#doom-eternal
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that, alongside some new gameplay features not being shown yet, made me think Eternal was originally going to be more or less the same as 2016 but with more variety
More ammo in Eternal would've been wild
We already have a lot of ammo
At least for the normal campaign
de with vanilla balancing is already busted, imagine if chainsaw was still a 50% refill of every ammo pool WITH 2018 ammo caps
2016 you mean?
talking about the 2018 demo footage of doom eternal
ohhh mb
I kinda want the classic ammo system back where it's more focused on ammo on Map as pickups, and you don't really have a weapon that magically shits out ammo.
Wouldn't be surprised if Dark Ages is somewhat heading back to something like that
I hate resource management
Because then my gameplay late level is negatively impacted by mistakes I made half an hour ago
Games should be fun
As someone who usually plays impatiently I like resource management, trains me to actually think
The resource management you have to do on Classic Doom WADs is quite fun.
In Eternal, I hardly consider it resource management because you can basically fully restack with just a button or two whenever you want
But if I have bad aim or am not as familiar with the weapons then I’m hosed later.
Which is why I like eternal more than 2016
you hate Eternal?
I understand that. I like the game being hard and making you learn and practice
Even walking into a boss with low health doesn’t doom you to spending 3 hours fighting that boss hitless in Eternal
plays game where you have to aim
mad you can't aim well
It's not the game's fault lol
I’m ok with learning. But I don’t want to have my later gameplay suck due to early gameplay mistakes
I don't think I ever spent 3 hours on a 2016 boss but fair enough I suppose
It’s not about fault. I want consequences to be based on how I’m playing right now and not how I played an hour ago
You can get back your resources in less than a minute, what do you mean an hour ago
Wait what
Maybe not a boss. But any hard thing, if you hit a checkpoint with low health then for next while you have to play like 10x as good just to survive
In 2016? You have to find resources
I mean true, but that's what makes it fun
Is this about Eternal or 2016? I'm super confused now
I think he's saying he prefers Eternal because he can restack for free
I hated walking into a fight low on resources because I used up all my resources earlier in the level, whether it be ammo or health. Because then it changes how I have to play the game, compared to if I could easily atone for my sins and get those resources back.
Ah yeah, okay then
Personally I like that
Well I've already shown I don't have the full story in my head, so I won't argue further. Have fun, gentlemen
The thesis was “I hate resource management”
On a first playthrough?
You like spending forever trying to do a hard thing hitless on your first run through?
I mean that didn't really happen to me on my first playthrough ever on 2016, as I didn't play on Nightmare at first
I know Ultra Violence can be kinda like that too, but not as extreme.
But my first playthrough of 2016 was on Hurt Me Plenty.
Regardless of difficulty you can end up low on resources
I guess? Health drops from enemies are quite high on low difficulties on 2016.
It's only really armor that's hard to restore.
On Nightmare, yeah enemies drop much lower amounts of health when dying.
But you can still survive through the edge of your teeth if you persevere
Hm you may be right. After all, I managed several replays of 2016 despite being bad at resources. So the easy levels must have been at least somewhat forgiving
Well yeah I'd personally move it to #doom-2016
Also you don't have to be straight up hitless. It's just hits are super punishing on Nightmare in 2016
I was talking about hitless due to walking into a fight on low health
Probably general would be better, as it seems to be a comparison of both games
Or darkages because it stemmed from your comment about that
Wait what?
That’s why we’re talking about resource management. You wanted ammo pickups on the map
Aw fuck I found my first Marauder
how'd it go?
Watchin the cutscene
Probably not well
God damn they are cool
Aaand there it is, E1M1 Hangar, remade by BloodShot1 (not the speedrunner BloodShot9001). The in-game level actually doesn't have the classic music, it has the ARC Complex music for now, but I muted it and opened the "Doom (PC) - At Doom's Gate (E1M1) Music EXTENDED" video on Youtube just to fit the vibe. Regular Melee punches actually do damage...
This is fucking epic
why'd you assume so?
I thought that was still this chat? Not from Dark Ages?
ye
Cuz they’re dumb
How are they dumb?
We are gonna get doom 1 and 2 campaigns at this point
It was all in this chat. I said maybe if we were moving the discussion it should go to dark ages channel because it was about what we want that game to be like
It's not complete until we get Custom WAD levels from Sunder and Sunlust and Plutonia 2
yes, but that doesn't mean that they're hard
Got 100% on ARC too
Lol
This kinda gives me 2016 SnapMaps vibes in terms of aesthetics
A non-damage window. Bad timing. Bad physics. Just all of it.
wdym "bad timing"?
Hey guys, recommend a good graphics mod.
So... it requires timing? Knowing attack patterns?
Depends
Sometimes they go awhile without flashing. Overall, fighting a marauder breaks the combat cycle that the game created, where you’re constantly moving and airborne and killing demons.
I wonder how plutonia 2 in eternal would be. 30 marauders,50 archviles, 100 cyberdemons, spirits and shit roaming around
Unbalanced piece of mod
I use a BFG 10K to blow a hole in Mars? Knew Ranger and Doomguy knew each other
What do you mean?
I agree, but the first issue can be solved easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3NVCuOBEc
Cause the BFG 10K was in Quake... oh it was QII. Hm.
Yeah
Never mind then.
They'd call it Plutonia Eternal and have a bunch of possessed Tyrants, possessed Archviles, and possessed Chaingunners monster closets and stage terraforming
It would be nice if the holt gate had such a clean engagement area
it makes it easier to have elevation and stuff, but it takes a bit longer
still the same thing though
Hmm would be interesting if someone makes an actual Chaingunner (from doom2) instead of the one we got
he will go in for green eye attacks just as consistently
We probably will get it with mods
Ohh boy we are in for a treat
Its gonna be a mess with the new stuff in new levels ngl
Now imagine if DII Archviles are restored and possessed
Shit forgot about that
The reason your clip is so neat is because you’re able to easily stay at mid-to-far distance. Most engagements with that Marauder in the Holt gate limit your ability to distance yourself while still maintaining line of sight. You get shotgunned at close range and he doesn’t flash.
Game would have to store recent kills somewhere, sounds easy enough on a surface level I guess
this does not happen if you give him space
My point is there’s not a lot of space in holt gate
there is a ton of space
yes the arena is jank but there's still plenty of practically flat stretches
Not lengthwise
Adding “setup the high-maintenance opponent for a perfect approach” to an already long list of priorities at the end of the hardest gate in the game. I call that difficult
It's doable on nightmare
I think it was a little easier than before right?
I can think of 2 appropriate stretches in that gate. 1. The alcove with the Archie’s and 2. The bridge
Maybe 3 the pit
They really be handing you ammo and health with all the stuff you can do to get them
Not that I'm complaining
Killing the first 2 archies makes it a lot easier.
does something actually happen or is it false hope
I’m not saying do it while the Archie’s are alive lol
Ohh
I’m saying this is the only demon where you can’t just kill him where he stands
Even the other window demons don’t require handholding
the mobile turret one cycle:
Doesn’t require setup or waiting for a flash?
U can kinda make it a little faster with f-ballista (could mess up in the middle) or maybe a lock on to stagger him
I think it's patched
What
guaranteed kill off of one flash
Are u talking about the possessed marauder or something else?
My point stands then. “Can’t just kill him where he stands” means I have to bait him like a dog before the opportunity to engage him.
wasn't that patched?
you could probably do lock on into mt to get a technical 0 cycle
Exactly
Yes. Idk what f is. And you can’t LOB a marauder to stun him
Feet ballista
shield:
flame belch:
I thought they patched out splash damage for him
What
Well the lob basically makes him put his shield in whatever direction the rockets are coming from and you can stagger him by shooting a ballista.
good usage of shield and flame belch trivializes it
I think I attempted that forever ago. Even if possible I call it difficult.
I know he is fast than a normal marauder but it works
It kinda works for me. Just sometimes
you have to mod swap cancel to pull this off, still pretty easy though
Trivializes having to guide the marauder to one of three appropriate engagement areas while maintaining medium distance from him?
I have a pretty shiitty laptop but I still did it
That’s above my skill level. I don’t even have modswap mapped
Is it your first time doing it?
source?
skip to 1:14 to see how you can do the exact same thing in the slayer gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYZKBmpHXnE
Punch swapping mods is way faster. Sylar did an amazing video on it
No I think I’ve done that gate several times at this point. I can’t remember if I ever succeeded on NM tho
I wonder how the imp feels after getting directly hit by the bfg with quad damage
Just dies lmao
Doesn’t
Not as bad as the slayer's glory kill or blood punch
Hm alright fair. So the question is, is something that must be learned considered easy because it can be learned?
ive tried fballista on marauders and it doesn’t work
Yeah I thought they got rid of splash damage for rockets and stickies at least, on the marauder
I do have a question, how do I do slob exactly?
Ask YouTube
Faster lock on
The video walks you through it
I wasn't unable to pull it off so I decided to ask here
A quick answer would be nice
Oh so you already basically know how but need pointers?
What have I done? Forgive me, remote detonation...
In this small guide I show you a brand new lock-on technique which achieves two important results:
- by using this tech you can fire a very fast lock-on burst with some more extra damage from the precision bolt and a regular rocket (potentially also a sticky bomb)
- you can double lock onto t...
Heyden: "You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars."
i recorded this after 6.66 rev 1 (nov 24, 2021) and i highly doubt they'd bother patching out random shit like this that almost nobody knows about https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/913125209647751188/mt.mp4
Maybe provide a clip of attempting it. I remember using the beginning of Nekravol 2 for practice. I ended up giving up on mastering it but I got good feedback
I am not really using my computer now, but yea will try it
he consistently brings up the shield everytime I try
it's very spacing dependent
doesn't work point blank for that very reason
in the clip i maintain a range where the ai prioritizes spamming the same attack over and over
That weapon isn’t supposed to stun him what’s going on
If you couls watch, his eyes turned green
hm yeah, I managed to get it now
In the marauder instructions it says only some weapons can stun him
possessed marauders have way lower falter thresholds than their regular counterparts
this works only because the devs chose to let it
he wasn't stunned, he was simply faltered
What’s the difference in this game
Faltering is where they receive enough damage to knock themselves back a bit before continuing what they were doing
and a stun is way longer
Ok that’s what I meant then. I meant the turret isn’t supposed to falter the marauder
It clearly is supposed to
it does that because somebody at id typed in the values that make this possible
It would've been cool if we got a cyberdemon with makyr tech instead of uac
Ooh what if near the end of the game we get different demons with makyr tech instead of hell tech
i wish eternal had more bosses ngl
Yeah
Already has the most out of any DOOM
True
true
but holy hell do i find em fun
i keep finding myself replaying gladiator and icon of sin
ehhh
The hell worms from 2016 is prob the best doom boss in my opinion
It'd be cool if fast travels points were permanent, so if you use level select you can just get back to it (or can you already do that @austere bronze?)
That's so based
you can't do that
hell guards are also sick
L design
...yeah, that's the Hell Guards
Based
What if the icon of sin healed himself with the demons in eternal
Impossible boss fight
yea i was agreeing
I also completely agree, my fave boss from that game
It's the final boss who's mere presence distorts reality
We all agree that the kahn makyr was fumbled right?
If you had him heal with all the demons, it'd either be a BFG spam boss fight, or just not fun at all, straight up impossible basically
He wouldn't heal much just some
There's so many demons it'd still be a lot of his health bar at once
It would start at the second phase and he would do it like twice
That's fair enough then
Tda better have the mother demon somewhere or ima crashout
For real
How are you so confident it wasn’t an oversight? Again, the ability to do that is contraindicated by the in game tutorial dialog box
I bought doom eternal on sale for 10 bucks installed the 90 gigs, but for some reason it says i need to buy the campaign and the part 1 of the gods thing
I think you might have only bought tag 2💀
You only bought TAG 2. Refund what you bought and buy either Standard Edition or Deluxe Edition.
There's also the chance the base game and TAG1 DLCs are not installed. Check your owned DLCs tab in Eternal.
it says that i bought doom eternal and the 2nd dlc
But does it say you bought DOOM Eternal (Campaign)?
DOOM Eternal is the launcher. you need DOOM Eternal (Campaign) to launch the campaign from there
that makes more sense
ID really needs to put the Standard and Deluxe editions of the game on the top of the page at this point
Hope we get another hub world like the fortress of doom cause its a cool idea imo
I thought I was fighting regirock from pokemon when I first saw the hellguard lol
I was referring to this ^
Ah
We’re here now
Well I’m not really
Does the slayer know any martial arts or is he just physically that guy
He was a soldier so I would assume he knows some
Good question 
He likely does. To reach the higher-level teams in the Marines he’d have to be an absolute unit at hand-to-hand and everything else
I don’t remember what his actual military career was though. Someone with lore info want to chime in on that?
Can someone help my controller isn’t working for steam doom eternal
They should add keyboard and mouse support for the xbox if they can
why would they if selling controllers earns them more money
Does anyone know how the series thing works? Like the series with cosmetic packs, I've seen that some barely come out, and others instead are repeated a lot.
Other games have support tho. I think Halo does. I thought Doom just doesn’t support it
During a three month period, a pile of goodies are available. As you gain xp, you earn more and more of the goodies, which you can then use
It's up to devs to do it, and considering D+D2 just came out with kbm support and it's a first-party title, this is easily not the case
it's up to the devs to do it
yeah up to the console devs to just allow native support directly instead of relying on every single devteam individually trying to make the console allow it 🤷♀️
yes, I know that, but I am referring to the fact that there are series that almost never appear, especially the first ones, 1,2,3, etc.
I'll give you that, that's true
yo can anyone help me and my friend get the battle mode achievs?
well, we only need the 200 kills one so
should be somewhat fast
Chat, is there anything bad about transfiguration other than that it makes the Maykrs ugly or was their entire reason to exterminate the entirety of Earth just because they didn't wanna be ugly?
I'm 1 Slayer Key away from the Unmakyr
Same
You on Taras Nabad?
You know, I like the marauder's design, but I think the marauder should have had more variety with it's skins where each marauder was more unique and different.
I'm unable to show any pictures of what I wanted, but just search up the marauder's early design concept art and you'll see what I mean.
How would that work? The console would just allow any device to act as a controller, and the console would include software that allowed mapping of any device to the controller buttons? Sounds like no matter what, someone has to do more work.
There are plenty of amazing concepts that unfortunately went unused and could have added a lot more variety to doom eternal.
Oh I don’t have any information on how the rotation works sorry. Just that it rotates.
I also think with each different design they have their own unique attacks.
But I know they couldn't really go all out and I'm still quite happy with eternal's final product.
even if it did work like that, the system would have to be completely reworked if it were modded to be constantly active, fast travel works by teleporting you to that part of the level, and nothing more, meaning if there’s an encounter that hasn’t been been completed yet, if you hit the trigger for it, it will still begin
don't worry, in fact I took the opportunity to do some research, I believe that these series no longer appear in the events, I think you can only buy them.
I imagine if they had some time in the oven for it, it'd work
It's not really a massive loss or anything, but it'd be cool
I like to replay the Icon of Sin fight, but don't really want to go through aaall of Final Sin each time
Me too. They should really add a 'skip to end' feature to eternal.
Yeah but I play on console, the fps isn't set that high.
^ me too, though not sure if this is FPS dependent, not a speedrun guy
On console.
You can still meathook swing pretty good on console but not as good as it is on that video.
it is true that the consoles low framerate cap can contribute to a multitude of speedrun tech becoming impossible/impractical, and there are alternatives to this that can provide ALMOST the same amount of skippage as this one, albeit at a higher bar of execution
My biggest issue with the strat is that I suck, I will not pull it off ever even if my life depended on it
I know the Mod Portal is already in beta on PC, but does anyone genuinely believe in any form it could come to console? I've been very hopeful since March and I've been counting every day just to wait until it comes out. I'm desperate for co-op Horde and deathmatch on Xbox
Hard to say. I've seen a lot of games with mod support that don't support console still. I don't want to say the same for doom eternal, but it's in beta still. So we will see.
I haven’t done this in like a year so I’m bad at that fight
Time for the last Slayer Gate on Taras Nabad
Okay that was like... kinda easy
Third try
Difficulty?
Nightmare
Good job!
Thanks 
Probably gonna regret using two sentinel batteries to get the classic doomguy outfit and not opening the rest of the fortress up
Nah you get like 20 of em you good
I wanted the drip so badly
What level you on?
I just finished the cultist base
Already having a fun time with the game so far
Im pretty sure im gonna end up liking this way more than 2016 even if I suck at it lol
What difficulty?
Hurt me plenty
I have so many options and its a bit hard to use all of them in one fight I've died a few times in combat but 1 ups are a thing now so
What do you struggle with?
Idk how to specifiy it
I guess just dashing into enemies sometimes or using guns for the wrong demons occasionally ig
I wanna know how to chain all of my tools effectively or somethin is what I wanna do
sup
Come brothers, let Hell tremble before our might!
Let's co-op in original doom tmrrw
gotta show how to do it fr
The creators of the console device making a mouse and keyboard work with it like any pc, something the consoles are, is a whole lot less effort then every single game developer doing it individually
Congratulations on completing the game on the hardest difficulty mode. You are one true slayer!
What do u think of it
It's just so...
PEAK
relatable
One of the best Shooters I have played
indeed
Minecraft bow PvP>>
Rip and tear, until it is DONE
Eternal is a really fun game
Very fun game, I have Ancient Gods 1 and 2
And you can dump a ton of hours into it
Maybe I should play it? But I am exhausted
I have 100 in 2016
My brain just turned to mush
Got 30 in Eternal
As a whole I probably have like ~170 hours in the DOOM series as a whole
I love how the Slayer was already busted even as a mortal
I have over a month of playtime total in the series
I have 710 hours in it, 703 of those are from Eternal
Which isn't a lot
And a traitor makyr was like "let's make him even more busted"

Slayer casually taking a cyberdemon rocket to the face (he's still got 53 hp)
Pulls out Crucible
Slayer casually punching a zombie (he's still got 99.5% of his HP left)
It's rather strange that the melee doesn't do damafe
It does deal 1 damage... which is basically 0
But I guess the Bloodpunch mechanic is probably the reason
"You can't just blow a hole into the surface of Mars."
"But I will
"
Since the Bloodpunch is an AOE melee
And I've noticed can remove some demons from the face of the earth
Yea the blood punch is really nice
Especially pinkies
Cyber Mancubi get stunned from it iirc
Ye I usually do a SSG grapple into punch
And then just beat the shit out of them
Okay wait so if empowered demons are demons that have killed players around the globe
Does that mean revenant is a really nasty threat at higher difficulties? I swear I saw so many empowered revenants
Nah revenant just takes two sticky bombs really
that is if you hit both the turrets
I usually just freeze them and go in for a meat hook
I can't not use the SSG in Eternal
Grapple on a Shotgun
Bit of a waste of an ice bomb if it's just one
Dopamine Receptors firing
Like I usually only use the SSG sometimes
1x lock on rockets for minimal kill effort lol
Revenants are not a threat
Ye, but it's usually my first instinct for some reason
I see revenant
I meat hook
I freeze
"Fuck you"
Definitely haven't played enough Claasic
Actually wait no I do this to whiplash actually
Not the revenant
Lock on
I just use super shotgun or sticky bomb + precision bolt quick switching on then. Ballista if needed for range. You can usually take out both weak points doing ballista + precision bolt quickly. I usually do that and then finish them off with full auto
Full auto is a fun way to finish off enemies in a combo. At least to me.
We're talking about Eternal... in the Eternal chat
Will I ever actually encounter the Tyrants outside of Slayer gates?
Yes
I have seen zero so far
Ye, but I just have a burning hatred for whiplash so it's Funnier to disintegrate them with the SSG
I know lol. Just jesting
They take two shots, don't they?
Whiplashes takes 2 shots to die from the ssg yes
Wait I thought they take 1?
I hit one point blank and it disintegrated, hmm I probably damaged maybe before I ssg'd it
Rocket into SSG
Ssg damage: 1600 (you won't hit every pellet on a whiplash,so even less damage)
Whiplash HP: 2000
An ice grenade makes demons take 25% extra damage
But hitting every pellet on a whiplash is not really realistic
I can test it if you want
ok, it is possible, but it's kinda hard to pull off since you need to be at the right angle, aim very precisely and walk as far into the whiplash as possible
Doom 3 moment
I found it possible to only pull off if you aim precisely here
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1276181237446348930/Desktop_2024.08.22_-_16.05.04.03.mp4?ex=66c897e5&is=66c74665&hm=e6e96feddd345a2a8e4d472dbffecfc2bcdebffc1d5265424c9f17f0a4ca1678&
Dam fr?
I will do this to enact my hatred on whiplashes
I thought they were more resistant when frozen
with the upgrade frost bite
just shoot them with anything and then do a ssg shot, it's way easier
Yeah I can kill them with lock on
Is the combat shotgun still good even after getting the ssg?
I just thought it would be more amusing or funnier to just blow them to bits using the ssg
yes it is
The rocket launcher is so fun to use aswell
headshots with the sticky bombs deal good damage, sticky bombs are easy to throw into combos, they deal with fodder easily and have good splash damage
I can watch as heavy demons get destroyed with a single lock on
WAIT STICKY BOMBS DO HEADSHOT DAMAGE?
yes, when you headshot with sticky bombs they deals more than double damage
Woah! I didn't know that!
Thanks for the tip!
it ranges from 820-960 damage and their normal damage is 400
only deals 410 damage against mancs and cyber mancs though
How hard are master levels?
they range from barely harder than a base game level to way harder
I just tried one- I just got hit with a tyrant 10 seconds in
World spear master level?
probably super gore nest
Dont worry the tyrant's the worst part of sgn ml
we're just lying now?😭
Yeha
It gets even more fun :>
yup, they're great
Start with mars core
i fucking love lying
i love spreading misinformation to torment others
I'm new to eternal so you guys lying makes it worse for me 😭
Also INVISIBLE WHIPLASHES
sillyman is, not me lol
it's quite silly of sillyman to lie
im not a good person to ask these questions
turns out im just a naturally gifted slayer lol
Lier*
that too.
Did someone say silly
me
did someone say frying pan to the face?
Try it
turns out, the pan is unblockable, so you still get smacked
Nuh uh
I mean. Nuh. Uh.
I'm in second level of DOOM Eternal and i cannot jump to the last island in hell, can someone help me please
Please help
Huh?
what are you on about
The super gore nest has 5 tyrants
no
In one area
it does have 4 in the final arena
I did that mission on Hurt me plenty
If i attempt to do that Mission any harder I might suffer catastrophic brain malfunction
can you send a video of the problem?
do you guys think Serious Sam maps could work with Eternal's gameplay?
I had to look up what you said about "Serious Sam" and that is the most comedic yet kinda badass thing ever
DOOM Eternal 1GB on Xbox update, anyone know what it is?
Yeah anyone know what the update entitled?
Wondering the same
I’m gonna guess bug fixes
Their not gonna make anymore features accept the mod that’s in beta on steam or Microsoft store unknown if console gets it
There’s nothing different that I see as soon as I loaded in I’m highly positive it’s just bug fixes
Everything seems the same to me
Another thing I think it could be but I find it very rare to happen is the update was to prepare mod support for doom eternal on console but that would be very unlikely
Even the FAQ of mods on doom eternal didn’t answer our question if mod support is coming to console
Sorry but I can tomorow
Hi
k
PC patch notes from 2 weeks ago say "This minor update removes the marketing email opt-in checkbox from the Bethesda.net account creation flow, Umbra logo on legal notices splash screen and other minor changes", could be just a release of that on console
Hey I’m going out for lunch and I’m not going back home till after
Guess we’ll have to see until we see it in #game-updates
Revision 3 was not announced there, that channel is dead
Oh didn’t know until now
How many missions are there?
13 in base campaign, 3 in TAG 1, 4 in TAG 2 (though 4th one in TAG 2 is just a boss level)
Only game with less levels than it is 2016, so
Oh wow that's very short
It's a pretty decent length IMO
Takes like 22 hours or something to beat every mission for the first time
And then you got all the master levels
Jesus
I mean I'm not complaining really I sunk 30 hours Into the base game
Also the game was on sale for 75% so I'm having a blast
I might return to BALDURS GATE III for a bit because my brain has been turned to mush
With time you'll just go on autopilot whenever you play Eternal
Eternal for 10$ is an amazing deal
I bought 2016
I was GONNA replay it for secrets but that game destroys my sense of direction
Like I genuinely cannot for the life of me navigate the map because it looks the same to me
Lol, you do have a point
Also I am the worst person in this server to have ever been graced with a mouse because my aim is terrible, I'm sure overtime I'll get better but rn I'm BAD
Lower your sensitivity
Often people use a sensitivity too high, and if you have bad aim, that's an even larger incentive to lower it
Did anyone just get an update for doom eternal?
If by "just" you mean a few weeks ago, then hes
I can't because my desk is really small
I have played on high sens for years because my desk is smoll
Is it that small?😭
Yes, I don't wanna show it but
Yes...
Also the keyboard is way to big for its own good because my uncle was the PC's previous owner
And he had big hands
Ah :/
I unfortunately have very small hands
Even though my whole family has big hands

This is not very sigma
I suppose I have kinda smoll hands
I'm 5'4
You're probably taller than me
Well... Most people are...
I'd genuinely swap height with you if I could lol
Why
I want to be short
How
If your taller
Yea, but i want to be shorter
Therefore you can reach things better
The only goodside of being short is that people tend to call me cute
True, but it's still worth it
Even though... I'm a dude but I'll take it I guess
I always play the tank in any game
Me fr
Leauge for example
Please don't touch that game btw
Absolute opposite here, especially in Eternal
Based
I mean in eternal you're basically a tank and a glass cannon
Not if you remove flame belch, chaingun shield and the equipment launcher ;)
I am a glass cannon
And increase damage to the player
I do not want to anger you
You are a menace
Oh that's not all of my restrictions lol
No glory kills I take it
Everything is: no super weapons, hammer, flame belch, equipment launcher, rocket launcher mods, destroyer blade, chaingun and the only rune allowed is savagery
On top of that I always use infinite tokens (meaning demons can attack however often they want)
But tbf, usually infinite tokens makes 0 difference
Infinite tokens?
Tokens are something demons use when they attack, if all tokens are gone they have to wait for new ones to regenerate before attacking again
Higher difficulty=more tokens
Melee attacks consume no tokens
Haha

I just kinda like to torture myself in Eternal
I frequently play with 2x speed on demons
You should try league if you truly hate yourself
This emoji is so goated

you could kill them faster if they didn't balance doomguy and just put his lore version lmao
He was busted before as a mortal
no I mean he could've easily just used his hands rather than guns
And he's even more busted after that Maykr gifted him
Nope, he could not
he uses guns cause he likes it tho
He used guns to survive the attack on the Tara
And even in the murals and depictions he used guns because he has to
well that part yeah
I mean, he could probably just run around like a guy on drugs and be fine, but he can't really kill demons without guns
Just like me fr
(No)
What how
Oh
Okay short person
wait how tall are you
Like
Yeah but I like my height
Between 2-8 feet
This is like saying you're a toddler or taller than shaq
I need to do height shortening surgery fr
No
nuh uh being tall is better
Yeah, maybe I was a bit too specific
Specific? You said 2 to 8 feet
Almost everyone thinks that, except me😭
Yes, specific
Very specific
are you like 6'2
He probably is
Or she?
I dunno I'm guessing they have to be very tall to actually want to be short like me
M1 is a guy
i'm like 6'4 
Okay 🌲
(I keep hitting my head to the lamp accidently)
Okay 🦗
Icon of Sin
Okay 🌴
The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it becomes.
60 dollar soundtrack with free game!111`
Sounds like Guilty Gear
I still have a chronic addiction to the soundtrack
might be very too late to ask this but can't they literally just seperate them and just make the game free

You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars!! Local man too angry to die!!! Anime is temporary DOOM is Eternal!!!!@!!!!!
If you want to survive a day in the DOOM fanbase, you do not want to mutter what I said
masterchief solos doom slayer!
Talking about holes in the surface of Mars will basically get you executed on sight
What about holes in the surface of mars
You have no idea how painfully overused that quote is
Isn't the largest volcano recorded on Mars? I mean volcanoes are holes
You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars...
😟
I mean it's funny line
But I didn't realize it's been so overused
It was funny, but it's at this point painful to hear
Same for the following:
Some form of "DOOM is Eternal"
"60 dollar soundtrack with free game"
"The longer the Icon of Sin stays on Earth"
"LOCAL MAN TOO ANGRY TO DIE"
The latter is from Russianbadger isn't it?
I have no idea
he used it as the title, but that sentence has been used for doom for a while.
especially for 2016
I think that title perfectly in capsulates the slayer
He's just too angy too die :3

too angry to die
still dies
Kaboom
hey man the player just aint as angry as him
💥
i am tho, because i am awesome
Don't forget he canonically died
Wait what
Have you played the first game?
Yes, he gets trapped at the end of E1M8.... and killed
Because in the logs it said that he was suffering in silence
E1M8?
Codex? Whatever they say, nope, he died, that's how the events of E2 happen
The longer the soundtrack in the surface of mars, the stronger the hole will let me help you to see
Episode 1 Map 8
Cancerous message
Hm?
im gonna doom your eternal i swear to god
Wait can you elaborate i'm very confused
I'll ask again... have you played the first game?
2016 or THE VERY first
Your fight is eternal
Why would I be referring to the 6 or 7th one as the first lol
doom 1, for the microwave
Also ym
Ooooh
I mean the very first
Because 2016 was a relaunch and not a sequel
It is literally a sequel but okay man
It's not a 'relaunch', it's a reboot, a reboot that connects with the older games
Not every reboot has to cut everything behind it off
No, I'm afraid I haven't played DOOM 1
i relaunched doom 2016 into space
You sure about that? I thought there were discrepancies
Well, he dies in one of the levels of DOOM 1993, that's how he ends up in Hell
it came back after 8 days and punched me in the face
The exact happenings between 64 and 2016 are not exactly made clear, but it is a sequel
Ooooh interesting and so he just goes on a rampage killing the demons that killed him on earth?
man wouldnt it be swell if we had a game that takes place between 64 and 2016
It’s still common enough that you didn’t need to ask “why would I be talking about 2016”. It was not a bad clarification to request
Not rampage, he tries to escape. First game is more about defense than anything
Interesting
Well I'm sorry that I was referring to the first game as the first, Quantum doesn't need you to stand up for him as it was clear my message was lighthearted and nothing bad came out of it
"the first game" is a pretty clear message m8
Don't try to play defender of something you aren't involved in
I really don't feel like arguing over such a small insignificant thing
Also is it me or is the Nekravol is an inspiration to the Tower of Babel?
it was supposed to be the tower of babel.
I shouted like "IS THAT THAT THE TOWER OF BABEL" when I first saw it
until the team got hit with the good ol....."shit we running out of time"
I watched the first Star Trek movie the other day. Which one did I watch?
hell you can look at the steam cards and it is there
What is happening, me very confused it is 2am
It's nothing, I don't want to drag this on
You watched garbage
My mental state rn
I hate the pain elemental toy
I used the Ballista and it takes 2 shots
Is that the one halfway down a well
ye
I hate it too. Need help?
I need to sleep
I think that's a sign I have to sleep. I keep skipping words
Raaaagh
I can get it

Not if I do first
I had to watch a guide for the pain elemental toy because I couldn't see a ledge anywhere
Until I realized that it's a very small window to dash
Why sleep when you can doom eternal
M1, check your undername
Shhh😭
You ain’t slick bro
The longer the hole is on the surface of mars, the stronger the doom will eternal
I tried that Mr. Tall Person Man Slayer
I almost flunked my exam
I'm just tired literally all the time
Please do refer to me as Mr. Amazing Guy
No, I'm calling you tall person
And I’m Mr. Awesome Guy
Refer to him as Mpreg1
Cuz I’m awesome, god I’m so cool
Slayer is short tho
That is harrowing
I will not take your suggestion
AnomeQ…
Says the Omori fan
I'm not even that tall😭
Just a bit above average where I live
What's that supposed to mean
I’m sorry anomeQ, but you deserve it
I did not get the reference
No like genuinely what do you mean
You like a game where you ||get to dissect a cat|| but do not like Mpreg1...
WHAT THE FUCK
Just got the toy :3
Oh come on you guys clearly haven't seen general on the 16th of August 2024
Oh- wait what?
Welcome to Black Space
What?
Oh- I never did that
Because yeah no shit I am not doing that
Dead space’s weird cousin
I like the part where he says “it’s dooming time” and then dooms all over the place
Get a blanket Mr. Awesome Guy
No, I like sleeping while feeling nothing but the cold frigid air
Long story short the game is about depression and the main character is stuck within his subconscious. He has a secret and that manifests through (self-die) tendencies. The phrase of the cat is actually not real but a manifestation of the main characters trauma
Mostly because I have been stuck in the frozen north for about 2 days
The cat isn't real but the dissecting sure is
Long story short: If you're a therapist and an Omori fan walks in, you're scoring big
So when does he meet the guy from hollow knight
Lmfaoo
The cat is alive and dead at the same time
Yeah- I never did that because I guess there's a metaphoric sense to it because it's a manifestation. It's kinda fucked up but that game is fucked up in it of itself
One more sentinel battery until I've gotten everything
No more cat dissections in the channel!
You the mofo who brought it up
And I'm the one to end it, like those cheesy hero quotes
What if it’s a demon cat
You are cheese
Ym tbh
That's not very cash money of you
Moral of the story, Omori is weird, don't play it, the end
I've seen the community
Oh wow really?
Yeah, you're right on like 50% of it
You think a bunch of doom fans will take a moral from a story?
I thought I was in general for a minute lmao so confused
Unironically I'm not even joking he's actually right about that one
Basically the same for the DOOM community tbf
Violence solved his problems why cant they solve mine?
I feel like Omori is a pretty hot topic so
Exactly
That DOOM Eternal game, huh?
I’m not depressed!…mostly
Easy mistake to make with this topic😭
I just witnessed one be really mean and bring two very uncomfortable topics. This is very funny
I don't even know what the topic is
Yeah, I am very normal (mostly)
You don't want to know
okie lol
To be fair, one was only for like 2 messages, and the other devolved 
Don't remember anyone being mean though
You bought up two of them okay!
So guys do you think doom slayer knows the Pythagorean theorem
Me neither
Yo, Jesus Christ is in da chat

I both hate and love how the master levels just go “oops, all marauders” or some crap
I'm feeling holy already
You'd love TAG 2
Can any of you guys help me with my battlemode milestones? tbh I just dont like doing them and if you need the battlemode milestones as well ill help you with them as well.
Not that many marauders for the most part, still overused though
why is Jesus Christ slaying demons
Steal some holy water and drink it
because im biblically accurate
Nah, I'd Castlevania
Well while we were talking I was fidgeting with some nail clippers, that could've went worse than it did
Well same with tyrants and carcasses and doom hunters etc.
Are you cutting your nails way too deep?
No, I accidentally half-closed it while it was on my skin
I just finished it lol. The two marauders with Screechers were terrible
Yikes
No spoilers, we got a newbie in the chat
Carcasses and doom hunters I support, should've been more doom hunters and maybe a bit morr carcasses in the MLs
Tyrants are definitely overused in some parts
Screechers?
Mee!
You're old
🤫
M1 catching bullets
Yuh uh
Yes😭
Oh💀
I meant the game old
How can one be digitally old
Doom Veteran
Idk, but I'll roll with it
Oh he for sure isn't a DOOM Veteran
I haven't even been playing DOOM for 1 year lol
I guess he's just really experienced
I also played the game when it immediately released
Still got 700+ hours on doom eternal 🥱
Okay wow I should fear you
Well yeah, he hasn't had a long experience but a huge one, quality over quantity
Boo, I've been playing it for 4 years 
I still suck
I mean M1 doing the challenges
He's really scary
I got a few mods left, which one should I max out?
The ones in question:
Full auto (8 points)
Precision Bolt (6 points)
Microwave beam (6 points)
Remote Detonate (9 points)
Arbalest (9 points)
Mobile Turret (9 points)
And people say 100% the game in 150 hours is impressive..or something I dunno
Terrifying even
Dang, my joke melted, L on my end
Good afternoon, I tried everything and can't defeat 2 Mauraders in DLC 2. Any cheats suggestions for Console PS5 play?
I love how absolutely useless the cacodemon is, one grenade and he’s out of the board
precision bolt is real good
Yew, I am incredibly intimidating, especially irl
(I'm not)
There's so many conversations here at once
Cacodemon at this point should be ambient demon
Your room is more intimidating
Git gud
You're tall, I already fear tall people
Absolutely not
Not until he sneaks up and swallows you whole
pb, arbalest, mobile turrets, microwave beam(for when you play TAG).
Seriously, 19 marauder body pillows?
Don't remember what the upgrades do, but precision bolt mastery is decent
Guess I'll finish PB then
In TAG you hace everything maxed already...
You have 19 Maurader body pillows M1?
Oh yeah duh
I wish 😭
And M1 isn't sharing?
Loll
Hoarder
I forget things

Bro trying to keep a low profile
I saw your room M1, it sure is something
Dude, can you even buy marauder stuff
You just like me fr
(A failing memory)
On the black market
It isn't😭😭
(What'd you see?)
Cmon I already sold you some of the stuff on there
Guys is the Icon of Sin more powerful than the Dark Lord? Cause the game sure made it seem like it?
…you don’t wanna know
No?
no
I think the icon of sin is still under the dark lord
Omg Jesus, big fan
I love the final sin level but the boss fight itself is so boring
Dark Lord in game is easier
It's because Samuel was hyping him up and he's not talking to you by TAG 1's second level
but lore wise definitely not
Yuh uh, I feel like I'm exploring an entirely new room when you tell me stuff about my room, it's truly amazing
Still can’t over the fact that’s a bug
Yes
Maxed PB what should I do next
Schrodinger's M1 Bedroom
Like, the Icon of Sin’s immortal and can only be permanently incapacitated by a crucible sword and his sheer presence outside of Hell could destroy reality. While the Dark Lord was killed by a regular blade
Schrödinger*
Wait what, what bug
He is not immortal
I'm dumb
I think if he stayed on earth long enough he could become stronger
And it's not permanent either
The dark lord is weak in the form doomguy fought him in
The amount of times Samuel talks about “the longer the icon of sin..” was a bug
Yes. Ignore the people saying "no."
Oh that’s a bug?
Wasn’t the whole point of getting the crucible because it’s the only thing that can kill a titan AKA the Icon of Sin?
Yeah lol, they never fixed it
The Icon of Sin was much stronger than Davoth, at least in the form we fought him in TAG2. Davoth had lost his power and needed an Immoran mech to compensate for the fact that physically he stood no chance against the Slayer.
Cuz it became a meme
It freezes them, not kills them
You just don't have a superior swedish keyboard like me
The Icon, meanwhile, was a 200-foot-tall behemoth that innately caused apocalypses just by existing too long in a place.
I'm not swedish, also okay tall person
Actually I guess you did need a new weapon but do you need the hammer lore wise to beat dark lord?
That keyboard is prob from China…
Yeah that’s why I said permanently incapacitate earlier instead of kill
Shurup Ross😭
Not really.
It is not permanent either though
Eternal's Icon is the strongest monster you fight in the franchise, when going by physical strength and immediate threat.
Yes it can be removed but I’m talking in the sense of never removing it
Davoth isn't even in 2nd place.
Wasn’t davoth fight suppose to be like multiple phases with dragons and mechs but they had no time to implement it?
If you said incapacitate earlier why go back and say kill though
Yea, which is why you don't have a swedish keyboard
Quicker to type
Then it is gonna stay frozen yeah
Neither do you
They wanted Davoth to transform into a dragon but did not have the time to implement this.
Good. That sounds dumb.
Wtf that sounds kickass
They need the Maledict back so bad, sheesh
I still think Davoth he created an immortal being so i guess him and doom guy beat a titan bigger then icon with his fists which means he didnt technically need the crucible i guess.
Doom Slayer the Dragon Slayer? Hell yeah
God the Maledict was so fucking cool. What a kickass design and villain. Betruger rocks.
Wait who is above Davoth?
There's nothing saying Doomguy killed a Titan with his fists.
Speak your truth, I agree, probably my favorite villain
Probably gonna be a demon dragon in tda
The ancient gods
What did you think of Deathshead?
theres a lore entry from doom 2016 about it
title drop theme
davoth is just a bigger marauder
Wasn’t he and the Father the Ancient Gods?
I'm gonna play TAG 1-2 around 2 days from now for the first time and probably kill Cthulhu or something
ah nvm
The ancienter gods
Turns out…no.
In terms of "how strong is the demon you're fighting, within the context of a battle," then the Icon and probably the Aranea Imperatrix rank higher than him in TAG2. Davoth is functionally a human in TAG2; the Imperatrix was a formless psionic monster that turned into a giant spider cyborg.
im wrong
I'd leave now then, spoilers are arising
But Jesus is never wrong!
I've read them all like 12 times over; nothing says this. All it says is the Slayer fought the Great One, "and there the Titan fell."
It isn't confirmed how Doomguy killed the Great One that the Testament mentions.
My mind can't focus anyway it's 3 AM
Nuh uh
Bai bai everyone! :3
I'd still go though, spoilers are important to avoid at all costs
May you find success in everything you do!
Have fun with tag1!
And have tag2...
By the way, what’s so bad about transfiguration anyway? Other than it making the Maykrs ugly?
You too, sweet dreams, do not let the bed bugs eat you whole

