🔌│tech

[balmy vector]

Gen4 is absolutely suitable for majority i think

[umbral heron]

Coming from SATA even Gen3 is fast as fuck for me

[cursive summit]

I.. still have a SATA drive that I love

Samsung 860

[balmy vector]

Same, i just bought a 2tb gen4 drive recently to move my games

I got 2 satas

[hasty thunder]

Well, Gen 5 is more suitable for some stupid fast machine learning rigs. A normal person is totally fine with Gen 4 and even that is way too fast for many

[cursive summit]

This is where you prolly need those speeds

ML and such

[hasty thunder]

well, i do see a benefit in video editing using such loading speeds, but still, for a normal user it's more speed than they'd ever need

[balmy vector]

Agreed

[pale sigil]

https://amzn.eu/d/8hvALHF

That time again

Where I drool over qdoled

[balmy vector]

i drool over any oled

Even when i have one

I cant stop the addiction

[rough patrol]

i'd love an oled but i play one game for thousands of hours so burn in would be a real concern

[umbral heron]

As long as you don't play one game for thousands of hours at once then you should be fine

I'm standing by IPS

[rough patrol]

does 3000 hours in 3 years countr

[balmy vector]

Screen refreshes do help

What

[rough patrol]

of one game

[frozen ingot]

I'd constantly be worrying about it in desktop use

[balmy vector]

What game are you playing that much

[rough patrol]

path of exile

[balmy vector]

Oh gotcha, that makes sense

[pale sigil]

Ah ye that would kill any screen

[balmy vector]

Havent played it in a looong time

[umbral heron]

PoE

[pale sigil]

Very boring and makes the screen wanna commit self destruction

[rough patrol]

boring???

[balmy vector]

Wizard101 would make my oled screen shiver having those health/mana icons always there bubbling

[pale sigil]

Hahaha

That brings me back

[balmy vector]

I love how its still chugging along

Really should catch up on it

[umbral heron]

Hmmm... should I be concerned when my colleague wants me to check what's wrong with his program he ported to Rust and most of it is just Command::new?

[balmy vector]

I mean its rust

[pale sigil]

https://amzn.eu/d/fgGC5Fi

Tempting

Free sync premium too

[balmy vector]

Oh thats kinda cool

[umbral heron]

Exactly - if something exists there's a crate for it already
Just like in JS

[balmy vector]

Cant teach a dog old tricks, but you can store them

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle what's that site you linked ages ago that shows monitor stats

[ashen spindle]

Huh

Rtings?

Or what sort of stats do you mean

[bright smelt]

Hey. I'm sick of my current corsair icue setup, so I'm thinking about building a 100% DIY keyboard wit halleffect switches and other custom features. For the HE Switches I'm taking inspiration of already existing HE Keyboards. Are there any recommendations of which halleffect sensor I should use and what would be the best way of interfacing it?

[umbral heron]

Tony has suggested these sensors for me some time ago #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ZcZAplNX4 nice overview

[vagrant pagoda]

That's a ton of work if you didn't know

Tuning hall effect sensors is a massive pain

[jade lintel]

op admitted it was a peel xd

at the very bottom

he even saw an air bubble and didnt think it was a film at first

maybe there wasnt a pull tab

[balmy vector]

[pale sigil]

https://www.hotukdeals.com/share-deal-from-app/4314520

@ashen spindle should I XD

[balmy vector]

666?!

[pale sigil]

Ye

[ashen spindle]

Idk do you even use your pc currently

[reef patrol]

Gotta plug the Steamdeck into something.

[bright smelt]

I'm imagining it like defining the max and min positions and the rest gets defined I code (might be wrong )

[vagrant pagoda]

Nope

Reading the sensors is a ton of work

They are pretty noisy

Especially once you add all the multiplexers

[bright smelt]

Hm. Ether way I'll definetly add hotswap sockets, so I could use standard switches

[vagrant pagoda]

How

There isn't enough room for the hall effect sensor and pins for a normal switch

[bright smelt]

I saw it on a different HE Keyboard, don't remember the name

[vagrant pagoda]

The "switch" on a lekker is nothing more than a magnet on a spring

The sensor is on the pcb

Right in the way of normal switch pins

You'd also have to have two different entire keyboard worth of electronics and traces to make that work.

[bright smelt]

Ik on the other HE Keyboard I saw the sensor wasn't placed directly under the "switch" but a bit to the side, to make space for the pins.

[vagrant pagoda]

The sensor is on the bottom with the LED on the top

So you need north facing normal switch layout to use the same led

Which puts the pins where the hall effect sensor goes

[pale sigil]

Yesnt

For specific reasons and this being one of them.

I need a new chair too which I'm working on.

[cold spindle]

Is it possible to use the wooting lekkar switches in the drunkdeer a75? I know it's a silly question but just wondering

[ashen spindle]

I mean if you think you’ll game a lot sure get it but if the monitor alone is keeping you away you will get bored quite fast again

[vagrant pagoda]

Then it's a different swtich

[pale sigil]

I need a new monitor in general 😭

[vagrant pagoda]

Also why not just use that keyboard

[pale sigil]

Feels like I'm wasting money if I get something else

I'm worried about pixel shift though

[vagrant pagoda]

Why

[bright smelt]

Might have beed a different magnetic "switch" but the alternate switches where standard linear/tactile switches. I'll send you a picture of it when I'm home

[vagrant pagoda]

I know what keyboard it is

[pale sigil]

Because I want qdoled eventually

[vagrant pagoda]

It is not the same switch

[pale sigil]

I've wanted it for a long time

https://amzn.eu/d/fgGC5Fi

Was also looking at this

Looks pretty good tbh

[wheat plume]

link: "amazon eu"
website it takes you to: "amazon UK"

🤔

[pale sigil]

Deal of the day: AOC AGON Gaming - AG275QZ - 27 Inch QHD Monitor, 240Hz, 1ms GTG, IPS, HDR 400, G sync Compatible, Freesync premium, Heiught Adjust (2560 x 1440 @240Hz, c HDMI 2.0 / DP 1.4 / USB 3.2) https://amzn.eu/d/7ALT11B

Hmmm

[dawn mica]

@marsh glade if the cost for a new 60 he pcba are that high would it be possible to make a "founders campain" like founding so you only need or can do the new pcba if a set fund goal is reached this would Cover the expensives for a new PCBA and you would also directly get numbers of how many people are interessted in a upgrade for the 60he.

[astral haven]

link: "bit.ly"
website it takes you to: absolutely anything lol

[pale sigil]

Can I get opinions

[wheat plume]

im just pointing out eu link taking you to a UK domain

the irony is great

[pale sigil]

Seems like a solid price

[astral haven]

and ly is a libya domain

[pale sigil]

We still live in Europe

[wheat plume]

physically yeah xd

[pale sigil]

Anyway

[fair gull]

the issue isnt cost for us that much as it is if customers are willing to basically spend money on another 60he again just to swap the pcb

[dawn mica]

You could just do a poll (twitter/discord/livestream) what about just selling the pcb so you don't need to buy a full keyboard again (and implement it in future 60he).

[fair gull]

most of the keyboard cost is the PCB

[dawn mica]

That is clear

[ashen spindle]

I don’t think wooting are currently interested in putting much behind a mostly placebo effect to upgrade the older models at a high cost, makes more sense to do that whenever the next revision would make sense anyway

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.hackster.io/news/leodj-s-donglehider-packs-up-to-three-logitech-style-dongles-into-a-single-framework-expansion-card-a3a6eb56a8e2

[fair gull]

youd basically smash out a good 120 to 150 for just a pcb

[dawn mica]

I would acutally just be willing to spend another 130-150€ for a new PCB

[astral haven]

nice!

[cursive summit]

Brexit never happened

[vagrant pagoda]

You gotta solder the dongles

[fair gull]

not to mention if you break the bare pcb while installing well... no warranty if you broke it

[potent bramble]

I guess I'd ask this here, does every feature on the wooting keyboard work on linux? (with the appropriate software)

[ashen spindle]

Yes

[cursive summit]

It's Linux, so nothing works

[fair gull]

no software needed for features. but our software works on any OS

all features run on the keyboard itself to be as OS agnostic as possible

[astral haven]

i can see 1 or a theoretical 2, where does the 3rd go??

[potent bramble]

certified linux hater

[vagrant pagoda]

2 on one side and 1 on the other

[cursive summit]

Indeed, nice to meet you

[fair gull]

our web configurator just needs any form of Chromium and the OS to allow chromium to access USB devices. thats all the requirements

this means basically any OS since 2010 or so works fine

[potent bramble]

so like the analog keys and stuff that detect how far they're pressed will "just work"?

[fair gull]

analog functions are implement by the keyboard exposing a choosable DInput or XInput gamepad interface

[cursive summit]

Analog has nuances like per-game support

[dawn mica]

I would just love to see if the interessted is there from the community site etc. I would love to see a poll. Maybe i am just a minority.

[fair gull]

thats what you confiugre

and our keyboards got implemented in the kernel via patches to be automatically configured for XInput

[potent bramble]

If the wooting board works the way I think it does then it'd be the perfect keyboard to play GTA/RDR on

[cursive summit]

GTA works great on it last I heard

[marsh glade]

The issue is cost for us, but not monetary. It's a question of design and development resources. We've got a LOT of projects to work on, and only so many people to execute on them

[cursive summit]

Idk about RDR, same engine so prolly the same

[fair gull]

yeah i was talking monetary

other resources are uh

404

[marsh glade]

Limited 😛

[fair gull]

thats a nice way to put it mark

[astral haven]

sad they dont say its compatible with the bolt dongles
i cant find 3
do they mean the usb port as 3?

[potent bramble]

Pretty much any game that is "better on controller" because of analog controls would feel better on a wooting board than a standard one

like mortal kombat would probably go crazy

[dawn mica]

I mean a poll still wouldn't hurt anyone.

[cursive summit]

Mark, hire me so I can work on WootMouse™️ with no prior industry experience or technical knowledge

I won't ask for a salary either

[vagrant pagoda]

Next to y1

That's the +- for the third port

[ashen spindle]

Poll doesn’t matter much if it could not be done even if people would want it

[potent bramble]

Are they making a WootMouse™️?

[fair gull]

so there is one big issue with analog keyboards like ours and thats simply that games dont like mixed input often. the issue is that your keyboard will still send digital keys (unless configured not to) and then most games either freak out by lagging or the UI just changes between controller/kbm all the time. For GTA5 specifically you will need separate walking/driving/flying profiles as they all map differently to the keyboard

[cursive summit]

Not that we know of and probably not

[potent bramble]

they oughta put that on the website

does typing take getting used to on the wooting? can you go faster than a standard board once used to it?

[fair gull]

its the same

just a different feel

cause of contactless linear switches

[cursive summit]

Worse than clicky, imo

[fair gull]

as an avid clicky user: no

[cursive summit]

Clickies are just so much better than linears

[rough patrol]

I like linear for typing tbh

[cursive summit]

WootOne Blue switch gang

[potent bramble]

I have a razer huntsman board and its got a lighter clicky feel I don't mind but its fairly loud

[dawn mica]

If i allready have you here Tony could u tell me if tape modding my wooting could dmg it in anyway? @fair gull

[fair gull]

im all with you and i still use my wooting ones and twos with blue switches but... typing is superior on the lekker imo

like a lot

[cursive summit]

Idk I just like membranes and clickies so much more than linears, the feeling is far too different and worse, less enjoyable

[potent bramble]

I had a brown board before though and I really enjoyed it, Just thought the actuation was too heavy (it was like 85g, too slow for the games I wanted to play)

[cursive summit]

Give me a linear keyboard and I can't type anymore

The difference is just so big mentally that linear is just a no-no

[potent bramble]

bro needs that neuron activation to type

do the yellow lekkers feel better than the greens?

[astral haven]

oh i see, thats kinda messy tho :/
i wish github had a preview for 3d files, i dont see how 3 physically fits
and to be fair when on earth would you ever need 3 different dongles

[cursive summit]

I mean, yes

I bought waifu a keychron linear with pretty damn nice switches

[astral haven]

On the other hand lol

[cursive summit]

I literally cannot use it

Literally cannot type anymore as soon as you give me that keeb

WootOne supremacy

[vagrant pagoda]

Pretty sure it only works with really small dongles

[pale sigil]

https://amzn.eu/d/iCGjXC5

Can I get opinions?

[ashen spindle]

Look if hub or rtings reviewed it

[pale sigil]

Hub?

[ashen spindle]

Hardware unboxed

[vagrant pagoda]

Do you need one dongle per device?

[pale sigil]

Hmmm

Oh

Not the same one

[astral haven]

no, each dongle can do 6 devices lol

[pale sigil]

Reviews seem to be pretty good with some minor issues with contrast and something about local dimming

For this price it might be the best bang for the buck idk

[halcyon moss]

TN?

I though TN was looong dead

[pale sigil]

Ips

Nano ips

[ashen spindle]

IPS, the rtings one was tn but that was a different model

[pale sigil]

Might get it and try it

Worst case I return I guess

[astral haven]

1440p240 is a sweet specline

va is nicer but cant get it all

[pale sigil]

Feesync premium with gsync compat is what I'm after

VA has it's issues

[astral haven]

it looks substantially better than ips or tn

[ashen spindle]

The newer gen Samsung VA yeah the older shit is horrible for games due to smear

[astral haven]

only advantage of ips is viewing angles

[astral haven]

same is true for each lcd tech lel

[ashen spindle]

I’ve never even thought smear to be possibly this bad till I tried one VA ultrawide from gigabyte before it got the qdoled

Returned it like 2 days later

[astral haven]

the other thing to consider tho is that va has 3x the contrast

if you use the high black modes, you can throw away the contrast and get it to be faster

but you cant sacrifice speed on the tn or ips to get more contrast

[bright smelt]

Found it. it was a Akko MOD007B.

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes I told you I knew what it was

[bright smelt]

oh sorry dint see that response

[lyric hatch]

Just get an OLED and don't sacrifice anything

Well apart from the money in your bank acc

[astral haven]

and durability and brightness

and text clarity

oled also consumes substantially more power

[lyric hatch]

Eh that's more of an issue with earlier OLED models at least the brightness and text clarity

These new MLA WOLED panels are greatly improved in both aspects

[astral haven]

oled also has issues with ALR

[lyric hatch]

And VA has issues with screen flickering at lower refresh rates and dim viewing angles

[astral haven]

large viewing angles are a downside for monitors

and what are you talking about flickering?

[lyric hatch]

The expensive VA panels from saumsung have issues with flickering at lower hz

[astral haven]

oleds cant do low refresh rates at all

[astral haven]

what

[astral haven]

oh yea thats just freesync in general

thats a chip bug not a panel issue

[lyric hatch]

Also most good VA panels are stuck on crappy curved displays

[astral haven]

thats personal preference

and at least for gaming and desktop usage, curved is better

at least by objective metrics

[lyric hatch]

If you like having multiple monitors it looks trash

[astral haven]

i have multiple monitors, it works great

you do have to be careful to match radius or use flat panels on the sides but its actually pretty fantastic

[lyric hatch]

I use blender and photoshop pretty regularly so I'll give it a massive pass

[astral haven]

getting any oled under ~20k for media creation is pretty yikes

[neat vapor]

yo does anyone know how long customer support takes to respond to an email about getting an RMA?

[lyric hatch]

If it works for optimum tech it works for me

[astral haven]

do you really think you are on that level?

getting anything with abl as a beginner is a real bad idea

get an innocn

[lyric hatch]

Yeah clearly you never seen the new MLA panels

There is no white issues

[astral haven]

do you know what abl is?

and the issues are with anything that isnt pure white

at least with QD you dont have to worry about your pixels oversaturating and turning white

ionstar also was showing off a panel that had less than 20% abl and it was over 1k nits
it was only 27 inches but for content creation thats well more than enough

[lyric hatch]

Yeah I'm not that worried about ABL, QD also seem to have much worse longevity at least in RTINGS testing

[astral haven]

read the update

qd even without compensation still manages to be relatively ok, and as soon as you turn on the compensation cycles, it cleans right up just like every other oled

holy shit its much worse than i thought

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/qd-oled-vs-woled

[ashen spindle]

for my use it's by far more than I need

[astral haven]

yea but you have a qdoled, and you probably dont have the brightness very high

[ashen spindle]

yup like 38%

and dear god is hdr too much when late at night sometimes lol

[smoky frigate]

woled? more like whyled

[astral haven]

true rec2020 of 40% vs 50% on the qdoled
thats huuuuge

[lyric hatch]

My room way too bright for most of the advantages of QD-OLED

Better suited to WOLED

[astral haven]

as if lcd doesnt exist lol

what was it 10-20 lux where VA passes oled in terms of contrast?
someone posted the graph here a while ago

even TN with no local dimming ends up passing oled, but its alot higher, think over 100 lux

[lyric hatch]

Maybe if there more mini led options in the monitor space

[astral haven]

innocn is your friend (for content creation and light gaming)

[lyric hatch]

Would be if I didn't live in NZ

[smoky frigate]

do you hang upside-down in front of your computer?

[lyric hatch]

I do not but I do get plenty of sun

[astral haven]

yea any oled with that is gonna suck

and most lcds too

[smoky frigate]

very nice! this is how it looks where I live

[astral haven]

yall with your "green"

[smoky frigate]

found the city dweller

[astral haven]

i mean yes, but our hills are orange

[smoky frigate]

you live on mars ??

[astral haven]

and its only half flame retardant

[analog sinew]

german detected

[astral haven]

the other half is dead plants

[smoky frigate]

scheisse

[lyric hatch]

Me when I have my blinds down

[astral haven]

well better behind the monitor than directly hitting it

[lyric hatch]

I just want the best of both worlds but it's probably better just to get two separate monitors one for gaming the other for content creation

[astral haven]

which is also what i did

its alot cheaper to get a nice accurate hdr monitor if you dont also need hrr lel

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle

[astral haven]

whats the total now?

-2b +10b +8.5b?

[fickle ore]

@astral haven Not sure, even more recent

Hope its interest free lol

[astral haven]

probably something like that

[smoky frigate]

as if they'd pay it back lol

[fickle ore]

I think this is all of the CHIPS act for Intel tho

bc the total was "just" ~100B of which 39B was grants and 75B loans

[astral haven]

if they dont pay in cash, their facilities will get reposessed
the gov doesnt mess around lol

absolutely incredible amount of money

[fickle ore]

Yeah crazy

[astral haven]

reddit is tomorrow

[fickle ore]

thank american taxpayers lol

[pale sigil]

Wtf

[latent mural]

☠️

[smoky frigate]

and then for no reason at all, americans voted trump back into office

[astral haven]

wow its almost like it was a grant to avoid spending money overseas

and these facilities create alot more than 30k jobs, but intel is only responsible for 30k of them

the vast majority of jobs created are in supporting industries

also also this was a bill that passed, which means that congress had to approve it, and considering the makeup of congress now, nothing can pass without being bipartisan

[ashen spindle]

yeah its a lot of money but its fun how so much of it is loands not grants

[astral haven]

eh a low interest loan is basically a small grant

[ashen spindle]

if the business works out yes

[astral haven]

with interest rates being what they are now, the grants are actually pretty huge

[balmy vector]

This in general is honestly super interesting to me. Dunno why

[astral haven]

10b of loans for 1 year is worth 700m of interest
over 5 years its 4B at current rates...

intel would probably never take a 7% loan, so make it more like 5%, so ~2.8B

[chrome lava]

Left or right which is better in your opinion?

[astral haven]

top

[fair gull]

send original image

of the background

[chrome lava]

wait

[fair gull]

so ngl both are kinda far off but the right one is closer

still looks like its boosting colors a bit much

[astral haven]

Assuming the camera is accurate lol

[fair gull]

yeah idk what camera was used true

[smoky frigate]

from a purely subjective p.o.v, right is better

[fair gull]

or its calibration etc

but in general right has more color depth imo

the left one just looks flat imo

[astral haven]

I'd guess that the left is brighter and being overexposed by the phone

[fair gull]

idk about that

[astral haven]

Could also be terrible off axis performance

[fair gull]

like if id just have to go of the photo id pick the right one

[astral haven]

Same, but knowing how bad phones are at taking photos I'd say I dunno which is really better

[chrome lava]

iphone

13 pro

is a colorimeter worth it?

does it work properly

[astral haven]

How many digits will you make from color work annually

[chrome lava]

0,0000

to be exact

😄

the gremlin telling me its not colotaccurate 🤓

[unkempt lake]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-24-3-1

New amd driver

[astral haven]

Look up a review online and copy their settings

[fair gull]

also check if your monitor might have importable color profiles

some offer them and it does often result in quite ok colors

but the left one definitely needs some adjusting

[chrome lava]

there is someone having a profile i downloaded it

but im unable to open it

i click to open it but nth happens

idk if im doin smth wriong

[analog sinew]

is it a .icm file?

or what

[smoky frigate]

https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland/pull/104#issuecomment-2010292221

nvidia linux driver 555 with explicit sync support due may 15th

woo!

[chrome lava]

yes

[smoky frigate]

this means that wayland will be good on the nvidia driver, also in regards to VRR

[analog sinew]

should be able to just right click it, if not use color management from control panel/search bar

[chrome lava]

wow indeed it says install profile

but nothing happens when i do that

[analog sinew]

well it's just a profile

[chrome lava]

ok

[analog sinew]

it doesn't have any dialog or GUI or anything

[reef patrol]

Hmm...Corsair released new RGB fans. RX120's

Very tempting.

[analog sinew]

check in color management to make sure

or device manager should also show it as driver

[chrome lava]

lian li Tl fans apparently are very good in performance

and i think they look very good

also better software than icue imo

[smoky frigate]

the Poco F5 phone has.... an IR blaster ? what the fuck do you need that for?

[chrome lava]

will do, thanks

[reef patrol]

I already have QL fans from Corsair. This would mainly be about reducing cables from ... Hell.

Got 10 RGB fans, each with two wires, one main controller and two proxy boxes for the QLs

Without losing too much of the sideways RGB blind or of course performance.

[chrome lava]

oh man holy that shit should be forbidden

2 cable for one fan

[analog sinew]

boomer tv idk

[reef patrol]

That's how all fans do before we got the linked up standard

One wire for power, and one for the RGB - for each fan.

[chrome lava]

ik ik

[reef patrol]

Only trouble is...fans be pricey. Not going to be a fun discussion with the missus about buying these

Though I do have two fans that on occasion need a light lovetap to not grind

[chrome lava]

xD

[balmy sun]

guys i ordered the pcr plastic one is there a way to change the order to zinc alloy and pay the difference or i must cancel the order first and order a new one

[reef patrol]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail] asking to upgrade and we might be able to help

[balmy sun]

i sent to mails one from your website and other responded to yahoo mail but there is no response until now

two *

[reef patrol]

Response times are really hurting as a result of a mountain of emails from the 80HE launch.

We're clawing our way back to normality one email at a time.

[balmy sun]

ok thanks but i hope they respond soon as im afraid that founders campaign end and they tell me to cancel and order new one

[lyric hatch]

Im a sucker for a nice noctua fan

[sharp badger]

Don't really like the back on those RX120's

[timber mantle]

Current status at Wooting HQ

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-papers-workpressure-office-workplace-gif-18744235

[reef patrol]

Sadly no one makes a fan that looks like the QL that has Link.

[sharp badger]

Yeah, Lian Li have some nice RGB fans though, EK with the EK-Loop too, Phanteks D30 are ok looking but performance is better on the T30s but they don't have RGB

[chrome lava]

where can i apply

[fair gull]

lol people put malware snaps up and canonical team doesnt do anything?

what is this

[unkempt lake]

The thing isn't even out yet what are people finding reasons to email about? Payment issues i guess?

[reef patrol]

Ton of product questions, people wanting to make changes to their order, people wanting to cancel existing orders to get an 80HE instead.

[unkempt lake]

Canceling orders to get an 80he instead is so dumb, it just costs the company money in processing fees even tho the founder campaign was announced for months

Crazy how people lack reading comprehension xD

[reef patrol]

It is what it is. They do have the right. 🙂

[unkempt lake]

Well good luck dealing with all of it

🫡

[ashen spindle]

https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/amd-fsr-3-1-announced-at-gdc-2024-fsr-3-available-and-upcoming/ba-p/674027

[cursive summit]

Hmm.. DLSS3.5 + FSR3.1 for RTX 3000?

Cool

But no FSR2 improvements

[ashen spindle]

Decoupling FSR 3 upscaling from frame generation
so yes basically fsr2 improvements

[dense trench]

Anybody have the Asus PG32UCDM monitor? Never have used 4K before but have been considering picking a 4k monitor up lol

[cursive summit]

Wait, FSR3 had its own upscaler?

So wait, they are just succeeding FSR2 with.. FSR3.1?

That surely will not be confusing

[ashen spindle]

I think fsr2 is just going away entirely because whats the point of it

[cursive summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/neuralink/status/1770563939413496146

Hmm..

Doesn't look like a very.. medical or professional environment this patient is in

[chrome lava]

@analog sinew r u there

[silk perch]

How do I stop my Wooting from switching modes? In certain default modes it makes certain keys not do their original functionality and it’s throwing me off.

Or is there a way to keep only one mode on my wooting? I did not see a way to delete the other default modes in Wootility.

[cursive summit]

Don't press the mode button

[umbral heron]

Move your profile to first slot, so keyboard always boots to it, and unbind switch profile keys

[silk perch]

Thank you! How do I unbind the switch profiles key? Checking wootility

[umbral heron]

Either just move drag and drop them outside keyboard in Wootility or bind something else there

[silk perch]

Thank you!! That helped a lot 🙂

[fast mesa]

Is it possible to emulate mouse hid someway using the wooting software?

[astral haven]

Buttons yes movement no

[median mirage]

[severe phoenix]

https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/insulated-blue-light-emitting-diodes-could-banish-oled-burn-in-for-good

[wheat plume]

Typing on iPhone is so frustrating .-.

got to go to the second page to get common punctuation things like , . ! and ?
cant use the spacebar to scroll between letters. cant delete a whole word by swiping the backspace key either

[ashen spindle]

Scroll between letters?

[old marlin]

yea you can do that with gboard

you can move the cursor

[ashen spindle]

Idk what that means

[wheat plume]

yeah, on gBoard, you can swipe on the spacebar to scroll between letters in the word

yeah, move the cursor*

I forgot the word cursor

[ashen spindle]

You can move the cursor with space in iPhone..

[wheat plume]

can you??

I tried it and it didnt work

[ashen spindle]

Yes

[wheat plume]

is it off by default?

[ashen spindle]

No

[wheat plume]

🤔 Maybe this iPhone is not updated fully..its an iPhone XR

[ashen spindle]

I don’t even remember when it was not possible

[reef patrol]

So... check for an update?

[ashen spindle]

So I doubt it’s related to updates even

[wheat plume]

I would if it was my phone

my sister wants me to try to solve an issue on her phone

[ashen spindle]

Also I would wager instead of frustrating it’s mostly just being unfamiliar, I don’t even type much on phone but if android works differently or has stuff laid out in a different way I’d not be used to it either

[wheat plume]

I also love the swipe typingbetter on gBoard

its not the layout, its just missing the fucking punctuation .-. got to press the second layer button to access the damn . .-.

[rough patrol]

you need to hold space for a little bit

[wheat plume]

oh

hmm

[rough patrol]

itll give you a haptic click and then you can scroll using spacebar

[ashen spindle]

Just hit spacebar twice for a.

[wheat plume]

ok lemme try

aha!

[ashen spindle]

So not needed to go to second layer for that either

[wheat plume]

oo

like on gboard too xd

[latent mural]

hit alt + f4 :D

[ashen spindle]

Yes I shall hit the alt and f4 key on my phone

[latent mural]

yes!

[wheat plume]

if you have a keyboard attached to the phone, what would happen if you hit alt f4?

[latent mural]

nothing

[wheat plume]

o

[latent mural]

yeye

:]

[crystal halo]

I miss 3D Touch where you could just hard press anywhere on the keyboard and it’d start moving the cursor. Yeah I’ve gotten used to the spacebar method we have now, but gosh darn it I miss 3D Touch that was rad

Another really cool 3D Touch feature was hard pressing the backspace key made it delete characters faster :D

[ashen spindle]

Both features exist just hold it longer instead of press stronger

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/ShRbArSGq1U?si=8fmFfuR3uAhDuY4G

Taking one for the team

Gotta prove the naysayers wrong lol

[cursive summit]

A month is nowhere near enough lol

Shit like taskbar are highly likely to burn in over a few months

Like, these icons would 100% burn in unless you choose for the taskbar to hide itself, which I don't like that much

[ashen spindle]

Wow almost like that’s the reason he’s doing more than one month and it’s just the 1 month update

[cursive summit]

Sigh, content mills

[severe phoenix]

"Nvidia App (BETA) may impact frame rates (?CPU bound scenarios?) on some systems, this isn't a Nvidia driver issue"

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1bik2v6/game_ready_studio_driver_55186_faqdiscussion/kvkzfk9/

[alpine ibex]

have you not seen the rtings testing

[gentle osprey]

Nah I haven't bothered to check them, I kinda just came across this vid as I was browsing

Based on that vid tho, it's gonna take him like 1-2 years to see burn in

and it has a 3 year warranty

so

[alpine ibex]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results

[ashen spindle]

Rtings testing is doing static content for the most part which is different from using the screen for work

[gentle osprey]

TVs and Monitors are different

[ashen spindle]

So doesn’t cover the same aspects

Nah they also have some monitors

[gentle osprey]

Oh ok

I just saw TV and im like uhm

[alpine ibex]

static content is higher risk for burn in

[ashen spindle]

Yeah so if you see burn in you still don’t know if work usage would cause it

[alpine ibex]

they are simulating years worth of use

[ashen spindle]

It’s both useful tests

Yeah it’s a different approach

[alpine ibex]

i like their hardcore approach it shows what panel types burn in more

like iirc 8 month qd oleds were burning in worse than woleds and now woleds r burned in way more

[ashen spindle]

It also doesn’t represent the full picture since the exact same logos all the time might stress the pixel refresh more than different shorter scenarios of different static elements

Neither of these tests is just outright better it shows different results

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/BiZcyJPoDy0

[alpine ibex]

have you read what they test at all btw? https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test

[astral haven]

a taskbar + full white pages from email etc is almost as bad

[alpine ibex]

they r testing games as well

and using pixel refreshers

if they have it

[ashen spindle]

Well yes I never said it’s bad data or anything I’m saying it’s different test setup and it’s good to have both

[wheat plume]

....yikes

that camera plate

Xiaomi 14 Ultra

its basically a circular disc sticking out of the phone

[alpine ibex]

why is it so big..

[astral haven]

phone with the best camera hardware has a bunch of space for it surprise picachu

[wheat plume]

what Carmonben just said!

[alpine ibex]

lol

honestly

just make a thicker phone

[astral haven]

if you want a thicker phone you can just get a case for it

[wheat plume]

^

[alpine ibex]

true

[wheat plume]

Dont like the fake leather back though

[astral haven]

similar problem with the same solution lol

[wheat plume]

at least you get a nice finger rest to help the phone stay in your hand

[astral haven]

i really wish that samsung would follow in xiaomis footsteps and put the same resolution sensor on all their lenses

[alpine ibex]

i hate the edges wth

[astral haven]

why

[alpine ibex]

why is it thicker than the top and bottom looks weird

[cursive summit]

Ah, trash

[astral haven]

i see it like the leather wrapping around the top and bottom and the metal wrapping around the sides

kinda interlocking

[halcyon moss]

Samsung had a phone like that in the past. I thought it was silly back then as well.. But I want one now

[wheat plume]

🤔 this wont go away even when on a different virtual desktop

[modern belfry]

<@&490097707487330305> <@&375234916776017933> yo guys i've used my wooting 60he+ module for a month, and today it stopped working, after i looked at the keyboard, the usb c end of the cable and the usb c port on the keyboard were hot af and smelling burnt... im panicking and dont know what to do?

[marsh glade]

Could start by not pinging the entire company 😉

[shadow minnow]

Please contact wooting support at [e-mail] and don’t ping volunteers or woot team re this

[hollow carbon]

can you make a post in #1019755933959733258 ill help you there
also please do not ping (nvm was said)
(side note not official support)

[modern belfry]

sorry idk who to ping...

[marsh glade]

Nobody - email [e-mail]

[modern belfry]

just made a post

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/kzB6fHL_2Pg

I hate snaps

someone lost 490grand using one of the fake wallet apps .-.

and Canonical took down the snaps but then the VERY next day, they were uploaded again under a different account

Snap Store

• Proprietary Server hosted by Canonical
• NO human is involved with the app verification process
• No security checks involve humans looking at apps uploaded to the server

Why is Canonical trying to make all Ubuntu users use this shit?

Just because they seem to hate Flatpak for some reason?

This is more incompetent than Manjaro

[halcyon moss]

Flatpak has the same issue

[wheat plume]

Flatpak at least is human moderated

any app you upload there musst be inspected by a person

or multiple

and the server is not proprietary

you can host your own if you wanted to

[ashen spindle]

if you handle multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars and you already use linux but cant do basic shit like doing checksum comparison or anything, uhhhh yeah that's going to be a big part of your own fault imo

[wheat plume]

nah, the problem is Ubuntu, by default on the new Ubuntu versions, you cannot install apps via anything other than Snap if you dont use command line, even a lot of apps installed via apt in command line are redirected by the system to install the snap version instead

so no

I dont blame the user

[astral haven]

nah, the store is supposed to do that for you, and it was legitimately hosted on the store

[ashen spindle]

yeah if I want to joke around and by two stock options for 500$ perhaps

[wheat plume]

^
and that even using apt via command line forces the snaps versions of most popular apps cause Canonical be like that .-.

[ashen spindle]

if you deal with 500k I call that gross negligence on the user

[wheat plume]

they are a cryptocurrency user, probably not that smart :/

[astral haven]

i mean it is but there is some responsibility on the other side

[wheat plume]

most of it yeah

[ashen spindle]

big part of your own fault
did not say they are the only part at fault

and if you get to half a mil I would argue unless you get that from being trustfund baby who made 1 mil to half a mil, I don't think they are as stupid as most crypto bros

[astral haven]

i mean it doesnt take much brains to pump and dump, and if you do that a few times you can make that kind of money even starting off with a standard few grand in the bank

[gentle osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JXGVXk made this real quick for a friends GF, budget is around $1,500 USD, open to thoughts/opinions, I know I can opt for some cheaper parts like mobo and stuff, but she wants white (obvs)

[astral haven]

highly recommend trying to find a cheaper cooler

[ashen spindle]

remove the cpu cooler for one of the 30$ air coolers

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I looked at the peerless assassin too

Like $36

[astral haven]

its a 7600, even the peerless is overkill lol

[gentle osprey]

Yeah lol

Can get the AG400 or something

[astral haven]

i mean overkill on a cooler is nice too

[ashen spindle]

and for storage you can probably find a 2tb for similar price just dont have it be pcie4

[gentle osprey]

True yeah

Just gaming so

Don’t need anything crazy

[astral haven]

p3 plus is 120, pretty solid

[gentle osprey]

2TB?

[astral haven]

yep

[gentle osprey]

I assume

Nice

[astral haven]

its not fantastic

but its good enough

[gentle osprey]

Yeah, I mean 5000MB/s is plenty for todays games I feel like

[ashen spindle]

man, I should have gotten the 8tb drives I was looking at a few weeks ago for my future pc now they are all sold out at acceptable prices zzz

[astral haven]

its dramless qlc is the downside

inland tn470 is also dramless but its tlc for 135

and the performance plus is up to $140, seems to be the cheapest 2tb tlc dram option

oh wait no the hynix p41 platinum is probably the better option, its the same price

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/OPoWMXqq62Q

Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin

Basically glorified Google Assistant but dedicated hardware

[astral haven]

shocker

[wheat plume]

ikr

they claim to have over 200k preorders for these devices

mostly the Rabbit

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-scam-bitconnect-coin-cryptocurrency-mining-the-bitconnectcoin-community-gif-14481965

[fair gull]

bitconnect only reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhD6qHCADUQ

[astral haven]

i mean it is what they say it is, they just dont show how long it is to give answers, and they describe it exactly like a personal assistant

[astral haven]

also gotta remember that half of the population of the us has siri, not google assistant lol

[wheat plume]

and preorders are due to ship in 2 weeks and no one has been able to get hands on with them yet

Not even youtubers have gotten review samples

and if you go to get a demo in their HQ, you are only allowed to watch as the staff demo it for you

[wheat plume]

so, you saying this product might be better than Siri?

Actually, yeah...most likely :')

[astral haven]

it wont be

it also wont be better than google assistant

but it also will be better than both in many aspects

[wheat plume]

They also claim that the R1 can organise an entire trip for you meaing book flights, book hotels and all that shit LOL

which is ridiculous

and id never trust Ai with financial shit

Ai that can use my payments methods on my behalf to do things automatically for me? nope no no no

[astral haven]

ill bet $1000 that you cant find a financial institution that doesnt rely on some form of ai/ml

[wheat plume]

yep

[astral haven]

so its not never lol

[marsh glade]

This can be true at the same time as every single one of those institutions relying on COBOL to function

[astral haven]

yep

but the point is different things for different tasks

[ashen spindle]

they all have been using ai for a long time, they just arent using LLMs to fill in what people have on their account

[astral haven]

Now ofc Google has a better option than any of these now with gemini

But siri has a pretty bad answer lol

[astral haven]

ofc interesting that they dont recommend eastern europe 😛

🤔 immediately course corrects if you point it out

[wheat plume]

Kind of wild how Apple shoved the entire computer + speakers into the bottom bezel of the iMac

Can imagine how badly it thermal throttles

[crisp granite]

considering iMacs use the base Mx chips that can run PERFECTLY FINE without a fan as long as there's a decently sized heatsink, perfectly fine

[wheat plume]

base M3 throttles on the Air though

that is a lot thinner than the iMac also, so makes sense

[steep creek]

my gripe with llms is ive told it on so many occasions "you are wrong" even though its right then it recalculates the answers by making up something out of thin air

other times i have no idea what it even is outputting, for code

[halcyon moss]

My gripe with imacs is that the hardware doesn't outlive the screen and the screen becomes unusable..

And it's a good screen

[astral haven]

thats called corrigibility, and ill take correcting when its not wrong and correcting when its right over not correcting either time

eventually we want to get to polite pushback when it is right, and immediate course correct when its wrong, and gemini seems to be doing that atm

[steep creek]

yea i havent tried gemini as much, mostly bing and chatgpt and bing seems to be the worst for what ive been doing at least

i'd like it to be more confident when correct, correcting is fine but it needs to know if its outputting the right answer or not

[astral haven]

i mean that just happens as we provide feedback

RLHF requires F lel

[marsh glade]

Oh hey, RDDT went live

[astral haven]

anyone who participated and immediately sold made a decent amount of money lel

[marsh glade]

Opened at 51.70, half of that is 25.85, now it's time to hurry up and wait for a nice discount

[astral haven]

the ipo was $34 right?

yep
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/reddit-set-hotly-anticipated-debut-after-pricing-ipo-top-range-2024-03-21/

Wait, is this big jump in price from a bunch of institutions buying some so that they can sell options for this?
Options institutions can buy ipos right?

[marsh glade]

All it takes for price to jump from one value to another is for a single contract to be traded at the new price

So no, it has nothing to do with individuals, groups, or institutions buying

[astral haven]

whether that is 36m$ or 36m shares, its not just "a single contract"

[smoky frigate]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24105363/apple-doj-monopoly-lawsuit

[astral haven]

nice, now win and then go after microsoft and google

[marsh glade]

Duh? But the first trade was the first trade, and that was executed at a price.

[astral haven]

and it executed at a price $15+ higher than IPO why

considering ipo was yesterday?

[marsh glade]

Because that was determined to be the price at which to open

[astral haven]

that is a what not a why

im asking why

[marsh glade]

I can speculate as the reasoning behind that, but the only sure truth is what price has printed

[astral haven]

ok so speculate or dont, not answering the question while pretending to really annoys me and youve done that multiple times

[marsh glade]

The vague and generally useless, but accurate, answer is because the movement of price is a tool by which to encourage individuals to place orders on the books; whether pending orders to execute at market after price goes above or below any given level, or as a limit order to fill as liquidity providers offer price beyond the limit price

Simply put: manipulation

But you'll him and haw at the idea the markets are controlled to the cent, and that's fine. Feel free to keep searching for a narrative that you can apply after the fact to make sense of what price has already done

[astral haven]

are you intending to answer my question or troll

because it doesnt seem like you are making a joke

and im pretty sure you are responding to me

[marsh glade]

Sure am, and I'm not joking

[astral haven]

so do you think you answered my question?

[marsh glade]

No, I'm informing you that my opinion is that your question is fundamentally flawed

[astral haven]

that at least is an answer to the question

[astral haven]

you are aware that saying this is not what you said before?

[marsh glade]

Meh, agree to disagree on that. I feel I've been pretty consistent on my perspective of how the market, every market, books price.

[astral haven]

sure
but i didnt ask how markets book prices

i asked WHY this market booked this price

[marsh glade]

No, you asked if the market booked price higher because insitutions purchased

[astral haven]

yea and you didnt answer that either, so i asked a different question

[marsh glade]

To which I resonded that I have no answer, and that there's no answer to be had

[jagged river]

I have omen gaming hub installed,
However how do I turn off that stupid overlay?
It just randomly activates on the screen sometimes and I can't find a switch to turn it off

Google isn't any help either

[astral haven]

do you think that is what you said?

[astral haven]

at least before me pressuring you into giving that answer here

[marsh glade]

Sure do 👍

[fickle harness]

what type of keycaps the wooting 60he plus uses

[reef patrol]

#🌟│wooting80he message
Please don't copy paste questions into SEVERAL channels. Kind of rude ngl

[marsh glade]

Cherry MX cross stems

[wheat plume]

OMFH

[reef patrol]

Is your name Internet Explorer? Cause ..................... you slow

#🔌│tech message

[marsh glade]

Hey now, 20 minutes is pretty good

[reef patrol]

Yeah I guess that's fair. For once it's not a three day old newspiece regurtitated over and over 😄

In other news - LTT using AI for internal video search. It is uhh... very early days 😄

[rough patrol]

guys did you know they released windows 11?

[marsh glade]

Pfffff WAN show was so last Saturday

[reef patrol]

This is straight from an hour old video. I don't WAN show if I can avoid it. So much filler even with topic timestamps 😄

[marsh glade]

I put it on as a podcast Saturday mornings when I'm recovering from a hangover doing stuff around the house

[rough osprey]

whaat 😳

[reef patrol]

I already have that timeslot reserved by hundreds of hours of D&D campaigns 😄

[wheat plume]

TIL the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 was made by Samsung

which means it has shit battery life and thermal management

[astral haven]

manufactured

[wheat plume]

yeah

[fair gull]

wha

qualcomm still designed the silicon

[astral haven]

^

same was true for the 888 as well

[fair gull]

nothing about samsung making it means shit battery life or thermal management

[astral haven]

i mean the samsung nodes are pretty shit for efficiency

[wheat plume]

Samsung make Exynos and those are garbage

[astral haven]

that is unrelated

[wheat plume]

compared to regular snapdragon

[fair gull]

thats a samsung designed silicon

[astral haven]

exynos used to be drastically better than qualcomm

[fair gull]

lana pls stop talking about stuff you evidentally have 0 clue about

[wheat plume]

yehh

I just had the laptop die on me and I plugged it in and now it says the battery is at 98%
which is clearly BS
and this shit was happening for the last like 2 days

:/

cause it died when it said there was 34% charge

[astral haven]

Charge to 100% then unplug and drain to zero
Repeat
That should recalibrate the bms

[wheat plume]

it says its at 100% now :/

but I bet if I unplug it, itll die in like 10 minutes or so

[astral haven]

Leave it plugged in for a while at 100%

[wheat plume]

ok...

[astral haven]

Can you check the voltage?

[wheat plume]

not really sure how I can

unless there is a software way to do so

[astral haven]

Hwinfo64

[wheat plume]

11.55V

[astral haven]

That's somewhat low

Keep an eye on that to see if it goes above 12

[wheat plume]

oh?

why 12?

[astral haven]

Lithium usually does 4v pretty easily

If you are near 100%, the only multiple of 4 nearby is 12

[wheat plume]

Would me using a different charger than the one it came with cause battery issues?

[astral haven]

Not directly

[crimson wigeon]

That definitely is a very unique serial number

[wheat plume]

cause it came with a 65W charger with a long cable and massive brick halfway along it

and now im using a smaller one that is 65W also but idk

[wheat plume]

LOL

[astral haven]

If you unplug the charger, does the voltage on the battery drop?

[wheat plume]

oh, lemme check

nope

[astral haven]

Is the voltage fluctuating

[wheat plume]

nope

11.55

[astral haven]

You might have to rerun the command?

[wheat plume]

I did a lot

[astral haven]

Welp
Inconclusive then

[wheat plume]

;-;

[astral haven]

Leave it plugged in a while

"charging" does change right?

[wheat plume]

I assume so...

after a while, the power light on the side of the laptop turns green for fully charged

but I think thats tied to whatever value the OS says

though maybe not...it works when the laptop is powered off too

[astral haven]

Just leave it for a while and see if it increases eventually

It's possible that 3.95v or whatever it is is the limit that whoever it was chose but 🤷

[wheat plume]

I notice in the BIOS that fast charging is off and I turned it on about a week ago

and now this is happenign for the first time ever

Maybe I should have left that off :/

its off again now

[cursive summit]

"Internal video search"?

Why not just.. search with something like https://filmot.com/?

[reef patrol]

Because... they only need it locally? Also sponsors and AI fun

[cursive summit]

I mean yeah but.. ehh?

AI isn't necessarily free

A caption searcher is

[ashen spindle]

because why search on youtube when you have it locally, have material thats not on youtube

[reef patrol]

It looks at objects, not captions

[ashen spindle]

and for anything more than ctrl+f a subtitle it will be cheaper doing it locally

[cursive summit]

I kinda get it for privated videos

[ashen spindle]

also if its for finding something in the video and not in the subtitles having the raw footage means higher quality so its easier to find

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/hackers-can-extract-secret-encryption-keys-from-apples-mac-chips/

ah was wondering when we get the first side channel on Mx

[cursive summit]

Encryption keys?

So.. Mac homebrew?

[ashen spindle]

uhhh no clue how you come to that conclusion

usually it helps reading the article to understand what something is about

[umbral heron]

Wawa! M1 broken

[cursive summit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-blindsight-computer-chip-b2516427.html

Hmm

Whenever Musk has anything attached to his name I am rather doubtful

But OpenAI did, granted it became cool after he fucked off

I suppose neuralink has some major opponents but they seem genuine and leading the frontier

Vision for the blind is a respectful endeavor

[ashen spindle]

there also have been trial already with other solutions that are working on it and some can already partially restore it in trial runs so its not something he's inventing once again

[cursive summit]

Let's hope for now we stay at "the blind", "the mute", "the disabled" and such

And not everyone else

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/5Dw3aKbw5Wo

Is this why so many music producers prefer Edge browser? other than Safari, its the only one that supports Atmos™️

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/iswupdates/status/1770901451159556487?s=46 lol

iSoftware Updates (@iSWUpdates) on X

Looks like Apple accidentally set the deployment dates for the 2.0.73 AirTag firmware to "m/d/24" instead of "m/d/2024" that has used in previous versions and which the AirTag update system uses as date format.

As a result, AirTags think the deployment dates are in the year 24…

Twitter · Mar 21, 2024, 7:53 PM

[wheat plume]

ah yeah, this brings me back to when I saw Pink Floyd live when Roger Waters just started flying around my head
Benn Jordan - Dolby Atmos audio review

YEAH LOL

[steep creek]

lol wonder if they will upgrade those performance graphs on the website now, if the performance toll is noticeable

[astral haven]

ofc not, performance graphs that apple shows are never for common apps that all computers have accelerators for (basically every crypto function) they only show off the performance in their highly accelerated stuff like prores and metal

geekbench might take a hit tho

[steep creek]

Yeah the graph is already on the verge of being unrealistic, I don’t have much hope lol

[astral haven]

"on the verge" lol

[steep creek]

[astral haven]

apple isnt intel, where they show mostly only good examples, some average and 1 or 2 bad to make it seem like they are being fair
apple only shows the best example, removes all marking from the graph, and displays that in a way that they never say is an average case but would lead a normal user to believe it

[steep creek]

Yeah and to add to that, they don’t specify what they’re testing against that well, just say for example “versus intel core i9” with no more details

[astral haven]

eh they usually say vs x year old apple product

[steep creek]

Yea true but compared to non apple products

Like the case of the iPad m1 I believe, they claimed it was 80% something faster than all windows laptops / computers lol

[astral haven]

here they show the full details of the system

[steep creek]

Oh wow okay that was more detailed than I remember

[astral haven]

yep but theres still absolutely zero info

[steep creek]

Yeah

[halcyon comet]

How hard would it be to make a wooting pcb in a mouse shape with lekker switches tight to where the slightest force click the mouse? Too much? idk I'm just think too hard lol

[steep creek]

I can’t find that iPad example but I’m pretty sure they said it in either the keynote or somewhere on the website

[astral haven]

whats a computer lol

[astral haven]

why lekker

[steep creek]

Yea probably not defined

[halcyon comet]

idk'

I'm spit balling

Probably would not work as well tbh but yea

[steep creek]

Idk if you can get a wooting pcb to work that easily lol, maybe custom would be better but that’s also hard

[halcyon comet]

ye

wooting mouse would be dope

[steep creek]

I am so done with embedded systems, lab work made me burn out

[umbral heron]

Just duck tape UwU to your current mouse

[halcyon comet]

Maybe

lol

[astral haven]

duct

[umbral heron]

[astral haven]

duck tape is a ™️ that came after the original name

[umbral heron]

I didn't even know it was a brand

[astral haven]

were you aware that hoover and kleenex were brands?

[umbral heron]

That I know, but we don't have those brands around here

[astral haven]

do you even have duck tape?

[umbral heron]

I don't think so? For sure we have tesa and 3M ones

[astral haven]

lel

[steep creek]

It’s called gaffateip here lol

[umbral heron]

Here we just call it szara taśma - literally gray tape

[astral haven]

technically thats a different thing

called gaffer tape

[mild dome]

Duck Tape is what people refer to as it uses Cotton Duck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_duck

[steep creek]

Yeap just languages being weird

[mild dome]

Duct Tape is different

[astral haven]

rather than strings under regular (polymer) tape, gaffer tape is supposed to be cloth with glue on it effectively

[steep creek]

Or I guess if you want to be more accurate it’s sølvteip (silver tape) but in stores I see duct tape being called gaffateip

[mild dome]

At least in Australia Duct tape has not cotton backing at all, making it quite weak

[astral haven]

not even strings?

[mild dome]

Not usually, traditionally it's just a sorta stretchy plastic, but that seems to be changing, probably because customer buy it expecting it to be like the Duck/Duct tape on tv
It looks like since "Duck Tape" has become a brand other manufacturers called their versions duct tape

Even though it's not used for ducting. Really the naming of this tape seems weird

[astral haven]

yep, ducting these days usually uses aluminum tape

[mild dome]

Even when Duck tape was invented it wasn't used for Ducting or even ||taping ducks together||, it was used for shoes (though this was a super primitive form of it), then a more modern version was produced for WW2

[astral haven]

*duct lel

duck tape was originally full cloth no polymers

what we have now is duct tape which is plastic layer, then string, then glue

[astral haven]

duck tape later gaffers tape is based on this stuff

[cursive summit]

I suppose nobody posted https://youtu.be/0_zScV_cVug yet

More financial sector BS and just cool tech

[analog sinew]

huang is borderline psychotic

[cursive summit]

Huang is just silly

But he is what, one of the richest people in the world now?

I can allow him to enjoy himself even if he talks nonsense

He does have charisma to him to sell products well

[mild dome]

Nvidia is def a bubble at the moment yeah? Feels like it's going to pop so hard we'll get another financial crisis

[cursive summit]

Nvidia has to pop

But then again I thought they'd pop when they were at 300-400

NV is just so damn overvalued

[balmy vector]

yeah theyre grossly overvalued

[ashen spindle]

Looks like GTC also had something nice from micron, say hello to your future pc memory

[halcyon moss]

i wonder how it will go 🙂

[crimson wigeon]

Why the bump

[balmy vector]

looks funny

[ashen spindle]

Idk why the bump and not rectangle shaped

Might be cheaper to just put one corner there for components instead of having a much wider pcb

[analog sinew]

rip cooler clearance

[ashen spindle]

?

You screw them into the board they are not dimms

Clearance issues won’t exist anymore

[halcyon moss]

i guess the bump is to save space on the mounting board

[cursive summit]

Isn't this a Samsung invention?

LPCAMM2 has been known for quite a bit

Although to this day I don't really get it

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/dram/module/lpcamm2/

[umbral heron]

CAMM was developed* by Dell

[cursive summit]

It's using "mobile memory" for desktop?

Is this meant to be "built-in" RAM of sorts? Kinda just comes in your mobo as soldered/unsoldered package?

[umbral heron]

Nah, I think it'll just use land grid array instead of edge connector
Why else there would be screw slots there?

Shorter traces = higher speed basically

[ashen spindle]

^

[cursive summit]

Just... give me HBM3E

HBMify my GPU and CPU

[ashen spindle]

You want to pay more for worse gaming performance? Go ahead

[still loom]

I really don't see AI dying any time soon tbh 😅

[umbral heron]

Umm... MI300X...

[ashen spindle]

Those things are not mutually exclusive

Internet didn’t shut down after the dotcom bubble either

Ai won’t disappear after a crash either

[umbral heron]

It'll just become sentient

[gleaming oxide]

I have technical problems and run out of ideas, can I post it here?

[umbral heron]

Sure, or in #1019755933959733258

[gleaming oxide]

I think it’s more for tech talk cause it’s not about my wooting, just in general sth is broken and we ran completely out of ideas…

Old:
3600x, 16 gb 3000cl15, 5600xt, MSI x470 gaming pro max, m.2 and 2tb ssd
upgraded:
32 gb 3600cl18 (not supported for AM4 in 3600, officially supported at 3444 so clocked down to 3200cl18 (xmp not changed)
4070 factory oc (manually underclocked and undervolted)

1: Had problems at the start cause AMD cleanup did a lousy job. Used DDU to uninstall AMD and NVIDIA before installing NVIDIA again
2: Had problems with 3600CL18 as expected then underclocked first to 3200, then to 3000 due to random crashes and bluescreens.

All of this took a ton of time already. Downloading games before had a ton of crashes and errors which led me to lower the ram clock hard. Also had corrupt files after updates and stuff... tweaked around and hoped everything is fine...

3 days ago I downloaded Hogwarts legacy to my D Drive (ssd 2tb) while playing Manifold garden. it crashed 2 times. I checked the files and after the repair all seemed fine. But for some reason while playing Hogwarts it crashed pretty much once per hour due to "The description for Event ID 0 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found"
We installed the newest bios and chipset drivers. Ran tests and ran it at 3200cl18. I installed Horizon today (120gb) on my C-Drive (M.2) without any issue. It seemed like the updates might have helped or that the D ssd is not keeping up with the timings or interfering or sth.
I then played Destiny for an hour and had a crash again with "vlddmkm cannot be found"
I then updated the NVIDIA driver which caused blue screen with „Stop Code Memory Management“ implying that the Ram is causing issues. Windows Ram diagnostic scan said sth is wrong with my hardware and I should contact the producer.

So its the ram!!!
Problem solved...
not...

I put in my old memory I used for 4 years normally 3000cl15 again, played hogwarts and again, after 1 hour, crash with "nvlddmkm cannot be found"
However, windows scan says with the old ram everything is fine…

My PC says its the RAM, but the old one has the same issues. BIOS and Chipset updates didnt help. Cruicial Storage Executive says both SSDs are fine. Its not just Hogwarts its also Destiny. Sometimes even Firefox tabs crash...
like...

And yes I ran windows scans and somtimes they say sth is corrupt and then fixed it.
If it was defect ram it would make sense, but the same error came up on my old ram...

My next assumption would be the new ram is defect and also destroyed the driver

[still loom]

holy

Have you tried different RAM?

[gleaming oxide]

Yh, we are running out of ideas… when I installed everything last Christmas we had a ton of problems. Memtest86 had an error after 10 minutes but no more errors for a total of now 7 hours…

[still loom]

A game like Hogwarts Legacy is pretty prone to crashing tbh

[gleaming oxide]

Yh, my old ram had the same crash with the NVIDIA driver, but nothing else

[gleaming oxide]

Destiny had the same crash

[umbral heron]

My bet is on Windows clashing with Nvidia driver - try to turn off Fast Startup in Windows, power cycle PC, fully remove all drivers, power cycle PC, install them again, and power cycle again
Fresh Windows installation might also help

[gleaming oxide]

Would that also be the reason for the stop code memory management and stuff like Firefox tabs crashing, game installations crashing and checking games for errors crashing?

[still loom]

I mean from what you're saying it could be a lot of things... you'd have to test individual parts

i.e. your storage, your GPU

You say that a scan is finding corrupt data somewhere, there could be an issue with your storage device

[gleaming oxide]

Do u mean Ram or ssd?

[still loom]

SSD

From what you're saying there's indicators it could be the storage... i.e. files not being able to be found, corrupted files found

Or data within files

[mild dome]

Nvidia is making bank on AI, but not that much bank. You gotta compare profit to share price ratio
And I know it doesn't need to match 100%, but Nvidia is going to have increasing competition from AMD, Intel, Amazon, IBM, and about a dozen other smaller companies making their own AI accelerators

[gleaming oxide]

Yh, we had the C as suspect because of that and the D because the games when installing to that also crash

Crucial software said they were in good health btw

[still loom]

But it's a huge growing market and nvidia have the market share by a long way just like GPUs

That has to be the main driving force behind the increase in market cap

[mild dome]

It's also a good driving force for bubble formation

Like I am not saying it has to pop now, but at some point someone is going to say "This isn't worth THAT much" and it'll crash

[still loom]

I mean the same thing can be said for GPUs, right? Nvidia will have competition for market share because of their price to performance ratio

But it hasn't changed it much

[mild dome]

the GPU market has slimmer margins, Intel only jumped in because they saw the AI craze coming

[still loom]

Well yeah it's for sure a market you can easily point at and say it can burst There's no doubt about that

But.... will it is the question

The constant improvements in AI and how that will explode over the next 10 years says you can also point to it and say it won't burst

[mild dome]

Like Margins in enterprise markets are crazy, especially when everyone wants you chip, however once again AMD has revealed their accelerator, Intel will be showing off something soon, Amazon and Google already have their inhouse solutions

Do you know what a bubble is?

[gleaming oxide]

Could windows 11 help?

[umbral heron]

Full wipe and fresh install, be it of 10 or 11 - you'd be surprised how many problems it solves

[mild dome]

Cause it sounds like you don't. Read up on the craziness of the dot.com bubble and you'll see the AI bubble is just as crazy
It's not that AI isn't a useful tool, it's that investors are jumping on a bandwagon for technology they do not understand

[still loom]

https://www.thestreet.com/memestocks/others/why-nvidia-stock-isnt-in-a-bubble#:~:text=Many may argue that Nvidia's,as AI and data centers.

You'll also read the opposite

Depends where you're reading

[ashen spindle]

The bubble will pop if VC funds dry up and you can’t monetize it, in-house solutions for google or Amazon are irrelevant because it’s such a small part lol

[still loom]

That's an opinion but it's pretty much factual that AI plays a large part in most industries, especially financial

[ashen spindle]

That article correctly says there is demand so the price of the stock makes sense but if the demand isn’t there anymore he also points out it will drop

[mild dome]

"However, investors should be aware of the lack of a margin of safety and Nvidia's ongoing need to exceed expectations to sustain its current valuation. If something goes differently than planned — such as more intense competition leading to a significant decline in market share — there will also be a drop in Nvidia's stock.

(Disclaimers: this is not investment advice. The author may be long one or more stocks mentioned in this report. Also, the article may contain affiliate links. These partnerships do not influence editorial content)"

So basically "It's not a bubble, but if it wobbles, it'll fall hard

[still loom]

I'm not saying it can't burst and drop heavily 😅

But it has a good base

[mild dome]

I am just pointing out the article kills it's own point ||And also has a disclaimer pointing out the person writing it might be financially motivated to make you believe the article's title||

[cobalt rivet]

What ita difference 80he vs 60he

[still loom]

It's just covering itself by saying of course it can burst

Because anything can

[ashen spindle]

About 20

Just different formfactor

[mild dome]

It really seems like you don't understand what a bubble is. Well good luck

[cobalt rivet]

Only 20 ? 8kHz ?

[ashen spindle]

8khz won’t make a big difference

Just get whatever size of keyboard you prefer to use

[cobalt rivet]

Okei Thanks because I want f1 - f 10 and ⬅️➡️⬆️⬇️

[mild dome]

Time for 16khz mice

[umbral heron]

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
...
⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️

[balmy vector]

⬆️➡️⬇️➡️

[still loom]

I don't own or run nvidia, I don't care much for it's stock price 😅 All I know is they have years on years of R&D ahead of those competitors you may think that will try to compete

It will be extremely hard for them

They might be able to push out similar performance with a tremendous effort but will the efficiency be anywhere near as good? Likely not for a long time

Won't happen any time soon anyway, but sure one day

[marsh pewter]

me when running from hulks (my friends are yelling at me to reinforce them)

[balmy vector]

I be dropping airstrikes at my feet before sprinting for my life

[ashen spindle]

Well, not compared to AMD atm but certainly the rest

[still loom]

Even for AMD... AMD have never really focused on AI, they focus mainly on price to performance in the GPUs minus the AI tech 😅

And even for them to get that price to performance ratio the energy efficiency is off

Not saying they are bad but they are very much behind in that department

[ashen spindle]

uh no, mi300x is way ahead of what nvidia showed of as "never done before" hardware

what they currently do in dGPU for gaming is something else

and what the upcoming 2 die blackwell product has is essentially something that amd did with mi250x, just a little bit better