🌟│wooting80he

[floral haven]

awesome, im hoping this keyboard will be better than my last

[whole badger]

I have the apex pro tkl, I cant wait for the new 80he!!

excited to see it come along!!

[silk hedge]

Is there gonna be another livestream in 4 days?

[toxic zephyr]

if there was one last week, no

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. On friday.
bi weekly as Fleimi mentions 🙂

[silk hedge]

Just checking

[shell heath]

Q2 would be approximately April May, right?

[buoyant solstice]

Expect late summer given the delays of changing the molds.

[shell heath]

ok ty another question the rgb line on the right u can see the dots that light produces?or is it well blurred?

[midnight iron]

They said actual keyboard would be more diffused than the renders, but that’s all we know

[buoyant solstice]

I don't know specifics, but I do believe we're working to make sure it diffusses. We don't want people staring at raw LEDs.

[nova nexus]

There will be an amount of diffusion but we do want it to be clearly delineated between one LED and the other

[jovial ferry]

Btw since the move from founders campaign to adventure one, is there any ETA when we will get next batch of info about the keyboard? Learn more about specific features etc?

[queen vigil]

isnt that prob just when the campaign starts later this week?

[buoyant solstice]

The campaign is not starting later this week.

#📣│announcements message

[queen vigil]

Oh didnt see that my bad

knew the changes were made but I didn't know the adventure itself was getting pushed back as well

[whole badger]

perfect, my bday is May 10!! perfect reason to get something I want!! YES! haha

[buoyant solstice]

That'd be more like August'ish.

I assume they mean it's possible to preorder by may.

[toxic zephyr]

it's kinda funny how the first delay set in before they even had a chance to start taking orders

[lament saffron]

Better than after they started pre-orders

[toxic zephyr]

for sure but for those thinking Wooting Time wouldn't hit

oh, it hit, before we even got going

we'll get 'em next time

honestly the day wooting releases a product according to the schedule is the day I have lived to see it all

[lament saffron]

I think you are probably confusing Wootings willingness to be transparent and announce stuff early vs other companies who just wait until an item is available and sell it. In the latter case, the community gets zero input/feedback and then you're dealing with multiple revisions and updates. I much prefer the way Wooting goes about it.

[toxic zephyr]

I'm not confusing anything, I've been here since the start, I know exactly how all of this works in comparison to competitors

[lament saffron]

Maybe I misunderstood you then. I took your comment to mean that this delay was due to Wooting's inability to deliver something on-time and not a delay due to feedback from the community which resulted in a schedule shift.

[crimson plume]

May is mid spring

Maybe late spring if you’re feeling frisky

[lament saffron]

Probably depends on where you live. For me in the good ole US of A, May is late spring.

[toxic zephyr]

I'm just poking fun at the situation is all

[winged birch]

It’s Wootin’ Time! 🫨

[safe tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-meme-gif-25742319

[jolly tangle]

Feedback colors and design

[safe tundra]

@jolly tangle Hey man, wtf?#🌟│wooting80he message

[quick grove]

any word on potential dates to make payments on the 80he launch?

i love the 60he so far i need an 80he for dayz now l0l

[solemn musk]

hes the big man, hes allowed

[safe tundra]

I'll wait for his explanation, thank you.

[winged birch]

A feedback channel within a feedback channel. 🤯

[jolly tangle]

I have permission and you have not.

[frail socket]

too powerful

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/moyai-moyai-emoji-moai-moai-meme-moai-emoji-gif-25202348

[frail socket]

and charistmatic. thats why he is the goat

[jolly tangle]

This is all the information they have given us so far.

[winged birch]

Is the campaign part accurate? I know they wanted to push it back but by 3+ months?!

[jolly tangle]

its from the website https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

its suposed to be a month and a half for the changes to the mould

[fallow spire]

We submit the updated 3D files and then mold maker makes the adjustments in mold drawings, we review these adjustments for approval. This is paired with making choices in the type of change.

Mold maker needs about 15 days for the adjustment. We receive the samples next week already. But that doesn’t mean it’s all A OK, high chance there is some issue causing blemish.

If that’s the case, it needs another round. This takes at least another week. And start 8 feb, it’s 2 weeks of spring festival/CNY. Usually a week before it’s already closed for annual clean and maintenance. In addition to workers leaving earlier to go to far away families.

Meaning, no more second round until after spring festival. After each round also need to account for 4 days of review.

1.5 month was a reasonable time with padding to account for above (excluding spring festival).

Not that rare if you look at major brand keyboards. These stick around for at least 3 to 5 years. Our development cycle is generally slow but more thought out. If we opt for a new design, we need 12 to 16 month. With an existing design/idea we can cut down to 8-12 month. Depending on complexity and work load. It takes longer if we just don’t feel it.

This means you’d want the product to stick around longs enough so you can still develop other stuff and eventual replace it with a successor. Trying to stock a huge list of SKU variations generally sucks.

Product Colors, LED, software features. Those are still parts that we can tweak around based on feedback. Perhaps something comes up with us introducing something that also becomes a debatable part. In the end we always just keep tweaking till production.

[jolly tangle]

thank you and jeroen for taking the time to answer my questions in detail. I am looking forward to the next production update

[dense ridge]

Are there no plans to upgrade the case design of 60he in the future too?? And make it like a 80he? Its kind of cool when all products are with identical design

[winged birch]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1195394399706808441

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-yeah-no-yeah-no-disagree-gif-16846087569315350011

“just”, aight.

65% yeah, exploded 65% I don’t think so.

But it could be easier to make a keyboard in the same style as a whole new something something.

[winged birch]

^

There are many 65% HE boards

Not this shit again.

Aesthetics man..

And it’d share the aesthetic with the 80HE

What did u pin?

Calder’s message?

Thought Arden did already.

👍

[crimson plume]

My guy what

[ornate bronze]

that makes no sense

[ebon sluice]

pretty sure he's referring to the side and front profile with the wavy lines

and probably zinc alloy material

[jovial ferry]

I really hope for the zinc case to come in white prefferably something like Alumaze60 Concrete Gray

[midnight iron]

Our church grows. Welcome new members.

[proper pine]

Is there already a price estimate on the zinc version?

[warm vault]

what would be the price for the 80HE

[buoyant solstice]

TBA

[warm vault]

alright

hope its the same price as the 60HE or i would not be able to afford it

[grizzled cove]

it’s going to be more

[warm vault]

that would mean it will cost like 300$ for me

[charred frost]

More keys, higher production cost. Higher production cost, a higher price.

[feral jetty]

when the 80he will be available, can I choose which switches i want with it? i prefer the 45s to the 60s

[warm vault]

i guess

[charred frost]

When the 80he will be available most likely you would be able to get it bare-bones, meaning that you would need to install the switches, keycaps and maybe the case yourself.

[lament saffron]

Just get 2 x 1.5u artisans 🙂

For what it's worth I have asked them to consider releasing/creating Wooting artisans, even in limited quantities.

Understandable, Im just a sucker for artisans 🙂

Dont do it

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-trap-gif-19925444

[tight cypress]

Wouldn't it be better to just shrink Esc and Del to 1u and add another key there?

Insert for example

[lament saffron]

You'll ruin his aesthetic dream

[tight cypress]

Ah, ok

[silk hedge]

Not a fan of compact designs

[tight cliff]

Interested in how the ''modules'' will start to look on this 80HE

[buoyant solstice]

The what now?

[tight cliff]

Or rather Add-ons

[buoyant solstice]

Just ask Ducky 😄

[safe tundra]

@covert pawn 👀 hmmmm?

[rocky skiff]

Hello everyone, I don't know if someone has already answered to this question but do we have a releasing date for the 80HE?

[safe tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/sanders-colonel-sanders-dark-helmet-when-will-then-be-now-how-soon-gif-25062380

[rocky skiff]

thanks!

[covert pawn]

What's up?

[covert pawn]

Oh I would

:3

[buoyant solstice]

The brand

[ornate bronze]

that’s what I thought lmao

[river bay]

Personally, I think this compact is unnecessary, practical and aesthetic tkl is the best, tkl>=80he plan B>75%

[wise laurel]

if tkl were a percentage, what would it be

[drifting phoenix]

85

88/104 = ~85

can also be 87, so 84%

[minor ginkgo]

Lol

[quasi crater]

80 is perfect for me, and the wooting software lets you change any keybind 😄 dont know any other company that lets you do this

[spark hound]

Plenty do, qmk, via. That stuff. But you. Don't normally see that in the regular consumer boards

[marsh sun]

which day can we buy it ?

if we buy it now we get it only at the end of summer right ?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes

[gusty quail]

Unfortunately this layout is also not compatible with the Tofu 84 case because KBDFans put some of their mount points in the function key row.

I think the plain vanilla 84 key compact layout is fine. If one needs separation one can use differently coloured caps or separator caps.

[verbal solar]

thats hot

[floral haven]

If I pre-order on Q2 when would it arrive?

[paper remnant]

thats the best in my opinion aswell! that looks amazing! 😄

[left dagger]

Just got the wooting 60he, did they drop a date ?

[buoyant solstice]

Drop... a date?

For the pre-orders opening? Or delivery expectations?

[left dagger]

Oh sorry I was asking for the wooting 80he, is there a expectations date of coming out ?

[buoyant solstice]

We hope/estimate to deliver the first run of preorders by late summer.

But things can change in either direction as we get closer.

We'll have video updates that explain preorder dates soon.

[left dagger]

💪🙏

[charred frost]

I suggest adding media controls and a knob for the 80he

[floral haven]

If it's possible maybe add a function to see if caps lock is on

[buoyant solstice]

Such as? We already allow users to change the LED on Caps Lock when it is on.

[floral haven]

Oh hey I didn't know that

I was thinking maybe that lighting above the arrow keys and below delete key could be used for stuff like that

[buoyant solstice]

Definitely not unthinkable. We'll go into what the LED bar will be able to do out of box and be changed to in coming videos. 🙂

[floral haven]

But if it's a function already I think is good

That's cool can't wait

[winter coral]

Maybe we can see a capacitive touch sensor behind led bar to control it like we have such things in cars

[gentle pond]

Will there be any more on the new features in the 80he soon? Assume originally we would have heard more this week

[nova nexus]

I'm expecting new information to drop this week, and if not there's always the live stream to get whomever is hosting to spill the beans

[lapis galleon]

you could just say calder

[nova nexus]

I don't know if Calder will be doing tomorrow's live stream or not

Err friday

[buoyant solstice]

Technically universally true. Cause he's the presenter on videos. Leak or not.

[nova nexus]

It's only Wednesay 😐

[quick grove]

If only we could put credit on our account so when new items drop we can spend it, rather trying to hold onto our money until drop xD at least that way i can force myself to get one over the next couple pays for its release hehe

[floral haven]

when are livestreams?

[nova nexus]

Friday every two weeks

[jolly tangle]

this friday

[floral haven]

oo

[echo radish]

lol will there be any aftermarket cases or will wooting provide us with full metal cases as an option?

[tight cliff]

Aftermarket cases, no
Plastic & Zinc Alloy from Wooting as of now

[echo radish]

I wonder how hard will it be to swap that 80he out once wooting does come out with a case for it? Due to that led strip

[tight cypress]

Eh, LEDs will be on the PCB, and diffuser is just one part more

[tight cliff]

The 80HE will be gasket mounted so to find a compatible case is a challenge

[echo radish]

Do you think I’d be able to commission a cnc shop to mill my own case out?

[tight cypress]

I think so, but it will be pretty expensive anyways

[echo radish]

Could work out then

[tight cliff]

Also check pins there's more info compiled there

The LEDs do have a function though

[twin prairie]

Would have been awesome if it was touchsceen and could be used as things like volume controll

[tight cypress]

Touchscreen? On a keyboard? Pass - physical controls are better in such case

[twin prairie]

I love my physical knobs to twist too
But a touchscreen slider would be cool to have too on a keyboard

[tight cypress]

Would be a nice gimmick, but most of the time people are using the keyboard not only not looking at it, but when it usually hidden under desk in keyboard tray, so using it would be... not really nice
I don't have anything against it, it's just I don't really find it practical

[floral haven]

Yeah I hope the price doesn't increase that much

[tawny flame]

Don't tell the wooting hardcore fans here that

[winged birch]

It’s a common opinion to be fair. 😉

[toxic zephyr]

keep complaining how it's not a TKL and I'm sure it'll turn into one 🙃

[lapis crest]

Hello, Regarding the price, will it be at the same range with twohe and 60he?

[buoyant solstice]

Time will tell. We haven't announced a price yet.

[frigid ravine]

i hope its not too expensive xD

if it is, i wish it comes the option to choose an aluminium case if possible (even if it rises the price) , instead of having to buy it separately and discard the original plastic case

[buoyant solstice]

Plastic or Zinc Alloy announced. 🙂

[frigid ravine]

Im dying to get the preorder, knowing it'll be Q2/Q3 is killing me xD

[steady escarp]

I know the typing angle is quite low which is nice, but do you happen to know hte front height of the 80HE? or have dimensions not yet been releaseed

[buoyant solstice]

I do not.

[jovial ferry]

btw was it ever explained in greater length why zinc was chosen over aluminium? Is it only because its heavier?

[toxic zephyr]

because the case design is too expensive to CNC mill in essence

so needed to be a die-castable alloy

[jovial ferry]

Is it too expensive to CNC because of it being 2 parts, rather than one like in 60HE ?

[toxic zephyr]

too expensive because of the angles and axes required to get those angles

[jovial ferry]

oh okay

[toxic zephyr]

also simply not as conducive to mass-producing as one CNC can only make one case at a time, whereas with casting you can pretty much just make it a whole lot cheaper via more molds, which are a fraction of the cost and space of a CNC

you can check the VOD for the last stream if you want to get a better idea, they went over it in quite some detail

[jovial ferry]

thanks alot for in-depth answer

also do we know if the zinc case, will be a 2 part or 1? What I mean is top separated from bottom?

[toxic zephyr]

has to be since it's a gasket-mount design

i.e. the plate is sandwiched between the top and bottom case via some squishy material and is sort of just floating there

[jovial ferry]

oh I see. Nice to know. One last question, so as not to bother you out. Do we know, if we order a zinc version, will it come assembled in it, or will it come in separate package, and we will have both plastic and zinc version?

[toxic zephyr]

we don't know that yet I don't think

I think they will keep the SKUs to a minimum and just have the base model with an option to get the zinc alloy case as an extra thing

[humble cargo]

man if they make 80HE in a gaudy 90s transparent plastic style case I'd be lying if I wasn't tempted

[buoyant solstice]

[midnight iron]

The gameboy transparent nostalgia is real

[humble cargo]

https://i.redd.it/v4ac8zrjufm51.jpg

[drifting phoenix]

Ugh I always hated that transparent look. Ugly

[crimson osprey]

guys i just saw that now the wooting 80HE has like a dot spray white on the case is that the final product?

on the website

[buoyant solstice]

Not final.

They are specks of recycled plastic, which is mixed into the mold itself (meaning it can be on the surface or deeper inside of the mix)

We're still tweaking the colours and amount.

[crimson osprey]

ok that cool and we know when the keyboard drop?

[grizzled cove]

i remember i had a transparent controller for my ps2 and that shit was fire but id prolly not want that for a board

classics

[lapis galleon]

I can only imagine how yellow the clear white one would be today

[grizzled cove]

i have no idea, its been chillin in a box somewhere for years prolly

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on the plastic.

Plenty of decades old, clear plastic that's good as the day it was molded.

[ancient breach]

Also as far as I understand yellowing is primarily caused by uv, so if it's in a box somewhere it would handle things better.

[toxic zephyr]

I second this motion

[ruby nebula]

is the wooting 2he the same thing as the 80he?

[wise laurel]

Shrug

[drifting phoenix]

about the only thing the same is the fact that they're both hall effect keyboards made by Wooting

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[dense quarry]

Same technology different layout

[kind wasp]

Can i put it in this case??

[verbal solar]

lol

[floral haven]

what time's the livestream gonna be

[grave pelican]

What is the polling rate for the keyboard? 4000hz or 8000hz？

[midnight iron]

Unannounced still

[glad fable]

i bet it's still 1000hz

[midnight iron]

i'd honestly bet on not

an upgraded mcu with room for them to play with higher scanning rates would make a lot of sense

[frail socket]

id bet its still 1K

[toxic zephyr]

no

[wind tiger]

UV is for sure the primary cause, but they can also just gas out

[formal geode]

https://tenor.com/view/khabib-not-me-its-god-gif-12646714

[white furnace]

Is the 60he 1000hz?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[formal geode]

there won't be a difference between 1000hz and 8000hz just more power

[fresh nimbus]

People be making auxiliary power units for more polling soon 🙈

[tight cypress]

Just plug-in keyboard straight to the PCIe

[toxic zephyr]

hell, plug straight into mains

imagine the power of a 240V keyboard

[tight cypress]

I bet ya - if it were plugged into the mains, the Reddit dwellers would complain that it's dropping inputs every 1/50th of a second because of 50Hz AC

[jolly tangle]

@buoyant solstice any more news on livestream later today?

[buoyant solstice]

News?

What information are you missing?

[jolly tangle]

time

[buoyant solstice]

Roughly same time every time.

[spark hound]

Roughly is the keyword

[buoyant solstice]

Psssssst...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbC4UpRDf48

[short mural]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-introuble-ohno-shocked-whoops-gif-9056781886829673082

[jolly tangle]

@tight cypress wake up

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-waking-up-gif-23092154

[humble cargo]

calder casually doing some urban exploration while explaining gasket mounting

[nova nexus]

Oh man I feel this pupper

[tight cypress]

I've never expected to see 2HE in a dishwasher, and yet here we are

I really love the sandwich pad though

[sage reef]

the way he talks about sensitivity to disturbance makes me think some magnet nearby won't happen. still that mysterious compartment tho, we'll see what it's for.
but maybe they do those magnet tests anew exactly because of moved arrows.

[tight cypress]

I think quite the contrary, you'd want to have a good shielding from other devices and from the keyboard itself to ensure any type of magnetic add-on will work

[sage reef]

nah, that shouldn't be the issue, it's the disturbance with switches that is the issue, but maybe that's why they test it anew now with moved arrows.

but imagine if it is a magnet there, and they still moved arrows closer, without even testing disturbance, that would be extra funny.

[tight cypress]

Hmmm... Haven't thought of that, PCB is pretty sensitive after all
I thought I wouldn't like how it'll look with moved arrows, but I've come to really like it

[sage reef]

thockholm keydrome

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-prince-bling-shaking-my-head-disagreeing-gif-17059118961864956121

[supple ember]

[fallen forge]

look up a bit about injection molding, it'll clear up what the "mysterious compartment" is for

[toxic zephyr]

still on about it huh

[sage reef]

completely not something related to that. you clearly see a very deliberate and well shaped compartment, with no bottom for like wire access
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193941977083953193/1194639980514005093/mysterious_compartment.png?ex=65c38b2e&is=65b1162e&hm=fdf5ca9c04000f1693173563a48878de16efa5659b6a6553271b3d8df8ad99cc&

[buoyant solstice]

[fallen epoch]

The secret compartment is for cookies

When you get hungry over those long gaming sessions

[spark hound]

That just looks like standoffs or sonething

[fallen forge]

a very deliberate and well shaped compartment of structural nature

80he is full of secrets it seems

[sage reef]

it could also be done like for strength

[buoyant solstice]

If I had to guess, several of these are for the gasket mounting that Calder mentioned in today's video?

[sage reef]

the side one can't be for that tho, maybe for like strengthening body

[silk hedge]

Think synta is just messing with ya

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah probably a mix of both.

[steady escarp]

https://x.com/WootingKB/status/1750880982213783767?s=20

wooting (@WootingKB) on X

What is Gasket Mounting?
And how do we implement it in our Wooting 80HE? 🤔

The man, the myth, and the legend, Calder, will explain it all for you! ✨

Twitter · Jan 26, 2024, 1:58 PM

[buoyant solstice]

Tsh... late to the picnic.

#🌟│wooting80he message

[fallen forge]

that's what i've been trying to say, ye

strength and alignment bits since you wouldn't have just straight/flat walls holding shape on their own, it all requires reinforcements

[steady escarp]

😦

[sage reef]

if yo see in video, there is nothing in the spot of that compartment with gasket etc

[buoyant solstice]

[sage reef]

no you never said this, you just said injection molding spots

[silk hedge]

Waiting for the livestream so calder can leak something

[steady escarp]

when is the stream?

[tight cypress]

Soon

[steady escarp]

yay

[tight cypress]

See? #📣│announcements message

[spark hound]

Now

[steady escarp]

ITS LIVE

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[silk hedge]

Damn calder got booted

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-its-alive-ace-ventura-pet-detective-gif-3447515

[silk hedge]

To many leaks

[fallen forge]

last time the "compartment" was brought up i mentioned it's for structural reasons (same today) due to how injection molding works (you can't mold parts that are too thick so you settle for thinner walls with reinforcements, etc)

either way i'll stop with the offtopic now, my apologies

[sage reef]

but I think now I see, it's just something that holds gasket down, so it doesn't maybe vibrate or something

so yeah no magnet there almost for sure. and all this "injection molding for structure, something" is just nonsense

[sage reef]

I mean yeah, since it's made like of bendy silicon i guess, you just hold it a bit down with those plastic thingies so it doesn't like flapper/vibrate when typing
but not sure, why stick out that silicon like that to be held by those plastic thingies, isn't it already held in place between switch plate and pcb. maybe to distribute vibrations and stuff to the edges of kb as well, so it's not all in center.

so yeah, conclusion is, those plastic thingies are there to be in contact with gasket silicon and absorb vibration, so it's spread better to the edges and top of kb, also relevant with sound i guess, acts also a bit like sound-normalizer.

[toxic zephyr]

are you sure it's not a mystery compartment for a magnetic brainwave reader

[buoyant solstice]

[sage reef]

obviously it didn't make complete sense to just have some cosmetic magnetic addon, for no other purpose than cosmetic and to make arrows better.
it's also not possible to have a volume knob there, because first you can't have it stick up like keys do, because you can very easily accidentally turn it when shifting hand to arrows, ot when using arrows, etc. and you also can't have it stick out on the right side of kb, because you can sometimes touch it with mouse, especially when gaming.
so yeah nothing really added up completely, unless you would switch the right part of keyboard to the left (80HEaven), but then you still can't really have magnet because of HE interference.

[buoyant solstice]

[tight cypress]

I still prefer the theory with a cookie compartment

[sage reef]

but we still have Knob confirmed, so it's probably similar to that cork design that replaced Pause key, or really any other key if you want - but this is something that should have revealed the full keyboard image with, and released an image at an angle instead first, so people couldn't complain about/focus on arrows. But also since there is maybe nothing there to the right of arrows, should have done different layout to begin with, just exploded arrows, not this awkward shift to right, with big space next to Ctrl etc. (but exploded would also have this too big space next to Ctrl, so you would have to move the whole bottom row 0.25u to the right, or use 6.50u Spacebar)

actually thought about moving the whole bottom row to the right already yesterday, maybe it looks fine, reminded me to test it.

[lapis galleon]

no its a camera so mansen can ensure you're treating your keyboard properly

[buoyant solstice]

[covert pawn]

Ducc

[grizzled cove]

they put the shungite there

[oak wind]

pour un budget de 250 vous me coonseiller quoi comme keyboard en pré build tkl avec un plutôt bon son et une bonne réactivité

[buoyant solstice]

Parle vous my frencaious. But this is an English server. 😉

[tight cypress]

80he is TKLish and should be in €250 range

[humble cargo]

wooting macropad when

[open lintel]

looks half bad

sry but its just more volume for no reason

nah

just keep as is honestly

[oak wind]

O ye ik my message was ´ is there any nice prebuilt tkl keyboard for less than 250 and with a good sound and a great quality

[buoyant solstice]

Yes I know. My point was "Please speak english here"

[open lintel]

idk so much talk about the layout when there’s 0 problem with it

[sage reef]

forgot to move lightbar tho

[open lintel]

then there’s a delay for the most useless change I have ever seen in a board

like just appreciate it for what it is honestly

and let me buy it already

[buoyant solstice]

Too late.

[open lintel]

damn

[sage reef]

moved bottom row 0.25 to the right and exploded arrows, doesn't look half bad
(but you can make Spacebar like 6.50u too instead, just that not standard and it's already too long)

[open lintel]

doesnt look half bad

are the corners usually this rounded?

[floral haven]

Is it only in this color?

[open lintel]

and whats up with left ctrl

[open lintel]

no

[nova nexus]

Name does not check out

[sage reef]

attached by same gap tho

[nova nexus]

soooo not attached

[open lintel]

i like my chicken grilled but the raw kind

layout is great its not perfect but no layout is

just let it launch

[floral haven]

any chance the left ctrl could be shifted juuust a bit the the left?

[open lintel]

it’s normal on the real one

[floral haven]

oh nvm its good then

[open lintel]

idk why it took a sidestep here

at least it better be hang on now you have me second guessing

[floral haven]

As long as the keyboard performs good

[open lintel]

i swear if theres another delay because of this I’m getting the 60he and a macropad

im getting sick of waiting

[sage reef]

because it's more appealing to have all those keys 1.25. but can do spacebar 6.50 instead, just that not standard and spacebar already too long and should ideally be like 4.25

[open lintel]

no it rly isnt

better to have it standard

[floral haven]

what were the leaks given today on livestream?

[open lintel]

looks nicer, feels less awkward, chill as hell

[open lintel]

no idea

[buoyant solstice]

Erik face reveal.

[floral haven]

:0

[open lintel]

ah cheers

[buoyant solstice]

Aside from that - See the youtube video update on the 80HE from earlier today.

[spark hound]

Biggest shock of this Stream? No technical difficulties

[floral haven]

I just gotta wait 4 more months to preorder

[open lintel]

oh so I’m not seeing it on my desk till like mid-late april

[buoyant solstice]

See what - the 80HE? More like end of summer more like.

[open lintel]

best case scenario if an angel is bringing it to me

[open lintel]

oh cheers then I’m ordering the 60

no point in waiting I’ll have enough reason to upgrade in september

dk why i waited so long

[fallen forge]

wooting ticklish

[sage reef]

not just numpad, guess would have to be this

[buoyant solstice]

Ah yes... a TKF board.

Ten Key ... full

[sage reef]

would buy this

but not really, since 60HE still missing F row, better make an exploded 75HE.
but not really, since still Linear switches, and Tactile are better for long non-gaming use, so will have to switch between keyboards regardless.

[oak wind]

o ok sry

[shut marlin]

Does anyone know when the Wooting 80HE will be released? Please mention me in the answer so I can make sure I see it.

[buoyant solstice]

No.

Keep checking in with the weekly updates on YouTube for now

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[lapis galleon]

™️

[shut marlin]

Ok, thank you

[tiny tartan]

Any summaries for today's live?
Tried using chatgpt but it wasn't recognizing the video link to summarize it

[nova nexus]

Here you go 🙂
ChatGPT powered notes on the livestream from 26th of January.
https://chat.openai.com/share/d8b153a5-f4f7-4b0a-8ac6-7c651c0658e2

[tiny tartan]

Thank you!

[spark hound]

Oh wow, that's actually pretty good

[wooden spindle]

I wonder what the pros of the friction mount thingy are

[lapis galleon]

check the new video in #📣│announcements they go over it somewhat

[wooden spindle]

@lapis galleon I did see though I am unsure - isnt it best to do both a friction mount for the acoustincs and softnes yet still also screw the PCB in?

[winged birch]

Friction would be less bouncy than the gasket mount.

Not sure what you mean with screw in the PCBA.

Both the gasket and friction mount of the80HE wouldn’t use screws. Not sure if the 80HE would even have screw holes in the PCB.

[kind wasp]

Hello

[chilly thistle]

"colder" why not just get a jacket?

[kind wasp]

surprise the 80HE costs a liver

[verbal solar]

Are you his personal photographer

[wet tangle]

$100k keyboard 🥶

[coral ibex]

when is the 80he dropping I thought there was a countdown and it's not released?

[kind wasp]

watch the site again it got updated

[silk hedge]

The more i think about it the more i want a wooting fight stick

[grizzled cove]

average baus fan

[fallen forge]

i'm kinda tempted to just butcher 60he when 80he arrives

de-solder a bunch of HE sensors, put them on a separate pcb through wire extensions from the original board, arrange it all in a hitbox layout

[silk hedge]

yes but a official product with all console compatibility

plus i'd like to adjust the sensibility on the top part of a stick to make missinputs more difficult, no accidental jumps

[fallen forge]

was gonna say that would be pc only thing (which is fine for me), but yeeeeah

[supple ember]

would it tho?

[fallen forge]

actually, i haven't tried connecting 60he to any console so i might be wrong

[supple ember]

some console games detect keyboards

[silk hedge]

Yeah a customizable fighstick from wooting is something they should definitley look into

would hit that niche market like osu, tho it might be less of a niche than osu lol

[fallen forge]

btw, razer made one with optical switches, but of course it doesn't have rapid trigger despite their keyboards utilizing it

[silk hedge]

razer beeing razer, they also made it expensive af

with some feedback from players and pros + some research into customizability, wooting could easily dominate another competitive esport scene lol

[midnight iron]

don't a lot of competitive players already use their own arcade board type things

[silk hedge]

wdym?

[midnight iron]

they get boards which are made to mimic arcade controls on a board

[silk hedge]

well yeah that's what we are talking about a he fightsick from wooting

[fallen forge]

Fightstick market at the moment is full of 300 dollar overpriced "premium" products, or good cheaper offerings that are constantly out of stock (due to them being small Etsy shops), or low quality aliexpress junk

Many options also cost an arm and a leg to ship to Europe, the situation so bad many people just make their own devices through 3d printing and laser cutting, and customisation of existing products is done by butchering and drilling into your 200 dollar hitbox

[silk hedge]

Damn

wooting plz look into this

[midnight iron]

oh you mean make a whole thing from scratch, yeah that'd be interesting, although tough competition there

[silk hedge]

mmm im not so sure about that

if they work together with pros and release a way less expensive product that is in stock, not to mention hall effect technology + wooting software im sure they'll sweep the market

[midnight iron]

i think less expensive will be trickiest part

[silk hedge]

• there might be soon a fighting game to attract a lot of casual masses

[silk hedge]

if your competition is 350 bucks for a joystick and 8 buttons there has to be some way they can beat that price

i dont know enough about fighsticks but most of them are expensive af for seemingly no reason

like this is 350 dollars

must be the epic gamer rgb

[fallen forge]

would be less competition than with keyboards since all of the current fightsticks lack features that wooting has, there's no contactless switches, no rapid trigger, etc

even the premium products that cost 200-300 bucks still use the same parts as some opensource diy solutions and function the same (while costing many times less)

but i digress wooting staff looking for 80he feedback and instead having to scroll through THIS

[midnight iron]

competition wouldn't be razer

it'd be hitbox https://www.hitboxarcade.com/ at $250

[silk hedge]

you're right i'll stop now, but someone should make a feedback post about this

[verbal oyster]

fightsticks also have diy options for even cheaper for those who wouldn't mind getting their hands dirty

[spark hound]

Problem with those is that's it's a niche product, low volume. So price has to be high

[tawdry fiber]

Wait, price for 80HE has been annouced already?

[nova nexus]

No

[fallen forge]

similar situation to uwu i'd imagine, but arguably fg community is bigger than osu one

[spark hound]

Uwu is a very "simple" and small device

[sage reef]

nah, this is competition, they have other too and with less buttons, like $50-80
https://haute42.com/haute-pad-t-series/

[supple ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBuDH66p05w

where have i heard this before?

funnily enough the reason they think that controller is like cheating could be replaced by a stick with he sensors

then again it might end up getting banned in the pro scene xd

[sage reef]

https://haute42.com/haute-board/ like $30
(not this one exactly, this is new I guess)

[fallen forge]

those are the cheap aliexpress ones i was talking about, race to the bottom kinda stuff, no rapid trigger, no ps5 compatibility, whatever features it has is thanks to open source firmware they're using

[sage reef]

pretty sure it has ps5 with something cheap extra

well yeah, but razer doesn't have rapid trigger either, but also it doesn't matter that much especially since low profile

no those ones I linked aren't "race to the bottom", they are actually good

[supple ember]

wooting could actually bring back the stick with he sensors since currently directional buttons seem to be prefered

or make both a stick and a button version

[sage reef]

yeah wooting could do this, since razer just plays it safe for some reason. but it's gonna take them 1-2 years tho.

[supple ember]

https://tenor.com/view/offset-rapper-dancing-money-rich-gif-17942607

[sage reef]

@fallen forge it's like people asking "why hitboxes so expensive" but then I link this, and you say "race to the bottom" lol. those are legit ones, Haute42, according to reviews and stuff.

you can't even disable SOCD with Razer one, since it adheres to SF6 regulations, in cooperation with them (but not familiar enough with stuff, how games read this input etc)

it's just a big plastic box with less pcb and keys than some keyboard, ofc you can make it much cheaper like this, it's just that I guess those first ones to market benefit from monopoly etc.

[fallen forge]

maybe being so dismissive of them is not fair, my bad, but they're yet another one of those 'pcb with whatever mx switch slapped between two pieces of acrylic and gp2040-ce firmware'

there are many products like that all doing the same thing whilst trying to capture people with the lowest price, some are of etsy-diy variety like flatbox or hypercube, some are a bit more upscale like snack box micro or mpress nano, they're all alright but also diy vibes all over it

what i'd like to see is more of a victrix pro or nacon daija (that you'd be able to purchase in EU for reasonable money!), more full sized comfy device, but with wooting features, possibly an option to have it with lever

so far razer are the only ones who kinda went into it, but took a common L with how that thing functions and how much it costs

[sage reef]

but also like for fighting games, you should use hitbox only right, with stick it's just worse, slower etc, can't do same things.
anyway, too much offtopic now

[supple ember]

well 360º he lever with rapid trigger would easily compete with the buttons

[wind tiger]

You don't know why hitbox is so good ig

It's not just about spamming directional keys

[supple ember]

if you are talking about socd that depends on how each game handels it

wooting could just make a controller where you can switch out buttons for a stick

[lapis galleon]

Mansen can you rename this channel to fighting_game_controllers?

[heavy flax]

can you guys make a white one :happy: Happy

[tight cliff]

Do plates make a big difference in Gasket mounted keyboards?

[kind wasp]

why should it not?

[tight cliff]

Was thinking that the Gaskets would make the keyboard sound quieter & feel different and that the plate wouldn't affect it as much? only feel stiffer depending on the material

Been trying to find videos about different Gasket plates and such, i've only owned Tray Mounts so trying to understand. I prefer FR4 plates

[lapis galleon]

the switches are still sitting in the plate in vibrating against it

so yes plate still matters

a steel plate would still give some ping even in gasket mount

[tight cliff]

Ok i see , got into this mechanical keyboard ''scene'' in 2022 so got a bit of catching up 😅

[buoyant solstice]

Has not started yet. 🙂

[blissful olive]

Thank you for answering so fast 😎😎😎

[buoyant solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/@Wooting/videos

Watch the three most recents videos, last to new to catch up. They're pretty short. 🙂

[flat viper]

from watching the recent updates i am beyond excited for the 80he

[oak wind]

´ is there any nice prebuilt tkl keyboard for less than 250 and with a good sound and a great quality

[tight cliff]

Would probably be better to ask this question in https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/450931575719198721

The 80HE just look nicer than ''TKL'' imo. hopefully even better with the Add-ons, the software of Wooting is unbeatable atm.

[oak wind]

They delete the yellow strap 🫠

[tight cliff]

I'd like the ''yellow strap'' to be Brass coloured lol

Currently using the 60HE main layer with a "bronze" colour

[toxic zephyr]

think for that price you want to look at keychron maybe, could build a neo80 for that price as well, it's in GB now

[oak wind]

Thanks

[oak wind]

Yes

[golden coyote]

Is the 80he sort of low profile and is there an ETA?

[worthy pine]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

all info will be there and also in wootings weekly updates via wootings youtube

[slender shuttle]

does the 80 he have rgb backlight

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. Just like our other keyboards do. Under each key.

[slender shuttle]

Oh amazing

[ornate bronze]

Is there any performance difference?

[still dawn]

when is the 80 expected to come out?

[frail socket]

between tomorrow and never

[verbal solar]

where did u get the strap

[lapis crest]

is it possible to choose which Lekker switches i want to have on when ordering the 80he?

because, some people prefer L45 and don't want to go through the hassle of dismounting the entire keyboard

[quasi crater]

I planned to just buy the L45 switches so i have both, its easy to change them

[midnight iron]

They said there will be barebones option with no switches so you can pick your own choice

[cerulean epoch]

Do we have a rough idea when it comes out?

[lapis galleon]

Q2, around summer more specifically

but expect Q2-3

well, when it ships I mean

when its available for preorder I dont think is known yet

[still dawn]

you think its worth waiting for the 60he/ preordering it. or just waiting for the 80he

[lapis galleon]

thats entirely up to you

[still dawn]

are they going to work the same just difference is the size?

[lapis galleon]

the 60he would get to you faster, but if you need the extra keys the 80he has then wait for it

[lapis galleon]

according to wooting theres "some industry breaking surprises under the hood" which makes it seem like it would have better performance

those secrets have yet to be revealed

[still dawn]

sounds good. I might as well just wait then

no point of buying a new keyboard just to buy another one a few months later

thanks for the help

[lapis galleon]

fair

[lapis galleon]

np

[tight cliff]

It's included with the Alumaze60

[cerulean epoch]

sorry what does q2-3 mean?

[tight cliff]

Q2, Second Quarter, April - June
Q3, Third Quarter, July - September

[opaque panther]

Is this keyboard expected to release during the summer/fall?

[tight cliff]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[oak wind]

Does the 80he we will able to customize it ?

[buoyant solstice]

In what sense

[cerulean epoch]

just like the 60he, will we be able to choose our own stuff like key switches or cases etc? will it also be wireless?

[tiny gorge]

I don't think any of their keyboards will ever be wireless.

I don't understand the novelty of wireless keyboards. Like, where are you taking it in your house? You taking your keyboard to the kitchen?

[cerulean epoch]

bro it’s just looks nice in your setup without cables bro

[toxic zephyr]

you'll be able to pick from a plastic light or dark case, and a dark zinc-alloy case

at launch however, and maybe never, there won't be 3rd party cases

switches you can pick at your leisure with the barebones option

[tiny gorge]

This might be the broke in me speaking but that's crazy people will spend $50+ more just to get rid of a wire on their desk. 😅

With my current setup I can't see my keyboard cable at all.

Aren't there adapters you could use?

[toxic zephyr]

huh?

[cerulean epoch]

nah that’s true, i wasn’t going to get wireless but i was just asking if that was an option you know, like wireless mouse or headsets it’s just easier to use etc idk some people like

[tiny gorge]

Ah okay, yeah understandable. My reason for saying they probably would never go wireless is because of whatever performance impact there may be and the redesigns they may need to make. Though wireless is almost as good as wired latency anyway.

[lapis galleon]

wireless just doesnt seem practical for HE now since it takes too much power

your battery life would suck. on top of that you would need a battery which makes it harder to ship.

[white bronze]

pls tell me we'll have the same slope on the 80HE !:

I used a shitton of kb until I find that perfect slope/angle. I'm looking for something between the Two HE (what I have atm) and the 60HE (need arrows keys), but I fear they screw up the slope of the kb

[lapis galleon]

please dont cross post

[toxic zephyr]

the typing angle? it's 2.8°, 6° or 11° depending on the feet you install or don't install

[white bronze]

no feet

[toxic zephyr]

what

[white bronze]

I did not deploy the feets

[toxic zephyr]

I am not talking about the two he

[white bronze]

That's sad because the feeling of the slope is too great to replace it for something else

[midnight iron]

I’m confused, do you rest on top of the slope somehow?

[toxic zephyr]

guess it's not a product for you then

[midnight iron]

Or is he talking pure typing angle

[white bronze]

my thumb does sometimes. the feeling is great and the look is cool tho

[toxic zephyr]

you mean the wedge/chamfer design in the front? well clearly the 80he doesn't have that, as is plain from the renders

[white bronze]

What annoys me is that the slope they showed us kind of look like your typical ducky/Keychron imo

[midnight iron]

80he doesn't have slope or the same angle as two he, so might not be what you're after

[buoyant solstice]

2HE uses a top plate that covers the entire top. Unlike the 60HE and 80HE.

This is similar to the 60HE.

[white bronze]

True, yeah that was what I was trying to explain (your image)

[steady escarp]

Do you know the front height?

[tiny nacelle]

so still no date on when it’s dropping ?

[buoyant solstice]

Correct.

Keep checking in with weekly update videos.

[opaque panther]

Please during the summer break 🙏

[buoyant solstice]

Last year it was in april.

[olive oxide]

Is there a rough estimate to when the keyboard will come out?

[toxic zephyr]

Q3 currently

[mystic wave]

Will the case still be plastic like the 60HE? will there also be an alumaze case for the 80HE close to launch?

[tawny flame]

Guess u didn’t read anything on discord or the website… two second search

[buoyant solstice]

So do that. Or keep quiet maybe?

[buoyant solstice]

The 80HE will be available in plastic or a metal zinc alloy case. Final colour options to follow.
We do weekly update videos over on YT.

[mystic wave]

thank you

[opaque panther]

Is the price of the 80HE set yet?

[jolly tangle]

no

[heavy flax]

is this keyboard gonna have a pc plate?

[midnight iron]

Yeah they confirmed pc plate

[heavy flax]

les go

[open lintel]

no crumbs…

[fallen forge]

i'm assuming there's no final dimensions released yet as there's no final keyboard produced, but here's my guess based on renders from the latest video

take it with a pinch of salt though and wait for official info

[warped kernel]

wooting socks soon ?

[lapis galleon]

wooting thigh highs when?

[jolly tangle]

thigh highs?

no one would buy that

[fallen epoch]

But what if they’re lekkers, rapid trigger thigh highs?

[lapis galleon]

from the people that made the UwUting? yeah I think they might lol.

[fallen forge]

take control thigh highs for all the programmers

[heavy flax]

Are screw in stabs confirmed?

[rose crane]

wich switches are the 80He using

[sage reef]

since delayed, will probably have some improved switches, also probably some tighter stem housing.

[buoyant solstice]

Lekkers same as our other keyboards.

[rose crane]

hmm okey

a newer one or the same

[wooden spindle]

In the video they said a new Version 2 of the Lekkers

Should be available * for the keyboard

[nova nexus]

Lekker switch improvements are a separate and unrelated project to the 80HE, but it will benefit from it

(just like all of our HE keyboards)

[lapis galleon]

is this just like gradual switch improvement over time or will there be some form of announcement when the switches get updated?

[nova nexus]

The specifics of the changes or how they will be implemented are not yet made public

Nor do I have any specific timeline for when such information will be made available

[lapis galleon]

gotcha

[silk hedge]

You talked things out with gateron?

[winter coral]

Gateron Status Update would be very nice

[trim sedge]

clueless

[tight cypress]

I think so - there's no reason to keep 2 nearly identical SKUs, just like with 60HE now becoming 60HE+

Depends if Lekkers v2 will show up somewhere near 80HE release or later

[lapis galleon]

I'm hoping before, would be odd to release new switches after the first batch goes out

[wet mulch]

80he uses 6.25u spacebars right

[worthy wigeon]

Do we have an ETA for the preorders to begin?

[jovial ferry]

No, but it will be closer to the launch so Q2 most likely

[wise laurel]

Will the 80he be as competitive as the 60he

[jovial ferry]

From what we were told it will have a number of improvements so it should be the same or even better

[silk hedge]

Or just get the barebones kit and switches separate

[minor ginkgo]

I've been out of the loop for a bit, did they ever say what the special add on for the right side of the board was going to be?

[jovial ferry]

Not really, we do know there will be a knob addon, but no clue on how exactly it will work

[minor ginkgo]

Okay, thank you

[silk hedge]

I meant switches from a different brand

I doubt they will be better than jades

[lapis galleon]

iirc jades and lekkers are made out of the same materials, but jades sound higher (they techincally sound deeper yes, but its because that lekker chatter is removed. take the switch tape modded lekkers for example, imo those are deeper than jades) because of their closed bottom. if they could get rid of that lekker chatter I think we would have a really good switch on our hands.

[silk hedge]

They would also have to close the bottom

[lapis galleon]

why?

[silk hedge]

Sound

[lapis galleon]

I just told you jades sound worse because of their closed bottom

they just sound better than lekkers

also if they did close the bottom of the switches it would decrease travel, causing isssues with wootility with people using older switches.

[silk hedge]

Why would they sound higher because of a closed bottom?

[lapis galleon]

because the stem is hitting the bottom iirc

all I know is that switch tape modded lekkers, which are pretty much lekkers with no chatter, sound deeper than jades.

[lapis galleon]

I should specify, by higher I mean clackier

[dire lodge]

does anyone know how much the 80he will cost

[spark hound]

No, not announced yet

[dire lodge]

how much would you think it would cost

[spark hound]

I have no idea, some peeps here have made educated guesses. I can be arsed to use the search

[sleek pelican]

will the founder 80hes include them or should i wait it out

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[grizzled cove]

like 200 - 220

[dire lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-tank-how-much-huh-come-again-excuse-me-gif-10734793

[dense ridge]

180-200

probably under 200! 195 i think... 180-195

[dire lodge]

Let’s hope

[toxic zephyr]

219.99

[dense ridge]

too expensive

[toxic zephyr]

unlucky

[dense ridge]

that 19.99 will cost them too much sales

[toxic zephyr]

I'm sure you know best

[dense ridge]

it has to be under 200 to force ppl to buy it

[toxic zephyr]

yup you're smart

[dense ridge]

i am sure they will not sell in more then 200

otherwhise it will scare away too many customers

[toxic zephyr]

yes

[dense ridge]

u will see dude

[toxic zephyr]

I don't really care

it'll be what it'll be, my guess is what it is

[jolly tangle]

119.99

final offer

else wooting goes bankrupt

[fallen forge]

people buying $200 peripherals fussing over $20

[spark hound]

20 buckaroos is 20 buckaroos. Doesn't matter if it's 10% or 50%

Money is absolute

[fallen forge]

true, but even 60he costs over 200 in europe, hard to tell if that psychological barrier of 200 even plays into anything at that point

[nova nexus]

I used a coupon today for 50 cents 🤷

[minor lion]

why would i ever buy a zinc case when plastic is lighter

[fallen forge]

AND transparent!

[minor lion]

I mean I have a steel corsair keeb and it's sooooooo heavy

[humble cargo]

not really feeling the trend of heavy metal cases either

[nova nexus]

What?

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beesly-theyre-the-same-picture-the-same-picture-they-are-the-same-picture-gif-20830121

The timeline for switch improvements is not publicly available

I don't understand what is confusing about this

Switch improvements are being worked on
also the 80HE is being worked on

the 80HE does not depend on the switch improvements, and the switch improvements do not depend on the 80HE

lol

[amber merlin]

Oh switch improvement good to hear

Are u this stupid or someone holds your hand ?

[grizzled cove]

b4 u call someone stupid u should change ur entire discord profile

[buoyant solstice]

Now now folks.

[grizzled cove]

mb mansen i got outta pocket again

[buoyant solstice]

This is one me mostly. I was under the understanding that we were aiming for improving the switches (in some way) to coincide with the 80HE release. But I am not part of product development, and even I can't keep track of everything that calder leaks.

[amber merlin]

Understandable

The only thing is that somewhat the switches gonna be improved

[grizzled cove]

p much, the hope is just that it gets worked on and finished/released when the 80he drops

but alas

[buoyant solstice]

Keep checking in with our weekly video updates. 🙂

That's where the bulk of information will be for now.

[steady escarp]

can u just have calder leak some more stuffs rn

we're fiending for this board

[winged birch]

The KS-20U switches will have been available for months when the 80HE starts production. The 80HE will be available in a barebones version without switches and keycaps so if Wooting decides not to sell the 80HE with the KS-20U switches you can buy them separately.

I highly doubt they won’t as the KS-20s/Lekkers aren’t quite popular. 😂

[lapis galleon]

they arent going to sell the 80he with KS-20U switches

they have specified its going to be lekkers

[winged birch]

Lekkers are KS-20s.

[lapis galleon]

yea?

[winged birch]

If they rename an already existing switch it’ll still be that switch. 🤦‍♂️

[winged birch]

Yes.

[lapis galleon]

wooting themselves said they had no idea about the release of jades or KS-20Us

[winged birch]

Yes because Gateron did not communicate their upcoming products with Wooting.

[lapis galleon]

yea

so why would wooting just copy KS-20Us then?

also KS-20s are a lekker copy, not the other way around

[winged birch]

Lekkers are made by Gateron brother.

[lapis galleon]

I know

[winged birch]

LOL?

KS-20 switches are originally from the collaboration of Steelseries and Gateron. Gateron made the KS-20 switches for Steelseries who renamed them “Omni-Point” switches. Gateron later sold those same switches to Wooting with a different stem color.

Also Wooting is not going to boycott Gateron because of their lack of communication.

[lapis galleon]

oh I actually was not aware of that

[winged birch]

Now you are. 👍

[lapis galleon]

I mean we dont really know if they're going to use KS-20Us, and imo it seems pretty unlikely since it seems like they are making their own designs for improved switches.

[winged birch]

Well, that’s what I was talking about. If they won’t ship or sell the KS-20Us separately and don’t have their own “better” switch ready when the 80HE launches then the barebones version will be most popular.

So the whole discussion of people being unsure about which switches the 80HE will come with doesn’t really matter.

[lapis galleon]

im gonna assume with how far out the 80he is that they would probably use the new switches. I doubt they want another first batch/first few batches being worse again.

[cerulean epoch]

what’s the actual difference between 60he and 80he except the extra keys?

[buoyant solstice]

Tune in to our weekly videos to find out.

[cerulean epoch]

grrr

[jovial ferry]

if you click on pinned messages, you have a message from sno | jed there, that lists some of it

[cerulean epoch]

what is a gasket mount thing?

still don’t understand

[polar storm]

this phrase is already on shortcut right?

[buoyant solstice]

I don't really used shortcuts. I just type real fast 😄

[polar storm]

whats ur wpm?

[buoyant solstice]

Very fast but inconsistent 😄

[icy badger]

Hellloo

Im sorry for asking, but went will we get 80he ?

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[icy badger]

Been using 60he but have to use another tkl for F key and arrow

Just found out about 80he

[jovial ferry]

Q3 most likely

[tight cypress]

All updates will be announced on Discord and on website https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[icy badger]

Well time to work extra hours, I want to mod the f out of 80he

I have to keep switching between keyboard so annoying

[jovial ferry]

Yeah im in the same boat. Love 60HE and its the best quality keyboard I have used so far. But in my work im using all the missing keys too much, so I want them pernamently there

[icy badger]

Yessssss, I absolutely love the 60he, try razer,yuki and ss it close but can't compare to 60he . Well asian new year eve coming to over work myself for a new keyboard:))

Waiting for founder campaign

[jovial ferry]

You should still have plenty time to collect the cash, since from what we have been told the founder campaign will be starting closer to the launch, so most likely somewhere in Q2

[icy badger]

Wellllll I know what gonna goes into my new 80he

80he still come with plastic case or aluminum case ?

[jovial ferry]

plastic with an option of zinc alloy case, so far we know basic one is a black plastic. There will also be an option of transparent plastic. Other than that we dont know about different colors

[icy badger]

Black is good

[tawdry fiber]

Is Wooting doing a similar thing with 60HE+ module for the 80He?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

But you'll have to buy the case regardless, since no alternatives exist.

[tawdry fiber]

B/c if we planning to mod the shit out of it, PCB is lot easier to work with.

[tawdry fiber]

Wait, if 80He is comign with zinc alloy case, I'm cool with that. Especially with the gasket mount, that makes keyboard modding less necessary.

[upbeat berry]

its gasket either way and itll comes in either plastic or zinc depending on what you want

[icy badger]

Gonna start looking for a nice keycap set

[verbal solar]

They are expensive

[tawdry fiber]

Price hasn't even dropped lmfao

[winter coral]

Wooting could sell a Preorder Package in the founders campaign (barebone with a preorder of Lekker v2) to fetch early money and reduce the risk, that people buy stuff in another store. This will help also for the calculation of the initial order @gateron

[winged birch]

They should but I doubt they will.

[low rose]

hi, do you think the 80he would be much more expensive than the 60he?

[obtuse wagon]

yesss

[low rose]

how many

[obtuse wagon]

No idea but I would expect it to be more than the 60HE

[low rose]

👍🏼

[wind bronze]

anyone know when we can pre order

[dusty salmon]

When coming out the 80he? I will buy it

[lucid cedar]

Dear @buoyant jacinth , I love the wooting products and have been told how good they are from friends and I would love to buy one. I have a tkl right now and love it. The 80He sounds like what I am looking for, but I don't have all the money right now and was wondering if you could give me an estimation on how much money it would cost. Also if you could explain what you guys mean by pre orders are going to start at Q2 2024. Please let me know and have a great day

-Connor

[winged birch]

Price isn’t yet announced officially but it was said that the guesses were nearly spot on so expect $200-$220. Q2 means quarter 2 of 2024 so April, May and June.

[pulsar sapphire]

Besides the new look will we be getting any new performances? I am holding off thinking the 80HE will be a new hit or something...

[winged birch]

It was said that the 80HE would have some performance upgrades over the 60HE.

[grizzled cove]

dawg 💀

[crimson plume]

lol

[buoyant jacinth]

We have not officially announced pricing yet, that will come, but what Aligner mentions is true: you can make an educated guess about what the price will be

All the info will be provided over time, so don't worry about not being able to preorder right now

[tawdry fiber]

Any potential discount for buying multiple 80He?

[buoyant solstice]

We don't really do those in general.

[toxic zephyr]

well this isn't #💬│general so it's your lucky day!

[buoyant solstice]

[jolly tangle]

your coupon is: discord discount

[fierce terrace]

I would just like to order it asap, and be done with it

when it comes it comes

one less thing to pay attention to (dont want to miss the founders campaign)

[silk hedge]

Founders campaing lasts a whole month

[toxic zephyr]

when you're fomoing about something in the future that lasts a month and won't run out 💀

[tawdry fiber]

How big of a jump is the performance upgrade?

[buoyant solstice]

TBA

[icy badger]

Wob still the best for me

I wonder what keycap can I add to make my future 80he better

Chrome Dbrand F*ck off Enter, walnut spacebar, Kbdfan WOB

[proud portal]

Maybe you should wait for official colors

[silk hedge]

Those dont rly fit together

[proud portal]

Hard to think about future Keycap combinations when future colors arent known

[icy badger]

I already have walnut SpaceBar from my 60he

Chrome enter and wob keycap just a top pick for now

[fierce terrace]

not foming, just eager

[fallow spire]

Blacks, whites, silvers. All kinds of finish and color for zincalloy

Also all kinds of Cerakote to try out. Wonder how expensive they’ll quote this

[buoyant solstice]

[tight cliff]

Silver with brass accents would be quite nice 🤔 (Black with brass is always good too)

[ancient breach]

Nice stuff that totally 100% comes across on pictures.

talking about the swatches

[jolly tangle]

[jolly tangle]

is that some green 👀

[nova nexus]

@midnight iron

[midnight iron]

The church of the white zinc alloy 80HE rises

[tranquil void]

I think I'd personally go with a bit of a warmer, natural colour

[spark hound]

Looks more metal than white

But I agree. Hopefully it can match my Zephyrus g14 white version :p

[midnight iron]

I think that’s actually silver, just looks warm white under the lighting

[tranquil void]

Even then it'll be the best colour

[midnight iron]

I think if they have a dark gunmetal type black/grey it’d be their most popular color choice

followed by of course the classy and excellent gentleman's pick of white

[fallen forge]

call me weird but some green cerakote sounds rad, british racing green kinda

[toxic zephyr]

you're weird

[jolly tangle]

thank you fleimi

[toxic zephyr]

live to serve

[lapis galleon]

green 80he would be so hype

[vapid storm]

green booger would be nice but it's kinda yellowish

[frigid ravine]

everything looks so cool

[vocal estuary]

how mutch is the 80he

[buoyant solstice]

To be announced in coming weeks.

[tulip dawn]

Will it be better than the 60he?

[severe merlin]

Around when will it be available for Pre-Order?

[grizzled cove]

what are the estimations for the zinc alloy case price

[buoyant solstice]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[grizzled cove]

ive always had a plastic board

ik itll eventually be announced i just mean what are ppl thinkin its gonna be around

idk metal case prices

[tulip dawn]

@buoyant solstice will the 80he be better than 60he?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes

[severe merlin]

Will the Zinc make a difference? I’m focusing on performance but I can get either one since it’s my birthday present.

[buoyant solstice]

It's just a weight and sound difference.

It isn't going to improve performance.

[severe merlin]

What about longevity?

[toxic zephyr]

unless you plan to submerge it into acetone, I'd say any difference there is meaningless

[severe merlin]

In what way will the sound be different?

[tulip dawn]

So should I cancel my order for the 60he and wait?

[severe merlin]

Yes

[buoyant solstice]

Can't answer that question for you.

[tulip dawn]

Has it been revealed what all will be different?

[toxic zephyr]

decidedly no

[grizzled cove]

no

[severe merlin]

Yo in what way will the sound be different? Lower pitch, higher pitch?

[jolly tangle]

i misread "it"

[severe merlin]

How does the weight affect the keyboard?

[toxic zephyr]

uhm... it becomes heavier

[jolly tangle]

kinda like everything else

[toxic zephyr]

[severe merlin]

But is it better for example gaming?

[jolly tangle]

yes you get better teammates

[toxic zephyr]

and you turn better looking within a few weeks!

[severe merlin]

What is the polling rate?

[silk hedge]

not known

[severe merlin]

Hopefully 8000hz.

[silk hedge]

tomorrow new update

[silk hedge]

no chance thats a mouse thing

[jolly tangle]

for a mouse I mean sure... however idk about 8k polling for a keypress

[grizzled cove]

inbetween rounds and during queue times u just gotta curl the keyboard

[jolly tangle]

just fast enough. 1k is fine imo

[severe merlin]

There are 8000hz keyboards.

[toxic zephyr]

nope they said 1khz

[tulip dawn]

Why?

[grizzled cove]

cuz it depends what u want

[severe merlin]

Some games can benefit from it. (e. g. Geometry Dash)

[jolly tangle]

they havent said anything fleimi:P maybe u mean the 60he is 1khz

[grizzled cove]

if youd rather have an 80 than a 60 and dont mind the wait, then cancel

its opinionated

[tulip dawn]

What all will be different internally?

[grizzled cove]

not everything is announced yet

[toxic zephyr]

it'll have an optional knob for one

[tulip dawn]

What has been announced? I just joined the server

[jolly tangle]

in the pins

[grizzled cove]

yeah look at pins + the video in #📣│announcements

[toxic zephyr]

I'm pretty sure mansen said 1khz at some point but unsure if that's at liberty of the ducko or actual info

I'd guess they'd have revealed it to be 2khz, 4khz or whatever already if it was

since they've said nothing, I can only assume it's just 1khz

[jolly tangle]

must be a communication error. they havent said any official info about the polling rate

[severe merlin]

Around when will it be available for Pre-Order?

[toxic zephyr]

not announced yet but my personal guess is in a month or two

[grizzled cove]

prolly end of march

[toxic zephyr]

given all the info so far and the delay they hit immediately

[severe merlin]

Bro if it's 8000hz I'm litterally insta-buying. I am anyway but then it would be better.

[jolly tangle]

they better not delay anything

we need gainz

[tight cypress]

End of March would be perfect

[grizzled cove]

i mean the lunar new year holiday or wtver is gonna delay everything this month

so id assume end of march

[severe merlin]

I don't like the RGB Strip, they could just use that room for keys and that way have ALL of the TKL keys in a compact layout. It's litterally perfect.

[grizzled cove]

gonna have to live wit it cuz aint no way they doing more changes

[tulip dawn]

Is there any idea what the price will be

[grizzled cove]

proly like 200-220

[tulip dawn]

Would you recommend me canceling my 60he order?

[grizzled cove]

if u dont mind waiting til august to get the board then yeah

[tulip dawn]

Damn August?

[grizzled cove]

mhm

[tulip dawn]

I’ll probably just get the 60

Is the 80 supposed to be groundbreaking or something or is it pretty similar to 60 but bigger

[tepid terrace]

it has more keys

[grizzled cove]

ig itll be groundbreaking in regard to other prebuilts in the market

[toxic zephyr]

apart from that it has an optional knob as well as some unrevealed mystery add-on (?)

but as far as using it like a keyboard, yeah it's pretty much the same thing, just different form factor

[grizzled cove]

also hopefully the lekkers will be improved by the time the 80he is released

but we dont know if thats gonna happen in time

[tranquil void]

the other addon is a red button

https://tenor.com/view/red-button-dumb-ways-gif-24387346

[toxic zephyr]

[barren berry]

When will this release

[grizzled cove]

today it’s dropping in 1 whole hour

[balmy gust]

What are the knobs usually used for? Volume control?

[winged birch]

Yeah

[steady escarp]

DJing

[cerulean epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-catto-cats-gif-2693509101423175460

[balmy gust]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-sax-guy-gif-18663354

[safe tundra]

I have been away for a while. Wha'd I miss?

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-nothing-zero-none-nothing-at-all-no-anything-gif-17041415

[safe tundra]

Oh good!

[opaque panther]

Is there a place to pre order this keyboard or nah

[winged birch]

Not yet.

[edgy fog]

does anyone know when its coming out

[grizzled cove]

no

[glad fable]

since it was delayed by 1.5 months I would assume pre-orders would start march or april

[safe tundra]

oooooooo gotcha,
heard we got a knob tho?>

[grizzled cove]

yeah

havent seen it yet tho

[winged birch]

You knew that already.. Right? That’s old news by now.

No renders or prototypes have been shown yet though.

80HE news!

I personally think this heavily implies it’ll come with KS-20U switches.

[safe tundra]

I remember the knob a lil but thought we had more clear info

[winged birch]

Sadly not yet.

[grizzled cove]

wait so it IS confirmed that itll be done in time

there was like an argument/talk about it literally on the 30th in here

[winged birch]

Lekker V2s yes, but I do not think that it is a new switch hence my presumption of the 20Us as they say “We are in the meanwhile working towards a better switch lineup overall.”

[grizzled cove]

yeah i more so was talking about the new lekker switch improvements thatve been talked about

[winged birch]

Well yes I guess.

A V2 Lekker switch is confirmed.

[last wasp]

Can someone point me where the knob add-on was confirmed/leaked? Cant find any mentions about it from Wooting, only community speculations

[midnight iron]

It was leaked via livestream so there’s no official post about it, but it’s been confirmed as true

[last wasp]

Ty! Anyone got timestamps?

[midnight iron]

Can’t remember which livestream unfortunately, it might even have been one of the unofficial discord streams from Calder which has no vod

[wooden spindle]

L100, L80, L30 and others. So tighter tolerance + more choice

[jolly tangle]

spontaneous discord livestream. yes its confirmed

[dusk carbon]

Anyone know when this keyboard will come out?

Or should I get 60he

[buoyant solstice]

Scuttlebutt says to expect delivery in late summer or so.

[stuck crane]

just got it

[wet tangle]

will there be an update post today?

[upbeat berry]

there should be

[buoyant solstice]

Oh hey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfw7JY5gfE4

[tight cypress]

Oh, those feet are so cute

[sage reef]

possible those new upcoming switches are tactile? or confirmed somewhere they're linear

[upbeat berry]

they have a hexagonal key travel

[jolly tangle]

who is this sno jed guy

[nova nexus]

Some religious nut apparently

[sage reef]

do like an exploded 75% with 3 kb halves, split on like G | H (easily to snap together tho). With 1 right half and 2 left halves. 1 left half Tactile like the right half, and the other left half is just Linear for gaming. cable on on the right half.
so you can easily just swap these halves when gaming or doing something else (smaller left halves than the right half, so easier to swap/store and nicer).

this is like the best way to do linear/tactile keyboard, since you need both for gaming and other stuff
otherwise you would need to have another keyboard on the desk, bigger in size than the smaller left half, also plugged in pc, or plugging and unplugging same one cable.
better to get one same style "3 halves kb" ( 1.4 kbs in size), than 2 different keyboards ( 2.0 kbs in size).

[fallen forge]

29-30mm front height it is then

[midnight iron]

our church is very strong. Large congregation

[lapis galleon]

personally im a member of the green 80he church

but I can respect a white 80he believer

[fallen forge]

this, maybe even a plastic one in translucent green

[grizzled cove]

bro the pope of the white case church

[steady escarp]

jed irl

[grizzled cove]

💀

[ancient breach]

Today was probably my last day skiing this winter too.
Though not a christian nor knowing how to use a snowboard.

[jovial ferry]

btw do we know if zinc case will also have a nice accent like Alumaze60 did? Or will it be just a plain one color metal case?

[finite cosmos]

Sno as In the WoW Streamer??

[midnight iron]

uh oh my worlds are colliding, hello

[finite cosmos]

been watching you since classic launch 😄 small world!

Well.. sadly not for a while lmaoo

[midnight iron]

yeah took quite a break lol, will return to content soon but more general youtube stuff instead of WoW

[lapis galleon]

I dont think its getting an accent. it would make the entire case wider and cause issues with the wrist rest and travel case.

[winged birch]

Maybe 🙄

[toxic zephyr]

yeah white ver vote from me too actually

just to be very obvious :>

[jolly tangle]

[winged birch]

Translucent/smokey keycaps that match the translucent/smokey case would be dope

[broken hornet]

How long do you think the wooting 80he will be out ? I'm wondering if I should buy the 60he or wait a little longer.

[spare swallow]

is this the fullsize? the “two” he on the site

if so, when does it release? i didnt know it was a preorder when i bought it

[winged birch]

Most likely Q2 2024.

[winged birch]

The fullsize is the Two HE, yes. I don’t think the 2HE is supposed to be a preorder but maybe they ran out. You can track your batch here #📦│batch_updates or cancel your order through Wooting’s support.

[worn silo]

I think in the summer time, still months to go

[drifting phoenix]

Over/under is late summer so if you can’t wait that long then decide accordingly

[midnight iron]

Man some of the comments on the angle video lol

so many people don't realize these rubber feet/rubber strip things are how a lot of custom keyboard cases attach feet already, only difference is wooting is offering multiple options for height instead of just the default feet

the fact that some people want crummy plastic feet attached is insanity

[drifting phoenix]

i think there are definitely a lot of ways to biff the choice to use insertable rubber feet

i don't think wooting as a design team will biff it, though

[covert wind]

Hi I have a small question about the 80he how much it cost

[drifting phoenix]

they'll pick good rubber and good thickness so it is durable and sturdy

[frigid ravine]

i mean they dont have the knowledge of it, so they just assume what they think is the best

[grizzled cove]

yeah a lot of brainrot

[winged birch]

Not yet confirmed but most likely between $200 and $220.

[tardy goblet]

Wonder if i should join the white zinc alloy church for the 80HE or stick with a black case 🤔

Need to figure out what fits best with my mostly blue, cream-white and red keycaps.

[covert wind]

Ok thx

[half swan]

Is there role ping for any 80he news?

[buoyant solstice]

Not at the moment, just a weekly video on Youtube.

[half swan]

Fair enough, thank you!

[silk hedge]

Weekly video on youtube and bi-weekly livestream

[bright inlet]

hi can anyone answer this for me please? I ordered a 60he a few days ago and ive just found out about the 80he right now. What features will the 80HE have that will make it "better"? And is it worth it, if so should i cancel my order and wait for the 80HE??

[silk hedge]

We dont know all the details