#🌟│wooting80he
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ngl its getting a bit hard not to buy it now
I'm still a bit perturbed by that light strip.
Shit mb on tagging you V lol
Didn't mean to use the reply. XD
thoughts?
gasket mounted 60 would be massive
The future support/features for the 80HE haven't even been discussed yet so if you think it's hard not to buy it now, just wait.
i know of this already
if its gasket mounted and with jades i can overcome the layout
is it not so much cleaner?
wait for the 2.0s man
i want a deeper sound too
Deeper you will get with gasket anyway
and I feel like the jades muffle the sound but also reflect it back a bit and with gasket if the sound travels in the case it’s not coming back out like with the 60
i mean ig we'll see
for my traymounted 60 im getting jades
60 and 65 are abt as big as i'd want
To be fair, all non HE switches are closed like the jades so
i think for the current 60he i'll just finish it off with the jades and then look forwared to a gasket mounted one
Jsut gateron 2.0s we already know of
gateron 2.0s are clear
Probably a long wait unless you make or buy a custom plate so it’ll be similar to gasket
Raptors are the non clear ones
raptor clears come in march i believe
im fine with waiting, i already spent 900 bucks on 2 60he's in just 2 months, i think i should cool off a bit
Wonder when Gateron drops the dual rail KS20's or have they already?
but jades and 2.0s are better than raptors
kailh dropped box stem HE's iirc
You had some time for self reflection? Cool off? 😧
that was until i saw a GMK set i liked 2hrs ago and im preparing to spend 150 on it b4 shipping
Was figuring Gaterons Dual Rail KS20's would be this way
Yes but not double railed so unless tolerances are tighter than stem swapped raptor or 2.0s there’s no reason to buy
😂😂😂😂😂😂
But now I think about it, it will most likely be standard style switch
I doubt it
Hello, maybe someone knows will the zinc alloy version be available for purchase in 26 days or will you have to wait for it, I’m not talking about the usual 2 months of waiting,I mean end of 2024 or later
Standerd lekkers/1.0s are really bad
Those are not for the 60he
Yes but in that post they replied said KS20 dual rails are coming
not for the 60he
Dual rail ks20salready exist
so soon
atk68 ships with them
Any better than the standard Lekker ?
They sound far far far far far better stock than the lekkers/1.0s
its called magnetic 2.0
jesus if they actually released this i would have bought it, such a dissapointment
gaterons names are shit
Go on gateron.com
Everyone is talking about the unaligned arrow keys, bezels or wasted space but will turn around and say they like the look of this
search magnetic
I don’t
looks nicer than the 80he. 
I hate the look of the offset arrow keys
This is what I love
they arent up yet
The switches on this page are not sold separately and is only available for purchase together with the Holy60/Takk60 kit. Gateron Magnetic 2.0 Orange Switch Operation Force: 30±7gf lnitial Magnetic Flux: 102±15Gs Bottom Magnetic Flux: 905±80Gs Pre Travel: Freely setting Total Travel: 4.1±0.2mm Structure: Dual-rail Pre
kbdfans has a link for them
I only see two switches on gaterons site also
But that keyboard you mentioned had a purple stem an white housing 
man it looks so bland
any zinc alloy info?
was it not called ks-20u
is the 80he different in any other way than size from the 60?
idfk
It looks so much better
Yes.
new light bar
Just KS-20's
The claimed advantage of the 2.0 switch is that with proper software you can set dual actuation levels. One for a normal key press and one for a long key press.
in meaningful way i mean
they called it once KS20U
now its called 2.0
💀
Im just wondering when Gateron actually drops the dual rail KS20's doesnt seem they are sold seperately yet, just weird how they answered it on Twitter
weird folk over at gateron
Yes! I am not schizo
wanna fix that?
They are already out but you can’t buy them yet.
you can probs get them separately at a later point
Why they gotta be so weird
weird people
Maybe a deal with the manufacturer of atk68
idk
kbdfans also has them in their rakka60 prebuilt
I hope somebody has an uncle who works at kbdfans
Other companies will have them for sale in about 4 weeks.
Gateron sooner?
theres way too many HE announcements back to back
gateron said theyll have them on their site soon as well
I dont have any info on what gateron will have them for sale
it is impossible to keep track
I mean the future is here, gotta capitalize on that
Is it bad I could read that an know exactly how to sound 
if only eh... IF ONLY
this is the 500th time i saw this please stop
They sound better than stock lekkers, raptors and maybe stem swapped raptors even
nah its slimmer and no light 🤣
MOREEEEEE
SO ITS THE FIRST TIME AKHUALLY
im done with this for now
hahaha
i ordered the module in early december and now they drop 1-2 per day
Wooting’s features destroys all of them though, except the rakka if what they claim is true.
real
rakka will also be a limited run iirc
They’ll sell the pcb as a module separately though right?
i wish
Would’ve been a waste of resources otherwise
I think so
for now you can only get it with the tofu or the holy60 as a kit
we need to go back in time where the 60he was the only small HE board
I’m quite certain it’ll release afterwards. They put a lot of effort in from what I’ve seen.
Competition is good for everyone.
not for my wallet
Haven't seen the Rakka. Been out of the keeb scene for a while until Zoom75 came out.
Does Two He is old to buy now? I was thinking about to purchase it on 28th, but sow announcement video on YouTube and after todays EOR stream I don't really know. What do you think about gasket mount important or just new capitalism scam? how to fly in gta5 on tkl 
rakka is basically the 60he+module
That’s not true, they should’ve copyrighted it. Would’ve been much better I think cause everyone would call it rapid trigger anyway
and split options
Gasket mount is not a scam.
"new capitalism scam" we had gasket keyboards for years now
they only offer FR4, CF and Alu for plates
If you don’t care about how it sounds and just care for the layout buy whichever layout fits you best
I know, but is it huge improvement between two he construction and 80he?
I guess I'll look into it
It’ll be a while until the 80HE ships as well.
their 60he plates have flex cuts the rakka ones dont
I'm ready to get it in 4-5 month max 😄
It should make typing experience a better feel. That being said, gaming won't change much. Unless you're constantly typing when you should be gaming lol.
Flex cuts are bad overall for HE boards
the standoffs seem in similar positions to the 60he
so maybe these are compatible
tho ofc only for the module
Because they are less focuesed on rgb
would be a bummer if not, rgb is quite useful
i only use the AOE effect
I'm worried that this silicone will fall apart in a couple of years.
I think so
true
That won't happen lol
this is how their app looks iirc
A week or so and I can test gateron 2.0s with 60he
Clean
Wait why did I get an email saying thank you for purchasing the 60he when I already got mine a year ago lol
the only thing this has over the 60he module is the split options
It’s web based as well right?
no clue
For using my email for the 80he notification
i dont use chrome so it doesnt matter
😂😂
https://kb.rakka.dev/ found an online demo
How you mean?
oh god kbdfans
mmh
i hope gateron doesnt run out of stock
I have everything bound, so everything that “isn’t binded” I have as the main layer
bound*
Wooting need more features and DKS improvemnts
i only have 1
and multi tap for multi media
IMAGINE
wtf
Yes exactly, double tap, double tap + hold, triple tap, triple tap + hold
so many more features need to be added
Have a feeling Wooting is getting around to that, UwU slowed it all up tho
Imo, just a guess tho who tf knows besides the team
features is what made wooting (for a large part) but they don’t really seem to want to discover more capabilities
features wise
same
oh my fucking god stop
I will never because I can’t
ok lets do something else then
Every chance I get I will post it
i will be back give me a few mins
😳
sorry guys not enough room to move the arrows 
😂😂😂😂
Pay a little extra an get unique stuff, what Im waiting on
imagine just the rgb strip as the main thing lmao
I see why you say that about the Rakka. 8khz polling as well. Interesting.
8khz is
overhyped
For keebs yes
for mice too
what are examples of this unique stuff? can u remember off the top of ur head. Ik its different for wooting 80 he but what have the previous releases entailed?
I base my entire opinion on optimum tech’s video
The silk screen on the pcb, leather strap, was a couple things with the 60HE
so I may be out of my depth lol
not sure what other keebs had before, the 60HE release is when I showed up here
nothing unique like that
60he was the first afaik
Wonder what it will be with the 80HE ...
some gadget prob
attachments
like a scope or a grip or something
for a better gaming experience

Mac we’re out of crack. You wanna grab more?
this is the best design, no cap
What’s different?
isnt that just stock?
you want a war? war you will get
no i dont want a war, you're too turned on for this
My opinion is superior because I think so!
im just sat back watching netflix and laughing at you two whenever i look over ngl
😂😂😂
imagine paying for netflix
exactly
well i do have a server with radarr, sonarr, jellyfin and etc setup but i got more hardware last week and still waiting on another hba so netflix it is for now
i dont remember asking
I pay for Disney an Paramount solely for the kids
Verizon?
Might just be worth it for me to switch, currently just use Xfinity
But honestly all service here is kinda sketchy in my experience, its the dam mountains
How was it in Boulder?
Bro I got Verizon and it pays for paramount, espn+ & Disney+
I gotta pay for hulu, hbo max and Netflix though
just a small reminder this is a keyboard channel
Sorry!
dont tempt me
non-enthusiasts first impression of 80HE: Weird layout, looks bulky, ugly side profile, non-floaty design like on Wooting One/Two is departure from staple design of previous products people loved.
floating switch is garbage
The channel is for questions about the 80HE.
Would be nice if bezels were thinner
for you maybe. If i wanted classic non-floaty keeb i would just build DIY one. Floaty/Low Profile is the future
I’m actually curious why the forehead is so big compared to the other edges?
My opinion is superior sorry
you really wanna know why?
i can not say the words here
😂😂
i mean tehnically i can its just offtopic
☝️🤓
ur tempting me rn
say it!
not that, ur tempting me to do smth else
what would that be? 🤔
its not safe for work
People expected streamlined product like they expect their Pixel/Iphone phones to be slim in '24. Instead Wooting gave us something that looks like old ass Motorola. Could it have cool stuff under the hood? Sure. But it looks like a**.
now time to watch new reacher episode
wtf kinda analogy is that
That is not safe for work. This is however:
Superior one
we'll debate this later
oh god
maybe in private :)
the criticism is very constructive
😳
Man that 80 is ugly. Why didnt they do a 75%
bro rlly pulled out phone wars to analyze a keyboard layout
nah looks pretty good still, the Bezels stuff is pretty minor, attach a custom band like this and you fix arrow alignment issue
If you call that a “fix” you’re hopeless
It would be funny asf if they add a strap there
might as well, what else to do with that weird negative space
Calder said there would be something there
they moved the arrows to an ugly place so that there was room for “something”
and when that mysterious “something” gets announcers we’ll all understand
🫡
Real burger mount
This is turning into an 80HE meme channel lmao
this keeb is meme
unfunny one
Wooting was best of both world of gamer brands like Logitech and custom/enthusiast keebs. Now i might as well get Keychron or Ducky. Their just scrapped their whole image
mad
Features wise wooting is the best
its fine bro was prob to broke to buy a wooting (jk)
It’s not wrong though, maybe a bit harsh but not wrong
exactly and just say u bought food
A job? What’s that?
getting a job is gonna make me use my keyboard less : )
trueeee
can’t have that!!
one big band hole top to reduce weight and bezel size, for a mega band
You can stick a tablet in there too
true
W idea, u can use it as a handbag (hang keyboard)
yeah good part still in collage for 5 month so i can live for free
for a bit longer
after that i need to stop being broke
generates debt = living free
you are paying, you just dont feel it yet
free collage
Wow
hmm nah boring
the strap is installed correctly can you give it the optimum treatment?
Looks fine, better than treading down that same beaten old path of traditional layouts. For every TKL or 75% I see, I'm one step closer to watching a Steven Segal movie. And that's not good
How the heck did he manage to do that
ñ?
ñ?
skill and dedication
fr
take contro
is doesn’t look bad honestly
Se puede realizar un pedido por adelantado del W80HE en ISO Spain?
Does the wooting one have decent support? Looking on eBay rn
No support anymore.
Can't get spare parts.
Ah that's fair

sad when the meme wins with a cooler design....the whole design is based on the right shift...that it stays "normal" size.... I barely use it actually... so sad.
will buy it eventually... but anyhow...my hype is gone...
The good thing is thay by the time the 80he releases there will be more he switches or atleast more videos on the current ones
Yeah the layout got me a bit down but when i heard burger mount and zinc alloy case on release i was back on board
Not burger mount
Gasket
For what do you use the F keys?
Wooting wrist rest for TKL version was selling before, for now its only available 3 versions, fullsize, tkl and 60 for wrist rest, but because of new designee and lenght of a 80HE keyboard it will not suit what to do
Interesting. Do you find it a hinderance to use the F keys on layer 2?
wooting stood for me: research and development - setting new limits.....now an led bar will soon be shining at me from below....phew...would be nice to understand the concept behind it. in any case, today's video didn't make me any smarter and the design looks rather old-fashioned like a cherry keyboard.
but i don't want to complain so much either....the guys were looking forward to the day and put a lot of effort into it. let them sleep in peace today.
I have read many that feel that way as well. I use the F keys on layer 2 quite often and never really thought about it.
Admittedly, the tech discussion (the how and why) havent been verbalized yet. When they are you will still see wooting as a r&d company who sets new limits.
Mhmm that's fair. I suppose we did leave more questions than answers from today's reveal. I'll be sure to pass that along. 🙂
I use them for GTA and forts
For me the few ms it takes to reach the F row is the same as going to layer 2
😂
I don’t care at all, I’m interested in the way as I never felt hindered by it. Genuinely just a question.
Not a perfectly good thing to do considering he's got mistakes in not only mice things, but monitors as well. As a whole.... not great to rally behind his discussions, which leads to misunderstandings
I’m interested in the 80he as it’s still smaller than a two he and it maintains everything I’d want other than the numpad.
Well I didn’t mean anything with my question and you’re not forced to explain yourself to me if you didn’t want to.
Yeah that’s why I said it.
Because it is interesting to me. Your answer was different than the person I asked previously. Not an entirely different reason but still.
Not what I meant at all.
Personally i dont think i use the f keys much but the arrow keys i would miss a bit if i go with a 60, so for now i'll wait to see what wooting has cooked for the 80 and then i'll decide
I don’t think the 60% layout is good even. I said previously many times; I use makeshift arrowkeys. If wooting made a 64% I’d buy it because I find it a very big hinderance to not have arrowkeys.
personally i think people should use what they want 🗿
aint no way
My downside of the huntsman mini compared to my rk68 is the arrow keys are bound via function. Makes it a royal pain in the dick to do anything with them.
That's always been the conventional wisdom. Unless you're plagued with buyer's remorse and need to validate your spending.
''plagued with buyers remorse'' u tell me bro
i spent almost 900 on 2 60he's modded 💀 and now they drop gasket mount
you're wrong. Now go back to the drawing board and I expect a 500 page essay on why you need this.
based only because of that hot ass girl in the pic
I'm still on my preorder 60HE. Though I did swap out the case for a different one
i bought every wooting product except for the uwu and 2he i think
flaretech too?
Is there going to be a big performance difference from the 60he because this is hinting at it
right forgot abt the wooting one and those
60% is not versatile at all.
yea they'll give you aimbot
lol
I just bought the 60he so I’m nervous the 80% is going to be a huge performance jump I hope it’s just a bigger size
i doubt it will be a huge performance jump
finalmouse type marketing
LMAOOO
What the heck?!
i like this guy
Not asking for anything but like performance wise is there a noticeable leap
Damn
What the heck?! x2
if i give u 1k can i have it early
bro is dead serious btw
🥴
i just want it way faster so i can flex it
V what’s the most can u say ab the 80he
and ofc the zinc alloy one
it is a keyboard.
Zinc alloy?
Case
No shit I didn’t know I thought it was a burger
Zinc Aloy* how calder said it
also give me the case files so i can make a 24k gold case for it
lol
V type what u want to say
🌝
Put it in me
whar about the 75HE 🔥
🤔
why do you want a keyboard inside your ass?
whar about the 64HE?
Performance wise we more talking software or hardware
Don’t worry about it
impressive
Thanks
you should do onlyfans
V stop hiding
🙊
if you're trying to fit a whole ass keyboard inside u, i want the link
Mods ban him
ofc u do
💀💀💀
that would sell too easily
he’d pay for it too
but tbh all they need to do is pcb and plate
just the pcb and plate, it fits their alumaze, it can ship in the module’s box
it seems so easy to do
😭
i was 100% serious btw
Who says I wasn’t too
that one was obvious
Really?
That is something that I could’ve have imaged in a thousand years.. 😂😂😂
.5ms response 😄
its already the fastest
I just bought the 60he now this 80 is gonna be like 2x performance jump
how to disappoint urself 101^
cant think of anything else aside from something like a .5 response
2x performance jump is impossible, they’re innovators not magicians.
I come back and all I see is keyboard in your ass
That’s the standard set by Drxp and doc
i don't wanna be rude but atleast your pronouns are true to form
what ill expect is a faster response time, probs .5 and more onboard memory for more software shit they add and store on there
probs some revamp with the macros and that
I’m a hater to myself daily. No need to be considerate. I appreciate it though.
masochism good
its not, i dont even know who bub is
?
abt the OF
?
yeah but this guy implied i would force it inside of him which i wont
🧢
this channel is interesting
the one new funtionality i'd expect is to make the pressure meter display(LED) be per-key. The current "touch" rgb profile is global, so if one key is fully pressed the pressure meter becomes pointless. Luckily it's software, so i'd expect this functionaly to become available on all current wooting keyboards.
how about we move on
I think we should indeed:
Meh. I'll keep my opinion until more details are revealed
my opinion is simple: I dont give a fuck
It’ll show the pressure per key like we have already I assume
we dont have per-key now, unless i somehow missed the settings, it activates on key press, but considers all keys
I agree with you here:
i am not falling for that
so if you have "W" fully pressed, the pressure meter is pointless
There is an aoe effect that increases by the pressure of a single key right or am I schizo again?
yeah we do
hahahah schizophrenic
also got the effect to show pressure on the 1 - 9 keys
Schizophrenia is very serious and not funny at all.
true
buy a new keyboard instead
buy me one
😭
You should buy me one
u first, i asked nicely
You have more so you should buy me one instead
If nit
you do too
i only have 6
You should be taxed
fanum tax incoming
of every keyboard you buy you should give me 27%
If you buy a 60% you keep the 40% and buy me a 20% keyboard
just checked, i was talking about the "touch" profile and LED display functionaliy essencially, as Wooting implemented this extra display on the 80HE. The aoe profile is .. "aoe" but has the same issue, pressing "w" will light up a 3x3 block with no further possible modifications.
Yes I like the ring of that
i'll give you a full one if u become a maid in my home
Paid/unpaid?
u get paid in keyboards
Hmm, so how’d you like or expect it to behave then?
activating per specific key, so it would be possible to filter out noise keys. Say if you only want to see the pressure level on "E".. so make the LED only care about the E key for example
Man I feel like if I buy nitro I hit rock bottom but I kinda want to
they do it with actuation level already i think
i gave these fuckers over $1000 for nitro so join me
i moved to yearly recently
You mean like you’d set 1 key and the effect will only ever take into account that one key and ignore all others? For trouble shooting purposes or something else?
ultimate comparison, the winner will be manufactured
all are dogshit
Oh god you’re a discord tryhard with 30+ alts too huh?
i have alts but i had my main accs banned a lot of times
The only and one, superior to all, undefeated, a keyboard in perfect harmony:
oh god
it would be pretty useful for racing games or some other games like flight sims, where it would be of interest to know the level of the gas/thrust pedal pressed. accelerarion etc. Pluis it would be good to know this level if there are multiple action bound on the same key.. mod tap it's called? i dno, with the 2he i don't need this complexity lol
basically acceleration display directly on the keyboard lol
I see what you mean, yes! That’d be very useful and a great indication as well.
But you won’t
but i will
Because you like it dangerous
i will
Honestly try to suggest it. It’s a great feature to the rgb effect
He hid it. 😭
People that like racing games or have wheels or play with a controller … but that’s my idea
This is just a keyboard. Should follow known patterns and users should feel familiar with the interactions … with all the god sent Hall effect and PCB quality from wooting.
jokes aside, this for real is best
fight sims have too many keys for a controller.. i did it with Elite dangerous.. but it was.. an adventure.. i think i count more hours configuring the controllers there than actually playing the game kek
That’s nothing compared to this:
im making my own tkl, with blackjack, and hookers
honestly this is such a wasted opportunity
It’s sad that not many games seem to support analog even after years since the 2HE
If razer had Hall effect, the new 75 from them would be more appealing than he80 tbh. And I actually may buy this to experiment
(He80) I mean
Razer comes with included malware that you need to install to change settings.
I’m not a wooting unconditionalist but Razer?!
this is what i want, we diamond hands for another year boys
Yes I do
So the wooting one got it
How long has that been
no, TKL is really not it and boring
Such a bummer
Totally understand what you are saying … their software is … something else 😂
i want the numpad gone but the 80he removed my del and ins key which i want for specific games lul and the (app) key bottom right
Analog input is great for movement too, not limited to racing
u get full set of keys and easy to remap
Yeah, maybe gta6 🤣
remap keys sure but it just doesnt have the look, i just want the numpad gone thats it *shrug *, we just wait
To be fair, most analog animations are literally just slowed down the slower you move.. 😂
TKL is boring though and too wide
i think they said it can be replaced with the (hopefully freely available) "del" key, and they have the same height, so it's no problem. But the fact that wooting thinks the "end" key is more important than the "del" key is.. concerning. 🥲
Try to enter the bios with an end key
It’ll ship with all multi media keys included
😂
So you can swap them out and remap them
Who uses stock keycaps anyway Ehehe
don't really think they think that, it's just kind of non-important thing, and also Home and End are like complementary
and Home is more important than Ins
I think probably 95% of everyone here
Really?! Didn’t have that idea from the other sub forums
Yeah because wooting’s keycaps are not trashy
double shot pbt
not abs like steelseries
So? Even ducky has double shot pbt
For the price … there’s some minimum expectations
There’s no higher quality plastic keycaps than doubleshot pbt
It’s just the design you’d want or the color
I know … don’t understand what’s your point eheh
That many people still use the stock keycaps because they’re good
only a small group changes the keycaps
Let me check the wootstations sub forum
there is a wooting forum??
You're in it.
oh
Subforum - sub channel - sub something 🙂
Mansen is the layout of the 80HE 10000000% set in stone, really?
sub discord.
Or that lol 😂 you know how the cookie crumbles Ehehe
discord is cool but not really a proper place to truly unleash the inner RAGE
and 50 pages long dramas about what REALLY counts xD
in a keyboard
Is that in reply to me? 😮
Exactly 🙂 it’s a keyboard 🙂 who likes it buys it … who doesn’t … there are bazillions options out there
Not if you want wooting’s software, features and future features and service
future features*
ive seen a lot of people disliking how it looks but i really like how it looks, i feel like it looks really clean
I just want it to be affordable
Hello hello!!
It’s better to just wait till more is revealed about this.
But is this not much clearer though?
i want wooting services ><
no people that wanted TKL HE now seeing 80HE will not want to get this, arrow key placement won't matter, just a hyper-focus here that doesn't exist for majority of people outside of discord
Everyone does
I must say, I was a little thrown off at first. But it has start to grow on me. Now, one thing I probably think is importanay; at least for me. Is that the keyboard comes with a strap even tho it is not used like the other keeboard but is that one thing I find important that Wooting continues to deliver with all there keyboards like a signature think. I think they are crazy cool and I need more! 🦄
🤔
I wonder if that LED strip is actually a battery level.
Many gave feedback on the arrow keys’ placement that’s why calder even had mention it
No one saw a wire right ? 😂
Oh my
It's looks
Interesting
no one saw the thing being plugged in
is it wireless?
ohh
they showed it
But it’s wired I guess
if the bottom has the 2.4ghz dongle then its wireless
It isn’t. The angle it is at makes it quite thin, not enough place for a battery.
the alternative you give is really not as great as you think, the original actually looks better if you just spend more time with it.
that's literally the reason why they did it this way, because that other only way is worse
60 looks more tryhard
This is a fair point. Clearance isn't great.
the arrowkey looks so off
It just factually does not look better. I refused to believe that it is an opinion. Humans are driven by symmetry and it literally isn’t.

heyyy
what does that even mean?
This however does look factually better:
now it's like a tetris block getting a nice fit, your alternative is detached tetris block
that it looks more like a keyboard that people would use that are good
Tbh my only grip with the layout is that led strip and wasted space / not aligned keys. But once you start using you just forget about it. Before you buy it you are always very critical. Afterwards you just use it and get use to it
I am affraid that you are right. But I hope Wooting will bring back a TKL in the future. But I love how they try to set some new standards with keyboards. Breaking new grounds. But in the end I think a full fledge Wooting TKL would been a great step. Even tho that they said one could get it from another company. I do not think anyone here would want that. We support Wooting because we love their products. 🤔
No, it is a tetris block aligned with the grid.
difference in layout is not tryhard, it's just an option
the rgb strip looks wrong there
the arrow keys block is not only visually ugly, but has literally negative functionality, as it will increase the misclick rate without saving any space. There is a reason they are set apart on a full-size keyboards..
i dno what wooting was thinking, but its a small thingy ultimately
Please tell me if this was in reply to me. If it’s set in stone 100000% there’s nothing I can do and I will stop sharing my opinion as it doesn’t matter.
in my opinion 60% players are more tryhard then the others. There are more people that use 60% to travel with it because its small and dont need it to make home office with it
The led strip seems it was added there just to fill the negative space of the keyboard.
its gonna haunt me for life tbh and yea the rgb strip is so out of place
just for the more fps
this is a years long project. it looks dope.
Ima leave for now
Overwhelmed 
https://tenor.com/view/duck-quack-gif-26493149
I'm just a duck, who works customer support. I can't answer that.
its like the letter U on my keycap that is a little chipped
they should have worked 2 years on it OMEGALUL
not sure how a 60% is tryhard, like any layout it has its pros and cons
AHHHH I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMOREEE 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
We love Mansen 
i feel like wooting will make it work
most gamers play 60% and the others are more for office workers
Last time I swear. LOOK AT THIS CLEANNEST JUST STRAIGHT PERFECTION IN A KEYBOARD
like they will account for the feedback and reccomendations and maybe work around it
Quack quack quack 🦆
wow so im an office worker
Is there a link to where I can read all the descriptions to the board? Like what mount and etc?
no
Not yet
tirade is brewing something
Ok thanks Pedros
nah but for what u need the other 40% for gaming. i use 60% so i can travel to lan events easier
Calder said the offset arrowkeys were there for a reason. But what that reason is he did not reveal yet.
Alrighty
Gonna wait for pops

I'm so lost in what you're trying to say. Tryhard is someone who sits at a skatepark with fancy gear and doesn't do anything
It’s gasket mount
i feel like im onto something but it doesnt seem quite right
That’s what we know. It has screw in stabs
Oh shi?
What?
Dead ah?
a tryhard is someone who tries hard and is very sweaty
Interesting
the reason is aesthetics, the only alternative would be the TSN one, and it looks worse, too formal, less playful, tetris block not fitting nicely
u are trolling how can u not know what a tryhard is?
its no lie that its easier to bring your 60% to lan events but i personally has brought my 110% to a lan so Hahaha
this discord is for all ages
Why is owning a 60% a tryhard? lol wut
You are either inhuman or trolling, do you not care for symmetry?
but its just taking more space and on a lan u dont have so much space often
u are no tryhard so u cant rly know
@fallow lance Are you here still?
im a trysoft 
trust me, you're just not seeing the actual beauty of current, you're too focused on symmetry, but it's one of those cases when it's worse
On lan ur table is very oft small and u will need more space for ur mice so u buy a smaller keyboard
I sweat in a lot of games but never thought for one second that keyboard layout was a contribution
He means that if you own a 60% keyboard you’re probably gaming intensively with it and therefore trying very hard.
thats also why people tilt there keyboard so weird
Me bringing fightsticks to fighting game lans like
Hmm I'm not gonna lie
The arrow keys do look a bit off from a perspective. But I still really do like they way it looks. I appreciate it
u prbly never went on a lan
Its a struggle we all go through 
I am right.
the 20% sticking out of my backpack
Its just saying hello
you also lose symmetry by doing this btw, the tetris block fitting symmetry that touches the shift key in symmetrical way
its ugly lol
I mean I joined to see if a TKL will be advertised this year, and it wasn't so I just put an order in for a razer tkl. I'll wait to see if Wooting will release more cases since.. well no one else makes a 77.5% case right now
I think the 80HE is fine, I'm just an idiot that uses del, context menu, and insert
wooting one he when
it's only the wide Bezel that makes it more ugly, but still fine
keyboard layout doesn't determine if you're a tryhard or not; plenty of pros still rock TKL's and what not
i still feel the 80he looks oddly off, cant change my mind
how many times u want to post that here?
It is aligned with the End key, creating a clear destination between the “Main” keys and the “Side” keys. Achieving symmetry and pure perfection.
i understand u
i would forgive them if they added another key above the arrow block (the arrow keys "E") but they didn't :S
so its still kinda useless
but look at that ugly empty space near Ctrl key, it suggestes something of the main section is missing
this is better than your 64% dream boat though. just accept it 
you can also buy another uwu if u need more keys
I am happy to see Mode, I'm a fan of F13 layouts
maybe the ones that have much space on the table or the ones that tilt there keyboard
I'm not going to say anything
You say that but it is not much bigger than the original so I don’t really get your point.
i can see they tried to make it really compact though
Yessssss
a compact 80% but the ARROWKEYS are still out of place
i wanna paint on that keyboard
To me I would prefer the arrows keys to shift to the right just a little bit
But the left arrow is a problem
I think the 77.5% is weird because TKL people just want that 3 key wide section, while 75% people don't want the wasted space
vote 1 2 3 4 5
But again I don't mind it like this
Already looks good to my opinion
I prefer 65%, I would love 64% and 80% like that I would love as well. At least I’d buy it instantly if it was like that.
whats different from 4 and 5?
All aligned Ehehe but it’s a 75 🙂
extend the keyboard, make it so that uparrow is in the middle of end and pgdown
Yeah what I meant for it to look like from my pic is 5
Where’s the strip?
Wheres the uwu on it
ha
the led looks weird af
Finally someone gets it
Less wasted space, more keys
sadge, Wooting built you a keyboard in no mans land. 2026 will be your year
😂😂😂😂🥲🥲🥲🥲
I don’t really mind it if it’s symmetrical.
i think ill rather a 65% at this point
Yeah I like it a little better but again the left arrow xd
I will personally prevent this with all my might
cant go wrong
I fight you and debil both at the same time
Real
I'm just sad they named this the 80HE honestly, since it's not an 80%, which feels like we'll neither get a 75% or a 80% in the future either
ive waited long enough for a tkl
Just round it up 
78%?
welcome fox
ill just get this and use function keys for missing buttons
@winged birch damn, no one voted for your choice, sorry
screw it
ye
is it 61% xD
Like I'm happy just getting a different TKL and being in the waiting room again
Everyone that voted X did. You didn’t even include my choice
wooting adhd
couldnt they just do and anonymouse voting on what layout we want?
I would buy the 80he if I had the money myself ngl
Voting would probably be biased to like, this discord
I wouldn't mind
Is anyone that wanted TKL disappointed by the 80%? Like what do you get with TKL and not with 80%, just 4 keys right?
that's because having light there after moving the keys would look worse and be not needed as much, also since the keys would now take up more of that empty space
maybe a oled display xD
I hope they do
Yeah, it's not a 80%, I use those keys and have my own case
look at the apex pro tkl
they did everything right
Wrong, you’re on a streak.
Well good
Now stop complaining and get your wallets

how much?
I agree for most part. I loved the multimedia of the 2019 version.
Man idk
I just got here
its 3 keys p sure
im a bit sad,but ill just use function
The key that the arrow key replaces as well
Do people really dislike the light bar?
i dont
I'm just visiting and see what's going on
I dont
i agree, i jsut ordered my 60HE cuz in all fairness this steelseries has a few cons i just dont like abt it
the main complaint is that more keys couldve gone there i think
It’s more about what’s the practicality of it
TKL and 75% people confused basically
I don’t dislike it but from how it looked it is not very diffused. So it’ll prob be sharp light so you’d have to dim it a bit.
I was hoping for 7u WKL and no F13. That shit is sexy albeit stale
Yeah like it seems reasonable to adjust it
i use the older apex pro tkl and isnt it the same as the 2023 version? slightly different design but also 0.1mm
I'm in favor of F13
13 is an unlucky number, ya gonna drop dead pressing it
I play SC2 and I like the more compact function keys
But that's probably also a minority opinion
but rapid trigger
I kinda wish the 80he had a middle usb port since it'd look nicer :v
whats sc2?
was wooting the first with rapid trigger too? meaning steelseries didn't even think this far in 2018
oh ok
agree, agree
oh ok
star citizen 2
oh ok
rapid trigger definitely the actual selling point for these keyboards (before additional needs of analog)
some of them work cs
purple dudes really work at wooting

i remember that u work cs
so u worked on the 80he?
wait no he doesnt work cs

so u?
Kevin and the other designers are the main driving force behind new products. Like Rouhan speaheaded the UwU design from initial sketches to the final products.
But of course everyone in the company can offer feedback and opinions on stuff 🙂
i mixed up anders and tony
whats cs??
counter strike
Tony's a programmer. And he does a bit of everything.
c- sucker

my fav
you dont gotta say it, we know
computer science
comical society
to be fair there are a few orange people who helped in the customer support recently
so you could have seen their names

Emily helped me to cancel my order
Does the Wooting 80HE pcb have the same thickness as the 60HE 1.6mm? I only ask because of costum stabilizers.
bro what?
OH ITS CALDER with his superior headset 
u are supporting the support
💪
sadly i didnt get to see anders last night
Actually good question. Have some tx screw ins for 1.6mm
how much into wooting are u?
u have signatures from all workers?
80HE has 85 keys.
im fine, i just feel like their work culture there feels really chill lol, would love to work with them if i ever had a chance
GO TO BED CALDER

It’s morning here
Not when you were up all night already! 😛
thats so much typing and deleting xD
Where are you from @fallow spire
Wasn’t sure if I should respond to somebody mentioning 77.5%
i cant understand how people buy other keyboards instead of wooting
will you tell the hot question to the people why you made that arrow alignment. its a very hot topic
yes please talk about it
he made that?
60,75,80% it’s about the number of keys not a reference width compared to something else
he owns the company.
who made that sick rgb strip
the more i went to paint 3d to depict how i would've preferred the arrowkey alignment, the more i feel backwards
he prbly rich af
sold the same stuff for 5 years and still on top of all others
networth over 750k google says so
sorry, they're*
ohMyOats
It’s not what it looks like on final. We’re refining it, it’ll be much more diffused but we added small blocks to separate in 10 steps
just really happy when i see a company i like put in the effort into making new products and make it :D
This makes it very clear and allows it to communicate in different ways
good morning
i meant sick i typed wrong sry xD
Goodnight mansen, now you better get some sleep
lemme wake you up with a "does the he+ work with plate mounted stabilizers"
sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs paralyze
calder are you sticking around for some more questions 😛
is he actually mansen or anders
Both 
what do you prefer people call you
Either is fine.
Iets anders
thomas anders
i got 3 out of 10 questiuns >.>
i overslept the whole livestream
can't wait until I can have that 80HE tbh
i was like listening to how many switches they lubed that year etc
more useful than 60HE but I think nicer than tkl?
Ive always said TKL is a wasteful layout and this is a little bit less wasteful
too much focus on the arrow cluster, this is the money shot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186265045227802714/1190323756913139783/80HE_Flex_1.png?ex=65a16262&is=658eed62&hm=1ddd2353fdf21fdbbcb4763bc036e37234348bbb82539f12c28391104977229f&
Not sure what to do with the entire sentiment around the layout.
On the one side I understand the disappointment, if you’re intimately familiar with a triangle and square shape, and you’re waiting for the Wooting triangle or square shape, and it’s a rectangular shape, you’re initially disappointed.
People start to pick the best things of the triangle shape and square shape, compare it with the worse of the rectangular shape. Just can’t wrap your head around it.
You can argue the days about the look of the layout, but nobody has used it yet.
Calder,
if you ever decide to make a 60HE with a numpad
Full on the lips man
no but
the only thing that i understand from the layout is that its a really compact 80%
That would probably be my dream
i dont understand the layout
"60" he+ numpad would probably be fire
its good enough for me personally
it's TKL but one column less
Yesss
yeah so its pretty much a 75%?
I think it looks dope. I think the strap is like the wooting accent. if it was for only me I would have added it 😄
Update those renders yeah, we made an oopsie with the focus on top down. It’s honestly the ugliest shot you can take.
I never miss the Frow on my 60HE, never miss the actual arrows
Only thing is the numpad
And you’re right, that is the best angle
just use the same layout that the apex pro tkl has. people who dont want many keys buy the 60HE and people who want more then 60% gonna buy the tkl which has a lot more keys dont try to make a hybrid of 60% and tkl
im really stressing how do i play a tkl kb game on a 60%
I think it looks ugly and I can't wrap my head around why making an odd duck like this if a 2HE with the numpad cut off would have made pretty much everyone happy
V you should read mod chat 
the side and front details are nice. had it been a wedge I would've punched my pet kangaroo on the nose
It’s just needed an f row and arrow keys, that’s exactly what it has.
I’m not sure what the further complaint is? People live fine with less keys on 75% and don’t complain about the less keys lol
like it too but the only downsite is it looks very big from above
i'm not super eager for the keyboard tbh ... i may end up buying it to test, but from a buy process perspective, it failed to give me the initial emotion to buy it 😄 lets see how thing go from here.
but this is very personal
To an extent, big is only an issue if the design isn't right
The larger top is masked by the Keycaps. You look at it from a front angle, and it actually makes it look in balance.
We also needed that space to make the design, gasket, and daughterboard work.
When i saw the Teaser i first thought of the tkl like the apex pro tkl because thats just what tkl meant for me. i am not so much into keyboards if its wrong its just my stpd head that this layout means tkl and nothing different.
gasket
Why did you opt for a gasket mount and not something else 🙂
I think you'll be able to get any layout anywhere.
gasket >> everything else imo
i wanna try out the gasket. it sounds really premium
It’s not unreasonable but I’m trying to figure out if people are just responding to something being different or responding on it being actually functionally bad.
I'd say different
In a week or two we'll find out the actual opinions
you have my monies on preorder
i mean u could use the space between the arrow keys better instead of an rgb. some gimmick would be cool like a mute switch or something a little extra function to play with.
oh, so there's a daughter board... And i was wondering how this design's going to work. Anyways, my question however is simple, Calder. What is the RGB bar for? Does it have any important function?
it'd look very crammed and would give little visual distinction for the arrow keys
it just seems like a strange compromise imo
With every keyboard I noticed that keys around a screw always sound more pale/stiff. Gasket eliminates this entirely.
In addition, with how we made it using the pad for gasket instead of plate or pcb, allows us to modify it for different gasket mounting methods
it has a function?
hot
in my opinion, the reason to get a 60%> is to get more keys, not more bezels with an LED. ugly or not.
hows the comparison between friction mount and gasket mount though
will the spacebar finally sound closer to the rest of the keys 
😭
gasket is premium

fakin nub
