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okay but how do you know that this is a zinc batch
I got
And dont worry even founders who are in batch 1 are also stuck at pick and pack so we are going to get our boards im oct .. how nice
my zinc in one order
not including my board
you got the same batch name
I got for my zinc
Batches aren't separated by case material
dauh then why his order keep getting pushed away the only reason it kept getting delayed cause the zinc not ready or something
that is wild, you will get it before me
I ordered 14th of April 💀
told you this is fked up
mid nov is max if they delayed it like mid dec I'll cancel my order apex pro is decent board for me
I may cancel aswell, if there will be no support answer
yeah not worth it
There’s some sort of bug right now for sure with some of their batches
I’d stay calm and not read too much into it until mark or someone confirms what’s going on
yeah, my soul can wait another 2 weeks for an answer
You’re not being bumped randomly to later batches - it’s clearly some sort of bug that happened when they fixed some of the other batch stuff
A lot of people randomly been bouncing around to different batches from keycaps to cases etc
nice to know, didn't see anyone else having this issue
hopefully they reply to my case swap switch request today 
hehehehehe 🔥
Hopefully a lot of this is covered when they do next announcement because there’s been a lot of confused folk popping in last few days when they suddenly got batch changes in their hub
aight, we stayin calm
cya boys, heading out for today - work is about to start xdd
I’m curious what caused the bug to happen in the first place. I wonder if they implemented the other case batch fix and it scuffed the rest of the batches
they knew about this long time ago and they still didn't fix it
?? this is new
nah batches with wrong name? not new
I get that you're frustrated and young but now you're just making things up

yes hence like I said notice the old batch issue seems to have been fixed.
while this new one popped up?
lel been a week hopefully I dont have to wait for 2 
they've been working on fixing the batch issue for ages now and it seems they fixed the previous one but somehow accidentally caused another one
yeah I was going to say.. they had something similar a month or two ago
yep. It's why I suspect whatever script or whatever they did to fix the old one accidentally caused these new issues
that's just guessing though
maybe
You got your board ?
No
Shipped ?
No
fr?
I saw you uploaded picture with 80he white
that was not mine
Lucky
aha
Hope the white zinc will release today
hopefully they will ship yours in time 🙂
my favourite is the guys who spend weeks freaking out over shipping but later they come back and apologise when they have their board and have had time to cool down
Yeah i red the updates
there's a few every batch
it's the never ending cycle of the wooting batch deliveries
thats classic
well they have the right to do so like wooting have the right to keep the money 7 months without shipping their product
Bad experience will always be remembered by customers if they had one
i disagree, i don't believe anyone has the right to act obnoxious to everyone just because they're impatient
we all knew it wasnt coming to us for like 5 months
Maybe pre orders aren't for you 🤔
7 months of wait impatient ? how
but you cant wait for a month and a half
you can get impatient, annoyed etc, but do it without driving everyone crazy and it's all good
you being impatient doesn't justify you being a dick to others
your rights don't overcome everyone elses rights
Im calm till 2 weeks 
nice
honestly what will change in future is mark will jsut say 2-3 weeks in his estimate instead of 1 week lol
because people way overly read into a rough estimate
cause most of the stores give max estimate with the delays and other stuff
For a pre-order? How can you predict what delays are going to happen before making the product
it's not thier first pre-order product
so they should handle it better than this
people say that but never explain how
they just say "do better" but don't explain how they could have expected half the issues that came up
well I'm not the one who got millions they are
sony gave concord $400 million. Money doesn't mean you instantly have all the solutions by throwing money at something
some things just take trial and error. Like I'm sure they're reworking some processes now for qc of certain things based on what happened with some of these cases
bro
people forget that wooting isn't an experienced case manu yet. They're still very new to making cases
why are you arguing now
I'm not saying they should have all the solutions I'm saying they should dealt with this better
simple
What would you suggest they do instead? I'm sure wooting would love feedback
give solutions if you believe they could have done something better
naah wooting needs new CEO, NiceToHaveHair
look they said they delayed it for like 2 months cause they don't wanna send defect keyboard or keyboard dying on you
end of the day a lot of the people talking couldn't have done it better. They just want it done better (as does wooting and everyone else who is making any product), but it's a lot harder to do when you're new to certain things vs. an old company whose been doing it something for 10 years
look at the community support this board filled with problems
okay so how could they have avoided the 6 weeks IC issue that was only found due to a very specific way of how the boards were assembled and tested while powered up
what problems bruh
heat , keyboard get fked by firmware
heat?
yeah
their newer gen HE boards only started with 60he, before that was a different tech
and case manu they only started with alumaze as their first time
I'm not saying wooting didn't have issues, but as always a lot of the yapping is just people frustrated by delays that they honestly wouldn't have had a solution for themselves beyond "just don't run into that issue"
which I'm sure wooting would love to not run into that issue too
we all calm man I'm just saying they should dealt with this better not saying they are bad or something
yes and I'm asking how
obviously I don't know how
How do you fix the 6 week IC issue so that it didn't happen
some issues like the IC thing are just freak issues that are hard to predict and things that will happen the first time you manu a new product
well if I were them I'll not release any product with pre-order and let ppl throwing their money and dealing with my delays and board problems
And even with a lot of experience, it will happen
but that's literally their whole company deal is they let people in on the process as they build the product
if you don't want to join that you can wait for instock in december or whatever
I get why you're saying that, but with the preorder they both knew the actual demand fot the product and also already got money which they can spend making the product better
it was quite obviously communicated that it was a pre production product with a very rough timeline where issues could occur
I get that that's why we all support them
You can't have it both ways where you want a company that will communicate and let you join the process of them creating a new product, but then also say "you can't have any issues even though this is your first time making this product"
impatient mf's ordering a product when it doesnt exist yet and complaining that it takes a while
it's one or the other - these issues come with the territory
It wasn't just a pre-order it was pre-production which was very well communicated
I remember my first group buy keyboard 👀💀
I'm getting mine in two weeks. Seems soon to me
real, ordered within the first hour of it being released for pre order, im so excited
original eta was early aug, which sucks but i think its worth the wait since they made the new layout better (the arrow key change) and made sure theres no qc issues
i think this is 100% something they'll not do in future with the clips thing cause I agree clips suck lol
So people cant complain ? If they do .. you call they “impatient MF” ?
Great community
I'll have to wait over a month, but that's okay. I sometimes waited longer for in stock purchases
id rather wait an extra 2 months than deal with qc issues
Yeah that's very fair
yes, you cannot complain abt investing in a product when it hasnt even begun production and it being delayed
brother 9 month female could bring whole life into this earth
also case options is going to not be so many at launch too many things to go wrong
Yeah in a process that's been evolved for thousands of years lmao
It takes them a day or 2 to make a keyboard
translation: I'm annoyed and angry that my keyboard is delayed so now I shall compare building a new keyboard to building a human baby
My man i see you everyday malding about shipping, your order is literally at pick&pack stage
First of all im complaining about shipping .. and we are compaining after the product is born soo get your facts straight
I think when you start comparing keyboard manufacturing to the birth of humans you've lost any logical basis for your statements
comparing natural human things that we dont even control to a handmade invention not made by a billion dollar company is a crazy comparisin
And its stuck
I think it's a funny comparison, I couldn't help it
Buddy, its a PRE order
you should know what pre means, you were clearly the product of it
80he is out already .. dont call it pre now
so 7 months of pre order and if you don't get your board you can't complain just keep your month shut tf ?
Wait, it shipped to the countries super close to where it was made???? no way
doesn’t matter cuz im calm as my man @midnight iron said
no you clearly arent
Its almost like it takes more time when you need to bring thiousands of prodycts overseas
It surly is still a preorder since the product was not in stock once.
🤯
Yes. You knew what you signed up for lmao
I think it was done pretty fast, imo
I get why people are upset after waiting for so long, but complaining daily will not change anything
Imagine if it was made in Europe and the kb was 400$
when did you order and what was your ETA?
If you're delusional enought to think a preorder for something that didnt even start step 1 when you bought it is gonna take a few weeks well thats a you problem
People are ok with that and asking us to shut your mouth and stay calm
But im calm now
patience is a virtue
would buy anyways tbh
And it wouldn’t be faster too, they still would need a timeslot for the production since they don’t own the production company.
Even better in the US, where most of the ppl complaining are prob from lmao
$500 plastic keyboard ftw
tbh their boards are better than most boards in the market that's why I waited for this board
Yea i think people forget wooting doesnt own a factory that strictly makes their keyboards or their own shipping partner who basically only works with them like a lot of the billion dolla companies do
theyre doing great with what they have and theyre actively updating us about it
impatient people who know they're being unreasonable and impatient but want to vent anyway and are now trying to justify it lol
ong 😭
It doesn’t matter what is it, but you can never make it right for everybody.
honestly I should know better than to jump in though because this happens literally every batch delivery for the last 2+ years
true, but people should at least complaing abt something actually valid
like idk smth wrong with the keyboard
not the 1 aspect they cannot control lmao
I think people must be confused with what pre production really means. Tbf most pre orders are a month or so in advance because it's often just while they are sending stock out. But idk I feel like they communicated that pretty well
Imagine if they ordered a finalmouse product 
80he was more of a kickstarter than a pre order, but that was told very clearly
Yeah exactly
so yea, idk why ppl complaining
it's the same every single time new batch comes in and the people venting don't care about logic or any actual reasoning. they just want to vent and don't like being told their reasons make no sense
I haven't had a PC in 12 years. Yall got issues
Calling a customer impatient who are waiting for 7 months
Call a customer impatient who are just seeking answer
And in the end you added “LOL”
Crazy bro crazy xD
ulx user here, these guys would not survive the batch 1 preorder
this dude holy keep saying impatient for ppl how waited 7 months lol
i got a wooting uwu in like 3 days from when i bought it bruh, when smth is in stock and in production things move a lot faster
Lmfaooooooo
people wait years for things 💀
Ulx Batch 1 with all the QC issues after waiting years
you literally signed up for pre production. If you can't handle it then you should have waited and ordered a later batch
duh not for worthless stuff like board come on now
Dont buy it half a year in advance if you don't want to wait half a year lol
YOU DECIDED TO BUY IT WDYM USELESS LMAOOOOO
Wait until we can't get pc parts when China invades taiwan
bro you guys make 0 sense 😭
Just buy it, if it is in stock the next time…
this isnt life saving medicide thats taking months to arrive, its a keyboard just wait bruh
the 1 week remaining for NA batch is gonna feel longer than the past 7 months ngl 
worthless not worth waiting years as you said
swear people who are on the brink of death make less noise when their new heart is taking a but longer to fly in
youre not waiting years...
delayed into the ground, way less transparent than wooting has been
QC issues (infamous tape mod... but for your mice)
inaccurate info on advertising
This hole discussion gives me a headache. Ping me when this whole debate is over lol
litteraly since the product was actually made its only been like a month or 2 lmao
the best thing is once they get their keyboards they usually ride off into the sunset and will be replaced by teenage karen v2 in the next batch - so it never ends
the 7 month include the making of the product itself lmao, what do you want them to ship you? a board that does nothing
you can always cancel your order for a full refund 
^^^^
I love pinging 
the impatient people waiting on batch deliveries has been a thing for the last 2 years and will probably continue until every wooting is instock lol
yeah give your order to a last day batch 2 founder
Bro thinks this was a debate lmao
Yeah that's true sadly. But the next 2 batches should ship within a month of each other (November and Decmber)
yeah i think if there's no crazy boost in sales then december/jan batch will be instock 80he which will be nice at least there
ppl complaining abt waiting
nothing, just talking about how cool and awesome hatsune miku is
I don't know man
Thats the question we all are seeking brrr
good day good day
Keyboard will come, not to worry 
Shipping more than 20k units in such short period of time isn't exactly easy

frankly it's amazing that Igor is the only person sending deliveries but he does so at a rate of 2k per day
Calslock and Raquel for scale
Where did u get those 
oh that's a pricy one. That base looks like a nendoroid instead of just a cheapie figure
i preordered it in late 2023 and got it in may 2024
if anyone is interested, i took my order off hold on Tuesday midday, (module etc not prebuilt) and its due for delivery today in the UK. That's pretty quick... i guess everyone in the uk should have their orders by now unless they've put them on hold.
nyan
Hello lovely wooting folks is it normal for keycaps to wobble alot?
Keycaps don't wobble. Switch stems do. 
so is normal?
I guess that depends on how you define "a lot"
Depends on what exactly you mean by "a lot". Could you share a video if possible?
I mean like so much so with 1 actuation my keys feels like 0.5
like some of my keys doest wobble much at all is diffrent
How to cancel my order that has been put on hold
You put it on hold, and you use the hub to contact us to ask to cancel it
Then we help you with that.
@buoyant solstice in wootility is quick settings and actuation points same settings?

Use the hub. The one you were already on to hold the order.
There's a contact form.
Yes
Click "Contact us"
Use the „Contact Us“ Button on the website. You will get a confirmation email
80HE sounds so much better than my old kb, I wasn't a fan of the high pitch
Order update
…. Sadly not yet ready 😆
Got mine yesterday
congratulations
oh so some people are receiving them while other seems not getting it until 2025
even when they preordered earlier
What's your batch?
Not true.

It's not true but just getting it delayed every time I check, I supose I'm in EU-Kampioen batch
wait i'm confused, are you not in champion anymore?
I don't know how to check my batch since I can't see nothing on my order view regarding the batch
What DO you see
okay so you're still in champion batch
The REST of that white box 😄
did you order a white zinc or raw zinc?
Raw zinc yeah
then that's why. Raw zinc had a polishing issue with initial batch and they air mailed a new batch over this week
so raw zinc is on pause until that batch is cleared and in warehouse (which should be soon sometime)
There will be an update sometime this week
yep, I assume this will be covered when wooting does their announcement talking about white zinc stuff at some point this week
oh interesting, I see a new section on the hub now that shows shipping method too
order page shows shipping method now below address
was not dpd an option?
not for everyone at start. They started adding more dpd for more countries only recent months
because i remember i wanted it over dpd now im on dhl
For example founders batch orders to korea didn't have dpd as an option during campaign, but now they do
Also remember you need to confirm your address otherwise it wont progress
i could order over dpd and i def went for dpd now its on dhl
it would list dpd as a shipping option at checkout if it were available to you
not all locations have it
^ yeah if you have dpd then you have dpd
folks will have different options based on when they ordered and to where they ordered to
is it changable because im pretty sure i went for dpd because all others are just problematic for me
what do you mean? Do you not have dpd now?
dpd is a carrier
ddp is the tax paid at checkout thing
ahhh
no it says dhl for some reason😂
okay i see the mix up now lol
i was thinking you were talking about duty paid delivery lol
i'm so glad I live in a city where courier type doesn't matter and all of them will delivery to your door
no i mean dpd as the parcel carrier im sorry for the mixup
lol yea it’s so similar
dpd is the only one that brings it to my door everyone else is just shit
Well for me DHL was the only option so there probably will not be any confusion for me
in korea every apartment building has cameras and mail theft isn't much of a thing so dhl/fed ex/ups doesn't matter at all
they all work equally good here
i think it’d be easier to cancel and reorder to select the correct carrier, but feel free to clarify by reaching out to customer support
Get in touch with Wooting. Order related questions, feedback, press or business proposals.
dhl, fedex and gls always at a parcel store ups is overall the biggest shit here i swear if i was in the austrian government i would forbid ups to deliver in austria😂😂
i’m fine with any carrier here as well. though in terms of speed can’t beat dhl
i had to drive to the main parcel center to get my phone because it came with ups and they did not want to deliver to my home so i had to drive almost 2hrs in one way to get my phone
yeah dhl is actually crazy fast in asia. I know EU guys seem to not like dhl, but in asia I order tea from singapore and it arrives the next day sometimes
its not dhl here thats the problems its the drivers in my area that dont even wanna try to deliver it to me when they see im in the 3rd floor even when i tell them they can just ring at my door and i‘ll come down and get it
for example i ordered a keyboard from taiwan with dhl,
took 3 days to norway which is super nice
thats why im going dpd because our dpd driver is the same and he always brings it the day its said to come to me, i once ordered wheels for my car and that holy man still delivered them at 8pm because of some fuck up and carried them to my door
feel free to ask customer support,
i suggest placing the order on hold in the hub also
i mean i still got time for mine because i am in brug thats not a problem
ah cool
my guy its singapore, we can drive to anywhere within 1hr
i'm in korea.
slightly longer drive
fk.
lol
the ghost case for the 80he is limited?
no
Not in the traditional sense at least - We may choose to retire a case option down the road in favour of other, new ones. But we'll give people a heads up, so they can buy the ones they want before they are retired.
delays happen, warehouse guys can't work like robots, just go chill a bit 😄
at least it shows you the progress instead of keeping you in the dark
has anyone had trouble removing the Lekker v2s at all from the PCBA
I haven't tried
They're definitely tougher to pull out than V1s. But I wouldn't say they're frustratingly difficult to pull.
But stronk "I've done this before" bias
i'd agree with that, i used another puller personally
Its extremely frustrating on a PC plate with the PCR ABS puller, with a metal one its fine
Good to know
its difficult even with metal but its more manageable
I haven't managed to break a püller personally yet.
same mine is still good
wuque switch puller the goat
my puller is fine, but its just hard to pull out
I actually really like the L60 v2s, I might swap my UwU switches for the L45 v2s tho
aha i did that, made my uwu sound a bit better
I applied to lift the suspension, why hasn't anyone replied to me
Because it is not a live chat, and responses can take several days 🙂
Also please don't reply to random conversations. Just ask normally 😄
Will the white and raw back on track these two days?
ok
we don't know, wait for the update
Anyone else's shipping dates keep getting pushed back by a couple days?
that's normal. Will continue to happen until your order is shipped
copypasta needed
Before shipped, the ETA just a current_date + courier eta
have you confirmed your shipping address?
They give you some time to confirm it, but after a few days without confirmation they just assume it is correct and ship it, and that deadline for batch 1 has already passed iirc
ah fair enough, i had mine on hold took it off and as soon as i confirmed my shipping address it shipped the same day. guess it depends on contents etc.
adding this, DHL in Germany is perfect
atleast for me
would not say it is perfect for me in germany
Hello Folks, i have a quick question. Is the Wooting detachable USB-C cable available in the shop is a mandatory items ? Why it cost 55€ for an USB cable, and what is the difference with the cable provided when you buy the keyboard ? Does improve in any way the wooting keyboard capabilities ?
but internationally they are prob the best for me
it's not mandatory
just aesthetics
Optional. You get a regular cable with every keyboard.
any USB cable will work as long as it is compliant to USB specifications
yes
yes
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Any ideas, not a pleasant start
check against multiple surfaces
then contact support
Check if the rubber feet are inserted correctly
that sounds awful
I can feel the grease on switch on both sides
But it is still…
now we ball with the new wootility and hope for the best lol
Just tell me what can I do now
did you use grease on the wires?
yes
then last thing left is balance the wires if you didn't do that
Feet are in correctly, has to be the case
checked the case with multiple surface alr?
like floors/tables and stuff
Yes
contact support with these pics/vids
they will sort it out and send a replacement if needed
that's very odd then. I've never had a stab still rattle after balancing and relubing
I think it’s something to do with keycaps
Which I haven’t checked though
I think that’s the problem
My space keycap is not balanced
i feel like slightly bent space bar shouldn't be a factor unless the actual stem is loose
a large amount of pbt keycaps, especially in the cheaper categories, have a slightly warped space bar but it shouldn't cause any rattle
anyone know how to fix sticky spacebar it stucks when i bottom it out
stab might have moved or become dislodged by accident somehow during the shipping. Just have to open up the keyboard and reseat it probably
But I think it caused mine
is the bar loose?
because just being bent shouldn't matter there generally
No but I think the unbalanced keycap make the rattle
The terrible sound comes from right hand side which the keycap not balanced
i've never seen a bent spacebar cause rattle like that before personally
and that includes the old epbt keycap sets i have with extremely warped space bars
swap in another space bar from your old keyboard and check
Mine is the same, but in the right side.
Did you get it sorted? Or Wooting support?
yes but none of that is caused by a keycap unless the keycap stem is loose
i don't know, if you don't want to try out another space bar then it's going to be impossible for us to diagnose the problem
That type of rattle is often from something not quite right with the lube or balancing, as you can see in this video before/after lubing: https://youtu.be/njD64DV5iHw?si=Rm7po1PNXKwi_WED&t=150
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I can tell the problem is from keycap because that wired sound comes from upper rather instead of insert
Yes I have, do you get any confirmation that it was successfull tho?
i didnt from memory, mine went to waiting to pack after tho i think, or very shortly after
you will on the website
not a direct confirmation
but it will look different in 2 areas
I have a good feeling about today. The raw zinc cases might be approaching
is the stabilisers suppose to have give and move a little?
yeah all stabs will have some give to a certain amount (otherwise keys would feel weird)
Im crying
it happened
At last!
it's almost like all of the daily worrying and emails wasn't needed. Now what did we learn from this
now surely it wouldnt get stuck in customs 
stay calm ❤️
yeah hopefull not
yes indeed. stay calm. be based. be like igor.
Approaching…to the warehouse or to your door?
and angus
Wow the white zinc are back on track
Hahah im happy now
tho if angus is in the us, igor in eu, whos in the HK warehouse
now its matter of few days now
Do we know something about our plane full of raw zinc cases?
Winnie the pool
I have it on good authority that Igor is personally flying those raw zinc cases in himself. He has a pilots license that he acquired over the years that he studied for medical school as a side hussle
yeah what about it?
needs updating
I saw in youtube
that's deadzone counting starting actuation btw
and the chinese companies cheese that chart by starting at 0.05 setting that isn't usable lol
It’s a graphics showing statistics. Not sure if it’s true?
A Japanese who receive the 80 HE
listen to the whole thing with subtitles on, he explains why deadzone is a cheesy metric and he measures it but it's not a real reflection of performance in game
in the case of this particular chart for example you know wooting is actually a deadzone closer to 0.1
yeah the spacebar still sticks a bit when bottoming out
It’s just like Apple presentation and their graphs
Thanks
the chinese just love to cheese the deadzone metric because they can do 0.05 + no deadzone and look amazing but reality is all the actual good boards use about 0.1 deadzone after setting it up to be stable
for some reason i dont seem to be able to rebind any of my keys anymore
press the button
to unsync
Igor is truly an inspiration for all
i would like them synced across all of my profiles and it was working fine just a minute ago but now when i drag a key where i want it nothing happens
in wootings case they especially love to show wooting vs them because wooting is 0.1 start + 0.1 deadzone for stability, so instead of saying 0.1 deadzone they say 0.2 deadzone to make it look even bigger
Well, if people still choose to present it as a datapoint to showcase in their videos. It has a marketing value
So the dead zone of wooting 80HE is 0.1 ?
roughly yeah, it jumps around a bit based on firmware and such as wooting makes adjustments for stability
thanks all
the funniest part is how the chinese boards literally have a separate deadzone setting for you to add it back in
because they know removing it with no stability control is dumb
had a reply from wooting within a few days, he send me a video link, but it was for the 60he, in that he wanted me to loosen some screw, but im not sure if that will work on the 80he. "It looks like the one of the case screws may have been overtighened slightly, causing the soft plastic case to bend ever so slightly. You can try tweaking these slightly by using a Philips head PH1 screwdriver and loosening/tightnening the left/rightmost screw to balance it out."
ngl i care more about deadzone affecting my rgb than my actual game
Develop a advance mode wootility that can adjust Deadzone will be nice
they are still working on optimizing both tachyon and deadzones - but obviously not at the cost of stability
it might not be it 100%
but it is one of the common reasons
you don't actually need it since wooting already sets the deadzone as low as they can without accidental stability issues
unless you wanted even more deadzone than needed for whatever reason
When ur order goes from ready to pack to queued for fulfilment 
i read that wrong
how did that happen
White zinc happened 
black zinc superiority shines again
Can anyone explain to me what a deadzone is on a keyboard?
One of the most important question you need to ask yourself before making a purchase is if you´re buying the product for the best specification on paper or the real world performance?
Was worried it might get delivered when im away but worries solved 💀
Just how sensitive it should be in a nutshell. Set it too high, and you have to push more for the sensor to go "aha, actual input", too low and it might randomly activate when nothing is pushing, because of the natural magnetic fields of the planet.
A lot of those keyboards claiming super, super low, no deadzone require constant recalibration to stay accurate. Otherwise they start to go slightly nuts.
so what the difference between deadzone and actuation point
or is deadzone something, you would normally call hysteresis?
Should the sensor detect it?
Versus "should it do something about it, because the user set actuation to that point"
the fact that people are asking questions and are so confused by it, it´s because some one is making a point about it
That the lower the number = better
very few people really care about Quality in this day and age
thats how marketing works tho
preclarifying this with text or disclamers rarely works
bottom out deadzone is different from actuation. In this instance it just means that bottom part of your keyboard switch press will not register. For most good HE keyboards they use a small deadzone at the bottom to make sure things like your table wobbling, gasket movement, mouse shake etc don't accidentally trigger your keyboard press at super sensitive settings like 0.1 actuation
a video might work better 👀
Companies do the marketing.. youtubers ( reviewers should do their work and debunk marketing bullshit.)
so basicaly hysteresis.
imagine if you push down the key and you move your mouse to shoot an enemy and your keyboard gasket moves slightly and it thinks you lifted off and released the key - that's what they want to avoid by having a small deadzone at the bottom
tried another computer, i just cant rebind keys for some reason. does anyone know a solution?
youtubers who dont tend to be more popular
attention span is a thing
it's artificially and purposely put in though and not the effect of anything else here
the sensor itself can measure about 0.02mm increments
this is why hipyo is popular
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Yes u can
He just selling those China companies keyboard now
He is popular because he is also an artist / singer
yes that is what hysteresis normally is. You artifically do not trigger the other event/release the trigger until you are way into the direction of that. Image a bucket is is "empty" with < 1l. As so as that empty registers being empty you keep the "empty" state until the bucket is at 2l or mre.
he a what now?
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Spotify...
Yes send email
From wooting hub contact us button
i dont use spotify
drakon is a hipster. he only uses apple music
no apples pls 
Isnt apple music better than spotify
It has arrived
RAW HE based
Youtube music?
I use modded Spotify and it's pretty fun
@midnight iron I just want to ask ,if my setting is 0.1MM ,it should trigger on 0.2 mm ,because there is 0.1MM ,right?
Oh youtube premium 
yeah roughly speaking that's correct
Mines the zinc case
youtube music is Google's answer to the question "how can make Google Music suck"
🤨 is it that bad
my order just went from ready for packing back to queued for fulfilment

same here. still waiting for a reply
white case? if yes they mentioned something on hold because of the imho not existing scratch issue..
🤝
I'm jealous of those who received 80he delivery. It's November for me. 😭
actually i was curious and looked on ebay if the scalpers where susccesfull and one sold for 310€ not that muchz difrence to the buy price
Google Music was a good service with a good app. It got replace by an inferior YouTube Music service and app. Google Music also had the feature to allow uploading your own music similar to was APple has, Youtube Music no longer has that.
doesnt spotify have uploading your own music
Uploading? No. Not unless you're an artist.
But it will let you play local files.
you can make your own playlists but i recently noticed even on public not all can see them
oh that is what i meant
wanted to share it from pc to car.. didn't work since car has a other account..
Can't move the local files to another device though.
this kb is sick
How much fingers
10?
Nice
I got 70-80 wpm one..two finger 
You got fast fingers 
Dms open


am i the only one thinking words per m,inut is one of those stupid american like messurements like foot? i mean '"i am very fast " or "mississippi is a compulsory insurance state" words are so difrent for a goiod messurement
No
You can take a typing test that averages out characters to convert to an “actual” wpm.
but there isn’t a standard for how many letters in a word qualify for this
Yeah, that’s how a lot of tests work. They’re only useful to compare to the same test.
Ara ara ara ara ara...
Are the constant date delays to be expected or is there potentially something wrong with my order
Are you in hk batch?
Raw or white zinc?
Can’t seem to check batch on the official site on my phone but I assume the earliest EU batch for raw zinc
Oh I see thank you!
I cant wait for everyone that ordered raw zinc to get theirs
I want to see how good it looks and if i want to maybe pick that one up later on
Last time with my setup which one of these wooting 80he would fit the best
And whats the raw zinc everyone talking about?
You are not alone, I'm suffering with you 
only white would fit
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Unboxing video of the Wooting 80HE Zinc Alloy RAW case. The case is available to purchase separate, but can also be combined with the 80HE module. It isn't available as a pre-assembled kit.
This video shows all the items you will get out of the box.
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Anyone elses opinion?
You‘ve asked this question more than i can count
Pick your 2 favorite choices and flip a coin
If the outcome makes you feel disappointed go for the other one
Boom solved

What if I feel disappointed both ways?
You wont know :)
I've seen this mans setup more than I have my own
Been posted so much one of the images corrupted
Just received my Wooting 80HE PCR ABS Ghost (ANSI) and swapped out the default black keycaps for the Just White (US-ANSI / UK-ISO). But... I noticed the lettering is different for the key left of 1 namely ~ ` shown on Just White and reverse order of symbols is printed on black keycap so the incorrect character is showing on my screen when typing.
Update: answered here #🌟│wooting80he message Thank you @buoyant solstice for your honest answer. I can live with this now in peace ;-p
Ref: You don't. It is a visual mistake on our end during the design of the keycaps.
We accidentally switched around the two symbols on the UK kit.
So the base layer key shows as the "while holding shift" one.
noticed that Wootility has the option for functions of power down and sleep but not screen lock
WIN+L
thats 2 keys when I could have 1 
Don't you have to press FN for it?
also I have an F key going unused and have no other ideas
I bind it the other way round
Oh okay makes sense, you can use WIN+L for now and maybe ask wooting idk
FN to get to actual F1 etc
you can have one
use dks


But i need to know... im ready to buy lol
Hope you like it :)
Do the coinflip trick
single monitor
Gonna do whatever you guys say, which keyboard :)
nah fam
Its not 200 more like 40 if you dont end up liking the case
what happens if you don't like what someone picks tho
thats extra annoying
No they case is good but the KEYCAPS
asking us is basically like coinflipping because our preferences are probably different from yours haha
Flip a coin between 2 choices and if you dont like that outcome take the other
^^
No because what most people say ill buy
Really that simple
Lol
but you're buying keyboard for yourself not for us
🤦♂️
just pick what you like
no really it is just this
I will get what most people say because i dont really like either of the keycaps and i have no money to customise the keyboard
why would you buy keycaps you don't like
So whatever you guys think looks better i will get
Not rawdoging switches
Re-read what i said
re read what he said
if you don't like either keycaps why not buy a set you actually do like
"and i have no money to customise the keyboard"
then buy the one you hate less
Buy pbtfans xray and then get whatever case you like
The caps will look good with anything
Except me, because theyll be gone if in my presence
"And i have no money to customise the keyboard"
are you ordering a module or prebuilt?
if it's a module then just get no keycaps there are a lot of cheap keycap options
I couldnt find a CHEAP keycap option for wooting 80he
That i would like
where did you look?
any thoughts, is this a misprint or QA issue?
Anywhere
just get frost case and white caps
just to replace it with something you like later
isn't that more money cos ur buying 2 sets
ye atp just get the whites
aliexpress has many
this gives a reason to choose ABS instead of Zinc
I'm saving every 80he I see with rgb on tbh
no ragrets
I really want a yt vid on just the rgb effects tbh
I just want the keeb 
I really enjoy that you can set the key lighting to pass through into the LED bar
80HE is a dream to type on.... especially with RAWs 
batch 2?
I didnt ordered one atm
I switched from a logitech g keyboard and the difference is night and day @sullen sand
The background service is gonna be hype, i can feel it 
Wooting is somehow going to make it have 0.00000001% cpu usage
you are now legally obligated to get one 
I'm using a leaven K620 with blue switches.....
@worldly pebble i like them small aswell
Does your 80he dispense estrogen if you input the right key combination
What
ayo?
this keyboards a pain tho most of the switches are dying on me and I've never taken em out
Its hard without money LMAO
Wait until christmas, get money from others, 80he could be in stock. Profit????
I have a job its just the end of the month lmao
what is deadzoning?
Anyone found a good white external numpad to go with the white zinc alloy 80he?
uh just connected my wooting, why does only my space bar have rgb?
Yo guys help me out.. !!
When i click on "track your order with Fedex"
It redireceted me to UPS website..
:3 if you put some angle you can store your e safely underneath
Either FedEx passed it along, or the warehouse changed their minds during packing about which courier to use.
so now its UPS ?
Seems like - You're more than welcome to reach out to support for clarification.
Make a thread in #1019755933959733258
Hello, wanted to ask if there are any 8k pulling rate cables yet? One I have now can only do 1k
No such thing as a 1k or 8k cable.
There's shitty cables that don't meet specifications for USB, and there are ones that do. Longer cables will inherently have more trouble keeping a good and stable signal - keep it below 2m to be safe(r)
Curious to see if my lethalgaminggear coiled cable holds up to the 80he.
Should know in a couple weeks when it gets here
why would it say on the store page it’s only capable of 1k if it can really do any
Ducky premicord page to be precise
You'd have to ask Ducky.
stability and power delivery, longer and/or thinner cables will be less likely to be able to reliably transfer enough power/data to run at 8k properly
yo mansen will there any 3rd party cases in the future for the wooting 80he?
Ah ok then I’m guessing the Wooting cable is powerful enough?
Give it some time and then for sure.
icl the case for it is mid
yeah
But... you are ducky....

Ok thanks I’ll get one, I bought a 80he build yourself version and wanted to make sure to get the most out of it
Different duck. Cousin twice removed.
wouldnt that come with the standard 80he cable out of the box?
what on earth did he do to be removed twice
It comes even if you buy the build yourself version?
i would imagine so, need someone to confirm that tho, but itd be a little silly if it didnt imo
Can you confirm mansen?
The cases come with a cable
Yup
So if you bought a case, you get a cable
I was joking x)
Thank you for the clarification mansen
Easiest way for us to ensure the cable colour matches the case you buy.
is the cable included with the module or do i have to include it here?
The detachable coiled cable is special and separate.
You already get a cable with the keyboard.
With the module?
i no wanna read
What’s special about it
With the case you purchase together with your module.
It's coiled.
thanks.
And thanks for confirming
Why do we sell a special cable? Two reasons.
- Aesthetics and colour options.
- See video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE
If you are experiencing your keyboard pressing random keys and opening programs, then you came to the right video. The issue is usually caused by an instable amount of voltage entering the board. Follow along to see what you can do about it.
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is this all i need for the keyboard so when i build it i would have a "funcioning" keyboard?
yes
yes
ty.
You'll also need a PH1 screwdriver of course. But we don't sell that.
Will watch 
@buoyant solstice can you help me becouse i cant track my order after 12 days and now do i need to wait on email respond or do something?
it can be found in all houses lol.
is there a known issue section ? i need to re plug my keyboard from time to time because it just freezes and has no reaction even the leds are frozen
did u try and do a full restore?
i havent changed anything at all just got it and updated it with the wotility v5 web thingy
still worth a try ?
That's optimistic.
ill go for it thanks in advance
Cannot help with specific orders here, only via email. 🙂
ok thanks
Wooting 80HE from <@&1217486443190947902> batch just arrived - I live in UK. Thanks wooting and good luck to all those wwho are receiveing theirs soon too.
Oh shoot, my order also got back to "Queued for fullfillment"... Looks like Igor timetravling...
What was your order? Raw zinc?
White + RAW - Zinc ofc.
Then that must be why
I thought I was in the clear... 
No one escapes Igor.
Mansen do you know something about the raw cases?
If it's about logistics, then it is not my department. I usually only know what Y'all know via #📦│batch_updates
You are not helping with the suffering Sno!
mark is the one you want to ask if he randomly pops up (don't ping him)
Well, I consider it moving... Will try my luck on the 30th Anni PS5 pro then.
Don't want to ping him at all.
When Mark has news it'll be in #📦│batch_updates as usual.
Ok
I’m going for the controller personally 
Thoes sold out like hotcakes this morning
for what
🥵
Luckily hasnt launched in the US yet, we got an hour here before those go live 


you better be ready, it took around 6min in Sweden.
fml
I hope you will pray for my success 
Looks ugly.
and go grab wallhack miku

WISH!

you wont lmao
good things come to those who wait
'Expect that it will take all of next week for the full batch to get submitted, picked, packed, and shipped.'
is not putting a few extra keys into a set worth having a ISO layout and ANSI layout option?
I am crossing my fingers and toes + sending a prayer from my church for ya
i have a good feeling about tomorrow
well why would they since they only care abt own japan
wow date changed yay
no more September
sooner?
I see your jealousy is sipping out
later for EU kamp

not just jeal lmao
I am saying that instead of putting 4-5 extra keys into the ANSI keycaps to also have the ISO layout option, they seem to have 2 SKUs instead that differ only by 4-5 keys.
my pain jealousy etc pouring out everytime when I see zinc shipped
Is that Canada
raw case delayed
no
I wonder how many of those 23k founders were raw zinc orders
north kr gg
Who is that
EU is a small market, the majority of stock always get allocated to the major markets first. Nothing new.
Am I the only that does not know when roughly the raw cases are being shipped?
Initially it was a week for the whole shipment, now I don't have a clue
delayed
was there anything announced?
search calder's msg
it's a little bit abstract right now, need updates regarding the situation honestly. Calder said last week this week will be arriving by air freight to the warehouse
My hopes are some updates tomorrow regarding raw zinc orders
Alright, can't find the raw update message here
north korean student, studied in china and his roommate reported him for noises
kim saw that and he was not happy
Thanks mate! So Raw cases did not arrive on the EU warehouse is that it?
Correct
This feels misleading
Was it ever mentioned that the RAW cases were not already on the Warehouse with the other options?
I really hope so, right now you have to search discord to get a vague answer. Would be nice with an announcement somewhere more official, or at least easier to find imo
I got the impression that everything got shipped and they were sorting everything out
That Calder message should be pinned imo
Yep, having worked in Software Development, I know how users hate it when the delivery date keeps sliding undefinetly, and info is not clearly stated.
This is how I'm starting to feel, up until now I got excited because the impression I got was that the Raw Cases would be starting to be delivered soon, now getting the info they are not even on the warehouse "hitted hard".
Is there any official update where we Raw users can feel more "cared about"?
,mb
i think they were at the warehouse maybe
Nah, it was something about scratches from polishing or something, so they got send back
calder said on thursday or friday the cases were ready to ship then they found some issues last minute
here was the livestream part about the raw case: https://www.youtube.com/live/fGrcfyiz9Gw?si=s2U-ts9iZg4-0ftf&t=1785
80he shows up as disconnected after updating firmware twice in a row now, any fixes?
if you remove the usb cable and plug it in again, does that help?
seems like they were ready to ship at warehouse but then he looked through qc reports and saw some things that didn't meet his standard and halted it to get new ones sent over from factory
As a parent of two it is quite hard to watch all the 1hr40min videos to know about the raw, thanks for going out of your way to give me the exact moment. Why not have here a pinned message that gets updated with the critical info so everyone can be updated with asking the same thing over and over again 😄
yeah that fixes it, but it didn't do this on the previous firmware updates
I've had this happen too, we're investigating internally. It's definitely not related to today's update though.
and yeah it's very annoying
Got it, thank you!
u need to remove the device and then pair it again
it should fix it
If only we didn't get our kids we would have more time to check on our keyboard status 
Yeah it does, hopefully it stops happening
they dont care about us bro
Ahauihauihauih, there is no return policy (legal at least) for the kids 😄
I think they would release only B/W next time
I love my two rascals @daring berry , so I need to rely on the help of amazing members like @midnight iron
they have community manager / moderator / wooting team popping up everytime
and no one says anything at #📦│batch_updates
why bother to make a channel then?
i must say, batch updates were really cool
I think they said in the livestream they would have an update this week
those monthly ones with batch health
they care to pin some AI image at this #🌟│wooting80he and not pin actual update
just pinthis
ok thats a reach ngl
if they have no update then what do you want?
any big updates will be posted in #📦│batch_updates
you cant pin all actual updates
end of the week, its Thursday
only the ones that matter a lot
1 week already passed
There is not.
I think u dont understand this tbh
Can't wait for the first time my toddler throws the 80he on the ground! Being a parent and tech guy is a rush, love them like nothing else in the world still 
For what purpose?
he means his currency
his currency exchange rate changed
I know exactly what they're referring to, yes
is it that big of a difference?
Yeah ..
Did his currency drop since his order or something?
7% is a lot, its basically NYC tax
increased
his buying power increased I'm guessing
that's a wild swing lol
ya
We charge in Euros, we refund in Euros.
That often means currency conversion fees from your bank.
So I wouldn't expect those 6-7% to remain that once processed by your bank. Placing a new order would mean your keyboard would deliver later with all likelihood (You'd have to place the same order in the checkout and compare)
Also keep in mind that we will charge cancellation fees of 10% for repeat cancellations.
damn I thought I found a loophool to leverage currency exchange
That is incorrect. This is also my first cancellations.
You do not charge in euros.
You charged me in our local currency, I wish you could charge me in euros if that is possible I will send you my order number.
What is your local currency?
This is why I have a standing motorized desk mate. Whenever I leave the room I raise the desk to a hight the younger one (2.5 years) cannot reach!
Get the zink case.. They can't lift it
big 🧠
jesus
if they do lift it the kid will be jacked though
big swings
imagine the muscles on the kid who lifts a zinc case daily
I don't see how we would charge in Israelic Shekels, but I can look into it.
What's your order number.
damn thats nuts
EUxxx
Do I need to put this back in?
yes
Yes - It's what lets the lightbar light up.
the side with bits on top
With the nobs showing down?



I hate it
boy?
