🔌│tech

[wind parrot]

about to turn it on let’s pray

ive got all my ROP's

mwuahahahahahaa

[gentle osprey]

Now make sure it doesn’t melt

[digital cliff]

how much did you pay for it, out of curiosity?

[gentle osprey]

If it was MSRP, close to $3k

ASUS TUF 5090 is $2529.99

[reef patrol]

[gentle osprey]

After taxes and shipping close to $3k

[digital cliff]

they bought a scalped one though

[gentle osprey]

Wait really?

[digital cliff]

yeah I guess I'll just try to dig the listing

[gentle osprey]

Paying a scalper is an unforgivable sin on this earth

[digital cliff]

#🔌│tech message 3200£

that's 4k dollaridoos

[gentle osprey]

Welp, not my money but that’s a shame

[digital cliff]

i dunno, I hate the game and not the player

[gentle osprey]

Basically an extra $1000 for that GPU

And eBay took a cut too

[wind parrot]

eh it wont

[wind parrot]

3.2k

i mean here it is like 2.8k

retail

so not that much more

[digital cliff]

who cares about that

[wind parrot]

who cares at this point

its NVIDIA's fault

[digital cliff]

buyer has money and seller has product, everyone kinda wins here

[wind parrot]

true that, who cares if its over retail by a bit

sure its scummy but, cant change the fact that they arent in stock and it was basically a paper launch

[gentle osprey]

Unless you absolutely needed it, I’d just wait

[balmy vector]

Why are we launching paper

[gentle osprey]

But that’s just me

[wind parrot]

because paper tastes nice

[digital cliff]

I don't have a horse in the race, I can't justify car money for a gpu no matter if it was msrp or +1000$, I find it curious so many people are willing to

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-one-megatronus-orion-pax-d-16-gif-1212958912190315010

[wind parrot]

i mean yeah, my purchase was impulsive i just wanted one now, if i was smart i would have waited the 16+ weeks for them to come into stock

[gentle osprey]

Yeah basically

[wind parrot]

getting a driving license in the UK is practically impossible.

BAN HIM

"seamsecommunity"

[digital cliff]

yeah well it's just an allegory

[wind parrot]

i get that, but cant buy a car, cant pay insurance, can pay for a GPU tho.

no way im paying 4k+ a year just to insure a car

[gentle osprey]

Either way , enjoy it tho, don’t let our opinions matter lol, it’s your money not ours

[digital cliff]

I'm a sad miser in the way that if I had an extra 4k i'd probably just let it join the others in the ETFs

oh yeah that's nuts

[wind parrot]

what being 20 in the Uk does to a mf

+having ball tax too

[digital cliff]

ook is ooking again

[topaz fog]

#🌟│wooting80he message What are some cool mac games?

[nimble canopy]

factorio

[spiral island]

I would play shufflepuck quite a lot, and paper airplane 🙂

This was on a 2E I believe

[topaz fog]

i mean specifically mac games, since mansen says he can't emulate them. i'm curious

[spiral island]

They were mac games, but I guess he was talking about 3D games.

[reef patrol]

I can't emulate the OS. I -can- find the games on PC for the most part. But it just isn't the same.

[topaz fog]

i was responding to "factorio", i don't think that's a "mac" game 😆

[reef patrol]

So I either use a semi unstable emulator that plays most of the games I have. Or I keep a genuine PowerPC Mac going.

[topaz fog]

yeah i getchu

[spiral island]

Have you looked into mister? Not sure which version it could run vs what you'd be trying to run.

I guess it hasn't gotten more support, still just MacPlus https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MacPlus_MiSTer

[reef patrol]

Too old.

I basically need OS9 with some 3D support.

Lemme see if I can boot up Sheepshaver, the emulator I use for a list of games.

Well that didn't work. Apparently I reformatted at one point.

Ah here's a partial list of games I used to play all the time on Mac 😄

These are all old ones that I could run emulated. The 3D games are mostly CD era, so stuff like Civ 2, FutureCop and such. I can't figure out where I put my backu.... oh they're probably on my NAS. cba to plug that in from its shelf. Gotta redo all of my desk cables to get it plugged in then 😄

Oh oh. Settlers 2!

[chrome prawn]

Is 12.5 hours good battery life time on a full size keyboard under constant use (theortically maxing out usb 2.0 power specificaiton)?

Still very doable tbh. Hmm okay

[pale sigil]

Excuse me but piracy is banned in this server pft

[cursive summit]

piracy is banned on discord ftfy, tyvm

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-leaks-out-16gb-and-8gb-memory-configs-listed

[umbral heron]

Almost 12T

[pale sigil]

When dows the 9070xt launch again

[umbral heron]

6th

[pale sigil]

Gonna have my friend use my second account to try and get it while I also try

[cursive summit]

Tomorrow or in 2 days or something?

[pale sigil]

When's the embargo lift

[umbral heron]

Tomorrow

Exactly on the day when 5070Ti launches

[ashen spindle]

non ti you mean

[umbral heron]

Oh, right, Ti was in February

[reef patrol]

I do in fact own every single game shown there.

Some of them even as studio masters care of Apple.

Floppies and CDs aplenty. Straight from Apple HQ.

[vagrant pagoda]

"You might even get all the rops" Steve could be a professional comedian

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/minisforum-intros-ryzen-9-7945hx3d-modt-motherboard-at-599

Damn this thing is prolly insanely good for just browsing and light work, or where you really want CPU power

[pale sigil]

Well that's disappointing

There's no reference 9070xts being sold

[ashen spindle]

old news

[cursive summit]

Huh the minisforum has a full size PCIe 5x16, full lanes too I'm guessing?

[pale sigil]

Not to me

[cursive summit]

How much are we thinking a 7945HX3D is slower than a... 7800X3D?

Seems like an okay deal for a tiny tiny NUC build

Hehe HUB screwed up a lil bit, leaked a slide from tomorrow's 9070XT review video

Not bad 9070XT power consumption, a bit hungry

[ashen spindle]

its not gpu power consumption so pointless

[vagrant pagoda]

PCIE + eps is wild

[cursive summit]

It still sips power though, 443 is a bit high

But acceptable I guess

[ashen spindle]

no we literally dont know how much of that is gpu

[vagrant pagoda]

The GPU draws from the 24pin

[ashen spindle]

its neither gpu nor full system power

[vagrant pagoda]

So that isn't all the power

Eps is CPU only

[ashen spindle]

no thats only the weird asus 50 series cards

[vagrant pagoda]

The 75w slot power comes from the 24pin

So it could be up to 75w higher than that figure

Also that figure includes the cpu

Unless they are using a riser that is eps powered

[ashen spindle]

yeah its a pointless graph

[vagrant pagoda]

Because even mobos with pcie power on the board tie it to the 24pin

So you need a power isolated riser to check for slot power

And if that's what you are doing why would you call it eps, and not slot power

[gusty kiln]

Steve been hinting 7900xt perf for the 9070 throughout the whole video

[cursive summit]

It should be a bit more akin to XTX..

We'll see though, I'm very interested in reviews

[unkempt lake]

I think we're getting XT in raster

And better than xtx in rt

[cursive summit]

Well yeah it'll be a lot better in RT than any existing Radeon card

However I hope it's inbetween the XT and XTX in raster, or more so matches the XTX

[unkempt lake]

Idk xtx in raster seems a bit out there imo

[cursive summit]

We did have a bunch of benchmarks leaked that were all over the damn place

But a bunch were 4080 perf, which is XTX

[unkempt lake]

XTX beats a 4080 in raster

Xtx is like a 4080 super

[cursive summit]

4080 and 80S are like the same card in raster lol

Dashi, they are like within 3%

[unkempt lake]

Still if the 9070 it like a few % under a 4080 then it adds up

[cursive summit]

Ehhh not really?

100 FPS 1% is 1 FPS lel

Below 5% difference usually we just say they are basically identical

[unkempt lake]

Also remember that between the reference and aibs for the 7900xtx

There's a decent gap

As the card is generally power limited on the reference design

[cursive summit]

Not really?

We'll see tomorrow, I am expecting more XTX like

[unkempt lake]

3x8 pin makes a pretty big difference for an xtx

[cursive summit]

12VHPWR is 600W, 3 8pins is 450W

I did not see yet a single one that's not either of those options

Ah there are a couple 2x8pins

[unkempt lake]

Ye like the reference design that basically every reviewer uses

[cursive summit]

The difference between a 2x8pin running a boost of 2970MHz and a 142VHWPR running a boost of 3100 MHz doesn't sound very big

I'm guessing that the 2x8pin cards are also using the +100W from the PCIe, so 400W max for a 330W or so card

[ashen spindle]

75W from pcie not 100

[cursive summit]

Well 375 then

[ashen spindle]

also thats spec but cards could just draw more if not limited

[cursive summit]

Realistically are we expecting that much more FPS if you are running a 2970 or 3100MHz boost clock?

I think these cards will mainly want some undervolting, overclocking will not likely do you much

[bitter sphinx]

A retailer in my country just accidentally put out their retail pricing of a RX 9070 XT OC

920usd...

[ashen spindle]

pre launch prices dont matter they are placeholders

yes listings shortly before often still use placeholders

[cursive summit]

We still know what it should cost so msrp will exist

[crimson wigeon]

We'll see about that

[unkempt lake]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/saying-what-were-probably-all-thinking-zotac-cautions-do-not-use-third-party-cables-angled-adapters-or-other-cable-accessories/

[unkempt lake]

Oc models will sell at a premium

Thay's well known

[bitter sphinx]

almost double the price though?

[unkempt lake]

Welcome to the world of aibs

[umbral heron]

Honestly, with the things that we know about 50-series up until now, the answer should be "DO NOT BUY 50-series"

Remember times when you bought PC components, and they just... worked?

[astral haven]

fyi things were alot worse in the past, its just alot more money now

[ashen spindle]

wait for the launch day and updated prices

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[unkempt lake]

Agreed

It's ridiculous that people even have to think about this shit

[wind parrot]

my 5090 is fine so far

[unkempt lake]

good to know it can last 4 hours

[wind parrot]

its not gonna melt im using the power cable that came with my PSU

ive never trusted third party cables and this just furthers my view point

[analog sinew]

and it has already been established that the cable is not the sole issue here, its the whole electrical engineering

not using a third party cable is not a bad idea, if only for warranty purposes, but it does not fully mitigate the risk the way the card is built

[wind parrot]

i still think its a dumb idea to push all the power through one cable

[analog sinew]

yeah, for what

and if youre gonna do it at least do it properly

[wind parrot]

i guess to streamline the install process but still, just add another pcie 6+2

[analog sinew]

its not like this is the first time in human history someone neeed to put 600W through a cable surely this can be done better

[wind parrot]

my 3080 needed 3 each out of a different connectors, just add another

[analog sinew]

the connector itself is probably too small to build something good in there. maybe they became stuck on that idea of putting it sideways

whereby the connector correlates with the depth of the card?

but its a whole standard and all

[balmy vector]

It’s like trying to eat a burger on its side

[analog sinew]

one thing i never understood is why the gpu connectors dont face upward

why do they face the side panel

historical ig

[ashen spindle]

because you could be using the area above or below it

other gpus or other pcie cards or such

[reef patrol]

Just point them towards the front of the case. People just need to get longer cases.

[analog sinew]

well sapphire at least seems to agree with my general idea that 9070xt of theirs

[unkempt lake]

people just need to buy meshify 2 xls

The best case ever made

[wind parrot]

o11 dynamic over all

its simply... dynamic

[balmy vector]

Fishtank

[analog sinew]

yeah poor fish are experiencing a housibg crisis due to pc building

[reef patrol]

ARRGEEBEE Fishtank thank you very much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jZETCfB6s0

[pale sigil]

Unfortunately it seems there are no reference cards

[steady sail]

https://x.com/SAPPHIRE_Adrian/status/1896973507013304450 Holy loot

Adrian Thompson (@SAPPHIRE_Adrian) on X

Ready to ship to happy customers

X · Mar 4, 2025, 5:18 PM

[unkempt lake]

Indeed but amd made a distinction in their presentation between 9070xt and 9070xt OC

[gusty kiln]

Lol looks photoshop

[balmy vector]

jenga with gpus

[reef patrol]

inb4 it's hollow inside like a supermarket display of tins.

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/push-boxes-over-run-into-letting-out-anger-push-over-run-into-boxes-gif-15667269

[gusty kiln]

Ooo I kinda want a purple mattress

[ashen spindle]

its probably a hollow cube

[reef patrol]

Yes that is - literally what I just said 😄

[ashen spindle]

yeah I know, I'm agreeing xD

[reef patrol]

How DARE you agree.

https://tenor.com/view/objection-redonk-joe-manganiello-gif-6227426

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-17633091245400449027

[ashen spindle]

because you can see the sides so it has at least more on the two sides we dont see so likely all the way around because thats easier

[steady sail]

yeah but we already see more cards than what nvidia made

[reef patrol]

Joke's on you. It's just empty boxes.

Digital Downloads.

[ashen spindle]

they put 8 ROPs into each box

[balmy vector]

gpu digital codes

download gpu now

[gusty kiln]

Mfg each digital gpu

For that sweet sweet 1 week input lag

[balmy vector]

youll get it in t-5 business hours of lag

[sudden imp]

The boxes come with a digital code for your 9070xt

[astral haven]

you wouldnt print a graphics card

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldn't-steal-a-car-steal-stealing-car-piracy-gif-8801409996674378429

[unkempt lake]

ebay listing you are bidding on a PRINTED PAPER VERSION of the 5090 READ DESCRIPTION NO REFUNDS

[reef patrol]

Meanwhile in a sensible country: You're refunding this obvious scam, or we're calling the police

[unkempt lake]

Ebay's tos actually prohibits selling a picture of an item

[reef patrol]

I should hope so - A bunch of people tried to pull this. Or just selling packaging.

[unkempt lake]

Selling packaging you can but it must be in the title

Or else the listing is considered misleading

Example if i wanted to sell a tin of pokemon cards without the cards inside i could

[reef patrol]

Bidding starts at real GPU MSRP
Yeah that would get shut down here immediately 😄

[unkempt lake]

I'd just have to write PACKAGING ONLY or NO CONTENT INSIDE in my title

[ashen spindle]

people mostly did that to try and trick scalper bots

[unkempt lake]

Has to be in the title specifically or else the l buyer can initiate a return claiming it's misleading

I know cuz uh some people collect empty pokemon packaging xD but also some people try to be sneaky and make people think it has pokemon cards inside

Those who write it in the description ebay takes action against

Those who write it in the title they let it slide

They've also been cracking down on preorders

In the pokemon tcg space as of late pokemon preorders are being taken down whenever reported

[unkempt lake]

Keeb complete i am done buying artisans

[bright briar]

where mou mou key cap?

[unkempt lake]

it's the moumou hair

[magic minnow]

https://www.droid-life.com/2025/03/04/oneplus-clarifies-update-policy-only-provides-3-android-os-updates-counts-the-out-of-box-build/

[unkempt lake]

Boo

[lyric hatch]

That's pretty funny, but still better then Asus

[unkempt lake]

Hi hopper

[lyric hatch]

[unkempt lake]

whats up

you're the only one alive today

congratz

[lyric hatch]

I just got home from work

Now it's modded minecraft time

[unkempt lake]

minecraftttt

[analog sinew]

forrrrrrtniteeee

[unkempt lake]

HI TAK

DID YOU SEE MY POKEMONZ

everyone waking up

oh my moumou

[analog sinew]

yes

[unkempt lake]

moumou lost her frog toy today

but i rescued mr frog

mr frog was stuck under the couch

i'm a hero

[cosmic thunder]

frog is free

[stiff path]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10-0yBoK4hEok99guNj5EscGPruXyRTbT6mgc6MeZuMM/edit?gid=467445853#gid=467445853

[stiff path]

Forget where I found this, but interesting for mouse and monitor pairing

[latent mural]

https://youtu.be/NRaDCa0RuTo

I use firefox on arch linux btw 🙂

thank for advice i will try it tomorrow

[umbral heron]

Arch? I agree

[leaden kiln]

❄️

I don't think I've booted my linux disk in 7 months
last commit 🫡

[thick ermine]

New batches of 5090, 5080, and 5070ti will be dropping alongside initial release of 5070 <t:1741183200:R>

[umbral heron]

Gentlemen... Prepare fire extinguishers

[thick ermine]

I’ve already got fire extinguishers but my 2 5090s are honestly the least likely to catch fire. Got good, even amp draw on cables and cards are “undervolted”

[unkempt lake]

At least a 5090 makes sense as the performance king

The rest of the lineup is a meme

[thick ermine]

5080 is alright if you can’t afford a 5090 but still want good performance, but get a 4080S instead because it’s likely going to be found cheaper and has full PhysX support. But the 5070ti and 5070…just get a 9070XT or keep what you’ve already got.

[reef patrol]

Only if you don't mind disgusting DSLR artifacting.

[unkempt lake]

You don't have to use dlss?

Or mfg?

It's technically still faster

[unkempt lake]

I'm just happy with my 7900xtx that i fot for 1200cad instead of 1500cad 6 monhths adter the xtx's launch. Back then 4080 was 1600cad so...

I don't need an upgrade

[nimble arch]

Didn’t people initially say the same about the 40-Series?

[unkempt lake]

For the 4090 yes

As well... it is technically faster

Is it a good value? No

[nimble arch]

4090 gang

[unkempt lake]

But it is faster

[nimble arch]

I got my 4090 FE for the MSRP so I’ve been very happy with it

[thick ermine]

I sold my 14900k/4080S rig for $400 more than I spent when everything was new. 💀

[nimble arch]

Not paying a huge premium for an AIB card was a huge win IMHO

[unkempt lake]

What jind if idiot bought a 14900k from you for more than msrp

[reef patrol]

Not by much, friend. And definitely not enough to fork over scalper money 😄

[unkempt lake]

I agree lol

[thick ermine]

RGB 😂

[unkempt lake]

I'm jusr saying it's TECHNICALLY faster

Not that it's a good buy

If you're drowning in money then knock yourself out have fun no judgement there

[devout raptor]

lol im watching a video of someone shitting on the 5070 rn

[nimble arch]

I’m eyeing an actual OLED monitor this year. No more having only 120 Hz via a TV.

[thick ermine]

It previously was on an open benchtable. But knowing I was gonna sell it, I put it in a white case with a bunch of RGB so that some smooth brain would buy it…it worked.

[unkempt lake]

Aaaaaa

[nimble arch]

4K240 or 1440p360/480 is the real conundrum though

[unkempt lake]

OOF

[unkempt lake]

Ultrawide

[thick ermine]

I’ve got the new pg27ucdm (4k 240Hz 27”). It’s great. But high price tag…and even higher now that they added an extra $100USD for tariffs.

[nimble arch]

I can get the LG 1440p480 for £900 new and straight from their website store

Although the PG27UCDM is my preferred option currently

Just no stock in the UK right now

[unkempt lake]

Get the fancy new lg ultrawide since you got unlucky with aamsung @nimble arch

[thick ermine]

Lg matte OLED panels look like shit

[devout raptor]

capitalism is reaching new heights and trump is destroying the economy, what next?

[umbral heron]

Just get some popcorn at this point

[unkempt lake]

Toxoplasmosis infects us all and cats take over the world

[nimble arch]

Or I just stick with my LG C2 42” for a few more years (I will probably do this)

[nimble arch]

The inevitable heat death of the universe

[devout raptor]

cats would be great rulers

just sleep and chill

[thick ermine]

Lg is supposed to drop new WOLED monitors Q3 or Q4 with traditional RGB pixel layout (no more pyramid) and glossy panel to be same or at least similar to their TVs.

[unkempt lake]

Im going back to bed

[nimble arch]

I’ll probably wait

[unkempt lake]

Cya people

[nimble arch]

I prefer WOLED to QD-OLED

Yes, I’m one of those

[umbral heron]

IPS

[exotic granite]

Fast TN 😎

[thick ermine]

Honestly, I agree. I love my lg c1 that’s over my pg27ucdm. It’s got just under 20,000 hours since 9/2021 and has 0 burn in.

[nimble arch]

OLEDs really don’t burn in

I use light mode and don’t hide the taskbar

Zero problems

[thick ermine]

But the matte coating they use on their monitors negates OLED

[nimble arch]

Yeah, although they’ve got one glossy WOLED that ASUS sell

Which is 1440p240

[devout raptor]

if 9070xt will be less than 800 i might have to build a new pc

[thick ermine]

You gotta really leave bright static stuff on for long periods and not do any regular pixel cleaning

[nimble arch]

And was around £500 on sale over Christmas

[nimble arch]

The TVs have really good pixel cleaning stuff anyway

That I never notice but it does run overnight

[thick ermine]

Iirc it had shit software on it

[thick ermine]

My tv is rarely off, even when I’m out of the house. Only when I go on trips.

[devout raptor]

9070xt paired with a 9800x3d is really tempting but 599€ for the cpu is too much

[thick ermine]

You must not be looking at MSRP. It’s only $479 in the US. And I know for sure that the € isn’t that far off the $.

[old marlin]

My qd-oled has a 16:9 shaped box burned in

Not noticeable in games tho

[umbral heron]

$479 before taxes
599€ after taxes

[thick ermine]

Are taxes that much? I don’t pay sales taxes here so the listed price is all I know.

[devout raptor]

we have 25,5% taxes on consumer goods

[reef patrol]

And the Americans have tariffs now, huehue

[thick ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[devout raptor]

still the 7800x3d was 379€ a while back

and the price increased after 9000 series

[thick ermine]

TSMC made a $100Billion deal to produce tech chips in the US. Once that goes into play, tech will be cheapest in the US 🤷🏻‍♂️

[reef patrol]

So... a decade from now? 😄

Besides the US are having a hard enough time getting Americans to work at the kind of wages that other countries such as China can do. Because it's all heavily state funded - something the US would never do.

[umbral heron]

IF the deal goes through till the end
Annoying Orange can make it disappear in a second

[thick ermine]

Nah they’re looking to break ground this year. And having the money that TSMC has, it’ll be about 1 year to make the factory (about the same time, if not less than a Tesla factory).

[old marlin]

It takes 6 years to build a fab at the minimum

[reef patrol]

I'll believe it when I see it. 🙂

[old marlin]

[thick ermine]

Offset the already imposed chip tax that’s on the US with fair wages and chips will come out same cost, if not marginally cheaper. And bypass any reciprocal tariffs.

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[thick ermine]

He’s backing it pretty strongly. It was a major talking point during his house address today

[reef patrol]

That man flipflops harder than a freshy caught cod.

You can't trust anything that is less than a week old coming out of the White House at this point, cause you're likely to go to bed with one story, and wake up to it being changed.

[umbral heron]

I wouldn't trust anything that senile orange is talking about, he's just repeating anything the rest of Tea Party and MAGA folks tell him to say, and if it's not profitable to them the deal will be cancelled overnight.

[wild heart]

greetings, with the following, do I need lube, or anything extra?

[reef patrol]

Are you buying two keyboards?

[wild heart]

one

it's for an upcoming LAN event

[reef patrol]

So... you've definitely mixed something up, cause on one screenshot you selected an ISO 80HE and keycaps, and on another you selected an ANSI

[wild heart]

hold up then, let me alter it xD

ah, nah, that was the page without altering, as an example

[marsh glade]

glances over at Discord
sees images with spoiler tag
"Do I need lube"
Oh boy

[wild heart]

it's ISO (UK)

[wild heart]

I know, sorry, I promise it's legit, I swear 😂

[reef patrol]

You need

The keyboard (ANSI prebuilt boards come preinstalled with keycaps, for ISO you have to select and add a set)
A USB Cable (Is included with the keyboard)
Do you need lube? (Only if you're an enthusiast and want to spend hours doing that. The keyboards ARE prelubed as part of manufacturing, it's all about modding to ones liking)

[thick ermine]

I like to rawdog my keyboard 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

No lube needed

[wild heart]

would be enough? no extra or waste of keycaps?

[reef patrol]

That'll get you a working keyboard, once you put the keycaps on it of course. 🙂

Could consider a wristrest, if you spend a lot of hours at the desk.

[wild heart]

the, very runny water thing, would it be better to put that in, or the preone good enough? (see what I did there? xD

[thick ermine]

Wrist rest=good

[fair gull]

well lube isnt always very runny water. either way its preference

[fair gull]

it wont change the keyboards performance. just sound and feel

[wild heart]

is there a cheeky discount code? xD (pushing it here)

[wild heart]

I just want a better keyboard than the one I have, been waiting on Wooting for awhile

[digital cliff]

there's DISCORD DISCOUNT

[wild heart]

hence not going for the Zinc, heard that sounds worse]

[reef patrol]

Metal cases definitely sound MORE. Whether that is to your liking or not is definitely a personal preference thing.

[wild heart]

thank you, I don't seen to be able to use it for my account

[wild heart]

weet, thank you

I mean, under £200, it's all good, best keyboard going too

[thick ermine]

I got the zinc because that’s all that was in stock. It really doesn’t sound bad. Just different than plastic

[thick ermine]

It’s not an actual discount.

[fair gull]

in general sounds bad and sounds good are so subjective that its not a good metric

[thick ermine]

The “trust me bro” metric

[wild heart]

ordering them now

ekkk, it went up £30 after putting an address in xD

[umbral heron]

That intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slABqBmoQ9A

[hasty surge]

Hi, wanted to know if you guys also help when it comes to pc builds, since you guys know tech

I wanted a pc which can push about 500 fps on an 2k oled 480hz monitor, valorant cs, don’t care about the aesthetics and rgb and stuff just wanted a build which isn’t too expensive and can play 4k games(atleast a few) basically an all performance build which easily runs valo on 500 fps and can also run every other games, even the ones with high demands(not at a crazy fps but should be playable atleast so ye)

[fathom venture]

i mean u can run valo on a pc which uses potato as the cpu with wires coming out of it so any low to mid range pc should do

true

[hasty surge]

1.5k maybe or is it too low

Can I get a 5080 with it?

[fathom venture]

hell naw

[umbral heron]

For high fps in Valo and CS you need a good CPU, so I'd suggest either 7800X3D or 9800X3D
For GPU, eh whatever for 4K, XTX/4080/5080/4090/5090

[fathom venture]

TvT

[cursive summit]

Tbf 9800X3D and a 9070XT would likely pull 500 FPS

[fathom venture]

was abt to say

get a 9800x3d

[cursive summit]

I saw a slide this morning from an early review of 9070XT, it pulled XTX numbers in that Marvel game, whatever it's called

[fathom venture]

valo cs fortnite are cpu demanding games]

marvel rivals

[cursive summit]

That's a fine budget

No you would not? 1.7-1.8 is doable

[fathom venture]

idts?

could go entry level mobos

[cursive summit]

If it's USD they can do it

[fathom venture]

and a trash cabinet

since he doesnt care abt aesthetics

get a good cpu a decent gpu with atleast 12 gb vram and a good psu

1.5 is good enough for valo lol

[hasty surge]

Bro ngl I don’t think u should be speaking? You’re getting a 5090 for valo?????? Are you insane lmao?

[fathom venture]

huh?

i have the budget for the 5090 maybe not 4.2k but yes

[hasty surge]

He did

Just type 5090 and you will see

On the search bar

[hasty surge]

Insane for valo

[fathom venture]

i dont only play valo

and im into ai modelling

different purpoes and bugdets bro

i did talk abt getting a new build with 5090 tbf

[hasty surge]

Isn’t 5090 quite shit

[fathom venture]

TvT

[nimble arch]

If you want to reliably get those high frame rates, a 4090/5090 is an easy choice

[hasty surge]

Prices are too insane tho

[fathom venture]

thats too much

im waiting for the prices to be lowered

tbf

[cursive summit]

While you people are talking weird shit, here's a build @hasty surge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x7xFYd

[fathom venture]

wait

[cursive summit]

This will likely push 500 FPS no problems

[fathom venture]

im talking abt when it comes closer to the msrp

[cursive summit]

Yeah around 700FPS lol https://youtu.be/_I_RQTR5gWg

[fathom venture]

TvT

its around 2k tho

imo its not that bad considering how good it is

unless u already have a 4090

[fathom venture]

this is pretty good actually

would go for x870e mobo tho

tomahawk

or carbon

[cursive summit]

Reason for that being?

I can tell you that much, they don't need anything more than a B series board

[fathom venture]

i mean i need the usb and stuff

true

[umbral heron]

No
nonono
B650 or if you really need USB4 and PCIe5 then B650E
Never X870

[cursive summit]

There's x870s for about 200, point is they don't need an X-board

B series cuts it for everyone else

[fathom venture]

true

i was talking abt myself tho

but yes x870 is on the higher end

also bro 8200 looks like a waste tho for 9800x3d

it will take 6400 max

could get 32 gb g skill trident 6000 cl30 neo z5

not sure abt the pricing tho

[hasty surge]

Not sure what any of this mean

[fathom venture]

are u building it on ur own

[hasty surge]

Ye

[cursive summit]

9800X3D to my knowledge supports 8200 so it's fine

[fathom venture]

huhhhh

[cursive summit]

And the pricing isn't that much different, you'd be saving like 30 bucks with other sticks

[fathom venture]

nah idts tbh

[umbral heron]

Don't go above 6400, it's really unstable above that

[cursive summit]

Well here's the thing, you can just not set it to 8400 and set it to anything else lower

[fathom venture]

thats what im saying

[umbral heron]

Or just buy cheaper 6000C30

[cursive summit]

The fact it can do 8400 is pretty good though

[cursive summit]

You are not saving much there

[fathom venture]

6000 is the sweetspot

[umbral heron]

What's the point of buying better RAM if you're not going to use it
And yo can then spend more on better cooling or PSU or whatever

[fathom venture]

same price tho

g skill trident

[umbral heron]

Eh, whatever then

[fathom venture]

but ye i would recommend getting g skill 32 6000

is this ur first build?

[hasty surge]

Ye

[cursive summit]

Sure, 48GB DDR5 6000 CL-36 is a bit more expensive but you can more RAM so I'll bite

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfwrwY

[fathom venture]

tbf all the best finding the 9070xt tho

[hasty surge]

I was planning to go for the 5080

[cursive summit]

Another one that thinks it'll have issues lol

[fathom venture]

TvT

[cursive summit]

Yeah good luck with that

If you want to waste money, go for it

Your life, your terrible choices

[fathom venture]

tbf

dollar to performance might be bad

but its better than the 9070xt no?

[cursive summit]

Brudda said 1500 and says "I'm getting a 5080"

[fathom venture]

exactly lol

[cursive summit]

You are either getting a 5080 or you are spending 1500, there's no combining those

[fathom venture]

yea

isnt the 5080 1500 itself?

msrp that too

[cursive summit]

Very nice, starting at 1744

[hasty surge]

What about the ai thing @fathom venture Was talking about?

[fathom venture]

aw hell naw bro

u dont need that lol

and u need to switch that off duringvalo

[cursive summit]

You don't need an Nvidia card do run AI models

[fathom venture]

latency diff

[hasty surge]

What’s that?

[umbral heron]

Can local llm hug me to sleep?

[hasty surge]

Nvidia is ChatGPT?

[fathom venture]

bro,,,,,

[umbral heron]

Then I don't want it

[cursive summit]

@hasty surge, for your own benefit, ignore whatever they say at this point it's just confusing you

[hasty surge]

But I don’t understand what’s Cemal saying tho

[cursive summit]

What location do you even reside at

U.S?

[hasty surge]

What’s cl30 and what’s 8400

[fathom venture]

dont worry abt it

[cursive summit]

Yeah you don't need to worry about it

You american?

[hasty surge]

No I reside in India

[cursive summit]

Huh

[fathom venture]

oh good luck

[cursive summit]

Brudda said 1500 rupees?

[hasty surge]

Why?

[cursive summit]

Isn't that shit like a couple of cents

[hasty surge]

No

1.5 lakhs

[fathom venture]

around 1.8 to 2k then

[cursive summit]

Yeah I have no clue what shit costs in India

In USD 1.8 can make you a good rig, IN U.S

Not in a backwater

Asia always had fucked prices

[fathom venture]

true

[hasty surge]

Rig?

It’s 1700 dollars tho

[cursive summit]

What is 1700 dollars

[hasty surge]

Not 1700 rupees

Which is 20 dollars

[cursive summit]

Brudda is trolling I swear to god

[hasty surge]

No I’m not

[fathom venture]

hmm

u sound like a child ngl

idk

1.7 is a decnt budget tho

[hasty surge]

I’m not

[cursive summit]

What their budget is in USD doesn't even matter when they don't live in U.S lol

[hasty surge]

I’m 17

[fathom venture]

so youre a child

[cursive summit]

Indian prices are fucked, so whatever their budget in USD is likely like, 50% lower in value than it would be in U.S

[fathom venture]

bro TvT

yea

bare expensive

[hasty surge]

What if I up my budget to 2.5k???

Is that good

Dollars

USD

[fathom venture]

dude stop stressing over vlo

[cursive summit]

From what I'm seeing in amazon.in, 5080 in your country costs like 2133 USD at cheapest

[fathom venture]

just get a prebuilt worth 1.5 and youre good

and why do u need oled 2k????

seems very unrealistic

[cursive summit]

The same reason everyone else wants an OLED display, it looks good

[fathom venture]

please dont sayme its including everything

yea ik

[cursive summit]

Didn't they say it was 480Hz

[fathom venture]

but idt oled 480 2k is worthit for this build

[cursive summit]

As far as I understood they already have the OLED so questioning it is outside the scope of this discussion

[fathom venture]

itll end his pc asw

[hasty surge]

No I still didn’t get the oled monitor

But I know it’s good

[fathom venture]

crazy

"i need good fps on valo tho"

bro thinks hes tenz

[cursive summit]

Miniled

[fathom venture]

idt u will notice any difference between 240 and 480

its like a difference of 1.1 ms or something

nah unless youre a pro its barely noticeable on valo

[hasty surge]

Should I get a 4k 240hz then?

[fathom venture]

bro

[cursive summit]

You should get a PC first

[fathom venture]

no.

[analog sinew]

meow

[cursive summit]

When you get a PC that runs, you can then start getting a display that actually works for that rig

[fathom venture]

your pc wont even utilize it

get a prebuilt

idk if they have 9800x3d prebuilts tho

with the requirements u need

[analog sinew]

probably

[hasty surge]

Should I share the build I wanted????

[fathom venture]

sure

[cursive summit]

No, you should keep it cause you asked

Don't ask, just post

[fathom venture]

nah let him its ok

[hasty surge]

I wanted 9800x3d a gpu(help me here), 64 gb ddr5 ram, 2 tb gen 5 storage, godlike x870e motherboard(saw your post), artic aio, montech case, superflower titanium psu(saw that on the psu tier list by ztt on yt)

[fathom venture]

rip brother

[cursive summit]

Maybe a Mars trip too?

[analog sinew]

i mean if you buy expensivest everything just buy a 5090 🤷‍♂️

[halcyon moss]

You're getting top-tier component for a reason? Or do you Just have a money sized hole in your hand

[hasty surge]

What’s top tier here?

[cursive summit]

You don't need an X870E, you don't need an AIO, you don't need a montech case which are usually ass, and you DEFINITELY don't need a titanium PSU

The only things reasonable here are the CPU, RAM and SSD (Which you don't even need to be PCIe 5)

[hasty surge]

Montech is cheap tho

[cursive summit]

And likely trash

[hasty surge]

What’s your advice here?

Which case should I go for

[analog sinew]

the 1300$ mobo lol

[hasty surge]

I don’t care about aesthetics

Cemal said that’s very good though?

[analog sinew]

even if you want x870e you can get that for 400

[analog sinew]

a bugatti is good too

[cursive summit]

I'll check if pcpartpicker works with indian shops

[analog sinew]

it better be good for that price

[cursive summit]

No, no it does not lol

[analog sinew]

vex

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-you-like-kissing-boys-don't-you-cat-lowpoly-3d-gif-9960745507421464646

brick O:

[cursive summit]

BRICK

🧱

[hasty surge]

So what’s the difference between other motherboards and this?

[cursive summit]

That one is affordable and other is not

I'll just take a look if there's any prebuilts in India cause this shit is ridiculous

[fathom venture]

when did i say that to u lol

its too expensive

oh better idea rent a pc with the specs u need

assuming u wont game forever

[hasty surge]

But that’s not mine though?

The pc….

[fathom venture]

tf r u talking abt

just play your game

[cursive summit]

Just buy this https://www.amazon.in/ZOTAC-I7-13700-Rtx4070-Sodimm-Sataiii/dp/B0CG1YSS1N?

[hasty surge]

I mean I can’t do anything personal on that

[fathom venture]

yes u can

??????

[cursive summit]

Yeah that's a terrible idea

[fathom venture]

nah honestly fo rvalo i would go for 9800x3d

[fathom venture]

did u have a look at the specs he listed

[cursive summit]

That's the best prebuilt he can get

[fathom venture]

seems impossible with his budget

[cursive summit]

And that tells me I don't even trust him to build a DIY PC

Let him buy an okay prebuilt and it's an over and done story

[fathom venture]

my guy pulled out the best and most expensive motherboard he could find

[cursive summit]

(which you did suggest)

[fathom venture]

thats itselfcosts over 1700

[fathom venture]

hell no

[fathom venture]

i said go for entry level mobos

thats me tho

and even tho

godlike for tht???

when tomahawk exist s

[cursive summit]

Anyways, they don't even know basic PC terminology, stop confusing them, give them a decent prebuilt, and move on with your day

[fathom venture]

true

[cursive summit]

Buy this and you'll game fine https://www.amazon.in/ZOTAC-I7-13700-Rtx4070-Sodimm-Sataiii/dp/B0CG1YSS1N

[hasty surge]

Can’t I get a prebuilt with 9800???

[cursive summit]

None exist in India

[hasty surge]

If I build it myself?

[cursive summit]

I don't trust you to do that considering your statements

[hasty surge]

I just have problems with the cpu part it looks very hard to install

[fathom venture]

oh trust me thats not the only hard part for u

[cursive summit]

This is exactly why I don't trust them to do DIY

I am still unconvinced they are not trolling

Get a prebuilt from some store, I don't know your language, all 300 of them that exist

[fathom venture]

probably not

[hasty surge]

I’m speaking in English though?

[cursive summit]

Yeah I'm done with this

[fathom venture]

oh or ykw get someone to build it for u maybe?

costs like a couple of bucks

[hasty surge]

Can I get the specs I’ll need then?

[cursive summit]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfwrwY

This is the last input into this discussion I'm having

[fathom venture]

yea just get that

[hasty surge]

Damn you’re mad rude

[fathom venture]

bro-

[cursive summit]

I did tell you they were trolling

[fathom venture]

i was the nicest to u-

yea bye

[hasty surge]

I’m not though?

@fathom venture Can you give me your build??

[fathom venture]

whats your problem?

[cursive summit]

I just learned that PS2 officially supports Linux

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_2

[fathom venture]

its overkill for your purpose

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume You should get a PS2 and run Linux on it

[hasty surge]

Why? Is it too good?

[fathom venture]

TvT

8000$

[reef patrol]

Really? It was one of the main draws of the harddrive.

[fathom venture]

LMK WHEN YOU ARE READY FOR THAT

IMMA DIP NOW BYE

[cursive summit]

I had the thing and I've never even heard of people running Linux on it

[reef patrol]

[hasty surge]

What about you @cursive summit ?

[cursive summit]

Hold on why does the PS2 have a hard drive

[hasty surge]

Nah I’m good lmao

[cursive summit]

My slim did not have that lel

[reef patrol]

Yeah they scrapped it on the slim, cause no one really used it. It was for MMOs and such.

[cursive summit]

I grew up with this image of a PS2

The fat one I've never seen in person

[reef patrol]

Might also be due to how easy it was to make games boot from the HDD 😄

The Slim is unfortunately the inferior retro product. It doesn't boot games fast enough to avoid FMW skipping and such.

[cursive summit]

Yeah I do remember it did take a bit for games to boot on my 2

Damn it's been like 15 years, I kinda miss those days

[reef patrol]

It was wild to play PS2 games online though. Even for a brief moment for the few games that supported it.

Racing games, shooters and such.

[cursive summit]

Prolly would be behind some account requirement?

[reef patrol]

Oh yeah. Sony had their SOE even back then.

[cursive summit]

My PS2 never got once connected to the net (probably because I didn't even know it had that functionality lol)

Though Socom 3 online sounds pretty banger, one of my favourite PS2 titles

[wheat plume]

no thanks xd

[reef patrol]

Back when console manufacturers did cool shit. You'd get internet and HDD support in a fairly cheap adaptor.

[cursive summit]

Ain't you a Linux absolutist

Tbf PS2 is like, NASA supercomputer levels of powerful back then or something

So it kinda makes sense to try and do PC on it

Though nowadays with the built in browser PS5 and co are basically just PCs

[reef patrol]

At least until Sony threw a fit and got sued for removing it 😄

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah and the PS2 came with a demo disc that had yabasic, apparently this was all to get it classified as a general purpose computer or something for reduced taxes or summat?

[reef patrol]

🤔

[crimson wigeon]

Too bad I never got the network adapter 😦

[reef patrol]

Shame. These days it can be challenging to find. And the knockoffs often don't have Ethernet.

[wild heart]

another question, was it worth getting the "Jade" version of the Wooting 80HE keycaps, or is there no performance loss with what I've ordered?

[wheat plume]

DISCORD lost its themed icon ..-.

[reef patrol]

I think you're mixing some things up there, friend.

Jade switches are... well switches. Keycaps are keycaps 😄

One goes up and down when you push them down, the other are the plastic bits on top with the letters.

[wild heart]

I'll admit, I'm a noob at keyboards

is there any better (I know it'd be very, very little gains) performance I could of gotten from what I've currently ordered? that'd be the better question

just happy I've going to upgrade from SteelSeries Apex 3 TKL

thanks for the help before as well, @reef patrol, wanted to ensure what I'm buying was correct, even went and got the wrist rest due to peeps on here recommending it (I wouldn't of gotten it otherwise)

[reef patrol]

As someone who works from home at a PC for 7 hours a day, plus however much I use it in my offtime, the wristrest definitely helps 😄

[wild heart]

sweet, I know tech, just not that much on keyboards

[reef patrol]

As for mods - Nothing you do will increase "performance" as such. It all comes down to personal preference of how something feels or sounds. Lubing switches yourself may make them slightly quieter or softer to touch. But that won't translate to ingame performance.

[wild heart]

this is new to me, and wanted assistance

[wild heart]

sweet, so regardless of what I have now, it'd just come down to how it'd look, feel etc?

[reef patrol]

[wild heart]

that's good, probs saved me another £100 xD

the order page added £30ish more, due to UK TAX xD

just went with it

if I'm not mistaken, it's coming from a UK warehouse right? hence the wait

[reef patrol]

I mean to be fair you would be paying that anyhow. Cause even before Brexit, the UK was paying "VAT" in a similar way to now.

We ship from the Netherlands. But we have the paperwork in order to handle all money on checkout. No courier on delivery "we need more money pls" issues.

[wild heart]

xD it's not an issue for me, just went I put my address in, it added the tax afterwards, catch me off guard, yet did just buy it, as other, third party keyboards are still higher pricing

with this snappy tap thing, I also take it I can't enable that for CS2?

I don't need it

just want the key press and release

[topaz fog]

FMW?

[stiff path]

I even got an extra wooting 60 wrist rest, for my office keeb as they are great

[reef patrol]

Video.

[topaz fog]

i dont have this issue on any slims :p

[reef patrol]

How are you loading your games?

[topaz fog]

disc

[reef patrol]

Well duh 😄

We were talking about loading backups from elsewhere.

[cursive summit]

Was running discs here too

[topaz fog]

oh yeah of course

i guess i missed that part

yeah the usb ports are painfully slow

although burning to a dvd suffices nicely

[cursive summit]

Damn how much more happiness I would have had if I realized internet existed for more than just flash games in 2008 and could have played all sorts of shit on PS2, like FF

[reef patrol]

USB is too slow, Memory card is too slow, Ethernet is too slow.
And the Slim doesn't have its IDE for a harddrive without soldering at least afaik.

[cursive summit]

Actually PS2 ethernet was quite fast

[reef patrol]

Not fast enough though.

[topaz fog]

not for streaming game backups

[cursive summit]

100 Mbit is quite good for early 2000s

[topaz fog]

ps2 linux is as awesome as it gets but eh i dont really play backups on mine

[cursive summit]

But yeah HDD apparently ran at 66MB/s, whereas ethernet was 12.5 MB/s

Then it was USB which was 1.5MB/s and god knows what for those little flash cards

[topaz fog]

thats actually a complete lie i have several burned to discs

[reef patrol]

https://youtu.be/mUJjmyG7FBw&t=896

Not fast enough basically 😄

[topaz fog]

thats crazy lol

[reef patrol]

And apparently depending on what model you have, it could be even worse - because Sony downgraded the bandwidth on later Slim revisions.

[topaz fog]

why does this exist when you can get a fat ps2

[cursive summit]

I mean when emulators are perfectly good nowadays, I don't know why I'd ever use the OG hardware

[reef patrol]

Some people just prefer the Slim I guess. And "because we can" is a strong motivator.

[topaz fog]

i do prefer the slim too

[reef patrol]

I love the bricky design of the fat. Especially when standing vertically.

[hasty surge]

Guys how about:
r5 5600x
16 gb ddr4 ram
Rtx 3060 12 gb
Can I play high demanding single player games on this and every single game available rn on this? Valo/cs at maybe 400 fps at best?

[topaz fog]

my dad had a fat one, and i had to fight him to be able to play it. then one christmas i got my own slim and it was maybeee the best day of my life up to that point

[reef patrol]

Because I have the hardware already. Easier/Cheaper than buying new controllers or adaptors 😄

Not to mention memory card readers.

[hasty surge]

@fathom venture @cursive summit

[topaz fog]

yeah emulators generally don't scratch the same itch for me

[cursive summit]

And the OG PS2 controller?

I can't imagine how bad they feel over the new ones lel

[topaz fog]

ps3 controllers work great in a pc

[reef patrol]

Got several.

[cursive summit]

PS5 controller is very very comfy

[fathom venture]

sounds like a decent build ig but not 400 fps 250 to 300 is more realistic, its decent for your budget ig

[topaz fog]

you mean like 10x better? :) they peaked with the dualshock 1/2/3, by far

[reef patrol]

I have a PS1, PS2 and a PS3 all with at least one good, first party controller. None of that silly touchpad silliness here.

[cursive summit]

Most definitely not?

[reef patrol]

Also have several Xbox OGs and several 360s in various states of functionality. 😄

[topaz fog]

that's just, like, your opinion, man!

ps2 controller is the best controller i've ever used

[cursive summit]

I had Dualshocks 1 to 2, and they were unreliable, uncomfortable, easy to break, rubber on thumbsticks was fragile

DualSense is like miles ahead

[hasty surge]

Is 250 good?

[topaz fog]

i cant stand the new ones

[fathom venture]

unless youre really good at the game idt u will notice a difference

[reef patrol]

They stopped having all of these screw holes, which is the only improvement to PS controllers I'll concede to. Cause those would dig into your skin over time 😄

[halcyon moss]

Dude, anything above 90 is real good already

[fathom venture]

the jump from 60 to 144 is much higher anyways

[topaz fog]

the screw holes are a fidget.. hehehe

[fathom venture]

he wants 480 on oled 2k let him be lol

[halcyon moss]

I hate the screw holes in that controller. It dug deep in my hands

[hasty surge]

@cursive summit thoughts?

[cursive summit]

Don't talk to me

[fathom venture]

bhahaha

[topaz fog]

based..

[cursive summit]

PS1 controller was so.. horrid

[hasty surge]

That’s a bit rude

[cursive summit]

PS2 was alright, but the rubber on thumbsticks was so cheap

[reef patrol]

They didn't really address these screw holes fully till like... the PS3 I think?

[topaz fog]

at least we can all agree that despite inventing them, nintendo has no idea how to make a d-pad. what the hell is going on with the gamecube controller. unusable

[fathom venture]

just get what u want bro get a 240hz monitor instead its just as good

[cursive summit]

Switch 2 joycon unironically supposedly is not bad?

[topaz fog]

dunno it isnt out yet

[cursive summit]

Well leaks said hall effect thumbsticks which is very pog

[topaz fog]

oh thats awesome

i was hoping so

[old marlin]

dpad design still sucks

[topaz fog]

havent really been following the leaks

[cursive summit]

Why'd you even use dpad though

[old marlin]

and them not falling apart on their own within weeks to moths should not be "good"

[topaz fog]

most of the games i play are 2d rpgs and such

[old marlin]

why is it included again?

[topaz fog]

so i find the dpad quite important

[cursive summit]

Dpad was unironically kinda not necessary back in NDS n/ 3DS days, that second screen touchscreen was megapog

[old marlin]

that is insane amounts of copium

[topaz fog]

big disagree what the hell games were you playing

[fathom venture]

can i dm someone with a few issues im facing with the payment for my order? who deals with that kinda stuff tho

[topaz fog]

you can go to https://wooting.io/support :)

[cursive summit]

The only game I've played on NDS or 3DS is Pokemon X/Y

And it was very touchscreen compatible

[topaz fog]

let me play pokemon emerald using an analog stick -> statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

oh well that is a 3d game.. 90% of nds games were 2d in nature

3ds yeah i see dpad being phased out but it's also backwards compat with the og ds so you need it

[old marlin]

you sure as hell can't play that on an NDS

and the 3DS already had a weird slidypad

[fair gull]

i have prob not played any game besides animal crossing on 3ds that needed a joystick or felt good with one (in nintendo ds land)

[topaz fog]

oot and majora 3ds remakes, i really liked

[whole axle]

Pokémon Y >>>>>>> anything

[fathom venture]

bump TvT

[fair gull]

never played them cause i have an n64

[old marlin]

💀

[topaz fog]

bump TvT

[whole axle]

Don’t hate….

[fathom venture]

mb

[whole axle]

Take it back

[old marlin]

I do tho

gen 6 was when it started going down the drain

[whole axle]

I mean

[topaz fog]

i missed that generation

[whole axle]

Personally

[topaz fog]

oot 3d was my first time playing it QwQ

[whole axle]

White > Y > anything

Best list

[whole axle]

Legends Za will save it

[fair gull]

ok so pokemon white and pokemon y are better than every other game out there

[topaz fog]

do not ask me for my opinions on pokemon games. i will not stop talking and people will be offended.

[old marlin]

[whole axle]

Other Pokémon games*

[fair gull]

say it... say ruby and sapphire were peak

[old marlin]

I don't think gamefreak has a good game in them atm

[whole axle]

Pokémon Y is heavily debatable

But Pokémon white 2 is the highest peak

[topaz fog]

Typed out 4 lines worth of message before deleting

[whole axle]

💀💀

I was waiting

[fair gull]

come on

do your worst

[whole axle]

I’m sad now

[topaz fog]

idk ruby and sapphire were pretty good they were just made obsolete by the existence of emerald

[whole axle]

Fair

[topaz fog]

if you really want to trigger me you say omega ruby and alpha sapphire were peak. then i'd strangle you

[fair gull]

something as an avid emerald player i can agree with

[whole axle]

Y’all think omega and alpha were good?

[topaz fog]

no

[whole axle]

I just read ur message 💀💀

[old marlin]

brilliant pearl and shining diamond be like

[fair gull]

a sad sad remake that i wish was closer to the originals and had the clothing system of black/white

[topaz fog]

sad sad franchise

[whole axle]

In legends Za we trust 🙏

[fair gull]

lol no

itll be shit

[whole axle]

But but

[old marlin]

black/white had no clothing system

[whole axle]

I can dodge…..

[fair gull]

was it x/y

[whole axle]

Yes

[old marlin]

yea

[topaz fog]

this was the last time i bought a pokemon game

[fair gull]

there was one released before the remakes that had clothing system

but they didnt implement it in the remakes

[whole axle]

How we feel about sun and moon?

[topaz fog]

awful

[whole axle]

😭😭😭

Bro is a fiend for the oldies

[topaz fog]

not replayable at all which is the whole point of pokemon

[fair gull]

for me it was gen1-gen4 good games

although i heavily lean to emerald and platinum

[topaz fog]

it doesnt even feel like your own adventure like a pokemon game should, it feels like you're playing a 3rd person game that follows the lives of Lillie and Hau and your own adventure is secondary

[whole axle]

Legends arceus??? Bad too?

That’s fair

[fair gull]

id rather play palworld

[topaz fog]

also they stopped doing interesting dungeons or puzzles or anything like that

[whole axle]

💀💀💀

Palworld is crazy

[fair gull]

like pokemon mystery dungeons?

[topaz fog]

like what happened to tough strength puzzles in the seafoam islands to find articuno? nowadays they just give legendary pokemon to you through some magic portal with 0 mystique at all

[whole axle]

Or a code 🫡

[fair gull]

well codes/giveaways happened before as well

but you got story with it

travel to some long lost island

[whole axle]

Not at the frequency tho

[old marlin]

sometimes

[fair gull]

and what not

[whole axle]

It’s like every other day with scarlet and violet rn

[old marlin]

iirc the celebee gen 2 event had basically no story or something

[topaz fog]

i mean that was the first time they did it

[whole axle]

Honestly tho I think I’ve had more fun with fan made games

[topaz fog]

also i dont like the HM replacement in sun/moon, because the whole point of HMs was that it was your own pokemon helping you along your adventure but now i'm riding some random bozo's charizard? really lame

[whole axle]

I can agree with that

[topaz fog]

overall sun and moon were the worst pokemon games ive played

[fair gull]

yeah i want my bidoof hm slave

[topaz fog]

thanks for coming to my #🔌│tech highly on-topic ted talk

[whole axle]

😭😭

It is tech

[fair gull]

no its #🎮│game

[whole axle]

Sun and moon is like putting a fork in the outlet 🫡

Tech

[topaz fog]

time to break some code

[fair gull]

same

[bright briar]

i never even played those games

[analog sinew]

same

[bright briar]

they wanted the hm slaves pokemon to have a break

[analog sinew]

i didnt buy sm anymore

[whole axle]

I guess for the best according to some lol

[analog sinew]

switch 2 will save pokemon (it wont)

[bright briar]

crystal version is the goat for me

first game was red version but then a family member lost it when i moved 😢

[bright briar]

naw switch 2 is trash

[analog sinew]

probably

[bright briar]

how you make a sequel console that cant play all of your switch 1 games

like tf

[analog sinew]

it doesnt?

didnt they advertise it was compatible

[bright briar]

mb i messed the screen shot up, here ^

i also didnt like pokemon scarlet and violet

[topaz fog]

its probably compatible with like 99%

[bright briar]

knowing nintendo

i'll wait

[ashen spindle]

That’s pretty normal, every console has had disclaimers like that even when it was like 2 incompatible game s

[wheat belfry]

how can i add insert on wooting 60he

[analog sinew]

by remapping in wootility

[wheat belfry]

idk where i find this

[analog sinew]

check the quickstart guide then

[wheat belfry]

okay

[bright briar]

to be honest quin i never seen another official console trailer to have that disclaimer in their video

[topaz fog]

well the ps3 and ps2 spring to mind as backwards compatible consoles that have some minor compatibility issues, maybe they just didnt bother with the disclaimer back then

[analog sinew]

are there any weird switch1 exclusive gyro features?

[wheat belfry]

i got it thank u

[analog sinew]

also there is always 3rd party publishers

that for some reason might not want to release in switch2 in theory?

[bright briar]

might be nintendo gatekeeping their old games so you're forced to buy the newer versions but we'll see which games are playable on launch

[topaz fog]

i hate the big company as much as the next person but i think you're ascribing imaginary malice before anything concrete has been announced

[bright briar]

i get what youre saying but thats why i said we shall wait and see

[balmy vector]

Dunno if hd rumble would be one but the mario party games use it a looot

[bright briar]

its also not imaginary malice when they keep a lot of their old popular games locked away instead of having it in their nintendo game pass

[ashen spindle]

I mean that’s not really relevant. Same sorta language was used when some DS games that used the mic like Zelda games where you had to blow air away got a port and they other console wouldn’t have the functionality

So if there’s some game using some obscure gyro control that nobody else is that switch2 doesn’t work with in that sense it would be enough to warrant this text

[bright briar]

oh i see

[balmy vector]

First thing imma do with switch 2 is replay xenoblade 2