🔌│tech

[fickle ore]

It allows them to leverage margin advantage, not necessarily node advantage yet. But I haven't followed so closely which fab will lead in 2024 onwards

[ashen spindle]

well yeah, but back to the thing about competing, no margin advantage makes it harder to compete if the rest of the product isn't up to par

[fickle ore]

Yep, Would be interesting to learn why they booked from TSM. Maybe they reserve their capacity for cpus

[sharp badger]

Got any pictures? 🤔

[fickle ore]

I just think amd sucks eventho I own it too lmao

[ashen spindle]

well in cpus they lead, I have no delusions that they overtake nvidia in a gen or two

but I think they are good enough to be an option rather than only exist to make nvidia prices lower

[fickle ore]

take over nvidia in gpus?

[ashen spindle]

I dont think its happening is what I'm saying

mostly because I think they will have diverging paths

nvidia focusing on AI and amd on HPC

[fickle ore]

Oh, yeah will see. I'm banking on Intel doing something cool to shake up the GPU Game

[old marlin]

I mean if it can help their product it is prob a good idea to outsource

esp with where they are at atm

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah definitely

but that was in relation to the recent discussion we had if they can do better than amd etc. in gpus

[gusty kiln]

Wonder if/when AMD leans hard into ecosystem advantages

But giving up nvidia gpus is a neat impossible hurdle for some people

[astral haven]

they tried hard with sam

and im really shocked how few people lambasted them for it

[gusty kiln]

Yeah SAM was dumb af

Literally just rebranding

[ashen spindle]

well they did create it

the pcie feature got added from amd working on it

so its not a rebranding of something they didnt work on

[astral haven]

lolwut

my xeon phi from 2009 had rebar...

[ashen spindle]

yes and?

I didnt say it got added when they used it under the sam branding

if you look at the document of the implementation from pcisig the people wokring on it to get it in were amd

[astral haven]

"Created by Intel Dell HP IBM"

dont see amd there

[ashen spindle]

fucking hell the recompression makes that look so pixelated and painfull for the eyes when you dont enlarge it

[astral haven]

hunh alrighty then

did not know

[ashen spindle]

doesnt help that the pcisig website needs an account to view the stuff xd

[astral haven]

however variable bar size is aloooot older than that

it was part of the base pcie spec

i wonder what amd changed?

[ashen spindle]

yeah but afaik this is specifically for allowing the full range and not just variable range or something like it

[astral haven]

?

[ashen spindle]

the version before this doesnt support the entire address space

[astral haven]

afaik all it allows is changing the bar size on the fly, which we still dont actually use

[astral haven]

bar size is still relatively limited in terms of how big you can make it, but practically speaking we dont really need more than 2 exabytes of total addressable space

it might become a problem when we start using nvme to map 1:1 into memory, but thats some time off

and thatll only be a problem when you are dealing with nvof endpoints

[ashen spindle]

well yeah, with vrams like we have them now we dont need terabyte address space, but according to this the versions before only had 512gb allowed

maybe it was some 32bit adjustment they added idk

I cant really look into it since I cba making a pci member account for this

[astral haven]

thats just 1 device tho

and that still isnt useable memory, thats just the amount that the host can directly edit

[ashen spindle]

that is also in 3.x so a change after amd submitted proposed changes so whatever they are using is already part of the spec by this is what I mean

[astral haven]

and many devices have multiple bars, my 100g nic for example I believe has 16?

regardless amd didnt invent the idea

and they were by far not the first to use it on a gpu

[ashen spindle]

oh sure, it just seems they worked on it and so I think its fine to do some marketing without it being claimed as their own that they never worked on

[astral haven]

sure but bsing about synergy when it was more just poor drivers to begin with I thought would get them lambasted

but everyone loves an underdog story

[ashen spindle]

Ehh since it also benefits Nvidia and intel I don’t think it’s just driver inefficiencies

[astral haven]

it benefits nvidia significantly less

and intels biggest problem is drivers

and with nvidia, there are significant regressions

[ashen spindle]

And in the end if it makes it better for consumers it would be weird to criticize too hard. You don’t want good drivers to have the drivers be good, you want the result to be good

[astral haven]

sure but lets say that nvidia released a feature that does work fine on any motherboard, but then advertises it as only working with intel's most recent generation despite it working identically on older stuff and having more benefit there, they would be reamed for it

and especially if it works just as well on amd

im not bashing amd for this, they did an excellent job, and it turned out better than i expected

but the community reaction was definetly alooooooot tamer than i expected

[ashen spindle]

fair

[sharp badger]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-gaming-console-is-actually-real-features-ryzen-apu-and-supports-rtx-4090-external-gpu The "joke" turned real

[ashen spindle]

think because it more complex to get the details of it right and yeah it came when amd needed something to get back up

[astral haven]

did they tho?

even without rebar, driver improvements have been massive

and their gpus are the most competitive they have been in 8 years ignoring crypto

[gusty kiln]

Amd still don't have a gotcha feature over nvidia

[astral haven]

being cheaper?
lol

[gusty kiln]

Kek

Still doesn't help with adoption rate

[astral haven]

the difference is now they actually are often slightly better performance for cheaper

[ashen spindle]

well at the time it wasnt a stable driver really, was still in the beginning

[astral haven]

yes but they could have buckled down and hired the new driver team a few months earlier for example to get them on for 5000 series

[fickle ore]

They have had at many times

It's just Nvidia dusts out the same ones a few weeks or a month later

AMD gets them moving

One particular one, that was less known, was having message signaled interrupt mode enabled by default for years, while Nvidia turned it on during 3xxx release

People complained about DPC latency for nearly a decade, before NV did it and they only did it bc AMD was getting too close so they had to edge a few more %

[astral haven]

thats not a feature of the gpu, its just part of how pcie works, and it didnt have any real impact besides making it less convenient to use consumer gpus on servers

fortunately nvidia made up for that by removing some vfio limitations

[fickle ore]

No, it's a feature of a graphics driver and NV was lacking for a decade

[astral haven]

the only feature that im aware of that amd had over nvidia was asymmetric multigpu, and at the time it was very nice for multimonitor setups

[astral haven]

thats like calling windows desktop icons a "feature of the graphics driver"

[fickle ore]

Im not gonna argue with you, bc it's pointless. The thing is NV was lacking and AMD had a feature edge there.

But it was only known in the right circles

[astral haven]

🤷 nvidia had it, it was just off because it was not good for performance

[fickle ore]

I mean jesus christ if it's disabled and nobody was aware of it, and it regresses performance, it's same as NOT HAVING it!

[astral haven]

yea, they didnt enable it until people started caring about dpc latency (which is btw not a metric that should be a target)

but because it looks good for them to pass the torch to microsoft to handle the slowdown at the kernel level, they caved and did it

[fickle ore]

Well I'm sure DPC latency has a correlation to 0.1 % lows

[astral haven]

ive seen the placebo effect numerically change 1% low benchmark results

i can imagine it being 10x easier to effect .1% lows

[fickle ore]

Perhaps, but there's at least that. AMD was also first to anti-lag, but nvidia put out low lag ultra shortly after that as well

Were they the first to integer scaling too?

[astral haven]

probably?

[fickle ore]

Anyway Nvidia releases the same thing just 2 weeks after everything AMD does lol

[astral haven]

also amds mousemovement based render scaling is genius and i do wish nvidia would copy that despite the awful optics

but im not gonna say that to nvidia because i want them to instead do mouse movement based reprojection

[vagrant pagoda]

Steam deck will make a huge difference in amd game support

[astral haven]

except it wont bc amd isnt using proton on windows (yet)

intel is still trying

[crisp granite]

3DFX will though

just you wait

https://tenor.com/view/oakdice-runescape-gif-18004007

[normal gale]

would these keycaps fit on a 60he? (the keyboard is anne pro 2)

idk if their keycap sizes are the same

[crisp granite]

probably
maybe with the help of hot glue idk
maybe ask elsewhere next time

like #🔧│keyboard_modding

[normal gale]

i cant type there for some reason i tried

[crisp granite]

it breaks into two separate threads

pick the relevant thread, 60HE or 2HE
and then you can type in that

[normal gale]

ohh nvm mb

[vagrant pagoda]

That doesn't affect game support though if the game is vulkan

[astral haven]

big if right there

[vagrant pagoda]

True

[astral haven]

come on everyone, we need full back touchpads with hover capability, current keyboard options are awful, and a complete keyboard setup like they have on ergo keyboards would be pretty sweet

hover is needed so that you can see where your fingers are while learning

i didnt know psvita had blind typing?

https://blog.google/products/android/braille-keyboard/
im talking this but on the back of the board and a complete keyboard for non blind people

git gud at using the touchscreen?

[crisp granite]

ugh

fingerprinting galore

gonna have the most oily, smudgy looking screen of all time

yuck

[true quest]

imagine needing to remove your hand to interact with your device in a semi effective way

[astral haven]

skill issue

[astral haven]

just have longer thumbs /s

[true quest]

i will attach all of my toes to my thumbs

[astral haven]

nah i use my deck a decent bit, just not for games that have needed anything beyond what can be dealt with within of steam

the rog is gonna at least be running windows right?

virtual touchpad on windows is the best way to navigate a proper full desktop that ive found

[sharp badger]

Apparently, if they don't change anything until release 😅

[astral haven]

would be challenging to drain even a pair of aas in just 40 minutes lmao

yea but with modern batteries? youd get at least an hour

but yea wouldnt be worried about battery

linux has no advantage in games

the only linux advantage is how stripped down it is stock...

[gusty kiln]

Lol you can attach the weird mobile 4090 with the rog ally

[astral haven]

heck ye!!!

[gusty kiln]

Using pcie 3.0 x8

[astral haven]

they downgraded to 3.0 on the ally?

sad

[gusty kiln]

At least it's not thunderbolt

[astral haven]

eh

thunderbolt is alot more convenient

and youd be shocked how good it is

[gusty kiln]

This combo could be a desktop replacement

[astral haven]

people are always like "wow thunderbolt is so shit
look at these benchmarks"
laptop 15w cpu + thunderbolt
desktop 100w cpu + x16
-_-

i "upgraded" from laptop to desktop and gained very very little since i kept the exact same cpu and gpu

[gusty kiln]

Feel like only macbooks do well on the used market

Windows laptops gotta undercut a lot

I like the i/o on the back side

Think the lenovo laptops have that as well

I'm eyeing to replace my current laptop with a framework 16

Excited for that to come out

Wonder how much the gpu module will cost

And from who

[old marlin]

only thing I would use a camera on a laptop for is windows hello

[gusty kiln]

Screen looks nice, the only negative about the framework 16 is that it looks like a standard 16:9 display

[old marlin]

aaaaand

only last gen cpus

big rip

[gusty kiln]

Wait really?

Isn't the 13 getting ryzen 7000 mobile?

[old marlin]

the framework yes

the starfighter is not

[gusty kiln]

Ahhh ok

The rog ally seems to be using ryzen 7000

[old marlin]

also a starfighter

[old marlin]

nothing specified yet

glad to see it has some beefier cooling than a steamdeck though

[old marlin]

not exaclty a positive relation btw

yea costed a lot of money

never got fully fixed

had multiple deadly accidents

including one where 4 people died at once in a show

which was in celebration of the first entire squadron being delivered

in a timespan of 5 years it had 27 crashes and 17 fatalities

just in the german military

[severe phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NZNDMKC?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_3RZA2G2D09V7BKA5HWJ9

If anyone needs more for their NAS

[astral haven]

used hdds kinda sketch not gonna lie

[severe phoenix]

Renewed, you can always do a deep dive and examine them. A lot of times they have under 100 hours used.

Which is basically nothing

[astral haven]

yep and theres never been a way to rewrite smart data /s

[severe phoenix]

lol

[astral haven]

still a good price, great for a gigantic nas

[pale sigil]

My Oracle server got shut down no notice

and free tier cannot contact support

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

I really should get around and update my server

think thats still running debian jessie with support ended 2020 lol

[pale sigil]

It's all up and running again

But still sucked lol

Thankfully all I had to do was change the IP in cloudflare

[pale sigil]

Lol I think my laptop is thermally shitting itself

If just randomly froze and rebooted after 5s

Genuinely impressed with this rtx 3050 though, I'm playing D2 low at 2560x1600 and depending on planet it's up to 120fps but 60 min

[astral haven]

Ye the 3050 is kinda mid on desktop but on laptop? Heck ye

[midnight sluice]

i dont see the square layer key

[empty wren]

This is the square aka fn if you have not remapped it

[crisp granite]

what car is that?

Purosangue?

ugh
I test drove one last year

while car shopping

either that or I'm confusing it with another mazda

idk, either way, it was a mazda SUV, and it felt just as shit as the rental CX-3

felt kinda flimsy
didn't like how it handled, engine felt pretty weak
it felt like toy

was honestly on the verge of buying a Jeep Grand Cherokee then tbh

decided for a Durango last minute because of seriously good dealer price cuts making it several thousand dollars cheaper for...honestly, a very similar driving experience

yep...that one

ugh

idk I'm pretty thoroughly a Fiat-Chrysler group car person

they just feel more...solid

...V, are you secretly a miata fanboy?

I'd be ashamed to be one

[mild dome]

I'm a fan of the Toyota Tarago before they killed that line

[crisp granite]

Pentastar and Hemi

except the Pentastar is actually really great

talking about...uh
Fiat-Chrysler

mfw V6 as standard:

just shy of a delicious 300hp

kind of want to take it to the track and stretch it out tbh

:\

seems like what dodge does... along with the rest of the industry
there's distinct engine and interior/exterior packages
and each one of those trims is a combination of two or three options for each

that's a little too...um

dirt road for my tastes

I just need something I can use to run over small children and get around the city in without dying in a pothole

...that's at least highway speeds if I recall

idk, I use metric

130km is acceptable highway speeds

how that converts into a "mile", I don't understand

nor which mile you're using
roman, arabic?

that actually reminds me

I do need to actually get around to driving in some hellscape in the US at some point

LA and NYC were pretty normal to me (haha city slicker)
I need something barren, no paved roads

any suggestions?

it's...just

interstate

assuming (due to it being the USA), in horrible shape, but

nothing too interesting

I'll definitely give it a drive when I can, but...wait

Moab...that's in Utah, correct?

with a name like that, it's gotta be

probably an NFS set piece transplanted to the real world

next time I feel like taking the very scenic route to cali, I'll definitely make sure I experience those roads

the whole rectangles thing seems to have been a very anglo franco thing, haven’t really seen that in any euro society until that influence

[mild dome]

I wish more car manufacturers were willing to consider styles outside the flavour of the month. Loike mate, surely having a diverse set of styles would attract more customers then directly competing?

[frozen ingot]

2020s is where sleek understated design goes to die

everything has to be gaudy and shouty with creases and lines everywhere

and hyper aggressive front ends, so tired of these grocery getters trying to look like tryhard lambos in the front

[halcyon moss]

i just want a normal electric station to replace my volvo xc70 :/

[chrome estuary]

Holy fuck a minivan with reclining seats?

That's ridiculous

[frozen ingot]

I feel like we won't have any models to choose from other than SUVs in a decade

[chrome estuary]

The new Prius looks like a bullet train though and I love it

[frozen ingot]

even most cars that isn't SUVs already are infected with the crossover virus

[chrome estuary]

Hell look at Ford. Are they even making a sedan anymore?

I'm pretty sure they discontinued the Fusion and Focus.

[frozen ingot]

fiesta is a goner too

[chrome estuary]

Chevy discontinued the Cruze I think

[frozen ingot]

not that anyone bought fiesta sedans

[chrome estuary]

Dodge, the Dart.

[frozen ingot]

but even regular hatchbacks are dying for crossovers

[chrome estuary]

I want a real hatchback

They're tiny and awesome

[halcyon moss]

bigger on the outside, but way smaller on the inside

thats the new trend apparently

[frozen ingot]

no visibility either

[chrome estuary]

I can be that asshole taking up half a parking spot so you think it's open but in reality it's not.

[frozen ingot]

"iTs FoR cRaSh SaFeTy" not seeing anything and trusting your life to onboard sensors avoiding collisions for you is apparently the way forward

[halcyon moss]

might get a skoda enyaq instead..

[chrome estuary]

A what

[halcyon moss]

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=skoda+enyaq&iax=images&ia=images

[chrome estuary]

Reminds me of BMW with that grill

[frozen ingot]

yeah see a lot of skodas around these parts

[halcyon moss]

hopefully the refresh will be a bit less agressive

[old marlin]

the enyaq rear is so ugly

front looks like an ai generated bmw suv

back looks like a blown up opel astra

I like that actually lol

also like 75% of the entire vag lineup is sister vehicles

I've seen a chromed out last gen miata, looked worse

ngl

imo the skoda ones tend to look better than the vw ones

also skoda does not have a t-cross, t-roc or worse, the t-roc cabrio

because suv cabrios is something the world needed

german cars be like

for real, take a look at the t-roc cabrio

it is a treat

dunno if it counts as an suv if it doesn't have utility

can carry as much luggage as an old smart

[reef patrol]

Yes, hi. We need a midlife crisis model

[frozen ingot]

how do we make a convertible seem boring

[old marlin]

I mean it is vw

outside suvs and trucks they only offer up to 1.6 liter engines

obv they are boring

wtf is a taigo

[reef patrol]

I can imagine Hans, dad of four drive that thing up here on vacation while dragging a way too big camper on the back 😄

[frozen ingot]

there won't be another piech era vw/vag group that's for sure

[midnight sluice]

you can't use tachyon mode with 0.1 actuation point? It causes thje keys to press crazily without even having my hjand near it.

[reef patrol]

You already created a support thread - Please keep the troubleshooting in there. Someone will help asap.

[vestal hill]

Looking for anyone who has ever mapped digital audio devices created by Steelseries Sonar to knobs on a custom macro pad. Would love to hear about your experience.

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/iRe8zVCjCNw

TL;DW it's literally a rebranded Cooler Master

[reef patrol]

What else is new?

[cursive summit]

This is really bad pressure contacts

It's practically cooling nothing

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

I mean, it's not terrible

Scythe FUMA 2 is pretty incredible but it's like 40$

Holy moly

It could cool a R5 3600

It can't cool a 3800X

1900rpm

[rough osprey]

i mean if you buy such a cpu

you gonna have some money for a cooler

[cursive summit]

A 105W CPU?

Most are currently 105W or more

[rough osprey]

nah i mean for the price of the cpu

nothing super cheap

[gusty kiln]

There are so many super cheap Chinese coolers on Amazon now so idk why they even bothered

[reef patrol]

Brand coverage.

[cursive summit]

Amazon being amazon

[gusty kiln]

Id cooling has one for 20 usd

[cursive summit]

It looks so pathetic though

Plastic from 1990s

[gusty kiln]

ID-COOLING SE-214-XT ARGB CPU Cooler 4 Heatpipes CPU Air Cooler ARGB Light Sync with Motherboard(5V 3-PIN Connector) CPU Fan for Intel/AMD, LGA 1700 Compatible https://a.co/d/6OXFNNn

[hollow carbon]

yea but it has an amazon logo on it
as long it sell just on that fact they make money

[cursive summit]

People don't know any better

Amazon will push it to the top of the cooler list

[gusty kiln]

Could have at least rebranded the hyper 212

[cursive summit]

212 is hot

Not literally, I just like how it looks

[gusty kiln]

The black out one

I think bequiet makes some of the best looking pc hardware

[rough osprey]

noctua 🤓

[cursive summit]

Lol https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Samsung-Internal-Solid-State-MZ-V8V1T0BW/dp/B08TJ2649W

1TB Samsung 980 on sale half off

[gusty kiln]

Their PSUs especially

[cursive summit]

2TB Samsung for the same price 1TB used to be

130

[gusty kiln]

Is that the one that has issues?

[cursive summit]

980 is.. fine?

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Samsung-MZ-V7S2T0BW-Plus-Internal-3-500/dp/B07MLJD32L

[rough osprey]

I use one

[cursive summit]

970 EVO is really good though

[rough osprey]

ye

[cursive summit]

130 for 2TB

[gusty kiln]

Idk one of the newer one have issues

[cursive summit]

Solid deal

[rough osprey]

990 pro had some

[gusty kiln]

Ah

[cursive summit]

Wasn't the problem with 980 is that it used cheap af memory?

[gusty kiln]

You can get a crucial 4tb for 200 regularly

[cursive summit]

Like TLC or something?

[gusty kiln]

Tlc is alright

Qlc is the newest and kinda meh

[hallow perch]

Hello, i found something called Game tick rate optimisation on the wootility advanced settings, what do you guys use? 30, 60 or no tick rate?

[cursive summit]

Never heard of that in my life

[solemn remnant]

huh

[cursive summit]

Yeah no wonder

Are you sure it's in Wootility?

[hallow perch]

uh oki thanks

[cursive summit]

Well, Calder has answered this https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1055941712415051826

[hallow perch]

Well do you just leave it to 30?

[cursive summit]

According to him unless you use DKS, it doesn't matter it seems

[cursive summit]

I have never seen that option in my life

Must be a Lekker feature

[ashen spindle]

kept it at the default none and if it produces issues change it

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/126vrht/audeze_mm100_incoming/

[solemn remnant]

audeze nuts

[hallow perch]

What about your usual actuation point sens, what do you guys use?

[gusty kiln]

Oh wow 399

Actually obtainable

[hallow perch]

I set almost everything to 1.0 mm

And some to 2 and 4

[ashen spindle]

preference, whatever works best for you is best

[hallow perch]

I know, i'm just asking others

I'm not asking for "the best"

Just out of curiosity

[cursive summit]

I heard 0.1mm is the best

[cursive summit]

Planars?

Looks like a planar

[gusty kiln]

Just test until the weight of your fingers causes unintended actuation

It is

[cursive summit]

399 Audeze planar has potential

[hallow perch]

I'm not asking for advice

I'm just asking for what you use

Those are 2 very different things

Like, what do you personaly like?

I like 1mm

[solemn remnant]

1.0 for typing, 0.3 act and 0.1 rt for gaming

[gusty kiln]

Act?

[solemn remnant]

actuation

[gusty kiln]

Oh

[hallow perch]

Sheeesh, 0.1, how can you play?

[gusty kiln]

Thought it was a game

Lol

[solemn remnant]

kek

[cursive summit]

I have never heard of Audeze MM-500 before, https://www.audeze.com/en-eu/pages/mm-series

[solemn remnant]

0.1 with tachyon enabled is like 0.5 with tachyon off so probably that's how

[cursive summit]

The lower the faster

[gusty kiln]

Mm 500 actually has 1-2 khz

[cursive summit]

0.1 or bust

1.6k dolla holy

[gusty kiln]

It's really close to the lcd-5

[cursive summit]

So it's for mixing

[hallow perch]

What?

[gusty kiln]

Audeze usually have that droop in the mids

[cursive summit]

I dunno how mixing and music listening are different

[hallow perch]

That doesn't make sense

[solemn remnant]

yep there's a problem with tachyon mode that does that, it'

it's not accurate

[gusty kiln]

Not much tbh

Just certain headphone you should never use for mixing

[cursive summit]

It looks flat

Which is nice

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

No bass boost, more like a lack of it

[solemn remnant]

big bass or bust

[cursive summit]

I like the lack of bass, doesn't distract from mids

[gusty kiln]

Audeze figured out how to do upper mids

[hallow perch]

Well i just tested it, for me it stays 0.1mm, maybe you have a cable that's too long

[solemn remnant]

yes the config stays the same, but try typing or playing and feel the difference

[hallow perch]

I just did

That's what i meat when i sayd that i tryed it

Is exactly the same, i can barelly touch the key and it register

[gusty kiln]

I think you'll like hifiman like the edition XS, only if you can deal with the qc issues

[hallow perch]

same with tachyon on or off

[cursive summit]

Bexin is not an employee of the company

Ping @reef patrol

[cursive summit]

I'm fine with the K702s

[gusty kiln]

He is a volunteer though

[solemn remnant]

they are aware of the issue bro

[cursive summit]

I listened to the Sundaras and Anandas

They are eh

Compared to muh K702

If it doesn't have wide af AKG soundstage, it is boring

[solemn remnant]

#1075339050011074620 message you can read the thread if you like

[gusty kiln]

109 pros seems interesting

From meze

[cursive summit]

Expensivo

[gusty kiln]

Think the sound stage is pretty good from reviews

[cursive summit]

I'd rather at some point try to get Focal Clears

But again, why

[gusty kiln]

Everyone says the focal clear has a small Soundstage

[cursive summit]

K702s are flawless for me and I love them dearly, I don't need a collection, just functional hi end headphones

[gusty kiln]

So probably a pass for you

[cursive summit]

Yeah at this point I figured that I love soundstage

Hifimans had not enough of it

[gusty kiln]

Hd800s

[cursive summit]

IEMs fuckin suck cause they have none

[gusty kiln]

Time for speakers

[cursive summit]

I don't like speakers and have no possibility to get them

Thin walls

[gusty kiln]

Rip

[shadow minnow]

The statement above was provided to me by official employees to, for questions like this I often consult official employees for clarification

[cursive summit]

I was thinking of the AKG's high end offerings which people seem to shit on

K812 and K872

[gusty kiln]

872 is new?

[final flame]

Speakers imo are the best way to listen to audio, nothing really feels the same no matter how high end you go

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

Shouldn't be?

Speakers are not the best way to listen to audio

[gusty kiln]

Lemme look em up

[cursive summit]

I have a good set of speakers, and I don't use them

[gusty kiln]

Speakers are the closest to a live show

Like real music

[cursive summit]

You think I like live shows?

[final flame]

You haven't listened to a very nice powerful set of speakers

[cursive summit]

I just want headphones

[fickle ore]

Speakers are OP

[cursive summit]

Lads, preferences

You like speakers, I don't

I am picky about audio

[solemn remnant]

yeah and Mark confirmed it as well in the same thread, just picked your comment to show for some reason

[final flame]

I want to feel the bass in my chest, nothing else will give you that experience

[cursive summit]

Smol bass, insanely wide soundstage, good mids and high end, etc

That's my headphones

[shadow minnow]

Such disrespect vex smh

[gusty kiln]

And actual soundstage, not just headstage

[final flame]

Yes that too

[solemn remnant]

sounds horrid

[cursive summit]

Sounds the way I like it

[solemn remnant]

are you one of those people who would go to a vr disco with headphones and vr glasses on

[gusty kiln]

Speakers set ups can cost more than a house

[cursive summit]

People are biologically different, you know?

[gusty kiln]

[cursive summit]

And they have no privacy, piss everyone off and you don't get to use them anyways

[gusty kiln]

Gib me speaker bass until I shit myself

[cursive summit]

This is clearly a bass issue

You lot love bass, I don't like bass at all

Mine's tuned all the way -10

[solemn remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSUmopDW1GE

[final flame]

You don't have to make them loud, you can also set up a sound proof space designed just for your speakers

[shadow minnow]

Well headphones have one major difference from speakers that in theory should make surround sound easier

They isolate your ears

[cursive summit]

Fam this looks lit

[gusty kiln]

People have built entire rooms just for thier speaker set up

[shadow minnow]

And so can perfectly deliver audio as expected and as they would irl

Can’t really do that with speakers

[final flame]

Speakers invented surround idk what you're talking about

It is also inferior in every way

[shadow minnow]

See the thing is, in reality audio doesn’t work like surround speakers, there isn’t more volume from one speaker less from another. There is just slightly less volume slightly later

[cursive summit]

You lot are boring

[shadow minnow]

That’s wrong, with earphones you could in theory simulate perfect spatial audio if you invested a lot of development into very low latency and such. With speakers you’d need infinitely many speakers to match that

[cursive summit]

Anyways, I present to you AKG's K872 1600$ headphones

[shadow minnow]

Because unless it’s coming from exact direction it won’t be as good as headphone simulated in theory

[cursive summit]

This is a WTF graph

[shadow minnow]

Disadvantage of speakers is no isolation

Unless you have speaker in the exact direction you can’t simulate it properly

Is the thing

[final flame]

Good luck getting the soundstage with such a small device, no matter how much rnd and time you give a engineer you simply can't beat physics

[shadow minnow]

Tbf near perfect headphone surround sound also needs some specific calibration

[gusty kiln]

Idk I rather just a simple 2 channel set up

[final flame]

Yea, for whatever reason people like surround sound despite the limited amount of content available for it

[shadow minnow]

Well physics say that you have two ears, so if you isolate them perfectly, and simulate what microphones in ears would hear and play it out it is likely to be very close to real surround sound.
With speakers, it’s just volume ratios which is not how sound in reality works.

[gusty kiln]

But setting up speakers to be perfectly symmetrical is a pain

Are those common?

[final flame]

Yea and that's the problem

[gusty kiln]

What genre mostly?

[shadow minnow]

Quite a few new albums are getting spatial audio which is basically atmos too

Like even medium sized artists I listen to

[final flame]

The only music that I have seen with a 5.1 channel is vgm from very specific developers

For example the Hyrule warriors ost

[gusty kiln]

Haven't heard spatial audio from Apple yet though

[pale sigil]

Damn, the Plex server I've been using for many many years is going down.

[gusty kiln]

Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers for Home Theater Surround Sound, Stereo, and Passive Near Field Monitor, 2-Way (Black, Pair) https://a.co/d/8hLzRDO

Buy like 10 of these

https://youtu.be/OKl5KdhxjQ4

1 BA driver for $1100

[final flame]

Yea lol

Right angle tube moment

[gusty kiln]

"5 years of research"

[rough osprey]

worth

[livid niche]

Hi, anybody know how to map the Wooting 60HE to lighting for Razer chroma? I have the wrapper on the software and brush but it doesn't do anything.

[reef patrol]

You enable chroma in both apps, then the API Razer has controls what happens.

Typically a game or app decides for you. But third party products (meaning non-Razer) don't have per key lighting.

[livid niche]

Oh so I need to download the Razer bloatware

😦

[reef patrol]

Well... yes?

Or use a third party software like Artemis that binds all the different RGB standards together.

[livid niche]

Welp, I do appreciate the help. Thanks for that information Mansen

I'm just scared I'll damage firmware or something if I use it xd

[final flame]

Not really, majority have real instruments

Virtual instruments are real instruments by technicallity

They're simply just recorded instruments

Your live recordings are recorded instruments too :)

Then just don't listen to what you don't like

[gusty kiln]

Wow qobuz just straight up have better master versions than YouTube music of certain albums

Well most music streaming service just use the same library

Someone said deezer and Apple uses the same

[reef patrol]

Several ones in fact.

[gusty kiln]

But it seems like qobuz is actually curating their own

[misty saffron]

laughs in russian streaming services

[gusty kiln]

I've tried to obtain flac from those "services" but too much hassle

Also would want to build a nas first

[misty saffron]

you can just pirate from deezer if you’re not aware

in that case

[gusty kiln]

I know

You can also pirate from qobuz

But it's slow

I rather just go legit

[final flame]

You can just pirate from none of them and get everything

We do a little seekin souls

Maybe nyaa along the way

[gusty kiln]

Some people lock thier files

Yeah it's still easy to find what you need

[final flame]

I rarely find locked files

[reef patrol]

What - putting passwords on archives?

[gusty kiln]

About 13 a month for qobuz, but I can afford it

[final flame]

There's a entirely new client

[gusty kiln]

Also nyaa is only for weeb music

[final flame]

[gusty kiln]

What I don't understand spending money on is Roon/audirvana

[final flame]

Roon is only good if you have the entire thing setup with audio streamers otherwise it's a waste

[gusty kiln]

And streamers are stupidly expensive unless you make your own raspberry pi version

[ashen spindle]

hmm not sure if the amazon basics cooler being ok for 3800x even is a good thing so its not a scam like the cables can be or if its bad because it makes amazong a viable choice lol

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/12bepr0/lgs_and_samsungs_upcoming_oled_monitors_include/

HOLY MOTHER

[ashen spindle]

why link to a reddit post thats a link, just link to TFT directly

[gusty kiln]

1440p 480hz

Jeez

Monitors outpacing gpus, unless you play on all low for AAA games

[ashen spindle]

nah, you could hit 1k fps one some cases on tf2 maps (not consistently ofc)

[gusty kiln]

Tf2 is a fucking mess

Those dispensers cause so many fps drops

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah lmao

[gusty kiln]

Also csgo and valorant

[astral haven]

Oh dear adobe, this didn't start off well

[ashen spindle]

the dynamic resolution looks interesting

[gusty kiln]

Wait wtf really

Maybe scaling odd resolution won't be shit

1080p on 1440p

[ashen spindle]

oh I think you are thinking of something else

[gusty kiln]

Oh then nvm

[gusty kiln]

Ahhhhh

I actually would like that

Maybe 120 and 360

4k 240 is a waste atm

[ashen spindle]

so csgo at esports mode, anything else at 4k or similar

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[fickle ore]

27″ with 1440p and 480Hz refresh rate

OMG

1440p 480hz!!!

[ashen spindle]

I just hope they do think about using BFI at those refresh rates if they can make it brighter

[gusty kiln]

Pros will still stay on 24" 1080p

[ashen spindle]

480hz oled with BFI and good brightness, that would be so nice

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

Does ow2 still have the 400 fps cap?

[final flame]

Idk about that, I'd love that for osu

[ashen spindle]

for BFI I would consider 240hz minimum and even without it can be really nice on some indies/older AAA games

[gusty kiln]

As long at they don't have engine limits/quirks at high fps

[lofty pivot]

if they fix the text support so the oled panels have nice clear text + no burn in that 480hz 27" oled is going to be sweet

[cursive summit]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/cyberpunk-2077-ray-tracing-overdrive-update-launches-april-11/

Free frames inc

[ashen spindle]

idk if we get new pixel arrangements with these updated panels

I think we need QNED or similar to have the same pattern as before

ohh i didnt even notice one thing

thats a 4k ultrawide with 16hz on LGs roadmap

niceeee

45" though, that's going to be something massive lol

[final flame]

Idk what monitor I should get for my next setup, I could go with a large single qd oled

Or multiple 27 inch

[ashen spindle]

since I have a large qdoled with a second screen, I can tell you both is also an option

[final flame]

Lol

[gusty kiln]

I have a single 27" 1440p 240hz and two 1080 24"

[lofty pivot]

i don't know if i'd go single monitor oled right now if you're working on it

assuming you mean the latest lg/samsung panel where the text isn't that great

[gusty kiln]

Both 1080p on portrait mode

[ashen spindle]

also text is fine for me on qdoled, it's really dependent on what you do, how far way and if you use something like mactype etc.

[final flame]

Considering I prefer pixel density id use it at the visual acuity distance

So about 2 and a half feet away

[gusty kiln]

Get a 27" 4k

Giga pixel density

[ashen spindle]

idk what that is in real units, I'm sitting at like 70cm away from it

[final flame]

About .8 meters

[final flame]

The thing is the amount of screen retail I'd get with something larger would be really nice

[lofty pivot]

clearly you aren't learning from the pros properly

[final flame]

He can smell the subpixels

Then again there's also that really nice cooler master display 4k 165hz

The tempest GP27U

[gusty kiln]

32" is probably the sweet spot for 4k

[lofty pivot]

yeah i'd go 32" for 4k personally

[final flame]

For 32 inches the visual acuity distance is 2ft

[lofty pivot]

then you keep that same-ish pixel density of 1440p at 27" and 24" 1080p

[final flame]

That would be ideal but what are some good monitors that size?

I'd prefer high refresh rate too

[lofty pivot]

that's the tricky part I guess, i haven't kept as up to date with 32" monitors but i remember last years batch of 32" 4k had issues with latency not being great vs the 27" options

[ashen spindle]

think the 4k240hz samsung VAs are 32

with the good VA, not the smeary VA panels

neo g8

[final flame]

So ig the best option I have is one of the lg woled which will be releasing q3 2024

[gusty kiln]

I really want a 32:9 for work

But even the cheap 1080p ones start at 900

[final flame]

At that point just get multiple monitors

And get that thing that kinda merges the bezels

[gusty kiln]

Triple 27" 1440p is also a nice set up

On a monitor arm

[lofty pivot]

I like 2 horizontal and 1 vertical

Nice to have one vertical for long sheets and things like that

[final flame]

Right now I'm running 3 displays but I just rarely use more than one at a time

One vertical to the left of my main monitor and one 50" Tv as kind of a home theater display

[gusty kiln]

I have discord and telegram permanently up on one monitor

And music permanently up on the other

Portrait great for long playlist

[final flame]

I also run my ipad pro 12" as a display underneath my main monitor for color work

So technically 4 display setup

Although it's jank

[gusty kiln]

Get the apple studio display to connect with your ipad

[final flame]

Hell naw

[gusty kiln]

I mean it is a great monitor regardless

[final flame]

It is good but not worth the money, and it's also not the most compatible with windows

Also no high refresh rate

[ashen spindle]

lololol asus rog ally only got shown to two people and other youtubers make videos speculating about it and it's clear they are just salty lmfao

did think it was the usual april fools turned marketing survey but seems like they did actually work on it for longer

that would be something I'd consider over a steamdeck due to better performance and better screen

[final flame]

Salty about being a liability

The people who did get shown it literally had rog staff in the room as they were recording

[ashen spindle]

Yeah and arguments like most games won’t hit 120hz on it at 1080p

Like

Yeah no shit

That’s not making it a bad thing to have though lol

[final flame]

Like the steam deck would be able to hit those performance numbers

The ally is just a general improvement all around

In general I'd say the thing that makes the most difference is the cooling solution

[ashen spindle]

zen4 as cpu is just so great to boost low power gains

cooling just makes it even better

[final flame]

My friend who owns a steam deck had asked me once whether it's possible to fix the whiny fan in his deck and I'm like, not really possible to do that on the deck normally

[gritty scaffold]

uwu has been announced

https://tenor.com/view/excited-so-gif-23170060

[ashen spindle]

goign to make it weird though, will steam deck be used like series S for base spec for some game configurations

or do they just ignore the other handhelds or will steamdeck get second class treatment if valve dont upgrade it

[cursive summit]

@final flame

I am yet to understand what this is for

Another new Moondrop product

At this point Moondrop has something new every week, it's insane

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/life-kink-gif-21426465

[final flame]

Well that's the chifi market for you

From what it looks like it's a Bluetooth adapter for iems

[cursive summit]

I don't see why you'd ever need something like that

[astral haven]

Wireless adapter for iems more of the LG tone or Samsung level style

[cursive summit]

But.. why

Like.. why?

You don't need this unless your phone does not have a 3.5mm jack and even then, stupid dongles

[astral haven]

🤷 significantly better battery life and mic, as well as being able to fit far more powerful equipment

[astral haven]

Have you tried for example biking with wired iems?

[cursive summit]

I have wore nothing but Sony wired headphones for years straight every day

[astral haven]

While doing activities?

[cursive summit]

These little shits

Runs, bikes, uni, school, commute, etc

For years

Daily

These gave out sadly a few years back

I had virtually no problems with these being wired

That's why I don't get the need for these "bluetooth adapters"

[final flame]

The idea is you retain sound quality white getting the convenience of bluetooth

[cursive summit]

I get it but at the same time, not really

[astral haven]

🤷 cables get tangled and you are distance limited
My phone magnets onto my bike, with normal length headphone cables it wouldn't reach

[cursive summit]

I never found the wire bad or that it gets in the way

But boy those 30$ Sonys lasted me many years and honestly, are a bit underrated

Sound quality now that I look back was very meh

[frozen ingot]

at home I use wired headphones on my computer

[astral haven]

For example when watching yt vids it's convenient to be able to walk away from the phone to do chores

[frozen ingot]

on the go I have a pair of linkbuds s, or cheapo sony over-ear bluetooth

[astral haven]

I have a 10 foot extension cable for my headphones/iems at my desk, but that's just not convenient everywhere

[final flame]

I currently use a fiio m6 as a Bluetooth receiver on the go

[astral haven]

I used a Samsung level u pro for a while and it was pretty nice

[cursive summit]

You take the phone with you and listen on speakers?

That's an easy solution

[astral haven]

Ye, I've got a fiio btr3k that i use as a remote aux jack sometimes, tho now i mostly use wfxm4, cra+az09, sal zero+utws3

[astral haven]

Nightmarishly worse sound quality and the sound changes while walking around

[final flame]

Uses ldac too

[astral haven]

Ye

Das beeeg tho

[final flame]

I just stick it in my backpack side pocket

The cupholder

[astral haven]

Btr3k fits inside my wallet

Tho i mostly use it to plug into aux jacks of cars

[frozen ingot]

I rather like my linkbuds so far

not sure I'd spend that money on a pair of earbuds myself, but was a nice gift

doing a 2 hr drive on studded tires this friday, that noise cancellation will be much appreciated

[gusty kiln]

The donut ones or the normal ones?

[frozen ingot]

the later s version

[gusty kiln]

Ah

[final flame]

So far I'm enjoying my er2, only issue I have with etymotics is their fix can be quite inconsistent

My starfields rn their vents are kinda blocked up so you're getting a lot of that crinkly driver sound when inserting them

So I've stopped using them for now

Apparently blue tack is good for cleaning the vents but I don't have any on me

[frozen ingot]

my main gripe is sony limiting their app/personalization in weird ways like not letting you set up the touch controls

like why should I have to choose between ambient/nc toggle and leaving two tap gestures unused or just volume/playback gestures and nothing else

[astral haven]

Yup
Same issue on xm4

[frozen ingot]

not a dealbreaker to me but still annoying and makes little sense

[reef patrol]

I take back what I said about Logitech quality. My scroll wheel literally goes the wrong way half the time now. After ... 4 months of use 😄

[livid niche]

What Logi mouse you got?

[reef patrol]

The uhh... Superlight Pro X something?

The one that comes in hot pink.

[livid niche]

Now that's hot but that probably isn't right. Just complain to the Logi support team and they might do something about. Build quality issues like that aren't that common I don't think

I mean, on a expensive mouse like that I would complain lol

[reef patrol]

Oh I did. Took 24 hours for them to go "yet - defect. Ask retailer to replace" 😄

[fickle ore]

If I said I told you so I would be very toxic so I'm just gonna keep quiet.

wait

woops

[reef patrol]

Now I just gotta wait for the seller to respond back to whether or not I can put down a deposit to get a replacement while the original is shipped back.

[livid niche]

Where did you buy from in the first place?

sounds like eBay

[reef patrol]

Bol in Clogland.

[livid niche]

Gosh, I have never heard of Bol before... I just buy from Amazon or eBay because the very least you know you have your ass covered if you have an issue such as that. But I would assume the company will give you a replacement

i managed to frick up my stock glides on the 2nd day and now i've ordered corepads

[thick elk]

Sounds like bol.com which is a dutch amazon clone basically, and a reason it took quite some time for amazon to come here

[reef patrol]

I mean... we well some of our accessories on Bol.

[livid niche]

I need to search this Bol...

[livid niche]

So question. Do you use stock skates or aftermarket?

:)

[reef patrol]

On the underside? Stock. I have a deskmat.

[thick elk]

Either way, manufacturers of these things dumping all responsibility on the retailers kind of sucks, even af legally speaking you should always be able to turn to your retailer.

[reef patrol]

EU is clear. Always retailer first 😄

And I wouldn't want it any other way.

[thick elk]

Well a lot of manufacturers say, you can also directly deal with us if you prefer

which often is the faster option, especially online

[reef patrol]

Sure - But that's outside of EU warranty. They try to catch you under THEIR, much worse warranty.

So proceed with caution.

[thick elk]

Well dutch warranty is not that great, first 6 months they have to proof you broke it after that until a reasonable life expectancy you have to proof it's a defect.

[reef patrol]

That's uh... that's EU warranty. 😄

6month, 18 month. Two years.

[thick elk]

Actually the implementation depends on the countryt

[reef patrol]

Those are the EU minimums.

If a country does more they're welcome. But they literally cannot offer worse.

[thick elk]

In the netherlands there is no clearly defined term beyond the 6 months, so if you buy some insanely cheap pos it would stand to reason that after 6 months it's done whereas an expensive laptop may be expected to last at least 3.
It just isn't clearly defined so in practice after 6 months it's either manufacturer warranty, or up to the mercy of the retailer.

[reef patrol]

It's always a case by case thing. Which is why we have consumer rights orgs who decapitate retailers trying to bend the rules too hard. 😄

[thick elk]

In practice most manufacturers offer 2 years because some eu countries do demand that, so that's mostly the standard.

[reef patrol]

Rule of thumb is : Within first six months seller has to justify within reason that the defect was not present at time of sale, and that the buyer specifically had to have damaged it outside of normal use.

Reverse rule for the remaining 18 months.

[thick elk]

Still having the option to go to the manufacturer isn't bad, especially if you order from some amazon seller or similar.
Warranty from the seller only works if the seller still exists.

[reef patrol]

In theory? No. It fucks with your law given rights though.

[fossil orchid]

just use wooting keyboard

controller overrated

[reef patrol]

It kind of needs a source of electricity, V.

[young lily]

@reef patrol could you go to #archived_wooting_60he channel and help me out with this

Pls

[reef patrol]

Nope. I have absolutely no clue about double movement.

[young lily]

Oh😂

Okay

[pale sigil]

i want a steam deck like controller

[ashen spindle]

but why

[chrome estuary]

"Here's a battery, better for the earth than dozens and dozens of regular AAs"

[pale sigil]

Sigh, Plex sync does not seem to work the way i want.

I wish watch data etc was global

[mild dome]

Question is: Did they use Hall Effect joysticks?
Joysticks are always the first things to go on these controllers, HE ones would help prolong the life and thus be better for the Earth. On that note, how hard is it to replace joysticks in these controllers?

[mild dome]

When do they make an Elite Controller 3 with HE joysticks? My Elite Controller 1 is starting to really show its age.

[empty wren]

Inb4 $300

[empty wren]

Yes

[empty wren]

Then you not also feel so remorseful when it breaks down

[severe phoenix]

Just get an 8bitdo Ultimate bluetooth version with hall effect

They're fucking excellent

[severe phoenix]

Lol

8bitdo is a great company

Their Pro 1/2 controllers are fantastic

They have better Dpads than Xbox or Sonys at least

Lol didd you really say the duke had good ergonomics?

You gotta be a troll

It's clicky, not really ideal

For a D-pad

It' neat and different, the controller is also 100$++

The Core Controller is the elite without the full accessories

Xbox naming as usual

Regardless, regular Xbox Dpad is worse than DS4/DualSense

[empty wren]

Best dpad

It makes me wish the abxy buttons were better

Elite 1 I think has that dpad

[empty wren]

Dual sense has 4 separate mushy buttons

Unfortunate

Well now they are all about triggers and vibration

But I will say that extra set of vibration motors on the Xbox controllers in the triggers feel good too even if they are not fancy

Yeah it feels like the arrows keys of an controller

Of course on a controller it has a smaller area, needs to be compact and also function well

Cuz of Sony?

Oh

I think a few games do the samish by Bethesda publiahing

Prey I think has a similar feature

Atomic heart I would have imagined would have something like that

But I think it has two versions

I do not recall if one is tied to the dpad really

Cuz I think the joystick and a bumper is use for a wheel

And the dpad left and right is for weapon selection and you only really get three max

I mean honestly it is fine if you have a ton of stuff

But the y button works fine too

Some game cannot recall has primaries as tap

And secondary at holf

Oh wait a minute I remember

Ghost recons wildlanda

Yeah but campaign in halo is weird

The equipment is the dpad😵‍💫

Not only that the weapons are cool tooo

I need to reinstall it sometime maybe it will run fine on arc

I wish I could say the same for infinite

But like it feels like a mostly a baron area

You can probably count that up from reach to 5

Well try at least 4 some time

It will not be so uh strange feeling I guess

Like you cannot really die in 5

Your armour just locks up

Reach is great yes

Just thinking about it now I wish it had an expansion

Like something about the original trilogy

Made each one feel long and fufulling

Not that reach was not

But maybe it was just the abilities

Maybe reach also felt more linear

Yeah that was it I think

Let's move to #🎮│game

[mild dome]

Halo has a very vertical feeling in design.
Helped in part by crosshair being below the screen's centre sp yoi would always be looking slightly up which was especially good on those old tiny low res displays. Just fantastic level design manipulated such that you always got a good look at it

H4 changed art styles, and was then held back strongly by the 360s hardware. Since a lot of the ol artists went to Destiny it seemed to lose a bit of charm.

Xone had some great environmental designs, but the campaign was god awful to the point you just didn't care.

Halo Infinite had only one biome. Which really impacted how the campaign felt I think since each place visited looked about the same. I think the Xbone also held back its ambitions preventing the devs from making something truly stunning. E.g. phantoms now just poof from existence rather then leaving a corpse. Something Halo 3 did now lost depite 2 generations of hardware changes

[old marlin]

yea but what about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpcjkDDLoXM

[severe phoenix]

What? Halo specifically has really bad level design

The halo devs even admit to this

And if you play through Halo 1 especailly you see it quite often

They claim they were rushed and had to start copy and pasting basic box rooms

The Library is also one of the worst levels in gaming, being the same room for an hour over and over. They literally apologize for it lol

[old marlin]

https://youtu.be/EKxKCIcbVwY?t=622

more civvie references?

[mild dome]

The Library was a bad yeah, but most the rest of the game was great. Just beautiful graphics for the time. The Library was a poop stain though

[severe phoenix]

The graphics were good for Xbox for sure

Yeah

[old marlin]

https://mb.srb2.org/threads/srb2kart.25868/

best misuse of an engine

a kart racer on a modified doom engine

wait was myth real time 3d?

man I just want to find the engien for the original myth

but I only get an fnf mod or black myth wukong

ne journey to the west avail

seems uhh

odd

wait

now I remember why I thought it wasn't real time 3d

confused it with mist

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bern-berndasbrot-dasbrot-mist-germantoast-gif-11944576

[reef patrol]

To be fair they did make a 3D realtime version of Myth.

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGknUiihpkI on a similar note

this mod was pretty fun in multiplayer

controls were a bit jank, you basically steered by looking in the direction you wanted to go

[old marlin]

borderlands car controls

yum

[frozen ingot]

randy has experience with quake/hl modding, he probably got the idea from this

[old marlin]

did he do anything specific with quake?

[frozen ingot]

don't think he released anything, but I recall something about him starting out doing levels/mods on various fps of the era

[old marlin]

at the time mainly build engine

afaik

and then the half life expansions

[frozen ingot]

woulda been kinda hard to ignore quake at the time even if you just played it

[mild dome]

Hey even on PC Halo's graphics were great
However Gearbox fucked up the port and broke bump mapping making all the surfaces look flat

[old marlin]

prob

[frozen ingot]

yeah he was with 3D realms for some time

[old marlin]

yea he was with 3d realms pre opposing force

funnily enough none of the good maps randy worked on were finished by him

[frozen ingot]

yeah he made a lot of shadow warrior maps...halfway

[frank wind]

has wooting done tests on how long lekker magnetic switches last?

For instance

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/216527/do-magnets-ever-lose-their-magnetism-and-if-so-how-long-does-it-take

The answer depends on the magnet. A temporary magnet can lose its magnetization in less than 1 hour. Neodymium magnets lose less than 1% of their strength over 10 years. Permanent magnets such as sintered Nd-Fe-B magnets remain magnetized indefinitely.

What kind of magnets do the lekker switches use?

https://wooting.io/lekker

lifespan 100,000,000 clicks

Has like a test been done for this figure or how was it determined?

What is lifetime defined as in the context of a magnetic switch? The magnet losing its magnetic properties?

[frozen ingot]

it got to that point and kept going so they just went with it

wouldn't worry about magnets going bad for like 50 years at the very least

[frank wind]

yeah but like

[frank wind]

how do i interpret this, i dont understand what lifetime means in the context of a magnetic switch

since there is no mechanical wear unlike other switches

outside of like the spring

[frozen ingot]

that rating is based on the actual switch parts/spring wear

not the magnet

[old marlin]

realistically the spring won't break

[frank wind]

yeah but like

how did they get the 100m figure

[old marlin]

a testing machine

they won't rate it higher cause it would take ages to get a number to certifiably get significantly over that

[frozen ingot]

from what I heard they tested until 100m and called it a day

[old marlin]

basically

[frozen ingot]

no real use testing further really

[frank wind]

fair enough

[reef patrol]

I don't think the test actually goes that far. I would assume it does a fraction of that and extrapolates based on the wear over a certain amount of clicks or period on time on an average.

[severe phoenix]

Yes they tested 10 presses, then extrapolated it to 100M.

[reef patrol]

Poor attempts at trolling aside, doing a hundred million clicks would take forever. And I doubt even Gateron does that in practice when doing any kind of new design or adjustment, since it would require months upon months of testing each time.

[severe phoenix]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EENqXZxWkAAks_R.jpg

[pale sigil]

Clicker

I'm out ATM but it's like this but on an industrial scale

It rapidly presses and tests

[frank wind]

Got it, thank toy

You*

Was just mildly confused at how the figure was obtained

[pale sigil]

But again, factory wise they have bigger better machines

[thick elk]

Of course real life mileage may vary, depending on a lot of factors.

[solemn remnant]

I bet that makes damn good coffee

[old marlin]

for a second I thought it was some drink dispenser

[hollow carbon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/124rsv2/another_device_for_testing_keyboard/
or go down the DIY route

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1643388022799630336

Grubb (@JeffGrubb)

I am traveling to Super Nintendo World, but I see the reports about a potential Vita 2, and I would definitely scope down those expectations. I've only ever heard about a cloud-streaming handheld.

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