🔌│tech

[vagrant pagoda]

they are dark grey

[iron wave]

I mean like the UV curing inkjets.

[vagrant pagoda]

you mean like texture printing?

[iron wave]

The type of thing DBrand uses for their textured stickers.

[vagrant pagoda]

that isnt really something mech hobbiest want

[empty wren]

Oh

[vagrant pagoda]

thats for like crafty people

[empty wren]

The dark camo skin is cool and their robot ones

[iron wave]

Yeah.

I still think they are neat, I am not planning on getting one though.

[empty wren]

Interested in printing chocolate

[vagrant pagoda]

i dont do anything with stickers

[empty wren]

https://cocoapress.com/

[iron wave]

I have gotten a couple of cases from them.

[empty wren]

My grips fell apart

[iron wave]

Yeah I gave one of my phones to a friend and it happened to them.

[empty wren]

It was a cool concept

I liked the sticky ribs and low profile but eh

[iron wave]

I don't like stickers on my devices and I'm just not using cases now.

[empty wren]

I cut out some pieces of it since I did not want it to go to waste and they are now on the back of my phone directly

[vagrant pagoda]

id just laser it if i wanted texture

[empty wren]

At the very least, the vinyl is very high quality

[iron wave]

Yeah, but still stickers.

[empty wren]

Perhaps a bit cringe to pay $30 for a sticker yeah

[iron wave]

Transcoding on phones sucks.

[vagrant pagoda]

LMAO why

[empty wren]

Ah right tensor processor

[iron wave]

Where do you think Linus got his Porsche from?

[empty wren]

Wow

[iron wave]

Pulled dashcam footage with it.

[vagrant pagoda]

why do you need to encdoe it

[iron wave]

Too big.

[vagrant pagoda]

sounds like a bandwidth issue

[pastel galleon]

My mom gave me her old Pixel 8 Pro when she got her new Pixel 10 Pro, so I think I might get us both matching dark xray cases

[iron wave]

The service won't take it.

[iron wave]

I have a 10 Pro Fold right now.

WTF 0KiB

I should make a stupid little program that yeets media at my server to crush down to the file size limit.

[vagrant pagoda]

damn ffmpegkit is dead

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a handbrake docker. but rarely use it

[iron wave]

I was thinking a bash script that monitored a directory.

ionotify on close, transcode.

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/ERgnSetWkEA

[rough osprey]

why ts generating me a brush

[reef patrol]

https://www.politico.eu/article/netherlands-blocks-us-takeover-vital-digital-supplier/

[empty wren]

lol

[fair gull]

The politicization of this process has overshadowed the clear and important benefits this transaction would have brought to Solvinity's customers and Dutch citizens.
the benefit of.... working the same as it does now?

im confused what the benefit is supposed to be

[marsh glade]

Cost, likely

[fair gull]

meaning they difference is gained by other means

like lets say selling data

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GQuZFEjckw rip bc250 price

[steel cosmos]

Hi, I need to replace the USB-C port on my Wooting 60HE.
Could anyone confirm the exact USB-C connector specification or part number?
I’m especially trying to confirm whether it is a 16-pin USB-C receptacle, and what the mounting type / PCB footprint is.
Thanks!

[fair gull]

best to reach out to our support

also keep in mind you have 4yrs of warranty on the 60he so unless you caused this yourself you can prob also just get it replaced if its not older than 4yrs

[steady sail]

Oof

[craggy harness]

how much was that overhyped flyswatter before the price increase? 😄

[steady sail]

549 and 649

[craggy harness]

potatoes or USD or what? xD

[steady sail]

Euro

[rough osprey]

valve so greedy

[craggy harness]

i mean just looking at the difference in price for just 512GB more storage already tells me enough that they're greedy as fuck, 140€ more for an additional 512GB, meanwhile a 4TB nvme costs about 400-500

[distant tapir]

What's the top performer here? Does x2 mean it's two cards in one or something?

[fair gull]

x2 is either a version or means crossfire aka 2 cards

[craggy harness]

most likely crossfire, yea

[distant tapir]

It performs very well so maybe two cards is what I was thinking

[ashen spindle]

its not crossfire its two chips on one pcb

[ashen spindle]

and this is just false

[fair gull]

huh i thought they stopped that before 7xxx radeons

[ashen spindle]

7970 was the last

[craggy harness]

but then again, i kinda doubt that crossfire of 2 cards or 2 of the same chips on one card would get you from 67 to 151 😅

[ashen spindle]

no it goes from 84 to 151

[surreal thorn]

fuckkkk

[ashen spindle]

ofc if you compare base spec vs overclocked the overclocked gpu has more

[craggy harness]

also yea, what's false about that? the price difference between the 512GB and the 1TB model is 140€, so those extra 512GB cost you 140€ while the 4TB nvme i bought last month cost me 450€

[ashen spindle]

becuase thats not how business anywhere work, you dont increase prices by the raw materials if you have different tiers, if this was the only difference for example it could be that on the 512gb model they are eating part of the price increase

[craggy harness]

and mind you, that's regular customer prices on my end vs valves corpo discounted accuiring prices

[ashen spindle]

but disregarding that, the two models are not the same product

you have different screens

also lol good joke on valve getting discounted prices

nobody is getting discounted prices for memory these days

plus valve is not as big as a sony or nintendo or anyone who gets actual big orders

[craggy harness]

yea right, you wanna tell me that a corpo that bulk buys thousands of SSDs in one go won't get them cheaper than a regular nobody from an online reseller?

[ashen spindle]

we're not talking about a new product we're talking about a base price increase of an existing line, any company not the size of like apple is getting squeezed

anyway as I said, not even the relevant point because its not the same sku aside from the storage

[craggy harness]

even if that "premium" glass and the removable case liner would cost about 40€ which would already be stretching it immensely, the only other difference is some boot-"movie" and a keyboard theme, which knowing valve probably was done by some interns and in turn cost them next to nothing, so in the end those extra 512GB are still around 100€ compared to a 4TB SSD for 450 that's still absurd, heck even 50€ for the SSD would be absurd already

[ashen spindle]

whats the cheapest 512 ot 1tb you can find that they could use here

really curious to see where you can find half a TB on a 2230 ssd for 50€

because surely you didnt forget that regular sized ssds you find in your pc wont fit the steamdeck

[steady sail]

Steam deck uses the small one like older laptop or maybe they still use it the wifi/bluetooth thingy

[ashen spindle]

"heck even 50€ for the SSD would be absurd already"

yeah there are cheaper ones and I think the deck just uses gen3 but you still arent going to find any for 50 bucks lol

[young laurel]

I have a wooting 80 he does it have a macro feature like apex pro

[steady sail]

No

[lethal maple]

I get that its a great little handheld but no way anyone should be paying ~1k for one in 2026

[young laurel]

Oh

[ashen spindle]

yeha van gogh for a grand is insane, this is not a price anyone should pay for a deck

[lethal maple]

thats msi claw and legion go s prices

the only thing the steam deck really has is the mod support and the trackpads over them at this point

[ashen spindle]

well for now, they will have to increase prices as well if they run out of stock

[lethal maple]

fair yea, I'll actually be worried for our future if people do spend the 2k prices those will spike up too

on a side note about steam hardware, the demand is really crazy! I decided that I don't really enjoy controller gaming even after giving it a try so I listed my steam controller on marketplace for msrp + tax in cali

OFFERS WITHIN 10 mins

[lapis plaza]

This price increases echoes the latest gamer nexus video with all these companies explaining how bad the industry is right now

[lethal maple]

people really do want valve stuff

[lapis plaza]

A steam deck for these prices I am not sure it is worth it

I have one

[lethal maple]

for sure yea, I was just saying that

but it will sell

as much as its over priced and underpowered for that price, it really is the most usable handheld out there

[lapis plaza]

It will probably sell but much less

[lethal maple]

the trackpad and regular steamos updates really are what makes it

Idk why other companies dont get that, the trackpad is super usefull on larger handhelds

[lapis plaza]

I might end up selling mine for the price I got it

I never use it

[lethal maple]

I did that with my controller

I used it for 7 days, its really nice and great and comfortable

I just dont like gaming with one lmao, I prefer a keyboard so much more

[lapis plaza]

Yeah understandable

[lethal maple]

the pc gaming upbringing wont let me stomach 100 for a controller lmao

im gonna stick to my dualsense for spiderman

[lapis plaza]

I will get a gamesir I think

But nevertheless really wonder how many pc diy companies will survive 2 years from now

People can explain these price increase are logical does not change the fact it became awful

[ashen spindle]

some will die some new ones come after the prices are down

[steady sail]

I wanna mod my dualsense controller

[ashen spindle]

so far its still just the normal case of semis being very cyclical and this time the peak is just higher

[lapis plaza]

Yeah but for how long can it stay so high

If it is 5 years not a lot of companies will be there and people will have moved away to cloud computing

[lethal maple]

I hope corsair both dies and survives

just the PSU and Case business

or someone else picks up the cases

[lapis plaza]

Honestly I dont wish any of them close there are some employee and family depending on it

[lethal maple]

I love corsair, NZXT and lian li cases

[lapis plaza]

Apparently the only thing selling well these times would be monitors

I dont remember where I have seen this news

[steady sail]

I do love the NZXT H6 Flow case

[lapis plaza]

Asus sold more monitors this year than last year

[surreal thorn]

I still need to find a case 😭

[steady sail]

But be quiet cases are my favorite

[lapis plaza]

I have a be quiet one very good

[lethal maple]

I love my h5

its great for air cooling, nice and spacious

I love how cheap their H series cases can be espically, often find em for sale at sub 70

[steady sail]

I do wanna get a BeQuiet Light Base 600 tho

[lethal maple]

Ive heard of that! I heard its great

[surreal thorn]

fish tank cases are cool but airflow meh

[lethal maple]

It's a pretty fishtank

[surreal thorn]

and if im going noctua i might aswell have a good airflow case but idk which

[lethal maple]

on a sidenote, I don't love how big cases are bieng pushed aside for matx and sff cases

as much as a small dense pc is great, give me big towers with ample space to shove under a desk

[surreal thorn]

i think matx is very nice

but i like big computer

[lethal maple]

Does noctua make cases? I'd love for a noctua brown fractal north and whatever engineering they can shove into it

[surreal thorn]

theres a noctua antec flux pro

collab though

[lethal maple]

DAMN

I just went and bought a new case when I was doing the cpu swap

[surreal thorn]

i just dont know which case to get

theres too much

[steady sail]

I would love the Dark Base 701 case as well

[lethal maple]

if in doubt, get a h5 flow 2024 from nzxt

its like 60 bucks? clean and spacious

good front panel IO too

like THE most classic style of modern case I can imagine

[surreal thorn]

i want a good airflow case with dual chamber tbh

[lethal maple]

I would warn you, if you're doing AIO i would avoid it in that case, its a very air cooler centric case...can't fit a 360mm ontop easily

[surreal thorn]

but those rly dont exist

[surreal thorn]

yeah im doing noctua aio when that comes out

[lethal maple]

the wide fishtanks?

there is actually I think, one serc

@surreal thorn

[surreal thorn]

thats very thicc

[lethal maple]

2500D AIRFLOW Mid-Tower Dual Chamber

[steady sail]

Dual chamber gonna be thick

[lethal maple]

this one exists too, if you want taller

[surreal thorn]

true

[lethal maple]

tho be warned, these are always out of stock so you'de need to hunt one down

tbh I think lian li or another asian case manuf probably makes something very similar

[surreal thorn]

yeah just front panel and psu in the back

[craggy harness]

i was talking about 512gb vs 1tb difference and yea, 32€ difference and it would be a straight upgrade from your 512GB to a 1TB one here, heck pack another 85€ on top and you'd have a 2TB one instead 🤷‍♂️

[lethal maple]

personally im not a fan

I prefer my cases as like one shape

idk what it is, I dont like dual chambers at all lmao

[ashen spindle]

I should've known using an overpriced one that still sells to show the absurdity of the current market wouldn't be read correctly by you...

[lethal maple]

its an asthethic choice

[surreal thorn]

i just dont likebig thing at bottom

[lethal maple]

AND BOOM, okay the demand for the steam hardware is real

steam controller i put up is already sold lmao

[craggy harness]

why would i go by an overpriced one when complaining about valve overcharging for the upgrade? that entire take of yours was conceptually wrong 🤷‍♂️

[lethal maple]

I listed it at msrp since I didnt want to scalp and they offered 120 for it and pick it up from my place

[lethal maple]

that's fair

ONE THING i dont like about the nzxt cases is that the PSU pulls from inside the pc case

[surreal thorn]

nzxt cases are cool but

wish the prebuilt thing didnt exist

[lethal maple]

yea scammy company

their mobos are clean but sketch

I only trust msi with my mobos lmao

[steady sail]

Every company is scammy

[craggy harness]

only as scammy as there's dumb enough customers paying up willingly

[lethal maple]

nzxt just took advantage of minecraft and fortnite kids

but idk they just feel extra scammy, like apple of the pc parts world when they don't do anything worth adding an apple tax

[steady sail]

These days Apple prices looks normal

[lethal maple]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamdeckrefurbished

refurbished prices look ALOT more normal

good deals even

actually I take that back, 629 for the 512gb is OKAY

[lethal maple]

apple was just thinking ahead of the curve lmao

[steady sail]

I might just pick up that 512gb LCD one

[surreal thorn]

im going with gigabyte aorus

[lethal maple]

I still do love my macbook pro m4, its a great little laptop that does everything

if they made a mac mini neo I'd buy day one

[lethal maple]

nice!

[surreal thorn]

i would go with asrock but am5 :(

[lethal maple]

I stick to the MSI mag line

great motherboards

and their ONE QQL feature that i just love

the USB C and A case header ports are off to the side of the board at the corner

[steady sail]

I just want another ASUS mobo if i switch sockets

[lethal maple]

is that still a problem?

[lethal maple]

Asus is great, I've just been burned one too many times by em

laptops and pc parts

[surreal thorn]

they have the most issues and sell the least

soooooo i dont wanna risk it

[lethal maple]

well I mean yea, least sure didnt know they still had the cpu burn problem

[steady sail]

Gigabyte has that as well
Asus as well every mobo has that issue

[surreal thorn]

yeah but gigabyte the least

[lethal maple]

huh, welp gotta keep an eye on that 9800x3d

i have it PBO - 30 and +200mhz offset

[steady sail]

I run everything on stock basically

[lethal maple]

yea, its very marginal improvements

my 9800x3d does run cooler tho most of the time so its great

5070ti as well

[lethal maple]

just upgraded myself lmao

I might do anothger upgrade for 2028

[steady sail]

Tho i would get a B850 board and be happy

[surreal thorn]

im getting 9950x3d + 9070xt

[lethal maple]

get whatever the new zen6 cpu is and if the 6070ti has what a 30-40% uplift from the 5070ti?

[surreal thorn]

prob not the best combo

but the best amd has (unless 7900xtx but i cant find it anywhere)

[lethal maple]

why a 9950x3d?

[surreal thorn]

I have the money

[lethal maple]

fair enough lmao

you are getting marginally lower perf than a 9800x3d

[steady sail]

Why not 9950x3d2

[surreal thorn]

Thats too much then

[lethal maple]

he dosent have that much money I assume

[surreal thorn]

yeah but im not playing on 1080p

[lethal maple]

idk why any gamer would get one lmao

[surreal thorn]

most things the gpu will handle

[lethal maple]

fair enough tbh

baller moves over here lmao

[surreal thorn]

i just wish i built at a better time

[lethal maple]

my 5070ti and 9800x3d is doing great so far. IM SO HAPPY i got 64gbs of ram on a whim

[surreal thorn]

yeah very good combo

[steady sail]

5800x3d still going strong

[lethal maple]

if prices keep up like this (i pray they wont) hopefully that should be a nice little bunch to fund a new upgrade

which will only happen when cyberpunk 2 comes out

[lunar elm]

if its just for gaming you wont get any higher FPS wise over a basic 9800x3d

[surreal thorn]

yeah ik

[lethal maple]

It's been going great

[lunar elm]

prob could just slap that money into a 5070Ti, 4K Performance DLSS preset M and call it a day

[lethal maple]

i lucked out on my 5070ti silicon lottery so its even more within 5080 spitting distance

never felt more baller before in my life lmao

[surreal thorn]

nice

I hate lotteries

[steady sail]

I will be the one who gonna get am5 when am6 launches

[lunar elm]

my 5070ti prime sample is horrible be it silicon or a stupid asus vbios thing

[lethal maple]

he has the money apparently

plus going full team red

tho if you have the money why not get a 5080

[surreal thorn]

I was thinking at first but then ram prices kicked in and 💩

[lethal maple]

bad value but I mean, value is out of the window

[lethal maple]

oh lmao fair enough

[surreal thorn]

if not for the ram i could get a 5080 fs

[lethal maple]

TBF, they are still putting out am5 cpus appearntly for a while

[steady sail]

It would be fun to upgrade from AM4 to AM6 when it releases

[lunar elm]

why not just settle for the 9800 and use that difference from the 9950 for smth else lamoo

[lethal maple]

so you'de be set and getting cheap motherboards

win win

[steady sail]

Yeah ram prices are against me

[surreal thorn]

eh true

[ashen spindle]

As if anyone’s still alive in 2030

[surreal thorn]

im p sure 9800 also performs fine in some work things

[steady sail]

Oh true everyone will be converted into AI

[lethal maple]

9800x3d is what 1% to 4% average slower than a 9950x3d over 1440p?

yea I would get 9800x3d and get a 5080

or heck, more storage

those prices are going up too

[lethal maple]

just you wait till CAMM is a thing on desktops

[surreal thorn]

ok 9950x3d is like 2x better at workloads but i dont do stuff like that yet

[lethal maple]

shits gonna skyrocket lmao

[lapis plaza]

That is what I would like to do but by the time I fear 16 go of ram will be 1000 euros

[lethal maple]

BUT ATLEAST you can get even nicer air cooling

and the eventual OLED ram kits

[steady sail]

CAMM not gonna change anything

[surreal thorn]

ngl all the workload things are nice but i dont do blender etc

or any editing

[lethal maple]

I imagine CAMM is gonna make kits more expensive for a while than ddr kits based purely on how its a "new technology on desktop pcs"

[steady sail]

9850x3d with a 5070 ti

[lapis plaza]

On a 5600x my cpu start to be saturated on a lot of game. I was playing FH6 cpu is at 100%

[steady sail]

I don’t have infinite money

[lethal maple]

tbh, the world "productivity" workload is thrown around too much nowadays

the 9800x3d can do like 99% of anything a home user would do on a home pc

blender, editing, all that jazz

[surreal thorn]

i doubt anything i do would be way better on 9950x3d

i just watch youtube and sometimes play games

[lethal maple]

aye basically

I would prioritize storage and GPU

[surreal thorn]

i used to do blender things but not anything complicated

im getting 2tb

[steady sail]

Time to ball with a Threadripper

[surreal thorn]

You're right lemme get a 9995wx

[ashen spindle]

CAMM is currently not happening on desktop because of it being too difficult to use at high speeds

so its a bit up in the air what future boards for lpd6 will use on desktop

[steady sail]

Camm ram even gonna launch on pc anytime at all ?

[surreal thorn]

I might main linux on my pc so thats also why i wanna stay with amd gpu

[steady sail]

Before everyone turns into AI ?

[ashen spindle]

there are some boards but currently its all up in the air if it gets used at all

[steady sail]

Yeah so its up to the future

[lethal maple]

MSI has prototype boards as far as I know

yea Quin is right though, its not a next gen situation

I can just imagine tho lmao, that is PRIME PRIME panel realestate for fishtank cases

I can already picture the obscenely expensive ram kits for you to put your waifo on your ram

[nimble arch]

https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/27/meta-officially-launches-instagram-facebook-and-whatsapp-subscriptions-with-more-to-come-including-ai-plans/

[lethal maple]

Hell no lmao

lazy name too, Apple One exists

[steady sail]

Idk if i should get a core ultra 5 225 or an older intel cpu for a home plex/gamer server

[umbral heron]

Arrow Lake only if you want to encode to AV1
If you are happy with encoding to X265 and decoding AV1 then any 11th gen+, so even 11400 will do, just not F variants, they don't have iGPU

[ashen spindle]

wait for wildcat lake aka the lower end 300 chips for best igpu performance if its not a urgent build

[umbral heron]

Besides I believe Zen 4/5 is a bit better for that than Arrow Lake

[surreal thorn]

when even is next intel dropping

[steady sail]

I do wanna build it this year for sure

[ashen spindle]

wildcat lake is like launching right now, so this year you definitely can get nas's with it

[umbral heron]

NAS you say?

[steady sail]

Its gonna be on the same socket as ultra 200 series right ?

[steady sail]

Yeah

Home nas/server for plex and time to time some home server hosting

[umbral heron]

I mean, I need to buy NAS soon-ish too, so maybe waiting a bit for 300 series would be a good idea

Hol up
Wildcat Lake is like 5 almost the same CPUs

[steady sail]

This was my build that i wanted to do

[umbral heron]

Might want to look into 11th/12th gen if you want only for NAS/mini server, DDR4 sticks are quite cheaper

[steady sail]

I revisited my plan i soo i don’t need that ram i can get away with a cheaper stick

[surreal thorn]

Server seems cool but it seems scary to me

[umbral heron]

cube

[nimble arch]

But not for you

[umbral heron]

I don't want cube

[steady sail]

11th gen cpu only cheaper by 15€

[umbral heron]

[steady sail]

Sure mobo and ram is much cheaper but why not ball with it

[surreal thorn]

what r u gonna use it for

oh nvm i see

[steady sail]

Sure 10400 tray is even cheaper by 136€

[umbral heron]

10th gen is a tad too old by now I'd say

[steady sail]

Yeah 11th gen has only 1 mobo

Its an ASUS business model

[umbral heron]

11th gen can run on most 10th gen mobos

[steady sail]

I searched by socket

Sure i could get a used one as well

[surreal thorn]

ngl I like plex/jellyfin and media servers but i dont feel like pirating

[steady sail]

But i don’t think i need a Z490 board

Yeah im sticking with core ultra series

[surreal thorn]

or is there any other way to get media

[umbral heron]

Ripping BluRays

[steady sail]

I mainly wanna use it for old shows that u can’t find/buy with Hungarian dub

[plucky tapir]

Anyone know if you can change the default VPN list to be an include list instead of exclude? I'd actually use it if I could have it disabled by default but only work on the 2 websites I want.

[plucky tapir]

Over 300k feet to get your stuff, that's quite a climb.

[steady sail]

Yes

940€

[lyric hatch]

Unfortunately nowadays if you want to watch shows you need about 5 subscriptions to different places

[surreal thorn]

havent heard of those

[plucky tapir]

Nice, I was kinda just gonna buy the UGREEN DXP8800 Pro NAS and call it a day, get like 3 drives to start with so I could run the right raid setup.

[halcyon moss]

Raid 5?

Or zraid or something similar

[umbral heron]

I'm getting QNAP

Only if paycheck would come today AS IT SHOULD

[plucky tapir]

With ugreen probably raid 5, can't run raid 5 with only 2 disks so if I bought 2 then 1 later I'd have to remake the raid.

[plucky tapir]

It's just so expensive, same with Synology, higher price and slower hardware.

I have Synology atm.

[umbral heron]

And you picked UGREEN one which is even more expensive

[gusty kiln]

I'm using a terramaster with unraid

[umbral heron]

Plus Synology can f off

[halcyon moss]

I'm a bit out of the loop here, but I assumed that expanding a raid system is hard to do.

[gusty kiln]

https://a.co/d/05ZfqGB3

6 bays for 600

[plucky tapir]

Nah ugreen 8800dxp is cheaper than the Synology 1825+ which has a much slower SOC and also no 10Gb lan.

[umbral heron]

Here it's more expensive, like 200€ more

[gusty kiln]

https://a.co/d/0cEU0SRk
2 less bays with almost same spec for 850

[plucky tapir]

AMD Ryzen V1500B is so shit compared to the Intel i5 1235u in the Ugreen one.

[plucky tapir]

Yeah, ugreen has a much cheaper 6 slot one too but I want 8 minimum.

[gusty kiln]

synology is one of the most stingy company ever

[halcyon moss]

8? Geez

[plucky tapir]

Ideally I want 8 slots with 8x30TB discs

[gusty kiln]

I would honestly buy an intel minipc + a UNAS Pro

[plucky tapir]

Yah

[gusty kiln]

UNAS Pro is 7 bays for 499, then use a MiniPC as your actual server

[umbral heron]

I heard Louis recently about Synology
Meanwhile with QNAP over 3 years I only had good experience, so

[plucky tapir]

I was first thinking about the NAS boards with a n100 or w/e it is called but I can't find any good NAS cases I like, the Jonsbo ones are a bit meh.

[halcyon moss]

That is a lot of storage. What for?

[surreal thorn]

Is that legal

[umbral heron]

BluRays you bought? Sure

[gusty kiln]

been good with my terramaster, though not using their OS

[gusty kiln]

maybe this?
https://www.rosewill.com/rosewill-hearth-nas-black/p/9SIA072KVM9039

[umbral heron]

Maybe I should go with QNAP hardware and TrueNAS

[surreal thorn]

we dont have blurays lmao

i mean tbf im not gonna do a server rn

im too lazy for that

[lyric hatch]

Depends on country I'm pretty sure it's illegal in the US and Canada to rip a BluRay

[gusty kiln]

just got to make sure you have enough m.2, since truenas cannot be booted from a usb stick

[plucky tapir]

Shows, movies, music, I have like 3TB music atm and 50TB or so of shows and movies but I want to expand and store stuff that isn't just my favorites.

[surreal thorn]

im eu so

[gusty kiln]

you want like at least 4 m.2 for a truenas server

[umbral heron]

Of course you are not allowed to do anything in the Land of the Free™

[surreal thorn]

and i dont wanna do any server shit with prices rn

[plucky tapir]

I guess but at that point I might as well just get a rack 😄

[gusty kiln]

zfs mirror the boot, and zfs mirror your docker installs

[gusty kiln]

I wish the HL15 was cheaper

[umbral heron]

All I can do is 256G m.2 and 2x8TB spinny bois

Let's be honest - it will be as much seedbox as it is a storage

[plucky tapir]

I can get some older Synology RackStation stuff with 12 slots for 700 euroish used.

[steady sail]

Me with 120gb sata ssd

[gusty kiln]

ooo

I want to build a giga server one of these days

but no need for one atm lol

[umbral heron]

LackRack homelab

[gusty kiln]

https://store.45homelab.com/products/304

Homelab Unraid edition, but so expensive

[plucky tapir]

Do they sell only the rack case with no internals other than maybe the boards for the drives?

[gusty kiln]

for the regular HL15 yeah

they also have an HL4 and HL8

but they are more desktop form factor

[plucky tapir]

3000 usd that is before tax and stuff 💩

but that is with the i7 and motherboard + 16GB ram

[gusty kiln]

yeah it's hella yikes

I would totally buy the case if it was 400-500 but not at a grand

[umbral heron]

2 HBA cards, an used PC, and making case yourself would be like half of the price

[gusty kiln]

I've seen people just attach drives to a desktop PC with these
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61gsp18QOfL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[plucky tapir]

I can get a used DS1815+ for 250 euro, it's fine for just storage without doing any encoding etc.

[gusty kiln]

yeah get a seperate mini PC as the server

[plucky tapir]

I had one of these in my old computer, but it was from Lian Li

[gusty kiln]

apparently the DS1815+ tends to kill itself

[umbral heron]

I wonder what I should do with my PC with 6th gen Intel and 16G of RAM

[gusty kiln]

HTPC

[plucky tapir]

Someone sold the ugreen dxp8800 import China only model a while back with the i9 for 900 euro and I was too slow it sold to someone else

[surreal thorn]

id prob use a server for adblocking or self host pm

[plucky tapir]

Very old picture but I replaced the 5.25" drives with one of those an ran a Plex server on my main PC at the time.

[umbral heron]

I host 2 instances of qbitTorrent, homepage, piHole, phpIPAM and some random small docker containers

[plucky tapir]

I ran a docker thingy to keep track of website changes to alert me by email if something came back in stock or if there were new listings etc

Don't remember name

I also bought the snakeoil cable

[surreal thorn]

ive heard of qbit idk what it is tho

[umbral heron]

torrent client

[plucky tapir]

Best torrent client, best looking one is Transmission.

[umbral heron]

[plucky tapir]

I ran Pihole for a long time but the main reason I used it was YouTube and that stopped working so I just stopped running it.

[umbral heron]

Blocks a lot of other stuffs too, plus I run uBlock in browser anyway

[plucky tapir]

You can run it on windows without the gui and just as a daemon but I like the dark theme:

[umbral heron]

I have light theme on public torrent instance and dark on private
In private one I have DHT disabled, but that's pretty much it

[steady sail]

In the meantime i kinda finished a template for my home server

[umbral heron]

4TB

[steady sail]

2x4TB

[plucky tapir]

I'd 100% buy a 8TB disk over 2 4TB

Cheaper too afaik

[steady sail]

Nope 1x8TB cost 15€ more

[plucky tapir]

Depends on store and where you live I guess. I'd value using 1 less slot more than 15 euro though but that's just me.

[steady sail]

Okay i had a 10TB one here but around the same price

[plucky tapir]

How much is the 10TB one in euro?

[umbral heron]

2TB more for 15€ more? Sold

[plucky tapir]

2018 10TB disk 280 euro 💀

[steady sail]

397€

+-27% tax

[plucky tapir]

AI sucks, fuck AI.

[umbral heron]

3 years ago I bought 8TB HDD for half than it costs today

[plucky tapir]

I know, it sucks. Old outdated hardware getting more expensive is the worst timeline.

[lethal maple]

These prices had me thinking over work actually. I genuinely wonder who’s going to be buying the steam machine at this point? 789 for a 512gb oled on the deck is actually crazy…the steam machine is easily 1k plus now even at the lower end

[plucky tapir]

1k and slower than a base PS5

That you can get for like 300 used

[steady sail]

The steam machine could be 1500 or more at this point

[plucky tapir]

Scalpers will buy

[lethal maple]

They could have contracts negotiated prior to all this but even then, I doubt they can keep manufacturing and selling at a decent markup

At this point I could clearly see the machine selling out the already made stock and maybe cancelling future restocks or delays

[ashen spindle]

The machine is not going to be 1500 that’s not even close to realistic

[lethal maple]

I’m assuming 1.2k for the 1TB?

Maybe 900-1k for 512

Even then that’s just absurd

[ashen spindle]

You have to look at it this way, check what you can get with diy prices then cut gpu and cpu price in half because valve is getting leftovers that AMD couldn’t sell elsewhere

[umbral heron]

Comparing Machine to PS5 doesn't make sense
Of course it will have way more value for people who already have games in Steam library and none on PS, they would choose to pay a bit on top than to re-buy their games

[plucky tapir]

Steam Machine is not aimed at people who already have a PC though, so how big could their Steam library be?

[ashen spindle]

oh it absolutely is aimed at people who might already have a pc

[plucky tapir]

I've rebought every game I have on Steam on my consoles and I regret buying the games on Steam.

[plucky tapir]

If your PC is 10 years old maybe.

[ashen spindle]

its aimed at everyone who might want a console-like pc in the living room next to your tv

[plucky tapir]

The only feature the Steam Machine have over a regular computer is HDMI CEC

[ashen spindle]

form factor

and ease of use

[lethal maple]

I feel like the audience initially was people with decks that want a more docked pc setup. The controls translate between both almost instantly

[umbral heron]

It tiny coob

[plucky tapir]

At 400 euro I'd buy a steam machine just to play around with it for the lulz for a bit and then forget about it because it's slow so why use it?

At 1000+ I might as well buy something else fun that I don't feel like an idiot for buying.

[umbral heron]

I'm buying even at 1k€
CS skins will pay for all that like they did for controller

[lethal maple]

Just sold mine lmao

[steady sail]

Mark is still waiting for his controller

[marsh glade]

I have a handful of friends locally who are interested in gaming, but are either not satisfied with the consoles they have or don't want a console because they also want to be able to do other things.
Depending on value, the Steam Machine is what I would recommend to them, and I've suggested to each that they wait to decide on a purchase until more about it is known

[lethal maple]

As much as I liked the controller and felt the price was fair, I just am too much of a kbm guy

[ashen spindle]

400€ makes no sense even pre ram prices

[plucky tapir]

New Steam Deck price in EU, like the Machine will be more than that 100%

[ashen spindle]

no you can not use the deck as a price indicator in any way

[plucky tapir]

I'd never recommend someone buy the machine with the specs it has.

[ashen spindle]

the specs of the machine are irrelevant the price is the deciding factor and has been ever since

[marsh glade]

Price speculation is just that, speculation. The value proposition is unknown until info becomes available

It'll be weeks or less until that info becomes available, not long to wait now

[nimble arch]

It might be speculation, but the general trend of hardware pricing in the PC market doesn't point towards the Steam Machine (and Steam Frame) being affordable.

[marsh glade]

Affordable? Probably not. But its value proposition depends on its relative pricing, not absolute

[nimble arch]

I'd very much like to be surprised with good pricing.

[ashen spindle]

its not going to be 400 but its also not going to cost more than a oem is going to offer you for better specs, all comes down to how big of a hit they are willing to take

[lethal maple]

There was talks of subsidizing it in a recent interview

[plucky tapir]

Steam games in general are expensive even on sale so they could take quite a hit and still be fine, if what they wanted to do was sell volumes but I don't think they care about that. I think at most the will sell it without making any money on it.

[marsh glade]

I don't agree that Steam games are expensive, provided you don't buy new games

[ashen spindle]

they could sell them for free and be fine but they said they wanted to offer it at similar to a regula OEM at first

[fervent valley]

1k doesnt seem like too much for a pc if i wanted something better ill def have to pay a couple hundred more

[ashen spindle]

went to pcpartpicker and spent 2 minutes https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xr8v3R

valve is getting a cheaper cpu and cheaper gpu

[nimble arch]

I don't agree that Steam games are expensive, publishers set their own prices.

[ashen spindle]

so no, 1500 is not even close to realistic

[nimble arch]

New games release for £20 all the time, that's not a lot of money for a game.

[marsh glade]

Last three games I bought were Bokura for 1.61, Soulmask for 24,29, and Jedi Survivor for 6.99. Got my money's worth out of all three, for sure

[plucky tapir]

1500 for the Steam Machine? Probably not for the specs and storage is has, but I can see the PS6 being that much in europe with tax.

[ashen spindle]

???? no the ps6 isnt going to break a grand even

[marsh glade]

Last full price game I bought was Arc Raiders, at 40 euros

[steady sail]

I mean steam games are kinda cheap, but on PlayStation i kinda have hard time to believe bc of the subscription prices

[plucky tapir]

On Steam last game I bought at all was Baldur's Gate 3, hated that I bought it there so I bought the physical release for the PS5 as well.

[ashen spindle]

sony is going to subsidize the ps6 a lot, they did so before and they will do so again

[nimble arch]

Sony give a lot of games away which does cost them money. The bigger win for them is the ever increasing digital game sales alongside no major market of license keys.

[ashen spindle]

but no I just made that list to show if you can use retail hardware to make a 1k pc better than steam machine, valve can make it for less than a grand

[umbral heron]

Bokura

[nimble arch]

I'm pretty sure Xbox is the only console that has a market for third-party license keys like we have with Steam keys.

And even then, I don't see much about Xbox keys.

[plucky tapir]

I don't buy a lot of standard edition games from stores, mostly used but I bought these recently which is like 4 euro each:

[umbral heron]

I bought Dead as Disco for 15€ and feeling like I ripped off devs

[nimble arch]

I'm ready to drop $100 USD big ones on the GTA VI standard edition 🙂

[marsh glade]

I paid 1/7th the price you did for Jedi Survivor

[nimble arch]

Inject it into my veins already

[plucky tapir]

You paid more? 6.99 is more than 4.00ish, unless you paid 0.7 euro?

[umbral heron]

I'm ready to wait 5 years for GTA VI to be free on Epic, so I can buy it on 90% discount on Steam

[marsh glade]

49/7=7

[plucky tapir]

So you paid 0.7 euro?

[marsh glade]

Oh that's a different currency

[nimble arch]

More like Rockstar Launcher exclusive

[steady sail]

You mean 13 years ?

[plucky tapir]

Unless it's 809 euro by default yeah 💀

[marsh glade]

Wouldn't put it past EA

[nimble arch]

And with DRM/anti-cheat that doesn't work in Proton

[umbral heron]

For GTA V it took 7

[steady sail]

From 2015 ?

[plucky tapir]

I remember getting like 3 new GTA games on 1 console

[nimble arch]

I'm willing to bet 200 Yen that free EGS games stop before GTA VI is even on PC

[umbral heron]

Then 5

[steady sail]

Okay it was free in 2020 may

[nimble arch]

It's a strategy that hasn't gotten them paying consumers

They will stop it sooner or later

[plucky tapir]

My EGS account is only full of free games, will I ever install EGS and play any of them? Fuck no.

[steady sail]

There are some gems on there

[plucky tapir]

Yeah but I'd need to bloat my PC with the Epic Games launcher

[umbral heron]

I could sell my EGS account
There's like Fortnite stuff from very beginning on it

[nimble arch]

Alan Wake 2 will still be stuck on EGS though

[fervent valley]

anyone here would buy a steam machine?

[nimble arch]

Remedy wondering their games don't sell but they always make bad decisions

[plucky tapir]

Never played Fortnite once in my life, never played League of Legends either.

[nimble arch]

Alan Wake 1 released the same day as RDR1 back in the day

[crimson wigeon]

Well yeah Epic was the only one willing to fund the game

[plucky tapir]

If it was 400 euro I'd buy for the lulz to play old console games or something, anything over that then no.

[steady sail]

Just those could pay for the Steam Machine

[nimble arch]

Control was EGS timed exclusive

[umbral heron]

You can use Heroic launcher, can't play online with it, but you can play games from EGS without needing a launcher

[plucky tapir]

Alan Wake 1 is one of my favorite games, Alan Wake 2 was a day 1 buy for me.

[umbral heron]

Me
I wan and I have CS skins to pay for it

[lapis plaza]

I am playing alan wake 1 I am at episode 5

[nimble arch]

Alan Wake Remastered and Alan Wake 2 suffer from not being on Steam at all. Not to mention being a remaster (AW1) and sequel (AW2) of a cult hit from the Xbox 360.

[fervent valley]

wtf 😮 free funding

[plucky tapir]

ANOTHER launcher? I don't want launchers anymore! I remember buying GTA 5 from rockstar so I didn't need any launcher at all and now if I want to play I need some stupid rockstar launcher.

[nimble arch]

I'm sure they'll find a way to fuck up the new Control game, probably by releasing alongside Marvel's Wolverine or GTA VI.

[umbral heron]

To avoid shite EGS one I'd do that

[steady sail]

I kinda waiting for Control 2

[fervent valley]

ill probably buy it after i look at reviews assuming it will be available lol

[steady sail]

Control 1 is my all time favorite

[lapis plaza]

The teaser of control 2 is crazy

[steady sail]

And the DLC’s where fun as well

[nimble arch]

Very much leaking into #🎮│game territory here, but releasing alongside major AAA games is always a bad idea. Remedy have suffered hugely from this. Rise of the Tomb Raider suffered because everyone got Fallout 4 instead.

[plucky tapir]

I can barely stand Steam and people consider that good, if I could just play without any launcher I'd be happier.

[plucky tapir]

Nice! You playing the old one or the remaster?

[lapis plaza]

The old one

I dont have the remaster

[umbral heron]

Steam Deck now works as my "Machine", does all the lifting for streaming from PC and playing lighter games
So Machine is a Day 1 for me, especially since a lot of games I'm interested in will easily run on it

[plucky tapir]

Control 2 is a day 1 buy for me if game is on disc, Control 1 was my GOTY

[lapis plaza]

The episode with the police officer where she fight with you is fun. I just use a light and let her do the killing

[nimble arch]

You have a gaming PC though? Why buy a lower spec desktop in this economy?

[gusty kiln]

updating my Unraid server, wish me luck

[fervent valley]

i got a 5 year old laptop so ill probably get a steam machine as a upgrade tho will see

[umbral heron]

Because I wanna play being comfy on my sofa and chill with gamepad in one hand and cold Dr Pepper in another

[nimble arch]

Steam Link exists

[lapis plaza]

Understandable

[nimble arch]

Steam Deck dock + remote play also exists

Considerably cheaper ways to achieve this outcome

[gusty kiln]

not fan of dr pepper

[iron wave]

https://youtu.be/l8-5lSVCR2w

Fluke better watch out.

[umbral heron]

I know, I use Moonlight now
But I don't want to have my whole PC running and chugging tons of power when small cube can do

[fervent valley]

the big pc is for the cat meow

[plucky tapir]

I tried Moonlight way back in the day, around the same time the Steam Link app released for Samsung TVs.

[umbral heron]

I love Dr Pepper, my 2nd fav soft drink, second only to Kofola

[steady sail]

Hmmm Rog Ally Z1E for 370€

[plucky tapir]

Wtf is a kofola

[leaden kiln]

intellectual drink

[steady sail]

Kofola is goated

[gusty kiln]

if I had to choose, think pepsi is my fav

[fervent valley]

i have a bunch of pepsi cans

[leaden kiln]

pepsi is fine but pepsi max is so gross

[plucky tapir]

I only buy Pepsi on sale like last week it was 4 1.5l pepsi max for 4 euro, otherwise I buy coke zero.

[umbral heron]

[steady sail]

I do have a Coca Cola glass bottle somewhere from the 70’s

[gusty kiln]

I take that back

these are my fav

[umbral heron]

Czech herbal cola

[gusty kiln]

also mexican coke/pepsi

[plucky tapir]

I had mine from the 90s ish, they were so nice and then after like 20 years I dropped one and it shattered, I was so sad to only have 1 left and that broke just a week later. 20 YEARS AND I BRAKE BOTH IN 1 WEEK!!!!

[umbral heron]

Mexican?

[steady sail]

[plucky tapir]

Better than drinking water at least 💀

[gusty kiln]

cuz they use real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup that the US uses

hell nah, Water is the goat

Hydro Homie rise up

[plucky tapir]

I drink sparkling water only

If not that then coke zero

[umbral heron]

Water with syrup

[plucky tapir]

I don't drink tea or coffee

[fervent valley]

ive never tried jarritos i see those alot

[leaden kiln]

what kinda water you got there brochacho
my water tastes great

[gusty kiln]

Mandarin and Pineapple are probably my favs

they are cheaper than regular soda too

[leaden kiln]

municipal water kinda gross though

[plucky tapir]

My water tastes like nothing so like water? We have our own spring so it's not bad I just always want something to drink and then I drink coke zero. If I'm actually thirsty I drink water ofc.

[gusty kiln]

I want to install one of those fancy reverse osmosis water filter machine in my home

[umbral heron]

Alway water with syrup

[steady sail]

Water with some lemon juice

[plucky tapir]

What syrup?

[fervent valley]

such a nice cup 😮

[umbral heron]

This one is homemade lemon sugar syrup

[plucky tapir]

Most of the time, I don't drink because I'm thirsty I just want to keep my mouth busy and entertained you know.

[fervent valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-write-scribble-sketch-draw-gif-17181052902092737226

[umbral heron]

Nuts
Tasty, good for you and make for a good snack

[plucky tapir]

I don't even know if I've ever had syrup at all, ever, so I don't know what it would taste like 😄

[steady sail]

Just buy cola concentrate from pepsi or coca cola

[gusty kiln]

do you guys think soda from the fountain drink taste better than the packaged version?

[plucky tapir]

I was gonna do that at some point then forgot

[lapis plaza]

I only drink rain water filtered 3 liter a day I am into hydratationmaxxing

[umbral heron]

Most syrups are easy, sugar, water and fruit

[plucky tapir]

Not really, the temperature of the drink matters more to me.

If I can't get a cold from drinking my drink too fast it's not cold enough.

[lapis plaza]

I have a friend always telling that the best cola is the one in glass bottle

[gusty kiln]

the glass bottle usually is real sugar

at least in the US

[umbral heron]

Best are strawberries - mix 1:1 with sugar, leave for the night, drain, liquid can be boiled into syrup for water, and solids can be boiled into jam

[lapis plaza]

Glass bottle real sugar plastic bottle fake sugar?

[plucky tapir]

Real sugar everywhere else in the world afaik?

[plucky tapir]

Only in US I think?

[steady sail]

Can i get some PSU recommendations tho ATX size and 160mm lenght max

[lapis plaza]

I dont know

[gusty kiln]

high fructose corn syrup usually

[plucky tapir]

Seasonic x Noctua 1600W

[steady sail]

[lapis plaza]

Fanta orange however is my fav soda

[umbral heron]

I mean sugar is so cheap here that using corn syrup wouldn't make sense

[plucky tapir]

Seasonic Focus GX usually cheap and good

[gusty kiln]

which version

[lapis plaza]

You can find fanta orange zero in germany but not in france

[gusty kiln]

US fanta is radioactive

[lapis plaza]

In france and germany it is the right one

[plucky tapir]

Fanta Orange Zero is actually really good, it tastes so much like Fanta you can't taste the sweetener, at least I can't like I can with coke.

[gusty kiln]

chinese soda uses maltose rather than sugar/syrup

[umbral heron]

The left one is not Fanta

[lapis plaza]

Fun fact once I was drinking fanta orange comfy in bed and I felt asleep. The next morning I wake up there was a wasp inside the glass guess it got attracted by the sugar

[steady sail]

Thats Fant

[plucky tapir]

Left one is radioactive waste 😮

[lapis plaza]

You know what I used to drink that everyday in germany

Fav drink ever

Sadly we dont have it in france

[plucky tapir]

🙁

I picked up a few bottles the other day, I'll drink those until I get bored of the taste.

[lapis plaza]

If we had it here I would be drinking that all day

[surreal thorn]

I would not fant to drink that then

[lapis plaza]

I should start a petition

[plucky tapir]

I bought 7-up zero and sprite zero today, gonna test those and see if I like them now.

[gusty kiln]

ginger ale is kinda underrated

[lapis plaza]

True

In france we have one called canada dry

[plucky tapir]

Never had a ginger ale once in my life.

[gusty kiln]

decent, some are even a little spicy

[lapis plaza]

But I hate dr pepper

😵‍💫

[gusty kiln]

Dr Pepper is pretty polarizing

love it or hate it

[lapis plaza]

Yeah I dont like it at all

Red bull has a good taste too but I dont want to drink taurine or caffeine

It reminds me of candies

[plucky tapir]

Never had an energy drink in my life either but I have tasted redbull, not a fan.

[gusty kiln]

rather have tea/coffee than energy drink for caffeine

[lapis plaza]

When I was younger people were drinking redbull vodka at parties

[plucky tapir]

I don't drink those either I tried coffee when I was 5 and hated it, why would I like it now? 😛

[tribal dirge]

It's aight

[tribal dirge]

Ts lean now lmao

[gusty kiln]

cuz you can basically make it into a milkshake lol

[covert silo]

Does anyone know how to change case I have holy 60 and the plastic sheet in there

[tribal dirge]

People be doing lean at parties

[lapis plaza]

What is lean?

[gusty kiln]

but I like black coffee in certain mood

[plucky tapir]

I don't like milkshakes lol

[tribal dirge]

Drugged up cocktail

[lapis plaza]

There is a cocktail called white russian with coffee liquor

[covert silo]

Does anyone know how to change case I have holy 60 and the plastic sheet in there

[lapis plaza]

If I remember

[covert silo]

Does anyone know how to change case I have holy 60 and the plastic sheet in there

Does anyone know how to change case I have holy 60 and the plastic sheet in there

[plucky tapir]

3x no?

[gusty kiln]

#🔧│keyboard_modding

[lapis plaza]

Look we are into drinking stuff not keyboard

[covert silo]

Thanks

[plucky tapir]

This is the #drink-tech channel

[covert silo]

Then why in a tech group

Nah it’s not

[lapis plaza]

It is the soda alcoholic beverage channel

[covert silo]

No

No

[lapis plaza]

You seems very angry lil potatoe

[plucky tapir]

You did you check the manual?

[lapis plaza]

What is holy 60?

[covert silo]

Case

[plucky tapir]

Case with holes in it

[lapis plaza]

Oh ok

[steady sail]

So i gonna roll with that PSU in the end

[gusty kiln]

what currency is that or is it in feets

[steady sail]

This build right here is 1050€ish

[surreal thorn]

those are some quiet components

[steady sail]

Hungarian Forint

[steady sail]

Would be great for a home server/nas

[surreal thorn]

Only 1 decibel for most

[steady sail]

And i can get a Tunsten cube for cooling

[surreal thorn]

but thats a little tall for a pc

server

[steady sail]

Calsy would be proud

[covert silo]

No gpu?

[plucky tapir]

iGPU good enough

[covert silo]

No

[steady sail]

https://www.chieftec.eu/products-detail/491/CI-02B-OP perfect lil cube

[covert silo]

Can’t run cyber punk

[steady sail]

Its not for gaming

[plucky tapir]

Why play Cyberpunk on a NAS?

[covert silo]

Ok

Ok what gpu you got

[plucky tapir]

You can run Cyberpunk with Geforce Now, be part of the future the companies wants you tto embrace.

[lapis plaza]

Own nothing and be happy 😎

Rent everything

[covert silo]

Yeah but not on high Setings

[plucky tapir]

Geforce Now you can get RTX 5080 so good enough for normies

[covert silo]

Big delay

No it’s 4080

[steady sail]

Its a 5080 tho

[covert silo]

Is it

In my region it’s 4080

[plucky tapir]

5080 and 100 hours of playtime per month I think

Maybe cheaper tier is 4080?

[covert silo]

Well I have a real gpu

[plucky tapir]

Performance tier just says "GeForce RTX" for me so no clue

[steady sail]

Looks like both

[lapis plaza]

Sad to say but geforce now ultimate is 220 euros

A good deal actually

[plucky tapir]

240 euro a year to own nothing, very nice.

[lapis plaza]

Yeah

[plucky tapir]

I'd rather spend 5k and lose more than 240 euro a year than give them money.

[covert silo]

Is it better then normal 5080

[plucky tapir]

Should be better, afaik they have server grade 5080s with more VRAM

[covert silo]

So there better

[lapis plaza]

Well for a low income family I would understand them to get geforce now

[fervent valley]

i find myself not playing the games offered in that service so i dont really think i would buy that service

[gusty kiln]

what about game pass

[lapis plaza]

Game pass you need a console no?

[covert silo]

I got a normal 5080 is that better then the streaming

[gusty kiln]

there's PC game pass

[steady sail]

Im fine with my 5800x3d+RX9070

[plucky tapir]

I wouldn't use it at any price out of principle so it is what it is, afaik you can't play multiplayer games on there with anti-cheats?

[lapis plaza]

Well with geforce now if I understand you can use it on any pc

[fervent valley]

yeah selection is so limited thats why it dont take off

[covert silo]

My 5080 and 9800x3d are better

[gusty kiln]

PC game pass till gets Day 1 games

which is very nice

[plucky tapir]

I have tested it, it's "fine" for stuff like Balatro and super slow stuff if using a controller, with mouse it sucks ass you feel the lag too much.

[plucky tapir]

Shame I will never give Microsoft any money, I will waste their money any time I can though.

[lapis plaza]

Still I believe if ram price doesnt get back to normal people will use cloud computing

[plucky tapir]

Over my dead body 😮

[fervent valley]

when i got it for free i didnt use it that much tbh

[gusty kiln]

plenty of datacenters for it too

[lapis plaza]

But is it streaming or just an access to the games?

[lapis plaza]

Yeah and for mass surveillance

[plucky tapir]

Ultimate is streaming, the rest you can play local I think?

[fervent valley]

i dont binge play games like i binge movies so i find it weird that its a sub imo

[gusty kiln]

yeah it's mostly local play

there are a lot of indie games on game pass that I try on a whim

[plucky tapir]

Is their app still called xcloud?

[gusty kiln]

which is what I mainly use it for

Peppa Pig and FH6

[lapis plaza]

Earlier I dont remember who but someone was telling about getting a steam machine for playing on his tv on the couch

Why not getting this instead

I say that and I hate cloud computing

[plucky tapir]

because you don't own geforce now?

[lapis plaza]

Yeah that is the principle

[plucky tapir]

Throwing money at nothing

[gusty kiln]

yeah if you wana own, then steam machine is the way to go

in home streaming

[fervent valley]

geforce now may not have the games you wanna play ngl

[plucky tapir]

If steam machine is like 700 euro it will take 3 years for the Steam Machine to be paid of vs Geforce Now but you also have a Steam Machine in the end

[gusty kiln]

could also just install steamOS on a cheap AMD machine/laptop

[plucky tapir]

And if the world is still fucked in 3 years your steam machine will be worth more in 3 years than today 💀

[lapis plaza]

Dont get me wrong I am against the subscription based society I just notice that the price are quite low compared to what it cost right now to build a pc

[plucky tapir]

This is how they get you, don't let them tempt you.

[lapis plaza]

It will happen I think

[gusty kiln]

by design

[lapis plaza]

I have a pc with a 9070xt I am ok and I am against any form of subscription

[fervent valley]

i just feel as though people dont buy it cause its like very weird to them the idea of streaming like being able to play something with any device and not need a dedicated gaming device

[plucky tapir]

When your only option is digital games and rent hardware we will truly be fucked.

[fervent valley]

people really like devices that do specific things well

[lapis plaza]

You guys should watch the latest gamer nexus video the cooler master guy in the interview think it will end up like this

[plucky tapir]

I'm weird, but I'd not even use if it was free.

[gusty kiln]

self hosting my own music because a lot time certain song/album gets remove/disable from streaming services

[plucky tapir]

This is the main reason I bought my original NAS because Spotify removed Nightwish and Taylor Swift 😮

[gusty kiln]

like the record label fighting about rights with the service

yeah

just randomly no you cannot listen to this album today cuz rich people are fighting

[plucky tapir]

Same reason games get delisted, people can't buy and play Forza Horizon 3 or 4 today without buying a used physical copy.

Or piracy

[gusty kiln]

shame there are a lot more hoops to jump for games

[plucky tapir]

Horizon 5 will be delisted soon as well probably

[plucky tapir]

Yupp

[fervent valley]

i just feel its so weird for the average person to wrap their head around doing that they will just buy the system still

[gusty kiln]

I'm using plex, what are you using for music?

[vagrant pagoda]

only streaming i ever used was og google play music as you could upload your own tracks and stream them. and the app was better than any open one

[gusty kiln]

same

[vagrant pagoda]

but i always had my own lib of ripped cds

[gusty kiln]

I had an og google play music sub

[vagrant pagoda]

only issue with home cloud music is its hard to discovery new tracks

[plucky tapir]

I've watched it and fallen asleep twice trying to watch it. But I'm tired of like 5 companies ruining my life.

[vagrant pagoda]

so i use like lastfm

[gusty kiln]

I have YT prem for discovering new music

[plucky tapir]

For music on my phone I use an app called Plexamp, audiobooks I use Prologue.

[vagrant pagoda]

ai as killed ytm

the recs are total ass

[gusty kiln]

yeah I use plexamp on the go, I use Audiobookself for audiobooks

[plucky tapir]

I tried this but they wouldn't let you upload lossless audio, they would convert it.

[vagrant pagoda]

you couldnt stream lossly back then so it didnt matter

[plucky tapir]

On my PC I use foobar2000 for music and mpc-hc for movies/shows.
On my TV I use Kodi.

[gusty kiln]

do you know about monochrome?

[plucky tapir]

Monochrome shut down no?

[vagrant pagoda]

the dont have good recs either

[gusty kiln]

I'm on it right now

[plucky tapir]

URL still .tf?

[gusty kiln]

ye

[plucky tapir]

Hype, it was gone for a while at least.

[vagrant pagoda]

they annouced it would shutdown at the end of this month i thinki

[gusty kiln]

rip

[vagrant pagoda]

i hafve been meaning to try plexamp

but i use fin

[gusty kiln]

it's nice, but idk how long until Plex enshitification kicks in

[plucky tapir]

I have Plex lifetime which is now valued at 750 dollar 😄

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a og 99 buck plex lifetime XD

[gusty kiln]

same

[lapis plaza]

I just checked the reddit of geforce now they have the same discussion we are having

[vagrant pagoda]

but yeah

i mainly try to use foss

[gusty kiln]

might switch over to navidrome if plex becomes ass

[vagrant pagoda]

navi dosent have recs :{

[plucky tapir]

For music or everything? I use Kodi for local stuff only Plex remote.

[gusty kiln]

music

[vagrant pagoda]

navi is just music

i tried it, but just went back to fin

i use symphone or what ever its called for the cleint

[gusty kiln]

yeah that's the popular one on android

it can also access plex library

[vagrant pagoda]

i gave up plex a decade ago

XD

foss ❤️

[plucky tapir]

Plex is fine still for me, no way I will go over to Jellyfin in the near future

[gusty kiln]

rebooting my unraid server for update

seems like everything works

[surreal thorn]

I need to stop looking at cases its too overwhelming

omg

i just found the solution kind of

o11d evo has a front mesh kit

ok it basically does nothing but still it looks ocol

[sullen bear]

Only a 9800x3d and 5080? Smh outdated specs

Not even the 9950x3d2 with an msi godlike 5090

[surreal thorn]

ok actually, it does a bit for gpu

[sullen bear]

Why not get the dual chamber stuff

[surreal thorn]

wdym

[lethal maple]

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-2500D-AIRFLOW-Small-Tower-Chamber/dp/B0CQ5G3NW9

Dual chamber that dosent have horrid airflow you complained about earlier today

I've been considering lately

It would be hillarious to put a build in something like this

cute little tower case

[lyric hatch]

Aquarium case

[surreal thorn]

Issue is m-atx

I think the o11d mesh kit solved my problem though

[lethal maple]

is it? I saw there was an ATX case as well

I sent the wrong link then, my bad

yea the o11d mesh kit is usefulll

I just dont like the 011d, it feels too narrow to me

[iron wave]

Is there a good way to figure out what the bottlenecks are for this?

[empty wren]

wow

ratrig used to sell custom cut profiles now the listing is compeltely gone, to be fair not like they were outstanding or anything. They used to have kits with configuration options now it is premade kits only

[vagrant pagoda]

you doing cpu or gpu encode?

[iron wave]

GPU, I don't think an i7-3770K can transcode a 4K video at 23 times speed.

[vagrant pagoda]

XD i didnt see the 23x lol

i also doubt its doing 23x to begin with

1400 fps would be insane for encoding

qvc cant do 4k 2x let alone 23x

my a380 taps out at like ~100 fps per stream on 4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoYeJwN7Rkw

how long before we got crack/meth heads selling 6000 pros?

[iron wave]

Huh.

Is the source not actually 4k? I could be wrong.

[vagrant pagoda]

4k-4k

[vagrant pagoda]

hell doing 4k-1080p i only see like 10x max

hvec encoding, no shot thats more than 1x

[iron wave]

How is my 10 year old Quadro stomping you?

They only took a few minutes per to transcode.

[latent ibex]

Does anyone know when they will restock aluminium wooting 80he black

[vagrant pagoda]

ohhh

i was thinking you were doing qvc on thed 3770k

no nvec is king

[iron wave]

I just want to know what the slow bits are.

[vagrant pagoda]

I have a quad p6 mxm card so low wattage 1080s

and it will do 20-30x all day

[iron wave]

Bifrication?

[vagrant pagoda]

HP max a quad MXM card

you can get them for cheap sometimes

[iron wave]

Something like this?

[vagrant pagoda]

literally that

[iron wave]

That's pretty neat.

[vagrant pagoda]

i got them from china

trhey had some old quadro ks

[iron wave]

Looks like a 32x but I could be wrong.

[vagrant pagoda]

32x?

[iron wave]

Server hardware is really cool.

[iron wave]

Really hard to count the lanes in this image.

[vagrant pagoda]

its a x16 slot

[iron wave]

Ah, wicked.

[vagrant pagoda]

it has a pcie switch under the silver heatsink

hp had a blade server

[iron wave]

I wish those things were accessible.

[vagrant pagoda]

you can plug it into any x16 slot

and it works

and used pcie fabric to route the mxm cards to blades

if you gfet one, make sure it has the back plate and the front air guide

makes it easy to convert

i got them loaded with quadros

and the headsinks fit on the p6's

[iron wave]

Yeah, I don't think I will. I still think it's cool though.

[vagrant pagoda]

for the money b50

[iron wave]

I'll do SR-IOV first.

[vagrant pagoda]

b50 is killer at 400 bucks

[iron wave]

Fair.

[vagrant pagoda]

im looking to get some

[iron wave]

I have a feeling I have an IO bottleneck.

[vagrant pagoda]

if the dual b60 were 2x b60 price id have a feelt

but they are like 4x

[iron wave]

That's how it goes unfortunately. :-(

Hmmmm.

I need to fix this.

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

my server has 8 x16 and 8x8 though its 3.0

24 b60s could replace my v100s

[iron wave]

How long can DAC get?

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a 10m qsfp

[iron wave]

This would be 10G SFP+.

[vagrant pagoda]

prob the same

qsfp is just 4 sfp

[iron wave]

Probably yeah, super pedestrian these days.

[vagrant pagoda]

also why not get a cat6 adapter