doom-3

[green canyon]

Would love to see a doom 3 remake

[green canyon]

along with chronicles of Riddick games

[cold turret]

there is classic doom 3 for doom

[true dock]

can anyone help us get multiplayer achievements for doom 3?

[hollow maple]

Anyone find original halo like 1 or 2 and doom 3 gameplay kinda similar but different at the same time

?

[misty abyss]

No because halo doesn't have such terrible shotgun

and you're not within cramped dark spaces as much

especially halo 2

[scenic stratus]

shotgun isnt terrible, its great

[misty abyss]

sorry but doom 3 shotgun is objectively an awful weapon, it only works at melee range and even then spread and damage RNG can easily fuck you over

[scenic stratus]

idk i completed whole game with shotgun only, youre probably just bad

[misty abyss]

your point?

[scenic stratus]

my point is that shotgun is a great weapon, it was fun playing with shotgun only, espescially later levels

[misty abyss]

my condolences

that you forced yourself to do that

[scenic stratus]

😀

[cold turret]

yeah doom 3 shotgun is terrible

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 shotgun is a good game but a bad Doom game

[abstract fable]

Lol

[strange valve]

If you get Doom 3 through Steam, then you get both.

[true dock]

can anyone help us get mutliplayer achievements for doom 3?

[bright finch]

is the multi dead?

[true dock]

sadly yes

like its literally impossible to get all multiplayer achievements if you dont find anyone to help you out

[frigid brook]

"BFF Edition" huh--

Anyway, if you have the OG Doom 3, play that one. The OG one is the way D3 was meant to be played.

Dunno how to help with the BFG edition

[misty abyss]

You can just take the wad outta BFG edition and play it in any sourceport available

much better than playing it inside BFG edition

[crimson rain]

hello im back

en me now got xbox game pass

[scenic stratus]

Anyone looking to get the DOOM 3 multiplayer achievements done?

[acoustic acorn]

are those newly added? I don't remember multiplayer achievements

maybe it's pc only? I don't have them on xb

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 BFG always had multiplayer achievements

[scenic stratus]

Anyone looking for people to play doom 3 with bfg or original game steam

Add on here I’ll add you on steam

[scenic stratus]

Add I have the open coop mod for the original doom 3

[lime depot]

I assumed the latter

Even HL had that fat guard who kept eating donuts

[heavy sandal]

is there dlcs?

is it only for consoles?

[frosty holly]

There is one AddOn called "Resurrection Of Evil"
I don't know if its still available for purchase

But if you own DOOM 3 BFG Edition, you get the DLC too.

And no, DOOM 3 is available on Consoles and PC

[quick lily]

Honestly DOOM 3 isn't that bad

Except for the Cacodemon

I HATE the Cacodemon

[acoustic acorn]

it's ugly but gets hard countered by chaingun

[abstract fable]

They butchered him so much. I refuse to call it a Caco.

[lime depot]

Hey! He's fugly but he's still my boy!

[quick lily]

He's white and not even round

[wooden karma]

If you think the cacodemon is bad, they massacared the imp

[abstract fable]

Cacos is more massacred in my opinion

[wooden karma]

they're both bad

[abstract fable]

I can agree with that

But the Hell Knight is peak

[wooden karma]

hell knight design peaked in doom 3 tbh

[abstract fable]

That's what I just said haha

[scenic stratus]

Anyone down to play some doom 3

[quick lily]

Mancubus is also pretty good

[abstract fable]

Mancubus is great, and Bruisers are extra peak

[frosty stag]

I'm down

[scenic stratus]

Which version do you have

[frosty stag]

all of em

bfg, normal, and res of evil

[scenic stratus]

Are you able to do coop camping on the bfg version if not we can do doom 3

[frosty stag]

ill try

gimme a minute

[scenic stratus]

You on steam?

[frosty stag]

ye

[scenic stratus]

1423543892 this my code add me

[frosty stag]

wdym ur code?

red?

sent

[scenic stratus]

My steam friend code

[frosty stag]

yep

can u host?

[scenic stratus]

Yea but bfg doesn’t have co-op campaign

[frosty stag]

freind me

[fierce timber]

The cacodemon is autist in doom 3?

[frigid brook]

I'll be honest, I've never touched D3 multilayer, not even OG! Imma need to add some of you later at some point. Right now I'm at work.

[frosty stag]

its quite fun

[bright badger]

i have 599 mods

[frosty holly]

If you go 600, you gotta go the extra mile to 666 Mods

[frigid brook]

I remember modding the shit out of OG D3 man-- Those were the days

[viral briar]

I wonder what will id do in Doom 3’s 20th anniversary that’s coming up in few months.

[frigid brook]

I fear - nothing at all.

At the very best, I think they'll just post a random picture on twitter saying happy anniversary and move on

[dark jolt]

Anyone know a good mod that adds third person?
Tried Sikkmod but doesn't work

[wind viper]

Bloody hell, 20 years already?

[viral briar]

20 years is a milestone, surely they might have something a little extra in store?

[frosty holly]

Expect nothing and maybe get surprised instead of hoping for something just to get disappointed.
Thats just the reality. Everything, even if the id Software Dev Team itself, wants to do something, it needs to get approved, planned, financed and checked by the legal team.

It's a massive machinery that needs to get going.

Welcome in 2024 Gaming.

[viral briar]

I see. I don’t expect much honestly, it’s why I said “a little”

Not expecting a huge celebratory stuff or whatever.

[frosty holly]

Don't get me wrong, im hoping for something too.
I love DOOM 3

But one thing is for sure.

id Software loves their fans, with their full heart! - I bet both of my balls on that

One of the last Studios, where people work on something, cause they fucking want to

nuff rambling from me now, swy >.>

[frozen sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJqWxI3ZjdY best ever line from Doom 3

[charred fossil]

Doom 3 is ASS

[abstract fable]

Main Campaign is okay, but I really liked Resurrection of Evil.

[charred fossil]

I mainly meant the demons

Design

[abstract fable]

Yeah not a big fan of them

Though it has my favorite Hell Knight and I love the Bruiser designs from the expansions.

[charred fossil]

If there's anything all DOOM games have in common its that they can't agree what a mancubus looks like

The caco is wack as tho

[abstract fable]

I thought Doom 3 Mancubus was a pretty good hybrid of Classic and Eldritch horror

[charred fossil]

Yeah

[abstract fable]

I think Revenants are probably the most extreme examples of inconsistency

[abstract fable]

Man I hate the DOOM 3 Caco. Refuse to call him a Cacom

[charred fossil]

Agreed

[abstract fable]

His design peaked in 2016, but he still looks so different from game to game

[abstract fable]

Have you seen the cut DOOM 3 Arachnotron? He actually really cool

[charred fossil]

No, but I'll take your word for it

[acoustic acorn]

they're not in the game https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Unfinished_Doom_3_monsters. Some concept art looks idk, fine

though the concept looks extremely similar to the mastermind in doom2016

[abstract fable]

That's why I said cut lol

[charred fossil]

Looked it up, SUPER COOL

[acoustic acorn]

oop

[abstract fable]

But the Phobos mod for Doom 3 has an in-game Arachnotron, and he looks amazing

https://youtu.be/WffvwRB419I?si=QP_u7idmcCbILZ53

This looks so much like DOOM 2016 in this video

I don't like how they modded the Hell Knights to be green though

[scenic stratus]

I got og and bfg add we can play sum

[frosty stag]

use the console, im pretty sure that there is a command that'll do it

[frigid brook]

pm_thirdPerson 1
However, there's no HUD, marine is awkwardly centered on the screen, only by changing pm_thirdPersonHeight to like 10 or 20 does it look a tiny bit better but still, not very useful overall.

[dark jolt]

Oh man,thanks for the tip.
I kinda thought there was something on console but the lack of HUD can really be an issue

[heady vortex]

Phobos out?

[abstract fable]

Tbh, I thought it has been out for some time

[heady vortex]

what i meant is EP3 is out and the entire campaign is completed. From the makers:

It's with a great deal of excitement and relief that I present to you Episode 3 of Phobos:

https://www.moddb.com/mods/phobos/downloads/phobos-episode-3-v30

I'm more proud of this episode than either of our first two releases, as I think it represents significant advancements from all of us in terms of level and combat design, visuals, story-telling, atmosphere and pacing. There is a tremendous amount of new content in here, and even some old stuff that had been placed on the backburner for years. For me, this episode represents some of the hardest work I've ever done in my life---scarcely a day has passed in the last 3 1/2+ years since our Episode 2 release that I haven't worked on one aspect of this project or another, and I think the same could likely be said for my team mates. The beginning of 2024 in particular has marked a period of constant work and relentlessly stringent testing. This isn't to say there aren't still bugs in this release, but I'm confident that those who've enjoyed our past work will love this even more. I hold a great deal of satisfaction now that it's finally out, and that we all can present it to a community as creative, innovative and inspiring as the Doom community. Personally, it's an honor for me to give something back to the community that has given me so many countless hours of gaming enjoyment over so many years, and undoubtedly has many more of the same to give.

Have fun.

[abstract fable]

Interesting. Haven't really caught up with Phobos stuff. Had no idea there was supposed to be a third episode lol

[heady vortex]

it was started around the time RoE came out i think. So nearly 20 years in the making

[abstract fable]

Well hot damn

[heady vortex]

this is a big deal for Doom 3 fans

[abstract fable]

I think if I were a PC player I would have looked deeply into Phobos, but I'm a Console player so I can't play it lol

But I watched some clips and videos of it here and there

[heady vortex]

well small hope bethesda adds it into their library of fan campaigns. much like they did for classic doom. small hope. very small

[abstract fable]

They should start with allowing WADs on the console port of 64 as well

[heady vortex]

i wonder if they can do that. I know Doom 64 is a heavily modified idtech1. Conversion could be harder, but i think Doom 64 is Unity on console right?

[chrome seal]

uh, how do i get doom 3 to fill up my entire screen?

i got a 1920:1080 resolution, but doom 3 seems to go up to 16:9

[potent iris]

do you have the bfg ver?

[chrome seal]

I do, currently installing that rn

@potent iris so, doom 3 (the BFG edition) also has a shit resolution, and crashes everytime

[potent iris]

Huh strange

[potent iris]

i dont have that issue with bfg so i cant help you sorry

[chrome seal]

nvm, managed to fix doom 3 bfg edition

and i kinda see why people didnt like doom 3

it does have a slow pace (reading audio logs is NOT IT)

[potent iris]

agreed

still good game tho

[chrome seal]

and those other zombie soliders shoot faster than i can, pain in the ass

[frigid brook]

This is why I'd mod tf out of this game, to balance it out to my preference

[pliant panther]

anybody got a good classic style mod for doom 3? in terms of movement and gun-play

runners doesnt fucing work it always crashes

[true dock]

can anyone help us get doom 3 multiplayer achievements?

[potent iris]

sure

bfg or not?

[true dock]

omg thank you so much

[true dock]

yes

add me to friends because i dont know if the guy that needs help too will play rn

[scenic stratus]

Idk, i play on switch

[potent iris]

k added

[fierce timber]

The aracnthron

[scenic stratus]

Anyone looking to get the DOOM 3 multiplayer achievements on PC done?

[frosty holly]

Just use Steam Achievement Manager (S.A.M.)

[oblique bison]

and how do you do that?

[young atlas]

Downloading doom 3 🔥

[scenic stratus]

They shoot at the same speed, you just need to get used to the game since it works differently

Today I was wondering if killing Ian Mccormick (the teleportation guy in delta labs 2) changed anything since he says two men are needed to do the teleportation

I spent 4 hours to get there and the answer is nope, nothing changes except you don't get the disc/video

[chrome seal]

nah im pretty sure they have a higher rate of fire than I have, just by a slight amount

[scenic stratus]

Nope

Same rate

Unless you're lagging of course

Besides even if that was true it wouldn't be a problem

And if it is you're playing the game the wrong way (like the newer dooms) which you shouldn't

Doom 3 has its own playstyle and should be treated as such, it's often treated as what it isn't rather than what it is

[chrome seal]

(saving every corner)

[scenic stratus]

No, rather use a weapon based on the situation and seek cover each time

And watch your back every time

In this playthrough I just did I only died due to fall damage

[chrome seal]

honestly i use weapons based on my mood

chainsaw, shotgun, pistol

i barely used the plasma gun

[scenic stratus]

Why would you ever use the chainsaw or pistol

[chrome seal]

and the chaingun, which was used only for boss fights

[chrome seal]

because, chainsaw nice

[scenic stratus]

Actually i can pass the chainsaw for some cases

Regardless

Unless you're extremely skilled at the game you will die if you dont use the right weapon or take damage

For example the chain gun on cacodemons

I use the shotgun a lot especially in cramped parts, and otherwise chaingun, plasma, machine gun or rocket launcher

Bfg very rarely which is a shame

[wind viper]

I save the BFG for the bosses and Hellknights.

[scenic stratus]

That's also what I often do but I always end up with max ammo

[wind viper]

Last playthrough, I stupidly used it all up right before fighting Sarge. Can't remember the other name, Sabboath?

[scenic stratus]

Yeah sabbaoth

You don't get it back until you fight him regardless

[loud swan]

Doom 3 : Pobos episode 3 is out. For me Best Doom 3 mod ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dBk2155NHw

[wind viper]

Looking good.

[chrome seal]

interesting

[true dock]

can anyone help us get doom 3 mp achievements?

[frigid brook]

Oh man, timezones are such a bitch. I wanna try some D3 MP too, but we can never even reply to each others' messages in time, let alone meet up and play!

[heavy sandal]

When is this going on sale

[frosty holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4TiPwTbBh8

[red island]

'Charge till it explodes in your face.'

[chrome seal]

honestly how do i make doom 3 more scary

since its supposed to be a survival horror game

[scenic stratus]

It isnt a survival horror

[misty abyss]

it's action horror

you're way too overequipped for any survival dynamic

[scenic stratus]

is there an infinite ammo mod for doom 3?

or cheat code?

[misty abyss]

why would you need that , especially when BFG edition is a thing

[scenic stratus]

because funny

run game at very fast speeds

and i dont like limited ammo too much

i like being able to shoot a gun whenever i want

[dark jolt]

I remember I felt so stupid that I was halfway in Doom 3 the first time I played it and never used the sprint button

[scenic stratus]

Damn

[abstract fable]

Isn't that only in the BFG Edition?

[dark jolt]

Nope I got the original

[abstract fable]

Oh. I wonder if anyone knows if the BFG EDITION sprinting is just faster?

[misty abyss]

no, but you can bhop like in quake 4

[abstract fable]

In the original too? Or just BFG?

[misty abyss]

I couldn't do bhop in original but in BFG edition it works exactly like it does in quake 4

[abstract fable]

Yeah I love the bunny hop in BFG

Have you tried bhops on RoE BFG with Artifact berserk enabled?

It's ridiculous

[misty abyss]

Now that you mention it, i barely used artifact

like 3 times throughout whole 3 hours of campaign

[abstract fable]

It's very fun

[abstract fable]

Understandable, it can make things too easy

[misty abyss]

It really is ridiculous power up but I have habit of saving up stuff for the worst, which almost never comes

[chrome seal]

There's a part in doom 3 where some voice says "They took my baby", is there anything I can do?

[scenic stratus]

no

[misty abyss]

It's literally there just for scare, honestly among better scares in the game

[scenic stratus]

imp behind a door

[chrome seal]

bwoomp

[frigid brook]

I remember making a video about it ages ago @chrome seal @misty abyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wIuHe5hZEs
It used to be in 720p, but the quality diminished over time for whatever reason

[chrome seal]

i dont know what the point was in adding this, i thought this would unlock some extra ammo or have early access to guns if you either helped people out or if you found some secret

[frigid brook]

I find it weird as well, it's literally just that short section!

No continuation of any kind

[misty abyss]

like i said just a scare

[frigid brook]

That laugh in the end is what's the cherry on top for me

I wish today's games would even try to do something Doom 3 did
This whole atmosphere, these sequences-- all of it

[toxic shale]

Behind the Scenes - Exploring Inaccessible Areas of Doom 3 - Found the Secret Maledict Hidden Stage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppf9s5Nd9E

[misty abyss]

You might want to check out retchid

[frigid brook]

I did, looks like a direct copy of D3, feels very unfinished tho (think it's an early access game?)

[scenic stratus]

It opens a cabinet with plasma ammo and armor iirc

[cunning locust]

Lore wise, which version of the cyberdemon is stronger? Doom 3 or 2016?

[placid swift]

Damn, no love for Doom 1 Cyberdemon 😔

[cunning locust]

Best introduction, just pulls up and shoots the shit out of you

[placid swift]

Tbh I think this one may have to go to 2016 just cuz of

And I hate to say it... powerscaling

Doom 3 protags are all basically normal dudes with guns, Doom Slayer is blessed by angels n' shit

[placid swift]

First time I ran into the mf I was supercharged, 200% health, and I still got taken out in one hit by the rocket

[cunning locust]

The 2016 version can be hurt be regular weapons(albeit alot of damage needed), the doom 3 cyberdemon, not a scratch from a bfg

[placid swift]

I'll admit I've never played Doom 3 so I'm just going off of what I know from the lore

[placid swift]

So a Ganondorf situation basically

2016 is stronger by powerscaling, but Doom 3 can only be hurt by a specific thing

That makes it trickier for sure

I guess if 2016 doesn't have the specific thing that hurts the Doom 3 cyberdemon, then by sheer attrition, Doom 3 comes out on top eventually lol

[cunning locust]

Yep

The slayer himself probably does not even need the soul cube, but for anyone else, they need it

[placid swift]

Side note: I absolutely adore how much the VSBattles wiki hypes up every single character

The highballing is absurd

Doom Slayer is, and I quote, "Low Complex Multiversal" by the end of Ancient Gods

Which, okay, he punches out Davoth, but that seems to make him nigh-unmatchable against anyone that isn't friggin Goku lmao

[cunning locust]

Welp, powered up blessed slayer do be op, but he is now probably back to his classic doom power level(which is still too powerful for most)

[placid swift]

Doomguy has always been slightly OP

In the classic games, the punch and the pistol do about the same damage

Meaning Doomguy, even as a "normal" guy, has one hell of an arm

(Pun intended hehe)

[scenic stratus]

It’s hilarious that you can kill npcs and they don’t react in the beginning

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3

[pliant panther]

praying some genious demakes doom 3 in the halflife engine

[frigid brook]

Imagine Doom 3 with all the static lighting

Kinda ew lol ngl

[scenic stratus]

Anyone looking to get done the DOOM 3 multiplayer achievements?

[scenic stratus]

Maybe when I get back tomorrow

@scenic stratus Sure, just send me a message if you're up for it.

[outer prairie]

Question as someone who hasn’t played Doom 3, what exactly is going on at this timestamp? I get that killing some of the NPCs nets you their specific collectibles, but I can’t make out the whisper that happens and the reason behind it or the new flashing icons near/in the HUD. https://youtu.be/_75gjYY-r0k?t=3004

[scenic stratus]

hes playing it on nightmare difficulty, on nightmare you have the soul cube since the beginning, soul cube is a weapon which takes 5 kills to recharge, after he kills 5 people the soul cube recharges and says "use us"

[outer prairie]

Thank you!

[dusk portal]

Does Someone know why Doom 3 crashes while launching?

I read something that it is because of my gpu (I have an RX 6600)

Are the drivers of my gpu not compatible with Doom 3?

[frigid brook]

I would love to help you but, 'cant really tell from here what's the issue?
OG or BFG edition?

Tried uninstalling&reinstalling it?

[dusk portal]

I installed it just yesterday and I couldn't start it because of the bug. It is the OG Edition I think I installed it from the microsoft store because of my Gamepass

I heard that it could be because of my 4k Monitor

Maybe if I set the resolution to 1080p on the AMD Software it will work

[dusk portal]

I even reinstalled it

And it still crashes while launching

[quasi silo]

MS Store version is the 2019 release.

[dusk portal]

Do you know why it isn't starting? I mean it starts vor a half second and then the console (Not the Windows cmd) opens and then it closes itself

[quasi silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jolly cape]

have to say it here, but i think DOOM 3 has the best version of hell in all the series with the demons, monsters, and zombies seeming more real than in the other DOOM games. wish there was a sequel or something with the same art style and feeling as DOOM 3

[frosty holly]

DOOM 3 has the best hell design in any doom game yet.
Thats not an opinion, thats just a fact.

[delicate citrus]

Hell in DOOM 3 is S+ Tier environment. They cooked with it

[worn furnace]

I actually have a boxed copy of doom 3

Now all I need is a computer from around the year 2000 to get the peak experience

[abstract fable]

Agreed that DOOM 3 has the best Hell.

I'd say either 2016 or DOOM 64 is the second best Hell.

[jolly cape]

i dream of a modern FPS stealing the soul of DOOM3 and some F.E.A.R. DNA

[coral forum]

@tranquil onyx new copypasta incoming

the first doom game in the timeline is doom 3, the first invasion of mars in 2145, we see doomguy arrive after being transferred and the game and devs have made it clear there was no previous hell invasion. During this invasion communications are cut off, so earth sends troops but they don’t know what’s going on, which is even shown in game. then doomguy defeats the cyberdemon with the soul cube.

this gives a personal connection and more of a reason that he has the paperweight on his desk. Doomguy is recovered from a “mechanical failure” and won’t talk about it, no one knows what really happened and the UAC (and later the military) continue experimenting with teleporters. Doom RPG shows his return to a mars research base, which also gets attacked, and generally people don’t know of any survivors but obviously there’s at least one, doom guy.

RoE takes place 1 year later where there’s a small research outpost looking into the ruins of mars city and phobos labs (on mars, not the moon) as well as more ruins, there’s another hell invasion that cuts off communications again, this invasion stopped by the marine engineer who had a vague ending but is clearly dead with everything else going on.

Doom II rpg takes place around the same time and mentions the mars base incidents, none of them know of any survivors but details are shakey anyways, it’s a relatively isolated incident on Luna and I haven’t finished it but from what I know the fate of the protagonists is vague.

Doom 1 takes place either 1 or 2 years later depending on how the 3 years are defined in the manual, so 2147/8, and then well, you know most of it from there, but there are other supporting bits of evidence in other games.

Doom 2s manual can make sense if you consider it an alternate memory created by either madness or the icon of sins reality fuckery, where doomguy said what happened and became famous for what happened, then retired and doom 2 happened, this obviously isn’t true but it makes sense as a false timeline/memory.

Doom 64 shows mars having been invaded and nuked, it hasn’t been terraformed yet as there’s literally a level named “terraforming machine” which is also why it’s clearly on mars. Another thing is the plasma rifle evolution between doom 2016 and eternal, they’re in a new timeline which has its technology offset by argent production but the style remains similar, the doom 2016 plasma rifle matching the doom 3 plasma rifle as they both take place in 2145 and the doom eternal matching the classic, the green hair flat top thing is also first seen in eternal in the new timeline and first seen in doom 1 in the old.

having doom 3 as a prequel adds two unique storytelling elements, we know artistic choices can reflect character emotions due to doom 64 being so depressing, matching doomguys depression, so his first invasion being horrifying rather than the more procedural situation in doom 1 works well.

This also it adds a small interesting thing with hebeth, mars, and the slayer. Hebeth was a beacon of “conquest”, usually that means there was someone there and it says it was lost in another crusade, this implies to me there were natives who either were left behind or fought back, which is why there’s unique architecture in the base game of doom 3 and argenta architecture in RoE.

The doom slayer is also referenced to cross realms in his fight with the demons, so that could very well be him on that tablet and in the sarcophagus as it was a hero’s burial rather than meant to be a tomb like the one in 2016, so if he was “defeated” in a similar way as when he had a temple dropped on him, essentially a coma like death state. He wasn’t trapped though, and the sarcophagus could have been recovered by hell and have been how they discovered his coma like death state before he awoke and did his thing to the demons guarding it.

It also makes an interesting moment where doomguy sees his future, not directly and not knowingly, but he sees not only one of his future great acts but the coffin he will be buried in after, which I very much like as a concept.

Doom 3
Doom 3: the lost mission (concurrent)
Doom resurrection (concurrent)
Doom 3:resurrection of evil
Doom RPG(possibly concurrent, or before RoE)
Doom II RPG
The ultimate doom
Sigil
Doom II
No rest for the living
Final doom:TNT evolution
Final doom: the Plutonia experiment
Doom 64
Doom The Dark Ages
Doom (2016)
Doom VFR(concurrent)
Doom eternal
Doom eternal: the ancient gods parts 1 and 2

@scenic stratus

[tranquil onyx]

Guys get in here new lore just dropped

[coral forum]

spread the light

[gilded jetty]

this game was a mistake ngl (terrible doom game but ok horror game i guess)

[frosty holly]

it was insanely successful lmao

[gilded jetty]

ik i just dont like this game

[coral forum]

its also more doom than eternal

[frosty holly]

so if you dont like a game "it was a mistake"?

https://tenor.com/view/splash-splish-youropinionistrash-duck-trash-gif-18626505

[gilded jetty]

i dont mean that literally

[frosty holly]

hard to tell "what you mean" through text buddy

[gilded jetty]

oh sorry

[coral forum]

can i be mean a second? its not serious

[compact idol]

Ima rank all the hells (that I’ve played) worst to best.

Doom 2
Doom
Doom 2016
Doom eternal
Doom 3

[spark maple]

For me Eternal>2016

[compact idol]

Yay

[heavy sandal]

will this game go on sale on the summer sale?

[frosty stag]

im up for it

[craggy pilot]

i think eternal is the worst game from doom series - only dash is a good idea but rest? story, platform elements, maps (only 2 from dlcs are good but arena style...), superman style, arena in each room, some ghost dogs, colorful design. I mean this game is the least similar in style to the base doom game except monsters and some weapons.

[quasi sinew]

It kinda felt like fighting waves of enemies in a room, which for me was fun, they branched out their game and tried something new, aren't you glad they tried new stuff? Like imagine if call of duty never changed their concept and was still making ww2 shooters?

[craggy pilot]

Honestly? We all know that this solution was dictated by hardware and engine limitations to ensure that everything runs at 60fps on consoles. Closing the passages through some glowing barrier made it difficult to get into the atmosphere. Some were so ridiculously small and every few meters that it became irritating. Personally, I prefer an open board with enemies placed around, possibly jumping out of various elements or holes. Where we have a limited amount of resources and we have to choose a strategy to beat a given level - just like in classic shooters. This gives more opportunities and fun, as well as space to come up with different types of challenges for the community. It also gives a feeling of freedom, which translates into a variety of approaches to a given level, which also makes the game simply better in terms of assumptions and playability.

[quasi sinew]

Dude its 4 in the morning

Respectfully not gonna read that

[quasi sinew]

Glancing over that it seems to me like you wanna play an open world RPG such as elden ring where you can go fight who you want

[craggy pilot]

oh sorry for me like 11 in the morning 😉

[quasi sinew]

So you want an open world rpg of doom, one like elden ring?

[craggy pilot]

No, no. For example doom 2016 have better approach to levels. What I mean is that when you enter a given level, you can go in any direction and you are not limited by barriers at every step. everything is at a given level and the only thing that blocks you is progress such as keys, etc

[quasi sinew]

So instead of wanting to fight through the enemies you wanna skip them and run past?

[craggy pilot]

yes for example - if i dont want to fight right now i can skip them but they are chasing me so there is a risk that at some point it will be too difficult to run between opponents and such running exposes me to injuries, and the number of first aid kits on the level is limited. I don't take ammunition from space either, it's lying somewhere to be picked up or specific types of enemies have it with them after killing them. But not in the way that I kill an imp and he gives me ammunition for the shotgun.

[quasi sinew]

So what you are saying is, you wanna take all the doom out of doom?

[craggy pilot]

This is what doom is all about. An approach to each level where its exploration in search of resources to defeat the enemies standing in our way. Letting go of some skirmishes and moving them to a more favorable ground for us.

[craggy pilot]

We are surrounded and we must break through in the most optimal way of our choosing

[quasi sinew]

So, from what I understand is that the game is about killing demons, and dishonored, a stealth assassin game, is about that

[craggy pilot]

just play classic doom and you will understand what i trying to say to you 🙂

[quasi sinew]

I've play a little bit of doom 1 and 2, didn't play 3 did play 2016

And maybe it's the fact that you are a genius super analyst and must have peak efficiency in all your movements, but I just kinda killed everything and never had a problem

[scenic stratus]

This person hasnt played og Doom it seems

[craggy pilot]

I've been playing this game for almost 30 years, so I can clearly see the difference between Doom Eternal and what Doom was all about.

Doom Eternal is far from a classic, it's just an arcade arena shooter where there is chaos in the rooms 5x5 and this is far from the definition of a classic shooter where it was traditionally called that. Recently, Hugo probably even emphasized this in an interview when talking about Doom the dark ages and its gameplay, and this one is supposed to be the closest to what lies at the heart of Doom

[limpid tendon]

yea doom eternal is more similar to quake than doom classic

[abstract fable]

I think movement and combat-wise, Eternal's closer to Quake.

But Quake still had a lot of exploration, secretive, and mazey elements that Eternal kinda lacks

[abstract fable]

Yeah I miss all the exploration in DOOM

[abstract fable]

The freeform approach, strats, and routing, and secret paths

[scenic stratus]

And being able to do pacifist runs

[craggy pilot]

Yes agree. Such a shame that new Doom game will be more like Heretic but we will see. The most important is that the gameplay will be different and gameplay loop also. I hope for it...

[abstract fable]

I never did those. Have you?

[abstract fable]

I think they were saying Florez hasn't played the Classics.

[scenic stratus]

Only a couple of levels of Doom 1, 2 and 64

[quasi silo]

Has the News! section in the DOOM 3 2019 release ever gotten any news other than the current Eternal skin one?

[heavy sandal]

When u get doom 3, u get all 3 editions?

[scenic stratus]

On Steam, yes

[bold portal]

since when were the mods so based

[chrome seal]

I like doom 3's... level quality? i suppose? for a game made in 2003 or so it had pretty nice looking areas

but i do get why people dislike doom 3 a lot, 0 pace, 0 adrenaline, just aim, shoot, go on a stroll and find something, and thats it next level

and man... the PDA emails and voice logs, most of these are just pointless, to study the pda files just to access a damn cabinet or a room is kinda annoying, slows the pace down in my opinion

I think Doom 3 feels a lot like Wolfenstein 3D???? (if wolfenstein 3d was actually 3d, with 3D models and 10x the quality) given that im mostly walking in narrow areas, with absolutely no sense of where im going 😂

[proven patio]

as someone whose played doom 3, Roe, and lost misson twice each. The pace and adrenaline go up a lot, and really feel like classic doom once you get good and speedrunning it. Nightmare helps make it more difficult to

[chrome seal]

i mean if you're speedrunning, sure theres gonna be adrenaline guaranteed

[proven patio]

it made it feel more like classic doom to me, cause although I didn't speedrun classic.. It often felt like playing normally was speedrunning

[chrome seal]

but if you arent, the game feels like

"ah, betruguer opened a portal to hell and now every demon is coming out. close it please"

and not like

"HOLY SHIT THERES A FUCKING PORTAL WITH DEMONS COMING OUT OF IT CLOSE IT CLOSE IT CLOSE IT"

[proven patio]

yeah I get that

[chrome seal]

i am a bit new to the doom franchise, but i did start from the beginning; doom 1 and 2

those were pretty good, rad soundtracks

[proven patio]

I like it's issue for me was it's transition to 3d honestly

the classic games will always be loved

cause, let's be honest, there are few people who wouldn't enjoy an old bit game

but because of the lower quality of graphics in 2003, it feels.. outdated?

I've lived my life with a shitty console and now an.. ok-ish pc, so I don't care much about graphics, but it's still there.

[acoustic acorn]

Doom has always been 3d. Objects have length, width, height, as well as an x,y,z position which is factored in for collision with level geometry and other objects(except monster vs monster, monster vs player, charging lost soul vs item which do not factor in z differences). While distance calculation only uses the x, y coordinates, the line of sight checks for explosions and regular attacks do factor in all dimmensions Just because you can't look up and down and there are 2d sprites and textures doesn't mean it isn't 3d.

[proven patio]

correction, doom has always been 3d-ish

as there are plenty of 2d in the classic games

[acoustic acorn]

Is there anything in what I said that you're specifically disagreeing with? Objects are 3-dimmensional and occupty a a region within 3d space and that space is relevant for collisions, jumping, projectiles missing vertically.

[proven patio]

to the first question, yesn't

[acoustic acorn]

Realize that every game's physics has some limitations. GTA5 fall damage is calculated from where you leave the ground to where you land, and not the max height to the ground. RE4 physics are almost entirely horizontal. Ie you won't fall if there's no floor below you. Minecraft gravity just doesn't work on most things.

[proven patio]

I may be incorrect, if I am I'm sorry, but I remember reading somewhere that the doom ingine used 2d, and they did something to make it look 3d. Again, I could be mistaken

[acoustic acorn]

That's just not true

[proven patio]

I'll brb, gonna reread

ok! I was mistaken about the doom imagine using 2d! "Although the engine renders a 3D space, that space is projected from a two-dimensional floor plan. The line of sight is always parallel to the floor, walls must be perpendicular to the floors, and it is not possible to create multi-level structures or sloped areas"

that's where I got the misconception

as well as "Viewed from the top down, all Doom levels are actually two-dimensional, demonstrating one of the key limitations of the Doom engine: room-over-room is not possible"

[acoustic acorn]

The software renderer, if anything, makes the game look less 3d. The way its setup, anything that is on top of something vertically will always appear stacked whether you look up or down. While this sounds normaly, it's only true when looking directly forward. Look at a tree or whatever tall thing is nearby: look up slightly and you'll notice that the top of the object will appear more towards the horizontal center of your vision. Optics is a pretty complicated p
hysics topic and frankly, it just wasn't included in the rendereer. Since the renderer cannot properly display things when looking up and down, they opted to disallow looking up and down. But that doesn't mean things aren't actually in 3d space

[acoustic acorn]

This was really a mistake from whoever said it to be clear. The fact that there's no room-over-room, means that you can see every room from a top-down "2d" perspective. However, said perspective misses out on how high rooms are

Think about one of the jumps in doom: e4m2 for example where you jump over to the left. If doom isn't 3d, why can't you cross with low speed? It's not just a speed check as you can't access when going quickly from below

[proven patio]

is that the rocket jump lv?

[acoustic acorn]

it's not, but if you want to think of a rocket jump from e3m6(you can just strafe jump btw) that works too

A lot of schools are single story buildings, or at least mine was. So a map could be a top-down perspective and you'd be able to see every single room. But, each room still occupies 3d space. It has an x, y, and z coordinate

[proven patio]

in all honesty, I didn't know you could jump in classic doom

[acoustic acorn]

By jump I don't mean "pressing the jump key to move upwards." I mean running from one ledge fast enough to maintain height towards another ledge

[proven patio]

and It appears that I've been willfully misinformed XD

[proven patio]

ohhh yeah. Fun fact, I only learned that there was a run key at the first lv that required it.. It was.. Life changing

[acoustic acorn]

Most people leave have "always-run" active

[proven patio]

I just didn't realize it existed XD

until I actaully sat down and read the controls.

also, why didn't 2016 have a sprint key?

[acoustic acorn]

Back in the day, there was no always run key. So people would set their joyb_speed to 29 or 31 to activate it -- if they magically knew about that

movement in games is always balanced according to the enemies or environment. Doom needs fast movement for projectiles. Whereas DOOM just didn't. Doom eternal's base movement is slow but gives lots of options with dashes. RE4 enemies barely move, but that's why Leon is so limited

[proven patio]

that makes since

because the dark ages is gonna have slower enemies, you think we ain't getting a sprint?

[acoustic acorn]

I didn't see any sprint in the trailer but who knows

[proven patio]

there was that sheid jump thing though

[scenic stratus]

i just downloaded and bought doom 3, i have a bfg edition and the normal one

which one should i play

[wind viper]

Play the normal one first, it seems to be more popular.

[frigid brook]

Normal one, if you ask me, playing the OG is the way D3 was supposed to be experienced.

[acoustic acorn]

Bfg has a several sections that are cut, including some slightly altered mechanics and vastly increased ammo. BFG is fine but some stuff being cut makes it much harder to vouch for

[quasi silo]

Picked up some headphones for my Xbox today and one of the first games I tested with it was DOOM 3. The theme slaps and is so crispy with them.

[frigid brook]

I'm guessing today's Xbox consoles aren't backwards compatible with classic Xbox games? I know Doom 3 came out on Xbox back in the day.

[quasi silo]

They are, but not all games are compatible, and one of those incompatible games is in fact DOOM 3. It does work on the 360 though. @frigid brook

[frigid brook]

Gotcha

[chrome seal]

I couldn't get doom 3 to run properly on my computer, but the BFG edition ran quite well on mine

Which i just finished, but it was pretty alright

[wind viper]

Ah. A few people don't like the BFG Edition as much but I've got no problems with it. Did you play the expansions?

[chrome seal]

Yet to play the uh

Resseruction of evil part

[heavy sandal]

whats the different between the 3

[heavy sandal]

why is this game not opening

[ebon mango]

Did you get it to work?

[heavy sandal]

yeh i got it

i also somehow guessed a combo for a locker randomly first try

[ebon mango]

lollll

Yayyyy! Are you in Doom 3 or did you start with 1?

[heavy sandal]

the bfg edition

[ebon mango]

I actually haven't played 3 yet

3 and 64 are the last ones out of everything for meee

[paper citrus]

I just noticed the Australian DOOM 3 PC "pre-order" boxes (that came with the pewter figurines) have some subtle differences from the regular box. the positioning of the logos on the front is slightly different, and the left side of the box varies: on the figurine box, it's a continuation of the picture on the inside front cover, while on the regular box it's a continuation of the cover art.

the cover flap on the pre-order box is also assembled from two pieces (so there's a white seam down the middle of the foldout), while on the regular box it's a single piece like the Resurrection of Evil box

since the labels that advertise the figurine being included are just stickers, I would have assumed the boxes themselves were identical, although I guess they made a slightly different box so that the barcode wouldn't be the same. since there were different figurines that could be obtained, they made different stickers for them.

[acoustic acorn]

doom 3 base game, res of evil, and lost mission are totally different campaigns within thr broader doom 3 purchase

[scenic stratus]

Got a game of doom bfg If anyone wanna join

[heavy sandal]

There is multiplayer campaign?

How's the multiplayer work

[scenic stratus]

We play multiplayer though bfg but multiplayer campaign is through a mod called open coop

[heavy sandal]

O

[abstract fable]

I just realized I never played co-op in any DOOM game

[scenic stratus]

Same

I only play DOOM by myself.

[coarse juniper]

whats the difference between the three doom 3 versions?

[abstract fable]

Three?

I only know BFG and Original....but a key difference is BFG gives you a shoulder mounted flashlight, but OG makes you switch between flashlight or using your guns

[coarse juniper]

cool

[abstract fable]

Also there's lighting changes

BFG Edition doesn't have muzzle flashes

[coarse juniper]

so do i play...?

[heavy sandal]

play the bfg edition

[abstract fable]

People generally recommend the original

[heavy sandal]

its the standard one

[coarse juniper]

wh

[abstract fable]

That was weird

[quasi silo]

BFG Edition features many differences, these are the ones I can list off the top of my head:
Additional campaign "The Lost Mission" for DOOM 3, DOOM I and DOOM II included, along with No Rest for The Living's first official non-Xbox release (only on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360). Out-of-the-box widescreen, removes a section in Resurrection of Evil, doubled ammo. No muzzle flash, but it features the ability to have a gun and the flashlight at the same time, achievements, zombies do not stack on eachother, and probably more I missed. The PS4/Xbox One/Switch fork of the BFG Edition has no multiplayer, but has the ability to enable dynamic shadows for the flashlight.

If you're on console your only bet is the BFG Edition.

The one in the Microsoft Store labeled as "DOOM 3" is the PS4/Xbox One/Switch fork I mentioned above.

Xbox 360 version is backwards compatible and has multiplayer. It's only on physical though.

Also the stuff I just put in italics is not on the 2019 fork.

The physical version is the Xbox 360 version (backwards compatible). The digital one is for Xbox One.

I recommend the 360 version over the Xbox One version, but it's harder to get your hands on. Both are fine though.

Enjoy the masterpiece!

[heavy sandal]

#screenshots

can demons disguise themselves as human?

i jus got a hunch since it gives me an option to activate it or unlock it

[oak prism]

You're not missing out on Doom 3's multiplayer, pretty much no one plays it. And if people do play it, it's mainly for achievements. You can find an occassional Steam thread asking people to group up for the achievements in BFG Edition

The 2019 re-release of Doom 3 is just an updated BFG Edition, I do remember it having the feature to autorun so that is nice. If you play the Xbox 360 version of BFG Edition in an Xbox One or Series X|S, you do get access to the 360 versions of Doom 1 and 2. If you're interested for that it's something I guess. But Doom 3 definitely just play with the 2019 version there. Unless you're on Steam or GOG, then it's still the 2012 BFG Edition

Funny enough there is a PC version of the 2019 re-release but it's just on the Microsoft Store, which you can also get with Game Pass

[frigid brook]

Wait, there's a 2019 version of Doom 3?

Also, which section of RoE is removed in the BFG edition?

[upbeat sleet]

everytime i try to change the aspect ratio of the game it never works

like after i reopen the game

tf do i do💔

[frigid brook]

I'm assuming you've only used the r_aspectRatio 1 command and nothing more
You also need to restart the renderer by typing in vid_restart right after
To avoid further hassle, add the aspect ratio command into the autoexec.cfg (no vid_restart required here), put the file into Doom 3/base
Also make sure to put com_allowConsole 1 into the same autoexec

[upbeat sleet]

I did it

Thx🙏🏿

[frigid brook]

No problem!

[uneven galleon]

I killed Daniel

[oak prism]

Yes, it was released alongside the 2019 Unity ports of Doom 1 and 2

Just an updated BFG Edition, not much else

[oak prism]

Parts of the last level of RoE has been removed to make the level significantly shorter, so short you'll reach the final room in a couple minutes

[velvet wind]

Worst doom game 💪🏻

[frigid brook]

I see it now, they removed an entire arena with imps, hellknights, and mancubuses that you teleport to!

[oak prism]

I wonder why they did that, it's not like RoE was that long so why rush the game to the finish is beyond me

[proud grail]

Whoa it's not the worst but not the best we had worst doom games ok

[heavy sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074049005920718909/1087589609728393266/watermark.gif

[copper junco]

Hi, I want to edit the Doom 3 crosshair to be completely transparent, effectively disabling it.

Is it as simple as just replacing the files in zpak001_crosshair.pk4 [eg crosshairlight.tga] with a blank transparent image?

Thanks.

[tired furnace]

has anyone here read the doom 3 books?

I read the first one and it was horribly boring and poorly written, taking 3/4 the length of the entire book for the demonic invasion to even start, partly because it constantly switches perspective between minor characters and the MC and drawing out every event to be super long, and then ending on FOUR CLIFFHANGERS SIMULTANEOUSLY, and somehow I found that it actually has 4 stars on amazon

am I just that much of a hater or do other people agree they actually suck??

someone credited it for having "vivid descriptions" which is like literally a lie

with such banger quotes describing the imps as "clawlike appendages clawing against the glass" and "a tall humanoid with legs and a head" and nothing more which is said like TWICE

[clever shadow]

how very descriptive. Didnt know there were doom 3 books. I enjoyed the old paperbacks dafydd ad hugh but its been a long time since ive read them. Perhaps they havent aged well either

using ARB_vertex_buffer_object memory
using ARB2 renderSystem
found DLL in pak file: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Doom 3\cst_d3\game00.pk4/gamex86.dll
copy gamex86.dll to D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Doom 3\cst_d3\gamex86.dll
3 22 1600 1200
Regenerated world, staticAllocCount = 0.
Shutting down sound hardware
idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL ): success
...deleting GL context: success
...releasing DC: success
...destroying window
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL
wrong game DLL API version

im trying to get a mod to run in doom 3. Its crashing and giving me this. Any ideas? Alternatively, does anyone have any suggestions on mods that incorporate ADS, Iron Sights, or zoom function? Thats really what ID like to accomplish most. Ive played through 3 quite a few times and this is my first attempt at modding, unsuccessfully

[heavy sandal]

this games good

[latent glen]

Yes

[tired furnace]

Honestly I think the first of the original series is amazing, the ones after it are more iffy and by the third it's completely unrecognizable from anything doom related, but still serviceable space sci fi anyways

In comparison to the doom 3 books the original novels are a masterpiece though 💀

[frigid brook]

I'm not sure, it could be a conflict between the version of the game for which the mod was made versus the game version itself (1.3.0 vs 1.3.1).
If you're on version 1.3.1, you cannot run 1.3.0 mods, and vice versa.

[rustic wind]

Doom 3 seems emo idk why it just always felt emo

[vale wharf]

its dark and edgy so its obviously emo (joke)

[clever shadow]

I switched to dhewm and it ran fine so must have been something off. I still need to add anther mod to stack which is compatible so hopefully that works out

[clever shadow]

I completely agree. The first was by far the best. Not sure I even finished the 3rd or 4th because they lost their way

[jolly cape]

DOOM3 was a different take on the series. EMO is and always seems like whiney, wimpy, watered down Goth. DOOM3 is not EMO

[oak prism]

Doom 3 is just dark and gritty, not necessarily "emo" or "ow the edge"

That said, the Doomguy you're playing as can carry 10+ weapons at once and not slow down at all so you're still a one man army all things considered. Maybe not the fastest but still. So yeah, a different take on Doom basically

[scenic stratus]

What in doom 3 would qualify as emo anyways

[scenic stratus]

His mom

[heavy sandal]

This game meh now tbh

Combat can get a bit annoying at times

[abstract fable]

Tbf that's every DOOM game

[livid kayak]

True

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 is all about the vibes

Combat is fun but it’s not the main draw for me

[glossy vigil]

the Doom 3 is shit

Because it's not Doomis

[heavy sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018010189527523420/1245580931108962314/speechmemified_senior-man-looking-grumpy-he-260nw-77831401.webp.gif

[jolly cape]

DOOM3 and FEAR had a similar vibe that has never been replicated, first person shooter horror wasn't for everyone

[glossy vigil]

The problem is that its horror, but Doom is not horror game

[jolly cape]

DOOM, DOOM II, and DOOM 64 did have a small sense of horror, jump scares and other little splashes

also playing in the dark after midnight amplified such things

i think DOOM3 did nothing wrong with walking down that path, clearly it was a one time thing and won't see any repeats

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/iq5GFp7Rvgw?si=9ow256YY7Glb9eAX

[heavy sandal]

🗣️

[frigid brook]

Doom 3 is one of the most atmospheric horror games I've ever played. Definitely top 5 in this category, if not even top 3!

[copper junco]

Just tried this and it doesn't work, just puts a black box in the center of the screen.

I made a 128x128 transparent tga in GIMP and threw it in the pk4 with 7zip. I can share the tga but idk what filesharing to use. Google Drive and Gofile are no gos

Any ideas?

[frigid brook]

Have you tried emptying the cursor.gui, leaving it with only the Desktop WindowDef?
Like this:
windowDef Desktop { rect 0 ,0 ,640 ,480 nocursor 1 }

It would save you room by not only not having to create new textures to replace old ones, but also reduce the file size of the crusor.gui itself

[copper junco]

That works! Thank you so very much!

[frigid brook]

No problem. Glad it did for you!
I've got some experience with guis myself, worked on a lot of custom HUDs over the years.

[heavy sandal]

Malcolm Betruger

[frigid brook]

Sir Anthony Hopkins woulda been the perfect cast for live action Betruger, a missed opportunity in the movie.

[heavy sandal]

There's a new doom movie?

[frigid brook]

Nooo, I'm talking about the old one, the first that came out long ago.

[heavy sandal]

O

Is it the 2005

[covert valley]

If they were to make a new doom movie tom holland should play doomguy

[frigid brook]

Lol of all the people, why him?

[covert valley]

Tom holland should also play daisy

[tired furnace]

dont forget over 300 rounds of pistol ammo shoved SOMEWHERE

[frigid brook]

That one

[abstract oar]

My people from Medellín, Doom 3 is on sale on Play Station. I buy?

[scenic stratus]

Sure, I guess.

[heavy sandal]

Yeh good game

[weary shell]

Honestly after playing DOOM 3 I gotta say the og doom trilogy is perfect. Every game is so damn good

[abstract oar]

I Will buy Doom 3 next week

[safe hare]

Hello folks!
Many months ago I posted a picture of my 3D printed soul cube, here is the painted version now https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1dmjdbz/my_printed_and_painted_coul_cube/

#artwork message

[abstract oar]

It's incredible bro

[safe hare]

thanks

[ornate heath]

but where is the soul sube?

[tired furnace]

holy shit that kicks ass

where did you get the model for it? I might make one myself

[autumn merlin]

got a question, i got doom 3 from pc gamepass and i tried to open it, and it initially opened and said "loading assets" or something and then just closes

[scenic stratus]

visca barca

[hardy garnet]

this was my first doom game

[fallen jewel]

Last night I was playing D3 with my GF asleep next to me. Got sucked into the hell portal and woke my GF up by audibly exclaiming "gosh darn it, betugey!"

Now I'm stuck on the guardian boss fight

[abstract oar]

💙❤️

[safe hare]

I commisionned the model. Check the links in the reddit post pictures 😉

[kindred cairn]

Hi I have 19 years and today I will be start playing the doom 3 so wish me luck😋 and,
this will be my first doom game.

[scenic stratus]

NO

play doom 1 and 2 first, then doom 3

[kindred cairn]

the earlier parts of doom are terribly pixelated

[scenic stratus]

thats the point, its a old game, play gzdoom if you dont want it pixelated

[kindred cairn]

My brother said not really but I might be play later

[scenic stratus]

it was my first doom go for it 💯

do original instead of bfg

[frigid brook]

Honestly, same.

[frigid brook]

THIS ☝️

Highly recommend the original over the BFG edition

[fallen jewel]

BFG edition brings some benefits but the flashlight modification is just unacceptable.

[frigid brook]

Besides the flashlight, I wouldn't call other things - 'benefits', especially with making areas brighter, it kills the vibe that was originally intended.
The overall sound quality is noticeably worse, the textures aren't that great either.
120fps, sure. Motion blur, unnecessary.

[heavy sandal]

This fuckin sucks 😞😔

[vital kraken]

someone please halp my dumbass get co op working for doom 3

[scenic stratus]

Tbh can’t think of anything BFG version brings besides for the lost missions

I don’t see the annoying auto saving in the BFG edition brought up enough

Why does it pause the game with a pop up like that

[hardy garnet]

I recommend the BFG edition because it is the easiest to find and it comes with doom 1 and 2

And it is also the first one I played

[frigid brook]

Easiest to find ≠ Best

[frigid brook]

Now play the original, and you'll notice an improvement

[hardy garnet]

I have played both

BFG if my favorite

I have played all doom games

Doom got me in the fps genre as a whole it got me introduced to Wolfenstein

[frigid brook]

How is BFG your favorite over the original?

[hardy garnet]

It just is to me a classic and I don't like to pick fights but I will die on this hill BFG is far better the the original

The main title for the original sucks it doesn't have doom 1 or 2 and the lighting is bad and you can't use the flashlight when using a gun

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 downgrade edition

Am I right fellas??

[scenic stratus]

The lighting is bad 😭

Doom 3’s most impressive quality is the lighting

And the BFG edition makes it worse

[frigid brook]

The original never needed Doom 1 and 2 bundled with it. The lighting in the original is exactly what it was supposed to look like. The flashlight vs guns out mechanic was also the way it was meant to be played.

[vital kraken]

anyone halp me with open co op

[scenic stratus]

BFG version removes the feature where muzzle flashes light up the entire room

[frigid brook]

Also, I keep forgetting about this one

[scenic stratus]

Probably some other downgrades I’m not aware of as well

It also removes parts of the game

Resurrection of Evil got shafted man

[frigid brook]

THIS

Again, more very solid arguments as to why the originals are better

[scenic stratus]

The foggy island part of ROE is completely gone

Not sure why

[frigid brook]

One of my favorite parts

[scenic stratus]

BFG edition gives you more ammo too for whatever reason

Like an exorbitant amount

[frigid brook]

^True, I never ran out of ammo in BFG ed

[scenic stratus]

Pretty unnecessary because ammo scarcity wasn’t really an issue in the original release

Removes explosive barrels for god knows why

[frigid brook]

In the original, you almost had to do ammo management

Or not really, don't rem now, it's been a while

[scenic stratus]

Performance maybe?
Knowing it was a console focus release

Sucks that consoles are stuck with the BFG edition

Better than nothing ig

Ammo in the original isnt that scarce tbh

[scenic stratus]

Yeah I don’t remember running out of ammo often

[frigid brook]

Ahhh yes, the console port syndrome-- I believe BFG edition to be one of those

Even if it's not, it sure as Hell SMELLS like it

[scenic stratus]

It sad to see that console never experienced the real Doom 3

If you’re on PC I’d just get the og release it’s cheaper and you can get it to run at high FPS and an FOV of your choosing with some console commands

No real reason not to unless you hate the flashlight that much or can’t watch 2 minute YouTube guides

[frigid brook]

Apart from the original Xbox port, which wound up being pretty impressive, despite it having to downgrade textures, remove plenty of areas from the PC version, and even cutting many maps into separate sections!

[scenic stratus]

Only butchered ports

Doom 3 on the og Xbox is at least kind of respectable

Since they had to work around actual hardware restraints

BFG edition has no real excuse

It just sucks because the devs didn’t give a shit

[frigid brook]

I wouldn't recommend trying to run the game at framerates higher than 60fps tho, the tempo of the game increases since a lot of scripts rely on frames.

[scenic stratus]

Good to know

I ran it at 165 last I played a few years ago and didn’t remember anything being too difficult but I’ll play it safe next time I replay

[hardy garnet]

I got a PC for doom 3 and I was disappointed I played all the others on PlayStation

[frigid brook]

Say it louder for the kids in the back!

[scenic stratus]

High fps slows the fire rate of the chaingun in the bfg edition iirc

Just the BFG edition?

[frigid brook]

I can't help but Picard Facepalm at this blood_plus_guts guy's messages--

[scenic stratus]

Everyone is allowed to have an opinion but its honestly exhausting hearing the same things repeated again and again
Especially from nuDOOM fans

[misty abyss]

BFG edition has actually useable flashlight

[errant tundra]

https://youtu.be/lqO7mPmdhBw?si=mcNxQ3_PJOM2ww31

[low quarry]

Bit of a dumb question but is it possible for Doom 3 to take place after Ancient gods 2?

[heavy sandal]

How tf did u come to that conclusion

https://tenor.com/view/fairysoobs-spongebob-reaction-oh-brother-this-guy-stinks-gif-25698553

[low quarry]

Just a dumb thought but it came from doom guy ||losing his power at the end of Ancient gods 2|| and Doom 3 being the only game that doesnt fit in the tineline, while also explaining why hes normal in that game. It'd just be funny imo also minor references to Doom 3 in Eternal

[scenic stratus]

I mean I guess it’s possible since Doom 3 takes place in a separate universe

Find it unlikely though

The doom marine in 3 has no correlation to the doom slayer in 2016/Eternal

[heavy sandal]

Yeh no

[scenic stratus]

He’s just another guy with a reminiscent backstory who takes up a similar moniker

But unrelated otherwise

[fallen jewel]

IDK, I like to think of a unified Flynn Taggart. I personally modify the canon of the first game to allow DOOM 3 to fit in before it, but I'm also clinically insane.

[minor agate]

Anyone in here got Doom 3 BFG and can help me get the original Doom + Doom 2 Xbox Live achievements? Id really appreciate the help, can find anyone to help me get them haha

[ornate heath]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqO7mPmdhBw&pp=ygUGZG9vbSAz

there was gonna be a stealth sequence?

thank god that didn't make it in

[bleak vigil]

I think the Doom 3 Marine is better than Doom Guy

Afterall he is a normal human

[abstract oar]

I'm not clear

[vestal jetty]

weird game but i respect it

[sturdy mortar]

Can’t believe We missed the story on how doom 3 marine earned the code name big boss

[bleak vigil]

The best one

[vital kraken]

halp i cant figure out Doom 3 open Coop and my friends tilting casue i made him buy doom

[unreal cove]

:whut:

[tiny gale]

Fun Fact: Doom 3 is not free

[ornate heath]

:o

[scenic stratus]

is the game too hard ?

[heavy sandal]

Nah

[scenic stratus]

for a begginer /:

[heavy sandal]

Like ur first doom game?

[scenic stratus]

nah

i didnt complete other ones tho

[heavy sandal]

I mean it's pretty easy

[scenic stratus]

is it worth it tho

[heavy sandal]

Once u get the soul cube it gets bit annoying

[scenic stratus]

and also is there multiplayer

[heavy sandal]

I bought it mainly for the main menu song

[scenic stratus]

XD

[heavy sandal]

I mean I didn't buy it but still

I got doom 3 cuz of the main menu theme

[heavy sandal]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

pirated?

[heavy sandal]

Idk if lots of people play doom 3 multiplayer tho

[scenic stratus]

im not going too

also is it replayable

also is there crucible in the game?

[heavy sandal]

No

[heavy sandal]

Someone gifted to me

There is a soul cube in that game

Damage and heal u iirc

[acoustic acorn]

the cube fills the same role to be fair

[wind yoke]

If Doom 3 had a different name, its non-canon story makes it a spin-off game, what would it be called? It would be Doom:, followed by a subtitle.

[heavy sandal]

to hell and back

[wind yoke]

Are you sure? Doom 3 has a heavier focus on Horror than most of the other installments.

[ornate heath]

Doom.

Just Doom.

I know how video games work, they wouldn't subtitle it

[acoustic acorn]

Doom: Guy

[patent coral]

Anyone here genuinely thinks doom 3 was a good game

[scenic stratus]

I think most people do

[patent coral]

I see it get a lot of undeserved hate

[scenic stratus]

Doom: BFG Edition

[wind yoke]

It is a good game. A little on the easy side unless you're playing on Nightmare, but it's completely understandable that they wanted to make a horror-focused Doom installment.

[wind viper]

Doom Respawned

[scenic stratus]

If Doom 3 was made in the 2010’s they’d just call it “Doom” I guarantee.

Despise that trend

Like jesus man just give it a number or subtitle

[scenic stratus]

Fun fact: doom 3 is not the third installment of the doom franchise and does not have any preexisting prequels

[wind yoke]

Right; Doom 64 is the real Doom 3.

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 is Doom 3

Doom 64 is just an expansion of Doom 2

[ornate heath]

ye

[ebon mango]

I'm starting it tonight

[ornate heath]

playing through resurrection of evil

on the one hand, the artifact makes things too easy

on the other hand, super shotgun🥺

[quasi silo]

DOOM: Three

[bleak vigil]

It's the best my dude

[sudden gull]

Doom: the third one

[quasi silo]

creative

[sudden gull]

Thanks. I stole it from you

[quasi silo]

Only from the best

[hallow pier]

I find it so weird that the Doom 3 marines don't have any arm cover like at all

Like i get it classic game reference whatever

Still it's better for them to have a tech suit or something that cover their forearms

The Doom 3 protagonist just go outside the Airlock with their skin exposed like a champ

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3’s marine armor is kind of a mess lol

Really ugly

Not helped by poorly aged textures

[ornate heath]

the more i think about it, the more a shoulder mounted flashlight for doom 3 bfg edition makes sense for consoles

controllers dont have as many buttons as a keyboard so simplifying it might have been a fine decision

for pcs tho, i dont mind the standard handheld flashlight

plus, the flashlight is actually pretty decent at saving ammo for the standard zombies

which is especially important in resurrection of evil cause i actually ran out of shells, was having too much fun with the ssg

[scenic stratus]

BFG gives the player a shitload more ammo so the flashlights extra utility is kind of nullified unfortunately

Still feel like the mounted flashlight should’ve been optional

Don’t really understand why it wasn’t, would’ve been an incredibly easy compromise to implement

[ornate heath]

possibly because it was a big complaint from a lot of people

also i agree, the ammo and health increase is dumb :p

as well as the inability to skip cutscenes

[frigid brook]

And the messed up FOV, which appears to be 70 or something

[ornate heath]

:c

[open sigil]

Man I find it crazy that people loves doom 3 this much

https://tenor.com/view/doom-taunts-thumbs-up-doomguy-gif-19046636

Good on you guys

[ornate heath]

doom 3 pretty cool :)

[open sigil]

It is but the shadows is the weird part and the vibe

[wise canyon]

i like it but it just doesnt feel like the same dude

[open sigil]

That’d be crazy if eternal doomguy just came into doom 3 and be like: “oh, I see you got it taken cared of here”

[wise canyon]

itd be really cool

[open sigil]

I find it crazy that doomguy is literally the same man that is in 2016 and eternal

[wise canyon]

i mean he did get put in a magical sarcophogas ,but i wonder if he just stopped aging or what

[frigid brook]

I'll just say it again, Doom 3 is one of my top 5 games of all time for sure, if not top 3!

[wind viper]

He was already there, but in the past, during the Prayleanthor story arc, in relation to the Doom 3 Marine's era.

[open sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

Really?

Wait…is doom marine a different person in 3

?

[wind viper]

Yes, while you're playing as the Doom Marine, you see the ancient tablets depicting the Doom Slayer holding the Soul Cube of the Prayleanthor.

[open sigil]

Oooooooh that’s cool

[frigid brook]

Holy fuck, this is actually a cool possibility

[wind viper]

What is?

[ornate heath]

finished resurrection of evil

outside of the final boss, it was piss easy

however, I still had fun with it :)

it feels like they leaned more into the action side of doom whilst still keeping doom 3's aesthetic and horror

admittedly, it does still suffer from some of base doom 3's problems like the spawning demons being rather repetitive, even more so with the artifact that makes this process even slower

and speaking of the artifact, this thing is even more busted than tag 2's sentinel hammer and they give you so many opportunities to use it since it recharges on corpses

maybe it should have worked like the soul cube

then there's the grabber, which is fine enough on its own, but is very obviously an attempt to capitalise off of half life 2

it is useful against Vulgurs, Trites, and especially Forgotten Ones, but isn't my personal preference

that would be the Super Shotgun, which is a considerable improvement over the regular Shotgun and is the main reason why I had so much fun with this expansion despite it's flaws

not surprising considering the super shotgun has never been bad in any doom game, but still

it may have a similar amount of spread like the regular shotgun, but it kills demons way more consistently at close range that it doesn't really matter

And I like the fact that it's Sarge's own super shotgun, that's a cool little piece of lore

also I just realised that I dont think I picked up a single chainsaw in this expansion, weird

but anyway, overall, 7.5/10

not perfect, but still very fun to go through imo :)

[wind viper]

I was never a fan of the grabber, NGL.

[ornate heath]

yea i can see why

[frigid brook]

I never liked the fact that the Grabber can only hold for a couple of seconds before having to drop an object, plus the "pinch" visual effect makes it hard to aim, especially if I'm holding Vulgar's or Hellknight's plasmaball.

But overall, the expansion was a lot of fun for me.

[acoustic acorn]

I want to call the thing trash because I could never get it to work. But it's easy to imagine some speedrun pro doing some trick and getting it to be better than the BFG

[alpine frost]

use it to barrel fly like in Dusk

ROE was great tbh

[whole sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-jesse-walter-white-gif-25245234

wdym slayer was already there

[wind viper]

I mean the Doom Slayer has visited all three universes of a. Classic Doom, b. Doom 3, and c. Doom 2016 and Eternal. All three universes, dimensions or realities and then some, are connected to the same hell realm.

[whole sphinx]

ohh i see

i wonder if davoth is in control of every fictional hell; all the rulers in each universe are other dark lords

doesnt make much sense but cool idea lol

[ornate heath]

ngl, im gonna miss the flashlight when i eventually get to the bfg edition

cause its really good for saving ammo against zombies

[acoustic acorn]

well bfg gives wayyy more ammo anyway

[wind viper]

You still get the flashlight.

[acoustic acorn]

he wants to bonk enemies with it

[ornate heath]

ye

i wanna bonk em :p

and turn em into gibs :p

[acoustic acorn]

idk if classic D3 has punching but bfg does at least

[ornate heath]

it does

[toxic mist]

https://youtu.be/bkLG48tk454?si=O2ORkKiVwfogWgg7

[buoyant raft]

hi guys

so I have a probloem woth launching doom 3

*problem

can someone help me?

[scenic stratus]

Mancubi only appear in two levels

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050926248077054083/1258209852946382868/IMG_1719.jpg?ex=668736bd&is=6685e53d&hm=b91ea7ab44712599fe92553d39c81e8822c20e1a64b08fba22ca28e50cff0b94&

[warm halo]

Alright, not that I get "scared" easily or anything, but how often do demons jump out during Doom 3? I tried so hard to playthrough it, but I just couldn't muster up enough courage to keep playing. 😅

[white pumice]

Mostly imps

[acoustic acorn]

it's almost entirely jump scares with this game. To the point where you might want to make a habit of immediately backing away from opening doors(or readying the shotgun)

[heavy swift]

understandable

I don't really get scared by that

I don't even have Arachnophobia but holy shit I hate those spiders they are so nasty

[abstract fable]

Unless it's RoE or something

[abstract fable]

They're just obnoxious and tedious is all I think

[heavy swift]

and when they jump at you is just even worse since they can stunlock you

[flat coyote]

I cant find any objectives when i play its just trial and error for me'

[acoustic acorn]

I've beaten this game some 4+ times and still don't know how to get around

[flat coyote]

i got close to beating it on my switch and made a new game on accident

i was so mad

[stable dragon]

After beating vanilla DOOM 3, BFG Edition won't open

For some reason

Anyone else run into it, or is it just me?

[viral briar]

Doom Marine: breathes
Imp: “I have been summoned.”

[viral briar]

Did you save before? You could just load a saved game I guess.

[flat coyote]

true but my switch is long gone now lmao

[upbeat sleet]

true

kinda getting annoying at some point

[brisk phoenix]

I finished the BFG edition a long time ago and I'm going for the originals.

[cedar stirrup]

Hello, I am a simple fan of Doom 3 and I wanted to ask if anyone here knows about modding in Doom 3, and if you could explain to me why it happens and how to fix this texture error, change the player model in open coop and the texture looks like a shadow

[scenic stratus]

god is protecting you from bfg edition

[heavy swift]

real

[frigid brook]

Real shit

[gloomy compass]

cries in console

[scenic stratus]

runs even on phone tho

[gleaming minnow]

They need to put doom 3 vr on psvr2

[hollow pivot]

hello, how do i open the command line in doom 3?

[heavy swift]

idk man

[heavy swift]

hell yeah

[vernal robin]

Alt + Ctrl + Tilda

[hollow pivot]

wtf is tilda?

i cant find it in my key board

[acoustic acorn]

top left

[frigid brook]

Ctrl + Alt + ~

Or just add set com_allowConsole 1 to launch options and then you can just press ~ in game to bring down the console

[ornate heath]

I have a question

Im trying to run Doom 3 Phobos and am doing everything the text file is telling me to, but it keeps booting up Resurrection of Evil instead

anyone know how to fix this?

[wind viper]

I dunno but I'm having the same problem with the latest Quake mod.

[frosty holly]

Man... this is perfect - DOOM 3 Sourceport with:

• TRUE 120FPS/Hz Patch - WITHOUT fucking up physics
• Flashlight on guns
• Full EAX Sound
• Widescreen fixes
• Fully restored Stencil Shadows

F3 bind for FOV:

• Toggles through FOV Options froms 90, 100, 120
  ///Anything higher fucks up the viewmodel

F2 bind for little fixes like:
///Needs to be pressed after Loading Screen

• Increased Movement Speed (Walk, Sprint, Crouch, -speed)
• Unlimited Stamina (Cause, fuck Stamina in a DOOM game...)
• Disabled headbobbing (Makes me physically sick >.<)
• Stepsize increased from 16 to 20 (Personal fix, so i wont get stuck on small obstacles)
• Disabled the "Flinch" when u get hit (That was always annoying the hell outta me)

DOOM 3 is FINALLY playable again for me

[quasi silo]

... I play vanilla untouched DOOM 3 with no tweaks at all. I even run it in 4:3. I think I'm an outlier. (that's the word right?)

[frosty holly]

Thats just making your experience worse lol

[quasi silo]

Nah, I'm good with the way I play. All of the 'improvements' you mentioned above don't apply to me. I also like my games 4:3 when they're meant to be 4:3, instead of an ugly stretch. And no, no widescreen either, I like it pure.

[frosty holly]

Whatever floats your boat

[quasi silo]

Good Ending

[scenic stratus]

add double jump and dash to that

[frosty holly]

That would be a bit extra xD

[gloomy compass]

why not just use bfg at that point

[frosty holly]

Because BFG sucks massive ass

Biggest plus point for me is the 120Hz.
Both Vanilla and BFG can not run on +60FPS without compromise.
And while you can play up to 90-100FPS, they game will still run noticibly faster already.
At 120Hz its completely out the window and broken

[scenic stratus]

What's the name of the sourceport?

[frosty holly]

Dhewm 3

[scenic stratus]

oh

They finally added support for higher fps?
Thats nice

[frosty holly]

nope

[scenic stratus]

i didnt know dhewm3 did all that nice

[frosty holly]

u need a mod

for the FPS

[scenic stratus]

a

i use dhewm3 too but i keep it mostly vanilla

solid port

theyre starting to add controller support now

[frosty holly]

Thats the FPS mod, says its for 1.5.2, but works in 1.5.3 too (As far as i played)
Found the github repo again:
https://github.com/simonedibilio/dhewm3/tree/unlocked-fps-rw-dhewm3-1.5.2

[scenic stratus]

thanks

[frosty holly]

And if you want the light attached to guns (its always on, if you dont mind)

[fallen jewel]

Is anyone willing to send me RoE's pak001.pk4? I had a copy buried somewhere but that particular file got corrupted and I no longer have a computer I can use to reinstall it.

[fallen jewel]

Nvm, got it from a friend.

[vale wharf]

if you mean console it's CTRL+ALT+key below esc

[frosty holly]

You get it from your own gamecopy

[fallen jewel]

That I no longer have a way to download?

My computer kicked the bucket about two months ago and I'm trying to get the good games on my phone.

[tribal void]

Is it bad that my first time playing doom 3 was on bfg edition?

[robust estuary]

Nah. It is the most easily accessible version nowadays, so it's hard not for it to be someone's first.
If you enjoyed it though, I highly recommend going back and trying the vanilla 2004 release. The darker lighting (and differences from BFG like less ammo) does make for a different experience.

[scenic stratus]

BFG edition gets a lot of hate and rightfully so but its still a fine way to play the original version

At least for the base doom 3 ROE suffers a bit more

Most of what makes doom 3 great is still preserved

[scenic stratus]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2536530/The_Pony_Factory/

Could this count as Doom 3?

[frosty holly]

No?
This has absolutely nothing to do with #doom-3 or even doom as a franchise

[scenic stratus]

it has the same flashlight gimmick as Doom 3

[heavy sandal]

how miniscule is your brain

[scenic stratus]

So miniscule, thinking people wouldnt react this way for a dumb joke

I didnt think it would be a big deal comparing a Doom 3 inspired game to the actual Doom 3

[scenic stratus]

its inspired by d3 iirc

[frosty holly]

Yeah no, if we go by that logic every FPS game is

[scenic stratus]

its from the same dude who did dusk

says its inspired in d3 in description

speaking of d3 inspired games i just did a bit of half life for the first time

copied doom 3 years before it released

it even has the flashlight

[quasi silo]

Half-Life? The Black Mesa rip-off?

[hazy totem]

Guys, sorry for saying this, but im playing DOOM 3 and im actually enjoying it lol

[robust estuary]

Why be sorry for it? DOOM 3 is a fun game

[quasi silo]

Usually you'd apologize for NOT enjoying a game. I personally don't like a game a certain DOOM-related community adores, but I won't reveal which one it is...

[robust estuary]

I can't believe you don't like DOOM gba Anome

[quasi silo]

[rare phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom3-gif-7468325347943850559

Doom 3’s dope as hell

[hazy totem]

Literally haha.

Could be the sarcophag from the end of the game considered a foreshadowing to the intro of DOOM 2016?

[brisk tangle]

Eh, The game ain't that bad, It's fun for those who like very slow paced doom

[hazy totem]

Ikr? I don't understand the hate for the game.

I think is a good game.

[scenic stratus]

"iTs NoT dOoM!"

[hazy totem]

Also, DOOM 3 is supposed to be a reboot.

[brisk tangle]

Because the DOOM franchise has been known for being fast paced and gives you the feels of being an unstoppable force of nature and shotguns and what doom 3 pretty much does is taking that away from you and turns you into the victim

[hazy totem]

I understand.

But the classic demons are there. As well for the classic weapons.

[quasi silo]

That is simply not true, what are you on about?

DOOM (1993) was originally conceived with the idea of it being horror. It still stuck with many levels.

[brisk tangle]

That's not why?

[hazy totem]

Redesigned, but still there.

[rare phoenix]

Nah they weren’t thinking that far ahead (8 years lmao) but it was 2016 and Eternal did make the ‘Martian Hero’ seen in the Martian artifacts actually be OUR Doomguy when he was a Sentinel (or maybe when he was the Slayer already I can’t quite remember)

[quasi silo]

Carmack said that DOOM 3 was what they wanted to do with the original DOOM.

[brisk tangle]

Ah, Well that means it should be good

[robust estuary]

DOOM has always had horror elements even back on Dos, 3 just leaned all in now that the technology was able to allow so

[rare phoenix]

Makes sense considering they also originally wanted Doom to be a licensed Alien game

[brisk tangle]

That makes perfect sense

[quasi silo]

Good ending.

[brisk tangle]

But we're still stuck in hell, You know what to do

[quasi silo]

Get the guns and kill them all, let God sort 'em out.

[brisk tangle]

God may have mercy, But we sure don't.

[scenic stratus]

For inspiration Romero handed Prince tapes with what he calls "Tony Martin-era Black Sabbath", to serve as rough guides for "what we are looking for". Says Prince, "The id Software development team originally wanted me to do nothing but metal songs for DOOM." Consequently the score reflects the then-current metal and hard rock genre, creating a instantly recognizable sonic landscape.

Prince originally envisioned Doom as having an ambient, environmentally sensitive soundtrack, rather than a traditional musical score. He initially created the metal-styled tunes to demonstrate that this style of music would not mesh well with the game, but many of them eventually ended up in the final product, alongside more atmospheric, ambient tracks. Assigning the music to the levels was done by Romero.[4]

[hazy totem]

Imo DOOM 64 is more scary. That soundtrack from Aubrey Hodges scares the shit out of me.

[robust estuary]

Kind of? They were approached about making it into an Alien game after they started talking about it, but that conversation only lasted around ~15 minutes or so before they shot it down and went back to their original plan
At least that's going off what Romero talked about the alien stuff in his book, according to him the aliens tie-in deal barely made it past a few minutes before it got shot down

[quasi silo]

If you're playing the BFG Edition, 64 is scarier. But play the original DOOM 3... holy shit.

[scenic stratus]

prince: "see these songs dont fit at all"
romero: "ur joking right theyre perfect"

[scenic stratus]

berserk sound

[rare phoenix]

And then Quake happened lol

Love Trent’s work though

[scenic stratus]

yea ost in quake is too damn good

[hazy totem]

Is it here a section in the server to talk about Quake?

[rare phoenix]

not really

[rare phoenix]

that ambience HIIIIITS and the main theme is SO good

[hazy totem]

I would like to ask: why from Quake 2 to 4 is so different from the first one from 1996?

[quasi silo]

You can try in the Quakecon server.

[robust estuary]

Quake 2 wasn't supposed to be another Quake game
Calling it Quake 2 was a last minute decision for name recognition

[quasi silo]

Quake II wasn't originally meant to be a Quake sequel, they just named it that for some reason. Quake 4 is a sequel to Quake II so it follows that storyline.

ET:QW is a prequel to Quake II.

[scenic stratus]

4 is done by raven (i think?) rather than id, done in doom 3 style

with the same d3 engine

[hazy totem]

I thought cause it was too similar to DOOM lol.

[quasi silo]

It's on the DOOM 3 engine, yeah. It's a bit like an action-oriented DOOM 3. No horror elements except for some body horror near the end, but no spoilers!

[rare phoenix]

Wasn’t it originally gonna be called ‘WOR’ or something like that?

[quasi silo]

Yup.

[robust estuary]

I'm not sure what the original name was supposed to be tbh, just that it wasn't Quake 2

[quasi silo]

Kind of like how Half-Life was originally Quiver.

[rare phoenix]

Half-Life makes so much more sense for a game in a science facility than Quiver does

Quiver makes me think of Gordon at an archery range

[quasi silo]

To be fair, Half-Life was a mess back then. The guards were stoned out of their shit.

[brisk tangle]

Yep, Because we got half-life but not full life back then

[rare phoenix]

Honestly it’s insanely lucky how successful Half-Life was considering the risk Gabe and Mike took when they went to go found Valve

[scenic stratus]

what if we didnt get hl3 cause each game is one half and now its whole

[robust estuary]

Then what are episode 1 and 2 supposed to be

[quasi silo]

Good question...

[scenic stratus]

the respective episodes are part of the half

[rare phoenix]

HL: Alyx gave me hope man I NEED that new Half-Life game

[robust estuary]

Then what is half life 2 supposed to be

[scenic stratus]

the other half with its episodes

[rare phoenix]

Half-Life 1 Episode 1

[quasi silo]

Opposing Force:

[rare phoenix]

True

[robust estuary]

Lost coast?

[quasi silo]

Not canon.

[robust estuary]

Oh whoops

[quasi silo]

It was meant to take place between Highway 17 and Sandtraps. Probably cut early in development because of how short it is. You can skip the entire final battle.

[scenic stratus]

i might be doing half life in the following days

never played

[quasi silo]

Make sure to play the original and not Half-Life: Source.

[scenic stratus]

ah yea i saw about that

[quasi silo]

Half-Life: Source is like the BFG Edition of Half-Life. It's really not the worst outside of the bugs, but the bugs do fuck with it a lot. I still want to do a playthrough of it someday because of how comical it is.

[scenic stratus]

im gonna go as vanilla as possible on this one

with original 3d models

[robust estuary]

Especially now that valve did that huge patch awhile ago

[rare phoenix]

VAAAAAAALVE!!!! DROP ANOTHER TECH DEMO AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[robust estuary]

Aperature desk job 2

[scenic stratus]

we are living good times for old games

lots of good stuff getting updated or rereleased