doom-3

[trim berry]

I'll keep reposting it to see who takes it. Not here though.

RoE > Doom 3 anyday.

[shut ice]

Childless cat gentlemen unite

[wraith schooner]

Around here? no you wont

[trim berry]

I couldn't keep pets even if I had the means to. Imagine being covered in lint 24/7.

Nah.

[shut ice]

Skill issue

[trim berry]

I already am enough of a cleanliness addict as is.

Doom 3 guy would be the type to be covered in cat hair.

[shut ice]

You’re a rabbit, you’re pretty much entirely made of fur and inhuman malice

[trim berry]

Yes, I will murder.

[vale wharf]

https://tenor.com/cYjixFyGDo4.gif

[frozen token]

its a palatable horror game

[livid wharf]

I wish Doom 3 were better paced, had stronger combat encounters, and had a more reasonable shotgun, but I definitely prefer it over the cartoonish powertrip of the modern games. Playing an average-ish human in nightmare scenarios makes beating the odds feel earned

[hollow tundra]

bruh thats what Im sayinggg!!!!!!

[livid wharf]

Incidentally I consider the Weapons of Mars Destruction mod to be the optimal way to play Doom 3. Big thing is how it gives the shotgun the Quake 4 shotgun stats and the Doom 3 alpha build’s models, but the other weapons also got some more minor changes and there’s a lot of sound replacements

[polar aspen]

I honestly feel like doom 3 is too slow as a game and I'd like to shoot an imp only once to kill it without having to use thr BFG

[quasi silo]

...you one-shot Imps with the shotgun though?

[polar aspen]

Last time I tried i killed it after three shots

[quasi silo]

You gotta get up closer

[polar aspen]

50 health gone

[quasi silo]

If you lose 50hp from that you're a bad player

[polar aspen]

:(

[livid wharf]

Yeah the shotgun is awkward. It can kill a revenant in one headshot but you have to practically touch their face with the muzzle for that. I highly recommend Weapons of Mars Destruction primarily because it tightens the shotgun spread (and balances it by reducing the damage a bit. Still can onetap imps and zombies consistently though)

[polar aspen]

I don't actually lose 50 healt from touching an imp but seriously i have to get like between it's atoms to deal actual damage

[scenic stratus]

true

[livid wharf]

Also the thing about Doom 3 being really slow gets a lot better after the first 3rd or so. It’s still slower than the other Doom games but it’s much more enjoyable for there

[polar aspen]

I mean I though DOOM (2016) was slow then after getting Doom 3 i changed my mind extremely fast

But then again, in 2016 my favorite character appears :3

[scenic stratus]

samur maykr

[livid wharf]

All in all I don’t think Doom 3 is bad, but it’s definitely the Doom game that benefits the most from modding imo. In particular mods to make the shotgun more reliable, though lots of other cool mods for the game exist like Phobos and Doom 3 Perfected

[polar aspen]

It's me :3

[vale wharf]

i've never felt the shotgun needed to be changed, it worked well with how small and tight majority of the rooms were imo

[livid wharf]

I get wanting it to be close range, but it’s Resident Evil ranged, which is at odds with the diet tactics shooter pacing

[scenic stratus]

I guess not all platforms are treated equally

[quick lily]

Just finished ROE

Doom 3's endings always go hard as FUCK

[earnest matrix]

The DooM 3 descriptions for items I find isn't working like it does for the weapons. When you click the weapons in your inventory a window/bubble pops up describing the weapon. But this does nothing when clicking on an inventory item. So, it the behavior seems incosistent and may be bugs in the game.

[earnest matrix]

I think I could agree. I'm over half finished playing DooM 3 right now and I don't really have any gripes with the power of the shotgun.

I think the game is a single player masterpiece myself. They really paid attention to everything: story, graphics, lots of polish and details.

[earnest matrix]

This is BULLXXXX!!! Where is everybody?

[scenic stratus]

sup doom 3ers

[unkempt iris]

Wish I could still earn achievements with the Ultimate HD mod.

[trim berry]

Man how I wished Nightdive would team up with ID and remaster this game proper. Sucks BFG edition exists and is still sold when it's objectively worse than vanilla and messes with balance in many weird ways.

[lone tiger]

Anyone familiar with Delta touch had a question

[lone tiger]

The only thing they fixed that I was happy about was the flashlight lol

[earnest matrix]

Remaster DooM 3...what is it lacking?

[trim berry]

4K resolution support, higher def textures and higher quality sounds, maybe narrowing the shotgun spread a little. Things that could be done with a single update.

[earnest matrix]

Narrowing the shotgun spread? Man, that's probably been done to death, shotgun modifications in general, that is. There are also 4k texture packs for the game as well, and probably sounds too. You just want it to be by NightDive studios.

I read that they made the BFG edition easier for people since they were all griping about not being able to hold a flashlight and a weapon at the same time.

I personally like it that way as it makes the player have to balance themselves between using one or the other.

[trim berry]

I want it to come prepackaged so I don't have to hunt those mods down everytime I want to play the game. Also mod highlights would be cool.

[earnest matrix]

I agree, I'm not against an NDS remaster by any stretch of the imagination considering how talented they seem to be. What do you mean by mod highlights?

[trim berry]

Wait what. What does integrating the flashlight into the suit have to do with increasing ammo pickups.

[trim berry]

Vanilla has a 'mods' function that pretty much only lists the stuff you have downloaded and allows you to switch to RoE. It's 2004 stuff.

[earnest matrix]

It has nothing to do with it. My point was keeping the game scary by being in a dark spot. If you had the flashlight all the time it woldn't be scary, thus, the atmosphere is affected.

I use Dhewm 3 for mod support.

[quasi silo]

I think BFG is a fine remaster, but it is objectively bad

[earnest matrix]

Now you guys got me trying to figure out what I've been playing. Oh, it's original DooM 3 but using the Dhewm3.exe basically.

[earnest matrix]

I haven't played it yet but I don't really want a game like this be easier than it already seems to be for me. There are hard parts in it when they're spawning those demoms back to back. But I think they've done a fine job by balancing that with plenty of pickups and health stations.

Sometimes, I'm just walking right by those health stations and medkits because I don't even need them. But it wasn't that way when I first started so. I guess the BFG is more for n00bs who get frustrated more easily and Rage quit the game.

[quasi silo]

Yeah difficulty is dumbed down in BFG

[earnest matrix]

My only gripe about the game, on some of the darker levels, is that it's hard to memorize the levels so you can orient yourself versus randomly wandering around until you finally get lucky and find the areas that you need. This is not really anyones fault. It's just because of the decision to limit the player to either flashlight or weapon.

You can't really memorize if you can't see.

[earnest matrix]

But that's probably only in very limited areas where it's almost pitch black.

[scenic stratus]

yesss did you see the the thing remaster

[unkempt iris]

Only if da remake replaces both versions I already bought in Steam.

[scenic stratus]

you can always hide games

[unkempt iris]

True

[orchid warren]

I think Doom 3 could have really benefitted from a randomizer.

[earnest matrix]

Can you expand on that a bit. What do you mean exactly?

[orchid warren]

Doom 1&2 have a ton of mods that exist solely to scramble the gameplay, like Vandomizer for instance.

I think what hurts a lot of 3's replay value is it didn't really have a modding community, and much incentive beyond beating it once on Veteran, and a challenge run Master Quest style with it's specific variant of Nightmare.

What might have added more replay value is if there was a scrambler for the gameplay. Like say, the enemy spawns are different, different enemies spawn, there are more variants of enemies, enemy stats may slightly randomize, like an Imp that could shoot a rocket, so on and so on.

There's a mod for Deus Ex that randomizes a ton of stuff, I think something like that would have fit a ton with Doom3 because of all the potential imsim-lite mechanics it had, like keypads.

Random keypad codes, emails might switch around a bit, levels might not entirely go in the same order of events, weapons / armor might not only be in different places but also have different stats each run. Like if instead of using the plasma rifle on revenants it was easier to use the shotgun

You get the idea.
There's really just not that much of an incentive to play Doom 3 after the first two times and, I really wish there was more.

[earnest matrix]

Well, I'm not sure that's something that game developers would spend time building natively. I guess some games have that aspect. But I honestly wouldn't want it to be randomized every gameplay of every level because then how would you master the levels in the game? It's already hard enough getting through some of the darker levels because they are dark. In the end, it is a single-player game with heavy emphasis on a story-line, very much like watching a movie but just more interactive. No one ever complains about the value of rewatching a good movie over and over. They aren't randomized.

And there are like 27 levels. So, they gave a lot of value for the money at the time of release.

[scenic stratus]

I love Doom 3…
I LOVE DOOM3!!

[earnest matrix]

Me too, I'm not even finished with the game but I have a blast everytime I play it. I can see the developers put a lot of time and effort into the storyline and there are some really cool levels in the game. It's not perect, but there's not much I can complain about. I really enjoy it.

[orchid warren]

I found Doom 3 extremely easy to play, once understanding the weapons it wasn't that hard to dodge most attacks and learn to bait enemies (in my experience). It felt like, aside from the storyline, there was a clear sandbox that was there just like the other doom games, that was free to be tampered with. It was also the last of the full sourcecode release doom games.

As much as I enjoyed the movie, I did not see why people thought Doom 3 was particularly different gameplay wise from the other games. It felt exactly the same to me. Melting things with the shotgun was about as satisfying as in the previous two. Once we cut out the PDA, the hard lighting, and the need for a flashlight, the game is awfully familiar to a point where it's sort of... just like the originals?

I don't want to "master" what's already there any more than I would for the others. I'm not entirely satisfied with the game because I just... want more of it? Other games of it's era had this problem too. Doom 3, Halo 2, Half Life 2, FEAR, same problem. Not enough.
Doom 3 had such satisfying gunplay to me and I hate saying goodbye to it so soon. It was so short. The expansions added little except permanent closure to the story, guaranteeing there won't be more.

The closest there is (although not unsatisfactory) is Xim's Doom3 mod that adds the content into classic doom to be played with like any other gameplay mod. But if it were possible, I would have liked a custom, more unpredictable gamemode.

As an example, Soldier Of Fortune 1 & 2 both had modes like this. Customizable difficulties. 2 even went to the trouble of having a map generator.

It has the content length of a chicken wing. Those 27 levels are gone as soon as you're just starting to get used to it.

as one final sidenote, there is actually a Doom3 encounter randomizer mod, but it's tied to a rebalance mod that tries to make it play exactly like the other games, and it doesn't scramble the guns or stats either.

[livid wharf]

There are a few mods like Doom 3 Perfected and Phobos that add more content. I also wish modders had played with 3’s sandbox more though. In particular I’d love to see some mods with more chaotic levels and maybe playing with different environments like Doom 2 did (I think Doom 3’s flavor of action horror would work pretty well with a similar scenario to Doom 2 with a bit faster pacing and maybe some locations that are more recognizable like a hospital level or a theme park or something)

[vale wharf]

if you want more maps and levelpacks: https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-iii/tutorials/great-doom-3-modifications D3 modding almost died when D3 fileplanet and doom3world just kinda disappeared

[orchid warren]

Thanks, but I've been there.
The chicken wing problem persists.

Fileplanet, planetforums etc really killed it.

[quick lily]

I can't open my console, anyone know why?

Everyone tells me to press ctrl + alt + ~

But the ~ key requires me to press shift first

And it still doesn't work

[vale wharf]

try ctrl + alt + key below esc

[quick lily]

That is the key below esc

Doesn't do anything

[vale wharf]

even without pressing shift?

[quick lily]

Yes

[icy saddle]

What port are you even running?

[quick lily]

Steam bfg

[icy saddle]

That could be why? I’m not a Doom 3 geek so I can’t tell you if BFG has a console or not.

I would say just check your binds

[quick lily]

I got more console errors than anyone should have

Disabling achievements because I opened the console

Which I didn't btw

It's a well known bug in BFG edition

[vale wharf]

first you need to add +seta com_allowconsole 1 to launch options
then just press tilde

[quick lily]

Launch options?

[vale wharf]

right click it on steam then go to options

[quasi silo]

Right click on game in library, properties, look at the text bar

[quick lily]

Alright I'll update you

IT WORKED

Thank you so much

"Happy maledict" he wasn't so happy after I ||shoved the artifact up his throat||

[earnest matrix]

A person who knows console commands, you know the game well.

I have even learned a few most recently and they are great to know.

Yes, DooM 3 has the ability to access a developer's(?) console but it has to be enabled via a setting. So, that advice has already been given. It's built into the idTech engine technology I believe so it spans multiple generations of releases since at least DooM 3 and even further back into the Quake series I believe.

[tall wolf]

What does Doom 3 Collector's Edition for Xbox has?

[vale wharf]

rekt https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2071641995

[rain flame]

Does BFG edition have cloud saves on Steam? cause I think I just lost my saves 🥲

[quasi silo]

You can check by just entering the library page for it, it'll show you the cloud status next to the play button if the game has cloud saves

[rain flame]

I wasn't on the pc that had the game installed at that moment, when a game isn't installed, the cloud save status doesn't appear

[quasi silo]

Ah, I see

[rain flame]

So I just probably lost hours of playtime 🥲 going to suck playing all that again

I should have backed them up

[earnest matrix]

That's bizarre to learn. I'm playing through regular DooM 3 right now and all the saves are local to my hard disk.

Cloud backups should always be a supplement to the local saved games, not the exclusive method.

[icy saddle]

games that do cloud only saves shouldn't even be considered games

[earnest matrix]

No doubt, that sounds like a strong-arm tactic to get people to eventually accept "cloud-only" pay for play.

[icy saddle]

and I'm referring to singleplayer titles, by the way

I know online games would have to store that stuff on the server

[earnest matrix]

Yes, having your local saved games backed up to the cloud is fine, but that being the only place? That's ridiculous.

[icy saddle]

yeah

to me that's just another form of DRM

and I despise DRM

[earnest matrix]

Yes, the more developers/publishers can control the where/when/how of the games we play the more money they can charge us and get away with it. Games-as-a-service is not a concept I buy into now or ever.

[rain flame]

Actually, that's not the case. Maybe I didn't word it right. I lost me local saves and was hoping steam would have my back with the cloud saves, I have a vague memory of it being available for this game but apparently it isn't

[earnest matrix]

Oh, I see. Yes, that would have been nice. You know with a special console command you can restart your playthrough at any level in the game. It's not even cheating, just starting the game at that point.

Although, now that I think about it, the levels would have to be self-contained as far as not requiring any PDA/item from any previous level. And so far, from my personal experience playing through the game, that is the case.

[earnest matrix]

So, the good news is that you don't really have to play through all the levels you have completed again to finish the game right where you lost your saves.

[rain flame]

Oh, hmm, I'll try it

Thanks for the help

[rain flame]

@earnest matrix Just installed the game and it indeed does have cloud saves. What a relief
Steam pranked me by not listing it in the game features and the 9 year old posts on steamcommunity complaining about the unavailability of cloud saves also scared me LMAO

[earnest matrix]

My version is original DooM 3 and by way of GoG client. I'm not sure if I get cloud saves because I use the 'Dhewm3.exe' so that it doesn't cause problems with the product keys. I have valid keys but after awhile it says they aren't and then it causes problems.

Does anybody here know if all the DooM 3 levels can be played/completed without any requirements from a previous level?

I wonder what weapons you would have, though, because those are introduced at specific locations. So, if you didn't pick one up from a prior level, that might be a problem.

The BFG is not a weapon that is heavily populated in the game levels.

Of course, again, with a special console command, you could grab the weapons that should have been acquired at that level. So, it's all doable without saves but saved games are easiest in the end I guess.

[orchid warren]

Doom 3 cannot be pistol started

It relies on progress too much.

Unlike Doom 1 & 2, it's not secretly a puzzle game.

[wraith pumice]

anyone else thinks the ROE super shotgun is one of the best versions of the weapon?

I like everything about it

good model, very powerful, good firing and reload animations etc

[earnest matrix]

Well, maybe the pickup of weapons but I don't think anything else carries across levels.

So, if you knew what weapons were acquired at which levels, you could simply give yourself those weapons and proceed.

[quasi silo]

What about PDAs? They're not mandatory but they carry over I believe

[earnest matrix]

Good question, but I honestly don't think they carry over. Mostly just entertainment for story or locker codes for pickups but...I could be wrong.

I'd also like to know whether there are levels that employ infinite respawn if player doesn't agressively advance through the level. I got a sense there was most recently but not 100% sure on that either.

[quasi silo]

Why do you think they don't? They are added to your inventory and are missable, they have to carry over

[earnest matrix]

So, how are they "missable"? They give you security access to certain areas of each level as well. If you miss one you're probably not gonna be able to finish a level.

Why would they give you a code to a locker 7 levels in advance?

How would you finish the game?

It would be a deadlocked game at that point.

"Hey, let's design this game so that if players miss something in one level, they can't finish it and they will rage quit!". "Yeah, great idea".

[quasi silo]

You don't need all of them. Most of them give you locker codes like you said, but those are not necessary for completion, so not everyone looks for them

[earnest matrix]

Which was my point from the beginning. You can start at any level you want and still finish the game, just give yourself the weapons that you would have already acquired up to that level. Once again, just loading a back saved game is easiest so this is just if you feel like you wanna replay again but not from scratch or if you lost your save games. It's just the next best way to finish without losing all your hard work.

[quasi silo]

Ah, I thought you meant carry across as in between levels, not in terms of progress. My bad.

[vale wharf]

afaik even if u don't give yourself weapons the game gives you starting weapons if u warp to a level without loading a save

[earnest matrix]

I guess that's the default and the developers are just assuming you want to play it like your God? 🤷‍♂️

I'm not sure why the developers would tie the level warp to your weapons inventory because I think that's a separate command you can use.

I'd like to find a website with all this metadata aboute each level. Like what level each weapon is first available for pickup and how many times thereafter. I think the BFG is only placed in one level and if you miss it you just don't get to use it. But that's just me guessing from my playthrough.

[quasi silo]

It's in two, you get it in Delta 2a and CPU Complex (Kelly boss)

[scenic stratus]

There's also one in a martian buddy cabinet

And in hell, but its taken away at the end

[earnest matrix]

Those are spoilers. 😦

[scenic stratus]

WELCOME TO THE MESS HALL dies

this is such a goofy ah line i love it

[earnest matrix]

22340 in this channel?

Or is it 22,340 spread across the whole server?

[slate void]

They should totally make a movie about this game featuring the rock and Barney from half life(that one guy from the boys)

[vale wharf]

its me the rock, barney from black mesa

[hardy mica]

help i am stuck and possibly softlocked

nvm figured out how to no clip

glad they didnt remove it for doom 3

[quasi silo]

What happened anyway

[earnest matrix]

I got stuck before and just had to kill myself. I didn't learn about the "no-clip" trick until later on. What level did you get stuck on?

None of the developer commands are ever removed, at least I don't think so.

[hardy mica]

I got stuck in alpha lab at the stairs i got stuck on the debris

Wouldn't let me crouch

[earnest matrix]

I'd love to see that screenshot. I'm trying to remember where I got stuck. It was this room where there was a big piece of machinery in the middle and a bridge that was broken up high. I can't remember the exact level though.

[hardy mica]

bro i wish i kept it saved

[hardy mica]

anyway to reenable achievements

when u use console it dissables them but I didnt know that anyway to reenable

[rain flame]

just don't save after using console or after you get that disable message

and reload last save file

[earnest matrix]

Is it possible to play DooM 3 in 3rd person mode, or can you switch the camera back and forth between 1st/3rd person views? I wanted to take screenshots of my character for the next time I get stuck on any level.

[vale wharf]

you can use pm_thirdperson console command, or bind keys for pm_thirdperson 1 and pm_thirdperson 0

[earnest matrix]

I'll try these next time I play.

[modest mural]

I got the red doom guy skin for eternal from this game but its not showing up. Any tips?

[wraith pumice]

is there any addition/change in the BFG Edition that you guys actually would consider to be an improvement over the original?

the only one I can think of is playing the game at 120 fps

[rain flame]

flashlight is attached to the gun now afaik, so that would be an improvement for some people.

And also, I think BFG edition is the only one which supports steam achievements

[hardy mica]

yo quick question I am trying to go for 100% what should I do raise bridge or do parkour in alpha labs sector 4

[vale wharf]

*shoulder, not gun

[little spire]

raise bridge

[earnest matrix]

"Some people" is right. Cry babies. 🙂 I'm surprised to learn that BFG Edition supports Steam achievements but this gives rise in my mind to a new question. It is not then, the BFG edition which adds achievements but the "Steam" edition of the BFG edition? Mine is with GOG, so I'm curious to know now whether it supports achievements or not.

Although, since I had to use the dhewm3.exe file to get around the annoying multiplayer complaints about an invalid product key, given to me directly by GOG...btw...I guess I wouldn't be able to participate in those achievements either.

[rain flame]

I don't know about GOG, but yeah, steam edition definitely has achievements for the game including DOOM 1 & 2 and Doom 3's expansion

[earnest matrix]

That's very cool to learn, I'm hoping that the BFG edition is how the achievements come, regardless of the delivery platform. What type of achievements are they, i.e., single/multi-player? And do you have an idea of how many in total by chance?

If the achievements are exclusively or even mostly single-player achievements than I don't see any requirement for it to be tied directly to Steam but I could be wrong I guess.

[rain flame]

There are 65 achievements in total, including those for Doom 1 and 2, and yes, it includes multiplayer achievements (multiplayer is dead though)

[earnest matrix]

65...that's a nice number....if it was all related to DooM 3 but spreading them out over the prior 2 generations....uhg!

Yep, I guess most people have moved on to the newer versions of DooM 3, i.e., the 2016, Eternal and the upcoming Dark Ages soon will pretty much keep the vanilla DooM 3 multiplayer in a state of sleep for a long time to come I would guess.

[rain flame]

Most of them are for DooM 3 and it's expansion though

Like only about 15 (or less) are for 1 and 2

[hot stratus]

I really like doom 3

Probably alot more then other people

I'm sad it gets alot of shit

[tidal snow]

Doom 3’s kinda silly

[quasi silo]

...how

[spice herald]

doom 3 is probably disliked so much since its a doom game that dosnt feel like a doom game really but most people who played it were doom enjoyers

[icy saddle]

Doom 3 actually feels like a Doom game

Eternal, however, doesn't

[spice herald]

really?

what would you say a doom game feels like then

[icy saddle]

Eternal strays completely from what the other games set

Doom's a game about heavy resource management and combat puzzles

Eternal, however, deviates from both completely

[spice herald]

would you say 2016 feels like a doom game?

[icy saddle]

Eternal gives you every single God damn resource in infinite amounts

[icy saddle]

Much closer than Eternal is

[spice herald]

thats an interesting take

[icy saddle]

it still has the near infinite resource issue as Eternal but not as horribly

mainly because the chainsaw isn't also infinite

also, another point

every other game prior to Eternal focused heavily on horizontal combat

Eternal focuses on aerial combat much more

[spice herald]

i would imagine you are looking forward to dark ages then?

[icy saddle]

honestly, yeah

it is much closer than even 2016 from what I've seen

mainly because it also apparently focuses on dodging projectiles like the older games

[peak saddle]

All Doom games are worthy of Doom moniker and feel like "Doom" whatever that means, since absolutely each main entry has its own take on how it plays.

The ones who trash Doom 3 are mostly casuals who just found out about Doom when Eternal came up

[icy saddle]

thing is that a majority of the mainline games play nearly the same with the exceptions of 2016 and Eternal

both are very good games, but you can't deny they are different

[peak saddle]

2016 plays more like Doom because there is non linear level design. Eternal is mostly linear with secrets in plain sight.

The combat is where those two shine though

[icy saddle]

I will agree 2016 is much closer to the originals than Eternal is

my main point was that Doom 3 was really never the "black sheep" of the series

as it plays much more like the prior games than what people consider a "Doom game" (basically Eternal, seeing how popular that got)

[peak saddle]

Eternal brought in a lot of new eyes to the series though.

It has the best combat out of the Doom games, for me...

[icy saddle]

with the consequence people see the older games as "not Doom games"

especially Doom 3

[peak saddle]

But some story aspects... become cringy

[icy saddle]

and the rise of people saying Brutal Doom is the "only way to play the original games correctly"

mainly because they've only played Eternal and see anything else as incorrect

[peak saddle]

I have a feeling this new Doom crowd (most of them) dont even care about the classic Doom games but they dont bad mouth it because its still popular if it makes sense

[icy saddle]

like, I guess?

I'm not much of a fan of 3, but I will defend it heavily

mainly because 3 fucks with my anxiety so I can't really enjoy it

[peak saddle]

Im a fan of all of them. Even the mobile RPGs

[icy saddle]

I still need to try the RPGs

[peak saddle]

I think I even played those obscure commercial packs like Lost Episodes / Hell to Pay

Dont recall quite enjoying those though

[orchid warren]

I really liked Doom 3, but I was disappointed that it just wasn't scary

[hardy mica]

So playing doom 3 I'm about to finish mission 11 I heard there are differences between bfg and the og one and now I'm thinking of just catching up in og really quick and play og but is it worth it ?

[orchid warren]

I would begin to take sitcom tier pauses when a jumpscare happened because it was so obvious and you could see it coming from a mile away.

There were way too many of those.

[orchid warren]

Get both, play BFG for achievements, keep original for mods.

[hardy mica]

Should I play og tho

[orchid warren]

If you want? It's just more of the same but with darker lighting and harder flashlight.

However, there are some details the expansion's BFG version skipped.

[hardy mica]

But ain't there an entire section missing and it's apperantly scarier

[orchid warren]

It's not really that scary, if you're not scared now you won't be then.

it's the same game.

[hardy mica]

Even tho bfg is comedically scary shits hilarious but for 2005 standards it makes sense

[orchid warren]

since you're on BFG, play in this order.

3 > Lost Mission > Resurrection Of Evil

You won't have much of a desire for more after that.

outside of gameplay that is

also it was 2004

D3 competed with the likes of HL2 and Halo 2, so it's understandable that it shrunk into obscurity

it also costed like $50

[hardy mica]

It's honestly a very enjoyable game i think people who complained about it really just need to learn how to play games it's different but very enjoyable and the shotgun and flashlight debate is just a get good thing it really isn't not that hard to use the shotgun effectively

[hardy mica]

I got all doom games for 30

[orchid warren]

I'm aware, it's cheap NOW

but in 2004, you were only getting ONE for christmas.

[hardy mica]

Yeah for sure

[orchid warren]

the shotgun is cartoonishly overpowered

[hardy mica]

Doom 3 is a technical marvel it took us over 10 yrs to effectively surpass og doom 3 engine it was that good

[orchid warren]

I mean it was good but not that good

[hardy mica]

Really good main complaint is the animation but to me it ain't an issue

[orchid warren]

half life 2 was right next to it on the shelf

[hardy mica]

It really was it came before half life 2 thats the thing people forget it came out 6 months before it really did take the fps genre and changed it completely on its heading add the horror aspect of it and mainly the visuals for today's standards it isn't impressive but back then it was stupendously amazing

[orchid warren]

I think the problem with Doom 3 is that there's no way it wouldn't write itself into a hole

[orchid warren]

It's pretty impressive even by today ngl

[hardy mica]

Ofc

[orchid warren]

however, it's focus on visuals sort of took me out of it

the scare factor starts to really disappear when you think it's basically saying "LOOK AT THAT! cool right??? LOOK AT THI-"

[hardy mica]

I love the visuals It was one of the main reasons I fell in love with og doom

[orchid warren]

it's somehow easy to get lost in the maps despite them being highly linear

[wraith pumice]

this Serious Sam 2 enemy looks quite familiar

[hardy mica]

And yes the jumpscares are cartoonish but the atmosphere and sound and visual horror design is immaculate

[wraith pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465235452148842518/1322479520539742228/Zombie_Soldier.png?ex=67710688&is=676fb508&hm=7a96ab6c995cddc38c3eab0422256631edcc0f1d99a145f6137618f2bef222a9&

[hardy mica]

Lmao

[orchid warren]

nearly everything had a crazy high poly render that it was scaled down from

[hardy mica]

Doom 3 took doom and said yes it's fps but make it horror fps and

[orchid warren]

I'd post a picture, but I can't.

[hardy mica]

Yeah that's almost how they even made the classic doom enemies by rendering them from irl models

[orchid warren]

the horror angle really isn't felt besides the visuals and sound tbh. It felt like a section in The Master Levels after you get the chainsaw

[wraith pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401780857511084032/1322479085544275979/Chaingun_Commando.png?ex=67710620&is=676fb4a0&hm=97e664edf365976afcac744604d49768a64807b81c42b5ea2afcbbc7bda07e7e&

[hardy mica]

Agreed I tho love it idk maybe I'm enjoying the very cliche story it's just a very cozy game that I am enjoying

Not like "cozy" cozy but like comfort food

[orchid warren]

you're really not far from the ending, it's almost over

[hardy mica]

Level 17 i believe

[orchid warren]

goes by quicker than you'd think

and then you'll be sad because the gameplay was so nice but there's no real modding community

but since it's not really that different from doom 2 you won't notice when going back to it.

[peak saddle]

Doom 3 had a pretty solid modding community. It kind of died with the doom3world forums. There are hundreds of custom maps that are id quality as well as custom expansions (Phobos) and Total Conversions.

The sdk containing the game code was available early and it spawned nice mods with changed gameplay. And since tje full source code there are a few impressive source ports

[earnest matrix]

Almost over at level 17? That's just over half way through if you consider that there are 27 levels in total.

I'm having a total blast playing through DooM 3 right now. I will admit I get frustrated at times because of how they constantly use ambush tactics to kill you with their magical "spawns out of nowhere" and almost always behind you or in a dark spot you can't see. But you just have to say, "Okay, I know what's gonna happen next now" and take it a bit slower or do something different next time. And that get's me through the hard parts.

[quartz gust]

I need a CD code to enter the game? What do I do?

[icy saddle]

if you're on Steam, it should be under Manage > CD Keys

[quartz gust]

Ok

Where do I go for that? Settings?

[icy saddle]

Right-click Resurrection of Evil

[quartz gust]

I right clicked on DOOM 3 and it is invalid

What do I do?

[icy saddle]

I honestly don't know

[quartz gust]

The code that I got when I right clicked is the same code that was on screen

[icy saddle]

I ran Doom 3 under dhewm3 and experienced no issues

[quartz gust]

Should I try entering that in?

[icy saddle]

no, dhewm3 is a source port

sorry for not having elaborated on that at all

[quartz gust]

So what do I do now?

[icy saddle]

like, you could try setting up dhewm3

[quartz gust]

How do I do that?

[icy saddle]

it's on the website

[quartz gust]

My smooth brain probably can't figure it out anyway

Lol

[icy saddle]

it's actually clearly explained

[smoky umbra]

very nice

[tall wolf]

Is it possible to use Doom 3 2019 edition on a Doom 3 BFG Edition source port?

Or do you mandatory need the Doom 3 BFG Edition from 2012?

[tall wolf]

Since it's basically the same

[vital zephyr]

Would anyone be willing to help someone get the 3-person multiplayer achievement in BFG edition real quick?

Trying to find this guy a third and got no responses. I would really appreciate any help 🙏

[whole pendant]

(Relating to my messages in #classic-doom) & here's Peter's The Quirks of German Doom³! https://youtu.be/O07sxbiSQYo

[scenic stratus]

Help. I am trying to launch DOOM 3 BFG Edition but it wont launch

it says it runs in steam but then quits, can someone please help me?

[tall wolf]

Try using a source port for Doom 3 BFG Edition

RBDOOM-3-BFG for BFG Edition and dhewn3 for the original Doom 3

[scenic stratus]

Set launch options", add the following: +set r_fullscreen "0"

[scenic stratus]

where do i put that?

Steam console

In properties

[wise iron]

Doom 3 BFG edition where is the weapon zoom button for the keyboard?

I am playing the PC steam version of it

On original Doom 3 I can zoom with weapon

[scenic stratus]

Check key bindings

I remember it being z

[wise iron]

There is no option for zoom

[scenic stratus]

Looks like it was removed sorry

[inland apex]

Hi, I borrowed my bro's Quest 2 VR kit and wanna play Doom 3 in VR. After some issues (like with default.cfg not loading or so) I finally got it working through a fresh install and putting the Fully Possessed mod into Doom 3 folder. VR works perfect when I click on the Doom3BFGVR.exe in the folder location, but it doesn't activate or run through Steam. Anyone know a way I can get the game to launch in VR through Steam so it'll track playtime, achievements, etc?

Nevermind! I think I got it by redirecting the .exe file in the launch options

[inland apex]

Unbelievably difficult trying to get controls set up for Doom 3 VR.

[tall wolf]

BFG Edition doesnt have that

[peak saddle]

Its bind _ZOOM in console

[tall wolf]

Didnt know it. Thanks for sharing it

So it only works on BFG for PC right?

Doesnt work on BFG for 360 and PS3 or 2019 Edition for PS4, One and Switch, right?

[peak saddle]

I dont know never played those

You should play either vanilla with dhewm3 or bfg with rbdoom3bfg for updated renderer

[inland apex]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/208200/discussions/0/597389045092363418/ If anyone feels like helping out! Would be appreciated!

[outer pecan]

doom 3 is what introduced me to the franchise, i remember playing it once when i was like 7 or 8

thought this franchise would never return but then behold.. doom 2016

[outer pecan]

i wonder how this game would do if they done an HD remaster like imagine doom 3 with doom 2016 graphics

[scenic stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W3Wmz0aR0o best nine inch nails track

[quartz gust]

Me when I can't get into the game be like

Lol

I tried to enter the key and it doesn't work

Never mind, I also had to input the key for Resurrection of evil

Lol

How do I change the screen resolution for DOOM 3 to 1920 x 1080?

[quartz gust]

And now I shall ask is it possible to 100% complete DOOM 3 because I have not played the game yet LOL

[quasi silo]

Yes

It's just rather difficult

[quartz gust]

It's possible to 100% complete it?

[quasi silo]

I just answered that

[quartz gust]

Sweet thanks

[quartz gust]

I was just confirming lol

[quartz gust]

I'm willing to do it LOL

[quasi silo]

Well good luck then

You need to beat Nightmare

[quartz gust]

Thanks. I'm a completionist at heart lol

[quasi silo]

Enjoy

[quartz gust]

Oof. I know I'm going to have "fun" with that lol

[quasi silo]

Oh it's probably the hardest 21st century NM

[quartz gust]

Greeeaaat

[peak saddle]

Go on id tech 4 discord server and ping the author. His @ is Samson

[wise iron]

What is the best way to take out all bosses of the first campaign?

[blissful gulch]

if you're a speedrunner you can get an early bfg lmao

other than that i dont remember

[quasi silo]

Don't surgarcoat it with the penultimate boss, use the ||Soul Cube|| and some RPG blasts

[inland apex]

Thanks very much!

[quartz gust]

What's the difference between the original DOOM 3, the BFG Edition, and the resurrection of evil version

Oof

[quasi silo]

RoE is an expansion to the original, not its own thing

DOOM 3 vs BFG have different lighting, BFG has double ammo and a mounted flashlight, achievements, native OOB widescreen and other minor differences, plus it comes with botched ports of Xbox 360 DOOM (it's fine on Xbox though)

[quartz gust]

Which version should I play?

[icy saddle]

I personally suggest the original

though it'd be better to set up a source port like dhewm3 prior to playing

[quartz gust]

What is dhewm3

[icy saddle]

A source port for Doom 3 that adds some modern QoL like widescreen support, gamepad support, 64-bit support

some other stuff

also mod support if you're into that, I guess

[quartz gust]

No thanks to the mods but how do I get it

[icy saddle]

you can yoink a release of dhewm3 Here

for instructions on how to actually get it working, it should be on it's homepage

[tall wolf]

That 2019 Doom 3 port should have had the original version and the BFG Edition to choose from

Original with base game + ROE and BFG with base game + ROE + TLM

[wise iron]

It's not that easy to merge them because game engines are different

[eager mauve]

What do I have to change and in which .def files so that the models don't burn away when they die, and so that I can have them left as Ragdolls?
I've tried, for example, setting the "burnaway" ".5" to "0" in monster_demon_imp.def, but the Imp ends up disappearing.

[scenic stratus]

Its in the script folder from pak000
Open ai_monster_base.script and put a “//“ at the beginning of lines 672, 673, 674, 675, 676, 677, 678 and 690

[scenic stratus]

Or just download nitro gore or ungibbable but with those mods you wont be able to gib zombies

[wraith pumice]

og xbox port. the shotgun seems to reload slower

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/216692479531941889/1326531175874953278/shotgunreload.mp4?ex=677fc3ee&is=677e726e&hm=f763758d8165622e349d323fceedbf03bd93e1bd20cc2e36af98c8b3da09cbb3&

[ember verge]

first doom I played, never finished

because I was 6 when I first played, and I was scared of it my whole life since

[minor flume]

I have it on my series x because it's on game pass, idk if I'll finish it because I don't really like the tone of it, feels more like a half-life game than a doom game, at least in the first part

Don't judge a book by its cover I guess

[eager mauve]

Can someone tell me where I can find demos (preferably in original .demo format) of Deathmatch from Doom 3 (original).

[scenic stratus]

i installed this on my shitty old phone and it mostly runs 💯

[compact stream]

i was scared of spiders so bad

i applied some speedrun strategies only to skip the trites parts

[winged heron]

I played doom 3 when I was 10

[bitter fulcrum]

this is because you have never played Doom 64 💀

[bitter fulcrum]

can this run on shitty PCs?

If yes, i'm going to ~~ pirate ~~ acquire this game right now

[rough current]

Hello

https://www.nexusmods.com/doom3/mods/1698

a little mod I made just before 2024 ended

[scenic stratus]

I haven’t played doom 3 is it good?

[icy saddle]

yeah

feels more like Doom than Eternal ever did

[tribal void]

Personally it’s not my favourite doom game, but it definitely up there. It’s a great game and I recommend buying it and giving it a try.

[digital coyote]

Should I buy base price or wait for a sale? Kinda not sure if I’d like it

[quasi silo]

Depends on what platform you are on, on Steam I'd buy buy buy, otherwise wait

[scenic stratus]

@digital coyote IMO buy on steam use dhewm3 with mods on Linux. Yes they went the horror route so its a lot slower than the originals.but I love it.

[bitter fulcrum]

got ignored 💀

[quasi silo]

I mean it's a 2004 game I feel like you didn't need to ask

[wise iron]

I made it guys:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1hyafir/marine_difficultydoom_3_bfg_edition_is_done/

[tall wolf]

Have you tried that UWP dhewn3 port for Xbox One/Xbox Series?

[hot stratus]

Honestly this was me for like half of 24 until I decided to suck it up and finish it

Honestly once you get going it's an amazing game

The guns are a bit ass though 😕

The shotgun gets shit on alot but for me it was generally reliable

Like a real 50/50 gun

It's good when you get a good shot

[dry karma]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130573-doom-3-ultimate-items-and-enemy-locations-guide/

This has been dead for quite some time because I really don't know what else too add. Any suggestions? Apart from doing Last Mission.

[bitter fulcrum]

yeah, it is a 2004 game. But maybe the source port required modern hardware?

Like Quake for example, its a 1996 game, but i Quakespasm runs like shit on my computer, even though it's an source port for a 1996 game

so i had to use Mark V WinQuake instead.

[quasi silo]

Play without dhewm3 then

[lone ginkgo]

why did they think that the fleshy head spiders were a good idea

[quasi silo]

When the horror game tries to be scary (shocking)

?

[lone ginkgo]

how do you not know where it says gullible

[quasi silo]

I'm just confused how this relates to what I said, like, at all

It's literally action horror

[lone ginkgo]

ah

i thought it was just a demon shooter

[quasi silo]

Guess that gullible statement didn't age well huh

[lone ginkgo]

what gullible statement? (i know i just deleted them)

[scenic stratus]

arachnophobia mode

[quasi silo]

Flashback to a peculiar discussion

[gleaming holly]

3 straight up horror game

[bitter fulcrum]

so dhewm3 requires newer hardware? (srry for taking 2 days to reply)

[quasi silo]

Probably. I'm not sure though

[vale wharf]

Maybe, iirc it's now a 64bit app

[bitter fulcrum]

well, but being a 64bit app doesn't mean it requires newer hardware

Most applications nowdays are 64bit, even the ones that can run on single core CPUs and 2 GB of RAM.

[icy saddle]

My launcher for 1 and 2 was actually 32 bit up until a few days ago. But I think your laptop could run Dhewm3. Even then, just try it lol.

[bitter fulcrum]

laptop? 💀

[icy saddle]

That was a lapse of my judgement, sorry

I’m half awake

[bitter fulcrum]

lol

[smoky vortex]

Hola

[earnest matrix]

I think the spiders are "okay", but every monster in a horror game cant be "the best" by definition, otherwise, they would all be equal and suck or "suck more" and "suck most".

||I think that the Sarge boss was pretty easy to kill.||

I don't know how to do spoilers

[vale wharf]

sarge boss can be tricky if you don't have BFG or a charged soul cube before you get to him

[scenic stratus]

But you dont have access to the BFG at that point

[vale wharf]

you can get it early from at least 3 levels before sarge boss level

[scenic stratus]

But it gets taken away before entering hell

You can also get a bfg in hell but you also lose it at the end of the level

[vale wharf]

oh right, might be misremembering things
I remember killing him quickly with a bulky gun, haven't replayed that level in a while, might've just been a rocket launcher

[scenic stratus]

Yea a soul cube charge and 5 rockets can kill him in seconds

[warm inlet]

Should i get doom 3? I really like the style to it

[quasi silo]

Yes, get it

[sand sierra]

great game

[icy saddle]

Yes

[twin roost]

Hey, is there a way to fix the screen tearing on the PC version of Doom 3

[quasi silo]

Try v-sync

It'll limit your fps to 60 though

[twin roost]

Ok

[twin roost]

And the game keeps Freezing.

[scenic stratus]

dhewm3 in borderless fullscreen (no vsync)

on windows that is

[slate void]

Why is doom 3 so long😭

[quasi silo]

It's just 5 hours long

[slate void]

Dang my playthrough is taking forever

[quasi silo]

The game is actually pretty short by modern standards

[vale wharf]

it probably feels long cuz its 27 levels

[lavish kestrel]

Same I felt like my doom 3 play through was super long

It’s a good game though I really enjoyed it

[heady wadi]

I only heard bad things but I might try it

[hollow tundra]

like half of the hate towards doom 3 is by people who have only barely or even never played it

[scenic stratus]

unbased people

[lavish kestrel]

Doom 3 is a good game overall I think people don’t like it because it is not connected to the original doom guy

[scenic stratus]

its always nudoom fans that shit on Doom 3

[celest egret]

I’ve never played doom 3, ive heard it’s more like a horror game than doom

[peak saddle]

Casuals who found out about Doom when Eternal launched and now are 'fans' of the series

[celest egret]

I found out about eternal last year and I consider myself a fan of the series

I also have never played doom 3 but I never said it was a bad game

[hollow tundra]

then maybe they arent talking about you

[celest egret]

Yeah probably

[quasi silo]

That's wrong, DOOM has always had horror in its DNA, DOOM 3 is very much a DOOM game

[celest egret]

But doom 3 from what I see is a lot slower paced compared to the other doom games

[quasi silo]

It gets fast paced later on

Also doesn't discredit its identity as a DOOM game

[celest egret]

I know

[icy saddle]

Non-nuDoom player here. My main issue with 3 is how weak most of the weapons sound. Excluding reasons I genuinely can’t play the game (none of which make the game bad), that’s my only issue.

otherwise, gud game

[quasi silo]

The weapons are punchy

Especially the reload sounds

[icy saddle]

I’ve always felt like they sounded like wet noodles, especially the shotgun and pistol

I do like 3’s plasma rifle but that’s basically it

[earnest matrix]

I've never given all that much thought to how the weapons sounds. I've been too focused on playing and finishing the game.

[scenic stratus]

@icy saddle Try doom 3 Trent Reznor sound pack.

[icy saddle]

would still need something to replace the OST tbh

it is one of the main reasons I actually can't play the game

actually, one of only 3

[scenic stratus]

Was fine to me but to each their own. I'm sure ya can find something .

[icy saddle]

I don't find it bad, but I find that it aggravates my anxiety

[scenic stratus]

How about Michael Jacksons Thriler.?

[icy saddle]

wouldn't fit with Doom 3 imo

because if I'm gonna replace the soundtrack, at least I'll pick something that still fits the setting

[scenic stratus]

I say it would work. I'm sure something out there.

[icy saddle]

if you find anything lmk please!

I genuinely wanted to play the game but the OST is preventing me

[scenic stratus]

Will do.

[scenic stratus]

doki doki literature opening theme ost

[earnest matrix]

Are you serious? I don't even hear music when playing DooM 3 so how does that work?

[icy saddle]

The ambience is technically a soundtrack.

[earnest matrix]

There's the opening theme on the "Load/Save" game screen which I find it to be badass as it progressively get's harder and harder but, other than that, in-game, I haven't even noticed a soundtrack.

[icy saddle]

Just listen to Quake's soundtrack, for example.

Bar a few of the songs, it's basically ambience.

[earnest matrix]

But Quake actually does have a soundtrack. Back then, which was way before DooM 3, they did that kinda stuff, it was literally regular audio CD tracks that would play as you played the game but even that was optional I think.

[icy saddle]

anyways

Doom 3's ambience causes me to get pretty bad anxiety, so I can't even safely play it

[earnest matrix]

What does that mean, does it scare you that much, keep you on pins and needles? It has made me jump a few times, playing the game but I can't say it's due to the ambient noises but maybe it is. Like, if it's out of nowhere but that was probably by design, to make people jump.

[icy saddle]

It's mainly a feeling on uneasiness

which that builds anxiety, and any amount of it is actually bad for me

I am prone to anxiety attacks, and they're not fun

[earnest matrix]

Okay, well, yeah, I kind of agree with you. It's a scary game to be honest and they did a good job of that.

[supple gull]

I wish there were more enemies in some areas.

[rare phoenix]

I wish some of Doom 3’s enemies came back in newer titles

Specifically the Bruiser it’s just a really cool design

[earnest matrix]

That would be cool, updated enemies with better graphics and small tweaks maybe.

[wraith pumice]

is there any way to own the Bethesda.net version of the BFG Edition on steam?

it's even worse than the normal BFG Edition due to more removed things, but I'm curious

[quasi silo]

Not anymore no

[upbeat gorge]

A hot take I have is that Doom 3 isn't that bad from what I played I like the expanded world and how it expands on the idea that the invasion was an inside job which was implied in the first game though with the pentagram in the secret room in Phobos Lab just further elaborated on here I also like survival horror so that's probably also a contributing factor

[daring otter]

I saw XBox Cloud has an updated Doom 3 25th Anniversary 2019 version. Is this cross-play compatible with PC's Doom 3 or BFG version?

[scenic stratus]

No

[quasi silo]

The 2019 version has no multiplayer so

[cold garnet]

Doom 3 is fun. I think the worst thing about the game are checkpoints at certain parts. Other than that it has its own pace and vibe that I think could be recreated for it's own side piece doom game.

[upbeat gorge]

Glad to not be alone

[scenic stratus]

Thank BFG edition for that

[errant tundra]

https://youtu.be/G3YDu0YoC08?si=XpOiydVI0LYjCtzV

[teal cave]

The Doom 3 fans are actually out there but you need to turn on a flashlight to see them

some random joke i found somewhere

[scenic stratus]

lol lmao

[scenic stratus]

having so much trouble finding out where to go on the first level

literally have looked everywhere i can go and its either a dead end or a broken door i cant go through

just going in circles and then more circles and more circles and not finding anything

found out where to go and turns out i was on level 3

[plain cargo]

That’s my favorite movie of all time lmao

That’s a really cool mod

[dense quiver]

Doom 3 was funny to say the least cause I made sure to shoot all the npcs

Even the friendlies in mars city lol

[icy saddle]

Don't let Anome see that...

[dense quiver]

Who’s that?

[icy saddle]

a friend of mine

[dense quiver]

Will he get mad or smth?

[icy saddle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

more just joking around tbh

[dense quiver]

In that case

Ima ping him :3

[icy saddle]

I suggest not doing that

[quasi silo]

I don't bite

Usually

[jovial apex]

bruh what happend to my doom 3, why do I need CD key to play when I bought in on steam?

[quasi silo]

It's just 2004 DRM. Find CD keys by right clicking the game in your library

[jovial apex]

says RoE key invalid and the key is the same as for D3

[quasi silo]

I don't remember how but there is a way to fix it, try googling it

[jovial apex]

bruh I had to also enter the key from resurection of evil

[sturdy cargo]

whats the best DOOM 3 to download,, BFG? or original?

[icy saddle]

Original with the dhewm3 sourceport

[sturdy cargo]

fuck yea

thanku

[outer pecan]

imagine doom 3 got an hd remaster

like a full graphical overhaul with improved textures and lighting

[cursive gulch]

Can the lighting even be improved?

The lighting in most games still isnt as realistic as doom 3

[bright tree]

Hey guys I'm having a small issue with my doom for some reason it started showing that I require a key but it's bought from steam of course

[quasi silo]

Put the keys in that show up when you right click the game in your library and press "CD keys"

[bright tree]

Thank you !

[sage eagle]

Where are my fellow bfg edition owners

[gusty bone]

where is my bfg edition coop mod 😛

[vernal sail]

I got it for PS3 (never playing that version again) and recently got it on PC.

Buuuut was thinking on trying vanilla 3 this time.

[tall wolf]

Did you know there is a Dhewn3 port for Xbox Series X|S? Not Doom 3, but the Dhewn3 source port

On Xbox dev mode

[quasi silo]

Really? Interesting

[tall wolf]

https://github.com/worleydl/dhewm3/releases/tag/hdr-alpha

this fork

[tall wolf]

there is a gzdoom port also

devilutionX for diablo 1

lots of game ports, retroarch, xbsx2 port of pcsx2

[flint jasper]

hi, I have a problem when running Doom 3 from Epic Games and it doesn't start, when I click it, it starts running, then synchronizing with the cloud and it starts again, I have already tried to put the executable compatible with Windows 7, I have updated directx and Microsoft C++, I have reinstalled the game and also, I have updated Windows and the truth is that I don't know what else to do in case you can help me

[tame sluice]

any tips for not dying 5 seconds after loading my doom 3 save

[civic kiln]

Get better

[tame sluice]

ok

[civic kiln]

No problem

[vale wharf]

if its a glitch or stuck in an odd place ig enable god or noclip cheat until you're safe again

[sage eagle]

I have the ps3 version

Look i see why some people don't like it but I do

Plus it comes with the dlc, 8 new levels and both doom 1 and 2

For younger me that was 3 games in 1 plus some free dlc, so i loved it

[quasi silo]

The PS3 version of Classic DOOM is objectively the best one of that generation, the UI just is soo damn ugly. Feels like a shovelware compilation

[tall wolf]

On classic doom, I always make a save at the start of the level when I get in a new level, and on the second slot Ill be making my checkpoints

If I mess up a checkpoint, I restart the level

I think you can do that on Doom 3 too

slot 1 is start of level
slot 2 are my checkpoints

or the quick save slot, doesnt matter

[tall wolf]

xbox 360 is good too, but only had ultimate doom, doom 2, and no rest for the living

ps3 had ultimate doom, doom 2, master levels for doom 2 and final doom

if you bought doom 3 bfg, you also would get no rest for the living (which was a timed xbox 360 exclusive)

[tall wolf]

yes 3 games (doom, doom 2 and final doom) plus their dlcs

I count final doom as a game, not a doom 2 expansion, since it is so big. Bigger even than base doom 2

[tall wolf]

Why get it there?

if epic has the original version of doom 3 included, you can try the dhewn3 source port

if you have the bfg edition from 2012, there is the rbdoom3 bfg source port

I think the 2019 version also works with rbdoom 3 bfg

I know Steam gives you the original from 2004 and the bfg from 2012. But I dont know which ones Epic gives you when you buy

[tame sluice]

thank you

[quasi silo]

It is better outside of the content amount

[quasi silo]

I think they meant DOOM 3 BFG

[modest ore]

Shame that the 2019 version of Doom 3 doesn't have multiplayer.

Like the OG Doom 3 and the BFG edition do.

[quasi silo]

The best version of the multiplayer is stuck on the original Xbox and X360 (via backwards comp.), unfortunately

[vernal sail]

Last time I attempted to play it again, loading times were horrendous, to put it lightly.

That's just my only reason tbh.
I did beat it completely and enjoy it.

[vernal sail]

Wait so there are now 3 versions?

OG, BFG, and 2019?

What does 2019 have? Non-mounted flashlight?

[quasi silo]

2019 is just the modern port of BFG to newer platforms. It only changes minimal stuff like the flashlight looking crisper and no multiplayer

I'd say OG, 2005, and BFG. 2005 is the Xbox version, which, is not a 1:1 port

[minor edge]

What does the XBOX version change?

[vale wharf]

og xbox version has coop built in, maps updated to support it, and also added a few things and effects to them
also has flashlight attached to pistol, and comes with D1 and 2

[vale wharf]

eg delta labs 4 starts you in completely dark corridors and rooms
imagine that and hearing incoming chainsaw sounds

[quasi silo]

The D1 and D2 inclusion is only for the collector's version btw

It is a pretty meh port from what I've heard, set the ground work for arguably the most influential DOOM official port though

[tall wolf]

Doom 3 Ressurection of Evil disc also has it

On Xbox Classic

[tall wolf]

The xbox classic version has flashlight attached to the pistol?

[vale wharf]

In Resurrection of Evil

[potent badger]

Should I buy doom three for four dollars?

I just did it

[tall wolf]

What about the PC ROE? Is it the same?

[tall wolf]

Of course

I didnt even play it but I know it is good

[tall wolf]

The Xbox 360 port?

Which is the most influential one?

[quasi silo]

Yes, I believe the X360 port is the most influential one

[tall wolf]

Because unity is based on it and doom + doom 2 is based on unity?

I dont know

[quasi silo]

No, because it added in high definition graphics, achievements, online multiplayer, and the first official classic campaign in 14 years

[vale wharf]

its different

[wintry cargo]

I'm finishing my first playthrough (Veteran) of DOOM 3 and I can't belive that it took me years to get started

also, the shotgun is completely inconsistent and got me frustrated in a lot of situations

[granite lion]

Scared ts outta me the first time I started playing

The original Doom 3 was so dark (the lighting), ammos were not as much as the BFG edition. I had issues playing the original so I switched to BFG

[wintry cargo]

it's a good horror game ngl

I can count the amount of times I pressed the sprint button

[granite lion]

the jumpscare when the doors are open always got me

commando and hell knights always spawned there

[cursive gulch]

I feel like that ammo thing isnt really an issue

Yeah theres less of it in the original game, but it isnt scarce

[granite lion]

nah what I meant with issues, is something that occurs while playing the original game... it just wont run on my laptop for some reason

Im fine with the ammo though

[clear vapor]

Doom 3 demons are always my favorites like they felt soo uneasy to look at its fascinating

[buoyant lodge]

It's actually really powerful if you can shoot enemies at point blank range with it, which is the case for imps teleporting in, zombies, cacodemons (because they're so big the spread isn't much of a problem)

D3 maps tend to be really cramped and most enemies are sluggish, which lets you run up to them and blast them. It's a very effective weapon

[wintry cargo]

@quasi silo in Veteran, they do too much damage, so I can't go point blank some times

also, that baby butterfly is badly annoying, 14 damage per hit and they hit 3 times in a row

[quasi silo]

I haven't played D3 on Veteran yet, though it is the hard difficulty so makes sense it's tougher to go point blank in than Marine

[buoyant lodge]

Yeah I mean, it's not a viable weapon to use in every situation, but then again, you're not gonna use the rocket launcher point blank either. Off the top of my head, most of the enemies you'll be fighting throughout the game are Imps, and they're hilariously easy to take down with the shotgun. During their spawn animation which takes like, 3 seconds to finish, you can just walk up to them and one shot them.

The little crawly dudes can be easily taken care of with just the pistol

[wintry cargo]

yeah, I know, I just started using more the plasma gun and the chain gun too

[wintry cargo]

idk if the PS4/5 version is different or is the difficulty, but I tried shot them while spawn and it's seems they have a invincible period

probably my aim is bad too

[buoyant lodge]

I'm not sure about the timing (it's been a while since I last played the game), but you gotta shoot them in the chest so none of the pellets will miss. If you do it right you'll get the hang of it

Don't try to go for headshots at all is what I suggest

[peak saddle]

Go for headshots. Damage scale on headshots is x2

[quasi silo]

Doing so with a shotgun will make most of your pellets miss, bad tradeoff

[peak saddle]

It means you cant shoot

Demons give a pretty long window to aim while they melee (back away) or while they prepare / thrown the projectiles

[buoyant lodge]

Does it? There's a reason people still talk about D3's shotgun to this day

If you use it properly it'll do its job

[peak saddle]

Yeah I dont understand them. They aim fine in 2016 / Eternal where the window to aim is much smaller but for Doom 3 they cant

[wintry cargo]

the spread of the doom 3 shotgun is ginormous

[wintry cargo]

I hate this and the destructive projectiles

the missiles from revenant is pretty annoying tbh

[quasi silo]

I counter the missiles with the PR

[wintry cargo]

Yeah, I learn that too

but at the end, it's a cool game
I enjoyed more than I expected

[pseudo token]

Doesn't doom 3 have an unlockable difficulty?

I freaking hate when games do that

[quasi silo]

It has Nightmare yeah

[pseudo token]

Thats lame

[unreal robin]

What is the best way to play doom 3 online? I know for classic Doom, would most likely be Zandronum and/if I want to host a server without port forwarding, the Doom I & II collection on steam, but what are best options for 3? For general population or if I want to host my own server w/out port forwarding?

[vale wharf]

original game multiplayer still works, it has mods and it still has a bunch of servers running if you can find ppl to play with

[grand bramble]

doom 2016 ultra nightmare

[slim willow]

https://youtu.be/lqO7mPmdhBw?si=W9MccL6dehzQv14I

[scenic stratus]

doom 3 roe without the artifact is kinda hard

[slim willow]

https://youtu.be/8Zl8oIla-x8?si=lTrv5aXy_ipMarfh

[vale wharf]

Dr Burger

starts both games if you have both base and roe, thats how it fixed it for me

[quasi silo]

You always have both if you're on any digital platform

[flint gyro]

I think it's funny how this is technically Doom 4

Or Doom 65

[pseudo edge]

hey guys im playing RoE

and the artifact breaks my framerate and freezes the game

[scenic stratus]

its that op

[crude badger]

Wish the doom 3 2019 port had been a mix of stuff from og and bfg edition

[winter bobcat]

try changing graphics to low

[pseudo edge]

it went away after level 3 also i have a 4070 super

but the artifact is unusable i dont know if thats means im soft locked but im getting by

[quasi silo]

You are gonna be soft locked yeah

Limit the FPS if you haven't done that yet, that might help

[pseudo edge]

it at 120 i thought about putting to 30 for when i need to use it

[quasi silo]

Put it to 60, I'm at 60 and it works for me

[scenic stratus]

aside from level 2 and 3
You can beat the game without using it

[quasi silo]

They're gonna be effectively soft locked

[pseudo edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978195685021208576/1336412198762840256/8mb.video-w1x-LihnaVYc.mp4?ex=67a3b659&is=67a264d9&hm=f633145e0e045a17dc37d9988c9e75ecd55e8e854aa2905378d95aa5b84577b6&

[quasi silo]

I don't think they're gonna want to spend a few hours on the ||final boss alone||

[pseudo edge]

watch what happens i did beat that fight tho

[scenic stratus]

With saves its really easy

[quasi silo]

And no Artifact?

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

[quasi silo]

Huh interesting

[scenic stratus]

You just have to hit him with hitscan

[pseudo edge]

which guns are hitscan?

[quasi silo]

The ones that don't fire physical projectiles

[scenic stratus]

And bfg/rocket it to death while he's doing the meteor attack

[quasi silo]

So like, you can't see the bullets flying

[pseudo edge]

alright thank you

maybe fps cap will fix it we will see

[crude badger]

Artifact breaks the game even more than the cube

[scenic stratus]

bruisers become a real threat without the artifact

[unreal raptor]

[pseudo edge]

Ok I beat the dlc with no artifact I'm based

[quasi silo]

I should have never doubted you

[pseudo edge]

wait are you meant to use it to counter the cyberdemon?

[quasi silo]

You can't go against the Cyberdemon with the Artifact, they're in different campaigns

[pseudo edge]

wait i think those are meant to be barons i dont know the one with the monitor on its mouth

anyways i beat the lost mission officially done with doom 3

[quasi silo]

Bruisers

Barons don't appear in DOOM 3

Well to answer your question, yes, but not really

You can use it to counter but you're not forced to, it works like with any regular enemy

[pseudo edge]

yeah i didnt know their name

i wish i could have used it to enjoy the dlc more but oh well it was a casual run before TDA

this game was really good actually

[quasi silo]

Yeah it's pretty fun

You should try the original version if you haven't yet, see if that fixes the issue

[lethal summit]

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[quasi silo]

?

[bleak vector]

Great soundtrack very splendid 👌🤌

[cursive gulch]

What kinda spam is this

[sharp rampart]

"OHHH MY PCCC"

Who wanna play doom 3 ?

[pseudo edge]

Because it's good and I was curious

[quasi silo]

The bias from modern DOOM fans against DOOM 3 because "it's not like muh Eternal!!!" is sad

[crude badger]

Its a shame

Hidden gem

[solar spindle]

Doom 3 is awesome

[pseudo edge]

Plus we have 3 months until the new game so go play it since everyone skipped it

[solar spindle]

I liek dhewm

[sharp rampart]

Who wanna play doom 3 ?

[quasi silo]

Oh you just made a typo

Oops, sorry about that earlier pal!

[scenic stratus]

damn

[sharp rampart]

Who wanna play doom

[sharp rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/boop-dead-chat-gif-13047480

who wanna play doom

[wise goblet]

In this server? Probably nobody. You're in the wrong place, pal

[sharp rampart]

well then whats the right place

[scenic stratus]

here

[sharp rampart]

ok but wanna play tho

[scenic stratus]

But what platform?

[sharp rampart]

bfg edition

[scenic stratus]

but are you on console or pc?

[sharp rampart]

pc

[wise goblet]

Does Bfg edition have coop or something?

[sharp rampart]

ye it has

[scenic stratus]

I remember it only had dm

[sharp rampart]

wait lemme check

[wise goblet]

I wish 2016 had coop. Doom 3 is kind of lame imo

[sharp rampart]

yeahhh ur right but we can play doom 3 og ver with opencoop mod

[sharp rampart]

its not lame its just a little different from the other doom games

[scenic stratus]

Ok just let me figure out how to install the coop mod lol

[sharp rampart]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjAlur8_7GLAxXExgIHHRIrK3MQFnoECBQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.moddb.com%2Fmods%2Fopencoop&usg=AOvVaw1mdDPVB2C6ro0Orqat71s7&opi=89978449

u download mod here

https://www.moddb.com/mods/opencoop/downloads/opencoop-alpha-20

[scenic stratus]

omw

[sharp rampart]

ok

[sharp rampart]

also also its a exe file im assuming you put the doom 3 directory and it does the rest

bro remove that u could get banned for self promotion

[quasi silo]

2016 has co-op

[scenic stratus]

BFG Edition's saves are language locked

[scenic stratus]

I kind of like the ending to DOOM 3 The Lost mission. It feels so funny to see a DOOM mission end on such a wholesome note with a nice old guy smiling at you and warmly saying 'Nice work, Marine.' and then the game just ends abruptly. Idk why I just find it weirdly interesting

Just some thoughts. It's been a while since I beat Lost Mission. Maybe I should give it another shot on a higher difficulty soon

[gray rune]

a horde mode would have been pretty fun for this game

[vale wharf]

try Last Man Standing mod

or Fragging Free

[gray rune]

thx I'll give it a shot!

[scenic stratus]

Closest I ever got to getting horded was when I was killing enemies ad nauseum in hell without realizing that I left an archvile alive

Hell looks so cool in Doom 3. And archviles are as insane as ever (I did replay DOOM 2 recently and lord...)

[scenic stratus]

What framerate does 360 BFG run in?

[tall wolf]

Targets 60 fps at 720p

I would send the source but I cant

It is pretty much an Xbox Classic game

Doom 1 and 2 there are 35 fps, I dont know why

[tall wolf]

Dont know if they are 720p or 1080p

But 3 is 720p60fps

[quasi silo]

That's how the game was on release

[wraith pumice]

lmao, so I was playing the og xbox port of Doom 3 and something interesting happened

an Imp damaged a Revenant with his projectile and the Revenant attacked and killed him

and I didn't do this on purpose

[vale wharf]

yep the game does have infighting you just have to get them to attack each other

[wraith pumice]

do you guys think Dead Space 1 and Doom 3 are comparable games?

both have a heavy focus on horror and are set in a place filled with monsters and most of the workers at said place are dead

[scenic stratus]

seems like somewhat standard plots

I have not played much of Dead Space 1 but from what I remember DOOM 3 is definitely a tad different

[vast flax]

They get compared a lot but I think the further you go into either the more different they become

Although the plot is hilariously similar at times

[slate grove]

I don't like this game that much but I'll play it a bit more

[scenic stratus]

k

[slate void]

Just beat doom 3 for the first time and I got a say I really enjoyed it. it was an amazing fps game to play on the switch and I really liked the demon and gun models and had fun gameplay. Tho it was a little long and some of the maps were repetitive and I disliked how little the berserk was used but I over all had a lot of fun playing it and I think doom 3 has the best 3D hell knight model

[scenic stratus]

I wish we could get an update on console to make sprinting holding the left trigger instead of clicking the left stick to turn sprint mode on and off on console. It's awful the way it is and unplayable for me. I loved how back on Xbox you just held the trigger when you wanted to sprint and let go to stop

Also the ability to play original Doom 3 with the flashlight would be awesome too.. I don't like the BFG edition as much

[scenic stratus]

Justice for DOOM 3

Yeah it's a cool game

[scenic stratus]

Exactly! I wish Bethesda cared more about it

[noble lichen]

I'm sure we'll get another rerelease some day

maybe nightdive will handle it, who knows

[slate void]

Doom 3 the movie

Should exist

[cursive gulch]

Have I got a film for you

[scenic stratus]

Dwayne Johnson moment (I have not watched the 2005 film but I hear it takes inspiration from D3 while also being unfaithful to the source material, tho still better than Annihilation from what I hear)

[scenic stratus]

Yeah those movies are awful. But Annihilation is really awful. I guess all you have to do is put the word Annihilation after your title to make it suck. Kinda like Mortal Kombat Annihilation

[solar bough]

Does anyone else realize the Japanese dub for Doom 3 is only in the BFG Edition and not in the original?

[cursive gulch]

That is because they hadnt made it yet

[solar bough]

How come they just didn't include it in the original just to add it to BFG Edition?

[cursive gulch]

There was nearly a decade of time before the original game and its remaster

[coarse timber]

Resurrection of Evil is Doom + F.E.A.R.

[scenic stratus]

Interesting

[cursive gulch]

FEAR didnt invent bullet time in FPS games

[clear vapor]

Thats max panye thaf did it first right?

[cursive gulch]

I think there was a half life mod that had bullet time before Max payne

[coarse timber]

But max payne is a TPS, meanwhile FEAR is a FPS, so the similarity with that and Doom 3 ROE can be "correct". Graphically FEAR and DooM 3 look a bit similar etc. So it was because of this

It just gave me the same vibes

[austere blade]

Doom 3 always gave me half life vibes idk why

[coarse timber]

I think it's cause they have the same premise, but one has Demons and Zombies the other has Aliens

[coarse timber]

Which version do you prefer vanilla or BFG edition?

[scenic stratus]

I only tried BFGedition without realizing it was BFG, since PS4 ver doesn't mention that it is the BFG edition 💀

Would playing the vanilla version on original xbox (which apparently has some level changes as well) make a substantial difference? I was thinking of getting t

[quasi silo]

It'd be a fairly different experience but you're still mostly playing the same thing

[fallen geyser]

i have changed my opinion on doom 3 doom marine

he doesn't look bad to me anymore it was just that one guy in roblox who chased me down in roblox as doom 3 marine who made me hate him

[woven flower]

Xbox doom3 is maybe the best Doom 3.
The layout changes are mostly unnoticeable (more or less doors), but the lighting looks better.
You get co-op too. People complain about monsters spawning behind you after every door, but this plays great in co-op.

[earnest matrix]

Well peeps, I just finished DooM 3. Kick Ass game!

[solar spindle]

Doom √(9)

[scenic stratus]

hell yeah

Nice work, Marine

[sharp rampart]

anyone play doom 3 bfg rn ?

[coarse timber]

Singleplayer or multiplayer? Which platform?

I'm going on a bit of Doom 3 hyperfixation in these days. I changed my mind about it, I love it as the other games

I didn't find it that scary, especially when you learn that being attached to an enemy with the shotgun or launching a grenade it's instakill

In doubt I'm playing Vanilla Doom 3 now

[earnest matrix]

Same here. The funny thing is I bought DooM 3 years ago and it sat on a shelf forever before I finished playing through the whole thing. It's a good feeling to finally finish a game I own. And it was not an easy game since I played through the Vanilla version.

I have the BFG edition of DooM 3 also. I hear that it was "made to be" an easier version, maybe, they got the idea to make it easier to play when they ported it from the master PC to the inferior consoles. 😮

I'm thinking I'm gonna play through it again someday and probably finish it 10x faster than I was able to the first time through. But I guess that depends on how long I allow myself between play throughs. If the time is long then I may forget a lot of stuff. 😋

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 on Xbox existed before the BFG changes, it's definitely not that 'inferior console' thing

They probably just wanted to make it easier to appeal to a wider audience

[earnest matrix]

Yes, and that "appeal to a wider audience" is fine by me. I mean, they do offer the 2 versions of instead of doing something really stupid like patching the game with the modifications so that nobody could play the vanilla version.

In the end choice is what it's about and everybody wins when you offer your customers choice.

[quasi silo]

Yeah.... on Steam only. Every single other platform only has the BFG version available; GOG got the original version too 3 years ago though

[earnest matrix]

That's kind of my point though. They finished porting it to consoles and then thought it would be a good idea to resell to a new generation (maybe?) on the PC. But I don't think the skill level is all they changed. There are (maybe) new maps or something. I'd have to Google it again to refresh my memory.

Iza about to say because I own both versions through GOG. 🙂

[quasi silo]

Consoles aren't inherently inferior, having a mouse and keyboard doesn't immediately make you way better at the game. My point is these changes were likely not decided because of the inferiority of console gameplay but just to appeal to a wider audience in general

BFG changes two maps in the game iirc, just removes some arenas. There's really no reason to play BFG if you've played the original unless you're curious

[earnest matrix]

I know, it was kind of a joke. Consoles are for people who "just wanna play games". I use my PC for everything under the Sun, not just gaming.

[quasi silo]

I can see that, didn't mean to come off as rude. I've got both a PC and a console and I don't mind playing stuff on PC, but if the option is available I'll take it on console, it's just my preferred way of playing

[earnest matrix]

Well, you may be right. If the differences aren't extreme or noticeable enough to warrant 10+ hours of my life again then maybe not but at the same time if I was considering playing through DooM 3 again anyway, because it's such a cool game, then I might go BFG just to get that slightly different experience.

[quasi silo]

It definitely won't take 10+ hours so I say go for it; repeat playthroughs are generally shorter, and this version is easier, so it'll shave off some time. There's achievements involved in this version so I'd be on the lookout for those if you want to squeeze as much out of your game as possible

BFG also has an exclusive expansion included; out of the box it's unplayable in the vanilla version but you can mod it in

[earnest matrix]

Ah yes, I think that's what I forgot about also. Achievements were added to the later versions since Steam wasn't really big at the time of the OGs release.

[quasi silo]

The size of it wouldn't matter since Valve wasn't accepting third-party games yet at that time. If they kept Steam exclusive to their products the gaming industry would be veeery different from what it is today 😛

DOOM games only came to Steam in 2007; pretty sure the platform was already allowing for third-party games in late 2005. The BFG Edition did actually cause the original release to be delisted, glad they reverted back! At least it wasn't as bad as what they did to the Xbox 360 versions in 2019

[earnest matrix]

Yes, I'm glad they evolved the way they did. It's a good service if you can stomach the copy protections and accept the facts that you are just "renting" the software and do not own it for life. Which, to be honest, is pretty sad. It's only because they think they can control people that they even write those types of licenses.

[quasi silo]

I honestly don't mind that. Steam makes so much money daily that it'd take a looot for the service to go down under. Though if I recall correctly they did once state they want to offer players a way to play their games if Steam ever shuts down

[earnest matrix]

And that would be the right thing to do. Especially since there are a lot of single player games that don't even require the Internet to be played. It's mostly using Internet just for patches/updates.

[quasi silo]

Though the digital industry being so popular now makes unpurchasable games a common issue in recent times; I've got a handful of delisted games but it's always a bummer to see one go away. There's a few games I'd love to pick up but they're delisted and never got a physical release :/

[earnest matrix]

Whcih games are you referring to?

[quasi silo]

Well for one, there's the Gameloft version of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and the Xbox 360 port of Sonic the Hedgehog. Those are my main delisted eye candy; unavailable in any way though

Would like to get my hands on them someday but as of right now there's no way to do so

[earnest matrix]

GOG is doing the right things by offering the old games w/o copy protection schemes and keeping the games updated for modern platforms.

[quasi silo]

Proud to have it come from where I live, but that's quite the unusual flex so I don't really bring that up much

[scenic stratus]

BFG edition was meant to replace og version on steam

[earnest matrix]

They probably just look at what's selling and whether they even wanna bother with keeping 2 different versions updated on the same platform. So they combine it all to keep things easier to manage. That's my theory.

[sharp rampart]

online ,pc

[quasi silo]

I mentioned that; #doom-3 message

[scenic stratus]

false

[earnest matrix]

My theory was that the BFG Edition came to be simply because it was being ported to consoles from PC and they did add a co-op mode which is a big plus for games on consoles.

So, across platforms the BFG edition isn't even consistent in the totality of it's feature sets.

Iow, on consoles BFG is this, on PC, the BFG Edition is that.

When you port a game from PC to consoles you can't just blindly make the game work. You have to tailor its specs to the platform it's being ported too. So, I imagine if they had just ported vanilla DooM 3 from PC to consoles without co-op mode there would have been outcries that could be heard for miles and miles.

Talking about this now, though, does raise the question in my mind. Why not add co-op to the PC version of DooM 3 right now? That would be cool as hell, to play through the entire game again with a second person who could help finish it even quicker. If they already got it done in the console ports, moving that code back into the PC version of the BFG edition wouldn't take much effort at all, I wouldn't think so anyway.

Does any console gamer here know if the co-op in the DooM 3 BFG edition works remotely between players or is it local only?

I would prefer the remote option personally so I get all of the screen to myself.

[quasi silo]

I think you've got something wrong; BFG unfortunately has no co-op mode. You're probably thinking of the original 2005 Xbox release which DID have co-op

BFG does have deathmatch though. The Xbox 360 and PS3 releases are online only; the PS4, Xbox One and Switch releases don't have the multiplayer at all

[crude badger]

I thought bfg on 360/ps3 did have online deathmatch tho?

[quasi silo]

Oh yeah that's right, sorry I have no idea how I got that mixed up. Fixed it, thanks

[earnest matrix]

Oh okay, so original port of DooM 3 to XBox had coop already and then BFG edition came later to it as well...or just never came at all?

[quasi silo]

The co-op is exclusive to the Xbox version, if that's what you mean

[earnest matrix]

Yes, thats interesting but I'm asking if the OG XBox port ever got the BFG edition in addition to the OG with coop?

[quasi silo]

BFG came out in 2012; the OG Xbox was already out of circulation by then, it'd make no sense to release it on an older platform. You could however play the original Xbox port on Xbox 360, and BFG released on X360 aswell, so you could unify the two experiences on one platform; just not on the original Xbox

[earnest matrix]

Ah, interesting so, they did release BFG for XBox-360, just not the OG XBox as the console was out of production. Thank You for clearing that up. The timelines are interesting.

As one console bows out another one steps in it's place. 🙂

[quasi silo]

Sure, if you've got any other questions I'm happy to answer. The original Xbox port has some differences, so I wanna get an Xbox 360 to play it some day. Especially with the fact that the collector's edition of it, or the standard version of Resurrection of Evil, comes with DOOM and DOOM II (and Master Levels in the RoE version), so it'd be neat to get to play through the predecessor to the Xbox 360 port of Classic DOOM

[crude badger]

Shame coop got shafted in bfg and the current release

[earnest matrix]

What version are you referring to when you say "current release"?

[quasi silo]

Latest one is the VR version but I assume the 2019 fork of the BFG Edition on PS4, Xbox One, Switch, EGS, Microsoft Store and Bethesda.net

[earnest matrix]

Well, whatever version he is referencing I would agree. The co-op could have been added to the BFG edition as feature. I would have liked to have seen that happen for PC where you could co-op over Internet. That would be idea for me.

[quasi silo]

There's a co-op mod for DOOM 3, at least

[earnest matrix]

That's amazing, do you know the name and have you tried it?

[quasi silo]

Co-op redux or something like that. I haven't tried it though, my internet is too bad to handle online play and I don't really have any friends that play vanilla DOOM 3

[scenic stratus]

open coop

[earnest matrix]

Looks like it would be fun to check out. I see they haven't touched the code for about 18 years though.

But maybe they don't have too.

[quasi silo]

The game is from 04 to be fair, it hasn't received updates so no major reason to tweak it

[earnest matrix]

If ain't broke, don't fix it. 🙂

[woven flower]

And quake 2

[quasi silo]

0g achievements

[glass roost]

What is the most efficient strategy to achieve Platinum Trophy in Doom 3: BFG Edition on PlayStation, considering the need to complete multiple playthroughs and collect all PDAs, video logs, and lockers?

[acoustic acorn]

pick em up while following a guide

create staggered saves in case of emergency. read comments in case that the video missed anything

[lone raft]

Is this the worst doom ever?

[quasi silo]

No, far from it

[scenic stratus]

nah i'll say that eternal is the worst

[twilit thicket]

doom eternal is a good game but a bad doom game 🔥🔥💯

[frank cosmos]

Couldn´t agree more

[crude badger]

Doom 3 best doom

[scenic stratus]

true

[cursive gulch]

Then why did they release BFG

[quasi silo]

So the game is on more than 2 platforms

[cursive gulch]

They changed quite a bit

[quasi silo]

They changed the flashlight because people criticized it. The rest can very easily be chalked up to lazy porting, not an intentional change

[crystal forge]

is this the worst doom game?

ive played all expect for this one

eternal,2016,1,2

[icy saddle]

Nope

It’s quite a good one

Also, you’re missing Final Doom and 64

[crystal forge]

any doom games left for me to plau after this one?

[crystal forge]

ooh ait ait

[icy saddle]

Final Doom is included in Doom + Doom 2

You need to buy Doom 64 separate, though

[icy saddle]

By the way, it’s separated into two parts: TNT Evilution and The Plutonia Experiment

But yeah, don’t skip Doom 3

[scenic stratus]

Im going to skip Doom 3 because my favorite doomtuber said it was slow and boring 😍

[coarse sphinx]

Blasphemy

[crude badger]

Missing out

[scenic stratus]

TMy least favorite doom I played so far is Plutonia

DOOM 3 is not the worst, I think it's good stuff

[worthy lotus]

I have not played past the going to see the commander or something

Like 10 minutes after getting off the ship

[soft quiver]

Is final doom considered a game itself? I didn’t know dat
Ik plutonia and tnt were officially released but i thought they were more akin to DLC or an addon

[meager wigeon]

Haven’t gotten this game yet

[cursive gulch]

I believe it'd be considered its own game

In the same way doom 2 is its own game