speedrunning

[vapid cloud]

I mean, it is a pretty difficult map

[thorn cape]

It's definitely the grindiest :)

[golden stream]

done with hangar lol, i dont wanna spend any more time playing this map

[stiff turret]

221st attempt?

Dang how long have you been grinding?

[golden stream]

Honestly not that long. 80% of those attempts were just fails at the screen swipe at the start lol

[stiff turret]

Yeah I feel that

It took 502 for my 9.91

I'm like 16th on the leaderboards on DSDA

[golden stream]

Maybe like 45 minutes, got 4x 9’s today

[stiff turret]

I took the Pilger route, I got his time

[golden stream]

Having a go at NM100s now, got 20.71 on controller on the unity port, will see if I can beat that time

[golden stream]

Got 19.74 like 30 minutes ago and I just can't beat it

[golden stream]

If I grinded hard enough, I could probably get 18 but I've had enough. Might revisit when I've learned SR50.

[stiff turret]

yikes 701

wait are you sure this is NM?

I thought the enemies would attack faster, with no reaction time and all that

[golden stream]

yeah i thought it looked too slow

but it's skill 5

start dsda-doom.exe -iwad doom.wad -warp 1 1 -complevel 3 - skill 5 -record e1m1nms

that's my .bat file. it's too quick to be uv but it's too slow to be nm imo

[golden stream]

i hate this category now

[stiff turret]

rip

[golden stream]

skill 5 is nightmare, right?

[stiff turret]

it should be

[golden stream]

idk why it looks so slow then. im positive that it's on skill 5. i'll be annoyed if i did 700 attempts and the run's invalid lol

[stiff turret]

yeah that'd be annoying

[stiff turret]

oh yeah stroller can be quite the nightmare

[ionic quarry]

I'll take that as a compliment, Coffeeguy. Thanks.

[hoary stump]

this is on skill 4

its pretty obvious when watching it, but I ran -analysis and

skill 4
nomonsters 0
respawn 0
fast 0
pacifist 1
stroller 0
reality 0
almost_reality 0
100k 0
100s 1
missed_monsters 27
missed_secrets 0
weapon_collector 0
tyson_weapons 1
turbo 0
solo_net 0
coop_spawns 0
category Pacifist

your batch file has a space between the dash and skill in -skill 5

so its defaulting to your default difficulty of UV

sorry to be the bearer of bad news 😦

[golden stream]

ohh ok, well there goes an hour of my life lol

and nah it’s fine, was pretty dumb of me not noticing there wasn’t fast monsters

will do more attempts tn

[hoary stump]

its okay ive done the oppposite by mistake before

ran a demo on NM when I was going for pacifist... ended up being MUCH easier on UV of course lol

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret @vapid cloud

lol

[stiff turret]

👀 👀 👀

niceeee

[thorn cape]

It took only 84 attempts since I learnt the new map32 route :^)
Since I learnt it, I did about 84 attempts, maybe a few more that I forgot to record. Death count:
11: 11
12: 52
13: 7
14: 3
15: 1
31: 4
32: 3
16: 1
17: 0
18: 1
19: 0
20: 0

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/MFxw0Hvbjro

[vapid cloud]

Finally

Congrats!

[thorn cape]

Thanks :^)

NM-speed d2all next, should be easier :p

Most of the maps are like cut in half, and don't have to deal with 31-32...

[golden stream]

gg!

[stiff turret]

Goddamn

[thorn cape]

Yeah, combed through all 30 (no need for 31-32 here :D) maps on NM-speed

it's definitely easier :)

a list of all the maps that are noticably easier:
01, 04 (?), 08, 12, 13, 14, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, and the absence of 31-32 is really nice

Some other maps have minor changes that aren't as helpful in terms of survival but are still nice (06, 10, 15, 17 which is already free, 20, 23, 29 only if you miss the megasphere jump but still happen to have left over health from 28)

If you have like 100/100 in 29 and miss the megasphere jump, I say don't bother and just continue, you'll be fine :)

In NMS, even if you have an insane amount of health, you still need to tag the secret :p

[south lark]

my first demo of uvspeed of e1m1

also another uvspeed

[vapid cloud]

Linedef skip over the exit line

The previous WR was 1:21

I got 1:19

I'll upload to dsda when I get a 1:18

Its dbp37_augzen map01 UV speed

[stiff turret]

OOF

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/5-dZEiowyoA

[stiff turret]

nicee

you growing

[golden stream]

ty!

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/oQhXMgcGLk8

[vapid cloud]

dbp37 is fun

https://youtu.be/Eg5WDyVx2CY

[golden stream]

Nice one, GG! DBP37 looks sick, I need to do a speedrun of it

[vapid cloud]

thx!

really love this wad

[golden stream]

This WAD might actually be my favourite so far lol

[vapid cloud]

Damn

And I thought my run was pretty good

GGs

[stiff turret]

damn

[golden stream]

Thanks!

[golden stream]

I give up with NM, too much RNG involved. The chaingunner at the top of the stairs keeps on blowing up the barrels right in my face

[thorn cape]

hmm

NM, you say? :^)

[golden stream]

yeah, did around 200 attempts of dbp37 01 nm, got close to the exit twice i think. it definitely is possible, i just don't have the tolerance to do it

just needs good rng, which is pretty much most nm demos

[thorn cape]

hmm, tried it, not really the kind of NM I do :p

not much to the run

[real nebula]

https://youtu.be/DRtnaeMa7sU

[tropic rune]

wonder if I can speedrun doom 1 on mobile..

[clever ingot]

Probably not

[vestal silo]

hey ive been trying to get into doom speedrunning, is there a parameter to loop only 1 level, for example if i wanted to practice e1m1 or map 1 could i set it up in a way that finishing the level loops back to the same level instead of having to close out and rerun my batch file

alternatively is there a way to extract a single map from a wad and play it on repeat

if it is relevant ive been trying to run it in crispy doom

[thorn cape]

What source port?

[vestal silo]

crispy doom

[real nebula]

In crispy setup you can set a hotkey to restart the demo

[thorn cape]

on crispy doom and dsda-doom you can bind a demo reset key

yeah just go into crispy-doom-setup and bind it :)

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't read your whole wall of text and missed the bottom bit about the sourceport :p

[vestal silo]

ok tysm, got it working

[thorn cape]

np

[trim bluff]

First episode ive prob beaten in 7-10 mins

Not sure

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/WvbPMi8FUbI

[golden stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBxAfjwpuE8

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/bt7ke-iIFy4

[golden stream]

where am i loosing time? 8 feels impossible -_-

i sr50'd for 90% of the run

[stiff turret]

@golden streamI'll send you think link for the doom speedrunning discord Hell on Earth, which may be able to answer your questions more easily

[golden stream]

ok

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret @vapid cloud got 17:12 on plep3 :p

only about 100 attempts, most resetting in 21, glad that it was way easier now

not that fast, map22 was like +10 and map27 was +20 :/

15 is probably unfeasible, though

[golden stream]

gg!

[vapid cloud]

Damn

GGs

d2all when

[thorn cape]

Well.. I'm going to optimize ep1 next. And in these attempts, I'm going to continue to 11 for some light-hearted d2all attempts ;)

it's definitely the long-term goal. Soon 🙂

[stiff turret]

Ooh nice

[thorn cape]

started streaming plutonia NM100s d2all practice/attempts on twitch

bad wifi but usually it's watchable :^)

[vapid cloud]

d2all nm100s?

Yep, you are going insane :P

[stiff turret]

Ooh nice

[golden stream]

Is speedrunning doom on Nintendo switch run legal?

[real nebula]

I think yes, however you have to submit it in the unity port page in speedrun.com, you can't submit unity port runs on dsda

[golden stream]

Ok

You can submit it on dsta if it’s on steam tho right?

[golden stream]

Depends if it has a demo system or not. For example, the Unity port doesn't have demo support, so all runs go onto speedrun.com, but DSDA-Doom can support demos, so the demos go onto DSDA.

[real nebula]

If you're using a sourceport with vanilla demo compatibility (DSDA-Doom, Crispy doom , etc) then it is allowed

[golden stream]

Ah I see thanks

[golden stream]

Also do you know how to get the no monsters thing in doom?

Cuz I don’t know how to get it

[real nebula]

you need to use the command line parameter "-nomonsters"

if you don't know how to use the command line you can download doom runner or zdl

they are both doom launchers that help you more easily run doom with custom parameters

https://github.com/Youda008/DoomRunner/releases/tag/v1.5.1

[golden stream]

So I assume you can’t access the command line on switch?

[real nebula]

You can't unfortunately

Honestly, regardless if you want to speedrun the unity port or the vanilla game, PC is way better if it's available

[golden stream]

Ok, is it even possible to strafe on console? Cuz I don’t know how to strafe run lol, I’m stupid

Do you know of any strafe running tutorials or whatever

[vapid cloud]

Do you mean sr50? Cuz the Unity port has auto sr50.
So on console you really just gotta run at 45 degrees

[golden stream]

Hm I see

[thorn cape]

not all controllers can reach sr50
most cant

and some can only reach it in one direction

[golden stream]

Switch controllers are pretty much incapable of strafing afaik

Talked to 2 switch runners and they both say that they move quicker by just moving forward

[thorn cape]

LOL that's hilarious

[golden stream]

Does that mean that speedrunning on switch is gonna be slower?

[golden stream]

Yeah

[golden stream]

By how much?

Also which version of the original doom should I get/download then?

Like which port or whatever

[thorn cape]

well, let's put it this way

sr50 is 141% faster than normal walk forward

iirc

guess there's a figure :^)

[stiff turret]

On PC? For speedrunning, I'd recommend DSDA-Doom but it's also good for casual play too

[golden stream]

Where do you download that

Also do you think, just pathwhise, which path would be best for a beginner

Like this one https://youtu.be/OQFvuKHrEgY

[real nebula]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0242/

[golden stream]

Or like this one https://youtu.be/kRSuSNliCHc

I don’t know which type of path to use

[real nebula]

do one level speedruns don't speedrun episodes

[golden stream]

Oh why not

[real nebula]

it's very difficult to speedrun an episode, you have to master each level individually

after that you can start speedrunning episodes

even a 9 second speedrun like e1m1 can take weeks of practice

[golden stream]

Hm ok I’ve been trying to gradually master level by level but I’ll try harder

Also any tips on what routes I should use if I’m on switch

Since you can’t really strafe

[stiff turret]

you can take normal routes

[golden stream]

Is there a route page or video or do I just look at the record runs

[real nebula]

look at the world record runs

since you're on switch you should look at the speedrun.com runs

make sure to browse "Doom (Unity Ports)" not Doom

[stiff turret]

look at record runs

[golden stream]

Ok got it

Thx

[stiff turret]

...

WHY
WHY DID I NOT DEMO RECORD

arghhghhh

[real nebula]

[vapid cloud]

👀

17s?

Damn thats impressive

[stiff turret]

NoMo obviously, otherwise I'd be 3rd on the leaderboard which is unfeasible for a rookie like me

The only top 3 I can do is TNT Map22 Habitat for an 18.83 I think or 18.86
I already have the demo but I don't think it's worth submitting

[golden stream]

Habitat is such a strange map, thankfully it takes less than 20s to complete

[stiff turret]

yeah

[golden stream]

How do you beat the weird boss guy in episode 2 level 3 or 4

[stiff turret]

show a picture?

[golden stream]

That guy

You can just use rockets or plasma.

Plasma's more effective but it's pretty easy to kill with rockets as well

[golden stream]

I tried but he didn’t want to die it seems, is 64 rockets enough?

[stiff turret]

definitely

you have to hit all of them

he does not take splash damage from rockets

[golden stream]

Oh i see, because I was kinda dodging around so I didn’t get hit by his rockets

Which means they weren’t as accurate

[sterile rampart]

circle strafing my guy

[golden stream]

Also where can I find all secrets runs? Cuz I kinda wanna find all the secrets

[rose silo]

You need about 45 direct hits since he doesn’t take splash damage

or plasma if you have some

I remember pistoling him once lmao

[golden stream]

Dayum

[golden stream]

Does the bfg work on him?

[vapid cloud]

Yep

To maximize the damage go give him a hug

Watch decino’s video to understand how

[golden stream]

Do you know where the third secret area is in e1m1?

There’s the secret door, the move downy platform thing that moves down at a certain point, and then one more I don’t know where

Nvm I found it, they really put a secret area inside a secret area bruh

[golden stream]

How do you get in the secret area here

[frank anvil]

Shoot it, I think

[rose silo]

yes with good tracer shots you can two shot him

[golden stream]

Dang

[golden stream]

Yup I forgot, thanks

[rose silo]

Which map is that one again

[golden stream]

Fairly sure that’s E1M2.

[golden stream]

Yeah I got it, thanks though

[golden stream]

Does anyone know to get past this part in doom eternal?

Sorry for the wrong channel, it’s just that nobody was active in the eternal speedrunning chat

Nvm

I’m sorry someone just replied in the other chat

Sorry for taking peoples time

I'd suggest looking up a tutorial instead of asking in doom channels (I don't mind you asking), as they tend to explain in more detail and you'd get a response quicker.

Ok, thanks for the tip, I’ll try that, I’m just wary about having to sit through tens of minutes waiting for the part I need, and if I skip around, I’ll miss that part

[golden stream]

Yo can anyone send me a link to that one textwall by that one guy responding to zero master when him and looper brought forth proof of him cheating in iron man category, the one that goes like ‘you humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt’ or something like that , because I want to see it again because it perfectly embodies the stock esque text that seems like is generated from like some ‘cheater response software’

If you can find it that would be awesome lol

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105355-the-dwironman-league-dies-to-base-ganymede/?page=5&tab=comments#comment-1984170

[golden stream]

Lmao Tysm, that took like 6 minutes to read but it’s still funny how many times he contradicted himself and did the opposite of what he said, like he said he didn’t care what anyone thought, yet he proceeded to write an hours worth of text, and he also was praising himself so much, but he also said he was just playing for fun, like the entire post is all over the place lol

[golden stream]

Yeah, but I can't help but feel bad for people who used savestates / pre-recording runs, because they obviously have the skills necessary, but they threw their whole speedrunning career away because they resorted to cheats. I'm in no way endorsing cheats, but it always sucks to see a good player leave that way. Bloodite's message was pretty funny though lol, very good copypasta

[golden stream]

Yeah

[golden stream]

Uhm guys I just realized, the doom timeline starts in 2022 around late march-early April, so what if doom predicted the future and the military accidentally opens a portal to hell in a couple days

Also finding the Wolfenstein cd ‘wondering about my loved ones’ is cool and all, but then you realize that there is a bunny on the album cover and also the only reason doom guy did any of this was to avenge his pet bunny Daisy who was murdered by the demons back in 2022

There that’s better i spoilered the image, just cuz it’s kinda graphic, but it’s in the doom series what did you expect lol

[stiff turret]

That's been debunked

[golden stream]

Lol ik I’m joking

[golden stream]

Is there a doom memes channel?

[hoary stump]

[golden stream]

Lol how long have you been waiting to do that, also ok, Should I leave the server?

[real nebula]

No iam just joking

[thorn cape]

dam I want to die 🙂

I've been doing plutonia NMS d2all attempts when I can, which is when I can stream. Been getting better at ep1, getting to the end of it consistently, but ATM I'm not able to grind it that much

In the meantime, I've picked up doom II 01 NoMo 🙂

goal is 4s 🙂

[stiff turret]

confused don't fall back to your e1m1 8 habits

[golden stream]

What did I do

[thorn cape]

who says I directed that at you :^)

[golden stream]

speedrun t h e hardest DOOM II mod

[potent holly]

hideous destructor

what are some other hard wads

[vapid cloud]

Confused probably gonna do Italo NM100s next

[thorn cape]

5.06 on lv01

[thorn cape]

Got a 5.03 yesterday night

I was essentially half asleep when I got it 😂

[golden stream]

Hmm it won’t let me convert it

[stiff turret]

Convert to what?

[golden stream]

At all

To files

A video

Convert it to a video which is what I assume it is

[ancient burrow]

Thats a demo file. Basically just instructions to play back his gameplay in engine.
You cant convert it to a video file

[stiff turret]

It's not a video lol

It's a demo file

You gotta play it in a sourceport

[golden stream]

Oh yeah, I don’t have a sourceport that’s why I’m dumb when it comes to demos

Can someone send me some links to old speedrunning forums for doom, I’m thinking of making a video of the evoulution of speed runs/strategies but I literally cannot find any forums from the mid 90s-late 2000s for some reason lol

So if anyone could send me some that would be greatly appreciated

[ancient burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqbc4nTivlg

[golden stream]

Oh did he have the sources of the old forums for doom 1 and 2 on there?

[golden stream]

I can’t find the sources

[harsh crag]

RTX ON CACO DEMON

[golden stream]

Wait that’s just the cacodemon model for doom 2030

[harsh crag]

your rigth :D

[flat falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-cat-cute-kitty-begging-gif-11691445

[golden stream]

The Marauders wolf in mighty doom be like

Leaked image of pinky’s in next doom release

[flat falcon]

XD

[flat falcon]

cute why is it called pinky it sound cute but it wants to kill you

[ancient burrow]

Romance Mode incoming?

[golden stream]

Hmm

[thorn cape]

going for the door boost on doom II map01 NoMo in 4s

honestly FUCK getting 4 without it
I could do it but I've realized the door boost should just be easier

random, but 3.97/3.94 door is just so much harder than 4.00

managing a 1.00 on such a run too :bobbed:

[stiff turret]

this is your fifth time saying "fuck" on this server 👀
yikes entryway 4 got you really pissed off

[golden stream]

When was doom first beaten on nightmare mode?

Just the first episode

[potent holly]

check out dsda i guess

i'd try and find the first complete nightmare run of doom e1 but i have a test
i'll do it later if somebody here hasn't done it yet

[golden stream]

Also is there a doom 2 level 26 UV pacifist TAS yet? Cuz I can’t remember if someone made it into a TAS yet

[golden stream]

Ok thank you, gl on the test

[potent holly]

thx

[stiff turret]

there's someone who did it pacifist without tools, and he remains the only one on the leaderboard, Xit Vono

[thorn cape]

not sure about when the first doom was completed on NM, but the last level to be done was e4m6

[potent holly]

ok so i failed the test
but now i'm going to browse dsda

[golden stream]

Aw that sucks **:( **

[golden stream]

I just calculated that the theoretical longest time you could be in the portal before you die at the end of e1m8 is 1 min 10 sec
Because if you have 200 armor, 200 health, and invulnerability for 30 seconds and kill all the monsters before the invulnerability runs out, you would automatically have 30 seconds in there because invulnerability, and then, because you have the mega armor, you and your armor will both take damage at the rate of 5 damage per second. Which means that you would able to last 40 seconds on top of that before you die, so the theoretic max with just using 1 invulnerability would be around 1 min 10 sec. (It actually is probably lower cuz I think the rate of damage might be a bit under a second but yeah) if anyone has any other ideas on how to elongate the time, tell me

[dense vapor]

Calculating man. Respect :)

[stiff turret]

yeah but you don't have invul in E1M8
never mind I'm just stupid, this is theoretical assumption

[golden stream]

Thx

[thorn cape]

lv01o door boost PB: 5.06

[golden stream]

Let’s gooo

[golden stream]

I was there I’m pretty sure

[thorn cape]

yeah think you were :^)

[golden stream]

Yay

[thorn cape]

I also died in pl12 of plutonia nm100s d2all for the millionth time 🙃

this map is dangerous

[golden stream]

Yeah did you take me the wrong way and think I was making fun of you for dying?

[thorn cape]

nah lol

what did you say? don't even remember

[golden stream]

Just making sure you didn’t, I can’t remember what I was doing, my internet was laggy so I think I said a message that you guys saw after you died even tho you hadn’t died yet from my end

And it fell in the wrong Context

[thorn cape]

oh lol I don't think any reasonable person would have thought you were saying anything bad about them

don't overthink it

[golden stream]

Ok I’ll try not to next time lol

Also btw it would probably take about 347 punches to kill a cyber demon, tho for me it seemed like it took 591 punches tho

[thorn cape]

with no berserk it will take 400 on avg

[golden stream]

Yeah makes sense

[golden stream]

I have a question, would it be technically possible to telafrag a cyberdemon to gib it? Because I think it’s possible, but are there any videos of it happening? Cuz that would be cool af

[stiff turret]

cyberdemons don't have gib graphics

[golden stream]

I thought they did for some reason

Cuz like, pinkies do

Also btw have you ever tried doom cheat codes in heretic

I just did for some reason

I should’ve known I’d software was gonna troll me bruhhh

[golden stream]

Slight correction, it would actually be 1 minute and 6 seconds because the rate is every .9 seconds, not one second

[stiff turret]

pinkies don't have them either

only zombiemen, shotgun guys, imps, chaingunners, wolfenstein SS, and the player have gib graphics

[stiff turret]

also Heretic was made by Raven Software, not iD Software

also, none of this is related to speedrunning, why are we talking here?

[golden stream]

It’s related to classic doom tho

[stiff turret]

But not about speedrunning

We have a #classic-doom channel

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/eVkzPhI0FWA

[somber wasp]

A compilation of all maps NoMo I recorded in BtSX1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XpwFGUkSAE

[stiff turret]

niceeee

[thorn cape]

i hate myself

[potent holly]

what wad

[thorn cape]

doom II map01 NoMo

[potent holly]

ty

[golden stream]

Can anyone give me some tips on how I can get a lower time on e1m2? I can’t really strafe sense I’m playing in switch, so are there any other tips on how I can get 27 seconds and under consistently?

[potent holly]

plug in a keyboard

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/841657937767825448.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[golden stream]

And also just for any e1 maps in doom 1, cuz I I feel like I can improve my times even without strafing

Like it’s annoying how my best time for e1m1 is like 12.07 because my movement isn’t as optimal as it could be

So does anyone have any tips or videos on e1 tips? If so that would be much appreciated

[real nebula]

speedrunning doom is very straight forward, just keep practicing and trying is the best advice I got

[golden stream]

Hmm okay ill try to just keep optimizing then

[potent holly]

sr50 is very helpful

[real nebula]

I don't think sr50 is possible on switch

[potent holly]

oh yeah

[golden stream]

Yeah not to my knowledge, there’s only one way to strafe and it just makes more sense to run normally

[potent holly]

imo it's best to only start straferunning when you've completely optimized your normal movement

[thorn cape]

lol no

just start practicing straferunning all the time

sr50 yeah that can wait sure

[stiff turret]

No, straferunning should be done 100% of the time, normal movement will just hinder it

[potent holly]

i see

i'll remember that, thanks!

[golden stream]

It’s hard to strafe run on switch tho

Idk if it’s even possible to sr50 on switch

[thorn cape]

ive gotten 6 5.03s on lv01o

[golden stream]

Wait is the end screen with daisies head on a pike at the end of e3 or e4

[potent holly]

e3
if i'm right

since e4 was made pretty further down the line

after doom 2

[mental carbon]

Nuts 2 Pacifist speedrun in 1:22.06 😄 https://youtu.be/hF3yx5Xvhag

[stiff turret]

nice

[primal forge]

E1M1 mobile Speedrun I did for fun

[thorn cape]

dnasjdnjo 4s is close im sure 🙂

i got another 5.03 today and 2 5.06s

i just need everything to come together in one run 🙃

[potent holly]

the file size scares me

[golden stream]

Does anyone have some e1m3 Tutorial videos for speedrunning, cuz I’m struggling on being efficient and getting good times and stuff I feel like

[mental carbon]

Download a record demo from doom speed demos archive of a record of E1M3, enable the command display on DSDA-Doom and observe the keys he presses in the demo

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/pHwOuuoLRz8

[thorn cape]

probably going to start a few plutonia nm100s attempts off stream now tbh

it's annoying but I can barely stream and I can do barely any attempts like this :/

[ionic quarry]

My SR40 is not in Ancalgon's league (he holds the WR). Could I get sub 2 minutes while taking No Damage in this hitscanner hell? https://youtu.be/ThsfypjXi14

[stiff turret]

Damn PJ another fine run

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/1KC5DPwJpEk

[ionic quarry]

Thanks Coffeeguy. It's important to enjoy playing for a PB as much as a WR (almost!).

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/NgHnz4DIHLQ

yes I'm still working on plutonia actively

doom II map01 NoMo is on the backburner now let's say OpieOP

[thorn cape]

favourite nomo of mine
https://youtu.be/-YK7piHHRW0

not like it was really hard, just really fun and looks nice

[sour linden]

nice

[opal coral]

Due to the lack of activity between three categories, we are condensing Doom speed running into a singular category.

[sour sage]

Yeah, doom 2016 speedrunning channel was completely dead

[lament venture]

Eternals wasn't much better, was basically the occasional actual update, mixed with people trying to get away with posting memes.

[stiff turret]

This is interesting

[real nebula]

Should probably merge #832190972515057684 and #classic-doom-maps-mods as well imo

[thorn cape]

new plutonia nm100s d2all pb: map31 death

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/ca0U2Wwmkyc

[stiff turret]

Ooh

[blissful bobcat]

A way to speed run khan maykr: Lock on rocket launcher shots for shield breaking, drones for ammo.

[lament venture]

Yeah, that's the typical way speedrunners do it. Technically the actual fastest would be to do crucible cancels, but it's annoying cause you have to time it right as the invulnerability goes away to make it actually worth it. Basically it's faster on paper, but in practice lock on is just 10x easier while only being slower by a few seconds.

[blissful bobcat]

Crucible cancels?

Also I found a good way to get blood punch from maykr drones: 1 sticky bomb shot then normal shot with combat shotgun

[lament venture]

Crucible canceling is when you swap crucible the moment it hits an enemy that does not have a crucible kill animation (eyeballs from kalibas, Khan Maykr, Doom Hunter sleds, icon of sin body parts).

The swing connects and does the damage it does (insta kill on all of them save for 2 of icons pieces), but it does not use a crucible charge.

https://youtu.be/DJdJ4eXmjq8

[sour sage]

The slash slinging slasher

[blissful bobcat]

Does it work well on Xbox? Cos I play doom on Xbox

[lament venture]

Yes, it works on Xbox... Did you try?

It might be easier if you swap with a specific weapon rather than trying to use weapon wheel for the swap if that's giving trouble.

Anything that works on current patch PC works for current patch on console as well. The only difference is FPS, so you need to be aware of that.

[blissful bobcat]

I haven’t tried I was just interested

[quasi tundra]

Yea, with crucible out press Fire, then Swap Asap

RT, RB

[crimson junco]

gawd dayum bro. fuckin future flash here we got @primal forge

[golden stream]

uh does any one got like doom eternal speedrun settings

[lament venture]

I have a video that might get you started. Typically nothing really matters aside from maximizing FPS, and binding Jump to either Scroll Wheel Up or Down.

Getting used to keybinds instead of weapon wheel is also a plus.

Note, the video is soooort of outdated, BUT most of what's presented in it are a great place to start. 🙂

https://youtu.be/dwwIzNP_MMY

[golden stream]

yeah ima try to uh get a fast time in hell on earth with zoom mod

[lament venture]

Here's the Any% Restricted leaderboards for Hell on Earth. Runs are a year old, so it probably doesn't have some of the newer stuff like the punch boost at the first Arachnotron fight.

https://www.speedrun.com/doom_eternal/level/Hell_on_Earth#Any_Restricted

[golden stream]

no i just messing around i wana see how fast i can go with a 3060

[lament venture]

Well if that's the case you probably want to find one of the typical yeethooks that people do and see how high FPS you can get. Either Doom Hunter Base's yeethook, Mars Core Drake n Bake, or maybe something fancy like any of the Urdak hooks or a DLC hook.

[golden stream]

i beat the game im useing that save

[lament venture]

Yeethooks (meathook as a whole, but in particular the weapon wheel/chrono versions) are the most notable thing FPS affects. Maybe bunny hops too, but those get "more consistent" rather than "better" if that makes sense.

[golden stream]

yeah they are fun

[golden stream]

oh yeah do you have the moding tools

[lament venture]

I use meath00k but if you're looking for actual mods and modding tools, #eternal-modding would have it, or the modding discord.

[golden stream]

oh yeah do the speed run mods like allow mods

[lament venture]

The rules are all on speedrun.com, but no you are not allowed to have any mods installed if you want to submit specifically to speedrun.com.

That said you're of course allowed to speedrun casually for yourself using whatever mods you want.

And theoretically if you run with mods as a sort of ruleset (something like not cutscenes for instance), it could always become an official category later.

[golden stream]

because i wana post my meme runs lol

also where do i post them

[lament venture]

...to... speedrun.com?

[golden stream]

no

[lament venture]

If the category you "want to run" doesn't exist, you can go to the discord (link is on the SRC page) and there's a 'misc' category

[potent holly]

you post your runs to speedrun.com

[lament venture]

^

I mean you can feel free to post anything casually here if you want. But if you want an actual leaderboard type thing, either you run one of the categories on speedrun.com's leaderboards, or you go to the Speedrun Discord's "Misc" channel and start talking about/showing off your run there

[golden stream]

how do i change the verson of doom eternal to 1.1

[lament venture]

In the Speedrun discord there's a downpatcher tool. It only works for the Steam version, but as long as you have that you can downpatch.

[south lark]

I recently noticed that made this a channel and not a category

[sour sage]

Nobody used any of the speedrunning channels when they were part of a category

[cedar thunder]

If you have some silly things you did in eternal. Like moments or a clip you can post it to imgur then post it here. Not sure if that's what he means

[formal canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOHsEQTcOcQ crushed colins wr by almost 10 minutes on another level

[golden stream]

is a rtx 3060 and ryzen 7 3700x good enough for doom eternal speedrunning

[potent holly]

as long as you get above 60 fps i think?

[golden stream]

ok

[lament venture]

Definitely. I run a 1080 and can usually get around 120 on lower settings. The rules for Speedrun.com submissions say you have to cap to 250 to prevent people from ridiculous rigs from getting TOO much of an edge, but typically if you can hit 150+ you're definitely good for all categories. If you hit 250 consistently you're definitely good

[vapid cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzuJCMV4sK8

New WR TAS

[golden stream]

fuck 290 how do i lower

[lament venture]

Nvidia has some inate ability to do so, or Rivatuner allows it

[formal canopy]

damn that within reach level. all i need is the arch vile to spawn in the correct place and i can beat decinos challenge of UV co-op (ive added fast enemies cause unity) with no bfg on that red trap key room. im soo close and with controller

[last spade]

idk if this fits into speedrunning, but its more of a challenge thing so i thought id give it a shot, ive been trying master playing doom eternal with a controller, but after playing on pc forever its hard to get used to because its suboptimal, but ive been seeing videos of people doing it and it looked like a fresh challenge, does anyone have any reccomendations for optimal bindings on controller? the biggest challenge is not being able to press jump and aim at the same time, i would appreciate it if anyone had any pointers :) sorry if this is off topic for this section

[lament venture]

Honestly not a bad place to get advice. I'd trust @quasi tundra for controller/bind advice.

For me when I'd do stuff with controller, binding one of the shoulder buttons to jump made it possible to aim + jump.

I think my BIG rebinds, I did Left Stick for dashes, L1 for weapon wheel (so I could quick swap by just tapping that button), and R1 for jumps. Everything else was less important, just bound stuff to what i felt like or was comfortable.

[quasi tundra]

Yea bumper jumper is the way if you don't have a controller with paddles. I got Jump on left bumper and equipment launcher swapped to A

or X on playstation

[formal canopy]

i highly recommend experimenting with bumper jumper. its one of the popular control schemes in gaming for a good reason.

[last spade]

@quasi tundra @lament venture @formal canopy okay thanks, i did jump to L1, equipment to B, and dash L3 im new here and its nice seeing people so welcoming who will give you advice :))

[formal canopy]

decino said within reach co-op enemies red trap key room was impossible without bfg.. so i decided to add fast monster cause i have no choice on unity and played with normal controller layout... The fight is done.. I beat it.. no bfg, fast monsters, co-op enemies on UV. uploading soon.

worst part is. i did end up dying right at the end T_T but its doable. (end of the level i mean not end of the fight)

[formal canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yij52h8w5Y

now ill have to actually speedrun this level though prob using this strat a bit but returning to the fight faster with bfg to clean up. thankfully ill have bfg when i begin that process

[stiff turret]

holy shit congrats

[formal canopy]

thanks. im shocked it didnt take that many attempts to actually do. Though it was tough. Thankfully i learned a lot about managing the cacos on UV+ when i was just running through the whole campaign

[stiff turret]

I could see the chokes at the end, unfortunate :(

[formal canopy]

ya i was completely unsure what i should be doing with no cell ammo and such lol

really appreciate ya checking that out though man. cause it did take quite a bit of effort. So thank you very much

[golden stream]

I sped run doom 1993 in 30 minutes

[potent holly]

send demo

[sour sage]

What

[quasi tundra]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1461993222

bhops and punchboost off the spider set the pace

[potent holly]

It better of Zelda tbh ngl frfr

[native haven]

Have y’all try to speedrun doom 3

[thorn cape]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1464781867

nm100s

[stiff turret]

damn

[formal canopy]

tryin the rocket jump on arrivals secon level. shit feels impossible on controller at my skill level lol have not got it once on stream yet

was easier beating within reach on uv+ lol

[stiff turret]

You'll do it eventually

[formal canopy]

i honestly doubt that

its extremely tight it seems. like got to be perfect on execution

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/hRN7-XLoLEE

[golden stream]

Guys i wanna create doom 2 m32 uvspeed on speedrun.com how do i do that

Also can i post a demo instead of a video to submit a run?

Oh and where can i find categories like hangar speed etc.

[real nebula]

not a speedrunner, but I think those categories are on dsda and not speedrun.com

[golden stream]

Oh ok

[thick crescent]

speedrun.com has different rules and stuff from dsda

[coarse flax]

I can’t complete ANY level %100 in less than 10min 😔 (I know you said the whole game); part of it is wanting to listen to the map’s track more than once 😏

Does speedrunning entail being %100 (all secrets) on every level too? 🤔 If so, I would need a cheat/guide >_>;;

[real nebula]

It depends on the category, in UVSpeed (Any%) all you have to do is reach the exit (with ultraviolence difficulty), On UVMax you have to get 100% kills and 100% secrets (but not 100% items)

[coarse flax]

Aaah, gotcha; makes sense 🤔

[keen flume]

Helloo

Can I speedrun a cracked version of doom?

[potent holly]

wdym cracked

you got the wad illegally?

as long as it's doom and your source port is on vanilla compatibility level (and actually works like vanilla, unlike gzdoom)

[potent holly]

just don't tell anybody you got it illegally

[keen flume]

Not illegally my friend game it to me

Nvm so it's not cracked

But I've another problem

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947855199823872021/949251701636997140/unknown.png

I dunno what's wrong

Can anyone help me fix

[real nebula]

try a different source port

[keen flume]

It just keeps on crashing

[real nebula]

speedrunning doom is not allowed on GZDoom (unless you're speedrunning a GZDoom exclusive mapset)

if you want to speedrun download dsda-doom

if you don't want to speedrun try a different version of ZDoom like LZDoom

[sinful tulip]

How did your friend obtain the WAD? If you wanna play Doom with say mods but don’t wanna buy the game just get Freedoom

[potent holly]

i wonder

can you speedrun a pwad like valiant and submit it if your iwad is freedoom

[sinful tulip]

I mean maybe? I don’t see why Freedoom can’t be used.

[real nebula]

I don't see a reason not to

Freedoom only changes assets

[potent holly]

yep

[sinful tulip]

As long as it doesn’t change any core gameplay mechanics it’s all good right? At least for GZDoom exclusive maps of course.

[real nebula]

Yes I just tried playing back a demo

it's identical with freedoom and doom iwads

ofc as long as it's the same mapset

[thorn cape]

not allowed for demo submissions for dsda

sprite changes are not allowed generally

[potent holly]

ohhh

[thorn cape]

and calling freedom a sprite change is an understatement lol

[sinful tulip]

Why not? I’m not super knowledgeable on speedrunning but if it doesn’t change anything why are sprite changes not allowed?

[thorn cape]

I don't know, mostly all I do in doom is speedrun but I don't make the rules :^)
there are sometimes advantages of some sprite changes
but the thing is, it's easier to ban all sprite changes than ban a few

[sinful tulip]

Yea makes sense

[thorn cape]

sorry I can't English rn 🙂

[potent holly]

i think hitboxes are dependent on sprite size

but i might be very wrong

[real nebula]

Nah they are hard coded and can be changed only with dehacked

or whatever GZDoom uses nowadays

[thorn cape]

nope

what vulldozer said

[potent holly]

i see

thanks

[keen flume]

Ok I'll try zdoom

So which source port would y'all recommend?

[keen flume]

Whats freedoom?

[sinful tulip]

A version of Doom and Doom II that acts as an IWAD meaning you can use it for mods like Brutal Doom it’s not illegal since every texture and sprite has been changed pretty much if you wanna play mods but don’t have the original Doom and Doom II files Freedoom acts as a work around

[sinful tulip]

-GZDoom for modding (LZDoom if your computer isn’t the strongest)
-Crispy Doom for vanilla gameplay
-DSDA-Doom for speedrunning

Just whatever is interesting

[mental carbon]

Use DSDA-Doom for speedrunning, you can download it on doomworld

[ruby holly]

Can anyone dm me any glitches an doom eternal so I can use them for speed running

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/CduvPCcqt0g

good demo of one of my maps of d5da2 by a friend 🙂

[stiff turret]

nice

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJbsQ0euCDY

[lament venture]

MuteD6 got approved for GDQ this year running 100%!

https://discord.com/channels/@me/831258498473525250/970157167174885387

[obsidian heron]

Completed a modern doom god run on the 14th of april (DOOM 2016, DOOM Eternal, TAG1 and TAG2 all on speedrun on Ultra-Nightmare with 100% completion) the whole way through in one stream sitting! If you want to check out the VODs I've started a youtube channel and am uploading it... it's a big VOD so it's uploading in chunks 😅

Part 1 is up though! Check it out if you're interested 🤘

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_l681_pOXw

[ancient burrow]

Just because its not "cracked" doesnt mean its legal to share it with anyone. If you didnt pay for it, you obtained a illegal copy.

[formal idol]

Crop all that stuff out of your screenshots it's not safe

[golden stream]

Imagine if someone got under 8 secs in e1m1

[foggy dust]

That would be really wacky

Someone should make a TAS run with noclip and see how fast that is

[thorn cape]

that would also be impossible 🙂

[foggy dust]

What a shame

[potent holly]

hm?

does e1m1 break with noclip or something

[thorn cape]

I meant 7s

[potent holly]

oh i see

[foggy dust]

Ohh

I thought you meant recording demos with no clip

[potent holly]

i remember the record being somewhere near 7.98?

[thorn cape]

well you can't do that either

[foggy dust]

Its 8.97 s iirc

[potent holly]

that's already as optimized as humanly possible

[thorn cape]

but even if you could it would be useless as a human could get a similar time on noclip

Top 3 times are 8.97, 8.94, 8.91

[potent holly]

oh

ty

ngl they should make the cooldown here 5s

[thorn cape]

https://dsdarchive.com/wads/doom/leaderboard?category=Pacifist&level=E1M1

[vapid cloud]

The TAS wr for e1m1 is 7s (iirc), so it is possible, but the tricks that the TAS uses are not viable for humans
Maybe one day we will discover a way to do sr100 :P

[thorn cape]

yeah TAS is 7.74 uv and 7.80 nomo

[stiff turret]

human 7 is impossible :P
we're literally a whole second off and for a short(and absolutely garbage) speedrun like e1m1 that's beyond monumental

[golden stream]

I'm not good at doom

[hoary stump]

same

[ancient burrow]

And thats totally okay, as long as you have fun (Even on the lowest difficulty), thats all that matters :)

[keen flume]

I dont think it shows much stuff other than the tabs

[formal idol]

It's not safe

I'm a computer security manager and I'm dropping the truth bomb outside your zone of awareness

[vapid cloud]

Then you are not very good at your job

[real nebula]

Always crop your screenshot, I once accidentally leaked my address lol

[stiff turret]

I always crop my screenshots since it looks neater and not cropping can expose info

Trust me, you'd be surprised at how only a tiny sliver of info can suddenly reveal a lot

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_5xRB749E

[thorn cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirlrYi33aY

[vapid cloud]

👀

I thought the e1m1 grind was over

[thorn cape]

:^) I was bored of lv01o, and I've been kind of lethargic for the past few days so a run that needs endurance like plallns I've not been grinding right now

decided to get 8.8x on e1m1 and got this in the process 🙂

going to start doing more plall attempts, plep1 has just gotten more consistent which seems to be the driving factor of how long a full run will take :^)

I was never as consistent as JCD with ep1, although I think my ep2 and ep3 is pretty strong

[vapid cloud]

Plutonia runs are really fun to watch, so good luck!

[thorn cape]

thanks

plutonia best iwad yeah 🙂

my furthest death is map23

[thorn cape]

i got 8.89s REALITY just now

its on doomworld

upload soon

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/0lqXmdAxUq8

[vapid cloud]

Isnt the UV speed wr 8.91?

[thorn cape]

yes

[vapid cloud]

Yoooooo

[thorn cape]

not anymore 🙂

and it's fucking reality too

[vapid cloud]

Dude damn.
Congratulations thats amazing

[thorn cape]

thanks 🙂

[stiff turret]

confused, the only one to get an 8 on e1m1 thrice, and 1 of them reality + WR
you fucking god

[thorn cape]

5 times*

depr4vity has 30 8s, though, his reality grind was much more excruciating

[stiff turret]

even better ;-;

oh damn 30

jesus christ

[thorn cape]

I think he had 22 8.97s (one reality), 6 8.94s, 2 8.91s

I have 1 8.97, 3 8.94s (one reality), 1 8.89 (reality)

[stiff turret]

you think think anything below 8.89 is feasible?

[thorn cape]

definitely

but insanely hard

[stiff turret]

8.7 is a no though right

[thorn cape]

8.89 reality though, that's hard to see getting beaten by another reality 😄

8.7 is doable but you need literally perfect movement+perfect damage boost lol

with good damage boost this 8.89 is definitely 8.7, but then again, barely
I think theres another technique for the waste room that is like 10 times more luck based but occasionally gives a godly pace, but converting it would be... Something

But reality is fucking mad, it's really surprised me :^)

[real ferry]

Damn dude, congrats

[thorn cape]

thanks 🙂

[stiff turret]

<@&162901871168585728> really, really sorry for this ping but we got what seems to be a spam account here

[rapid shadow]

Thx

[stiff turret]

Thanks bob

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/r7ortc88cL4

[thorn cape]

well am doing e1m1 NM-speed in 8s now too 🙂

then maybe I'm finally done with the map, unless I return for an 8.6 NoMo run 🙂

I got a 9.00 NM-speed 2day so it's close :^)

it's basically UV but the movement needed is cut in half and the luck needed is doubled :p

I'm surprised no one has done it yet, I guess it was thought to be not doable for a bit but no one has really tried it :^)

but yeah, dying on an 8 pace near the end is stupid fucking common, but a 6.2X second door or so isn't too bad to get I guess

[stiff turret]

confused did E1M1 give you stockholm syndrome I'm concerned

[dawn wave]

Hey I found a glitch that can make you fly I literally skipped an entire like our game play but really going over this giant fence to reach the button without having to go through and meet the giant demon with flameth s I do not know how to spell its name

Also I have no idea how I did it

[potent holly]

what

if you're referring to classic doom and used gzdoom to jump, that's not a glitch

[vapid cloud]

A glitch that can make you fly?

[potent holly]

oh nvm i read it wrong

[thorn cape]

well UV was kinda a chill grind nowadays :^) not that I expected 8.8 reality, I only wanted 8.8 lol

NM-speed pisses me the fuck off the though

most 8 paces fail due to shit imp placement/death, I've only had 3 potential 8s out of the probably 30 or so 6.2 2nd doors in which I messed up 🤨

[lament venture]

If it's Eternal they're referring to, there's a few different glitches they could be talking about. From the sound of it though, it sounds like a yesclip on Cultist Base. Let's you unironically "fly" to the end of the level and push the button, though it's rather slow movement when flying this way.

[thorn cape]

got 8.91 on e1m1 nm-speed

YT upload coming

[thorn cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNGZ0dD4naw

[vapid cloud]

I forgot that this channel is for speedrunning any Doom game, not just 93. That makes more sense

[vapid cloud]

Did you discover a way to do sr60 or what? That's so fast

Congratulations!

[thorn cape]

thanks 😄

[golden stream]

well played, have you considered slowing down slightly right before hitting a gate to avoid getting bounced back slightly? it would be hard to pull off consistently but if done right, you could save precious time maybe

[thorn cape]

slowing down is a lot slower than not getting bounced back like that, doubt that loses more than a frame too tbh

sometimes that happens and sometimes it doesn't, it's a really tight turn 😄

oh sorry, do you mean the doors?

crashing into the doors is fine, but this demo just had bad doors in general (I think I lost 1 frame on every door which is really fucking dumb)

The redeeming factor of this run was an insane central room

I'm not too bothered though, it's some shit RNG needed and first 8s anyway

the doors of my UV in 8.89 run are a lot cleaner :^)

[golden stream]

oh alright

[analog jay]

[wraith hazel]

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/1VRyTaPvf0Q

tried heretic 🤨

[stiff turret]

👀

[vapid cloud]

Nice

We need more heretic and hexen speedruns

[mental carbon]

heretic level design is great

[stuck sandal]

Never played it but i heard its fun

[obtuse jackal]

Hi @bronze jetty

[flat falcon]

😐

[muted fjord]

I take it Eternal is still extremely breakable on high fps

[lament venture]

Not very, especially after so many updates. Back in version 1.0, you could do slope boosting (i.e. "super jumps off of ramps"), but that got patched very fast.

Currently higher FPS can give you faster Meathook speeds, and a little bit more consistent bunny hops and a few other things, but higher FPS only really enables 1 or 2 skips. Every skip can be done at 30 fps, albeit some are a bit slower since you don't have AS high of a speed as 120+ fps, etc.

Also for the purposes of speedrun.com, there's a rule the runners have agreed to where you have to cap your FPS to 250 , simply to prevent huge benefits from getting higher grade PC parts. Though admittedly, even getting consistent 250 is hard unless you have a good GPU let alone any higher than 250

On earlier patches (I'm talking TAG1 fixed this issue on release), higher FPS caused enemy AI to behave irregularly, either by shooting or aiming faster, or lunging farther at the player. So a lot of players would cap to 60 fps if they were doing hard content and weren't speedrunning. And going below 29 fps causes you to be able to infinitely dash in midair, which is neat.

[eternal holly]

When I try to do the weapon wheel dash thing it doesn’t work for me- like at all, any tips pointers? (Ping me pls)

[cobalt quartz]

What is a decent time for a knee-deep in the Dead speedrun? Like 6:45 after finishing E1M8?

[thorn cape]

depends what you'd define a decent time as :p

I mean, just go as fast as you can and see what times come up

should focus on improving your own times then thinking about what's a "good" time rn

once you play it enough you'll know what your goal will be

[muted fjord]

How much FPS do you get on average, you need 180+ or higher

[eternal holly]

Ah- I’m on console and idk how to adjust any of the fps things- so I would assume 60?

[quasi tundra]

Which console? If it ain't PS5, Xbox Series X/S you're on 60 fps.

New gen consoles can choose between 60 & 120 fps in video settings

[lament venture]

What weapon wheel dash thing?

If you mean the thing Any% does to go high in the air, they're not dashing, they're spamming jump with mouse wheel bound to jump.

[golden stream]

Can you even do that on console?

[potent holly]

maybe you can click the jump button really fast

[muted fjord]

you bind it to the mwheel down or up

[lament venture]

Eeeh probably not. Even disregarding the fact that you'd need to be on a release version of the game, like Psionic said you'd have to press jump very fast. At best maybe you could get a controller where you could bind it or auto fire it or something, but while you might get a decent jump height compared to a normal jump, it probably wouldn't go anywhere near required for Any% skips.

[golden stream]

Ah alright. Makes sense. I play on Switch Lite, so I wont be able to do like anything lmao

[potent holly]

yeah but console

[quasi tundra]

you can spam jump inputs as fast as you can press something (i got jump binded to left bumper for example and do it in certain parts), but i doubt you can get the type of input speed needed for those skips like BloodShot said

[potent holly]

attach a jackhammer to your shoulder button

[tawny harbor]

What is the fastest possible time on console

[real nebula]

Depends on what console and what doom game you're talking about

[tawny harbor]

Doom 3 on xbox

Forgot to include that part

[real nebula]

Speedrun.com is only showing me the PC records for some reason

So idk sorry

[tawny harbor]

Hmm interesting

Is stopping to kill every single Npc considered a time save

[lament venture]

If you go to Speedrun.com and check leaderboards you can probably find a link to a discord for speedrunning Doom 3. They probably have a lot of resources and guides about best strats.

[eternal holly]

I got an X/S

[quasi tundra]

under video settings you can change graphics mode to 120 FPS

[eternal holly]

In the game setting or system settings?

[eternal holly]

^

[quasi tundra]

oh well first you have to adjust Hz in consoles video settings so the option becomes available in the game

that is if u have a 120Hz monitor/tv & HDMI cables that have 120+ Hz passthrough

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/VRUKiXH-6XU
@vapid cloud @stiff turret you'll like this one :p

[stiff turret]

damnn

holy shit the movement almost looks like a TAS

[vapid cloud]

Damn what a fast button press

[olive sun]

anytips on speedrunning doom eterna;

eternal*

[lament venture]

If you're not already, you should join the Speedrun discord.

I'd recommend playing the game on your own a few times, and seeing what things you can find on your own/improve. Then start watching runs and learning what players skip and how they skip.

If you just see what players are doing first, you won't get an appreciation/understanding of what they're skipping and how much time the skips save, etc. Work your way up and such.

[eternal holly]

Ah, aight thanks

[olive sun]

thank you where can i find the speedrun discord

[lament venture]

If you check speedrun.com's leaderboards, there should be a link to the discord there.

[quasi tundra]

https://twitter.com/MMAFRoO/status/1528178340632444930

Gleb Tokarev (@MMAFRoO)

classic PB

Twitter · May 22, 2022, 12:58 AM

Doom Eternal 100% on ITYTD in 2:08:49 on xbox

[olive finch]

Sheesh bro that’s cool

My fastest is like 14 hours

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5uR5Kvbjls Current Patch Speedrun strats vs The Gladiator in the description.

[stuck sandal]

what the fuck man

[shut hedge]

How is that even possible?

Oh lord

[ripe trout]

[mighty cedar]

What is the speed run for hell on earth

[lament venture]

Check the leaderboards. There's a section for individual levels.

https://www.speedrun.com/doom_eternal/level/Hell_on_Earth#Any_Restricted

Unrestricted best time is about 3:44, though I think that doesn't use the new punch boost or any other new tricks so I imagine it can be pushed further.

[mighty cedar]

I should either be in 9th

I beat it in 5 minutes

[lament venture]

Submit it to the site then. Just make sure it follows the rules (no mods installed, fps shown [unless console], etc)

[mighty cedar]

I’m on console and I did it with no mods

[patent lava]

hi

[winged flame]

i can do that but only if i have better pc 😢

[golden stream]

5 minutes? that's crazy

im assuming you did it with all guns unlocked through mission select

the best console run I've seen in a whole new campaign was around 6 mins and a half

[lament venture]

Typically for No Major Glitch/Restricted runs, players get to the final portal before 6 minutes, though I think the best time right now is around a 5 minutes hell on Earth for new game.

So I think an individual level run could probably break 5 minutes easily nowadays.

[potent holly]

what's the fastest rootpain run

[buoyant kiln]

I dont know

[potent holly]

i'd check DSDA but my wifi isn't cooperating

[buoyant kiln]

Fastest speedrun is not playing

[pearl basin]

how do you consistently pull off the weapon wheel meathook fling

[quasi tundra]

Yeethook? Connect hook to a demon and immediately pull up weapon wheel then hold movement either left or right to start swinging

[pearl basin]

oh ok

@quasi tundra at what point should i disconnect the meathook, or how should i disconnect the meathook

[quasi tundra]

by either letting go of wheel or selecting weapon on the wheel, using weapon swap to break hook

[pearl basin]

k thanks

[ionic quarry]

In the field of No Damage speedrunning, I'm taking on some longer challenges. Overmind's 16:48 record from 2021 was in my sights --- by how much did I beat that time? https://youtu.be/ZdjBmD3yfHM

[mental carbon]

E4M3 nomonsters world record 🙂 https://youtu.be/KqKJxSwW2_4

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/UH5QdKldEHw

[glacial pine]

highest score i got on nightmare mode for original first level was 13sec

[golden stream]

man E1M1 is easy to cheese

[mental carbon]

The doom community found a really cool trick :D! zero master found this route https://youtu.be/9rhc6t3TqHA

[vapid cloud]

How is that possible?

[vapid cloud]

Oh its the all ghosts bug

Pretty cool to see it being used for speedrunning

[amber moat]

This is a thing????

[potent holly]

yeah

[amber moat]

helll yeah i wanna do this now

[ancient burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASm42DNN4ds

[lament venture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAG8flfzxpc

[golden stream]

nice

[untold herald]

looks legit

[untold herald]

is it possible to do this with map 30

[potent holly]

iirc about 18 minutes on ultra-violence

17:29 by looper

[thorn cape]

No monsters? Yeah the Romero head is still there and monsters are still spawned

[quasi tundra]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1499077015

[fluid dew]

Impressive speed my man

[feral flame]

6:38!? im not a speedrunner but i have seen a few, and GODDAMN!!!

[quasi tundra]

[quasi tundra]

the newest best on PC is 5:57 by xamide, this is xbox btw

[feral flame]

HOLY SHIT! THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKIN FAST IN MY STANDARDS!

[buoyant kernel]

ZeroMaster on YouTube has some really Ultra-Fast Speedruns on his channel...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwRmK7ZGUis&t=14s

[lament venture]

That's definitely not that fast nowadays. World Record for Ultra Nightmare 100% is sub hour. Even MMAFRO on Xbox, i.e. current patch, with controller, I believe has a 2:13:00 time (no offense MMA I legit think you're ridiculously fast).

Actually correction, world record.is sub 1:50:00. I think honestly, sub 2 hour is free for players who are decent at 100% runs

It's not inherently free, obviously, but even when Xiae was grinding 2 years ago out for sub 2 hours, 2:30:00 was a slow time for PC

If you want to check the best 100% runs nowadays, it'd be AbsoluteMassive who has WR, Xamide who's catching up, along with MuteD6 who is both catching up AND performing at GDQ in a few weeks. Plus, MMAFRO who does Xbox runs and still is able to compete with PC Players cause he's that good

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJbsQ0euCDY&t=2797s 2:13:55 on UN

sub 2:10 soon

tbf that Zeromaster run is from around launch time of the game

[lament venture]

I checked SRC and didn't see this one, but I did think I initially you had a 2:10.

Was this not submitted or are mods (read: me) just slow at verifying LOL

[quasi tundra]

haven't submitted it no, waiting for another PB and 2. maybe something changes with console timing (not fan of RTA 😦 )

[lament venture]

Agreed with you on RTA. :T

[golden stream]

Not doom, but Im super happy. I just tied the WR in individual level and then in another took the WR on Duke nukem 3d anniversary.

[lament venture]

Yooo congrats, that's hype!

[golden stream]

I’d post the vid here but I think it’ll get taken down but still, super pumped abt it!

[burnt sky]

Got a time of 0 seconds

[golden stream]

Woah

[lament venture]

Too bad Undeceiver has you beat.

https://youtu.be/rOY2Zg78_YA

[potent holly]

lmfao

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgyRykH8tiI

finally sub 9....14 sec gold

[solid wing]

ok

seems to be going well

[opal coral]

that the best you can do

[quasi tundra]

well it could be low 8:40s but not much lower tbh

[opal coral]

Oh sorry! That wasn’t directed at you. Had some guy trying to speedrun ban earlier and I left my message up hoping they’d bite

[quasi tundra]

LOL

[opal coral]

usually they come in shortly after and I just sort of forgot

Really impressive run though!

[lament venture]

A likely excuse

[opal coral]

[agile ocean]

prob

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/yEA0ae4Ni8M

[velvet sequoia]

First entry UV MAX, still need to trim down the time a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw9TIcYTKa4

[jolly vigil]

nice speedrun you could try nightmare if you want it seems that you could do it

[potent holly]

i think they can do nightmare, but nightmare speedruns are very different from uv max speedruns

[velvet sequoia]

Maybe in the future, first i want to improve my time on this episode

[jolly vigil]

you can practice aim so you do not miss at all etc. only once or twice

[golden stream]

Anyone know how to get into doom speedrunning?

[jagged temple]

Start by trying to beat par times and go from there

[lament venture]

Check speedrun.com, usually the leaderboards have an associated discord for the games. Not sure about classic Doom specifically though

I usually tell people to start speedrunning casually before deep diving into watching vids and skips, simply because you won't necessarily know or understand how much time a skip saves if you don't know generally how long the run would take normally.

[velvet sequoia]

Which doom? Use livesplit to keep track of your splits.

[lament venture]

For everyone who missed Mute's GDQ run, here's the vod!

https://youtu.be/T_Ui0Sk1DAM

[thick siren]

Can someone help me bind scroll wheel down to jump. I tried binding it with a console and tried many codes but it didin't work, I even tried downloading x-mouse but don't understand how it works. Please help me.

[stuck sandal]

This is a channel for speedrunning

[thick siren]

bhop is a part of speed run

plays a major role

[lament venture]

The command for it should be:

bind mwheeldown _jump

Or mwheelup

[young monolith]

Anyone use the overdrive cheat disk to speedrun DOOM Eternal?

[plain mica]

Nemluv pičo

[lament venture]

There are a few individual level runs like that on the leaderboards. I believe Visconic was running them for awhile

[bright hound]

New idea, a pacifist speed run. Bosses excluded from this pacifism because they are mandatory.

[lament venture]

You can always try and Speedrun that. Depending on the game though, may not necessarily be possible.

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/EZzB4l1VPeE
glides fun 🙂

[velvet sequoia]

https://youtu.be/e0G8a_QuL8k

[keen kraken]

So im watching a speed run video for doom 2016 UAC

where you can glitch it to finish the level in sub 20 seconds by skipping the entire level

Anyone got a video on how to do it?
https://youtu.be/yXPpsDRi2Pg

[tough tide]

yo guys does anyone got some tips for speedrunning

[lament venture]

If youre just getting started, do one or two speedruns without looking at other runs. Once you sort of get the typical casual route, then start looking at strats, other runs, etc. Knowing exactly what a skip actually skips helps to understand why it's done, etc.

Honestly when just starting out, it'll be a lot of practice and then looking up stuff and then practice and the looking up stuff, etc. Eventually things will start clicking.

[tough tide]

alr thx!

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/eAKsjP6rU8c 20 year old record beaten!

[polar yew]

How would one speedrun doom enternal?

[willow void]

Scroll wheel

[lament venture]

Actually scroll wheels aren't really needed. Not only are they not really that useful for categories outside of Any%, but there's an official Macro that on the speedrun discord that allows players without free scroll mice to get high jump inputs.

Obviously this is so players don't need to purchase new mice just to run one category

[lament venture]

I usually advise people to just start runningg casually once or twice, and then from there start looking at runs/learning strats. If you haven't already, I'd suggest going to the speedrun discord (link is on the speedrun.com page)

[polar yew]

Alright thanks

[pastel dome]

how

[lament venture]

I imagine the video shows it

[potent holly]

i think they mean "how are you so good"

[lament venture]

I think is usually used to denote sarcasm

[potent holly]

oh sorry

i don't know my twitch emotes very well lol

[lament venture]

You're all good.

I guess it would look a bit more rude without knowing it was sarcastic. XD

[granite light]

my record is 3245 hours

[restive temple]

My record is 666 hours

[mint light]

my record 768 hrs

[golden stream]

my record is 1 hour

[ionic quarry]

Scythe's Map 16 'Burial Grounds' for UV Max + Reality + Items. Over 800 attempts. A fictional live stream, for even more drama. This video has it all! https://youtu.be/kLmswSLeVrM

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeadRdw9QqE

[lament venture]

BAHAHA ok apparently i can't use that gif. Anyways good job MMA

[quasi tundra]

lol what gif was it

[lament venture]

"My pen _ is can only get so erect"

[quasi tundra]

🇩

[pearl wraith]

Are you even human @quasi tundra?

That is insane

[lament venture]

Something neat

https://youtu.be/izrjz7TglKU

[lament venture]

DrakePhose is working on a "basics" tutorial series.

https://youtu.be/IjNF2WHz1Bw

[quasi tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBAZcErkXxs

[golden stream]

Wow

Thats 6x faster on how fast i beat the game on easiest difficulty

[velvet sequoia]

https://youtu.be/NXpbykrHl6c

[mental carbon]

https://youtu.be/njeSgFSg5Rw yay