🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

You didnt think a CRT would be deep?

Thats a you issue xd

[umbral heron]

Oh, new CRT?
Degaussing time

[wheat plume]

Headache time 😢

If I use a CRT for more than like an hour or so, I get a bad headache from it

[umbral heron]

CRT whine is way worse
Thankfully you can get used to it in like 10 minutes or so

[distant tapir]

It takes most of my desk in depth.

[wheat plume]

no shit LOL

[distant tapir]

Shouldn't be any audible whine.

[wheat plume]

Yes there will be xd

All CRT make noise

[distant tapir]

Whine frequency is very high depending on how you drive it. Like 30 kHz+.

And I can't hear that.

[umbral heron]

CRT monitors maybe no, but CRT TVs yes, PAL TVs whine at 15kHz

Eh, as for 22" is not that thick to be honest

My 19" TV is way worse

[umbral heron]

@wheat plume After 24h of using it:
App works really nice, translation to Polish is a bit wonky, but works fine
Screen is beautiful and crisp, also detects hand movement really well (unlike my old mi Band 7)
The only pain is that there's no NFC and you can't start timer and minimize it, it has to run in the foreground and with screen turned on (which is weird, because you can do so with stopwatch )
Strap is really nice and soft and crown thingy has a satisfying haptic feedback to it

[wheat plume]

ooo I love that watch face too

hows the BT connectivity and media playback controls?

[umbral heron]

No issues with BT, media controls I haven't tried yet

[steep creek]

i like the watchface

[wheat plume]

yeh, its prettyyy

no step counter on the face though?

[umbral heron]

There are several faces with step counters on them

[wheat plume]

whats the 21?

[umbral heron]

seconds

[wheat plume]

bezel real big, but so is the one on my current watch xd

is that an AMOLED screen??

[umbral heron]

Yup, 400-something by 400-something
Looks really good even up-close

[wheat plume]

ah!

I like the screen on my watch also, the Huawei Band 8

[umbral heron]

Mi Band 7 had this annoyance where even on lowest brightness it was bright enough to blind you in the night .-.

[wheat plume]

... ah

does CMF Watch have autobrightness?

[umbral heron]

It does

[wheat plume]

ayoooo, does it work good?

[umbral heron]

Pretty well

[wheat plume]

nice nice!!

did you try the sleep monitoring yet?

[umbral heron]

Yup

[wheat plume]

2 hours...

I thought my 4 was bad 😅

[umbral heron]

I was playing Minecraft until 4 in the morning

[wheat plume]

oh my

[distant tapir]

I don't have a VGA cable so I can't use it. But then again who has a VGA cable anymore.

[umbral heron]

[wheat plume]

seems you were fully unready to get a CRT XD

[reef patrol]

every other office

[wheat plume]

^ maybe a local company could give you one

[umbral heron]

Keep in mind you won't connect GTX 10+ and R3xx+ to it, they don't have analog processing unit anymore, you need a converter
GTX 9xx was the last one with DVI-I, GTX 10xx have DVI-D only

[distant tapir]

I have a nice converter.

I'll send pictures when I get a cable and turn it on.

[umbral heron]

I still have VGA connected to Thinkcentre/proxmox node, my monitor has VGA, so why not

[distant tapir]

VGA is cool. I am a big fan of big connectors.

'member DVI?

(DVI feels more outdated than VGA for some reason)

[umbral heron]

I still use DVI to DP adapters to connect monitors to PC

[halcyon moss]

Dvi is huge

[reef patrol]

I see your silly screw in VGA cable and raise you one SCART

[halcyon moss]

Ah scart. Never a thing on pc thankfully

[distant tapir]

Those always felt so sloppy to connect for some reason. Maybe the TV we had just was too loose.

[halcyon moss]

MAnSeN is digging up a scart connector on pc now

[wheat plume]

these all speak facts

[reef patrol]

I'd be more likely to dig up some weird Mac connector cable from the 90s.

Shit was wild.

[digital cliff]

gaming's not been restricted to windows ever since proton came out

I have not had a single game I couldn't play because I'm on linux for the past 5 years of running it exclusively

it's rather the other annoyances that irk me

[wheat plume]

It is if you play Online AAA games like Fortnite and Destiny 2 and Helldivers and COD and whatnot

but yeah, everything else is golden

[umbral heron]

Helldivers works

[digital cliff]

ah I suppose, I don't play those so I never experienced it

[wheat plume]

Helldivers works?! HELL YEAH !

Apex and Overwatch 2 work also

Apex runs like crap in Proton though ;-; its a stutter fest on Deck 😢
Overwatch 2 performs AMAZING though, constant 165Hz when docked for me

[umbral heron]

Used to at the start of the season, now with patched Apex and Proton it runs nice again, stable 180FPS on PC

[wheat plume]

patched?

[umbral heron]

Well, Proton Experimental

[distant tapir]

Whenever you see these fake retro horror games with CRT and VHS filters I always think about how there are probably a ton of gen alpha out there now that believe games used to come on VHS.

[wheat plume]

Tried to play Apex on my Deck, docked to my monitor at 1080P and it barely managed 40FPS

on lowest settings...

[umbral heron]

Ah, on Deck I was happy to get 60fps on lowest possible settings on 800p

[wheat plume]

It runs ok in Handheld mode but its too small of a screen to really play the game

just cant get over how well Overwatch 2 runs but Apex runs like garbage, on the same computer xd

I just really suck at both of them...

[umbral heron]

Overwatch runs on proprietary engine designed specifically for it
Apex runs on Source patched with duct tape

[halcyon moss]

Honestly? It's been so long ago I don't remember how a snes looked in a crt tv

[wheat plume]

.....Apex is Source?!

[halcyon moss]

So.. Fast :p

[reef patrol]

Yes...

[wheat plume]

If its the same engine as Titanfall 2, it should perform extremely well on Deck like that game does

[umbral heron]

Well, with Titanfall there wasn't so much duct tape there yet

[wheat plume]

LOL

[halcyon moss]

They probably also added more demanding features / geometry

[umbral heron]

Apex has several years of constant patches and seasons in it, no wonder it works... um... yeah...
And now, when there's almost no one there from the starting team, and they focus heavily on milking this game...

[wheat plume]

EA .-.

[umbral heron]

EA can do good games, and they proved that countless times
It's just that their C-suite is greedy af

[ashen spindle]

Engine alone also doesn’t matter much for performance in the end

[umbral heron]

If it's not glued together with duct tape

[ashen spindle]

Not to mention source was hardly ever made for a mode like apex in mind

[halcyon moss]

No engine is

[ashen spindle]

Well you have cases like doom where the engine is optimized for how the game is planned to be

When you know the area sizes before you can take big optimizations if it doesn’t need to work with open world at the same time

[halcyon moss]

Eternal is a better experience than 2016 performance wise

[ashen spindle]

Yeah and the engine got some changes between xD

[umbral heron]

Ah, I still remember the unholy abomination that Raven Software did with id Tech 6 for Quake Champions in early access

[halcyon moss]

And, it doesn't look blurry at all

Super crisp

Fuck taa

[umbral heron]

Indeed

[ashen spindle]

My point was just just source being good matters little since it was an engine primary made for the games valve had in mind and a Battle royal wasn’t one of them. So just having that as a base isn’t an indicator of it the game should run well or bad

[fair gull]

yes... yes it was

[ashen spindle]

Having 100 people in an open world is vastly different from titanfall singleplayer or tiny maps with 10 Cs players

[halcyon moss]

Oops forgot about you :p

[fair gull]

my first pc had a TV tuner card with dual scart out and dual cable in

[umbral heron]

60
It'd die trying to handle 100 people

[halcyon moss]

Okok tunercards

Not graphics cards, not without weird breakout dongles

[fair gull]

oh yeah no

scart was basically exclusively TV

[wheat plume]

Google Pixel Buds Pro 2

Strange they don't color match the case too

[steep creek]

🥚 case

[wheat plume]

Yes xd

[distant tapir]

Love when the task bar sinks into the bezel.

(I'm letting it warm up a bit before adjusting these things)

[sharp badger]

Why did you get a CRT?

[distant tapir]

Because they're epic.
||Primarely motion clarity||

I love it so far.

Although I am not quite used to text being this blurry yet. It's gen 1 W-OLED on drugs.

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah for CRT you really want to turn off text antialiasing

[distant tapir]

Also feel like I have to puke. If that's because I haven't eaten anything today, the screen or a combination of both idk.

[distant tapir]

Oh yeah true. Where is that setting again?

[crimson wigeon]

Or at least make it be grayscale only instead of trying to do fancy subpixel stuff

[old marlin]

cleartype

just write that in the search bar

uncheck that box

[crimson wigeon]

I think getting grayscale text antialiasing might be preferred since all modern fonts are made with antialiasing in mind. As to how to get that on Windows? I have no idea!

[fair gull]

I see cybersecurity is still having a blast https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/07/secure-boot-is-completely-compromised-on-200-models-from-5-big-device-makers/

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

tl;dr: some manufacturers shipped private keys from test environments which were labelled DO NOT TRUST and DO NOT SHIP which got leaked and affects quite a few mainboard vendors

[reef patrol]

[crimson wigeon]

Probably they saw DO TRUST and DO SHIP

[reef patrol]

Strong Sony energy

[fair gull]

Also uh Acer,Dell,Formelife,Gigabyte,Intel,Supermicro

thats the list of vendors

funnily enough supermicro being a server mainboard vendor...

[wheat plume]

Official, no...this is a leak

but the Pixel leaks are very accurate

[steep creek]

google is funny, unveiling their own phones long before the event lol

[wheat plume]

:') You think the leaks are actually planned by Google?

With how accurate the leaks are, and the Google-like design for the images....Id not be surprised

[steep creek]

hmm at this point i have no clue

[wheat plume]

XD

its possible for sure

[steep creek]

i don’t think they care about the event date anymore lol

https://youtu.be/OMVpP-Zam1A?si=4fCqbzTLqxIKIIBo

[analog sinew]

AI AI AI! AI? AI AI.

[balmy vector]

IA?

[analog sinew]

yep first seconds are AI

[wheat plume]

I like IA

https://tenor.com/bN4M7.gif

[marsh glade]

I once performed AI on a cow

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/UFTfJnkYS8A

[pastel nacelle]

Is this mmd?

[bold coyote]

[wheat plume]

yeah, most Vocaloid videos are made with it!

[balmy vector]

Did you make the cow go oooom?

[pastel nacelle]

Mmd is fun.

I also have the PSP copy. Of the game version.

[wheat plume]

oh yeah xd

[pastel nacelle]

Sadly usa never made a port.

I had to play the game iにほんご

Things were not ぢあじょぶ

[wheat plume]

Pixel 9 color leaks :D

Strange the 9 Pro doesnt have the Mint color

[pastel nacelle]

McPixel

I have a fold

[wheat plume]

Pixel Fold?!

[pastel nacelle]

No

[wheat plume]

Oh, what one?

[pastel nacelle]

SSG Z Fold 5

[wheat plume]

oh neat!

Id love to get the Flip

I prefer that form factor than Fold maybe, unless the Fold 5 with the mostly normal ratio outer screen changes my mind

[pastel nacelle]

Its convenient when showing people pictures and not smashing my phone close to their face.

[wheat plume]

Id be too scared to get one, this house is mega dusty

I let anything with a screen sit on a table for an hour and it gets a layer of dust on it.....

[pastel nacelle]

That happends to everything

Even keebs.

[wheat plume]

yeh ;-;

[pastel nacelle]

So far Ive used the large screen at the store, drive thru restaurant, and at the post office.

Also when I have to show people at the restaurant what I want to eat.

How to prevent dead skin and dust from getting stuck to keebs.

And body oil.

[balmy vector]

Kinda impossible to stop it all, embrace it

[halcyon moss]

Clean the house :p

[wheat plume]

its cleaned very often by mom, shes addicted to mopping the floors and washing the windows....then making me mow the lawn outside despite it having rained and the grass still being soggy .-.

but hey, its her lawnmower, not my problem if the soggy grass breaks it

[pastel nacelle]

You live in a spanish household?

[wheat plume]

no

[pastel nacelle]

Ah ok then. Cultural assumption. In my style of household all the kids share the cleaning then mom yell at us xD

[wheat plume]

I spent most of my childhood summers going to the house my uncle and aunt rent to tourists cleaning it after each group left

Thats how I learned that strong artificial smells make my lips and nose feel really dry and chapped ... fucking perfumes and surface polish especially

[pastel nacelle]

xD

My mother and grandmother were addicted to candles.And scented soaps.

[wheat plume]

I used to always get given out to for not wanting to do the furniture polishing

[pastel nacelle]

I couldn't breathe in my own house

[wheat plume]

ikr.... it sucks .-.

I like nice smells, but most perfumes are horrible smelling and way too strong

[halcyon moss]

My wife is forbidden from applying perfume before or in the car

[wheat plume]

Good... xd

[pastel nacelle]

When I was younger, our householders used to smell like a retirement home hospital

When I open the pantry, I get blasted by ungodly sense.

[wheat plume]

The house we used to live in constantly smelled like cow shit and moth balls...

[pastel nacelle]

Unfortunately, the snacks were also in the same compartment as all of the cleaning supplies

[wheat plume]

....ew no

[pastel nacelle]

That's exactly this smell.

It smells like dying old people

[wheat plume]

oooff...

[pastel nacelle]

Bram, the worst I ever want to smell like when I get old is laundry detergent contin

[wheat plume]

We dont even use scented detergent here, all my clothes just smell like mildly moist air from being outside on the line to dry

[pastel nacelle]

I'm allergic to fabric, softener and hang dried clothes

, I tumble dry my linen

[wheat plume]

And my family is allergic to using the dryer

clothes we wash can take up to a week to get dry depending on how much rain we get cause we dry them outside when its not raining and have to bring them back in once it starts to rain again .-.

I always got to make sure I have a weeks worth of clothes that are clean at any particular point in time just incase we cant get the ones we washed dried quickly

the dryer in this house has been unplugged from power for the last like 5 years, its so stupid that we dont use it

[verbal obsidian]

Can someone give me the website, because idk if I have found the right one (Wooting)

[analog sinew]

wootility.io ?

[wheat plume]

https://wootility.io/

[pastel nacelle]

You guys also wash dishes by hand?

[wheat plume]

YEP .-.

[verbal obsidian]

I got this one https://wooting.io/

[pastel nacelle]

This sound like Filipino house xd

[wheat plume]

Yep, thats the store, Wootility.io is the software

[pastel nacelle]

Or Malay

[verbal obsidian]

Thank you guys. I just wanted to be sure

[wheat plume]

Is Wootabase still being updated?

[reef patrol]

The old website? No. But we're working on something new.

[wheat plume]

oo

most interesting

[urban ferry]

Ty

[verbal obsidian]

How long is the cable? Because I have my pc on the floor, I wast wondering if it will able to reach my computer from the table

[umbral heron]

2m for 80HE
1.5m for UwU
1.8m for other keyboards

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3hgpRy4n0U

[wheat plume]

Ayooo, TechDweeb and ETA Prime are both making videos of this!!!

Love to see it :D

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJs6fIS4Pg
Beating Lana to post this inevitably somehow.

[wheat plume]

o.o I hate it, thanks

[tepid vale]

P8 & 8pro just so much prettier imho

[cursive saddle]

until something goes wrong... then ur screwed

[wheat plume]

huh?

Is ASUS customer support still shit?

[slow trench]

Anyone tried any beast x mouse? the two im looking at are Fabulous beast x Vs Beast x 8k

[wheat plume]

Mouse names are really cringe xd

Glorious, Fabulous Beast, Beast X ....

Sharkoon..

[halcyon moss]

Sharkoon is oldschool

[gusty kiln]

https://wccftech.com/asrock-x600tm-itx-thin-mini-itx-motherboard-amd-ryzen-9000-cpus-support/

[pastel nacelle]

Bing bong, yee hee

[haughty garden]

my wooting is not being detected by my pc. i tried to update it earlier because i have not used it in roughly a month and i might have abruptly stopped it in the process. the rgb turned off and my pc cannot detect it when plugged in. i tried to nuke it but it didnt help

[reef patrol]

Make a thread over in #1019755933959733258 🙂

[marsh pewter]

yummy

[chrome estuary]

Jesus Christ by all the gods in hell that thing is microscopic

[viral edge]

does the uwu keypad come with a usb C to usb A wire?

[umbral heron]

It does, with 1.5m one

[north tide]

new mobo for the 4090 to plug into

[viral edge]

if i had to get an adapter for the usb A part to usb C cause im out of ports which adapter would you recommend?

[chrome estuary]

wtf

[reef patrol]

More like a Motherboard to plug INTO the 4090 😄

A veritable daughterboard.

[north tide]

They come for Asus' throne

[chrome estuary]

jesus

[north tide]

love these

[pastel nacelle]

looks like my pc with the case taken off xD

but i has founders

Next GPU might as well come with a CPU Slot.

and a flat ram

[fair gull]

you mean a new mobo to plug onto the 4090

[subtle crescent]

yo can someone rate mysetup out of ten

[pastel nacelle]

why the screen so big

[subtle crescent]

i bought it from microcenter

[fair gull]

the question isnt why big its why so close

[pastel nacelle]

agreed

spacing is important so you can see the whole screen while gaming

for me i like to see my status bars within view

[subtle crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872694941204226078/1266529085941874739/IMG_2041.png?ex=66a57aa1&is=66a42921&hm=edce0ca6c8feafd23bffd7a277a221b78a4cae5c521908e3842e4ec04c054306&

it's so close from falling off

[steep creek]

maybe a monitor arm would be nice

[fair gull]

more for posture and eye health

[pastel nacelle]

run with it or yeah get a monitor arm.

[pastel nacelle]

i lean back in my setup idk if thats good for posture xD

[subtle crescent]

My monitor too heavy!!!!

[pastel nacelle]

is your rig in the middle of your gaming space?

[subtle crescent]

Oh yeah

The Island 🔥🔥🔥

[pastel nacelle]

Run it as is then for a hot minute

[subtle crescent]

I've been having this shii here for 2 years 😭

[pastel nacelle]

if you can see everything while gaming your good i guess.

for me that would be a lot of eye strain

I just broad cast to my tv if i wanna watch stuff

i'd get a wider base monitor clamp and go for arms to reposition the monitors better.

[subtle crescent]

this was an old pic of my setup lowkey kinda tuff but monitor was always close

[pastel nacelle]

load the desk with heavy stuff

[subtle crescent]

my desk is so ass

[pastel nacelle]

hardware store + wood screws

and spray paint

[subtle crescent]

Never liked it from day one

Ima get a solid wood one instead

[pastel nacelle]

only do that if you plan on not moving it lmao

[subtle crescent]

I might 😭

[pastel nacelle]

better fiber board would be an up.

at the price of desks right now

i justified making one

[subtle crescent]

i was about to say that

i could probably go to the woods type shii

[pastel nacelle]

2 options to save money is A- go diy B- look at classifieds for desks.

[subtle crescent]

@pastel nacelle i wanna ask you

lowkey i was kinda trolling in the first image but the suggestions fire

😭

i'd rather go diy because i can quality control it

[pastel nacelle]

angle your screws so your new desk doesnt wobble

[subtle crescent]

?

[pastel nacelle]

if your gonna diy. my dumb mistake was plunging wood screws straight down where i was connecting wood.

[subtle crescent]

from the stands?

[pastel nacelle]

table legs yeah

[subtle crescent]

ok

[pastel nacelle]

if you need ideas theres a bunch of diy builds under 200 in hardware on youtube.

cheapest and quickest is to buy the table top cut from MDF in the size you need and like 30 feet of 2x4

[subtle crescent]

tbh i'd just prefer any solid wood desk over this junk

dont care if i need to spend more

[pastel nacelle]

take a look at diy videos then

2x4 in bulk would run you less than 100 bucks

[swift wadi]

Anyone know where I can get an artisan zero been looking for a new mousepad

[whole axle]

https://jpgamingusa.com/

[swift wadi]

Thankss!

[quaint dew]

have a look at the lgg saturn pro

[swift wadi]

What’s your opinion on it?

Cause tbh I was between the Xraypad because I prefer larger pads but I’ve heard a lot of good things about artisan

[quaint dew]

i dont own either but pretty much everyone i know who has used that and the artisan zero says the lgg is either the same or better

xraypad is a great budget option

the lgg saturn pro is the mousepad im buying when i build my setup

[whole axle]

Saturn pro

type 99

and aqua 2 or sum?

those are really good control pads

[swift wadi]

Budget isn’t my biggest concern but it’s a plus

[swift wadi]

I’ll look at both

[whole axle]

i just got the type99

best control pad by far

but rn the restocking is a little bad

so you would have to wait

if you want rn

saturn pro for sure

[swift wadi]

I’ll try it out if the type99 isn’t in stock I’ll just wait a bit or get the aqua 2

[whole axle]

def worth the wait trust

[swift wadi]

Alright thanks

[whole axle]

check dms whenever btw

[distant tapir]

Just ordered the Endgame Gear OP1 8k.

Now I just need a Wooting.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096342963703005274/1264968509545512960/grata.gif

[whole axle]

aye welcome to the club

[whole axle]

same LMAOO

[distant tapir]

I had the 80HE pre-ordered but cancelled it because I needed money.

[whole axle]

me but with the 60he

i might get it next week

still deciding

[distant tapir]

I need the extra keys of the 80 so I'd never consider the 60.

[whole axle]

ah gotcha

yeah i only game

so its perfect lmao

keycaps are the hard thing for me rn

[magic minnow]

Respect on the adulting

[pale trellis]

i hate the internet sometimes, I go in research circles, too many differing opinions and I want too many things or maybe i try consider TOO many variables, basically spent my tail looking for mousepads last night, talk about opinions of things all over the place, almost as bad as audio haha

[magic minnow]

At least you're doing research on what you want, instead of going with the flow like most people do.

[whole axle]

TYPE99

easy

[pale trellis]

true, the journey of general knowledge acquisition is fun sometimes

hmm, something wild and different that hasn't been done with mice before...

hovering electromagnetically levitating mouse with a room temperature superconductor inside

[lost nebula]

please help me.

my wooting i think is malfunctioning

[magic minnow]

#1019755933959733258

[pale trellis]

can those Artisans be properly washed in a sink full of mild soapy warm water?

and are some of those wear issues valid?

[whole axle]

wear issues?

ive had my hein for like 5 year s

and yeah just a sink or tub

warm water and microfiber brush with like dish soap or dawn soap

[astral haven]

if there are alot of variables, i recommend spreadsheets

[pale trellis]

and graphs and statistics etc, too much information, stupid limited non super computer brain

[astral haven]

my brain no work good either, but sheets helps alot

[digital cliff]

yeah I can never decide when I need to buy something.... give me just one or two options please rather than 1000 to sift through... otherwise it takes me actual months

[pale trellis]

absolutely, double edge sword

[analog sinew]

damn capitalists

[hardy idol]

@old marlin I think it was you, what skates did you recommend me for use on the glass pad?

cuz I forgor

[old marlin]

Corepads

The uhmwpe skates from skypad also are alright apparently

Or cheap aliexpress dots

[hardy idol]

aaah

I'll get a set !! Thanksss

there we go

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/_GFI6H19SRA

Big Samsung W

If only they didn't cost 260 Euro ;_;

[final flame]

if only expensive thing wasn't expensive

[distant tapir]

VGA cable impedance mismatching causing ghosting?

(And yes everything looks like this)

[gusty kiln]

probably

what monitor?

[distant tapir]

My VGA cable is 3 meters long. I feel like it's too long. Well it is too long since my PC is right next to it. I have a 0,5 meter one ordered which will hopefully fix it.

[gusty kiln]

also VGA old AF, makes even IPS monitors have artifacts

[distant tapir]

Mitsubishi 2070SB.

[fickle ore]

who cares its VGA lol

[gusty kiln]

cuz CRT

[fickle ore]

give up

[fickle ore]

CRT's belong in electric waste, high hz OLED's are too good these days. Maybe 5 years ago CRT were worth the hassle

[distant tapir]

Let me see how your high HZ OLED looks in motion at 60 fps.

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it's analog, try a shorter cable that doesn't go near anything that could cause interference

And maybe screw it in tight

[trim comet]

what is ihaswooting badge thingy

[distant tapir]

Ya I will.

Also heard that ferrite cores are bad since they filter out high frequencies which if you're running the display at high resolutions etc can also cause signal degradation? But I've no idea if that's true.

That's what a ferrite core is btw.

My current cable has them.

[reef patrol]

VGA
high resolution
sharp signal (it's analog, not digital)

Pick neither 😄

[smoky frigate]

I have to respect soria's defiance

[reef patrol]

Indeed. Difficult to find a GPU that has VGA 😄

[smoky frigate]

there are converters

[reef patrol]

Sure. But those add more noise more often than not.

[smoky frigate]

but it's probably the cable. I had an xxxtra short VGA cable that looked like poo too, whereas the cheapo 1m cable was fine. it's luck of the draw

[reef patrol]

Mhmm. Trouble with analog cables. You don't necessarily get a hard dead signal, you might lose a colour or have some noise.

[pastel nacelle]

Ferrite cables are cool. But have you tried twisted pair cables with shielding sheathes?

[smoky frigate]

https://www.delock.de/produkt/62967/merkmale.html?g=1063

I remember this adapter being flawless and cheap

270hz max pixel clock, that'll be enough 😛

[distant tapir]

It wouldn't actually.

I run at 300.

[halcyon moss]

You run at 109hz

According to that

[distant tapir]

I mean pixel click.

[smoky frigate]

I meant to type megahertz, my bad

[distant tapir]

It's a 140 kHz horizontal scan rate monitor

[halcyon moss]

Kk

[distant tapir]

The same one as in that 700 Hz video.

Just that his model is a rebranded one.

[smoky frigate]

max pixel clock of this thing is 390? that's some nutball display

[distant tapir]

Yes. It must have been impossible to run maxed out when it came out.

[digital cliff]

mans gotta go back to 90s

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/90s-for-gif-19164016

[pastel nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/quacking-quacking-in-the90s-duck-quack-gif-17597892

[paper otter]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RQjbmD

Thoughts? It’s gonna be cheaper pops is helping me out for my bday

[pastel nacelle]

If you have a microcenter it would help.

Shop open box.

I don't deal with AMD. On the regular.

[whole axle]

7900xtx > 4080s

[paper otter]

Not rocking with amd software/drivers. Been building with nvidia since forever

[whole axle]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-happy-but-sad-face-gif-19422780

[paper otter]

Nothing against it though is cheaper with better performance

AWARE

[whole axle]

mhm mhm

idk ive never had driver issues

guess im lucky

[paper otter]

Nvcp just so easy to work with idk might be a fanboy

[whole axle]

i mean that would make me a fanboy too

[paper otter]

• lower psu usage soo fuck it i ball

[whole axle]

huh

its way higher lmao

[paper otter]

HUH

im going and

Amd

[pastel nacelle]

Shop for open box parts

[paper otter]

Full microcenter build. I’ll look around for cheaper parts or alternatives. I think im going Monday

[austere birch]

anyone good with the wooting macros care to help me out real quick via DM

[wheat plume]

Yes ....
Especially game devs, optimised that shit ffs

[ashen spindle]

yeah so we ostracize 90% of indie devs who barely can get it running, great idea

[wheat plume]

What?

[ashen spindle]

new hardware means for indie devs you can just do things very unoptimized and instead of learning proper code and do 6 months of that they can do sound or art or whatever else for their game

which is the only way they get it done without running out of funds in the first place often

[wheat plume]

Or
Since hardware won't be improving for another 10 years in this situation

They could make the game first
It'll be unoptimized
And then learn how to optimize it over the 10 years

[ashen spindle]

yeah and have no revenue for it, great idea so they just quit again

[wheat plume]

?

[empty wren]

You can boycott popular poor optimized games by not buying them

[ashen spindle]

most games work fine these days and the ones that stick out like cp77 arent unoptimized because of dev skill issue but because of management issues

this would change nothing for that

[wheat plume]

Yes
It helps to know which games these are too since the publishers said "fuck you just buy better hardware" xd

[ashen spindle]

like no this is not a good take this is completely stupid

this would only caus you to have worse and less games in that time

[empty wren]

Right,marketing fostered the many copies of cyberpunk to be sold

[empty wren]

Same thing happened to Halo Infinite, kind of a shame

I feel nothing will change considering how many people from generation z are lazy

[ashen spindle]

what

[empty wren]

The generation that will make it to the workplace soon enough is generation z. My point is they probably will not get on management for doing a poor job managing, they can be quite lazy.

[ashen spindle]

why would they be any lazier than current students

[empty wren]

Well I will give you an example: at my current workplace I know of two people who would hide their phone and watch anime.

But there is another poimt Iwill make, they also care more about their mental health. Management is gonna have a hell of time demanding overtime

[ashen spindle]

so for one people did that the moment an iphone was good enough to play videos lmao

and I dont quite see how that relates to the statement stopping pc hardware would be good because it forced current devs to optimize better

[empty wren]

I mean I was more tagging to your response if management being the real issue for what looks to unoptimized for mass consumption. I do to an extent agree with you on smaller groups needing to brute force code to work since there is a good chance they try to meet a deadline to look good.

[nimble canopy]

if optimazation wont give you more mony why optimize
why spent lots of time writing it in c++ and spent even more time on to support multiple platforms when electron just does the job

[empty wren]

Electron is heavy

Just check the resources the wootility uses

[ashen spindle]

discord uses up to 2% of my cpu but usually at <0.5%

so seems like electron does just fine

[empty wren]

wootility must be an outlier then

[crimson wigeon]

It can work ok in well made apps indeed

But you can also have hilariously badly made electron apps, like Star Citizen's launcher which at one point consumed more CPU than the game itself (when idling at main menu)

[ashen spindle]

you can do better but it works well enough whats the point

the time spent to optimize it could be used to add 3 new features

[empty wren]

Ahh

[ashen spindle]

the less people need to optimize something the more you can let people that arent good at that but could do creative things well make the games to stay in the game example

[nimble canopy]

cpu wise discord isent bad but 1.2 gb of ram is just stupid

[empty wren]

So python vs c++

[ashen spindle]

so if you limit how much better hardware gets you limit who can make games and then you limit how many games you get and how good they are because someone who could make an amazing game but just not optimize wont be able to make it then

[empty wren]

@wheat plume

[wheat plume]

I'm reading

[crimson marsh]

hello! can anyone pls explain what the difference between a 60he and 60he+ is?

[balmy vector]

60he+ adds support for screw in stabilizers

[crimson marsh]

so meaning i can buy aftermarket stabilizers that are better?

[balmy vector]

Any that fit
You can ask people in #🔧│keyboard_modding to help point you in the right direction for what stabilizers you want

[crimson marsh]

ive been rocking a 60he in tofu alum case that ive modded a lot and deciding if i should buy some nice stabilizers and upgrade the pcb

also if you dont mind me asking i lubed a few months ago and sounding kinda clacky now does this usually indicate that i need to relube?

i do have stock wooting keycaps which probably dont help

[balmy vector]

Depends, could be there wasnt enough lube applied if they’re louder than before i believe

Definitely ask in #🔧│keyboard_modding , they’re much better at modding questions than i am

[crimson marsh]

okay lol ty

[mystic rune]

@crimson marsh where do u get the case from and is it only for 60

Or 60 and 80

[balmy vector]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case

[mystic rune]

Do I add a plate @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

you dont need to add a plate

[mystic rune]

K @balmy vector

Is their one for 80he

[balmy vector]

there are no 3rd party cases for the 80he at the moment, as the files havent yet been released for 3rd parties to make use of them

[mystic rune]

K

Are they partnership with them @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

no

[mystic rune]

What the difference between new e coating white and e coating white @balmy vector

[mystic rune]

K

What is the brass weight bar @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

brass weight just makes the case heavier and slightly changes the sound

[mystic rune]

K does it make it Louder on lower with brass weight @separtedmango1

[balmy vector]

probably would make it slightly quieter, as itll fill the middle if foams not already in there

[mystic rune]

K

@balmy vector is the module just the pcb and plate

[balmy vector]

module on its own is the PC plate, silicone pad and pcb

[mystic rune]

What’s the silicone pad again @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

its put inbetween the pcb and pc plate to give it more thock

[mystic rune]

K

And the pc plate is were the stablizers go

Does it come with the stablizers @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

yes, it comes with screw-ins

[mystic rune]

Is the sensors of wooting in keyboard or keycaps or pcb

[mystic rune]

So it already in

I don’t have to add it my self

[balmy vector]

yes the stabs are already in, the sensors are on the pcb itself

[mystic rune]

K

So I all I add to the mod is the switches @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

if you already have keycaps and case, thats correct

[mystic rune]

K @balmy vector

What happens if I want to add own switches @balmy vector

[balmy vector]

if you want to add switches other than lekkers, theyll need to be compatible.
#🪛│modding_faq message heres a compatibility list with many other hall effect switches

[mystic rune]

So this is what I add to plate @balmy vector

I don’t see blue clicky switches @balmy vector

So all I have to do I put all switches in then put keycaps and case

[balmy vector]

Correct

[mystic rune]

Ok

But is it compatible with clicky switches blue because I don’t see it on their

[balmy vector]

Majority of he switches are linears

[light mesa]

Hello! Is there any difference between the 60HE+ and the TwoHe besides the size and stabilizers?

[balmy vector]

TwoHe has a little more latency than the 60he but it’s negligible. Just be prepared to stick with the stock twohe case if you’re thinking of going all out on customization since no other cases fit its design

[light mesa]

Okay nice. Thanks

[balmy vector]

[exotic sinew]

hi

[visual knoll]

hey, other than the cable sets on wooting, are there any other sites or sources I can find for more color variations

I'm currently looking for something purple/black as the purple/lavender one wouldn't specifically fit my keyboard color scheme, thx

[vagrant pagoda]

They both can do tachyon mode with the same latency. Two just cant do the entire board.

[whole axle]

should i have harware acceleration off on everything?

[halcyon moss]

What does that mean

[ashen kindle]

I was looking at ninjutso sora v2 on rtings

did they spill coffee on it wtf

[digital cliff]

there are no clicky HE switches

[analog sinew]

didnt cal mod that

[unkempt lake]

Yep

Found the vid

[analog sinew]

isnt it super late for you dashi

[unkempt lake]

you assume that i sleep

:3

[analog sinew]

apparently not

[unkempt lake]

i sleep like... 4 hours a night generally

Lol

[analog sinew]

tf

do you howl at the moon the other 4? :p

[unkempt lake]

Lol

I just exist

[mystic rune]

@digital cliff I mean can I use my clicky blue switches from old keyboard

[digital cliff]

no

[fair gull]

yes but it would be a pain to mod into a 60% or more cause the click springs are magnetic. theres also no telling if this can influence the magnetic response the sensor gets

[eternal oriole]

I’m looking to buy a monitor, I do play FPS games most of the time, but not only limited to them. Any recommendations?

[trim crane]

does anyone here have audeze maxwells

i need to ask 2 questions about them

[trim crane]

budget?

[brisk light]

Anyone got cool color modes they could send me with the fastest setting for val and fort???? wooting 60he

[eternal oriole]

Under 60,000 INR, roughly $700

[trim crane]

USD?

[eternal oriole]

Yes

Can go higher, as far as there are no customs duties 😦

[trim crane]

AW2725DF maybe

it says its on sale here for 900 CAD

maybe 700 USD

[fair gull]

only modded pocket missing

[trim crane]

wow that is cool

[fair gull]

i also have modded SPs but cant find the pic of them

[eternal oriole]

Will look into it. Thanks!

[trim crane]

arlecchino

[trim crane]

oh i rmemember i had leafgreen and a gameboy advance sp black

[reef patrol]

Gold was the last one I bought back in the day.

[wheat plume]

LOL BEST VIDEO TITLE

https://youtu.be/ddwNZ12_qX8

[eternal oriole]

Yess😅

[sharp badger]

Yes

[eternal oriole]

Would you say it is worthwhile upgrading to the 360 Hz model rather than the 240 Hz one? The difference is around $300 USD.

[smoky frigate]

I think not, the difference between 240 and 360hz is subtle

maybe worth $100 but not $300

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/chester-bennington-these-wounds-they-will-not-heal-linkin-park-gif-9270424

[verbal walrus]

Anyone have any thoughts on Wooting competitots ie chinese pcb?

[reef patrol]

Sure - Don't buy the copy, get the original with warranty.

[verbal walrus]

wdym

[balmy vector]

would just rather have wooting. they'll offer much better service and support in the long run

[verbal walrus]

hmm interesting

firmware support yes i guess

HM66 apparently has better hardware and as of now regular firmware updates

but a lot of these chinese keebs are unknown

and all reviews are in chinese

so i dunno if i should get a hm66 or 60he

60he is very expensive and the hm66 is bit more expensive for hardware that allegedly rivals 80he or even beats it idk atm

but wooting 60 he is well known and tested

so idk

[eternal oriole]

Makes sense. Thanks for the help!

[verbal walrus]

west vs east type of thing

[smoky frigate]

it has a "response rate" of 8k that will make no tangible difference

[verbal walrus]

0.01 vs 1 mm actuation distance

apparently usable at 0.02

[reef patrol]

barely

Expect random inputs 😄

[smoky frigate]

a garbage can falling over outside will start typing emails on your keeb lawl

[verbal walrus]

it's adjustable though

idk to what it can be adjusted to

anyway this sus reddit user who has very sus background said this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1e643h4/latest_build_fastest_keyboard_in_the_world/

not sure just looking for people who have tested a lot of these keebs

including chinese ones

usually china is better for price since they manufacture this tech

[reef patrol]

To be fair they manufacture - all - tech. Even our keyboards.
But you're unlikely to get decent customer protections when ordering from China.

Or necessarily get what you pay for 😄

[verbal walrus]

agreed that's why idk what to do

[balmy vector]

go with the tried and true

[verbal walrus]

I mean ali express is decent

[reef patrol]

Ali express is a platform, not a company.

[verbal walrus]

they provide customer protection no like ebay?

[reef patrol]

Not... not really.

[frozen ingot]

they do

[verbal walrus]

Point is i wanna buy wholesale prices ya know

[reef patrol]

And shipping things BACK to China is not cheap 😄

[verbal walrus]

I heard the Cycle8 (nvm this is a keyboard kit)

rakka60

viper geon

pcbs are the best of the best but my sources are kinda grey

[frozen ingot]

bought a lot of stuff from aliexpress and always gotten refunded so far if there's been issues

[reef patrol]

Ali also has a major language problem. Depending on what page I am on, it's either in English, German or Dutch of all things 😄

[smoky frigate]

if you can stand to lose the money, no reason not to order a chinese clone

[frozen ingot]

doubt you'd be refunded for buying a cloned set and receieving said cloned set though

[verbal walrus]

Sorry I meant to say geonworks venom he pcb and rakka60 are apparently the most capable pcb on the market according to gray sources

[frozen ingot]

just be aware of what you're buying and its usually all good

[verbal walrus]

true

[proven valley]

Aliexpress return policy is really nice honestly

Idk about u

[verbal walrus]

HM66 seems to be the most cost-effective on the market

[reef patrol]

Like I said - I don't have positive things to say about Ali as a platform 😄

[verbal walrus]

I don't like Ali tbh

[proven valley]

Have u bought from it by any chance

[verbal walrus]

But if they sell hardware that is superior for like $10 more

[reef patrol]

Yes, many times.

[verbal walrus]

allegedly*

[proven valley]

Oh nice, what did u buy

[worldly quartz]

so i assume you’ve had the keyboard at hand to be saying this?

[verbal walrus]

I am a Uni student but i am aware of the ins and outs of the business a lil

[reef patrol]

No but I know how physics work. 0.01mm is thinner than a strand of hair.

[proven valley]

What clone?

[verbal walrus]

Yes but theory and practice aren't the same

[proven valley]

Why do yall have this perception that any hall effect keyboard is a clone of wootings

[verbal walrus]

Dude on reddit claimed 0.02 was usable

[verbal walrus]

idk

[proven valley]

Ever thought that maybe hall effect is just a technology used for keyboards?

[verbal walrus]

A lot of the industry is copy and paste tech

[proven valley]

Not u

[verbal walrus]

no it was used in space a long time ago

[proven valley]

Bro

Im talking about keyboards

[reef patrol]

I don't recall seeing anyone claim that.

[verbal walrus]

the principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect

[worldly quartz]

yeah, the software itself warns you when you go below a certain point, but saying expect random inputs and not specifying you’re talking about it being at the lowest actuation is crazy

[proven valley]

I am completely aware

🙂

[reef patrol]

Like I said. 0.01mm is a hilarious claim, when you understand what that means in terms of sensor sensitivity and variance.

[verbal walrus]

1/10 of human hair does seem a bit odd

but it's using hall effect

[worldly quartz]

wym claim, you’re saying it’s untrue?

[verbal walrus]

and good sensors

i mean he may be right

chinese tech claims can be iffy

[reef patrol]

Good sensors or not, there's no such thing as a perfect signal. There's always a small amount of variance on the signal received, which is where deadzones come into play.

[verbal walrus]

@reef patrol their* software allegedly measures this

[proven valley]

Yes, so they give u the choice

Whether or not u use it is up to u

[frozen ingot]

I'd say there's a good chance of them lying

[worldly quartz]

as a user i wouldn’t complain about getting given the choice to go down to 0.01mm lmao

[proven valley]

Also of all hall effect kbs, the hm xu pcb would be the one to do it

[reef patrol]

My point is that I don't buy that it's anywhere near 0.01 in practice, because of the implications thereof.

[proven valley]

It has gotten a lot of praise in china, korea and japan

[verbal walrus]

Reasonable

[proven valley]

And is getting praise in the west too

[verbal walrus]

How can we measure this rigorously

[reef patrol]

I look forward to proper reviews using testing machinery that can actually measure this in an unbiased way

[proven valley]

The way I put it is, if u want wooting, buy it for the community and the open-ness of manufacturing, upcoming firmware etc

[proven valley]

Oh

[worldly quartz]

he doesn’t know

[proven valley]

Do u want me to show u

Aint no way bruh

[verbal walrus]

Are the tests independent?

[proven valley]

https://dpqp.jp/rapid-trigger-keyboard-comparison

[verbal walrus]

China said they made a superconductor

and we know how that went

oops korea

nvm

leaning towards the hm66 ngl

wooting seems like the safer bet, but hm66 seems like it's shooting for the stars

[proven valley]

Look the thing is this pcb has the most hall effect sensors of all, out of all the available, I would definitely expect this one to detect the smallest changes in magnetic field flux with the appropriate firmware

And im not putting wooting down at all

But it seems the prejudice to other boards here is stupid

[worldly quartz]

yeah it’s safer cause you’ll get support and shi

[verbal walrus]

But HM66 has provable frequent firmware updates

[proven valley]

Honestly sikakeyb support isnt too bad, but idk if it applies to ali orders

[verbal walrus]

i think he means firmware updates

[proven valley]

No

[worldly quartz]

na firmware updates r frequent

[reef patrol]

Prejudice or severe skepticism seems apt given the claims made, with no unbiased third party showing their work. But that's just me. Trust no one, verify everything 😄

[proven valley]

Uh

[verbal walrus]

Is dpqp.jp independent?

[proven valley]

I mean if multiple HE testers have covered it, multiple peripheral enthusiasts, multiple HE enthusiast, multiple reviewers have covered it

[worldly quartz]

hey u won’t know until u try the keyboard, i don’t think it’s right to downplay it when u haven’t tried it

[proven valley]

I wonder what more u want

[reef patrol]

I don't need to try it. I just want someone to test the claims properly, because I don't take them at face value. 🙂

[verbal walrus]

Not a good mindset imo, you should try yours competitor's tech

[proven valley]

Why have u ignored the dpqp measurements I've sent u?

Why dont u respond to that 🙂

[worldly quartz]

okay sure, again doesn’t mean you can say the keyboard will have random inputs etc… again there’s people who have done testing which have no connection to hemu

[verbal walrus]

If you ignore competition's tech you are admitting ignorance in your own market

[proven valley]

I mean the difference between the hm xu and the wooting is quite drastic

[reef patrol]

I work customer service, not product development. It isn't my job to do so (and we do exactly that)

[verbal walrus]

Oh ok

[proven valley]

And when u put it into context/play, id say the difference is even greater

[reef patrol]

You mean the Japanese website? I did take a look, and they don't show their work, only the results.

[proven valley]

Or did u just look at that specific page

[verbal walrus]

the reddit review seems telling obviously not an engineering source or academic review or anything

[reef patrol]

I don't have any need or interest in painstakingly digging through a website that's being google translated. If you know that they show their testing processes, then by all means.

Again - Personal opinion here.

[proven valley]

Mansen, do u think the wooting 60he is still the best hall effect keyboard out there

Out of curiosity

It seems the only bias here is coming from u

[verbal walrus]

As a member of the company he def does

[reef patrol]

Based on what metrics? The 80HE is our newest product, and has more features than the 60HE.

[verbal walrus]

Yeah based on responsivity

[reef patrol]

It also has a measureably lower latency.

[verbal walrus]

and if not you can argue other parameters are more important

obviously durability, general quality ...

[marsh glade]

Any keyboard that claims 0.01 needs to show proof or I absolutely do not believe them. I know which company manufactures all of the keyboards that claim this, and unless proven otherwise I think it's complete bullshit.

An understanding of how hall effect sensors function and an understanding of manufacturing variances in the strength of the magnet in the switch is enough to know will near certainty that anyone claiming 0.01 accuracy is lying through their teeth.

[worldly quartz]

compare stock hm66 to stock wooting

[proven valley]

Forget about 0.01mm actuation, lets talk performance

Or are we avoiding this

[marsh glade]

Avoiding what?

[verbal walrus]

expand

[proven valley]

Oh yeah also

Why was the 80he latency measured at 0.6ms

[reef patrol]

It's not my job to sell you a 60HE over a HM66. Nor do I wish to push personal bias. You asked on folk's opinions on the board, and my only comment is that I don't trust the specs they're claiming.

If you need help with a Wooting keyboard, I'd be more than happy to offer my support. But I have no personal experience with this HM66, so all I can rely on is credible reviews and the claims made by them - I'd love to see some western reviews with proper testing methodology. And if they happen to "beat" us on any metric, kudos to them. 🙂

[proven valley]

Wasnt it true 8k?

[marsh glade]

End to end latency has more steps involved than scanning+polling

[proven valley]

I mean 8k scan and polling should result in about 0.125-0.16ms initial actuation latency right?

[proven valley]

Oh word

But why was it true 8k

But now about 2.5k scanning?

Or am i tweaking

[marsh glade]

True 8k means that it scans and polls at 8k

[reef patrol]

Calder explains the latency being higher than .125 in the Computex video with practical examples using the measurement setup. 🙂

[proven valley]

I mean if its 8/8, it should still be around 0.125, excited to see results tho !

[marsh glade]

But for a system to recognize the fact that it has received an input requires computation and firmware

[proven valley]

I mean there are boards which have alr been tested below 0.2

Will the 80he progress with firmware?

[verbal walrus]

At the end of the day if the HM66 does boast better specs, for I think $10 AUD more, why would I buy a 60HE? And if we have no independent testing which is not exclusive to this industry in fairness, just about every other peripherals product, we need to fix this

Need standardised tests so that customers can decide

[marsh glade]

I agree that standardized testing in critically important. This is why we are providing latency testing rigs to both reviewers as well as competitors, free of charge

[verbal walrus]

I feel like Asian tech isn't getting a fair chance cause it's being lost through translation and a bad rap

[verbal walrus]

Also thoughts on accessibility

These HE keyboards top of the line are being sold for exorbitant prices

irrespective of the manufacturer

putting people at a competitive disadvantage

$266 AUD bro this is crazy, this applies to the HM66 as well

[reef patrol]

To be fair it is not difficult to send hardware from China to a reviewer for an independent review.
God knows I've done my fair share of "weird china tech" reviews over the years.

A lot of it is lack of interest and lack of marketing on the manufacturer's end. China is a HUGE market, and you can absolutely design products to only sell there, and never have to worry about western markets.

[verbal walrus]

until someone makes them accessible they will be used by niche esports peeps

youtubers

and rich kids

[verbal walrus]

Fair enough

HM66 is korean only 5000 units sold

they say themselves

Just my genuine thoughts

I love your ideas and stuff and i think performance based keyboards are the future

why buy fancy looking keyboards for $200 when you can invest solely into performance

but atm performance is crazy expensive

[marsh glade]

If the price of our keyboard is out of reach for a particular potential customer, then they should not buy our keyboard and instead put that money towards upgrading something else in their system like the CPU or GPU

[reef patrol]

A big issue is - as you mention, the lack of standardized testing.
Any influencer can buy or receive a product and claim they tested it. But you need some standards for what is tested how, for it to make sense.

Comparing someone like Gamers Nexus to ... most of their "rivals" is a good example. Anyone can write a script and present it in a nice way. But most reviewers don't actually go into depth with things (and most viewers don't care either)

[verbal walrus]

and i know the profit margins are high banking on the clout from youtubers like optimum

[verbal walrus]

most cpus and gpus can run 99% of games sufficiently

people overspend in that department notoriously

Wooting HM and all these HE do things that genuinely give you a competitive advantage

[marsh glade]

A $20 keyboard from your local "sells everything" store can run 99% of games sufficiently

[verbal walrus]

a 4090 on minecraft doesn't

again, competitive adv and dsv

Drunkdeer and stuff are coming into this budget HE market

[marsh glade]

A good keyboard won't make a lick of difference if your game sense is crap

[verbal walrus]

Disagree it does

Cough FPS purely skill based games

[smoky frigate]

keyboard is the last thing you should invest in if you want competitive advantage, first you gotta hit 240-360hz in your game

[verbal walrus]

and game sense comes with time

to the point that the bottle neck becomes the equipment

you could argue internet as well yes, but having quicker responsivity kinda counter balances this or at least combats this

Anyway I am getting past myself, I believe with practice anyone can be a competitive gamer

so if you disagree fair enough i suppose

But I do think equal playing grounds should be possible for everyone

[worldly quartz]

preach king

[marsh glade]

We will continue to drive forward keyboard innovation to the greatest extent that we can.

[verbal walrus]

thanks

[verbal walrus]

Cut your profit margins show some sympathy don't partake in the soulless capitalist mindset and innovate by saving unneeded costs

from development production to sales

Like that one cereal that improved their sales by cutting the BS marketing and design and made a super minimalistic packaging which set them apart

otherwise kill it

[marsh glade]

I'm not going to spend my Sunday afternoon debating the ethics of our pricing models

You have no obligation to purchase our products, just the same as everyone else

[verbal walrus]

I am not saying you guys are esp guilty of anything

But I do think their is value in being transparent, very ethical and accessible

in general

As I said if you are already doing these things kill it

[reef patrol]

We just shipped an SOCD feature to all of our keyboard models, going back what... 6-7 years at this point?
I'd say that's a feather in our "don't be capitalist pigs" hat.

[verbal walrus]

@reef patrol isn't that just a simple github script

[verbal walrus]

i do like the sentiment tho

[reef patrol]

Razer certainly didn't seem to think so. What was it their dev said on Twitter? Took them a year to develop? And it was only added to their newest line of keyboards?

[verbal walrus]

What has my life come to an anticapitalist biology graduate soon to be scientist arguing about gaming keyboards and doxxing myself

[verbal walrus]

Razer are filth

I fw your mentality

But yeah comparing yourself to Razer is setting the bar to the ground lol

Sorry if I seem like I am coming at you guys, anyway best of luck

[topaz totem]

Yo quick question does anyone know any website to get good wooden keycaps from???? to match to my fractal north case ISO DE layout+

[alpine patio]

paid by the hour

[proven valley]

Just get a wooden gh60 case

And beige keycaps from shenpo or smt

[topaz totem]

io dont have a 60%

[topaz totem]

beige doesnt fit

just keycaps

[proven valley]

Im not gna recommend wooden keycaps

[topaz totem]

could also be pbt with wooden finish idc

[proven valley]

I believe that would be reverse dye sub

And thats a nono

[topaz totem]

kk thanks

I will keep it at black atm ig

[halcyon moss]

https://x.com/carlrichell/status/1815498238285562127

Carl Richell (@carlrichell) on X

The first alpha release of Pop!_OS 24.04 with COSMIC will be released August 8th.

@jeremy_soller, Maria, and I join the System76 Transmission Log pod to chat about how COSMIC came to be and where it's headed. https://t.co/sJwiYmHDYK

Twitter · Jul 22, 2024, 9:24 PM

omg its happening.
and i will absolutely NOT be running a alpha

[steep creek]

oo exciting

ill run it in a vm at best yeah, not on bare metal

[smoky frigate]

rather fast considering all the crap they had to write

[ashen spindle]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-Zenbook-S-16-laptop-review-The-first-Copilot-laptop-with-AMD-Zen-5-inside-a-1-3-cm-thick-case.868219.0.html

asus only till like mid august then other models

[halcyon moss]

strixpoint, thats not new right?

Price
2100 Euro

[ashen spindle]

strix is the new one

phoenix/hawk are zen4

[spark glade]

Hey there anyone knows when the 9800x3d will drop approx ?

[ashen spindle]

september is a current expectation but could always be later, likely before intel launches something in the winter

[spark glade]

Aight perfect

Thanks

[spark glade]

A friend could sell me an upgrade pack for 500e 7800x3d + msi x670e and 32gb cl32 5200 mhz corsair

Should I dig or wait

Only game I play is cs2

[ashen spindle]

thats alright

https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370

[spark glade]

Torn if I should wait or not

[ashen spindle]

get it, means you have months of fun with it and you can upgrade whenever

or just wait for zen6 to upgrade

[spark glade]

I have a I'm kind of stuck tbh, and I don't know what else to do, I ran a bunch of benchmarks and I get 420 fps avg but on faceit I almost never reach those.
My computer is 5600x and 6950 xt I play on a aw2725df which is why I'd like to reach the 360hz atleast but it seems my fps is just fluctuating a lot.

I have an aw32dwf as well so I think it might be a good upgrade

[tawny bough]

Guys is it easy to build a kb from the 60he module ? (first mod ever)

[halcyon moss]

benchmarks look super promising

too bad NPU couldnt be tested properly

[ashen spindle]

dont care about npu till some usefull app exists for it xD

[reef patrol]

Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0i0XVWM0ig

[digital cliff]

just like 5 screws into the case, plopping the switches and keycaps on by hand

[halcyon moss]

well.. home server applications soonish.
voice, llms, that stuff

[ashen spindle]

sure, still soon and not now

[halcyon moss]

true

and a couple of npu generations hopefully 😄

[tawny bough]

First mod ever so im kinda nervous

[halcyon moss]

then again.. ppl were very happy with coral NPU m.2 cards.
that does 2tops

[digital cliff]

if you can screw screws you're completely fine

[tawny bough]

Ok 🙂

Thx

[ashen spindle]

if you use it on non windows you also have all 50tops for it so that should be good enough for now

[digital cliff]

it's not some super fragile piece of kit, just some pieces you screw together haha

[tawny bough]

And are the jade switches really requires or should i just take the lekker ?

[halcyon moss]

oops. its 4 tops.
but yeah 50 is loads compared to that

[digital cliff]

neither of them is better or worse

pick whatever you want

[tawny bough]

Nah on yt everyone says jade are way better

Also bc its pre lubed

[digital cliff]

so are the lekkers

[tawny bough]

But 20% more

[digital cliff]

everyone on yt are wrong tbh

[tawny bough]

$

[digital cliff]

believe who you want

[tawny bough]

Hl

Hmm

I trust you but

[digital cliff]

just buy the jades I suppose, it's not a big loss

[tawny bough]

They say it sounds better

I also loose .5 mm

[digital cliff]

well do you know what kinda sound you like

[tawny bough]

No

[digital cliff]

so then you need to try both and decide for yourself

[tawny bough]

Oh no

I cant buy 10 of each

[digital cliff]

from what I can tell the jades are clackier than the lekkers when both are similarly lubed

I personally don't like that

[tawny bough]

Hm

[digital cliff]

some do

I mean that's what I heard from people, I haven't tried both either

[tawny bough]

I think it also depends a lot on the microphone they use

So its not the real sound ill hear

[digital cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7zCM7kFNo8 like even looking at this video

[tawny bough]

Oh thx

[digital cliff]

the jades clack a lot more

you need to get a video where the same person tests both

and even then it's not true to life as mic placement, mic itself, the room, the table, everything, affects the recording

so who can really say how it sounds when it's on your table and it's your ears hearing them

I don't think lekkers sound awesome from the box, I would handlube them personally, but if you don't want to that's completely fine. in that case I'd probably also pick the jades even if they are higher-pitched, the sound is just a little more consistent and not crunchy

the lekkers after lubing at least the spring do sound a lot better

[tawny bough]

Lekker is mor click

Jade is clack

Lekker sounds cheap

Jade feels premium

Idk

They feel way better to me

Thx

[digital cliff]

that's the crunch in the spring

[tawny bough]

Hmm

[digital cliff]

but happy if I helped you make a decision

[tawny bough]

I think its the .5 mm of plastic

[digital cliff]

eh, that's not really nothing to do with it

[tawny bough]

Yes

I think it touches it in a clAck sound

It does change everything

Its beautiful

On the tofu60redux i can buy 70 jade but theyre out of stock

It shouldnt take too long

[digital cliff]

what do you think between these two keys

[tawny bough]

Lekker on the right

The left sounds better

[digital cliff]

both lekker 45s

[tawny bough]

I think

What

[digital cliff]

the one on the left I just lubed