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If it’s black fire, made from paint, then it could potentially not burn kanjuro
He could draw it but it wouldn’t be as strong
Exactly
His drawing of Oden wasn't as strong as Oden
This is a last resort attack. something made from his dying will.
Brook’s definitely gonna fight it 
This will probably be connected to that thing from Punk Hazard
Exactly
I think it looks like this
Kanjuro is top tier antagonist after this for me
It’d be pretty useless vs kinemon who cuts fire
I think he was only trying to fulfill his role extravagantly
looks like he's going all out. he's making stuff he can't control
Who doesn’t know fox fire style at this point
Like winning an Academy Award winner but not well-renowned as an actor 
Everyone in this chapter is doing a power move cause they're on their last breathe
fire
He couldn’t use it earlier because it’d be useless vs the samurai
I don’t think the Oden he drew had Oden’s abilities
Wouldn’t he have to draw the fire
He can’t just draw things and give it abilities can he?
He probably willed it to go to basement and that’s that
He's not controlling it
Well if it was a genuine suicide pact
Not controlling it
He gave it purpose
Reach basement
Wherever the gunpowder is
if the whole place is on fire, it'll reach the basement regardless
But didn’t he command the bird he drew?
Interesting
He gave it a pretty straightforward goal: "Burn everything on your way". So his will conjured a monster that would do just that.
Maybe Yamato isn't going to be able to deal with it
Because it's not going directly there
If it has difficulty to kill of smiley then it’d be difficult to deal with
just noticed this lmao
isn't it just burning through walls
I can’t tell
What does that say
When it goes through walls
lorem ipsum default text for photoshop
It could awakening for Kanjuro
bruh
**could be
Default text for everything, actually
Ohhhh
lmao
They forgot to replace it, probably
the translators are doing their best
If not
Yamato gonna help w BM 👀
yamato is going basement, ghost is going ?
But he's busy with King
I thought it was gonna be usopp cuz fire was going to basement
Page
ne
Usopp has a utility belt
What if King uses it somehow against Zoro?
Isn't Kinemon the one that can cut fire
Hear me out: Giant Pitcher Plants
Usopp fighting fire w fire
he can pull fire spitting plants
What if the Kazenbo runs into Big Mom and consumes Prometheus 
One homie taken out would be
Well
I only thought Usopp was gonna deal with the fire demon cuz they both will go to basement
Would turn the battle in Kid and Law's favor 
Yeah they might cross paths
Doesn't the battlefield have an ice demon virus that could probably allow literally anyone to fight this thing?>

toad oil supreme
Hamlet fan club boyzzz
Yamato just saw Kid's ability. She'll definitely ask his help with the weapons on the armory, giving him more fire power against BM.
Usopp has some senzu beans for kiku
I mean if Hiyori with no medical capabilities can heal the Scabbards, then surely Usopp can
Literally anyone on the battlefield can give themselves the ice demon virus and be able to take out this flame
Another healing princess 
Why assume the silhouette is even hiyori 
To the point where they heal

It's prob Hiyori
T
ki
2% chance of Enel
No but it's a silent island
one person def saw
they split the sky and pushed it towards flower capital
wait what where is the silhouette?
Cipher Pol is moving to go to another side of the castle to play shogi 
we're talking about the silhouette that saved the scabbards in like 1006
ooh
Enel obviously
And hiyori will give it to Zoro mid fight after king breaks sandai 
Rokushiki is the name of the martial arts
Masked figures? You mean CP0?
Rokuogan is the one Lucci could do yeah

Some people don't want Sandai to break though lol
Kawamatsu, the ninja turtle 
yeah
Queen just caught up yeah

Sanji running like always
ok so what if that panel is a new gear 4 mode
ayo partial gear 4 transformation 
idk sumo man
Gear 2 Jet Pistol stance
Gear 4 hybrid
partial g4 transformation theory finally coming to be
Gear 5?
what if Luffy blocked the breath so his hand is smoking like Kaido's mouth is smoking

Either aiming or gear 4 smth
i'd lose my fuckin mind
I like to think gear 4: sumo man
one of you sounds exactly like Abed fromCommunity
It's Gear 2 Jet Pistol
smth like sentomaru from sabaody

it's the little panels oda hides the biggest reveals


Does smoke come out luffy’s mouth in gear 4?
Yeah
!!!!!!'
what is the average height of all of the one piece characters
what page we on again
11
aight gotta remember this 1 year from now
holy shit she's huge
I love how the grunts recognize yamato in wolf form
wait is Usopp going to basement
If Usopp is going to basement, and Yamato is there in front of Big Mom
WHAT IF yamato joins the fight vs big mom for a bit
It would be pretty fucking funny
kanjuro fans exist?

Kaido couldn't 1 shot kinemon either
it's only gonna fall when it gets to the capital right?
Also castle is bloody huge
omh yeah
What if Usopp rides on Yamato all the way to the basement 
i saw this a bit ago
900 meter umbrella
9000 meter umbrella
casting quite a lot of shade
Yeah
💅
Because Kaido is weakening
is that not just fucked depth perception?
If he loses and becomes KO
probably is
Hmmm what a lovely metal sword we’ve got here 
Unless Kaido has a "last breath" like Kanjuro
Kid using that sword when 
Yeah doubt it
can zoan even have their powers awakened
overdose on rumble balls
they're the first look at awakening we got in the whole series
Why did he need to go adult form if he's just gonna create a bunch of small clouds 
back to the jailor beats in impel down
ohhhh
lmaoo
i forgor
10? smol clouds = 1 big cloud
and then you see the own yamato as a dwarf

Onigashima is rekt one way or another
oh for sure
i have no idea what's happening with law's powers and at this point im too scared to ask
the skull is cracking
yea i can see that
Luffy knocks Kaido all the way from the top of skull to basement, blowing onigashima up anyways
very tough skull
Giant mecha robo samurai kid form when
CP0 watches the entire thing blow up and they somehow survive anyway
The roof realizes it can save Kaido, and we get a flashback to 3 years ago when Law first went to Wano and used Room to put the skull back together after Kaido's last big fight
It pulls itself away and goes after Kaido to help him
lmaoo
True
Big Mom is just a force of nature
Big Mom is more intimidating than Kaido imo
Agree
tru
KID AND LAW AWAKENING 
do ppl really sleep on big mom?
Guys does this mean Luffy + Kid + Law can actually wage war on wg and win?
cuz this is 2 yonko they taking out
Agreed bean
ehhhh
I think Law used awakening cuz kid talked about awakening and they get competitive together
Law being awakened before Dressrosa makes sense because then that means he wouldn't have had a good handle on it completely because Kinemon got cut by him and it was an awakened cut 
In other words
He was at the end of his rope before the fight even started.
Law implied that he awakened recently
just like how they took kaidos fire to the face because they wanted to flex on each other
“I’m still not used to it yet”
wait how do you know that was an awakened cut?
Unless you want to say that Doflamingo wasn't a "real battle"
I'd rather assume he learned it off screen recently, cuz in a short time span his room ability got a lot better
3Head
Fucking around with headcanons
Plus Law didn’t plan on fighting doflamingo in the first place
Honestly, forget dressrosa, I don't think there's a real legitimate reason he shouldn't have used it on Kaido.
I agree
Oh
Well you see Choc
Kaido wasn't his main matchup
And as shonens go
I mean what does Law do
You don't go all-out until you are fighting your real opponent
He was laying low before Luffy got to Wano
Why would Law use it against two emperors?
was Law relying on Luffy during Dressrosa then? there's no way he figured it out after Dressrosa
reveal reasons lol
He could have learned it before Luffy arrived
Just like how Zoro uses Asura on Kaido but he'll beat King using something else
it's different than room because it's used differently
Hopefully
room is a room, chrome is room put on a specific item
Nah I don’t even think it’s a reveal thing either, the awakening takes up too much energy to risk against two emperors
I mean, yeah. Ignoring meta reasons like that.
yeah ik what you meant was just playin
I don't see any difference between revealing it on kaido vs revealing it on BM.
He used rocks on Kaido
It was kaido and BM tho
To be honest
constantly.
The only thing I can say here is that Law didn't use it because it was too taxing
He was CONSTANTLY near death in Dressrosa.
But that's really hard to even argue
Agreed
it might get handwaved later idk
The wording is horrible, I'd wait for Viz. "I'd only use it near death ... I'd never use it in a real battle" when are you ever near death but not in a real battle?
Maybe he was getting awakening during it?
Ok how about this, what if Chrome requires a lot of start up to do, one that most opponents won't give a chance in real combat. However in this case Big mom was distracted with Kids punk boss and Law had the time to start it up and shape the chrome
true
Idk I think it's just easier to say that he got it after Dressrosa
Law needs to preserve his DF to use the Immortality Surgery on Luffy Kid
but like, when could he have possibly figured out how to awaken it after dressrosa
I think it's because doffy would never give law the time to set up his chrome to begin with, it's super taxing and hard to do which makes it a really bad idea to use in combat
yea i'd believe that
For some reason I don’t think it’s gonna be turning shit into trampolines
the floor becomes a trampoline
TRUE
LMAO


he IS the bouncy castle
Gear 4 Bouncy House
Yeah it was a sneak attack
The 26 year old Kroomer
Kroomer
gear 5 is just a skyzone
I feel like turning surroundings into stuff is only with substance creation paramecias like Doffy’s string or Katakuri’s mochi
I’m gonna kroooom 
cum
The fact that Law survived that... suddenly Kin surviving seems way more palpable
oda would absolutely say that in an SBS
No
i can see it
honestly yea
"Imagine being Oda"
I think it was recently too
Yeah he said he’s still not used to it yet
He had at least a couple of weeks to learn it before Luffy arrived on Wano
i thought he only learned snake man during the katakuri fight?
Luffy coulda popped g4 and one shot hody lol
That could work yeah
king kong gun in bubble :)
King kong
monke
Hmmm
big monke

luffy was always monke
Law said he would use it if he were to die, I think (if he did have it in dressrosa) he didn’t use it against doflamingo because he believed in luffy and the whole “will of D” stuff and strawhats performing miracles
awakened form
I feel like Law awakened his df the moment he thought "What if I create a room on just my sword"
Then he realized it's a really difficult thing to do
it's still a lot of earth being turned up.
so true
Good lord
What colour is chrome btw
There was the shock wave too
blue?
silverish probbs
kinky
I'm just tryna figure out which of these buffs he put on his blade
I dont think he has to open a room to use shambles
Yes
LMAO
he can't do multiple rooms at the same time, right?
I love the Dark Souls reference nice
I think it's not going through any defence, he's just made it intangible
the sword isn't a sword anymore, during Kroom
kroom is kroom
so Law can pierce anything when krooming
so my main thing was I figured stabbing BM should've been blocked by her haki. Specifically for the reason bean just said. Because it's harmless. The "harmless" stuff is the stuff that you'd typically assume is blocked by haki. the stuff that's normally unblockable.
it goes through haki too, because he could've moved them nor cut them in half before but their haki were in the way
Poor wording but
he didn't try not a single time
it's a phasing attack
If law can't cast room while using this ability, the draw backs are also horrible
Just shock wave made BM bleed out from the inside
haki is so damn weird bro
Law does not want to lose his mobility
Yeah I don't think so
He said it himself it's hard for him to fight while using the awakening
I want to see Radio Knife again 
He can definitely take the pain

LMFAOOOO
I will agree with that
I just noticed that
KID SLANDER THIS WEEK AGAIN?!
"How about I make you more attractive"
I think it's crazy how he's making big mom BLEED
Oda himself wrote "KROOM" so they'll probably keep it as Kroom
When will we win 
when does the viz translation come out?
Sunday
ok ty
yeah, awakening is great, but ultimately he's still just crashing metal into things. I want to see something different.
they complain that he's not strong but then call it an asspull when he awakens
idk what else you could expect
I assume assign wouldn't work if he's being out-haki'd directly
It doesn't even matter anyways because Kid is getting CoCting too 
What's luffy gonna do when 1000 swords auto aim to him? Dodge 
But kid can use haki with his awakening
Luffy will prob punch them all away
so true
tank man
Punk Crash had big mom like garbage in a trash compactor 
The thing is Kid's awakening sounds like an ability rather an awakening
I mean, he did do the BM thing on the roof to get her off.
No it's very awakening like
do we think Big Mom took significant damage from the combo attack?
just different ways to use an ability. cool in that it's not just a power power up of a df
when will tank man make its triumphant return
While Luffy just went unga bunga
he puts magnetism on a different object
Nah his ability before had him be the magnetic force. Awakening let him make things around him magnetic
disagree

He just reversed the use of his fruit
Iron in the blood isn’t magnetic guys
If he doesn't need to take a moment to prepare his chrome then it will be much easier to use in combat
Yeah but compared to Doffy/Kata/Law Kid's sounds like an ability
That needs to be animated
he's going to do it. You act like it's not going to happen.
Orochi coming back for idk how many times would it take to kill him
different types of fruit have different types of awakening
Ability/skill/move
How long does kids assign last btw
create a room and coat his blade, that's about it. while using the room like that there's not a second one to teleport
is big mom stuck with metals chasing her until he decides no more

I assume until Kid stops it or by an 'overexertion' of Haki on BM's part
I agree on that, but if he could've used the opposite of his awakening too that would be sick
I wonder, if kid can magnetize things... can he still use his power?
he did have to ask law after all
BM looks more angry than scared in the final panel we see her in
I don't think she's down in any sense
I mean if he could repel the people he assigned them
Yeah Doom I think something like that too
that would be sick
Kroomers rise up
kroomersss
booooo
against anybody other than a yonko Assign seems like heavy damage move
Dude it seems devastating
joke's old at this point lol

how dependent is it on the environment?
very
if you assign someone while fighting in a field, do they care

If I get talking I'll inevitably go on about my god usopp theories
I think Orochi is meant to be executed
I guess this emote isn’t cannon😈😈😈
That's why he keeps surviving

When was our last Robin update
so yeah, basically alt modes to use DFs
Luffy gonna 1-shot Rob Lucci even while exhausted to show how much stronger he is now than in Eines Lobby
pretty cool
I feel like Law figured out his awakening by experimenting with whether he can manipulate the shape of his rooms beyond just a literal room
and it turns out to be super damn difficult to do
maybe Law's will change depending on what he coats
with this we'll get some more hints
Kroom his sword, now his room can pierce
on how these awaken
not needed, just needlessly downplays the abilities of the WG, who should ultimately be the final enemy of the series. We already know Luffy is way stronger than he was in Enies Lobby, him 1 shotting Lucci just makes the WG look like idiots for promoting Lucci.
I think he gets shit on or Robin is kidnapped without contest
I think it'd be super satisfying if Luffy finishes Kaido off with a big punch into a bunch of explosives
because a post-Kaido fight would be aggressively anti-climactic imo
ahaha
I strongly believe Apoo is more interested in stopping his fight with Drake than actually teaming up, just out of opportunism
These supernovas aren't just here to take down emperors lol
they taking down eachother too
I can sort of head canon exactly how Law came to figure out his awakening
like I don't see another way he coulda unlocked it
"what if I make my room, not a room"
Doffy wanted Law to use on him the eternal youth life
Also doffy wouldn't want to lose the ope ope
since it's one of most desired df

Kid coulda had it at any point after time skip, and it prob wouldn't have made a difference vs Kaido
We came up with a few reasons why it'd be difficult for him to use it in dressrosa
Law wasn't holding back, but wasn't fighting with full force
The entire time his stamina was being drained, while doffy was beating him down
Law was triggered the entire time with 0 focus and extremely angry
lol we're doing the thinking for oda rn
I really want to see orochi get executed in front of the people of wano
That’s IF fuku can win against raizo
over and over because apparently cutting his head isn't enough to kill him 
hear me out
every single day
orochi gets beheaded
until his nature death
ah red you're right
it would be a dark af cycle
not for op
I do think Orochi deserves execution tho
He didn't need to do any of this

That would be less brutal than executing him over and over
yet still just as satisfying
Also did the armor even increase luffy's dps? I feel like it only gave him protection
Kid’s going to try to go after Shanks again after wano
And Luffy’s gonna aim for Shanks eventually 👀
Im calling it right here right now, Usopp's god moment is gonna be commanding an 8000 man force in this fight
Im feeling it
I believe Kid would go back as the first time they met in Sabondy
Yeah Red I think Kid made it clear during that scene in prison, where kid refused to truly ally
"respect Luffy but wouldn't let him reach his goal"
Law is kinda just riding this wave cuz he never expected to get this far
He'll find a way, it's kid
I’d like to think after seeing an example of a proper alliance, Kid will change his mind about alliances
Maybe he'll kidnap nico robin
Killer has three eyes 
what if Kid's the one who walks away with her
woh really
the kozuki clan can read it too
Idk
but I’ve headcanoned it
kids a tsundere
If sukiyaki is still alive then 👀
It'd be pretty cap if kid has the voice of all things
Not really, maybe there are ways of teaching how to read it
I feel like Kid will find a way
What if he found someone in wano who can read it
wham bam problem solved
Again wano has people who can read this shit
Law might even find someone to read for him
YES
Nahhhh Kid saves wano
Then she loses her memory again lol

I don’t see why she can’t lose this fight now and come back later
Hey yall know what kid stole from big mom?
no
I think awakening is purely energy dependent
Uh, I think my internet cut out
oh no

I hope it reconnects soon
Anyway, it was nice chatting, this was a good chapter for discussion
Kroom: anesthesia
parent ability kroom
gear 4th, snakeman
anesthesia is the child ability
pffffft
I'll say it was really surprising for Law to draw blood from big mom like that
Yeah but idt for now
I mean we don't really know if she even can coat coc haki tbh
Holy fuck guys
I just realized, Luffy still has gum gum whatever up his sleeve, kaido still has awakening. That's one more transformation for both of them in the arsenal, which means the fight is drawing it's end
Yamato is gonna run into them and tell Kid how to use cocting
I don't think Zoan has awakening
They know ryo, or they're just that good
Jojo ruined all magnetic powers
Luffy figured it out easily by applying the concept to coc, they coulda just figured it out by realizing they can coat with coc and skip the middle step
Iron in the body isn’t magnetic
ACOA is basically the poor mans ACOC
I like the added touch of kid wanting to get out of there
I feel like he's specifically cautious of metals hitting him too
Kid doesn't need creativity
Yeah he’s straightforward
Bruh that's stretching magnetism too much
a super duper conductor wouldn't even be able to pull iron out of our bodies
God Usopp moment incoming!
What about a super duper conductor with CoC? 
LMFAO It would be pretty sweet for Momonosuke to also get a beheading on Orochi
shut yo pst ass up
If Kid awakening's can repel that would be perfect for his awakening
Yo what if, Hiyori finds Orochi, and pretends to be komurasaki again, and Orochi gets stupid, and Hiyori stabs him, followed by momo slicing his head off and that's how they meet.. Hiyori's first words to her bro "Fath-".
im p sure denjiro came to a couple of the parties
since he got acquainted with sasaki
sasaki got defeated by franky
Killer > Zoro (before he beats King)
Hawkins > Zoro forever
I meant killer idk why Hawkins got stuck in my head lol
I just wanna repeat that on chapt 1030 page 11 with the luffy panel, I think it's a new gear 4 technique. Possibly smth like gear 4: sumo man. His palm facing outwards reminded me of Sentomaru's sumo based attacks at Sabaody. Specifically when he can attack w/o contact like rn. Buttt this could just be him aiming like gear 2nd. It's just a thought, but it could happen.
Huh
is it true that he can only move in a straight line?
Can someone remind me where the Tobi roppo rank in Kaidos ranks? It’s like Kaido < performers < tobi roppo right?
If he wants to fly sure
yuh
would manga sanji beat katakuri?
No
Invisibility doesn’t matter if he can see where Sanji is cuz Haki
Yo @timber remnant
You playing hades?
same, dropped it for a while lol
The shield is the best weapon
lol
Shield is just... unbalanced
you can block everything while charging
Yea lmao
Yea
but shield makes it possible
I beat it 6 times in a row 
lol
I have 88
oof
Yea
You got all objects in the keepsake?
same lol
lmfao

So did you like chapter 1030?
if y'all playing games and not talking about the manga there is a vc for that yknow
I’m new to the discord but I was wondering if anyone was selling any of their one piece box sets? I’ve been looking everywhere and ik that box set 4 restocks in January but I have no clue when the other 3 will restock since there is no date for them
Try rightstuf
nope
ye
i didnt care about the revives of the character, i kinda knew they werent gonna die in the first place
!rank
one piece, naruto, a silent voice, but if manga included then one piece, ashita no joe and naruto
its dumb, but i cant hold the temptation, so i wanna know wats happening
yeah it is
didnt urouge beat a sweet commander?
sadge no1 is reading my msgs
!levels
Here you go! 
mb
!rank
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Here you go! 
!levels
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!rank
is there gonna be a chapter tmmro
!rank
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!levels
Here you go! 
!rank
howdy yall
is this the one for the stage?
ye
yeah

just waitin on a couple peeps before staring
haki debate?
Haki debate wat. This will be interesting 
ah that kind of debate
technical difficulties lol
my pc is fucking with the settings and defaulting to my speakers
i forgot to add my argument here
alright should be good
whoops
Rokaya over here wrote an entire research paper on haki

Honestly feel like that’s a Wano thing more than a One Piece as a whole thing
Haki being super prevalent
Tho..... if Shanks and crew are all non-DF users
We may get Haki focus round 2
Combat wise
i think theres sleective ones
It’s been used as fodder control a bit more than two times tho 
like sabody against the fake straw hats against the civilians
but conqueror's can be targeted against specific people, like during fishman island luffy didn't knock out onlookers only the fishman pirates
plot armor
like trained ones can target who gets taken out
^
Will you be having more debates?
in the future yea
yes we have a lot of ideas
especially kid
yea agree
It balances the story and gives all pirates a chance.
Agreed
haki didn't ruin the fights which is kinda impressive
Everyone is focusing on Wano. But, notice that we haven't seen Coby fight ever since he unlocked Haki.
@timber jolt sorry I'm late I'll be there in like 5 hopefully
He might be Admiral-Level after Wano.
good writing compared to other mangas
👍
Yeah only now
Cocting is broken
the kaido fights have been extremely good
they have i still like them lol
On the bright side
wait did Oden have CoC or just overpowered swords?
He did.
I think Cocting becomes less important than Luffy’s DF techniques like Awakening over time
ok
Especially Awakening
it's Punch Out but against a dragon, shit kinda slaps hard
The Gura and Yami are enough..... LOL
Its not like Luffy’s mastered it
He will tho
BB goes Ow then Gura’s Luffy’s face
Gura’s Luffy’s face after taking away his rubber
BB always starts fights getting completely clowned, he'll bounce back
When Luffy fights BB, Luffy’s problem won’t be BB’s defense like it is with Kaido now
but CoC is so hype, it doesn't just feel like punching harder to me
It is punch harder tho
well.

Luffy trains a new technique for SPECIFICALLY Kaido for 2 weeks
funny new CoC punch
Did Bean fix his internet? He sounds so crisp 
On ethernet 
Based.
power scale debate 
It is hype
CoC just stronger armament 
Can’t wait for Shanks to use CoC to pause time
luffy specializing in conquerors doesnt fix learning that advance conqueror on the spot too
Shanks is gonna use Conquerers to just crush ships into paper balls
I was born with conq haki
i feel like they're born w CoC
CoCing time bullets 
Yeah Doffy if he didn’t go through tragedy would’ve been a great CoC wielding CD
Hey now

Credit me for that
same
Agree
Why wouldn’t he???? Rayleigh says Luffy is talented
Even with just advanced armament
Exactly
1.5 years on Ruskaina
Luffy sleeps
1 week punching doors and trees
Luffy wakes
lemme just say, GENIUS on Oda's part to say "oh you get better at haki during battle", so no one can really complain about dues ex machina whatever
1 hour of getting slapped by a club:
Learning basics is always the hardest part of learning a new ability Adam
Kaido really showed him how to win
Adam it’s cuz the learning process is fasTer in battLe
And Luffy hasn’t mastered the advanced forms


combat accelerates the blooming of haki by a greater rate than training
Koby goes kinda crazy
Rayleigh says training will never be as good as fighting stronger enemies.
Fighting Kaido over 20+ years or whatever kinda makes u strong
Luffy was gonna GO at Fuji
luffy mastered ryou through punching prison doors and a tree
actual Sigma Grindset
He was fully confident he could take Fuji if he had to
he's probably really strong, we just haven't seen much on him after his glowup
As naive as that may be
maybe advanced conquerors worked the same way as ryuo
He didn’t master it though. He was still messing up a few times in the beginning of the raid
in terms of emitting haki
panel?
would rayleigh have learnt the principles of ryuo the same way luffy did tho? or would he have learnt it through combat
haki is like the force with the rules 
luffy gonna dress up as a fairy to beat kaido
Or Luffy is just a fighting genius
Would have been a bit better if luffy "accidently" used adv Coc first,, and then realising it, rather than just using it as such out of nowhere
^
thats how zoro did it supposedly which is fine in my book
Yeahh.. Luffy is good in fightinig and realising, But realising adv coc in 2 hits is a bit out of place. In katakuri fight it took longer for him to realise what is happening
It took longer for him to learn Adv CoO while fighting with a lot of trail and errors. which was a good learning curve
Kinda A potential deus ex machina system
music theory
And also how well you could adapt to something and learn
but Oda did say luffy is naturally good with CoC
while Sanji is good with CoO and zoro CoA
yeah, what's vivaldis quick learnings of advanced CoC
i have a lot to say about this one
Learning a language
DFs are still more of a game changer than Haki
At least any Haki that isn’t Cocting
I think devil fruit awakening offers you just as much an edge as haki blooming
good DF can't take you to the top, but good haki can
Okay he didn’t mess up, I misspoke but he didn’t master it since he still has to mentally prepare himself where if it was mastered he would be doing it instinctively
Good DF takes you very high
blackbeard
yes, but to be at the top characters level you don't need one
unless it's like Gura or some shit
You don’t but it makes it way easier
Law and Kid awakened their fruits and have now damaged BM the most in decades
Haki is kinda "accepted" now. while It isnt clearly explained where it originates from. If it is the will of a person, doflamingo wouldn't have a chance, based on what we saw, luffy's will is stronger
well that still means you can be top tier with mainly DF rather than Haki
Based on what we saw, they had equally powerful wills
Doffy’s will is very strong yeah
Yeah agree, I would still assume luffy's will is stronger, but i could be wrong since we didnt see much of doflamingo
We saw a pretty great amount of him tho
Also kaido's wish to 'die', wouldn't it make his will weaker?
i was never a fan of the seastone thing
Seastone Straw Hat 
Luffy wearing seastone gloves
yeah, the more I look into it....how the fuck did Aokiji equally match Akainu? I get from a plot standpoint, Aokiji's ice is probably stronger than regular ice (probably infused with like haki and shit), but launching frozen water at one of the hottest substances in the world always makes me laugh
Ohh yeah.. Will to live is greater than will to die right?
Sounds like cope
yeahh, they haven't said much on it, but i hope there's a big event on where it originates from
Yeah.. that with origin of Devil fruits
yeahh, but about devil fruits, i think they've explained a little bit during ennies lobby
🇱 ucci
Yeah. It is still not so clear on where it first originated.
Usopp 100% would
yea agree
yeah
Also smoker has a seastone staff, wouldn't accidently touching it while in logia form turn him back into normal form?
how the hell do you expect a DF user to have seastone armor lmao
I’d rather have CoCting bullets than everyone using sea stone to fight

regular armor i assume he means which would stop the seastone effect
So Adampiece instead of black Haki fists and limbs he wants seastone fists and limbs
smokers weapon has a guard on it around the hilt
oh
so hes not touching the seastone hes touching the cover on it
now I'm imagining Akainu's hand bouncing off of Ace's seastone backpack
"aw man, he got me"
Also Haki protects one from fire..(kinda) i guess

I can understand people not liking how haki works but I don’t think sea stone is a good replacement
I guess luffy being related to Sun god nika ,would make him not be affected by fire?
gettin slapped with the Power Glove

How is Seastone gonna work on a larger scale though for characters other than the strawhats
have it spread around the world through doflamingo's dealings, and they'll have their own ways
Just see how hawkins shot a seastone nail at law
in wano 
Tbh Adv CoA took longer to practice than Adv CoO
you arent gonna break the seastone
Law was able to cut the marine ship that had seastone on the bottom
Cover the seastone staff using haki
haki dust.
Observation gets nerfed when you fight someone who is physically strong,
Internet plz
Yeahh Doflamingo vs luffy , both had good Observation haki i think, so it was kinda like a pre-Ts fight

Sanji dodges Katakuri's bullet , I guess that's where they show how good sanji's Observation is
Big F for Vic 
Yeah Observation Haki doesn't have any visual indicator does it?
bean: "i like those odds"
Bout to Kaido these rookies 
i think their eyes go red in the anime
thats the anime but the manga does like, some lines on the panel
Yeah I mean the manga
Lmao
Fucking Batman lmao
its hard to tell
ok im only kinda listening lol
Dude was giving Luffy so much trouble
Can’t you argue sensing your opponent’s emotions is observation?
Batman was standing soo still that He became invisible




