doom-eternal

[frank drum]

no like sekiro

[young mango]

cope is when you can disable a feature instead of complaining about it apparently

like personally if the feature doesn’t effect me but aids other people then I see no reason to bash it

[frank drum]

if the person just complain about the feature just for existing yeah

maybe they could added a popup asking you if you want to play with tutorials before a new game, people also cope with the fact that the game has too many options.

[young mango]

I mean i guess? elaborate by too many options, I do not know what facet you are referring to when you said that

[frank drum]

setting options

[young mango]

that is an odd complaint to have

[frank drum]

There are people who complain about all the things you can set in this game. I remember a guy who was complaining about the icons around the crosshair. Then they started saying that doom is all about being straightforward and some shit, so yeah, it's just coping.

[fringe torrent]

The icons bug me a lot too but you can disable them

[frank drum]

people nitpich this game too much man, thats why i said it is just cope

[old wren]

it wont let me play. not only this game but other games as well. it gives me a messege to turn off flight mode. this is my second switch, my primary switch oled is sitting in the dock. i dont like playing mobile with him.

[young mango]

ah I see, you might want to be clearer with your phrasing next time because I was mislead to interpret this as if you were on the side of “nitpicking” and that those who opposed were “coping”

[frank drum]

yeah, i was taking about the people who complain about nonsenses, they just cope

[real plaza]

@austere bronze, what's the best praetor suit upgrade in eternal to you?

I need to know from an experienced person.

[austere bronze]

easily hot swapper

and second is faster dashes

[real plaza]

ok

[young mango]

that is good

[frank drum]

man i hate pinkies so bad

[young mango]

why?

[glossy warren]

Hit them from behind

[frank drum]

Guy is so annoying

Remote detonation is my best friend against these idiots

[dense finch]

any latin or spanish want explain me the fast state im so dumb

[tulip slate]

hey hello

i need help with a vulcan issue starting the game

i dont know what to do anymore

can someone whith knowledge dm me?

[dense finch]

the error?

[tulip slate]

"doom eternal crash encountered during vulkan initialization validation"

[dense finch]

you search the error in google or something?

[tulip slate]

"Tuvo lugar un cierre inesperado durante la validacion del inicio de vulvan"

[ornate nexus]

Yo bro 👹

[dense finch]

te mande soli

[ornate nexus]

M acabo d instalar el juego y no se una mrd

xD

[dense finch]

JSJSJ

[violet zealot]

it'd help if you also gave out what OS and hardware you're running

[ornate nexus]

Wtf bro

Me falta x descargar 78 gb mas d juego 💀💀💀

[idle cove]

Master level saving PLEASE exist...

:(

[frank drum]

Que no entiendes? Es solo cambiar de arma mientras disparas con un arma automatica

[cunning spade]

wtf alguien hablando español epico.

[copper arch]

Sup everyone

[timber mesa]

Para que salga lo mejor posible, necesitas adquirir la runa de cambio de arma rapido

Vas a agarrar un arma como el lanzacohetes, y disparar (cuando dispares, vas a tener el click apretado aun) y luego cambiar de arma con alguna de las teclas

y luego, volver a cambiar al lanzacohetes

todo mientras aun mantenes el click apretado

[cunning spade]

well, i have a cuestion. in the nekravol level part 1, at the start theres a river of lava with a giant skull of a cyberdemon of DOOM 2016

has someone faund it yet?

[timber mesa]

im so stuck on cultist base 'cause of Ultra Nightmare that i dont remember

[cunning spade]

lo q pasa es que me parece q no entienden español

estaria bueno un canal de español

solo digo :/

[cunning spade]

yeah that part is hard

[timber mesa]

nah tranca que hablo principalmente español

[cunning spade]

a bue

yo escribiendo aca ingles como un bobina

yo me pase UN haciendo alt+f4 cuando estaba a punto de morir

si no era re dificil

mal

tipo siempre moria en cultist base solo creo q me lo pase una vez

[dense finch]

por q despues se me va

osea la bala d del cohete dale rapido y dsp sale normal

ademas eso de pegarle y q salga pero rapidisimo

necesito un gordo doom eternal q me enseñe

[cunning spade]

t recomiendo q busques metalico DOOM eternal mecanicas avanzadas

ese chabon sabe

@dense finch

[dense finch]

SII

lo estoy viendo hace rato pero igual siento q erro varias cosas

[azure oriole]

[azure oriole]

It’s not required lol

Even with all that tutorial people still complain because they refuse to do what the game tells them to do

[cunning spade]

whut?

[frank drum]

Sometimes i feel a little dumb using chainsaw when maykr drones are around

[young mango]

I cant believe I’ve been using this dumb dash boost alternative to the convention hug for the longest time

[young mango]

disadvantages of dash boost alternative
-slower
-arguably harder execution
-if skip is failed after the checkpoint load, have to do another arena you wouldn’t have had to have done otherwise if skip was completed successfully

[azure oriole]

Dash boost?

[young mango]

are you inquiring on what a dash boost is or have you never heard of that variation of the convention hug

[azure oriole]

Neither

[young mango]

could you elaborate?

[azure oriole]

Idk what a dash boost is

Unnecessarily complicating things bruh

[young mango]

I had asked you if you were inquiring on what a dash boost is, which you were upon having given me more context

but yes a dash boost is basically just silly thing where you dash into specific geometry and it redirects your dash momentum upwards

and in the convention hug, this is a suboptimal method as opposed to the meta strat of just yeethooking into some geometry and trimping off of it

[dense finch]

its more normal than you tkink.....

[young mango]

I had personally pulled off the yeethook variation earlier, tried it for a bit until I got a recording of an attempt i was satisfied with https://youtu.be/7QDvdCsMGUw?si=vbVJh-hoGEG-vysk

[dense finch]

the most normal any% speedrun

[little folio]

First time playing a master level today super gore nest

It's that archvile I can't seem to get

[high sorrel]

Hello everyone 👋

[shadow tendon]

hellooo

[uncut marlin]

The one or should i say the ones in the last arena before the escape sequence?

[azure oriole]

Jesus christ 🤓

[young mango]

?

youre an odd critter

[strange gale]

this isn't that complicated though?

dash into rock, rock send you up

[little folio]

It's before that, he stands alone on a platform on a parkour section

[austere bronze]

Throw an ice grenade and then shoot him, he'll die very fast

[little folio]

I'll try to attempt it some time later 👍

[idle cove]

Hello! Your avatar is adorable. C:

[high sorrel]

Thank you. Your avatar is also pretty nice. 😊

[idle cove]

:)

[shut wing]

guys, how can I get a zombie skin on doomguy from slayers club? or is it a limited skin that you can't get anymore?

[royal arch]

i joined slayers club and didn’t get it

may or may not be a bug

[fringe torrent]

Not a bug, you have to ask support for it now. Slayers Club was reworked a while ago and now doesn't give the skin

[shut wing]

tnx

[tough night]

Can someone help me complete battlemode achievments on steam rn?

[azure oriole]

Nah go do ultra nightmare

[dusty mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-doomguy-hello-chat-unicorn-doom-guy-hello-chat-doom-slayer-doom-guy-walking-brandon-barmby-gif-14387289930759898858

[austere bronze]

Hi

[dusty mauve]

there are people here who went through Doom on ultra nightmare?

[lament bluff]

Which campaign?

[dusty mauve]

do you mean Doom Eternal or Doom (2016)?

[lament bluff]

No I meant doom eternal or tag 1 or tag 2

[glossy warren]

Yes, both doom 2016 and eternal

[lament bluff]

I never got around to doing 2016, but I did all of the campaigns (and master levels) of eternal and both DLCs (excluding cultist base, don’t have the rip and tear pack)

[austere bronze]

Yes, many

[dusty mauve]

Wow

I'm just in a nightmare...

[dusty mauve]

Doom eternal

[austere bronze]

Nightmare isn't bad

I regret even doing some master levels on UN, it was a waste o my time

[dusty mauve]

don't get upset over trifles

[lament bluff]

So real. Taras Nabad and World Spear UN were painful.

Tbh, I almost gave up on world spear because of how long it was.

[austere bronze]

Yeah, they're quite hard to UN

[lament bluff]

Taras Nabad is hard, World spear is long

[austere bronze]

I don't think I've ever done a full UN run of world spear

Think I've done 1 full playthrough of it on nightmare

[austere bronze]

World Spear is hard and long, but Taras Nabad has way higher difficulty peaks

[lament bluff]

It’s painful. I got it on my third attempt, but it was painful.

[austere bronze]

Yeah i dont think im ever going to complete that master level again lol

[lament bluff]

I only did it because I’m trying to 100% the game

Which sadly includes battlemode…

But I’m trying to harass my friends to do private lobby to help me because I’m tired of waiting for 10 minutes just for someone to quit because my doom level is higher than theirs

[azure oriole]

Congrats you a gamer now

[royal arch]

its hell

the gold skin is not worth the effort

lest you are a game completionist

[lament bluff]

I like the tag2 UN skin

[austere bronze]

No skin is worth the pain of having to go through UN for any campaign lol (for me)

[dusty mauve]

did you receive it?

[lament bluff]

Only issue is none of that skill transferred to battlemode because I took a break from doom to play other games and then came back and that’s after I did all my UN runs

[azure oriole]

Why would you play battlemode

[lament bluff]

To 100% the game

Get all the achievements and milestones and everything

That’s the only reason.

[azure oriole]

[lament bluff]

Seriously, I don’t wanna do it, but I have to.

[austere bronze]

It's not worth it, just have fun with the game

[fringe torrent]

Because some people like it, including me

[lament bluff]

It’s okay in my opinion but the queue sucks because the second you join a match, someone inevitably leaves

[fringe torrent]

Never had that issue

[austere bronze]

Don't do it then

[azure oriole]

Loved and hated equally

[austere bronze]

Have fun with the game and learn its combat on a deeper level

[lament bluff]

I get that, but I love to complete games and I love the doom franchise so I’m trying to 100% all of them (I’m not touching 2016’s multiplayer and I’m not replaying doom 3 to get the achievements through the BFG edition)

[lament bluff]

This is my fun. Is 100%ing the game

[austere bronze]

"Seriously, I don't want to do it"

Oh well, you do what you want

[royal arch]

no i never beat ultra nightmare’s

[young mango]

also a weird thing for them to try to pull that nerd emoji stuff when they quite literally asked, it’s not like I just went on a completely unprompted explanation

[glass trellis]

Taras Nabad Is one of the harder one, yet

?

[fringe torrent]

The guy basically admitted to baiting a few days ago, I think it's best to just collectively ignore

[idle cove]

ignores intensely

[serene stone]

🤓

[azure oriole]

Master level is

[azure oriole]

How is basic communication lacking bruh
You shouldn’t be making exactly what you’re asking clear all the damn time

[young mango]

there’s no way I could possibly speculate any reasoning so I’ll just ask point blank, why act like this?

[tough night]

I did when i pirated game

I just purchased a game

[quasi moon]

you scoundrell

[tough night]

and want achievments

[tough night]

henderpflip

[young mango]

the funny part is it’s so obvious when somebodies playing a pirated copy if you’ve ever seen it, because more often than not what I’ve seen is the pirated version people use is almost always 1.0, which unless you’re amd or sumshit there’s going to be light flickering like crazy, as well as the fact that there is no bind icons above the blood punch and dash, and for some reason the person who created that crack removed the French language from the game so on occasion you’ll see people pop into the doom modding discord basically exposing themselves as having pirated the game because it gives you an error in the modinjector if you don’t have that

[compact temple]

can you use the unmaykr in horde mode without any bonus loss? or does that just apply to the bfg

nvm

no unmaykr

[serene stone]

AnomeQ is a mutual, also satire of that other guy

[azure oriole]

Why would you use it

[compact temple]

Trying to get slayer tier

But no BFG bonus gives a lot so I thought wait what if I used the Unmaykr until I realized it’s not in horde mode

[azure oriole]

“What does it take to KILL you?”

It gives 50k for not using the bfg lol

That’s overrated

[surreal oriole]

top 50 in horde mode nightmare 💪💪

[woven peak]

Ultra nightmare done!

Lets gooooo

[teal moon]

you're a fucking slayer for real

(Not to offend)

[woven peak]

Im doing what to a slayer now

[teal moon]

I'm missing a dollar for doom ancient gods part 2😔

[compact temple]

im done with eternal for now whew

i got 133/133 milestones and slayer tier on horde mode

i'll come back when theres more fun mods to try out

for now onto doom + doom 2, then doom 3

[azure oriole]

What about taxes

[azure oriole]

Good now try some master campaign mods

Some of them are actually fun and not ridiculously unbalanced

[teal moon]

fuck, then I'm missing 3 dollars

💀

[azure oriole]

Keep working

[compact temple]

Yeah there’s def some fun ones i don’t doubt it but now that modding support is out im interested to see what Modders will have made in a few months from now

[teal moon]

Yeah

[azure oriole]

Some great cooks out there

[dusty mauve]

I know one trick about chick point on ultra nightmare

[austere bronze]

There already are great mods out

Mods from even before the official mod launcher update

[storm eagle]

It's definitely going to keep getting better and better

[azure oriole]

I’m still waiting for 2016’s gauss canon to be in eternal

[storm eagle]

That would've been something for sure

[young mango]

got a 6:24 exultia, I like the progress im beginning to make

[serene stone]

There's a mod I saw but it was really bootlegged and the audio mixing was very off

[trim herald]

I'm curious, how many of yall play Doom Eternal using keyboard + mouse and how easy was it? I'm a controller player but I'm trying to learn Keyboard and mouse

[storm eagle]

hell yeah, nice!

[young mango]

I’m starting to route the combat in my campaign speedruns

so hopefully I can start getting decent times soon

I think a feasible end goal currently is below 1h20m

would only require me to shave off an average of 1 minute off per level but that’s easier said than done

mars core is already as optimized as I currently could get it because of the fact that there’s basically 0 combat

but I think taras would be a massive timesave

[storm eagle]

Yeah I imagine one minute in the speedrunning world is really difficult. What's your MC record rn?

[tame violet]

I play K+M, I find it much easier than controller for two reasons:
a) I am absolute ass at fps games (hence why I play as many on pc as I can)
b) I didn't own a console until 2020 lol

I think generally K+M is easier than controller, but it depends on people's preferences

[young mango]

I think 4m41s in a real run iirc

[storm eagle]

That's fast af. I need to catch up on your newest YouTube vids tomorrow since I finally have a day off.

[trim herald]

I originally played Eternal and 2016 on my PS5 and since Doom is known as a PC game, I wanted to learn something new. So far im still getting used to keyboard but overall it feels more responsive than on controller

[tame violet]

Yeah getting some experience on both can help with figuring which works best.

[trim herald]

yea, i can say right now, that swapping weapons is way better on pc, but I like how clear each button is mapped on PS5

[tame violet]

That's true, I think I'd like the controller buttons more than my keyboard for remapping but I don't think the tradeoff would be worth it for me hahaha

[austere bronze]

Keyboard and mouse is better for eternal

After a little time adjusting you'll be way better on keyboard and mouse

[austere bronze]

About how easy it is, that just depends on how good you are with keyboard and mouse, how well you know the game and how good you are at FPS games

So that just varies from person to person

For me it wasn't easy when i started

[young mango]

I think with mission select and optimal execution sub 4 minute is doable

I’m practicing the campaign one level at a time, so I’ll get to that when I get to that

[fringe torrent]

Saw what I was pinged for here, won't even bother replying

[serene stone]

Lol

[obsidian plaza]

The one from razer or is it off brand?

Is it comfortable?

WOW that's a large pad

have fun

[austere bronze]

good stuff, have fun man

i feel like increasing damage in Eternal is quite fun, if you're playing on anything below nightmare it can be a good middle ground between difficulties and if you're comfortable on nightmare it can be an interesting new experience

i actually kinda think about what's around me and what's going to attack me now, which i completely neglected thinking about before

[obsidian plaza]

got it

https://youtu.be/Ik3urVxl0Ik can i get a feedback on this?

I really can't tell if it's quality or not.

[idle cove]

Everyone give me your pet peeves with custom levels.

[austere bronze]

marauder spam, arenas that go on for too long, too many gimmicks, overuse of a particular enemy, too much custom AI and certain possessed demons

[idle cove]

I tried Battlemode slaughter tour. Instantly was turned off by the meteor obstacles.

[austere bronze]

yea, gimmicks aren't usually fun

most of the arenas from the are good though, if i remember correctly

[royal arch]

good on paper

[austere bronze]

but it suffers from too many gimmicks

[royal arch]

define “pet peeves”

[idle cove]

google search pet peeve 👌

[austere bronze]

barely

[idle cove]

(it means something that ticks you off)

[idle cove]

Personally I find spirits to be an annoying gimmick in of themselves. Maybe if you didn't have to kill them ghostbuster style (feels like a chore) or if it didn't give them utterly ridiculous damage resistance.

[austere bronze]

yes, many demons get way too tanky when possessed, and the fact you have to use mwb to kill them is boring and bad

[idle cove]

Not as much of a problem for more episodic purposes (like Samur's shield) but encountering them in a level is just a pain.

[austere bronze]

i usually dont even bother with killing spirits anymore

only good thing with them is the extra enemy speed

and it's fair to give certain demons extra damage resistance

[idle cove]

Yeah, dealing with a faster enemy can get the adrenaline going, but just giving them an overall buff without any caveat feels stupid.

Maybe if there were different color spirits that gave different types of specific buffs with their own minor drawbacks?

I.E. a red spirit could give the possessed demon a huge damage buff, but at the cost of being a glass cannon..

Green could give them ludicrous speed, but they don't hit anywhere near as hard.

[austere bronze]

most demons already are made of glass, you'd have to be very careful with the reduced HP
but i very much support the idea

[idle cove]

And of course, blue spirits for making them a damage sponge, but making them super slow. somewhat slower, but not enough to be a sitting duck.

[austere bronze]

but, the buffs should heavily outweigh the nerfs

[idle cove]

Obviously. So they would still be a challenge.

I based that little idea off the Smash Bros 4 character customization system.

[austere bronze]

i think spirits should barely have drawbacks/have no drawbacks

[idle cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827730369200783383/1283862643102322728/image.png?ex=66e489c3&is=66e33843&hm=94dc3807d0eb54fd216a7d94f5c5b051ed34c0834468b715979a46fde3e50f7b&

[visual steeple]

No.

[idle cove]

Screw it.

Unbalanced spirits. Stats totally random.

[azure oriole]

how do console players play eternal without gyro aiming like the ps5

i'm very curious

[austere bronze]

if anyone is going to make another HoE map, they really need to fix the geo

[glossy warren]

Practice

[young verge]

Are the quake con skins exclusive?

I randomly got the 2020 and 2021

skins

Nvm

[azure oriole]

Nah

[young mango]

the geo on forgotten forest annoyed me

ledge grabs were basically non existent

[novel token]

Aiming in controller is harder, in Eternal is better to "aim with your body" or movement instead of the right stick so much, also the default sensitivity settings in controller are horrendous, they are extremely slow

also look smoothing is bad if you wanna 180 for ballista boost, in PC you can use the touchpad to make a quick 180 in normal PS4 contorller

[woven peak]

Ps5 has gyro aim tho

[azure oriole]

What i said

[woven peak]

Only console that doesnt is xbox on their default controllers (how?!?! Its 2024?!?!)

[azure oriole]

Money

Forcing people to buy 2 controllers

[woven peak]

Also doom eternal has aim assist

[azure oriole]

So awkward when you have the gyro controller and you give your friend the default one

[woven peak]

So thats probably how

[woeful wing]

Guys I need help

[tame compass]

Yeah

[woeful wing]

I’m doing get abroad the citadel and it’s not triggering the end of the mission

Like where that gate thing is either the pentagram on the platform

Near the*

[tame compass]

Have your tried resetting your Modem?

[violet zealot]

how tf would that even do anything?

like genuine question

[tame compass]

Trust me

[woeful wing]

I finished it I didn’t kill all the enemies

[tame compass]

Mondo Cool

Where are you in the game rn?

[violet zealot]

you don't need to do all encounters to beat a level

[tame compass]

Are you in the base?

[woeful wing]

Yeah

[tame compass]

Ok look for the pc

[woeful wing]

The rooms were blocked tho

[tame compass]

Huh?

[woeful wing]

Yeah with glass

[tame compass]

Are you sure? I was able to get there since the first mission

[woeful wing]

Yeah

[tame compass]

Photo?

#screenshots

[woeful wing]

I’m taking a shit rn just wait

[tame compass]

Too much info, lil bro.

[violet zealot]

in this case it's single player

[woeful wing]

Mb gng

[violet zealot]

so resetting the modem wouldn't do anything

maybe restarting from checkpoint might

[tame compass]

It would defenestrate you that's for sure.

But anyway

[young mango]

I am so gonna get that sub 1:30 when I’m done practicing campaign

[junior burrow]

I'm trying online on PS5. ALMOST got to the BFG and killed someone with it as the slayer on round 4 to get the weapons kill trophy, then the opponent demons disconnected and I auto-won. Now the lobbies are dead or at least everyone's playing private. Is it usually like this?

Also, does the multiplayer have cross play between platforms? Something tells me I'm not seeing a lot of people because most who play it via Playstation are offline

[uneven vine]

there's no cross play sadly

[azure oriole]

Downloaded eternal back to check out the mods

[broken sky]

What is Pc modding thingy in beta what does it do?

[azure oriole]

It mods the game?

You can choose mods and custom maps you can play

[pearl viper]

Does anyone know a keyboard chart maker that I can use to label my eternal controls and then save it as an image?

[modest matrix]

Am I the only one having any problems with the game right now?

[azure oriole]

For some reason I’ve completed the plasma gun upgrades and yet I’ve not received the skin

[azure oriole]

Wait never mind

[serene stone]

I always had a shitton of bugs in this game.

Anyway funny you say that considering I just played Eternal today for the first time in awhile and the game straight up crashed. :/

[austere bronze]

I just played Eternal today for the first time today

I've gotten quite good at just not taking any damage

[azure oriole]

Does Doom Eternal have motion blur? And if yes, can it be disabled completely?

Motion blur makes me have headaches so yeah

[obsidian plaza]

yes it can be disabled

[azure oriole]

Tyty

[obsidian plaza]

np

[serene stone]

Nice

[idle cove]

Average non-damage taker

[austere bronze]

I still take damage... unfortunately

But i almost completely ignore restacking and still win lol

[idle cove]

Ignore whatnow?

[austere bronze]

Restacking

Yknow, glory killing, using flame belch and stuff like that

[idle cove]

Someone teach this person about the word "heal"

[austere bronze]

Restacking is what it's referred to

[idle cove]

Source?

[austere bronze]

The community lol, everyone just refers to it as restacking

[idle cove]

First time hearing it referred to that way.

[austere bronze]

But healing works for when you get armor/health i suppose, it just sounds a bit weird to me

idk, healing just sounds weird to me

[strange gale]

restacking is a term that refers to gathering any game-specific resource, healing is too specific in this case as it only refers to gathering health

it's commonly used in the quake community

your "stack" consists of your health, ammo, and armor, and i'd lump blood punch in there as well

it's a convenient catch-all word

[frank drum]

lolololololol

[dusty notch]

Anyone want to play private matches?

[frail thorn]

What do y’all think is the best demon to play in battle mode

[kindred olive]

i need help
how do we get master level? i completed the super gore nest and all its tasks but didnt get anything

[frail thorn]

Answer

[dusty notch]

Demonblade hand dude

[kindred olive]

i never played battlemode but from what i see on yt
its the Mancubus

[frail thorn]

Nah

[kindred olive]

i dont really know

[frail thorn]

My experience it’s trash

[kindred olive]

.

[frail thorn]

Slow and barely does damage

[kindred olive]

maybe im watching noobs

[visual steeple]

nah

[faint lotus]

You gotta finish the campaign first

[kindred olive]

i already do

[faint lotus]

Then you should have the master levels unlocked

[kindred olive]

i don't💀💀

dont tell me its glitched

[faint lotus]

Are you trying to access them through the ship or through the main menu?

Try access them on the ship if you haven't already

[kindred olive]

i tried main menu

but it says i dont have any of them

[faint lotus]

Screenshot?

[kindred olive]

uhh..i got discord bugged too it doesn't send screenshots🤦

[faint lotus]

Have you restarted the game?

[kindred olive]

No need for it it just says i dont have them so i really dont know what should i do

[kindred olive]

um no i didnt try

[faint lotus]

Do that

[kindred olive]

Like restart the campagin or the whole game

[faint lotus]

Exit the game

[kindred olive]

yes

[faint lotus]

And see if that fixes things

[kindred olive]

it didn't 😭🙏

something wrong with this game bruh

[faint lotus]

Try starting them from the ship

There's a master level screen on the ship you can use

[kindred olive]

i will try this wait

[young mango]

Kind of a lack of context here but master levels normally aren’t locked with completion of their respective level, and with what I’ve been given I can assume that you just need to be connected to the internet whilst opening the master level sections because for some reason a locally stored thing needs to have connection to a server to activate via normal means

[kindred olive]

so i need to be connected to the internet?

[uneven vine]

Mythbusters time

[faint lotus]

I just want to check again, so you've completed every mission in the campaign?

[kindred olive]

yes

dlc as well

[faint lotus]

Hmm

[kindred olive]

maybe i should be connected to the internet

the problem is i got the game on cracked ps4 cuz i cant afford it on pc

[faint lotus]

Damn

[kindred olive]

i saw the 90% sale

[faint lotus]

Maybe it has something to do with bethesda account and you need to be logged in

[kindred olive]

but i could not buy it cuz its banned here to buy stuff from internet

[faint lotus]

But that seems very odd

[kindred olive]

hmm

[uneven vine]

I can play master levels just fine with no internet, but im not on playstation so idk

[young mango]

you can do that yes, but with the assumption that this person is new to this game, there is the possibility that their master levels have not been activated via connection to Bethesda servers yet

after the initial process it does not require internet

[uneven vine]

OHHHHHHHHH

[kindred olive]

stupid ps4, i might download the game offline on pc

but i need a strong internet cuz its a huge file size

[kindred olive]

damn i think this is the case

[faint lotus]

womp womp

[kindred olive]

lol

[young mango]

just verify/deny my assumption here by giving me a piece of context, are the master levels not there at all, or do they have a lock icon on them?

[faint lotus]

The master levels are really good so that kinda sucks

[kindred olive]

not there at all

[young mango]

yep it’s a connection problem

[kindred olive]

😭

[kindred olive]

fr i will try to get the game on pc

[young mango]

could Mayhaps be a problem on bethesdas part too Idek they’re notorious for being wonky

[faint lotus]

I remember having problems with master levels aswell

Unlocking them that is

[kindred olive]

i really feel like i need something new to the game like beating the campagin over 3 times and dlc is kinda boring now

[kindred olive]

so what did you do to have them

[faint lotus]

Don't remember

Maybe I connected to internet

I don't know

[faint lotus]

Have you done them on nightmare?

[kindred olive]

i was about to say i just remembered that i changed the diff in the middle of the the game to nightmare

[faint lotus]

Have you done them on ultra-nightmare??

[kindred olive]

No

[faint lotus]

Could try that

[kindred olive]

its hard on ps4

[faint lotus]

Yeah I find it a bit harder aswell

It's easier to use the heavy cannon while quick-swapping tho

[kindred olive]

all weapons too

High fov too

[young mango]

I will never get over the objective flaw that is the workings of these master levels, there is the glaringly obvious part of them needing server connection for a locally stored file, but also the addition of there being scrapped master levels that were just kind of left in the games files because fuck it why not, they also have some weird system of being intertwined, and this was especially undercooked when SGN master level initially released where it basically fucked the entire game and there was a thing where exiting to desktop on an ultra nightmare session of SGN ML would delete your save file

[faint lotus]

[kindred olive]

Bruh

that sucks

[young mango]

that last part with SGN ML doesn’t happen anymore but it was a shitshow at the time

[kindred olive]

I think we should NEVER play ultra nightmare it literally could destroy me completely and lose my mind

[faint lotus]

I can imagine

[kindred olive]

I see, it also had alot of bugs but now its okay

[faint lotus]

Currently doing main campaing and it's a pain

[kindred olive]

fr man ( i don't like to use cheat codes)

[faint lotus]

Managed to get to the end of taras nabad a couple of days ago but got stuck between a pillar and a demon and got absolutely shredded

[kindred olive]

Ohh

[faint lotus]

Was doing great on cultist base like an hour ago but killed myself with rockets

[kindred olive]

yo that was so bad death

I will beat the level on nightmare diff again and check what happenes

super gore nest*

[young mango]

I think my worst ultra nightmare death ever was when I had beaten the last arena in nekravol and on my way to end the level I died to an environmental hazard

[faint lotus]

Enviromental deaths can kiss my ass

[kindred olive]

My worst death of ultra nighmare was my first death and it was in the first level

[faint lotus]

Happens to all of us 💀

[kindred olive]

cuz i left the game afk💀

Like why making golden combat shotgun specificly for ultra nighmare

[faint lotus]

Gonna try another run in a few hours

[kindred olive]

nicee

[faint lotus]

It's ultra-nightmare but only for one level

super gore nest

[kindred olive]

Wait really???

[faint lotus]

It's a great level

Yes you only have to do that one

[kindred olive]

maybe i should retry (i still cant reach there on ps4)

[faint lotus]

You get golden suit skin for ultra nightmare campaing

[young mango]

not specifically ultra nightmare, ultra nightmare is just one of the criteria that needs to be met

for the combat shotgun

[faint lotus]

👆

[kindred olive]

ohh..but that one worth it ngl

[faint lotus]

You also get a gold one for doing dlc 1

[young mango]

I will never get over how stupid the master level challenges are

[faint lotus]

That thing with the weapons is just bruh

[kindred olive]

its actually harder

[kindred olive]

why

[young mango]

-do level on nightmare
-do level on nightmare ( no dying )
-do level on nightmare ( with gimmick involving extra lives )
-classic mode ( difficulty not a requirement )

same thing 3 times

[faint lotus]

They could've innovate some more on the challanges

[kindred olive]

are these like tasks?

[faint lotus]

Maybe something like gun game

[young mango]

it’s me having paraphrased what the master level challenges are yes

[faint lotus]

Or something with the demons "every heavy demon killed spawns X other demons" or something

They could've done a lot but really choose "complete it 3 times"

[young mango]

I mean It’s not even the fact that the challenges are bad, I could care less about their quality, I’m more annoyed that they felt as if these things needed to be designated their own unique categories as to stretch out the process of completion for next to no reason

[faint lotus]

The classic one is kinda cool but I mostly found it annoying

[young mango]

nightmare and ultra nightmare being in separate brackets is just ridiculous, they’re legit the same thing

[faint lotus]

bUt YoU haVE to nOt Die

[young mango]

like nightmare counting towards the difficulties below them in master levels but not ultra nightmare just seems like such a weird choice

[faint lotus]

Wait, it don't?

If that's the case then it's really shitty

[azure oriole]

Tammie’s back at complaining about difficulty 🗣️🔥🔥

[young mango]

oh hello

back at it again I see

[visual steeple]

It’s so strange my battlemode comes with a campaign :/

It’s cool I guess

[storm eagle]

lol stahp ragebaiting

[azure oriole]

[azure oriole]

say what

[novel token]

same problem here, my Battlemode game came with the same issue :/

there should be a mod that removes Campaign and leaves you with only the Battlemode game

[visual steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050926248077054083/1283686290143051777/Screenshot_20240519_201348_Discord.jpg?ex=66e5dfc5&is=66e48e45&hm=975f0ceced134a17b8a0dc9f9225e04ff6e82f05522dfe9c92bec31cdece64fc&

Ofc man the campaign takes up too much space

[idle cove]

I get why this exists but that's also one of the funniest serious mods I've ever seen.

[azure oriole]

at least we getting a new doom game soon

unlike tf2 and half life where they went without an update for more than one and a half decade now

[novel vector]

as much as i want these things to get new stuff, yeah this aint true, tf2 got an update about a month ago, half life alyx released a few years ago

[dusty notch]

Anyone on PS5 and want play battlemode private match?

[wispy night]

like imagine like a little kid got into a big brothers account and open the games and sees it like that

[azure oriole]

alyx is vr exclusive and those were quality of life updates for tf2 so nothing major

i can't lie tho that seal was 🔥

[novel vector]

vr game still game, fixing the bot stuff is pretty major imo

[azure oriole]

still no balance change updates like jungle inferno

everyone wants a phlog, vaccinator nerf

[long pike]

WHO DESIDED TO MAKE DOOM SLAYER MORE POWERFUL

https://external-preview.redd.it/3_aqZKiV6b9FfIkGMBrKmHRwfvnkp2gqRc9yu23fvgs.jpg?auto=webp&s=e01c310150c83900e246a604283821e2ad21fae1

[azure oriole]

[austere bronze]

youre my nr1 hater

[serene stone]

I thought that was yourself

May or may not be joking

[austere bronze]

what are these accusations

[serene stone]

Wait, am I your biggest hater?

😮

[austere bronze]

i am your biggest hater

[serene stone]

We both our biggest haters

[azure oriole]

I’m just curious does anyone know a good method that can get me the red stars I’m at level 55 and I was trying out some glitch where apparently you just keep on getting killed by the marauder over and over and you keep on getting XP but I don’t know if I got any

Oh, and by the way, is it hard to get the keys? I really want that weapon.

[young mango]

grinding for max prestige is impossibly stupid, the method you’re stating I’m fairly sure is a fast way to rack up xp, but there’s only one player I think has reached max prestige via normal means and that’s MMAFRO, which according to him took 4000 hours, literally everybody else you see with max prestige just edited their profile.bin

[azure oriole]

No, I’m not talking like Max prestige. I mean all I really want is maybe like one normal star

[young mango]

You specifically said red stars

[austere bronze]

It's not hard to get slayer keys, you can lool up their location on youtube or something

[azure oriole]

Well, I don’t know because I just quit out and I think it was patched or something because I don’t know if I leveled up at all

[austere bronze]

Then the slayer gates can be hard, but its not too bad

[azure oriole]

All I really want is just to level up. I’ve already maxed out the event in two days.

[young mango]

Slayer gates are basically just normal arenas but balanced as if they were later levels as opposed to your current arsenal

[austere bronze]

Why would you want to level up?

[azure oriole]

Just my level

[austere bronze]

Yeah... but why do you want to level up?

[azure oriole]

What do you mean by what do I want to level up at this point? I just wanna get everything in the campaign every toy every key every weapon I was gonna shoot for every armor, but that’s physically impossible because some of them are not on console and PC players are lucky because they have mods.

Which I really don’t get because if I’m not wrong, doom is a Bethesda game isn’t Bethesda known for having games with endgame mod menus they made a mod menu for doom 1+2 for the PlayStation why can’t they just do one from doing eternal? Would it be really, really hard

[austere bronze]

Doom is made by id software

Bethesda is the publisher

[azure oriole]

My bad it’s just I’m annoyed. There was a commander k outfit and apparently you can’t get it anymore which sucks

[young mango]

upon having studied the routing for the campaign more thoroughly in hopes of getting a faster speedrun time i just found something ludicrous

[young mango]

on the very first arena the next wave of enemies behind the barrier actually spawning is triggered by clearing all fodder in the arena, and a prowler ( technically fodder according to game files ), but the mancubus dying is not a condition that needs to be met for this, infact it's not even a condition that needs to be met for the barrier to despawn even, so yeah a tier 1 zombie can stop you from progressing but an entire mancubus is just optional for no reason at all

[gaunt hull]

Hey

[fringe torrent]

You can on Xbox and MS Store via the Raze Hell DLC. Gotta find a key for it though

[quaint scarab]

Even with mighty doom gone, we still have arachnotron dancing indefinitely to pay tribute.

[echo fractal]

Hi. I started playing battlemode and a lot of people have the venom skin for the dread knight. how do i get this skin too? it's so cool

oh it turned out I already had it! I don't know how I even got it

[fringe torrent]

What does the description say?

[echo fractal]

BATTLEMODE 2.0 Reward

[fringe torrent]

Hm. You probably got it from Battlemode 2.0 -> Series

[echo fractal]

Yh just seen it

I had to complete 1 hot streak as a demon. Which I done much more than that

The skin is cool af

[fringe torrent]

Just a tip, to clear a Series you only need to focus on the top reward. Getting a reward from a tier automatically unlocks the tiers below it

[molten bough]

is dere a bug where enemies just dont show up in arc complex for eternal?

[faint lotus]

Just made it pass doom hunter base on ultra-nightmare

[faint lotus]

Did you manage to get past it?

[leaden cape]

[frail thorn]

How do you get skins in doom

[molten bough]

yea i just reset da level

[faint lotus]

There is one arena fight inside where you have to run around the area untill a cyber mancubus pops up from the floor

There's no marker or anything

[civic isle]

Is doom eternal on controller still fun?

[cloud harness]

Compared to guitar controller? Not really

[echo fractal]

hi. does anyone know the name of the music in battlemode that plays at the beginning of the match when all the players are introduced and levels are shown

[serene stone]

Ye

Well not really for me anymore, but it was fun when I liked Doom Eternal

[hardy pivot]

[molten bough]

dis was afterwards

i was talking about the plane area

[tardy pier]

Another un run lost to cultists base

[idle cove]

That one confined bloody area with the laser walls...

[tardy pier]

If youre talking about the one before you get the ssg then thats exactly where i died

I think they spawn a mancubus and something else on you at the same time

[idle cove]

When the floor go "nope"

[tardy pier]

Yeah lull

[idle cove]

That one area is cat pee.

"Yo dawg I heard you like HEAVIES AND CQC"

Mancubi are incredibly dangerous, I swear.

[uneven vine]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-doom-eternal-gif-17018079158549458753

[pale oriole]

Yo

[uneven vine]

A GAME THEORY

[azure oriole]

fighting 20 mancubi is harder than fighting 20 marauders

[junior token]

Doom is an isekai world and you can't convince me otherwise

Also is there like a skin for doomguy that just makes him like. A guy. I want a regular guy slayer skin

[azure oriole]

isn't isekai a japanese word for fiction lol

[azure oriole]

The closest thing to that would be the commander keen skin ironically enough

[dense finch]

FAST

WHAT IS THE MOST SHORT MASTER LVL?

[austere bronze]

arc complex

[dense finch]

thx

[faint lotus]

Yeah that room sucks, I like to save chainsaw fuel so I can instakill one of the mancubi

[deft geyser]

Sad that doom eternal doesn't have custom weapon wheel options for battlemode

[frail thorn]

CAN SOMEONE TELL HOW TO GET GOOD SKINS

[echo brook]

Seasonal passes

[frail thorn]

How

Can you tell

[idle cove]

It's that one kind of anime where it starts with a normal character getting hit by a truck.

[frail thorn]

Can someone tell me how to get the seasonal pass

[idle cove]

Buy it.

[faint lotus]

Just died at Kalibas on my un run

I fell into the lava three times

[fringe torrent]

Main Menu -> Events
or/and
Battlemode 2.0 -> Series

[azure oriole]

Well ID did it 1st but instead of the truck hitting the guy it hit his pet

[royal arch]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-22276944

[royal arch]

rip

[azure oriole]

I completed the rocket launcher challenges and I have t received my skin yet, what do I do?

[woven peak]

Bfg:

[azure oriole]

I always forgor that little guy exists

[austere bronze]

Even without BFG 20 mancs is way easier

[lavish talon]

whats the best way to grind for event xp? I really want the Doom 64 master collection

[uneven vine]

i find completing the monthly challenges and beating levels on nightmare levels me up pretty quick

or battlemode if thats your kinda thing

[quaint wind]

Guys can you help? Yesterday I bought a steam doom eternal copy, previously I had it pirated (RUNE cracked version, previously was EMPRESS). Do you guys know how to transfer RUNE saves to steam? I have previously transferred saves from EMPRESS version to RUNE with a DOOM Save Manager, but I'm not sure you can transfer from cracked version to licensed the same way (+ I totally forgot how to use Save Manager)

[obsidian plaza]

go to C:\Users<username>\Saved Games\id Software\DOOMEternal\base\savegame. check if you still have your save files.

i've never used save managers but maybe i can help this way

[gray skiff]

whats goin on chat been a while

[obsidian plaza]

pretty good what's up with yoiu

[austere bronze]

hello

[obsidian plaza]

you*

[quaint wind]

yeah, the savegame folder is nonexistent lol. Though I right now still have both versions installed, cracked still has the same progress

[gray skiff]

just chillin rn, gaming soon

[obsidian plaza]

weird. did you install the cracked version or was it portable?

[quaint wind]

I've read that RUNE saves are located at C:\Users\Public\Documents\Steam\RUNE

[obsidian plaza]

but it was empty right?

[quaint wind]

it is empty at C:\Users<username>\Saved Games\id Software\DOOMEternal\base\savegame

at C:\Users\Public\Documents\Steam\RUNE there is a folder, just checked. Looks like save files, with GAME-AUTOSAVE0 and all that

[obsidian plaza]

copy the second one into the first. that should do it.

[strong radish]

does doom eternal have hell levels

[quaint wind]

two and a half in the base game

[obsidian plaza]

What are hell levels?

[quaint wind]

levels with hell I guess

[strong radish]

are the levels long

[violet zealot]

levels that take place in hell

[quaint wind]

depends on how you play. Can take from 15 to 30 minutes. Master levels take 40+ minutes

[strong radish]

I almost bought it but you need a bethesda account

[austere bronze]

no, the 2.5 levels combined are as long as 2 levels

[strong radish]

i dont know if i should have

[obsidian plaza]

oh like literally. i thought it meant like master levels or something.

[austere bronze]

if you were referring to the hell levels

[strong radish]

so it's almost like 3 levels long?

[obsidian plaza]

@DOOMer did it work?

[quaint wind]

buy it. Now that it has mod support, it will have eternal amount content

[strong radish]

or it's almost 3 levels as long as 2 levels each

[austere bronze]

levels take about 1 hour to finish, and in total there are 13

[strong radish]

I just want to be able to play once betheda goes bankrupt and everything goes offline

[obsidian plaza]

lol

[strong radish]

it happens every time i buy a game i need a 2nd account for

do you still get custom levels on ps4

[violet zealot]

nah

mods are currently not a thing on console when it comes to Eternal

[obsidian plaza]

yeah unfortunately

[strong radish]

is it still fun without the mods compared to 1-2-3

and 4 i always forget about doom 4

[violet zealot]

yes

[obsidian plaza]

agreed

[obsidian plaza]

the forgotten prototype

[quaint wind]

Nope. Not even an error or anything. Maybe that's because of the folder name, idk

[strong radish]

I'll try to find it

[obsidian plaza]

hmmm

[austere bronze]

Eternal is a very fun game

lots of depth in the combat

[obsidian plaza]

make sure about folder names

[strong radish]

where does the rest of the game take place other than the 2 hell levels

[violet zealot]

it’s so good it’s the only game he’s played in the last 2 years /j

[obsidian plaza]

heaven

and earth

[fringe torrent]

And Mars

[obsidian plaza]

and mars yes

[violet zealot]

and a hole in mars right after

[austere bronze]

i would assume 75% of my gaming time has gone to Eternal the past year

[strong radish]

aw man are you serious

[obsidian plaza]

NO YOU CAN'T SHOOT A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS!!

[violet zealot]

he is

[strong radish]

all the angels in the fan art are in the game?

[obsidian plaza]

bfg go brr

[quaint wind]

4 base game levels take place on earth, 1 on phobos/mars, 3 in a medieval dimension and 1 in heaven

[austere bronze]

it doesn't feel like ive been playing eternal for a year lol

[obsidian plaza]

what was the link

[strong radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903358333027766283/1284937138215063713/1025036-scaled.jpg?ex=66e87276&is=66e720f6&hm=00bc27dd582fccb489c2e7db1d46ff332b6f788dff24d95584631e791497476c&

[obsidian plaza]

wait how did you send pic i can't do that

[austere bronze]

i play it quite a decent bit per day lol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1284937160868237395/Screenshot_2024-09-15_102818.png?ex=66e8727c&is=66e720fc&hm=8e852eadbb6eb202e680d33371fe77155989553893816bd05aad58c63e27afdf&

[violet zealot]

embed

[lavish talon]

embed

[strong radish]

its a discord link

[obsidian plaza]

oof

[obsidian plaza]

got it

[strong radish]

man if all that stuff is in the game this looks liek the coolest one

[violet zealot]

ok man you need to play other Doom games lol

you’ve gotten too good at Eternal for your own good

[quaint wind]

it's not a fan art

[austere bronze]

wrong, i need to get better!

[strong radish]

it can't be the box art it's the wrong dimensions

[violet zealot]

it’s not the box art

but it’s still official art

[quaint wind]

it's just official art

[lavish talon]

it is the box art but just a widescreen ver of it

[strong radish]

why didn't they show this off everywhere with the angels and sky tentacles this is the coolest shit ever

[obsidian plaza]

they did

[quaint wind]

yeah they did

[obsidian plaza]

i've seen it on every box

it's cool as hell

[strong radish]

the box art is just a guy doing a dropkick like wtf that's not as awesome as sky tentacles and cyber angels

[quaint wind]

you sound like you haven't watched the trailers btw

if you didn't, watch em

[strong radish]

I haven't even seen the doom 4 trailer yet

[obsidian plaza]

yeah i think they wanted to reference doom 1 with that art

[austere bronze]

i need to get more fluid movement, better restacking, better awareness of what's around me and even more air camping

[violet zealot]

note Doom 4 most often relates to the unreleased tech demo of DOOM (2016)

[obsidian plaza]

yeah wanted to say this

[strong radish]

well I already know I'm getting it now

I have to wait until the next quake con

[obsidian plaza]

have you tried Hellfire cavern mod? it's really cool it just got released give it a try

[strong radish]

I'll just buy the ps4 version if bethesda accounts go down

wtf there's a doom eternal remake so i dont even need to buy it at all now

[obsidian plaza]

ps4 version is great honestly. i played it there first

[lavish talon]

you need a bethesda account to play doom eternal?

[obsidian plaza]

what? remake?

[austere bronze]

i have not, i dont play most custom maps since the encounter design is usually quite mediocre and pretty easy, which im not super into

[lavish talon]

I thought it was just for online content

[austere bronze]

recently ive been playing a lot of randomizers

[obsidian plaza]

agreed this one was also a bit easy

[strong radish]

they remade it for doom 2

[obsidian plaza]

those are brutal

[strong radish]

is that true

if the bethesda account is optional then i should have bought it 3 months ago

[lavish talon]

well they didnt really "remake", its a remaster

[strong radish]

aw man

[austere bronze]

yeah they can be pretty hard, but ive been enjoying proteh's randomizer in the world spear master level a lot

[strong radish]

they didnt remaster it they made the game again in 2d

[midnight sparrow]

An eternal remake in Doom II?? What are you talking about?

[strong radish]

is it going to let me link it

[lavish talon]

doom 2 is not 2d..?

[quaint wind]

it kinda is

from a technical standpoint

[lavish talon]

it uses sprites for things but it very much is 3d

[obsidian plaza]

i'm gonna give it a try although i don't have ancient gods dlc

does it randomize other lvls as well?

[austere bronze]

i recommend the DLCs

[austere bronze]

it randomizes everything, except custom maps

[obsidian plaza]

i've played them they were awesome but i had the cracked version

[obsidian plaza]

cool

[austere bronze]

and it gets randomizer everytime you load a checkpoint and die too

so you'll never get the same encounter

[quaint wind]

nah, the engine worked in 2d, though it rendered everything as if it was 3d. If you think about it, doom 1, 2 and 64 are top-down shooters, rendered as 3d games

[strong radish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaSRgEbkCoA

[obsidian plaza]

that's cool

[austere bronze]

there is a balanced randomizer and unbalanced, unbalanced being the harder

the unbalanced version has a lot of added heavies and super heavies

[obsidian plaza]

it also includes possessed demons right?

[austere bronze]

yes

[quaint wind]

it uses models from the quake mod called "slayer's testaments" btw

[midnight sparrow]

From a technical standpoint according to Sandy Peterson Doom is 2.5D due to stuff like the fact the y-axis kinda sorta doesn’t exist in some cases and stuff like that

[austere bronze]

it has everything except giant tentacles

[obsidian plaza]

hell yea

[obsidian plaza]

those were annoying

[lavish talon]

well at least in the case of doom 64 it is very much is complete 3D as levels actually use polygons iirc

[strong radish]

I'll get the real game once it's on sale again

[quaint wind]

that's kinda what I was saying, wasn't I?

[strong radish]

if doom 2 was 3D they would have called it doom 2 3D

[quaint wind]

k maybe 64 is 3d

[austere bronze]

fr, normal tentacles maybe just disturb you a bit at most, but the giant tentacles can just ruin a fight

id probably recommend starting with the balanced randomizer, unless you are confident in your skills

[obsidian plaza]

yeah it's so annoying

[lavish talon]

also I'd recommend watching borogk's video on it. he brings some really good points on the subject of doom being 3D

[violet zealot]

Doom 2 is 3D

[midnight sparrow]

No you said 2D which is very VERY different

[violet zealot]

same with Doom 1

[steady ember]

Doom has a y axis…

[obsidian plaza]

i am confident i'll give it a try

[strong radish]

how is wolfenstein 3D in 3D but wolfenstein new order not have 3D in the title

[violet zealot]

^

[austere bronze]

alright, come back and say your thoughts!
personally im a sucker for proteh's unbalanced randomizer lol

[lavish talon]

its just that the engine has very limited 3D features due to the time

[violet zealot]

Wolf3D is called that because the older Wolf titles were 2D

[steady ember]

Infinitely tall actors has nothing to do with whether or not the y axis exists, doom is 3D

[quaint wind]

og doom is rendered the way as if it had a y axis. technically it does not

[obsidian plaza]

lol i'm going to join soon

[violet zealot]

Projectiles can go over enemies

[steady ember]

It literally does because you can move between upper and lower areas

[quaint wind]

which is why when you shot the enemy above you it still was hurt

[violet zealot]

that alone proves that it has a Z axis

[steady ember]

That’s auto aim

Not a result of the lack of a y axis

[quaint wind]

og doom doesn't have things like 2nd floors or anything. It was a feature since quake, and then zdoom and other ports

[violet zealot]

the engine is limited 3D

[steady ember]

Doesn’t matter. It’s 3D

[violet zealot]

but fundamentally still 3D

[strong radish]

if you don't need 3D glasses it's not 3D

[midnight sparrow]

That’s the term I was thinking of limited 3D

[violet zealot]

not 2.5D, especially not 1.5D

[steady ember]

The game has height variation and it checks for it

[midnight sparrow]

What even is 1.5D?

[steady ember]

That’s why when you shoot a rocket it can go over an imp standing on a lower level

[violet zealot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strong radish]

1.5d means you can move to the right but not the left

[obsidian plaza]

wha

[midnight sparrow]

incredible

[strong radish]

it only has 1 dimension and another 1/2

so the bethesda account for doom osiris is optional do you guys know if it is for doom 5

[steady ember]

Doom Eternal?

Not completely sure actually, I would assume so

[lavish talon]

whats doom osiris? is that the new game they announced?

[steady ember]

It’s the official port

[lavish talon]

oh

[steady ember]

classic doom 1 + 2

[lavish talon]

oh yeah right, I almost forgot that nightdive names their remasters after egyptian gods

[strong radish]

its got every doom until final doom

its just missing disc 2 of master levels with the 3000 wads

[steady ember]

Maximum doom

[lavish talon]

ok but who actually wants to play maximum doom

[steady ember]

Very few

Officially sanctioned shovelware

[strong radish]

after you beat all the other dooms

[steady ember]

Then you play user made wads :p

[strong radish]

you can't just stop playing doom afer you beat them all

[steady ember]

Some of which are in maximum doom

[lavish talon]

the fact that there are any at all has me surprised

[steady ember]

There was a stream where someone played all of them

It took a while

[strong radish]

levels must be hard to make in the 90s all the levels in master levels were bad

like make a mall level or a carnival level or a wrestling arena but everyone just makes an army base on phobos

[lavish talon]

yeah, iirc back then 3d mode wasnt a thing for map editors

even when making Doom 64

[strong radish]

everyone only wanted to make army base levels

[steady ember]

Not feasible at the time, at least in any way that would be recognizable to us

Like I guess they could make a mall level, but you probably wouldn’t be able to tell

It would look like a tech base

[strong radish]

I wanna fight demons in the middle of the sun or a black hole or someplace cool theres just too many army levels

[steady ember]

I also think that doom is abstract and level themes aren’t really literal a lot of the time

[lavish talon]

then I would recommend Eviternity and its sequel

[steady ember]

Usually when I make a map I don’t really think hard about what exactly it’s meant to be

[strong radish]

i think i just downlaoded that

[steady ember]

Even when I design the resource

[strong radish]

aw man that's like the most fun part of desigining a level

[steady ember]

My favorite part is the layout and design

[strong radish]

a pyramid at the bottom of the sea

[lavish talon]

when I make maps I just make funny shapes until it looks fun to play. I come up with most of the ideas mid-mapping

[strong radish]

and ice castles on neptune

[steady ember]

I’m personally more interested in just making a space that’s fun to move around in and looks nice

I don’t get hyper conceptual, but there are people that are really good at that

Usually I come up with a vague theme “purple Japan” “overgrown rusty base by the sea” “Mayan temples”

[strong radish]

i'd love to make stuff like this into a level https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016066549456576552/1284944884746289162/rainbow_castle.png?ex=66e879ad&is=66e7282d&hm=5079a2c74eff29d8f7a8f7a25a901da93b0cf459a4a83eded12e25d0adf3d76d&

[austere bronze]

it would be pretty cool with a castle you have to fight your way through

you could have tight encounters in hallways and large encounters with potential for a lot of vertical movement in like dining rooms

[steady ember]

Go for it

[frail thorn]

I’m an og doom player

[strong radish]

i thought the doom engine couldnt handle it id be better to make it in build

[austere bronze]

im a doom eternal player

[frail thorn]

I remember when I was younger I always got my toy guns and pretended to slay demons

[strong radish]

I'll play all the doom games except that ngage one I have no idea how to use those

[frail thorn]

What’s the best gun in eternal

[austere bronze]

super shotgun, because of the meathook

second is ballista

[frail thorn]

For battle mode

[austere bronze]

but it's kinda hard to rank them, because some are dependent on other guns

[steady ember]

Aren’t you forgetting micro missiles? the incredibly useful, always dependable micro missiles?

[frail thorn]

What about the best demon in battle mode to play

I think super shotgun aswell

[austere bronze]

i cant tell if this is sarcasm or not

[steady ember]

Or the chaingun

[austere bronze]

no idea, i havent touched battlemode

[steady ember]

Auto shotty

Microwave beam

[frail thorn]

I think it’s marauder

What about you egg boy

[steady ember]

Honestly never tried battle mode, I would probably get wrecked hehe

[long pike]

WHO DESIDED TO MAKE DOOM SLAYER MORE POWERFUL

[steady ember]

I have played as the revenant since that is required in the main game

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I really don’t mind the revenant set piece, it’s a fun way to introduce the idea of playing as a demon

I like the build up they give to the SSG in eternal, they make it feel really important, in 2016 you just kind of find it, which is fine, different type of game

[austere bronze]

true, the revenant section is neat, along with the buildup

[steady ember]

I like that you can spare the revenant

I’m sure canonically he gets summoned into a fight later in the game and inevitably gets killed by the slayer

Would have been cool to play as an archvile and summon an army of demons to fight other demons for you

[frail thorn]

I think marauder is the best

[faint lotus]

Do any of you guys go for slayer gate nr 2 when doing an un-run? I usually don't, I find it a bit risky

[austere bronze]

I just dont run UN🙃

[azure oriole]

Lies

[austere bronze]

No, UN sucks

[azure oriole]

Indeed

[faint lotus]

Not being able to skip the sentinel battery cutscenes is so jarring

[young mango]

animation cancelling 😛

unless you mean the insertion animation

then yeah that is annoying

[faint lotus]

The insertion

[azure oriole]

What’s the timing on sentinel batteries anyway

I have done it but i never got it consistently

[young mango]

just be in the process of switching weapons while interacting with it, it’s fairly lenient

it’s even moreso lenient early game because no hot swapper ( don’t quote me on this )

[azure oriole]

Switch after pressing f to pickup ?

has the cacodemon always had little arms and feet

Yes

[young mango]

beforehand

also iirc animation cancelling can also be achieved by firing rapid fire weapons for the amount they would need to be to normally achieve FSE, plasma rifle and chaingun, unmaykr might work as well but idk

[young mango]

i was close, this method doesn’t skip the animation, it just allows you to walk during it

[lunar oyster]

hi

Can you help me master the morader?

[shy talon]

S-shotgun and balista combo id say

[lunar oyster]

I'm talking about the timing mode

I'm sorry I didn't specify

[blissful silo]

[prime oriole]

bruh the pro tip for defeating a tyrant is "shoot it until it dies"

[blissful silo]

[median grove]

Name the best slayer skin mine is ebony praetor

[median grove]

[slate cliff]

Classic Marine

[young mango]

the codex has some menial advice that’s very broad so it doesn’t really mean anything, but all in all, the tyrant is a glorified sitting duck with a health pool of 10000 and is honestly quite a disappointing part of the combat loop

[solid oyster]

Is there really a point to using the unmaykr over the BFG?

[novel token]

unfortunately Marauder is considered the weakest demon in the roster, tho it usually measures "best demons" in duos which are: Pain + Mancubus and Archvile + Dreadknight, IMO those two duos are the best in the game

as single demon, Dreadknight might be the strongest one IMO too, just dishes out too much damage

[young mango]

dreadknight pre 6.0 was menacing

full stack obliterated by a single ground slam

also the fact that it registered as multiple attacks so it had the ability to bypass barrier of death ( don’t quote me on this )

[steady ember]

Yeah they are basically support demons, which is weird considering how threatening they are in OG doom

They kinda just hang around and do that rocket rain move

I guess if they were constantly shooting 1 shot kill rockets like the OG it would be hard to keep track of with the chaos of eternal

[storm eagle]

Nope, literally never imo lol

[tidal nymph]

there's no point in using either

😊

but yeah bfg is 100x better

[storm eagle]

Hi Tammie 👋

[young mango]

this glitch resulted in from what I’ve heard, an about 4x duplication of its damage at worst, it does 80 damage upon initial contact on nightmare, ignoring the lingering damage, that’s 320 damage via a single attack, with 200 health and 150 armor being a full stack, this is absurd and was an almost guaranteed one shot

[young mango]

hello

[storm eagle]

How are you? Have you been working on your campaign speedrun time still? Like personal record

[young mango]

yeah I worked on my campaign time and got something I was satisfied with despite having let a considerable amount of mistakes happen, 1h23m41s

[storm eagle]

Did u upload a YouTube of it? I wanna check it out tonight if so. Speedrunning is so satisfying to watch lol

[young mango]

yes it’s on my YouTube channel and I have also posted it in the #speedrunning channel, do note however that exultia, Urdak, and final sin in particular are spots in the run with the most suboptimal execution

In urdak i had to redo the entire purple ring fight because I got get down mr presidented by a hell knight

[storm eagle]

Awesome I'll watch it in a bit! 🙂

[woven peak]

Only really In small rooms with super heavies

Outside of that no not really

[strange gale]

the first instance of damage would be mitigated like it's supposed to, but brink of death only protects you against one attack so the remaining 3 would blow right through the rest of your stack

[young mango]

So I was right in my assumption? Very neat

[strange gale]

there's little to no mechanical benefit to doing that, but clearing all of the gates makes the run more satisfying imo

[young mango]

speaking of dreadknight stuff

I think TAG1 restoration mods are so silly, it’s straight up herd mentality, the enemy changes were not that bad, nobody has ever made a restoration for TAG2 or campaign like that, it’s so peculiar, like stuff was NOT changed that badly

like a lot of people will collectively just agree that the changes were bad for some reason, and it’s gotten to the point where people are regurgitating the opinion without ever having actually played the release version of TAG1

[strange gale]

i love release patch turrets ! i love forced 2 cycles !

[austere bronze]

often when someone is glad they did tag1 on UN, someone will go "I did tag1 UN before 6.0, it was much much harder then, so im way better than you!!"

[young mango]

TAG1 restoration mod makers when they like pb faltering marauders and dread knights doing normal damage: the balancing was PERFECT at TAG1s release and they just had to fuck it up

[strange gale]

yeah i'm aware you could modswap cancel out of a sticky to get a one cycle and the 3 billion other jank/wasteful one cycles

[young mango]

I Can go change my version to 3.1/4.1 right now and do UN and verify it’s not that hard

[austere bronze]

i know it's basically not harder, but people like pretending that they're extremely good at the game

[strange gale]

i wonder why restoration modders never mess with shit that actually matters like the marauder pb falter, being a fairly late change

[young mango]

turrets were changed in the same patch as the marauder so it feels like something that is being ignored on purpose

[strange gale]

something something 5.0 agenda

[young mango]

and it’s very possible to change the marauders ai to be like that again, speedrun mod literally brought the ice bomb trick back lol

and now that idstudios a thing? virtually no excuse for people

[strange gale]

these people don't actually look at what was changed and assume that anything deviating from the release patch is a massive nerf

a bunch of tentacles got removed from blood swamps? that section still has the platform sticking out of the ground and no invisible wall to block standing on it so it was never supposed to be annoying

a possessed baron got swapped out for a hell knight? that guy shows up in a section of the level where the present verticality makes it hilariously easy to kite both while being at zero risk of getting hit

the opening section of uaca has less heavies now? if you weren't struggling with it to begin with then this makes no difference

complaining about that last bit is, if anything, a self-report

[young mango]

Removing a possessed Baron with 2-3 cueballs that do the 2000 damage to him each with an arena that has another possessed Baron right afterwards is totallyy a devastating change to the TAG1 balancing just trust me bro

removing a stand-alone possessed enemy should not be an issue that annoys people, and probably falls under that “self report” category again