🌟│wooting80he

[lime falcon]

??

tachyon exists to decrease latency to 1ms, 80he has 0.125ms latency

[violet garnet]

obviously its to increase latency back to 1ms

[umbral locust]

Nohcyat mode

[valid comet]

tachyon was needed only for 60HE. 80HE doeant need it, due to how fast the MCU is

you could just disable RGB effects and yeah thats basically as close as you coukd get to "tachyon" behavior, and some other performance optimizers

[tropic quest]

i’d still imagine rgb effects would add some load on the mcu, making it stray from advertised .125ms without disabling them

[glad fable]

damn..hope the 60he gets an upgrade too in the near future

[lime falcon]

what upgrade? 8khz?

[glad fable]

Yeah pretty much, just a more powerful mcu

but somehow smaller

[lime falcon]

not near future

but maybe

[valid comet]

rgb effects always do add some level of work

you could just turn it off if it bothers you

[umbral locust]

Instead of trying to change 0.0001ms on your keebs yall should just practice your games lmao

[lime falcon]

yea yall talk like 1ms is unplayable smh

[valid comet]

true its already fast enough (8k)

[valid comet]

because it is

[lime falcon]

1k is fast enough

8k is overkill to boost your placebo

[umbral locust]

It's also better to scrutinize the overall setup instead of one component. It isn't about making your KB faster, what about your screen latency, internet, mouse etc.

[tropic quest]

not really familiar with MCUs but tachyon mode would still help with marketing .125ms latency. if .125 + rgb load is a bit higher and they don’t really offer a straightforward way to reach advertised speeds that’s not too great of a position to be in ig. i’m splitting hairs though lol

[umbral locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj-wZ_KGcsg

[umbral locust]

8K polling is already overhyped just for marketing

and polling scanning and latency are all different things

[tropic quest]

ye i’m aware

[lime falcon]

if it was needed they would add tachyon on 80he too

[tropic quest]

is it confirmed it is/isn’t there

[verbal solar]

hey guys, deciding on weather getting 60he or 80he, the size for the 60 is way better for my setup over the 80, is there any reason to go for the 80 instead of the extra keys?

[umbral locust]

Imo, go for the layout you like.

Splitting hairs as far as differences go.

But big ones is 8K polling and gasket mounting.

[lime falcon]

80he will have better sound because of gasket mounting if you care about it

[valid comet]

it is because wooting is gonna be the only one to properly add it because you need 8k scan and 8k polling to achieve stupidly fast speeds from the usb device alone

[jade widget]

It's not confirmed if there is/isn't tachyon as far as I know, they may not even need it with the new mcu it could be beefy enough to do both without issue

[lime falcon]

also it comes with lekker v2 which is not available for 60he yet, but will be

[lime falcon]

i think mansen said that there is no tachyon mode

because its simply useless for 80he

[tropic quest]

hmmm, do we know if tachyon mode does anything other than disable rgb effects and limit brightness

[valid comet]

tachyon is a performance mode toggle that disables effects and other stuff

[lime falcon]

decrease latency from 2ms to 1ms

[lime falcon]

thanks

[umbral locust]

and by default, 80he will have 0.125ms, so why have taychon

[jade widget]

Yeah and it's only needed because the mcu can't handle both but the 80he has an updated mcu

[valid comet]

always good to ask questions :)

[tropic quest]

not much reason, tho if i could get .0001% more performance at the flip of a switch why not

[valid comet]

me literally

[lime falcon]

...

[valid comet]

as long as my system is equally stable and doesnt cobsume too much more power

literally why my 13700K runs at 65W

[verbal solar]

will most likely go for the 60 simply because my setup dosnt really support anything about 70% layout

[jade widget]

It isn't that much bigger compared to the 60

[verbal solar]

idk man, i have a 65% keyboard and it's perfect because my style of keyboard layout kind of digs into my mousepad area, if too big then when i flick i end up hitting my keyboard or digging into me

[lime falcon]

its slightly bigger than 65%

u wont have problem i think

but yeah, if you want 60he just get it

[verbal solar]

picture example

[lime falcon]

wtf?

i think your keyboard is literally the same size as 80he

but how do you play like that

[verbal solar]

idk man 😦

its a curse from the old csgo verticle keyboard days

[lime falcon]

[wind tiger]

Nope

Missing a row on the right and the top, aka ~2cm less both directions

[lime falcon]

I didnt mean f row

[wind tiger]

See that "and"?

[lime falcon]

Thanks for letting me know I didnt see it

[tardy plume]

Is it a joke or do i really need to wait until september ? xD

[umbral locust]

Why would it be a joke.

You are preordering a product that doesn't exist yet.

[tardy plume]

True, but I saw people who said that it will arrive in early June or July

[umbral locust]

They’ve been misinformed.

Wooting has made it clear it will be at least until early august for people to get their hands on em.

[tardy plume]

Good to know that , thanks fenix

[umbral locust]

Np. Fall cant come fast enough 😂😭

[tardy plume]

I have never waited so long for a keyboard xD

Maybe until keyboard arrive is gonna be in uk stock LG 32GS95UE

[tender fiber]

Is anyone else bummed out that the 80he doesn't have the cool "Take Control" loop strap?

I've always thought that was a cool aesthetic for those that enjoy that kind of thing 😎

[umbral locust]

Am convincing my carpenter friend to make me a wooden case for the 80he with a strap

[lime falcon]

I need one!

[keen wraith]

so this is just false ?

[umbral locust]

Not sure how late july is the same as early june and july

[keen wraith]

oh you said at least august

[umbral locust]

In either case, whatever estimate your hub shows is what id trust and not what random people@say.

[keen wraith]

gotcha thanks

[umbral locust]

Yup, thats the expectation the team has set out for the vast majority of orders. A few will be earlier depending on location, order number etc

[proper dew]

is it july yet?

[lime falcon]

yes

[dim sierra]

ure in 2nd batch

first batch estimate for na is late july and for eu its early august

[violet garnet]

Is Australia eu?

[buoyant solstice]

Warehouse? Yes
Eurovision? Yes
Geographically or politically? No.

[red heart]

Dont forget nintendo region lock

[fading apex]

na late july

we love americans

[oblique lichen]

Yea… 😢
Tis a neat aesthetic touch that had a brand awareness to it. If you saw it in a game tourney stream or YouTube clip = knew they were using a wooting.

[hearty flame]

lol

[tardy plume]

xD

[hearty flame]

it isnt clear when ordering at least lmao what is this guy saying

[buoyant solstice]

I've passed it on to the team. Definitely shouldn't say July on the 80HE landing page anymore 😄

The checkout estimate is what goes - and is an estimate, not a guarantee.

[hearty flame]

I mean the estimate is also Mid August when ordering and then says september

idc tbh but it's just a little weird

[buoyant solstice]

At warehouse is not the same as delivered to your door.

[arctic ice]

mine says june idk, might be special excpedited one, thank you wooting

[jolly tangle]

[arctic ice]

https://tenor.com/view/on_god-on-god-god-gif-27645167

[tight cypress]

[verbal solar]

No.

[verbal solar]

That's not what it showed when purchasing

[lunar dragon]

Can the wooting do that too, without making it controller inputs? or what is razer talking about there..

[tight cypress]

Razer also uses controller inputs for that

[verbal solar]

If it can report key deepness state while pressed I don't see why not

But has to have deepness feedback in diff layers

Lvls

[lunar dragon]

Ah, overlooked that. But they promote it there like it just works for any game, but that clearly wouldn't work for games like CS then.

[dim sierra]

i think it does like a half pressed = walk

[fading apex]

pretty sure wooting advertised controller like movement on racing games way before razer

[buoyant solstice]

Like... nearing a decade ago 😛

[verbal solar]

If it can in racing it can in cs go

[fading apex]

can you do the G walk in cod

on a keyboard anyways

[buoyant solstice]

Not necessarily. A racing game doesn't rely on your mouse or keyboard.

Using a (virtual) controller disables mouse and keyboard in a lot of games.

[verbal solar]

But cs can't run so

[fading apex]

because thats controller only movement rn

[lunar dragon]

@fading apex That wasn't the question, you should learn to read properly lad.

[verbal solar]

I mean moviment like controller not actual controller

[buoyant solstice]

What I said still applies.

[upbeat berry]

well it does work in games like cs... just a lot of other games dont work with it well

[verbal solar]

Like in games where u have to press arrow keys twice to run

[lunar dragon]

How would it work with CS, when CS dosen't allow controller controls in comp games etc. ?

[fading apex]

alot of PC games just don't have controller support

[buoyant solstice]

Games like CSGO absolutely has analog movement built into the engine. Try playing them with a controller on a console, and notice how your movement speed relies on how far you push the joystick.

[upbeat berry]

depends on which CS we talk about. CSGO did allow it

CS2 idk

[verbal solar]

I mean I can still walk /\ with any keyboard tho

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. But you're limited to 0 speed or full speed.

[verbal solar]

But cs has no running speed

[upbeat berry]

it does

[lunar dragon]

CSGO allowed it for casual, not for anything else. You would have to have sv_cheats 1 enabled to use a controller.

[verbal solar]

So yeah

[fading apex]

theres game engine velocity

[upbeat berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WNI-f6QDPQ

[buoyant solstice]

Like I said - The engine supports it, and it has it on console.

[verbal solar]

Unless u crouch in cs like Minecraft

[fading apex]

after a few moments you go max velocity which is like 255

[upbeat berry]

and yes people used this in comp until it got fixed

[verbal solar]

In that case it would have to have a keyboard to controller adapter x.x

[lunar dragon]

It wouldn't be allowed in comp or in tournaments.

[buoyant solstice]

... no

[verbal solar]

Unless they support it to pc later

[lunar dragon]

So... yea, but aight.

[fading apex]

if you peek corners you did not want your movement to be slow

[buoyant solstice]

You're mixing up things completely here, Mr. King.

There's a difference between "the game supports it" and "it makes sense to use it"

[verbal solar]

I mean it like how u can play keyboard games with controllers

[verbal solar]

Those aren't the same

[upbeat berry]

idk how youd detect it in comp as controller support in csgo isnt hidden behind flags just needs you to load the controller config

[buoyant solstice]

That... that is the point

[verbal solar]

I mean they have nothing to do with another in this talk

[buoyant solstice]

Jesus wept...

[upbeat berry]

https://github.com/ptondereau/csgo-config/blob/master/controller.360.cfg is the file shipped with csgo and also what you load to enable 360 controller support.

[verbal solar]

Like u can still do it anyways, depends how hard and limited u are to make it true

[lunar dragon]

@upbeat berry Lad... they don't allow controller to be used in comp or tournaments, it's not a secret or anything.. yes, the game has the input in the engine, but they don't allow it for serious play.
Same for CSS and CS2.

So if it's just controller input, you wouldn't be able to use it for competitive play in a game like CS.

[upbeat berry]

i mean i personally tried using it in comp so /shrug

[fading apex]

controller in tac fps just feel weird

without aim assist

[buoyant solstice]

This is what having analog allows for - provided the game either supports simultanous controller and mouse inputs. Or you can control the game using only controller inputs.

And while sneaking in CSGO using this was patched rather fast, it was a genuine competitive advantage (aka. fast silent walking)

Really discord? Can't render webp all of a sudden? 😛

[lunar dragon]

and as far as I can see, CS2 doesn't even have controller support. In any case. Though it does work on steamdeck, so that is weird.

[buoyant solstice]

It does.

[upbeat berry]

i mean it was useless in csgo as well once this 1 specific bug got patched

[lunar dragon]

The post is from october 2023, so I guess they could have added it since.

[fading apex]

steam does kinda just make controllers do keyboard keys

[upbeat berry]

depends on how you setup steam input

[fading apex]

steam deck is automatically keyboard keys on non xbox supported games

[upbeat berry]

it also just makes any controller an xbox controller

if you want it to

[fading apex]

or should i say xinput

if the game doesn't support xinput steam automatically does keyboard keys

[plain atlas]

It's funny cause it uses keyboard keys for Split Second but the analog triggers still work for gas and brake

[valid comet]

Morning from canada everyone

[pseudo parrot]

Afternoon

[oblique veldt]

turn of keyboard keys that are programmed under analog its a setting

[small rune]

Any update video today?

[desert quest]

Yes #👀│youtube_updates

[dense ridge]

yes today will be a video, i am also curios about the live stream 🙂 its friday

[buoyant solstice]

Every OTHER week.

[dense ridge]

ohhh

i see 🙂 then only video

[errant chasm]

[jolly tangle]

[loud pier]

New VIDEO BOIS

it's out just now

[loud pier]

Zinc Alloy White Mwah

[foggy quiver]

The ghost and black zinc look so cool im glad i got both

Interested to see what will be different in the darker version of the led bar

[loud pier]

I'm sucker for white

[foggy quiver]

The white ofc is also very clean looking

[loud pier]

So I only really had one option. I think i might go plastic if it had white version

oh well, i really really dont mind though, i will use it for long time

don't use that latex for other reason

[lunar dragon]

the type test of the zinc alloy though, seems very loud

[shell monolith]

Cause it had echos

[dusky tiger]

mmmm I like that sound

[loud pier]

Thock

[dusky tiger]

Zinc sounds almost exactly like Boog75; the other choice I had in mind... And sound was really the only thing I liked in it above wooting

[lunar dragon]

nah, it's sounds too loud compared to the PCR version.

[idle depot]

Magnesium mouse plus raw zinc case would go so hard

[midnight iron]

That raw is looking really nice actually

[tight cliff]

The Raw and white look nice

[pseudo parrot]

white zinc is beautiful, very satisfied

[tight cliff]

Should start searching for some nice grey keycaps or accent keycaps for the Raw

[solid meteor]

this keyboard is so hyped I am worried I will be disappointed lmao

[desert quest]

The black zinc finish is crazy

[clear grove]

4 months is quite a lot 😭

[clever sun]

Hello, I hope you're doing fine.
I have a question... I have ordered the Wooting 80HE during the founders campain.
But I have made a mistake with my order I would like the case to be white... Not black
Could you please help me or direct me to someone who can ?

[clear grove]

You should email support team

[buoyant solstice]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail]

[jolly tangle]

[solid meteor]

only learned about that recently (didn't know about wooting or much about keyboards in general until I learned about that from a friend). hence I chose to support them!

oh he doesn't have one, but he told me I should get it 😅 since I needed one

watched a bunch of YT videos and decided to go for it

[clear grove]

if your friend heard you saying that he'd probably never let you touch it again LMAO

[solid meteor]

he himself has an apex 9 tkl... not even a pro! but damn do I like those media controls on the steelseries.

[clear grove]

my current keyboard isnt even that bad, but i'm a little sold on the whole actuation control because my keyboard is currently way too sensitive

I currently use the Corsair K70 TKL, I think it's sensitive because of the linear switches, not sure though

[dry wing]

🫃he can touch it how often he wants, it brings me pleasure to make my friends happy

[clear grove]

sharing is caring

[solid meteor]

I have currently one that my friend loaned me and he wants it back (to use it at work), so it is time to get my own mechanical keyboard 😅

[clear grove]

oh wow that's really nice

[real token]

Theres a youtube update btw

[clear grove]

yeah i saw it! pretty cool stuff, i love the white case it looks amazing

also this has probably been asked many times before but I was just wondering, is the l45 and l60 switches that different?

why did they decide to make the 80he pre installed with the l60 instead of the 45 which is reviewed much better anyways

[dry wing]

only the springs within

[clear grove]

did you try both?

[dry wing]

nah, but 45 is lighter i believe

[clear grove]

yeahhh i definitely dont want lighter

[loud pier]

I will consider using 45 once I hit age 80

[clear grove]

hmm is there a website that like, compares different switches based on specs alone? I wanna see my current switches compared to the wooting ones

my current keyboard uses cherry mx silent, very bland in terms of sound and feel tbh

[meager quail]

https://www.rtings.com/keyboard-switch/tools/compare

[clear grove]

ooooo!! thank you

[meager quail]

idk if they all here tho

[clear grove]

my switches are there

[solid meteor]

silent black or silent red?

[clear grove]

red

[solid meteor]

45 actuation force then

[clear grove]

I can't find the lekkers on there though

well I at least now know that I won't like the l45's :) they're way too light and sensitive for me

[meager quail]

mb the 60

everything you can get used to

[red heart]

That raw zinc looks really good

I might have to buy an extra case now

[clear grove]

lmao

[meager quail]

lol

[raw panther]

Has the wooting 80he released yet

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[raw panther]

oh okay

[buoyant solstice]

Come back in September, if you haven't already placed a pre-order.

[raw panther]

okay thanks

[winter coral]

the sound on zinc is so different - cant even believe that

like hammering vs plastic?

[lunar dragon]

Yea, I don't like the sound on the zinc case.. so now there's two things I don't like about my pre-order. The weight and the sound.
Though there was "echo" in the clip, it sounded vastly different and way more loud, than the others.

[lime falcon]

just watched the video

80he

[tight cliff]

Different mic, listen to the sample on the 80HE page and on the video

[elfin dock]

Where can I hear it?

[tight cliff]

https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik?si=j2w4so06xvpk-6k7&t=301

[elfin dock]

Sounds good to me.

[glad meadow]

Raw still looks weird to be honest

[tight cliff]

The Zinc has more echo compared to the switches in the video, still comparing the sample on the 80HE page and the video they sound quite similiar

[buoyant solstice]

There's a reason why cases are traditionally given a finish. Raw is... well raw 😄

[winter coral]

RAW+black keycaps. An Image would be nice 🥹

[leaden geyser]

I really like the sound with the zinc case, but I think I would prefer the matte look to the metallic one. However, this is not a big issue for me.

[dense ledge]

hello i have a question i want to order the wooting 80he and i always had EU keycaps like on the 1 caps there is & and not !, is it possible to have a real EU keycaps on the website ?

[buoyant solstice]

Which language/country? No such thing as "EU keycaps"

[dense ledge]

france

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-etched-backlit-abs-keycap-set-black?Language=ISO+French&Color=Black
Only French keycaps available right now.

[dense ledge]

ok thanks

[magic pulsar]

Anyone have the ABS set to know personally how they are?

[dense ledge]

because it's not the right one on the website

[buoyant solstice]

The preview can't show all languages.

[dense helm]

Hi, I know the zinc alloy case has a white option but will the plastic one have a white option in the future?

[buoyant solstice]

Maybe, maybe not. No plans.

[dense helm]

Okay, not a big deal. I pre-ordered it in black plastic already. I move my keyboard around the desk a lot so zinc alloy was not an option.

[clear grove]

Is there a link that shows all the compatible switches with the wooting? because I know some swtiches don't support 4mm actuation point

[glad meadow]

Yeah, but the polish doesn’t look consistent imo, and too glossy. I know this is a sample, im just trying to give some feedback

[clear grove]

oh nvm I found it, its here in #🪛│modding_faq

[wary adder]

Calder was talking about 2 versions of the lightbar in todays video. By 2 versions is he talking about the version of the diffuser for the lightbar on the case?

So im assuming its the piece of plastic on top doing the diffusion, so therefore wont be an issue switching from a light case to dark case later on or vice versa.

[winter coral]

Yeah glossy is Not so nice

[dusky tiger]

I can see the appeal, but it ain't my thing

[lilac marten]

idk how i feel about the painting over on the zinc alloy case

would scratch easily no?

[lapis galleon]

paint would wear much faster compared to other options

if you do it right it could last a while

I think a few people in here were planning on cerakoting their raw zinc case

speaking of lol

[midnight iron]

White basically means you can’t do some of the other options unfortunately

Like anodizing and similar don’t work with white

It’s why most white keyboard cases are ecoat

[lapis galleon]

@midnight iron hath I summoned thou?

[midnight iron]

I’m actually tempted to wait longer to cerakote and use the raw zinc as it is first - the photos from today looked quite nice

[lapis galleon]

I need to take a look at those, I’ve been busy doing state testing

[spark lantern]

Thank you for the great update video today, Wooting team. Black zinc case looks great. 😊👍

Also very surprised by the stock bandaid mod you guys are doing under the stabs. That is seriously awesome and not something I've seen from any other keyboard manufacturer. Very cool to see.

[desert quest]

Is it possible to change my order of prebuilt white zinc to prebuilt black zinc? I love the black zinc since I saw the video today…

[pseudo parrot]

Email wooting [e-mail]
May be that you will be placed in a later batch, not sure entirely

[dusky tiger]

a case made of bismuth

[drowsy badger]

Do you know if pbt keycaps will be released for French iso profiles?

[buoyant solstice]

Uh... fresh?

[drowsy badger]

Fails 🥹

[buoyant solstice]

Ah that is easier to read. Yes! French PBT is coming, though I can't tell you exactly when.

[gilded horizon]

White zinc clears 😎

[crystal locust]

uh i saw the video

can one change case for the pre orders

PCR Frost looks amazing

slightly cooler than ghost

thx in advance

[tight cliff]

They've said so yes, but don't know how it will work, if one needs to do it through e-mail or if there's something available through the Hub

[stable solstice]

When I ordered the wooting 80he it’s says late August that’s crazy it thought it would come in 2-3 days when I ordered it bc I payed extra for it but I got scammed

[buoyant solstice]

The only scammer here is whoever tried to teach you English.

Cause uh... the campaign and checkout were VERY clear about the pre-order estimates 😄

[winter coral]

next video would be awesome when we get every case with black and with white keycaps shown.

so hard do decide with the sneak peeks currently 😄

[stable solstice]

Yea but I payed extra for the 2-3 day delivery

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - 2-3 day delivery - once the keyboard is .... at the warehouse.

UPS don't have time travel.

[stable solstice]

So I have to wait 4 in a half months

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-yup-gif-25738845

[stable solstice]

That’s crazy

[fringe badger]

smh time travel is such an old technology how could they not

[stable solstice]

Might as well get sum else

[lilac plaza]

WTH the white zinc alloy is just going to be painted?

Im not paying $400 for paint

[tight cypress]

$300*

[lilac plaza]

My total came out to $400

[buoyant solstice]

Paint as opposed to what?

[lilac plaza]

I dunno

maybe MAO

Maybe they should have just used aluminum so they can annodize?

[buoyant solstice]

Unfortunately the laws of physics kind of prevent white anodization.

[lilac plaza]

MAo isn't Anodization

[cunning gust]

Pigment?! To color my metal?!?? Na fam I'm built different. Ivory cases when?

[tight cypress]

It is anodizing, but at higher electric potential

[upbeat berry]

MAO has some downsides mostly related to it being well... oxidization

[lilac plaza]

I dunno maybe I should switch to a black one

[upbeat berry]

you can get overgrown spots, cracks and such

[lilac plaza]

I don't like the idea of paint

[tight cypress]

Feel free do to so

[buoyant solstice]

I don't actually know the limitations of MAO, but I can definitely pass on the question for Calder to respond in a future video/stream.

[icy cosmos]

What do you mean?

[lilac plaza]

painted keyboard will just end up getting scratched and worn

[crystal locust]

painted always is sort of "bad", cause of scratches that can happen

[upbeat berry]

would prob be good to talk about why we didnt go with MAO again like with the alumaze but white paint

[crystal locust]

i like the white zinc alloy look the most, but painted sounds like such a big turn off

[buoyant solstice]

Well actually we did use paint for the White and Pink ones.

[icy cosmos]

It depends on what paint you’re using?

[upbeat berry]

we didnt for the grey one

or whatever we called it

[buoyant solstice]

Indeed. I don't know what the limits are, so I've asked 😄

[buoyant solstice]

It's generally less about the paint, and more about the sealing finish you spray on top.

[upbeat berry]

this is true for any coating be it anodization, MAO or paint

they can all scratch, discolour or get spots

[lilac plaza]

yea MAo isn't all that durable either

[crystal locust]

i c i c

[icy cosmos]

That’s also important.

[cunning gust]

Paint can be amazingly durable, see cars

[lilac plaza]

But at least MAO kinda wears in?

[icy cosmos]

Car paints are not that durable 😅 ( its water based now)

[lilac plaza]

not on my cars lol

[cunning gust]

Depends on the car zzz

[upbeat berry]

theres a lot of factors on what makes anodization, paint or MAO coatings wear faster/slower including the end users skin/body and how they interact with the product

[icy cosmos]

Sorry, to break it down to you. The coating is the thing that protects the paint

[buoyant solstice]

Car paint finishes are pretty tough, considering they're going through cities and nature, hitting a ton of tiny things at high speed. But definitely not invulnerable 😄

[lilac plaza]

So the black is going to be annodized?

what is a nano coating?

[buoyant solstice]

[lilac plaza]

It said they are using a Nano coating, annodizing?

[cunning gust]

Yes that thing always on the paint is protecting the paint almost as if it done to things that are painted like it would be for the keyboard

[lilac plaza]

Just make it stainless steel like the cybertruck.

[icy cosmos]

I mean you can always do a PPF on the keyboard to keep the pristine look

[lilac plaza]

lol

[cunning gust]

Got a 3m ceramic on my keyb lads

[icy cosmos]

That’s a horrible finish though 😅

Protecting the finish on a keyboard is not a problem. Getting the right feel is. PPF feels sticky even with coating on top.

[lilac plaza]

So MAO is a bad idea then?

[buoyant solstice]

Not necessarily. I've had the grey MAO case since before it came out, and it looks good as new.

[icy cosmos]

I saw a video of a guy using Carnauba wax to get the rich deep black colour for his keyboard 😅

[upbeat berry]

ye as i said it depends on a lot of factors how a coating will wear/degrade

theres sadly no perfect coating

they all have pros and cons

[icy cosmos]

That’s facts

[lilac plaza]

Maybe I should switch to plastic

[icy cosmos]

I bought a few plastic case as spare

[tight cliff]

Calder also said in the video what they're doing with the white case to protect it/finalise it

[upbeat berry]

ye we wanna make all the cases last as long as possible and look as good as possible

[cunning gust]

Is the wrist rest going to be rubber?

[upbeat berry]

silicone

they are full silicone and not just a top layer so they are fully flexible and soft

[cunning gust]

I'll try it out I guess I have an acrylic wrist rest I really like but it won't be the correct size not sure if I will dig squishy

[hidden field]

THIS IS GOING TO BE EPIC

finally new RAW sample thx god

[clear grove]

WHAT???

HOW do u have that @hidden field

[hidden field]

wooting yt

[buoyant solstice]

It's... it's from today's video

[clear grove]

OH LMAO AHAHAHAH I THOUGHT U GOT THE SAMPLE WITH U

[hidden field]

hell no im just some random dude

noway they r giving me sample haha

[clear grove]

a random dude that listens to One ok ROCK
VERY cool random dude

[hidden field]

yo come to JP osaka at may, they are having concerts

[clear grove]

now i wanna play osu LMAO

I WISHHHHH
i'd scream half their songs

[nocturne night]

osu 👍

[hidden field]

I made raw order and thought about changing to white, but raw looks so dope in new vid

[clear grove]

wait you can order raw?

[hidden field]

LETSGO

zinc raw and pcr ghost only for module options

[clear grove]

OH

[hidden field]

I have extra switches and caps, so I ordered pcb and case

[clear grove]

are you gonna paint it?

[hidden field]

dont think so, silvery look is what I want

[clear grove]

thats also cool !
whats your current keyboard anyways?

[hidden field]

im using realforce gx1 now!

nice but kinda overpriced tbh

[nocturne night]

is there silver metal keycaps, if so that would look badass

[dense ledge]

do you have a nice website for custom french keycaps ?

[hidden field]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-silver-keycap-set there was this one

[clear grove]

ooo!! i didnt know it before just went to look for some videos. looks like you can find it in japan and us only?

did you do any mods to it?

[hidden field]

think u can use shipping proxies yup, not directly shipping to world

[clear grove]

damn it'd look really good with the raw zinc

[nocturne night]

https://awekeys.com/products/fullmetalkeycapsset?variant=47271416561945

[hidden field]

I lubed spacebar stabs, realforce is good enough for stock haha

[nocturne night]

god damn

[clear grove]

I wouldn't like metal keycaps for the fact it'd be really cold to touch

anddd i'd probably get electrocuted by them because of my house's poor earthing

[nocturne night]

i dont think it would be cold

[clear grove]

that'd be funny

[hidden field]

https://thok.design/product/the-925/ 1 keycap for 128$

[clear grove]

it wouldn't? my current keyboard has a metal body and its always cold to the touch.

[hidden field]

ICANT

[clear grove]

WAOOOH that's a little, crazy.

I think if u buy silver and then ask someone to do it for u it'd be much cheaper than that

[nocturne night]

17g keycap god damn, imagine having a light spring, it would just press itself

[clear grove]

LMAO

[hidden field]

I'll try this look first when I get mine

9009 always classic

[nocturne night]

10624 dollas for a full set hmmmmmmmm

[clear grove]

ooo this looks nice

I ordered xda profile pbt keycaps for the 60he i ordered but i'm not sure how it'll sound

these

I like the aesthetics of it dunno, then i'll pair it with the gateron jade

[hidden field]

is it puppies at top right? pog

[jolly tangle]

nmew video in the pins has a new sound test

[clear grove]

seal, puppy, a couple of things

[clear grove]

thank you! i'll check it out

[hidden field]

waitng until august...

[clear grove]

yeah mannn i couldn't wait thats why i ordered the 60he today 😭

but its worth cuz i'll end up selling the one i like less

where is the nmew video?

[buoyant solstice]

I'll give you one guess.

[clear grove]

I already checked #🔧│keyboard_modding and #💬│general
and can't find it in this channel so I have no idea LMAO

[buoyant solstice]

https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik

The answer is - The youtube channel.

[wispy trellis]

finally good internet - slowly all comes together a good keyboard is missing

[clear grove]

OH HE MEANT TO SAY NEW LMAO

I thought nmew is the name of a user here or something

ooooOOO I LOVE THE THOCCs

looks like opinions about lekkers might start to change

[molten spindle]

For competitive gaming, what would be an ideal actuation point setting, in mm?

[clear grove]

depends on the game!

you should check #🌈│wootabase_profiles

[molten spindle]

Thanks

[clear grove]

@molten spindle in case you don't find it: https://profiles.wooting.io/

[nocturne night]

most people prefere a fast respone + rapid trigger for fps games

[molten spindle]

I'm new to Wooting. Are these both settings you can turn on/off?

[jolly tangle]

ofcourse

[dense ledge]

what's the point of buying the 40€ cable for the wooting ?

[nocturne night]

yes, you can tune many things on your wooting, i suggest just playing around with wootility for a while and ask about anything you dont know about

[buoyant solstice]

You like the look of a coiled cable.

[nocturne night]

coolness

[buoyant solstice]

Or want a straight cable with a different colour sleeving

[dense ledge]

also you have rgb while tachion is on ?

[buoyant solstice]

The detatchable cable doesn't give you a better connection than the stock one

[molten spindle]

Silly question maybe but will these codes be compatible with the 80he?

[buoyant solstice]

Sure. You'll be missing some binds though

[undone wharf]

What the best looking abs case in u guys opinion

[molten spindle]

What do you mean?

[buoyant solstice]

If you take a profile from the 60HE and apply it to an 80HE, you're not providing all keys

[nocturne night]

youll be missing the keys that the 80he has that 60 doesnt yea

[molten spindle]

Ahh ok, that makes sense

Considering I'm mainly using it for competitive fps that probably won't be an issue. Just need wasd and a few others

[nocturne night]

you can just bind something yourself easily

[sinful anvil]

the zinc white looks so damn good

almost making me regret not getting it, but then again it is a 90$ extra excluding import fees

[buoyant solstice]

We won't stop selling them anytime soon, so you can always change your mind in a year.

[cunning gust]

But that's when the TLK will be out! /s

[silk pagoda]

Yes but no rgb effect

[gentle pond]

Oh man I’m kinda regretting getting white zinc now that black finish looks nice

[jolly tangle]

email for a case swap.

no regrets here on the white zinc

[glossy plume]

I just think the white key caps dont fit the case well. I wish the whites were the same shade if that makes sense. They look yellowish. Not a problem for me however since I plan on modding the keycaps anyways 🤷 on mine

[wispy trellis]

honestly white cases hafe a mac wipe to it black cases white keycaps is nice but full white? NAAA and white case black keycaps looks .....honestly there is a point why most ppl go with black

[compact hornet]

Hey all. I don't see an option to purchase the 80HE with the RAW Zinc case. Is this case only available as a stand alone product?

[winter coral]

I want to See raw with black keys.

[jolly tangle]

only as a module

[wispy trellis]

order only in module

[compact hornet]

Oooh, gotcha. I've already got the Black Zinc pre-built ordered. That RAW case looks so dope though!

[wispy trellis]

quick question is there a slight chance that plastic cases will ship faster if metal are delaid?

[obtuse wagon]

Doubt it, but I never like to say something is impossible

Im guessing they are using the same peeps that did the Alumaze, if that is the case Im sure they had a bunch of samples sent over to make sure the hiccups they had with the Concrete Alumaze does not happen again

[valid comet]

the Black zinc alloy is pretty much as expected

it looks and sounds (protoboard) really nice and as expected

[cunning gust]

will be nice when we get pictures

[lapis galleon]

arent you supposed to be dead?

[cunning gust]

rumors of my demise were greatly exaggerated

[violet garnet]

Considering the price I don't expect anything less

[valid comet]

likewise

i was mostly expecting a performance board that was highly custom but they went the eztra mile with acoustics!

[lime falcon]

goat keyboard right there

[violet garnet]

Acoustics really do make it feel premium. Not that the specs and build are any less important

Something just doesn't feel right when one of those 3 things are missing

[valid comet]

true, the acoustics do help!

[true wraith]

having watched the latest video on the finishes of the 80he is anyone concerned about the raw finish?

[umbral locust]

If by concerned, you mean think it looks ugly, then yes, I am very concerned.

Happy I got ghost plastic and white zinc, looked the best imo

[lime falcon]

yea

white zinc clears everything imo

[true wraith]

i thought it would be some kind of anodized silver look like most other high end keebs

[lime falcon]

but based of what ive seen raw zinc doesnt look good at least for my taste

[true wraith]

yeah i mean they did say it isnt finished

[lime falcon]

looks like someone DIY it at home with a hammer

[true wraith]

lmao exactly

[jade widget]

Man what yall think raw means

[true wraith]

i already have a 60he in a black case

and think in white so wanted something in silver

[umbral locust]

real lmfao

[jade widget]

If you watched the video it's very much not a final product yet

[true wraith]

regardless i think very few people would like that finish anyways

[jade widget]

What finish the finish isn't final

[true wraith]

i hope so lmao that thing looked horrible

[umbral locust]

https://prototypist.net/products/in-stock-j-02-blackout-edition-raw-keyboard-kit

Something like this, not something someone made in a cave with tony stark.

[true wraith]

yesssssssss

i wanted something exactly like this but that "RAW" aint for me

[jade widget]

Man it's like yall didn't even watch the video 😂

[umbral locust]

We are not allowed to think it's ugly?

[lime falcon]

i think hopperbus ordered raw zinc

[umbral locust]

Cope

[jade widget]

How's it cope when I could change my order at any time

[lime falcon]

my bad

[umbral locust]

We saw the raw case a while ago, and now today, and both times it looked like ass

I just don't believe that it will somehow magically look good when they finalize it. That's the cope.

If you like it though, more power to you, wish I did, so kinda jealous.

There's always Cerakote to get that sleek silver look.

[jade widget]

That was always my backup I already cerakoted my tofu60 for my 60he

[umbral locust]

What aesthetic? Got pics?

[idle depot]

How expensive was cerakoting the case?

[jade widget]

It's just black specifically this color https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/H-190/armor-black

[umbral locust]

Damn, looks mint.

why not just get a black tofu?

[chrome vine]

have the crew ever said if the pet film will be removable.. i don't want the sounds lol

[lime falcon]

what?

[jade widget]

Wasn't in stock at the time and couldn't find any so I just went custom

[chrome vine]

https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik?si=Q-ns1vumt5TvK5BU&t=393 the PET film?

i'm wondering if they've ever said if you'll be able to... peel it off without destroying the whole keyboard (would likely destroy the pet film but)

[buoyant jacinth]

yes

thats a good one to add to FAQ

[chrome vine]

thank you! though that commenter seems to be mixing up the foam and the film

[buoyant jacinth]

I'll bring it up internally to clarify it, and so that we update our website with that info in the 80HE FAQ 👍

[chrome vine]

thank you very much! i'm all for the foam and silicone and anything to dampen the noise ^^ just not the PET film aha

i'll wait n see for further confirmation but my concern was just since the pet film looks stuck on peeling it seemed like should probably check if that'd be enough to damage the keyboard, vs the foam which is removable on its own since it's just an insert

[ebon sluice]

gimme that sweet, sweet raw Genelic speaker finish

[midnight iron]

I'm opposite, i think it looks nice - but the goal of raw is raw, so it's not supposed to look finished

should be noted silver is very different from raw. In keyboard world raw has actually always meant the finish before the actual finish because normally raw keyboards are marketed to folks who might be cerakoting/anodizing themselves

for example this is a geon f1-8x in their raw, which is meant for you to either clear coat or finish yourself

[umbral locust]

that's kind of what comes to mind when they said raw.

[midnight iron]

you can see the lack of finish on the sides there still

I get the feeling heiser was thinking more silver anodized, not raw

[umbral locust]

Maybe it's just the lighting and angles, but the raw zinc just kinda looks beat up?

[midnight iron]

lighting mostly

here's another angle you can see the marks on the metal still on the f1

raw has always meant the finish isn't the super smooth, anodized type finish, not really meant to look like it's been fully polished and done

[umbral locust]

This is what people assumed we would be getting, regardless of what they called it and what it is. What they showed doesn't look like it. And most people simply just don't really know the ins and out of what is raw supposed to mean for a keyboard or what zinc looks like.

I understand their disappointment. I contemplated raw for a bit, but ultimately kinda saw this coming and got white. If the raw actually ended up being more silver I'd have gotten it.

[midnight iron]

yeah mostly the renders weren't accurate, raw was never meant to be super polished finished silver

showing raw in renders can be a bit tricky, geon also does polished renders for his raws

[umbral locust]

I think the renders gave a good idea for the other cases, but this one was a miss. But, this is the second time we get a look at the raw case and wooting will freely let people swap colors, so not really a big deal imo. Dissapointing to those that expected silver, but it is what it is.

[midnight iron]

Did heiser actually get raw?

[umbral locust]

They don't have the role, so idk.

[midnight iron]

I thought he was just saying he didn't like the look of the raw but didn't get raw

[chrome vector]

Can I change the product from black to white?

[midnight iron]

email them, case color swap is easy enough assuming it's zinc to zinc or plastic to plastic type deal

[lunar arch]

Hey there question the ghost pcr plastic is it the same as transparent case ?

[midnight iron]

what do you mean? As in is pcr plastic normal plastic?

[winter coral]

This black I like…it has a strong metal look and not a glossy style

[lunar arch]

Does it have Transparency

[midnight iron]

it's transparent but smokey transparent

[lunar arch]

Thank you

[winter coral]

Hmmmm

[molten spindle]

Do you need an analog profile to use Rappy Snappy.

[winter coral]

Better let the black be like this if they don’t like mat.

[violet garnet]

How prone to fingerprints you think it'll be?

[chrome vector]

alr ty

[icy cosmos]

It depends on how greasy fingers you’ve got

[valid comet]

i made tge right choice

[hushed yew]

lol i have the same motu m2

what do you have plugged into it?

[plain aurora]

hey im a motu m2 user too lol

[valid comet]

my fingers are made of acid

[ebon sluice]

not my setup, I just like the Alien

[tight cliff]

Those Genelecs are nice https://youtu.be/3DuVn6rwjFk

[ebon sluice]

I dig that shape and finish but man they are pricey, probably overkill for my non-analytic ears

[wind tiger]

be aware, you are comparing raw cast and raw machined parts

the F1 is machined, genelecs are case, the raw zinc case will also be cast

(yes I know that the metal had to be cast at some point and that cast metal also has some machining done to id)

[jade widget]

Yeah been planning on picking up some decent speakers put I'll probably get some Kali LP-6s they're more in my price bracket 💸

[tight cliff]

They've got quite a wide price range of their speakers so there's something for everyone and they sound good. Currently just using a pair of Bose Companion 20 which i've had since their release lol

Would like to get some Genelecs but can't currently because they wouldn't be utilized fully

[plain atlas]

RAW is for everyone

Cheapest one being 600 Euro and only comes with one speaker, so you need to buy a second one to get stereo

[tight cliff]

The cheapest RAW here is €319

[plain atlas]

But you need two
So that's 620

[ebon sluice]

Yeah same, I'll settle for my Audioengine's for a long while yet, which is mostly used to power my IEM/Headphones

[ebon sluice]

Wanna go halves in these Hart Audio D&W Aural Pleasure's?.... just a lazy 5m

[plain atlas]

O.o

they look so fucking ugly too

[icy cosmos]

Didn’t knew you were the son of Zeitgeist.

[elfin dock]

Never heard B&W speakers that sound good.

They are only good speakers to people who don't care for measurements.

[red heart]

Incorrect

They are only good speakers for people who look at the price tag and think its better cause its expensive

[vernal belfry]

a

[elfin dock]

Well that too.

B&W is also found everywhere. Feels like it.

For example Hifiklubben has them which is a popular Hifi store (terrible selection imo) found in several European countries.

And yes they're popular with old people. Don't think that's just because of their hearing loss but also marketing and again how easy they are to find. And because they're an old brand and brand loyalty.

[humble cargo]

B&W sounds fine, but kinda overpriced for what they offer

[molten spindle]

Looking at the Rappy Snappy animation it looks very much like an analog thing. Can we use it in a digital profile?

[humble cargo]

all the digital stuff functions using values from the analog

[lunar dragon]

Does anyone have experience with heavier keyboards (like the zinc cases)?

[jade widget]

haven't used a zinc case but have used aluminium

[icy cosmos]

Define heavy? 1kg or 2kg?

[toxic zephyr]

yes

[lunar dragon]

1.5+ i'd definitely categorize as heavy

[icy cosmos]

Aluminium is not that heavy

[jade widget]

aluminium is not that heavy but it's usually combined with a heavier material like brass as the weight

[icy cosmos]

I have used a 1,2kg

[lunar dragon]

I'm still just worried about the 80he zinc weight, almost 2 kg. seems like a lot and would be a little hard to micro adjust on the table

[toxic zephyr]

it is a little

[lunar dragon]

actually more than 2kg. 2.2 almost

[toxic zephyr]

get the plastic if you want to bump it around more

[jade widget]

shouldn't be that bad

[shell monolith]

Thats the point? Its good that its heavy so less movement, if you want lightweight get the plastic one?

[jade widget]

the anti-slip feet will probably prevent that more

[toxic zephyr]

my zoom is like 2.3 and with the slanted sides it's almost impossible to pick up and move

the 80he has them ridges around so probably very easy in comparison

be nice to each other come on

[ebon sluice]

I have one at 4kg and is awkard to adjust mainly because the sides are flat. The 80HE should be much easier with the wavy lips to cling onto. With the 60HE it's pretty much a subconsious thing if I need to tilt lift etc

[jolly tangle]

you both drop this. im not warning again

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/done-well-gif-18074129

[ashen pond]

Ye wtf

Baiting moderators doesn't help your situation.

[humble cargo]

damn did I miss some spice

[wispy trellis]

take the iloud micro almost as good as if not the same for NON MUSIC FANATICS; sadly not as good looking but very very good desksspeakers tiny without bass box still perfectly for home usage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi5umvPW1yQ&t=25s

[elfin dock]

I have the iLouds. They are good but the cable that was included is faulty.

[wispy trellis]

don't know about your countr but if i buy something and it breaks down within 2 years i get it replaced(germany) --> just write them

[verbal solar]

Is only the ANSI version of 80HE prebuilt? So if i choose ISO-UK it comes as a kit?

[desert quest]

The 80HE itself comes as prebuilt but you‘ll get the keycaps separately. (Someone correct me if I‘m wrong)

[wispy trellis]

Correct! Here get a Cooky!

[desert quest]

Thanks

[fallen epoch]

[hidden field]

are we still going on for founder's campaign? looks like website is bugged

[buoyant solstice]

I don't see any of that on the landing page.

[hidden field]

when u select colors?

[red heart]

Do you still have the page open from when founders campaign was a thing?

[buoyant solstice]

What?

[hidden field]

no i meant bottom of https://wooting.io/wooting-80he/wooting-80he, when you select pcr ghost or zinc black, perks show up

[buoyant solstice]

Like I said - They do not.
Do a CTRL+F5

[hidden field]

dunno maybe my edge is cursed

[cunning gust]

I get the same thing as xaradise

[quasi yacht]

yo guys if i just want wooting 60e is this right?

[hidden field]

did ctrl shift r and ctrl f5 also.

[buoyant solstice]

Still not showing on Edge.

[lime falcon]

yes

[red heart]

Maybe it‘s still cached from then

[clear grove]

no case?

[red heart]

Try on your phone

[clear grove]

oh sorry i just realized that's not the module

[lime falcon]

its not module

[quasi yacht]

wyd

[hidden field]

well it still happens on Firefox with no cache, can u tell them to check international pages

[buoyant solstice]

What is the url you're on exactly?

[hidden field]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he/wooting-80he

[hoary quiver]

can confirm got the same result after changing the color

[buoyant solstice]

I can't replicate it at all, but I can pass it on.

[hidden field]

[shell sorrel]

this

[buoyant solstice]

Oh it happens when you click those.

[hidden field]

haha thx im not the only one

[river wharf]

can confirm, looks like it's the color description that haven't been updated

[buoyant solstice]

[slow compass]

When are the lekker v2s available separately?

[buoyant solstice]

A cautious guess would be when the 80HEs ship out - cause they need them to get packed.

[slow compass]

Alright because I want them on my he60

[meager quail]

why not jades tho some ppl say they are better

idk about v2

[slow compass]

They are better over v1 but v2 might be better over the jades

[buoyant solstice]

"people" don't have the V2s to compare with, so it's all speculation.

What isn't speculation, is that the jades are shorter, so you lose some travel distance.

[slow compass]

I’ll just wait for the v2s so ppl can compare them

[meager quail]

just wondering do you know if possilbe to pay in usd and not in country currency?

[buoyant solstice]

That's all automated via Shopify. They handle currency conversion.

(No. That means no)

[meager quail]

-.-

[hoary quiver]

i think you can pay with revolut card

[meager quail]

i can pay with what ever but with usd currency i can do 3 payments for free

[trail orbit]

If i order the 80he module with l45(v2) . are those switches also come pre-lubed ?

[buoyant solstice]

All Lekker switches are factory prelubed.

Always has been

[trail orbit]

thank you ❤️

[cunning gust]

||Lube is kinda unneeded on contactless switches anyway but I can't say this without getting crucified||

[buoyant solstice]

That entirely depends on your goal.

[red heart]

nah it can get scratchy if you have no lube (from my experience)

[cunning gust]

[nova nexus]

All switches have moving parts. Whether it's a mechanical switch or a magnetic one doesn't make any difference to whether or not lube improves the feeling

[buoyant solstice]

(or sound)

[cunning gust]

That's just wrong friction is caused by things moving against each other, hal effect switches simply have less contact surfaces, hence less friction there is a very notable difference, between traditional mechanical linier switches and something contactless. I'm not saying lube does nothing but contactless are inherently going to have less friction

[lime falcon]

Ok Bob Dole

compare he switch with a lube and without and type your opinion after

[buoyant solstice]

Less, not none

[hoary quiver]

whos gonna tell him there is still contact in those switches

[lime falcon]

yea use that emoji lmao

[meager quail]

all moving parts must be oiled / greesed or else it will destroy it self

[hoary quiver]

bob joined discord to share copium and piss himself off in salty river

[slow compass]

Maglev switch when?

[nova nexus]

The contact surfaces that are responsible for the lion's share of switch feel come from the stem being depressed into the switch housing, a combination of the stem against housing contact and the spring compression. This is pretty much identical between hall effect switches and traditional mechanical switches. The difference between the two, the leaf that drives the signal for a mechanical switch, is practically irrelevant in this context.

[quasi yacht]

guys where can i se batch

[lime falcon]

in the hub

press on your order and you will see

[vague prism]

Hmm

[graceful copper]

i dont undestand the rappy snappy

[cunning gust]

It's okay it doesn't exist yet

[buoyant solstice]

Calder does explain it in the video.

[fickle flint]

I still don't know if I use raptor or jades switches 😔

[lime falcon]

between those 2 jades

[fickle flint]

Why

[lime falcon]

raptors arent even an upgrade from current lekkers, sound is worse than jades, also because of stronger magnet rapid trigger is delayed when you bottom out

I own both and raptors are ass

if youre using rgb, it fucks up colors also

[fickle flint]

I have both too, I don't use RGB, is there another choice?

[lime falcon]

other switches?

#🪛│modding_faq message

[fickle flint]

another option that you think is better.

[wispy trellis]

there is good and there is bad factory prelube as much i trust wooting on the whole technical side i don't hafe much trust on the lecker switches till i see them (the stemwobble in the v1 was something serious witch should hafe been noticed in the first place) and honestly i don't see any explantation why not boxed for the v2 boxed is in almost all cases superior

[buoyant solstice]

Not sure why I was pinged over that.

[wispy trellis]

i tried to switch it off but my mouse doubleclicked instead of single ... going kaputt.. it seems GRML no g604 on the market anymore

[valid comet]

it can help with the rails though

[umbral locust]

Gateron Dual Rails or Jades, nothing else is worth considering atm

[cunning gust]

Are dual rails out yet?

[buoyant solstice]

From... who?

[umbral locust]

If you mean Gateron KS20Us, they have been out for a long time.

[cunning gust]

Ic ic

[unique matrix]

What does the “ARM” mean in wooting hub on my order right before is says “Ghost”?

[buoyant solstice]

That the keyboard uses an ARM based processor. All modern 60HE, 2HE, UwU and 80HE do.

[unique matrix]

Thanks!

[molten spindle]

Looking at the Rappy Snappy animation it seems like an analog thing. Can it still be used in a digital profile?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes

[soft quarry]

Is it possible to add the name on the website now

[jolly tangle]

yes

its not visible but you can submit your name or discord name

[soft quarry]

Kk

[terse cairn]

am I able to switch my 80he to the zinc version?

[cosmic needle]

i think they made a statement where u can do changes to your keyboard order

[terse cairn]

and I still keep my founders campaign extras?

[cosmic needle]

and if its to late u can buy a zinc case after and switch it out urself

idk about that but should be

just hit up the sup they can do changes i know about that

[terse cairn]

thank you very much

[cosmic needle]

u welcome

[terse cairn]

I heard the difference in sound between plastic and zinc and I knew I had to get the zinc lol

[cosmic needle]

is there a sound from the zinc yet?

[terse cairn]

one second

https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik

go the 5 minute mark

[cosmic needle]

it sounds really solid

thank you

now im even more hyped up hahahaha i got the zinc black

[thin stump]

No wireless O_O

[cosmic needle]

its fine for not being wireless

[crisp jungle]

does anyone know whats the maxmimum weight of keycap the jades can have

[cosmic needle]

if they couldve done wireless they wouldve im sure, but they want the product to be as good as it needs

[crisp jungle]

ik people have had issues with ceramic caps for spacebar because it was heavier than the whole actuation force xd

[keen wraith]

do we know the weight of the zinc case ?

[thin stump]

They would but need to make money on a wired variant first

[crisp jungle]

just worried maybe some of the 2u keycaps are also too heavy

[terse cairn]

lol I just messaged them hope I can do the switch🙏🏻🙏🏻

[cosmic needle]

i think the mechanical part on this keyboard is so advanced, they only can go wired

[plain aurora]

honestly i dont see a point in a wireless kb so i prefer not having to worry about some lithium battery's lifetime

[cosmic needle]

the 8k poling rate and everything u can only get that through usb c i think

[umbral locust]

same. For me, wireless is a negative not a positive.

[plain aurora]

ya i agree

[umbral locust]

But their goal is ultra fast keyboard, doing it wireless just doesn't make sense.

[cosmic needle]

yea

[umbral locust]

All things equal, wired will always be faster than wireless.

[crisp jungle]

wireless would cause problems with acoustics too cus the case would have more space needed to allow for the height of the battery

[cosmic needle]

yea and it showed the 60he is a beast and still the best keyboard to date

its perfect and the 80he is gonna be even greater

[lilac plaza]

Ya cause it has arrow keys

[radiant totem]

cope

[lilac plaza]

I still wonder how it will compare to the Q1HE

[umbral locust]

It's no comparison, Q1HE can't compete with wooting.

[lilac plaza]

Different switches for sure

I dunno I'm loving my new Q8 Max. Alice layout just fits my hands more betta.

Also like the wireless to switch between computers easier

But The wooting will be for having rig only I guess

[umbral locust]

That's great, but if we are talking gaming performance, all that matters is the software and the latency.

[lilac plaza]

I wish it was wireless though.

I didn't know if I would be able to tell between 8000htz and 1000htz

I hardly even use my keyboard for games since they are mostly console based

[umbral locust]

Why get a wooting then?

[thin stump]

Yh Switch between productivity and looks cleaner for astetics

[dry sandal]

why do u need a wireless kb?

[valid comet]

yeah I agree, I will get my Q1 HE in 2 days and my 80HE August, but yeag wooting is performance whereas Q1 HE is just versatile and easy to switch with

[thin stump]

Hate wires

[valid comet]

also I wanted to see HE vs TMR

[jade widget]

You know the thing about a wireless keyboard is you have to plug it in to charge

[lilac plaza]

5 computers in my office

[dry sandal]

you can get some really nice sounding wireless KBs lmao it doesnt really matter if they have wireless on the 80he or not to me but i dont think they kept it wired because of some big brain move like this

[lilac plaza]

Ya but That happens when I bring it to work because they didn't allow wireless.

[dry sandal]

Most WL keyboards do not have 5-device compatability so it doesnt really matter, if you can cable manage nicely u can get a many input controller and just use that

[lilac plaza]

Granted it's a heavy keyboard!

[crisp jungle]

i agree, but the extra work that they have to put in to accomodate is just not worth it for them considering the board is already jam packed with cool features

[dry sandal]

if you arent gaming on KBM you really don't need a HE keyboard at all though.

[lilac plaza]

The keychron does

[dry sandal]

yeah i agree i do not think WL is needed compared to all the other things they used their time for. I'd never take WL over screw in stabs lol

[lilac plaza]

Ya it's more of a curiosity

[dry sandal]

do u have it already?

[lilac plaza]

I get carpal tunnel so I try to use controller when I can

[lilac plaza]

Yea, I couldent wait for the HE and wanted to try Alice

I really really like it. Still getting used to Alice but feel like I can type my properly in it

[dry sandal]

well it doesnt matter then, you will not notice a difference, you already bought a good kb for your needs so youll be completely fine

[lilac plaza]

Still curious on HE. Will it be enough to get me back to keyboard and mouse?

[dry sandal]

for this i play on low sensitivity and use my entire arm to aim as a preventative measure, but if you're already dealing with carpal tunnel this might not work

[lilac plaza]

I have one of them Logitech ergo mice

[dry sandal]

not really, unless you're a top performing fps player or something you will not notice a difference.

[lilac plaza]

I haven't tried using the Jupiter banana switches for gaming yet. They pretty much replaced my topre for productivity though

[crisp jungle]

can i swap a l60 spring into a jade just for my spacebar or is it not compatible

[jade widget]

I know people who swear by the kinesis keyboard for carpal tunnel

[dry sandal]

yeah u can its just a switch

[lilac plaza]

I was looking at these kinds

[dry sandal]

no idea where you're gonna find one switch tho lmao

[crisp jungle]

just wondering if like the springs are different and might cause issues

[lilac plaza]

Relearning Alice is hard enough

[crisp jungle]

friend has left over l60 v1s

[dry sandal]

oh i see lmao, yes zombie switches are very popular. a lot of people on r/mechanicalkeyboards have already done spring swaps for the lekkers and jades

not sure if it will feel better tho

[lilac plaza]

Doesn't the founders come with both?

[crisp jungle]

yes but id rather just have the founders pack one unopened

stealing from friends is the way to go

[lilac plaza]

I'm guessing wooting key caps are better quality

[crisp jungle]

darn 20g spacebar keycap...

[lilac plaza]

I don't even know if I would like that or not

I guess I could just put that the on a key I don't use much.

[hybrid birch]

Considering the sound of the zinc case we heard in the last update video, is the overall sound better with a zinc case rather than abs? To me it looked like a yes

[lusty garden]

Have they shown what’s the case included in the zinc alloy version?

[jolly tangle]

no you cannot

@crisp jungle

Because the spring of a lekker is 4mm and the spring of a jade is 3.6

[crisp jungle]

wouldnt that mean its still okay to put a lekker spring in a jade but not the other way around

in any case i think i think im better off getting custom springs off aliexpress or something

[jolly tangle]

Good question, no this will not work. however wooting is releasing a spring pack with all kind of different strengths from 100 to 25g iirc

[crisp jungle]

ohh

hopefully we wont need to buy like 70 springs at a time

[lament vapor]

they have im psure, mattering if u get the module or the build black/white one

[jolly tangle]

no you get all its a bundle

[lusty garden]

Oooh thanks

[jolly tangle]

and it should be released in the next 2 weeks

[lime aspen]

Arden, when rappy snappy!!!

We need it now

[crisp jungle]

wait so we get like all the 100 to 25g springs? or am i understanding this wrong

[lime aspen]

Still no ETA or is there an approximate date yet?

[crisp jungle]

or we pick a weight and get a full set of x amount

[jolly tangle]

120 pieces

each

[lime aspen]

L35 sounds wild

[jolly tangle]

next month should be a beta

it also depends on the patent but I have 0 info about that

[lime aspen]

Towards the beginning or end?? That's exciting to hear

[crisp jungle]

you get 720 springs sent to you?! 😳

[jolly tangle]

ya

[lime aspen]

I see, thanks for the info still

[crisp jungle]

oh wowee

[lime aspen]

Is there a confirmed price for the spring bundle?

[crisp jungle]

wait... but will this be compatible with the jades?

[jolly tangle]

no only with lekker switches

[crisp jungle]

or will i just have to put a lekker

[lime aspen]

What exactly is bad about putting the lekker springs in jades, won't the spring just be compressed a bit more

[jolly tangle]

to the point it will jam

but feel free to give it a try

@icy charm

Does the lekker spring (4mm) work in a jade switch(3.6mm)

[lime aspen]

I see

[icy charm]

Yeah they work

[velvet bear]

will the wooting 80he come with a cable? i see in the preorder screen theres an option for a braided detatchable cable and I am wondering if it comes with a normal cable at base

[buoyant solstice]

A stock cable is included

[jolly tangle]

ooh lmao forget everything what i said @lime aspen @crisp jungle

[hoary quiver]

wootroll role soon

[valid comet]

wootroll is the equalent of april fools here

[keen wraith]

am i able to add another product to what i already pre ordered so they get shipped together ?

[lime falcon]

email [e-mail]

[charred oak]

Is it possible to upgrade to zinc but keep the founders edition pre-order benefits

[valid comet]

i thought WL made mice

[lime falcon]

Yes you can email [e-mail] and ask for it

[dense ledge]

Is the keycaps already lubed ?

[buoyant solstice]

No. Because you don't lube keycaps. You lube the inside of the switches. 🙂

And those are indeed lubed during assembly by the machines.

[dense ledge]

Yes sorry the switches

[buoyant solstice]

[plain atlas]

imagine trying to type on a keyboard but your fingers keep slipping off the keycaps? XD

[dense ledge]

And generally you lube it how many times pers years ?

[plain atlas]

about once every 4 years

[dense ledge]

Ok so it’s once every blue moon , i expected more than that

[fallen epoch]

I have the opposite effect, coffee spill truly keeping me glued to my keyboard

[plain atlas]

yikes

well, lube does tend to get sticky if left on a surface

and coffee!! LOL

[fallen epoch]

So does this mean we can potentially lube the switches with coffee?

[plain atlas]

:')

[merry ermine]

just ordered mine. not knowledgeable in keyboards much but was influenced by friends lol

[delicate dagger]

I feel like this question has been asked already but... how come you couldn't choose the translucent grey/white plastic case with the 80HE preorders

[compact wasp]

You can select frost case with module, not pre-build

Same as raw zinc, module only

[delicate dagger]

right... I noticed that. just unsure as to the reasoning for it

[buoyant solstice]

To keep the variants and shelf space lean.

[delicate dagger]

ahh okay

I really liked how it looks. might have to try to buy one later on

[compact wasp]

Assembling a keyboard doesn’t look that hard, so give it a try!

I never done it tho, maybe it’s even fun to do

[delicate dagger]

oh no it's not hard usually. I've done it many times. just hoped I didn't have to spend 50-60 euro on case+shipping heh

[boreal plover]

hey guys, just had a question because I might order the 80he, which switches are better, the magnetic jade or lekker v2?

[delicate dagger]

oh... wait. I could have ordered the module + switches + the frost case, and no caps... now I feel a little dumb. is it too late to change if I was in the first pre-orders?

since I have too many keycap sets I didn't really need the stock caps

[compact wasp]

One way to find out, shoot them an email

[delicate dagger]

I shall do that... thanks for the heads-up on that

it would also be a little bit cheaper... now we wait and pray!

[meager quail]

no one had yet the v2 switch so it hard to tell but anyways you can jades later

[fiery garnet]

Hi, quick question, if I order the 80HE module with switches and the keycaps, do I have to assemble it myself, or does it come preassembled?

[hidden field]

urself

[fiery garnet]

ty

[hidden field]

it's not hard, think of pressing some LEGO blocks haha

[delicate dagger]

from what I was told it has the brass screw inserts so it should be even more pain-free than the kind where you screw into the plastic itself

with HE switches you don't even need to worry about bent pins right?

[cosmic needle]

Yes no bent pins anymore

[delicate dagger]

comfy

[cosmic needle]

U can even install them in another direction if you don’t want the rgb to come trough

Just put them in the other way

[cosmic needle]

Idk if it completely blocks the rgb or just dims it

[hoary quiver]

so... is there any info when foundator names will be on the website?

[meager quail]

why you even care about it

[hoary quiver]

why shouldn't I?

[toxic zephyr]

no info

[hoary quiver]

:<

[buoyant solstice]

Before we display them all, we need to double check that no names are intentionally offensive. And finish the code to make it look good. 🙂

[plain atlas]

I still find it funny that yall printed each instance of "Anonymous" on the 60HE box, could put it on there only one and it would apply to all the founders who didnt give their name

or maybe its better this way, theyu can all fight over which placement of the word anonymous they would prefer to have

[grizzled cove]

just realized my order got delayed from july to early august

[buoyant jacinth]

Our YouTube reply has been clarified, and I've been told the PET film is easy to peel off

removing it shouldn't damage the PCBA unless you are very rough with it

[chrome vine]

thank you very much!

[dense ledge]

late august here lol

[ivory pagoda]

looks like ill be getting the 60he then

i was hoping id have till early august before my college classes start

because i totally need a wooting keyboard for college man

[grizzled cove]

dayum

hopefully we get it in august and not sept ig

[ivory pagoda]

my classes start the 19th 😭

[grizzled cove]

in what month?

[oblique marsh]

hey on the wooting site I can put anything like first name, no need for it to correspond to the order?

[nova nexus]

It takes the first name from your shipping address

[oblique marsh]

this

[nova nexus]

Yes

[ivory pagoda]

august

[oblique marsh]

ok thx like that I can put my IG nickname in first name instead of my real first name for the founder page

[grizzled cove]

i mean if ur in the US its possible to get it b4 ig

[ivory pagoda]

i might test my luck

and just wait

[grizzled cove]

🤷‍♂️