🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

Does this mean that Arch will become the second officially supported distro by Steam?

Cause Steam only officially supports Ubuntu...Ironically enough, since they havent updated that to include SteamOS

[iron wave]

SteamOS is based on Arch.

[wheat plume]

Yeah, but if you go to Steam;s website, they only say they offer support for Ubuntu

and only offer deb packages to download

[iron wave]

Yeah, I don't think it's a huge issue. Ubuntu tends to be a pretty early OS and past that people will more or less understand how things work.

[unkempt lake]

how to get your phone taken by a cop 101

[iron wave]

Oh yeah this is a super bad idea.

Ah yes officer, here is my unlocked phone that I am showing you I have too much personal information on. Please take it and look though it because I am giving it to you so you no longer need to meet a higher level of scrutiny to seach it.

[ashen spindle]

why would you unlock it for that, you can show stuff from the wallet on the lock screen

[iron wave]

Can you?

[ashen spindle]

yeah when I use it for entry tickets or such I dont opent he phone

I guess they could just not do that for the license and then it would be needed

[iron wave]

I use my watch for that.

It locks when it leaves my wrist. :-)

[ashen spindle]

on apple at least, idk what android does

[sudden imp]

uHM didn’t think about it like that

[iron wave]

(That's by design)

[sudden imp]

Yep no wonder it’s not offered in my state lol

[iron wave]

Though I do think some sort of national ID system where your card has some sort of FIDO thing in it would be very cool.

[final flame]

you can technically pin a app so they can only access a single app without unlocking the phone

that's a feature android has

[iron wave]

Used to have.

Or at least I can't find it anymore.

[halcyon moss]

They can scan it, nfc it something

[iron wave]

https://tenor.com/view/right-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-i-know-right-agree-gif-9200419

I don't want my phone to be close enough to them for NFC to work.

For a bunch of things, but there is also a good chance you won't win because cops have way too many protections right now.

https://tenor.com/view/america-usa-merica-murica-flag-gif-5628520

I'm starting to get upset at this project again. .-.

[little silo]

what are you doing?

[iron wave]

Parsing C#/CIL PE files.

I can't seem to figure out the correct way to parse the TypeDef and TypeRef tables.

[wheat plume]

The official default gnome shell theme does not properly support an official gnome shell feature

🤦‍♀️

its not meant to be misaligned like this and plenty of third party themes already fixed this

[bright briar]

lets create tech here where we keep our pets alive forever🥹

[little silo]

Can I send a link in here?

I'm trying to type up a Google Doc, and would like some help parsing through errors, and the sort. If you'd like to help, feel free to DM me or reply to me. Thank you.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/KezTr7vOqtQ

Cool features, ugly af xd

and you need a Warp account...

[distant tapir]

Pantsu

[oblique solstice]

quick question

any1 with a gpx2 having stutters in league after the latest firmware update?

on 8k polling rate, whenever u move the camera in game it drops to 0 fps for a millisecond in random increments

[gusty kiln]

don't use 8K, even the best CPU might struggle in certain games

[oblique solstice]

cs2 doesnt stutter, league does

i think the games engine is just crap it doesnt support 8k its too old

ill keep it at 1k then for league

classic riot games spaghetti code

[gusty kiln]

but at the same time, do you really need 4k/8k for mobas?

I've been using my GPX2 in 1K this whole time

[oblique solstice]

truth be told

[gusty kiln]

loving the battery life

[oblique solstice]

u dont need it for mobas

[gusty kiln]

2K is enough to give that smooth feeling

[oblique solstice]

but for cs2 it helps with tracking sure but even that can be argued, its way better to have it for mw3

[gusty kiln]

if you want it

[oblique solstice]

i can feel the 8k in games like cod where u track a lot and apex

[gusty kiln]

yeah

[oblique solstice]

in cs2 i think 1k is fine especially if u play at lower game resolution its not that important then

[gusty kiln]

flicks and peak-a-boo shooters less so

[oblique solstice]

ure right

in mobas its important at all

ill just put it at 1k for league

well anything at or above 240hz will display the change

[gusty kiln]

isn't there a feature where you can auto set polling rate depending on the game?

[oblique solstice]

i think there is but i hate the lg hub

so i dont use that, or any keybinds

[gusty kiln]

OBMM life

imagine 1K hz monitor with 1K polling rate

perfect sync

[oblique solstice]

thats possible in 5 years id say

[gusty kiln]

probably 2 years since we already over 500hz OC

[oblique solstice]

hardware will be able to support 1k hz 1080p easily

but 1440p not rlly id say

[gusty kiln]

valorant with a 6090

[oblique solstice]

dw game devs will make their games able to ruk 1k fps

esports game devs*

[gusty kiln]

and a 10800X3D or whatever the new intel naming scheme

[oblique solstice]

i9 19th gen

[gusty kiln]

it's not i9 anymore

it's like core ultra 9 or something like that

[ashen spindle]

core ultra 9 285k

[gusty kiln]

🤮

I wonder if OW2 1080p low with a 4090 can get close to 1000 fps

it reaches the 600 cap easily

[balmy vector]

Probably could if you could go past the cap

[gusty kiln]

actually it's all CPU at that point

[balmy vector]

Mhm

[distant tapir]

BFI.

I also really want a 1 000 Hz monitor.

[spare wedge]

Coming in 2036

[distant tapir]

A few years max.

[gusty kiln]

zowie 1K hz 1080p TN for 3 grand

[spare wedge]

The bandwidth for a 1000hz has to be massive tbo

To the point where not even DSC can give a decent picture quality with current cables

[distant tapir]

DP 2.0/1 can do 10 bit 1920x1080 at 1 000 Hz without DSC.

[spare wedge]

That’s just not true lol

[ashen spindle]

1080p1000 would be 62gb/s for bandwidth so you can almost do it with uhbr20 which is 80 but that theoretical numbers that dont quite work that simple

[distant tapir]

Isn't 1920 x 1080 10 bit 1 000 Hz 74.65 Gbps?

[ashen spindle]

10bit should yeah I was looking at 8

uhb20 already has issues with cables being a max of like 1.2 meters to have enough signal

so yes we could have more but then you need to glue the monitor to the pc

[gusty kiln]

easy with a single 24" 1080p monitor

[ashen spindle]

I mean just because they are both bandwidth number doesnt mean it makes sense to compare something like pcie numbers to display cables

[spare wedge]

Isn’t 1.2m around like 4ft

It’s not that small

[ashen spindle]

Uhbr20? Yeah it’s short af

That’s one of the current issues with it

[spare wedge]

My desktop is sitting on top of my desk next to my monitor so it would reach fine for me at least

[gusty kiln]

sweaty e-sport gamers would make it work

[ashen spindle]

Wouldn’t work on my standing desk I think, didn’t measure it in detail

[distant tapir]

The VGA cable I use is 0,25 cm.

[spare wedge]

His nose is touching the screen

[gusty kiln]

he can smell the enemies

[spare wedge]

Bro you literally just read my mind

What the fuck

[sudden imp]

What’s the deal with Arch Linux and Valve? I saw something briefly and cannot find it again.

Never mind found the article

Cool valve is supporting it

[final flame]

Winamp is in shambles
https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues

not even just that, take a look at the amount of spam issues

[magic minnow]

I think I'm gonna get a new Motherboard

[north tide]

It depends a lot on the refresh rate, 2k isn't yet at the point where you stop noticing improvement for 360-540hz especially. It's more than plenty for a 144hz monitor though.

2000/480 = 4.167

that means that every 6'th refresh (6x .167) there will be 5 instead of 4 polls of motion, so the cursor will move 25% further than usual

the difference between 4 and 5 polls is pretty large, it's better to have around 10 polls per refresh for the differences in rate (beat frequencies) to be negligable

I took pictures of this effect w/ 500hz vs 2000hz mouse on a 360hz monitor a while ago

on 360-540hz it's significant enough to notice 2000hz vs 4-8k (although i can't distinguish between those two)

I'm p. sure that people using 500-1000hz mice is one of the big contributors to many early reviewers saying that 360hz monitors didn't help much. They really do, but if you're dragging a window or turning your camera in an FPS game they're only as smooth as your input device and synchronisation to it. If you have the top picture or any configuration facing remotely the same kind of desyncronisation issue, then it's gonna look blurry and far less smooth than it should.

Cranking the update rate of the mouse to 10x that of the monitor was apparently the easiest way to fix it. This also only incidentally affects the latency, latency was not the problem and so the peeps saying e.g. "it's less than 1ms better" are missing the point. It's about accurately and consistently updating the system with the actual position of the mouse so that frames which are equally spaced in time while the mouse moves at a constant rate can all have the same amount of mouse motion. With e.g. 360hz monitor and 1000hz mouse, sometimes the monitor only gets 2 mouse polls before a refresh and sometimes it gets 3 so the cursor jumps around pretty erratically. If you crank the mouse to 8000hz then it's getting 22 or 23 polls per refresh, and the difference between those two numbers is basically negligible rather than +50%.

[north tide]

It's not really, because the monitor and mouse aren't perfectly synced and the difference between 3 refreshes vs 2 or 4 is huge. See above^

definitely want mouse at least 3x the monitor bare minimum though. 1khz on 360hz is really noticably bad.

another awful one is 500hz mouse on 144hz monitor. It's 3.47 mouse polls per refresh, so about half of refreshes it has 3 polls and the other half it has 4 polls. It's really unsmooth, and that has over 3 mouse updates per refresh.

as high number as possible before the decimal is important too 👍🏻

if you deviate from +- 1 poll from 3 it can be a big smoothness loss. But if you get 19 or 21 instead of 20, that doesn't really matter.

and IRL you dont get completely perfect ratios at all, it's always drifting around and having timing errors

i find this kind of thing interesting, stuff (math quirks) that is actually rather important but was not figured out at all for a while

now we understand it, there are research papers, and we can make A/B tests at home that are obviously showing the smoothness problems that we used to tolerate because that was the best we knew how to do

Haha yeah saturating 8k maxes two cores of my cpu sometimes

and it breaks osu!'s FPS limiter

definitely something to watch out for and a + for 4k, because benefits above that are very small and this sort of thing can hurt you more than it helps

yeah i set it off ingame, it does 4000fps but the limiter gets really confused with the mouse cpu load or something

[severe phoenix]

https://www.hexgaming.com/collections/phantom-premium-edition/products/ps5-phantom-controller-chaos-black

[pseudo vortex]

80HE - volume controls, is there a way to adjust them to be bigger increments than +2?

[balmy vector]

Thats more of a OS thing than a keyboard thing

[pseudo vortex]

thought it might be, was just going down the rabbit hole of looking into registry editing

I guess those are default windows commands wooting is using

[late grove]

Do you know how to calculate the jitter?

[tight scaffold]

So i had a virus like 2 years ago and 6 months ago i bought this monitor and used it on the laptop that had virus but ofc i deletet it asap 2 years ago so can i use the monitor to my FIRST ever PC and not a laptop ???????? Im scared BC i saved 3 years for it

[dull axle]

Your moniter won't get affected

Its your laptop

[tight scaffold]

No it was a trojan i deletet it nothing got destroyed Luckily

[dull axle]

Then what is the issue?

If youre running a anti virus it shldnt be an issue

Your moniter is just hardware to stream for your PC thats it

It won't carry anything

[tight scaffold]

Okay thanks

And one More question

[dull axle]

Go on

[tight scaffold]

Could you help me do these ram and thing in BIOS when it arrives ?

[dull axle]

No

[tight scaffold]

How do i do it?

[dull axle]

Are you building a LAPTOP or a desktop?

[tight scaffold]

Desktop

[dull axle]

Whats your motherboard model

[dull axle]

BIOS is just an easy update and thats it

Installing isnt even an issue

Ram installation is hardware

[tight scaffold]

Nevermind i remember how to do it thanks

[dull axle]

👍

[tight scaffold]

I will get the PC on friday so yea if i will have some issue i will ale

Ask

[wheat plume]

Seems not only is there issues with the iPhone 16 range displays....but also that the magsafe on them is not strong enough and shit keeps falling off the phone

which is very bad if people lose the magsafe wallet accesory

[north tide]

It's on the paper (page 3) but it's pretty complex

[empty wren]

Looks like I did not even need to insulate it whatsoever

[frozen ingot]

that's a lot of lipstick around that cpu

[ashen spindle]

is that LM on top of the IHS?

[empty wren]

Yup

[ashen spindle]

but why

[empty wren]

Been running fine in the past week

[empty wren]

I am just bored

And I did not have any thermal paste

But now I do

[ashen spindle]

thats likely going to etch into the ihs or the cooler that it will make contact with, is conductive and depending on what LM and what cooler it is could do anything from staining it to making it brittle or such which is why it's usually recommended against

could be fine but means you should check quite often that everything is fine

[empty wren]

With aluminum it becomes brittle?

[empty wren]

Yeah people recommend a year or so often. Seems a bit too long of a wait

[ashen spindle]

yeah would check after a month to make sure

well, I wouldnt check because I wouldnt use LM on top of the IHS xD but you know what I mean

[empty wren]

Yup

The contact frames are all aluminum though

Hence the lipstick(conformal coating) nightman

[late grove]

This reminds me of why I absolutely despised maths.

[ashen spindle]

well it depends on what LM exactly you use, idk what the mixes are in TG or whatever you have there

[empty wren]

Conductonaut

Definitely has gallium

[late grove]

How tf am I supposed to read this

[unkempt moat]

if i have the lekker 45 switches is it then worth it to change the springs to the 35 ones

[ashen spindle]

preference

[unkempt moat]

ok

[ashen spindle]

and in regards to jitter, well since that's usually defined as average deviation from the mean the formula for it needs multiple samples and the sum of multiple items is written down with a capital sigma

and what the different letters represent is explained in the paragraph before

[final flame]

Ye
https://youtu.be/z4TVnbuy4Lw?si=uSN8ll7hOphgUS92&t=56

[tight scaffold]

Hello SO i have a question with tech but not with tech

So i have this case and my desk has legroom on right and i want to have PC on right BC on the left i have cabinets i know i can turn so cabinets will be pointed the other way but then i will need to move my desk to accces cabinets what do i do ?

BC when it will be on the left it looks ass 2. I can’t see graphics card and other

[ashen spindle]

but does that matter

do you look at the monitor or at your gpu when you play

[tight scaffold]

Idk but it looks nice when i can see and what the point of glass case then

And like most of the build have it on right

[balmy vector]

You just go with what works best, which can vary

[dull hollow]

he could get a inverted case, like the ones that mount shi upside down

[iron wave]

I don't like the glass cases.

[balmy vector]

I dont like fishtank cases

[frozen ingot]

glass side is fine imo, you can check things like status lights or wiring without having to open it up which is practical

but glass everywhere just makes it a worse layout for cooling in most cases

[dull hollow]

if you want to see your pc while having it on the left, best i found is Thermaltake Core G3 ATX Slim, but it isnt tempered glass

[balmy vector]

im fine with a glass panel personally, as long as its not tinted and all around the case

[dull hollow]

example of a build in the case ^

or if you want something slightly better looking

you can look into the bequiets Dark Base 700/900

[ashen spindle]

well he already has the case not looking to get it from my understanding

[dull hollow]

turn it upside down and wire up an external button

💯

if its still in the return window, the bequiet case can be fully taken apart and put together for your layout

[chilly fractal]

Good day, sorry if this is a stupid question but can anyone please confirm the spacebar on the 60HE is 6.25U? Thanks

[steep creek]

it is 6.25U

[ashen spindle]

https://x.com/9550pro/status/1840286277029031956 intel really heard the complaints and listened, no more 2 gen sockets

HXL (@9550pro) on X

So....One generation motherboard, one generation CPU .....

Twitter · Sep 29, 2024, 7:03 AM

[steep creek]

man just when i started having good thoughts about this company

[frozen ingot]

at this point just sell cpus with a motherboard attached to it

they are going to change it for every damn generation anyways

[chilly fractal]

Thanks for the help, just found it doing a search on here as well.

[steep creek]

no worries

man im just gonna wait for the 9000x 3d cpus and decide then

[sudden imp]

POV I want to upgrade my ram so I buy another motherboard with more installed (Apple method)

[chilly fractal]

I'm all over an Asus X870-E and a 9800X3D when they are up for sale. My next big upgrade, Intel 14th gen is a joke.

[analog sinew]

noo dont say that

[steep creek]

hm yea 7000 here is still quite pricey

[analog sinew]

my next pc will be so horribly expensive

[leaden kiln]

🍻

[analog sinew]

i kinda want a new pc for mhwilds :/

[chilly fractal]

If you can buy some things with money, they are cheap. Our gaming rigs would have been literally magic 30 years ago.

I played pnog on B&W TV when I was a kid and that was cutting-edge.

*pong

[analog sinew]

then paypal me 5k if its cheap :p

[chilly fractal]

Get out from behind your monitor, get a job and earn it.

[analog sinew]

i have a job and i have the money, you said it was cheap 🤷‍♂️

[chilly fractal]

I spent the last 50 years getting wealthy so it is cheap for me, sorry if you're experience differs. :p

[analog sinew]

cool 👍

[dull hollow]

[dull hollow]

not to be that guy but im being that guy rn, its your*

[chilly fractal]

?

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414

[chilly fractal]

Well you can go shove what you want back into your fundament there my little authoritarian friend.

[analog sinew]

you're fundament

[ashen spindle]

guess grandpa didnt take his meds today again

[spare wedge]

good content

[bright briar]

how is this troll still in the server

bro beefing everyone on a burner account

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/Gqm4V-8F-7k?si=RtcZ1pkgB8-rKHBT

Extra hilarious coz they have decent gpu water cooling hardware, and they decided to use a hack job for their 4700 system

[sudden imp]

corsair is kinda :/

right now they have been releasing medicore stuff at best

[gusty kiln]

Corsair have never been high quality and more of an influencer brand. But shame they have fallen so low

[analog sinew]

prebuilts have some sort of curse laid upon them

[gusty kiln]

only their psu propping turn up

[frozen ingot]

they were in the 00s

but most of ya'll are probably too young to remember those times

[gusty kiln]

Corsair should be eating EKWB lunch right now, but they are fumbling in their own way

[frozen ingot]

used to be a very solid brand back when they pretty much solely made ram

[reef patrol]

Oh gods no.

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yey another prebuilt PC review

[reef patrol]

Let EK die a natural death instead of becoming part of Corsair's terrible water-cooling ecosystem

[frozen ingot]

and psus made from seasonic designs

[sudden imp]

FR

hopefully someone else will try to fill EK's void

[gusty kiln]

I meant eating their market share. People use the term "eating their lunch" alot on the stock meme reddit.

[sudden imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIu8TToPY3A

The whole BTF thing also just seems ugly

[reef patrol]

I repeat my former statement

[gusty kiln]

An alphacool domination would be interesting

[sudden imp]

Bequiet some how makes a similar case to what corsair did look nicer?

[gusty kiln]

But at the same time bequiet is just chasing trends

Wish they make something unique again

[frozen ingot]

I'll stick with fractal or lian li for cases

[gusty kiln]

Yeah, I love to use the north xl for next build

[sudden imp]

antec's newest stuff seems decent

Lian li usually always does a good job with their cases

[frozen ingot]

antec was great back in the 00s, had two of their cases

[gusty kiln]

They are making a small comeback

[sudden imp]

only one I could seem some issues with was the a3-matx but the price seems to make those irrelevant

[gusty kiln]

And GN reviews should add move publicly

[frozen ingot]

antec ninehundred and p180/182

classic cases

[late grove]

I am pretty sure there are enough alternatives.

[tight scaffold]

Is 4070 good

[steady sail]

if u get the ddr6x one

[tight scaffold]

What is that

I got into PC tech lately so idk

[gusty kiln]

they nerfed it slightly

it's like 1-5% slower

[tight scaffold]

I will have 4070 inno3d in my build

Is it good?

[steady sail]

its the memory type of the card

[ashen spindle]

yes its good

[steady sail]

but yeah overall a good card

[gusty kiln]

It's the best value nvidia card

Or maybe the 4070 super is

[steady sail]

the super is better

with a few more % but idk for sure

[tight scaffold]

Idk id super will get here

[lyric hatch]

Big ol air cooler

[frozen ingot]

air cooling is based

[late grove]

No.

[ashen spindle]

ok how is it not a good card

[steady sail]

whats good for him

[umbral heron]

Say 4060 is okay for budget gaming on pcmr subreddit
You'll be crucified

4070 good card, but 7800xt is a bit better and a bit cheaper

[steady sail]

yeah a lil bit

[frozen ingot]

but muh arrr teeee exxxx and deee el ess ess

[ashen spindle]

well given it sounded like the card is already on its way the question is less about it being the best or a good deal

so if you get a pc coming and it has a 4070, is that a good gpu? yes

[umbral heron]

That's why I went with Radeon

[ashen spindle]

(now we wait the odd reasons for why it supposedly isn't)

[frozen ingot]

4070 might not be the greatest bang for buck, but its not a bad card by any stretch

[steady sail]

its an okay card

but that card performance should have been give to the 4060 ti

[gusty kiln]

Performance on 200-300 cards have barely improved this last decade

[steady sail]

yeah can we go back to the 10th series ?

when u get performance ?

[umbral heron]

Nvidia will never again make such a mistake

[steady sail]

i dont know why tho best gpu series from them

i loved my 1070

oh wait i know

AI bullshit

[umbral heron]

Exactly
10-series were so good that 1080 holds up pretty well even to this day
They'll never make such a mistake again

[steady sail]

okay the 10 series is aged very well

but the age is there sadly

i mean i was thinking going with a 1080 ti

[ashen spindle]

ehhh the 1080ti maybe, the 1080 was okay

[frozen ingot]

yeah the 1080ti was the "mistake"

the other ones not as much

[ashen spindle]

ti was them fearing vega too much probably, the rest was a nice tech improvement+ node jump+timing within the console lifecycle

[gusty kiln]

10 series is when they finally competed on vram as well

[steady sail]

i mean those prices alone

[gusty kiln]

Then they got scared for 20 and 30

[ashen spindle]

if we would get a 50 series earlier this year and it was a node jump it would have been similar probably, price aside, because nodes are more expensive now

[frozen ingot]

because of how broken 1080ti was value-wise the 20-series became a major disappointment in comparison

[ashen spindle]

the 2080ti being a expensive flagship that didnt do much more exacarbated that yea

[steady sail]

and then we got the 30 series with the mining incident

[unkempt lake]

The 7900xtx handles RT fine tbh. Just have the game on ultra and RT on medium or select the RT effects that make more of an impact (i find that RT shadows is the one that matters the least to me visually)

Example Forza Motorsport uses RT heavily. i can get like 60-65fps with RT cranked of get 100ish fps with RT reflexions high + RTGI at medium which imo looks so fucking similar to maxed out i can't tell the difference no matter how much pixel peeping i do

[umbral heron]

I don't care about RT

[unkempt lake]

Like is it as good as nvidia's RT? No but it's servicable

[steady sail]

and im just waiting for my 7900 gre

[unkempt lake]

Really depends on the game for me

Same as when i had my 2080

[steady sail]

i tried RT i dont see the difference soo i dont care L

[unkempt lake]

Turned it on in some games like control but tomb raider i left it off

[unkempt lake]

All depends on the game

Some i can't fucking see it

Some i can

[steady sail]

i mean i have like 10 games that has RT support

but i dont care xd

i tried RT on Control and CP77

not my thing at all

[unkempt lake]

Metro Exodus is a game that Wowed me RT wise, same with control

[steady sail]

the thing is i turned RT off on control and looked the same LOL

[unkempt lake]

You're blind xD

[steady sail]

or just i dont care about it

[solemn remnant]

you said today that you don't feel the difference whether mouse acceleration is on so I can't believe anything you say

[frozen ingot]

yeah difference between RT and no RT is huge

[umbral heron]

[unkempt lake]

Then you probably won't notice the difference between the 7900Gre and your 6700xt.

[spare wedge]

Meanwhile amd also had to play catch up so it didn’t matter

[frozen ingot]

if you can't tell the difference you're probably wasting money on good graphics cards

[unkempt lake]

I mean you don't notice the higher settings lil

[unkempt lake]

This

[balmy vector]

Rt is alright, but i personally dont use it in any game

[steady sail]

okay than i just kill myself

like fuck off

[unkempt lake]

To me it depends on the game

Some implement it well enough others poorly

Control is beautiful with RT

[frozen ingot]

some of the RT mods for cyberpunk is just ludicrous

[steep creek]

not today, OS wars aren't happening

[umbral heron]

Nah, it's another ridiculous and senseless discussion

[steady sail]

I JUST DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT RT AND THATS THE FUCKING REASON

[frozen ingot]

there there

[umbral heron]

Same

[solemn remnant]

malding

[umbral heron]

I got better card to get more frames in MH Wilds

[steady sail]

i wanna play video games not looking around for pointless ray traycing shits

[unkempt lake]

We're not gonna get more frame calslock

[unkempt lake]

Then why did you buy a new graphics card? To play your games at the lowest settings in 480p?

[umbral heron]

[steady sail]

can someone ban me ppls

[unkempt lake]

Dragon's dogshit 2 all over again ):

[steady sail]

i had enough of dashi fuck face

[ashen spindle]

you dont need to question someones purchases or what they do into tiniest detail tbf

[solemn remnant]

you can just block him

[distant tapir]

I like playing maxed out when possible. Shadows/RT max. Love how it looks.

But I only do it if I max out framerate at my resolution.

[balmy vector]

I always go high personally

Except textures obvs

[frozen ingot]

I don't care about maximum frames in all games, particularly not singleplayer ones

[umbral heron]

Coolio - still will get from somewhat stable 60 on high to perfectly stable 60 on high

[frozen ingot]

I'll happily sacrifice frames in the hundreds for a visually stunning experience

[umbral heron]

No reason to go ultra really
Post-processing needs the most processing power and makes the game less readable

[spare wedge]

Don’t get why akko was so mad tho

[spare wedge]

Ultra is useless

[distant tapir]

If it looks better there's a reason.

[spare wedge]

In most games

[balmy vector]

this right here is my thoughts summed up perfectly

[steady sail]

why? bc he is questioning everything that i would do so he is just a jack ass

[umbral heron]

Point it's not always the case

[ashen spindle]

I'd guess because it's not the first time their decisions got questioned

[spare wedge]

Lol

[unkempt lake]

I'm just a bit confused if graphics dont matter then why upgrade ?_?

[distant tapir]

Framerates?

[ashen spindle]

I mean if they dont care for one part it doesnt mean they dont care about all the others?

[umbral heron]

All that motion blur, TAA, bloom, depth of field...
When done right it looks gorgeous, but more often than not it's not done right, especially TAA

[unkempt lake]

Lower the settings?

[distant tapir]

That sacrifices visuals.

[balmy vector]

Even wukong has super noticeable shimmering

[distant tapir]

Wukong had epic motion artifacts when I tried it woohoo modern gaming!

[umbral heron]

Yeah, shimmering and it kinda looks like your GPU is lagging few frames behind
Fuck TAA

[ashen spindle]

he said they dont care about RT and you went on to saying then the 7900Gre over 6700x doesnt make sense..which is just a whole lot of assumptions when the original message was just about RT

[spare wedge]

LM3’s TAA is actually really good

[frozen ingot]

not caring about RT is one thing, not seeing an actual difference is another

[umbral heron]

Seemingly one of the few games that did it right

[ashen spindle]

either its a hyperbole or he just doesnt mind lighting changes that much or whatever but that doesnt mean it makes sense to then assume they are literally blind

[steady sail]

Overall im not buying a GPU for RT performance i dont care about it, i wanna get a better gpu for better performance over the 6700 xt in 1440p

[frozen ingot]

nah am just a bit surprised is all

for me its absolute night and day in many cases

[umbral heron]

Those lighting changes aren't worth halving framerate
Just frame limit and make GPU consume less power

[steady sail]

i just dont looking for them so i dont notice the difference

if the RT is on or of

[ashen spindle]

and lets assume he actually doesnt see a difference if shown the biggest differences in screenshots, still doesnt matter if he then would want to upgrade the gpu for toher reasons

[frozen ingot]

in some games the difference is very subtle I'll agree with that

[ashen spindle]

hence I think it's just an overreach to care about that part then

[frozen ingot]

in others its like looking at two different games almost

[steady sail]

• even if im playing a single player game i want at least 60fps so rt is not a thing that i want in games that i play

[umbral heron]

In CP77 sure the difference is only visible when there's TONS of lights on the scene
And even then it's more annoying than looking nice

Everything is drowning in light, game is borderline unreadable

[steady sail]

i tried Crysis RT and it wasnt for me

[umbral heron]

And that's okay
May your future 7900GRE chooch as much FPS as she can

[balmy vector]

And some are too dark

[unkempt lake]

As i said before depends on the game

[steady sail]

i dont buy GPU's for RT performance and thats it even if the game looks better with it

its not for me, i dont care about RT stuff

[umbral heron]

Better is subjective

[unkempt lake]

6700xt at 1440p ok makes more sense then

[steady sail]

even if the game implemented it in a good way

[unkempt lake]

I can see how you may struggle a bit in some stuff

[balmy vector]

Looking at you TAA

[unkempt lake]

You know what's better than RT tho

Good HDR

[frozen ingot]

some of the cyberpunk RT mods are damn near photo realistic in how the lighting behaves

[unkempt lake]

On a quality HDR monitor

[frozen ingot]

looks absolutely insane on an oled

[umbral heron]

TAA is a straight up mistake

[unkempt lake]

That is real hdr and not the cheapo crap

[unkempt lake]

I don't have an OLED but my Neo G9 mini led looks amazing with hdr

[distant tapir]

When people talk about how epic Cpunk looks and yet all I see is motion artifacts and heavy blur.

[steady sail]

i mean most monitors are using HDR10 anyway

[unkempt lake]

fake hdr

[balmy vector]

Only epic in a static form

[hasty thunder]

HDR10 is fake HDR

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFx8xXfwAA4

not that much blur in here

[umbral heron]

Oh, ok, alright, we're starting monitor talk

https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-spongebob-imma-head-out-ima-head-out-gif-14902967

[frozen ingot]

not much in the way of gameplay either but you can't tell me those outdoor scenes doesn't look impressive

[unkempt lake]

@umbral heron we can talk about how much we love monster hunter instead

in our little corner

I brought cookies

[balmy vector]

Then thatd be #🎮│game

[unkempt lake]

None of yall want my cookies

I see how it is

They're made with LOVE not poison

[balmy vector]

You didnt even say what kind they are

[umbral heron]

I can't cookies, I must lose weight again

[hasty thunder]

HDR400 is where HDR begins to be the real deal, but then again, stuff like Windows HDR is bullshit on these monitos. All it does is making the monitor darker while running white pixels at its full brightness

at least from my experience

[unkempt lake]

Just chew on them like gum

XD

[hasty thunder]

it's especially obvious when you record a game that's not supporting HDR naturally. Restoring it to some natural colors is nearly impossible

[umbral heron]

I have gum for that
And I try to limit the meat and processed foods heavily

[unkempt lake]

Well you gum ain't cookie dough flavored!

[hasty thunder]

but... Pelmeni and Cheboreki and...

[distant tapir]

I can play Cpunk at pretty high settings and high rt and still like the performance.

[hasty thunder]

[umbral heron]

Lime'n'ginger

[frozen ingot]

just eat what you like but avoid eating too much, its as simple as that

[unkempt lake]

Ok that sound decent

[frozen ingot]

life's too short to deny oneself your favourites, yolo and all that

[unkempt lake]

That's what i do

Portionning + it lasts longer

You get to enjoy it more

[distant tapir]

Oh, ok, alright, we're starting food talk

https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-spongebob-imma-head-out-ima-head-out-gif-14902967

[umbral heron]

Sure, when I lose like 5 kilos and my weight stabilizes again

[ashen spindle]

hdr10 isnt on scale like hdr400 it just means its a 10bit color standard

[hasty thunder]

i mean there isn't much to know about HDR. 10 is fake, 400 is where it starts to be real HDR, Windows HDR sucks

[ashen spindle]

hdr400 talks about brightness

and then there is hdr true black 400 and stuff thats newer

[balmy vector]

Destiny 2 has nice hdr

[hasty thunder]

i'd guess Vesa certified HDR400 is fine?

[frozen ingot]

shame its still destiny 2

[ashen spindle]

hdr400 and hdr600 are not great hdr1000 for the non true black is what you want

[unkempt lake]

Msi be like lets release beta bios after beta bios

[umbral heron]

[hasty thunder]

Watched the review about their newest 4.7k prebuild?

[unkempt lake]

Nope but send it i'll take a look

[hasty thunder]

it's one of the worst prebuilds GN ever had

[unkempt lake]

I'm curious

Damn

[frozen ingot]

for some reason my cpu won't boost all the way to 5.45ghz, it stays around 5.2 when pushed to 100%

[hasty thunder]

https://youtu.be/Gqm4V-8F-7k

[frozen ingot]

do I have to overvolt it or

[hasty thunder]

i mean the thumbnail says it all already

120mm AiO for a 14900k, 240mm AiO for a 4090 with dry VRAM thermal pads, no Mosfet cooling, etc.

msi really blowed it out the water, literally

oh and 1 fan of the 240mm AiO for the GPU is bound to CPU temps

Best part? You can't program it to be focused on GPU temps

[pale sigil]

i miss being in the eu

[hasty thunder]

rip

[pale sigil]

i miss 2 year warranty

[unkempt lake]

My brother bought an MSI prebuilt a few years back 11900k + 3080 which he completely overpaid for after refusing my help because he's got a massive ego. Too big of an ego to get help from his big sister as usual, he had thermal throttling issues for years. He finally accepted my help to get a new m.2 into his rig and i checked his thermal paste... there was none

So honestly im not surprised

[hasty thunder]

actually at LEAST 3 years for electronics

[pale sigil]

EU is 2 min isn't it

not 3?

[hasty thunder]

it's 3

[unkempt lake]

Like guys check this out

This is ridiculous

It ran at 90c from the moment he got the thing back then

[unkempt lake]

no one saw my message ):

[pale sigil]

wasn't that i9 horendious

[dull hollow]

how did this not blow up

[unkempt lake]

Yes and he completely overpaid for it

[hasty thunder]

[steady sail]

but its actually true LOL

[pale sigil]

i meant that its always been a portable heater

[hasty thunder]

[unkempt lake]

It would "shut off randomly" at times

[hasty thunder]

you don't notice if acceleration is on or off?

[unkempt lake]

I offered to take a look but he'd never let me

[dull hollow]

[steady sail]

if the polling rate is at 125 or 1000

[unkempt lake]

But now he needed more storage and he was like fine cuz he didn't have a choice

Literally woulda kept it like this if it wasn't for that

[lyric hatch]

As soon as I booted up satisfactory I knew something was up with my mouse

[hasty thunder]

at any polling rate the acceleration is obviously noticeable

[unkempt lake]

He hates when i help him

big ego

[steady sail]

[unkempt lake]

Would rather leave something broken than have me help him

[hasty thunder]

caught by surprise with the built-in acceleration?

[unkempt lake]

His loss xd

[dull hollow]

i miss my pc being a heater fr

[lyric hatch]

Yup

Turned that off immediately

[hasty thunder]

wanna buy mine?

[steady sail]

or mine than i have a reason to get an NVME ssd

[hasty thunder]

heats the room quite well when pressed

[hasty thunder]

i thought my new Sora v2 was broken or something until i checked the settings

Who in his right mind adds a built-in acceleration in their game?

[dull hollow]

i also have a very slight bottleneck

gpu runs at 100% and cpu runs 20-35% 💀

[hasty thunder]

that's basically in any game there is

[lyric hatch]

Pretty standard games don't utilize all your cpus cores

[hasty thunder]

well, some are CPU heavy, some are GPU heavy. There are only a handful of games which utilize both

[dull hollow]

maybe its because i havent checked much games recently

only started to when i upgraded cpu

[lyric hatch]

Flight sim is pretty good from what I hear

[dull hollow]

im not a plane nerd but i do find those plane incident-documentary type videos on youtube interesting

[hasty thunder]

i mean my 5800X3D is pretty bored with most games while my 6800XT screams for help. The only games that go ham on my CPU are games like Civ6

It's really no surprise that the CPU most of the time is under utilized. One of the rare cases with a decent balance is BG3

[dull hollow]

i do play val/cs regularly but i also play ow2/apex/assetto a lot more often

so a gpu would probably be what i would want to look at

[hasty thunder]

none of them go heavy on the CPU

[umbral heron]

My CPU

When working: 30~50%
When gaming: 1~4%

[dull hollow]

50 series gpu when

[hasty thunder]

Roblox doesn't count as a game

[hasty thunder]

either shortly before holidays or after

but most likely after at around February/March

[dull hollow]

3080 tis are going for a little under 600 atm

[hasty thunder]

i mean we just got the specs leaked for the 5080 and 90, which is quite late for a holidays launch

[lyric hatch]

Time for a full pc upgrade me thinks once the new x3d and 5000 series come out

[hasty thunder]

unless nVidia really doesn't want people to know and severely punishes anyone who's leaking infos

[unkempt lake]

If you were curious he had paid 3400cad for the prebuilt in 2022

Completely overpriced even for the time

[dull hollow]

how does a 3080 ti compare to a 4070ti super

[unkempt lake]

I told him it was dumbdumb

[dull hollow]

its ~100 more for the 4070 (ebay listings)

[unkempt lake]

And msi couldn't even put paste in right for that price

[steady sail]

fine temps for me

[hasty thunder]

throws my 6800XT at 1.05 vCore in the ring
Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight we're going to see a fight between 2 distinguished gentlemen

[umbral heron]

If it doesn't for you you must have a pretty cool job

[unkempt lake]

It's a game for embryos

[hasty thunder]

go and play Forza Horizon 5. Climb THE TOWER

[unkempt lake]

If an adult plays roblox im scared ):

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-fbiopenup-carlwhitman-gif-19586039

[hasty thunder]

call the FBI

2 idiots, 1 mind

[distant tapir]

Roblox branched out a lot. There are 18+ games on it.

[dull hollow]

ive met a few people thats over 20 on the game but it depends on the game youre playing ig

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-IASC52MWw i mean roblox can look good LOL

[distant tapir]

Marvel games are way more childish than Roblox.

[steady sail]

i wouldnt tell the difference if the roblox logo wasnt there

[unkempt lake]

Wtf

[steady sail]

yeah thats a game in roblox

[unkempt lake]

Yeah that's not what my memories are of roblox

[hasty thunder]

well, it's a fan project and not even close to its completion, but it is a real thing apparently

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-forces-braindead-roblox-roblox-games-gif-26513897

[lyric hatch]

About 10-15% better on the 4070 ti super from what I see

[unkempt lake]

But i remember learning LUA through roblox as a kid

Making little scripts

When i was like... 12?

[solemn remnant]

that's cool

[hasty thunder]

Now i see who's responsible for all the Cheat Engine scripts

[dull hollow]

i tried this, it was pretty poorly optomized but for what it is, it looked pretty good

[hasty thunder]

[unkempt lake]

It was a fun intro

[steady sail]

i mean thats the engine

[unkempt lake]

👀

[dull hollow]

so many roblox games wouldve been good if it wasnt roblox

[steady sail]

yeah

or they just update their engine

[dull hollow]

like what is even Ogre engine

theyre gonna end up calling it Roblox2

[steady sail]

it is called OGRE

and its 10 years old

and they did that game with that engine

[pale sigil]

lame

why no free adp outside of us

[dull hollow]

this is juicy

[fathom spruce]

Radeon might be juicer and CHEAPER if i am not wrong the 7800xt comes in the same price range and is better . But i am not sure

[steady sail]

the 4070 Ti Super is better than the 7800 xt

[dull hollow]

its more like modding certain games, AMD doesnt have as much support

[fathom spruce]

Kinda true ngl

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/tdLpQomp6DI

RealTime is finally merged to Linux

[steady sail]

like a lil bit

[fathom spruce]

I told you i am unsure

[steady sail]

thats fine

[fathom spruce]

Yeah

[fathom spruce]

How tf it beats 3090

Bruh

[hasty thunder]

I wouldn't bid on stuff with stock pictures. Could be a scam

[dull hollow]

oh, im not planning on buying anything rn, just browsing

[steady sail]

i mean thats why im looking forward to get the 7900 gre i just want raw performance

[fathom spruce]

My friend buyed once a motherboard with stock picture and they send him an paper and a picture of this motherboard on it

😂

I felt bad but at the same time i was laughing so hard

He was hyped to build his pc that day

I helped him out and i gave him some money for new mobo

[hasty thunder]

you can buy reviews for as cheap as 5€ for 100 positive ones and you can also ask ebay to delete the bad ones.
I'm always reading the reviews first and if they're written badly i'm avoiding these sellers

[steady sail]

as 4070 ti super is waaay to expensive and out of question

• i cant use any cards with 3 fans

[dull hollow]

maybe when 50 series itll go down another 100

for new cards on ebay

[fathom spruce]

When 50series are dropping

?

[steady sail]

next year

[dull hollow]

probably early next year

[fathom spruce]

God damn so ill get my machine cheaper when ill have money

[dull hollow]

istg why is downloading anywhere other than steam limited to 10mb/s

[hasty thunder]

Highly doubt many people upgrade from a 4070 Ti super to a 5080 or 5090 to begin with. Many people prefer the low to mid range instead of buying into the higher end of things

[fathom spruce]

Steam download is broken. I got 500mb per second speed test but i can download max 30mb/s on steam

[hasty thunder]

the xx80 stuff was usually considered enthusiast level and xx90? That's like those people who can shit money and want the best shit

[dull hollow]

thats not how it works and i dont remember how it does either

i saw a video about that topic

[hasty thunder]

these speed tests are a short time test, so it's just a burst of data to test with, which is highly optimized to begin with

and not only that, these speed tests usually route you to the closest server too

[ashen spindle]

dont mix up bit and byte, if and isp tells you you get a 1gigabit download you can see a max of 125megabyte/s on steam or anything else

[hasty thunder]

to check on your ISP contract these tests are fine, but for any real environment tests they're bullshit

@dull hollow check your steam settings. Maybe you've limited your download rate or are downloading from a server that's currently struggling

[steady sail]

@dull hollow where are u from tho ?

[dull hollow]

not downloading on steam, downloading from ubisoft

[hasty thunder]

oh, ok, gl

[steady sail]

oh yeah gl

[dull hollow]

big apple city

us

ny

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/IJI0CgOGyY0

dont touch the camera capture button while trying to use the touchscreen

[dull hollow]

\

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[wheat plume]

OOOOO can run MacOS in docker containers :D

[fair gull]

"near native performance" i somehow doubt that having tried to run macos in quite a few ways

[distant tapir]

What do the mouse nerds here think about the customisable wireless mouse recenetly featurdd on Optimum's channel?

[north tide]

could be cool, not gonna pay $200 on a maybe

[distant tapir]

I wish someone made a high performance vertical mouse.

[wheat plume]

Just saw an AI powered baby stroller
That can drive itself so you don't have to ...

But it only drives itself when there's no baby inside
And it starts at $3700 ...
So why????

[solemn remnant]

well this makes sense because when the baby is in they're the one driving

[wheat plume]

Y'all wanna spend almost 5 grand on binoculars that use AI to identify up to 8000 species of bird?

[unkempt lake]

Could also read a book!

Or use google!

[solemn remnant]

that's insensitive

[wheat plume]

Facts

[iron wave]

I sear XML is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of programming.

I'm attempting to create an Android program and I added a button to the main Activity:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<androidx.constraintlayout.widget.ConstraintLayout xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android"
    xmlns:app="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res-auto"
    xmlns:tools="http://schemas.android.com/tools"
    android:id="@+id/main"
    android:layout_width="match_parent"
    android:layout_height="match_parent"
    tools:context=".MainActivity">

    <Button
        android:id="@+id/button"
        android:layout_width="wrap_content"
        android:layout_height="wrap_content"
        android:text="Button"
        app:layout_constraintStart_toStartOf="parent"
        app:layout_constraintTop_toTopOf="parent" />
</androidx.constraintlayout.widget.ConstraintLayout>

The problem is, it doesn't show up on the device at all. My onCreate method does not throw an exception from doing something stupid like derefing a null pointer and it successfully finds the button by the ID and sets the tap callback.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?

[wheat plume]

You need to declare each element you add into the XML at the top of the code for that activity and also add them to the constructor

[iron wave]

?

It's in the XML and what constructor?

[wheat plume]

Change the button ID to something identifiable in the XML you sent

Then go to the top of the code and type out "Button <button id>;"

[iron wave]

That's not a constructor and findViewById(R.id.button) finds it just fine.

[wheat plume]

You need to do something like this

[iron wave]

I am though, that's the thing. The activity shows up with the label on the top and I can interact with the button using code, it just doesn't show up.

I.E.

@Override
protected void onCreate(Bundle bundle) {
    super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
    EdgeToEdge.enable(this);
    setContentView(R.layout.activity_main);
    ViewCompat.setOnApplyWindowInsetsListener(findViewById(R.id.main), (v, insets) -> {
        Insets systemBars = insets.getInsets(WindowInsetsCompat.Type.systemBars());
        v.setPadding(systemBars.left, systemBars.top, systemBars.right, systemBars.bottom);
        return insets;
    });

    Button button = findViewById(R.id.button);
    button.addOnClickListener((view) -> {
        Log.i("CB", "Tapped!");
    });
    new Thread(() -> {
        try {
            Thread.sleep(1000);
        } catch(InterruptedException ignored) {}
        runOnUiThread(button::callOnClick);
    ).start();
}

[wheat plume]

Stupid idea
But maybe you need to set it to visible in the XML properties

[iron wave]

No change.

[wheat plume]

Or in the code in on create()?

button.setVisibility(View.VISIBLE);

[iron wave]

I did try that one already. Man, Android is just cursed.

[wheat plume]

Yeh .....
I did pretty well in that class tbh
But mostly cause I already knew Java and I restarted if shit went wrong with the XML

[wheat plume]

Did you set the project to use Java or Kotlin ?

[iron wave]

Java of course.

I'm messing with the P2P Wi-Fi junk and apparently my neighbors have stuff that supports it.

DIRECT-92-HP Smart Tank Plus 550

I could maybe print to their printer?

Got to print a page with a vague expiration date.

[ashen spindle]

Write a page that says I'm here to fax you about your cars extended warranty

[iron wave]

The developer website is super broken. 😔

I'm going to have to do some research into doing custom services for this.

I hate that my code works minus the button not showing up. .-.

Doesn't look too bad: https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/wifi/nsd-wifi-direct#java

I'll be doing this later.

No, I'm not going to use that lying machine.

Everything I was able to find online was about the constraints not being set.

[wheat plume]

I love how HP upside down just says DY

[iron wave]

HP Stream laptop?

[wheat plume]

Yep xd

[iron wave]

I get a lot of those at work.

[sudden imp]

Will Linux Arch try to push out more features to gain market share now that valve is funding them

[iron wave]

AARCH64 when?

[scarlet jackal]

Which province are you from?

I'm with Freedom they are mainly Ontario based. I went in store to get the deal I got and had discounts because multiple family members on plan.

They weren't the best before and still don't have the best reputation now, but ever since they were bought by Videotron (a Quebec company trying to expand to the Ontario market) the coverage has actually been really great

[scarlet jackal]

Try to see what you can do because I had to wiggle myself into that deal, it is a lease so if you want phone at the end of 2 years you do have to pay the remainder of the phone.

For the 16 Pro you need a 55$/month plan and then it's 29$/month for the phone, but if you're willing to pay 200$ upfront (like I did) you can go for the lower options like the 50gb at 35$/month one. If you do the math at the end of the year you will save more money that way if 50gb is more than enough for you (it is for me)

There's a bit of bullshit, there's a 5$/month credit for 18 months so it'll go up 5$ more for the last 6 months (For every plan even if you bring your own phone) calling and changing plans worked for me despite being an active subscriber.

In store you also have to pay the 45$ connection fee and they automatically put you on an insurance you have to cancel after the first month.

But over the same plan Bell was giving me for 120$/month ON A LEASE, I was fine with dealing with all that

IDK if this is a standard now, but they also offer Canada/US/Mexico data coverage on all their plans

Yeahhh in my experience Rogers/Fido/Telus have not been that great with most people I know. Only people with good Roger deals work for companies that provide a company plan.

Bell had been decent when I visited them a few months ago, I almost bit the dust on a 15 Pro with them, Virgin also has very decent deal being the more "budget friendly" child company of Bell.

They just ask for an upfront if you want a lower plan, I paid debit it wasn't billed on my monthly bills

Doesn't seem like ill get it back

[sage hazel]

if i have 3 sticks of ram, should i put them in slot 1,2,3 ?

is it okay if i put in a different brand ram stick? its the same 8gb and 3200mhz

[unkempt lake]

Fizz also is really good for the price in Quebec it's owned by videotron

[atomic dragon]

Chat do I upgrade to a 4090 or upgrade my phone to a Sammy S24 Ultra

[sage hazel]

4090

[cosmic thunder]

what's your phone

[gray gazelle]

there is something better with the same characteristics?

[gray gazelle]

Hello, a mouse for 80 euros (80 thousand Argentine pesos more or less) for clawgrip and another for palm grip? I need two, for palm they told me the pulsar x2h

[gusty nexus]

I use the cooler master mm720 which is really good but it's from 2020 😅

[crisp axle]

palm grip x2h is news to me

it depends on hand size

scyrox v8 is a good x2h "clone"

I wouldn't go with just that

rjn doesn't have all the new ones

he mainly covers "mainstream" brands

I disagree but sure

he doesn't have the budget go-to mice, which is relevant here with 80 eur budget

anyways for claw grip, scyrox v8, vxe mad r major (has qc issues sometimes), atk f1 ultimate might be good too

scyrox is a subbrand of lamzu

[late grove]

I wish RJN would update his list. It's getting pretty old now.

[slender frigate]

170 bucks is a steal for an 240hz monitor 😮

only downside, is that its 24 inch, if u care abt that

I think imma get that damn ;D

[frozen ingot]

and 1080p*

[still tundra]

i have the 180hz version of that monitor; it costs 350 dollars here in south africa

and the really high end 700 dollar stuff has 1100 dollar shipping lol

[slender frigate]

@frozen ingot those type of monitors are for competetive players mostly so 1080p isnt that big of a deal

[gray gazelle]

depends, beacause is different in € that in dollars

i only saying if there is something better

[rough osprey]

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finally

[steep creek]

guessing these will still be for sale in 10 years when my gen 1 stops working

[ashen spindle]

chromax version planned for q1 too which is nice

so black fans for everyone hating brown

[steep creek]

nice

[rough patrol]

Smh

They should wait 5 years for black fans

If you cant handle noctua brown you are WEAK

[steep creek]

i like the brown ngl, my case fans are all brown ones haha

[frozen ingot]

only $99 a pop?

[rough patrol]

Only reason i dont have brown noctua fans is $$$

[frozen ingot]

same they're great quality and everything but too ricc for my blood

you can get pretty comparable performance for a lot less

[ashen spindle]

#🔧│keyboard_modding will be of better help for that

[delicate comet]

Sorry! will go there right away

[reef patrol]

Not at all. It's just where the folks who mod hang out 😄

[sudden imp]

I wonder if you can daisy chain them like the t30s

[molten lotus]

i mean it does have slight ghosting issues and isn’t the best quality monitor

but for the price it’s good

[slender frigate]

This one looks good too imo

220 bucks

my little brother has it tho

and hes immortal 3 in Valorant xD

[molten lotus]

this one is better

depends on whether you want to spend the extra

[slender frigate]

i think imma get the Asus one tho

im still using an 144hz monitor smh

@molten lotus This one looks even better

and has 280hz even

with 27 inch

[molten lotus]

check reviews

i have an aoc monitor and it’s fine for me (240hz) but i’ve never had anything else similar to compare it to

[slender frigate]

All positive, I use an AOC monitor rn which is 144hz as I said, and I think its actually an big step in the right direction

[wheat plume]

New shell dialogue and file picker on Gnome 47!

They both look great

[slender frigate]

wat dis

[wheat plume]

Gnome 47

It's a Linux desktop

[slender frigate]

ahh

im windows fanboy

[wheat plume]

I'm testing the beta version... Is goood

[slender frigate]

Looks alot better than windows 11 tho

[wheat plume]

Yeh
Gnome is gorgeous 💜

I really love the minimal approach to UI design

[slender frigate]

Windows 12 needs to look this good man i wish

[wheat plume]

I changed the icon theme in the light mode images
But yah
This is the file manager

So this is gnome desktop version of file explorer

[wheat plume]

It can't....
They need to have all the old shit on there too for backwards compatibility

So it could get a new theme for system apps and desktop shell
But older dialogs will still look old
Like how there is that mismatch in 11 still

I love papirus icons 😍

Especially the ones for file types

[slender frigate]

At first I thought its from an MacOS or something

but damn the clean icons

[wheat plume]

It does copy some UI design from MacOS
Mainly that the title bars include buttons related to the app

[slender frigate]

lets hope for no lawsuit lmao

[wheat plume]

Sadly GSconnect isn't updated for 47
To send these images I need to connect my phone with cable

[slender frigate]

companies dont like copies from their stuff

cough cough nintendo suing palword

[wheat plume]

It's not similar enough
And Apple didn't patent that header style

[raw zephyr]

does gnome support vrr on wayland already?

[wheat plume]

Not yet
But Bazzite includes the patch for it
So if you use the gnome build of Bazzite, you'll have it!

I think the plasma build of Bazzite has it too but I haven't used that one cause I prefer gnome

Gnome hasn't officially implemented VRR yet cause they are still arguing about how the settings for it will look in the settings pane ......
They can't decide on a UI design for it .-.

I can confirm it works very well on Bazzite
And it shows the range that VRR is active for too
For my monitor it shows (60 - 165)

[old marlin]

[cobalt adder]

do you need to lube the beam between stabilizers aswell?

[reef patrol]

The metal wire? Only where they touch the stabilizer housing.

[cobalt adder]

okay

because i was checking why the space bar sounds clicky sometimes

I guess its not the lube then

[umbral heron]

Ship already

[steady sail]

what about no ?

[umbral heron]

But I wan

Don't be a meanie Akko

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

[steady sail]

my gpu is getting more and more expensive

i guess no gpu for me

[raw zephyr]

wait for 5090 😅

[steady sail]

i dont need that

im good with AMD gpu's

[raw zephyr]

which one do you want to get?

[steady sail]

7900 gre

[raw zephyr]

mmm so it's like a cut down version of the xtx?

[steady sail]

its the actuall 7800 xt

[raw zephyr]

i see, well depends on your os to be fair, i had terrible experience using my 7900xtx on windows

[old marlin]

nvidia discontinuing the 4090 pre launch is a bad sign imo

[steady sail]

[raw zephyr]

it is yeah

[ashen spindle]

what where do you see them discontinuing the 4090 being bad

[frozen ingot]

heard this as well

[ashen spindle]

no I mean that it's a bad sign, that's how every gpu gen has been, stop production to a minimum and ramp the next

regardless of how good or bad the next gen is

[raw zephyr]

i believe it's mostly been a rumour, i don't believe it has been confirmed yet

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah you will never get full confirmation of it

but it's been the same the alst 2 gens and amd had to struggle a lot with oversupplied stock due to let down in demand after mining and such

[raw zephyr]

but it's weird that 5000 series are not announced yet and they are supposed to cease production of previous models already

[ashen spindle]

no because ceasing production doesnt mean it stops that day

getting a wafer from start to finish alone takes like 2-3 months

[raw zephyr]

mhm yeah fair

[ashen spindle]

so if today they make the last wafer for main suppply, that means in 2-3 months its ready to be packaged and then put onto a pcb for gpus

so wafer start today would mean the product ends up on shelf in like january

[scenic thunder]

because they're pulling the plugs out of the gaming division and plugging them into the AI data center/research socket. The shift isint from one gen to the next, it's from one consumer branch to another.

[ashen spindle]

yeah no that isnt happening

[solemn remnant]

ahh

[scenic thunder]

Nvidia has literally said they're focusing on AI over gaming, not sure what you mean lol

[umbral heron]

Wafers?

[ashen spindle]

you do understand if they dont make consumer cards then people would start making all the ai stuff on amd/intel and never learn cuda so then when they get hired to a data center they would want to not use nvidia?

[marsh glade]

It would be a significant upset for NVidia to exit the gaming market space, but it's not entirely inconceivable

[scenic thunder]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-said-no-longer-graphics-company/

[ashen spindle]

of course they are focusing on it but they arent going to close a market where they have like >50% profit margins and use it as a building stone to get people entrenched into their garden

[scenic thunder]

Literally nvidia VP

But ok lol

I guess call the VP of marketing a liar

[ashen spindle]

I'm not calling him a liar I'm calling you someone who doesnt understand what they mean with that

[umbral heron]

Just like AMD is now software company

[marsh glade]

Focusing on AI is not the same as exiting the gaming market

[ashen spindle]

so they will make AI-RTX cards or whatever and gaming is the lower side at best

[scenic thunder]

I'm not saying they're EXITING the gaming market, i'm saying they're moving the focus to where the money is. You guys are saying EXIT like they're going to stop making consumer cards all together

[reef patrol]

I mean... kind of 😄

[ashen spindle]

but you literally said they are exiting

[steady sail]

ah yes i want my NVIDIA GeForce AI-RTX 5090 TI

[scenic thunder]

You might need to learn how to read my friend, i said pulling plugs, not exiting.

You can pull a plug out of something and there still be plugs left lol

Very much not literally

[ashen spindle]

so they reduce spending?

[reef patrol]

That's not how that term works in English, friend.

[ashen spindle]

but that changes nothing and isnt how these words are used

[scenic thunder]

They're ramping down production

[umbral heron]

[reef patrol]

To cease. Not cut down on.

[marsh glade]

Instructions unclear, pulled the plug from grandpa

[scenic thunder]

I literally didn't use the idiom "pulling the plug", i said "pulling plugs and moving them to AI" as in moving resources

[solemn remnant]

what does pulling plugs mean then

[reef patrol]

Trying to invent new idioms isn't going to save your massive L. Just saying.

[solemn remnant]

it's almost like it's implied that it refers to.. pulling the plug

[scenic thunder]

I'm not inventing an idiom, im literally saying moving resoruces

[ashen spindle]

you did in fact not literally say that

[scenic thunder]

If you have 5 100 gig cables going into one server and move 3 of them to a different server for bandwith, you've moved capacity

My job literally deals with this real life situation, i dont know what to tell yall

[reef patrol]

Sure - But you would never refer to that as "pulling plugs" in a conversation that doesn't involve literal plugs.

[raw zephyr]

[ashen spindle]

arguing semantics aside, that changes nothing that what nvidia is doing since it's the exact same thing they did with teh 20th and 30th gen cards

they stopped making the 3090 before 40 series released

they stopped 2080ti production before 30 series came around

and neither times was related to AI

now it's the exact same

[reef patrol]

I do wonder if they're going to be pushing as hard with new specs, now that AMD have basically said they won't do high end GPUs going forward.

[raw zephyr]

i really wonder when are we seeing 5000 series being launched

[ashen spindle]

you ramp down production to make the newer model not keep the current version in stock and collect dust, that's basic production 101

[steady sail]

if rumors are true early 2025 for ngreedia 5000 series

[raw zephyr]

the cards haven't been officially launched yet right?

[ashen spindle]

currently CES seems likely for all 3 vendors

[raw zephyr]

or announced rather

[ashen spindle]

nothing public from any yet

[balmy vector]

Frame generation 2, temporal boogaloo

[slender frigate]

better than AMDoodle

[steady sail]

in what ?

[slender frigate]

DLSS, Frame Generation, Raytracing

[steady sail]

i dont do content

i dont care about ray shit

pointless overall

[slender frigate]

[ashen spindle]

akshually! FSR frame gen is superior to dlss FG because it takes less render time

(but either frame gen is still shit to me)

[balmy vector]

Agreed, frame gen is still quite bleh

[slender frigate]

Nvidia is still the best tho

nobody is really hyped for a new AMD gpu

[steady sail]

i am tho

[slender frigate]

but alot of ppl are for the 5000 series

[ashen spindle]

it's silly calling either option the best when aside from the 4090 that purely depends on you local pricing of the options

[balmy vector]

[ashen spindle]

and most people dont buy a 4090

[slender frigate]

i got a 4070 Super

[steady sail]

i mean im happy if i can buy the 7900 gre

[slender frigate]

7900GRE looks interesting but imo Nvidia has the better things and more developed things

[ashen spindle]

those two are the same price and if RT/dlss is not a factor I'd argue nvidia isnt the best flat out

[steady sail]

i just play video games soo dont care

[ashen spindle]

it's quite close so mostly depends on local pricing which one I'd call the better option

[balmy vector]

Mhm, local pricing is a huge factor

[ashen spindle]

also always gotta keep looking at what games you play, something like RE4 or AW2 are much more important to me than cs2 performance at 1440p

[steady sail]

i mean yeah the 4070 supers are cheaper in Hungary but not with a huger price difference

nah okay they are the same price

[spare wedge]

Frame gen is fine if you have over 70fps imo

[ashen spindle]

I havent been able to like it under anything than 90 whenever I tried it

and even then depends on the game most I dislike the latency still

[spare wedge]

I can’t really feel the latency difference when using a controller

Never tried it with mouse and keyboard myself tho

[ashen spindle]

might explain it, I hate controllers, I'm so shit with them lol

still play souls games with is usually but I just die more often, when I played sekiro it was too bad and I switched to mnk and game felt 10 times easier

[spare wedge]

Yeah when it comes to single player games, I mainly use controller

[steady sail]

for me not all games are great with a controller

racing games for sure

FPS never ever

[balmy vector]

Yeah definitely a game-by-game basis

[spare wedge]

Half true

[balmy vector]

Really enjoying ff16 on controller

[spare wedge]

Some games literally have almost-cheating aim assist for controller

[balmy vector]

Does apex still have that?

[steady sail]

i think yeah

[solemn remnant]

anyone who uses aim assists in a multiplayer game even with a controller are literal fucks

[ashen spindle]

ff16 is nice on controller but also nowhere near a sekiro level difficulty

[spare wedge]

???