🌟│wooting80he

[sage reef]

it's separate project looks like, won't ship with this campaign seems like

[storm grove]

So we should wait if we want a volume knob version?

[sage reef]

it's probably some switch-knob thingy, fitting in any switch slot, will be sold separately or something, probably very cheap.

[winged birch]

It’ll most likely be a separate product altogether.

So I wouldn’t recommend waiting as you’d miss out on the campaign perks.

[buoyant solstice]

You will not need to re-purchase an 80HE for the knob. That's all I'll say

[low barn]

Should I cancel my 60 order and wait for 80

[buoyant solstice]

Up to you.

Can you wait till sometime in summer?
Do you prefer a larger or a smaller keyboard?

[low barn]

Yeah I can probably wait I dont care too much about the size of it

[fickle silo]

I forgot volume knobs are even on keyboards

[winter coral]

Price for extra zinc case - some thoughts?

Since wie cant buy plastic later

[winged birch]

Should be less than the Alumaze.

That was the goal of switching over to die casting over CNCing.

[tranquil blaze]

Do you guys think that third party companies will make 80He aluminum cases after?

[low token]

No one knows

[buoyant solstice]

Watch as KBDfans steal our .stl files and make clone cases once more.

[winged birch]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[buoyant solstice]

[tranquil blaze]

💀

[winged birch]

Can’t steal what is free. You can yoink it though.

[buoyant solstice]

There's a difference between using publicly available files for personal use...and turning them into carbon copy, commercial products 😄

[low token]

Tho those files are free right?

[winged birch]

That’s a certified yoink.

[somber elm]

why would u make stl free knowing they wont respect IP rights

[low token]

Wait they did alumaze copy?

[buoyant solstice]

No they copied our switch plate files wholesale.

[low token]

Well I remember that plate files where somewhere to recreate

[winged birch]

I don’t think they recreated them and even if they did it’d still result in the same thing more or less.

They did make some changes to it so I really wouldn’t call that stealing.

[low token]

So this time there is no way they have Access to files

[buoyant solstice]

They did. That's all I say on the matter.

[fallen forge]

probably talking about the addon thing in here, doubt it wouldn't be ready at release as the thing is relatively simple (my guess anyway)

i'd guess volume knob comes with the keyboard at no cost or small price like $10-15 with some quirky addons like joystick later

[winged birch]

There will be after its shipped out.

[buoyant solstice]

Never said that. I just made a funny reference to the fact that we shared files for hobby use, that KBD immediately stole for commercial use.

So if/when we release case files, I'm sure they'll do their thing 😄

[low token]

Volume knob for 50€ and i'am fine

[low token]

Well it is china. They see yoink and make profit

[winged birch]

Yeah, that’s how I understood it as well but could also be the Lekker V2 switches. I hope so much it’ll be Untamed’s design but we’ll see in a couple days.

[low token]

Brick 80He steel case would be my favorite

[idle depot]

👀

[low token]

Knob is for weird people. They want Knob so 30-50€ is enough to make them pay

[idle depot]

I wouldn’t be too mad if they made a case for it. But an exact remake would be silly lol.

[winged birch]

An exact remake wouldn’t sell and a case for the 80HE will be much harder to machine than their Tofu which is just a block of aluminum.

I don’t think we’ll see 80HE cases from KBD

but maybe, who knows.

[idle depot]

Yeah the 60% profile is more popular than the 75 or TKL aswell

[lapis galleon]

just make a metal block

[winged birch]

Well, we have not much information on how popular the 80HE will be. I don’t think it’ll be more popular than the 60% though considering the controversy it went through.

[lapis galleon]

there you go tofu 80he

[winged birch]

Good luck tray mounting the 80HE. Will KDB supply a drill to drill holes for tray through the PCB? 😉

Tray is a whole lot easier than gasket to design and machine.

[weary wren]

Was there any reason give for the lip design they chose for the case to have?

[winged birch]

Wooting’s gasket in particular.

[winged birch]

For sound and feel.

If gasket mounting is what you mean with the lip.

[weary wren]

I mean the outside lip that goes around the external part of the case where it is like hollow

[winged birch]

Oh, that’s just aesthetics.

To make the keyboard stand out perhaps.

[weary wren]

ahh ok, just didn't know if there was any special reason.

Guess I just need to decide on keycaps now

[winged birch]

Not that I know of.

[winged birch]

Oh man, good luck on that one. 😆

[humble cargo]

way to ruin a nice keyboard

[weary wren]

Yea I can never decide. I made my wife a leobog hi75 with the Lord of the rings elvish keycaps. She loves them but I kinda disliked them. Too tall for me.

[winged birch]

That’s keycaps for ya.

[verbal solar]

any WoB keycap set that has a good grip?

[weary wren]

is it south facing or north facing leds?

[verbal solar]

on wooting? if so north

[low token]

North i think

[low token]

You are sweat?

[winged birch]

He is sweat 100%

[winged birch]

80HE will have north facing LEDs too.

[verbal solar]

whens it expected to arrive at ones house?

[winged birch]

Summer 2024

[buoyant solstice]

Ehh.... (late) summer?

[verbal solar]

holy shit

is it worth the wait

[winged birch]

Depends

If you like the layout and features then yeah.

If not, then no.

[verbal solar]

is it worth the wait over the 60he?

[verbal solar]

100%

[winged birch]

Again, if you like the layout and features then yeah.

[verbal solar]

I do like the layout, but whats the difference in features?

[winged birch]

8KHz polling and scanning compared to 1KHz on the 60HE. Which decreases latency by 0.875ms.

[verbal solar]

I thought it was 4k

[winged birch]

It’s 8KHz.

[verbal solar]

oh wow ur right true 8k

how much is the 80he gonna be?

[lapis galleon]

it should be noted that this difference is negligible, but technically the 80he is faster (it just doesnt matter all that much)

[lapis galleon]

check pins

[winged birch]

Yeah! It’s less than one ms difference though so not really noticeable.

[verbal solar]

do you guys think itll be sold out?

[winged birch]

If you preorder during the campaign no.

After that it’ll be in batches like the 60HE has been.

[lapis galleon]

if you preorder it early then no, otherwise probably

[verbal solar]

campaigns a month too right?

[buoyant solstice]

32 days.

[winged birch]

Yeah, you can preorder after that but you’ll miss out on the perks.

[verbal solar]

looks and sounds better to the consumer tho

[lapis galleon]

pretty much yeah

[winged birch]

It does. Bigger numbers are always good for marketing.

[verbal solar]

depends

[winged birch]

You know what I meant.

😉

[lapis galleon]

wooting likes to push hardware to its limits. on top of that, if they didnt do it someone else would and that would be bad for sales.

[verbal solar]

thats true, they were pretty much the first for everything

and the best

[tiny tartan]

Batch 1 gone in 5 minutes

[daring flax]

basically order during the founders campaign or wait over half a year

(after the founders keybs ship)

[buoyant solstice]

Naw.

Three months max. Most likely less given our focus on keeping new production batches coming fast.

[waxen turret]

wait, is the campaign going?

[winged birch]

He was joking.

[waxen turret]

lol, he scared me for a sec

[pastel hare]

Anyone know the size of that 80he space bar? Wondering if a custom spacebar I have will fit

[low token]

@buoyant solstice um why you dont have wooting team role?

[winged birch]

6.25u

[buoyant solstice]

Next question.

[winged birch]

A Mansen Q&A omg

[real gulch]

Why do you like ducks

[daring flax]

who doesnt

[real gulch]

fish

[winged birch]

I am literally hearing ducks, not kidding. They’re listening 😬😬

[real gulch]

[pastel hare]

https://tenor.com/view/lwts-lets-go-gif-25090667

Thank you fam! 🫡

[winged birch]

Yw

[high ether]

Batch 1 is going to crash the site

[dusty salmon]

I have a question where i can pre order the 80he? Thanks

[high ether]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

4 more days

[dusty salmon]

Thx 👌🏾

[jolly tangle]

preorders open next friday

[tight cliff]

Friday? so the Launch date for the page is Thursday to check what one would like?

[valid comet]

Does the 80HE use lekker switches? KS20?

[tight cliff]

Yeah same as before

[valid comet]

Dont lekkers rattle a bit?

[tight cliff]

There's Lekker V2 coming with the board that have got tighter tolerances

[valid comet]

Nice!

What is the spring gf

60g?

[tight cliff]

L45 & L60 so should be the same as before, there will be spring packs coming though

[valid comet]

Nice

Im hoping to get myself some L45s

Also these defukt caps, are they good PBT or like corsair K70 quality "PBT" which isnt good at all

[golden tendon]

How long will it take for the 80he to ship out after ordering

[buoyant solstice]

Sometime (late) summer.

[golden tendon]

How come?

[valid comet]

Because preorders start in 4 days

And im getting one

Black zinc alloy

[low token]

What keycaps? Cool abs/pbt, metal or ceramic

[valid comet]

About the 80HE caps, are they good PBT or cheap PBT

[low token]

Propably they are good enough

[valid comet]

Cause my fingers produce keycap acid no matter how clean they are

Extremely bad

[low token]

Acid?

[valid comet]

"Acid"

[low token]

?

[valid comet]

My fingers destroy the legends and make pbt caps glossy really easily

[low token]

Well only solution would be gloves

[tiny tartan]

For sure lol
I hope the website doesn't crash

[high ether]

Yeah

I just know it's going to be very slow

[low token]

@valid comet pbt keycaps are double shot

So i think you are fine

[valid comet]

K70 are double shot too, double shot doesnt really tell you the composition of the caps

Doubleshot tells you how many layers there are

[toxic zephyr]

well pbt is pbt

[lapis galleon]

its probably not PBT then, sounds like ABS

[cursive pumice]

i just feel like they're going to have issues with the 8000hz polling rate because constant or efficient 8000hz polling rate is hard to achieve and stabilized i really wonder how they're going to do it.

[hollow sigil]

Be sure that they will fix any software issue.. after having the 60he .. its Amazing !

[brazen iris]

Jeah this is not finalmeme

[hollow sigil]

LOL I waiting for the ULX 6 months

[brazen iris]

Also wired is making things easier

[brazen iris]

xdd💀

[hollow sigil]

first batch.. sold both of the mouses

[brazen iris]

Thought bout it. Never ordered luckily

[hollow sigil]

Wait for the 4th batch

they had QC issues...

[brazen iris]

Nop they are not getting my money x)

Going for a 300€ 80he is the play instead

[hollow sigil]

hahaha same.. And I have the centerpice code lol

[lapis galleon]

they keep saying the next batch will fix QC issues and then it just... doesnt

[hollow sigil]

yeah I will get the white version..

[low token]

Well only good mouse is g502

[hollow sigil]

LOL... i dont even follow the discord anymore .. I was so mad to wait 6 months

[hollow sigil]

I am using viper v2 pro and lamzu 4k mini.. good for me xD

[lapis galleon]

I doubt there would be any issues. if you're worried about games lagging like with high polling rate mice, then wooting has stated that because of how keyboards work compared to mice there shouldnt be any issues like that. at worst there will be an option to set the keyboards scanning rate to 1k.

[lapis galleon]

fellow lamzu enjoyer?

[lapis galleon]

that thing is a brick

[upper charm]

If we join the founders, can we expect a pcb switch or update that we’ll miss on? Similarly to what happened with the 60 and the updated ARM pcb?

[hollow sigil]

I realy like the Lamzu .. I found a good deal for the mini one..

[lapis galleon]

the reason the 60he switched to ARM was due to AVR stock drying up and as such AVR becoming way too expensive. iirc the 80he uses ARM already, and there shouldnt be any PCB updates to worry about.

[low token]

It is light

[upper charm]

Thanks!!!

[valid comet]

Whatever corsair used is a PBT composite that is mostly cheap ABS which feels criminal

No wonder it took 1 month for the keycaps to get glossy

[tame bane]

Could the fonder perk be changed to just a free switch pack rather than getting an extra pack that would be a waste for some

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[tame bane]

Such a waste of plastic

[buoyant solstice]

You either pick L60 preinstalled and get L45 free
Or you pick the module, any kind of switch offered and your choice of L45 or L60 free

[tame bane]

The module perk says buy 1 switch pack get one free

[buoyant solstice]

And that's what I just explained.

[tame bane]

So you 90 + 90 switches with the module kit is my understanding

[buoyant solstice]

You get 90 + 90 with any 80HE pick.

[tame bane]

Thats what seems pointless to me

[buoyant solstice]

That's your prerogative I suppose.

[tame bane]

Anyone else have this view?

[nova nexus]

In a population of people, almost certainly

[fallen epoch]

80he comes with a switch puller so i think itll be nice to see if i like 60s or 45s on the 80he

[buoyant solstice]

Mhmm. Or say... Jades vs. L45v2

[fallen epoch]

Also a choice

[tame bane]

Fair enough, for me I will bin the l45s

Worth a shot to try and save money instead

[past cape]

What switches were used in the 2 HE? The 60s?

[buoyant solstice]

All of our keyboards have L60s preinstalled.

Except for the 60HE module which... has none.

[past cape]

Hmm, I would have been interested in trying heavier switches for finer control with the 80he, guessing that's not an option with the preassembled versions

[sand girder]

How thick are the stock keycaps on the 80he?

1.5mm?

[queen vigil]

Will the founders campaign zinc alloy version come preassembled?

or does only the pcr version come assembled?

[fallen epoch]

You can get either pre-assembled

[tame bane]

Will anymore founder perks be announced?

[buoyant solstice]

They've all been revealed.

[crimson quiver]

https://wooting.io/post/80he-founders-campaign-sneak-peak

[lapis galleon]

wooting doesnt sell switches heavier than the L60s, however they're releasing spring packs with heavier and lighter springs soon™️

[dark saddle]

The funders of 60HE also had a page with their own name on it? what does it look like?

[buoyant solstice]

They did not. The names are on all 60HE boxes.

[sonic fjord]

cant wait to buy an 80he :))

[valid comet]

For the 80HE I just pre-order in 4 days right

[sonic fjord]

yep

[valid comet]

Ok

So it just accepts something like mastercard no problem?

Ive never done an online transaction in my life

[dark saddle]

I hadn't actually noticed that xD Will it be the same with 80HE?

[buoyant solstice]

Afraid not. We're expecting a lot more people to join the campaign - too many to fit on the box. Hence the names on website instead.

[edgy echo]

<@&375234916776017933> you sayed the 80HE will have true 8k polling, but will there be a way to lower the polling rate? My Pc has issues with frame drops on high polling mices (2000 and higher) and I’m worried the same issue could appear on the 80HE

[nova nexus]

Please don't tag the entire company unless there's a moderation emergency

[upbeat berry]

Yes there will be an option. Mice are also more costly processing wise

keyboards send absolute states of keys

mice send more data as they need relative positions to move the cursor

[edgy echo]

Oh sorry, I didn’t knew

[edgy echo]

Okay nice, thank you for your help!

[gilded kindle]

Is the translucent casing speckled or not speckled?

[upbeat berry]

id expect a perf impact to be minimally more than 1khz but just in case we will have options

[upbeat berry]

you mean the trans white case? or the trans black?

[gilded kindle]

Either, but am leaning towards the smoky translucent

But speckling would bug the heck outa me, so if it’s speckled I’ll end up with the boring black heh

[nova nexus]

No speckles 🙂

[high ether]

I can't wait to oil up my 80he

the first all oiled up 80he

[jolly tangle]

speckles was the best one

😢

[valid comet]

When we are talking the 80HE Zinc Alloy being heavy af, how heavy is it going to be fully assembled? Would it affect shipping costs?

[nova nexus]

Yes, shipping costs are affected by weight

[waxen turret]

What payment methods are allowed for the preorder?

[nova nexus]

Same as are currently available

[waxen turret]

so no paypal 😦

[nova nexus]

Correct

We will never use Paypal for preorders, though perhaps one day for in-stock orders

[valid comet]

And there is a black Zinc Alloy?

[waxen turret]

Yes

[lunar arch]

@nova nexus will there be a wireless version of tkl 80he

[nova nexus]

No

[lunar arch]

Ty 👍

[amber merlin]

why is everyone soo obsessed with wireless keyboards

[low token]

@nova nexus can I use 60he cable with 80he?

[low token]

No cables

[nova nexus]

Yes

[low token]

Knob users are weird

[amber merlin]

welp

[valid comet]

You could probably do some very cool modding stuff using a daughter board, but no it cannot.

[valid comet]

Thanks 🙃

I dont know how its possibke to use an f row-less or arrowless board

[waxen turret]

Do you mean Volume knob, on some boards you can use it to do cool stuff.

[valid comet]

Any knob im sure

I much like the knobs

But its not a make or break feature

[marble ruin]

@low token knob is good u can use it in some programs to adjust stuff , movement for timeline if u edit etc. Also its often over few keys u anyways dont use

[real gulch]

does the 80he use the same leds as the 60he?

[buoyant solstice]

I would imagine so.

[real gulch]

hm okay

a wrgb led option would be cool

[high ether]

I feel ur pain

[waxen turret]

Well there plenty of other options to choose, but PayPal is so much more convenient in my opinion.

[jolly tangle]

5 more days

[tight cypress]

18 more

[low token]

Why 18?

[tight cypress]

Paycheck's on 28th

[tacit garden]

Gaming from long distance of big screens

[high ether]

ermmm actually it's about to be 4 days !!!!! 🤓

[jolly tangle]

if u ping me in my sleep again.

read the rules

[tight cypress]

@jolly tangle

Good night

[haughty cedar]

3

[velvet wren]

will wooting 80he be published in 3 days?

or is only the campaign?

[tight cypress]

Will be available to preorder, so only campaign

Keyboards will be shipped somewhere during late summer

[velvet wren]

oooh

ty!

i wanted to order my wooting 60he this march 18 but the page was updated several times to "earlyand late of april"

[tight cypress]

Yeah, and the shipping date will move constantly, as batches are being sold out
If you order 60he now, you'll be assigned to the batch which checkout tells you, and you will get your keyboard around the date checkout tells you, so mid/late April for now
If you order later, you'll be assgned to later batch, get your keyboard even later, and so on...
So if you want to get 60he as fast as possible, then order now

[velvet wren]

😭 😭 my god, I would have known that before

[gleaming kelp]

Are there any 'real' pictures of the different case options? All I've seen so far - atleast to me, look like renders.

[tight cypress]

There will be more photos very soon

[gleaming kelp]

Great! Thanks

[astral fiber]

bruh, i ordered 60he like 10 days ago and got it in 3-4 days lol

[umbral locust]

you got lucky. As did I. I placed an order right before they got a batch and I had it in hand within a few days.

[astral fiber]

were so lucky hooly

[umbral locust]

Yeah most people end up waiting like 1-2 months

[hidden tulip]

why the 60he discuss chat got deleted? or am I blind?

[umbral locust]

glitch in the matrix

[hidden tulip]

crazyyy

[astral fiber]

If it was delayed, I wouldn't be able to have the keyboard because my cousin came here from Germany for 3 days and ordered the keyboard from there and brought it here.

too lucky

[lunar arch]

@nova nexus sir question will the 80he have all the keys ready with actuation points that can be changed to like 0.1. The reason I asked this question sir I currently own a steel series Apex pro 2023 TL and not all the keys are rapid trigger ready

I would like to use arrow keys

[real gulch]

all keys are the same

[lunar arch]

Meaning I can enable rapid trigger plus change actuation on arrow keys ?

[real gulch]

ye

[lunar arch]

Thank you sir

[winged birch]

Will the money “raised” be public like it was with the 60HE?

[real gulch]

would expect so

uwu is public too

[winged birch]

<$100K, $200K, $400K, $800K> BETS ARE OPEN!! 🤣🤣

[real gulch]

1000Million

[winged birch]

🙏

[lapis galleon]

1 GADZILLION!!!!!!

[pastel hearth]

going in RAW lezgo!!!

[winged birch]

Ayooo

Going with RAW.

That’s what you mean, surely.

[real gulch]

i have raw in my username

but i gotta resist

[winged birch]

raw could be sick

but either way they’ll be available separately too no it’s not a big deal.

[real gulch]

yee

did someone count the number of keys

[pastel hearth]

ANSI has 84

[void arch]

Does anyone know the price of wooting80he zinc alloy?

[low token]

It is on blog post. But if you want to know it is 330€

[void arch]

300＄？

[low token]

Yeah

Tho do you want RAW zinc?

[void arch]

Yeah

[void arch]

There is a white appearance option in the zinc alloy material, right?

[low token]

Yeah

[void arch]

Thanks bro

[dim pier]

Hi y'all. Will the 80he have adjustable polling rate through the software or it will be hardcoded to 8khz

[mortal tree]

Guys I am a KB n00b which switch that comes with the 80HE would be most similar to Cherry MX brown? I've been using them since the dawn of time.

[buoyant junco]

is there is any photos of the translucent white keyboard with RGB?

[violet dagger]

Is the 80he cable gonna be same color as the 60he with black and yellow or is it gonna be different now

[midnight iron]

Adjustable. You don’t have to use 8k if you don’t want to for some reason

[low token]

80he comes with Lekker l60 switch. They are linear

[mortal tree]

Thanks so more comparable to MX Red/Black?

[low token]

Well I guess?

[final ruin]

how much better is the 80he than the 60he+

[stoic jackal]

8x better

[low token]

If you want 8k pooling rate more buttons and gasket mount. Then it is better

[hearty sky]

200 dollars for a keyboard 💀

[low token]

So

[hearty sky]

?

[low token]

Well price is fair

[hearty sky]

Ahm

[final ruin]

i would love to support a company that provides great products and listens to their community for suggestions

[hearty sky]

True true

i love wooting too

[low token]

Company like that exists?

[final ruin]

only here😔

[grand ermine]

Does anyone know if silent lekker switches will be available during the campaign? Or if they are in development at all?

[low token]

Propably they will released after 80he is relesed

[obtuse wagon]

🤷‍♂️ guess we have to wait and see

[jade widget]

only $200 you mean

[hot sinew]

Make a special edition red case 🔥

[plain compass]

does wooting provide the in advance shipment for this type?

[midnight iron]

you mean pre-pay taxes type shipping?

[plain compass]

it was said on their shipping policy that i can ship my order in advance of completing all items in the batch that incur a shipping fee, does the policy also applied to this new 80he?

[midnight iron]

ah that you'll have to ask actual wooting staff since they'll know how the 80he store page will work

[low token]

If your order shipping destination is outside the European Union. Your order may be subject to taxes, duties and/or custom fees charged by the country of destination through the carrier.

It is from their website

[midnight iron]

he means breaking up the order to ship items that are in stock while waiting for out of stock items

[low token]

Oh they are sending everything together

[plain compass]

yeah i already email them but they havent reply since forever hahahahah, thanks tho for your replies

[midnight iron]

yeah takes awhile for non urgent email replies right now since they're still catching up on emails

[low token]

@plain compass where do you live

[plain compass]

us

[summer parcel]

the 80HE has per key rgb right

[winged birch]

Yes.

[lyric raptor]

anyone who know what's price about 80he

[winged birch]

$200/€220 for the plastic.

[obtuse wagon]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[winged birch]

You can check the pins for the other prices.

[lyric raptor]

How many months will it take for the earliest batch to be shipped?

[winged birch]

This summer

Maybe late summer.

[lyric raptor]

June?

[winged birch]

Around.

[buoyant solstice]

There is not an exact date yet. That's how preorders work. Delays can and will happen

[lyric raptor]

oky thanks

anyone who know Kevin tw

[buoyant solstice]

Kevin's a good dude.

[winter coral]

So if you want to put a transparent case on the side, you can only use the option: I buy the assembled plastic version and upgrade to zinc at some point?

[midnight iron]

would depend on the transparent case you wanted, since if you wanted translucent white/clear then you'd need to do the kit instead of assembled

[winter coral]

yes ok, the complexity branch is still there too. but zinc will be sold as an upgrade later (it was written here somewhere).
You have to stay completely dark or light because of the coloured intermediate layer.

[midnight iron]

honestly i really hope someone does the pbtfans xray + white transparent combo

[winter coral]

"The bottom case foam is Latex rubber for white versions, EPDM for black versions"

[midnight iron]

want to see how it looks even if I don't go that combo

[midnight iron]

honestly that would be more preference to the person - some people might like a dark epdm inside a white case

[winter coral]

i really can't decide - with the data available to me at the moment. i need real pictures without studio light 🙂

[winged birch]

Yes. The ABS cases might be too but they’re not yet sure.

[winged birch]

I’m not sure if we’re gonna get that during the campaign. I’d hope so and a sound test too.

[carmine quail]

really wanna see a picture of the white translucent case, i feel like that colorway has a pretty fine line of being either pretty cool or very cheap looking

not just the case but I mean built right

since the white translucent module is the cheapest way to get a light case is 250 euros, which isnt cheap

[buoyant solstice]

Best we can do is renders at this time. Cause... keyboards don't exist outside of a few prototypes.

[carmine quail]

yeah, I hope they come out with some form of a real world picture of each case option, would make it so much easier to pick

[buoyant solstice]

Like I said...

[midnight iron]

there's been some staff photos of the white translucent

[midnight iron]

were prototype photos from past streams etc

@carmine quail

[sharp wharf]

Imagine if we get opaque white as color choice for plastic, would be nice...

[buoyant solstice]

Not for now.

[sharp wharf]

Yeah, kind of bummed it's not one of the choices for the Founders Campaign.

[marble ruin]

@sharp wharf more than enought choices u have

[carmine quail]

i mean it is what it is that theres not a matte white one, but im actually pleasantly surprised on the translucent one

its actually pretty good looking, not cheap

[proud portal]

I am not sure if it got asked already, but the price for the Module: is the 205€ with or without a case?

[tight cypress]

With the case, all modules come with either plastic or zinc case

[buoyant solstice]

We're talking about the 80HE?

[proud portal]

Yes

[buoyant solstice]

205€ is with a plastic case.

[proud portal]

So basically, "is it cheaper if I buy it in a diy kit cause labor cost was reduced" I guess

[buoyant solstice]

Module is slightly more expensive

[proud portal]

isnt that quite...illogical?

[buoyant solstice]

No. Because it is MORE labour and stocking costs.

[proud portal]

Well Storage is valid. Labor..meh I guess more labour outside of the production country probably yeah...meh since white seems to be an available kit anyway I might just get that one

[buoyant solstice]

Instead of putting it all together all at once, the factory has to put every component into separate packaging.

[hidden field]

guys does 'Wooting 80HE Zinc alloy ($300)' includes duty free international shipping?

[proud portal]

Nope

[hidden field]

aww fck

[proud portal]

I think no Keyboard company does that.

[buoyant solstice]

Every country is different.

[hidden field]

yes, maybe mouse can be done cause of small package.

[proud portal]

I mean sure if your country doesnt have a limit on import value you are save

[buoyant solstice]

We cannot fix import duties for every country on earth with the wave of a wand, as much as we'd like to.
EU, US, CA and UK are the only locations where we've sorted this on checkout.

For reference it took us about... six months? or more of back and forth with UK authorities to get that sorted out - with plenty of small test shipments to test if what they said was true, only for customer to be met with import fees anyway or a refused package.

[hidden field]

well, I'll just pay 350 for zinc then. cant miss this one hehehe

[wind tiger]

I kinda don't get the point of the module tbh

[dim sierra]

if u want mod u rather have it unassembled

[buoyant solstice]

Two? of the case options are module only, to keep down SKU.

[wind tiger]

ig

[carmine quail]

Its just so they can offer more options, keeping all the variants in stock is a logistical (and therefor financial) nightmare

[wind tiger]

I don't see how that is helped by adding more skus

[buoyant solstice]

Well for one it lets us add new case options down the road, and keep using the same base module.

Or if a third party case comes along.

[wind tiger]

I personally doubt there will be decent aftermarket cases from unrelated companies but

[proud portal]

I mean..judging from the 60HE KBDFans was doing some very nice case

The Keyboard market is not a small business ^^

[carmine quail]

yeah dont underestimate kbdfans, they will probably make something

[idle fern]

how many 80he max order 1 boxships

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on the courier and delivery country. Only one way to find out really. Checkout won't give you a courier option, if you go overweight.

You're not going to be able to order ten of them at once though.

[wind tiger]

1. i'd argue it is not that nice in the grand scheme of things
2. that was based on an already established "standard" and the original tofu released years before the 60HE

[midnight iron]

did they say yet if there's a clear coat on the raw zinc case to prevent it oxidizing?

[wind tiger]

zinc doesn't oxidize easily

[midnight iron]

it's a zinc alloy though so I assume it might still oxidize if there's alu in it

[wind tiger]

they plate steel with zinc to prevent oxidization

[wind tiger]

not under regular circumstances

aka, you either put it in a vacuum chamber or bring it up to temperatures of ~500C

[midnight iron]

hrm gotta decide if I go white zinc alloy or raw zinc alloy then get it cerakoted cream white

[wind tiger]

imo cerakote is a lot nicer than ewhite (also a lot mroe durable)

[midnight iron]

yeah i'm starting to lean towards raw + cerakote since I can always use the plastic smokey case until I get around to getting it done

[mental elm]

Is 80HE or 60HE better, and should I cancel my 60HE order and wait for the 80HE?

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on what matters to you.
Also do you mind waiting till (late) summer

[mental elm]

What's new with the 80HE?

[wind tiger]

besides layout, mounting etc, 8khz

[mental elm]

ohhh okkk

[wind tiger]

it would be more performant

[mental elm]

Im assuming not too big of an impact though

[wind tiger]

but pick whatever layout you prefer and whichever one fits your patience

[wind tiger]

very subjective question

[mental elm]

When do pre-orders start if you know? I recently got an order of two 60HE's just in case something happens to the other. Might revise my order to 1 and pre-order the 80HE if its available.

[buoyant solstice]

Website has a countdown and everything.

[mental elm]

Ok thanks! I'll have to check it out.

[ebon sluice]

Get both, you're going to need backup for that inevitable coffee spill

[mental elm]

It’s sprite for me lolll, cat ruined 2 ducky keyboards in a month. I’ve learned not to have drinks in sight while gaming anymore

😂

[ebon sluice]

[mental elm]

#🐱│pets the infamous cat

[winged birch]

The 60HE’s PCBA and I presume the 80HE’s too are coated. So if you have to spill a drink it’s better to do so on a Woot board that might survive still. 😂

[ebon sluice]

the most adorable cat I've seen today

[mental elm]

Hahahahha, good good. Going to come in handy 😂

[mental elm]

[plain atlas]

1 + 1 free switch pack?

What does that mean?

[buoyant solstice]

L60 preinstalled + L45 switch pack for free.
Module and you pick one set of switches, and you pick either an L45 or L60 pack for free.

[lunar arch]

Anyone here knows is zinc alloy heavy compared to the other models ?

[winged birch]

Why was the perk altered for the Module, do you know?

[buoyant solstice]

Altered?

[winged birch]

The Zinc Alloy case would be around 2KG.

[winged birch]

B1G1 free instead of free.

[buoyant solstice]

The module doesn't have preinstalled switches.

[lunar arch]

Thanks, and the other one ?

[winged birch]

It means you’d lose the perk if you’d want the Module alone.

[buoyant solstice]

Correct. Don't want switches, don't get free switches.

[winged birch]

ABS? No clue on it’s weight.

It’s such an odd choice to a point where it doesn’t make sense to buy.

[buoyant solstice]

What is

[winged birch]

The Module is.

Its pricing rather.

[mental elm]

Question, say I order the 60HE, and the Alumaze60 would i be able to swap the case?

[buoyant solstice]

Yourself? Sure. Just needs a screwdriver.

[mental elm]

Sounds good thanks! Might do just that. Need a all white clean look.

[tight cypress]

Makes sense - if you want to get switches, you can get both variants at once (and one of them for free), so you can pick and choose whichever you prefer

[mental elm]

Whooting detachable USB-C Coiled in white whennnnnnnnnn

If it does ima grab my hands on it so fast

[tight cypress]

soonnnnnnnnnn

[mental elm]

yassssss

So hard to find a good coil, all mine just dont stay in shape when arriving.

[lunar arch]

@tight cypress in your opinion will there be a queue system to order this 80he or we will all fight to get a spot buy it ?

[buoyant solstice]

No queue as such.

[tight cypress]

Batch system

[buoyant solstice]

But we will be producing X keyboards in an initial batch. Once all of those are spoken for, a 2nd (and 3rd and 4th etc..) batch are set up - which WILL be delivering later than earlier batches.

[winged birch]

To me and I’d think to most, it does not. Wouldn’t anyone rather have 180 V2 Lekker switches and PBT keycaps worth $125 for an extra $15?

[lunar arch]

After we place the order for FE will it be months before it ships ?

[buoyant solstice]

Not everyone, no. Not if they have zero use for them.

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - Expect (late) Summer.

[lunar arch]

My first time buying this do I need a Shopify account ?

[winged birch]

Sure, not everyone but most. You could give them away or sell them and you’d have your money back and more.

[pseudo parrot]

No but if you want to track the order progress, you can create a wooting hub account

[mental elm]

[buoyant solstice]

The option is there for you to use or not. It is entirely your prerogative.

[mental elm]

Whats the best mouse iyo to run with the wooting.

[flat portal]

anyone know the rough pricing for the 80he in australia? Would it be a similar price to the 60he+ and the twohe?

[winged birch]

It’s the only way to get the transparent white case. That’s the reason for my whole post yesterday. I don’t think people will notice what they’re missing out on and then be upset when they do.

[mental elm]

Im assuming around 450 or less. (Could be wrong) Im not good at usd conversion

[lunar arch]

What is the difference between wooting one TKL and 80HE

[winged birch]

That’s why stores mention the value often and the reason why best sellers sell best. 😉

[flat portal]

oh wow, definitely a lot higher than the 60 and two, will probably get one of those as they're just $270

[buoyant solstice]

You will specifically have to select the "No thanks, I don't want to include any switches, as I have my own" during the configurator.

[mental elm]

Looking at this, let me re-check for you.

[winged birch]

Still.

[mental elm]

Which one were you looking for?

[winged birch]

We’ll see how it goes I guess.

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-please-everybody-ahmed-aldoori-you-cant-make-everybody-happy-haters-gonna-hate-gif-18453818

[mental elm]

It will probably be around 300-400 AUD for the two models looking at it.

[winged birch]

There’s a reason why it’s common practice. That’s all I’m saying.

[flat portal]

i mean, the 80he is the perfect size for me, as 60 is too small but full size is too large, but a $200aud price increase is not worth it

[buoyant solstice]

....what

[mental elm]

Think it's only 100 increase i believe

I think i may have got the math wrong the first time

[winged birch]

Mentioning the value (in-store value) of certain options or products compared to others.

[buoyant solstice]

You lost me. Wait till the campaign opens, and the configurator is finalized.

[mental elm]

basically AUD is 100 more than usd so say (100USD) = (200AUD)

[winged birch]

👍

[flat portal]

ok well thats a little less bad, if im not mistaken it has a fair bit more features than the 60he and the twohe

[mental elm]

From what i heard yeahh, might pre-order one for myself. Going to test the 60HE first though.

[flat portal]

still way cheaper than the $600aud glorious gmmk pro

[mental elm]

hahah yeah

[flat portal]

wait so just so ive got this right, how much is the 60he in the us?

[mental elm]

pretty sure $200

[flat portal]

oh right, they're $260 here, so the 80he should be the same price

[mental elm]

Theres 2 80HE models one for 200 and one for 300 USD

[flat portal]

oh yeah sorry id be getting the barebones and adding my own keycaps

[mental elm]

hahha sameee

[flat portal]

definitely wanting to go for the cheapest possible one

[mental elm]

I feel you on that

[winged birch]

You’d have to add your own switches too, not only keycaps.

[flat portal]

dw i know :)

[winged birch]

👍

[silk hedge]

Will we be able to select jade switches during the founders campaing if we get the module or will that be implemented after release?

[buoyant solstice]

You will.

[burnt yacht]

Damn i have to research what switches i want aswell :0
Is jade the only new one coming to choose from?

[winter coral]

Lekker v2.x later the year

[burnt yacht]

Hoped would come with the 80HE. But that was just my wishful thinking.
Gotta have those when they release.
Guess I’m running L60 till then

[winter coral]

80HE will have 2.0 but they are working on further improvements or sidestep Like Silent. We dont know yet

[burnt yacht]

Ooh okay

[carmine quail]

silents so you can have a wooting at the office with bottom out key shortcuts

[dreamy sedge]

if you want wireless i would say razerviper v2 pro ( you can set up the mouse and delete the programm after that) or logitech gx pro superlight v1-2

[dense ridge]

@flat portalis the case of gmmk from methal?

[tight cypress]

[buoyant solstice]

Wax sealed case.

[upbeat berry]

i think they just cant spell metal due to not being a native english speaker

[tight cypress]

But yeah, GMMK Pro has CNC aluminium case

[wind tiger]

depends on which gmmk you mean

[dim pier]

You make it sound like it should be no brainer to use 8khz and in theory it seems like it but in practice there is no real benefit in using anything more than 1khz for the extra strain on the cpu that it puts

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-george-debatable-maybe-gif-17021365

[verbal iris]

will 80he be having screw in stabilizer

[buoyant solstice]

Yes

[midnight iron]

mostly because keyboards don't really put strain on the cpu like mice do

mice put strain on the cpu due to constantly updating x y coords while using high dpi to take advantage of the higher polling

[dense ridge]

@buoyant solstice@buoyant solstice is the zinc case a monolithic case or there is a seam in the middle of the case?

[dim pier]

thats becuz at and above 1.6k dpi mice achieve constant 4khz+ polling rate but so u r suggesting that the 80he will also not run at constant 8khz but rather it will vary depending on the usage?

[buoyant solstice]

[real gulch]

unless you use a superlight 2 lol

[dense ridge]

angry =)? why

[real gulch]

not the double @ 😭

[winged birch]

It’s comprised of a top and bottom, two pieces but I assume the seam is well hidden in it’s design.

[dim pier]

ofc with superlight2 this is not an issue becuz it doesnt support more than 2khz

[real gulch]

it does support 4khz

[midnight iron]

basically keyboards don't need to report all of those coords updates. It just has to verify if the switch is on or off and how pushed in the switch is

[winged birch]

I presume the KS-20U switches as well. As of now they’re not easily available to individuals. Gateron seems to rather sell to manufactures in bulk than to the individual.

[midnight iron]

which leads to much lower cpu tax on a keyboard with high polling

[buoyant solstice]

There's no need to ping me to ask a question. Just ask it, and someone (me or someone else) may be able to answer.

[verbal solar]

yup i emailed gateron about if they were planing on selling them on their website soon, they stated that they are not going to do that in the near future :/

[dim pier]

so does a mice, it sends the lastest x, y coordinates. with a keyboard the cpu still needs to poll every 0.125ms

[midnight iron]

i mean if you want to believe the keyboard will be as taxing you can - but it's already been debunked and explained before

keyboards aren't as taxing because it's not sending the same data as a mouse would need

[winged birch]

Gateron’s communication ranks among the worst of the worst. They said in January they will be selling the KS-20Us on their AliStore at the end of the month. I asked again, they said the same thing. Now they announced it on Twitter I believe but we’ll see if that ends up being true or not.

[dim pier]

can you send me a link to the ace where it was debunked

[tight cypress]

There's a difference between only polling and processing the received data
CPU can just poll and get an empty packet, no processing, no cpu usage

[verbal solar]

what have they posted on twitter mind sharing me the link?

[midnight iron]

i don't have link on hand, but it was repeated by wooting themselves in previous livestreams if you want to try find where it was explained again

[south plover]

yo i just got the wooting 60he and i wanna know the best keyboard settings for, fortnite,csgo,val games like that

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520
(Also the entirely wrong channel to ask in)

[winged birch]

The “release” of the KS-20Us. https://x.com/gateronofficial/status/1762063492478312786?s=46&t=uFrAs-7GGUduYiIB1-Qdbw

GATERON (@GATERONOfficial) on X

Introducing our latest innovation: Dual-rail Magnetic Orange Keyboard Switch. Get ready to experience it in mid-March! 🚀

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 10:34 AM

[south plover]

fair enough

[verbal solar]

link it to me in dm

[winged birch]

^

[verbal solar]

thanks

[obsidian zenith]

Will the Wooting TKL wristrest be appropriate for the 80HE?

[buoyant solstice]

We're making a new one specifically for the 80.

[obsidian zenith]

Awesome! Thanks 👍🏻

[south plover]

do the settings on the wooting website save for the keyboard after you close the website or do you have to keep it up while your playing?

[buoyant solstice]

If they're saved to the keyboard (top right of the Wootility), then they're on the keyboard.

[safe tundra]

Any idea when the design files would be up at the GitHub for the 80HE?
For folks who'd be into making a custom case, I mean.

[buoyant solstice]

Definitely post-release.

[safe tundra]

Ok. Is it possible you could tell me the maximum dimensions? (length, width and height)
I'd like to consider the piece of material I'd need to fit it inside.

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-no-idea-no-clue-clueless-no-idea-unsure-gif-15193386

I'm sure that information will be made available once the campaign starts.

[safe tundra]

Well.... thanks for your candor. 😛

[fallen forge]

low effort but that'll do

[rapid basalt]

I'm glad I discovered discord and this section. I'm getting a lot of info from this chat!!

[safe tundra]

What a homie! Thank you!

[winged birch]

They might make exceptions for manufacturers/companies but not for the individual.

[safe tundra]

Looks like I got what I needed.
I really only need the out side dimensions, to know if I can fit it on my machine

I'd need the files later to actually build it... but I know they were releasing them already

[winged birch]

On your machine? 😦

[fallen forge]

those are not exact measurements, btw, but i've tried to scale it up correctly according to the known measurement (keycap) so it should be good enough

[safe tundra]

It really is! You're so smart!

[fallen forge]

haha i wouldn't say so, but ty

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/bert-sesame-street-man-fainting-falling-faint-puppet-faints-gif-10367888337624471089

[fallen forge]

noice

[winged birch]

I wonder what the reason is for not yet releasing the files.

During campaign I mean, to those with an order.

[carmine quail]

they'll simply get leaked

I'm guaranteeing that whenever ppl get the files they will pop up somewhere

[winged birch]

Yeah and then?

People will use those files to create cases, plates and whatever.

Companies use those to do the same. Probably just for plates and not cases.

What’s would the issue be, that I don’t understand.

[pseudo parrot]

I am just speculating but maybe design is not finalized yet, so they’re gonna wait to be sure

[winged birch]

Could be but the cases for sure are.

[velvet hatch]

does the Zinc alloy version make it sound any different or is it just a more sturdy build

[winged birch]

If updates are to be believe that is 😉

[winged birch]

It’ll make the sound profile different. Like all dense materials do.

[velvet hatch]

you have the 60he in hand? how does that one preform for you?

[winged birch]

Performance is great but I do not have it stock.

The sound and feel stock is not fantastic but you can easily modify the 60HE.

[velvet hatch]

what modifications have you done to it to improve it?

[winged birch]

Different switches lubed, different case (but mainly use without case rn 💀), different stabilizers lubed. Did tape mod, removed it later.

[safe tundra]

To be clear....
This machine isn't MINE mine....
But my companies (they paid for it)

However, I spec'd it and all the tooling we have. And I am the only who is qualified and has ever run it.
The room is filled with my tools.

[safe tundra]

You use a 60HE ... WITHOUT a case?

[winged birch]

Access to it and knowledge about it is all that matters.

That’s so sick dude!

[winged birch]

Yes. I have cases but I do not like the sound with them. I’m trying to design a custom case for it instead of buying something generic.

[safe tundra]

That's great! Are you printing it?

How are you having it made?

[winged birch]

I’m still figuring out fusion 360, I have the design I want in my head but to get it as I want it takes quite some time. I’ll have it printed then CNC’d once I know I didn’t F any dimensions up.

[eternal blaze]

Why do I need to pay more in € for the 80HE?

[buoyant solstice]

VAT (sales tax) is included

[fallen forge]

probably vat/taxes/whatever import duties

[eternal blaze]

Thank you

[rapid basalt]

Question what does the discord role perk mean for the FE perk?

[nova nexus]

A fancy role like one of these

[rapid basalt]

Cool, tyty

[real gulch]

I know whose roles that are 😄

[rapid basalt]

Another question on the keycaps. Are the blacks shine thru? Are the whites shine thru?

[winged birch]

Both are.

[marble ruin]

still any info about jade switches price ?(based on that i want to choose between module/assembled)

[upbeat berry]

they will be on our store

[marble ruin]

but whats the price if i choose module

[upbeat berry]

im not even sure if you can choose jades in the bundle. pretty sure you will have to add them separately to the cart

maybe @nova nexus knows

[dim pier]

@upbeat berry Hi, is there size comparison between 60he and 80he?

[nova nexus]

Jades will be a valid option to add either as a separate product alongside a (preassembled keyboard with L60 switches) or as part of a module configuration.

[marble ruin]

@upbeat berry i fixed message i mistake i meant module thats why i need know price if its better buy jade + get 45L or just go for assembled with L45 and 60

[high current]

whoever at wooting decided it was a good idea to offer a raw zinc alloy case, you are the goat

[real gulch]

any expectation when the seperate version will be available?

[high current]

i will definitely be getting one to powder coat in a custom color

[marble ruin]

@high current u mean raw zinc and then apply color?

[high current]

yup

[marble ruin]

are there even good sprays for that?

[lapis galleon]

cerakote it

[marble ruin]

cause like miami blue would look insane to me

and i have LA akko keycaps set so best combo

[upbeat berry]

i dont think we will give an extra switch pack if people get jades as we have no influence on their price at all

[nova nexus]

We will offer a Founders' Campaign perk of a free L45 or L60 switch pack if a pack of Jades is purchased with the module

[marble ruin]

@upbeat berry ehm u changed plan on stream they said they will :/

[upbeat berry]

oh i guess i shouldnt sleep during meetings

[high current]

i'm gonna get sea foam green, like the Retro refrigerator Norbauer boards

[upbeat berry]

i didnt change anything as i said i dont think

[marble ruin]

@nova nexus is there any color spray that work good on zinc?

also will that affect warranty?

[lapis galleon]

for the case

[last wasp]

Are these free switches v2?

[nova nexus]

No idea

[nova nexus]

Yes

[midnight iron]

you'd need to sandpaper it down regardless of the metal material then do primer etc

[marble ruin]

so if i use porsche Rs miami blue car spray paint do u thinl its good idea?

[midnight iron]

probably look nice if you do a good paint job

i'm probably going to grab a raw zinc and do cerakote instead of spray paint myself

[lapis galleon]

yeah cerakote is probably a better idea. a bit more expensive but it'll last longer and feel and look better.

[real gulch]

make another white zinc lol

[low token]

White cerakote is possible?

[honest birch]

Damn I feel so lost, I want the new 80he but damn I don't understand the different options

[lapis galleon]

in what ways?

[honest birch]

Like the switches and cases I don't know what to take

[real gulch]

all of them 😼

[weary wren]

will there be a limited number available during the presale month? And I assume they charge that day and not when it ships in summer correct?

[midnight iron]

i'm doing cream i think

creamy retro white

[nova nexus]

Payment is charged at the point of purchase.
There is a limited amount per batch, but infinite batches.

[lapis galleon]

its all preference my friend. the zinc alloy case is heavier mainly, also different sound profile. the L60s and L45s just have different spring weights, while the jades sound a bit different due to a different design.

[midnight iron]

cerakote light sand seems to be closest to creamy retro white I could find

[real gulch]

not the creamy retro gun lol

[unreal tinsel]

is zinc alloy version just with a different case?

[honest birch]

Thanks bro

[last wasp]

Same case design, different material

[lapis galleon]

maybe one thats just a little bit more grey?

[marble ruin]

@nova nexus do i get it right doesnt matter which one i order to get first batch but there is for example 5000 limit so first wh order get it and more will go to second batch (exept people who buy more than 1 which go to second automatically ?)

[unreal tinsel]

hmm, i guess i will wait to see how it sounds

[lapis galleon]

more than 2 keyboards will go to batch 2 iirc

[unreal tinsel]

if its a similar situation as with 60he where it greatly benefits from a case upgrade, then i might go with the zinc alloy ver

[nova nexus]

Correct, all three layouts of the 4 case options plus the module (15 SKUs) will be part of the first batch

[midnight iron]

i have to lean towards white a bit to match retro game keycaps that are cream/off white

[last wasp]

Looking forward to this!

[lapis galleon]

yh but I feel like that one is a bit too saturated, most retro keycap sets I see are a bit more grey/beige

[midnight iron]

ah that's ibm retro, this is more game retro. It's these ones

[lapis galleon]

ah gotcha

[last wasp]

Dope

[lapis galleon]

yeah in that case it should fit well

[midnight iron]

cerakote is so pricy in korea though, but meh not many options for zinc alloy since you can't anodize it as easily

[lapis galleon]

you can order free swatches iirc, just to see before you fully commit

[last wasp]

Does the 80HE module option include travel case if we choose PCR case? Or does this only come with Zinc case?

[lapis galleon]

both case types

[pseudo parrot]

wait nevermind i was wrong

[last wasp]

That is cool if it comes with both options

[tough mauve]

how long will the founder campaign be

[nova nexus]

32 days

[fathom dagger]

me about to spend $100 for a white zinc case B)

[nova nexus]

This is the way

[pseudo parrot]

cant blame you, it looks so nice haha

[velvet hatch]

for games like fortnite will I feel a huge difference coming from regular brown switch keyboard in input delay?

[real gulch]

or will it be available before the 80he's get send out?

[tough mauve]

well 8k polling will be nice and you can set the actuation points for your keys

[lime falcon]

im so disappointed that there is no white plastic case

[lapis galleon]

yeah probably

maybe not a huge difference, but it will probably feel quite a bit more responsive

[velvet hatch]

i feel like the adjustable actuation and rapid trigger is where im going to really feel it right? never had a keyboard with those features so interested to see how it would feel

[lime falcon]

Yes

It will feel way more responsive especially in fortnite

[low token]

@nova nexus founders batch is unlimited?

[velvet hatch]

bet appriciate the info excited for the 80 to come out, how long until they start shipping? is it a month after campaign

[lime falcon]

in the summer

iirc in june

[nova nexus]

The batches have limited quantity, but there are an infinite number of batches

[nova nexus]

Aiming to deliver to customers starting in August

[velvet hatch]

if i want to be apart of the campaign am i able to change shipping address later down line since im prob moving before then

[buoyant solstice]

Up until it is submitted to be packed and shipped, yes

[arctic ice]

will they come as one big batch first that sends out to everyone in founders campaign or do you go by pre order order kinda thing like who orders first gets first

[nova nexus]

Batches are allocated at the time of purchase, in a first come first serve basis

[arctic ice]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-the-boys-smile-gif-18692019

[hearty sky]

Just wanted to ask .. after the founders campaign gets completed .. will price gets effected ??

[lime falcon]

no

[hearty sky]

Okay

[nova nexus]

Exception to this is B2B orders that will not be part of the first batch; consumers come first

[analog grail]

Just gotta get the matching white wrist rest with it

[knotty nacelle]

Is there a local pricing?

[low token]

You are outside eu?

[sage reef]

think would be nice with some special little keycap pack that focuses on those that want JIS layout coming from ISO or ANSI (because of some advantage they see with it, those using ISO would get big left Shift, those using ANSI would get cool ISO Enter, and both would just get more buttons in general, nice smaller spacebar, etc).
this set could include extra JIS 1.0u Backspace keycap, some blank keycaps (that you use to make some extra keys do nothing and look good), and no-bump J and bump K, if you want to shift home row position (because of far placed right Shift and also really backspace, more centered and etc)

[knotty nacelle]

UK mate

[knotty nacelle]

I mean, no

[low token]

https://wooting.io/policies/shipping-policy

[buoyant solstice]

The UK is indeed outside of the EU.

[knotty nacelle]

In Europe as a continent

[buoyant solstice]

The UK isn't part of the continent, mate. It's a series of islands innit

[sterile walrus]

Cor blimey

[buoyant solstice]

Anyway - The UK is one of few places that have import duties included in the checkout. There are no sudden surprise payment requests once the package reaches your country.

[sterile walrus]

You're that the taxation has proper representation?

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/mulan-tea-pouring-tea-spill-spilling-tea-gif-18110047078847633452

[knotty nacelle]

Google says '' north-west of mainland Europe''

[lunar arch]

i will be getting up early to order this

[low token]

What you are ordering

[mortal aurora]

does anyone know how much the base version will cost in pounds?

[winged birch]

$200 to pounds which would be roughly the price excluding vat and shipping

[low token]

I think vat is 20%

[winged birch]

Then add vat ^ and that’d be roughly the full cost.

[mortal aurora]

Fair thank you!

[low token]

Something around that

[low token]

[winged birch]

import duties are separate from vat

and shipping

[low token]

Well yeah

[buoyant solstice]

Not for the UK.

[winged birch]

Oh

[buoyant solstice]

Canada as well. Both have the checkout amount be the full amount.

We've been able to set up the required paperwork for customs to be automatic.

[winged birch]

Yeah so it’s already included in the price

[shell sable]

what happened to the wooting 60he channel

[low token]

Cool. So for each eu country we have diffrent vat or we have to pay only netherlands 21%?

[buoyant solstice]

Archived for posterity

[winged birch]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1215245679895777351

[winged birch]

Different I’d presume, there are a few with higher tax than in The Netherlands

[lunar arch]

can someone tell me where can i find more information on Wooting one (legacy) TKL ?

[nova nexus]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wooting/the-analog-mechanical-keyboard-for-precise-movemen

[lunar arch]

thank you sir as always

[versed agate]

Is the 80HE worth it?

[lunar arch]

Yes 100%

[lapis galleon]

yes

[bold ice]

waiting for the 80he what date can we expect`?

[haughty hull]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[buoyant solstice]

Sometime (late) Summer.

[knotty nacelle]

There is a timer

[midnight iron]

Hrm new plan @lapis galleon - light titanium cerakote for 2nd case

Find a very light titanium colorway that seems to match pretty well

[lapis galleon]

could look pretty nice

depends on the keycap set tho

[midnight iron]

Yeah has to be with right keycap set but very unique case color if you fit to the right keycaps

[safe tundra]

For anyone who cares.... here is a rough size comparison between the 60HE and the 80HE based on @fallen forge s earlier work with scaling the 80's images against known key cap sizes.

[slate lantern]

Since the site displays prices in my local currrency (EU country that doesn't use Euro), does it mean that I get charged exactly the amount that is stated? Or is it simply an estimate, with the real conversion being done by my bank?

[nova nexus]

You are charged the exact amount shown in your local currency

Shopify handles the currency conversion and charges somewhere between 0.5% and 2% depending on the currency, if I recall correctly

[slate lantern]

Oh that's nice

[unreal compass]

will we be able to pre-build our keyboard to see the diffrent options a bit esier ? before release ❤️

[marble jewel]

Check my order

[neat hatch]

😱😱😱

[jolly tangle]

🦀 🦀 🦀

[safe tundra]

I don't know what you are trying to convey.

[neat hatch]

Excitement.

[safe tundra]

Oh!
.....
THEN HELL YES BROTHER!!!

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-rock-and-roll-guitar-gif-7294596

[tulip swallow]

We can order the 80 He the 14 march ?

[fickle silo]

Ye

Pre order

[tulip swallow]

Because I have order a 60 he + but you think better to cancel my order ?

[jolly tangle]

you know the 80he doesnt come out till august/sept

its a "pre order"

[tulip swallow]

Arden you Will pré order ?

[jolly tangle]

yes because I already have a 60he

[tulip swallow]

Hmm ok pré Oder give free switch lekker i think

Thanks Arden for your answer

[tight cypress]

Free pack of switches

[sterile walrus]

Are we paying the full amount for the preorder or just a percentage

[tight cypress]

Full amount, up front

[sterile walrus]

The GMK business model I see

[hot sinew]

add a tape mod to the 80he

[low token]

You can mod it your self

[hot sinew]

for 300 it better come with at least a tape mod lol

[cursive pumice]

have they thought about making a making a renewed version of the 60he that comes with 8000hz

[primal dew]

In the future prob

[lapis galleon]

tape mod doesnt even do anything

just do it yourself, its not that hard anyways

[acoustic galleon]

hey guys is it possible to change my order from a 60he into an 80he since my order hasnt been shipped or fulfilled?

[tight cypress]

Sure, you can cancel you 60he order and preorder 80he, just keep in mind that 80he will be delivered somewhere in late summer

[acoustic galleon]

ok thanks for the heads up ill stick with my order then

I just got an email saying to confirm my address but when i go to confirm my order and ship, the button is greyed out what should i do?

[umbral locust]

Put your order on hold and message support about cancelling because you want to wait for the 80 instead.

[acoustic galleon]

XD

is it that much better

[umbral locust]

Oh wait my bad I misread lmfao

[acoustic galleon]

the upgrade that is most interesting is the polling rate

[tight cypress]

What is your current order status?

[acoustic galleon]

it says ready to ship but its is greyed out once i try to confirm it

[tight cypress]

Oh yeah, check the checkbox

[acoustic galleon]

nvm im retarded

[tight cypress]

[acoustic galleon]

yup just saw it

[umbral locust]

Average wooting customer moment

[gusty vessel]

No azerty layout in founders?

[bitter vector]

Only ansi, jis, iso

[tight cypress]

AZERTY is ISO-FR, which will be available during campaign

[bitter vector]

In my mind i was like Yeah isn't azerty just iso

Kekw

[icy wharf]

Hey uhm what will be the difference between the wooting 80he and the 60HE+?

[tough mauve]

80he is slightly bigger and 8k polling

[icy wharf]

how much polling does the 60HE+ have?

[low token]

1k

[tough mauve]

1k

[icy wharf]

damn so there will be a big difference?

do you recognize that while gaming?

[tough mauve]

well if you play games where input lag is bad

[icy wharf]

valorant?

[tough mauve]

your inputs register much faster with 8k polling so I think it would be good

personally haven't used 8k polling before

[low token]

Just play cs at this point

[icy wharf]

I don't know actually....I have no clue about anything

[icy wharf]

wdym?

[low token]

Cs is better

[icy wharf]

it is thats true

[tough mauve]

latency goes from 1 ms to 0.125 ms

[icy wharf]

but still....Such games recognize that higher polling rate?

[tough mauve]

it is just how fast your keyboard checks for inputs

[vapid storm]

it doesn't matter as much in a keyboard, the difference is really negligible. the biggest difference maker is still the fast actuation and rapid trigger, 8khz polling is just extra

[icy wharf]

so if I buy a keyboard...is it worth to pay 100 extra?

cause the 80HE is 100$ more

[mint sequoia]

For an average player it is beyond negligible.

[tough mauve]

well you get more keys and 8k polling but if you really dont need a bigger keyboard just buy 60he

[mint sequoia]

Just pick the layout you’d like haha.

[vapid storm]

I would decide based on your preferences, do you like the form factor, do you need arrow keys, do you like a smaller or a bit bigger keyboard etc

[icy wharf]

The problem is I do not really have preferences....I only know that the 80HE is better but I don't know if the 100$ are good spent

[vapid storm]

and I'm arguing that the "betterness" is not really set in stone, it's more about what you want in a keyboard

[jolly tangle]

nobody does except for the 0.01 %

[safe tundra]

It's not a "mod" if it comes with it.....
And I really don't understand how folks justify taping the bottom of a PCB to be a "mod"
There is no modification...... it's tape.

[tough mauve]

you have to know that yourself, just pick the layout if you can't choose

[jolly tangle]

gl on your choice 🙂

[mint sequoia]

They are both going to be capable boards. The extra 0.875ms input delay savings will be negligible to large majority of people. It’s really whether you want the extra keys.

[icy wharf]

hmm okay..But the 8k is the only technical difference?

[jolly tangle]

I recommand to read the blogs

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[low token]

Well if you want lowest delay. Get 4090 500hz display and 80he

[mint sequoia]

500hz 144hz is still more than enough for me.

[low token]

Well more Hz and fps = less delay

[mint sequoia]

I agree with that.

[low token]

So if you want pump 500fps all time.. you need high end pc

[icy wharf]

hahaha I don't need that low delay...I am just thinking

bruh just saw that the 80HE just costs 20$ more

The PCR Version

[digital rapids]

You forgot anout the cpu

[fallen epoch]

7800x3d fo sure

[safe tundra]

Really thinking about a new PC build featuring that cpu

[fallen epoch]

its a great one

[indigo kestrel]

Why everyone hyping up the 3d cpus all of the sudden

Never heard of them much but lately but seems like everyone is talking about them now

[safe tundra]

I don't know about everyone.... but when I decided to build a new pc and started researching.... I came across this Linus vid;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj4gn7od0jY

[indigo kestrel]

Yeah im super out of the loop when it comes to pcs. My information is from like 2021 lol

[fallen epoch]

games love cache

[mint sequoia]

Felt that. I’m still rocking a cpu from 2018.

[safe tundra]

I just dont have a good idea of how future proof it is. And that's my hesitation

[indigo kestrel]

Im still on that ryzen 5 3600 lol. Not hard to guess when I built mine haha

[mint sequoia]

I’m on a Ryzen 7 2700x 💀💀

Still kicks some ass these days

Kinda surprised

[fallen epoch]

neat, im on a 12600k atm

[indigo kestrel]

Yeah I gotta upgrade mine since I got a rx 6700xt for a good deal. R5 3600 kinda bottlenecking

[mint sequoia]

I went from the 1070 I got when I built my PC to a 3070ti. I’m barely at a bottleneck 🗿

[indigo kestrel]

1070 is a beast. Iconic card

[mint sequoia]

Ran my VR games like a champ haha

[haughty cedar]

2

[safe tundra]

3

[steep path]

during campaign, will cases be available as add-ons? i.e. get both zinc and transluscent cases without buying multiple modules?

[hot sinew]

sounds a lot less hallow and why would it not be a mod if it comes with it what kinda dumb logic is that? lol

[hot sinew]

if its not common on other keyboards but makes it sound better its a mod

[safe tundra]

Why are you being rude? I stated my opinion that I don't think taping something together is a modification.....
And if it comes from the factory... is is not, by definition, a modification to the design.
In any case... you what, want them to provide you with a roll of tape?

[hot sinew]

razer has done it with their recent keyboard they added a tape mod and it sounds good, and it costs less than the wooting with more demand, at 300 a tape mod to make it sound better is the least they can do

so many other companies are starting to make HE keyboards and the only reason its not getting more attention is bc their software sucks wooting just made a better software

[winged pelican]

no it's because wooting already took position as the de facto gamer keyboard with actuation points & rapid trigger

most people don't consider alternatives esp in such a niche thing

[hot sinew]

the apex pro tkl is almost the same with a mid software if it was better it wouldnt be a comparison tbh

[mint sequoia]

drunkdeer has shit switches and their software is also ass.

[lime falcon]

what wouldnt be a comparison?

apex pro feels like ass

[lime falcon]

some people like those switches more than wooting, mostly osu players idk why.

[mint sequoia]

i own both the razer huntsman mini analog and the drunkdeer a75.
just not a huge fan of either of them.

[lime falcon]

are u getting 80he?

[mint sequoia]

Yep.

[lime falcon]

im also considering it but idk yet

[winged pelican]

I'm buying 100% 🙂

if I can figure out how to add my company info in the accounts section...

[mint sequoia]

I like the 75% layout I currently use, but 60% fits better on my desk, but I'll most likely use both the 80he and 60he depending on what my work flow is for the day.

[fallen epoch]

im gettin zinc alloy

[lime falcon]

yea same, but if i get 80he i dont think i will keep 60he

[winged pelican]

black zinc alloy 💋

[fallen epoch]

you know it

[lime falcon]

white case

not translucent

[winged pelican]

white looks dope but i don't want to re-do my entire setup to white

[fallen epoch]

its ok theres 2 churches, you will be galdy accepted by sno | jed

[lime falcon]

i meant plastic case, its only translucent white, which to me looks so cheap keyboard from alibaba.

[mint sequoia]

My setup is generally a mix of black and white, but adding a bit of color wont clash with either of those two colors, so case color for me is really just preference.

[fallen epoch]

mines a brown accented setup so black just makes sense

[winged pelican]

it's sad it's wired though; I'm looking for a logitech g915 lightspeed alternative

[still dawn]

whats the difference between the pcr and the zinc alloy?

[winged pelican]

plastic vs zinc alloy

[lime falcon]

case

[mint sequoia]

Polycarbonate vs zinc alloy.

[still dawn]

big difference or no?

[mint sequoia]

typing experience.