🔌│tech

[cerulean arch]

if anyone ever needs to swap headban/lube hinges or whatever heat them before or go extremely slow when unscrewing or you will tear the screws idk what they were thinking when using threadlock there its just unnecessary

[umbral heron]

Another manipulation tactic by guessing machines has been added
LLM-induced psychosis is even easier to get!

[halcyon moss]

Or, it's raising up it's users. Be kind fuckface

[umbral heron]

I'd say something along the lines of "if parents let AI raise up their children then we are completely lost as a species" but then I realized there's a lof of people who most likely do that

[crimson wigeon]

Ah good AI becoming a bit unhinged again

[vagrant pagoda]

@marsh glade you just said there was examples, none of these mention audio that dont also mention hdr

there 100% is issues with hdr+high bitrate audio on lots of devices

never seen it withouth hdr

the first 5 links on the duck duck go are all 4k hdr issues

[pale sigil]

It's not a HDR download tho

I blacklisted HDR

[vagrant pagoda]

is the display hdr

[pale sigil]

No

I stand corrected

It's HDR

1080p (HEVC Main 10)

[vagrant pagoda]

if your decoding is ass, it wont have enough time to decode hdr and high bitrate audio

leading to the color issues

[pale sigil]

Still I was having this audio issue on all things

You mean the clients side?

[vagrant pagoda]

can be both sides

but its nromally the client

[pale sigil]

Because it's very rare anyone requires transcoding

Even so it was happening on a H.264 file

For me

[vagrant pagoda]

the encding dosent matter, its when it becomes bitstream after

[pale sigil]

Well it was only my Windows desktop

[vagrant pagoda]

your client cant fill the buffer to do the hdr colorspace correction

[pale sigil]

So , after months of it working fine.

I suspect maybe an update did somethingm

[vagrant pagoda]

removing highbit rate audio can help fix that

[pale sigil]

Well since mark and I fixed it I won't bother

I have 16 users who haven't reported issues haha

[vagrant pagoda]

thats becasue its a client issue

[pale sigil]

I know that's what I'm saying

I won't make any changes server side

[vagrant pagoda]

you can get it on the server if its doing recodding

[umbral heron]

Would be nice to set up jellyfin for my parents
The only watch 3 shows all the time

[pale sigil]

Anyway, I don't like hdr content so I'm most definitely going to see why it fetched hdr

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a ton of exp in streaming video XD

not plex

[pale sigil]

I need to set up my grandparents but the problem is it would be over the phone

I can't get into their house easily

[vagrant pagoda]

mostly security and production line

lots of sec cams are hdr these days, and it happens with just hdr

[tribal dirge]

generally mechanisms that run on bushings dont use wet lube

[vagrant pagoda]

its more common with audio

[tribal dirge]

I would advise against using wet lubes like 205G0, but instead use dry lubes like graphite powder.

you dont need much graphite powder, just a tiny bit

[umbral heron]

My parents have Netflix, TV, HBO, Canal+, Disney+ and Prime
They watch 3 TV shows, 2 on Netflix and one on Prime

[vagrant pagoda]

damn they ballin

[pale sigil]

My grandparents were using our Amazon, idk about netflix.

I avoided Plex because their internet was like 5-7mb/s so there wasn't a point

But now they have 150 down

[umbral heron]

They ballin and I have to manage everything

[nimble arch]

Pensions be like

[tribal dirge]

threadlocker is fine? I would rather not have screws loosen on their own and then fall off and loose them.

[vagrant pagoda]

you wont gpu encode for them XD

[pale sigil]

I've encoded 4 streams at once fine

So why would it matter

[nimble arch]

A lot of the traditional TV packages in the UK also come bundled with access to streaming services. Sky TV in the UK are particularly good for this.

[marsh glade]

win10privacy is the tool I use Callum

[tribal dirge]

as long as its not some crazy shit like red loctite its fine to use threadlocker

[pale sigil]

Similar tool then

[vagrant pagoda]

you can encode it just as low as anyother streamer to work with slow internet

[pale sigil]

Oh I misunderstood

Even with encoding watching a stream with that speed is just no

More headache than it's worth.

They still mostly record

[tribal dirge]

thank AOMedia for creating AV1

AV1 is super efficient

[marsh glade]

This works with Plex, yea

For Kodi I just pick another source

[vagrant pagoda]

you can easily get live 720p into that

2mb 265 is more then enough

[cerulean arch]

No, they used an extremely heavy one and in the environment headphones are you, you are not gonna loosen a screw over the lifetime of the headphone. Threadlocking is done in aviation basically always and even locktite blue is easier to open again without destroying the screw than whatever hifiman used

[pale sigil]

It just is not worth it

Or wasn't

[cerulean arch]

Its unethical if you have no reason for the application and actually illegal in eu btw, the repair act is crazy well defined

[tribal dirge]

right but what was the color of said loctite?

[vagrant pagoda]

threadlocker is almost never used in aviation, you cant inspect or non distructivly test threadlocker

[tribal dirge]

ohno aviation uses wires

they never use loctite, they use retaining wires to hold all bolts in place and routed in such a way that all torque vectors in the loosening direction cant propagate.

its honestly very smart

[vagrant pagoda]

only for critical items

[tribal dirge]

yeah fair, thats like the extreme

[vagrant pagoda]

non critical just gets torqued torque sealed

[tribal dirge]

yeah, and if the torque seal is cracked ya gotta toruqe it again.

[cerulean arch]

Yes its used ALL THE TIME and it is replaced EVERY TIME YOU UNSCREW SOMETHING thats threadlocked. My guy you have no clue what you are ralking about

@tribal dirge depends on what are of the airplance. ALL kinds of them are used, one of the most overused ones is locktite.

[cerulean arch]

Yes it is, its also not very complicated and locktite is used on a lot of bolts just because there is zero downside to using it except reapplication when opening anything

[wheat plume]

🤔

[nimble arch]

You could post an actual source on this

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/apple-rubberstamps-an-open-source-driver-to-allow-nvidia-gpus-to-run-on-macs-though-gaming-isnt-on-the-table-just-yet/

[ashen spindle]

its also very important that its not drivers from nvidia or amd

[nimble arch]

99% chance it gets shutdown if you try to run games etc on it

That said, if you're hooking up an NVIDIA GPU via Thunderbolt for AI, why not spend the money on a higher spec Mac Studio?

M4 Max with high amounts of memory does very well in local AI workloads.

[vagrant pagoda]

harder to scale

[ashen spindle]

because they dont run cuda

or in case of amd/intel cards you dont get vram as cheap on any mac

[vagrant pagoda]

these are china clones using secondhand sxm cards

but i bet nvidia could make a modern one

[halcyon moss]

Not even close to a 5090

In speed that is.

[tribal dirge]

well yeah, 5090 uses GDDR7, M4 max uses LPDDR5X

[ashen spindle]

also the title suggests that apple would block if amd/nvidia were to write drivers for mac, which thers no indication just that its not really worth if for these companies to write kernel drivers to support a tiny amount of egpus

[heady hazel]

New dual gear direct drive setup @empty wren

[odd sun]

I’m a fan of one player, and I always used his profile when playing VALORANT. But now I got some switches to test — Owlab Ti HE — and when I selected them in the settings, my settings changed. Is that critical? Do I need to do anything about it? Should I stick with the new values chosen by calibration, or should I manually set the settings back to what they were before? I’d really appreciate some advice.

[umbral heron]

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/ai-generated-song-takes-1-spot-on-itunes-global-charts-3353485/

[gusty kiln]

[crimson wigeon]

slopTunes

[iron wave]

Can you do ReVanced on a TV?

[iron wave]

You can't tell me Rap, Country and Pop hasn't been computer generated for the past 10 years or longer.

[vagrant pagoda]

tizentube

[iron wave]

https://github.com/reisxd/TizenTube ?

[vagrant pagoda]

there is a google tv cersion

[heady hazel]

Smarttube is what i use on my fire tv stick

[iron wave]

How on earth am I supposed to extrac the values from a std::vairant during runtime? The std::visit example on cppref doesn't compile for me because it can't find a matching function call.

[latent mural]

Any good headphone DACS for my fiio jt7?

[heady hazel]

@empty wren also using a lighter stepper says its a creality y axis one i got from a friend should work for the extruder fine

[empty wren]

ah nema 17 pancake

[heady hazel]

idk it seems to be a random creality one tbh its just a bit thinner we figured it cant hurt

[empty wren]

is it like the y one?

[heady hazel]

yep

[empty wren]

oh so still thick

but could be thicker i see

[heady hazel]

yeah it was pretty slow though not sure whats up with that on our test might need to bump up the extruder speed also have a custom fan covering that my friend printed with transparent and white petg

[iron wave]

Could just be that the amount of steps are higher than the software is expecting?

[heady hazel]

im not sure i have calibrated the e steps they are correct

[empty wren]

it can been more torquey but needs to rotate more for speed

[empty wren]

just run 120mm of filament as stated online

[heady hazel]

i guess maybe the dual gear extruder just is geared down

[empty wren]

it is geared down yeah

[heady hazel]

i guess i have to spin it faster to get the same extruder rate , but the stock extruder is pretty bad imo

[empty wren]

Before you had a direct drive

Now you have a geared drive

Pinion to large gear that is connected to filament drive gear

Which also move the idler

[heady hazel]

yeah that makes sense it was a single direct drive gear that turned the filament with a idle roller that forced it against the gear

[empty wren]

pretty rudimentary but simple

[heady hazel]

and uhh hard to tune right so it does not do this

i also replaced the heatend , nozzle and heatbreak for a bimetal one

[empty wren]

alright

[empty wren]

i think you are just to used to the former

you need a lot more

or less

[heady hazel]

and i extended the extruder cable since it was kind of tight at the end

[empty wren]

makes sense

https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/extruder_calibration.html

[heady hazel]

yeah with bowden it was really something, then i had a major clog so really i swapped out the hot end

[empty wren]

that just happens

but there are reasons

loose nozzle heatbreak

maybe a crack in the heatbreak

or an airgap

people hot tighten for a reason

like 20c above printing temperatures

[heady hazel]

the new motor is not a pancake but slimmer hoping it removes a bit of gantry weight

[empty wren]

i see

a tad slimmewr

[heady hazel]

yeah my friend used a cr10 pros guts to build his custom big core xy so he had a spare over

[empty wren]

nice of him

there is kind of a benfit of smaller extruders and pinions

more torque to push filament through the tiny orifice exit

[heady hazel]

yeah i think it has more torque , i will have to redo a lot of my settings im sure but eh its fine

he also 3d printed a fan center cover in multi filament which is neat

[empty wren]

the sad part is

you will typically see tiny feed gears

which have been machined poorly until recently

they started to make shafts with the gear on it for one

for lower tolerances too with coatings as well

still though tiny gears

[heady hazel]

i mean its a 5€ extruder im not expecting something crazy

[empty wren]

i mean right

at that price acceptable

but even today on higher end one people msotly have the same tiny gears

[heady hazel]

irrc i paid like 2.84€ with coins and coupons

[empty wren]

this thing is a lot more

but still have the tiny gears

[heady hazel]

he also got display cases and 3d printed a display insert that uses the hardware they give you, pretty neat to have multi filament

i think multi filament is pretty nice

then again the ender 3 is such a good workhorse that i dont want to upgrade just yet

[empty wren]

that is fine

next month my machine will be running

finally will have a working printer for once, that i can trust😄

[heady hazel]

im a 3d and design student so im working to model him some diorama stuff in return given that i can do that somewhat easely

[empty wren]

not a bad trade

since it works both ways

[heady hazel]

i get free labor he got food and a few beers , thats how it works most of the time

pretty impressed how good his anycubic deals with details like this print

[iron wave]

Yoooo, that's cool!

[smoky parrot]

It's against discord ToS, so maybe keep that to yourself!

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-alarm-alert-gif-13887041539004181192

[empty wren]

👀 https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-nearly-lost-his-composure-when-pressed-on-selling-chips-to-china-youre-not-talking-to-someone-who-woke-up-a-loser

[iron wave]

Any thermal camera insights? Thinking of getting a USB one.

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a InfiRay

[iron wave]

That feels a lot more hunting like than I want.

[vagrant pagoda]

they have a phone one

the make the senros in a lot of china stuff

you want to look for the actual sensor used

and the actual resolution, lots of modules have ai/upscaling on die

like my phone is a "640 x 512" sensor

but if you get the manufature its a 256x192 physical

[iron wave]

:-/

I hate all of the lies.

[vagrant pagoda]

which is still good

but i have a usb one that is iniray

for places my phone cant reach

or if i want remote monitors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de91Dbh2J-8

the p2 usb i have cvame with a micro lense

which is why i got it, for pcbs

[iron wave]

I'm more concerned about checking electrical work.

I wanna check however this gets fixed.

[tribal dirge]

I think your thermal image is right there lmao

[vagrant pagoda]

XD

[tribal dirge]

tbh, I would just check the resistance across that connection

[vagrant pagoda]

this is what i havehttps://amazon.com/dp/B0BG72B2RJ/

but thats overkill for one use

[tribal dirge]

if its abnormally high, then change the connection

or clean the contacts

and check crimps

[vagrant pagoda]

no crimps there

[tribal dirge]

just a screw to a terminal block?

[iron wave]

Yeah, it was lose when I took it down.

[tribal dirge]

yeah that'll do it

[iron wave]

It'll be useful for other work in the future too.

[tribal dirge]

oh for sure

especially useful when diagnosing small electronics

[vagrant pagoda]

you can find cats in the dark

[tribal dirge]

very easy to spot overheating components with a thermal cam

even tiny SMD resistors

[iron wave]

Alchohol does that too.

[tribal dirge]

alc is nice too but I use thermal cam with the alc to cross check

i've also used a thermal cam to track down the hot water lines in the house

and HVAC ducting

[vagrant pagoda]

best use

100$ accurate stud finder

[iron wave]

Yeah, it's a generally useful thing.

[tribal dirge]

oh trueeee

denser materials hold onto residual heat better

which will show up on the thermal cam

[iron wave]

That's $240.

[vagrant pagoda]

wood has lower r value than fiberglass insulation

[tribal dirge]

makes sense

[vagrant pagoda]

also you can find areas with no insulation

[tribal dirge]

oop, yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

you can also check low e coating on windows

you can see though visable but long ir is reflected

so any damage to the coating is blantant on ir

[tribal dirge]

oh yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

oil in a cheap pan on a glass stove

it isnt flat so the handle side is cooler

[tribal dirge]

electric stove moment.

I still use a natural gas one

[iron wave]

Gas is bad for you.

Sadly.

[tribal dirge]

butbut, chinese cooking requires high heat.

[vagrant pagoda]

nah they have induction woks

[tribal dirge]

REAL!?

[iron wave]

Yeah.

[vagrant pagoda]

for a while

[iron wave]

You just bend the coil into the correct shape.

[vagrant pagoda]

and if you get a real 220v outlet in the kitchen

you can get commerical ones for a few hundreded that putout more heat than gas

[vagrant pagoda]

but even the 1500w ones work good

[tribal dirge]

kitchen has the big 220V receptacle.

[iron wave]

Without all of that insane hot air output too.

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.webstaurantstore.com/avantco-iwc35-countertop-wok-induction-range-cooker-208-240v-3500w/177IWC35.html

[tribal dirge]

1500 might be too low, albeit heat transfer is more efficient on induction, so it might be effectively the same.

[vagrant pagoda]

like i said the 1500 work well, the 3500 out performs gas

[iron wave]

Almost every W goes into the pan.

[tribal dirge]

need to think what the closest natural gas BTU equivalent is to 1500W induction through carbon steel.

[iron wave]

Instead of losing over half to the air.

[vagrant pagoda]

1500w is 5k btu

[iron wave]

https://youtu.be/CzJKxUCKOBg

[vagrant pagoda]

indoor gas woks are like 30k

outdoor are like 50-100k

[tribal dirge]

ok the large burner on my gas stove is closer to 30k btu LMAO

[vagrant pagoda]

but they are only 10~20% heat transfer

induiction is 80

[tribal dirge]

yeah so its effectively like 5k

[iron wave]

I have a single induction burner and I love how much heat it doesn't kick off.

[vagrant pagoda]

some are even 90%

yeah sometimes i dont even turn on the vent for induction

if the cooking isnt smoky

[tribal dirge]

chinese cooking is often times very smoky lmao.

[vagrant pagoda]

im talking non wok

[iron wave]

I need to get this crap fixed. Gonna go to the dealer tomorrow for it. It's been over a month of not getting it fixed.

[tribal dirge]

hmm, found a 3500W induction unit that's round bottom from a kitchen supply store, might get one.

[vagrant pagoda]

dealer?

mt kitchen is all commerical stuff

10 times better

i do havce a glass top stove because i rarely use the burners

[iron wave]

This is for my car and GM contracted the electricians.

[vagrant pagoda]

i just use it has a surface

[tribal dirge]

webstaurantstore

[vagrant pagoda]

and use the convection oven

i wasnt talking to ducky

they have a breaker dealer it seems

[tribal dirge]

ah mb

[iron wave]

Do you hear induction too?

[vagrant pagoda]

hear?

[iron wave]

Yeah the one I have makes a super high pitched noise.

[vagrant pagoda]

i dont

[iron wave]

Do you hear CRTs?

[vagrant pagoda]

some

[iron wave]

That's probably why then.

That's my one issue with induction.

[vagrant pagoda]

not all crts are audiably fam

[iron wave]

I hear almost all of them. :-/

[vagrant pagoda]

depnds on the scan speed

[iron wave]

Like 99.9% of the time when I walk into a room with one on I instantly tell without seeing them.

[vagrant pagoda]

low resolution/ refresh means low freqency scan

[iron wave]

Yeah, I'm sure I could learn to tell them apart.

[heady hazel]

i guess it would be good to diagnose my flakey relay situation

[frozen ingot]

its worse when you're younger, you hear those frequencies less with age

but back then it would get mixed in with the horrible tiny high rpm pc fans, harddrives/cdrom noises etc

[umbral heron]

You do? Because they still annoy me af

[umbral heron]

What's a nice dashboard for homelab? Using bookmarks is getting out of hand a bit by now

[pale sigil]

This is going to be a fun system to build.... I built my cousin one recently too but it was a 5070ti

Waiting on mobo and case for the client

[frozen ingot]

I haven't had a crt screen in years so idk honestly, but am not that good with very high pitched sounds from toher things

[wheat plume]

You got ram?!?!

[pale sigil]

380 euros baby

[sinful quest]

let me guess 32gigs of ddr5?

this 9070 xt looks so huge

enjoy building man!

[pale sigil]

Yes

Again to be clear it's not my system

Or money spent

[sinful quest]

it's still fun to build systems

[pale sigil]

ye but i would not buy one in this economy, i built another recently and that ram was like 420 euros

i tried to convince them otherwise but no luck

[sinful quest]

yea, had to convince my cousin this week to not get a new pc because his was fucking around a little

he wanted to "upgrade" from a 4090 to a 5080

[pale sigil]

I am so lucky i ignored @unkempt lake and got a ram kit before the crash

[pale sigil]

Sounds like a dude on this server

forgot their name

[sinful quest]

well, I fixed his system. and told him not to buy a whole new system

[sinful quest]

nah, he isn't on this server

[pale sigil]

worst part is with my cousin is there was a pre build in costco that was actually not horendious

But he wanted to use credit so no good

[sinful quest]

[pale sigil]

i meant in general

People being crazy "upgrading" from a 4090

[sinful quest]

fair enough

don't get why people want to upgrade from an 4090

like I am sitting on my 3080 ti and I am happy as shit

and I didn't pay a penny for that card

[pale sigil]

im happy with my 3080 after i got a 9800x3d

Felt like it gained a new life

My 5600x everything was stuttery

[sinful quest]

I am so damn happy I made the jump from intel/ddr4 to AM5/ddr5 before the crash

like I got some nice 32gigs for 100 eur

[pale sigil]

i wish the re release of the 5800x3d came out earlier though

[unkempt lake]

...

IM LITERALLT THE ONE WHO MADE YOU

BUY THE RAM

[lapis plaza]

What happened to the ram is very sad

There is something shaddy happening

Apparently noone really know how these « data centers » will be used

Yet they are investing billions in it

[sinful quest]

I assume they don't want to make such a big loss with it, so they decide to waste more money into it

[lapis plaza]

I have a theory

These data center will be used as a mass surveillance thing

I dont see what else they will be used for tbh

[minor citrus]

Training AI?

[pale sigil]

Lies

[lapis plaza]

Nah

They will just use these datacenter to control everyone

Well monitor everyone with AI

It is not for chatgpt and stuff

I dont believe they inject so much money for LLM

Even for analytical AI I dont believe it either

Imagine they depleted the world production of ram and now ssd is taking the same direction

[tribal dirge]

That already exists, it's called Big Brother and Palantir

[modern sky]

they do that beacause the US goverment has spent bilions moving infrastructure for creating microchips domestically, and if a domestic AI doesnt win the race, the tech market is gonna ripple with an even bigger effect on the economy meaning they will need to wait longer for the return

Truth is a ton of technology is dependent on the stock market and stock market is nothing more than a bunch of old people gambling with inheritance money turned into promise of money, but it still fuels the projects and pays to the people that design, manage and produce the technology so any damage to that market is gonna likely cause layoffs and stagnation

[lapis plaza]

Yeah today they posted a crazy tweet on x

I was speechless reading it

They think of themselves as dystopian overlord

[lapis plaza]

Well for now they are using chips produced in taiwan no?

[modern sky]

yeah, but as I've said its about ensuring the investment will take 2 generations to pay itself not 10

its why US has so many popping up out of nowhere they are rushing to get clearance

[lapis plaza]

I dont know listen I am into conspiracy so take what I will say with a grain of salt

But they are also pushing for digital ID and digital currencies

Seem to me we are at the dawn of techno feudalism

[modern sky]

might be a hot take from me but, I am not worried that much about it

the goverments are currently unhealthy in many places that being said power also means obligations, to keep the data safe etc, and lets be honest they do not need all of that for survaylance they can do that already with stuff like the Pegasus and all the other networks of data

[lapis plaza]

Well it is a scale issue I guess. With data center and AI they can automate surveillance on the world population

[tribal dirge]

Yeah digital surveillance is not new, it's been around for decades

[modern sky]

Digital ID and signatures give more power to the goverment but, making a buisness? filing your taxes? if you didnt have digital options that would take ages, this can open floodgates to digitally signed documents being fully valid and that would make managing buisnesses WAY easier

meaning more people open small buisnesses, meaning organic work is gonna begin meaning more job openings, meaning economy is gonna bloom

at least where I'm sitting currently, digital ID brought WAY more freedom than it took

[modern sky]

Exactly, altho I would not be happy living in some countries in current age of digital data

[lapis plaza]

The way I see it: AI will create mass unemployement, hence to avoid mass unrest they push for digital ID and digital currencies for a kind of universal income. For this they need data center to monitor how people behave and spend money

[modern sky]

monitoring spending habbits is what companies have been doing for over 20 years

[tribal dirge]

Amazon much

[modern sky]

its not new information, data brokers exist advertisements are a thing

[modern sky]

[lapis plaza]

No I am talking about a currencies you could program to have something like a plan’ed economy

Let say they give you 1000 euros

You cannot save anything because after 30 days it disappear

This way they control how people consume and the production

It is like an hybrid between capitalism and communism

Directed economy

[modern sky]

before they could push something like that in a democratic countries there would be 3 public annoucements and 2 layers of protection to make sure shit like this would not become obligatory

[tribal dirge]

The central government already kind of does this by controlling the money supply.

[modern sky]

yeah but they cant put time bombs on your money tho, they can however make it easier im p sure Netherlands does that with a tax on savings

[tribal dirge]

Also by the fact that stable currencies are no longer commodity but rather fiat currencies.

[lapis plaza]

Well for now you can still save money and own stuff. In the economy of the future you rent everything, and given the mass unemployement the governement give universal income. If you dont behave well you are punished (you cannot listen to spotify or start your car or heat your home), because money can be programmed

Look they even push for wallet

Renting everything is very close to feudalism

[modern sky]

but the law enforcement already has the power to do that too they can freeze your assets any time during investigation

[lapis plaza]

Except these overlord dont go to war to protect their land

[modern sky]

also thinking the future would be unemployment benefits and mass survayalnce, thats kind of a wishful thinking

I think current moves towards digitisation are mostly to open new workplaces, not to make a society of voters, beacause a future like that sounds more like something for the 1%-ers to enjoy with a class split closer to what we would see in "In Time"

[vagrant pagoda]

forgive me tux for i have sinned

[modern sky]

where the society is split between havers and doers

[lapis plaza]

I see it more as a society of owner. (The 0.1%) and renter

[ashen spindle]

imma leave your theory aside but this isnt true, basically every single data center buildout is limited by power grids so they cant put as many gpus in as they want and yes they would absolutely use it for LLMs to train a new model or use it as inference for instances like mistral or chatgpt etc.

[lapis plaza]

Maybe but I am not sure about this

[ashen spindle]

you cant just claim that allegedly billions in buildout are just empty shells without any data to show that

they arent going to idle gpus just because someone said so and are running like headless chickens

[lapis plaza]

Oh but they will have an AI application. Just I dont think it will be the one they are claiming

[bleak merlin]

https://youtu.be/qFlyCLXdwT0

[hasty thunder]

i have to thank that fucker. Thanks to him i found a new passion in micro soldering

yes, that's right, now i gonna solder the ultimate 20 USB-C connectors cable just for @fair gull to test new Wooting keebs

and i'll intentionally solder a short in 1 of them, but never tell Tony which one it is

[spare badge]

How do I remove the case if the top is stuck…the other 3 sides are perfectly fine

It’s just this part

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnyG_a1kosg

[reef patrol]

Did you watch the video? You have to push/pull to get the clip unhooked

[spare badge]

Yea im following this but ive never run into this issue

[reef patrol]

There's a bit of tolerance allowance. Sometimes they will let go very easily, other times you have to help them along a bit.

[spare badge]

Do I just force it

…nvm there’s one screw left, my bad

[reef patrol]

That'd do it

[spare badge]

Yep

Is it fine to wash module with wet paper

[sullen bear]

Wet with isopropyl alcohol right?

[reef patrol]

Wouldn't drag paper across it, cause it'll break apart. But sure.

If you're trying to clean it, maybe buy a cheap and soft toothbrush for the project.

The IPA will evaporate by itself.

[sullen bear]

If it is about ipa and not just water

[umbral heron]

Meh
I prefer darker beers

WHY YOU PIXEL CLEANING
YOU DID IT YESTERDAY IN THE NIGHT

It hasn't been 4 hours on yet to trigger pixel cleaning

[reef patrol]

Me every other morning, when my Desktop decides it is RAM retiming time.

So I have to wait an additional 30secs for it to boot up.

[lunar elm]

tbf oleds will pixel clean when nothing is in display

[umbral heron]

But in setting I have set to do so during standby after at least 4 hours of display time
And it was like 2

[tribal dirge]

kinda weird that OLED panels on laptops dont pixel clean but desktop OLED monitors do.

like lowk I dont think my ROG Zephyrus G16 has ever done a pixel cleaning cycle LMAO

[rough osprey]

maybe they do it when you turn it off (like tvs)

[lunar elm]

they pixel clean while off i believe, hence my laptop always is low battery after a week

[tribal dirge]

strange, mine doesnt drain when hibernated

[lunar elm]

idk man I only had this battery drain problem on a laptop that was not fully shutdown

but my oled laptop just loves bein low

i seldom use the laptop now as its not demanded

[tribal dirge]

thats weird, at least my G16 is fine in that regard despite being an older 2024 model with a less efficient CPU and GPU

when its in hibernate it basically only uses the battery as like a cmos

so it drains extremely slowly

[sullen bear]

My oled monitor pixel cleans while off

[lunar elm]

i had it charged to 80 then didnt use it for like a month, i opened it and shit was on 7%

[tribal dirge]

Oh rip

That is very strange

[modest owl]

my WASD keys are starting to feel looser and not like my other keys obviously due to usage. still responsive but im afraid of taking this thing apart to relube 😭

otherwise love my 60hev2

[lapis plaza]

better to replace switch I guess

[gusty kiln]

The lekker v2 should have less wobble, been meaning to upgrade my 60he with those

[empty wren]

It does but still crunchy sound

Probably why the tikken exists

[keen steppe]

Got the wallhack SP-005 but not sure what skates to get. Does it matter if I get the dots or is it better if i get the skates that match pattern on the bottom of my G pro superlight

[tulip marlin]

i have a problem with my mouse

is it the right place to ask?

[keen steppe]

prob

[minor citrus]

There's #🌐│pc_gear

[keen steppe]

oh

i cant see that channel

[reef patrol]

That's a skill issue. When you join, you're asked what channels to join. And you can always revisit this via the Channels option at the top of the channel list.

Discord has had this for... years 😄

[keen steppe]

fairs

[marsh glade]

Skill issue on Discord's part for their shitty UIUX

[empty wren]

Interesting so over time the outer film on my DWF developed air bubbles one could say.

I thought they were just another quirk of the OLED displays and would be permanent.

However, that seems to not be the case... bit of warm carbon dioxide and a proper cloth they vanish.

[plucky tapir]

Imagine that new Core Ultra 400DX with 52-cores, my 4K encodes wouldn't take 2 days anymore.

I need

[cerulean arch]

Anyone have experience with ZMF pads vs Dekoni for Hifiman?

[distant tapir]

#🌐│pc_gear
I still think renaming the channel would be a good idea

[reef patrol]

To be fair we could name it don'tpostIEMshere, and people would still be posting about IEMs here.

[distant tapir]

I guess the lawful neutral choice would be to just make a dedicated audio channel since then surely no one would get it wrong ever again

[ashen spindle]

move tech down the channel list all the way to the end xD

[fair gull]

or a skill issue on mouse users parts

[fickle ore]

gg go next

[unkempt compass]

if i’m having issues with my keyboard where’s the best place to get advice?

[marsh glade]

#1019755933959733258 or
https://support.wooting.io

[old marlin]

For glass pads i would generally go with dots, more contact area increases the likeness of it picking up debris

[cerulean arch]

My bad i guess. What is allowed in here?

[keen steppe]

Omg its u from the lian li discord

Sup

[reef patrol]

Generally anything. But we do ask people to move over to Gear if it's one of these topics, as they can tend to go in-depth and kind of swallow the channel otherwise 🙂

[cerulean arch]

Absolutely go dots you will hate full skates on glass

[ashen spindle]

#peripherals would be good if half the people looking for talk about it would know what that word means

[fickle ore]

#stonks bro

[gusty kiln]

oh right I forgot the tikken are the even newer and better update of the lekker

[empty wren]

What about a peripherals channel?

[empty wren]

Damn you beat me to it😵‍💫

[distant tapir]

Mansen doesn't have faith people will understand it. But I don't agree personally. I think it would work

[reef patrol]

Peripherals was one of the names we discussed. But ... no one would understand 😄

[minor citrus]

People are hardly reading channel names already, asking stuff wherever

[empty wren]

What about peripherals_ex_iems

[reef patrol]

Besides. This is all Raquel territory. I just work here.

[empty wren]

Well alright

[distant tapir]

What about pc gear & audio

That sounds a bit stupid but it would at least work I assume

[empty wren]

Does but it would also pin a point

[empty wren]

Hmm🤔 that makes what if instead of a channel it would a channel for a forum and then you can have a section called iems... In the same front that the #1019755933959733258 exists

[gusty kiln]

Maybe tech should be tech_news or topic discussion

At least that is what I thought the intention of this channel was

[crisp granite]

there was a keebs channel
way upon a time

😭

not just for modding wooting boards, but other cool boards in general, mainly contact based

[reef patrol]

Just like how no one uses #🔧│keyboard_modding and just ask in the 60 or 80 channels.

[sinful quest]

What do you mean no one uses #🔧│keyboard_modding
It's sometimes even more active than general

[vapid ruin]

The second general, because modding wooting is what peeps do to their wooting usually (or buy another keyboard)

[sinful quest]

🤫 don't let them know, we need to keep it a safe space

[iron wave]

"It's not a bubble"

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-20-changes-to-github-copilot-plans-for-individuals/

[umbral heron]

Service relia

[ashen spindle]

dunno this means not a lot for bubble really, this is just them adjusting to what it costs to user other services via their accounts

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it's getting more intelligent, sure

Which is even more funnier as 4.6 answered correctly and gave correct reasoning

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/markgurman/status/2046325832885432762?s=46

Mark Gurman (@markgurman)

BREAKING: Tim Cook steps down. Ternus to CEO.

X · Apr 20, 2026, 8:31 PM

[reef patrol]

Nooo. Not Tim Apple.

[rough osprey]

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/04/tim-cook-to-become-apple-executive-chairman-john-ternus-to-become-apple-ceo/

[nimble arch]

A pretty good replacement

Apple silicon has been huge for them

Even more so now they’re getting into replacing modems and WiFi hardware

[ashen spindle]

worst kept secret of apples history lmao

[sinful quest]

you forgot to thank it

[rough osprey]

they should make wifi routers again

especially when their phones have problems with other wifi 😭

[ashen spindle]

well it took them until last year to be able to turn the intel modem division they bought into something useable so it's going to take a while to see more of that

[nimble arch]

That would be cool

[rough osprey]

and NAS

[nimble arch]

Using a new HomePod for mesh WiFi would be cool at least

[broken latch]

So peak guys

[sudden imp]

youtube is covered with clips from the movie LOL

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, tbh Ternus is more of a visionary than Tim, which I like.

His background is industrial engineering and hardware engineering.

He's also lead the hardware design of all the iPads, iPhone 12 and newer, all the AirPods, and the new Apple Silicon Macs.

Would be interesting to see how Apple will run under a visionary again, rather than a businessman.

[vapid ruin]

Best of luck to Apple

[quaint harbor]

Bread

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GWikWlAQA how to cheap ram

[umbral heron]

What is going on with Sunshine?
I have 2.5G connection from PC, 1G to TV box, it says low connection speed
I have found that lowering it on NIC helps, so I lowered to 1G duplex - nothing. 100M duplex - works flawlessly

[fair gull]

that doesnt sound right

prob best to ask in their discord if its a known issue

[umbral heron]

I mean it's a common problem apparently with NIC Windows drivers
But I'm on penguin

[steady sail]

Its your NIC Penguin drivers

[rough osprey]

penguin perfect

[umbral heron]

I'll just do a hook of nmcli connection modify 'Ethernet' 802-3-ethernet.speed 100 to Sunshine connection and done

[halcyon moss]

weird, you'd think the speedier the better

[pale sigil]

Been with them since year 1

I miss paying £15 for 3 years

[ashen spindle]

@umbral heron time to ugprade!

[bleak merlin]

https://youtu.be/p6O4LCmah98
😔

[ashen spindle]

yeah steve is ranting a bit much about something that probably didnt happen

[umbral heron]

Hacky af, but works
nohup bash -c "nmcli connection modify 'Ethernet' 802-3-ethernet.speed 100 && nmcli connection down 'Ethernet' && sleep 1 && nmcli connection up 'Ethernet' || true && sleep 10"

[gusty kiln]

I appreciate him attempting to hold billion dollar companies in check but it's kinda boy who cried wolf to me at this point

We're already basically in 1984 of the tech market/world

[ashen spindle]

its just a bit main character syndrome when there were only like 3 youtube channels that got a sample, amd just using PR agencyies isnt unusualy, and amd pr doing dumb things also isnt anything new or targeted

[nimble arch]

Let him get too big for his boots, people will turn on him.

Linus eventually shot himself in the foot enough times.

[gusty kiln]

Linus is still thriving lol

[ashen spindle]

but its also just usual amd being dumb, why sample a gaming channel like HUB and not at least include a single line in a review guide about what a example productivity benchmark is

workstation can get like 50% faster results with some things compare to 9950x3d and they let hub review it as just a gaming chip

[fair gull]

where is my AMD EPYC samples at

[ashen spindle]

its not branded as epyc

[fair gull]

ik i want EPYC samples though

im not blacklisted right

[gusty kiln]

All available wafer slurped up by AI companies

[ashen spindle]

wafers are no issue

cpus dont use the constrained packaging that gpus do

[fair gull]

time to email amd why they havent sent someone like me working for wooting an epyc cpu sample yet

[ashen spindle]

did you have a working relationship before and got samples before?

[fair gull]

no but i expect them now

9845 sample would be nice

i definitely would never sell it no

[ashen spindle]

I mean email them xD thats how you can get samples

[fair gull]

"hey amd can you send me this epyc cpu retailing for like 10grand as a sample? kthxbai"

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that was predictable
Less FPS in CPU-heavy games because of inter-CCD latency
More in GPU-heavy games, because they use less cores
Although there are some games where 270K leads, good job Intel

[gusty kiln]

Which cpu do you have now?

[steady sail]

intel comeback

[gusty kiln]

I would honestly choose an intel cpu over amd for a home server

But obviously amd for gaming

[halcyon moss]

media engine?
you do not need anytwhere near top end for a homeserver

[ashen spindle]

no its more that desktop amd is like 30w at idle

theres nothing that amd has that is good low idle power while also doing decent media engine etc.

[gusty kiln]

Yeah and the little cores for efficiency at idle

[halcyon moss]

intel n100 is great for home server

[gusty kiln]

I have a n95 of the shelf nas for my unraid server atm

It works but I would like to do some VMs at some point

4 smol cores is kinda limiting

[halcyon moss]

you dont need to dedicate cores to a vm

[ashen spindle]

yeah n100 is something that amd doesnt have, and now wcl is the newest, costs more but will be cheaper than anything amd has for the next two generations

[umbral heron]

I was looking at i3-8300T for media server, it's like 20€ now

[umbral heron]

i has 9950x3d

[pale sigil]

What

Why

Didn't you have a 9800x3d

[halcyon moss]

what stone did you crawl out under?

[pale sigil]

More like a boulder

But again

https://tenor.com/view/blub-fish-goldfish-gif-22691550

[halcyon moss]

anyway.. we've been running VMs for a very long time, and cpus are so much faster than 20 years ago

[umbral heron]

nop
I had 7950x3d and then got basically free upgrade to 9950x3d, because work paid for like half and my brother bought 7950 from me

[halcyon moss]

youve never heard him talking about ccd parking etc? :p

[pale sigil]

No

I don't read all channels 24/7

[steady sail]

me who looking at 10th gen intel's or anything newer bc i wanna build it like a NAS/Game server time to time

[pale sigil]

Best thing I've done in years

[halcyon moss]

look at low power cpus

[pale sigil]

10700k XD

[tribal dirge]

Oop

[steady sail]

i mean there is a ton of 10700/12700 out here

[gusty kiln]

Nice

[pale sigil]

Game server wise makes sense but Nas better with lower powered

I use mine for A LOT

[steady sail]

our electricity bill came out to be 19.19 pounds

[sinful quest]

Hold up the I5 11600k is like 400€ +

[steady sail]

a lil B660m D4 board with a 12400 + a cpu cooler is 250 euro

[lunar elm]

he decided “man these 8 cores are insufficient”

[umbral heron]

They kinda were, that's also why I have a lot of RAM - work

[analog sinew]

"hey sysadmin all our pcs are slow"

"I would be surprised if they werent after i took all your ram lol"

[steady sail]

everyone in the office with 8gb ram

[smoky parrot]

I tried to leave a response with "she", but I give up on android.

So it's just S now

[nimble arch]

S

I love that my work gave me a MacBook Pro instead of some awful Windows laptop.

[unkempt lake]

YOU NEED 1 MORE FPS FROM THE 3D2

SEE 1 MORE ON THE AVG

ur just coping cals

[ashen spindle]

why look at gaming and not productivity results

also it was me and not cals saying to upgrade lol

[rough osprey]

we unemployed here

[sullen bear]

Why doesn’t this have the 9850

[unkempt lake]

i was making a joke...

[unkempt lake]

Productivity still not that much of an increase but i havent seen other benches yet

Got any good productivity bench links?

[halcyon moss]

Phoronix

[unkempt lake]

I'll say tho the 270k seems like a better value for productivity

[unkempt lake]

They put theirs out yet?

[halcyon moss]

Yes

[gusty kiln]

Shame the platform cost of the 270k really holds it back

[ashen spindle]

7 zip isnt productivity thats compression lmao

[unkempt lake]

Most of gamers nexus content just isn't tech reviews anymore anyways

More of an activism channel than anything at this point

[ashen spindle]

thats just not correct

they have a seperate channela nd some big pieces make it to the main channel

[unkempt lake]

we get a tech review every once in a while but we at least get 5 activism videos for every 1 tech review

[ashen spindle]

its not hard to scroll down the recent video list to see thats just not the case

[unkempt lake]

Literally just did

The news videos are more about him saying his opinion than just news

[ashen spindle]

sure if you count hw news episodes as activism I guess

[unkempt lake]

If you watch them it's very clear that is it xD

[ashen spindle]

I dont because I never really watched them but they arent new content that they didnt make before

[unkempt lake]

Used to be more here's news that's it now it's less watch steve ramble about the news

[ashen spindle]

that doesnt change that they were not reviews before the tone changed so the review content didnt really change

[unkempt lake]

https://www.techpowerup.com/348400/no-ryzen-9950x3d2-for-techpowerup-gamers-nexus-or-computerbase

seems like techpowerup and computerbase also didnt get one

My guess is its not an important enough release

[reef patrol]

Something something six and seven meme

[heady hazel]

@empty wren first layer looking good , i just hope the hotend is properly tight with the new heatbreak i could not thread in the nozzle as much as it was previously

[empty wren]

Some nozzles are longer than others

[heady hazel]

Im not sure its the case but if its tight its tight

[empty wren]

hot tighten it too

if you have not

[heady hazel]

We did

[steady sail]

nice filian plush

[nimble arch]

Starting as early as the next major software release, Apple operating systems (iOS, iPadOS, macOS, watchOS, tvOS, and visionOS) might refuse connections to servers with outdated or non-compliant TLS configurations due to additional network security requirements.

Requirements: Servers must support TLS 1.2 or later, use ATS-compliant ciphersuites, and present valid certificates that meet ATS standards. For complete network security requirements, reference the developer documentation.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/126655

[steady sail]

w ah yes

[wheat plume]

https://frame.work/ie/en/laptop13pro?tab=overview

🤤 🤤

OMFH I need this

Touchscreen
30-120Hz VRR

😍😍

[halcyon moss]

New case?

[tulip marlin]

clicked on the link but i can't see the price how much is it?

[steady sail]

base model is 1400 euro

[tulip marlin]

OKAY

[halcyon moss]

About €2100

[tulip marlin]

it is NOT for me

[steady sail]

no storage and ram

[tulip marlin]

i have a 400€ pc i ain't have budget for a 2100€ laptop

[steady sail]

ram prices

[heady hazel]

yikes

[steady sail]

NVME prices

[tulip marlin]

yeah i ain't getting that

[halcyon moss]

Yeah I configured it to have 32gb ram and 1tb disk

I wouldn't consider anything less

[steady sail]

the pre-built

[wheat plume]

16gb ram and 512gb is fine for me on a laptop

I don't keep much stuff in my laptops anyway other than my music and some videos and my apps

[halcyon moss]

32gb is already on the small side, especially with an ipgu

[wheat plume]

If you wanna game maybe

[steady sail]

soo thats 1900 euro

[wheat plume]

Yeh 😅
But in a couple years time you can get a new main board for 600 and have basically a new more powerful laptop

[halcyon moss]

Wat

[wheat plume]

Upgrade vs buying new laptop

[steady sail]

just don't get a framework laptop xd

[wheat plume]

Can buy the new main board you want when one you like comes out in the future

New CPU basically

[halcyon moss]

You can buy an entire laptop for that money

[steady sail]

i mena you gonna put Linux onto that laptop

[wheat plume]

Yes but a worse one

[wheat plume]

Naturally

I have Fedora 44 Beta on my laptop
Runs a dream 😍💜

Shame the display has horrible ghosting ... 60Fps but feels slower because of the response time

Can't even watch gameplay on YouTube due to it...makes me motion sick

Not Linux issue
Hardware issue

Happened on Windows that came preinstalled

[rough osprey]

teto

[nimble arch]

Framework laptops are not good value for money

[indigo sonnet]

FR

[steady sail]

regardless of the you can repair it

[halcyon moss]

Uhh sure
https://tweakers.net/laptops/vergelijken/#filter:q1YqKMpMTvXNzFOyMtBRKi5ITXbLzClJLSpWsqpWMjY2MQLRZYk5SlbRSsZGRgYWSrG1tbUA

Same cpu as the entry level

[steady sail]

i mean i would take this LOL

[nimble arch]

MacBook Air M5 is a very good laptop

You could use that for 5+ years and still have resale value.

[wheat plume]

Really??
Would battery health be a concern after that long?

[steady sail]

would order this but again its 1350 euro

sorry its 1375 euro

[wheat plume]

Ft? What currency is that?

[steady sail]

Hungarian Forint

[wheat plume]

Ahh

[nimble arch]

My 5 year old MacBook Pro is at 89% battery health

[wheat plume]

Oo
That's not bad

[nimble arch]

I still get all day battery life in real world usage

[wheat plume]

Did you try to maintain it well and whatnot?

[tribal dirge]

The air M5 is really good, I'm loving mine!

[nimble arch]

No, I just cycle 100% down to roughly 10%

[steady sail]

i can feel that

[wheat plume]

100...oh oki

May sell this laptop and get a MacBook Neo....

[nimble arch]

I don't really get the whole preserve battery health thing. Just use the device and get a replacement battery. It's not like parts and labour for mainstream hardware is hard to come by.

[wheat plume]

Is it possible to replace the battery on MacBooks now???
Except neo...that shit easy to repair

[tribal dirge]

Always has been?

It's just the magic pull tabs

[wheat plume]

I thought they had it glued down like hell and serialized ?

[tribal dirge]

No?

[wheat plume]

Oh
Only on iPhones then

[tribal dirge]

It's just the pull tabs ever since the 2016 redesign MacBook pros

[tribal dirge]

iPhones have used the pull tabs for a while as well

But recently they used the electrically releasing adhesives and in 17 pro and pro max they just screw it in.

[umbral heron]

Can't wait for easily replaceable batteries in phones

[steady sail]

can't wait for the new CEO how he gonna do

[tribal dirge]

I have a feeling he's partially responsible for the more repairability design choices of the newer Apple devices, like the batteries being easier to replace in the redesigned MacBook pros and MacBook airs, the screw-in battery in MacBook Neo, the electrically releasing adhesive in iPhones, and the screw-in battery on the 17 pro.

[steady sail]

i mean he sure has his hands in it

[wheat plume]

yeh cause a couple years ago, all the hardware components on the iPhones were serialized to the phone, so even if you replaced a part with a real legit same part from another iPhone of the same model, it would refuse the part because it was not the one that came with the phone

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, now you can calibrate the part and it will stop complaining after the new part is calibrated.

[wheat plume]

so they are still serialized but we can now get around it?

[tribal dirge]

Not get around it, but calibrate the part so that it will function as intended in the new device

[steady sail]

It would work like the original

[tribal dirge]

Also provides transparency when you go to sell the phone to people buying the phone so they know what has been done to it beforehand.

[steady sail]

YEP

[tribal dirge]

Too many times people resell phones with "genuine new batteries" when turns out they're not genuine original batteries.

[steady sail]

i did get a battery replacement that is not genuine, but i would not sell this phone

[sudden imp]

the search within my settings isn’t working right on my iPhone 17 pro

I’m malding rn

[tribal dirge]

Only appears when you change a part

Otherwise it's hidden

[sudden imp]

I mean something different

I’m trying to look up safari within the search

Not showing for some reason

[tribal dirge]

Spotlight search?

[sudden imp]

This

[tribal dirge]

Yeah that's spotlight

[sudden imp]

Why is it not working when I search up the Safari app?

[tribal dirge]

Should work, works for me

[sudden imp]

I look it up and it doesn’t appear avaible despite me being able to manually find it

rip

Hopefully and update patches it

[tribal dirge]

Only thing that scares me is the cooling system. It's still single fan

[ashen spindle]

hey for a few moments framework was a decent option

and by decent I mean it was the only way to buy a 388 laptop since nothing else had them but now they are also sold out

[tribal dirge]

It's not even an Ultra X9 388H that can reach full power

So you aren't getting the full performance that it is even capable of

[ashen spindle]

oh lmao silly me thinking there was a good framework option for a bit

[tribal dirge]

Yeah the "high performance mode" only lets it boost to 60W

Not the full 80W it's capable of

[ashen spindle]

... great

[tribal dirge]

Base power is 30W btw in "performance mode"

[ashen spindle]

thats fine thats ptl default base power

[tribal dirge]

balanced is similar, 25W base power with 60W of boost

[tribal dirge]

Default is 25 for base power iirc for X9 388H

[ashen spindle]

its 25w for every sku

[tribal dirge]

Yeah but it sucks that it's limited by the single fan cooling system

If they had a dual fan cooling module they could deffo allow the 388H to boost to the full 80W

But idk why they kept it single fan, they should have gone dual fan

[umbral heron]

Ah, great, why mention it has 4P cores and 4LPE cores, 8 cores is 8 cores

[ashen spindle]

yeah every sku has 4 lpe cores iirc

[umbral heron]

Also I don't think that introducing LPCAMM2s was a good idea in a memory shortage period tbh, SO-DIMMs are way easier to get in case something fails

[wheat plume]

OK THE KEYBOARD AND DARK COLOR IS AWESOME
I am so sick of silver laptops

[ashen spindle]

the entire industry is trying to move to camm modules thats not framework pushing it really

[gusty kiln]

A laptop with the oneplus 15 coating would be nice

[ashen spindle]

including the next gen desktop sockets if it works

[tribal dirge]

Can you even get LPDDR5X 9600 in SO-DIMM!?

Like, I have yet to find any in any DIMM form factor

Best I can find is LPCAMM2 or soldered on

[umbral heron]

Stick 5600 then, won't be that much of a difference
Just that because of memory shortage it'd be better to go with more available parts if they are so focused on repairability

[ashen spindle]

not yet no

8533 is highest you can get

[ashen spindle]

if you go that far you're crippling igpu so insanely hard its a shit option

[tribal dirge]

Is Core Ultra series 3 even compatible with regular DDR5? Last I checked it's no.

[umbral heron]

Ah, it's Intel

[ashen spindle]

yes it is

but at speeds that low intel doesnt even show the igpu as arc b370 in taskmanager, so you really cant afford low ram speeds

[crisp granite]

still waiting for new macbooks with M6 Pro

😔

[wheat plume]

FRAMEWORK 13 PRO IS LINUX CERTIFIED

[crisp granite]

my M1 Pro is still an absolute beast though
holy shit
apart from the keyboard being worn out and a few minor scratches
it's like I got it yesterday

[tribal dirge]

But it's only the ones without the B390 iGPU right?

[wheat plume]

can get Ubuntu preinstalled

[nimble arch]

Soon™

MacBook Pro with M6 Pro and tandem OLED screen

I'm buying day one

[ashen spindle]

nope it turns into generic intel graphics

any of them

[tribal dirge]

Makes sense

Beefier iGPUs demand the faster unified memory

[ashen spindle]

nothing to do with unified memory or not just regular memory speeds that low are hurting both cpu and gpu performance

[tribal dirge]

Damn 7200MT is too slow for iGPU?

actually that does check

Makes sense

[ashen spindle]

since its LPDDR yes

[tribal dirge]

Even regular DDR5 7200?

[sullen bear]

I wouldnt use anything but mac for work personally

[rough osprey]

virtual memory is good enough

[tribal dirge]

I love my Macs

[umbral heron]

I checked Macs, but it's missing some tools I use
And a lot of replacements are paid

[nimble arch]

Full Apple except for a Windows 11 PC to play games on.

[sullen bear]

if its lifetime license who cares

generally paid apps are actually good on mac

[nimble arch]

Paid apps in the Apple ecosystem full stop are typically very good

Due to the long history of those customers being well paying customers

[sullen bear]

also if its for work just get it paid for

and if u work for urself, sounds like a free tax break

[nimble arch]

I have the Affinity apps which were discounted when first sold

I did also buy Final Cut and Logic with the educational discount

[ashen spindle]

Oh wait those are the prices without dram

[umbral heron]

And already sold 2 batches of each and a batch 388s

[ashen spindle]

Bruh people have more money than brain when apple laptops are better value than frameworks and framework sells out this fast

[umbral heron]

With 16G of RAM and 512GB it costs twice as same specs Air M5

[wheat plume]

This is 300 more than MacBook Air

[nimble arch]

Do not buy Framework laptops

MacBook Air with M5 absolutely clears this

[ashen spindle]

It’s funny how AMD and Intel are closing the performance and efficiency gap they had with m1/2 and framework does its best to make the value just worse again lol

[fickle ore]

What about Mahlköning E64 WS?

[wheat plume]

Hmmm
Blue is pretty

[umbral heron]

Then maybe they have shite conversion in Poland too

[ashen spindle]

Wait why are the ram speeds not showing in the list

What ram speed is FW offering

[ashen spindle]

So it’s not 8533 even and they are wrong about what the CPUs support

[wheat plume]

I like this

[umbral heron]

A bit of a goof

[ashen spindle]

so you pay for ram thats not even the best option, yayy

[umbral heron]

No, it's even better

[wheat plume]

Bring your own ram then

[crisp granite]

omfg

[wheat plume]

It's modular after all

[crisp granite]

holy
shitballs

[ashen spindle]

why would I do that? so I can overpay for the laptop and then have ram at normal price?

might as well get a better laptop option from the start then

[unkempt lake]

BUT BUT BUT RIGHT TO REPAIRRRR

[crisp granite]

Macbook appreciator ^^

[unkempt lake]

Macbooks good

[wheat plume]

If you break MacBook ...you fucked

Unless you buy apple care yearly

[unkempt lake]

if you break your framework you're fucked too in different ways

[wheat plume]

Buy the parts from their store
Easy

[umbral heron]

Right to repair should mandatory imo, but whatever

[crisp granite]

buy a four year plan + the costs to renew are actually dirt cheap

• the service level is insanely good

[ashen spindle]

I can break a macbook, go to a 3rd party repair store, pay for the repair, and its still better value than this framework deal

unless you expect to break your laptop twice while out of warranty..

[crisp granite]

a hundred and change a year to not stress out if something goes wrong
and it does

• battery replacements for free

like
it's great

[unkempt lake]

When's the last time you actually broke something that wasn't in warranty period

[wheat plume]

Idk how well their support in Ireland would be
There's no apple store here just authorized sellers

Probably need to ship the laptop to them to get repairs

[ashen spindle]

you can also just get extra years of warranty then if you are worried about that

[crisp granite]

same in parts of Canada if you're not near an apple store

that's kinda normal

[unkempt lake]

hey that's me

[wheat plume]

Framework sell the parts on the store

Doesn't matter if your laptop is out of warranty, the parts aren't limited

[umbral heron]

I mean if you get it replaced then warranty period resets, at least in EU

[crisp granite]

not near me ;-;

we could like
get beers n shit

[unkempt lake]

They just shipped me a new phone and had me send back my old one when i got the new one

[unkempt lake]

gotta fix that yes

[ashen spindle]

I'm saying in case of it breaking outside of the first two years

[unkempt lake]

0 downtime

[ashen spindle]

like it doesnt matter if framework sells the parts to repair because 99% of people would either break something during warranty time, or in a time where the laptop parts depreciated in value already anyway

[unkempt lake]

not with framework!

[crisp granite]

framework fuck you first levels of service

[unkempt lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/s/hcx8LIdUZX

[ashen spindle]

we should have better repair options and a right to do so and all, frameworks is just offering you that at a cost that makes no sense

[unkempt lake]

dealing with framework for anything warranty related seems like such a pain

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I read that
That's why I'm staying as far as possible from them

I'll get an ASUS Zenbook and it'll will be good enough

[crisp granite]

come
fix
my
laptop
😉

jk nothing is wrong with it
yet

[unkempt lake]

owo

ok

[unkempt lake]

uh i'll preventively fix it

[crisp granite]

but it only really needs to last till...well
M6 Pro and redesign

^~^

[unkempt lake]

I'll look at it and be like dont break little laptop

preventive maintenance

[crisp granite]

if only I worked like that

[unkempt lake]

i can talk with the laptop

demon

[crisp granite]

omfg me when the spot

[wheat plume]

They made a dedicated keyboard with touchpad for use on the Desktop when you have it as a living room PC

[crisp granite]

heard of the Razer turret?

that was a thing last fucking decade

[wheat plume]

Which is niche but if you wanna have a keyboard with built in touchpad for your console or whatever it's nice

[unkempt lake]

Or the corsair lapdog

Whatever it was called

[wheat plume]

Lapdog is a great name LOL

[unkempt lake]

This thing which failed

[wheat plume]

Yeh looks too massive

[crisp granite]

it's meant to sit on your lap while you sit on the couch

[unkempt lake]

I have a better solution

[wheat plume]

With it being that wide it'll be precariously balancing rather than sitting on your lap

[umbral heron]

Logitech K400/410
Built like a truck, you can use it as a blunt weapon, and costs like 25€

[unkempt lake]

Its called a controller

[unkempt lake]

I have this

[crisp granite]

"clavier et souris sans fil pour votre salon"

yes

[umbral heron]

gesundheit

[crisp granite]

it is a keyboard
and a mouse
for the living room

[unkempt lake]

Bon francais

[wheat plume]

The only word of that I understand is keyboard

[crisp granite]

shut the fuck up

[unkempt lake]

make me

[crisp granite]

done

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/asl-sign-language-hello-gif-27496136

[umbral heron]

NO - that's like the only functional Logitech thing made for me

[wheat plume]

Xxddddddd

[crisp granite]

MX Master appreciation post

[wheat plume]

I like my g305 a lot

So nah
Second thing Logitech made that's functional

[crisp granite]

MX Master 2
MX Master 3
MX Master 3S

G303 Shroud edition, while we're at it

that thing is good

[wheat plume]

Shroud edition?

[crisp granite]

@unkempt lake's favourite mouse...ever

[rough osprey]

mouse talk in tech

https://tenor.com/view/haha-emoji-snoopy-gif-25096523

[crisp granite]

calm your tits

we'll get back to talking about the macbook and iphone fold leaks in a few minutes\

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-unacceptable-earl-of-lemongrab-gif-16269937

[unkempt lake]

@crisp granite

how'd you know

[gusty kiln]

I use a mx master 3 and gpx2 at home

For work and play

[crisp granite]

omfg the best gayming (claw) and wörk mice

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[gusty kiln]

It's nice when I don't have to worry about mouse battery life every week

[crisp granite]

think I literally recommended both mice to you lol

then I went down the fingertip rabbithole accidentally getting in on the Zerømouse v34 drop and haven't looked back for gayming

[umbral heron]

Oh, it's one of those that didn't explode?

[crisp granite]

...

I'm still sad about that loss

[gusty kiln]

Does optimum still sell those? Feels like I haven't heard from him in a while