🌟│wooting80he

[low swan]

If you didn’t order a white one in the founders and choose to receive it, no one knows exactly when the paint issues will be resolved.

[turbid vapor]

same thing happened to me :/ was planning creating a support ticket

[scenic igloo]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[topaz flare]

well, also got the wrist rest... will see what an abomination my package is gonna be... hopefully they put my order in a box considering i have a module, case, wrist rest, caps, and 2 switch packs.

[turbid vapor]

i think it would be better to dispute on the website tbh

[scenic igloo]

yes as per the msg I linked

[steady notch]

thank you for linking that post. was looking for something incase my switches are damaged

[short niche]

They weren't trying to save on shipping costs. According to the Wooting guys they were SUPPOSED to be using boxes to ship in.

[solar ember]

same bro, at least i got usps which seems to be doing a better job than ups

[steady notch]

yeah i read the post after making my post

wasnt trying to come off as them skimping or anything

[short niche]

The USPS orders seem to be fine. So far I think it's just UPS that's been fucking them up.

[topaz flare]

usps expedited for me as well. Should get it by 5th oct according to the tracking. you?

[low swan]

This bad boy gonna put a substantial dent in my desk when my rappy ain’t snappy enough

[scenic igloo]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[topaz flare]

imperial units 🤮

[short niche]

Crazy how heavy they are.

[scenic igloo]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[steep badger]

okay thanks

[low swan]

Rage bait 😘

[low swan]

Forreal. Gives it a nice premium feel

[short niche]

Any defects on your white case?

[low swan]

Not that I could see, no.

[topaz flare]

any defects/dirt on the led bar?

also do all the leds work?

[low swan]

Haven’t plugged it in yet. Unboxed and inspected paint. Will check the rest tomorrow when I sit down to game.

[short niche]

You have more self control than me. As soon as I count my switches that will inevitably be strewn around the bag I'm plugging it in straight away to test it lol.

[dark cargo]

i wish i ordered this before the shutdown idrc about small chips 😭

[short niche]

Before what shutdown?

[low swan]

Hunger was calling my name. Also, my switches were not thrown around. Box the came in was ripped and screw cap was a little loose but no thrown around

[short niche]

Oh nice, that's good.

[low swan]

They removed the white zinc alloy from purchase because of potential paint chips on arrival and scratching until they can fix the paint method

[low swan]

10/10 Would recommend when it comes back

[valid comet]

did they actually remove it for now?

[low swan]

Yes

[topaz flare]

no raw either?

[low swan]

Idk anything about raw

[echo shell]

is there a guide on how to swap switches on 80he

[valid comet]

but i also feel like we are getting kind of a "non answer" from wooting rn when it comes to isssues with the cases for the 80HE? it kinda goes against the transparency thing but maybe they are taking their time on coming witha response

[topaz flare]

they should have known about the scratching after they recieved their first samples right?

[valid comet]

yeah they shouldve

[topaz flare]

cause if i am not mistaken, all white units are affected by that right?

[valid comet]

again i really dopnt want to make a huge deal of all this but I simply want to understand what happpened

[topaz flare]

i don't believe it is a manufacturing issue. it is a process issue

[dark cargo]

i wish wooting went with the 75% so i could use some other cases

[topaz flare]

that is what i inferred from the live stream.

[valid comet]

75% is non standard

[ember creek]

Someone is gonna make 3rd party 80he cases eventually surely

[topaz flare]

still wouldnt be able to because of the led bar

[valid comet]

there are tens of cases that fit certain PCBAAs

[dark cargo]

no i dont think so the 77.5% lay out is way too specific

[dark cargo]

yeah i was just thinking about that

[ember creek]

I'd like a standard TKL but as long as I've got function row and arrow keys I'm fine, I never did end up modding my 60he at all

[steel perch]

im sure other companies will make keeb cases for the wooting since its such a popular keeb

[dark cargo]

its not popular enough

like logitech and razer

[jade widget]

Well someone's making one already 👀

[valid comet]

[short niche]

Here's a couple videos you might find helpful. One is how to take out the switches / lube on the 60HE, and one is how to assemble the 80HE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNa5wuqiFVY

[indigo bobcat]

Any recommendations for keycaps that would look good with the ghost case

[short niche]

The XVX Keycaps look pretty sweet. https://www.xvxchannel.com/collections/keycaps/products/xvx-topographic-new-version-pattern-shine-through-oem-profile-imd-tech-keycap-set Never tried them myself though.

[indigo bobcat]

I’ll have a look thanks

[wind hollow]

is the wootility 5.0 only on web?

[meager sigil]

Yes

[hard vale]

anyone have a list of games thats socd/snap tap is banned? ik csgo banned it but thats i

[warm anvil]

Think it’s just CS

And osu competitively

[full escarp]

When will the 80he white color be updated in the store?

[hard vale]

ty

[echo radish]

Would SA or oem spacebar be better

[fleet ridge]

Gotta love ups delivery

[warm anvil]

Please usps don’t do this to me 🙏

[night jewel]

and i thought amazon delivery in germany was bad nowadays

[delicate relic]

dont feel bad happened to like 5 of us today atleast

[warm rover]

is it just me or does the Light Indicator need more effects in the wootility app?

[fleet ridge]

no its really bad here I used to work at this ups distribution center and the things I've seen them do is crazy also doesn't help its in a bag and not a box

[hazy oyster]

usps didn't do me dirty, only some small dents on the switch box

[short niche]

From what I've seen USPS has been solid.

[fleet ridge]

jjust happy the board was in a hard case

uspa is so much better

[old egret]

God damn what did they do 😭

[snow canyon]

Another one to the list 🥲

[fleet ridge]

It either got stepped on or caught in one of the belts they use to move items through the warehouse

[spring oar]

😭

[snow canyon]

Updated

[oak jungle]

6th one

ups garbage lol

[old egret]

I was about to say that I don't think I've ever had anything delivered that poorly but then I remember that USPS folded a mouse pad that isn't supposed to be folded. Shoved into my mail box

[snow canyon]

Actually 9 cases now

[old egret]

Twice in a row 😆

[snow canyon]

Nvm 10

[short niche]

I'll make sure to tag you tomorrow when I get mine so you can add it to the list lol.

[oak jungle]

3 brain cells worker

[snow canyon]

Please do lol

[lilac plaza]

You mean everyones is different? It's like very pink on mine, not pink tint

[torpid hawk]

Just received my 80he in the mail today and this is the first thing I have typed on it. feels great and sounds great too!

zinc version

[oak jungle]

is it bouncy?

[short niche]

Yeah LEDs can lean more pink or more blue when set to "white". Just depends on the diodes in them.

[torpid hawk]

was not ready for how heavy this big boi is hahahaha love it

[loud pier]

does it thock

[oak jungle]

and soft and ssmooth

to touch

[loud pier]

mine's monday. f this world

[short niche]

Mine is tomorrow by 7pm, and with my luck it will be 7pm before they drop it off lol.

[torpid hawk]

this is my first "nice" keyboard so idk if i can evaluate it properly other than im enjoying the experience

[oak jungle]

if they glue the all Continents we wouldn't suffer like this

[torpid hawk]

definitely some thockage going on

[loud pier]

classy using Psy music logo

[hazy oyster]

switching from my corsair k70 rapidfire feels so different

[oak jungle]

is it bouncy while typing ?

[short niche]

It shouldn't be all that bouncy while typing on because of how many mounting points they have for the gaskets. Also, you don't want a super bouncy board with hall effect.

[short niche]

lol what?

[oak jungle]

yeah I know that it's not hella bouncy coz it's he keyboard

but is bouncy little ?

you could notice it

or stiff

[loud pier]

That profile picture is from Psy Daddy

logo pic

[short niche]

From the reviews I've seen, because I don't have mine yet, it's more stiff than bouncy.

[oak jungle]

when you get your board tomorrow tell us how it feels

[short niche]

Oh, I had no idea. I found it years ago online and have been using it ever since lol.

[torpid hawk]

sorry idk what bouncy means in the context of keyboards but if i had to guess id say no, mine is the zinc so thats probably the more rigid option

[oak jungle]

oh

[torpid hawk]

pressing down hard im not getting flex

if that helps clear it up

[oak jungle]

yeah it does ty

[lilac plaza]

Yea back in the day that was considered a good thing and plate mounted stabs were all the rage lol

I do like that typing on this boad is so quiet, but I think I will bottom out more if I use the free switches. I really don't think I have a use for them unless im going to build another keyboard lol

[warm rover]

AirMag Profile 😄

[wooden crescent]

Ngl I am a noob at modding, but I just opened up the 80he, and there seems to be nowhere to apply a burger mount, right? Doesn't seem that the PCB is screwed into any standoffs, it's held there by the actual case itself

[delicate dove]

How is the scratching on the paint of the white zinc alloys?

[fleet ridge]

yea its gasket mounted

[warm rover]

mine came with no scratches

[short niche]

Correct, it's been held up by the silicone gaskets around the edge of the plate.

[wooden crescent]

Dope thank you

[wooden crescent]

Mine has been pretty resilient. I tested the backside a bit with some small wire and it didn't leave any spots. Purely anecdotal though

[fleet ridge]

no scratches yet but the white definitely does not hide imperfections well

Im putting quite a bit of pressure but still trying to keep it nice obviously and its a metal switch puller

It’ll definitely be fine for the slightest dings

[short niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6vTEtwZ50 Pretty in depth video with sound tests and stem wobble for various switches using the 80HE.

[snow canyon]

Thanks for doing that

[tropic void]

i just had the W key go perm press during a match of the finals. Maybe a fw bug? I had to unplug the kb to get it to reset

[lilac plaza]

War Patina over time

[sleek finch]

anyone got good cable recommendations or should I just go with a wooting coiled cable?

[lilac plaza]

Is there no way to change the profile color?

[lilac plaza]

for the light bar I mean

[lime spear]

i just got mine and plugged it in but wootlity doesnt seem to be working

[pale steeple]

what is difference beetween these 2?

[lilac plaza]

use version 5 on web only

[lime spear]

ahhh didnt realize desktop app isnt v5 thanks

[lilac plaza]

I would like to change the color of the profile indicator

[pale steeple]

nobody tells me ;(

[fleet ridge]

oNE has kana

[pale steeple]

i realised now, im fking blind

idk what to get now normal plastic or ghost :<

[fleet ridge]

lmao

[pale steeple]

I wanted white zinc but ofc i can't get what i want in life

[fleet ridge]

ghost for sure

[pale steeple]

one has to do till it's back :(, aah ghost ofc, I am a ghost to people so it makes sense

[fleet ridge]

then order a zinc white case later

[pale steeple]

thanks bro i was thinking the same

[fleet ridge]

it looks so good with rgb

[pale steeple]

theere goes my medication money... rip my schizio

[fleet ridge]

ohhhhh nooooo

[coarse crest]

sigh I guess I’m lubing my maxes 😭

[stoic jackal]

Got my zinc today and there is an issue

[pale steeple]

what issue

[stoic jackal]

I think I'm going to need another for work. The typing experience is way better than my moonlander with linear keys

[short niche]

What's your experience with the stems / keycaps and the Jade Max? Are they sticking as badly as he showed in the video? I'm debating between keeping the L45's or going with the Max.

[short niche]

Seems like a good issue to have.

[coarse crest]

They just entered my state recently, still don’t have them yet. Still waiting on board so I’m gonna only be able to test 1 switch at a time with my geon switch opener 🥲

From Mike’s sound test, it’s not even close for stock vs lube on zinc

[pale steeple]

are switching south facing for cherry?

[coarse crest]

I’m hoping it’s not a pain after reading his comment

[spring oar]

15 switches every week, by then 80he should arrive

[short niche]

No

[pale steeple]

fak those ergonomiic keyboards, :<

[coarse crest]

Not a bad idea

[pale steeple]

so is getting cherry not good?

[short niche]

I was glad to see him using kil-mat in his board. I feel like you don't see it very often.

[coarse crest]

But I’d have to reset up shop every week 🥲

[short niche]

Cherry is fine, just leave the switches North facing.

[pale steeple]

hmmmmmmmm :< so i won't feel it or affect my gaming?

not that i would've felt anyway

[coarse crest]

Was that what he put into his spacebar

[short niche]

No, that was the stuff he was adding to the bottom of his keyboard in the beginning.

It's a car dampening material for sound and vibrations.

[upbeat vigil]

Did anyone else get Jitsu as their delivery service and had a good experience? All I'm seeing from the chat history are bad and semi-bad things lol

[short niche]

No it won't affect anything. You can just Cherry keycaps with no issues. I use them on my 60HE, and will have them on my 80HE.

[lilac plaza]

Ok 195,255,175 is a better white

[stoic jackal]

They were mine and the day of delivery estimate was way off but overall it still came. It said 55min away for 3 hours then cleared to filler

[lilac plaza]

I am using two keyboards too, but this one types fine?

Ok I found a work around for trying to change the profile indicator

[upbeat vigil]

I see, thank you for the information. That eases my worry somewhat since the most recent message was someone getting their keyboard stolen 💀

[lilac plaza]

you can just use a solid light effect, but the only problem is that the global settings no longer work so you just have to add all the settings to each profile

because when you add a solid indicator for the light bar it overrides the global.

but this works, I only have 2 profiles anyways

[stoic jackal]

They didn't ring the doorbell or anything but I had the camera up all day on an extra monitor but we also don't have a ton of package theft here

[upbeat vigil]

Gotcha. Ty once again

[lilac plaza]

Yea mine was delivered the one day of the week no one was home.....

[pale steeple]

wait in the buying page don't we have to select switches??

[lilac plaza]

And only because work switched my work from home day last minute.

[short niche]

Are you getting the module, or the pre-built?

[pale steeple]

pre-built

[lilac plaza]

I think you just get standard switches unless you just buy the parts individually

[short niche]

Pre-built comes stock with L60 v2's.

[pale steeple]

oh nuu :( which one is better?

[short niche]

Better in which way?

[pale steeple]

hmm as in typing i d say

[wind mica]

it's preference

[lilac plaza]

Anyone tried the 45s yet?>

[jade widget]

preference it's just the weight of the spring that changes 45 grams vs 60 grams

[short niche]

Strictly for typing I would think a slightly heavier spring is better.

[lilac plaza]

seems like allot of work to change over to those.

[short niche]

I'll be hand lubing and installing the L45's tomorrow.

[pale steeple]

yeah I don't want to do too many mistakes, but I also game tho.

[wind mica]

dont know why you would buy a hall effect keyboard for typing

[lilac plaza]

yea it's not like they are super heavy to begin with

[lilac plaza]

So you don't type on your keyboard?

[short niche]

L60's are fine for typing and gaming. I would honestly stick with those to start before spending money on something additional.

[pale steeple]

I mean i game but i will also work on it hahhahaa

[wind mica]

i do, but if you are only typing then a mechanical is better

[lilac plaza]

Yea same, 95% work 5% game lol

I actually like typing on thesea.

They are quiet and smooth

reminds me of topre

[pale steeple]

ehh i also like how wooting looks tho, and they sound good out of the box compared to other ones, cba doing all the mods :((

and I think it's pretty thin isn't it? compared to something like keychron, dead tall

[proven hearth]

huh

[short niche]

You talking about the keycaps?

[high marsh]

Mine will be here tomorrow FINALLY

[proven hearth]

wooting ships with OEM height/style keycaps

[pale steeple]

oh i meant the case

or the body idk

[proven hearth]

oh

[short niche]

Yeah the case has a lower typing angle, so it looks flatter compared to some other cases.

[proven hearth]

it has interchangeable feet

[pale steeple]

like i remember getting keychron q1 it was so tall, idk hard to play without wrist rest

[proven hearth]

60he doesnt

[steep badger]

Will any cherry mx keycaps on the 80HE? Looking at getting these

[proven hearth]

yes

just make sure the bottom row spacebar is 6.25U

which it looks like it is

[steep badger]

ah okay

[proven hearth]

i think you can find the measurements on wootings website

and compare it with the keychron

[pale steeple]

hmm those keycap colour would go nice with the ghost case

or am i tripping?

[lilac plaza]

Oh man those look amazing

[steep badger]

oh yeah they would. I got the black plastic one

[lilac plaza]

where do I get those

[steep badger]

wondering if i should order now or wait till i get my keyboard

[steep badger]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BPL9YQHV/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A1R2VY6J1K4QKP&psc=1

[pale steeple]

damn I'm buying those haahthanks man

[steep badger]

I'll wait a bit longer to order.

[pale steeple]

if I put my order like this , not prebuilt, will it come with cable will i need to buy anything seperate? I think i will go with linear45

[lilac plaza]

Now i'm wishing I had not already bought the wooting white keycaps for my black board

[pale steeple]

ye don't be impulsive like me ;<

[proven hearth]

it comes with the cable

[pale steeple]

thx

[lilac plaza]

I had no idea I could get gray ones for $32. I might have kept the white keyboard

[steep badger]

yeah wooting keycaps were a bit expensive and i want some styling

[spring oar]

yeh, maybe wait.

Unless you really want it

[proven hearth]

me with my impulse 550 usd 60he

[spring oar]

me with my 80he rn

[dusk granite]

I’m another victim 🫠. Not as bad as I thought it was going to be.

[short niche]

I don't know if it's correct, because I'm terrible at math. But ChatGPT says the Wooting 80HE is 26.36mm high in the back. Can anyone confirm? lol

[short niche]

Hey, at least there was still some in the jar.

[lilac plaza]

Damn i already wasted money on the white ones.... Guess i will have to just use them

[loud wolf]

rip, mine arrived a little dented but the switches were still in the box just fine, the box did look like it got stepped on like 5 times though

[proven hearth]

at the back depends on what angle youre using

but the front is ^

[short niche]

Yeah, so I told ChatGPT the front height, and the depth of the case of 5.6 inches, with a 2.8 degree incline which is the lowest I think the board had, and it spit out the 26.36mm height.

[tropic void]

The NA experience

[lilac plaza]

You guys like low inclines?

[short niche]

Absolutely

[lilac plaza]

I immediatly put the tallest feet on it

[proven hearth]

ehh close enough

[steep badger]

Yikes that's bad. At least the keyboard looks fine from the box. You should email this video to wooting

[proven hearth]

(based on 0 math)

[short niche]

Yeah I am NOT a math guy lol. So I have no idea if I even told Chat GPT the right info to calculate.

[lilac plaza]

The secret to getting it shipped in a box was adding the extra keycaps and wrist rest

[short niche]

I would guess you probably use a wrist rest as well?

[steep badger]

yeah i ordered a wrist rest

[loud wolf]

those are some nice keycaps

[steep badger]

looks nice! How does the wrist rest feel like?

[lilac plaza]

That look ok? I just got the wooting keycaps because i wanted to be sure they matched up lol

[proven hearth]

probably front height, angle and the length

[lilac plaza]

I really like it

much better thann this shitty wood one for my keychron

[steep badger]

ah okay. i've been using a memory foam for some time with my keychron

[lilac plaza]

Although I can't stand not having one, but I also use the maximum incline

[lilac plaza]

I couldn't find a good one to fit the alice profile board

[short niche]

Yeah, it seems like people generally use one when they use the higher incline cases.

[proven hearth]

i think the silicone wrist rest is nice, hand doesnt stick to it like those razer leather ones

[lilac plaza]

Even their own wood wrist rest does not fit it right lol

[loud wolf]

@lilac plaza does the wrist rest like fit well or does it move around when you are using it?

[proven hearth]

not to mention how FLUSH it is with the keyboard

[steep badger]

thats good to know

[lilac plaza]

it fits well and does not move around

[loud wolf]

hmm cool

[dusk granite]

Will do. Keyboard came out fine luckily with no chips or anything.

[lilac plaza]

It's almost flush with the keyboard (but the incline might be affecting that)

[proven hearth]

60he doesnt have adjustable angle sooooooooo

[proven hearth]

• im using 3rd party case and its still flush

[steep badger]

mind linking it?

[proven hearth]

case for the 60he?

[lilac plaza]

I adjusted my Q8 Max by buying some clear rubber feet off amazon

[steep badger]

oh i thought you meant a 3rd party wrist rest

[proven hearth]

oh no haha, using wootings

[proven hearth]

7 degrees is fine for me (using the aftermarket case)

[lilac plaza]

What incline do I have with the giant rubber feet?

The keys feel so far away with no incline

[proven hearth]

2.8, 6 and 10 degrees

iirc

[short niche]

2.8

[tropic quest]

wonder what happened to the packages

[lilac plaza]

I need allot more incline. I don't know how people like no incline. also one reason I don't like typing on laptops I didn't realize I was the weird one

[short niche]

Does the board slip around without any feet in?

[pale steeple]

hmm for getting the not prebuild model, it doesn't give me estimate on delivery date compared to prebuild, is this normal? will it take longer?

[tropic quest]

something go wrong when they tried to hand off a batch to UPS??

[lilac plaza]

it comes with some low profile feet

[proven hearth]

i think the module is like early next year

or something

[short niche]

Yeah, they are the 2.8 degree ones, right? If you remove those, does the board slip around?

[proven hearth]

it should tell you at checkout

[lilac plaza]

no idea because they were no where near tall enough for me

So if it's more ergonomic to have no keyboard incline, then why do I feel more fatigue without propping up the back?

[pale steeple]

hmm ergonomic it depends, people yap a lot about it, but it's very situational and it depends on lost of other factors

if it feel comfy go for it ;p

[short niche]

Maybe your desk / chair isn't the proper height? Or sitting improperly? Or it could be you're just so used to typing on an incline, your wrists have grown accustomed to being angled.

[lilac plaza]

I dont sit perfect flat, I sit laying back in my chair

[short niche]

Yeah, could just be a small combo of things. But yes, being as close to 0 degree incline is the best for ergonomics. In fact, I believe having a negative incline is technically the best for you.

[lilac plaza]

Maybe it's cause I have thicker arms. I feel like my wrist is stright even with the feet

[scarlet mulch]

what case is that?

[lilac plaza]

zinc

[lilac plaza]

I think it is though but I usually have my elbow on the desk

I don't type with my keyboard at the edge of my desk

I have carpul tunnel, but switching to a vertical mouse did more for that than any keyboard tricks

[short niche]

Same, kind of. My left elbow rests on the arm of my chair, and my right elbow is on my desk. But I have a curved desk, and both my desk and chair are perfectly level.

[lilac plaza]

My chair is adjustable but I like the arm rests to slide under the desk

[lilac plaza]

I have an old ikea galant , it's large

[pale steeple]

put my order >.< should be in november 4-11 they said.. not bad?

[lilac plaza]

like 2 of those almost

[short niche]

This one is 63". So I've got 3 monitors, and my PC sitting on the desk lol.

[lilac plaza]

I have 2 keyboards though

[dim sierra]

Dont let the british ppl catch u using anis

[pale steeple]

he he hehee

[lilac plaza]

I didn't realize it was bad to use a keyboard on an incline though. Feels much better to me for some reason

[proven hearth]

ansi is superior

[lime falcon]

ansi clears

[pale steeple]

ye idk the british layout is like brexit so restrictive, always had trouble buying my favourite keycaps :(

[lilac plaza]

british layout only good if you have a case made out of alueminium

[lapis plume]

some of these switches feel impossible ro remove lul

[dim sierra]

reason why i bought module

[lapis plume]

what an experience

[proven hearth]

pull from the bottom of the switch then top

[short niche]

Sometimes it's easier to remove the switches when the board is disassembled.

[lapis plume]

weird how the opposite feels better

[lilac plaza]

Ok I put the flat feet back on. Feel so weird now

[proven hearth]

rock it back and forth 💀

[lilac plaza]

I dunno if I like this

[short niche]

Your carpal tunnel may appreciate it though lol.

[lilac plaza]

I should force myself to use it I guess

[proven hearth]

it is, you can take it down to the pcb and switches will stay on the plate

[lilac plaza]

It's probably too late for me. I just always used the feet, I had no idea I was the weird one

It drove me nuts when keyboards had bad feet

[dim sierra]

U bend ur wrist when using the kb? God bless

[lilac plaza]

Not really cause my elbows on the desk

[proven hearth]

i wished the tables in my lectures weren’t so small so i could use the wooting instead of the laptop keyboard

[lilac plaza]

just makes the keyhs a little closer

I dunno this feels so weird lol

[dim sierra]

If ur wrist isnt bend then u good

[proven hearth]

need to record new sound test tmr to compare to before

[atomic brook]

[lapis plume]

i refuse to believe anyone from production used the remover they provided to remove all switches

[fleet ridge]

its terrible

[lapis plume]

this is dog

might as well as not include

[short niche]

I've got the one that Wooting sells in a kit. Is it different?

[fleet ridge]

its so bad I used the one from 60 he

[fleet ridge]

nvm thats what I'm using

thats the better one

[lapis plume]

this is just the standard

if we combine the switch remover and the keycap remover

it saves costs!

without actually using it

[tropic void]

The key wobble is real w/this thing

[fleet ridge]

also the lekker v2 switches have baby tabs to hold to the plate

[lapis plume]

its ok v1s hold it so tight

averages out

[fleet ridge]

i just spent like 2 hours trying to switch the switches out

[echo shell]

how tight are the screws on the pcb supposed to be? i unscrewed them by accident and when i screwed them back on, my enter, space, shift, tab, and backspace dont come back up when pressed, it just stays down

[fleet ridge]

jjust put in all raw he

[proven hearth]

Glory to Geon and all that he touches!

[short niche]

They do not need to be super tight at all. Did you mess with your stabs at all? Lube them? Adjust them?

[tropic void]

how's the key wobble vs lekker v2?

[proven hearth]

uhh this us more of a wrong stabilizer installation

[echo shell]

whats a stab 💀 i know nothing of keyboards tbh

[proven hearth]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yz-UzTY8_I

[short niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6vTEtwZ50 this guy has some sound tests / wobble tests of various switches in the 80HE.

[proven hearth]

@echo shell just follow this guide

[echo shell]

i’ll take a look thanks

[lilac plaza]

Pretty sure if I use an incline, my elbow is just bent a little more

[white creek]

anyone have recos for transparent keycaps that go with the ghost 80HE?

[proven hearth]

pbtfan xrays

[tropic void]

Bro has the smallest fingers ive ever seen on a man

[fleet ridge]

The B is the geon raw he and the N is the lekker v2

[tropic void]

Perfect, thanks. Yeah the lekkers got some nasty wobble. I have this $130 chinese kb i picked up recently that has zero wobble and actually puts my 80HE to shame build quality wise.

I notice it for sure

[echo shell]

i watched the video but it doesnt seem to be this. the keys that have this issue work fine when the screws arent screwed into the stabilizers from the pcb, but when i screwed them in, it becomes stuck

i didnt touch the stabilizers at all really, just the screws on the pcb

[short niche]

Did you unscrew the stabilizers from the PCB?

[echo shell]

yeah by accident when i was changing the lekker switches

[short niche]

Okay, did the stabilizers come apart? They are basically 3 components, a stem, a housing, and a wire.

[proven hearth]

are your stabilizers facing the right way?

[echo shell]

they didnt come apart, the tab key stabilizer fell out but i put it back in, and the key works find until i screw them in

and this is happening with all the keys that have stabilizers

[echo shell]

yes they align with the screw holes on the pcb

[proven hearth]

huh this is interesting

do you have a pic or video?

hard to understand through text

[short niche]

Yeah, if we could get a picture of your board that would help.

[native salmon]

has anyone gotten their zinc raw 80he yet?

[echo shell]

basically as is, when i flip the module over and press the keys right now, they go down and come back up like normal, but when i reassemble them and screw into the screwholes on the stabilizers, they become either super sticky or stuck at the bottom completely

[native salmon]

i bought ceramic keycaps, new stabs etc

[proven hearth]

put the stabilizers on the pcb first

[native salmon]

its been sitting there for a few months now @@

im gonna lose it

[echo shell]

as in screw it onto pcb first?

[proven hearth]

i think your issue is that youre not clipping the bottom of the stabilizers in

before screwing the stabilizers in

[proven hearth]

on the other side of the stabilizer, you see one has a clip and the other is a screw hole?

you want to put the clip in and then screw it down

[echo shell]

yeah i see it now, i’ll try clipping it into the hole on the pcb first

[proven hearth]

hol on let me get a video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=73j3hbwt22w 2:06

dont mind its a different stabilizer, installed the same way

[snow canyon]

😭 can we skip to november

[proven hearth]

@echo shell

[snow canyon]

[echo shell]

thanks i’ll check it out rq

[proven hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/waits-faster-gif-25014643

[dim sierra]

My wooting is here

[snow canyon]

🥲

[snow canyon]

very nais which case and color

[dim sierra]

White zinc with module

[snow canyon]

[granite anvil]

I feel your pain

[short niche]

See how the stabs are on the PCB first?

[fleet ridge]

my only gripe with the 80he looking at it now is the thick ass forehead it has

[proven hearth]

OH THE SPACEBAR IS BACKWARDS COMPARED TO THE OTHER STABILIZERS!!! @echo shell

[fleet ridge]

the top bezel is bigger than all the others

[dim sierra]

damn they use so little lube

[echo shell]

i swear to jesus h christ the spacebar came like that

[echo shell]

yeah i didnt know about the hooks, trying that now

[proven hearth]

no its supposed to be that way

[short niche]

The spacebar is supposed to be backwards though, isn't it? The bar goes on the North side?

[proven hearth]

yes

it faces up when the other faces down

[short niche]

Yeah

[proven hearth]

didnt want him to install it upside down

[short niche]

https://tenor.com/view/baraba-careca-feio-calvão-cachorro-calvo-gif-5156596641994707328

[fleet ridge]

literally the 80he

[proven hearth]

im so glad i got a black plate for my 60he, looks way better

[deep forum]

does anyone know how to install new switches onto the 80he? i want to put my lekker 45s on here but idk if its hotswap or not

[dim sierra]

its hotswap

[deep forum]

fr?

[proven hearth]

wooting has a tutorial on yt

[azure garnet]

is 80he screw in stabs?

[deep forum]

ohh ok

[dim sierra]

yeah just pull it and and push it in

[proven hearth]

yes

[deep forum]

do yk the title of the vid?

[azure garnet]

1.2mm or 1.6mm?

[proven hearth]

1.6

[short niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY This is for the 60HE, but it shows how to remove the switches.

[azure garnet]

and what does the pole differ? it says there is regular and long pole

[short niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNa5wuqiFVY Assembly guide for 80HE

[proven hearth]

it depends on keycaps and switches

[azure garnet]

geon raw switches and wooting keycaps

[tropic void]

What actuation points and RT settings are you all using for FPS games and the lekker v2s?

[atomic brook]

both but go long pole

[proven hearth]

either one will be fine then

[azure garnet]

thank you

[deep forum]

ty sm

[proven hearth]

but if you do plan on getting cheap keycaps listen to @atomic brook

get long poles

[dim sierra]

now i got to lube my knight stab to put it in my 80he 💀 i hate it

[short niche]

0.3mm for all keys except space bar and shift which I normally have closer to 1.0mm. RT set to continuous with 0.15mm.

[proven hearth]

dont overlube it 😊

[dim sierra]

u use lesser lube for knight stabs?

[tropic void]

damn that's sensitive, but you switched to the L45's right?

[proven hearth]

(i did and when the stem bottomed out, it stuck a little to the pcb )

[short niche]

Yeah

[proven hearth]

if you got clears itll be easy to tell, you just want a thin layer

[dim sierra]

💀 ok i will put lesser lube, i hate doing stab the most because there is always something wrong

[short niche]

That's only FPS games though. For general typing / all other games I use a 1.0mm with no RT.

[tropic void]

I'm still trying to dial them in and see what feels good. I think the ultimate test will be to see if i can pull off a superglide in apex

[proven hearth]

i had to take apart my 60he+ 4 times

but thats more skill issue

[short niche]

Yup. I think I took mine apart at least 6 or 7 times changing case foams, swapping switches, lubing, and removing lube.

First keyboard I had ever modded. It was a fun learning experience.

[proven hearth]

it was fun till i dropped a screw and lost it to the void

[dim sierra]

same but i was using plate mount because i have the old 60he, and 3rd party stabs just aint it

[tropic void]

sounds liek what i'd do

[proven hearth]

i used some left over m2x6mm screws to sub in the one i lost

[echo radish]

https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable?Color=Stealth do these work on the 80he? Does it juice it enough is what I mean

[short niche]

I'm not sure yet if I'm going to get 3rd party stabs. I guess I'll lube up the stock ones and see how they are. I'm not SUPER picky when it comes to those.

[tropic void]

I saw a baggie with extra screws for the 80HE

[proven hearth]

yeah those can work

the thread is just right

(m2x6mm)

[tropic void]

Looks like a good fit

[atomic brook]

yup

[proven hearth]

flush with the top when pcb installed

[arctic ice]

#🌟│wooting80he message did they arrive today ?

[echo radish]

Dopeee

[midnight iron]

he said monday most likely, also it's only 8am in netherlands still

[lilac plaza]

I might have to look into those stabalizers

[arctic ice]

Naniiiii

[short niche]

Yeah, I'm debating those as well. Kil-mat, TX AP stabs, and Jade Max (maybe).

[proven hearth]

i hated tx aps, it was so hard getting the wires into the stab housing that holds the wire in place

but that couldve just been my set

i felt like the stabs were gonna snap or the wire was bending due to how much force i was putting on

[short niche]

But did they sound good in the end? Or not much difference?

[proven hearth]

i never got it in

[lilac plaza]

where do you get them from?

[proven hearth]

i returned them and got sw knights

[short niche]

Haven't bought them yet. Got the kil-mat from Amazon.

Might just stick with the stock stabs / L45s. I'll know by tomorrow.

[lilac plaza]

I dont see what good it will do with the zinc case?

[proven hearth]

kil-mat dampens sound better than foam

[lilac plaza]

But the case is already so dense and heavy what good is a little matt going to do?

[carmine pulsar]

only 1 more month chat

[short niche]

Reduces vibrations. Metal cases tend to be more "pingy" than plastic ones.

I like more muted typing. Not a big fan of the clacky clack.

[lilac plaza]

but sound deadner usually just adds mass. That is how it works. closed cell foam would actualy remove noise

This is how I used to do car audio stuff back in the day. All that RAMMAT etc all it is doing is adding weight

But to reduce cabin noise you use closed cell foam?

Dense metal should vibrate much?

[short niche]

I tested using kil-mat, MLV, poron, neoprene, and another one I can't recall. kil-mat and MLV were definitely my favorites by far. I put 1 layer of kil-mat, with a layer of poron over the top.

[lilac plaza]

which case?

[short niche]

That was using an aluminum flat case on my 60HE.

[lilac plaza]

and you noticed a big difference?

I'm thinking I will notice more difference from the stabs

[short niche]

Yeah, for sure. Even layering the poron / neoprene in there. Swapping to something like kil-mat / MLV made a very noticeable difference in how it sounded.

[proven hearth]

you can tune stock stabs to be pretty good imo

[lilac plaza]

so I would take out the foam and put in the kil-mat?

[lilac plaza]

I don't know much about that

Just greasing them?

[short niche]

It looks like there's enough room to use both. A layer of kil-mat and then the stock foam over that. I believe they used a EDPM.

[spark lantern]

When I received my prebuilt zinc 80HE, all of the case screws were loose. The top case and bottom case were rattling together. Had to tighten them myself. Weird.

[proven hearth]

you can “balance” the wires. to do this you hold down one end of the wire with 2 fingers and tap the other end with 1 finger

if it rattles or you hear a tapping sound you can bend it

hold on

my explanation is shit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=547rtvaE9nI

[lilac plaza]

sounds painful

[proven hearth]

its just trial and error

[echo shell]

@proven hearth @short niche that was the issue, you guys are the goats

i was tweaking for a sec

[lilac plaza]

But if I just replace them wouldn't that be easier?

[proven hearth]

well yes

but yk money

[short niche]

Unless the ones you replace them with are also bent.

[proven hearth]

that too

[tropic void]

I'd just lose patience and order a new one

[proven hearth]

my stock spacebar wire was so bent 💀

it sounded 900x better after a little bending though

[lilac plaza]

interesting, so buying replacement isn't really going to be much benefit then?

[proven hearth]

and used 205g0 lube

[proven hearth]

not if you take the time to tune your stock ones

and lube it

[short niche]

I used 205g0 on my stabilizer housings, and molykote on the wires. Seemed to work really well on the stock 60HE stabs.

[proven hearth]

i just did 205g0 on everything and it seems to be doing pretty well

[lilac plaza]

what lube? All I Have is some TriboSys 3204 Grease I got to rebuild my topre (which I keep putting off).

[upbeat pumice]

Just finished watching MikeyTypes video, he had high praise for the Lekker V2 switches. I think Wooting did a good job on them.

[proven hearth]

i bought this and it seems to be a real 205g0 (not too watery) https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Switches-Grease-Gateron-Mechanical/dp/B09B9RL1QQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?

[lilac plaza]

I am afraid to do the topre because IK hear the the switch holders tend to break when you remove them and I need to remove them all to sand down the plate so I can remove the rust and repaint it

[proven hearth]

a lot cheaper than krytox

[lilac plaza]

I also have Nyogel 760G

[proven hearth]

1/2 the price

[lilac plaza]

added to cart

Got a link for the kill matt?

[short niche]

https://www.amazon.com/Dynoskin-Deadening-Automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B0CYTDG45F/ref=sr_1_7?

Mine wasn't that brand, but same 80mil thickness.

[lilac plaza]

that brand ok though?

Kinda pricy

[short niche]

Yeah, it is more on the expensive side.

[lilac plaza]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/tx-stabilizers-newest-2023-almost-perfect-edition

Which stabs would be the correct ones for this board if I did go this route?

[short niche]

Sorbothane is another option which would probably be even better than kil-mat.

[lilac plaza]

https://www.amazon.com/Isolate-Sorbothane-Acoustic-Vibration-Damping/dp/B019GBMG14

$30 for one piece? nuts

[short niche]

Yeah, it's expensive lol.

[azure garnet]

I orderd regular stabs instead of long pole :/

is it still ok?

[short niche]

I think so?

[lilac plaza]

I have no idea that is why I am asking

[midnight iron]

https://swagkeys.com/products/sw-knight-stabilizer are better

if you were replacing stabs these are what I'd pick

[lilac plaza]

I don't even know what holee mod is

[midnight iron]

comes in both long pole and normal

[midnight iron]

you don't need to do that with newer stabs

that's an old thing thats outdated now if you buy newer gen stabs

[short niche]

Using a piece of bandaid or other material inside the housing of the stab to create a soft surface for the pole to rest/bounce on, reducing the pinging noise.

[azure garnet]

long or standard pole?

[midnight iron]

normal if lekker switches, long pole if raw he or jade switches

[lilac plaza]

The standard ones? Why are these better?

[midnight iron]

or normal + stem spacers

[short niche]

I tried putting a holee mod on a single stab with my 60HE, and said hell no. lol

[midnight iron]

because they're tighter fit and known to just work well with very little work

tx is fine too, but knight v2 are even better

[lilac plaza]

are they both made in china?

[midnight iron]

almost all keyboard stuff is made in china

[lilac plaza]

yea...

[midnight iron]

swagkey and tx are both korean though

but made in china still

[lilac plaza]

those look like they are more pieces?

[midnight iron]

what do you mean?

it's just a standard stab set

[lilac plaza]

I don't know I have never bothered to mod my keyboards much before

[short niche]

The little pieces on the left go inside the bigger pieces with the screw holes, and then the wires connect one "set" on each side.

[lilac plaza]

I replaced a gasket in my keychron that's about it

I have added orings to my topre to give it better sounds

[lilac plaza]

There is like flat pieces on the right

those just go under the stabs?

[short niche]

Oh I'm not honestly sure on that. I haven't bought 3rd party stabs before.

[midnight iron]

the flat pieces are just for compatibility with thinner pcb

you don't use them in wooting but some stabs come with them just in case you need them

[lilac plaza]

ok

I think I might be better off spending $15 than trying to tune the stock ones.

Anything way cheaper on Ali Express

[midnight iron]

yeah but requires more modding to get working well

the entire thing with knight v2 and such is they're hard to mess up for beginners which is why they're so popular

it's just very thin coat of 205g0 lube, put them together and done

[short niche]

Oh trust me, I can fuck ANYTHING up. lol

[empty notch]

just got my 80he today

[short niche]

I should have mine within the next 19 hours. Unless UPS decides they hate me.

[keen gorge]

I want the Zinc Alloy White

[real shale]

Crazy, i was crazy once, they put me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy Crazy, i was crazy once, they put me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy Crazy, i was crazy once, they put me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazyCrazy, i was crazy once, they put me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[spark pulsar]

smh

[azure garnet]

What is the difference between Swagkeys Knight Stabilizer V2 and TX AP

[midnight iron]

completely different brands and stabs.

knight v2 are more popular these days because they're a tad tighter

they're the current 'hot' stabilizer that everyone likes

i think both are perfectly fine and can be tuned to be good

[lilac plaza]

Any reason the black ones are sold out over the clear?

[midnight iron]

they just haven't made them in awhile

knight v2 are insanely popular and they can barely keep them stocked. You're only able to buy them because they put some stock internationally which sells out slower - but all their korean stock sells in the same day that they put it up every time

[lilac plaza]

So your saying I should just go ahead an order them?

[midnight iron]

well if you want new stabs sure, up to you

[lilac plaza]

the right side definately sounds worse than the left side

[dull token]

I think I'm a little retarded, the height adjustment feet face which way?

[midnight iron]

i mean if I were you i'd literally just buy a syringe of stab lube for $5 or whatever before buying new stabs

but if you want to buy new stabs then I'd go knight v2

[dull token]

Camera will not focus bruh, but is it this way or the other way?

other way stick out a bit

[midnight iron]

other way

[dull token]

😭

[lilac plaza]

Team Keyboard feet

feels so weird using this board now that I took them off

[dull token]

This board is too flat and big to use flat feet imo

Without slight angle I feel like reaching f keys is weird, and I have big hands

This keyboard sounds so good stock 🤤

[lilac plaza]

Literally what i said lol

[dull token]

Idk why you took em off then

[lilac plaza]

Supposed to be more ergonomic without them

[dull token]

Maybe I'll change my mind once my wrist wrest comes in

[dull token]

It's the opposite

[lilac plaza]

Nah it won't i'm using the wrist rest lol

[dull token]

Not sure how struggling to reach the top row is ego

[midnight iron]

i use keyboards at that angle before

[lilac plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWAvEu4aQ-Y

[dull token]

Being able to do it effortlessly seems better for your hands

[midnight iron]

you just get used to it

realistically most people can get used to whatever if you give it a week

[dull token]

All of my 60% keyboards are always somewhat angled, I've never used feet tho

[lilac plaza]

I had my keychron for a couple weeks until I added stick on silicon feet to it. And I was like OMG so muchb better lol

[dull token]

It doesn't make a difference or make it better to use it flat tho

[midnight iron]

anytime you change angle it'll feel awkward for a bit, but after a week or two it's all just normal

[midnight iron]

it's better for wrist posture

[valid comet]

a friend of mine wants a 80HE, does he have to get a wooting hub account

[midnight iron]

but it's not a big deal overall in the end either way

[lilac plaza]

posture guy in video basically Said ok boomer, use your keyboard feet and enjoy your carpul tunnel

[dull token]

Really? I feel like without the feet reaching for the f row tenses my hand so much lma

[midnight iron]

cranking wrist = bad

so more flat = less crank

[dull token]

Cranking as in angling it up?

[midnight iron]

yeah, it puts more pressure in bad spots

[dull token]

Never heard cracking wrist idk what that means

[lilac plaza]

Yes my hands get tired much faster without feet

[ember creek]

the more neutral your wrist is the better

[lilac plaza]

maybe not as bad asd teh Q8 though

[lilac plaza]

That depends if I am hunched over or slouching back in my chair thnough

[dull token]

So ur only not using it because a YouTube video said you're gonna get caple tunnel if you change the angle by 6°?

Feel like you should use whatever is more comfortable

[midnight iron]

honestly you can get used to whatever angle you want in 1-2 weeks, so I just use the one that's more ergonomic

i've used 0, 4, 6, 8 etc

[dull token]

If there was any real study behind angling a keyboard and causing health issues, it wouldn't be an option

[midnight iron]

you just get used to it with enough time

[lilac plaza]

Im going to try it out. Granted my other keyboard still has the angle

[midnight iron]

that's not how it works lol

[lilac plaza]

so it will only get 50% use

[midnight iron]

look if you want to use higher angle and crank your wrist up it's fine, but lower angle is more ergonomic

[lilac plaza]

In that video he says it was originally an option for boomers with their type writers

[midnight iron]

it's not like it's guaranteed carpal tunnel etc, just that one is less strain than the other, but good typing form and not pushing down into your wrist is most important

[dull token]

Preference is preference. Considering the amount of people who play with their keyboard at 90° I think the height is the least damaging thing lol

[midnight iron]

you can continue using your 6 degree or whatever if you want, it's less ergonomic but it is what it is

i don't think 'amount of people doing x' is a good argument one way or another

[dull token]

Once my wrist wrest comes in, the flat will prob feel beter

[lilac plaza]

feels like my wrist has to work more without the feet

I think it feels better angled with the rest

[dull token]

I'm saying there's worse things that people with keyboards do that are more damaging to their physical health

[midnight iron]

sure, but that's a poor argument to make

[lilac plaza]

I'm just stupid or anti trend I guess

[midnight iron]

it's whataboutism and not addressing the point

[tidal drum]

So… the 80he is basically just cheating

Fortnite with the 80he is actually night and day

[dull token]

It's legit preference lol

[lilac plaza]

I haven't even played any games yet been too busy

[midnight iron]

preference does not equal good or bad posture

those are separate topics

[dull token]

.1 actuation and rappy snappy?

[lilac plaza]

I think if Im leanning forward or sitting straight flatg is good.

If I'm reclined I like the lifted feet

[midnight iron]

no one here is forcing you to swap your preference. You can use your preference if you want. People are just saying that certain angles are technically worse and that is 100% true even if it's yours or anyone elses preference

[lilac plaza]

either way my wrist feels straight

[remote flume]

yea for now 😂

[lilac plaza]

thing is you cann angle with your arm instead of your wrist

[midnight iron]

someone could prefer an angle of 20 degrees and playing upside down suspended in a net. That doesn't make it good or bad from any standpoint

[dull token]

Not sure how something can be 100% true with everyone having different hands and keyboards for that matter but alr

[midnight iron]

because everyone has the same nerves etc in the same-ish spot

[lilac plaza]

im laying so far back in my chair I might as well be in bed

[midnight iron]

preference doesn't change where your nerves are located

[lilac plaza]

posture dude would trip

[tidal drum]

I didn’t even have rappy snappy enabled😳 should I do it for A and D?

[midnight iron]

preference is just whatever you got used to over time, it's not good or bad, it's just what your body became used to because you did it for a long enough time

[lilac plaza]

I did for WASD, but not sure if that is best

[dull token]

Idk if everyone positions their hands or keyboard the same but I cba or argue about keyboard height

[midnight iron]

just like how fps gamer tilt their keyboard and got used to it over time

[midnight iron]

everyone generally has the same hands and nerves etc yes.

[dull token]

Oh the actuation alone makes night a day lol?

I have yet to turn on my keyboard or play

[midnight iron]

i don't think you're really understanding the topic but that's fine we can move on

[crimson sluice]

let's take the train

[tidal drum]

Dude- it’s actually nuts. Depending on what keyboard you have now, you’re probably gonna be a lot sloppier when building because your ability to place builds and edit is not faster than you can comprehend initially😭😭

[dull token]

I'm understanding the topic, I just don't think it matters as much as you say it does

[midnight iron]

no one is saying it's be all end all.

we're just saying it is 100% true that some angles are better than others ergonomically

[dull token]

Half by build binds are on my mouse 😩

[tidal drum]

I just did too. I’ll try and it out and see🤷‍♂️

[midnight iron]

no one is saying you'll tilt your keyboard too much and get cancer suddenly

[tidal drum]

Same here. Still crazy. Editing is definitely the most shocking

[midnight iron]

just that preference doesn't mean jack all in terms of ergonomics and what works for your body and some angles are indeed better

[dull token]

Damn, guess I'ma have to hop on fort TMR morning and test it out

[tidal drum]

But overall everything just feels so much more fluent and smooth

[dull token]

My account has like 100k vbucks and I don't even play the game 😭

[tidal drum]

Haha I feel that lol

[dull token]

Do I swap out for the l45's?? I'm so used to 50g switches with old keyboard but maybe it's worth to get used to the l60

[midnight iron]

if nothing else all the people using shitty gaming chairs with bad posture are ruining their shoulders/arms more than anything else

[dull token]

True, gaming chairs are a crazy gimmick

Ergo chair ftw

[midnight iron]

thoracic outlet syndrome becoming way common among gamers

it's the same thing faker keeps suffering from after years of using those awful gaming chair setups

[unborn pecan]

If you think a bad keyboard angle can’t result in health issues you shouldn’t have a keyboard 🤷‍♂️

[lilac plaza]

good chair didn't fix my spinal stinosis or fix my herniated disc

[unborn pecan]

It’s not hurting it either, good chairs and keyboard angle is more about prevention than fixing the issue itself

[midnight iron]

yep. It's why i've been using computers since ms dos for 30+ years now and still have zero arm and wrist issues

[jade widget]

Pretty much if you can prevent the problem before it starts that's ideal

[midnight iron]

all the stuff is just preventative because it's more about what happens in 10-20 etc years of bad posture

[jade widget]

Instead of being the ambulance at bottom of the hill

[midnight iron]

well that and I see all my friends with gamer posture so I always try to correct it as much as I can

it's hard to stop the lean in posture though

[lilac plaza]

I do the opposite and lean way back

[dull token]

What the hell is the advantage of this

Don't you see less being that close

[buoyant solstice]

Counterstrike is all about narrow sightlines and hitting a pixel before it hits you.

[midnight iron]

it works for sure. Problem is you get into that habit and you get closer and closer to the screen over time and people naturally lean forward when they focus up as well

so then you end up with hopperbus photo lol

[dusk mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128714733625806868/1291669112967401504/image.png?ex=6700f01a&is=66ff9e9a&hm=90826e9259aea155accb4bfd36c9f4ddebe436dddf6ad7587aa8e72e5e86adfc&

how i make this porofile not inactive

[buoyant solstice]

My profiles on the left.

There you can drag them around.

[dusk mortar]

thank you very much

[digital elm]

Yeah, same goes for Siege

[pale steeple]

honestly in terms of ergonomics, just exercise and have a decent posture, i mean not totally out of place.. a bit of forhead head posture, or extension in wrist will not ruin you if you sleep well, eat well, and exercise and train your muscles...

I had severe RSI at some point and i went ergonomic rabit hole, nothing worked till i started strengthing my wrist lol

so i just went back to normal mouse/keyboardand is much better imo than learning new layout and constantly trying to monitor my posture

i d say desk height and chair are most important

but im not a doctor

https://1-hp.org/ this guy makes really nice articles about these type of stuff and videos

meow

[ornate pike]

pros normally dodge flashes mostly easily, but if they are caught by one they gon feel the entire duration

[drowsy oar]

It was a hard choice between this and the two, but I can't do without my home and end buttons easily accessible, and I only have one usb-c slot on my motherboard, currently being occupied by the mouse.

Finally made the jump with the recent updates to corsair's software causing it to soft crash every time I close it and oftentimes taking out file manager and freezing up the computer for a minute.

[lilac plaza]

I really like my Alice layout. Not really ergo but it just feels easier to use. I think it would be interesting to try a tented alice layout

[buoyant solstice]

My iCue's working just fine.

[drowsy oar]

hm

[lone bronze]

well - as fine as it ever works

[drowsy oar]

It usually worked meh to awful, this last update was just the tipping point.

gosh darn sick of icue

[buoyant solstice]

It's a bulky app for sure - But it works.

[lilac plaza]

you can change the keys on the right to be home and end, althjough I have mine set to Fn+ up and down.

[drowsy oar]

my muscle memory is too used to a full layout keyboard

[lilac plaza]

I have iCue for monitoring my PSU output

[buoyant solstice]

I unfortunately rely on it to control all of my cooling (and case fan RGB) for the time being. Switching away is not a quick or cheap thing to do 😄

[lilac plaza]

I mean it's almost full 80% which is just full keyboard without the duplicate keys

I paid for an 80% but only got 77.5%

[drowsy oar]

yknow what's funny is I have an icue case and PSU, but there aren't enough 2.0 slots on the motherboard to connect both.

[buoyant solstice]

Use a splitter.

[drowsy oar]

I have a thing, from nzxt, that fancy one

just haven't installed it yet

[lilac plaza]

I bought a splitter

[buoyant solstice]

The cable doesn't need two, full USB2 ports anyhow. It just needs the one for data and sometimes a bit of power.

[lilac plaza]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076Q8685Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[buoyant solstice]

Sure would be nice for a new standard instead of piggybacking on USB

[drowsy oar]

I own one I just need to take the time to install it.

It's a whole process getting the computer out of the web of stuff and cables.

and I am lazy

[lilac plaza]

Yea my computer is FULL of dust right now

[drowsy oar]

I'm beginning to feel that the number of devices I have plugged into the computer is part of the problem.

[lilac plaza]

really need to clean it and change out the distilled water for some better fluid

[drowsy oar]

oh damn you got the FANCY cooler

[buoyant solstice]

Better... fluid?

[lilac plaza]

I have always just run distilled for the past 15 years or so

[drowsy oar]

yeah, like polluted water

[lilac plaza]

but I pulled apart a compter with about 12 years on the blocks and it had corrosion

So I'm not sure where it came from...

[buoyant solstice]

Well it didn't come from the water that's for sure 😄

Hope you're using additives though

[lilac plaza]

Going to switch to modern PC coolant to see if it works better. They at least sell clear coolants now

[buoyant solstice]

Which is still just distilled water with anti algae additives chucked in 😄

[drowsy oar]

I bet that stuff's just fancy antifreeze

[lilac plaza]

This was straight distilled with PT nuke, and I rarely changed the water, just topped it off

[drowsy oar]

no mold?

[lilac plaza]

well you can't just use antifreeze cause it will leech plastic out of the lines if you use the wrong type

[drowsy oar]

tru

[lilac plaza]

water was still clear

[drowsy oar]

I bet there's a youtube video where someone did it.

[buoyant solstice]

I've always used EK's non-solid liquids. Never had any issues.

[lilac plaza]

I did get something once, and cleaned it out over the 12 year period.

[drowsy oar]

I just bought an AIO cooler and called it a day.

[lilac plaza]

My new rig has nickle blocks though and I used PT nuke, I was reading it will destory nickle so I'm a bit worried.

[buoyant solstice]

PT Nuke is specifically not for nickel. So expect the plating to peel off.

[lilac plaza]

but then again I pulled a video card with a nickle block out after having it in a loop for over 5 years with PT nuke and it looked brand new, where the copper showed only light corrosion (discoloring).

[lilac plaza]

I almost think it's just an EK problem

[drowsy oar]

oops it did it again

now I'm mad, it corrupted my file transfer.

[buoyant solstice]

No it's a PT Nuke problem. The chemical composition is not made for nickel. It's an ancient product that should be retired 😄

[lilac plaza]

yea well I still have a whole bottle lol

it didn't do anything to my plated block last time around

that like like 5-6 years on it

My server was all copper though, and the radiator corroded and the blocks... everything

[buoyant solstice]

Most coolants have a shelf life of about two years, so you probably poured in stuff that had lost its effect to begin with 😄

[lilac plaza]

it's ancient though....

[lilac plaza]

I beleive PT nuke lasts pretty much forever

yea I have some mayhems X1 it was the only clear stuff I could find for a reasonable price.

going to try to get that in there soon

[upbeat berry]

ah yes the nickel plating will be so happy in modern components of waterloops

[buoyant solstice]

Your loop, your decisions. I can only shake my head at choosing to use stuff you shouldn't for a loop with expensive parts 😄

[lilac plaza]

yea I'd rather not use PT nuke in there, but it's only been in there for about a year

Maybe I will tear look in the CPU block and see if I notice anything

4090 block is much more difficult.

[upbeat berry]

interesting theres a nickel safe version of PT nuke called PHN nuke

didnt know that

[lilac plaza]

that's my 1080ti that was run it's whole life with a couple drops of PT nuke in the loop

nickel looks great

[silk pagoda]

nice 👀

[upbeat berry]

the copper sulfate isnt too highly concentrated but the long and short is nickel kicks out the copper from the PT nuke and the copper deposits on the nickel

[lilac plaza]

This was the CPU though, but it had about 4 more years on it

It cleaned up pretty good though, so it's going into my fileserver that is going to recycle those old parts

This block had I think 15-16 years on it and the pins were toast.

[hidden marsh]

time for an ultrasonic cleaner it looks like

[lilac plaza]

it is retired now lol... but even in such a state I bet it still works well enough.

Ya that was AFTER I cleaned that one

but thats for a Core 2 Duo system so I think I got my moneys worth

[drowsy oar]

thought that was a waffle iron

[lilac plaza]

It's new purpose

[dim sierra]

can u have rgb off and light bar on? doesnt seems to work

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[drowsy oar]

hey you mentioned you have an icue enabled PSU. I got a question. What the heck is the difference between the single rail and multi rail mode?

[lilac plaza]

I found that the global settings don't always work if you have certain profile settings

[dim sierra]

how do turn off rgb without turning off light bar?

[lilac plaza]

basically, the profile settings might override

[buoyant solstice]

By doing it.

[dim sierra]

global brightness 0 makes light bar not light up too

[buoyant solstice]

If only there was a way to tell a key to not light up at all.

[humble cargo]

top 10 lifehacks

[lilac plaza]

One work around is to set each key as black

[dim sierra]

oh so black is off i used to do brightness 0 for off

[drowsy oar]

there's no brightness toggle or macro?

[upbeat berry]

there is brightness up and down keybinds

[buoyant solstice]

When are you ever going to use that?

[lilac plaza]

yea im calling it a work around

[drowsy oar]

I always turn my keyboard lights off before leaving station

I know that their lifespan is so long I shouldn't worry but like..............

[lilac plaza]

Nah, just set the timer to do that for you

[buoyant solstice]

There's a dimming function for when you're afk

[dim sierra]

yeah was wondering if there was actually a black colour

[buoyant solstice]

If you really need to have a blackout function, you can just add a profile with no brightness and swap to that.

[lilac plaza]

no brightness shuts off the Light Bar though

[buoyant solstice]

Yes? They were asking to disable all LEDs to conserve on their lifespan.

[lilac plaza]

Oh I thought they wanted them all off except the light bar

[dim sierra]

would be nice to separate light bar brightness from the normal keys

also the 80he takes so much power that my 3rd party cable doesnt work

[oak jungle]

wow on vid live they said will put geon Raw in the store

that's nice

[buoyant solstice]

It's called global for a reason 😄

[lilac plaza]

Im going to do a lights out proifile too

[dim sierra]

yeah im saying it would be nice to have a separate option

[buoyant solstice]

#1141096226884956181 🙂

[lilac plaza]

yea, blacking out the keys will leave the light bar on, its a good work around.

[red heart]

I could get the raw he from aliexpress store and buy the kbdfans brush at the same time

[hushed sinew]

yeah we know it's on the list

[lilac plaza]

The mode button will only toggle between two profiles?

[slate lantern]

I think I'm gonna need a new puller

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. That's the point.

Primary profile - and whichever one of the others you last used.
CYCLE is an alternative, or using profile specific ones.

[lilac plaza]

so how do I switch to my 3rd profile?

[buoyant solstice]

See above

[pastel dust]

Been seeing this for the pass 2 weeks..anyone received their raw zinc case yet?

[lilac plaza]

I don't seem to have a Cycle key

[ornate jasper]

nope

[humble cargo]

its not nescessary, its just an option for switching between profiles

[pastel dust]

The packing simply takes too long

[ornate jasper]

My raw zinc has been on ready to pack for 3+ weeks

[lilac plaza]

Thanks that fixed it

[ornate jasper]

I do know something about coating, something something but haven't heard anything since

[pastel dust]

Same here! Could be I ordered the raw zinc case that prolonged the process

[ornate jasper]

I ordered mine very early April

[midnight iron]

tldr - they had polish marks on first batch so they had it redone at factory and new ones sent out

they are waiting for EU warehouse to receive and clear it for shipping

[pastel dust]

I ordered during the founders campaign

[midnight iron]

last update on raw zinc for EU is roughly monday for it

[zealous oak]

@pastel dust @ornate jasper #🌟│wooting80he message

[midnight iron]

that one is old alex

new timeline is monday

[ornate jasper]

Second time I get pinged to that post 😛

[ornate jasper]

This I already knew

[zealous oak]

Oh didnt ser that on pinned messages. They need to update it then

[midnight iron]

they're just waiting for cases to be inbounded and cleared in EU now

mark said monday-ish

[ornate jasper]

Besides that, the shipping thing, why the bags?

[midnight iron]

that's an NA issue, doesn't affect us EU batch folk

[ornate jasper]

I get it America this and that but common

[midnight iron]

their warehouse rulesets had some holes in it which led to some orders being sent in plastic instead of a box

thankfully EU didn't have that issue and it's all been good from that side

[buoyant solstice]

Well... it can still happen in the EU warehouse. Just not for the 80HE due to the weight.

[fleet ridge]

thats why my package was damaged

[nova nexus]

I'll be making a post in #📦│batch_updates later today with some overig updates across various products

[drowsy oar]

what are the chances of this in future batches? I just placed an order and It just asked me to confirm my address. Really fast turnabout by the way, very nice.

[midnight iron]

of what?

[drowsy oar]

I was expecting to wait at least a month for something bespoke like the wooting

wooting two specifically

[midnight iron]

what do you mean by 'of this' though

[drowsy oar]

the plastic thing that was just mentioned

[midnight iron]

are you NA?

[drowsy oar]

yea

[midnight iron]

i'd imagine they're fixing up the ruleset now to prevent this

[dim sierra]

my 80he sounds so much better than the 60he and the knight stabs is

[buoyant solstice]

Shouldn't happen if it's a keyboard order.
At any rate if you receive a delivery with damage to products, this is of course covered.

[dim sierra]

but the kb is huuuuge

[nova nexus]

W2HE follows a different set of packing rules due to its length

For better or for worse... Comes with its own set of problems 😅

[drowsy oar]

dope

[wind tiger]

let it soak in minereal spirits and then to clean oxidation let it sit in ketchup for an hour

[nova nexus]

Can't just have the keyboard in stock in the right warehouse, also need the special shipping box in stock at the same warehouse, that has caused us problems in the past.. .

Not at the moment though 👍

[tropic void]

Got my wooting today and my shipment notification for my maya x. Finally it's all coming together.

[midnight iron]

if only NA had igor this would never have happened. Igor is a forward thinker and he catches these mistakes in EU warehouse and fixes them on the fly, it's why he was wooting's employee of the month last month

[nova nexus]

fax

[tropic void]

Yeah we have Jed in NA and he's special. Jk 🤣