classic-doom

[finite crag]

isn't the main menu music from Eternal from one of the older games

[hexed escarp]

yeah its based on the doom 2 map30 music

[finite crag]

ah thank you :3

[hexed escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G_f6LCwmsE

[finite crag]

so good

[little oar]

This really might be the good doom port
Do not screw this up, bethesda

[hexed escarp]

someone said the dev said stuff on twitter?

[little oar]

Considering people are already noticing it and they've already changed the store pages, I won't be surprised if they release it early by the end of the day

Surely with all this hype they won't want doom to be unpurchaseable for too long, even if the new ports are soon

[hexed escarp]

WAIT

DID ANDREW HULSHULT DO TNT COVERS AS WELL

that would be epic

[little oar]

Don't think so, but it'd be awesome if this had the fanmade ost for it

The andrew stuff might just cover base 1 + 2

Though I would love to be wrong
||Imagine Andrew covers of Sigil's midi ost||

[hexed escarp]

in the menu in the trailer tnt and plutonia are listed as additional games at the same level as doom 1 and 2 not as add-ons so it would make sense for them to all have an enhanced ost

[little oar]

Unless the "advanced ost" is just because they share doom 1 + 2s ost by default

[hexed escarp]

he wouldn't have to do anything extra for plutonia since it just uses doom 1 and 2 music

[little oar]

But man I hope you're right, more Andrew is always welcome

[hexed escarp]

the original tnt wad had fanmade midis in it, it wasnt all doom 1 and 2 music

[little oar]

Ah

I wonder if by "Sigil" they mean both Sigil games or only the first one
Nvm got my answer

"Created by id Software co-founder, John Romero, and released as an episode-sized mod consisting of 18 new maps, Sigil fits in between the timelines of DOOM (1993) and DOOM II."

[hexed escarp]

he already has to have done extra music for doom 2 so it is not too much of a stretch that he would have done tnt as well

[calm cradle]

Yup.

[hexed escarp]

oh interesting

[calm cradle]

I won’t spoil who it was, because that’s not going to do anything to make myhouse better

[hexed escarp]

thats fair

[calm cradle]

Happy to talk about behind the scenes stuff though

[hexed escarp]

do you think they will ever reveal it themself?

[calm cradle]

He said if it was to happen, it’d be many years from now

But likely no

[hexed escarp]

fair

[finite crag]

Just install the Plutonia MIDI pack anyway, it fucking rocks.

[hexed escarp]

yep

[hexed escarp]

have you heard this? its super good

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDPpmDLSimIA-6oy8F4HD3iCTqR2OzNM3

[woven scroll]

Woah this definitive edition thing sounds pretty wicked

[obtuse latch]

I need mossy marble textures, did anyone know wad with such textures?

[finite crag]

Yeah it's great. Hope he does Plutonia 2.

[hexed escarp]

i hope he does eviternity

[hexed escarp]

vanilla style or doesnt matter

[obtuse latch]

Doesnt matter

[hexed escarp]

what color marble

hmm i looked and otex doesnt seem to have anything like that

maybe cc4-tex

[little oar]

This is going to be THE way to play doom
Finally the need to tell people to download a source port asap can stop

[hexed escarp]

ehhhh i wouldnt say that much

if it supported mbf21 i would be more inclined

[woven scroll]

Half Life definitive edition doesn't need source ports

[hexed escarp]

a lot of community wads these days use the mbf21 standard

[little oar]

True

But as far as pure vanilla goes (which I imagine most newcomers will mainly want), these will be perfect

[hexed escarp]

also im guessing you wont get as much control and customization and stuff like that as you get with a source port

but its definitely a much better place for new community members to start instead of unity

[hardy hamlet]

Looks like Xbox and PS have de-listed the Xbox One and PS4 DOOM and DOOM II ports. The 360 Ports however are still up

[little oar]

Hopefully these aren't like the unity ports where they release with issues and takes awhile to actually become recommendable

[median cloud]

This deathmatch looks crazy laggy hahah

I saw Eyedea tho 👀

[hardy hamlet]

I wonder if console owners get a free upgrade, i own DOOM and DOOM II on both PS and Xbox

[little oar]

These games have to be releasing by the end of the day, surely if they're already taking stuff down

[finite crag]

y'all still talking aboit the update

[little oar]

Yessir

[finite crag]

epik

[hardy hamlet]

Agreed Lego, also nice name

[finite crag]

been looking tbrough Slayer's man cave

[little oar]

That'd be really nice, but I'm not sure how console stores handle that sort of stuff. For all I know, they limit companies able to do that.
Has there been a game that's happened to on consoles before?

[hardy hamlet]

@little oar If you own a PS5 Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga is free on Plus this month LOL

[hexed escarp]

i wonder if legacy of rust will be actually decent

[little oar]

I don't have ps+, can't justify it
But good to know. Looks like an interesting lego star wars that breaking the formula a bit

[hardy hamlet]

From the little snippet i saw it looks good

[twin mortar]

360? Weren't those delisted forever ago?

[hardy hamlet]

They still show for me

Strange

[hexed escarp]

maybe it will be using boom

[twin mortar]

They are there, but not available for purchase, that's how it works on Xbox

[hardy hamlet]

I've not felt well last couple days, i'm hoping they get this out today so i can rip and tear

Hopefully i can get my buddy to co-op with me. He thought Quake II was "Old" but i talked him into co-oping that and he loved it

[little oar]

Considering they're already taking the store pages down and QC is in a few hours, it'll probably be a "Available Now!" reveal and it'll go up

Especially now that this update is common knowledge

[hardy hamlet]

Almost 2 PM here

[finite crag]

I thought QuakeCon is right now and they revealed it during that?

[hardy hamlet]

@little oar If it's gonna be a while i might go back to the comic storyline i was reading

[hexed escarp]

wtf are you talking about

[little oar]

Hasn't started yet. Starts in about 3 hours iirc

The hype is because a lot of store pages (namely steam) is updating way early then it was probably supposed to

[hardy hamlet]

I'm currently reading Planet Hulk and then World War Hulk after

It'll help pass the time LOL

[little oar]

Play doom 1/2 to pass the time

[hardy hamlet]

I wish i could find the DOOM comics, those are probably proper fun to read.

[little oar]

Enjoy the last few precious moments you have with the unity ports

[worthy cloud]

Please tell me DOOM + DOOM 2 Enhanced will be releasing on all consoles. . . 😭

[little oar]

As far as we know, yes

[worthy cloud]

THAT TRAILER BLEW ME AWAY! I LOVE DOOM SO MUCH YOU GUYS! 😍😭😍😭

[worthy cloud]

WHEN?!?

[little oar]

It even mentions having "Cross platform multiplayer" in its steam description

We don't know that part yet

[calm cradle]

I’d like to do some fragging

[little oar]

I assume by the end of today, if not by the end of QuakeCon at the absolute latest
The listings for the old ports are already being taken down, so it'll be soon

[hardy hamlet]

Now that the "Cats out the bag" my guess is today

[worthy cloud]

WELL I HONESTLY CAN'T WAIT! GREATEST DOOM NEWS I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME! 😭

[little oar]

I do wonder if attaching bethesda.net accounts will still get you the eternal bonuses

(Maybe even add some new ones for final doom/plutonia/sigil, even)

[worthy cloud]

I'm at work and I can't hold it together you guys! DOOM IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME! 😭

[little oar]

It'll happen, be patient

[finite crag]

that'd be cool

i would love a No Rest for the Living one

[worthy cloud]

I'M SOOO HAPPY RIGHT NOW! ! ! ! GOD BLESS THE DOOM COMMUNITY! 😍😭😍😭

[calm cradle]

Me and the gang are probably going to try out the new deathmatch levels this weekend with a few zandro mods

[little oar]

Going to try and drag some of my friends into some doom coop

And just because I think it'd be funny I want to see us all suffer through Sigil like headless chickens

[hardy hamlet]

What's some good metal songs you guys play to get the blood flowing when playing DOOM?

[little oar]

A7X is usually a goto for me, alongside stuff like disturbed or rammstein

[hardy hamlet]

One of mine is Knee Deep in the Dead by HeXeN

[calm cradle]

Good song

[hardy hamlet]

@calm cradle I found HeXeN once just because i was trying to find new bands and randomly scrolling YouTube

Rock/Metal and a dash of country are my tastes

[calm cradle]

I found it because of the double reference

[worthy cloud]

Should I delete the ps4 versions of classic Doom I & II to be ready for the new stuff or what? Lol

Or will they automatically update?

[hardy hamlet]

@worthy cloud I'm keeping mine until we see what happens

Same on my Xbox

[worthy cloud]

Probably a good idea lol

Same here.

[hardy hamlet]

In the meantime i'll find something to do, got some jams on currently

Plus you guys are amazing

[calm cradle]

I’m guessing it’s an update to people’s existing purchases.

[hardy hamlet]

My guess too Kevan

Gonna be fun either way

[calm cradle]

I’m looking forward to the new maps

New maps are always fun

[hardy hamlet]

@calm cradle Amen to that friend

I'm looking forward to this and to Tuesday when Twisters drops digitally

[calm cradle]

Probably gonna stream it when I’m home

[hardy hamlet]

@calm cradle You over on the purple side? May just have to go drop a follow

[calm cradle]

All my links are in my linktree

[hardy hamlet]

Alrighty!!

[calm cradle]

Of course streaming it depends on it being released today. The opening keynote is in a few hours, so very likely

[modest plover]

So DOOM and DOOM II are no longer on steam, bethesda launcher I guess?

[calm cradle]

No?

[hardy hamlet]

True Yaga

[calm cradle]

Bethesda launcher has been discontinued for years now

[fallow bolt]

i was about to ask if anyone knew why 1 and 2 are unavailable on steam have i understood correctly there are new versions being released within the next few hours?

[hardy hamlet]

@calm cradle DOOM II's Steam page says now it can't be purchased

[calm cradle]

That’s probably due to the oncoming update

But definitely not a Bethesda launcher thing

[modest plover]

Hopefully still Steam

[vale gyro]

yeah

it'll be on Steam

[calm cradle]

No reason for it to not be on Steam

[fallow bolt]

nice

should it be availlable before the sale ends?

[vale gyro]

though I'm guessing I'm the only one not really excited for the engine change?

[fallow bolt]

i was just about to get the originals when i saw this sale

[little oar]

Most likely

[modest plover]

It should still be on Steam, just booted DOOM and its still the same. Should be an update

[calm cradle]

The engine change is probably one of the smarter things they’re doing

[little oar]

There's no solid release date, but if everything is already being taken down then it has to be verysoon

[fallow bolt]

great

[vale gyro]

to me it's a downgrade compared to Unity with the exception of Boom maps

[calm cradle]

It’s Boom compatible, meaning not just mod support, but an even wider pool of mods that can now be used

How is it a downgrade?

[little oar]

Tbh I don't really know how much an engine change would affect something like doom, I'm just excited for the other new stuff like the Andrew Hulshut ost and all the addons

[modest plover]

DOOM's background on the steam library just changed, its the DOOM + DOOM II one, so its coming

[vale gyro]

The menus (at least in 64) are just pretty jank

[hardy hamlet]

Lego my guess is they'll do like they did Quake and Quake II and shadow drop it today just after QuakeCon kicks off.

[little oar]

Probably

[vale gyro]

they might've changed them in this release but I wouldn't know

[calm cradle]

The menus make it a downgrade?

[little oar]

And running around, though I don't know if that's a KEX engine thing or if that's just doom 64 being doom 64,
It felt like I was getting stuck on stuff a lot

[calm cradle]

You are aware that’s literally how Doom 64 functions in the original?

[hardy hamlet]

The first time i got to play 64 was on modern console. As a kid i didn't own a N64

I've now played it several times 🤣

[vale gyro]

referring to the keybinds menu

unless I'm genuinely an idiot it just barely worked for me

[hexed escarp]

do we know how many maps the new expansion will be?

[little oar]

16

[vale gyro]

it's saying Episode so it might be 9 maps

[little oar]

It's split into two parts like Final DOOM and Sigil are

"The Vulcan Abyss" and "Counterfeit Eden"

[hardy hamlet]

One thing i love about the DOOM series is no matter how much i've played them i always discover new things and i've never been bored of them.

[little oar]

Taken from the store page description:
"Legacy of Rust
Created in collaboration by id Software, Nightdive Studios, and MachineGames, Legacy of Rust is the newest episode for DOOM, and the first official episode since DOOM II to feature new demons and weapons. This 16-map Episode is broken up into two 8 map sections: The Vulcan Abyss and Counterfeit Eden."

Wait.
New demons and weapons..?

Just now noticing that

[hardy hamlet]

Weapons lines up with what we saw in the trailer

Looked like some kind of flamethrower or something

[hexed escarp]

oh damn

wait, how tf does that work, did they create their own mod format for new weapons

or does it replace the stock ones

since boom dehacked cant add extra weapons

[plush seal]

can someone explain to me why the Image for Classic DOOM on Steam shows both DOOM and DOOM II now and why there are achievements all of a sudden?

[hardy hamlet]

Wario64 tweeted the trailer and details, he also just tweeted a new Doomguy figure up for pre order

[calm cradle]

Well it’s the kex engine, so on the code end of things, they can literally just add new guns

[twin mortar]

Free update coming soon

[hardy hamlet]

Re-release, new version

[hexed escarp]

thats true

[plush seal]

oh thats awesome, I always wanted to have DOOM II on Steam

[hexed escarp]

if they did that source port developers are gonna have to rush to add support lol

[hardy hamlet]

DOOM + DOOM II are being combined into a single package with a new expansion and a ton of features @plush seal a trailer has found it's way online and it may be dropped as soon as today.

[vale gyro]

that's if they even release the WADs

[vagrant hemlock]

Truě

[hexed escarp]

oh i hope they do

that would be super annoying if not

wait how would they not, couldnt you just find them in the game files

[little oar]

Well if the new episode is built into the KEX engine, then it may not be a simple wad file right?

[vale gyro]

yeah, probably

[hardy hamlet]

Someone on Twitter named Wario64 has the trailer posted @plush seal

[finite crag]

It seems the new demons are reworked from the old graphics for unused demons in the original Doom. Like the alpha Lost Souls or those slime things.

[plush seal]

apparently it also comes with a soundtrack by Andrew Hulshult 🥳

[little oar]

(I don't know how this engine stuff works so I'm just assuming, is that how this works)

[calm cradle]

Wouldn’t be hard, lol

[hexed escarp]

true

[vagrant hemlock]

What we talking bout

[little oar]

Oh boy. Hitscan lost souls.
Hooray.

[calm cradle]

I can whip up a gun in zscript in minutes

[hexed escarp]

actually, if they did add more weapons, that might actually be epic because mbf21 modders would have more weapon slots to work with

[proven orchid]

I will buy it just for the idkfa ost

[little oar]

Actually alpha lost souls + the pain elemental could be really funny I'm all for it

[hexed escarp]

you can get that for free

andrew hulshult put it up for download when he originally released it ages ago

[hardy hamlet]

I'm hoping we can just upgrade, i own them both already on PS and Xbox

[little oar]

The IDKFA ost has been a wad for years now too

[proven orchid]

Ik but mad respects to the developer

[little oar]

I forget where you go to get it, but it does exist out there

[proven orchid]

I already have it

And i listen to it daily cuz its so good

Ill buy it on Xbox

[hexed escarp]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/idkfa-doom-soundtrack

[little oar]

Perfect

[proven orchid]

I really wish he made one for doom two😭

[hexed escarp]

well turns out he did now

maybe he will release it as a downloadable wad when the rerelease comes out

or maybe we can just extract it from the files

[calm cradle]

Someone already (jokingly) asked me when KEXChaos.pk3 is going to happen 😭

[proven orchid]

Les gooooooooo

I just listen to the flacs

[vale gyro]

that even possible?

[calm cradle]

If it has a flexible scripting api, then yeah

But afaik? No it does not

So no it’s never going to happen, and not really something I want to learn in favor of what I can make in zscript

[proven orchid]

When will it release

[calm cradle]

Likely today. Quakecon keynote is happening in a few hours I believe

[void hemlock]

3 PM CT = 4 PM EST for me

[hardy hamlet]

@void hemlock East coaster here!

[spice radish]

The KEX remaster comes out later today right?

[twin mortar]

Very likely, but not confirmed

[median cloud]

SO is this like a new port or a Quakecon only thing?

At this point they've remade the classic doom so many fucking times

[little oar]

New port, DOOM 1 + 2 are being redone in the KEX engine

It's going to replace the Unity ports from 20...19? 20? I forget

The steam store page is up if you want to read up on what all it's adding, it just replaced the doom 1 store page so if you have it in your library you can easily get to it

The only thing not live yet is the actual game/update itself

Oh, the trailer literally says "available now"
So whenever the trailer starts playing during QC, that's the release

[hardy hamlet]

@little oar We're eatin good in the DOOM community lol

I'm excited for this new port

[little oar]

Same

[modest plover]

BOIS

[raven folio]

KEK

[little oar]

PLEASE don't be like the unity ports that were kind of messy at launch. Please let this be a good, clean launch

[modest plover]

DOOM (1993) is now DOOM + DOOM II in library

[little oar]

Welcome aboard Yaga

[hardy hamlet]

I'm eating potato salad and chicken for dinner and probs playing DOOM tonight

[little oar]

It's all this channel has been talking about for the past hour or so, the store page is live on steam. Feel free to read up on it and see all that's added

[modest plover]

I've been following this for an hour now

even the achievements are up, nice

[hardy hamlet]

No change on PS5 yet

It's still DOOM 1993 and DOOM II

[modest plover]

We got a pistol only Cyberdemon achievement

[hardy hamlet]

Microsoft store app on PC has it up! $9.99

[little oar]

Oh shoot its already going live?

[hardy hamlet]

Sure looks like it

[little oar]

@twin mortar you wanted to know when its up, here you go
Seems like it's starting to go up in some places

[hardy hamlet]

I went to the Microsoft store app on my laptop and searched for DOOM and scrolled down and saw it

[modest plover]

Achievements are up in the library too

[twin mortar]

Yo thanks man, the steam name is changed too

[little oar]

(Note that if bond is seeing the wrong thing then I can not he held legally responsible for the false alarm ping)

[hardy hamlet]

Don't see anything on console

[hexed escarp]

wait is it out?

[modest plover]

not yet

[hardy hamlet]

If i knew how to screenshot on laptop i'd show you LOL

[twin mortar]

Not yet

[hexed escarp]

ah

[modest plover]

its still cooking

I just keep refreshing my library and the store page

[hexed escarp]

idrc about the new port but im excited for the doom 2 hulshult covers and the new maps

[modest plover]

UPDATE UP ON STEAM BOIS

[stark plume]

Tnt evilution map 18 was weird ngl and my dumbass couldn't find the SSG and rocket launcher until the end

[modest plover]

It is up and running

[fallow bolt]

i still cant buy it as someone who didnt own the originals on steam tho

i thought those wouldve happened simultaneously

[vale gyro]

welp

now I gotta add in support for this new shit into my launcher

this is NOT gonna be fun...

[hardy hamlet]

Someone DM me when it's live on console pls lol

[smoky gorge]

WTF JUS HAPPENED TO DOOM HOLY SHIT WTF

WHEN TF DID THIS HAPPEN OMG

[vale gyro]

just now

[smoky gorge]

BETHESDA THIS IS AMAZING

HOLY SHIT

YEEEESSSS

[vale gyro]

it's not gonna be amazing on my end lol

[smoky gorge]

?

[vale gyro]

this

[crude elbow]

CO-OP crossplay?

yo.

This makes me happy.

[twin mortar]

Oh hi, I like your content

[silver sage]

Please dont tell me the console version only has id chosen mods?

[smoky gorge]

HOLY SHIT THIS REMIX IS AMAZING

[twin mortar]

How else would they get them on otherwise? They gotta license it

[vale gyro]

ok, this is an actual upgrade

[smoky gorge]

THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING

[vale gyro]

I take back what I've said

[twin mortar]

I'm staying away from this channel now to avoid spoilers. GGs everyone! 👋

[smoky gorge]

I'M TOO EXCITED HOLY SHIT

[vale gyro]

the menus are fucking great

[smoky gorge]

THIS AMAZING I CANT CONTAIN MY HAPPINESS

[twin mortar]

It's out on Xbox! It's a seperate library entry here too, meaning the Unity versions are still playable :D

[silver sage]

WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT THE SAME MOD BROWSER

AAARRRGHHH

[vagrant mural]

I can see that, you hit your keyboard so hard from excitement that the Capslock got stuck

[proven orchid]

Les gooooo

[twin mortar]

You can only play DOOM II Unity on PC now right? @vale gyro

[silver sage]

I just want myhouse.md and brutal doom aaaaaaaa

[vale gyro]

yeah

[smoky gorge]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/

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[vale gyro]

YO

[hexed escarp]

HOLY SHIT

[vale gyro]

IT HAS THE ROMERO ARCHIVE IMAGES?!

[hexed escarp]

it has mbf21 support!!!!

[vale gyro]

THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING

[hexed escarp]

I just cracked open the legacy of rust wadd

[smoky gorge]

I NEED TO VC WITH SOMEBODY RIGHT FUCKING NOW

I CAN'T CONTAIN MY HAPPINESS

[fallow bolt]

finally its available to buy

[hexed escarp]

legacy of rust needs an mbf21 port

[fallow bolt]

but not part of the sale

[hexed escarp]

meaning this supports mbf21

[tulip portal]

legacy of rust looks peak

[hexed escarp]

and they are using umapinfo now

[fallow bolt]

£8 for 2 games i got on switch for £2 each this new content better be great

[lime arrow]

I've got both Doom and Doom 2 and now they will bundle them into one

[hexed escarp]

im gonna play legacy of rust in a different port lol

since it seems like its mbf21 compatible

but THEY ARE USING THE COMMUNITY SPECS NOW! this is amazing

[tulip portal]

no sigil 2?

[hexed escarp]

wow they used decohack for the new expansion
lmao they are using the community tools to create their official expansions

[median cloud]

Wait whats the KEX engine?

Thats pretty cool since Doom has this built in 35 fps engine right?

[hexed escarp]

seems like the new weapons in the new expansion replace existing ones

[median cloud]

Will it be changed

[little oar]

The engine doom 64 also uses iirc

[lime arrow]

Yeah, it's great to have sigil and master levels into one whole classic doom pack, but still I'm gonna play them in a different port

[little oar]

Just a cleaner engine that's easier to deal with

[hexed escarp]

actually seems like it adds new stuff

[little oar]

Alr fellas so how's the port holding up

[median cloud]

Do you know if it removes the built in ticrate of Doom?

Basically Doom runs on a 35 fps engine

No idea if they will have updated it then?

[little oar]

Not sure, I'm not the guy to ask engine questions to

[lime arrow]

THE MUSIC REMIX IS GREAT

[little oar]

It runs at 60+ fps now though so I assume they've worked around the original 35fps limitation

[vale gyro]

looking into it and the new Episode is currently only working in KEX

might work with GZ, gonna try it

[hexed escarp]

yeah it seems like for the new weapon and enemy resources, instead of using dehextra/dsdhacked, they just defined new lump names for the new sprites and sounds

so ports will need to add support for those

[vale gyro]

it works with GZDoom

[hexed escarp]

actually no nevermind

they did use dsdhacked

[median cloud]

Where did u get the new episode

[vale gyro]

update Doom 1 on Steam

[hexed escarp]

did you try it in woof?

[vale gyro]

yeah

[little oar]

Ofc this happens as soon as I leave for work

[vale gyro]

new weapons don't work

[hexed escarp]

doesnt work?

[median cloud]

ah I dont think I have the og doom on steam...

[finite crag]

Wait, upload mods? Like so others can play them??

[vale gyro]

same in Nugget

[hexed escarp]

huh, it seems like it should

[little oar]

Is it like a built in steam workshop?

[vale gyro]

does Woof support DSDHacked?

[hexed escarp]

yeah

[vale gyro]

maybe my load order is messed up?

[finite summit]

So how would I get Doom + Doom 2 if I already had Doom and Doom 2 in my steam library?

[finite crag]

I want to add my personal WADs like Going Down but I'm unsure if this is just adding it to my install or if this is like adding it to an online store?

[vale gyro]

wait

[finite summit]

GOING DOWN MENTIONED!? shit Map28 was such a joyous fight

[vale gyro]

it uses DOSBOX Staging?!

[median cloud]

Wait so Im a bit confused is this update for doom I and II new?

[fickle fern]

yo is the new update out? i hear its having difficulties

[median cloud]

I can see it in Steam but Im not sure if its actually the new version already or not yet

Like has the KEX engine version of Doom been out for months now or is that new and if its new is this the one that has it?

[smoky gorge]

I NEED TO VC WITH SOMEONE I'M TOO EXCITED ABOUT THIS RERELEASE

NONE OF MY FRIENDS WANT TO SEUIFSBE

ADADHSFSJDGFD

[finite crag]

I tried adding my own WAD and it's stuck on "Uploading WAD."

What does it have to upload to? Isn't it just pointing to the WAD on my computer...?

[little oar]

Doom 1 updates to it

[finite crag]

HOLY SHIT YOU DO UPLOAD TO THEIR SERVERS SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD THEM.

[stoic gull]

damn not on xbox game pass

[finite summit]

mmm

[little oar]

Hooly

[finite crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1214741799026036827/1271194560122454048/image.png?ex=66b673b0&is=66b52230&hm=fe2bbdb54be636536fb7ca6d4ca557a84209bede12ae70b1afae67c7289f6d0b&

These just showed up on my mods page.

[vale gyro]

I'M WRONG, IT'S MEANT TO BE COMPLEVEL 21

[little oar]

This is going to lead to a lot of copy problems isn't it

[finite crag]

Wait so like can you just upload someone else's mod? How does that work?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1214741799026036827/1271194961051652106/image.png?ex=66b67410&is=66b52290&hm=0342b330df6f2e22efdcdd1dd85affdb77e4baab63f66938285dd7eb31a226f4&

Mine just showed up, what the fuck? So you upload other people's or should they upload their own?

[little oar]

I don't think they thought this through very well

Unless it has constant moderation I guess

[finite summit]

Might have to get into doom mapping if uploading is gonna be this easy

[little oar]

How well do the games themselves run?
Glancing at the steam forums and I'm already seeing posts about stuttery music and black boxes behind the text

[hexed escarp]

oh god

[finite crag]

Okay yeah so when you choose to report a mod you can report them for "uploading your own content or if it's copyrighted."

So I guess that's not allowed, but I just uploaded a Going Down WAD because I thought it was just gonna be local, like, just for me lol.

[vagrant mural]

You can report it to Valve and say it is your own work that got uploaded

Oh sorry, you just stated that already

[vagrant mural]

That is not how workshop works haha

[calm cradle]

Assuming long time vets like Mouldy would even pay attention to see if their mods get uploaded

Mouldy, aka Cyriak, made Going Down

Great mod do recommend

[twin mortar]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but where do I change the HUD?

[finite summit]

Just updated

nice one

[finite crag]

Oh it's awesome. I'm just confused as to how this is supposed to work? Should you upload mods you like, or should an author upload it themselves?

[calm cradle]

Ideally the author itself should upload it so their names are properly attached

[finite crag]

Yeah this is really confusing, I don't think they thought this through.

[twin mortar]

Found it, it's at screen size for some reason

[finite crag]

I didn't know this was gonna be a server-wide, add mods for anyone to download thing!

[twin mortar]

I see it lol

[vagrant mural]

Uhm, it is normal on the Workshop to only upload mods of your own making... nothing confusing about that...

[smoky gorge]

The classic music option is really quiet

[finite crag]

This is not the Steam Workshop

The Steam Workshop is not on this game. It's an in-game selection.

[vagrant mural]

Yeah, sorry, just noticed, their own implementation

[finite crag]

See and then that gets complicated by other shit. If Cyriak never uploads Going Down, someone else will, but that's reportable according to their reporting thing, so do you just never get to play that specific WAD on here? I don't get it.

[vagrant mural]

Then reporting it might get more difficult

[proven orchid]

Is it on gamepass

[copper geyser]

DUDE, MY SAVE FILES ARE GONE

[stoic gull]

not yet

[proven orchid]

Hopefully it will be soon

[hexed escarp]

oh wait the maps for legacy of rust were made by community members it seems

xaser made some of them

he also did all of the music

[hardy hamlet]

Waiting on the console release

[stoic gull]

its on xbox

[serene nexus]

Too bad I can't send screenshots to prove that it dropped for me, but it dropped for me.

[hardy hamlet]

I'll check, can't see it on PS

[little oar]

How well does it run?

It's not unity launch levels I hope

[vale gyro]

it runs fine

[hexed escarp]

maybe they should make it so when uploading wads you can say if it wasnt made by you

so that things made by community members long gone can still be uploaded?

[hardy hamlet]

Not seeing it on XBox

[little oar]

Awesome

[finite crag]

Yeah maybe if there was an "Author" field it would make more sense.

[hexed escarp]

yeah

[finite crag]

But as-is you can't edit the author, it just says your Bethesda.net username.

[stoic gull]

are you searching up DOOM + DOOM II

[hexed escarp]

yeah thats an issue

[hardy hamlet]

Yeah, i'll do it through the browser on my laptop instead LOL

[vale gyro]

anyways

I should probably get started on figuring out how I'm gonna implement the expansion

I got absolutely no idea on how I'm gonna do it

[vagrant mural]

Likely not compatible with the new release.

[serene nexus]

I'm on Steam, by the way

[hardy hamlet]

I got it, pS5

[vagrant mural]

Boys and gals, open the properties of "Doom + Doom II" on Steam, go to the Beta tab and the dropdown under "Beta Participation" will allow you to select the 2019 Nerve remaster of Doom I. The 2019 Doom II remaster can be installed and played by just installing and playing "Doom II" in your Steam library, which is still there.

[hexed escarp]

i was NOT expecting mbf21 support

thats pretty rad

[vagrant mural]

mbf21?

[vale gyro]

oh

I was NOT expecting them to allow you to keep playing the Unity port

[vale gyro]

maybe just make the user import the files or something??

[vagrant mural]

Likely because not all mods might be compatible with the new version. But honestly, all publishers should do this to just give the users choice...

[vale gyro]

I don't know, it's gonna be a pain in the ass nonetheless

[vale gyro]

all mods would be compatibile

[serene nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-emperor-palpatine-anakin-gif-23544576

[stoic gull]

oh shit its on gamepass @proven orchid

[proven orchid]

Nice

[finite crag]

Made a post about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1eng8y9/confused_over_how_uploading_mods_is_supposed_to/?

[fading hound]

Dooooommmm

[vagrant mural]

Yeah, Unity version was quite bad at release, but after a few major updates it got pretty good, but thanks to a brand new remaster from Nightdive, it is likely extremely good now

[hexed escarp]

mbf21 is a very commonly used doom modding/mapping specification that expandds on the mbf/boom format and adds more stuff you can use with dehacked

[copper geyser]

awww, that was my proof of getting all the levels finished with 200 armor and health :C

[vagrant mural]

Good constructive post, nice

[vagrant mural]

#classic-doom message Might be able to get those back using the old version?

[vagrant mural]

Thanks for the clear explanation. Sorry, not deep into the modding-scene

[copper geyser]

I'll try it out!

[warm island]

DOOOOOM?

Ps4 still nothing

😞

[fresh sparrow]

i have both doom 1 and 2 on ps when are they coming out

[limber juniper]

my friend has to refund doom 2 because he bought it for me

[copper geyser]

Awwww Hell Yeah! My save files are right there!! Thanks!

[fresh sparrow]

nvm its out

[copper geyser]

Who still has DOOM 2 in their Desktop after they removed it from steam? Raise their hands!

[stoic gull]

cursed pfp

[fresh sparrow]

ya i know

do they delete my trophies on ps

i had 89% compeltion on both

those nightmare co op and complete the game under 2 hours are a nightmare

[vagrant mural]

It is even still in your Steam library

not going anywhere

[vagrant mural]

Thanks for the thanks 🙂

[hexed escarp]

the new expansion is SO GOOD

[fresh sparrow]

they reset my trophies

[limber juniper]

steam dosbox lags on Linux

[fresh sparrow]

i might go back to getting them if they removed the ridicoulous trophies

[hexed escarp]

can you load a wad file from your computer without uploading it to the mod page?

[proven orchid]

I think they will probably find a fix

[fresh sparrow]

nah i think otherwise

[proven orchid]

They will fix it over time like the 2020 release hopefully

[fresh sparrow]

what happened in 2020

[proven orchid]

They released doom on modern consoles but it was kinda bad at launch

[silver sage]

Can someone port brutal doom to this new version fr

Thatd be sick

[proven orchid]

Im not an expert but i think it's gonna be very hard to port a gzdoom exclusive mod to another engine (kex)

[silver sage]

Might take a while

But it can be done

[proven orchid]

Does kex even have the capabilities of gzdoom

[silver sage]

I mean...you cant look up or down..that might be a problem

[abstract iris]

so I'm downloading the new port now on Switch [actually had to download off the eShop and not update Doom 1] and for anyone on switch curious there was a blurb mentioning that the mod workshop there only had curated stuff

[proven orchid]

Idkfa ost and brutal doom is a very good combo

[silver sage]

Fr

Wait...did someone port myhouse?

Its on the browser

[hexed escarp]

its probably the vanilla version

[sturdy gorge]

Time for some DOOM DOOM II

[vale gyro]

just found out the new port has a console

[brisk heath]

cacodemon holez

[silver sage]

People keep trying to port myhouse to this new version and ofc its not working

[remote cedar]

Hey guys question about the Doom + Doom II remaster, when the trailer says "remixed soundtrack by Andrew Hulshult" do they also mean for all of Doom II? Because yeah IDKFA has all of Doom 1993 in it but originally Andrew only covered a few Doom II songs. Is that still the case or did he cover everything for this remaster?

[twin mortar]

He finished the rest of the tracks

[remote cedar]

Wait nevermind I just read the page's full description. I can't fucking WAIT for that Evil Incarnate cover hell yeah

[remote cedar]

Thanks for the heads up!

[fresh sparrow]

tf is the new font at the ned of the levels 😭😭😭

even at the end of chapters

[twin mortar]

It is not a new font, it's just positioned differnetly and has shadows

[fresh sparrow]

i dont understand why they didnt keep the old one

[vagrant mural]

Maybe that is why they adjusted the achievements? Seems intentional

[twin mortar]

Master Levels for DOOM II is now playable as a campaign

[remote cedar]

oh by the way guys help me out here, what's the KEX engine?

[hexed escarp]

its another game engine

[twin mortar]

Engine used by Nightdive for DOOM 64, Quake and Quake II remasters

[hexed escarp]

like unity, unreal, or godot

[remote cedar]

Is it any good? Do you guys prefer DSDA or GZDoom to it?

[hexed escarp]

its not a source port

[remote cedar]

Oh wait it's not a proper sourceport I'm dumb

[hexed escarp]

its a general use game engine

[remote cedar]

Okay okay

[hexed escarp]

not doom specific

they have ported doom into this engine like they did with unity in 2019

[remote cedar]

but would you say it's better than what we had for the Unity ports?

[silver sage]

You think that myhouse will get ported to kex?

[hexed escarp]

not possible

myhouse used gzdoom which is basically a completely different engine

[remote cedar]

myhouse is a nightmare of portals and UDMF I don't think we're seeing it ported to KEX anytime soon

[hexed escarp]

yeah

[calm cradle]

Y'all better behave here while I stream too

[median cloud]

Why is kex better than unity

[calm cradle]

The unity ports used a 486 emulator, so the game wasn't running natively, and fixes had to be sort of hot loaded into it

Kex is an FPS engine designed oround playing retro shooters. The game runs native on Kex and does it well.

if you've played any nightdive remasters, such as Blood, Doom 64, or Turok, you've played on the Kex engine

[vagrant mural]

Multithreading is also muuuuuuuuuch improved, delivering better performance with less power consumption, likely benefiting Switch especially

And Steam Deck/ROG Ally etc.

[hexed escarp]

also it supports a bunch of community mod standards so its able to play a much wider range of custom wads

but yeah looks like people are alreadddy uploading tons of wads they diddnt make lol

[hushed pelican]

hey doom fans

[hexed escarp]

this feels like a dumb question

what button do you press to filter mods in the mods page

[hushed pelican]

the Eviternity wad is on the catalogy too?

[hexed escarp]

yeah somebody uploaded it

[finite crag]

Someone added it themselves. It isn't curated.

[hushed pelican]

[median cloud]

Is pistol starting easy to do in this port of Doom

[smoky gorge]

why is there significantly lower fps depending on your res?
i shouldn't be getting around 70 fps when on 2560 x 1440 @144

[smoky gorge]

yes

[median cloud]

Lmao doom is just that tough to run man

High tech graphics n all

Can run it on a toaster but only at 35 fps

[smoky gorge]

lol

[vale gyro]

for me it's really choppy

at a constant 144 FPS, not even dipping to 143

and it feels like I'm playing at 60hz even though I know for a fact I'm not

[errant quest]

How do you get it on Switch?

[vestal anchor]

i dislike this new port, rip to those that dont already have doom 2 purchased

[abstract iris]

I got it off the eShop

[vestal anchor]

is it a seperate purchase or is it the same as the doom 1 app

[abstract iris]

separate

for me it was free

[smoky gorge]

what are your issues with it?

[vestal anchor]

i dont really dislike it, its more of i prefer the older sourceport

the new font should be changed though

[vale gyro]

if anyone else is experiencing this on PC let me know, please

want to know if it's just a me issue or not

[vestal anchor]

mine seems to be fine

[limber juniper]

it's the same one with a shadow

for some reason

[finite crag]

Yeah I'm really worried about the implementation of the mods here. I want to play vanilla WADs with this port, but there's no convenient way to add them to the game without also uploading, which is breaking Bethesda's code of conduct.

I don't want to upload fuckin' Hellevator to the game servers and steal credit for it. I just want it present in my copy of the port.

[limber juniper]

they should add a way to credit the developer

[amber herald]

I just saw it now, DOOM hecking updated???

[vestal anchor]

yeah, apparantly its doom 2 now also

[amber herald]

New arranged ost????

I think i died in my sleep and woke up in heaven

[vestal anchor]

yea its trippy to think about

[amber herald]

Did ID tease this before, or was it a suprise launch?

[vestal anchor]

not sure

also if you try and read the terms on service on the switch port, it crashes lmfao. found this out by mistake

[amber herald]

Lol

If they have fixed the online im gonna buy my friends a copy

[vestal anchor]

your friend should get it for free if he already owns doom

[amber herald]

He doesnt so i am gonna gift him one copy

[serene nexus]

Okay, why the hell isn't The Only Thing They Fear Is You achievement not being granted for me?
100% kills, no damage, minutes of struggle???

[amber herald]

Oof

[twin mortar]

I read somewhere you need to get 100 percent kills, items and secrets, but it still didn't pop (make sure you're on UV)

[slim river]

it has to be done in a single segment without using save/load

[serene nexus]

Didn't even F5F9

[slim river]

I did it on E2M8 and worked just fine

[amber herald]

So what should i do with my doom 2 copy?

[twin mortar]

Oh that's actually smart

[vale gyro]

they added online multiplayer to the new port I think

[vestal anchor]

sit back and know you have the original

there nothin else really they are similar ports

[vale gyro]

too bad the stuttering/choppiness won't allow me to physically play it

[vestal anchor]

im happy they added difficulty modifers, they ever added it in a spot where a youtuber pointed out there was room for it

[vale gyro]

oh, they did?

[vestal anchor]

yep they did

in the level select

[pine violet]

Oh my God Doom 1 and 2 has been updated

They added a new episode

Best part is I can't even play it due to my crappy laptop not working

And my amazing laptop's mouse not working

[vale gyro]

I found a way to kinda remedy it

turn on v-sync but set the FPS cap to 60

dunno why it works but it does

[versed cedar]

damn now wadsmoosh has to be updated to include legacy of rust

[versed cedar]

wonder if gzdoom needs updating to play nice

[vale gyro]

still playing at 144 FPS, though

[hexed escarp]

now that the official port supports mbf21 and boom and such, maybe someone should make a proper mbf21 guide for people to use who want to make maps/mods for the official port

[vale gyro]

it doesn't actually

as the new episode is merely a PWAD

[versed cedar]

doom classic finally does what ive been asking it to. combine all of classic doom into one package

[amber herald]

True

[spark torrent]

rip me who only has doom 1+2 through other games lol (3 bfg and eternal)

[amber herald]

Big oof

[white vault]

Gosh dang it

[versed cedar]

theyre dirt cheap on steam

[white vault]

I was looking for the Doom Project Brutality server

This isn't it :c

[versed cedar]

but i mean ALL of classic doom and not just doom 1 and 2

so like nrftl, sigil, pe,tnt, etc

it's all here

no the price is still 10 bucks

[amber herald]

Not anymore, with the update came an price increase

[spark torrent]

Yeah they're just under $15 for me. $18 actually
could easily get em but ehhh maybe some other time

[versed cedar]

where?

[amber herald]

On the steam

[spark torrent]

oh no hold on I completely lied, $18 for me

[remote sparrow]

lmao if you play the steam version since it's so fresh all the achievements are at 0.1% so everything appears as a rare one

[versed cedar]

ok ill go and check again after refresh

[spark torrent]

Also not on sale atm

[amber herald]

Im from Brazil, the game went from R$8.00 to 50,00

[spark torrent]

I can wait lol

[versed cedar]

nope still 9.99 usd from my end

oof that's why. sorry brazil.

[amber herald]

XD

[versed cedar]

i wonder why the price hike only there specifically?

[amber herald]

Weird right?

[spark torrent]

I'll nab it if my friend does seeing as I wanted to do multiplayer with them someday

curse of region pricing

[remote cedar]

man this new Andrew Hulshult soundtrack for Doom II is just delightful

[versed cedar]

very. it's as dirt cheap as it ever was. actually more so because everythings bundled together

[remote cedar]

not a single miss so far

[amber herald]

Indeed

[versed cedar]

i still prefer the old midis but thats mainly a preference

[remote cedar]

I mean, they're still here

You can choose between remixes and originals

[versed cedar]

yeah they are.

[spark torrent]

I wouldn't say dirt cheap for my region but still fairly affordable

[remote cedar]

There's definitely a different vibe to the remixes though I'll give you that

[versed cedar]

...i keep thinking everything is priced the same everywhere

[jade solstice]

BRO LETS GO

Crossplay online doom - my dream, has happened

WOOOOOOOO

[spark torrent]

tbf my 'dirt cheap' is $5 or less for something like eternal

[versed cedar]

for me it's everything 20 dollars and under

tbf this is everything bundled. before doom, doom 2, and master levels were each 10 bucks seperately.

[jade solstice]

And a new episode babyyyy

[versed cedar]

several, actually. no rest for the living, sigil, and the recent legacy of rust.

i know sigil and nrftl arent new technically but they were add-ons for doom 2

though i have to ask where do tnt, plutonia, nrftl, sigil, and now legacy of rust fit in?

[jade solstice]

Very cool that it’s free for the legacy owners too

What a sweet surprise
I didn’t even know about this until just now basically

[remote cedar]

I'm honestly glad. My dumb idiot self would've bought that game again 😭

[jade solstice]

I would’ve too idc lol online has been a want for so long

[median cloud]

Online doom been a thing for a while now
Crossplay is new though

[crude elbow]

I dont think the online functionality was there in the unity port though.

Atleast not on xbox

[median cloud]

Yeah you’re probably right I was just thinking pc

[amber herald]

I'm playing thru doom 1 with the remastered ost when i reached e1m4 i pogged irl

[sick yacht]

I think not even on PC if you didnt use mods

Xbox 360 Doom had online and they removed it on Xbox One...

[hexed escarp]

wait till you get to e2m8

thats one of my favorite of the hulshult tracks

[amber herald]

Cant wait

[remote cedar]

Since I downloaded IDKFA I know the soundtrack pretty well and most of these remixes are a banger

[hexed escarp]

they should add a way to uploadd other peoples things and credit it to them

[hexed escarp]

yeah same

but the fact that he did the rest of the doom 2 ones is pretty epic

[finite crag]

I'm just worried I'll get my Bethesda account banned or something.

[remote cedar]

It's not just that, he did remake some tracks back then but he remade them again for this remaster

[edgy tiger]

Game has immense mouse lag

Any ideas how to fix it?

[hexed escarp]

oh he redid his old doom 2 ones?

are you sure? because I listened to into sandy's city and it seems the same as his old one, just with a bit of the beginning cut out

[remote cedar]

Yup

[hardy hamlet]

The Master Levels have been reverted to the way they were on PS3. Weapons and items will carry from level to level.

[remote cedar]

I didn't really listen to that one much but I know for a fact he redid Running From Evil, DOOM and The Demon's Dead

[hexed escarp]

ah

maybe he kept some of them but redid others

oh yeah he did redo sandy's city, it just sounds similar

[finite crag]

Has anyone figured out if you can load PWADs on top of IWADs? Being able to use the Plutonia MIDI pack would be nice.

[glossy trail]

Its me or the movement is kinda...ugh

[vale gyro]

Everything in new the port feels faster

Don’t know why

[glossy trail]

Well always run option is kinda the main faiture on but yeah it feels odd

[hexed escarp]

you dont like always run?

thats what i usually play with, since holding down the run key always is annoying

[glossy trail]

Yeah i like it, but i always play in prboom port so idk...

[vale gyro]

Personally keep it off due to being used to having it off

[pearl creek]

yall what do i choose. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021881524473319467/1271253713297871023/image.png?ex=66b6aac8&is=66b55948&hm=36e050142a284b46baaae086d27c204812f88ddba65c3fb7072a8138c9b618e8&

[glossy trail]

Remix is good

The corpses and part of the decoration dissapears and appeara for about 0.5 seconds

[pearl creek]

i wanna go with remix purely bc of the demo mix sounding more metal. idk

I DID NOT JUST GET DOOM 2 WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT

[vale gyro]

I’m still over here trying to get it all set up so I can use the remixes on external ports

[pearl creek]

steam bundled doom 1 and 2 together so now i just got doom 2 for free. les go super shotgun

[hexed escarp]

prboom has autorun

[pearl creek]

yall do i play doom 2 at max fov?

[lapis wolf]

If you want to

[pearl creek]

what would you suggest. im assuming its not like eternal with demons flying at you from all angles so it would be less needed right?

[lapis wolf]

I mean some mods do have a shitton of demons surrounding you. Even more than Eternal.

[pearl creek]

im not planning on modding soon

im thinking just stick with 90

[glossy trail]

What im trying to say is that i feel that there is something strange about the gameplay

[hexed escarp]

its possible, i havent played the new port much

ive just been playing the new expansion in a different port

[bright falcon]

guys i have the 2019 rerelaseses of both of the games in epic games it hasnt upgraded

[glossy trail]

Have you searched in your library?

[edgy tiger]

I have both steam versions and the game updated fine for me

[pearl creek]

i have steam version of doom 1. i get doom 2 for free. me happy

[plain mist]

I noticed it as well, I can quite put my finger on why though

[limber juniper]

you don't like metal????

[pearl creek]

i absolutely love metal, how did you come to the conclusion that i didnt?

[limber juniper]

my dumbass read that wrong mb

also the Bethesda.net login screen is stuck loading on Linux

[fierce plank]

Brutal Doom when?

[limber juniper]

zdoom mod, not compatible with the game

[fierce plank]

The re-remake?

[limber juniper]

yes

the remake only has boom compatability

[fierce plank]

They will make it happen sooner or later

[lapis wolf]

There is Boiled DOOM (Vanilla Brutal) that works. But that's the closest thing you'll get

[night echo]

i was checking my steam library and got jumpscared

is anyone else talking about how the steam listing for doom 1 now also includes doom 2, several extra episodes/mods, and unique built-in achievements

[fierce plank]

Is it avaible?

[hexed escarp]

unfortunately no. Brutal Doom is a mod for gzdoom which is basically a completely different engine with tons of extra features. They are not going to add support for this to the official port because it would basically be a complete rewrite of all of the code. Gzdoom uses very little of the original game's code at this point

[cold nimbus]

so spoiler for the final new doom episode do not use the flame thrower in close range

[night echo]

also i bought doom 2 separately

[hexed escarp]

ah its like the flamethrower from heartland

[night echo]

so like. bruh

[fierce plank]

Aw man

[cold nimbus]

also the final level is basically the archivile maze from plutonia execept with those fire barons

[glossy trail]

Sunlust ufff

[lapis wolf]

Yeah I just played Boiled DOOM on my Xbox One like 30 minutes ago

[glossy trail]

Machine god was from sunder or sunlust?

[fierce plank]

Try Free Doom next

[hexed escarp]

thats from sunlust

and its god machine

[night echo]

there’s now an achievement for classic doom called “the only thing they fear is you”. we have come full circle

[glossy trail]

Thx ^^

[glossy trail]

100%kills no damage

[limber juniper]

wrong channel ig

[night echo]

also are they just like not going to acknowledge the fact that doom 2 is also on steam and that people paid for that separately

[silver sage]

Is it on kex yet?

[limber juniper]

yeah my friend has to open a support ticket because he bought me the game

[vagrant mural]

Still available though...

[limber juniper]

it's the fact that you're never gonna use it again and you probably realised you bought a game and then they gave you another copy for free

[silver sage]

I dont get why the myhouse port has so many likes...it doesnt work

[hexed escarp]

lol

dont expect a myhouse port to happen

[limber juniper]

speaking of that

someone ported nuts.wad

[hexed escarp]

that doesnt need a port

that wad was boom compatible already

[silver sage]

The port is on the new game but you cant load it...and it has loads of likes and idk why

[silver sage]

What about brutal doom

[timber notch]

so I was halfway through a playthrough of Doom 1 before the update dropped, and my save file is gone...

[silver sage]

Didnt save...

[lapis wolf]

Lol I just tried Nuts, and while it works, the frame rate is horrible on Xbox One LMFAO.

[hexed escarp]

#classic-doom message

[limber juniper]

the old version is available in a steam beta if you have it there

[hexed escarp]

this applies to both brutal doom and myhouse

[pearl creek]

all good, dw

[vagrant mural]

Well, it cost you a few bucks tops, so not losing much

[silver sage]

So the only good mods wont be playable

Got it

[hexed escarp]

if you think that gzdoom mods are "the only good mods", then yes

[pale fox]

Hey yall, anyone here experienced with modding? I'm trying to upload a pretty basic PSX doom level wad, and I get this error: r_init textures missing patch AASHITTY. The wad file can be found here: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1150353#p1150353 any help?

I don't think it can only run in GZDoom

[silver sage]

What if someone made a new brutal doom...like from the ground up for the new engine

[hexed escarp]

they could

it probably wont have some of the fancy effects of the gzdoom version

[solemn summit]

Anyone know how to fix Midi synth so it actually uses my chosen Midi and not the Microsoft GS Wave Table

[thick token]

btw, is the doom + doom 2 update coming to the mobile versions?

[hexed escarp]

actually yeah you wont be able to have reloading or secondary fire and stuff like that

but someone could other than those elements

but a lot of the same stuff wont be possible

[timber notch]

how?

[hexed escarp]

actually yeah brutal doom has way more weapons than original and in mbf21 you can only replace existing weapons

[thick token]

theres a "dehacked" version

[hexed escarp]

so it wouldd have to be a bit of a stripped down version

[thick token]

its ok, it just has better blood sprites and different death anims

[silver sage]

Is it not on the browser yet?

[limber juniper]

go to properties > betas and select the old 2019 version

[thick token]

no

i found it a long time ago, but it has a different hud and weapon animations

[silver sage]

Just tried it.. havent played nuts.wad before and i was not ready for what i saw

Thats alot of bitches

[timber notch]

is there a way to import my old save file into the new version?

[hexed escarp]

they need to add a way to search to the mod browser

[limber juniper]

no unfortunately

[hexed escarp]

its gonna be hell to navigate if they are all just piled in there and you have to scroll throguh

[timber notch]

welp. thanks bethesda.

[zenith berry]

When does Legacy of Rust take place? Would it be after or before Sigil?

[limber juniper]

they're 2 different engines so they can't do it, plus doom takes 3 hours on average

[timber notch]

round of applause for the clowns of the game industry

remastering games that got remasters less than 5 years ago

naughty dog better watch out

[smoky gorge]

WHY IS IT USING 50% OF MY CPU

#screenshots message

[hexed escarp]

OH GOD THE SOUNDFONT IT USES IS HORRIBLE

they have to fix this

[timber notch]

what exactly was wrong with the old versions and what's so good with this new one?

[smoky gorge]

a little buggy + uneven pixel scaling
and prolly some other issues only bethesda and nerve knew

[solemn summit]

Why is midi synth still using Default MS GS Wave when I already have shi like Coolmapper and virtualmidisynth?

[limber juniper]

old ones didn't have online multiplayer, TNT and plutonia were mods, and the new chapter isn't included

[finite crag]

The new enemies in this port are so fucking cool.

[lapis wolf]

Sunlust, BTS X E2, Eviternity, Ancient Aliens, Going Down, etc....are all great mods IMO

[hexed escarp]

they arent actually new enemies in the port, the port just implements the mbf21/dsdhacked modding standards and the expansion uses dehacked to implement these enemies

[fierce plank]

Doom 3 remake when?

[hexed escarp]

so if you take the wads out, they are actually playable in any other mbf21 compatible port with the custom enemies

[finite crag]

I doubt they really care, but if I had to guess it'd likely be in that same camp that Final Doom is in - the Vaguely Defined and Inconsequential Episodes of Doom that are happening after Doom II and before Doom 64.

[finite crag]

Well yeah but you know what I mean, new to the roster of enemies.

[hexed escarp]

yeah

they are cool, although im only on map03 atm so i havent seen many yet

[fierce plank]

Best mods to play in re-remake Doom?

[limber juniper]

I hate super specific achievements, what do you mean shoot 200 bullets with a minigun without stopping

[hexed escarp]

my personal favorite doom wad is Eviternity, although it was only uploaded unofficially so there may be issues and stuff

[fierce plank]

Ez

[limber juniper]

yeah but what's the point of it, it has nothing important other than just wasting your time

[finite crag]

not really that hard, if you're worried about it just back up your save

i mean save it before you do it

[thick token]

i think a speedrun demo of it took a week to play and had like 1 frame per hour

iirc

[fierce plank]

Playing Doom 2 on Hurt me Plenty is ez

Ultra-Violense is too hard for me, yet

[finite crag]

use circle strafing

it works on most things

[worldly tulip]

you'll get there man! when you can play through Doom II on UV you'll feel incredible

[thick token]

the jump from hurt me plenty to uv is like going from an arena shooter to a tactical shooter

[worldly tulip]

real; also, does the movement feel weird on the new kex engine re release or is that just me being used to gzdoom?

[limber juniper]

im gonna do plutonia blind run on uv when i beat the others for the funny wish me luck

[thick token]

it feels slower in a way

but how much can you mod doom? im talking like custom weapons not just sprites (in the kex engine)

[cursive flax]

you'll get there. as someone who's beaten it on UV multiple times, it can get difficult but it's worth it

[worldly tulip]

yeah it does

[cursive flax]

does anyone know where to submit bug reports for this latest re-release?

[limber juniper]

someone try nuts.wad on a current gen console

[fierce plank]

Thank you ❤️

[ionic ivy]

I can’t wait to try the new rerelease

[solemn summit]

Can confirm, You can't get to the Secret Level on E3M6 without rockets now

[fierce plank]

Does the re-release work in 120fps?

[worldly tulip]

huh!

wonder why they changed the movement

[cursive flax]

well, that's how it was way back in '93 iirc

[worldly tulip]

was it? most modern sourceports let you do stuff like that

[solemn summit]

You can strafe run int on the original idtech 1 version

[fierce plank]

Where i can toggle this or does it come automatically?

[solemn summit]

And most sourceports

I tried to strafe run which is like 99% accurate, and missed

[limber juniper]

you can't go to the 3rd e1m1 secret without a former human lowering the ground for you in the trigger area

[finite crag]

It's you being used to GzDoom. According to one of the devs they specifically designed everything to be demo compatible with vanilla Doom.

So what you're playing is normal Doom movement, what you're used to is GzDoom which moves a bit differently.

[worldly tulip]

huh, alright-- it just feels a lot slower than what i'm used too, like there's more inertia

[timber notch]

I'm just gonna finish Doom 1 on the old version

I think updating the old version would have been just fine

[thick token]

yep

[limber juniper]

they changed the engine

[plain mist]

Yeah multiplayer movement is terrible. I was playing on a 18ms server and it was not smooth at all

[thick token]

true that

[cursive flax]

ah, true

[thick token]

i bet when that one university's servers went down because too many students were playing doom, they probably had better ping than rn

[worldly tulip]

did they change the way momentum works so strafe running works differently, i wonder

[limber juniper]

i love being in iraq and every server being thousands of kilometres away from me

1 full second of input delay, very fun

[worldly tulip]

o7

[thick token]

bros playing 4d doom with multiverse timetravel

[worldly tulip]

hopefully it gets fixed up soon

[thick token]

reminds me of the modem team from reelism 2

[limber juniper]

you can report people in the game, imagine getting banned in doom 1993

[thick token]

for what? "my config is too good i swear"

[limber juniper]

be honest no one is gonna cheat in this game

[thick token]

fr

[hardy hamlet]

Ban them back to the dark ages lol

[thick token]

cheating in cross platform games is messed up

and also are the mobile versions getting updated too?

[solemn summit]

I just need to ask why they'd put in a midi synth option, but don't let you manually tune how to set it on the pc version

[limber juniper]

someone uploaded the sigil Buckethead pack😬

[solemn summit]

Yeah I saw that lol

[thick token]

since theres dehacked support, someones 100% adding the shieldsaw from dark ages

[jaunty river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254848511501926511/1271167140174626908/8znyq7.gif

[limber juniper]

nuts.wad runs at 17 fps on 4gb of ram

[worldly tulip]

there is?

[limber juniper]

dehacked support has been in the game since 2019 lol

[pine violet]

I got my amazing Laptop to work

[pine violet]

I don't think we're allowed to discuss that

For obvious reasons

[thick token]

yeah, with you facing the farthest corner

[limber juniper]

i was in the spawn

[thick token]

what

17 fps with 4 gb of ram is insane for nuts

i probably overestimated

[limber juniper]

if i go in the middle of the enemies i get 7 max

#screenshots message

[timber notch]

ah thanks this worked

I hope there's a way to transfer save files in the future

[nimble nest]

So on Xbox, theres a rerelease of Doom and Doom II as a combined product??

Now theres like 3 different versions of doom and doom II
360 versions for both,
Then like.. xbox 1 versions for both?
And now a 2024, i think, rerelease of them as one game.

[jade solstice]

No achievements in co op? 😦

[nimble nest]

Also I think already owning the Xb1 versions made it so I also own the rerelease?

[jade solstice]

Yes

[nimble nest]

Wdym?

[jade solstice]

I’m not getting any in co op idk

[nimble nest]

You playing the rerelease?

[jade solstice]

Yes

[nimble nest]

hm, i dunno check the achievements list to aim for something specific. If that dont work.. the xb1 versions had achievements disabled if you had an addon active. Idk about the rerelease tho, im new to it.

[jade solstice]

I’m playing regular doom 1

I’ve done like 3 things and gotten none so

[nimble nest]

If you're playing cooperative Doom 1 levels, that might just be a feature. The achievements are prolly meant to be gotten in singleplayer runs.

[celest coyote]

[jade solstice]

Das lame though sadge

[nimble nest]

I kinda wish they added co-op to the xb1 versions retro actively, and for a second I thought they did, but no, the release is a new instance entirely, not an update.

I wanted the co-op achievements in it but they were stupid weird and difficult to get with just local co-op

Still the case for the xb1 games, but atleast the new version supports it. Thats great.

[jade solstice]

The achievements all seem fairly easy aside from a couple so

Even if solo only, that’s fine I guess

There’s only a single level for nightmare achievement lol so that’s good
Hate nightmare
Too much for me tbh w the respawning enemies

I’m not gud (fast) enough

If anyone figures out what the “modern co op” setting is, ping me lol

I played a level with and without
No observations

[amber herald]

I just reached mt erebus on the new remaster

After im done with ultimate doom im going for doom 2 and the new pwad

[worldly tulip]

jumped into an 8 person coop match where it devolved into everyone using the chainsaw and going "R" but a lot in chat (dyno deleted my message for spamming so i gotta do that)

10/10 no notes

[teal delta]

uuh so why is my bluetooth headset with the sound of rocks raining on a metal roof when i open the game?

is it supposed to reproduce the terrible sound cards from the past?

[vestal wing]

Honestly I fw this update heavy lol

[upper crypt]

https://youtu.be/EErzNnVsFkA?si=MwxwLGDNAWH8L3Zd

Not sure how I can install this, I have both DOOM and DOOM 2

[raven folio]

on steam? Your steam will update and automatically merge the two games together via update

[upper crypt]

No I’m on PS5

[raven folio]

ah

[timber notch]

doom multiplayer is pretty crazy

[spice radish]

the new Legacy of Rust episode is great so far good soundtrack and its also cool hearing Andrews remake again

[teal delta]

dunno why my bluetooth headset the sound gets awful when i open the game

[undone scarab]

Hello, I have also come to ask if anyone knows why my bluetooth headset's mic keeps turning on when booting up the new doom 1+2 game even after disabling the microphone in the settings.

[teal delta]

exactly!

same problem here, then the sound gets horrible. and there's no config i can change in the game to change that

[undone scarab]

Yeah, it bit compresses my audio as well.

[lime arrow]

Now with this new update I feel the urge to platinum it

[prisma hawk]

Okay, need an answer, when does LOR take place

I wish more people cared about the real timeline story

[limber juniper]

how do you play the master levels on a source port

are the maps just pwads?

[austere tangle]

Just got the new DOOM + DOOM II remaster for free, and I'm playing DOOM II to celebrate

Accessibility options are a blessing as always

[smoky dawn]

So... what's this I hear about a new episode..?

[austere tangle]

Yeah they got it bundled up in the new remaster and it looks uh

(I can't type geez)

Really interesting and creepy (the new demons do anyway)

[coarse moss]

Updated on the Switch port and played through the first two maps of Legacy of Rust, it's friggin' incredible. I love how much pre-release content made it in the maps, as well as the iD vault.

The Switch port also has some very nice new QoL features like the accessibility features and the ability to use gameplay modifiers on any difficulty (fast monsters, multiplayer placements, etc.)
No new mods however, they all seem to be maps that were already available on the old Switch ports like BTSX my beloved and syringe

I've seen people take pics of the new release on other plat forms and they got new mods that modify gameplay and art but everything's all still new and I'm still picking up on stuff