doom-2016

[snow heron]

Reboot sequel like Gougaru said. Though they could go both ways and it work considering how little lore and world building Quake 1 has.

We already have the devs now just gotta wait

[dull siren]

Sup!

I'm doing a UN run and I'm going into Lazarus Labs where the Cyberdemon is

i'm terrified

i'm not mentally prepared to do this today lmao although I beat cyberdemon first try on nightmare

I was already pretty nervous at the end of the previous one

[elder meadow]

Make it happen Jesus

[atomic gorge]

100% 2016 now (excluding multiplayer achievements and UN)

all collectibles, all runes upgraded, all mods mastered, all secrets, all challenges, all suit upgrades, all argent upgrades, etc

[wraith tangle]

did you find the secret wolfenstein level

[atomic gorge]

I did find all the classic maps if thats one of them

[viral mirage]

Ok

[elder meadow]

We’re all counting on you

[runic solstice]

How long did this take

[atomic gorge]

I started a fwe days ago

it was done on itytd as well

maybe someday ill do that on a harder difficulty, but not anytime soon

itll be a long time before I do that again anyway, that was painful

grinding out upgrades and masteries really takes a lot of the fun out

its a lot better in eternal

[runic solstice]

I will do my playthrough on hurt me plenty

Or wtv is the medium difficulty

[atomic gorge]

thats it

[runic solstice]

Ah

I have a playlist on youtube for every collectible and rune

I just gotta pray to God no glitches or anything annoying happens

[atomic gorge]

next im gonna start DE again, think im gonna start trying to ease myself into a higher difficulty, not nightmare yet, but ill try ultra violence probably

[runic solstice]

Ultra Nightmare UAC first mission is gonna be the last trophy I do fs

[halcyon bear]

You'll be fine

[runic solstice]

Yep

Hopefully someone in here has PS and is willing to play mp

[dull siren]

first mission is hard in UN but the second is awful

[runic solstice]

Lucky I only have to do first mission

For the trophy

[radiant crow]

desperately trying to get the last multiplayer trophy

its not fun

the queue was just me and one other guy and then he left 😔

[dull siren]

i can do multiplayer

not today tho

[runic solstice]

Which trophy?

Also are you on PS?

[radiant crow]

PC

and i just need a gold rating in a multiplayer match

ive been so close but im just not good enough at it lol

[runic solstice]

Lol for Playstation its so clutch

The trophies are only reach level 5 win a match and yaddi yada

[radiant crow]

ah thats nice

[dull siren]

I'm on PC

[runic solstice]

Dammit

So Dooms mp trophies gonna be annoying

[dull siren]

tbh my goal with this Doom is completing UN campaign and all slayer medals on UN in arcade

tho i got the rarest achievement with all the medals in arcade by accident xD

[runic solstice]

U guys know anyone in here who plays PS?

[halcyon bear]

Just join the 2016 console server

[runic solstice]

Smart idea

May you please refer me to it? Like send a link?

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/ZUsELRu

@runic solstice ^

[runic solstice]

Thanks bro

[runic solstice]

Guys I got a question about the “The Circle Is Complete” trophy

If lets say I turn my Playstation off during a mission and do the rune later while in the playthrough not using mission select will it still count?

Basically what im saying is if I save the game and come back to Doom from my break or something and complete the rune from the campaign will it save?

[dull siren]

Pretty sure it just checks if you have completed all runes in a playthrough

check for the symbol in top left corner to see if it's auto saving

[wooden coyote]

Has anyone else ever made a snapmap in 2016 doom?

I've asked so many people and I only got 2 yes's

[wraith tangle]

yeah it's fine

[winter stream]

I run a small community of snapmap authors. In fact we just ended a competition:
#d2016-modding message

[still lily]

yessss

still making them

[wooden coyote]

Nicee

[still lily]

#d2016-modding is basically the snapmap channel

[wooden coyote]

Thnx

[runic solstice]

Thx

[opal shale]

This Lazarus Labs?

[atomic gorge]

think so

it was where you fight the cyberdemon

[opal shale]

Generally, Stun Bomb was the precursor to Ice Bomb in DOOM Eternal. Similar functionality.

[opal shale]

Yup, that's it. The map was so large they had to have it load the second half when you go through an elevator.

[opal shale]

You can do it in about 30 to 45 minutes. That's pretty short as far as grinding goes in games today.

[dire sinew]

is this one dead

cause it the best

[lilac python]

is there any way to look at your collectibles

i just started playing about 3 days ago and there's a menu next to the map with "collectibles" on it but i don't know how to get to it

[ionic gorge]

Ye

[snow heron]

Multiplayers pretty much dead but there are still pretty good sizes of people who play it

[dull siren]

LET'S GO I BEAT UN

after finishing up arcade i'll be done with the game

i abused pretty much every trick in the game

i took 52 tries

would probably take way less if it weren't for the first 2 levels

[halcyon bear]

Well done man! Cheers 🔥

[dull siren]

85% of my runs ended before foundry

second level is just brutal

difficulty goes way down after foundry and only spikes at the hell levels and the last 2 levels

[halcyon bear]

I always say getting passed foundry and you're gold

[dull siren]

foundry is not that hard imo but yeah agree

you can get rocket immediately along with a mod

tho I like to go for scope assault rifle just for that level

[halcyon bear]

Tac scope is personally my favorite. And I'm pretty damn good at head shots

[past ocean]

I cant attach no videos? Thats sad

[snow heron]

#videos

[past ocean]

I mean i want to ask for a weird visual but meh

[wraith tangle]

yes. from main menu, click on your save and it'll be in one of the selectable items

[lilac python]

thank you

[untold ingot]

No wonder I can’t find anyone on switch

[runic solstice]

Switch is dead

Playstation I hope isnt

[brisk junco]

just got the doom franchise bundle on steam, loving 2016 so far, and 93 is so much better than the GBA version (that was my introduction to Doom lmao) just wondering, 2016's multiplayer seems pretty fun, and the customization seems great, do ppl lfg here for the multiplayer or nah? cuz the matchmaking is sadly pretty dead (tho i doubt I tried at peak hours)

[gleaming delta]

What the f*ck They are saturating my cell phone, can it be silenced here?

[runic solstice]

Yea ppl play here

[wanton crown]

I do the multiplayer sometimes, but eternal and 2016 but miss one thing in the multiplayer, that the other has already got.

[noble moat]

Some people do look for games here but no one bothers to scroll or find others

[untold ingot]

I really enjoy multiplayer sadly no one plays

[winter stream]

I just make and play snapmaps

[atomic horizon]

In the E3 2015 demo, when the demons drop health, you can see that the pickups were red in colour instead of current blue. Since the medikits were not seen, does that mean that they were red, too?

[fast oar]

Crashing a lot in multiplayer, any tips to prevent or solve this? Any help is welcome!

[queen musk]

I've had no luck getting into a multiplayer game on playstation

[lilac python]

MORBIUS

[terse arch]

Whart?

[civic dagger]

Around what time did you play?
Same for me but I just got lucky a few times

[fast oar]

Its hard, constant getting in the intermission loop is frustrating

[dull siren]

Alright I think i'm done with this game
#screenshots message

[still lily]

snapmap

[dull siren]

I've tried some maps it's neat but not my cup of tea

there are some master levels although not all

[winter stream]

I doubt you found any of the decent snapmaps tho

[dull siren]

i can imagine

i played the classic ones + time traveller

[winter stream]

It's hard for anything new to be visible because you can only filter for current month or all time and all time is crap because it's just whichever map was made during peak player counts

[still lily]

the ancient 5 year old ones yeah lmao. It's sad how they made new, top quality maps so hard to find. If i were to make 1 quick change to snapmap,it would be making a top maps of the year/month the front page. Instead of permanently cementing mid maps from 6 years ago.

Sorry but eye of horus is horrifically outdated now it hurts

[clever sparrow]

During 2016 I was trying to figure out why so many of my kills came from the combat shotgun and then I realized it’s because glory kills don’t count towards a weapon’s kill count, and zombies and imps die to a single shotgun blast

[halcyon bear]

You can rack them up from explosive also

[restive moat]

I just got back to mars from hell how much gameplay to I have left?

[halcyon bear]

A bit more than half

[restive moat]

sweet thank you this game is fucking beautiful too

[halcyon bear]

Fuck ya it is

[restive moat]

like I understand it's hell and mars so they're like these desolate waste lands but holy shit it sucks me in and I can't leave for like 7 hours

so good

[halcyon bear]

If I could erase my mind and experience it again for the first time I'd do it in a heartbeat

[inner sinew]

Yep it is

[inner sinew]

Same mate 😔

[restive moat]

I wouldn't only because going through it again it feels so much more nuance

[civic kelp]

doom 2016 was very mid (vr version)

[untold stirrup]

I mean yeah vr version very mid

Regular game tho very good

[north cove]

ive beaten doom 2016 2 times now and ive just resently gotten eternal, and im loving it, id and bethesda have done great once again

[north cove]

also, does anyone know how to access discord without pressing ctrl alt delete, i keep blowing myself up with grenades and im on ultra violence

[winter stream]

Alt + Tab

[north cove]

thank you so much, you have saved me so many resets now

nevermind, dont work ingame

[winter stream]

then there's something wrong with your game if alt + tab doesn't let you switch windows

[runic solstice]

Cant wait to start playin it

[restive moat]

What’s your gpu?

[runic solstice]

Im a Playstation guy lol

I dont fw PC

[restive moat]

Oh well still set visuals as high as you can it’s amazing

[runic solstice]

I will

Im going to 100% this game when I come back from vacation

[warm lily]

Ello, happy new year!

Done 5/6 missions and now restarted on 3rd diff. Couple questions regarding unlocking stuff. 1. When the compass pulses, it means I'm near a secret area. It just means physically right? Not necessarily the entrance itself? And can you always access said area's or do you need to do additional stuff to unlock or move stuff to access? 2. On the map/mission screen there's a exploration tab with ???? secrets and 2 weapon upgrades. What determines unlocking those? 3. and I didn't pay atttention to it the first time but the 5 weapon unlocks in the top right while playing are the ones for just killing X demons right?

[onyx grove]

you too

[onyx grove]

yes the compass flashes if your near one and if you have the upgrade

[opal shale]

DOOM (2016) on console has next to no graphic options. You can turn off Chromatic Aberration and adjust/disable Motion Blur, that's about it. The Playstation and Xbox version of the game use a mix of Medium and High PC settings. As someone who owns the game on both PC (I play with max settings) and Xbox One X/Xbox Series X and has played through multiple times on both, I can say the game looks fantastic on console and the differences are truly negligable. Interestingly, on Xbox Series consoles, the game gets HDR colour via Auto HDR. The colours really pop in that version and the more powerful hardware holds to native 2160p at 60 fps pretty much constant.

[warm lily]

I'd love to play this on a 4k 32" curved screen. But alas I just have a poor 27" 1440p 144hz screen.

[halcyon bear]

24 Is my sweet spot

[runic hound]

I bought Doom 2016 and eternal, then I beat 2016, start up doom eternal, and it crashed because my gpu is from like, 2013

it was fun

[elder meadow]

cyber demon looks like godzilla

[icy valve]

I just started playing 2016 and i think it gives me the mixed vibes of doom 3 and doom eternal

[icy valve]

Oh yo wassup

[jagged light]

i regret turning off the music in doom 2016 on my first playthrough, thankfully i decided to turn it back on when bfg division was gonna play in-game

[icy valve]

BFG division, super gore nest, rip and tear, the only thing they fear is you, e1m1, e1m4 are the best doom songs

[true lagoon]

doom 2016 is just a modernized doom 1993 tbh

or at least its a very similar game, but has some continuation of doom 64, but for example, why were there 2 spider masterminds and 2 cyber demons, so there is some continuation, but its mostly a reskin of doom 1993

[wraith tangle]

it's a reskin?

There are some vibes preserved but it is not a reskin

[warm lily]

Can you can get all secrets, rune trials etc without using runes that give e.g. extra control in air? I assume so but just double checking.

[fresh shadow]

Yeah, you totally can, but I strongly suggest investing Praetor Tokens in Area-Scanning technology. Also, the most difficult part is gonna be seeing those damn levers, they blend entirely too well in the environment.

[wraith tangle]

or just watch a video guide on how to grab the items. the map is confusing imo

[opal shale]

For console, I play in my family room and have an entry level Samsung 43" TU7050. It's still a fantastic gaming TV and both DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal look great.

For PC, that's in my home office and I'm using a very old Samsung 22" SyncMaster P2270, which is holding up very well. It's 1080p at 60hz and has excellent contrast ranges.

[warm lily]

@wraith tangle Yea, the map is sufficient for playing but for secret spots/trials it requires a lot of zooming in and out to make sure I'm on the right height level, orientation etc. Even right now I think I need to go back to the beginning of the level but don't think I can go back up the buildings. It's for a rune trial so I can retry the level and then leave after reaching it but in the previous level I also wanted to backtrack but was locked out or better said locked in the last area.

@opal shale 22"... twitch twitch

[halcyon bear]

Its actually got far more in common with quake than classic doom

A reskin in any way though? Absolutely not.. that's just a silly thing to say

[warm lily]

Quake is even faster in some ways but also more limited in how you play.

Doom (so far ;p) is just a great action game with some attempt of a story. ;p

[opal shale]

DOOM Eternal gave me heavy Quake vibes.

[halcyon bear]

Main reason why I'm on the fence about next game being quake since new doom already plays like a baby between the 2 games

[wraith tangle]

maybe this will get me crucified, but as far as doom vs quake goes in terms of the framing for the next game, it doesn't matter at all. They're both limited story shooters with similar "vibes". And those vibes are going into inspiring the next game. It's not like the new games lift mechanics in any way. Quake4 is more similar to doom3 compared to quake3 for example

[warm lily]

Like the 5th time I finish a "big" fight and then after the checkpoint reached message comes I see the power up in the corner.

[halcyon bear]

Haahahaha classic

[clever silo]

Does anyone have the unused concept art of the Praetor helmet with "Born Again" on the side from 2016?

[elder meadow]

hi

[elder meadow]

once i finsih DE ima play 2016 and see how much easier it is compared to DE

[elder meadow]

the beginning of rip and tear is so good

doom 3 theme sounds like some modern heavy metal rock song

like from slipknot

[icy valve]

I dont like how falling out of the area is an insta death

[icy valve]

I dont listen to slipknot i do like korn and megadeth though

[wraith tangle]

DE is harder to learn in terms of it being more key presses but 2016 is much less forgiving. Healing is harder to come by; enemies hit harder; your movement is weaker so you're more likely required to deliberately move differently depending on envirnment and enemies

[thick glade]

2016 first level on UN is insane
Eternal first level on UN was way less awful

[wraith tangle]

I think I agree with that.

[thick glade]

Also no dash, flame belch, ice bomb or meat hook in 2016 gives you less options so generally I think it's harder
That is until eternal throws everything it has at you then it gets insane

[halcyon bear]

Really eases you into that at least

[icy valve]

Definitely

[north cove]

it does but it doesnt bring up the gui

[late halo]

Anyone want to play some multiplayer dm if so I’m bored

[little moss]

does doom 2016 have any issues as of now

[still lily]

idk. DE was way easier for me

[fast oar]

I'm gonna play at 20:00 CET on Playstation so what platform are you at?

[halcyon bear]

Not at all. Doom eternal was fine tuned in terms of difficulty. 2016 nightmare won't have mercy on you

[wraith tangle]

DE difficulty is fine tuned if you choose to not use all the overpowered stuff

[halcyon bear]

Never do. Not even in 2016. Doing a nightmare tactical scope main playthrough right now. Titans realm still deathless

Making a tact scope montage

Besides where the fun in using over powered shit? It's like those people that play 2016 ssg only? Why?

[wraith tangle]

at least ssg has some disadvantage in needing to get close

[halcyon bear]

Also by fined tuned I guess I should say it's higher difficulty is more accessible for mainstream audiences which is great since eternal attracted so many new players.

Not a fan of that but still

[wraith tangle]

by that, we of course mean that people running around with the gold skin in DE battlemode are usually easy pickings

[halcyon bear]

I like to use default also since switching to pc I have a super low rank .. good times 🔥

I really want to get into modded 2016 content but not sure what to start with. I've seen custom monsters and such like caco with area of effect damage

[still lily]

oh where did you see that

the caco

[halcyon bear]

https://youtu.be/IULLVeYmbRg

[halcyon bear]

Here you go

[still lily]

ohh i know that guy lol

Pretty cool yeah.

[void venture]

When I use gold skin - my enemy leave

[snow heron]

While I like how DOOM Eternal actually gave the Cacodemon a pupil I still really like its 2016 design

[halcyon bear]

Oh definitely! There's a few demon designs I prefer more in 2016

Rev being another one

[snow heron]

Oh yeah the Revenant 100%

I also prefer 2016’s Baron design over Eternals

I think it’s red and pink skin stand out really nicely among the other demons

[halcyon bear]

yes!!! The baron just has a more demonic intimidating design

[still lily]

Hell knight is so much better in 2016

why did they give it eyes... so cursed

[snow heron]

The eyes ain’t that bad though I do prefer 2016s design

[elder meadow]

I didnt die that much first time playing 2016, i actually did prtty good first campaign of 2016 i learned some combos mid campaign

im almost finished playing DE im on the 2nd last mission til icon of sin and so far it feels like its going by fast, but when i played 2016 it felt not fast nor slow but just long

but i def prefer DE over 2016

still, 2016 is rlly good prob saying that cuz that was my first ever doom game i played which was a few months ago

[elder meadow]

bro the first time i fought baron of hell in 2016 i died multiple times... demons in 2016 are harder to kill then DE imo

[thick glade]

That was me ngl
Ssg and rocket launcher and Gauss cannon and that's it
I started using more weapons in eternal

[chilly maple]

Yeah, in DOOM 2016 you are just unstoppable in endgame. SSG+ Gauss Cannon shreds through enemies and even bosses. Siege Mode one shots nearly everything. And don't get me started on the BFG. Eternal's BFG is kind of a joke compared to 2016's. 3 shots, one-shots everything besides bosses, you can get BFG ammo from kills with Ammo Boost equipped. Also power-ups appear more often in 2016. Berserk for example appears in Eternal like only in Arc Complex and SGN ML.

[snow heron]

And even if you don’t have the Rich Get Richer rune you still have a fuck ton of ammo if you upgraded your ammo pool

[torn isle]

пон

[thick glade]

I actually prefer being less op
Eternal in higher difficulties forces you to use everything all the time and it's more interesting

[chilly maple]

Me too actually

[thick glade]

And then whenever I touch UN I realise I still need to get better at doing everything all the time

[runic solstice]

So I completed all Snap map trophies

Anyone willing to boost Multiplayer with me?

[thick glade]

I tried that, game crashed on the 3rd map I was playing
And snap maps takes a solid 5 minutes to load so I just gave up

[runic solstice]

Lol its so ez to get t

Just search up quick win

And do it 5 times and the trophy is all urs

[winter stream]

[still lily]

bruh

[still lily]

snapmap is so underrated it hurts

[wraith tangle]

is it? Everyone seems to like it so idk how it'd be underrated

[still lily]

Fr? I always thought it quite the opposite but yes. EXTREMELY underrated

most people probably dont even know all the crazy shit you can do with it now

like how many of yall have seen this?

https://youtu.be/9yxMw__iDDg

or checked out #d2016-modding

[thick glade]

That looks cool

[halcyon bear]

Snapmap 🔥

[still lily]

Horror Map:
ID: BE8SRM7W
Funne Pizza map:
ID: RF8RW3KJ

just dropping these here

were literally are just now scratching the surface of what its capable of

[winter stream]

The broad perception of it as far as I am aware, is that it's remembered as the limited editor it was on release

There were some pretty popular videos like the 10000 revenants video or whatever and crowbcats video on snapmap

Both gave snapmap a terrible name

[thick glade]

How many e1m1 remakes are there?

[winter stream]

Too many

[thick glade]

As expected

[winter stream]

The rating system hurts snapmaps reputation terribly too

Because you can only upvote or downvote, keeping maps that were made during peak playerbase immortalized

And I can't name a single good map that was made in 2016

It was only after updates and external tools that better quality maps could be made

But by then there's not enough of a player base to match the thousands of plays and ratings that some garbage 2016-made map has

If it just used a 5 star or /10 rating system, you could actually filter by quality of ratings and not quantity

[snow heron]

The people who use SnapMap to remake E1M1 are the same people that remake 1-1 in Super Mario Maker

[still lily]

uninspired loafs

[snow heron]

Or people who make a indie retro style FPS that’s just Doom

Actually I like some of those never mind

[opal bronze]

I remember when I first played this. My switch L A G G E D

[still lily]

i wish it was even indie retro style. But no its just copy and pasted modules or blocking box hallways i can make in 30 minutes. Most snapmaps are uninspired. Basically only the small dedicated community is making things worth playing.

sad cuz i wish dooms fanbase appreciated how powerful it is now. Guess ill just have to make a 2016 campaign dlc or something before doom fans bat an eye.

[halcyon bear]

Truth

[snow heron]

SnapMap is unappreciated

[still lily]

100%

but imma still keep working on it till i get everything I want done. I love snapmap ffs 🥹

[thick glade]

That was my exact thought
Also isn't e1m1 already a classic map in 2016? (I don't remember which levels are and aren't)

[winter stream]

I just don't get the appeal to making something thats been done countless times unless you're going to set out to be the best one

Or add a cool twist to it

[thick glade]

Idk ask the thousands of Mario maker players who remake levels

I haven't tried out snap maps I don't have the patience to figure out another level editor

Seems cool though

[halcyon bear]

Eternal needed to refine it not dump it. Pure shame

[dry prawn]

hey guys personally i think that doom 2016 is the best and is better than eternal. change my mind?

[thick glade]

Oh hi pope Francis my man
My counter argument is eternal had the meat hook and therefore is automatically better

[dry prawn]

to be fair I do enjoy that

personally I think Doom 2016 just had better character models and the game wasn't quite as fast paced as eternal is

[thick glade]

I like the fast pace but your opinion is valid
Visually I liked a lot of 2016 more than eternal

[craggy schooner]

just came up with that and wrote under some hunter group post. And I thought it was hillarious so I'm sharing it with you guys 😄 (I hope I translated it good enough)

"In the first age, in the first hunting when the roar died down one stood.
bushed by forest flora
he choose the path through spiky bushes
his gun shined beyond the glade.
he wore the hat of the hunter.
and those who tasted the lead of his gun named him....

....THE DEER SLAYER

[runic solstice]

GUYS

I NEED UR HELP

So I restarted my mission on accident and it reset my collectibles and shit

[craggy schooner]

just get it again. no easy way

[runic solstice]

No cuz yk the glitch where u wont get the trophy

[craggy schooner]

oh

[runic solstice]

Wait nvm wtf am I crying for

Thats if u use mission select so hopefully nothing bad happens

[craggy schooner]

ye a bit strange

it happend to me before.reinstalled the game and jhst rip and tore shit again

[runic solstice]

U used mission select?

For runes?

[craggy schooner]

ye

I did a lot of crazy shit. to test out game limits

once I got stuck under map in a rune trial

[runic solstice]

Lmfao

[placid marlin]

I am listing to doom main menu now 🥶🥶

[runic solstice]

Its heat

[still lily]

it was good... at first.

but then after reloading doom for the 9000th time in my life after it crashes and its 3am which for some reason the song itself is super loud and it gets pretty annoying.

otherwise yeah its a good song

[frosty forge]

yo

[warm lily]

Ok Dome 2016... done! Holy !@#$ that ending (fight) is bad. ;o

[frosty forge]

yo anyone wants to co-op? I just reinstalled doom 2016 because since i had a new laptop (windows 11 preview) so i had to transfer everythin

from the main pc 🥶

[warm lily]

Just bad. It was super easy and wasn't introduced properly and well al lot of things. ;p

[frosty forge]

same,i almost completed it on mah ps3

[halcyon bear]

Probably that it was pounding his ass

[astral badge]

Anyone up for some mp?

On Xbox

[runic solstice]

Guys

There is 13 missions in Doom 2016 right?

Mention me if u respond

[silver trout]

I think

[runic solstice]

Perfect

[uncut elk]

There is. Single-player is comprised of 13 missions. @runic solstice

[runic solstice]

Nice

Only 3 more missions left for me

I just gotta collect every collectible then grind out everything for platinum trophy

[uncut elk]

Fantastic. Best of luck with that man.

Congratulations on nearing the end.

[runic solstice]

Yessir

[astral badge]

Can someone help me get 15 kills in a row on a private match for Xbox?

15 kills in a row without dying

[still lily]

id be down at some point. But ur talking about snapmap right? cuz mp is uhh not my speciality

[green mural]

I can play on weekends, I'm trying to get 100% achievements on D2016 for Xbox

[runic solstice]

Same for me except im on PS5

[green mural]

It's actually really fun going back to their old MP. It makes me sad it never really took off much

[snow heron]

2016 mp is so much fun. Shame it was replaced by Battlemode

[runic solstice]

2016 mp was surprisingly good

Even tho I was playing for the trophy

It was nice

[still lily]

it's not bad.

Better then battle mode

[runic solstice]

What even is battle mode?

[halcyon bear]

Just give us a refined snapmap

[still lily]

Fr.

At least snapmap has gotten better thanks to modding

trying to make a sword melee weapon its going pretty well so far

[sharp vapor]

@wild kestrel just check the minimum requirements

[wild kestrel]

1 sec lemme use smart game boost rq

[sharp vapor]

if it won't run just keep lowering the resolution (and the other graphics settings of course) until it somehow does

if it still doesn't that's when you give up and play D4T

[wild kestrel]

the graphic card doesnt match

i hope that it will work with some low settings

[sharp vapor]

unless your gpu doesn't support the libraries it uses, go with the resolution thing

[wild kestrel]

ok

25% rn

[north lintel]

would it be on switch understandable if not

[still lily]

the game? Yes.

no snapmap tho. so waste of money

[halcyon bear]

It is and a fantastic game. Definitely recommend it

[noble moat]

Nah it’s a phenomenal game even without snapmap

I had bought it on switch and played it numerous times. Almost all it in just the campaign

[north lintel]

its on switch? how much

[silver trout]

Doing another ultra violence run on 2016, haven’t played in a year. Wish me luck

[silver trout]

The hardest someone has beaten doom on switch was hurt me plenty

Sucks

[halcyon bear]

Bobs done it multiple times on nightmare

[silver trout]

Who the fuck is bob

[halcyon bear]

The fucking guy you replied to above

[silver trout]

Damn

I’m dumb

[noble moat]

I beat it on ultranightmare before

As well as nightmare numerous times on switch

[silver trout]

You’re the fucking nightmare my guy

[atomic horizon]

With Joy-Cons or a Controller? If you use joy-cons…total madlad 😉

[noble moat]

Handheld so joycons

[thick glade]

Does anyone find it weird how 2016 is end loaded with bosses?

[still lily]

false. its certainly not worth the same. You're literally getting so much less content for the same price lmao

[noble moat]

Never said it was worth the same. I said it’s still a phenomenal game
Lmao

[still lily]

idk who would spend 80 bucks just to play campaign on tiny screen 30fps. when you can get 2016 on pc for like 7 bucks with all the features, preformance etc.

[noble moat]

$30 when on sale or less.
Screen is adequate,
The portability of it is a huge bonus, and for people who only have a switch and no other device

[still lily]

still 3 times the price for less... everything

[noble moat]

Then it’s probably not for you 🤷‍♂️

[still lily]

i just don't think its good practice to remove features especially ones as huge as snapmap and still keep it full price but thats just my opinion

[noble moat]

At a time I only owned the switch, and you can bet I was damn happy I was able to play it on there. Playing it numerous times.

Plenty of people were in the same situation

The cost price I will agree on. However. The devs also had to hire an entirely separate team to port the game to switch

On top of making the entire game on a single cartridge

[still lily]

i just love snapmap. And i was thinking about getting a switch. so it just really sucks thats permanently not an option because the switches preformance sucks too hard or they were just too lazy to do it.

[noble moat]

The former

The game campaign was already incredibly difficult to optimize for with the weak switch hardware. It would have been impossible to allow snapmap to run since you cannot optimize individual created maps

[still lily]

that 5 fps into the Mortuary hit different

just sad. ig thats why i have a laptop now anyway

oh right steam deck forgot that was a thing

definitely could snapmap on that

[noble moat]

I have a steamdeck. So definitely don’t get me wrong, it’s also a handled with $5 doom 2016 on sale with all features

But the switch as is was still niche and more portable

Of course if you own both don’t bother getting it on switch

Etc etc

But for people with no options, switch version is still very very adequate

[still lily]

well, glad i got options then. Sad for them.

[still lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/730452290896527450/1061131562453831860/20230106195756_1.jpg

weve been looking through snapmap textures

and oh my god who made this

i wish the id employees were active at all

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/730452290896527450/1061132413033529384/20230106200116_1.jpg

nah what is this..

😭

[winter stream]

Hugo Martin Pizza

[still lily]

someone dm hugo asking him his prices. My dog needs a cut.

[willow iris]

multiplayer is still alive?

[modern current]

How does doom 2016 run on switch?

[opal kayak]

I’ve only played the switch version and I think it runs really well

Eternal is a bit worse but that’s to be expected

[fast oar]

You cannot compare those two, it's a completely different setup. In 2016 MP you got only 2 weapons and in Battlemode almost your full arsenal. The a-symetric design of Battlemode and the more fastpaced mobility of both sides makes that gametype very fun. Yes I am a Battlemoder and at this moment I am very enjoying MP 2016 and as player of both types I can say that they are both great gamedesigns. Battlemode introduced me into onlinegaming because of playing with only one (demon) partner. Yes I am main demonplayer in Battlemode, but by that I know the toxity like COD is not there. (Still a few are of course). I am glad the Doom community isn't that main also not in the 2016 multiplayer. Verdict: two completely different gametypes but both great but depending on taste.

[modern current]

I wont get it, i didnt really like it tbh

[snow heron]

I was comparing them in the sense there 2 multiplayer modes. Also at there core there the same “shoot the enemy and kill them to win/score a point”. I was saying in my original message is that I had more fun with 2016 mp then I do with Battlemode

[fast oar]

Yeah I know, its a matter of taste. I loved Battlemode and now very much into Multiplayer 2016. The refreshing of an a-symetric gametype was for me great

[untold stirrup]

gameplay-wise or smthing?

[winter stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1061361639896666132/20230107111026_1.jpg

This is on some texture in the game files.

[modern current]

Too many game mechanics that werent needed, i preferred doom 2016 because it was like the original games, just move and shoot

[untold stirrup]

at its core though, it's still really just move and shoot

[snow heron]

They didn’t add too many mechanics to Eternal that make it complicated imo

Weak points aren’t hard to remember or are a necessity to killing an enemy

Monkey bars you swing in your own

The Chainsaw is simple

So is basic quick swapping and the dash is just cool

[still lily]

i dont think the mechanics were entirely the problem. it just seemed much more annoying to play. Purple goop literally is the worst thing in any video game ever 💜 carcass annyoing, marauder is annoying.. literally have to just wait for his ai to be good enough to attack.

i found it easier than 2016. it was just more annoying

but thats just my opinion

[elder meadow]

Does anyone else find the pinky in doom 2016 ridiculously cute

[runic solstice]

FUCK THE PINKY

I hate those little turds

[wraith tangle]

sidestep works better than double jump for whatever reason

[clever sparrow]

Oddly enough, now that you mention it, he is kinda cute

[runic solstice]

No he isnt

Pinkys deserve nothing but death

[modern current]

Platforming, i hated it

[opal kayak]

Pinkies look tasty

[clever sparrow]

I mean the doom 2016 lore says that they found gnawed pinky corpses in Hell, implying they’re actually a delicacy in hell

[opal kayak]

And ever since I read that line in the codex I looked at pinkies as food instead of a threat

[snow heron]

it really wasn't that bad or hard

[still lily]

all the more reason i wish id devs were alive here.

i need the lore behind this

[halcyon bear]

They are

[modern current]

It felt out of place

[still lily]

i agree

literally looked like mario some of it lol

green pipes and question marks and spinning flames i was waiting to stomp on goombas fr

[snow heron]

not really

only place was maybe the last bit at the end of Exultia

[halcyon bear]

Yeah the platforming is not even really a thing. It's there I guess but barely notice it

[ashen trout]

Anybody still play this

I need people to play with

@peak roverl

@everyone

@everyone

[winter stream]

in snapmap or multiplayer?

[wraith tangle]

every day, several people look for a group while complaining multiplayer is dead: despite numerous people here wanting to play and the fact that games are still played online, as long as it's reasonable hours. Also, this is a server of thousands upon thousands of people. @ ing everybody is a bit of a faux pax

[still lily]

wdym its not okay to @ 100k people?

nerd!

[ashen trout]

lmao

sorry

[ashen trout]

multiplayer

[untold stirrup]

there's platforming in 2016 too, and the one in Eternal isn't that hard either

[compact vale]

Am I able to run 2016 Doom with these specs?
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1005G1 CPU @ 1.20GHz
Intel(R) UHD Graphics
Windows 11
12 GB

[modern current]

Th platforming is minimal

[silent leaf]

Yeah there isn't MUCH platforming but there is some

[runic solstice]

Well fellas

Only one more trophy till I get platinum

The UAC on UN diffuculty

[still lily]

ez

[modern current]

And fhe platforming in 2016 involved just jumping occasionally, there was little downtime between all the killing, whereas in eternal there are long sections comprised of jumps, dashes and climbing with no killing inbetween

[wraith tangle]

where specifically? doom hunter base has a plat section?

[modern current]

There were points in levels with extended platforming sections, they werent that long, but they still felt out of place imo

[wraith tangle]

I mean specific levels where that happened. maybe One bit in arc complex, one in Mars core - ok there are a few. they're short and I think they're ok but I see what you mean

[opal shale]

It's below the minimum system requirements.

With respect to DOOM Eternal and it's gameplay mechanics, when I first started playing the game, I got to Cultist Base and could not believe how much they got wrong. This wasn't a DOOM game and felt so awful and frustrating to play compared to DOOM (2016) or the original titles. I abandoned the game and moved on.

Shortly after I started watching Hugo Martin's playthrough streams, as I heard he was talking about design and the decision making behind them. He was indeed, and I listened, and even though I didn't always agree with everything, I now had a better understanding of the why of things.

I then decided to try DOOM Eternal again, this time playing the game for what it was and not what I wanted it to be, and it's fantastic. I've now played through it and it's expansion several times and it's one of the best shooters I've ever played.

The atmosphere and story is lesser than DOOM (2016) and the gameplay is absolutely more "arcade-like," but that gameplay really is more skill-based with a real learning curve. The encounters, the platforming, the mechanics, all are designed to teach the player how to play and improve the game through actual experience. It's quite well done.

[halcyon bear]

Have to agree there. I'm sure some people have muscle memory issues going between both games but over time it's second nature

[runic solstice]

Just got platinum on Doom 2016

I love this game

Top 10 game fs

It was an honor to platinum

[silver trout]

2016 is my fav doom game, I got all the achievements like 4 years ago and every play through I just love it, the only section that is somewhat annoying is the hell sections

[runic solstice]

Eh its alright

The hell sections were nice

[elder meadow]

It’s funny I bought it on day 1 in 2016… started playing it like a modern shooter moving slow and using cover. Getting absolutely wrecked. Got stuck on some jump puzzle and just said screw it and dropped the game. Now 6 years later I got Eternal, played it, loved it, beat it. Then went back to 2016 with a better grip on what this game is supposed to be (even though it is different from eternal), played it, loved it, beat it.

Then switching back to other shooters I’m having the opposite problem as I did in 2016. Instead of using cover and tactics I run in guns blazing like I’m the Doom Slayer and trying to get up close for a glory kill or something 😂. Doesn’t work.

[runic solstice]

Its crazy how Doom is simple

Yet so fun

[rocky dagger]

Let's get it I going to beat the game in ultra nightmare

[still lily]

imp fireball is gonna whoop ur ass ong

who would win.
op ebic sooper cool doom slayer with "indestructible" armor

or 1 tiny fireball an imp randomly tossed while running away

[slim pebble]

Imps are a nightmare in this game compared to Eternal

[untold stirrup]

They go from fodder to super heavy just by switching to Nightmare difficulty

[halcyon bear]

Absolutely

[brittle otter]

Anyone playing the multiplayer?

[silver trout]

No

Doom 2016 multiplayer and eternal multiplayer died on release

[brittle otter]

I found games quite fast not long ago?

Just not today

[elder meadow]

I got an instant full lobby yesterday on 2016/PlayStation

[snow heron]

Cheeky bastards throwing fireballs behind them while they run away

I will admit that’s a pretty cool feature though

2016 had a lot of small animations for enemies

[opal shale]

I do this with the Halo franchise myself 😆 .

[still lily]

bruh

[azure egret]

I totally agree with you about the atmosphere, I would like to see them reimplement some of those concepts on the next game. Hugo talked a little bit about the atmosphere differences between 2016 and Eternal and noted that every demon in Eternal has it's own subject light in addition to the ambient lighting in game - unlike 2016. I think that's a huge factor in it feeling much more arcade like. I still love Eternal for exactly what it is though, I wouldn't change a thing.

[opal shale]

His reason for doing that is sound though. It was done for target acquisition. When you're blazing along as quickly as you are in DOOM Eternal, normal lighting made it far too difficult to see targets.

[azure egret]

Exactly. I would like to see them strike a balance of target acuisition with the atmosphere elements of 2016. I don't know if it could be done but I'd love to see it.

[opal shale]

From what I understand, it couldn't, thus the need for every monster and pick up to have it's own light source.

[snow heron]

Yeah. Also Eternal was made like that to reflect the classic games cartoony bright look. Lets be real Classic Doom is not a super dark gritty game it's rather colorful. E3M6 anyone?

[modest bridge]

yo

ppl should search team play rn on pc

tryna have some nosalgic fun

[polar sage]

is 2016 and eternal the same

[still lily]

yes there are entirely 2 seprate channels for the same game. and theyre called different things and have different gamemodes.

[polar sage]

oh really?

[still lily]

no they're different lmao

[polar sage]

interesting because i thought they were the same

[still lily]

2016 better

[polar sage]

well okay thanks for explaining to me

[still lily]

np bro

[still lily]

ghost pinged.....

[azure egret]

Very good point.

[elder meadow]

doom on the Nokia

[slim tide]

Doom 2016 has better graphics but worse combat flow

You can make absolutely broken rune builds tho lol

[gray nacelle]

I’m just now finding out that you can chainsaw a baron 😭

I just beat 2016 😭

[elder meadow]

I have the achievement on ps4 for upgrading all the runes but not the achievement for the getting all the runes, any fixes to this?

[gray nacelle]

no

[halcyon bear]

It doesn't have better graphics eternal is using Id tech 7 engine. But it does have fantastic aesthetics

[slim pebble]

2016 had floating corpses and props though

[slim tide]

Graphics are just looks and aesthetics and design to me. I don't mind the slight cartoon stuff of eterna but 2016 was a bit more brutal

[noble moat]

Because 2016 has a darker aesthetic

Graphics refers more to like detail level. Of which eternal has significantly more.

2016 has less details, but it’s more of the horror aesthetic of doom. Since it’s not cartoony or arcady

[void venture]

But you can play without runes lol

[snow heron]

Having floating corpses and props doesn’t mean anything

There are floating stuff in Eternal as well

[slim pebble]

I'm talking about outside of low gravity environments

[blissful thorn]

where was the dude that i talked with that had idk, 2000 hours on 2016 and made good snapmap maps, he had a pizza themed one and used smthn from it as his pfp

[snow heron]

I don’t think DOOM 2016 or Eternal has low gravity environments

[winter stream]

doom 2016 multiplayer does

[pallid oasis]

What do you expect from a fast paced shooter

By the way if you hate the low gravity environments then stop playing it. You can return the game in 30 days before it loses its value on consol

If you want to return the game from steam watch a video on how to do it

[still lily]

oh lol probably @winter stream or me

[viscid crescent]

Nice ATM, but can it run doom?

[snow heron]

No one was saying they hate the low gravity though?

[snow heron]

Ah I remember now

[pallid oasis]

Sorry if i was wrong

I miss understud

I thought you didn't like it

Sorry

[winter stream]

Lmao that was me

Though I just helped with some of the more technical parts of pizza map

Now my pfp is the moon from this project I've been working on: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527578891944006/1062754061893517432/8mb.video-uGz-t5t2eq8c_Trim-1.mp4

[blissful thorn]

Now your a glowing orb, what more do you have to do to impress me

[winter stream]

I'm probably going to be at this project for a while. I recently made some discoveries that lets us use many textures from the multiplayer and Campaign that were previously thought to be inaccessible so I'm splitting my time between that and bringing these textures to the "masses"

[snow heron]

Is this modded SnapMap?

Either way it looks incredible

[winter stream]

Yes and no. It's modded in the sense that it took mod tools to make, but not modded in the sense that anyone, even console users, can play it.

[snow heron]

Ah. Still very cool. That day night cycle and little igloo looks nice

[winter stream]

Yeah the engine just happens to have a pretty decent dynamic lighting system

[halcyon bear]

Ponder the orb

[untold stirrup]

both are good and provide a different playing experience, and thus should not be compared

[snow heron]

A lot of people

[still lily]

one has snapmap the other doesnt. simple as.

[atomic horizon]

Classic DOOM, DOOM 3, 2016 and Eternal are amazing in their own.

[atomic horizon]

DOOM is one of the game franchises that likes to try on different things.

You have the action-filled classics, the horror-oriented Doom 3, the turn-based shooter Doom RPG, the rail shooter Doom Resurrection, the VR shooter DOOM VFR and a version of Doom 3, another action-filled title with DOOM (2016) and the high-octane Eternal.

And there’s also an Archero-esque Mighty DOOM.

[slim pebble]

Snapmap was missing a lot

[winter stream]

not so much anymore

[still lily]

like what?

[slim pebble]

Movers, certain weapon mods, a few playable demons, bosses, and so on.

[still lily]

they removed some files for some weapon mods cyberdemon and spider mastermind and playable demon but we have everything else now. Everything else that is missing can just be modded in also. There's even a 24 demon limit now and movers are amazing.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/730452290896527450/1062787884777742426/Doom_2023.01.11_-_09.37.20.09.DVR_Trim.mp4

i wish snapmap launched like this, itd still be alive ong

literally every "snapmap wishlist" ive seen we literally have everything but some doom specific things, nothing that particularly limits your creativity.

[winter stream]

At this point you can just make your own unique bosses

#videos message

[snow heron]

Ngl the Reaper looks pretty cool like that

[snow heron]

Like how the Siphon grenade model is reused here

[still lily]

lol its a joke map, so it puts ur weapons up like a gangster

[winter stream]

I would definitely go for more of a prefab of many different assets for a future boss next time. I wasn't responsible for the boss' visual design in this project.

[echo igloo]

Hey new to the server can someone help w nodding I wanna play ashes 2063

[winter stream]

the GZ Doom mod?

I would try asking in #classic-doom-maps-mods

[noble moat]

2016 mp popping tonight

[viscid wing]

hi

[still lily]

hi

[fast oar]

Which platform?

[halcyon bear]

You gotta love it

[halcyon bear]

Bobs on steam deck or switch

[fast oar]

Thanks! You still play MP?

[halcyon bear]

Definitely! Just been playing quake 3 a bit more lately

[fast oar]

Send you a DM so if you like you can join us in multiplayer 💪

[halcyon bear]

So down bro! On pc these days though

[fast oar]

Still got Playstation? @halcyon bear? I don't have PC for gaming...

[halcyon bear]

It's still around and I can hop on once in a while

[blissful thorn]

Can someone tell me are there any good endless snapmaps on 2016

[winter stream]

Snowmen Sleighers - MGTCR4T3
An endless survival arena that was originally made for a winter themed competition

[blissful thorn]

not a huge fan of winter, got any endless arenas themed in hell?

[winter stream]

I don't know of any good ones

ig there's 4KGC3JPK

[blissful thorn]

wahts it about

[winter stream]

It's just a survival arena

that's more hell themed

though its more in a work in progress state

[blissful thorn]

ok cewl, when i get 2016 ill be sure to play it

[noble moat]

Was on steamdeck. Having an absolute blast

Full lobby the other day. And I hated that I had to leave. But needed to sleep for school

[fast oar]

Very important

[fast oar]

Playstation almost everyday full lobbies

[regal tree]

Are there certain times people get on to play mp on xbox?

[halcyon bear]

https://youtu.be/lQGIf7XQU-4

[graceful badge]

That’s cool

[charred wadi]

extremely late to the party. I am currently looking at 100%-ing Doom 2016, with the hard part finding a multiplayer lobby, the fact there are still so many game modes available gives the appearance it's still being played but only serves to spread out the little amount of players they have.

What would be the best region to search on and what game mode would give the lowest queue time with all considerations.

Would there happen to be a player base here whom plays a certain times?

[wraith tangle]

North America team based objective fix at hours that are not 3am Eastern

[jovial dirge]

Welp I decided to delete my current save file(just unlocked the succ grenades) and have already made it to the foundry(my least favorite level) and have 100% completed the first two levels first try

Hopefully that’ll fix my previous issue

[charred wadi]

alrighty, will give that a go. thanks

[snow sage]

i’m dumb

[eternal anchor]

just beat my first doom game

I beat it on im too young to die pretty sure

was still kinda hard but I dont think I died to any bosses

did them all first try

didnt even take me 10 hours

[halcyon bear]

That's the easiest difficulty. Most people steam roll the game on I'm too young

[untold stirrup]

Yep

[alpine fiber]

is multiplayer still alive?

[wraith tangle]

scroll up a bit. people ask almost every day and last I checked, I got a game going quickly

[eternal minnow]

finally beat doom 2016 on nightmare

after like a year of playing, i decided i'd do it

cheesed some bosses but otherwise SSG-siege mode'd my way through it

[elder meadow]

GZ bro

[still lily]

ssg-siege
so u didnt really beat it

jk nightmare hard gud job

[hardy dirge]

need some help getting win a multiplayer match achivement

going for the platinum lol

[still lily]

git gud

ez plat

[fast oar]

Very easy, Eternal much more difficult to get all trophies for multiplayer. Just play it and have it in probably half an hour.

[hardy dirge]

the problem is

no one is online for multiplayer lmao

i cant get any matches

[halcyon horizon]

@hardy dirge

[stoic arch]

https://imgur.com/raxe93L

😡

mfw scouring the whole foundry trying to find what might be like 1 demon that needs you to step on a specific area to spawn

[wraith tangle]

once you complete every objective before the final, 3 HKs spawn. idk what it is you missed but that might be it

[stoic arch]

after what was like 40 minutes i found 1 demon in an obscure corner inside the retro zone which completed the circle

ironically after that, i triggered the olivia scene which afterwards spawned 2-3 possessed. i dont know if i could have completed the circle with those instead

[wraith tangle]

is there even an achievement for all the combat points?

[stoic arch]

every completed circle grants you a juicy weapon point

[untold stirrup]

mmjp knows, he's talking about steam achievements

[wraith tangle]

yeah I just remember not grabbing every point since I had enough anyway for every upgrade

[untold stirrup]

Yeah they all just eventually stack

By the end of the game I had like 52 lol

I could've upgraded the other mods and gotten the all mods upgraded achievement but I didn't bother

[stoic arch]

thats true, i did get all upgrades in my last playthrough

i just like to get them faster

by the way is there any mod that auto-completes the rune trials, after having already solved them previously, this is the only thing that sounds like a drag

cant find one in modsnexus

[untold stirrup]

I don't think such a thing exists

[stoic arch]

surprised noone thought of it since 2016 since there is a notable portion of the playerbase that isnt a big fan of the trials

i'll cope

maybe witcher 3 spoiled me because for every gameplay thing that i thought was tedious, there was a mod for it when i searched modsnexus.

[still lily]

no idea about campaign modding but for some reason not many people mod 2016, i just got into modding it for snapmap

gonna try to make an awesome modded custom map

eventually

[halcyon bear]

I'm in a doom 2016 modding server with 6 thousand members. They exist

[still lily]

specifically 2016?

inv?

[still lily]

that's weird considering theres BARELY any 2016 mods on nexus

Im in the 2016+ modding server zwip runs and yeah. Same story. Barely anyone tries nowadays. It's sad.

snapmap has way more modding potential than any current modern doom game tbh

all the more reason it confuses the hell outta me where there isnt more people

[halcyon bear]

Yeah got invited by allstin a few months back. Some neat stuff over there

[still lily]

simply not enough if ya ask me

[stoic arch]

on the plus side at least i got the carmack shaders mod

[still lily]

i wanna change that. At least try too.. with the tiny crew i have helping me

[halcyon bear]

Talking about snapmap makes me sad because they tossed it away. Just makes me depressed

[still lily]

doom eternal modding would be insane if it had snapmap

all the tools they got

im jealous

a guy in the snapmap server is trying to make a tool that converts textures to be usable in 2016

so we'll have that at least

[halcyon bear]

I did want to check out a custom caco I saw that has area effect damage. Any idea if that was ever finished?

[still lily]

the mod itself? No. The enemy? Seems so. the guy who made that, Toyota is actually helping a ton with snapmap modding

i plan on adding his custom demons to the modded campaign

[halcyon bear]

Yeah he makes some good stuff. Love the snapmap community

Legends

[still lily]

He's more in line with campaign modding. just randomly decided to help

chad

but yeah i have no idea why id doesnt make modding more of a priority

thats how you keep all ur games alive for decades

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/593535108015718450/1064263355512127488/Project_01-15_HD_720p_MEDIUM_FR30.mp4

[halcyon bear]

Most likely because the fat cats think that'll cause th next game to make less money

[still lily]

well... L then. imma mod tf outta 2016 and todd or whatever Bethesda/Id director cant stop me

[winter stream]

Not sure if one could track that the rune trial was previously completed on another save, but just granting access to the rune outright on interaction with a rune trial stone seems very doable.

[still lily]

huh that modding server should have mod requests or something. idk. maybe get people interested again.

[stoic arch]

yeah thats what i thought i could find somewhere (the latter)

[molten mango]

hello, I am looking for 2 players for the multiplayer. I'm on xbox, if there are french? thanks

[opaque quiver]

I'm doubtful that would be able to run it even at low

[halcyon bear]

It's using Id tech 6 so I doubt you'll get a good performance

Metal gear makes sense. I'm sure it was optimized for lower hardware

[atomic horizon]

Get Quake and stick the Slayer’s Testaments mod to it.

[prisma herald]

idk if im too late but i guess you could install the demo for doom 2016 and see how it goes

[snow heron]

ACTUAL MOD SUPPORT FOR THE NEXT ID GAME PLEASE

Whether it's Doom or Quake idc just give us full fledged mod support

Modding tools a SDK, maybe even Steam Workshop support for the PC users

That would be absolutely incredible

Would be great if idTech 8 (assuming thats what there working on rn) had these features

[still lily]

snapmap + mod support = better than WADs

[snow heron]

idk about that there are some incredible WADs out there

could definitely see it being on par with WADs

[still lily]

not graphics wise

lmao

[snow heron]

well yeah of course not. Graphics aren't really everything though. There important to a degree but not everything

[still lily]

doom 6 needs to be the last doom for awhile with tons of post launch support and modding, etc

[still lily]

but if the capablities are near equal then its just better wads

[snow heron]

debatable

[still lily]

idk im not a classic doom fan myself, its clunky imo

i respect it but not my jam

thats why im begging for modern mod support

[snow heron]

It's not the most perfect game in the world yeah but I still find it fun

Considering how a lot of id's games have such a huge thing for mods and fanmade content I really hope they bring a good modding/mapping tool back.

[still lily]

my fav part of it is classic caco demon and some funny one off mods for it

[snow heron]

The sprite work is pretty good honestly

[still lily]

classic caco is peak design perhaps in all of gaming

[winter stream]

What is the best wad ever made

[still lily]

it has 2 buttholes

[snow heron]

me when astral dreadnought

[still lily]

does that have 2 buttholes

[snow heron]

I haven't played a ton of the more popular brutally difficult WADs but one I really enjoyed was Pirate Doom

[snow heron]

the cacodemon is literally just the dreadnoughts head lol. So maybe

[still lily]

actually yeah i need to ask what is like, some of the best wads ever made

[snow heron]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926326228280025098/1064346698995990528/tumblr_inline_p9hqpzoSms1r0zz7o_500.png

[still lily]

#classic-doom-maps-mods ig

[still lily]

cacoroided

[winter stream]

yeah cause whenever I hear about good wads, all I see is just more doom levels

[snow heron]

Pirate Doom, Valiant, and BTSX are among my favorites

great sprites and overall fun level design

[winter stream]

ig I just expected more full conversion stuff (which I know are a thing), meanwhile I'm working on a survival craft game set on a floating iceberg using snapmap

[still lily]

mannnn idk. actual snapmap modding (file changes) looks promising af

just needs aloooot of work

since we arent modding 23 yo pixel game

[regal saddle]

finish doom 16 campaign

the soundtrack is fire

[still lily]

mhm

[winter stream]

The only wad I've seen that's impressed me is sonic roboblast 2

[still lily]

no ew thats ugly

caco is cute

[regal saddle]

cacos butthole

[chilly cargo]

Man don't make me

[still lily]

cocodeemen

[clever sparrow]

If they ever made a Doom 2016 movie Tilda Swinton would probably be a great choice to play Olivia Pierce

[halcyon bear]

Honestly feels like they created Olivia based on her loll

[clever sparrow]

the trivia section on her wiki article doesn't say anything regarding it so it might have to come from a dev lol

[civic hound]

Is there LFGs for the multiplayer?

[noble moat]

If you use the search bar above. In this channel. Select this channel. And type any of the commonly used words for multiplayer or looking for a lobby you can find numerous people here who has asked for a lobby but dont have the ability to search for other members to play with

Once you find the ones stating the platform they use ping them in this channel

[half otter]

BFG-9000 = Big fucking gun 9000

[fast oar]

For those who like multiplayer 2016: Who like to join at 8:00 PM CET today? (about 10 hours from now) Gaming on Playstation and PSN is same as Discord, also gonna stream this gamesession. We have a group of fanatic players who aren't toxic. When we have enough players we go in private matches and it's of course all for the fun. Be free to send me a friendrequest on PS so I can add you simple to our group. See you there!

[clear pawn]

Sooo! Was Doom 2016 renamed to just Doom in the Steam Library?

[elder meadow]

i mean it never was called Doom 2016

It was just called “Doom”

we only call it that way to not confuse people with Doom 1993

Cod: Modern warfare 2 goes through the same issue

[clear pawn]

I never called Doom - Doom 1993 😉
But they did rename it?

[elder meadow]

no

[clear pawn]

In the Steam Library i meant.

I could swear it was Doom and Doom II and Doom 3 and Doom (2016) and Doom Eternal.

Now it's Doom and Doom 1993.

[still lily]

lowkey was pretty stupid to just call it doom

doom 4 would've been much more uhhh idk not bad

[karmic ore]

Yeah it just made it confusing

Or we could just call it doom 1

[clear pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tonight-doom-gif-19873326

[atomic horizon]

DOOM (1993) was “The Ultimate DOOM”.

[marble tide]

yes

[atomic horizon]

But DOOM (2016) has been always simply DOOM.

I feel like they should also include the year in that one for consistency.

Today the “Ultimate” name of The Ultimate DOOM is confined to the original IWAD shipped within the game…aka. the DOSBox version that you can use in source ports.

[karmic ore]

lets just call it doom 1

yeah

yup

or you could call it doom 4

what

[wraith tangle]

The original IWAD is not ultimate doom. Ultimate doom refers to the version of doom1 with 4 episodes(thy flesh consumed being the one of note here) released for retail after doom2 as opposed to the original doom that was released with only 3 and not for retail(ie in stores). Also, the IWAD itself isn't "for dosbox". It's just a file that can run in dosbox or a sourceport. Like when you use a source port, you aren't running the dosbox version of anything

[karmic ore]

its the 4th doom game

okay

[wraith tangle]

It also isn't the 4th doom game since doomrpg exists and doom64 exists. Another doom game with a dumb naming convention which some people thought implied that it was a port of doom to the N64 as opposed to what it actually was, its own game

[karmic ore]

those arent canon tho

[wraith tangle]

So

[karmic ore]

they arent in the main line entries

doom 64 wasnt even made by id software

[wraith tangle]

At least it was under their supervision.

[karmic ore]

well yeah

[wraith tangle]

Whatever "id" is, the team that oversaw Midway's work on d64 was more of the original team than doom Eternal

[karmic ore]

oh

really

[wraith tangle]

It's not like the original team of John Carmack, Adrian Carmack, John Romero, Sandy Peterson, Tom Hall and Bobby Prince have anything to do with doom2016 or Doom eternal

[karmic ore]

what they didn't?

[wraith tangle]

Correct. Most of the original team left after Quake 1 in the 90s. Even John Carmack left far before doom2016. It's just a company that was bought be zenimax(owner of bethesda) now. While Hugo Martin and co(the current devs) seem to have respect for the ideas of the original team, they are different people.

Categorization will always be a fuzzy topic. What media counts as part of the series? What media counts as a mainline part of the series? Is romero's sigil official because he made the maingame but isn't releasing it as an agent of id software? I would say no. Is doom3 official even though most of the team had left by then? I'd say yes. But they're all doom games.

[still lily]

less stupid than doom (literally a fucking year)

yeah halo 2004 is my favorite one

[atomic horizon]

halo RTS?

[elder meadow]

i mean ya it technically counts as a series depending on who owns the IP and who the newly executives choose what is considered because they own the IP as a whole

Not to mention the Marketing for Doom as a whole consider itself as a franchise

The franchise “bundle” on steam contains Doom 1993, 2, 3, 64, 2016, and Eternal

If doom was bought by another company its also in their right to Un-categorize older titles as no longer significant even if it breaks all logic entirely

Doom 3 is probably the only Fuzzy one because of where it fits in the canon lore.

[wraith tangle]

literally who cares about canon?

Maybe the devs for idk, last of us buy id and say that doom is in the same universe, just in the future. That wouldnt make the last of us a doom game. Maybe some doom games are reboots or different stories. They are still doom games. And I reject letting a company just choose that the games don't count anymore. The company that owns an IP isn't the god arbiter of how that content is categorized. If disney wants to say that only the movies are canon for their films and future content they make, great. But extended universe stuff is still star wars material even if it isn't in disney's timeline

[elder meadow]

doesnt have to make sense. its more so thats where the franchiseofficially is headed and u dont have to believe it but it technically is in your own head canon and not at all “official” and should be believed to the majority fans as legit

I dont want the Sequals to star wars canon but they are.

[wraith tangle]

Canonicity and broad inclusion as that "type" of media aren't the same is my point (especially since there can be multiple canons like zelda)

[elder meadow]

thats true but majority of games like to keep 1 interpretation at least the “main” attraction

Because it causes confusion

hi pplz

[elder meadow]

also canonicity is important because it stands as a foundation for where our theories can lie ahead even if they are disproven

[noble moat]

Is also easier to understand what counts or doesn’t

In Zelda’s case it can throw tons of new stuff and yet be it’s own thing

In dooms case throwing in tons of new concepts makes you reevaluate all the lore so far, whether it works or not

[wraith tangle]

I meant that canon doesn't matter in terms of what counts as a doom game, not that you shouldn't care about it at all. While I'm not super into lore or fan theories or what have you, the existence of canon definitely helps a narrative exist.

[still lily]

the doomies are gonna wreck u for this one 💀

they cannot accept that doom has and always will have huge plotholes and be nonsensical even though thats whats fun about its story

[halcyon bear]

The doomies

[elder meadow]

so what. Is every Fan game of five nights at freddy's canon even if they are not under the brand

What counts as a Doom game depends on the Permission the people who developed the game had to actually consider it one. Contracts signed, Marketing, is it under the Doom Franchise brand itself

if u make a game just has doom guy and its gameplay, its a Fan-game

[wraith tangle]

Yeah when we're talking about official games. But they can't retroactively make it an unofficial game. Nintendo can't come out and say that Super Mario bros 3 is no longer a mario game

[elder meadow]

ya no they cant then u are correct

[wraith tangle]

Think that's decent enough agreement lamo

[proven lark]

I just bought doom 2016 and then beat it in 2 days

I didn’t realize it was that’s short lol

[halcyon bear]

Time flies when you're having fun

[proven lark]

Fr

[still lily]

2016 was definitely a great reboot. i could only imagine how scary it is and ballsy to "reboot" a 25+ yo popular game franchise. at least they did it well.

[slim pebble]

BTW @snow heron when I said floating objects I was talking about props and corpses floating when you shoot them

[true rain]

DOOM 2016 is cheap on fanatical.com

[still lily]

tf is that

[stoic arch]

as someone whose favorite game used to be doom 3, doom2016 was the perfect middle ground because it gave me the doom 3 atmosphere/tone but also gave back the fast paced action that the people wanted

the doom 3 atmosphere/tone at least if you play at 0.7-0.9 gamma like i do

too bad betruger floors olivia

and hayden is chairman rose (pokemon gen 8 anyone?) done right

[snow heron]

That’s weird

[tight plank]

i cant find some of the collectibles, but i dont know which levels since i dont remeber

can anyone tell me the locations of them??

dm me if you see this late

[wraith tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7376qhz5qk this channel has every level

[dull trail]

Yo anyone want tot play free for all on doom 2016 if so join in im on ps5

[still lily]

i have a favor to ask to anyone on xbox willing to take a screenshot for me of a snapmap

[elder meadow]

sure

@dull trail

add me psn rockmanjl

[elder meadow]

Anyone want to hop on multiplayer on switch???

[elder meadow]

does the game let me go back and find secrets/tokens after i complete it? im on the last lvl i think

[snow heron]

Yes you can replay levels to get stuff you missed

[elder meadow]

ok thanks

[crystal rivet]

Just finished my first 100 percent run on nightmare

goddamn that shit was difficult lmao

[eternal plover]

Congrats Soulless!! I managed to complete UAC on UN mode and that was...interesting to say the least. The method of sneaking around rather than going in full-throttle had to be used

Question: Are any community members available to help with platinum'ing/100%'ing the multiplayer achievements?
Currently sitting at 20 achievement(s), most are just armor equipping during a match and taunting.
The few remaining at "get a multi-kill with x demon or weapon"

||Tenderizing the Crops
Marked for Death
Motion in the Explosion
Sitting Duck
Computing with Style
Eat Your Vitamins
Reaping all the Benefits
Beauty is Pain
Bowling for Gibs
Fashion Fanatic
Insult to Injury
On Track
A Memorable Performance
Slotted for Success||

[still lily]

sneaking around? nahhh. you didnt beat UN then

[ornate knot]

i unlocked a few classic levels (i know because i played them a few months ago) but coming back to the game i dont remember how to access them

can anyone help?

Nvm I’m blind lol

[halcyon bear]

Never heard sneaking around before. That's a new one

[crystal rivet]

Considering how many times i've played that level to do performance tests on systems I build, I think i'd do alright on UN without sneakin around

unless it plays different to NM

[halcyon bear]

Well sneaking isn't really possible unless that person means speed running

You cant just avoid combat situations. Especially in the introduction

[crystal rivet]

ah is ee

*i see

[halcyon bear]

https://youtu.be/4heGDL7zQ7I

[still lily]

not 2016

L

[halcyon bear]

Literally is

Poor man's 2016

[elder meadow]

Just beat the cyberdemon and won't lie... kinda easy...

there was a big fight around the helix stone right before in the same level and that one was a lot more difficult

[next tangle]

I'm trying to figure out if it's worth to learn quick switch

[halcyon bear]

Switching quickly is a must. Dps quick switching isn't but it'll make your life easier

[next tangle]

Alright.

Would be fun to learn that when your controller has severe stick drift and a new one costs 60 euro

[vestal tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-pupcfBsdw better than the soundtrack

[elder meadow]

on ps4 i earned all the runes but the trophy didnt pop what do i do?

[halcyon bear]

You need to start a fresh file and redo the challenge

Just the one that was supposed to unlock it can work sometimes

[elder meadow]

ok thanks

[snow heron]

Not really

[dusk crypt]

anybody know the easiest way to get rid of those pinky demons-

[cunning tree]

If they're far away I like to remote det kill them, if they dash I double jump over them and just dump damage in the back

[dusk crypt]

tyyy

[elder meadow]

@halcyon bear i wonder why they dont patch it this game is like 7 yrs old now

older than my nephew hehe

[halcyon bear]

True haha

[snow heron]

If you have air control rune and double jump it’s super easy to just hop over them to hit there tails

That or one fully charged Siege Mode blast will kill them

[silver trout]

Doom 1993 is my fav doom game cuz of how it made most of my pre teen years and now is going to make most of my teen years

[hollow hound]

Ayo everyone! I have been experiencing a connection issue for a while now, I just wiped the switch and sd card, re installed it and no luck still, anyone have an idea

I used to play multiplayer without problems back in 2019 and stop playing ever since

[silver trout]

Jus stop playin multiplayer lol

[hollow hound]

so I dont know if this due to inactivity but I reinstalled it previously and nothing, so I did a clean start with switch and sd card too and nothing

[hollow hound]

that doesnt help lol

[silver trout]

Doom eternal multiplayer below is dead, like dead dead

[hollow hound]

is not just multiplayer being affected, any connectivity to the server also, so none of the hyperlinks work, hence if I click on slayers club it says the page cant be displayed

[silver trout]

Shit

That’s actually a problem

[hollow hound]

gotcha good to know that

yeah it sucks

I have done all the tech troubleshooting, I am tech so its beyond of me now as a consumer, has to escalated to L3 now lol

any input is greatly appreciated! I love this game, is actually the only one I played in the past 15 years lol

[runic solstice]

@hollow hound play on European servers

Thats how I got the trophies

[still lily]

who asked in 2016 chat tho

[autumn coral]

Every time I start up doom it craches

[still lily]

verify game files, reinstall if that doesnt work, change launch options, did you fuck with the files at all?

[slate heron]

Hey I joined this server for this specific question, but does anyone know anything about multiplayer in 2016 not working? I tried playing private matches with my friends and it would kick us then public matches and it would take us out of the lobby right before the game started. The only thing that works properly is snap map

I’m on ps5 btw

[fast oar]

Try another region, maybe that helps

[slate heron]

Idk I have friends on Xbox and pc that live in different regions that are going through the same thing

Also don’t know how to do

[queen kayak]

google it

[fast oar]

Before you make a party you can choose region , its in the middle below your screen as option

[slate heron]

I did and I can’t find anything about it. Even made a Reddit post with ppl saying it’s happening to them too

[queen kayak]

oh

[slate heron]

Is that gonna mess up my internet even more lol

[fast oar]

No it doesn't affect your internet at all but maybe the connection will be better

[slate heron]

Ok I’ll try later I just bought eternal😎

[finite isle]

anyone wanna grind sector on asia servers?

playing on ps4 btw

[fast oar]

Great game! Also good multiplayer but totally different, have fun!

[elder meadow]

I just finished it (pc) (hmp)
Loved it
At first it took me a bit to get used to. I've never played a game that moves so fast it almost made me motionsick
But I got used to it and loved it. Like a bullet hell shmup in fps format.
But is there no post game? No lost levels or anything? Just replay on nightmare and buy eternal huh.

[fast oar]

Arcade maybe?

[still lily]

snapmap... cough

[unborn delta]

i managed to run this game on an i3 10110u on integrated graphics

its playable

and looks good enough

[elder meadow]

jokes on you, I hate people

[still lily]

all the more reason to kill them in MP 🙂

[snow heron]

God I wish Arcade mode stayed for Eternal

[still lily]

eternal casually removing all the cool extra modes for no reason lmao

[halcyon bear]

Snapmap is where it's at. People still putting out great snapmap content

[snow heron]

The modded SnapMap stuff looks incredible as well

What’s it called? It’s like SnapHak or something right?

[halcyon bear]

I wasn't even aware of modded snapmap. Neat

[winter stream]

kinda. There's full-on modding that's PC only, and then there's snapHak which makes modified maps that work on all platforms because it just uses assets already in the game.

[still lily]

actual modded snapmap has barely been explored for some reason. but my lord. the potential is insane.

why is slowmode 5 seconds here but 10 seconds on #d2016-modding ??

makes me barely upload there.

not like these channels are getting flooded lmao

[finite isle]

hosting a boosting session on ps4/ps5, dm me if you wanna join

[graceful sedge]

Yo

Hi

Guys

No one yep

Plz

[finite isle]

?

[still lily]

ok

[elder meadow]

is there a way to play with bots in multiplayer?

[winter stream]

practice mode, but you can't get any mp achievements that way.

[hollow hound]

I couldn’t find where to set the server on switch, anyone?

[hollow hound]

I’m on switch and couldn’t played multiplayer since 2019 that I stopped using the game, still no luck

[slate heron]

The shitty thing is that it was just fine like a week ago, I could get into and play matches but now it’s a no go

[hollow hound]

It stopped working for since I tried to play it again in 2021 so you were lucky

I’ve tried reinstalling it, nothing, restored switch and sd card, unliked account, nothing still

[elder meadow]

trying to get the achievements where you turn into a demon but i can never get the power up

[elder meadow]

berserker appears prob on the last level i think?

no i mean the dlc

ah mb

[languid lance]

Hola

[runic solstice]

Wait

When tf was Doom 2016 on Switch💀💀💀

[snow heron]

Since like 2017

[runic solstice]

Woah

[vagrant sierra]

Ayo what