#classic-doom

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remote cedar
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goddammit 😔

cold gust
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I guess I will listen to the Dos music

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I don't dislike it tho

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Kitchen Ace sounded real good

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wait

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I believe both soundtrack sound the same?

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What did the Unity steam version do wrong

azure nimbus
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there are slight changes to movement, a laggy pause menu, some sprite changes, and less flexibility in terms of what custom wads you can play. But it's good for new players

near crypt
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So I gotta find 2 wads, a one piece themed wad and a adventure time themed wad

near crypt
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WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT PUT HERETIC.WAD INTO ZDOOM WITH DOOM 2

finite crag
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I'm curious as to why. Does it conflict with the Wad files?

cold gust
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but I noticed difference in the lighting and resolution between steam and GZDoom

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Rerelease looks a bit like Dos

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and GZDoom just puts it to the max

remote cedar
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worst part is there probably was no reason for that last change

cold gust
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did the steam version of Doom 2 do something wrong too

vast reef
cold gust
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Less gooo I finished episode 1

hexed escarp
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hardware rendering looks cool but it changes the mood of some areas for better and worse depending on the area

halcyon willow
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keep in mind gzdoom has many visual settings and you can get it looking functionally the same as the original

near crypt
cold gust
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I have lighting set to vanilla..

vast reef
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vanilla is vanilla gzdoom i'm pretty sure

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set lighting to doom

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also even then, software and hardware rendering are completely different no matter what light setting

cold gust
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software makes the graphics melt

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the floor looks wobbly

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I'm better with hardware

vale gyro
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That’s how idTech1 runs

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However, games like Heretic (if I recall correctly) use freelook even though it’s used idTech1

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Which shows the warping you see

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Dark Force’s engine also has similar issues when you look up and down in that game (sorry for this not being doom related at all, but my excuse is it’s based on Star Doom)

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So in short, hardware is a lot better when it comes to freelook

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And software when you just want a more classic feel

vast reef
vast reef
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but virtually correct

vale gyro
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I’m at that type of correct

near crypt
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Feed me total conversion wads

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I need them to live

vale gyro
near crypt
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The maps just don't appear

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Same with Chex quest

vale gyro
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What do you mean?

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What source port are you using?

near crypt
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Zdoom

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Chex quest is old so idk why I won't work

vale gyro
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This sounds really fucking stupid but maybe try GZDoom and see if it will load with that?

near crypt
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Slight problem...windows xp

vale gyro
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Only solution I can think of in my head without any proper fore-knowledge

vale gyro
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How you loading them?

near crypt
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I have doom 2 in the Zdoom folder so I just drag the wad in

vale gyro
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Chex Quest is an IWAD iirc

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But REKKR is just a total conversion

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So uhh, try just using the command line

near crypt
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Zdoom runs iwads right?

vale gyro
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That may work

vale gyro
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You can’t play doom without an IWAD

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It’s literally impossible

near crypt
vale gyro
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The command prompt?

near crypt
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I'm very new to this

vale gyro
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So go to your file explorer to your directory of ZDoom

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In the path bar on the top, type in CMD and it should pull up

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I’m using knowledge of Win10, but I think this feature is in XP

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I know CMD is in XP

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Just not sure if that quick method of getting to it is

near crypt
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Wait how do I go to the directory of zdoom

vale gyro
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You’d want to do something like zdoom -iwad doom2.wad -file rekker.wad

vale gyro
near crypt
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Yup

vale gyro
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There you go

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You got the directory

near crypt
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Oh

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So type CMD in path bar...

vale gyro
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Uh huh

near crypt
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Idk where that is

vale gyro
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A window should pop up if XP has that quick method of entering CMD

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The little bar on the top of file explorer

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Where your folders are shown in a line inside it

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Like horizontally

vale gyro
near crypt
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Wait so the full file name?

vale gyro
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Lemme send something in screenshots, hold on

near crypt
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Yeah I think visuals would help lol

vale gyro
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Actually

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It’s the white space in the window near the top

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Should be mostly to the left

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Left to the Go Button

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Aka the address bar apparently

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If you can’t access CMD that way

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Well, you gotta do it the hard way and well, not gonna be happy to explain that

near crypt
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So after the name of the file I just put CMD?

vale gyro
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I guess?

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I never have touched XP so I’m doing guess work

near crypt
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Well I can't send pictures in here

vale gyro
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After you do that a black window should pop up

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Otherwise, we gotta do it the more annoying way

near crypt
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This is gonna suck

vale gyro
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Cntrl-R then type in CMD

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Press Enter

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Then in the prompt, type in cd [directory of ZDoom]

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Of course to replace it with the proper directory

near crypt
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So Ctrl R didn't work

vale gyro
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Ok

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So the even more annoying way

near crypt
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Just click the run button in start menu ig

vale gyro
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I guess

near crypt
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It's here

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And it scares me

vale gyro
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Just don’t delete system32 and your fine

near crypt
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Ok

vale gyro
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Lmao

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Anyways, do the other steps I had mentioned above

vale gyro
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Press Enterafter you’ve done that

near crypt
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By directory of zdoom you mean like copy and paste the whole link thing?

vale gyro
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Yep

near crypt
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It's ok to have all the other wads and save stuff in here as well right?

vale gyro
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Yep

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Infact, you need it

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So put REKKR in there before you do it

near crypt
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Add rekkr?

vale gyro
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Yeah

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A lot of typos on my end, god

near crypt
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Well time to find wherever I put rekkr

vale gyro
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Ok, I just checked the wiki page

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I think what I’m doing may be worthless kinda

near crypt
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Found it

vale gyro
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At least on the wiki, it states REKKR uses Vanilla or GZDoom

near crypt
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Do I need the .deh or just the wad

vale gyro
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We can continue but well, may still not work

near crypt
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Wait vanilla?

vale gyro
vale gyro
near crypt
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So like the og game?

vale gyro
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Yeah

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But uh, tell me once you got that all sorted I guess

near crypt
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Makes sense sense my first time playing rekkr was on the newer console version

vale gyro
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Cuz it may still work with GZ doom

vale gyro
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But it does work with WADs like that

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So eh

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It’s not vanilla, btw

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Due to the changes it makes, but that’s besides the point

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Let’s just continue

near crypt
vale gyro
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ZDoom

near crypt
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Ohh

vale gyro
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Sorry

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It works natively with vanilla and GZ

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But may still work with ZDoom

near crypt
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Well I added rekkr and have the thing in cmd

vale gyro
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So if you got the CD command put in

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Press enter

near crypt
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Clicked enter

vale gyro
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And then type in zdoom -iwad doom2.wad -file rekkr.wad -deh rekkr.deh

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Press enter afterwards

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Should load up zdoom

near crypt
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Is there a space after -file

vale gyro
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Uh huh

near crypt
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K

vale gyro
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I typed everything how it should be typed

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So just copy and paste, replace file names if needed

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As I’m not sure how REKKR calls it’s files

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I know it’s .wad and .deh

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Just not sure if it uses REKKR as it’s file name for both files

near crypt
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We will see...

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Moment of truth

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The scariest button press of my life

vale gyro
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At most an exception will be thrown

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Nothings gonna break

near crypt
vale gyro
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Oh wtf

near crypt
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Nothing changed

vale gyro
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That’s cursed as hell

near crypt
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Yep

vale gyro
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Let me just.. comprehend that.. sight

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Try something like chocolate doom

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And see if anything changes

near crypt
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Wow only used crispy doom tbh

vale gyro
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Crispy would work

near crypt
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That was on a jail broken Wii u

vale gyro
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It’s just chocolate but better imo

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But yeah

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Download either of the two

near crypt
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Is chocolate doom on XP?

vale gyro
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should be

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Bur anyways

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Same deal as ZDoom with CMD

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Just with a different directory and it won’t be started with ZDoom

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Something like chocolate-doom instead

near crypt
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I downloaded it

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And holy hell

vale gyro
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Trying rekker with crispy real quick

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Hold on

near crypt
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So many files

vale gyro
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OK

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IM HAVING THE SAME ISSUE

near crypt
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Lol

vale gyro
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TRYING WITH DOOM1 INSTEAD

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DOOM1 works

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Use doom.wad instead of doom2.wad

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Don’t even need chocolate

near crypt
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Ok

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CMD?

vale gyro
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Yeah

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You need CMD to specify a iwad

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So just replace doom2 with doom

near crypt
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Oh wait I remember playing the unity port of doom one and it had rekkr

vale gyro
near crypt
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Ohh shiiiiiiiii

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It works

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Now I just need other sound to work and I have the full experience

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I only get music for some reason

near crypt
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First chance I get I'm gonna upgrade this PC and get Windows 10 (pirated of course)

vale gyro
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If your PC can’t handle 10

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Well, just stick with XP or use Linux maybe

vocal summit
near crypt
vocal summit
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no

near crypt
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Oh yeah I could just not activate

vocal summit
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i can't link to microsoft's website in the discord sever of a bethesda game

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Y

near crypt
vocal summit
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just google "windows 10 iso site:microsoft.com" and it'll give you the download

near crypt
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Alright

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Idk if this window XP pre installed PC can run it

vast reef
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just use linux dawg

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actually nvm might be too technical

vocal summit
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fedora is pretty easy to use if it's package manager wasn't a joke

near crypt
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I've never downloaded another OS before so idk

vale gyro
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For me Linux would be unusable

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As one of my most important pieces of software is a Windows only application and I doubt Proton would run it any kind of smooth

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Also the apparent problems with gaming

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Might work for A_Name here but just on my side it’d be just unusable

lime coral
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Hello, i cant play in doom with my ps4 controller help please

vale gyro
lime coral
vale gyro
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Oh

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Mb, hold on

vale gyro
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You are in the wrong channel

lime coral
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Ah sorry

vale gyro
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No problem, just letting you know

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You’d get better help on that channel anyways

split jewel
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So, there's a new source port in town?

near crypt
split jewel
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VKDoom

near crypt
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Oooo

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Never heard of it

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Looked it up and it's just modern GZ doom

halcyon willow
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it has live raytraced shadows

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much more than just a gzdoom update

near crypt
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So gzdoom but for modern computers

halcyon willow
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gzdoom still uses opengl

near crypt
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Not that excited because I'll never get to play it but cool ig

halcyon willow
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it's being developed for commercial games specifically disdain

near crypt
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I'll just stick to my barely working Zdoom till I upgrade my pc

halcyon willow
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(it'll still be free to use for doom modding as well though)

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ah

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fair enough lol

near crypt
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Zdoom has audio problems

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And I hate it with a passion

halcyon willow
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only if you make it have audio problems

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and there are plenty of other ports to use

near crypt
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On windows xp?

halcyon willow
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i don't know of any port that doesn't work on xp

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maybe somethign super old?

near crypt
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Gzdoom

split jewel
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No

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Just, no

near crypt
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Gzdoom says win10 and up

halcyon willow
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i've used it on xp

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was a while ago

near crypt
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This new info gives me an idea

halcyon willow
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gzdoom released in 2005

near crypt
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Random question...brutal doom is on Zdoom?

halcyon willow
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i know it works on zandronum

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which is closer to zdoom than gzdoom is

near crypt
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Is that a good port?

halcyon willow
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it's a multiplayer zdoom port

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does its job well

near crypt
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Alright

halcyon willow
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but it has less feature support than gzdoom

near crypt
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I have to use an Ethernet cable but maybe it will work

halcyon willow
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it's definitely more suited to older machines

near crypt
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Good

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But can it run brutal doom

halcyon willow
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yes

near crypt
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I have plans...big plans

split jewel
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Can that thing even run in Zandronum?

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Doesn't it use GZDoom specific stuff?

vast reef
vast reef
halcyon willow
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vkdoom being purely vulkan opens up a lot of efficiencies by not pinning itself to old tech

vast reef
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i see, thanks

calm cradle
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Friendly reminder that this server is not a +18 server. Circumvention of measures put in place to make sure this server is all ages appropriate is prohibited.

near crypt
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So is it possible to run gzdoom on windows xp

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All I want is freelook

vale gyro
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I would answer your question, but I don’t really have a machine with XP to test it

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You could do a test yourself

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(Most likely) won’t break anything

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But if that won’t work, Crispy Doom is one option

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Just gotta deal with the warped walls and stuff while using it because of software rendering

hexed escarp
vast reef
near crypt
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Dsda?

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Never heard of that one

halcyon willow
hexed escarp
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epic!

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real time GI or just baked?

halcyon willow
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both c:

hexed escarp
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cool!

halcyon willow
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it started off as baked lightmaps but we're implementing real time options as well

hexed escarp
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what method are you using?

halcyon willow
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(by we i mean i'm watching people much smarter than me do the work)

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not sure

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the technical stuff flies way above my head

calm cradle
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Bridge is just a meathead mapper

halcyon willow
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yes

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hur dur make many lines

hexed escarp
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im just trying to learn about as many different lighting techniques and rendering things as i can since im gonna try to write my own rendering engine in vulkan, i just started

calm cradle
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Baby steps young one

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I would recommend learning how to use OpenGL before diving into Vulkan. Even though OpenGL is becoming old tech, it’s still relevant and easier to get into than Vulkan

hexed escarp
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thats probably a good idea, but ive already started with vulkan and got the gpu to render a triangle

zenith berry
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With what’s been happening to Unity recently, Bethesda should do something to the classic DOOM re-releases, which uses it as a wrapper.

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Let’s move the classics over to the Kex engine, so that the Nightdive remaster anthology will be complete.

hexed escarp
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It should just use smthn lightweight like sdl2

vast reef
hexed escarp
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Ahh

near crypt
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Wonder what would happen if I put brutal doom in rekkr

bleak epoch
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Create a brutal rekkr

finite crag
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong
Is the doom classic shotgun a KS-23?

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I can't send photos here for some reason

narrow condor
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It's just a plastic toy gun, just as all other guns in the game.

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'TootsieToy Dakota Shotgun'

near crypt
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So I keep seeing stuff in Zdoom and a lot of wads saying something about multiplayer.
How would I do this

vast reef
finite crag
near crypt
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And brutal doom runs fine

vast reef
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doesn't mean mp will

near crypt
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I would still try it out for fun

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Then use another port if it sucks

fiery gale
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I somehow got Doom to run on a TI-84

hexed escarp
finite crag
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Oh yeah that could be the case

spice radish
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Has mod support and pretty sure it’s derived from ZDoom

near crypt
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That's good

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Is it low end like Zdoom?

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Like could I run it on a windows xp computer

vast reef
near crypt
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Well that's good

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Is the UI easy like Zdoom or is it painful to get into a server

gusty falcon
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It really does look real

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They had a working doom tiger handheld made for a few 60 second gag that is dedication to your craft

zenith berry
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Remember on how there was a DOOM II arcade machine, and similar to the AVGN one above, was actually created solely for a movie scene?

wanton sedge
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hi]

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@calm cradle hi

winged cedar
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Into Sandy's City is SO GOOD

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do I get to brag that I beat Plutonia on UV100 (including the secret levels) if I used save states constantly

hexed escarp
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I'm on map04 and it's difficult but I'll get thru it eventually

jolly spruce
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I just played classic doom on doom

hexed escarp
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I wish plutonia used its jungle theme for the whole campaign rather than just the first 3rd. It’s my favorite iwad aesthetic

vast reef
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truee

unreal pike
finite crag
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Got back into doom recently but this timer im paying attention to the map and secret

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I found the yellow keycard but cant find the yellow door

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I whatched the level playteought and still no yellow door

finite crag
blissful blade
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Don't play when it's half way installed.

remote cedar
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Opinions on TNT MAP20?

ionic sable
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trim marlin
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wait

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with this unity polemich , what will happen to dooms unity port?

spice radish
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Though I think that means that Bethesda (or id I’m not really sure) will have to pay the fee for any other versions of the game

vocal summit
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does anyone here have ZDL 3.0d?

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3.0d specifically because it was the last version relased by zdbiohazard

remote cedar
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To me that's all that counts

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since the WADs are usually what you'll need, then you just download a sourceport

lament pumice
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In GZDoom, do I set compatibility to Doom(strict) or Boom(strict) for most limit-removing maps?

vast reef
lament pumice
blissful blade
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Question, Brutal Doom is coop right? I set it up yesterday and there seems to be no multiplayer option for it.

remote cedar
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Brutal Doom isn't necessarily coop but I would expect it to work in multiplayer

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the problem is you have to get the right sourceport to play online

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when it comes to playing Brutal Doom online (and mods in general) I suggest Zandronum

spice radish
halcyon willow
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You need to set up a server or host a session to run something in coop

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But yes, brutal doom is coop compatible

near crypt
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What wads should I mix with brutal doom (not the forbidden wad though)

opaque agate
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italo doom >:3c

halcyon willow
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lol

halcyon willow
near crypt
finite crag
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Do the classic doom games have multiplayer achievements required for platinum trophies

halcyon willow
near crypt
ornate vortex
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I am currently still struggling to beat Fire and Ice

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It's been a month since i've uploaded any demos

spark raptor
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Some reason the latest version of GZDoom regularly freezes randomly while playing WADs. Sometimes it happens 10 seconds in, sometimes 5 minutes in, sometimes I can play fine for 30 minutes. Program will randomly lock up, and if I don’t force close it within 10 seconds or so, my entire system locks up and I have to force shutdown

remote cedar
halcyon willow
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that will not be caused by gzdoom

remote cedar
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I wonder if Windows 11 isn't the problem

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because it very well could be

zenith berry
vale gyro
spark raptor
finite crag
finite crag
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did you know there is a great mod called Prodgect Brutality 3.0

vast reef
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just play complex doom with gore at that point

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brutal doom platinum is better

finite crag
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ah

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ok thanks for the reminder i forgot that was there

finite crag
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i would deep fry every demon i can find if i could

autumn galleon
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Hopefully in time for Doom's 30th Anniversary, Bethesda will patch in online multiplayer to the PS4, Xbox One, and Switch versions of Doom 1 and 2.

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And maybe even add cross-play support across all these mentioned platforms.

finite crag
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lets hope they let me deep fry the demons

zenith berry
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Use a new engine wrapper or move to Kex.

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And while they’re at it, they better add the PlayStation versions of DOOM and Final DOOM.

autumn galleon
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I just want them to patch in online multiplayer with cross-play support to the PS4, Xbox One, and Switch versions of Doom 1 and 2.

remote cedar
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Finally finished TNT UV max

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I do not want to play that ever again

vocal summit
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gzdoom cannot cause that

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usually random freezes with gzdoom are because of intel igpu drivers

finite crag
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I never imagined Doom 1993 would still hold up today

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I’m actually having more fun with this game than I do some other games on my PlayStation

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I’m doing my first play through of 1993

urban trench
tulip garnet
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This might be me, but I hate the fact that I have to reload my weapons in brutal doom

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Everything else about it is really good, but I’m not a fan of having to briefly stop my destructive rampage every few seconds (ssg excluded)

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Makes sense for something like Doom 3, which has a slower pace and an emphasis on horror

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But when it comes to classic doom, reloading does not work for me in the slightest

hexed escarp
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This is why I don't play brutal doom

remote cedar
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once I'm done with Plutonia I'm moving onto 64

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after 64 I'm doing 2016 then Eternal

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then I'll play Doom 3 and Doom II's Master Levels

hexed escarp
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I don't mind difficulty or gore

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I just hate reloading in classic doom

gaunt cradle
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stuck on catacombs UV for doom 2 any tips for that level?

vast reef
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...

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hating it for a game mechanic is more valid than the other reasons you stated

remote cedar
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I also don't like Brutal Doom because it doesn't feel like Classic Doom at all

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I never said I played it

vast reef
remote cedar
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Some Doom mods but I haven't really tinkered with gameplay-changing mods

vast reef
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the "doesn't feel like classic doom" is a silly argument then

remote cedar
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I did play REKKR and it was fine enough

vast reef
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brutal doom is essentially a fangame

remote cedar
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Harmony too

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these do bring gameplay changes

vast reef
vale gyro
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nah, it’s the fact the reload is there to begin with

remote cedar
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I wouldn't really know

vale gyro
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Doom’s combat was not designed around reloading

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at all

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so adding it in just ruins the whole flow

vast reef
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yeah

vale gyro
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like I like Brutal Doom when it has the reload turned off

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as the flow is still there

vast reef
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having to take cover during the fight can be fun for some people

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honestly brutal doom is super overrated

vale gyro
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iirc, yeah

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if I recall

vast reef
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if i remember correctly

vale gyro
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interchangeable I guess

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means the same thing pretty much

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I rarely open up GZDoom and Brutal Doom even less

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so I can’t remember exactly

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I’m pretty much the person that you’ll see use Crispy almost 100% of the time

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and sometimes Woof if I really need it

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I just really like the colored blood..

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and at this point I can’t live without it

gusty falcon
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Honestly i don't mind the reload in doom or doom mods like at all because it's another point of interaction you get to have with the gun

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I loved those little interaction animations in 2016 whenever doom guy picked up a gun for the first time.

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Or animations in some other mods where the characters will pull the charging handle on a rifle or pump the shot gun if you press reload on a full magazine

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I honestly live for stuff like that

winged marsh
vast reef
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i don't mind reloads at all in wads where i can take cover

hexed escarp
vast reef
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and it essentially still conforms to more vanilla doom gameplay flow

halcyon willow
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The format of the mod has nothing to do with how extensive the changes are

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The most unhinged mods I've played are all dehacked or even bex patches

vast reef
modest galleon
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You guys think theyll patch ps4 doom 1 and 2 with online mp with doom anniversary 30th?

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Online coop i mean

remote cedar
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Doom Anniversary 30th? Did they plan something for that?

hexed escarp
autumn galleon
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It's gonna suck if we get nothing for Doom's 30th anniversary. Just like Mortal Kombat's 30th anniversary last year.

tulip garnet
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So it can always be worse

gritty arch
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Woof is the GOATed source port and is the best and most well-rounded source port for playing non-GZDoom WADs on account of its faithfulness to the original aesthetic CMV

remote spade
split jewel
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Yep, he's done his homework.

cinder jolt
jovial forge
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does zandronum or zdaemon legitimate here? i remember that i used to play those back when i was college less than a decade ago

vast reef
jovial forge
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i have both wads from two classic doom games i owned from xbox pc game pass

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so those engines are different from unity which has fewer choices and merely focused on solo

vast reef
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you cannot look up and down in unity

jovial forge
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also the target of enemy is linear

vast reef
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yes

jovial forge
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i noticed that mechanics when i gave those a try

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it's sorta closer to original 1993

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when my older brother played doom until completion way back 1999

remote cedar
unreal gorge
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unity doom 2 on ps4 doesn't give you a completion trophy if you go to the secret levelsdoomcry i got ripped off

vale gyro
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Rip

finite crag
wet flame
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Doom 1993 still holds up ngl

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Not graphically but gameplay

vast reef
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but doom 1993 still has amazing art

spice radish
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Can’t think of many upscale mods that look good

pale finch
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this too

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incredibly faithful asset remakes

spice radish
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And weird super dark blotches everywhere

pale finch
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d64ifier is not shiny at all

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upscale looks bad anyways

spice radish
#

The actual textures don’t look terrible without shaders

pale finch
spice radish
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Still would prefer the original art style

pale finch
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it's an optional addon

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that you can just not install

spice radish
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Ahhhh I see

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That makes sense

wet flame
vale gyro
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Just me, though

vast reef
vast reef
vale gyro
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Map remixes I’m all good with

pale finch
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hangar looks like a hangar now

dreamy grove
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Is there a way to play doom on a phone on a website

remote cedar
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on a phone, I'm pretty sure there are some mobile ports out there that allow for online play

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on a website, seems shady but possible...

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on a combination of the two? It really feels like the scuff alone would prevent you from doing anything

vale gyro
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Any websites that openly host it are just the shareware version and are usually extremely clunky

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Near impossible to play

rotund fjord
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Chucha

hexed escarp
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why is the 5th episode of scythe 2 called the earth jungle episode if the sky is red

vale gyro
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cuz yes

hexed escarp
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for scythe 2 map20, do i want to try to get the 4 cybers to infight with the other monsters that get released or just kill them myself

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im having a super frustrating time trying to get them to infight

static flare
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i have trouble downloading a doom 2 mod,which called the brutal doom ww2 weapon pack, does anyone know whats the problem?

wraith sentinel
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When is the Vietnam War addon

azure nimbus
restive jetty
vale gyro
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like trouble actually running it, it’s not fully downloading, or literally having trouble downloading it?

stray flint
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It happened to me with sigil on doom 1

amber blaze
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ive been playing this doom wad called skulltiverse

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very fun

finite crag
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Skulltiverse? Do tell

iron quail
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sort of dumb question but i just want to be sure

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if i were to use something like that one hud sprite from prototypes of doom in a fangame, would it be like. okay

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probably the wrong channel to ask this honestly

cosmic pagoda
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why have I never played plutonia with the midi pack

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its like a brand new experience

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map22 slaps hard

finite crag
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The reloading sound of the super shotgun is a great asmr for my ears

cosmic pagoda
remote cedar
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the gib sounds like something you'd hear in actual ASMR

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that reminds me, fun fact: one of the episodes in Castlevania Nocturne features the same stock sounds used by Zombiemen in Classic Doom

bold socket
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I have been trying to beat doom 1 for like 2 months now and i've been stuck in episode 2 for quite a while, any tips? (I play on ultra-violence and I don't really feel like lowering the diff)

finite crag
bold socket
finite crag
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No worries

bold socket
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It's kinda funny how I'm a semi god in eternal and in classical doom I suffer alot lmao

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The skill doesn't carry on

finite crag
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Nothing wrong with that. I've had more time on the originals than the newer Doom games. But growing up with DosGames did make a difference

hexed escarp
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being good at one definitely does not mean being good at the other

finite crag
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True

sudden forge
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hi

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is there any way to play doom classic online

finite crag
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Now this is from the Doom Wiki page, for setting up Multiplayer/Online for Classic Doom -- https://doomwiki.org/wiki/How_to_play_Doom_online_multiplayer
(If that is what you asked for)

DoomWiki.org
How to play Doom online multiplayer

Doom is one of the first games that popularized online multiplayer. It comes with native cooperative and deathmatch support, while modern source ports add new gameplay elements and modes such as Capture the Flag and Survival. The three most commonly used multiplayer source ports are Zandronum, Odamex and ZDaemon.

halcyon willow
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easiest way is to get Doom Seeker or Doom Explorer to find servers to join. Zandronum is the most commonly used source port

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you can also host your own servers for free via TSPG

finite crag
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Good advice Bridgeburner

fierce mason
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Does somebody know how to play doom (1993) online on ps4?

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Whit two different ps4

finite crag
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Having a look at Doom for PS4 and it seems to be only Local support (splitscreen on 1 console), from what the DoomWorld Forums says. Co-op and Deathmatch modes

fierce mason
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So share play doesnt work at all?

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Cuz i need to do the trophyes

finite crag
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Let me have a look. Give me a few

fierce mason
finite crag
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Sure thing. So seeing the trophies on Doom 1993 - Rookie (25 Kills on Deathmatch) // Showstopper (100 kills on Deathmatch) // Not so Bad (Nightmare Co-Op) -- I would say that would be for local MP since I only played the Xbox version and now PC

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Let me see how to get those trophies and see what is involved

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Reading the guide -- if 2 players were on 1 console it can be done with "Not so bad". Someone who uploaded a guide to get this trophy was they played with 2 controllers and rushed through the levels. But given the difficulty, it isn't easy to get. Only for local players, not shareplay

fierce mason
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Alr

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Ty

finite crag
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Sure thing

sudden forge
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hi do you know where i can download doom classic fan remake ?

finite crag
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doom 2 is now 29 years old!

cosmic pagoda
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episode 2 benefits a lot from secret hunting

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also unpopular opinion: episode 2 best of doom 1, due to e2m4 and e2m6

void hemlock
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Episode 2 imo can be a bit confusing

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But with enough pathfinding knowledge you can get around it

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However episode 3 and 4? I still have trouble with them

rare depot
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Does doom III show how Doomguy ended up in hell or is that a gap in the lore

void hemlock
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Are you on the right chat?

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If you’re talking about Doom 3 I think it should be in #doom-3

rare depot
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I thought this one encompassed all 3 classic doom games and the other channels were for more specific stuff related to but not including the individual games

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Hence why there's no channel for DOOM II

strong plaza
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Happy Birthday DOOM II!!!

void hemlock
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Doom 3 is for all of those version

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original, BFG, and VR

void hemlock
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And other WADs and mods too

jovial agate
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No such thing as doom 3 vr

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There is only a doom vr

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Is final Doom included in this chat or is it not a official game

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I always believed that final Doom (tnt evolution and plutonia experiment were official

halcyon willow
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Final doom is an official iwad

vast reef
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which one

vast reef
jovial agate
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No

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And if so not official

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Had to be published and made by id software and Bethesda

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And as I said there was a vr version for the game doom 2016

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Called vfr

vast reef
vast reef
vast reef
jovial agate
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Blud

vast reef
jovial agate
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I'm confused

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If this was a game back then

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Why wasn't heard of around the world

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Cuz I never heard of it

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I've only heard of doom 3

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Resurrection of evil

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The the lost mission

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(all included in doom 3 bfg edition

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Wow they actually did

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Mb

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Who wants to 1v1 me tomorrow doom 1

sudden forge
unreal gorge
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i am once again trying to finish final doom and i am once again wondering why i am trying to finish final doom

hexed escarp
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why do so many really hard wads names start with s

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scythe 2, sunlust, sunder, stardate, speed of doom

finite crag
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i'm glad classic doom is playable on mobile devices.

unreal gorge
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it won't let me purchase it on an s23 and i don't know why

lament pumice
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I'm eight maps into Arrival and it's starting to feel like a slog, is this how the rest of the maps are? Or does it get better?

unborn robin
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is there a mod which removes the invisible ceiling in any doom game

halcyon willow
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What invisible ceiling?

stark acorn
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e1m7 is still awesome

sudden forge
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doom 3 VR !!

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im sure i can't do that im playing without vr and its so much scary

sudden forge
void hemlock
blissful timber
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When did they add the crosshair to Doom?

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Just the enhanced version?

void hemlock
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I think in Doom 3?

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Well in the series, but if you’re talking about the classics then yeah the “enhanced” version

blissful timber
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Gotcha, and yeah, I’m referencing the classics

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It’s odd.

white vortex
hasty dew
junior geyser
bronze cloud
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Joking aside, it would have been nice if the Doom Guy/slayer had been as a character and not as a costume

junior geyser
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Yeah

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I have the costume

bronze cloud
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Me too

spice radish
bronze cloud
junior geyser
remote cedar
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if Doom Slayer was in Smash I'd imagine he'd be one of those characters that aren't very mobile and have a lot of endlag on their moves, but hits like a truck and the attacks come out pretty damn fast

vast reef
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doomguy was always pretty damn mobile though

remote cedar
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Yes, but he rarely was mobile vertically

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And I believe that should impact his recovery a bit

vast reef
pale finch
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does doomsday support pbr materials?

junior geyser
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idk

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I don’t know how modding works

remote cedar
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Damn I gotta say

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so far Plutonia feels like less of a drag than TNT Evilution

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I almost cleared MAP06 but died at the last second

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and I kinda wanna attempt it again but that's gonna have to wait another day

narrow condor
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Yeah, Plutonia is much tighter than TNT with its focus on combat puzzle gameplay over worldbuilding and environmental story telling.

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There are some exceptions in the latter half of the mappack where maps go on for too long to be fun, but most of the maps keep you on your toes throughout the map.

finite crag
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so, I've been playing modded doom these past couple of weeks, and I've played through all of doom 1 and doom 2 with brutal doom recently. did a ton of other partial playthroughs with other gameplay and monster mods, from Astartes on doom 1 maps of chaos to a survival horror type thing with nightmare logic weapons and project malice monsters. I have a ton of content to go through, including wads and mods.
but I want to play more vanilla doom, because I never actually finished the mainilne games without any mods. I already got my sourceports set up (GZDoom for mods, DSDA for vanilla map packs) and I'm thinking: what should I play now? I realized while I can do most mods on UV difficulty, I cannot say the same for vanilla, even if vanilla monsters are technically weaker.
So, should I go back and replay Doom 1+2 on vanilla UV, or pick one of the additional official content packs to continue playing? I'm currently 60% of the way through Master Levels with mods, and I haven't played Final Doom, No Rest For the Living or Sigil yet. I can probably do the first episode of doom 1 with my eyes closed at this point, but the rest of the game isn't as firm in my memory.

vast reef
unreal gorge
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play no rest for the Living, it's absolutely superb

finite crag
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I am NOT looking forward to Plutonia, but it will force me to git gud or die (a lot) trying

vast reef
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it just depends on if you want to beat og doom on vanilla, personally it depends on what mods you beat it with

vast reef
finite crag
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this is mostly because there's a ton of modern wads that I want to play, but I need to "catch up" especially since I saw that the difficulty standards have risen significantly in the past 30 years

narrow condor
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You don't need to play it on UV. Just play at whatever difficulty you feel comfortable with.

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There are plenty of mappacks being made today across the difficulty spectrum and most of them implement all three difficulties.

finite crag
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thing is, I enjoy playing the game on UV, at least modded. It feels fun and challenging and decently balanced well for most mods (even if the guns are OP, the monsters still kill me quick if I'm not fast)

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but I saw that playing vanilla UV on most new maps is a really ball-busting experience

narrow condor
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What the difficulty level feels like depends a lot on the mappack, sometimes even changing map by map in a pack.

finite crag
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hell, I tried playing Ad Mortem the other day and on HMP I was still dying

narrow condor
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What feels fun in one can feel boring in another wad and frustrating in yet another.

finite crag
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yeah, the nature of player-driven content, one mapmaker's easy is not the same as another

narrow condor
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Exactly, yeah.

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If you feel like you need to finish the original iwads (which I personally recommend) but don't think it'd be fun to play them on UV, I'd suggest playing them on HMP just to get through them.

finite crag
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mhm, I see. The way someone else told me, they consider UV more of a NG+ difficulty, after you already know where things are on the map and can plan for traps

narrow condor
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And then you can enjoy modern maps at any difficulty level you like.

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I'd say that also depends on the wad. Some mapmakers nowadays focus on UV first and expect you to play it before lowering the difficulty if it gets too annoying. But I think that makes sense for the original wads, especially considering most people playing the originals don't have existing Doom experience.

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Plutonia will feel that way even at lower difficulties, with so many mean traps that you'll fall for on the first try, and try again with a new plan to tackle them.

vast reef
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sorry that double sent

finite crag
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np
yeah, I heard some other wads tried to make plutonia look easy

mellow matrix
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modern wads wipe the floor with plutonia

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but Plutonia is maybe the most important wad in your "career" in terms of introducing you to the idea of learning through death and knowing how to spot common tricks and traps

finite crag
#

I'm looking forward to many wads after those, there's some that are apparently classics, like Scythe, eviternity, bloodline, deathless, uac ultra, and some others I downloaded. I downloaded a lot of stuff over these past weeks.

vast reef
finite crag
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okay so here's what I'm gonna do: I'm gonna finish the brutal doom run through of master levels (and quit if some of the puzzle maps annoy me too much) and then start another run of doom 1 vanilla on UV, but starting from chapter 2, I've played enough of chapter 1
I wish you could start doom 2 from the middle of the game like taht too

vast reef
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pistol start 🙂

finite crag
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I mean, every level was technically designed to be playable as a pistol start, right? 🙃

vast reef
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yea lol

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gonna be a tad bit harder but it's pretty doable honestly

finite crag
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git gud with the pistol

mellow matrix
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please don't

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just run around until you find a shotgun

spark torrent
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<@&162901871168585728> that uhhhhh

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hmm

calm cradle
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👍

spark torrent
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I'll give it props for quality.

amber blaze
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checking out wads called Doom/Doom 2: The Way We Remember It. it’s basically doom completely recreated from memory

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pretty neat so far

vale gyro
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Might try it out myself if I ever want to

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Want to finish doom 2 before I do, though (yes I still haven’t)

amber blaze
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gotcha. if it makes you feel any better i didn’t beat doom 1 until like yesterday.

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i just kinda liked doom 2 much more

echo tartan
#

is anyone here making classic doom music and can tell me what's the bass sample from doom 2's intermission called?

zenith berry
#

Slap bass?

halcyon willow
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it's just a midi

undone venture
#

How get doom 1993

finite crag
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buy it on Steam, GoG or your console of choice

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then take the .wad files and run them on your source port of choice

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anyway, I just finished the 3 original chapters of doom 1 unmodded on UV, had to do some things I never needed to do with mods, like throwing hands with an entire hallway of pinkies, corner prefiring the BFG and just generally being both more cautious and much more aggressive. explored maps a lot more, that I barely remembered how I beat last time.
Next, probably tomorrow, Thy Flesh Consumed. I remember E4M3 being my favorite map in all of the first game, let's see if that opinion holds

hexed escarp
halcyon willow
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a classic

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map 26 iirc

hexed escarp
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cool thx

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it looks epic

halcyon willow
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one of my all time favourites

hexed escarp
#

ig i gotta play speed of doom now

halcyon willow
#

good entry level slaughter

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yes

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should be on everyone's list to play c:

hexed escarp
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there are so many wads that i want to play but am not good enough to play

halcyon willow
#

SoD is about as tough as scythe 2

hexed escarp
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which part of scythe 2

halcyon willow
#

but it has difficulty settings

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similar difficulty curve

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starts easy and ramps up

hexed escarp
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im playing scythe 2 on uv rn

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im in the middle of map22, so like right before it gets slaughtery

halcyon willow
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yeah you're about to hit the spicy stuff

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temple of gaia is one of my favourite maps

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map 23 iirc?

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if you can get through scythe 2 on UV you should be fine for speed of doom

hexed escarp
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i think im gonna start struggling very soon

halcyon willow
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lol

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you've already met mr x

hexed escarp
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yeah

halcyon willow
#

mean boi

hexed escarp
#

sunlust and sunder look so incredibly epic but they are way beyond my skill level

halcyon willow
#

sunder gets very difficult

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good one to go through with cheats lol

hexed escarp
#

my sorta like end goal for doom is to be able to play new sunder

halcyon willow
#

sunlust has difficulty balancing though. ribbiks puts a lot of work into that

hexed escarp
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with saves, but still

halcyon willow
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yeah like 3 people in history can deathless the new sunder maps

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zeromaster is one

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someone else was smashing out UVmax runs though

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ancalagon would be able to do it

finite crag
#

And this is why I'm on my git gud with no mods journey

halcyon willow
#

sunder was made me get a lot better at doom

hexed escarp
#

if he ever finishes the set, i am at the same time terrified and super excited to see what map30 will look like

halcyon willow
#

i volunteered to help test the new sunder maps

finite crag
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Of course I could just keep playing everything with mods but I want to at least know what is the intended experience with those wads

halcyon willow
#

it was ... rough lol

halcyon willow
#

22?

hexed escarp
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21 isnt released yet i dont think but ive seen screenshots of it looking pretty done

halcyon willow
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yeah that's the white and pink one iirc

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he's using lots of makkon textures now

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sunder went from very vanilla stock textures, to otex, and now into makkon style

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it's cool seeing the different themes

hexed escarp
#

each episode(ish) has its own texture set lmao

halcyon willow
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pretty much

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and now, he can make his own textures

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he's been doing that for a couple HFS games so he's gotten damn good with substance designer

#

i now fear for our sanity

hexed escarp
#

i wonder how many enemies map30 is gonna have if he ever gets there

halcyon willow
#

my bet is it will be a very weird and very difficult boss fight

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or one (1) zombie man

hexed escarp
#

i wish there were more doom mods with good final bosses

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like i respect maps that just have big slaughter fests for map30 but i also really like custom bosses

halcyon willow
#

custom bosses are really hard to do well

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but i agree, i would like to see more

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break//point has a top notch final boss fight

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guardsoul is very good at coding combat mechanics (he made that map)

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elementalism has awesome bosses

hexed escarp
#

i had an cool idea for a final boss map that i may try making if i ever end up having a mapset for it to go with

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but currently i just have a map01

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and its not even done yet lol

halcyon willow
#

mood lol

hexed escarp
#

maybe il just make it a short thing where its like a 5 map episode where the 5th is a final boss like a scythe2/eviternity style episode but just one episode

halcyon willow
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it is generally better to start with something small

hexed escarp
halcyon willow
#

Hell ™️

hexed escarp
#

its how it has all of the red pillars

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that look just like the ones in e3 sky

finite crag
#

oof ouch owie my face in Perfect Hatred

pale finch
#

heyy sigil 2's near finished

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he's doing e6m1 now (finish your first map last

finite crag
#

Romero was making a Sigil 2?

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cool

strange oar
#

So does this mean DOOM is going to have 6 Episodes?

halcyon willow
#

should be released on doom's birthday this year

strange oar
#

Man. Does that mean that DOOM will technically be the longest mainline game?

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Actually, I still think Final Doom is longer. Both Plutonia Experiment and TNT Evilution are 32 Maps each, right?

halcyon willow
#

yeah but they're separate entities

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just bundled together for sale

strange oar
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I mean, I count them as one big experience.

halcyon willow
#

it's 2 individual stories and they were developed independently of each other

strange oar
#

Yeah, that's true.

halcyon willow
#

team TNT for evilution and the Casali bros for plutonia

strange oar
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I know.

halcyon willow
#

dario did submit maps for evilution but they were rejected for being too hard lol

strange oar
#

Did they ever release them?

halcyon willow
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iirc they ended up in plutonia

strange oar
#

Huh.

halcyon willow
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i'd have to go back and relisten to my interview with him to check

strange oar
#

I wonder if I should make a map pack, it shouldn't be too difficult.

vale gyro
strange oar
#

I literally just set up Ultimate Doom Builder lol.

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I'll stick with something simple, to learn how everything works.

halcyon willow
#

UDB is very easy to get into

strange oar
#

I ain't about to try to make a megawad of the scale of SIGIL or anything.

strange oar
#

So, does anyone host multiplayer for the Classic Doom games in the year 2023?

void hemlock
#

I did for a co-op livestream over a month ago

halcyon willow
#

been hosting regular weekly sessions for 3? years now

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coop and deathmatch

strange oar
#

Huh, neat.

halcyon willow
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there's usually a bunch of servers going at any one time

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use doomseeker or doom explorer to search for them

strange oar
#

Got it.

hexed escarp
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So use that

strange oar
hexed escarp
#

Cool

finite crag
#

So I had dekudeals open for the past few days, hoping that the games would go on sale soon and would you look at that, now I also have Doom on my Switch. I expected it to have more addons to download, however... Very few of the classics of the community.
Also, are Specters supposed to be actually really invisible? I really can't see them as well as I normally see them on PC, and I don't think it's just because of the smaller screen

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Wish I could put all the addons I have on my phone into the Switch, but oh well

vast reef
#

they're more visible with hardware rendering

chilly heart
#

Played with whoever joined

#

Anyway I’m planning to move my doom wads to my 3DS

finite crag
#

I did have a similar "problem" trying out Sigil with CrispyDoom, the Specter in the very first room was impossible to spot

vast reef
#

yeah hardware rendering makes them much easier to spot compared to software

finite crag
#

well I guess that's just intended, then.

finite crag
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Hey, does anyone know a way i can get brutal doom as an iwad file? or a copy of doom 1993 with brutal doom on it? i've been pretty bored in school recently and have been filling my time by playing doom 1993 on Wad Commander. my favourite mod is brutal doom, but i cant get pk3 files to run in wad commander.

hexed escarp
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the problem here is that wad commander is based on the source port chocolate doom which emulates the vanilla executable and was not made to play zdoom based mods

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brutal doom was made specifically to be played with the gzdoom engine and is not compatible with the base game itself

finite crag
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this is aids mate

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its so hard

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i just wanna play the shooty kill demon game 😭

hexed escarp
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the version of the game you are playing physically wasnt designed to play the thing you are trying to make it play

finite crag
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i guess

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but my school restrections are DEADLY

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like i have 2 notebooks full of notes on how to remove them

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ive done litterally everything

hexed escarp
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Lmao

halcyon willow
halcyon willow
halcyon willow
remote cedar
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Man Plutonia MAP09 is hard as balls

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any tips for clearing that last room with the chaingunner spam?

sharp coral
remote cedar
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Yeah

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Imps too

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Pool of sludge that you can't escape from

sharp coral
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I spam the chains with rockets then run around the ring rocketing as much as I can, then try to chill in either of the boxes on the sides

remote cedar
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Hmm yeah

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It could be dangerous though, I need to get closer to them in order for the autoaim to kick in while there are imps everywhere which could make the rockets hurt me in the process

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Would you say plasma rifle is a viable option there?

sharp coral
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Yea, at least for the imps and chaingunners. I don't remember how much ammo you get on the map so you might run out if you try to use it for the revs and mancubi tho

remote cedar
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Yeah I think rockets or ssg might do the trick for them

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Thanks for the help man

sharp coral
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Yea no problem

abstract valve
strange oar
finite crag
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I still have to play that one.

vast reef
stable crypt
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Anyone love Classic Doom, Doom 1 and Doom 2?

vast reef
stable crypt
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Nice

finite crag
abstract valve
finite crag
# abstract valve It is a joke my friend

oh, sorry if my comment came across as rude. Im neurodivergent and have issues sometimes being able to identify if things are jokes or not and the tone of the things i send sometimes

abstract valve
zenith berry
vast reef
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the guy you're responding to makes less sense tbh

strange oar
zenith berry
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Idk, I did something and it became a rabbit hole of terrifying things?

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Like I saw rooms that aren’t supposed to be there.

unreal gorge
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are you telling me your house doesn't shift and change every time you go home

zenith berry
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Renovation?

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However in the map’s case it seems to be more than just a renovation. There are physically impossible areas.

spice radish
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Or when using the noclip cheat it sends you to the Backrooms. I like that little touch it’s neat

zenith berry
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You can also reach the backrooms without even noclipping.

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In the small sized brutalist house, rocket jump your way to the exit area and step on the teleporter.

finite crag
pale finch
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was the author dead all along?

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who shared the map?

strange oar
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What are you going on about? The author just created a map of his friend's house as a tribute to them. What's with all this nonsense about "backrooms" and "brutalist" stuff?

pale finch
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well the dum dums left a pk3 file and personal journal

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freaky stuff.

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it has frickin floor on floor

strange oar
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It's just a map of someone's house... are you alright?

pale finch
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yeah but it got some update

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the author accidentally shared a folder which had some nightmare version of the map

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along with a personal journal

strange oar
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There's no such thing!

halcyon willow
finite crag
pale finch
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i think you played the .WAD

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chocolate doom user?

strange oar
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I stand by my case: Someone made a map of their late friend's house in memory of them. There is no "backrooms", there is no "brutalist house", and there is no "physically impossible areas!"

finite crag
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(hes doin a lil trolling)

pale finch
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i know and i am reverse trolling)

finite crag
strange oar
rare depot
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Goddamn, I'm trying to 100% all the levels on UV and I'm stuck trying to find a singular last pickup on E1M6

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I've searched the entire map multiple times over now

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Omfg I found it, it was a stupid armor pickup hiding in one of the hallways in the bottom right