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I know I'm just saying the US isnt the world lol
Ok, I need my first coffee ☕️
like, in SF the average might me 150k, if you look at the UK or germany, you are looking more towards 50k/60k
Maybe, again I’m not in charge or making these calls. I think it’s preposterous in the long term regardless of the calculus.
Am getting 25k€ a year and I'm living here way above average 
You guys may be forgetting differences in say health care and other public safety nets
Which still costs money, just shifted
well yes, I pay for that every month? in fact we have even less money left over due to it so the post tax money is even lower
I have public healthcare coming from country, private coming from corpo, a lot of social safety nets too 
Oh, and free entry to all sports facilities in country 
Right, we have private and it buys you very little.
We don’t shift funds to the public good, so in a way the cost per worker seems a little more raw here
like if we go by the 50k a year here that would get me 32k at the end, 4.2k into insurance, so we do pay for it constantly
you can say as its not distributed its a higher cost if you end up needing something in the US, correct, but thats not going to suddenly mean the average person needs double the money
Ok
we agree on the other points, theres more reasons to keep humans around, im just saying even the cost argument doesn't really work out as well everywhere
That's quite low by UK standards and we're chronically underpaid here.
I stand by my thesis that the only reason these companies are investing so heavily into AI is to cause workforce reductions. If you believe that is to make $35/mo on ChatGPT subs, I disagree but you’re entitled to your opinion.
well yeah that is what they want, pay someone 10$ to replace the 10k$ a month person
its just not working out
Sure then we’re in violent agreement
Yeah, but factor in cost of living
Say 500g bread in UK costs what, £2?
Here it's ~45p 
cos of living in poland is like a good 40% or so lower than in the uk
its more that salaries are higher in the US in general
and software dev is above average everywhere anyway
like on one hand you get a lot, on the other the average rent in SF is like 4 grand
per month
so if you spend 50k a year on rent you better make more than that lol
also they outsource all the entry level stuff, so the average is skewed
no just entry level but yeah
good point did forget about that
take a guess why a lot of AMD software devs are in poland 
if you ship all the <50k jobs overseas of cource it will be 100+k average XD
plus all the 7 digit plus cobal devs kill the average
This guy gets it 😣
Don’t forget housing prices 📈
I’ve been thinking about washing my Apple Watch band for so long now I’m just gonna wear it into the shower for a bit 💀
The “don’t have to scrub my legs because the soapy water runs down” theory of cleanliness 😃
real
I wore it pretty loose and scrubbed it a little with my hand :)
not supposed to get soap on the watch body though
Meanwhile my F91W just shrugged off few months of weekly swimming pools, everyday showers, multiple rains and several falls on the floor 💪
If it's a cloth strap, just wash them in the washing machine.
I think mine would be fine with most of those too, it's just that I think soap will weaken the waterproofing over time, I'll just usually put it on charge when I'm in the shower instead of wearing it
haven't dropped it but it does get a good smack on a wall every once in a while, and no scratches at all so far
it's mostly cloth but part titanium, I guess I could put it in a washing bag or tie it up in a sock maybe
The store got back to me with a picture of the GPU running furmark saying "it's fine look" 
-.-
really?
what a shitty store lol
They asked me if they should send it back to whoever made it for repair :p
yup, as well know if it runs furmark it runs everything just fine..
well, another month of minecraft and geoguessr for me it seems
That whale snot collector drone is the inspiration for Europa Clipper to fly through the massive methane explosions from subsurface ocean of Jupiter's coolest moon, so that it can analyze that material for indications of complex organic molecules
No I mean because the having issues truenas is struggling to read it.
Truenas itself is odd an ssd
When you're viewing datasheets
So your HDD isn't responding. TrueNAS is 😛
Well truenas isn't responding because it's struggling to read the drive....

time to defrag? lol
usually I defrag the HDDs once per week
That seems excessive
It's using zfs so no
its fine though, those HDDs get constantly written on lmao
It's also 12 years old
makes sense, weird

LMAO
I already replaced it for media with an 8tb Nas drive
noice
Now I want to retire it entirely but I'm waiting for black Friday
Defrag a nas?
mine is literally just a computer running windows server 2019, and it stayed that way out of laziness.
it is seeing less use though since the bulk of the work that I do is on the synology rackmount in the basement
if it aint broke dont fix it they say. LEL
it do be loud though since its a 1u unit.
sometimes you can hear it going off from the 1st floor whenever you do any large operation on it.
windows nas 🤮
And this is why you RAID5 your storage servers
...
Drive failure is a minor annoyance in RAID 5
(unless you somehow fail 2+ drives at once)
imagine using raid in 2025
Yeah I know, but I'm lazy.
Okay then, if you don't want to cloud-store and you're hosting your own files in storage (regardless of platter, SSD, or NVMe), and you experience a drive failure, and you need total data retention, what are you doing that's space efficient?
Ceph on NAS is beyond the scope of most home use.
block level redundecny is dumb, and wastes iops
And sure, unraid is a fine alternative.
I’m not familiar, how does unraid solve for drive failures/redundancy?
has 1 or 2 metadata disks
its kind of like raid5/6 but uses normal filesystems on each disk
It's a bit more flexible than RAID, doesn't require identical drives. Different implementation of redundancy.
dosent splitting of blocks
Yeah, and lets you mix and match drives. Still has overhead.
If the meta drive fails you just can’t address the cluster as a single unit?
Rebuilding unraid isn't as foolproof as rebuilding raid 5 (or 6). But it's probably a valid assumption that if you know how to set up your NAS that using unraid isn't an obstacle. RAID is still valid.
Not sure how that reduces IOPS though, just sounds like a more easy to maintain/DR solution
I will read up, always curious. Been a while since I’ve checked on the state of disk array implementations
ZFS was mentioned though. And it's supposed to be good for this. I just don't know enough about that.
I guess that's ZFS-RAID
So theoretically should be rebuildable?
zfs has normal raid levels, its just block size striping not sector size
so you get higher seqentenial, worse iops
the fastest way for me to never use a site again, is asking for a login to do something, then taking me to the fucking main page after logging in.
Peak annoyance website behavior.
AMD Ryzen 5 7500X3D is now official AMD’s budget 6core CPU for gamers costs $269. Source: ComputerBase/AMD AMD has now made the Ryzen 5 7500X3D official. The new CPU targets budget gaming builds with a launch price of 269 USD (279 EUR, 245 GBP), while still bringing the same 64 MB stack of 3D V […]
great more shit options that people buy bc marketing names
7800X3D or 9800X3D or no X3D is still my hot take.
Maybe if they do a 9950X3D² maybe there's a compelling case for that.
But yeah, not sure what 7500X3D brings to the market at that price.
People age going to spend almost that much on a motherboard 😂
9950X3D2 doesn't make sense, because no game uses more than 8 cores
And there's no really other use-cases than games for vcache right now
the clock speed drops are hurting it so bad
x3d2 also doesnt exist
Yeah, but it's rumored already
Yeah the 6 v 8 core and loss of 500+ MHz in single and multi core performance is really hurting 7500X3D
no that was a spoofed entry
Spoofed one was for 9700X3D
it was both

That's why I said, "maybe if they do a ..."
Was pretty sure it didn't exist yet.
i hope linus had his nunchucks
Its my understanding that with the new Tikken switches installed there is an update needed for the 80he for it to work properly?
I thought I read something about an update
Umm... nope 
Also Tikkens will work on all Wooting HE keyboards
Is there a setting that needs adjusted?
Just plug in and go
Keyboard calibrates itself to switches automatically 
wonder what else will get made
though i feel like dbrand will be the only one doing cool 3d stuff
Companion Cube was the mandatory choice.
I’d argue GameCube is tied and would be my pick if anything
Some sicko out there will do an Ouya wrap
Source dev texture style
So cool. E-ink too, nerds after my own heart.
Strange composition. It crumbled like an old sponge. New one, is flexible though
?
e ink blinks a lot.. not great when trying to display real time data.
not like those graphs would be real time most likely
Used to - nowadays almost all e-ink displays have very precise local refreshing
Yeah but if you stare at it in the vid you see it's one of the slow ones when it's updating
I've seen that screen in a video, it blinked quite a bit
And apparently they are not planning on selling that anyway, guess third parties will have to step in
can i use my 60he with cable from diff keyboard? im in gaming cafe rn forgot my cable
should be fine
Alcohol embrittlement perhaps
what is that?
yes
ty
Rip, solvents are like that
Isopropyl is a relatively mild solvent but it can still damage plastics
Acetone and Hexane are pretty strong solvents though
clean your plastics with HMPTA
For desk cable management, one on the right and one on the left of these are good enough right
and then some of these to not let them dangle in the middle
yeah, pretty much looked at these same things before
Yea i guess its gonna be trial and error anyway, cant really tell from pictures etc
worst case, you get more
i can tell the things on the first pic arent long, only 6 hole socket fits
i have 8 hole sockets for example
They are 40cm each
I only need 2 plugs for 2 monitors and a 3 one for the other monitor
But first ima see if all 3 fit in the 6 plug one
Or should i get a separate one for my oled?
no need
Fair, i just wonder if my right side monitor cable will be long enough
Ill have to wait and see
that i dont know, i have a 6 and 8 hole sockets, more for the whole PC setup, the separate one for my router/PON devices and the worktable
I will have 1 with a surge protector for the pc alone and then a 6 hole one for the monitors, thats all i need to power
This is making me realize I should get cable management stuff
Im literally only doing it cuz im getting a whole new setup 🙃
@warm ore im still debating on just getting 3m tape and sticking them on the desk instead of drilling
They will only hold like 1 or 2 powerstrips each
Is anybody able to tell me whether there is anything wrong on my 80he mb? Keyboard stopped working a while ago and only now just bothered to crack it to have a look
Won't power on so idk what to do other than return it and I cbfd as I live in NZ
Probably best to reach out to support directly, nothing looks wrong it's possible the daughterboard connector became loose or a number of various other things support would be able to guide you through trying before it got to replacement
ty for the confirm, ill put it back together and perhaps it'll come back to life
https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-16-ryzen-ai-300-series
Hp G1a is a beast in these tests
turns out it must have been a loose daughterboard connector working now
reckon it'd be easy to replace if it happens again?
Now show me noise and thermals 
My gen 15 hp gets insanrly hot from office work
Apparently night vision goggles have always had the battery on the back of the head strap, how has VR only adopted this now?!
because its a more complex/less cost efficient way than just making a space for the battery inside the goggle casing
is my guess
because vr has not only just adopted this now?
like what are you talking about
is this a case of wow valve did it so nobody else could have done it before?
I mean, attaching battery pack on the back is pretty common when it comes to quest 3 third party headstrap.
literally the first HTC vive mod had it in the backfor counterweight, hell even the SulonQ 9 years ago when that got announced had a battery in the back?
Oo hek
Hah
Microsoft are too busy focusing on B2B and AI integration to even pay attention to Valve
Isn't the majority of Microsoft income from businesses buying computers and windows and office licenses from them?
no
azure is like 40% and office cloud is like 20%
and a steam machine isnt going to make a dent in anything
like this is both clickbait and wrong
2/3 things dont relate to windows and the third thing we dont even know the price of
and the price is the most important thing about that
yeah MS can keep being incompetent for another two decades at least and it won't really affect their bottom line much
well its more that a product that isnt competing can't take something from them?
like if I start selling a phone that wouldn't compete with wootings market either
gamers thinks they are the only ones using windows
Microsoft is pretty good at shooting themselves in the foot in the gaming market
they're making everything they do worse for the actual end users
its all about cramming that telemetry and ai crap into the system so they have a secure income of mined user data "to improve user experience"
sure but here in the case of lana discovering the steam machine, microsoft isnt relevant from the start already
internet dramabros gotta drive engagement
valve makes a linux fork that better supports windows applications/games = windows is dead
If windows dead, why do i have them in house? Make it make sense 
Gamers think windows is dead because it has telemetry
yeah but what about intel dead
https://www.servethehome.com/intel-cancels-its-mainstream-next-gen-xeon-server-processors/
fk these articles are a waste of time nowadays
Someone needs to make me AI agent that shifts through the shit
tldr 8channel DMR dead which isnt the platform but a big market
different platform for different markets
different core configurations etc.
144c was killed alrady now the entire part is
some areas want more core some want more clocks some want more/less memory per core etc.
Meh, probably time to move forwards anyway for local cpu based AI and interference? Idek
Maybe costs will come down
exist50
ignored
I think that guy had a cat that was killed by pat gelsigner or something
very unhealthy obsession by that guy about the weirdest things at intel
Yeah lots of weird comments and idk seems to change between shill and hater
Honestly hard to think about cpu upgrades atm with the upcoming local cpu based AI stuff
Think my 5800x will rock for a few more years
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03595-3
And thus humanity lives a couple decades longer...maybe
its an arms race between the biotic and the anti
This one is supposedly not triggering resistance. But who knows.
I suppose the end hope is to rotate between them between generations, so by the time the ones we use become resistant, the older ones are no longer.
Office license and entra has to be one of the best €€€ microsoft is basically afk farming with that shit
I want to Connect the 80He to a USB-Hub.
Mouse & Gamepad is on this Hub too…
Anybody have tested this? Does it work?
Thanks!
Ion see why it wouldn’t work
if the hub has its own power it should probably work fine
80HE alone is pretty close to the current draw limit of a standard usb 2.0/3.0 port
Ok, i give it a try. If it not work, i will conect it direct to the pc again
Need a other cable then
I tred it on my powered hub, it worked fine, i don't see why it shouldn't for others.
Depends on the USB controller on your Motherboard. If you have both 8k polling on m/kb it could have issues
Its recommended to have them on separate controllers on your mb
Nvidia commits to open-source driver https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVIDIA-Turing-Nova-Core-GSP
What actuation weight are the Tikken switches?
55
42-54 since you can set the actuation to anywhere
you can set the point, not the weight
o.. thanks
The weight varies at different points
yes.. and depending on where you set it it changes how much force/weight you need to get there...
its a linear spring though so it doesnt? idk
So 42 at .1mm 54 at 4mm
wait no bottoming out will weigh more
And whatever in between
aha
and in reality reserve antibiotics end up fed to cows lol
🤦♀️
You can install more VRAM, technically, if your using an APU that shares RAM with the system, then you can allocate more RAM to VRAM
no im talking about you can solder more vram chips or use higher capacity ones
or you just replace the gpu
but mostly it just doesnt matter because you dont need more than 8gb
Wonder if there's any malware that takes advantage of kernel level anticheat to get so deep into the system it can't be detected?
And it can run without anyone knowing it's there and no malware scanner can find it as it can just manipulate shit to keep hidden
not unless the anti cheat itself is compromised
why would you for for AC to infect it if you could just infect something thats on every pc
Can easily take advantage of kernel-level cheat
And it depends on scanner on how deep level it actually works
anti-cheats have been rarely compromised, but cheats... more of then than not 
Idk if any malware scanner is kernel level
the only feasible way that malware can make use of antio cheat to get deeper into the kernel.. would mean you already have it on the pc
so at that point why would they not use somehting everyone and not just some gamers have
kernel AC doesnt weaken your defense unless it in itself is compromised
like I know in your fantasy kernel level AC makes your pc super vulnerable and susceptible to malware and what not, when in reality it's more likely they get moved out of the kernel along with all the other things before anything will abuse them
The biggest problem AC is going to cause is basically the same thing as CrowdStrike - malformed or wrongly implemented function will put down operating system, but nothing really that can corrupt your data or can't be fixed by simple reinstall
Yeh :/
I haven't booted my Windows install in like 2 weeks
I hope it won't crash and burn on me
why would it
Worst you can have is computer stutter for like 10 minutes once Windows Update overloads your ssd trying to download all the updates 
I did a firmware update while on Linux
Idk how Windows reacts to suddenly being on entirely new firmware versions
you mean you did a bios update?
I think she means fwupd
or ssd firmware?
Wifi drivers
BIOS
I think something related to storage was there
Either way it'll be fine, it's firmware after all, not drivers 
well I dont think windows uses your linux wifi drivers so.. dont get why that would matter
Rarely if ever happens that firmware update breaks ABI aka communication between firmware and OS
And if, driver update fixes it 
I also learned today that the HDMI DP cable I bought only works one way
Only works if the HDMI is plugged onto the computer and the DP is plugged onto the monitor
I wanted it the other way around....
I think one of my keyboureds nearly corrupted my pc but i have a feeling it was the wire i used for it i use a second hand keybourd i got for free
Not a wooting sadly but its a trust ctx one from 7 years ago
Wut
Corrupted your computer?!
Watch
Someone installed a freaking USB Killer into the cable to destroy anything it plugs into
I mean a fault cable can cause short circuits I'd assume something like that
We dont know if it was the wire or the keybourd but ive had the keybourd for 7 years now the keys have worn down and its falling too peices and i dont have money for a new one (i cant work) the pc is not corrupted but it nearly did we managed too turn off the pc before it killed itself but idk what to do
also rare case of lana getting out lana-posted
That could be a really easy mod to do
Turn the USB killer into a cable instead of the typical USB stick it looks like...
People tend to trust cables without a second thought
Its not a usb killer ive used the cable for more than 5 months on my phone and my pc
Yeh
I'm just thinking of a new thing to look into now xd
Yuh is there any cheap keybourds you would recommend or shall i wait till another give away to see if i win?
define "killed itself"
The pc its self was heating abnormally i was in a game of seige when it happened and the keybourd i was using stop working and the older keybourd i used at an old house (office one) wouldnt work either, and the pc shut down was trying too delete all data from the pc. Before it could we where able to umplug it
the pc shut down was trying too delete all data from the pc
my guy thats not a faulty keyboard cable
Idk then gng lmao
That would be quite a keyboard
My sis wont alowe me too plug it in
that sounds more like you got a virus
more likely the keyboard stopped working cause of whatever was happening to your pc killed its connection
Wheve had a prof come out and the pc is clear
like did you see files being deleted or how did that happen exactly
We went into the files top see what was happening and the files were deleting them selfs but we managed to recover the ones we lost
either you're getting trolled, they keyboard was stuck on the delete key before it disconnected and you clicked files and thats why they got deleted
or you have a virus
Idk gng its js im too poor to buy a new keybourd so im scared too lose this one😭
I mean im gonna need a new one soon anyways its falling apart
Could js be a faulty keybourd
how exactly did the files get deleted
did you click them to see and then they got deleted or what went on there
Clicked em it was prob the the keybourd thinking abt it. It is old and broken
Charlie, the guard of old hardware.
Old hardware? This is my current project
Ok not old hardware
My old hardware
She's on top of my server which is also old unused hardware
She has the high ground it’s over for the little one below
Don't discount the power of a bowtie
Ah I remember PRISM like it was yesterday
Its a psychological trick! It disorients the cat below!
Oh man… I remember in my childhood people in the exam managed to spell the object “Prism” as “Prison” and “Prius”
What is/was wrong with it?
Recapping it
I remember proton saying they’ll fight it, but the enw service they launched has EU servers alreadt not Switzerland 🤣
Ah fair enough, is it in working order otherwise?
Dunno we’ll find out 😃
With any luck it still has my games installed from mumble years ago
Good luck!
Upgrading my PC to this build someone let me know if this looks pretty good. Not sure why people crap on the motherboard it has everything that I need. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LdwF74
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, GeForce RTX 4080, Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
I dont see the need to spend a lot of money on the motherboard for no reason
I'm crapping more on the useless aio
The board it's not the best but its servicable abd you do not need more unless you want to run a ryzen 9
I wouldn't pick a samsung 980 and 990, look up toms hardware reviews and figure out what works for your price and what has better sustanied write performance
I would also look for cheaper or 2nd hand ram tbh ram prices are not okay right now
the scorsair obsidian series looks like a very poor choice of case, but i'm guessing it is old?
750 watts weels like a bit low. You also want to make sure its atx 3.1, my non atx 3.1 psu started failing probably due to the power spikes of modern graphics cards
You don't need to pay for windows in 99.99% of cases, you can transfer licenses etc ;)
I'm not suer a sound card is going to do you much
I would not get a superlight 2, I'd look at the gpx 1, its very discounted rn and it's still really solid no reasont to pay 100 dollars more or whtever
superlight 1 is a bad choice for a mouse with what’s out currently, i wouldn’t even take it if someone paid me to due to its non dust-proof scroll wheel encoder (guaranteed to break in a year) and horrendous side button clicks
some other choices are the wlmouse beastx, hitscan hyperlight, pulsar crazylight, vv3p, dav4p, etc. (different shapes, look into each depending on your grip style)

I swear these amoebas in security team
Everyone was happy with 3-day long login token, you had to login twice during work week, it was great
Then SoC be like nOOO leT'S CHAnGe It TO 12 hOuRs
I'm defo calling them out on today's meeting, ffs, it's not the first time they do what they want despite what boss says
Why 2 ssds? Just take 1 larger one
i feel your pain
Its 6 hours at my job :)
Its moronic


ye just get a 4tb no?
im assuming when u say upgrade, the mouse, windows all that u alr have
damn 2k+ for 4080?
I like separate 512 for OS and 2/4TB for games
You can format Windows in case you have to without worry about losing your data
And keeping it separate won't hurt your loading times when Windows Update is hammering OS SSD 
Loading when updating is such an absolute niche issue... Not worth it IMHO.
Once a week if you want to load a game quickly after booting up PC 
Was annoying my brother enough to replace his SATA SSD for Windows with NVMe 
Just seems like his sata ssd wasn't a high end one
Nah, it was a piece of junk GoodRAM 
I ran windows on a sata ssd till june 2024 and literally never had issues
But it was a nice ssd
W dram
Problem with cheap and/or SATA SSDs is not really speed as much as IOPS and I/O queue
And yeah, dram helps a ton here 
If ur curious why i waited so long despite having nvmes in my system it was because i couldnt be assed reinstalling
So when i went from my 9700k to a 7800x3d i was like fine i'll finally move all my shit to an nvme
I switched back in 22 when my GoodRAM SSD died 
I'm just like
WHAT EVEN IS A GOODRAM SSD
WHAT IS GOODRAM
it sounds like the most chinesium brandever
Is a Polish brand
Making really good RAM sticks and really shitty SSDs and SD cards 
slapping their logos on RAM made by one of the few companies capable of manufacturing RAM 
They used to make their own RAM chips
Now they just buy RAM chips and make RAM sticks 
remember that guy who got banned who said corsair made the best PSUs and seasonic sucked
now that was funny
Simpul 
Get whichever is cheapest and has like A here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?gid=1973454078 
Tbh doesn't even need to be a tier
All depnds on the build
I mean
There are some really really cheap A tiers in there
So I don't really see bothering in anything else unless it's really not available in your country
Grabbed this for 80cad
Perfect for a living room pc
This is what I have, sounds great
Yeah your fan failed
Happens
It goes away after playing games 
But comes back next day
Interesting stuff be happening 
Datacenters for AI are getting finished and some of them are ready to use
But there's not enough power for them all
It'll take like 2~3 years to match power demand
At which point hardware in datacenters will be outdated 
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/data-centers-in-nvidias-hometown-sit-idle-as-grid-struggles-to-keep-up
Looks like a lot of people are selling Nvidia stock too 
Why not rma it
Its a 5 year warranty
Use it xd
is shivering 
must be cold, give it a blanket 
remember to cover this big circle on the bottom, so it'll be even warmer 
Explains why it goes away when he plays games
I'll try
Time to make it extra green with solar wind and batteries
Still needs time to build all the infrastructure 
solor and wind and batteries can't even remotely keep up with the 24/7 AI demands
The only things that can are coal, liquid natural gas, or nuclear, and coal is nasty, and LNG is unpopular, and nuclear is overly regulated.
AI is going to take an already unstable power grid and stress it to the point of risign consumer costs, decreasing consumer reliability, and no viable alternative.
Dumbest shit ever.
b... but... AI best research tool* 
-# *should absolutely be not used as a research tool as presented information may be inaccurate
We should build the data centers in Antarctica so it can melt the ice faster
well microsoft did play with the idea of submerged datacenter capsules
so theyd just be anchored to the ocean floor and be effectively submersion cooled
Would be so sad if someone were to puncture them 
not actually sure how they are constructed and if that would cause issues or not
Hmm... but they have to be connected to power and internet lines 
that yes
but it was a cool idea to use less power for cooling and just use ocean water directly
https://github.com/kavishdevar/librepods
@wheat plume
It just cracks me up how the entire world was going on and on about sustainability and protecting the planet, do your part
And now that AI is here to do ouroboros investment in, everyone's like, "yeah, nah... build more datacenters"
Root required 😮
not sure why you'd want to airpod on an android device, when there's pixel buds... but eh, I guess if you've used iPhone and switched to Android but don't want to buy new buds? Sort of a weird thing to develop.
what an absolute nonsense statement
I bought airpods and used them on my samsung phone for a few months before getting an iphone while i was traveling
why not lmao
people have developed dumber things lol
Just your average Android instruction manual
"Need fully modded OS for basic features without root, still won't have full functionality. Otherwise, need root plus extra shit."
I still prefer the airpods on android experience to using my galaxy buds with my iphone
Can’t change any settings for either
Needs root only because Android BT stack is buggy af 
lol, lmao even
the reason for needing root is kind of irrelevant
The fact that root is required is a problem.
I can't imagine running around with a rooted android phone sideloading apks I have no understanding of, so that I can run an iOS based earbud on a phone that has all sorts of things exposed
IT IS RELEVANT
With fixed BT stack root would not be required
And this bug has been reported a year ago
sure, and bad on google for that
so ppl should not create software to manage it.
it also runs on linux
But the calculus of:
- has android phone
- has apple airpods
- must choose between purchasing $229 pixel buds or rooting phone and sideloading apks
That's what's relevant.
I mean, more power to the open source dev that made linux work with airpods. Cool for him.
You can install apks without root tho 
Anyone who roots an android and sideloads multiple apks just for that is... questionable.
sure you can
but having a rooted android isn't a great idea at all
meh, not so sure about that.
but its too much of a hassle these days and just not really needed anymore
well
until sideloaded apks/installed through apk files need to be signed as well (which is only a playstore requirement atm)
Let me turn off Play Protect and install any apks I want 
I don't want corporations "worrying" about my "safety"
No, you will be safe and you will like it.
play protect is a whole nother issue
like android is slowly turning into ios at this pace
Already had issues on Waydroid with this
It decided to automatically turn on Play Protect and then scream at me notification every 5 seconds that I need to verify the device
Took me good 10 minutes to even turn it off, because guess what - it's a System notification, it can't be muted
Can anyone help me out? I’ve had my wooting just randomly stop working for whatever reason a few time. I’ve had it for less than a month…
I will be in game and then it stops working but when i open wootility it says that the keys are working. I can’t type in google chrome or anything like that but my discord bind for deafening is working
my wrong region yt premium got cancelled 
my yt account has had the weirdest best glitch for some 2 years now
its completely ad free without me paying a dime
damn
My youtube also has their weird glitch where I never see ads and any in-video sponsor spots get auto skipped
It's weird and I love it
if only that glitch could appear on every device
Solution: don't use Youtube mobile
dunno about the sponsor part but yeah zero ads, not even "regular" ad spots
talking about da TV
am using the official yt app and no ads there either
same am allergic to anything they describe as "smart"
i turn wifi off and use an appletv
its basically just techbro code for this thing logs everything you do and phones home with it
been speculating what makes my yt ad free and all I can really think of that could somewhat make sense is the account being part of some undisclosed test program internally or smth
account itself isn't really anything special aside from being a very early one
Yes the corsair case is an old case why is it a very poor choice lol?
Wdym useless aio? I dont understand what this means?
Because you don't need an aio for a 9800x3d
Use an air cooler
9800x3d is relatively cool
air coolers are more reliable
and cheaper
aio pumps is more for looks
Air coolers meaning the giant ass fan that stands ontop of the CPU?
even though i still like aio pumps
Not necessarily, but you have very nice cases today, some of which offer much better airflow even at low costs.
Have a looksie at Lancool 216 and 217 for example, excellent value choices with great stock fans and alot of space for air cooling.
Also i assumed that rhings like the obsidian and the 4080 you had already... are you actually buying those new?
yes or you can get two fans
No already have those in my current buld the only upgrades are the CPU, RAM, MOBO AND an extra SSD
Oh ok
damn people still pay money for sound cards?
But im okay with spending the extra on the AIO because it just looks nicer and I can see everything and dont have a massive ass fan
Yeah I bought that a while ago
We just call them DACs now 🙂
You don't even necessarily spend much extra, and liquid will always be better no matter what. (especially if your room gets hot in summers).
See Frozen Notte 360 which is like ~50 EUR.
yeah but depends on the pump it can last you a couple of months or a year+
After trying an AIO once and having it suddenly go dry after a year (just out of warranty), never again.
couple of months year wdym lol
No
I didnt even know that that was a thing ? Is that actually true
I'm pretty sure I looked it up before and it said that you dont need to replace any liquid
It can happen, but not very likely today, it was happening much more frequently when AIOs first appeared.
its not common but can happens yes, and some you cant really refill
Holy misinfo… modern day AIO failing is now rare. Never 0 like with any other product. But still rare.
I could tell you stories about some recent EK units in the last 5 years, but then there was a H100 that lasted 12 years so.
but its another reason why paying 4x the money means you really need to want the looks of it
But no one complained about that on the website
I dont see any other bad reviews tbh either
yeah its not common
I've just never had an air cooler fail me, other than like being covered in dust or a fan dying both of which are easily solveable problems. AIO feels like the glued shut modern tech solution that is difficult to maintain in exchange for aesthetics
it can still happen
Should be fine, don't run the pump over 80%, and you already do the best you can.
Sometimes blow the fans and rad out.
How do you control that
like i said it depends on the pump
BIOS or the mobo software, i prefer BIOS
not every pump is like that
an aircooler which is just a block of metal and a fan has a lot fewer points of failure than an AIO with pump and tubes
dude… what brand are you buying from that has consistent pump failures
Depends where you plugged the pump into, some mobos have dedicated pump headers.
It will show up on whichever you plugged it into.
the only thing that could pretty much fail on a aircooled is like… the fan
$40 replacement compared to $100-200+
actually less than $40 because you can just swap the fan
I wouldn't go to bat too hard for the AIO industry, it's not like I'd lie about this to prop up my deep investments in Noctua
It's just a more complicated solution with more parts that can break
i wasnt i was just saying it depends on the aio pump
it just always seems bad seeing someone choose 200$ AIO when a 35$ aircooler does the same
then i was getting interrogated for saying it
Not you, zabadahjakdnht
mb homie
Both serve different needs- And thermalright AIOs exist
I agree with the statement of the “why AIO when air” to a certain point, but theres requirements to meet for that to be questioned
What requirements?
Noise
TDP needs
General aesthetic of the build which is optional
To me protecting my silicon and stability are top priority, I understand others have other priorities
Im not saying “oh AIO good” or “AIO bad” really, it depends on user wants/needs
Do i rlly need this option? its my first purchase
Sorry, I dont exactly get what you mean?
can i still somehow get doouble movement setup
no
bruh]
I don't know what could be confusing about that statement. Different people have different priorities when choosing their computer hardware.
No- I just dont get what you mean by protecting your “Silicon” and “Stability”. You’d need to manually go and tweak shit for that to be fucked up.
i only use aio because i got one for free, would be using air cooler and its not hard cooling a 9800x3d 
DO I REALLY NEED THIS OPTION??? ‼️ ⚠️ 🔔 🚨
you need keycaps or you have some ?
i dont, i just ant to know if ,m buying them 2 times or not by clicking that option
Again, my AIO dried out w/out warning
you buying them once, as ISO boards doesnt have keycaps installed
OOOOOOOOK tenkiu
And, we could just chalk it up to just being unlucky? Not every product is 100% perfect
i cant even see my pump speed 
i love lian li
Sure, but I've been building computers for 25 years. Once burned twice shy.
DOes buying this bring the switches lubed 💦 ?
or do i need to do smthg, i guess everything is assembled
Ok so got it. Just say shit with little context like that, not even the brand- and just talk shit about the entire category
switches are pre-lubed
nice
Easy there, killer!
What’s the difference between JCALLY JM6 pro and JM20 max. I’m going to use iem with them
🤨
For modern cases not ideal
0rpm pump is pretty quiet if i do say so myself
he literally started by saying its his own one time experience? he never said every aio is bad or anything
New mouse
Yeah, but its like he wants to trash on AIOs in general. I just think that with those 25 years of experience you’d expect or be prepared to encounter failures.
he literally said he experienced it one time and didnt want to bother with it again
he didnt say anything about only knowing aios breaking or that its happening constantly or anything beyond that
I'm simply pointing out that AIOs have more moving parts that can fail. That's objective. I had the only one I put into service fail on me. That's also objective.
They're also less user-serviceable due to the closed nature
Could be me just being influenced by “Goku’s” statements.
You're getting to angry about this. We just talked about our experiences we never said AIO pumps are shit but for some reason you're acting like all we been doing is bad mouthing it which we aren't
just sharing experiences and its possible to happen
idk where all this hostility is coming from
That's a tough place to have conversations from
My bad or not, I really feel like the above context just framed the topic with just hate towards AIOs.
Even if it was... is that worth getting upset over?

nah best place is #🐱│pets
you right mb mb
tho #🔧│keyboard_modding could be comfy
if i order a wooting rn how much will it take aprox
check out will tell you that
Theres estimated delivery dates at checkout iirc
i think a lot of us migrated to kb modding when general became https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/195907610640121856
it is what the checkout tells you
there is no better estimate
also pro tip, if you want to make sure you really look dumb on social media, take a pfp with a vr headset https://x.com/StefanMaier/status/1990022338985791839
@ASychov With their compatibility layers Valve is tearing down all barriers. A own ARM based silicon could be the way to go…
you right
I love how there are obvious tells of a person just going to have the worst takes on a website 
I used to think anime pfp but it’s so ubiquitous now
also his bad hair cut
the VR pfp just gives the vibe of “Dont take me seriously”
and his bio 
not the soy smirk
Honestly rn, Im now turned against people who have edgy “cutey” pfps that give off the “edater” vibes
its really funny seeing the worst takes about the steam frame coming from people with VR goggles as avatars
its like nfts
Ah NFTs. I miss the sorta harmless stupidity.
NFTs was one helluva bait-train
They don't "dry out", they slowly evaporate fluid through the tubes (this is years and years of process).
What is more likely (without knowing the exact details) is that you experienced a pump failure OR the liquid wasn't present in the amount it should have been from the factory OR that it all leaked out (this last scenario is the least likely, you didn't indicate anything like that).
Pump was still running fine. I know it wasn't some normal occurance, but the description of "drying out" seems apt since where there should have been a liquid medium there was not.
It was certainly an unexpected and severe failure.
looking for some closed back headphones, i was either looking at sennheiser hd 569 or dt 770pro 80ohm, i mainly will use it for listening to music/gaming and casual movies/series
yeah liquid leaking or evaporating at a rate that its not directly obvious is definitely something that people call drying out idk why that term is an issue
or just keep if the first ones are good for you and then live without knowing if the others are better
ignorance is bliss
Seems like you got it figured out
If it works for you and you’re satisfied, yes ignorance is bliss
just charge straight on
ill go with the cheaper ones first then
Anyone here doing Advent of Code this year?
I tried last year, couldn't figure out what they wanted me to do, gave up 
Like you didn't understand the problem, or how to get the input / submit it / ?
I think it's fun but it does get rather hard. I think I heard this year that they're only doing problems every other day.
Probably option 2, but then thats a serious factory QC problem, i wonder which.
I have to spend $500 on anything that could tangentially be considered an improvement to my "wellness". Taking suggestions.
cc @misty scaffold
buy a sim racing wheel 
you can now buy a noctua that looks like any other tower cooler for twice the price of competing models?
I could probably swing it, but not a hobby I want to start down the rabbit hole of right now 🙂
Wondering if I could consider headphones pertinent to my wellness. Music is core to the human experience, after all.
Xenns top pro
You use ear more often than your hand, so having a good audio gear is better than getting a new clothes
I can probably just have them pay for the 60HEv2. Split spacebar is ergonomic, right?
Gotta ask Aligner for dat
No he'll get it shut down with a vengeance
Lets just say split spacebar means more hand typing and less floating around
Aces, thank you sir.
Where’s the lie though
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those top pro iems are going for $440 on aliexpress so youd have an extra $60 laying around
think about the savings!
He’d have to first like the tuning
I've already got IEMs covered though 
Me likey those meta turning, just more reduction on Bass and I'll be happy (though im fine with how top pro is)
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Can't wait to see 2026 meta tuning
Oh EASY, I had to replace my blender and I got a Vitamix. It has "vita" right in the name.
you can see when sites forget theres more than just the US, given the 9070 series was at msrp basically everywhere BUT the US
Top pro bass isn’t crazy, but it is rather dynamic which I like a lot
Ppl seem to not fw the treble, but I enjoy the spiciness of it
wait is that what i should store my vita in
Don't you dare, the Vita is a beautiful and endangered species
I am calling the police now
Inside vita job
noc tuah blow on that thing
Reset the clock - I had almost completely forgotten about her

reminded me that i still need to get the microsd extender so i can place it in the simcard tray from the internal m.2 connector
Didn't even know that was a thing. I should probably get mine out of the plastic bin the basement and give it a once-over.
https://www.tindie.com/products/devdavisnunez/psvsd-micro-sd-adapter-for-play-station-vita-3g/
https://www.tindie.com/products/devdavisnunez/extension-psvsd-adapter-for-play-station-vita-3g/
and then you got internal microsd and can still use the vita game slot however you want
The vita as card was so pricey
back in the day
the psp deserved more
as much as I admire the insane talent of sonys portable division engineering team fitting a heckin disc drive that small and thin, it was part of the issue I think
it was always in a bit of an awkward spot with its media distribution
umd overpriced and ip locked by sony and flash cards were still precious commodity then
the memory stick duo was overpriced af
i played through gta vice city stories by putting my psp into standby and not ever quitting it or powering off
same for me with lcs, once it was loaded and ready you didn't really want to close it 
actually blew my mind seeing essentially gta3 I had played couple years earlier requiring a relatively beefy pc on release run on a portable
yeah i was also mind blown that gta runs on a handheld
ofc only later realized all the kinds of tricks they sued to make it work
massage, 💅 , skiing,
sure the framerate left a little to be desired at times and the screen had pretty crazy ghosting issues on faster camera movements
but it was totally playable
any1 here know the difference between TMR and HE for keyboards
tony what was that 🤨
the sensing tech
thats it
what was what
is one faster than the other
youre implying ill end you the same way doakes ended
my gifs arent loading damnit
what iems have banger waifu boxart, i use hexa’s rn
im confused why the boxart matters
i never knew it contributs to quality of the audio devices
the waifu’s improves your performance (trust me)

i somehow doubt that
unless the printer ink is performance enhancing drugs and i have to scratch it off and sniff it
Leteciel Mira, Dunu Kima 2, many of the Moondrop IEM, many of Tangzu IEM.
yeah i wanted to ask about moondrop
was looking at the kadenz
It seems okay, but bass might be lacking for some
i probably wouldnt notice
i need help, Does anyone know a lot about the Wooting 60HE, please?
i just bought hexa’s as my first iem pair but didnt know anything about the sound profile
i need help pls
had them for a while so wanted to get a new pair, moondrop seems like a nice brand but i dont wanna break the bank
you'll notice it, it's a good 5db reduction on the sub bass
my left hexa kinda just dying now
thought the starfield II was pretty but someone told me their shape is meh
I guess if you want anime girl and something similar with kadenz, Dunu Kima 2 should be a nice pick
cheaper than kadenz by 2x (looking through aliexpress)
kima’s box definitely has bright artwork
the truthear x crinicle zeros have them
red and blue2
well i have the money to spend a bit more
oh yeah, almost forgot about that. Should be a nice pick too
ik crin blue’s are loved
mmm, it has substantially more bass than hexa (blue 2)
yeah ive heard the hexa’s are very outshined now
Red is closer though, but I'll recommend Kima 2 since same price as hexa
just from small research ive seen a lot of hexa > kima in terms of price to performance
im not limited to under 100 tho i can spend a couple 100
how many 100
Only Noctua could make a vague picture of a fin stack cause so much 🥵
say 2-4
so 200-400
true cause i removed my cpu cooler so my cpu is burning rn
Tony no!
would rather spend less but blessing 3 caught me eye too
doesn't sound very promising for a cooler if it makes you sweat

doesnt that sound very promising? that means it removes air and heats the room
so
it does what its supposed to
im aiming for kiwi ears astrals next week but i dont think they have any waifus on them
they dont
no its sweating
that is a good shout tho, from what i heard the astrals are like one of the best for gaming
have you tried lately?
kiwi ears aether are also very good for the price ive heard
i got an air condioner and now my room gets hot when i click a pen to loudly
oh like @reef patrol
@misty scaffold welcome back to #🔌│tech
anyways he can tell you more about the astrals
whos waterloop pump died
not even aio
and he got no spares on hand
so its even funnier
😭
If you do can drop the waifu requirement, Astral is a great choice
so ive heard 
go all in and get top pros
"Waifu requirement"? 👀
i asked for iem with cool boxart
same new meta tuning, but treble can be slightly different
Ah, huh
waifu boxart like this
I guess I just don't understand caring about boxes
"Shut up grandpa"
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tl;dr it's bad and it's not gonna get better anytime soon
well i mean surely the anime waifu improves your performance (cope)
the worrying part is that i feel like they hinted at another investigation coming up
when they said smth about exposing one of the dram manufacturers doing shady stuff (rattles list off)
AI AI AI AI AI
I watched that whole vid
just download the ram, bam!
gotta look at the bigger picture
but there is no anime grill to greet my bad financial decisions
no, but there'll be premium sound for dat ASMR that you saved up
idk I just find it kinda tacky and offputting as a marketing choice for heckin headphones
@grok is this true
true - grok
gotta make the IEM beautiful rather than the girls you hear me
how do i get cool i has wooting role
Buy a superior product and print waifus for next to nothing 🧠
if you gotta put something on the box maybe put some pics of the damn headphones on so I can see the actual product am looking to purchase 
like on the wootility app?
Access and edit your orders, connect your discord, and manage your Wooting account.
on some moondrop box art, they have the girl wearing the iem/headphone. EG: Para 2 box art.
whoops
moondrop boxart so pretty
You don't buy based on box art
ah yes
not that way
tekkusai came out with new glass pad happy
take off the headphones at once!
i found another image guys its ok
yesh
anyways these look ridiculously large
gotta contain the big planar driver somehow
im sure the noise canceling is there
nope, it's open back
Noise enhancing
just makes me think of how we used to market random product by hiring some pretty ladies to pose next to it because if there's girls in bikini in association with it it must be good
"Booth babes"
yeah
fast food commercials
It still is lmao
Don't forget cheap domain registration services
literally every sport bike show:
same thing but now they just draw some girls instead bc its cheaper and the basement dwellers prefer that to actual women anyways 
shhh youll anger them and theyll actually come out of the basement
great for comp gaming/SP titles too, has great tuning for the price point
Boss: How do we market this?
Marketing: Well, what's the target demo?
Boss: Mostly sad and lonely fellas
2005: Marketing: Booth babes!
2025: Marketing: Waifus!
If you wanna it but branded driver, Hisenior Mega 7 is a nice 2x the price alternative if you got money to burn
oh ur here now, im on hexa’s so any upgrade would be nice, 200-400$ range, less spent the better for me of course
but just get top pro since price is very close lmao
i approve
nah m8 they too busy 100%ing genshin
Damn Genshin still going?
shocker
That thing must've made an absolute truckload of truckloads of money by now
all of hoyoslop games still are
or whatever the current copypasta of it thats trending
I had an eng try to convince me that Genshin is superior as a game to Zelda BotW last year
zenless goon zero is for sure the current cash cow though...
I didn't want to outright dismiss him, but I had serious doubts
botw i can play for hours, i uninstall genshin after 20 seconds
that or uhh.... starrail
tbf as far as gacha goon slop goes I would reckon genshin is probably one of the better ones as an actual game
wanted to try that cause of the fate collab, but meh
wuwa my #1 gacha 
but i havent played in a while though... 2,8 update got me thinking i should get back on
wuwa better story
(didnt play genshin)
but genshin nerd friends i have prefer wuwa, i didnt get super into it
am just considering what actual gameplay there is etc outside from the whole waifu hoarding part
chisa is the next character and i want to get her 
but i got augusta and iuno and their sigs
wuwa u kill pokemon and then collect them to buff the waifu’s
my team compositions are so fucked beyond belief but who needs support characters when you can quickswap 3 dps characters
oh wuwa 2.8 update is this week
I have close to zero clue what the premise of these games are or what you do outside from making financially irresponsible decisions in the mtx store
u just fight bosses ig
ima try n get chisa but i lwk need phoebe for my zani team
but why play wuwa when i can just play elden ring
so they are souls-likes?
wuwa waifus arent gonna stare at themselves 
(literally just a minute of me afk in both clips)
😭
u can aura farm on giant godlike dudes
what selfrespecting selfdeprecating gooner is gonna do that
me
you had that ready way too fast my man

i had google images pulled up for this character
sure sure
am just curious what games would be closest to the gacha stuff gameplay-wise if you just ignored the anime/waifu aspect altoghether
wait nsfw
infinity nikki
not that nsfw, im a fate enjoyer
so lets say there were games that were basically 1:1 to wuwa or whatyousaid minus the waifus
would you still play it on the gameplay alone
i think the combats fine but visual effects is a big part of why i play
the attacks look amazing
especially the more recent characters
agreed, the ults and combat vfx are great
speaking of, where's the weeb overwatch/rivals copypasta
no need for those since rivals already has gooner skins
this is really cool
I have a buddy who is I guess a gooner in spirit. We play OW together because we like the game, but he plays Rivals because of the skins.
W qol
i still wanna get this for my jinshi
never got on the hero shooter bandwagon myself
@quartz root i dont even know why i got iuno
my games on rotation rn are cs apex deadlock kovaaks
Yeah it's not for everyone. Same way I imagine I can't get into extraction shooters.
she got her dawg out
and elden ring
i got her cause she’s inspired by ishtar from fgo
i was pulling for fun and i got her 😭
literally look the same
so that means i gotta get her weapon
I played the og one for a few years and basically haven't touched any pvp fpses since
wait iuno is a support 🤨
support that does more damage than some of the main dps lmao
she’s a dps that heals and also buffs like a sub dps
i have so many favorite characters 3 isnt enough for a team 
buffs like 38% or something dumb, she is one of the best
see like i didnt even know this
current team im running
i think best in slot other than shorekeeper instead of brant
yup
i need to get her on my zani team asap
she is good for zani
😭 i dont have enough pulls for her weapon
abyss has to do
@frozen ingot vfx is what keeps me coming back
https://medal.tv/games/wuthering-waves/clips/lwQmNYfI4dtycEapi?invite=cr-MSxCSGssMzM3MTkzMzA&v=24
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i dont think anyone does it better than wuwa
yeah I could see how that would be appealing if you enjoy the flashy spell attacks of jrpgs and such
fun hater 
that's pretty cool by itself but I tend to get a bit overwhelmed by the visual clutter it can end up creating with a whole squad doing it at once 
like a FFXIV boss battle or something good lord
(The "filthy" describes the nasty shade of green we're currently inflicted with, not an indictment on you)
its great clapping normal npcs with it but when youre agaisnt a boss that also has their own special vfx.. it can be a bit much yeah
also the constant dmg number popups 
though typically its just a bunch of button mashing, dodging when the yellow circle tells you to and memorizing team rotations
that can be turned off, everything has a health bar
yeah looks vaguely familiar to some attacks I could do in warframe when I played that for a brief period
warframe but anime style is duet night abyss ahem @magic minnow
I didn't play it for that long, wasn't too bad of a game but the grind was kinda jarring at least at the time
as good as wuwa combat is, I have no idea what the hell is happening and when im being attacked because of the massive flashbang/VFX effect on the screen
It’s finally here 

my nh d15 is still going strong 10 years later
Not that there's much you can kill on an air cooler
Well...the pipes could collapse or leak
sure
still a very durable longterm cooler
but companies love pushing AIOs cause they are dead or gunked up in a few years 


One more
i bought my nh-d14 for xmas 2009 XD
though both fans have been replaced under warrenty
best 90 bucks i ever spent




