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thorn cape
slender geyser
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Dude I play console and that’s insane for a console speed run

loud lily
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sheeesh

quasi tundra
cedar thunder
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Well done. You make us controller players proud

lament venture
velvet sequoia
agile folio
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How is doom so good

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because doom is boom

potent holly
agile folio
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Yes

potent holly
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wow!

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i never would have thought! 😱

pine karma
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I beat the icon of sin doom eternal in 8 minutes

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I when zoom

cedar thunder
quasi tundra
trim tendon
trim tendon
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@thorn cape help please :))

thorn cape
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it's a written tutorial but should get the job done

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https://youtu.be/0FSVt3yTo8k
if you have a question feel free to ask

53 HP required for the glide minimum (only damage values are 52 or 84 because only 2 angles work with low armour) more is helpful to avoid dying by slime damage

  • if you don't have the HP to get across the slime, you can grab the berserk pack from the void

looking at the berserk pack head-on, look to the right corner, and head into it

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trim tendon
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Thanks a lot, mate

thorn cape
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also, I see you in the unity discord; it will be slightly different on unity probably

  1. there are no shorttic angles on unity (65535 angles for longtic compared to 256) which can make the angle vary a lot
  2. I'm not sure how auto sr50 would affect the actual A+S movements and actually doing the glide.
    I know that it's possible on unity, but again, it will be a bit different and probably overall harder
trim tendon
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if there no shorttics i dont want to play on this port 🙂 i am playing on dsda and played on prboom

thorn cape
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:^) yeah unity doesn't record demos either

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there's a speedrun.com board for unity speedruns but stuff for well regular classic doom is archived on DSDA

trim tendon
thorn cape
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hmm, well when you open the map, make sure you have these parameters:
-complevel 3 -shorttics

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maybe you omitted those?

trim tendon
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complevel 3.... 1 minute

trim tendon
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complevel is important to do this tricks....

thorn cape
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yeah :p

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but nice :^)

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I don't know the exact specifics for what complevels do in terms of this stuff, but just know that D2: cl2, final doom: cl4, ult doom: cl3
for pwads, it varies

trim tendon
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ty!

civic ore
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I need help on how to perform a stuckboost correctly because there isn't any good explanation on YouTube

mild sparrow
civic ore
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Nah Doom Eternal

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac70adFZpA4
It's no where near world record but nevertheless i'm happy with it

Runner: D0M0
Date: 2022-08-02
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: rush.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 01 (Stasis Shock)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Time: 2:37.97

Hello, this is going to be the first wad I play through on this channel. As you may have heard I was very hyped about getting this attempt out as it was 2 seconds faster than my practice run.

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thorn cape
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nice

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to be fair I'm sure you can do faster if it was only 26 attempts :^)

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a tip I have is to get in the habit of strafe running as much as you can (sr50 tends to be less important for longer maxes but good here anyway as the map is very barren)

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sr40ing should be the main priority first :^)

lament venture
# civic ore Nah Doom Eternal

Ooh I did think you meant classic, my bad for not responding sooner.

I think you'd find a lot of resources in the speedrunning discord. Head to Doom Eternal's speedrun.com page and look for the discord link.

I'm assuming this is for Any%, one thing you'll need to be aware of is a lot of stuff (but mostly Slope Boosting, i.e. spamming jumps with scroll wheel) got patched very early, so you'll need to downpatch the game (very simple to do but annoying nonetheless)

civic ore
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Thanks for the info

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A lot of it is RNG based in where the monsters move and how often they'll attack, so it's gonna be many rolls of the dice

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Plus the start of the map is pretty claustrophobic

trim tendon
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anyone knows how to restart demo recording from the first map not on the current map on cripsy-doom?
when i press restart button such as on dsda-doom or prboom and there it works well, i am starting new demo on the first map of episode (ultimate doom), but on cripsy the timer is not reset and i restart current map not at e1m1...

trim tendon
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the question solved 🙂 i need to update my port to v5.6.4, under this version you need to re-open the client

trim tendon
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the second question how to disable carrytics on mouse in crispy-doom? i cant to glide squeeze in doom2 =(((

lost zephyr
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im not a helper (fr)

trim tendon
thorn cape
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to disable longtics use -shorttics parameter or record a demo with -record XXX

trim tendon
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but anyway thanks

thorn cape
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ohh, well crispy doom is by default carry fractional tics and can't change that lol

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if you want the other mouse code have to use dsda-doom

trim tendon
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i see that another world runners playing on crispy, chocolate competition doom and they have to play without this option, so i have to practice) the glide squeeze in m2 (doom2) a did easily, just was panic 😄

thorn cape
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yeah I mean personally I use carry fractional tics even though I'm a high sens runner, without it just feels wrong

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so I just suck it up for glides and whatnot 🙂

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trim tendon
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trim tendon
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since i’m struggling to speedrun rush map02, i decided to take a break and voilà

thorn cape
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is overboard finalized?

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I'm not sure if it is 🤨 might desync in the future 🙂

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I mean, considering that it has 12th August in the file name I assume it's not final

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If it does update, i'll have to refer to it as an old version

steady chasm
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I think mine was about 3 hours?

neat forum
thorn cape
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didn't bother uploading it to YT, but e1m1 pacifist in 8.86s

vapid cloud
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Damn congrats!!

real nebula
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Impressive stuff my dude

neat forum
proven lynx
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idk man#

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but that was fast tho

fervent timber
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I just joined and im trying to learn doom 64 speedrunning

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I have just reached attempt 400 for speedrunning Chemical Imps sub 5 minutes 💀

brave ocean
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Noticed a lot of people shoot the pistol near the start of a level. Is there a reason for that, like waking enemies?

steady chasm
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I beat the first level of doom 2 in 7 secs

vapid cloud
dire thorn
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Xamide

glacial ore
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speedrun on getting banned

inner bronze
vapid cloud
inner bronze
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Also it doesn't say if cheats are allowed or not, like can't you just iddqd idclip and get wr? Like it's common sense that it's not, but it doesn't say in the rules.

vapid cloud
inner bronze
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Yeah that makes sense

lament venture
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Theoretically that makes sense in retrospect but it wouldn't have occurred to me right away that they wouldn't be, AND that the rules don't need to mention cheats because of that. I dunno, just kinda neat to hear about.

vapid cloud
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There is actually a new parameter in the dsda-doom source port called -dsdademo which lets you record demos with cheats, saves, etc.
Pretty useful for showing off things on demos

lament venture
lament venture
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Why?

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Also why not Doom Eternal? There's a console command to add the unused pistol on older patches and there's a few runners who do pistol only Eternal runs.

proven lynx
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all of doom but faster

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then previous

proven lynx
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hah youve been fooled

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i am not doing full doom speedrun

lament venture
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Got sub 1:05, but the recording failed during Final Sin because OF COURSE it did... still, glad to be getting consistent runs like this again.

https://twitter.com/BloodShot9001/status/1563021449576660993?s=20&t=PZlBp8T3Hw40A0sZHpiZCQ

Got sub 1:05 which is awesome, but the recording failed during Final Sin due to not enough disk space... figures. Still, this was the immediate goal I set for myself the other day so glad to have already gotten it so fast. Hoping I can push for sub hour, but for now I'm happy. :)

cobalt quartz
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Lol, thats around the time i need for urdak only

serene hatch
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same

thick siren
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Who could teach me how to speed run doom 2?

cobalt quartz
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I just know how to do E1 runs

thick siren
real nebula
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Choose the correct settings for the category you want to speedrun such as - complevel, skill level

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now make sure you have the correct keybinds for speedrunning - set a key for ending the demo and a key for restarting it

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After that you launch the game using the -record demoname command

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If you don't know how to record demos use dsda launcher

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Now for the speedrunning part, most important thing is you'll have to strafe while running to gain extra speed

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Tip: watch other peoples demos to see how they speedrun

thick siren
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On yt?

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Cant i just do it on steam doom2?

real nebula
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You can use the steam version

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Its called the unity port and you can find the current records on speedrun .com

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Make sure you search Doom Unity not The ultimate doom

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In Unity there are no demos so you'll have to use a screen recorder

thick siren
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And the problem is i dont know how to do some gliches where i can squeze through walls or skip a part of a level

real nebula
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You can ask on the doomworld forums

thick siren
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I seen them on yt by zero master

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But i dont understan how he does it

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Those gliches

real nebula
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Or look at the readme files/descriptions that are usually with with the videos

thick siren
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K thx bro

potent holly
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this should be a good start to speedrunning tech

woeful shard
real nebula
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Does it have level selection and an add-ons menu? If so its the unity port same as steam

woeful shard
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alright

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my pc doesn't really work with screen recording, i can't get a smooth video no matter what i try, how would i go about finding a version of DOOM i can run where i can record demos

real nebula
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The unity port of doom comes with IWAD files

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These files have all the assets for the game

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Using these files you can run doom on a source port (such as dsda-doom), when speedrunning in source ports you don't have to record your screen

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Source ports have a built-in demo recorder that doesn't use much system resources

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That's how we have demos from the 90's despite almost all computers having 0 ways to capture the screen other than getting a real camera

woeful shard
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Hence why i wanted to use demos lol

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so just load those IWAD files into a source port and i'm good to go?

real nebula
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Yes that's basically it

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To record demos you need to use the -record command

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If you don't know how to use the console/command line you can install a launcher to make the process easier

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Such as ZDL or dsda-launcher

woeful shard
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alright

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thanks

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i'm not finding an IWAD, where would it be located?

real nebula
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I am not sure where the Microsoft Store saves your software but the file names should be "doom.wad" for doom 1/the ultimate doom, and "doom2.wad" for doom2

woeful shard
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i've found doom.exe

real nebula
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Also for steam it's in tbe program files/steam/steamapps/common/doom folder

real nebula
woeful shard
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eh it'd be useful to have on steam anyways, that way i can have them all in one place, plus it's 5 bucks for the doom classic bundle

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found it

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so if i wanted to record a demo of me doing a run of e1m1 how would i go about recording that demo

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i'm using DSDA

real nebula
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First make sure you have hotkeys set for ending and restarting a demo

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In dsda's key bind options or whatever its called

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Then you would launch dsda from the command line with these commands
-record testdemo
-skill 4
-warp 11

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"-record demoname" tells the game you want to record a demo

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"Skill" is the difficulty from 1-5

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1 ITYTD .... 4 being Ultra Violence 5 Nightmare

woeful shard
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should i move the launcher into the same folder as dsdadoom

real nebula
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Yes

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And warp is the level, 11 is episode 1 map 1

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With the dsda launcher you don't have to write these manually

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You can just pick the skill level and map using the drop down menu

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And to record demos you just go to the demo tab

woeful shard
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thank you

woeful shard
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and that's my first run submitted

thorn cape
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just a note, I am not entirely sure if -warp 11 would work on new dsda dooms (default is e1m1 anyway). If the same format wont work for other maps, try -warp X X

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I remember it not working ages ago, at least :^)

cobalt quartz
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Hit my first 6:20 on E1 today, new personal best. Started to incorporate some of the strats of the doom bible, so its now just practising to get better. My previous best was 6:40 for about 3 month, without any knowledge of speedrun mechanics, just used some of the secrets to skip parts i saw in different speedruns. Well, time to do some days of runs.

thorn cape
thick siren
potent holly
livid pilot
# real nebula I am not sure where the Microsoft Store saves your software but the file names s...

It depends on what apps you're installing, it can differ:

  • For packaged apps (MSIX), we just invoke Windows Update, and then apps are installed to whatever drive/folder you specify in the system settings (you can change that via Settings > Storage). By default they go into C:\Program Files\WindowsApps
  • For unpackaged apps (eg. Discord), we invoke Windows Package Manager, so you get pretty much the same result as if you had used winget. Effectively, it's like installing the normal .exe/.msi for that app, just in silent mode. Those apps will go into whatever folder they'd normally go (eg. in their own folder in C:\Program Files)
  • For games (ie. the ones you can also install from the Xbox app) by default they go into the XboxGames folder. You can also change where that is depending on your settings. Not super familiar with that part myself 🙂
lean nacelle
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Hey, I'm doing a speed run for eternal and I have a question, is there a way to skip the 3d hellprists guardian? It eats most of my time in the run and I wanna know if there's a skip for it

lament venture
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The Doom Hunters?

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Or... The 3d hell priets... The hologram that's in Cultist Base?

lament venture
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Oh. Yeah no, there's no way to skip Gladiator. There used to be a lot of weird stuff for the fight but if youre on current patch, there's not a ton of stuff that translates from the speedruns

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I'd go and watch MMAFRO's runs and see what he does for the fight.

One thing I'll mention that may help: Gladiator refills ALL ammo after EACH phase, and he's scripted to summon a wave of enemies twice per phase after taking so much damage. Hurt him until he summons stuff, and when he does, BFG in a way so the BFG hits the wall behind gladiator. The splash damage will hurt him a lot, and it will kill the summoned enemies

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Technically using BFG is slower than not for speedrunning purposes, however its not THAT slow especially if you're not used to the other fast methods

lament venture
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Mute's 1st completed (and valid) run since he came back to hundo and he's already so good bloods59Pog

Got a UN 100% 1:47:42

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And he still has an easy 3 minutes to save

quasi tundra
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not the fastest phase 2 but generally pretty fast for current patch with nerfed rocked dmg

potent holly
cobalt quartz
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Hey, nice to meet you guys here

wide pendant
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Heya 🤗

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Managed to finally get a speedrun for rush map 2, it's very bad compared to the other runs, however i'm still glad since this is the only succesful run i've done out of the countless attempts. Will put it up later

vale patrol
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Until 2:30 godamn

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Yes, I am well aware this is a terrible speedrun, and it does put me on last place in the archive leaderboards (I do have the demo of this run, probably won't upload it to doomworld). But not all successful attempts are going to be perfect. The only thing i'm happy about is that I don't have to play this level ever fucking again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Hh2bF6sgc

Runner: D0M0
Date: 2022-09-03
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: rush.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 02 (Chemical Imps)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Time: 7:26.94

I have finally released map 2 of rush and wow, I have a lot to talk about this level. I have absolutely no idea how Ancalagon managed to pull a sub 4 minute run for this awful monstrosity!

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The start of the level was actually smooth, usually it's very luck based up until the blue key. However it's after the cyberdemon that things go to shit. Yes, I know I could've definitely improved on that section.

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I ended up having to play carefully the rest of the run because I didn't want to go through with it again, my last attempt that was this close was over a week ago

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I've learnt a lot from this level about speedrunning, and i'm glad that I gave it a go, but at the same time i'm glad I never have to do this

thorn cape
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nice

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At least map 3 is easier to speedrun, first attempt I almost got a successful run sub 3 minutes

thick siren
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Is it possible to perform squeeze glide in doom 2 map 2 in unity port or crispy doom port?

thorn cape
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it's easier in crispy doom (which is standard doom), unity port is weird as it doesn't have vertical mouse movement and also it does not have shorttic angles so it's harder to line it up

real nebula
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When you launch doom.exe (the original DOS executable) without recording a demo, does it default to shorttics or longtics?

vapid cloud
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The original exe doesnt have longtics

real nebula
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Do shorttics limit you to a specific number of angles you can look in or is that only in demos

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I notices when I record demos in dsda-doom there is a limit to how many angles you can look

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Like maybe 256 or 512 angles or something like that

thorn cape
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shorttics is what makes the game have 256 angles, it's default when recording demos and was the default in dos which didn't have longtics as PB said

thick siren
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how can i remove mouse movement in prboom-plus?

thorn cape
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should be in options - mouse sens

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lament venture
# sharp sandal Nerfed rocked dmg?

After patch 1.1, Gladiator was changed to take less damage from rockets. Or just lock on, I forget which specifically. ALSO he attacks faster after skipping cutscene, and recovers from stagger state faster I believe?

Basically speedrunners found a way to quickly 0 cycle him and id said "and I took that personally"

sharp sandal
lament venture
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He did take reduced damage while staggered, however you could still deal enough in such a way that the moment he recovers from being staggered, 2 Lock On Bursts kill him

sharp sandal
lament venture
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Yeah, it's... Weird. You would think he'd be completely immune but revenantshrug

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Especially since they buffed/reworked it later anyways, like if they were worried about 0 cycles why have that be a feature in the first place?

sharp sandal
lament venture
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I mean that serves the opposite purpose though. The 0 cycle on the Gladiator specifically is a rather tight window, so learning it in of itself is interesting. In general being able to do SOME damage to the Gladiator while it's stunned is slightly more interesting than being required to "glory kill" it

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Like theoretically I can understand why ice bomb marauders got patched out. But I think the gladiator stuff was a bit silly. Same with Icon no longer being stun locked

sharp sandal
# lament venture Like theoretically I can understand why ice bomb marauders got patched out. But ...

Yea I agree, I meant the mechanic of being able to punish him during that stagger window makes the fight more interesting. Much of the rebalancing in patches makes little sense to me. I guess they wanted to keep this hidden mechanic without making it to much of a free damage window. Even then though the average player likely won’t abuse it on their first playthrough anyways.

Nerfing Marauder cryo cheese makes sense cause it’s way too easy but then they’ll buff bosses that don’t need it and nerf one that’s already easy for example.

Though I will say their philosophy for rebalancing changed around 5.0 (for the worst imo) though even before they made some odd decisions.

golden stream
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there should be a 5 hour long essay of the history of eternal speedruns on youtube.

sharp sandal
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idk about eternal

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it's not been out for that long

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also, I managed to get a 4:11 time for Map 3 of Rush (UV-Max) after 27 attempts

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since it's one of my favourite levels in the megawad, i'll continue for a sub 4

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so much better than shitty map 2

lament venture
# golden stream there should be a 5 hour long essay of the history of eternal speedruns on youtu...

Raitro started doing this already, though he started with specific levels rather than the whole game/a category

https://youtu.be/w-mc6VnxifE

I always wanted to be a Summoning Salt ripoff.

I go over some of the major changes to the routing of Urdak over the years. The route has mostly finalized at this point, so I thought this would be a good opportunity to look at how we got to this point.

I stream about 4 days a week:
Twitch ✯ https://twitch.tv/Raitro_
I shitpost sometimes:
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lament venture
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Don't think It'd be a 5 hour essay lol. But there's definitely a lot to talk about, both the grind for sub hour NMG, and sub 2 hour Hundo

keen pendant
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What's the record speed run for the whole game?

sterile gyro
keen pendant
lament venture
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lament venture
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Current Any% record is 17:52.850 by Nyht

bold vale
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I ran into a glitch in Doom Eternal. I doubt it's unique, but I've heard sometimes casual players will run across exploits that can lead to new techniques. Is there a place I can post the capture of what happened along with as much information of the incident as I can provide?

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Alternatively if it's not a unique glitch I'd love to learn more about how it happened

lament venture
bold vale
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kk

lament venture
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@bold vale omg that video is hilarious

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So it IS actually a known bug, and it's possible to replicate, buuut I'll be honest I don't know the full explanation... It's something to do with curved walls and "the bottom of flat walls?" The game saves your last position on the curved wall and when you grab the bottom of a flat wall you teleport to the curved wall

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Again that's not exactly right but that's probably enough to vaguely explain why/how it happened

bold vale
lament venture
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Makes sense is stretching it a little bit XD But yeah, glad to provide some insight. Eternal is weiiird

visual palm
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i have never done a speedrun in my life but i like watching them

golden stream
lean patrol
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Rush map3 is done, originally got 4:11 but I wanted to improve it, this is probably the best ill get in a while. However i’ll probably come back to improve it for a sub 3. For now, this run is excellent
https://youtu.be/AgcIFa5hX38

Runner: D0M0
Date: 2022-09-13
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: rush.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 03 (Frozen Tech)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Time: 3:34.34

Oh boy, what a map this is. I understand why people may detest this map, but this is probably one of the best maps in the megawad for me!

The start is luck based, depends how much health you lose befo...

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thorn cape
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nice

golden stream
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Nice

thorn cape
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thanks for the info

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I have finished my practice runs for rush map 4, and this might end up being the easiest level i've ever done a speedrun for. The time I have to beat is 9:26, and my 2 practice runs got a sub 7. It will likely take a couple attempts, but I can definitely get a video rolled out by Monday

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golden stream
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Should I try and get into doom eternal speedruns?

lament venture
golden stream
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I might, bc I use Xbox gamepass

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I practiced map 5 for rush and have done around 60 attempts for it. I can say, a lot of it isn't so bad, however you need good luck with that arch vile jump if you want the red key. I have died countless times because the arch vile refuses to zap me

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which means all the revenants and spectres can quickly kill me

cobalt quartz
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Well, i have no expierence with rush, just doing the first couple of chapters from 1993

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gl

agile solar
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I just had an idea for a classic doom speedrun challenge,

Noclip%

You have to be in noclip mode at all times and can only use idkfa for weapons in the boss battles that require you to kill the boss (you also can deactivate noclip at the end of episode 1 where you have to use the Death teleporter to end the episode)

Since you're in noclip, you can't grab any pickups, so all damage is permanent, and you can't grab power ups, also no weapons (until you have to use idkfa for bosses because killing them with a pistol and not dying is incredibly challenging if not virtually impossible given you'll eventually run out of ammo and have to punch the fucking cyberdemon)

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Imma be practicing this, and I don't think anyone's done something like this

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Zero Master gonna go crazy for this

potent holly
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and use automap to figure out where to go

agile solar
potent holly
agile solar
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and it would be faster to go through the level rather than camping outside

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you could to UVmax on it

potent holly
agile solar
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im doing more testing with faster times, but on average going through walls is faster

potent holly
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how would we record demos with this though

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i think i remember dsda-doom (or woof?) having a feature where cheats can be used in demos

cobalt quartz
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And can't you just skip the boss fight in E1M8, just disable noclip on the death exit and use a rocket launcher to faster kill yourself?

agile solar
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But you do need to fight the cyberdemon and spider mastermind

agile solar
cobalt quartz
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With idkfa you get all weapons

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On the other hand, i would like to try it. What difficulty?

cobalt quartz
agile solar
cobalt quartz
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how about we include E1M9 inside of the run for E1?

cobalt quartz
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since i done some runs now, and best time on uv without it is 1:08, but computer station is dangerous, the outside area, specially if you are low on health

cobalt quartz
# agile solar Yea

its funny. I hope it gets accepted as an actual category, since it can be tricky, but most of the time its fun

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Finally got a run for rush map 5, going to put it up soon

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cobalt quartz
agile solar
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Imma try to record a demo of e1 tomorrow if I have time

cobalt quartz
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i didn't record a demo, just did some regular runs, and i got a 59s run of E1

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Demos are better at recording doom, mainly because other players can look into the run in more depth

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plus demos can go into the archives

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Also I did my practice runs for map 6 of rush, at first I hated this map but now I actually really like it

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It’s all skill based tbh, the only lucky part is with the invulnerability and the 2 cyberdemons

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I beat the game in a nanosecond

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I did in a picosecond

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Cuz in the flasssshhhhh

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i beat

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ep1 and ep2 in less than 12 hours

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I've knocked several minutes off my previous record for No Damage on Inferno. Over 2000 attempts needed! https://youtu.be/XO98JshQM10

0:00 Intro
0:20 Clips of Attempt #400
1:10 Attempts #904-905
4:10 Attempt #1026, Ted's suggestion analysed.
7:25 Attempt #1945 clip, to be continued.
8:10 Attempt #2036 clip.
9:05 Attempts #2068-2072
11:25 New UV Speed + Reality WR demo --- Attempt #2073 starts
12:20 Wow --- no Despair
13:15 Plan for Demon Run
14:40 How's the Strain?
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15sec gold on UN

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@lament venture I saw a cool clip of a DOOM Eternal playthrough where they skipped or flung a Hellknight in his intro arena. You mind if I DM you the short to analyze?

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NO HIT Hell on Earth in 6:41

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The 7:25 run I did in September had a complevel error. Could I go through Inferno faster with No Damage on complevel 3? https://youtu.be/U-eKf8BGHKo

0:00 Intro
0:41 Attempt #1 Clip & several mini-clips
1:05 Attempt #188 Clips
1:45 Thanks, Ted!
1:51 Attempt #306 Clips
3:27 Attempt #323 Clips
3:50 Attempt #352 Clip (includes #269 mini-clip)
7:46 Attempt #359
8:00 New Genuine Bona Fide Approved Rubber-Stamped World Record demo --- Attempt #360 starts
8:59 Real lack of Despair
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSISmMbOEpM

I finally beat the previous record for Doom II: Tangerine Nightmare (Map03). This is the result!

Runner: D0M0
Date: 2022-10-15
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: tn.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 03 (Rain of Embers)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Time: 5:44.17

I have a lot to talk about. so stay tuned!

First of all, I apologise that this took long to complete and upload. Half of the reason is because my mental health has been declining. I usually tend to p...

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This can definitely be beaten tbh, it's a matter of time

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e1m1 can't escape the clutches of me 🙂

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Wow

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World record!

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Guess I'm not the only one who plays Brutal Doom

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Hence the Arachnotron

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I'm back madRedJudge

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finally getting void glides down, i might go for some full runs at some point 😎

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Is speedrun.com accurate? Best I can do for e1m1 is 11 seconds no glitches or cheat codes I don't see how people are getting significantly less than that but on speedrun.com they are, by quite a bit.

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Yes speedrun.com is accurate, however doom speed demos archive is generally considered the official ranking

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You can get an E1M1 9 second run with enough practice

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If you plan on speedrunning doom maps, then I suggest you submit them to DSDA and not speedrun.com.
I suppose it's because with doom speedrunning, it all pretty much relies on demo recording.
Plus DSDA contains custom wad speedruns such as Sunlust. You just have to submit them through the set doomworld thread

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Let me rephrase for you, SRC isn't accurate :p

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like Domo said, check dsdarchive

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but I mean, for e1m1 it's pretty accurate, although I may have submitted a couple of slightly faster runs to dsda 🙂

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does anybody speedrun zdoom wads

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with mouselook and all that

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There’s probably someone out there that does

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i’m not one of those ppl, i play it traditionally

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Can someone else please speedrun classic doom on switch, I’m all alone, epecially for ILs lol, I might as well get mobile doom at this point too and get some ‘world records’

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Lol

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Fine haha

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I’m close to beating the record on switch for E2 M5

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how do you do the void glide rocket boost on E2M6?

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idk how i made to be 1 sec faster in my e1m1 speedrun on touch controls

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Hey guys, I studied with the Book Lords in Scythe Map 17. How fast could I go without taking ANY damage? https://youtu.be/TmH2FdSlnzM

0:00 Intro
0:35 Cautious No Damage Completion Attempt #7 Starts
1:35 Clips of Attempts #2, #3 and #5
2:10 Telepr-imp-ter
7:25 Clips of Attempts #1 and #4
7:55 Door goes up, door goes down
12:25 Attempt #6 Clip
13:00 Speedrun Attempt #10 Clip
13:50 Attempt #76 Clips
14:40 Attempt #128 Clips
15:10 Attempt #294 Clips
15:28 Attempt #185 Clips
15:4...

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Runner: D0M0
Date: 2022-11-22
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: nuts3.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 01 (Entryway)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Time: 15:36.89

(complevel9 - Boom Compatible)

HAPPY NO NUT NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!

But in all seriousness, this was definitely something I was not expecting to finish so soon! I have noticed that my attempt numbers at e...

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For anyone struggling to do it or is looking to try it out

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need to try it more. I remember the first few times I got the wobble down but the rocket would not boost me back into the void.

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I’ll have to watch this video

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awh, no attachments
was gonna post a demo file

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https://youtu.be/LY7hv0_I6x8 just wanted to share this again

Player: Juan Muro Diego "El Juancho"
Date: 10-08-2022 DD-MM-YYYY
IWAD: PLUTONIA.WAD
Complevel: 4 (FINAL DOOM)
Category: Pacifist
Map: 01
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Time: 00:06.86
Attempts: 499

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It finally happened! For the first time ever, 6 secs on Plutonia map01!!! The jump is super RNG and 95% of the time you will ...

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does anyone know how to do the plasma rifle firing macro for eternal

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The final map (Map10) will be uploaded on Saturday, so stay tuned for that!

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guys what the wr for world spear master level i didnt record but i did it in under five minutes i just need to know what the wr!?!

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Any tips on how to speedrun classic doom on nightmare difficulty co op

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Also it's than. Not then

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how do i fix that

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Scythe X is complete!

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If it's doom 93 there are no co op monsters so the strategy doesn't change much

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And it's true you can make your name whatever you want. Just wanted to let you know that your name doesn't make sense with the spelling mistake

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Sorry for the animosity I’m trying to do the not so bad achievement on Xbox for doom 1993 so I have to beat all levels on nightmare difficulty in co op mode

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(It's no longer a wr, it got reclaimed)

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(And I reclaimed it back, prepare yourselves, the time difference is a bit insane)

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What does a glitchless doom eternal Speedrun look like 👀

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It’s no longer a world record, but ill change the thumbnail later

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and yet another saga is done

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I was doomguy_shock when you killed the marauder in literally 3 seconds

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I was just wondering how many people are doing speed runs on classic doom using switch? That's all I have right now and I'm wondering if there are any tricks I should know.

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Recently got a twelve second on hager Nintendo switch edition. Very fun.

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O

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any tips on speed running military base faster?

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Run faster

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if youd like you can DM me and we can discuss

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have a question about a specific tech?

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sadly, meathooking is fps dependant... faster & further hooks on higher fps

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The moment you have all been waiting for!

https://youtu.be/TM12mtJrm8M

Runner: D0M0
Date: 2022-12-31
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: comatose.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 01 (Comatose)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3 (MacOS Build)
Time: 28:39.17
complevel 2 (Doom II)

Comatose... a prolonged state of being deeply unconscious, which can vary between days and even months. This is usually caused by someone being in severe injury or...

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how yall do the fly thing with weapon wheel? i saw some people do it and i dont know if i can use it on console

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You can’t, they use the weapon wheel’s slow-time mechanic and weird jump physics by binding the jump button to the scroll wheel on a mouse

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This year for speedrunning will be different. I will be playing through eviternity in about 2 weeks from now. and in between the 6 episodes, I will be completing maps from other wads, just so there’s a break in between

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does that sound like a good idea?

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You can absolutely use weapon wheel to gain speed boosts on both current version of the game AND console!

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Here's an example for a turret boost.

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And here for one of the Urdak yeethooks, also xbox / current version of the game

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Really satisfying

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Man you killed that shield and axe demon so fast it always takes me a few minutes to fight him alone LOL

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On older patches you would just throw the ice bomb over their head and shoot rockets in their back

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fyi i got over 4k hours on DE

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Jeez lmao, i just got it yesterday myself

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how can i do this?

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In 2023 speedrunners gonna find out you can meathook heavy demons, turn on fps, then unhook for slingshot

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Can anyone help me figure out why I'm not in the special fish state? I'm new to speedrunning and can do most tech, but cant seem to get this one down.

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Special fish

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I think I'm pretty damn close because I keep hitting my head on the celling in atlantica facility while in a swimming state.

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Wish I could send a clip here...

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he made a new wr?

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yeah, i loved when the devs reacted to the speedrun

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oh shit

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I’m on controller can anyone help me like speedrun like tips and that

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im still downloading doom 2016 XD

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how fast is your wifi

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sometimes it reaches 4,0 MB/s but its usually at 2,5/3

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ow

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that's gonna take a while

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at least you don't have to wait a day

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ah can't help with that

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It’s ok

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sometimes it drops

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idk man its 4 MB/s rn and it says 3 1/2 hours left

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basically 4 hours left

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is it 33GB

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its almost 68 gb total

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oh wait what the fuck i remember it being way lower

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69*

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good god that shit wouldn't fit on my PC even if i factory reset it

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im scared cuz idk if it works on my laptop

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wait should we change channel? this is not the correct topic

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I usually play on hurt me plenty but I don’t know how to speed run and I keep on just dying

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Ok what shall I do then ??

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Restricted??

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Ps5

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Thats good for runs, a lot of movement tech in Eternal is fps dependant, so having 120 fps over 60 is better.

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Here's my Any% Restricted run on xbox series s. Anything i do.. you can aswell.

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Anyone got a guide to bunnyhopping on controller eternal cuz I’m trying but I am keep on messing up and losing momentum

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Just be sure on what slop you are going to land

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anyone can explain me how punch swap works?

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i have to wait some ms after i see the weapon?

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no that doesn't work

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i noticed there is a tempo you can play around with

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(less inputs)

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Also for precision bolt, you can try simply holding scope and do the other inputs

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details?

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single level? which one?

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single segment (whole game at once)?

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difficulty?

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100% kills/secrets?

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MuteD6's 100% UN World Record 👀

https://youtu.be/Rp_ut895PPY

Follow me on twitch for a free cookie :D https://www.twitch.tv/muted6_

This has been the hardest record that I had to grind for, and I am now the second person to simultaneously hold Restricted and Hundo UN record, a feat that only Xiae, the greatest Eternal player, had achieved previously. Xiae was such an inspiration, he was the one who got m...

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The free-scroll mouse wheel macro for doom eternal has been acting up for me. When I first started using it, it worked great, but now it doesn't work. When I push and hold mouse-button 3, it merely inputs a single jump input, and doesn't input any additional, rapid-fire ones like it's supposed to. When the macro isn't active, pushing mouse-button 3 does nothing at all, as you'd expect, meaning that the macro is active when it exhibits the behavior I mentioned earlier, it's just not working. It's this one: https://github.com/henyK/doom-eternal-macro
Does anyone know how to fix this?

GitHub

A speedrunning-intended macro for DOOM Eternal that allows you to spam inputs without a freescroll mouse. - GitHub - henyK/doom-eternal-macro: A speedrunning-intended macro for DOOM Eternal that al...

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there is a new wr in restricted

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what's the funniest level to speedrun? I'm currently learning hell on heart and the punch skips are so cool

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Can you still super jump and can you do it on controller

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can't wait to get there, still stuck to hell on earth and trying to do the jump skip for the yellow key

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Get good. Practice and you'll get better with time king

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the fun is where you learn the theory by watching people like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHWF5cjai9E&ab_channel=Raitro

This game is bad, but it's fun.

Note on Slope Boosting
It doesn't have anything to do with you being in a ledge, but rather the ledge is curved so the jump extension zone-plane-thing is converted into a RAMP jump extension zone, and those specific types of jump extensions are what allow you to stack jumps together, not the jump itself bein...

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Then a world record speedrun or and you start learning by watching and replicating

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The fun part is when you give up because it's not possible to compete without a freescroll mousewheel and the macro to emulate that functionality on non-freescroll mice doesn't work

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BHopping without frame-perfect inputs

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It's not a matter of opinion, you're just wrong here

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There are no runners who are remotely competitive that manually time all of their bhops

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plenty do, i can think of bowsr on MnK

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Strange, I googled "bowsr", clicked the first result, and it's a video of him with all of his inputs being displayed in the bottom-right. And, what's this, he's inputting all of his bhops with scrollwheel? It's almost like he has a free-scroll mousewheel or is using a functional macro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFgBcmc6HA

This is a practice run, so please excuse all the simple mistakes and really dumb deaths lol. Normally wouldn't upload a practice run, but it's a WR so might as well.

== LINKS ==
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bowsr
Twitter: https://twitter.com/bowsrcs

DOOM Eternal Keybinds ➡ https://pastebin.com/raw/D8Z9m0GS
PC Specs ➡ https://pcpartpicker.com/...

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you don't need a scrollwheell bound jump / macro to speedrun doom eternal....period.

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There aren't any examples of people who are competitive for the PC WR in any major category who don't use one though

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Far from "impossible" too.

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I haven't speedrun the game because I can't get the macro to work

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Have you gotten DESRU ?

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No, I just downloaded the macro individually from the github link I posted earlier

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and are you in the ModernDoom Speedrunning server

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handful of people can help you there if you make a post in the DE-Support

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I'll try there, thanks

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I'll remember you when I'm at the top

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@gusty field you know right that bunny hop is like a parry

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It requires timing and it is consistent and absolute, just memorise the slopes and practice

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Because fun and improvement is an option

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At this point use an aimbot no?@gusty field

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aimbot isn't allowed on the leaderboards

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In 2021 I stopped playing 'Chasing Suns' with a UV Max + Reality + Items record of 4:00.43. How much faster did I go when I returned in 2022/2023? https://youtu.be/bjCCK9AZnh0

0:00 Intro
0:34 Clip of Attempt #184
0:40 Attempt #185
4:40 Clips of Attempts #215, #426, #1411, #3281 and #3688
5:15 Attempt #3881
6:05 Attempt #3882
6:40 Attempt #3883
10:00 Clip of Attempt #3925
10:40 Clip of Attempt #5404
12:00 Attempt #5445
12:45 Attempt #5446
13:20 New World Record for UV Max + Reality + Items --- Attempt #5447
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where's the discord DSDA mentions on their advice page

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this just in!

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the goat 🐐

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True

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Is there anywhere I can go to learn speedrun tech for doom eternal? I checked the guides on speedrun.com but there was nothing there

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What’s the source port of choice for speedrunning the original doom

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It has many features specifically added for spreedrunning

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I use DSDA and it’s very good, the hud features help out a bunch when it comes to soeedrunning

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# verbal epoch is there a speedrun movement guide

yup , check out DrakePhose's channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjNF2WHz1Bw&t=15s

https://www.twitch.tv/DrakePHOSE
DOOM Eternal Basics Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlCqyHMmj44tyHfL3xJzA2JrP5uLVHhaP

0:00 - Ground Movement
0:27 - Diagonal Ground Movement
0:34 - Ramp Ground Movement
0:47 - Ground Acceleration
1:03 - Air Acceleration
1:30 - Air Strafing
2:40 - History Lesson
4:54 - Summary

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uhm, can I share something i found out for the 100% speedrun?

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or rather, if it is worth working on it

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what's the bunny hop macro? just spam jump?

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idk if the double jump actually slows you down

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@potent holly do you know anything about this?

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eternal speedruns are pretty darn impressive but i'm nowhere near knowledgeable on them

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np!

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It can be used for other runs, too, but tbh it's less reliable than just using mouse wheel, even if it's a "sub par" mouse

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i use a macro that lasts 0.3s and spams left click, which is the same(?)

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For the purposes of Speedrun.com leaderboards, only the approved macro is allowed.

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There's a lot more I could detail about it but the tldr is it's not as big a deal as it sounds like. Basically you could bind the macro to left click if you really wanted.

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or simply swap equipment launcher with jump and i'm done (equipment launcher is on the mouse wheel)

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All that said feel free to Speedrun any way you want regardless of leaderboard rule shenanigans. Fun is first and foremost.

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Regardless though, spamming jump in quick succession is useful for a variety of crap. Most notably making bunny hops easier, but also it can give extra height on certain jumps, even on current patch

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mh... can you link me the macro? there is nothing in the sources'

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I'd link the discord but I think this discord bans those kind of links ^^"

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did the stroll wheel get patched?

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I don’t know any other glitches

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There is a channel that can help you, let me link it

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He made a video about most of movement mechanics

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I learnt how to do all the combos with the precision bolt, but damn if the punch swap is hard to time i swear

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@lament venture i found out something cool about cacodemons. If you glory killed them and then punch, they can be used as a speed boost

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Hey I'm trying to do this combo this speedrunner did against marauder and I have no idea how he's able to do it. He uses PB nade then does full lock on with Rockets during the stagger. I dont get how he's able to do it during stagger. The lockon even without nade seems to take longer than the actual stagger. https://youtu.be/UXaet6Bcey4?t=349

Easy WR when nobody else is running this category :)

As disappointing as it is to not get it under 10 minutes (because of some light throwing towards the end), I got really good RNG in this run that I don't want to grind for again. However, this is a part of a bigger thing that I'm working on, so stay tuned.

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thanks dude! someone just linked me that as well. was exactly what i was looking for 🙂

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The tl;dr on how it works against Marauders specifically -

Precision Bolt to stagger the Marauder the first time AND to set up SLOBS
Frag so that the Marauder will be stunned a second time after the first LockOn salvo
SLOBS -> first 3 rockets hit during the "first stagger", frag hits to do a second stagger, the second 3 rockets hit during the "second stagger"

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AH thanks!

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also by chance do you know how to spawn an enemy like he did in the video so i can practice?

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I think you need to get the Eternal Mod Injector, and just have access to console commands in general? I'll admit it's been forEVER since I got stuff installed though.

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ah ok thanks for the help ill have a look there

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holy fuck thats hard i can only get it like 50% of the time against enemies that can't move lol

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Oh. That

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@quasi tundra

Non ultra nightmare https://youtu.be/dJ2xA5ySIE0

Ultra Nightmare https://youtu.be/d5lTAbAAP_c

Still looking for a way to skip this arena on Ultra Nightmare, possibly with some weird dash boosts, BUT that said if you hug this corner up top, you can get a checkpoint to reload and it puts you after the fight (invisible box removed as well).

Make sure to check out my Twitch where I livestream!

Twitter: https://twitter.com/BloodShot9001

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Herea is an easy way to do this fight on Ultra Nightmare, and a way to skip the arena for current patch. Note: this arena gets skipped in an entirely different way on early patches due to the invisible block that they added.

Make sure to check out my Twitch where I livestream!

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gotcha thanks!

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Beat my old pb by 18 seconds dealguy

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When I saw that 4ShockBlast had a previous No Damage record in The Catacombs, I didn't expect to beat him. But things went better than expected... https://youtu.be/SVfk4J8jn-4

0:00 Intro, featuring Karl Jobst
0:40 No Damage Completion Attempt #9
1:30 Attempt #10 Starts
4:00 Clips of Attempts #2 and #3
10:00 Speedrunning begins
13:30 Finding a new strategy
15:00 Taking on 4ShockBlast
19:10 New World Record demo
21:40 Outro with stream announcement

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Thanks ❤️

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I'm thinking about starting speedruning, which game do you think I should start with?

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so i suppose go wild and try and find the game you enjoy the most

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speaking of which I should really start speedrunning again, i’ve taken a week break and I think it’s affected my performance badly

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did u guys see world record

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27 mins full campaign

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I had a pretty good time for episode 1

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I think it was like 7 minutes or something

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Funniest de speed run method is definitely secret dev tp area

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Yeh

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i prefer seeing 100% speedruns

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Or just the restricted runs

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Where you can’t do crazy skips

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Ig there’s avocado skip

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"full campaign" is a much too loaded term and shouldn't be used to imply 100%

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100% itself is also a loaded term because as far as the game's completion tracking is concerned, incidental fights don't count towards 100%

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but walking past said fights is outside of the literal definition of 100%, no?

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despawning encounters (something like fast exultia gate) where a part/majority/entirety of a fight is skipped but it still counts as completed is also legitimate within the bounds of 100% as far as the game is concerned, but you'd say that isn't in the spirit of a "real" 100% run (hence the restricted ruleset exists)

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so if the definition of 100% is that arbitrary and floaty, i don't think it makes sense to rule any% unrestricted out of "full campaign" runs as if there's any consistency here

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again, as far as the game is concerned, getting from starting cutscene to end credits counts as beating the campaign

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"full campaign" doesn't really even mean full campaign even in a casual context, so assigning some arbitrary completion % below which a playthrough doesn't count as the "full campaign" is dubious at best

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this is why we use categories, it's infinitely easier to say whether something belongs in a box with arbitrary bounds than The Objective Truth Box

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Was it ever allowed or am I tweakin

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there was a vote at some point to consider it OOB even though it's technically not

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hello

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where's the server for modern doom game running?

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Here

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There no specific speed running game chat lol

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Really?

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No, I'm making it up. 😒 /s

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Funnily enough they actually left this server and joined the speedrun server so I guess they found it already.

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Ok

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can you speedrun doom eternal on switch?

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like to a certain extent

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Yes. There's not a lot of people who run on console but MMAFRO consistently does Xbox runs, and while it has a higher FPS than Switch, Switch can still do most skips and strats that Xbox can do.

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A pet project of mine has been routing out Any% for Console/Current Patch.

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i just need to learn the routing and how to “yeet”

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right?

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There's more than that, though those would be the biggest thigns yeah.

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There's a few other tricks that could help in certain areas. Pause Boosting in particular is probably something that console would do more often than PC

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i want to get into doom speedrunning on console but i cant find any guides so thanks for helping

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# golden stream i want to get into doom speedrunning on console but i cant find any guides so th...

MMAFRO goes through the 100% Base Game route for consoles! If you want to speedrun on console, MMAFRO's tips and walkthrough can help you get started

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hello do you fellow human beings have doom eternal?

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doom

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yes

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slow walking better ngl

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750 attempts for Rush Map 11 and there is yet to be a submitted run cacocringe

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Speedrunning is hard

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does anyone know how to trigger the all-ghosts affect on e1m8 of ultimate doom

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A lot of my attempts for rush 11 have been close, so it’s more than likely my first speedrun after a month will be released very soon

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I've now hit 1000 attempts

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how do you strafe on unity doom

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you press a move forward/backward key and a side movement key at the same time

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if you are asking how to sr50 then that's automatic on unity doom

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so you don't have the usual angle lock that would be present in actual sr50

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when you talk about speedrunning on source ports sr50 on turns is a TAS tool and not allowed for use, but on unity for some reason it's automatic and can't be disabled :^)

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Is it possible to do sr50 on console?

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depends on the controller, I have no idea why but the speeds that a controller can reach are random basically

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I remember one guy saying their controller could do sr50 to the right but not to the left, speed was slower then

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also apparently speeds can differ on the same controller compared to if it's hooked up to steam or if it's just console

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I'm not a unity speedrunner but in the console doom discord they post a zip for an app that tests what speeds your can controller can reach

brittle fossil
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i've been trying to do that one skip to exit room on e1m4

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jump on the staircase?

brittle fossil
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yea

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that one is a bit random afaik but a rough angle setup makes it more consistent (or just having a more side on action so that you go straight up the stairs

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i just did it randomly and got a 12:94

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which qualifies for like 14th place

brittle fossil
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best i could get was a 12:77 so 13th place

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idt runs with unity r valid tho

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yall beat this in 12 minutes?

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i cant get past doom hunter in like 3 hrs

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i took 3 hrs

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only bc i beat the one doom hunter but then bro goes were not over yet and makes me fight 2 of them with like 2 million other zombies

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Doom hunter is ez

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Doom hunter is in my opinion the easiest superdemon

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Ain't the easiest boss the gladiator tho

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I'm actually back this time dealguy

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ik its irrelevent but i was wondering

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wide quest
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ok i have to try this
ty mr bloodshot

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I've only done a couple of runs so far, but I do have a time of 2 hrs. Is that good?

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Doom 1993 any% first three episodes

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I want to get started with Doom speedrunning. Where should I start?

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there aren't any time related achievements other than that

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I'm referring to a Steam Achievements 100% Speedrun.

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Tl;Dr, Speedrun what you want, have fun. Join the Speedrun discord if you want to route/discuss it

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So I'm curious, has noone submitted for UV Max runs?

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I guess it's all just under Doom (Unity Ports)

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Only the Unity Ports are submitted on speedrun.com
Classic Doom Speedrunners usually use the dsda website in order to leaderboard their runs
I don't really know as to why, but if I were to guess, it's probably because demo files are uploaded onto the website, which are a big part of doom speedrunning.

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The website also has instructions on how to submit runs to the archive as well as useful tips for speedrunning, so i'd highly recommend you check it out regardless

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That's true as well, but I think it's a better alternative to speedrun.com specifically for Classic Doom

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Are speedruns from Classic Doom accepted only with original settings, like mouselook only horizontal and not freelook or jumping?

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woa

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wait freelook and jumping????

oblique nest
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Anyone here stream eternal speedeuns?

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i was pointing out how DSDA has more runs uploaded to it because it's been around for way longer

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I'll say it's something I'm learning, specifically UV Max

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Yeah i was trying to but theres one level and i just cant find the exit lol

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the current tag1 any% restricted world record is 15 minutes, shorter than a uv max run of any given classic doom episode

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100% Max runs for Eternal are like 2 hours

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Those are also 100% UN Restricted (i.e. most of the major glitches not allowed, like slope boosting or IDKFA)

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Not saying 100% Unrestricted on ITYTD would be short, but there's a looooot of stuff that would be opened up. That said, there's not many who really wanted to run the category. 🤷

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Wish me good luke im going for ultra nightmare

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Good evening
Does the weapon wheel scroll super jump work on the current version?

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what us the source port that speedrunners use?

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surely they use the same one for parity right

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and how does it actually perform? is it tailored to speedrunning or is it just a close to vanilla port that they happened to agree on

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Its tailored to speedrunning, can run almost all mapsets (no gzdoom mod support obvs) and at the same time it is perfect for casual play

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iirc crispy doom is used sometimes because its ever-so-slightly better performance on some maps can be useful
take this with a grain of salt

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are GZDoom TCs allowed on DSDA?

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i would assume not, because the only IWADs on the site are og 90s WADs

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well if there's a page for the wad then yeah

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all demos are allowed on dsda, the wad just had to be on there lol, even if it's a TC I guess
and if it's not I think if you make a doomworld post of the demo anyway it'll just be there and you'll have the first demo (make sure wad is final)

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i see, thanks

quasi void
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Hello

potent holly
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neat

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Nice

golden stream
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yo on the speedruns for doom its says RTA only
what is that

graceful yew
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for doom eternal, I play on Xbox, any recommendations?

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alr

quasi tundra
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at least not one good enough for running it

quasi tundra
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speedrunning is so hard...

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yo speedrunning and your dad have something in common

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if you dont get the joke dont try to

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understandable

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# young cliff speedrunning is so hard...

There's definitely a lot of more beginner friendly strats that can help ease someone into it. Stuff like Pause Boosting or Per Caco are probably some of the "easiest to do for big gains" skips/tricks a person could learn.

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You could have both bloods59Think

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me being confused as to why discord says I was pinged here

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did the message get deleted or smth?

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probably a troll

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Ghost ping most likely

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is sigil fun to speedrun uv speed?

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I tried a speedrun, took me an hour

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for classic doom

potent holly
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list of movement glitches you can use to go faster

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Yo guys how can I skip the entire reclaimed earth level and also immora I have been trying bowsr skip on immora and it is not working for me as well as the reclaimed earth skip

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Ah ok

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the painful part of most speedruns (and that goes for all games) is that getting a good time is usually correlated to having good luck in the run

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ive spent hundreds of attempts on some easy to beat levels all because i keep getting runs where my luck is awful

lament venture
# tropic jolt Yo guys how can I skip the entire reclaimed earth level and also immora I have b...

I'd have to double check if current patch fucked anything up, but for Reclaimed Earth you can yeethook into a particular bit or geometry and it'll give you a ton of height with which you can then ballista boost over towards the end.

From there if you get on top of the last arena, there should be a hole you can fall down into the arena, though I forget specifically where it is.

As far as Immora, Bowsrs skip that gets directly to the end is extremely difficult due to some weird invisible ceilings in the level that need to be bypassed

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Alright I will try the reclaim earth but the immora one instead of it sending me up high it literally sent me back down Idk how did that happen but I died and my run ended

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Best sourceport for speedrunning?

potent holly
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in terms of features

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It would be cool to start speedrunning the game but I don't think I'm built for that

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Is it better than dosbox or chocolate doom? what's the difference feature wise

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a sort of spectator mode, being able to play multiple demos at once and view it, etc.

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i can't list all of the cool things because i primarily switched to dsda because prboom used to have weird resolution issues with my PC and it was the first alternative i knew

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I have it downloaded but I haven't tried it out yet

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Gonna start attempts on an underhalls nightmare pacifist run

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danm

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last night stream by mabbib was an absolute legend, before this he got sub 1:42 and now sub 1:41

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I'm sorry if all these runs come out across as spammy

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It loaded now

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lament venture
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Chastity Event hosted by MDSR!

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think I might have finally beaten the WR for level 1 earth Geared category

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I recently been trying to speedrun ultraviolence for the first time on doom 2

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100%

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nice lil update to see!

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mighty Doom new WR on level 5 Nekravol Barebones category

jagged halo
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New potential WR take back being uploaded now...(currently holding 2nd place)

level 10 UAC Facility Geared Category in 6 min 56 sec.

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Should I try and optimise this map?

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I think the route is already optimised, I just need good luck with infighting

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I see

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Well gl

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let me know how i can improve, ive been attempting this category and map for 3 hours and i've only gotten 0:44

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this one too

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both of these runs are quite luck based, but:
Try to strafe more, it's faster than walking straight forward (called SR40, there's SR50 which is faster but that's a bit harder as you cannot turn while doing it)
For the max run, you don't need the green armour, and the fastest way to do the first room is to kill the bottom right one fo the shotgun and then kill the other 3 from below in 2 shots
for the computer room, ideally you'd use 4 shots (can be 3 but insanely stupid to get)
for the 2 shotgunners in the secret below, again, one shot is ideal

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overall you just need to start strafing more and stop less, but the max is so RNG based it's insane, the pacifist is not as RNG based but to get an ideal run for whoever's running it you still need luck

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of the total 19 possible World Records (the additional 3 are essentially impossible atm)

I think I just achieved a World Record for level 8 Hell On Earth in the Geared Category.

this will put me at holding I think 18 of the 19 total World Records between the Geared and barebones category

https://youtu.be/pw3_YtPAbJg

just need the 19th one.....Level 1 Geared. always a hard one for me as I've never had the WR for this level ever

new world record !

level 8 Hell On Earth

Geared Category

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trying to speedrun hangar in DOOM (1993) UV+ rn. my best run so far is 11:97 seconds. my goal is 9 seconds but idk if i can do that lol. been at it all day

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hopefully I'll get an 11:50 or less run to upload by the end of the day

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i love speedrunning doom levels tho bc it literally gives u the time at the end. this game was MADE to speedrun

rocky pewter
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It's not a great run tbh, but yea hopefully that helps u find where the time is lol

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OMG I JUST GOT 11 43!!!!

rocky pewter
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i only just see "11"

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Oooh okay, that might be why

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Actually yeah that is why, I remember that in older speed runs I've seen don't have milliseconds just second

rocky pewter
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3 second time save probably because i realized monsters can activate the secrets

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i got a 0:38 but i missed a guy 😭

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this time i got a 0:39 but i missed a guy

rocky pewter
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theres so many different like sections and stuff

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Ya know what? Im thinking about icon of sin uv pacifist

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Its technically possible, and people are using RNG manipulation in some runs

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What if we manage to calculate a tolerable method to achieve pacifist run in map30

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speedrun.com is somewhere you can upload runs, but for doom there’s also dsda, which is what I use since there’s far more runs on there and it’s much more reliable

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And somehow come up with a doable route

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it’s a 0.78% chance for a vile to spawn in the icon of sin

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from what I remember as well you need something like 20 viles for it to work

summer blade
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I know but the way how doom's random number works it is possible to manipulate that

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but at the same time it’s still impossible for now

summer blade
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Yeah there are too many variables especially when there are a ton of monsters shooting and walking

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I think saying it's easier said than done is an insanely heavy understatement 😅
just saying "just manipulate the RNG lol" does not do anything, you do realize that you'd have to be frame perfect without fail for an unreasonable amount of time to consistently get 20 vile spawns
If there is a way to do the run, it's not going to be frame perfect inputs for several minutes straight to consistently get 20 viles, and doing it on a whim isn't exactly realistic either, with as you mentioned all the variables which also include ammo and health eventually; so, it would have to be some other method

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“you could just do a couple quintillion attempts and eventually get the luck you need” 🗿

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yeah it’s basically impossible. I’ve had 1 vile appear in an icon of sin fight. Never had anymore than 1

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yeah

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also idk why I said ammo cause you can't even kill the excess shit lol

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makes it even worse

potent holly
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would be an insane TAS

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the tas exists

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potent holly
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are you the real one

onyx warren
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John Doom

royal trench
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Teach me the ways of the speedrunner

cold canopy
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For yeet hooking, does anybody know if 60fps will get enough speed to do the tricks?

lament venture
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Let me get a good example from DHB

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Note that that was done on the quick. There's probably better/faster setups, etc (also that was at 30 fps anyways).

I think the only skips that might give you trouble (and even then only might) would be Tetrahook in Final Sin, which in of itself isn't even a huge deal, and some of the punch boosts might require weapon wheel where otherwise it wouldn't be used

lament venture
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Absolutely 🙂 If you have any questions, especially about specific skips that PC players use, feel free to ask (am at work but I will eventually get back when I can)

rocky pewter
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bruhhh

potent holly
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upload it to dsda

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i'm assuming you used gz, that's banned from speedruns lmao

rocky pewter
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:/

frail urchin
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What's the fastest you guys have beaten doom classic

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doom II? fastest was like 3 hours (only because I haven’t really tried)

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final laurel
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hey guys, im thinking about entering the speedrun doom community, any tips?

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Focus on having fun and learning at your own pace. I always suggest people try a few speedruns without looking up much (maybe watch a run or two and from there try anything you want).

Once you kind of understand the game and how fast you can do it, you can start getting a feel/understanding of how much skips actually skip/save time, or how important fight routing can be, etc.

(This is mostly focused on Eternal/2016, I don't claim to know much about og Doom running, though Id still stand by my 'try some runs on your own first' thing)