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[lapis galleon]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[tiny tartan]

That table doesn't answer my question

[nova nexus]

No, the buy-1-get-1-free switch pack that comes with the kit version can only be one of the Lekker switch options

[tiny tartan]

Thanks. The wording was confusing during the live stream

[nova nexus]

Yea my brain's a little fried this late on a Friday 😅

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/chic-lobotomy-trash-gif-26319614

[tiny tartan]

So is the wrist rest discounted if we bundle it

[midnight iron]

Will be nice to have the free extra switches for transferring what I don’t use to upgrade 60he honestly

[midnight iron]

That’s a good question actually. I remember my 60he had the discounted wrist rest when I ordered it together

[nova nexus]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think so. It would be the same 10% as with other products. I expect that would be true too for the detachable cable.

[warm violet]

what is the best config guys can someone help me in mp ?

[nova nexus]

Please don't ping me for a question like that

#1019723042244534282

[high ether]

Lol

[warm violet]

mb

sorry

[tiny tartan]

Dang till end of summer

[high ether]

Wow I can't wait to get my 200 dollar discord role

[buoyant solstice]

Don't forget you get a cool, free keyboard with it!

[fallen epoch]

keyboards a bonus

[low token]

Wait what thats true?

[nova nexus]

Discord role is the best perk, hands down

[fallen epoch]

can agree

[high ether]

Yep only buying for the discord role

[tiny tartan]

Ya a few things

[steady escarp]

so is knob gonna be revealed during campagn I guess

or is that knob just a rumour

[lament saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/its-classified-tom-cruise-classified-private-secret-gif-9579704

[cobalt pawn]

Can someone explain difference between plastic and zinc cases?

[nova nexus]

Sound and heft

(and cost)

There's some pictures floating around

[main dust]

Is there a summary of the stream?

[nova nexus]

The plugin I used previously doesn't seem to work

[high ether]

Tomorrow there's going to be a video summary

[lunar arch]

@nova nexus when can we pre order this beast

[nova nexus]

Next week

[lunar arch]

Yes yes

[last wasp]

5 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes

[high ether]

Bruh

[lament saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/dude-starlord-gif-14170817

[lunar arch]

Is there a limit on the first order like limited qty I need to know ow if I have to get my village to pre order

[high ether]

Ur village???

[lament saffron]

There is a limit on the 60HE so Im sure there will be on the 80HE as well. Ask @nova nexus

[lunar arch]

That was a joke

[lime falcon]

minecraft village

[lament saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/vlak-vlak-u-snijegu-mato-lovrak-lovrak-song-gif-12351055

[high ether]

All the villagers

[nova nexus]

There is a weight limit per shipment, yes

[lunar arch]

Ugh I need an army of chat gpt bots to order this

[nova nexus]

And if you order more than a couple keyboards, you will be automatically pushed into the second batch instead of the first

B2C gets to get their keyboards first, then B2B

[high ether]

Oof

[lament saffron]

Its not FCFS so no need to involve the AI overlords. Just pre-order when it opens.

[lunar arch]

Thanks but are there limited qty produced meaning. Only 5k for first batch or something like that

[nova nexus]

The first batch does have a limited quantity, but it's a big number

[lunar arch]

Certainly sir I was only kidding

[high ether]

Gotta make sure to buy the jis version

[lunar arch]

Ty

[nova nexus]

I expect it to sell out before the end of the campaign, even excluding B2B, but not within a few days

When the first batch fills up, new orders will go into the second batch, then the third, etc

[low token]

So founders EU and NA will get keyboards before reviewers?

[nova nexus]

Reviewers are not B2B

[lunar arch]

@nova nexus are there pre orders to be shipped immediately or there is a 4 month wait ?

[nova nexus]

Keyboards need to get built before they can be shipped

[cobalt pawn]

What are the nuances between 80he and 2he other than the size and amount of keys? Since from what I see 80he is a little more expensive?

[nova nexus]

Gasket mounting and 8k polling/scanning are the two big ones

There's youtube videos up explaining both of those

[marble ruin]

will white zinc option have white cable ?

[nova nexus]

And some other stuff like swappable feetsies

[cobalt pawn]

Are the news whether we can buy more sizes of feetsies by wooting?

[nova nexus]

I don't expect that, no

80HE comes with all the different sizes

[cobalt pawn]

oh nice

As of currently there arent any plans for alumaze for 80he,right?

[nova nexus]

Correct

Takes too long to machine at scale

[buoyant solstice]

But the Zinc case option is sort of a comparable item.

[cobalt pawn]

That's fair

[nova nexus]

Difference is that it is cast out of molten metal instead of cut away by a CNC machine

[cobalt pawn]

I'm probably getting my keyboard in Summer so no rushings really

Ty for assistance Akbar, I appreciate it

[nova nexus]

[shell heath]

the founder perks is in 5 days?

[nova nexus]

You'll need to Wait

[marble ruin]

So knob was rumour ?

[silk hedge]

Tba

[nova nexus]

Founders perks include a discord role, a free pack of Lekker switches with every prebuilt (buy one get one free for the module version) and all founders get their name on the website

[low token]

Name or nickname they choosed?

[nova nexus]

First name, last name, or discord handle

Defaults to anonymous

[low token]

So we can choose

[marble ruin]

and if i do prebuilt buy lekler 45 and then i can just choose jades Gateron for free ?

[nova nexus]

Yes, via the Wooting Hub

[silk hedge]

Can you choose the colour of the preinstalled pbt keycaps if you get a assembled keyboard?

[nova nexus]

No, Jades are excluded from the free switch option because we don't control pricing/cost

[low token]

Oh so if I connected to dc it is already in discord handle mode right?

[nova nexus]

Preinstalled black plastic, translucent smoky, and black zinc come with black PBT keycaps, white zinc comes with white PBT

[nova nexus]

It will still default to anonymous unless you specifically give permission to share your name or handle

[low token]

Oh ok

[silk hedge]

So you cant get a preinstalled black zinc with white keycaps for example unless you go with the module correct?

[nova nexus]

Correct

But if you do go for the module, you'll be able to pick from all 6 case options

[arctic ice]

It takes longer to ship if you opt for module during founders campaign correct?

[nova nexus]

No

[arctic ice]

module it is then

[marble ruin]

@arctic ice the thing is module at this point even better value considering they add 10 extra for it if i get it right so price difference between assemble doesnt look big from what i see

[tiny tartan]

why include the travel case on the plastic kit? it could've been cheaper lol

[marble ruin]

@tiny tartan where they said travel case?

[nova nexus]

Our goal isn't to sell the cheapest keyboards, but the best products we can

[marble ruin]

@tiny tartan oh ok nice

[tiny tartan]

i want the cheapest bundle. not the cheapest keyboard

included travel case adds extra cost for no reason

[nova nexus]

My response was a bit sharp, apologies for that

But the pricing strategy allows us to offer the best overall package

[waxen turret]

Is it already known when we get the 3D files to make our own case.
My Idea is to build the 80HE with a custom case right when the DIY Kit arrives.

[nova nexus]

We typically wait to provide design files until the products deliver

That may be different for the case this time, given that we want to have 3rd party cases, but I'm not entirely sure

[waxen turret]

OK, is it possible to get the 3D Files directly from you individually after the preorder?

[nova nexus]

They would be hosted on the Github page

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

[tight cliff]

Is there any pictures of the colours? 🤔

[fading goblet]

wooting

[lament saffron]

Mark isn't the provider of the cad files and he is swamped right now so I'll reach out to the right contact and see if I can get you some more info. Just remind me in a few days

[waxen turret]

Thanks, a lot, Ill hit you in a few days.

[tiny tartan]

best package for consumer or for the company?
not including the travel case would be best package imo and just have a discount for case purchased with the bundle

[weak cosmos]

Do we know the price of 80he?

Any predictions?

[lyric nymph]

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[tiny tartan]

ya we do

[nova nexus]

For the company, so that we can continue creating the best products for the consumer for years to come

[tiny tartan]

fair enough. thanks for being honest, i respect that

[arctic ice]

this is the best approach a company could have

[tight cliff]

How about the add-ons? Will one be able to get them during the founders period?

[shell heath]

The countdown in the web for what is?

[tribal trail]

How will the founders campaign work

[tribal trail]

The founder’s campaign where preorders will begin

[shell heath]

so it comes with the Founder perks right?

[tight cypress]

Order keyboard, wait until it's released, get keyboard

[arctic ice]

Is there a showcase of zinc case anywhere?

[tardy goblet]

Im trying to throw my money at the screen but nothing happens 😦

[tribal trail]

Ok so it’s just a preorder campaign then cool

[tight cypress]

Yup, but you also get perks with your keyboard

[tribal trail]

Will there be only a set amount of keyboards that are available

[tight cypress]

Nope, the batch will just get bigger

[tribal trail]

Hell yes I’m hyped

[tiny tartan]

have y'all decided which bundle you are getting?

[tribal trail]

Where can you see different bundles

[tiny tartan]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[shell heath]

i know in pin says but if i buy the keyboard in founder campaign:zinc case white switches prob lekkers v2 module no keycaps it comes with the founder perks?

is for make secure

[tribal trail]

Assembled zinc black fs

[tight cypress]

If you order keyboard during campaign you'll get perks
Don't worry, it's 32 days

[shell heath]

ok <3 now is any image in white or raw zinc?

[arctic ice]

should be like an hour or two so we can feel super special who will make it

[tiny tartan]

i'm going translucent smoky, the rgb looked pretty cool when they showcased it. not sure if assembled or kit. leaning more towards assembled.

[tight cypress]

If it's going to be like with UwU, then one huge batch, but I guess we'll see in the future

[shell heath]

but when is the founders campaign? in 5 days right?

[tiny tartan]

ya 5 days

[shell heath]

me too wanna see but prefer irl image not render

[nova nexus]

The first batch of keyboards does have a limited quantity, as does every batch. I do expect the first batch to be fully sold prior to the completion of the founder's campaign. Therefore, if you wait to purchase until the end of the campaign, you can still be a founder but end up allocated to a later batch.

[arctic ice]

hope there will be a reveal of zinc case and mayby sound test

[shell heath]

i have a white/black setup with tints brown/green (natural wanna see if the raw zinc can combine)

[nova nexus]

There will be goregous pictures on the store for the launch

They're already ready, I'm just holding back 😛

[tiny tartan]

did y'all show or talk about the new wrist rest today?

[nova nexus]

Did talk about wrist rest in the capacity that it will exist, did not show any pictures or indicate that the wrist rest will be a different design than the current style

[calm wyvern]

any pics of the white options?

[nova nexus]

All of the cases except the raw zinc have been shown in the various videos Calder has done

[winter coral]

I hate that on graphic cards - Review and Order same day…

[nova nexus]

Yes

[shell heath]

ansi iso and jis same price right?

[nova nexus]

Yes

[winter coral]

Give me all Info in advance that I can Order in peace 😎

[shell heath]

i see before the new lekkers v2 o smt like that .any video for see how it sound with different cases (srry bad eng)

[nova nexus]

There will not be a sound test with the new switches available at launch, as far as I know

I could be wrong on that though

[tribal trail]

The kits are a lot cheaper compared to the price difference between the 60he and 60he+

[nova nexus]

Part of that is that the 60HE+ and the 60HE+ module are more different than the difference between the prebuilt and the kit version of the 80HE

The 60HE+ module includes a PC plate instead of a steel plate, and includes screw-in stabilizers instead of plate mounted

[tribal trail]

You said there will be no sound test but since they are lekker switches they will sound somewhat same

Right?

Also they are liner switches right?

[nova nexus]

Presumably, at least to my ears

[tiny tartan]

what color are the keyboard leg things gonna be?
matching keyboard? or color coded by size

[nova nexus]

I think all grey but I don't know

[shell heath]

I've seen many videos of people who don't like the current sound of the lekkers v1 and I'm afraid I won't get the jades that I've heard in several videos and I really like them a lot

[calm wyvern]

will white be available at launch?

[nova nexus]

Yes, check the pins for all the deets

[tribal trail]

They sound like linear switches to me from the videos I’ve seen

[tiny tartan]

in lekker v2 we trust

[shell heath]

and another question about the lekkers v2 is it known how many grams of force they are if 45 or 60 and if they will continue to be linear?

[nova nexus]

They will match our current switch offerings; 45 and 60 gram force and linear

[tribal trail]

In any case I care more for performance than sound cause I’ll never hear them with my headset on anyway

[jolly tangle]

mark since the founders get a free switch pack

are these the prices for the founders in your pin

[winged birch]

No sound test before/at the start of the campaign?!

[nova nexus]

Perhaps Calder has one up his sleeve, I do not

[shell heath]

I'm sure I'll buy the lekkers v2 mostly because I guess they will be the ones that will go better with the module in the sense of functions with the software but im scare of sht sound so thats why

[nova nexus]

The prices listed in the pin are the ultimate price paid for each of the component parts, after discounts are considered

[winged birch]

He better 😁

[tiny tartan]

ya i feel that lmfao

[lapis galleon]

switch selection is in the works so it doesnt really matter which switch you choose at this point

[tiny tartan]

i think on their previous video they said they are working on making them sound better

[nova nexus]

Example: the 90 pack of switches are listed as $25 in the pinned post, but will retail on our store at $50 and get discounted when bought with the 80HE by 50%, like they are with the 60HE+ module

[tiny tartan]

so thats good copium

[winter coral]

Silent lekker v3 Dual rail - that would be awesome

For christmas plz

[shell heath]

45g or 60g the new lekkers v2? linear-tactile-clicky?

[digital rapids]

He will always be linear

[nova nexus]

Linear, 45g and 60g options

[desert quest]

If I want the zinc black case, there would’nt be a difference in what you get whether I buy the assembled or the kit version, am I right? (sry for this question)

[winter coral]

Please take in consideration silent ones - be the First one on the market.

[shell heath]

last thing but I would like to have the strap of the 60he will the 80he have it?

[nova nexus]

There is a difference; the kit version comes at a 10 dollar/euro premium due to the additional logistical and packing costs

[muted relic]

can anyone translate the two switch options into laymans terms for a kb noob like myself?
my current kb has cherry reds, will the 45g and 60g options feel equivalent or heavier?

[nova nexus]

But if you for example had your own keycaps and wanted Jade switches instead of L60s, then the savings for going the module+black zinc more than make up for the added kit premium

[nova nexus]

Cherry reds are roughly the same as our L60s

[nova nexus]

No strap

[muted relic]

so then L45 would feel even lighter than reds?

[nova nexus]

That's right, yea. About 25% lighter

[desert quest]

Thanks. So in my situation I’m more likely getting the assembled version, right?

[nova nexus]

I use the L45s currently, used the L60s previously, both are perfectly fine but the difference is noticable

[nova nexus]

The preassembled version is the best choice for most people, and the best price

[shell heath]

and the fans cry,the ball stops rolling,the children are no longer smiling a sad day for the football.😭

[nova nexus]

Only if you already know that you want to do special things to customize outside of what we offer directly, then the module might be a better option

[muted relic]

think I will notice an upgrade in quality of the feel of pressing the keys coming from cherry reds, even though I'm a keyboard noob?

[nova nexus]

Yes, but not because of the weight, but instead because of how buttery smooth the Lekker keypress is

[muted relic]

interesting, ty for your reponses

now I just have to rationalize spending the $200, even though my 10+ year old keyboard isn't broken 😁

[tiny tartan]

oh any updates on the LED strip btw

i'ma prob sell my g915 once i get my wooting

[nova nexus]

Dooo eeettt

[muted relic]

so these spare switches that it comes with, if ever you were to have a key start to fail on the board, you could swap it out and restore functionality?

neat

[lapis galleon]

however its very unlikely a switch fails since its just a magnet and some plastic

[desert quest]

Thanks, appreciate it

[muted relic]

ah so a failure would be more likely at the pcb level?

[lapis galleon]

yea

[shell heath]

I'm sunk I'm going to have to pay 25€ more for only 1 switch of 60g for the space because I click it accidentally sometimes 💀

[tiny tartan]

no more stars/speckles

[lapis galleon]

but that wouldnt happen anytime soon with regular use

[tiny tartan]

https://www.youtube.com/live/KNrBrbyFCL0?si=QsMOdikoMG8Zt-NA&t=381

[fallen forge]

so the assembled version comes with v2 lekkers preinstalled, right?

[muted relic]

yeah, not worried about it, was just curious. looking for more reasons to rationalize buying during the campaign and the spare switches was one of them 😁

[lapis galleon]

yes

[fallen forge]

also, any downsides to ordering JIS layout vs ANSI? I'm fine with L shaped enter key and smaller spacebar + 2 rebindable keys seems nice

[muted relic]

is this an accurate comparison of the layouts?

[rose crane]

what is the most expensive 80he configuration

is it with zinc alloy and then idk some other stuff that you can buy like cable?

[woven hollow]

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[rose crane]

so 330 euros

but are the l60 the new ones or the old ones

[woven hollow]

80 only comes with new ones

[buoyant solstice]

Difficulty finding keycap sets that match?

Using any kind of standard, US or European layout in your OS, that doesn't account for JIS?

[rose crane]

can u choose between l45 and 60 v2s?

[daring flax]

both are coming with the travel case

[vernal quest]

so what is the names of new switches ? lekkers v2 ?

[daring flax]

yeah, just lekkers v2

im just goin off what was said on stream, maybe someone misspoke

[nova nexus]

I'll need to clarify that point, I think I did mis-type and the preassembled plastic also includes the travel case

I'm going to leave the pinned post as-is until I take a moment later to double check that; better to under promise than over promise

[fallen forge]

Ye I'm not much for swapping keycaps, but mostly wondering if there's something to look out for as far as the interactions with OS and layouts go

For example, can I just slap regular English (US) layout on it and use wooting software to customize the two new keys besides the spacebar?

[nova nexus]

Which also feeds into my response to this question:
The travel case is additionally functioning as a component of the packaging to ensure that the keyboard arrives safe and sound. That way the packaging can be simpler and thinner, allowing for operational savings

[pure cloud]

clever. converts some of the packaging into something that isn't "waste"

[verbal solar]

has price on zinc case even been set?

[nova nexus]

Yes, pinned

[vernal quest]

the pcb of the wooting 60he 8000K gonna be compatible with actual case for 1000K

[nova nexus]

Somewhat but not entirely unfair, it ought to be noted that the price you've noted there does not include tax

[verbal solar]

im tripping zinc case is only for 80he right?

[nova nexus]

If we decide to make an 8k version of the 60HE+, then it would be available as a module option that you could swap into your existing case

[nova nexus]

Correct

A zinc version of the Alumaze is a possibility, but has neither been confirmed nor denied

[verbal solar]

got it

[nova nexus]

Y'all got three minutes to ask any further questions and then I'm out for the night

[verbal solar]

trade in current modules to get a discount on 8k 60he+ if thats anything coming in the future?

[vernal quest]

sign the contract mark , sign the contract ..! xdd (we need 60he 8000k )

[verbal solar]

i mean u dont have to buy the zinc case?

[vapid storm]

what position do you prefer to sleep in?

[sterile walrus]

Zincmaze

[daring flax]

i just cant wait to get off this bum ass keeb im on, i gave it silent reds

[tight cypress]

It isn't
In my case I would have to pay VAT and import fees on top of shipping, price with everything was a little more expensive than for Alumaze

[sterile walrus]

Upside down, wrapped in the leathery embrace of his own wings.

[vapid storm]

sexy

[nova nexus]

No, we don't want the old PCBAs back because a) we don't want to deal with selling them at a discount and b) we don't want to be cleaning cat puke off keyboards

[nova nexus]

On my stomach, with my legs apart so that the cat can curl up between them and cuddle

[verbal solar]

hey hey, i keep my stuff clean!

[sterile walrus]

Clearly I had you confused with V.

[nova nexus]

The reality is that this takes develoment time from industrial designers, software, and operations. To work on this means we're not working on something else. Everything comes at a cost, and it isn't always monetary.

[sterile walrus]

Hmm. Faustian.

[verbal solar]

i mean 60he+ is more than enough

[nova nexus]

T-t-t-thaattt'sss all folks! More than welcome to continue asking questions here, but I am out for the evening and make no promises that I will answer them tomorrow morning 👋

[sterile walrus]

Later, Mark

[tight cypress]

Good night

[hoary abyss]

I don't think its necessary

[digital rapids]

80he will ship from europe to canada again i guess

[tiny tartan]

thanks mark

[digital rapids]

;-; sad canadian shipping costs noise

[tight cypress]

Same as with 60he

Shipping from NA would be even more expensive

[vernal quest]

@hoary abyss i suppose you not have buy a case for 120 euro for 60 he

[sterile walrus]

Move to a real country 😤

[digital rapids]

Not to canada

[vernal quest]

@hoary abyss its a lose of money for every one who have already buy the 60he and case ( alumaze ....)

[hoary abyss]

Sorry I didn't understand what yoy said, maybe you are talking about Alumaze?
If so, no, I didn't buy any extras with my wooting 60he

[digital rapids]

Us to can shipping is cheap

[tight cypress]

#💬│general message

[vernal quest]

@hoary abyss if i can uprgrade my 60 he pcb without change the CUSTOM case , you agree i stack some money

[hoary abyss]

Not really, 8khz polling doesn't make a noticeable difference

[digital rapids]

Doubt

Cheaper for wooting but not for the customer

[vernal quest]

@hoary abyss i know but you feel me if i want the best without change my case ...

[buoyant solstice]

Not entirely. Different amount of keys, different locations.

[hoary abyss]

Yeah I get you but tbh I think it would be a waste if your money

[buoyant solstice]

You can definitely Frankenstein something, but it'll never be "standard"

[tight cypress]

Customer would have to pay for the whole shipping regardless, so if it's cheaper for Wooting, then it's cheaper for customer

[hoary abyss]

You already have the 60he so buying a whole module just for the 8k polling is kinda overkill imo

[verbal solar]

how much was shipping from wooting to you?

[verbal solar]

correct, since you will not be able to notice the difference at all

[buoyant solstice]

Pretty sure the old US to CA prices are almost identical to the current EU to CA.

Also a lot more consistently delivered.

[digital rapids]

So it was 30$ cad shipping before too?

[buoyant solstice]

They'd likely have a similar lead time situation as the 80 itself.

Gotta set up additional manufacturing and packaging. And get it all in stock.

[sterile walrus]

Our grandkids will be stoked

[buoyant solstice]

When you add together the import duties and not having to pay the handling fee, yes. I believe so.

[digital rapids]

Computers/computer peripherals are duty free when shipped from the us

You just pay taxes

[buoyant solstice]

Still had to pay the processing fee.

[fallen forge]

ye i was thinking about just "frankensteining" something as long as the software allows it, as far as I can see JIS is just more buttons with a "funky" enter/backspace/spacebar

thanks for replying btw, now I still have 5 days to think about it

[dreamy sedge]

im kinda confused that corsair can have the same prices as competitors with their alu cases arent they also expensive to make?(in regard to the cost of the zinc case we can buy)

[rose crane]

so if i buy the pre assembled zinc alloy with everything maxed out do i need to pay 30 euros still on shipping?

[verbal solar]

new module come on monday, this time i promise i wont break the LED on the enter key Mansen

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-thank-you-puppy-dog-nft-gif-6089154394216510091

[dim sierra]

Guess im buying another wooting

[digital rapids]

Used keyboard sounds yucky

Like you rub your hands against it

Maybe i'm just a bit of a germophobe but i really feel disgusted by it lol

[jolly tangle]

wooting has 2 year warranty on the leds?

@verbal solar

[buoyant solstice]

Not in this case. Strafe murdered it.

[honest linden]

🔫

[verbal solar]

this isnt any news lol

[verbal solar]

straight up rko’d that LED mansen knows

put the switch in the wrong way on the enter key😄

[jolly tangle]

happens to the best

[verbal solar]

thats what im saying

[verbal solar]

its a good deal tbh iykyk

[high ether]

I can't wait to get my hands on my 80he

it's going to be all oiled up

[dense ridge]

@high ether gonna order with plastic or methal casE?

[high ether]

well one is 200 and the other's 300

so I'm gonna go for the cheaper one

[low token]

Well white zinc alloy and nice keycaps would be sweet

[high ether]

the options they have to better improve the keyboard are cool

but im just more interested in the analog movement tech

[golden tendon]

what was the new hidden feature

[waxen turret]

we still don't know, but something with switches I think

[golden tendon]

they said they would announce it today

[waxen turret]

did they? Price announcement was today.

[buoyant jacinth]

Not yet, the campaign hasn't started yet.

Today's livestream was about the following:

We'll be talking about the 80HE layouts, prices, Founders' Campaign perks, and some expectations for mass production and delivery

as quoted from the #📣│announcements post

[high ether]

[haughty cedar]

5

[golden tendon]

oh ok

[midnight iron]

Hrm we don’t have a nice light sky blue color role yet

The church of the white 80he supports the church of the sky blue 80he founders role

[high ether]

is there a church of the black 80he

[buoyant jacinth]

where is my Ocean Blue 80HE

[verbal solar]

Where is my my 60he with 8k polling 😢

[haughty hull]

priceeeeeeeeeee

[low token]

guys what would be mouse for 80he zinc user? It is heavy so I guess heavy mouse

[verbal solar]

Beast x

[haughty hull]

80he price ?????????

[low token]

Check pinned

[verbal solar]

200 regular or 330 for zinc

[bronze ginkgo]

I'd imagine a polar opposite, honestly. something really light, maybe?

[haughty hull]

im in turkey guys wtffff i need to pay 300 for guest VAT omgggggggggggggggggggggggg

[low token]

Well only option is cnc machine and painting if you want blue case

[low token]

Light nah how you are supossed to lift keyboard if you have Light mouse

Strap 5kg weight to wrist and it will be same

[verbal solar]

Upgrading keyboard press the checkmark not upgrade press the red x

[low token]

?

Upgrading from what

[verbal solar]

there

[low token]

Well I do not know but propably you have taxes on customs and vat

[tawny flame]

Upgrading from the 60he to 80he. Wonder how many people like us

[steady escarp]

Buying one just to try it will probably keep dallying my 60

[obtuse wagon]

I plan to buy 1 an just put it on display

[low token]

Modded?

Oh you are buying 80he to put on display

Remember to put cute keycaps

If you want go expensive route making own case could be interesting

[umbral locust]

My friend is a carpenter, I might ask him to make me a case with a strap for the 80he.

[midnight iron]

Hrm that raw zinc version might be really nice for sanding the surface and spray painting it

[tawny flame]

I wonder how white the zinc will be. I ordered some boards that are not close to e-white

[midnight iron]

If they stick with the one Calder showed then it’ll be more on the bleach white side than warm white

Looked similar to a ws2 type white instead of that warmer ws1 white

[high ether]

the raw zinc version might be really nice for covering in oil

[umbral locust]

where can I find the latest wooting80 update, I don't see anything on their youtube

[midnight iron]

later today they're releasing a blog post and video, but if you want to know the details you can watch the livestream from yesterday

[umbral locust]

Ah I see, ty!

[karmic canyon]

whats the benefit of the zinc case? looks cooler?

[lapis galleon]

heavier, more premium feel

[high ether]

you will feel that 300 dollar premium heavier weight on a table for sure

[daring flax]

that premium gonna feel good on the wallet too

[buoyant solstice]

It's definitely up there. Turkish imports fees are rough.
Rough enough that shipping to somewhere like Greece, and going up there to pick it up is worth it 😄

[quiet berry]

Is the wooting 80he zinc case possibly cheapo or is it nice?

[quiet berry]

@buoyant solstice that chinese? I don't speak Chinese

[buoyant solstice]

[lime falcon]

its like 350$ is it cheap?

[winged birch]

cheapo.

As in quality not price. 😉

[jovial ferry]

Question since you will also sell jades, were those tested with 80HE? Does the spacebar stabilizer in 80HE still require a little bit of modding or swapping? Like in 60HE

[haughty hull]

my brother is on UK 😄 i think i am waiting for him to come visit me aşsdlmjgöhkhlasd

[dim sierra]

Wooting sells jades? 🤨

[low token]

They will

Also there will be 2 more secret switches

[dim sierra]

[obtuse wagon]

Most people did not need to mod or change anything with the jades

Then I have seen others that did 🤷‍♂️ so not 100% really

[winged birch]

The stock keycaps are tight enough to not cause any issues. 3rd party keycaps that are more loose can cause issues though.

[jovial ferry]

Thanks thats nice to know

One more question, if I decide to buy a 80HE kit (pcb + zinc case) and will choose jades as a main choice. Does it still qualify for free lekker switches? Or does both of my choices need to be lekkers for the promo?

[midnight iron]

They said they think so but have to confirm

That blog post and video should be coming anytime now actually

[digital elm]

I think the blog should be coming in the next hour

[low token]

How do you know

[digital elm]

Because they always post at <t:1709992800:t> or somewhat around that time

[low token]

Oh yeah

Sounds like that

[real gulch]

so jades are fully compatible (in comparison to the raptors)?

[midnight iron]

pretty much yeah, you just lose the last 0.5mm of movement

[real gulch]

is the stem slightly shorter bc of that?

[low token]

Well those 0.5 are nothing tbh

[midnight iron]

cause they closed bottom of the switch you lose that 0.5mm to that - but that's not so much a loss as a sidegrade because some people actually prefer shorter travel anyway

[low token]

So we will get jades, silents and something

[real gulch]

ah okay

i would like some low profile switches haha

[low token]

@midnight iron what case material is appropriate for church member?

[low token]

I dont think so they are planned

[midnight iron]

white zinc is accepted in all our congregations

[fallen epoch]

What if i get black zinc? Can i still at least join the congregation of zinc lovers?

[tight cliff]

That raw zinc alloy sounds interesting though 🤔

[low token]

What about keycaps

[midnight iron]

you will have to start a new denomination branch

[fallen epoch]

[midnight iron]

the church approves of nice black on white keycaps of various styles

[low token]

[fallen epoch]

Ceramic keys with the zinc case would be a cool look

[low token]

Cool and expensive

[fallen epoch]

Worth. Every. Penny.

[real gulch]

i would join

[fallen epoch]

🤝 then welcome aboard

[midnight iron]

only thing that worries me about cerakeys is the qc can be a bit scuffed

a lot of examples of keys being misaligned and you have to contact them and wait to get them replaced

[fallen epoch]

Yeah ive heard they’re spotty with qc, plus id probably get tired typing with them quickly

[tight cliff]

They're still perfecting the manufacturing process to improve QC, guess it's not that easy to make them also they've had troubles making the ISO Enter

[dusk ingot]

is there a list of wooting pcb (80he) compatible switches? lekkers, jades, do the raptorHEs work?

sorry if this is stupid question, i just remember looking at a comparison switch video and i dont want to get confused about switch compatibility if there's discrepancys for different HE switches

[winter coral]

Scratches on black finish - is there a chance to see zinc natural color?

[sterile walrus]

GMK has QC issues too yet people still throw money at em like they're having a fire sale.

[low token]

Raptors dosent work because they have too strong magnet

Tho jades are fine with max 3.5mm

[dusk ingot]

ah damn

[low token]

Well i buy gmk only in stock

[sterile walrus]

That's usually a better proposition

[fallen epoch]

Yeah i like looking at in-stock sets more than groupbuys

[tardy goblet]

I am sad that some of my favourite GMK keycap sets does not come with international keycaps

bought some in stock from PBT/KDB fans instead

[tight cliff]

#📣│announcements message
https://wooting.io/post/80he-founders-campaign-sneak-peak New blog post & video, that Raw one looks good 👀

[glad fable]

finally

we get to see founder's perks! 🤑

[shell heath]

Free switch pack

[tardy goblet]

The white alloy case looks fire 🔥

[shell heath]

80he module white alloy zinc case with switches how much?

[tight cliff]

Says it on top

[shell heath]

but thats is with the keycaps i dont want keycaps

[autumn fable]

Just for clarification, does Wooting Module mean it only comes with case of choice and the pcb? Then you can choose our own switches and keycaps?

[tight cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCkQ7aMNudI

[shell heath]

the metal one is the raw alloy/zinc?

[tight cliff]

Yeah would think so

[sterile walrus]

Yarp

[shell heath]

bruh i dont know what to do white or raw alloy

[winter coral]

Both 🫠

[autumn fable]

i want both

[sterile walrus]

I love my 60, but dat 80 d'oh

[autumn fable]

but the smokey transparent lowkey fire

[verbal solar]

60he clears by miles

[nova nexus]

Preinstalled comes with L60s, so the extra switch pack becomes L45s
For the module version, if you buy either the L45s or L60s you get both

[tropic sandal]

the 80he is going to be better than 60he?

[shell heath]

mark u have any photo with raw zinc/alloy keyboard (another angles with some keycaps ..) if u can pls?

[nova nexus]

I think what we will be able to do is that if you buy the Jades that you can pick a free either L45 or L60, but the inverse of "buy a pack of L60 or L45 and get a free pack of Jades" won't be possible

[verbal solar]

no pricing on the lekker v2's?

[sterile walrus]

Hi Mark. I think I know this is a stretch, but is there any way that the full package could be shipped unassembled?

[nova nexus]

They'll all be on the storefront where you can browse through 🙂

[nova nexus]

The kit options would come unassembled

[sterile walrus]

So just the module.. gotcha

[nova nexus]

If you want the thrill and joy of building out one of the preassembled options, you will be able to get any of the 6 case options with the module

[jolly tangle]

custom cable + custom keycaps is the way to go

I mean wooting cable and take control keycaps

[sterile walrus]

I thought about it. I'm swapping the caps & cable anyway

[last wasp]

Would it be possible to see the white clear plastic version with RGB on?

Really tempted to go with that

[winter coral]

Did you do some scratch test with rings? Don’t like to see Metall through small scratches.

[sterile walrus]

Those are Gateron products. Only Wooting Lekkers are available

[verbal solar]

wooting will be buying jades tho and selling them in 90pcs

[tropic sandal]

the 80he is going to be better than 60he?

[shell heath]

so now you can not?I am very undecided whether white or raw alloy.what color you recommend?

[nova nexus]

We will sell the Jades on the store, but the price will be higher than our own lekker switches. Not exactly sure what that price will be though

[verbal solar]

doubt, its personal preference imo if u like bigger or smaller keyboards

[nova nexus]

I'll be going for the black zinc personally

Sorry sno

[jolly tangle]

@midnight iron thank you for always helping people in this channel.

[verbal solar]

when will prices for lekkerv2 drop? also there were some more switches u said u guys are working on?

[jolly tangle]

[midnight iron]

The church of the white 80he does not endorse marks actions

[verbal solar]

could just slap the new switches into the 60he tho

[sterile walrus]

But I do 😎

[nova nexus]

Lekker V2s are the same price as the current Lekker switches, except that they'll be introduced as a 90 pack for this campaign. There will also be a 70 pack available later, as well as a 20 pack.

[quasi crater]

When is the next calder in the ruins video?

[shell heath]

u can still choose iso ansi or jis right?

[buoyant jacinth]

Yes

[verbal solar]

what is the price difference on the 70pcs to the 90pcs?

[jolly tangle]

does it matter u get a free pack anyways

[fallen epoch]

Free packs are nice

[shell heath]

free switch pack is only for lekkers right? not jades?

[jolly tangle]

correct

[nova nexus]

Lekker switch packs, both V1 and V2, will be $50/€50 for a 90 pack, and $40/€40 for a 70 pack

When buying the switches as part of a keyboard module product, they'll be discounted 50%:
$25/€25 for a 90 pack, and $20/€20 for a 70 packs.

[low token]

Yes

[midnight iron]

Will there be any way to add extra cases to an order? Like buying a kit module with both a zinc case and a plastic case

[low token]

I guess propably there is

[tight cliff]

Raw zinc alloy is all one need 😎

[nova nexus]

Yes, though the UX for doing this in the configurator isn't the smoothest=

[midnight iron]

Nice

[verbal solar]

amazing pricing, and im assuming the thocky switches you talked about yesterday was the new lekkers or do you have something else cooking? ;D

[nova nexus]

For sure if you back out of the configurator back to the store and add more cases to your cart from there, they can be purchased together

https://tenor.com/view/cook-breaking-bad-hoodie-gif-13536614

[sterile walrus]

Am I missing the module+case pricing somewhere on the blog?

[shell heath]

this is the last week of news right? i mean bcs wanna see/hear the sound test of the new v2 lekkers

[tight cliff]

The module price is on the bottom but it's missing the case price

[tropic sandal]

if i buy the 80he on preorder when is going able to ship?

[nova nexus]

Probably August

[verbal solar]

cant wait for the thocky switches to be announced if they aint the lekkers v2

[desert quest]

Are the build in L60‘s also v2?

[low token]

I thought there will be more weird colours like with alumaze

[nova nexus]

Yes

[fallen epoch]

The reduced wobble is gonna be nice

[desert quest]

thanks

[nova nexus]

I'd love to see us add some new color options in the not too distant future, but before we invest a tone of design and development time into that we want to get some cold hard data from customer's purchasing behavior

[low token]

when eu batch would be shipped?

[nova nexus]

Probably august

[low token]

[fallen epoch]

id kill for a coffee/sienna color thats for sure

[midnight iron]

now to decide what 2nd case to pick. Gotta be one of the translucent ones for sure

[nova nexus]

Throw it in #1141096226884956181

[low token]

White zinc will be shipped with white keycaps?

[fallen epoch]

When i find the time I will

[midnight iron]

the church of the white 80he supports our brothers in the mocha/light mocha zinc alloy church

[sterile walrus]

Hmm. Doesn't sound very white, Sno

[tight cliff]

The case price, wristrest pricing could also be there on the site? or will it be posted once the 80HE launches with other stuff? also the rumored add-ons will they be revealed on launch day to be bought with the 80HE?

[nova nexus]

For languages that we have white PBT keycaps, yes

[midnight iron]

don't worry the first case shall be white zinc alloy

[low token]

I use ansi layout

[nova nexus]

Wrist rest pricing is in line with our current products.

Travel case pricing is included in the pinned post in this channel

[tight cliff]

Yeah just that the Module look cheapest now

[midnight iron]

Doesn't match my setup but I bet raw zinc color + black cerakeys would look clean

[verbal solar]

wooting adding keycaps with keycap addons anytime? similar to what pbtfans has a base kit and a addon kit

[nova nexus]

I'm really curious about that raw zinc... I want to get my hands on a sample 😛

[low token]

Well no travel case

[desert quest]

Can you choose the color of the keycaps on the preassembled version or is it like white case = white keycaps, black case = black keycaps?

[nova nexus]

We would rather support the language outright, is there a particular language you're looking for?

[nova nexus]

Preassmbled does not have the choice of keycap color, it is set to match the case color

[low token]

RAW zinc is this weird not painted variant?

[nova nexus]

Correct that it's not painted, but I'm not sure if it has a clearcoat finish of some kind

[dim sierra]

is there zinc btm and translucent top?

[nova nexus]

There is if you buy both 😉

[desert quest]

Okay, so if I want the black zinc case and white keycaps, I have to go with the kit right?

[verbal solar]

not really i just wanted a ansi layout with international addon kit to fit the layout i have on my keyboard, so i can use it like this

[jolly tangle]

that would be so wicked

[dim sierra]

[verbal solar]

as you see its an ansi layout with åäö etc

[nova nexus]

That would be the cheapest option. If you didn't want to worry about assembling it and just swap the keycaps, you could also get the white keycaps as additional

[low token]

Um there is white ansi keycap set? Because for my lsnfy there is no need for weird layouts

[nova nexus]

Yes

[dim sierra]

so there is a option to buy 2 cases with 1 module?

[midnight iron]

yeah i asked that earlier and it's doable

[pliant acorn]

200？

[desert quest]

Okay thank you

[pliant acorn]

Price

200 usd？

[nova nexus]

Yes. I'll check with our devs during the week to ensure that the ability to do this is clearly communicated and easy to do

[midnight iron]

i think my plan is white zinc alloy + smokey translucent cases

[dim sierra]

i might actually get 2 cases for the translucent top 💀

[verbal solar]

instead of having to buy both ansi+iso keycaps

[winter coral]

That would be nice to buy only additional case..

[low token]

Look in blogpost. Tho assembled zinc is 330€

[pliant acorn]

Isn't that it?

[arctic ice]

damn thats kinda what I need I really want ansi layout but with those ä åö letters , ihate the normal ISO nordic layout

[low token]

Yeah

[pliant acorn]

What is the difference between pcr and zinc

[obtuse wagon]

one is plastic the other is zinc

[low token]

Material and travel case is included with zinc

[sterile walrus]

Plastic vs metal 🤘🏻

[verbal solar]

yup first time on ansi feels way better

[arctic ice]

yea i got 2 keyboards and 1 iso 1 ansi i like ansi way better but need the keycaps äöfor it

[marble ruin]

wait so travel case is only for zinc version that sounds weird 😄

considering its heaviest

[low token]

It is included

Tho you csn buy it for abs version

[verbal solar]

what keycap set?

[trail river]

The price of 300$ is a complete set, right?

[arctic ice]

just the ö ä letters not a set like to replace the ansi ones that are place instead of those

[low token]

Without customs and shipping

[olive phoenix]

are the prices the same for campaign and after?

[low token]

Propably?

[trail river]

thank you!

[marble ruin]

@olive phoenix can happen same thing whhat happened to 60 he and price go up 😄

[olive phoenix]

oh damn I didn't know that

[pliant acorn]

i think pcr enough

[tough mauve]

Does buying the module and switches and keycaps cost the same as 330€ zinc alloy thing

[worthy wigeon]

How many switches does the 80he need? 90 or 70?

[nova nexus]

If you select all of the components in the module that reflects a prebuilt option, the kit version is $10/€10 more expensive

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/too-many-counting-gif-15929632

[nova nexus]

90 pack

[olive phoenix]

@nova nexus will the price be the same after campaign?

[marble ruin]

so its confirned travel case as bonus is only with pre-built 80he zinc ?

[rose crane]

Yes

[tough mauve]

But the kit doesn't have the raw metal looking case am I right? So basically 10€ for the metal looking case

[nova nexus]

Yes

[rose crane]

But the wooting module has so many colour optiosn

[nova nexus]

The prebuilt doesn't have an option for the raw zinc, that would need to be done via the module

[marble ruin]

then what they said on stream didnt make any sense 😄 (like they said they want for module models to be in case etc :;D)

[olive phoenix]

thank you 😄

[tough mauve]

Thanks. So if I buy everything that is in the kit version and choose the raw zinc it would be 10 € more than the kit version with for example white zinc case

[worthy wigeon]

I assume that even if we buy the kit, the pcb will be sandwiched with the plate and all we will have to do is to put it on the case... right?

[marble ruin]

@tough mauve switches: $25/€25
PBT keycaps: $20/€20 (ABS: €10)

[nova nexus]

You've got the terminology backwards but the right idea. The module is a part of the "kit", which comes with a small premium. The preassembled versions have only 4 of the 6 case options

[tough mauve]

Ok got it thank you

[nova nexus]

At the end of the Founders campaign, we may choose to not continue to offer one or two of the prebuilt case options, if the sales aren't there to justify having that version "made to stock" instead of "made to order"

[tiny tartan]

The wording and format for the module kit option should be improved.
It's very confusing lol

Do we get both cases? Plastic and zinc?
Or do we only choose 1?
Or do we pay for the case?

[marble ruin]

@nova nexus will u update pinned info about travel case ?

[buoyant solstice]

Case option 1, option 2 or option (and so on)
Just one case.

[tiny tartan]

So if I buy a module kit and choose zinc and buy a switch pack wouldn't that be way cheaper vs pre built zinc

[marble ruin]

also jade switches price if i buy module version?

[left warren]

Module is listed at 185$ / 205€
and you can chose between PCR ABS case or zinc alloy.
But my guess is that the price is only for the PCR ABS and zink alloy will be more expensive as module?

[marble ruin]

@tiny tartan but u dont get that expensive travel case 😄

[tiny tartan]

Lol

[worthy wigeon]

The wrist rest doesn't come as a free goodie right?

[marble ruin]

@tiny tartan and also zinc case is $265/€295

@worthy wigeon doubt that noone mention it 😄

[worthy wigeon]

ok, no problem since the travel case will come with the module kit

[tiny tartan]

Looks like it's 185 according to the blog post

I thought the blog post would add clarification but it's way worse than what was posted on discord yesterday 💀

[marble ruin]

@worthy wigeon thats what we dont know pinned message it has for 3 out ot 4 varriants but on website they have it only for assemled zinc

[molten ember]

Is the picture out yet for the zinc alloy one

[jolly tangle]

yes its on the blog post

see #💬│general

[tiny tartan]

They have a top down pic lol

[buoyant solstice]

What information are you finding confusing?

[midnight iron]

Just think of module kit as optional keycap and switches but if you buy all the same options as prebuilt then it’s $10 more. If you chose not to buy certain options (eg you have your own keycaps) then you save a small amount

[tiny tartan]

The module kit version. If I buy the module kit version and choose zinc case how much is that going to be

[marble ruin]

@buoyant solstice

[left warren]

I find confusing that only one module option is listed with the same price for PCR ABS and zinc alloy case

[worthy wigeon]

You are right. Does the wooting Kit Module come with the travel case? Since on the pinned message it says it come, but on the Blog it doesnt

[waxen turret]

exactly this question I also have

[marble ruin]

i dont know on blog and here pinned they have different info on travel case im confused too 😄

[buoyant solstice]

I'll pass that along.

[midnight iron]

$265 before switches and keycaps

[worthy wigeon]

Please we need a clarification if the travel case is coming as a free goodie with the module kit

[tiny tartan]

According to what was posted yesterday, right? My complaint is that the blog post doesn't specify any of that

[worthy wigeon]

On pinned messages it says it does, but on the Blog it is omitted

[nova nexus]

This is pinned in this channel

[midnight iron]

The blog post is just a mini announcement basically to let people know starting price

[sage reef]

so kit doesn't have travel case?

[left warren]

but the blog post is missing the price for module of zinc case

[midnight iron]

I don’t think it’s meant to be a comprehensive price sheet since that will just be all on the campaign next week

[nova nexus]

It's not "missing" it is just a little oversimplified. The module price is "from xyz" so that price and up, depending on how the purchase is configured

[left warren]

alright got it

[tiny tartan]

Blog post should be long and comprehensive or it should have foot note
*Look at discord pin message
Lol

[marble ruin]

and travel case in pinned or blog is right ?

[nova nexus]

For sure all of the zinc options come with a travel case. I expect also that the plastic ones will, I just need to double confirm that

[tiny tartan]

But thanks for the clarification

We can't choose which switches it comes preassembled with, right?

[sage reef]

Buy 1 get 1 free switch pack (90 pieces)*
this kit option is only possible to get L60 and L45, not like L60 and L60?

[worthy wigeon]

Can we have photos of the black zinc, white zinc and raw zinc cases individually? Since on the blog all the cases are displayed and that confuses me on the colours.

[buoyant solstice]

No. You get both L45 and L60.

[pseudo iris]

the 80HE wont have any compatible 3rd party cases because of the LED and weird shape im assuming?

[buoyant solstice]

There are no standards for keyboards in this size. Or TKL for that matter.

[tiny tartan]

Not at launch but I'm sure someone will make a compatible case

[marble ruin]

and if i buy jades(still need know price) i can choose L45 ?

[tough mauve]

Will the raw zinc case be sold forever or is there a chance it will be discontinued

[worthy wigeon]

Apparently you can.

[desert quest]

what’s the difference between lekker and jade switches?

[buoyant solstice]

If you buy the module.

[worthy wigeon]

Jades are 0.5 mm shorter (up to 3.5 mm) and i believe that forces are different on L45 and Jade Switches

[marble ruin]

@buoyant solstice yeah i get it just need know price now to be sure if its worth cause from gateron site price looks little bit scary 😄

[desert quest]

Ah okay thanks

[buoyant solstice]

Our prices for their products aren't going to be any better. They set the price.

[nova nexus]

It would be highly unlikely that the Jades on our storefront would be cheaper than on Gateron's website direct

But with some luck, won't be more expensive

[buoyant solstice]

The goal is to save on shipping ultimately. Saving you from placing that order at Gateron, and paying shipping a second time. 🙂

[worthy wigeon]

56 USD for only 70. They don't sell them in 90 pieces

[marble ruin]

so prolly like 70$ fr 90 pack?

[worthy wigeon]

So i don't know how wooting can pack 90 pieces of gateron jade switches for the 80HE

[buoyant solstice]

The old fashioned way I suppose.

[worthy wigeon]

Unless they put their own packaging themselves

[midnight iron]

They do sell them in 90 actually but not on English site

[worthy wigeon]

Ahh

[midnight iron]

But either way it’s common for switch resellers to repackage and sell switches in various quantities

[worthy wigeon]

The saving on the keycaps will be neglected by the jade switches i guess

[pseudo iris]

are there any close up pics of the zinc alloy case?

[marble ruin]

oh i hope they will give better price like 40$ for pack :{

[worthy wigeon]

On the blog they displayed all the cases, but not zinc ones individually

[real gulch]

so the "Buy 1 get 1 free switch pack (90 pieces)*" can include jades?

[pseudo iris]

Yah I know I was hoping to get close ups

[real gulch]

or is that for l60 / l45 only

[nova nexus]

If you buy the Jades then you can get a lekker pack free, but not the other way around

[real gulch]

Okay ty

[nova nexus]

I think this is true, not 100% on it

[unkempt cosmos]

How

[marble ruin]

@unkempt cosmos module version

[unkempt cosmos]

I don't completely understand

When you buy Jade, get 1 lekker pack free?

[buoyant jacinth]

It is.

If you purchase the 80HE Module, and select any (L60v2/L45v2/Jade) switches for your configuration, then you are eligible to get the campaign perk of a free L60v2 or L45v2 90pack

If you don't select switches with your Module, then you do not get the campaign perk.

[marble ruin]

@buoyant jacinth still not info on their price ?

[real gulch]

will all the cases be available separately later?

[buoyant jacinth]

For what product? If you mean the Jades, I have no clue, I don't work on product details.

[nova nexus]

This is still being discussed, but my personal expectation is yes

[marble ruin]

@buoyant jacinth yeah jades so i guees i need to wait for that information

[nova nexus]

The price of the Jades on our storefront has not yet been finalized

[real gulch]

I hope your expectation will be true :D

[nova nexus]

Me too 😄

[tiny tartan]

We can't choose which switches it comes pre installed with, right?
If it doesn't I'm assuming lubing would be required if we decide to use the 45?

[nova nexus]

Preinstalled version will always have L60 Lekker switches

[sage reef]

Jade bottoming out on 30g?

[marble ruin]

@real gulch but with zinc variants for free then price is not going to be that big difference 😄

[nova nexus]

All switches come prelubed at the factory

[tiny tartan]

Sweet thanks

[nova nexus]

Zinc definitely ain't free

[midnight iron]

Hrm real question is to get a pack of jades and some lekker v2 or two packs of lekker v2 with the kit order

[marble ruin]

i mean travel case not zinc

[tiny tartan]

Get all 3

[sage reef]

Jade bottoming out on 30g? why so low

[midnight iron]

Jades bottom out at 50ish

They just list starting force instead of ending force

[unkempt cosmos]

What will be the difference between Lekker L60 switches and the new Lekker V2 switch?

[nova nexus]

It would be nice if the packaging for the Jades had a line of their force graph >_>

[sage reef]

yeah, great to see incomplete switch info on switch's official pages, instills confidence in the product

[idle depot]

I gotta ask it’s not too clear from my interpretation what the kit is. Is it just the module plus the zinc/plastic case?

[real gulch]

the plastic ones also look cool

[nova nexus]

A graph without a line is pretty whack

[real gulch]

maybe i wanna switch at some point

[nova nexus]

Correct. So you can pick your own switches and keycaps, and have a wider selection of cases to pick from

[real gulch]

is there any rough estimate for when the first keyboards will be send out?

[buoyant jacinth]

Definitely before 2050 🙂

[digital elm]

seems reasonable

[marble ruin]

it cant be worse then finalmouse shipping 😄

[idle depot]

Okay, so would we have put the module in the case or is that preassembled?

Also love the idea of doing it DIY.

[buoyant solstice]

Module means putting it together yourself.

[winged birch]

The PC plate will be screwed in from the bottom of the PCB I presume and will stp files for the 80HE be available during the campaign so I can bake a case?

[sage reef]

Jade is also "30士7gf" isn't this very imprecise
I guess not really, seeing the others being 士15

[idle depot]

Oh so the module uses a polycarbonate plate aswell! Love PC plates!!!!

[nova nexus]

Typically we release design files when the product delivers to customers. We may make an exception for the case file, given that there aren't any 3rd party options and we'd want to give companies a head start on development if they wish to support this

[winged birch]

Well, I wouldn’t want it to produce, just for personal use. So it’ll be after it’s shipped out and companies that would want to create a case can get it before?

With produce I mean sell.

[real gulch]

is the plastic above the ledstrip part of the pcb or part of the case?

[tough mauve]

The wooting module says buy 1 get 1 free 90 piece switch pack. So can i buy Lekker switches and get free pack of jades?

[winged birch]

You can buy Jades and get a free pack of Lekker V2s.

[real gulch]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[winged birch]

Also shouldn’t Lekker V2s be called Heerlijk?

Seems like a no brainer. 😂

[marble ruin]

@tough mauve only jade and get pack of lekkers for free not other way around 😄

[tough mauve]

Sad

[polar storm]

So there will be no high priced special edition like for 60HE to support you guys?

[buoyant solstice]

Mnope.

[marble ruin]

@tough mauve yep im getting scared they will be too pricy i hoped for atleast little discount like for 40$ usd pack but doesnt look like it will be like that

[buoyant solstice]

We did consider doing the PCB icon thing again, but it proved eat up a -lot- of dev time, for our illustrators to help go back and forth with customers to ensure the result was both high quality and ... legal 😄

[buoyant jacinth]

This will have to be brought up internally, as it hasn't been on our mind, but like Mark said it's possible for us to make an exception for the Case this time around

We'll see

[marble ruin]

and knob? 🍮

[buoyant solstice]

The mysterious knob project is still being worked on. Separately from the 80HE project.

[real gulch]

ye when will the rotary lekker switch release

[brazen iris]

The question is
Do the jades have the same tolerances
Idc bout sound but would like the „force“ middleground

[midnight iron]

Jades are middle ground already at 50ish end force

[buoyant solstice]

Jades are Jades. We're not modifying them.

[onyx spoke]

What if I don't care about the travel case, is it possible to have the wrist rest instead?

[nova nexus]

No

[brazen iris]

Jeah thats why i said the question is do they have the same tolerances

[sage reef]

The mysterious knob project is still being worked on. Separately from the 80HE project.
but wasn't it made clear before that the knob thing will be announced for 80HE later
and like follow with it

[bold ice]

Should I cancel my 60he order and wait for the 80`?

[polar storm]

Only u can answer that

[buoyant solstice]

That's an excellent question for #🔧│keyboard_modding or the manufacturer of said switches 😄

[tough mauve]

Depends on if you want a bigger keyboard and 8k polling

[bold ice]

Are the specs gonna be better? 60HEvs80HE

[winged birch]

It’s an add on for the 80HE, maybe just maybe for their other boards too (Untamed ;))

[brazen iris]

Isnt gateron also producing the lekker v2s pretty much🤔

[tough mauve]

8k polling will be better than on 60he

[rose crane]

No knob on on the 14 march?

[winged birch]

We don’t know.

[buoyant solstice]

That is correct.

[rose crane]

Will it be released later this year?

[marble ruin]

so i can add knob later or i need to buy whole new PCB for it?

[sage reef]

yeah but Mansen made it seem like it's separate and like won't probably follow with 80HE

[buoyant solstice]

Correct.

[winged birch]

I’m confused

[tough mauve]

What is the knob

[sage reef]

so you won't get it free with campaign

[light escarp]

LOLLL I WAS RIGHT AFTER ALL

[marble ruin]

so i will need new PCB for knob one in future right?

[winged birch]

That I expected but there not to be info on it when people buy the keyboard it was teased for is odd.

[light escarp]

200-400 + SHIPPING

[sage reef]

nah, it's probably a switch-knob, compatible with any switch slot

[real gulch]

that would be cool

[buoyant solstice]

Deadlines, projects not proceeding in parrallel perfectly and so on.

[rose crane]

Mansen is the rgb strip like touchable?

[nova nexus]

Stroke the furry LED bar

[real gulch]

😳

[midnight iron]

Its lickable

[marble ruin]

@sage reef oh okay nice thats sounds good little bit scared how small it will be but its interesting

[light escarp]

I WAS RIGHT DUDE

[real gulch]

has there been any more info on the functionality of the bar

[nova nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/baldursgate-bg3-baldurs-gate-3-gale-gale-dekarios-gif-15652203506140272587

[rose crane]

Broo i meant like touchscreen

[light escarp]

IM GLAD IM NOT INSANE ANYMORE

[midnight iron]

A lickable led bar controlled by your tongue would be a unique add on for sure

[autumn fable]

ayo?

[real gulch]

white zinc church members 😵‍💫

[light escarp]

IMAGINE PUTTING YOUR KEYBOARD IN YOUR FRIDGE AND ICE IT

and then lick it, ICE CREAM 80HE

[autumn fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-gif-21025496

[light escarp]

Its no longer gonna be called the Wooting 80HE it will be called ICE CREAM 80HE

[buoyant solstice]

What would YOU do for a Wooting Bar™️?

[rose crane]

Nah wooting will call it like cream 80

[light escarp]

Buy the whole stock

[light escarp]

New switch idea, the cream lekker switches (Def not novelty keycaps stolen)

[rose crane]

Lekker creams 45

[nova nexus]

How many licks does it take to get to the center of the 80HE?

[light escarp]

DEF 180

[rose crane]

Lekker means delicious so lekker creams 45 sounds good

[light escarp]

HOLY SHIT i gotta thank the sneak peek i was right, Then there a arguement about the price with 2 ppl at once

[nova nexus]

To be fair, at the time you guessed, the price hadn't even been finalized right, so everyone was wrong

[light escarp]

I mean yea, but zinc alloy is a lot of money

So yea ig so i am wrong either way 😂

[light escarp]

imagine tho instead of lubing your stuff you can just have it NOT PRELUBED but used a lot of times and then BOOM

[marble ruin]

yeah prolly cause of travel case lul 😄 is zinc varriant expensive

[light escarp]

Its alrdy smooth as day

[nova nexus]

The lack of controversy over the price suggests to me that we should have priced it higher 😛

[light escarp]

MARK you have no idea 2 ppl were up on my ass regarding this

[real gulch]

will it launch with a fitting wrist rest?

[light escarp]

I told them that instead its def 200-400 cuz of the buffer + Shipping, Yes its alrdy there

[nova nexus]

Yes

[real gulch]

what colors?

[light escarp]

Its on the website alrdy, black and its silicone

[real gulch]

ah ty

[rose crane]

Mark do the prices higher and shipping free. Thats marketing

[light escarp]

O and i forgot i want to thank u and the shipping team for working hard esp shipping out stuff NOW since i got my Prebuilt ima have to do the DEED

[sage reef]

sneak peak doesn't include mention of wrist rest tho

[light escarp]

its alrdy on the website

[marble ruin]

@light escarp scared it will be over 400 when i add on jade switches 😄

[light escarp]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-wrist-rest

[real gulch]

i heard there were some issue with the 60 wristrest surface

[light escarp]

I didnt have any issues with it, the last time i used it

[light escarp]

It won't so long as you don't run the zinc alloy

@real gulch Sorry to add on, Theres midnight blue and black

[sage reef]

@light escarp special one for 80HE tho

[light escarp]

Tenkeyless is the 80HE

60 mini is the 60He the Fullsize is the 2HE

[sage reef]

well not exactly, but will it be possible to include with this campaign

[light escarp]

Nae its alrdy done in for the sneak peek

You gotta get it seperately (MOST LIKELY, I can be wrong)

[marble ruin]

@light escarp i mean if they included travel case for module white plastic varriant i would consider that but otherwise it sound better to go straight to zinc option even thought it will be heavy but i dont travel with keyboard that often so prolly okay

[midnight iron]

Any word on launch colors for the 80he wristrest? The church of the white 80he requires a white wristrest option

[real gulch]

finally a new wrist rest for the wooting one

[light escarp]

There are def new colors looking at the sneak peek tho

[real gulch]

zinc wrist rest when

[light escarp]

It is your choice, sooner or later there will be 3rd party cases going into production after the founders campaign, But there shld be a travel case

(Most likely)

[buoyant jacinth]

I need to double check this, but if you purchase a 80HE Module, then the travel case is included whether or not you choose a Plastic or Zinc alloy case

[marble ruin]

will Calder make video or stream when he showcase all color cases and especially zinc varriants ? so we can see them better cause from pictures its hard to make choices

[light escarp]

Zinc is like steel if i am not wrong

Just a lil heavier than steel and more durable

[midnight iron]

might get two wristrests if there’s white and black. My old wooting tkl black wristrest for work setup getting dirty and needs a switch out as well

[worthy wigeon]

We definetly need at least, individual photos of all the Zinc variants.

Since in the blog the photos of the cases are all mixed up with plastic cases

[sage reef]

this intentional?

[marble ruin]

photos to me are little bit pointless colors often look little or sometimes even a lot different but better then nothing @worthy wigeon

[light escarp]

WELP either way its the same color as the steel ones so dw

[real gulch]

wooting 80he will get you a higher rank peak confirmed???

[light escarp]

Since they both look rougly the same at in 50m pace

[light escarp]

??! REAL

[boreal laurel]

Is there gonna be an PBT Keycap version for the assembled Version or do i have to buy it seperatly

[light escarp]

The main one is prebuilt, the zinc alloy one is also prebuilt if i am not wrong, the module one isnt you gotta get it seperately, while the founders edition you get the full thing

[marble ruin]

@boreal laurel it has pbt keycaps in assembled version

[boreal laurel]

Wooting 80HE PCR ABS ($200 | €220)

isnt the abs abt the keycaps?

[buoyant solstice]

That's the case, sport.

ISO will continue to be keycap less prebuilt due to the many languages.

ANSI and... JIS as well? will have preinstalled options. Not that putting keycaps on is difficult.

[real gulch]

just speak english

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/sorryidontspeakitalian-spongebobitalian-spongebobwormy-spongebob-patrickitalian-gif-18339046

[boreal laurel]

How can i find my own twitter post i feel dumb now and dont want do disturb the wooting team

[real gulch]

look on your twitter page?

[low token]

Or use ansi and right alt for your language letters

[sage reef]

can I somehow order JIS module but with both JIS and ISO keycaps? since I guess ISO won't just fit to JIS so easily.

[worthy wigeon]

Im gonna pay for the 80 HE, but, may i know WHY even the assemble version costs a lot more than the 60he and two HE? The assembled plastic version of 80 HE is 220 EUR and the assembled version of the Two HE is 148,75 EUR

[buoyant solstice]

I doubt the configurator will allow you to, since you're ordering something incompatible.
But you could email us after placing the preorder to add the keycaps separately I suppose

[light escarp]

Because of the chip on the keyboard is different than the 2HE, one is faster than the other

[worthy wigeon]

Aren´t both ARM chips ?

[light escarp]

no 1 is MCU

Which costs more than ARM

[buoyant solstice]

What... it's 200€

[light escarp]

I think he meant the prebuilt instead of the module

[worthy wigeon]

Prebuilt

[buoyant solstice]

There is no such thing as a 2HE non-prebuilt.

[worthy wigeon]

The 2HE costs 148,75 EUR

[light escarp]

Cuz of the chip

[real gulch]

wooting one module when

[buoyant solstice]

You're comparing non-VAT prices with VAT prices. The 80HE listed prices for € are with VAT

[sage reef]

anyone else planning to order like JIS with like both keycaps? or i'm the only cool person here

[worthy wigeon]

Allright then

[marble ruin]

@sage reef then i cant use mine keycaps cause of different spacebar :{

[worthy wigeon]

However, there should be some clarification on the website that the products may vary depending on VAT, since it is kinda of false advertising

[sage reef]

it's 4.5u, so not that uncommon to find tho, or make custom

[buoyant solstice]

It'll show just like you're used to.... as soon as the preorder campaign actually begins.

[sleek pelican]

damn zinc is kinda expensive

[onyx spoke]

yeahhh

[worthy wigeon]

Ok hopefully you guys dont update the 80HE hardware in the next months, if not, it will happen the same with the 60 HE. People who preordered it got the AVR Version (myself included) and later we got the ARM Version which had better hardware with features, so we had to buy the new one

[sleek pelican]

idk what version i should get, i dont plan on getting any other keyboard for a long while so may buy the zinc alloy anyway

[sage reef]

this picture here of JIS, there is really no legend line on spacebar?

[buoyant solstice]

No plans to do that. The only reason we had the AVR to ARM issue in the first place, was because the AVR production literally dried up, FORCING us to make the change.

[sleek pelican]

idk, ill have to weigh it up (and the zinc alloy is heavy)

[shell heath]

the new lekker v2 sound thocc?

[worthy wigeon]

Allright then

[boreal laurel]

Would it be worth it to mod the 80 HE in any way or is it so new and good that it doesnt need anything

[worthy wigeon]

Will the PCB be waterproof like the 60He?

[nova nexus]

No the ISO keycaps will not be compatible with JIS.
However, I believe the JIS keycaps will come with a handful of extra keycaps to make them ANSI compatible, but I am not 100% sure on this

[light escarp]

Yes after the founders campaign after a few months or weeks after the mass production the keyboard companies that delve in 3rd party cases will arrive sooner or later

So it is a personal preference thing

[boreal laurel]

i´ve got dielectric grease for stabilisers

[lapis galleon]

I dont think the designs files are released until the keyboard ships

[toxic nebula]

hello anyone have a link to buy the wooting 80HE?

[boreal laurel]

idk if its worth it to buy a custom case

[boreal laurel]

https://wooting.io/post/80he-founders-campaign-sneak-peak

[lapis galleon]

hand lubing and tuning stabs is the only thing I can really think of, dont think theres really any other mods

[light escarp]

I mean like after everything maybe instead of the design files, itd be like an actual thing and theyd just base it off of for molds

IF not, Then idk

[sage reef]

could you actually place an ISO backspace long key over these 2 JIS switch slots?

[buoyant solstice]

no.

[lapis galleon]

you need the design files if you want to make a case that actually fits the keyboard

[real gulch]

16khz next month

[nova nexus]

This situation was forced by a lack of ability to source AVR chips that would have otherwise led to no more keyboards being made

[toxic nebula]

is it better to buy the 80he or the 60he?

[light escarp]

no, they cld just get the ACTUAL hardware and work from there as a measurement

[lapis galleon]

whichever size you like more

[light escarp]

Theres 2 ways to do it, with or without the design files

[toxic nebula]

oh ok ok

[lapis galleon]

its a lot harder to do so, and by the time these companies get their hands on the keyboard the design files would probably be released

[light escarp]

WELP may time tell

[toxic nebula]

thank you but your link doesn't allow me to buy the product I can only see the technical data sheet?

[light escarp]

Its in there, the price will show sooner or later read the article again

[boreal laurel]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[real gulch]

i wonder what kbdfans will come up with

[boreal laurel]

its avalable for pre buy in around 5 days

[lapis galleon]

I wouldnt expect any third party cases for a year a least, if ever

[light escarp]

WELP either way tomorrow is the experimentation day of using cardboard for the prebuilt 😂

[real gulch]

need a holy80

[lapis galleon]

no, no we do not

[light escarp]

HOLY80?! we also gotta 3D print some of the sides to make sure the holes are covered

[marble ruin]

@lapis galleon i mean u can get custom made wooden ones but it will be hella expensive 😄

[light escarp]

IMAGINE TITANIUM case for a keyboard

The Tfue keyboard thats damascus

[lapis galleon]

you could also make your own metal case, but that'll put a huge hole in your wallet

[lapis galleon]

the price would be INSANE

[real gulch]

😡

[light escarp]

Depends on the titanium purity

If were talking grade 1 and esp if its 100% purity THEN UHH YEA

[marble ruin]

its hard to find someone who make for u custom metal case but quiet easy for wooden but still a bit expensive

[light escarp]

if its damascus uhh itd still be insane but not as insane as 100% titanium

[tiny tartan]

Just make a vibranium case

[lapis galleon]

nah I want a tungsten keyboard case

wouldnt even be able to pick it up

[vernal quest]

i want a opium case

[light escarp]

I always wanted a Bamboo case tho

[vernal quest]

diams is better

[light escarp]

YKNOW WHAT DAMASCUS STEEL SCREW IT