they made videos on this

maybe you aren't aware

[next scaffold]

I had a lot of time watching wootings playlist while waiting for the keyboard lol. I seen even the burger mount

But I’ve messed up 4 switches when I was new to lubing ‘em lol

[teal hill]

How do you break switches while lubing

I've lubed like 2000 or so at this point and I have not broken a single one while lubimng

[next scaffold]

Damn you’re cracked at it

Ngl I think I drowned the switches

[teal hill]

[next scaffold]

But again I was new

[teal hill]

Shouldnt matter either

[austere creek]

if they are just overlubed you can fix that though

[next scaffold]

On god, the spring was swimming in lube

[teal hill]

Lube doesnt break your switch

[austere creek]

ya so just remove some lube

[teal hill]

Chuck it in an empty bag and shake

to get all the excess lube off

[next scaffold]

Makes me even more scared knowing I broke a switch and it wasn’t from lubing 💀

[bronze grove]

Put a switch... into a bag... and shake.

[austere creek]

define broken

[teal hill]

nono