Of doom
#doom-3
honest lynx
half plank
name a single doom pistol that was good
slate gulch
Was based on blade runner and is based
half plank
like worth using over any other weapon
slate gulch
Doom Eternals pistol was so bad they cut it
half plank
your argument is flawed, none of them are good
scenic stratus
2016 pistol sucks, doom2 was ok i guess but id rather use every other weapon when i have it
half plank
oh youre one of those
scenic stratus
oh youre one of those
slate gulch
No one hated this game when it came out in 2004. I just don't it. I remember very clearly what people thought of it
scenic stratus
No one hated this game when it came out in 2004. I just don't it. I remember ver...
I wasnt around 2004
half plank
or you know, you could not use hacks at all? 
honest lynx
No one hated this game when it came out in 2004. I just don't it. I remember ver...
Same it was loved by every real doom fan. People were hyped for it. On every game cover
half plank
Young or old, all who love Doom 3 are welcome.
slate gulch
I once stayed in the spawn area with noclip being a chainsaw ghost
teal apex
scenic stratus
Oof
slate gulch
Same it was loved by every real doom fan. People were hyped for it. On every gam...
It reminds me of the pokemon XY problem. No one from pokemania would dismiss mega evolution as stupid. I know they weren't there.
teal apex
I am aware yes
scenic stratus
I am aware yes
Its probably the oofs
half plank
its nice you like doom, thats cool, but youre too young man.
too young for discord and shit
honest lynx
It reminds me of the pokemon XY problem. No one from pokemania would dismiss meg...
Literally slept next to my box of doom 3 as a kid collected every magazine. Online multiplayer was packed every day after school. You could play non stop. It was loved
teal apex
Give it at least 6 years until your brain is ruined forever
scenic stratus
Literally slept next to my box of doom 3 as a kid collected every magazine. Onli...
I knew you were a collector
scenic stratus
Literally slept next to my box of doom 3 as a kid collected every magazine. Onli...
Respect
honest lynx
Respect<:doomguy_god_hd:364055441392795648>
Well thanks. I actually have a doom room
slate gulch
Literally slept next to my box of doom 3 as a kid collected every magazine. Onli...
My half brothers dad got it, made me play some it. I heard a grown man screaming in the middle of the night, but the game 'wasn't scary'
scenic stratus
Well thanks. I actually have a doom room
Really cool
honest lynx
Honestly I still remember my first reaction to the bathroom scene with the lights off. Just one of those things
slate gulch
Never
little raven
Just lame people
slate gulch
Wipe off your feet for you tread on holy ground
scenic stratus
Im starting to think that everyone who hates doom 3 never played the game
little raven
Well all his message just vanished
honest lynx
Well hes a little boy. Little kids have shit taste for the most part. Cant blame him. Blame his parents
teal apex
Im starting to think that everyone who hates doom 3 never played the game
I have booted up doom 3 once to get the red marine skin and i can confidently say this game is worse than getting a disease
little raven
Maybe you shouldnt say your 7 on a platform that says you have to be 13 and uo
honest lynx
Yeah hes ded
slate gulch
Booted once. Not even finishes. Starving children could have eaten that run.
honest lynx
And he played all of doom 3 in 2 days obviously. He was a prodigy and we lost him
teal apex
Shouldve muted them for 6 years
versed estuary
Too much work
slate gulch
I'm shocked the BFG achievement is under 10 hours. Never taken more than 6
I finish an almost distressing amount of shooters on steam in 7 hours
half plank
Little kids being banned is a positive, fucked up shit on this platform.
scenic stratus
Doom 3 felt like half life all over again
little raven
Doom 3 felt like half life all over again
Except its good
honest lynx
I'm shocked the BFG achievement is under 10 hours. Never taken more than 6
I beat the game in 4 that's my record so far. I can do better
scenic stratus
Except its good
And theres a LOT of foreshadowing
half plank
I beat the game in 4 that's my record so far. I can do better
I beat BFG Edition in around 4 hours too
honest lynx
Maybe 3
little raven
Ive tried half life
Its a slog with nothing but door fighting
half plank
Yeah, I have no clue why its so beloved, but people probably feel the same way about us and this weird "dark and slow" game.
honest lynx
I dont like half life but I don't want to hate to much on it.
Dont get the appeal though
half plank
It isn't a bad game I don't think, just not really something I enjoyed.
honest lynx
But I played it on like ps3 or 2 so yeah what do I know
slate gulch
Goldsrc was once the new hotness
scenic stratus
If doom 3 has one of the best ssg's
But every ssg in a doom game is good
slate gulch
I did Black Mesa on Hard when it was in final beta
I've done the entire half life series on Hard.
half plank
I have booted up doom 3 once to get the red marine skin and i can confidently sa...
you were the chosen one
honest lynx
I've done the entire half life series on Hard.
And how is it ?
scenic stratus
It isn't a bad game I don't think, just not really something I enjoyed.
Same but i loved it
slate gulch
And how is it ?
Imagine something so beautiful that you get lost in it, and then the ending never comes
scenic stratus
Imagine something so beautiful that you get lost in it, and then the ending neve...
Including half life alyx?
honest lynx
That sounds sad
scenic stratus
Episode 2 was released in 2007.
Half life 3 in the next century maybe
slate gulch
Now Alyx implies episode 2m3 is happening and gave me hope
scenic stratus
I just hope so
slate gulch
This after even the writer gave in and leaked the plot
scenic stratus
Valve cant count to 3 and id makes the third game different
slate gulch
Its because of Half Life 2 that Doom 3 is reduced to this. They were the same year.
scenic stratus
Its because of Half Life 2 that Doom 3 is reduced to this. They were the same ye...
True
versed estuary
Unpopular opinion
The first 2 half life games are overrated as hell and incredibly boring
slate gulch
No
scenic stratus
Unpopular opinion
The first 2 half life games are overrated as hell and incredi...
No
scenic stratus
Half life 2 is incredible
Its still my favorite game
Tis coming from me, a man with surprisingly low standards
slate gulch
Half Life solidified the alien invasion by having actual scenes
Where you were still in control
People talked and not everyone was an enemy.
half plank
My favorite games are all either slightly obscure or older than the Fortnite fanbase by a mile
scenic stratus
Fun fact i havent played a game released after 2007
slate gulch
Blood joined the ranks of my soul last year. That game is after my own heart
scenic stratus
Blood joined the ranks of my soul last year. That game is after my own heart
Open for business
half plank
"I like my hands bloody"
slate gulch
I did everything, expansions too, on Lightly Broiled. And I know enough to know that means sonething.
scenic stratus
"They will be needing more of these"
slate gulch
"On the good ship Lollipop... damn forgot the lines"
"I'm gonna paint the town reeed"
half plank
I've done that too, and Well Done, and like 15% of it on Extra Crispy. It's safe to say I'm a bit of a Blood fan.
scenic stratus
"Everybody loves somebody somtimes not me baby"
half plank
slate gulch
I got able to play on Well Done and the first level on Extra Crispy
scenic stratus
<:doomguy_wicked:242284398458830848>
I dont understand how someone can beat blood on extra crispy
half plank
by gitting gud
scenic stratus
I got able to play on Well Done and the first level on Extra Crispy
Beat e1 on well done
slate gulch
You have to go beyond get gud
half plank
I did e1 on extra crispy, fucking TWO Cheoghs
slate gulch
You have to live... again
scenic stratus
You have to live... again
Not for long
slate gulch
"And if you miss this secret you obviously weren't paying attention because the demo shows you."
scenic stratus
"And if you miss this secret you obviously weren't paying attention because the ...
Yeah i saw on the demo too
But the demo didnt show the other seceet
half plank
Blood on Extra Crispy's hard so far, but I've seen worse, don't know what the hype's about.
slate gulch
I watched the shot out of civvies Blood videos
Its that Extra Crispy was made for co op and has no mercy for singleplayer
half plank
Keep in mind, I've only done e1 and like 4 of e2's maps on crispy, sooo..
slate gulch
It is Blood's Solo Net
half plank
take my claims with a grain of salt, lol
slate gulch
And unlike Doom Blood doesn't give a shit you're not actually in multiplayer
scenic stratus
take my claims with a grain of salt, lol
I beleive because i feel like its true
slate gulch
Have you dobe Post Mortem on Well Done or Extra Crispy
half plank
No
scenic stratus
Have you dobe Post Mortem on Well Done or Extra Crispy
How
half plank
well done yes, extra crispy no
scenic stratus
I liked the mall section
half plank
mall of the dead, fun map
scenic stratus
God the screams of the cultists are so good to hear
half plank
aaaAAAAHHH
acoustic kayakBOT
Hi, @scenic stratus.
scenic stratus
Maranax, Pallex
Hell ye
slate gulch
Crudux Cruo!
slate gulch
It burns it burns down aaaaugh
scenic stratus
It burns it burns down aaaaugh
Lmao at first i didnt know how to use the flare gun
slate gulch
I didn't know the pitchfork had four hitboxes
scenic stratus
You hit a zombie and a cultist once and they're fate is sealed
scenic stratus
I didn't know the pitchfork had four hitboxes
Its like a shotgun
slate gulch
Not on Well Done for zombies. You have to help the
scenic stratus
Not on Well Done for zombies. You have to help the
With a pitchfork
slate gulch
On Extra Crispy you may need two anyway
I like how Extra Crispy puts a bat in the first room. Thanks.
scenic stratus
Whats blood's shotgun called
slate gulch
Things are stupid hard to hit and can barely attack
scenic stratus
Things are stupid hard to hit and can barely attack
The other flying things what are they
Garghoyles?
half plank
Whats blood's shotgun called
the sawed-off
slate gulch
Flesh and Stone Gargoyles
scenic stratus
the sawed-off
Ah the animations are so good
slate gulch
By the way generic stone gargoyles have more health than Cheogh
half plank
my favorite fps double barrel
slate gulch
Its based on a Rossi Overland
honest lynx
Betruger says get out of here. Go to general where your soul will burn in hell forever
mental gulch
Doom 3 really do be my favorite doom game
stable lake
gotta get that cancelled DOOM 4 sequel to DOOM 3
errant hornet
it was probably a reboot
errant hornet
huh-
probably.. i suppose the concept art and gameplay prototype wasnt like doom 3
versed estuary
Well yeah, because the game now took place on earth
Which was what doom 3 said was going to happen
jaunty turret
Making progress marine?
slate gulch
My favorite laugh is the one that comes after the door monster, when the skeleton moves in the vent. Found it once in the audio files but can never find it now
scenic stratus
Making progress marine?
Your journey is futile.
scenic stratus
and I've just played Communication level. my journey was futile indeed.
jaunty turret
At the haunted mansion level
scenic stratus
I don't play eternal. Sold my PS4 Pro.
jaunty turret
I'm joking
scenic stratus
I quickly finished eternal. it's freaky.
jaunty turret
Bro that's a long game
scenic stratus
When I play DooM 3 I suffer. And finishing at least 1 level is a torture.
If I were in circumstances like DooM 3 I'd commit suicide immediately.
I'm not going to sleep well now.
jade pagoda
It is but it's a different genre from what doom was known for
versed estuary
But it’s not good as a doom game
“How is it a doom game.”
On the title, “doom 3”
half plank
its an fps game where you shoot demons, stop hell, and play as a marine, I don't see how it's not a Doom game
it's not even that slow if you know what youre doing
slate gulch
This is like calling Zelda 2 bad tiers of nonsense
They made exactly what they wanted to and everything in it was intentional.
honest lynx
I wonder if zelda fans hate on eachother and have factions because some games tried something new
I feel like the answer is no
restive token
In my honest oppinion doom 3 is more of a horror game than an action game
half plank
It's almost like, they designed it that way.
scenic stratus
doom 3 good 
half plank
I wonder if zelda fans hate on eachother and have factions because some games tr...
Majora's Mask fans beating up everyone else for enjoying inferior games.
slate gulch
Majors Mask 3D was a trip
half plank
100%'d both versions, I prefer the n64 one, but 3D was still good.
slate gulch
Wish it had a Master Mode like Ocarina of Time 3D. Some of those puzzles were mind bending
half plank
The finale is probably my favorite in any Zelda game, it's just so, bizzarre, almost all the other games have you in a giant castle or something. I just like MM for how unique and strange it is. I could care less about Ganon coming back for the 12th time in a month.
honest lynx
Majora's Mask fans beating up everyone else for enjoying inferior games. <:doomg...
In what universe did that happen
half plank
none, but it could happen, just you wait
scenic stratus
grave dock
So I did the glitch where you kill the guy and get the bfg in alpha labs 1 and then got an ammo pack thats supposed to give ammo for all guns but it didnt give me any bfg cells
scenic stratus
So I did the glitch where you kill the guy and get the bfg in alpha labs 1 and t...
i think its supposed to be that way
grave dock
I just found it weird because the it specifically says bfg cell on the list with all the ammo types
scenic stratus
I just found it weird because the it specifically says bfg cell on the list with...
ohh
scenic stratus
So I did the glitch where you kill the guy and get the bfg in alpha labs 1 and t...
cool you have to be really fast in order to pull that one off
grave dock
Yeah, In the room that blows up if you shoot the blue things with the maggot enemies you have to sprint and kill 2 maggots so the door unlocks and get into the hallway and shoot the guy before he turns the corner.
scenic stratus
Yeah, In the room that blows up if you shoot the blue things with the maggot ene...
did you do it on bfg edition?
scenic stratus
vanilla might be impossible as it is slower than bfg edition
i did it on vanilla but with a pm_walkspeed command
snow ravine
Have you guys tried Doom 3 in VR? Was thinking about streaming it
honest lynx
vanilla might be impossible as it is slower than bfg edition
I'm here to kick gum and chew ass and I'm all out of ass
scenic stratus
I'm here to kick gum and chew ass and I'm all out of ass
Dick Kickem
man out of all the doom games doom 3 was the one that i enjoy the most
it will probably change when i get my hands on the modern games
honest lynx
Dude. I've been playing doom since I wasnt allowed to play and had to watch my bro play shareware. Doom 3 is special
Always
scenic stratus
i remember being so desperate to play something on my old pc and then accidentally finding doom 3 and halo:ce on my dads folder
slate gulch
We had a dinosaur PC with Windows ME and no internet. The library for some reason had Quake 2
scenic stratus
We had a dinosaur PC with Windows ME and no internet. The library for some reaso...
cool
slate gulch
I played without sound until I got a boombox plugged to it, then because the cd was long returned no music
scenic stratus
think i had the gta trilogy
and max payne built-in
slate gulch
It wasn't until getting a source port on steam that I heard Quake 2s music
scenic stratus
It wasn't until getting a source port on steam that I heard Quake 2s music
i had the music but for some reason it doesnt loop
i always felt sad when the music stopped
slate gulch
To think Doom 3 makes a joke about Quake 45 when the series is dead and the tomb was desecrated
teal apex
i had the music but for some reason it doesnt loop
i always felt sad when the mu...
I had this with a pirated copy of megaman x4, weird af
teal apex
To think Doom 3 makes a joke about Quake 45 when the series is dead and the tomb...
We actually get yearly quake releases starting 2021
scenic stratus
is quake 4 and doom3 on the same engine?
slate gulch
Quake Champions got my hope up and then twisted a knife in my heart when I saw what it was
scenic stratus
Quake Champions got my hope up and then twisted a knife in my heart when I saw w...
ouch is it that bad?
slate gulch
Its a damn hero shooter without any singleplayer campaign, using Ranger as a set piece
scenic stratus
the first multiplayer game i played was unreal
i remember my sister watching me play it
scenic stratus
Its a damn hero shooter without any singleplayer campaign, using Ranger as a set...
ah like quake 3?
slate gulch
Quake 3 started the problem, too
scenic stratus
is quake 4 good?
slate gulch
Yes
teal apex
There was a 4th?
scenic stratus
There was a 4th?
yeah a sequel to the second
slate gulch
It was made by Raven in Doom 3s engine
scenic stratus
It was made by Raven in Doom 3s engine
raven makes good games
teal apex
Ok now that seems like something i gotta see
slate gulch
Do black plague
teal apex
No
slate gulch
It's way better than Dooms nightmare
There aren't any hitscanners and nothing respawns, but you get 50% more ammo
Honestly I think only Strife ever did respawning but only certain enemies do it
oh man what if Doom 3 had respawning
scenic stratus
Do black plague
thats what i play on
slate gulch
I cant remember if I finished it on it, because I get it mixed up with when I did with Trailblazer and when I used the Quake weapons mod
I vaguely remember a Doom 3 mod that let you use enemy projectiles
scenic stratus
I cant remember if I finished it on it, because I get it mixed up with when I di...
trailblazer is compatible with heretic?
slate gulch
Its compatible with Hexen too I'm pretty sure
scenic stratus
thats really cool
one of my favorite mods
little raven
Doom 3 is on ps3
Huh learn something new every day
versed estuary
Terraria will net you more hours in total
polar ginkgo
Doom 3 is on ps3
Huh learn something new every day
the bfg edition
normal doom 3 isn't
i may buy doom 3 just by the main menu theme
half plank
play doom 3
scenic stratus
i may buy doom 3 just by the main menu theme
sonic warren
fair cloak
wrong channel, i may be stupid
loud fog
Death to doom 3 bfg edition
scenic stratus
My face after washing it after killing doom 3 bfg edition
lmao
scenic stratus
when bfg edition
half plank
bfg edition vs original edition gang war
errant hornet
i love playing the original
half plank
so youve chosen sides?
errant hornet
bfg edition is alright but the game having bright textures and the flashlight being attached in the suit.. it kinda ruins the gameplay design and the horror atmosphere of the game..
low wren
bfg edition sucks and doesn't have mod support when doom 3 has great mods
errant hornet
i was about to say that
half plank
The truth has been exposed once more.
errant hornet
also DHEWM3 source port is much better way to play doom 3 on modern pcs
i prefer the source port over bfg edition
errant hornet
thats the bitter truth but people who wanna experience the vanilla game then its the best possible way-
half plank
100%, just wish the Lost Mission mod worked with it
honest lynx
Bfg edition has the best nightmare mode
half plank
no
clearly the xbox original version does
The BFG Edition makes nightmare easier, and that's no good.
honest lynx
Makes it faster paced. That's why I prefer it
Dont have time for stupid flashlights with 25 health
half plank
Makes it faster paced. That's why I prefer it
honest lynx
But you cant slow mo bonk half baby demons so it loses points there
scenic stratus
100%, just wish the Lost Mission mod worked with it
same
scenic stratus
bfg edition is alright but the game having bright textures and the flashlight be...
agree
scenic stratus
bfg edition sucks and doesn't have mod support when doom 3 has great mods
agree
the only good thing BFG brings is widescreen support and nothing else
low wren
i just sprint jump constantly everywhere in doom 3 anyways so BFG's speed boost i didn't really notice
errant hornet
doom 3 is the one game which you appreciate more the more it ages. its kinda the black sheep of the franchise but i love it as a tech masterpiece and its still delivers a great doom experience just with more of a horror emphasis on the gameplay and the slow paced gameplay blends easily with the game design.
scenic stratus
doom 3 is the one game which you appreciate more the more it ages. its kinda the...
you say this because you haven't watched "Silent Descent PC" walkthrough
errant hornet
yeah but like doom 3 is the best horror shooter ive ever played
scenic stratus
d3 is the best horror shooter - agree
but Silent Descent is far more intense horror game
with a flashlight too
everyone should watch it at least once
errant hornet
alright i will check it out
errant hornet
d3 is the best horror shooter - agree
f.e.a.r was also a good one :))
scenic stratus
yeah too
scenic stratus
Why is doom 3 mp dead? not a single player online worldwide
dusky ginkgo
Doom 3 shotgun
dire minnow
DOOM 3
scenic stratus
3Doom
radiant hull
Why is doom 3 mp dead? not a single player online worldwide
because it's doom 3
dire minnow
¿
scenic stratus
dire minnow
scenic stratus
scenic stratus
<:whiplash:797968191367675904>
lewd
knotty folio
But doom 3 isnt old
main glen
Doom 3 deeply underrated main theme
main glen
its the game itself <:doomcry:668559689205940249>
Based
the first doom i ever played....i dont regret it
scenic stratus
the first doom i ever played....i dont regret it
first doom i played has to be doom 2 
and doom 3 is the last one i played
main glen
first doom i played has to be doom 2 <:doom_slayer:244448936167866369>
Not very interested in doom 2 as in doom 64
Xd
scenic stratus
why man.. doom 2 is like the best doom i ever played
scenic stratus
solid pfp 
loud fog
Doom 3 is cool, not when it’s the BFG edition tho
main glen
Doom 3 is cool, not when it’s the BFG edition tho
I played the bfg edition
teal apex
bfg edition is now dead 
scenic stratus
I played the bfg edition
how was it?
main glen
solid pfp <:dogluv:794067900095922228>
scenic stratus
and idk it seems.....
cmon man dont turn this into a cliffhanger
main glen
Sorry i was looking dm
Its more "scary" the og
mainly the lighting or the 1st parts of the game where you need to change flashlights n all
but i was littler when played the bfg so idk
scenic stratus
mainly the lighting or the 1st parts of the game where you need to change flashl...
ah yeah that was a problem but its kinda cool
they used darkplaces in the maps and hid some zombies in them
sometimes scares me
bfg is bad
not scary at all
doom 3 was scary and intense as hell because you move slower
Yes doom 3 was but bfg wasnt
main glen
doom 3 was scary and intense as hell because you move slower
And you cant see shit without flashlight
loud fog
Yep
main glen
kinda good the cinematics
scenic stratus
and how they explained every single area in mars base
knotty folio
One question, how much does the berserk last in doom3? The same as doom 2 and doom 1?
scenic stratus
One question, how much does the berserk last in doom3? The same as doom 2 and do...
nah
classic dooms berserk can last a whole level
coral solstice
I think Decino explained that there really is a time limit in one of his vids but it’s just incredibly long
little raven
Theres only 2 berserks in this game
Still more then eternal
dire minnow
Theres only 2 berserks in this game <:doomguy_dead:242284429626703873>
Still mo...
After Super Gore Nest Master Level dropped I think you have to rephrase this to "Still more than in Eternal's Campaign"
honest lynx
Probably only 2 because of doom 3 just wanted that horror shooter vibe. Didnt want to cross into faster pace and action like with lost missions. Lost missions should have had a few more berserks
little raven
Doom 3guy stubs his toe when he picks one up
teal apex
I think Decino explained that there really is a time limit in one of his vids bu...
every powerup has a timer, and the timer is used on berserk to tell when to fade away the red, but so it wont run out they just set the counter very high
scenic stratus
I can smell the boredom in here
scenic stratus
bruh why did i get warned for baiting
all i said was i can smell the boredom in here because doom 3 is kinda boring imo i have played it
half plank
slate gulch
You may have played it but have you mastered it
half plank
Imagine not doing Nightmare mode and finishing on Veteran at least 5 times.
slate gulch
I've done Veteran at least 6 and Nightmare twice, once in BFG and once in vanilla
half plank
Doom 3 is worth playing a lot, you end up noticing more after each playthrough
slate gulch
I found way more secrets in the recent playthrough
Makes me wish it kept results screens
half plank
A mod that adds stats screens and even ranks you based on how good you did... Could be fun, maybe even add a "variable difficulty" system, depending on how good you did on the prior map determines the difficulty setting, making it harder to keep the top ranks. Could be a fun twist
slate gulch
Devil May Cry divides the requirements into harder skills also asking more of you. Inagine trying to master the Nightmare requirements
half plank
low wren
A mod that adds stats screens and even ranks you based on how good you did... Co...
there are a few games with rubberband/variable difficulty, resident evil 4 comes to mind. It never points it out but its a real thing in that game to the point where speedrunners will purposely get hit or die in certain bits to lower difficulty, lol
god hand's heat meter is the more blatant approach
viral rock
i need to finish doom 3 ;-;
low wren
iz good game
slate gulch
there are a few games with rubberband/variable difficulty, resident evil 4 comes...
Goid thing about how RE4 and God Hsnd did their Hard modes- whatever few other changes they made they lock the dynamic difficulty to the highest possible. Since God Gand actually shows it you can see you're locked on Level Die
RE4 they had to do some debugging to figure it out, but Professional locks you to 'Rank 10' and also removes the body armor from the late game
honest lynx
I tried doing veteran it just isnt fun anymore. Especially on bfg. Just mow every demon in sight down
scenic stratus
I think Decino explained that there really is a time limit in one of his vids bu...
Ya thats why i said they CAN last a whole level
Also doom 3 's berserk is wild
All that screaming and stuff
half plank
I tried doing veteran it just isnt fun anymore. Especially on bfg. Just mow ever...
And nightmare can be annoying with the 25 health and 1 shot zsec, we need a Veteran+.
slate gulch
They could have done fast monsters. Surprised they didn't
obtuse jolt
hard dove
anyone play RooM on roblox it sucks not as good as real
half plank
olive pike
@supple trail this one
scenic stratus
You know guys I like Doom 3 but I hate when people try to make Doom 3 fit into the Canon timeline as a prequel
Because most of the arguments usually are oh it takes place in 2145 it's the earliest game in the franchise well no it's not the original three Doom games take place in the span of 2022 to 2024
If you couldn't tell I'm referring to Doom 1 Doom 2 and Doom 64
ok why did doom 3 changed the hell knights
versed estuary
Doom 3 went for a scarier vibe
Og hell knights are ugly af and just reskinned barons
Doom 3 hell knights best version
scenic stratus
ooh
ok why did pikies changed so much
Yeah 2022 I can see you're starting to sweat profusely
in dooom 3
versed estuary
Pinkies had to because their size wouldn’t fit doom 3
It was a functional over design choice
scenic stratus
ooh
slate gulch
Doom 3 hardly ever throws more than one at a time either
scenic stratus
But I think we can all happily agree that Doom 3 takes place in its own timeline
versed estuary
It does yes
scenic stratus
Besides we all know Doom 64 is the real Doom 3 and that's why it's part of the Prime timeline in Doom 3 isn't
versed estuary
It takes place 2145
Doom 2016 project Lazarus is 2145
So they literally cannot be same timeline
slate gulch
RoE is like 2146 or 7
versed estuary
Technology and events don’t match
distant saddle
anyone know a good name that i can combo with bury the light and doom eternal, like bury the demons or something like that?
versed estuary
As much as I love doom 3
Can’t deny it doesn’t fit
scenic stratus
there was this dude in a YouTube comment section saying that the original two Doom games couldn't take place in 2022 because the technology was too advanced
versed estuary
It’s a video game 👀
slate gulch
its more like we're too stupid and wasting the time we could have used getting to that point
scenic stratus
It’s a video game 👀
Do you know what I told him when the first two Doom games released 2022 was still the distant future
versed estuary
To be fair humanity as is is certainly ruining themselves
slate gulch
Now we have Elon Musk raving about getting people on Mars by 2026
we could have colonized the damn moon by now
scenic stratus
Now we have Elon Musk raving about getting people on Mars by 2026
Yeah but Elon Musk isn't working on teleportation technology
slate gulch
Elon Musk isn't WORKING plain and simple
he's exactly the kind of person who will cause something just as horrible to happen and is already probably going beyond the UAC in cruelty to his company
scenic stratus
Do you what I call the main villain of Doom 3 Dr Palpatine
scenic stratus
Yeah but the way Dr protruder laughs in Doom three is nearly identical to Darth sidious's laugh
scenic stratus
Yeah but the way Dr protruder laughs in Doom three is nearly identical to Darth ...
and its annoying as hell
slate gulch
Betruger is actually attributed to most of the laughs in the files and half of them don't sound like him
scenic stratus
Betruger is actually attributed to most of the laughs in the files and half of t...
true
honest lynx
RoE is like 2146 or 7
Its 2 years after I believe so 2147
slate gulch
if only the RoE ending had any explanation
honest lynx
if only the RoE ending had any explanation
I really did not like the ending. It didnt really show how you got out of hell or if you somehow survived being chomped
slate gulch
it halfass implies Heaven
slate gulch
not only that but McNeil answers even though you had shut off all oxygen and life support to reroute the teleporter
honest lynx
Yeah they would both be dead and in heaven potentially
slate gulch
funny thing is he's not the marine from 3 either
honest lynx
Doom marine is probably undergoing treatment for ptsd lol
slate gulch
the only thing that seemed to scare him was the cyberdemon
honest lynx
the only thing that seemed to scare him was the cyberdemon
He says oh fuck when he sees it for the first time. I swear
slate gulch
then it goes all Finding Nemo volcano scene
scenic stratus
the only thing that seemed to scare him was the cyberdemon
that look of disgust lmao
half plank
Doom 3 Guy was just mildly displeased the whole game, but it seems that the Cyberdemon made him feel a different emotion.
scenic stratus
yeah i laughed when i saw his face
outer fulcrum
Honestly with Doom 3 for me it went from it scaring the shit outta me to just pissing me off lmao
scenic stratus
no one use cheats i think
scenic stratus
DOOM 3 is a good game, just not a good DOOM game
teal apex
youre the first person to ever say that in this channel
little raven
Yeah you are
scenic stratus
DOOM 3 is a good game, just not a good DOOM game
have a look at upcoming "Quantum Error" game
@scenic stratus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG0z2uraQVw
Alright
scenic stratus
Yeah you are
I'm really not
little raven
Yeah you really are
In doom 3
You have a bunch of weapons
Fast movement
Kill demons
Hell portal
Uac base on mars
Seems pretty doom to me
scenic stratus
But it focuses more on horror than action. Plus, you have a stamina bar and the cyberdemon fight doesn't even feel like a cyberdemon fight. It's the only one that isn't "Shoot until it dies"
And the design of most of the demons suck
Cacodemons and Pinky demons especially
no they don't suck. they are just new.
They don't feel like DOOM at all
although, doom 3 is a different universe - it's awesome universe
scenic stratus
They don't feel like DOOM at all
they don't have to. they don't need to.
It doesn't feel like a DOOM game for me
little raven
And besides doom 1 and 64 had horror elements as well
Like walking up to the barons in doom 1
scenic stratus
DooM 3 is a... let's call it indie horror shooter back in a day
DOOM 1 and DOOM 64 didn't make it focused on horror. There was still that fast-paced action and quick thinking
In DOOM 3 you don't need to move much
little raven
Which is still in doom 3 if you play it right
scenic stratus
Just shoot
It's one of the worst DOOM games I've played. The other is DOOM VFR, but even they got that DOOM feel to it
little raven
Your only complaint have been are
The designs are bad
And you dont have to move a lot which is caused by you not playing aggro
scenic stratus
It doesn't have the DOOM feel that most DOOM games have. I'm not the only one who thinks that, either
little raven
It has the same atmosphere of doom 2016 and 64
Thats like half of doom games
scenic stratus
No, no it doesn't. DOOM 2016 has a metal soundtrack, fast-paced action, quick thinking, swarms of demons, constant moving and fast af demons that don't even give you much time to react
little raven
Its also a ruined mars base that has a darker and more horror esque atmosphere then eternal
The ost for 2016 is bearly audible in gameplay since it stops everytime you do a glory kill and unless you play on nm the demons arent really fast and you have all the time in the world to dodge stuff
scenic stratus
Have you even played DOOM 3?
little raven
40 hours
scenic stratus
Damn
Way too excessive
Anyway I'll brb
You just haven't played doom 3 OpenCoop
little raven
I dont think hes played 3 at all honesty
scenic stratus
I've played every DOOM game
little raven
Well hes back already
What do you have this time
scenic stratus
You pissed because I'm stating something that most people on the internet have stated?
little raven
No I’m impressed
That so many people have said the exact same thing and they each come here
Thats dedication
scenic stratus
Look at literally any DOOM 3 review
scenic stratus
DOOM 3 doesn't even come close to being one of the best DOOM games
Doesn't mean it's a bad game
It just doesn't have most of the atmosphere most DOOM games have
So I find it hard to call it a great DOOM game
little raven
It only has the atmosphere of half of them
scenic stratus
You mean half the atmosphere of half the games
Doesn't mean I hate the game
I prefer it over DOOM VFR tbh
Cause it's more fun
little raven
Vfr is basically unplayable
Even the master levels are better
scenic stratus
VFR is playable, just a bit boring and the turn controls on PSVR suck. And no glory kills. Only telefrags
I just noticed the description of this channel
I love it
void pine
i know doom 3 isnt like any other doom game, but is it more horror focused or doom focused?
scenic stratus
Horror focused. It embraced the more horror side of DOOM
errant hornet
its pretty good
honest lynx
i know doom 3 isnt like any other doom game, but is it more horror focused or do...
It is a bit of both and also depends on your play style. You play slower and door fight because you're scared itll be alot slower. You push rooms and just wipe out anything that spawns in itll be faster
Really depends on you
scenic stratus
I wipe the floor with those slow-ass demons
slate gulch
And if you kiss things with a shotgun and bounce grenades into things like mario fireballs we'll actually be impressed, because you know how to play
honest lynx
When the boss hype is longer than the fight .. https://imgur.com/gallery/1qgUCwR
Like so
slate gulch
I never thought about what those pods would do to you on Nightmare. Ow.
How about Sabaoth where you launch the cube, duck and chainsaw and his metal body BLEEDS because they didn't think you'd try that
honest lynx
How about Sabaoth where you launch the cube, duck and chainsaw and his metal bod...
I need to see that. I usually just rocket him
slate gulch
Chainsaw does 50 damage every time a spark goes off, quickly eviscerates what the cube left of his sad 1750 hp
honest lynx
Doing that next. It sounds hilarious
slate gulch
Imagine what he could do if he had decent health, because you have to let him get started. Meanwhile most RoE bosses have more than the Cyberdemon did
knotty folio
When the boss hype is longer than the fight .. https://imgur.com/gallery/1qgUCwR
where did you get the soul cube?
little raven
Nm
slate gulch
where did you get the soul cube?
Nightmare gives it to you at the start.
knotty folio
ah
blazing marsh
Oh yeah cuz your health kinda drains to 25 non stop here
quasi spear
Just found out about the secret with the plasma ammo in mars city underground and i think i've opened my third eye
I swear I've already played through this twice and yet I keep on finding more things it's crazy
also just read the channel description ha ha real funny
frail thorn
Do you guys play the BFg edition or the first one where you had to use the flashlight
slate gulch
BFG edition cut things out
frail thorn
I never completed the flashlight one
sand solar
@blazing marsh
blazing marsh
Yes
half plank
Everytime someone jokes about Doom 3's shotgun, it gets 10% less funny.
scenic stratus
where did you get the soul cube?
nightmare
loud fog
Everytime someone jokes about Doom 3's shotgun, it gets 10% less funny.
Doom 3’s Shotgun
slate gulch
You'll like bruisers in RoE
honest lynx
Ngl I like the mancubus design in this game
Well damn that's a first
half plank
I do too
slate gulch
The mancubi elicit a certain range of emotions if you cant dodge them. Like 'Ow! Oh! Oof! Doof! Ah! Dwah!' And basically every pain sound
honest lynx
Most people come in here hating on it
slate gulch
I swear the pain sounds happen in order
honest lynx
I swear the pain sounds happen in order
Only one way to find out. Record it all
scenic stratus
The tentacles on the mancubus look weird but I like it
My favorite design of them is probably Doom Eternal
scenic stratus
ok how do i skip cutscenes in doom 3 ?
scenic stratus
ok how do i skip cutscenes in doom 3 ?
esc button
scenic stratus
are you still interested in opencoop?
slate gulch
Base BFG doesn't let you slip cutscenes and you need RBDoom3BFG
Actually I see its progressed nicely and may have to try out BFG edition again with it
It's a trip reading about the lighting changes he took from other games to make it brighter
covert anchor
ok how do i skip cutscenes in doom 3 ?
Only works in the original version of doom 3 not any re-releases
scenic stratus
i just bought doom 3 you guys got any tips for it?
scenic stratus
i just bought doom 3 you guys got any tips for it?
welp doom 3 is an easy game
grave dock
The tentacles on the mancubus look weird but I like it
I really liked the 2016 designes
scenic stratus
Ew
scenic stratus
Just got to hell, gonna get to the Guardian soon
scenic stratus
Just got the soul cube
honest lynx
Just got the soul cube
Use us
slate gulch
We are the Praeleanthor
quasi spear
inhale
ROE Bruiser
favorite demon design
slate gulch
The vulgar started as the archvile. There was also that bird man thing that might have been the imp
slate gulch
Now do RoE and have some real bosses
versed estuary
^^^
dire minnow
I need doom 3 skin for doom eternal
Buy DOOM 3
No need to thank me
honest lynx
Mal in nightmare mode is an actual blast. Real epic fight
stable lake
Buy DOOM 3
No need to thank me
but only the beth.net version
the Steam BFG edition doesn't work
slate gulch
Hows Lost Mission on Nightmare? Does it give you anything at the start?
honest lynx
Hows Lost Mission on Nightmare? Does it give you anything at the start?
It's short but fast paced and you get the soul cube
slate gulch
What if it up and gave you nothing
honest lynx
Then the last arena battle might have been difficult hahah
You havent played it yet ?
slate gulch
Not on Nightmare. Still have to do RoE too
little raven
I just experienced doom 3 on a touchscreen in third person with the camera flipped 180 degrees
I doubt I will ever recover
runic bronze
Is doom 3 canon to the whole doom storyline?
slate gulch
It should have been
versed estuary
Is doom 3 canon to the whole doom storyline?
No
runic bronze
👍
thorn verge
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/109799866267389952/802437315329916977/image0.jpg RoE - how I get in here
Locked/broken door w body, pda, and locker
slate gulch
Jog my memory and I think it's a floor panel missing somewhere
thorn verge
One you crawl in? I haven’t seen any near by unless I’m blind
It’s by excavation control
And the first locker in RoE
slate gulch
I got in that room when I played RoE just months ago and I cant recall suddenly
thorn verge
It’s ok lol
Does “downloading files” on the PC in control the power out and lock the door - cus lights went out when I did
@slate gulch elevator shaft ladder
slate gulch
I got it mixed with one that appears later
thorn verge
Fun fact, locker 28 isn’t on the wiki
Even though it’s the same code as 29 👀
Do you play as the same marine in the expansions or no
slate gulch
No
In RoE it's an engineer two years later. In Lost Missions it's a Bravo Team survivor. Bfg edition even adds a vent to the ambush room to show where he got dragged
thorn verge
A bravo team survivor 👀
How long are the expansions compared to the game - time to complete about
slate gulch
Doom 3 was 27 levels, RoE is 12. I Think Lost Missions was 8
thorn verge
Ah ok
polar ginkgo
imagine not liking doom 3 main theme
solid vapor
Doom 3 is such an amazing and unique game
grave dock
Does anybody know why the ammo packs dont give bfg cells despite it saying so?
honest lynx
Doom 3 is such an amazing and unique game
Loved by those who really played it. Hated by those that havent
knotty folio
I love it
neat moth
Loved by those who really played it. Hated by those that havent
Exactly
thorn verge
Am i a monster for liking regular shotty over super
I mean. Super is nice for stronger guys ofc
thorn verge
Does anybody know why the ammo packs dont give bfg cells despite it saying so?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
knotty folio
Am i a monster for liking regular shotty over super
nah, normal is great for ranged shots, ssg is perfect for cqc
grave dock
Am i a monster for liking regular shotty over super
Its reload time is what gets me. If you miss you're stuck reloading and cant switch weapons which sucks
thorn verge
nah, normal is great for ranged shots, ssg is perfect for cqc
Yeah I’d like to 1 shot an archville more often
I did it once w combat shotty and I felt amazing. Never will happen again lol
thorn verge
Its reload time is what gets me. If you miss you're stuck reloading and cant swi...
Agreed
minor raft
Due to a nauseating view-shifting issue, I won't be playing until I figure out what the problem is.
honest lynx
Its reload time is what gets me. If you miss you're stuck reloading and cant swi...
Dont miss
knotty folio
Noice
odd kayak
knotty folio
scenic stratus
doom 3 vr
@odd kayak
THE
pants shitter
scenic stratus
Got doom 3
I got Mass Effect Andromeda
honest lynx
this game isnt garbage
No one thought this when it came out. Actually huge doom fans love this game for it's own charm
ruby frigate
i love it for atleast attempting to be a horror.
plus i like the lore its yknow pretty cool ;)
warm portal
In my opinion, Doom 64 actually did horror right. First, because you can actually see what's meant to "scare" you. Second, since it's not intentional. Third, the soundtrack helps with running around corridors, not knowing what's next
honest lynx
In my opinion, Doom 64 actually did horror right. First, because you can actuall...
Considering Id tech 4 was built to produce a horror environment never seen before in a video game.Built specifically for doom 3 ( the game was built around the shadow lighting textures of Id tech 4 something that did not exist until this game..I have to strongly disagree with that statement with ever fiber of my body.
warm portal
Well, hey. I respect your opinion. I do admire Doom 3, and it still looks great to this day
But, it doesn't really get the horror theme right, since once you experience one of the scares, you basically have seen all of them
honest lynx
You dont believe a game that was built from the pixel up to be dark.. fulk of despair... death.. and desperation to not nail the horror vibe? Interesting take. But not a good one
warm portal
Not really. It's a bit too cliche for me.
honest lynx
Not really. It's a bit too cliche for me.
Which part ?
warm portal
All of it. It tries to build horror to much, and it gets overdone. But that's just my own, dumb opinion
half plank
The atmosphere works, but the scares fall flat, I agree there.
It relies way too heavily on poorly done jumpscares.
warm portal
Yes. I do think it can be scary. But you can barely see anything, so it doesn't really work
honest lynx
Well hes saying 64 is a darker more horror focused doom game which sounds hilarious
That's what I'm asking about
half plank
The dark atmosphere is great though, totally makes up for the mediocre jumpscares imho.
warm portal
Not, I just think that it can do the horror aspect a bit better than Doom 3, since you can actually see, and the music helps with the jarring enemy sounds
half plank
I disagree, not being able to see what's ahead is horror 101.
warm portal
True, but all the scares are the same in Doom 3, with all due respect to the game itself
half plank
The problem is that Doom 3 Guy has too much power at his fingertips, kills a bit of the suspense and anxiety of waiting to see what's in the shadows.
warm portal
YES
half plank
It isn't the darkness that's the problem.
warm portal
And with that, almost all the scares are just
"you open door"
"enemy appear"
honest lynx
And with that, almost all the scares are just
"you open door"
"enemy appear"
What did you think of hell
What was the scariest area
half plank
Hell in 3 was just.... Glorious.
honest lynx
Not you cheese
half plank
damn
warm portal
Not really any of it. Hell in Doom 3 just felt like original Doom. You have infinite stamina, and can actually see
warm portal
I did like Hell the most out of the whole game. But not because of the "scares". Just because it actually felt like the original Doom
half plank
The atmosphere, and pure satanic vibe is NOTHING like Classic's hell.
warm portal
True
half plank
Classic's hell is colorful and vibrant.
warm portal
It felt a bit like Sigil
half plank
Doom 3's is bleak, and opressive.
warm portal
Yes
But I do like the more bleak version of hell, since it seems more realistic to what Hell might actually look like
It's nice
But I do wanna say, I hate the Cyberdemon fight
It goes against what the original strategy was for taking him down in the first game.
"Shoot it until it dies"
half plank
I agree with that take, Cyberdemon sucks in this game, he looks cool, but that's it.
warm portal
Yeah. I do like how he looks. But the fact that it's the only one in the game, and the battle is just a chore to deal with. It just makes the experience of battling the Harbinger of Doom more boring
half plank
Battle's not a chore at all, he dies in like 3 minutes.
warm portal
True. But the way to defeat him is just hit him with the Soul Cube a few times, and that's it. Not the complex kind of chore, but the boring kind
It feels like such a let down
versed estuary
Yes, the correct term is boring
scenic stratus
Imo doom 3 wasn’t bad it was actually pretty good but it just wasn’t a doom game and I still miss soul cube
warm portal
I mean, if Doom 3 was a new IP, and not a Doom game, I think it would be even better
versed estuary
It is clearly a doom game
half plank
You know, Doom 3 doesn't feel like the others, so I get what people mean by "not Doom" but it still has every component needed to be Doom.
warm portal
True
half plank
It has:
-Strong Marine
-Guns
-Demons
-Hell
-The UAC
-Action (even if to a smaller extent)
versed estuary
Hella demons from hell
Hella weapons
Fast movement
Hella ammo
Bfg
Hell
UAC
1 marine vs the forces of hell
🤷♂️ sounds like doom to me
scenic stratus
Sorry that’s what I meant it doesn’t feel like a doom game
half plank
It feels different yeah
versed estuary
Fast movement
Guns ablazing
half plank
No denying that, feels a lot more like Half Life
versed estuary
Feels like doom to me
half plank
Still a Doom game though
warm portal
It is a Doom game, but I think it would've done better as a new game all together
honest lynx
It is a Doom game, but I think it would've done better as a new game all togethe...
No one thought this when the game was released. This is a new concept
half plank
Classic Doom and Doom 3 share more similarities than Classic and "NuDoom". NuDoom feels more like Quake to me, mechanically speaking.
warm portal
Well, the modern games are basically Doom, but evolved. Doom 3 is just Doom, but a different take on the franchise
honest lynx
Also it did fantastic
scenic stratus
Remember when doom was just an FPS game and there was no story
honest lynx
One of the best selling games of 2004
half plank
There was always a story
versed estuary
^
half plank
Even if less prevalent
warm portal
Yeah, there was always a story for the original 2 games
scenic stratus
Well not a big one at least
warm portal
Although a very basic story
honest lynx
Well not a big one at least
Its considered the big four of 2004
half plank
Guy punches commanding officer, sent to mars, guy and marines investigate Phobos, Guy is last one left, killing time
honest lynx
Which is a honor
warm portal
Which is a honor
I agree
half plank
Doom 1's story is simple, but it is there
honest lynx
Considering the games that came out that year
warm portal
It did well at first, but then Half-Life 2 stole it's thunder
honest lynx
It did well at first, but then Half-Life 2 stole it's thunder
No
honest lynx
Half life just never had another game and their fans hold on to 2. For doom 2016 came out and new fans came around and shit on the past. That's the difference
half plank
Haven't gotten to 2, been working on HL1 though, I like it.
warm portal
Well, there was Half Life 2 Episode 1, and then 2. Then it never got another game
Until Alyx
honest lynx
You don't say
warm portal
Sorry
Actually, lets just forget this convo. I don't wanna seem annoying on my first day here. This place is really cool, and I hope I have a good impression
half plank
Gougaru has no mercy, prepare thyself
warm portal
oh no
half plank
half plank
#doom-3 and #classic-doom are ran by boomers, so beware
warm portal
I know, but I love the original games to death
warm portal
Wait. I dont wanna seem weird, but I do wanna know the general age group of the people here.
half plank
Never actually played stuff like VFR or the long gone Doom RPG
half plank
Wait. I dont wanna seem weird, but I do wanna know the general age group of the ...
I'd say most people here are around 15-25 from what I've gathered.
warm portal
I see.
I'm 15. So it's nice to know that I'm talking to people that are of the same-ish age group
half plank
There are older boyes though, like Gougaru who is like 30 or something.
half plank
It really also depends on the channel, most people talking in the channels for the older games are more mature from what I've noticed.
"""most"""
warm portal
I see. I'm mostly a Doom 64 kinda guy
half plank
Doom 64 is great
warm portal
I know!
scenic stratus
Haven't gotten to 2, been working on HL1 though, I like it.
2 is even better
slate gulch
We talking HL1 on Hard? It does more than change numbers in the first one
slate gulch
My man
Those double speed lightning vortigaunts are fun
Oh and the ninjas turn invisible when not moving on hard
Actually there's a cfg showing each individual change to enemies, it isn't a single scale. That doesn't show hardcoded differences though
Oh and the charging stations giving h you almost nothing
half plank
I forgot exactly where I got to, it's fun though, not my favorite retro fps so far, but it's still good.
slate gulch
Imagine if they had every monster faster
half plank
Hard mode is really hard though, everything's tanky as hell.
slate gulch
Bullsquids on hard can actually take hits
On lower skills most of them seem to have too little health
half plank
yeah, they take a lot of hits
slate gulch
In HL2 Hard Overwatch Elites sometimes survive direct grenade rounds
scenic stratus
We talking HL1 on Hard? It does more than change numbers in the first one
hl1 on hard is actually hard
half plank
Kinda wish I started on Normal, but I think it would've been too easy.
scenic stratus
In HL2 Hard Overwatch Elites sometimes survive direct grenade rounds
yeah
slate gulch
Opposing Force also much harder on hard
scenic stratus
Kinda wish I started on Normal, but I think it would've been too easy.
yeah
, i dont think there's that much of a difference on normal and easy
opposing force man, such a great expansion
half plank
Still relatively new to HL, enjoying what I've played though, it is indeed hard though.
scenic stratus
welp have fun and good luck
im replaying blood and that shooting gallery on phantom express is super fun
half plank
Played through Blood twice and even working on a 3rd playthrough. You're talking about the room full of shotgunners, right?
scenic stratus
Played through Blood twice and even working on a 3rd playthrough. You're talking...
yeash
even with the akimbo its still hard
half plank
You gotta get the reflective powerup
scenic stratus
oh man there was?
half plank
yeah
scenic stratus
i think i got possesed by a demon and i just went crazy on that section
half plank
behind both counters theres a switch, and on the right one theres a panel that opens
its kinda necessary on Extra Crispy
scenic stratus
behind both counters theres a switch, and on the right one theres a panel that o...
thanks
thorn verge
It really also depends on the channel, most people talking in the channels for t...
Ah yes most
HEH
robust garden
Doom 3 was my first real exposure to video games, played it with my old man when I was 5. It'll always hold a place near to me as a treasured memory.
near harness
Hoi
vagrant holly
@near harness is BFG a game?
It's a remaster to Doom 3, a remaster that is not exactly faithful to the source material. Basically they adjusted the gameplay to be more in line with other Doom games.
thorn verge
Doom 3 was my first real exposure to video games, played it with my old man when...
When you were 5
You sir are a legend
I didn’t even finish dead space when I was in my young teens
vagrant holly
most fans think that BFG Edition made D3 worse because it robs a piece of the game's identity and instead of a unique experience it's just a bad Doom game now
thorn verge
I like BFG, even if I haven’t played the entire game of OG doom 3
It’s still a fun game
near harness
most fans think that BFG Edition made D3 worse because it robs a piece of the ga...
Do you think it's good?
vagrant holly
I think BFG is shite but I was never a huge fan of D3 either 😄
I do prefer OG Doom 3 though
carmine sonnet
Meh I like BFG edition more. Simply because I don’t have to use a flashlight as a weapon
near harness
Well bfg is probably on switch- they got all of the doom games
thorn verge
BFG is generally the edition available on consoles (even if not labeled BFG)
vagrant holly
yep, OG Doom 3 is only on PC and on Xbox
near harness
@vagrant holly (and switch i think)
carmine sonnet
Basically, the BFG edition brightens up the lighting, attaches the flashlight to your armor and gives you more ammo.
vagrant holly
<@413751755621531648> (and switch i think)
no, that's a port of BFG
vagrant holly
Basically, the BFG edition brightens up the lighting, attaches the flashlight to...
it doubles the ammo to be exact 😄
carmine sonnet
Wow, really? Damn
thorn verge
Nothing wrong with that 
vagrant holly
it's like a Resident Evil game without the hard difficulty 😄
vagrant holly
also: BFG has faster movement (one of the good additions in my opinion)
vagrant holly
yep, what would be great is a port that just gave you the option to play OG or to play BFG
carmine sonnet
The cons of the BFG edition is not being able to skip cutscenes, and some areas are trivialized by having the flashlight attached to your armor. Instead of having to manually pull it out, and use it in dark spaces.
thorn verge
If you wanna play OG just use a MEH Pc
near harness
vagrant holly
They’re virtually the same game
well, if you view the trashed version of Doom 3 that offers no challenge "virtually the same game" then sure, it's the same game. I mean the content is the same except for the few rooms they cut.
thorn verge
It’s not that it offers no challenge. It’s that you don’t see the same challenge
Just because you’re a good player at FPS doesn’t mean an easier version in your opinion is automatically trash. Sorry man
carmine sonnet
Doom 3 BFG edition is definitely easier than vanilla but honestly, considering both versions, Doom 3 still remains as the easiest Doom game in the franchise. Imo.
vagrant holly
It’s not that it offers no challenge. It’s that you don’t see the same challenge
well, Doom 3 is Doom for babies in difficulty by default... and then they removed the flashlight mechanic, doubled the ammo and made enemy visibility a lot better. It's just point n click now.
thorn verge
You can tell me anything you want - it’s still an opinion - and I fully respect it man ¯_(ツ)_/¯
carmine sonnet
Doom 64 might be a bit easier actually, but the puzzles can stump you at times
carmine sonnet
Yep
vagrant holly
Doom 64 might be a bit easier actually, but the puzzles can stump you at times
Doom 64 has Hectic though. Fuck Hectic 😄
carmine sonnet
Oh I remember that map...
near harness
Ok but what's the best game for a new comer?
thorn verge
Any. Just try one
It’s all opinionated
I’ll be lame and say “doom 1 cus it’s the start of it all”
vagrant holly
well, you can't really go wrong with anything that's not Doom 3 really, I mean nowadays you kinda want to leave Doom 3 as the last one to play to complete the bucket list since it's not canon with 2016 and Eternal.
though when it comes to 2016 I think that game makes a bit more sense visually if you played or at least seen Doom 3 before
near harness
Who's the protagonist tho? Doomguy?
carmine sonnet
Yeah basically. I personally would recommend starting with Doom 2016. Doom Eternal enhances the combat, that makes 2016 look somewhat slower in comparison. You would need to break away from Eternal for a while before heading into 2016, if you don’t want the experience to feel jarring. The classics are fun, but not good to play through without breaks. They can get stale quick.
thorn verge
Doom guy in every doom except 3
vagrant holly
eh, base Doom 3 is pretty much just a new version of Doomguy
Resurrection of Evil has its own protagonist and Lost Mission too though
thorn verge
(Doom 3 expansions)
slate gulch
He has the same spirit. The only thing he even flinches at is the Cyberdemon
The one from RoE is clearly nuts
slate gulch
He sees a floating human heart with runes and machinery on it and his face says "YES PLEASE" and him touching it causes the second invasion and kills his entire team which he doesn't even react to
thorn verge
I need to sp33drun 2016 some time. I remember nothing from that one in the series
Played it once and said “YEP I did it”
Didn’t do dlc 😅
slate gulch
Demons everywhere. Guts, huge guts. Must kill them all
near harness
But who's the protagonist of doom 3
thorn verge
It’s different each story. Main, Dlc 1, dlc 2
slate gulch
Though 2016bmore starts with Doom Slayer himself wanting nothing to do with the plot while you start to learn just who he is and what he's done since the originals, and even he doesn't care to tell you in some way it's still him
teal apex
Ok but what's the best game for a new comer?
Doom 3 or in general
slate gulch
Definitely Doom 3 because both expansions expect you to already know how to play
near harness
Doom 3 or in general
In general
thorn verge
You play as a random marine in the main doom 3, who, spoilers, ||is virtually the last marine on the space station who fights his way through hell and the base||, and the dlc you play as an engineer supposedly, and the 2nd dlc you play as a survivor of the squad ....?
teal apex
In general
Doom
versed estuary
Ye
thorn verge
I know nothing about lore of doom 3. I just repeat HEH
teal apex
Idk either
versed estuary
Honestly just play either
Doom 1993
2016
Or 3
slate gulch
The series became what you probably think Doom is in Doom 2
versed estuary
Play 1993 so if you like it you can play doom 2 and 64
carmine sonnet
But who's the protagonist of doom 3
Main Doom 3? The protagonist is just called the Doom Marine.
teal apex
The series became what you probably think Doom is in Doom 2
Doom is in doom 2? What?
slate gulch
The first Doom is not evocative of the rest of the series
Doom 2 filled out the cast and had the huge maps full of demons
teal apex
Also id highly reccomend not playing classic doom through either doom 3 bfg or doom eternal
Both those versions suck
near harness
Ok so 1 and 2 is doomguy, ||who is just Doomslayer (2016 and Eternal)||
Doom 3 is Doom Marine?
thorn verge
I liked doom 1 more than 2 - unpopular (?) opinion
teal apex
I liked doom 1 more than 2 - unpopular (?) opinion
I dont think its that unpopular
I prefer doom 1
thorn verge
2 had more to it but the maps felt jank (to me)
slate gulch
I prefer Plutonia
carmine sonnet
I liked doom 1 more than 2 - unpopular (?) opinion
Nah. Doom 2 has some real annoying level design.
vagrant holly
most people do like Doom 1 better. 2 added a lot of interesting stuff but has pretty mediocre level design.
slate gulch
And then we have TNT
thorn verge
most people do like Doom 1 better. 2 added a lot of interesting stuff but has pr...
“Go teleport... and .... fight 20 enemies in this room. Btw you can’t move more than 10 feet”
vagrant holly
Plutonia is where it's at but the problem with that is you really need the first two games to feel comfortable at playing Plutonia 😄
teal apex
So does tnt become bad because i keep hearing bad things but i liked it, after playing like half of it
near harness
Everyone gangster till someone bring up Doom: Annihilation
slate gulch
If you think Doom 2 is bad TNT has actual bad levels and not just memery
teal apex
Plutonia is where it's at but the problem with that is you really need the first...
Are you saying its the... Final Doom 
slate gulch
Were talking giant maps with more puzzles than fights in some cases
near harness
At least the first doom movie was based off of an actual game. Annihilation just sucked.
vagrant holly
If you think Doom 2 is bad TNT has actual bad levels and not just memery
Doom 2 is not bad, its levels are just I dunno... very serviceable
slate gulch
They slapped half the maps on Sandy
vagrant holly
you get better combat but less interesting layouts... and a lot of brown
slate gulch
Sandy's level design wouldn't become complete until Quake where he made Episode 4
vagrant holly
yeah, most of Doom 2 is just Sandy Petersen craziness 😄
teal apex
https://youtu.be/BDksqGudw3k=33
This is how i feel about doom 2
slate gulch
They left most of Doom 1 to him too, including the boss maps
near harness
So Doom movie was based off of doom 3, right?
slate gulch
It was barely even based on that
carmine sonnet
Doom 2005 was, barely. Doom Annihilation, I don’t even know.
near harness
*closest to
slate gulch
Imagine if the damn monsters in the movie had been throwing fireballs
vagrant holly
They left most of Doom 1 to him too, including the boss maps
and his maps in Doom 1 are worse than Doom 2, really Doom 1 = Knee Deep in the Dead mostly, that's the one you remember
carmine sonnet
The Doom 2005 movie actually has no demons in it. They’re apparently evolved species with an extra chromosome or something bizarre like that.
slate gulch
I prefer Episode 2 which was supposed to be the last episode when tom hall was still around
vagrant holly
Thy Flesh Consumed is pretty good too though but honestly we desperately needed SIGIL to make Doom 1 relevant again and just overall better. Thanks Romero.
near harness
The Doom 2005 movie actually has no demons in it. They’re apparently evolved spe...
But Annihilation's demons were very generic
carmine sonnet
Well yes it was people dressed in rubber suits
slate gulch
Romero needs to hurry up and do something for Doom 2
teal apex
thanks vega
teal apex
Romero needs to hurry up and do something for Doom 2
No he doesnt
near harness
Eternal chat is still alive, as a general chat. Wanna group back up?
vagrant holly
Romero needs to hurry up and do something for Doom 2
yep, I hope that will be a thing one day. He only made 2 maps for Doom 2 iirc so really we don't even know how "Doom 2 Romero version" would feel like.
near harness
In that case, imma head back to eternal
sour abyss
never beat this game because I am a pussy
ornate tide
it has a more serious tone yea?
dire minnow
it has a more serious tone yea?
Yeah
vagrant holly
thanks to a source port and a mod you can play Doom 3 BFG Edition in "OG Doom 3 mode" now:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2260528632
fans are incredible, modding back the original flashlight and ammo counts and all that
they even added freelook and a crosshair for the classic Doom port included with BFG lol
slate gulch
I've gone to the def files in BFG to change ammo back before. Also really glad for dhewm3
half plank
Reject BFG Edition
slate gulch
Does it undo the level changes though
vagrant holly
Does it undo the level changes though
nope, it's just a base mechanics / visual change
half plank
like I said, reject BFG Edition
vagrant holly
like I said, reject BFG Edition
fair point and I agree but it's a harder thing to do as the years go by. For example on consoles and on the Bethesda store there is a 2019 "port" of Doom 3 that's just a BFG Edition renamed with the classic games ripped out of it.