doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

That goes for all of TAG 2 as well imo

[rose thistle]

the last phase can mess you up a bit with all those summons ig

[azure oriole]

How do i switch accounts on Xbox doom eternal

I logged into the wrong account and have no progress and skins

[verbal bison]

I'm having serious issues on my game, it used to run at a consistent 110-120 fps, now it runs at 60-120 fps while dipping below 100 a lot. I removed all mods and the mod injector, even reinstalled it completely about 10 times, its installed on an ssd, and no other game on my steam library runs as bad as this, only doom eternal. I need serious help, if you guys could recommend some advice to fix it, or even reccomend a person or place to help me fix it because its gotten to the point where im genuinley clueless and have no idea what to do, and It might have to do something with my computer or something.

[azure oriole]

Does anyone know how to sign out of doom eternal

[echo palm]

I'll check. I'm on Switch, but it should work the same way.

[azure oriole]

Ty

[echo palm]

Maybe try the ACCOUNT HELP page in the Bethesda.net tab.

It's still loading for me, but their customer service could help.

If not, I know another way. Simply create a new email for a new Microsoft account, then go on your new alt account on the Xbox and enter the correct Bethesda information logging into DOOM.

[cyan sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1222399570793861130/IMG_9554.png?ex=66161350&is=66039e50&hm=daa66a6a368ab6ad535b18fcaa36822b5968d28678b1be2395d8ac5a5abafa27&
This gonna haunt me everytime on this cutscene from now on

[rose thistle]

LOL

[cyan sorrel]

Foking imp

[young mango]

not true, there’s only a certain amount of those that can exist at once, die enough times somewhere else and that one will cease to exist

[cyan sorrel]

Oh that nice

What if I didn’t die much anymore it wont gone

[young mango]

well I’m not entirely knowledgeable on these exactly, but die or not, they don’t last forever

some just disappear by playing it enough

[cyan sorrel]

Hopefully it will gone soon then cuz that happened yesterday

[young mango]

so you play UN, how good are you at the game, and would you ever consider getting into speedrunning? I would love to discuss it with somebody

[cyan sorrel]

Maybe in the future I think I still considered new

Just now reach 140 hour of playing

[young mango]

oh wow

you’re really spending your time efficiently, I didn’t have my first UN win until around 400 hours

[cyan sorrel]

I just repeating same map again and again after beat nightmare until I mastering quick swap

I haven’t try ballista boosting yet just now checking on it

Still got much to learn to maybe attempting speed running

[young mango]

well hey take your time, you can’t rush perfection

[cyan sorrel]

Yes everything need to practice maybe until next time I can start speed running ,new doom game alr out ( hopefully it will )

[verbal mantle]

As someone who wants be play that goofy ultra nightmare mode but sucks at nightmare mode yall got any tips?

[vale pebble]

don't play UN until you get good at Nightmare

[delicate knot]

Hello! Just figured I'd get opinions/thoughts from people that know Eternal. I'm visually impaired and honestly a bit slow, spatial and depth awareness are funky... I do have experience with other shooters, however!(Classic Doom, a bit of Doom 2016, Borderlands, Risk of Rain 2, BioShock, a very small amount of Warframe)
Do you think I'd be able to play the game? I tend to play on easier/lower difficulty settings, if that affects anything. Seen a couple reviews, and the game looks really fun and interesting! But I do worry about managing different mechanics at once and spatial awareness.

Basically, do you think that a very casual, visually disadvantaged person like me could figure out and enjoy the game?
(Note, I do NOT own the game yet, and only have a Nintendo Switch. Using this as a sort of "Before You Buy" idea.)

[echo palm]

OMFG JUST SCROLLED BY #doom-3 AND #690991771039039498 AND READ DOOM 34

My brain is a waffled scrambling of the butcher's night.

[echo palm]

(I'm putting this in my notes.)

[echo palm]

Why? For the funny!

[cyan sorrel]

I think on lower difficulty you should be fine, the game is generally easy on 2 first difficulty and very fun. But most importantly still depending on your taste
You could try play on im to young too die first then later can raise up difficulty in setting later

[strange gale]

DE has some hilariously overdone visual effects (lots of camera shaking, bright flashes, and generally poor visual clarity at times, even for somebody with no impairments) so i'd look out for that, but the game does provide a couple options to tone most of it down

[cyan sorrel]

There 1 enemie might cause you some trouble too in around mid to late game but might get used to later on ( marauder) it require some reflex since you said you re abit slow

[slow sigil]

Marauders can be made extremely predictable though

[cyan sorrel]

For us yes , he probably needs sometime to get used to

[slow sigil]

He runs at you > he'll green eye once in range

[lyric lodge]

Just play nightmare mode, thats what. Map layout is only important for un, for normal nightmare, you should focus on beating it. And keep beating it with minimal deaths. You can try making a new save slot and replay missions after you beat them if you think you died too much on them. General tips, you should have a good knowledge of quickswap combos and have specific combos or tactics for every specific enemy. And, move. Move everywhere. If you dont move, either you get one shotted by a plasma soldier or all the enemies group up in one area. Thats the thing, they have different code and different speeds, running around would allow for one to come at you while another doensnt because of differdnt behaviour

[timber dome]

on the other hand
blood maykrs can suck a rusty nail
the fuckers have a short vulnerability window, and only when they attack
EXCEPT THEY JUST FUCKING STAND IN LINE OF SIGHT OF YOU AND DO NOTHING

[lyric lodge]

You wont regret it. Not one bit. I bought the game as a regular casual, yet now im desperately trying to beat ultra nightmare lmao. The easier difficulties are huge jumps from the harder ones, so dont worry about it being too hard. Its hard but fair

[slow sigil]

Bmaykers are supposed to be integrated in arenas, keeping low tabs on them whilst dealing with other threats and kill them if they open up

[timber dome]

turn off motionblur and turn on colorblind mode
i'm partially colorblind myself and it helps a lot
also, the game is perfectly fit for casual play, so yeah
GO BUY IT

[lyric lodge]

people genuinely underrate eternal's environment and artstyle. I swear everyone says 2016 looks better because its darker but gamma is literally a thing that makes eternal both dark in contrast shadows whilst being vibrant and colourful

i could genuinely play the game on itytd wih raytracing on, gamma at 0.8, and take a buttload of photos

[warm crown]

I like the artistic look of Doom Eternal more because it captures what classic Doom looked like with its touches of comedy and no horror.

[slow sigil]

I'd also say it's more unique, 2016 is just straight up basic AAA

[empty basin]

2016's environment feels same-y for the most part

Like oh boy I sure love E1M1 being all orange

Actually it's more like the whole game being all orange most of the time

It's either orange or blue and nothing else

[lyric lodge]

I honestly dont care much for how accurate it is to the classic environments, but the diversity of environments in doom eternal is what really catches my eye

[small helm]

makes it feel more like an actual adventure

cocaine fuelled at that but incredible nonetheless

[subtle turtle]

i need severe help

i didn't know i needed a bethesda.net account to even get into the singleplayer (this is my first time booting it up on pc)

and apparently my email address is already in use but i have no idea what account is using it

because i have absolutely no memory of ever making an account

[lyric lodge]

make a new email

[subtle turtle]

nvm i got it

it just fucked ALL of my computer's audio, great

currently using bluetooth headphones if that helps

this is seriously pissing me off

even when i plugged in a cord it didnt work

it got bass boosted and sounded like garbage

[mental sand]

I love the style of the game. It is beautiful yet so cool

[lyric lodge]

its vibrant and beautiful. Each map just has something new to offer(other than final sin but ehh)

[unreal flare]

It's much closer to Classic Doom environments than Eternal is

imo there's nothing wrong with that

[lyric lodge]

yeah. 2016 takes place in just uac and hell, there really wasnt much diversity to add. glad they switched up with eternal tho

[unreal flare]

Eternal goes in so many different places it doesn't fit a Doom game very well imo

The game's still good but it's a strange sight

[empty basin]

? If we are talking about diverse setting doesn't Doom II have it as well?

[lyric lodge]

well for me personally im not the kind of guy to care if a game fits in a franchise or not

[empty basin]

So does Doom II not fit a Doom game too? (wow that's a mouthful)

[lyric lodge]

if its good its fucking good and i'll love it to the fullest extent

[unreal flare]

You mean Earth and Hell?

[empty basin]

I mean Doom 1 was just "Facility" and "Hell"

[vernal halo]

Exactly

[unreal flare]

Doom 1 was indeed Mars and Hell, simple enough

Doom II was Earth and Hell as well

[azure oriole]

Me and my friend were talking about this when we were discussing why we like eternal more than 2016. A big reason is the environments. They're done so well in eternal, earth is great, hell is awesome, argent D'Nur is also pretty great, mars exists. Everywhere feels unique and captures you. In 2016 however there's just mars, with it's dull orange, brown, and grey color palette, and hell. Hell also has a lot of orange and brown. A lot of the game feels the same, and there are so many mars levels that none really stand out. It just makes eternals atmosphere a lot better imo.

[unreal flare]

Doom 64 goes back to Mars then Hell again but it looks pretty different because it's Doom 64

Doesn't Doom Eternal have Earth, Hell and other worlds / planets?

[empty basin]

What I meant is more about the setpieces, Doom II also had Facility and Hell, but it also had stuffs like Library, City, Fortress, etc

[slow sigil]

Even if you revisit places on eternal it generally looks different too

Taras nabad and exultia being basically the same as an exception

[empty basin]

and while Doom II does have maps with weird gameplay design like M13 Downtown, the important thing I'm pointing out here is that the levels feel different

[lyric lodge]

true. the biggest difference was location honestly. with different locations and areas, they easily had the freedom to do whatever the fuck they wanted. if it wasnt for locations, i mean, look at all the sentinel locations. they look similar, not in a bad way but similar because theyre practically the same 'location'. which is exactly why the different locations in missions in the game allow devs to be more diverse i guess

[unreal flare]

So it's more of a level design thing than a level aesthetic thing

[slow sigil]

I would say sent Prime and world spear look wildly different then the other ones

[empty basin]

I'm pointing out the aesthetic

[slow sigil]

Literally, it's JUST exultia and taras nabad that look the same

[empty basin]

Even Nekravol I and II feels different despite it being supposed to be the same level split into two

[slow sigil]

Hell on earth - sgn - arc - cultist base - UACA -reclaimed earth

[unreal flare]

I'm not sure I follow, the aesthetic really just transitions from Earth's facilities to Hell's castles over the course of the entire game

Doom Eternal (haven't played it yet but I will once I finish 2016) does seem to have much more varied environments

[slow sigil]

And nekroval would be the most excusable to why it could be the same

It was literally split in 2 for some reason idk why

[azure oriole]

I would disagree because in eternal almost every level looks different to me. No matter the location. I agree with Luci on TN and exultia feeling pretty similar, but other than that the Argent D'Nur levels all feel unique and different. You're captured again in their atmosphere. Whereas in 2016 every time I'm on mars it just feels the same to me. It only really feels different to me in hell, and even then, it's still pretty similar compared to how different eternals locations are from one another.

[azure oriole]

Being honest I think it was just so 2016 and eternal would both have the same amount of levels. (13)

[lyric lodge]

real. i could stare at urdak for hours bro

[empty basin]

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that a lot of Doom 2 levels have this "design landmarks" that makes it easily distinguishable from other levels at first glance, and the first Doom just doesn't really have that for the most part

Not sure if I can word it any better, or if I'm even remembering correctly how memorable the levels were, been years since I played Doom 2

[azure oriole]

Yeah same, except id probably stare at the holt instead of the actual urdak level. The holt is so beautiful 😍

[unreal flare]

Ok no I do agree with that though, Doom did have rather generic levels that aren't very distinguishable from one another. Doom II also does that but it's not blatant that time around.

All I'm saying is Doom Eternal manages not to do that but it does so in a way that makes you forget it's a Doom game at times

[empty basin]

Personally I feel like that comes down to how people have different interpretations on what a "Doom game" should be 🤔

Since a lot of the classic Doom games' looks were due to technical limitations, it means that for both players and developers, it's up to them to fill in the blanks with their imagination

and everyone had different ideas on what to fill those blanks with.

[unreal flare]

That's an understandable approach

[empty basin]

Doom 2016 mostly decided to stick with the "Facilty" and "Hell" aesthetic, but Eternal thinks differently and says "there's definitely gotta be more to this" and diversifies the setpieces way more

so we get stuffs like Cultist Base, Urdak, The World Spear, etc.

[unreal flare]

Yeah I understand that but I don't think it's valid to say Doom 2016's environments are "basic AAA" when it decided to simply double down on what Doom 1993 already established

[empty basin]

Oh yeah I don't think basic AAA is the most precise way to describe it, but I assume it kind of stems from a fatigue of the AAA FPS games scene

lots of games from the 2005-2015 era has this weird habit of sticking to a particular color hue all the time

[unreal flare]

Haha yeah I remember that, the good ol' yellow filter

But I think Doom 2016 isn't the kind of game that does that to be honest

Mars outdoors and Hell are really orange/red but the inside of the facilities doesn't have that weird ass filter on them

Besides, the real fatigue from AAA games of that time was due to gameplay rather than aesthetic

[azure oriole]

Maybe not but a lot of the insides are just grey instead, which isn't much better imo

[empty basin]

Yeah for the most part 2016 didn't really have a setpiece where the color just pops

I think VEGA Core is the only exception from my memory

[slow sigil]

Plus you're trying to fight the 3 high bosses closest to a corrupted heaven, ofc you visit unique places

[azure oriole]

Vega core is the only memorable mars level imo. My favorite level in terms of aesthetic is Kadingir Sanctum though.

[empty basin]

For Hell, I like Titan's Realm the most just because of that epic setpiece at the entrance

[azure oriole]

The entrance is pretty cool yeah

I like Kadingir because of the aesthetic like I said, and the story going on in it. Samuel going to hell for the sarcophagus and shit, and the slayers tombs just add more and more.

To me that level easily has the best atmosphere in the game.

[austere bronze]

how are you supposed to deal with possessed archviles? cuz I keep dying to the two possessed archviles in the Immora slaughter map

[empty basin]

Use Lock-On Rockets to them when they are in a stand-still animation

i.e. their summoning pose or whatnot

And sometimes they just stand still for the whole time and eats your rockets like it's breakfast

[austere bronze]

alright, thanks

[lyric lodge]

Freeze them too

[jolly kernel]

are a lot of Doom fans those that mostly play 2016 and Eternal and rarely ever play the classics and 3?

[lyric lodge]

I mean, i feel like doom fans are the type of people to check the classics out after getting into the franchise from the modern stuff

[slow sigil]

I've played a bit of the classics but honestly they just don't interest me

[lyric lodge]

I find them kind of intriguing, but my only source is gzdoom while i play the modern stuff on my ps5 so its a lil diff

[jolly kernel]

I think the Classic Doom games are fun, but 2016 is the first Doom game that I enjoyed a lot all the way through

when I think about Doom 2016 and Eternal are the ones that come to my mind

[azure oriole]

I enjoy everything doom, but I'm just focusing on completing what I want to in the modern stuff before I move backwards to the classics. The modern ones were the first ones that I actually liked, so I just wanna do those first.

[jolly kernel]

hell, a friend of mine said he finds Classic Doom overrated and 2016 is the first one that he found to be really good

[lyric lodge]

i like the classics but man the puzzles are infuriating cuz i killed everything but idefk where ONE keycard is dawg 😭🙏

[jolly kernel]

mods aside, I think the reason why a lot of people are still really fond of Classic Doom is due to nostalgia

the vanilla experience, while fun, is outdated and sometimes even boring

[lyric lodge]

maybe, but i like some of its simplicity. Sure, i prefer fast-paced stuff like modern doom but the classics feel great standalone

[slow sigil]

Tbf it is a 30 year old game

[jolly kernel]

I enjoy Quake 1 more than Classic Doom and it came out just 3 years later

I guess it has... less confusing level design and more satisfying combat?

[small helm]

while I love og Quake, it suffers from low monster variety in comparison to classic Doom

[jolly kernel]

then again, most of the enemies in Classic Doom were like the same enemy but with a different sprite and stats
walks towards you, fires a projectile and melees you if you are next to it

[small helm]

they both have different movement and attack patterns but quake enemies are way more aggressive and I don't see how they're all the same enemy, did we really play the same games?

[lyric lodge]

Honestly, classic doom shines BECAUSE of enemy variety

Quake shines for its movement, i guess. Idk never played it

[jolly kernel]

aside from stat differences, I don't see a difference in terms of behavior between an Imp and a Baron

[empty basin]

We're talking about Possessed ones

[lyric lodge]

Are possessed enemies not frozenable

Just bought the dlcs. Should i try beating the campaign on ultra nightmare first or go to the dlcs head on

[azure oriole]

This is one of the reasons Eternal is better. Much, much more varied art design.

[empty basin]

Nope, they can't be frozen or faltered

The only way for you to Crowd Control a Possessed Demon is by using the Microwave Beam on them

[slow sigil]

🤓 they can be faltered, just only with the microwave beam

Also, you can kind of freeze them... but you have to freeze them before they get possesed but after they get spawned in which is a few ms at best

[empty basin]

I still remember when I first saw The World Spear in the trailers, the sheer size of the setpiece just made my jaw drop

Or more like Eternal on its first ever trailer really

[slow sigil]

People get excited over setpieces?

[azure oriole]

The Urdak level specifically still instills some awe in me.

I'm also a very big fan of a lot of TAG's environments. The Atlantica base, the Holt, the World Spear, and Immora are all visual treats.

[empty basin]

Oh man UAC Atlantica was just peak

The whole vibe of the level was just masterfully done

[lyric lodge]

The UAC designs in eternal are a huge step up from 2016 no doubt about it

[empty basin]

It's kind of funny that The World Spear was never seen anywhere else despite its sheer size and supposedly being almost as large as the planet itself

I guess Argent d'Nur (2016), Exultia, Taras Nabad, and Sentinel Prime was just set on the planet's equator or something lol

[azure oriole]

The 2016 level is set in Hell.

It's an area from Argent D'Nur, the planet, that was absorbed into Hell. Likely the Elemental Sepulchre.

[empty basin]

Ahh right right I forgot

[austere bronze]

Nope, they are extremely annoying

Well, maybe not annoying but just way more difficult to deal with

[empty basin]

Wait I just realized that they used another skin for the Heavy Cannon in the TAG 1 trailer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965739133236555836/1222524026568839280/image.png

I think this is the only instance that they ever used a non-default weapon skin in official media?

[weak bolt]

how did you post this image ? and why can I not do it ?

[empty basin]

I posted the image in another server and shared the link here so it embeds itself

[weak bolt]

ohhh interesting, thanks

[empty basin]

do note that you can only post one link every minute or so

or else the bot will get mad

[weak bolt]

got it

can somebody tell me what this means exactly ? https://imgur.com/a/aMKWKpm

does reshade not work with doom Eternal ?

[small helm]

reshade makes game crash it seems

try removing that

[weak bolt]

but I love Reshade, plus It's not even Installed on the game

[small helm]

then i have no idea because i installed reshade on like 3 games in total , one of them being Halo MCC

[weak bolt]

Is very strange that it can detect Reshade in the first place to be honest, and be careful when trying to play multiplayer with reshade on MCC If you don't know that already

[small helm]

ah, I'm aware of this much since it's a hook it can trigger anti cheats

i used it solely for single player for helmet overlays

[weak bolt]

nice

[vale comet]

Support mods oficial all plataforms?

[muted harness]

It does make it work and I have used it few times, but it is still unsupported Vulkan layer so u get that popup everytime

Controversial opinion BUT, Posterize one is the best shader UwU

U should try it in Eternal

[muted harness]

Multiplayers don't support it, Valve AC just refuses to let u join online game with reshade on

although u can do it in offline games

Also, if u have a Nvidia GPU, Nvidia Reshade is available for Doom Eternal (but very few), I'll post one of my Nvidia Reshade image from Doom Eternal in #screenshots

[weak bolt]

I already did and it looks great and I'm going to try that shader you mentioned

[rugged hound]

what are we talking about guys

[muted harness]

Reshade

[weak bolt]

yeah

[rugged hound]

whats that

[muted harness]

Shader that runs on top of games to influence their look

[rugged hound]

ooooo

cool

[muted harness]

Like make it CRT, B&W, Old film, neon effect

[weak bolt]

Is also free

[muted harness]

Also probably built in your GPU depending on GPU

[rugged hound]

its my first time playing doom eternal i just finished doom 2016

[rugged hound]

2080?

[muted harness]

Idk, the requirements are in NVIDIA GeForce experience software

[weak bolt]

I already did the game on normal difficulty now I'm going for nightmare difficulty

[rugged hound]

ooooeh, im playing it on hard

[muted harness]

ITYTD or HMP ?

[weak bolt]

I don't know those acronyms

[rugged hound]

im too young to die or hurt me plenty 😭

[weak bolt]

ohh, those are the names of the diffculties right ?

[rugged hound]

yeahh

im too young to die is easy and hurt me plenty is normal i think

and then also ultra violence

[weak bolt]

yeah, when I play for the first time I play on Hurt me plenty

and I best it on that difficulty

now I'm playing on nightmare

[muted harness]

ohhhh

I first played on Im too young to die, I am still on Too young to die but doing master levels

[rugged hound]

i always play it in hard the first time 😅

but im super pro 😎

[weak bolt]

epic

[austere bronze]

Go up in difficulty instead maybe

[muted harness]

very scared

[dawn fractal]

Yo I am playing ancient gods 1 for the first time

[austere bronze]

Nicee, its gonna be way harder than the base campaign

But I thought that was good

[dawn fractal]

Yeah it is

And I LOVE IT-

[austere bronze]

But if you're playing MLs you can go up in difficulty

[muted harness]

ye, I think I will do master levels on ITYTD then redo the whole game on HMP then master levels on HMP then nightmare then nightmare master level and go up like that

[austere bronze]

Skip UV?

[dawn fractal]

Wish this had a vc lol

[austere bronze]

But you don't need to do MLs before going up in difficulty

[muted harness]

UV ?

[muted harness]

I don't, but I prefer it that way

[austere bronze]

Ultra Violence

[austere bronze]

Aight

[muted harness]

I will do UV obv

[austere bronze]

I wish I had recordings of me when I played itytd to see what I was doing back then

[maiden fable]

Don't be ... The higher the level the better the rush

[austere bronze]

Not really, it just depends on your skill

[muted harness]

I have no good keybindings

Currently I just put SSG on middle mouse, Plasma, scroll up, Rocket scroll down but I want keybindings for CSG, Chain, Plasma rifle 😭

[austere bronze]

Heavy cannon is one of the most important weapons (if the the most important) so you'll definitely want a good bind for that one too

[muted harness]

I barely use it lol

I don't like PB lol

[austere bronze]

PB is important for quick switching

And quick switching allows you to deal massive damage

[midnight bolt]

Marauders are good enemies and Air Control is a bad rune

[austere bronze]

Are you trolling?💀

[midnight bolt]

No

[austere bronze]

Damn

Well, your opinion is wrong

[azure oriole]

Half of the opinion isn't wrong

[austere bronze]

I assume you're talking about the marauder part

Which I still disagree with

[azure oriole]

I am, the marauder is a fine enemy

[maiden fable]

I pissed my pants when I got two of em in TAG !

[austere bronze]

They honestly could have made you fight 3 of them in tag2 since you have the hammer

And in the arena you fought 2 of them there was one of those blue spheres that heals you completely

[young mango]

“push forward combat” when you have to prioritize fodder over a literal superheavy ( they were hitting his shield )

[austere bronze]

Yeah, they could at least made him bug free

[muted harness]

2 marauders sound cute, I love marauder, out of all, he is the one that looks cutest and not a demon completely

Cutest demon in Doom Eternal

[muted harness]

push forward combat where u push into fodder cus u ran out of ammo for the chaingun 7th time in a single combat encounter

[young mango]

Wat

[austere bronze]

If you manage your ammo right you barely need to chainsaw

Especially in the campaign

[muted harness]

I need chainsaw for demons that chase me like Baron of Hell, Hell knight, go down in few seconds

[muted harness]

Campaign, yeah

[visual crest]

yoo i haven’t talking in a while but i made a new drawing of the doom hunter🤩

[muted harness]

I also use it Doom Hunter's hoverboard with grenades before lock on rocket into him and boom he's gone

[austere bronze]

Huh

[muted harness]

What ? Isn't chainsaw good on baron of hell ? Even in codex ?

[austere bronze]

You can't chainsaw super heavys💀

[muted harness]

Ohhh wait no

CHAIN GUN

[austere bronze]

💀

[muted harness]

HOLY SHIT, I ALWAYS CONFUSE THEM NAMES 😭😭😭😭

Then wdym u barely need chainsaw in main campaign ? I needed a lot of chainsaw in main campaign at times

[austere bronze]

I see that I confused names here too, but you shouldn't use the chaingun, you should quick switch instead

Quick switching deal wayyy more damage

[visual crest]

wait what are you guys talking about about?

[muted harness]

Specially cus my most used weapons (ballista, ssg) share ammo with my most used weapons (plasma rifle, csg)

[austere bronze]

DOOM Eternal

[visual crest]

💀

[muted harness]

No, I didn't there, I meant chaingun, I use it a lot

[austere bronze]

When you learn how to manage resources you will need to use chainsaw less and less

[muted harness]

Nice point, unfortunately, I don't have good keybindings, apart from mouse wheel up ballista, mouse center press ssg, and mouse scroll down rocket, I have no other keybindings that I can work with cus I have a normal non gaming mouse so it's hard 😭

[austere bronze]

Yeah but I confused names

[austere bronze]

Want my keybinds?

[muted harness]

Sure

I watched a lot of keybindings videos and many of them have gaming mouse and stuff

Got game for $4 and need $20 mouse

[austere bronze]

Rocket launcher: R
Heavy cannon: E
Ballista: scroll down
Ssg: scroll up
Csg: T
Plasma rifle: 2
Chaingun: TAB
Mod switch: CAPS
Chainsaw: X
Rest is default I think

Idk where I have super weapons cuz I never use them

Punch is F

[visual crest]

o u play on pc

i play on console, and i don’t really know how to do quick switch

[austere bronze]

Yes

[muted harness]

Probably set up two weapons in arsenal one after another and switch between them using the weapon wheel button fastly ?

[azure oriole]

You can quickswitch on console, it's just a little more difficult since you usually have to set them up before you start

[muted harness]

Like pressing short Q instead of long Q

[visual crest]

like customize which weapons go where on the wheel? i dont customize it cause i dont wanna mess it up

[azure oriole]

No

Pull out one weapon you want to quickswitch with, then pull out the other. Then you can shoot a weapon and just press the weapon wheel button instead of holding it and it will bring out your other weapon. Then shoot that one and switch again. Then repeat.

[visual crest]

OHHHH

[austere bronze]

@muted harness learn to quick switch anf use different weapons, that way you will output way more damage and need to chainsaw less

[novel token]

bind individual weapons to dpad buttton, you have 4 available spots for weapons in controller gaming

[muted harness]

How do u glory kill with heavy cannon on E ?

[visual crest]

i didn’t know you could use the dpad for weapon switch

[austere bronze]

F

[novel token]

also using weapon wheel button between 2 weapons works wonders with the precision bolt

[azure oriole]

You can, but you'll probably have to switch the binding of crucible and frag/ice bomb toggle to do it.

[visual crest]

i started using precision bolt after ancient gods one i think

[novel token]

d pad or any button, I personally put it in the dpad but its whatever fits you better

[muted harness]

That just seems messing up keys, glory is replaced heavy cannon, so it replaces grenade switching

[visual crest]

oh i can’t really remember but im pretty sure i have flame belch on l3

and frag/ice bomb is normal

[austere bronze]

Grenade switching is G

It's like that normally

[muted harness]

Oh, wait, mod switching is F

[azure oriole]

Then you can likely use triangle for a weapon bind since you freed it up.

[muted harness]

And it goes to Caps

[austere bronze]

Yes

[visual crest]

mmmm,tank

[austere bronze]

Changing keybinds takes a while getting used to (like 2 hours) but it's 100% worth it

[muted harness]

Ohhh

[novel token]

you can ditch Mission Info, Weapon Mod and L3 for bindings, those are useless IMO, I also dont use crucible nor switch grenades, so thats 2 more weapon binds but thats my playstyle, might not be good for some

[austere bronze]

I definetely recommend that you find keybinds that fits you and then learn quick switching, quick switching is a complete game changer

[visual crest]

i like using crucible so i’m probably gonna keep it, i like to switch combat shotguns mods so ill keep that, plus the wave and precision bolt for ballista, and idk about grenade switch i’ll see later, interesting binds btw

[azure oriole]

Aren't you a battlemode player though? So I don't really think your playstyle would apply to many people

[novel token]

yes I am, practicing with the limitations of Battlemode made me a better player, got back to campaign and finished UN easily, now campaign is boring for me lol

the only crutch that might affect campaing players are the ice bombs and crucible/hammer, those are vvery helpful but it's more fun restacking without those crutch weapons FOR ME

[azure oriole]

Yeah your playstyle is pretty different from what I think is considered normal, not that there's anything wrong with it though.

[tribal haven]

Hey I'm new to doom eternal.Can y'all give me some tips?

[jaunty sluice]

hello

[austere bronze]

Get some custom keybinds so you can quick switch fast, use the meathook a lot, be spatialy aware, be efficient with ammo, practice using every part of your arsenal and perhaps most important: just play the game a lot so you get a feeling for it

[jaunty sluice]

can someone help me improve my FPS?

[warm crown]

use the flamethrower and chainsaw whenever you can

[eternal trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-under256kb-peepo-pepe-discord-gif-22126250

why doom eternal is so hard

[verbal mantle]

Cuz you dont mew in ohio!! /j this is sarcasm

[azure oriole]

How to sign out of doom eternal

[rose thistle]

holy shit going back to normal after savagery is pain

[smoky lily]

You can easily beat the game without flame belch

[rose thistle]

that. doesn't seem like a good tip

[smoky lily]

Well, it’s valuable information

And the chaingun is severely underrated

[rose thistle]

is it though?
you can beat the game with only the shotgun too but I wouldn't consider that a "tip" for a new player

[smoky lily]

Dude it’s not that deep

And yes it is, don’t obsess over having full armour

[rose thistle]

it's funny how in pretty much the only part of the game where full auto is useful (the very beginning), it's still not good because you don't have fast weapon swaps yet

[smoky lily]

And that one mastery challenge where you gotta kill the pinkies

[cyan sorrel]

It wasn’t underrated though , it’s one of the best weapon in the game with the best weapon mod

[rose thistle]

the statistic of the Doom Eternal Chaingun being underrated is innacurate, most people believe the chaingun to be very strong. Chaingundownplayer Georg, who constantly claims it's weak and needs buffs, was an outlier and should not have been counted

[rose thistle]

it's not even the mastery, like. In the early game it's useful because you don't have many good weapons so it's your best way of getting some good DPS and killing heavies, but you wanna keep the sticky bomb on you for cacos or literally any other situation and since you don't have the faster swapping perk yet that majorly hurts its utility

the soonest you can unlock the fast swap is Cultist Base... which is also when you unlock the SSG
so you have about like, half a mission where full auto is actually useful for its own sake lol

[low valley]

hi

[round flicker]

I think they should add a bunny slayer for anyone who plays Doom eternal on Easter

[dapper basin]

Maybe

[rose thistle]

a daisy easter even would be sick actually lol

[dapper basin]

A chocolate slayer

[rose thistle]

😋

[dapper basin]

Delicious

[round flicker]

Yeah or maybe a chocolate bunny slayer

[dapper basin]

Guys, I am playing the ultranightmare mode, ¿some tips?

[rose thistle]

don't die

[dapper basin]

Yeah

[marble pumice]

just started Ultra Nightmare myself. seems like the best way to do it's gonna be keep practicing segments in Nightmare until I have the level down, then just switch over

[azure oriole]

What has more dps the mobile turret or the micro missile with the 30% dmg buff upgrade

[rose thistle]

missile lmao

[tidal beacon]

hey, is there anyone that would like to join a private party for achievement hunting in multiplayer? me n my friend are just trying to get the achievements and was wondering if anyone would be willing to help us out by afk'ing or somthn

[round flicker]

The outfit could have bunny ears a chocolate bunny shoulder pad chocolate for skin chocolate oozing out of the suit and a chocolate bunny on the end of the double barrel shotgun for a skin

[azure oriole]

Ngl i thought it was gonna be turret

[rose thistle]

they don't work in private lobbies, if that's what you're planning

[rose thistle]

turret is garbage
it's antithetical to the combat loop by design and to make things worse a bunch of enemies have explicit resistance to it
same deal as the Unmaykr where not only is it bound to struggle by design but it also just gets shot in the knees for bonus

[tidal beacon]

they dont? but what if we queue three ppl in battlemode?`wont one become slayer and the other two become demons?

[rose thistle]

i have no idea

but I've heard that "private lobby" doesn't work

[tidal beacon]

would you be willing to help or try? add me and ill invite to party ?

[rose thistle]

tbh i would but I'm just wrapping up a long session and am feeling pretty tired lol

maybe another time

[tidal beacon]

ait ait

[rose thistle]

also what platform are you on? we might not even be able to lol

[tidal beacon]

im pc

[rose thistle]

ok we'd be good then

[mental sand]

I am so glad, I purchased the doomicorn outfit. It makes my life better everyday

[fresh turret]

Stuck on the dark lord fight

This is some real bs 😭

This mf slashes me once and regens almost his whole ass healthbar

[nocturne lynx]

Pretty sure Battlemode achievements aren’t void there.

Never used it for them but I do recall rumblings to the contrary (admittedly years ago but I’d be surprised if they changed it since).

[rose thistle]

well
it's rumblings against rumblings so we're pretty much at net 0 information lol

if they aren't tho that's great news

[austere bronze]

VERY reletable, and the worst part is that I don't even have savagery unlocked on my main save file in eternal😭

And I don't have my second choice unlocked either💀

[austere bronze]

It definetely isn't, the mobile turret is overrated by new players cuz they can't quick switch and almost every decent player knows chaingun shield is extremely good

[strange gale]

how so? mobile turret does enough damage to be useful if you don't quickswap, and energy shield is hilariously broken for several reasons

i'd say it's just about perfectly rated

[smoky lily]

Fair enough

[smoky lily]

What weapons can quickly kill a carcass, cuz they’re so annoying

[lyric lodge]

ssg

theyre just like a bit stronger than prowlers ngl

[smoky lily]

They’re not even strong just so fucking annoying

[lyric lodge]

yuh

[nocturne lynx]

It’s more a case of being able to get around the shield quickly: they don’t have much health.

PR might suffice for that if needed but I can’t recall the last time I did that.

[austere bronze]

Ssg, blood punch, rocket launcher, ballista, a quick PB shot to that red tank on their back and dticky bombs kill them pretty quick

[slow sigil]

Just don't get hit

[austere bronze]

installing kaiser campaign rn (:

[lyric lodge]

just played the first level of tag1

its really fucking good but holy shit mtmy movement is so ass and i cant even do shit about it

[muted harness]

Kaiser campaign ?

[austere bronze]

a mod for doom eternal that makes the entire campaign much much more difficult

[lyric lodge]

NEVERMIND THE BASE IS STILL ALIVE AFTER SELF DESTRUCT? 😭😭🙏🙏

[muted harness]

So master levels?

[lyric lodge]

Except its harder than master levels and its the whole campaign

[muted harness]

Why does this keep getting harder

[spring panther]

point blank ssg or arbalest instantly kills them

[azure oriole]

Because doom eternal is too easy normally

[spring panther]

absolute hell

[muted harness]

dies from a fodder

[lyric lodge]

will the dlcs help me become a 10x better player and allow me to beat un or

[azure oriole]

Probably not.

[austere bronze]

and have way less guns and mods and stuff

[muted harness]

beat un?

[spring panther]

i wouldnt be able to survive the kaiser campaign on anything higher than hurt me plenty

[lyric lodge]

ultra nightmare

[lyric lodge]

i wouldnt be able to survive any mods on a console

[azure oriole]

That's because you can't get mods on a console

[spring panther]

i cant survive un on console

[lyric lodge]

exactly

[muted harness]

I haven't even played base campaign on Hurt me Plenty

[spring panther]

i've only went up to ultra violence

[austere bronze]

I was playing the first arena and thought "huh, this aint too bad" and then a fucking marauder spawned in💀

[azure oriole]

You'll get there, don't worry about it. Just focus on having fun with the game, and you can always up the difficulty later if you want.

[lyric lodge]

ultra violence to me is like hurt me plenty now but i still despise my movement

[spring panther]

spoiler alert: a doom hunter spawns in the second arena

[lyric lodge]

In tag1 i tried doing the slob one cycle on them and failed horrendously lmao

[austere bronze]

rather that

[austere bronze]

I just have the combat shotgun

[lyric lodge]

crazy

[spring panther]

at least you get all mastered equipment

[lyric lodge]

spam grenades

[austere bronze]

OH WAIT I have the hammer

[spring panther]

reminder that the hammer needs 4 weakpoints in kaiser

also, kaiser campaign has escalation encounters that give varied things

[muted harness]

Marauder is cute, I wish I could just fight one after another marauders
Mostly passive and running around with his shield lol

[austere bronze]

but i cant charge it up for the marauder :/

[lyric lodge]

doom eternal makes me question my own existence after dying like an idiot everytime

[spring panther]

one of these is chainsaw savagery

[lyric lodge]

"do i really have to beat ultra nightmare?"
"im about to fucking kill myself bro"
punches controller

[spring panther]

or wait no thats a secret that requires railboosting to

[muted harness]

Also I realised for some reason marauder can't be held still with an ice bomb
I just wanted more time to select my weapon to combo him

[spring panther]

thats on purpose

[lyric lodge]

marauder is immune to bfg, crucible and ice bomb

[spring panther]

ice bomb instantly cancels his stun so please god dont use it on him

[lyric lodge]

i accidentally did thinking i had my grenades up

[lyric lodge]

i definitely didnt die

[muted harness]

Marauder is definitely not immune to them though, if u hit him with BFG when he is like in his head circling mode, u can do damage with BFG to him

[lyric lodge]

and what difference will it make

[muted harness]

Damage ?

[spring panther]

hes not immune to berserk either so you can destroy him with that if that situation ever happens

[muted harness]

Berserk ?

[lyric lodge]

Good use of bfg ammo

[spring panther]

(it doesnt)

[spring panther]

the berserk powerup kills the marauder

[muted harness]

I use BFG and crucible only on Archvile

Or in boss battles like Icon of Sin stuff

[empty basin]

If you have trouble then I really recommend instead starting it out on a lower difficulty (i.e. Nightmare -> Ultra-Violence)

On my first attempt I started on Nightmare and was just not having a good time, on my second attempt currently I started at UV and am having a pretty good fun

I've just finished Doom Hunter Base today and currently crounging through the levels first for secrets before going to Super Gore Nest

[muted harness]

Is your AFK time in GMT ? like GMT 4:30 AM - 6:30 AM ?

[empty basin]

The discord time are displayed in your local time

[spring panther]

timestamp moment

[muted harness]

Ohhh

[empty basin]

<t:1711624080:f>

This reads as March 28, 2024 7:08 PM for me

also I haven't updated it in a year

[spring panther]

and it reads as 6:08 AM for me

[muted harness]

Damn

It reads differently to everyone

How did u deven do that ?

[lyric lodge]

ay same timezone

[muted harness]

What timezone ?

[lyric lodge]

i forgor

[azure oriole]

The one where time happens

[muted harness]

It reads as 4:38 PM to me

[empty basin]

Google HammerTime and open the link that ends in .cyou

[muted harness]

Ok

[austere bronze]

nah, the marauder was really easy once I realised that I have both full auto and the hammer

[muted harness]

Very interesting

[austere bronze]

damn, first death

was hoping I could go the entire first mission without any death

[azure oriole]

608 for me

[azure oriole]

Why does the slayer never talk in the game

Only in flashback

[muted harness]

ok

[unreal flare]

The Slayer never ever talks before Eternal, dunno why. Most I've heard of him using his voice was grunting caused by pain and death in Classic Doom.

[spring panther]

playing horde mode on nightmare for the first time

[spring panther]

he also talks in tag2 but only says a single word

[unreal flare]

No.

[spring panther]

indeed

[spring panther]

starting off horrible by getting plasma rifle as my first gun obtained

im not going to be doing the bonus waves because im not going for score this time

[slow sigil]

kid named resetting:

[spring panther]

it went way better after

got ballista and ssg shortly after

and i got prowlers on the reclaimed earth blitz round so that was very easy

[azure oriole]

If anyone cares, I am just trying to get all the secrets lol

Also I am trying the u.v. difficulty

[spring panther]

good luck on uv i died a lot when i first tried it

[azure oriole]

I am using the onslaught cheat code tho

[spring panther]

ok then

[azure oriole]

I should give me self a challenge tho

[spring panther]

the take back rune lowkey sucks primarily because glory killing does not freeze the timer

[nocturne lynx]

Take Back doesn’t involve GKs tho.

[spring panther]

i know

it just feels annoying sometimes when take back expires during the kill

[full ether]

Bro fuck the the hammer that shit broken as hell spam that shit all time you got one fucked up weapon and with the final boss don't get me started

[spring panther]

language btw

[azure oriole]

So?

[spring panther]

rule 8

[full ether]

Bruh -_-

[spring panther]

yeah idk why the server doesn't allow profanity

[nocturne lynx]

The Chaingun:

[full ether]

Dude all I'm saying is that the hammer is broken and it needs to be Nerfed

[nocturne lynx]

Then move to Horde Mode.

[azure oriole]

Bro who gives a shit

[jolly kernel]

finished the Taras Nabad Master Level and holy shit it was so exhausting as fuck

[spring panther]

every mod

[jolly kernel]

putting Arch-Viles and Buff Totems in areas you can't access to unless you kill some enemies is very dickish level design

[spring panther]

horde mode holt wave 4 round 5:

[jolly kernel]

not to mention I'm started to get tired of this 2 Marauders at the same time stuff, this level did it twice

[nocturne lynx]

Taras Nabad + WS MLs in general are evil. It’s not necessarily novel.

[spring panther]

wave 4 round 5 on the holt is literally made by satan himself

on horde

[nocturne lynx]

Is it that wave in the first Slayer Gate arena where basically everything is spawned at once or smth?

I haven’t played Horde in forever.

[spring panther]

the wave has 4 mini waves, one of them is a turret shielded buff totem with 2 marauders

after going through that, 4 archies and a spirit marauder

its horrible

[nocturne lynx]

I loosely recall that wave being a bit OTT but frankly the Coin Room without Super Weapons was harder.

Buffed Cyber Mancs are way stronger than one would figure.

[spring panther]

that is true

i got sent to like 10 hp instantly by one

[strange gale]

it's still broken in there

[spring panther]

you just cant use it as often

[strange gale]

yeah the tool that invalidates a third of the core gameplay (also stuns everything in a giant aoe for 3 years) is slightly less spammable there

congrats, balance accomplished

[young mango]

literally just glory killing four zombies still gives a full hammer, a superweapon charged with just 4 heavy cannon bullets

I agree it’s completely busted

[balmy onyx]

ive never really used the hammer only in like desperate situations didnt realize it was that busted

[young mango]

I’m not gonna tell people how to play though, some people play for speed and raw efficiency instead of trying to challenge themselves through normal means

[teal mason]

be ready slayer

[lyric lodge]

tag1 is already murdering me

[balmy onyx]

i play on console tho so not sure if its different for yall

[lyric lodge]

It aint, the sentinel hammer is op every way all day

[balmy onyx]

dang

[lyric lodge]

Blood swamps is killing me man im losing my shit 😭🙏

Possessed are faster than i thought like damn tf

[austere bronze]

I remember when I first played the blood swamps and it was really hard, I remember that arena with the buff totem in the start where you have to step on those green circles to start it was really hard

[lyric lodge]

I couldnt even find the archvile dang 😭

[lyric lodge]

Really? It was pretty decent for me compared to the one with the archvile and doom hunter

[balmy onyx]

doom devs figuring out how to make the archvile spot more awesome each time

[austere bronze]

Yeah, isn't there a possessed baron with 2 normal barons at the end there?

[lyric lodge]

mfs might aswell make bro shine like a star 😭🙏

[lyric lodge]

You gotta be fucking kidding? I havent even made it to that point bro. How many times i gotta use my bfg dang 😭

Dlc got me so beat i swapped back to the base campaign un

[young mango]

doom devs figuring out how to make the archvile spot more awesome each time complete fucking RNG ( reclaimed earth )

[austere bronze]

The most annoying possessed enemy is probably archvile for me

[balmy onyx]

true i can barley beat world 3 on horde (i havent beat it yet its insanity)

[lyric lodge]

I really have to figure out how to not take dmg cuz even if i fly around i take damage and my goofy ass keeps messing up when running around

[lyric lodge]

Nah cuz i couldnt kill the possessed in time and bro possessed a doom hunter 😭😭🙏🙏

[austere bronze]

Might be a modded level, but I remember pretty clearly playing agaisnt a few possessed barons at some point

[jolly kernel]

they placed a Buff Totem in an inaccessible area that only unlocks... when you kill a Marauder buffed by it

[lyric lodge]

Freeze it

[young mango]

does that still work? I thought they patched that

[austere bronze]

Blood punch him twice and then just lock on burst a few times

[lyric lodge]

I have no idea i cant even make it there

[jolly kernel]

are you trying to play TAG 1 on ultra-nightmare

[austere bronze]

Oh, thats a good idea, I've forgot about un in the dlcs

[lyric lodge]

Im playing it on nightmare

[lyric lodge]

Cuz the skins are ahh

[austere bronze]

I don't care about the skins

It's just a fun challenge

Could start with tag2 cuz that's the easiest

[young mango]

fr…. ( does he know )

[lyric lodge]

Welp while i have a fun first tine experience with the dlcs imma try beating un on the main campaign

Barbarian skin is sexy asl but what did they do witht he face bro 😭🙏

[cyan sorrel]

Tag 2 too easy cuz they got complain about tag 1 too difficult

First time nightmare in tag 1 I lost count how many time I die

[young mango]

tag2 is so goated tho

[cyan sorrel]

Yeah no doubt

[lyric lodge]

rs bro i cant go one arena without dying 50 times

[austere bronze]

Huh

[cyan sorrel]

Now I’m curious about pre patched tag 1 cuz I didn’t play yet that time

[austere bronze]

There are mods so you can play it

But same, I basically started plsying late 2023

[cyan sorrel]

There is ? I ll check on it

[young mango]

I’m the goat at TAG2

[cyan sorrel]

Tag2 everything amazing except the boss fight

Still satisfied hitting him though

[lyric lodge]

How does movement and avoidance of dmg work in the game? Is it just randomly running around but having great aim

[young mango]

I remember glask saying moving in more than one direction automatically makes enemies projectiles have worse aim, so idk try going diagonally or something a lot

[lyric lodge]

Is movement covered in your guide?

[young mango]

no not really, movement tech is though, but not like basic teaching you how to maneuver

[austere bronze]

Oh ok

[young mango]

it’s an outdated guide anyways, needs some tweaking

[austere bronze]

Idk, but I usually try to stay in the air for as much as possible

[young mango]

at this point you’re better off asking me whatever you need answered directly instead of using the guide

[lyric lodge]

Damn

[young mango]

but I’m not very good at general advice, vague questions often lead to vague answers

[lyric lodge]

Also ngl its harder to separate the maruaders in tag1 than i thought weirdly enough

[young mango]

I might be wrong on this but I think they can’t shield rockets when going off ledges, so try luring them to jump off a ledge and lock on them mid air ( don’t know if this works current patch )

[lyric lodge]

Good idea, but not sure i'd be able to pull it off lmao

[austere bronze]

What's the easiest marauder one cycle in your opinion?

[young mango]

probably one involving the foot ballista tactic, ballista does splash damage to the point that when he exits his falter you can re-falter him

https://youtu.be/CK4VIeGCZ94?si=HN2xtZbIxylgDkZT

found a video from a more casual player to give a realistic demonstration of the tech

[strange gale]

yeah that's mentioned right here https://youtu.be/2KQNpQD8Ayo?si=sdZ_ShGPN00Cbvmk&t=1649

[young mango]

nice, thanks man

[strange gale]

i'm not sure that they're forced to miss, it feels more like the ai's predictive aim just gets messed up enough for movement to be the strongest option

there's a sweet spot where the ai's line of sight is either perpendicular or at a steep angle relative to your movement direction, that's where most misses occur

if the ai is at a shallow angle or directly behind or in front of you, obviously the forced miss system doesn't work

[young mango]

mancubus goo balls have insane accuracy for some reason, I’ve literally gotten sniped by them midair sometimes

[strange gale]

also, hilarious meta tactic: intentionally turning your back to unavoidable damage

[glossy warren]

does that actually work

[strange gale]

the game applies pretty stupid amounts of damage mitigation in that situation, this is the value for nightmare/UN
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1222944650143465612/image.png

on itytd the mitigation is something like 90%

no cooldown on this btw, unlike brink of death

[young mango]

is that why noodle didn’t die in his UN run despite making intentionally shitty decisions constantly?

that actually makes a lot of sense now

[glossy warren]

this wouldve been nice to know for taras nabad un

[strange gale]

backshots doing less damage is insane of the devs to program

[young mango]

LMAO

[glossy warren]

boys at id be wildin

[austere bronze]

Okey

[proven dock]

What’s the most annoying demon for you all

[slow sigil]

probs marauder

carcasses i don't count cause like.... yeah that's what they are designed for

[proven dock]

Ok

[dense escarp]

Real

[lilac iris]

What the fuck is your profile picture

[lilac iris]

Marauders have the best designs so me personally think it outweighs that part + they are not annoying unless you are in a small room with 4 other arachnotrons (looking at SGN Master)

[slow sigil]

yeah i couldn't give a fuck less about visual design if the gameplay is a boring slog

[lilac iris]

bro its literally fun to fight the mf

Personally

[slow sigil]

nah it's incredibly boring

doesn't help that normally you basically have to kill all the other enemies too or otherwise they become quite buggy and won't properly work

[rose thistle]

buggy?

[lilac iris]

I mean its your opinion

[slow sigil]

marauders can get triggered by friendly fire

[rose thistle]

oh yeah that shit

[slow sigil]

this leads to them sometimes straight up canceling their attack mid-swing somehow, or summoning their dog

[rose thistle]

Marauder is a neat idea but he can get a little irritating. If they were a little more consistent (I hear they used to be even worse at launch) and frankly had like, way less health, I think they'd be cool

[slow sigil]

there is also a small issue where if you shoot him the frame he attacks, he fully puts out the green eye vfx yet blocks your shot

[rose thistle]

you should be able to 2-cycle them with like SSG Balista I think

[slow sigil]

yeah but that doens't make him any less boring

i could 1 or 0 cycle them, doesn't suddenly change their actual gameplay design

[slow sigil]

i mean, they are pretty consistant if you want them too

[azure oriole]

It sure is great that they never have infinitely spawning enemies in their encounters 😁 (oh wait)

[rose thistle]

Eh, I think the design is a cool idea
enemy you actually have to focus on a bit and can't just shoot a bunch

[slow sigil]

they usually run straight at you after their thrown axe attack, then they nearly always just green eye you

[slow sigil]

yeah but they way they did that is atrocious, they don't fit with the arena gameplay at all

[storm field]

2 arachnotrons not 4

[slow sigil]

bmaykers are designed the same way but also where kept in mind that they need to be put in arenas

they did forget about a biut about console players with that one but ehhhh

[azure oriole]

When I'm playing, for some reason they'll throw their axe at me like 4 times before they finally actually green eye, despite the fact I kept the same distance the whole time

[slow sigil]

well, then they are still axe throwing, not after axe throwing smh msh

[rose thistle]

ture...

[slim wasp]

I don't know if it's the right place to ask but can anyone help me getting some trophy on ps4 ?

[slow sigil]

which one

[slim wasp]

The battlemode ones

I need to heal 50K for demons, and kill a playernwith each weapons

I can farm the others

[slow sigil]

Queue up as demon and just focus on healing as much as you can
Queue up as slayer and just try to focus 1 gun at a time

[slim wasp]

Ok thanks !

[azure forum]

Just play the game man. You'll get them by just playing

[thorny aurora]

modded battlemode would be a lot better if it was like vanilla battlemode

[midnight sparrow]

What does that even mean?

[azure oriole]

At that point just play vanilla

What's the point

[lime pasture]

so much pain

and so much anger

but i finally beat ultra nightmare

[azure oriole]

Nice job, congratulations

Now onto the dlc and master levels

(only if you want to of course)

[lime pasture]

i do

but i am not excited at all for whatever ultra nightmare samur maykr is like

[azure oriole]

Oh it's bad

But it's not actually that bad, you just have to develop a strategy

What mainly sucks is just learning the fight in the first place

[lime pasture]

i feel okay though about the dark lord because he actually wasnt that hard back when I was doing a normal run

i just put my entire brain on marauder mode

because dark lord is basically just a glorified marauder

[azure oriole]

Thats because he like genuinely isn't hard

[lime pasture]

yeah i was honestly kinda bummed out when i realized how easy it was

it felt pretty anticlimactic for the embodiment of satan himself

[azure oriole]

All of TAG 2 is really easy, and TDL is just a anticlimactic end to an easy ass dlc

[young mango]

ZASED!!!

[azure oriole]

Speak the truth, I do.

[young mango]

i know I was agreeing, TAG2 is goated because it’s easy, it’s great

[spring panther]

i advise using pb + ballista because of how often he teleports

anyway im trying the campaign on nightmare

[nocturne lynx]

"TAG 1" is easy if you’re good enough.

[austere bronze]

Everything is easy if you're good enough

[azure oriole]

It's bad because it's braindead easy, and never challenges the player at any point.

[young mango]

It is, but TAG2 has a special place in my heart

[young mango]

doesn’t challenge the player normally but i definitely find it wonderful to speedrun

[azure oriole]

Speedrunning is an entirely different monster

[young mango]

yeah

[azure oriole]

You're like cracked though so you probably really enjoy slaying that monster

[nocturne lynx]

Hugo wasn’t looking to do that for "TAG 2".

It was meant to be more of a reward after enduring "TAG 1".

[young mango]

world spear is legit the worst part of any% restricted

[azure oriole]

Well that's a plus for speedrunners then right? You get the worst part of the run out of the way before the rest.

[young mango]

true

[azure oriole]

Hypothetically should minimize the time you have to spend to pb

[young mango]

world spear is a mess btw, so many skips you have to land, in order it’s, wolf skip, pole clip, pothook, stone imp skip, revenant punchboost, escalation encounter skip pauseboost, and the punch boost to end the level

landing those skips all in one level is hard enough but then you have smaller whiffs you can make like fodder not cooperating with being cleared because they’re running away or something

[azure oriole]

Dont you only spend like 5 minutes on that level?

Because that's like 8 skips

[young mango]

6 minutes and some change

[azure oriole]

At that rate you're doing a skip like every 45 seconds

[young mango]

sounds about right

[azure oriole]

Redonkerlous

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/QYvRNsD3omA?si=sH5KrcbDr4KOkPE4

[azure oriole]

What's the most fun part of the run?

[young mango]

The world spear in this run isn’t my FASTEST but it’s most certainly my cleanest

[young mango]

reclaimed earth all the way, the tricks are fun to pull off and the only real hitch of the run is the final arena is hella rng

[azure oriole]

Yeah it was definitely very clean. Definitely some interesting strats in the run, I find it weird that the "restricted" catagory allows skips where you literally just exit and enter the level to despawn enemies, but fair enough. You had great tech all run, and I didn't really notice any major mess ups besides maybe the end of revenant punchboost. I think my favorite thing the run does is just spawnkilling the possessed arachbro, like bro didn't even stand a chance lmao.

[azure oriole]

I think I've watched your reclaimed earth actually, and yeah it did seem like the most fun part of the run.

Weird cus playing casually the most fun part of ancient gods 2 is the credits. 😌

[young mango]

well all it is is basically just loading checkpoint, you just use exit to main menu instead because the option pops up faster

[azure oriole]

I do understand that's its like loading checkpoint, it just kinda feels boring in a way. Like if you're going to skip a fight using cool tech to avoid it I think that's interesting and cool. If the run just did the fight then the runners have to get good at it and develop a strategy, cool. But just reloading checkpoint to despawn enemies is neither a cool skip nor interesting in any way to me, it just feels sorta lame

And I guess in my mind a "restricted" run wouldn't allow skips like that where they're kinda lame

[young mango]

well I do an ultra nightmare run of this where it’s the same thing except no checkpoint reloads, cuz it’s ultra nightmare, immora is boring because of enemy capping i have to spend extra time just killing enemies, like not even required encounters mind you, have to go out of my way to kill enemies you can just walk past in a normal run

[azure oriole]

Why do you kill them when you can walk past them?

Like I think skipping an encounter is fine as long as you're not reloading checkpoint to do it, that's just lame

[young mango]

enemy capping, doom eternal has an entity limit of 32, if you exceed that, enemy won’t spawn all in one wave like they usually do, or just won’t spawn at all if the capping is exceptionally bad, so you need to kill those enemies because they don’t despawn normally for some reason

[azure oriole]

Surely it's only like heavies right? Non despawning fodder sounds stupid as hell

[young mango]

everything that doesn’t spawn upon progression like normal goes towards the enemy cap limit

the only checkpoint reload that actually skips an encounter is the one in world spear for the quad damage encounter, everything else is because progression fucks up if you don’t, or because of enemy capping

if enemy capping alone wasn’t an issue, there would only be three checkpoint reloads in the entire run

[azure oriole]

Why don't the runners install a mod that increases the entity cap? I assume one probably exists, as I think 32 is a pretty low ass entity limit

[devout bone]

Totally agree

[rose thistle]

probably cause competition is based on the vanilla version of the game

[young mango]

a mod like that does not exist, and because runs don’t allow mods, everything must be vanilla physics, and making a category extension for such a mod would be odd to do too because you’d have to pick one specific part of the campaign, which might single out competition like mine which is TAG2

[rose thistle]

plus, if you allowed mods you'd fuck over console players

[azure oriole]

Theyre already fucked over

[devout bone]

I play console so good point

[rose thistle]

ofc like Tammie said you could have a specific category, but

[rose thistle]

ture...

[devout bone]

Kind of

[azure oriole]

I suppose it makes sense with explanation, but do still stand by the fact that it's pretty lame.

[devout bone]

I played the DLC part 1
Didn’t make much progress
Even though I was on I’m too young to die

Haven’t even beaten cultist base

Then again, I don’t play much

[young mango]

not confident on this but it might be an engine issue for the enemy limit, which means it might not even be an option to change it

[azure oriole]

I have no idea how eternals code works, but I'm pretty sure for a lot of games it would be a pretty easy fix, you'd just go into the game files and find whatever variable controls the entity cap and change it from 32 to 64 or whatever

[young mango]

game engine is very much different from the games code

[azure oriole]

That's true, I think my brain just ignored the word "engine" in your first message lmao

[rose thistle]

ok this is like my third time here but I don't understand the mars core level
after you get the BFG and take the first teleporter, where the fuck are you?? what's this big destroyed area?

[ancient cosmos]

Hello

[raw plank]

bits of mars

[rose thistle]

ohh shit
that kinda makes sense actually

[raw plank]

yeah

[lyric lodge]

Okay so theory proven correct. The freeze bomb on the buff totem during the buffed marauder dont work, but i second-tried him

I think ive just been confirmed as a chaingun spammer 💀

All i do with tyrants and archviles now is chaingun 😭🙏

[raw plank]

do you use shield or turret

[lyric lodge]

Shield duh

I swear to fucking god these buff totem spawns are getting wackier by the fucking momnet holy shit they might as well be a spectre

[raw plank]

good

[raw plank]

what level u on

[lyric lodge]

Im on tag1 in the arena with revenant spams, carcassess, hell knights and two tyrants

[raw plank]

ugh that part sucks

[lyric lodge]

Mfs genuinely gave me two tyrants with a practically invisible buff totem

[raw plank]

bro

you should see the buff totem at the holt on battle mode

[lyric lodge]

I would but ion got ps subscription

[raw plank]

fair

[rose thistle]

what?

do you mean horde mode?

[raw plank]

it sucks, you have to kill four turrets, to kill it and you have two marauders, a few barons, and other demons

[raw plank]

yes

mb

[lyric lodge]

Where's the second buff totem pls 🥺

[raw plank]

i forgot tbh

[lyric lodge]

Damn

[raw plank]

it’s been a while since i played tag 1

and i don’t have it on my xbox, only pc

[lyric lodge]

I cant even find the buff totem without getting trashed on by tyrants bruh 😭🙏

[azure oriole]

Why not use lob?

[azure oriole]

Which arena?

[lyric lodge]

i do for tyrants after the shield's gone. For archviles i just spam chaingun and grenades plus one blood punch

[lyric lodge]

I mentioned it

[azure oriole]

This is vague.

[lyric lodge]

Funny how i advise people to use slob yet i cant fucking pull it off for some reason

[azure oriole]

Which level at least?

[lyric lodge]

Then how about the second arena where the demons spawn only after you step on a green thing in blood swamps

[azure oriole]

Ok thanks I know now lol

[rose thistle]

oh that

[azure oriole]

2nd buff totem is up on the higher part on the opposite side from which you climbed up

[rose thistle]

they're in the edges
on some raised areas

[lyric lodge]

tag1 is so fun but so frustrating at the same time lmao

[rose thistle]

I think it's right out of a portal

[lyric lodge]

so i should just go through the portal there?

[azure oriole]

It's next to a portal and a health fillup

[rose thistle]

like if you go through one of the portals it'll be right in front of you

[raw plank]

bro the trial of maligog

[azure oriole]

I mean sure

[lyric lodge]

ohh alright yeah thanks

What are good quickswap combos for archviles? Not to kill them with only the combo but like an efficient combo to deal with them after some spam? Is pb ballista good since its long range?

[azure oriole]

TAG 1 is just the best. I love that it's both fun casually and it's hella fun and actually difficult on higher difficulties

[azure oriole]

I usually go up to them, ice bomb, then lob twice and they die.

[lyric lodge]

My first playthrough rn i straight up went to nightmare off the bat and it genuinely feels like a post campaign barrage of master levels lmao

[azure oriole]

If I have no rockets then I ice bomb and then SSG ballista until they die

[raw plank]

the speed between the swaps with pb and ballista isn’t in a good rhythm, i’d recommend rocket launcher and pb

[lyric lodge]

That easy? Damn i'll try that

[azure oriole]

Yeah I could see it being a little overwhelming. I didn't play TAG 1 on nightmare until I had already beaten the base campaign on UN.

[raw plank]

fair. i’m still trying at un, haven’t gotten past cultist base, it’s so hard

[rose thistle]

i hear that's the hardest part

get past there and it's mostly just a matter of not choking

[raw plank]

yeah, i’ve heard. i have a feeling im gonna fumble at the part with the eyes in nekroval

[rose thistle]

kalibas, the sightless judge?

[raw plank]

pretty sure

[rose thistle]

literally just killed her lol

[young mango]

I’ve lost two ultra nightmare runs at that section before, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

[rose thistle]

it's funny, like
doesn't seem that hard, but it can give you trouble

[raw plank]

the pain elementals are the worst at that part

[rose thistle]

lost 2 extra lives actually I'm pretty sure??
granted I wasn't trying too hard but

pain elementals are funny
on one hand they feel so much less threatening than classic doom since the lost souls don't hang around and are basically just projectiles, so like whatever right?
but gottamn they will fuck you up. Not as much of a "kill this asap or you'll have more and more trouble" but still not pushovers

[raw plank]

there not the worst on their own. it’s the moving platforms added on that fucks me over

[azure oriole]

Learn the rythme of the platforms, there's a pattern for how they move if I remember correctly. I also tried to remember when the pain elements would spawn and then arbalest them immediately. You could even save chainsaw pips to help even further

[raw plank]

they die easy with albalest and ssg, it’s just irritating

[lyric lodge]

Im still tryna beat the base campaign on UN lmao. I guess it can be overwhelming but its really engaging and just a blast

[lyric lodge]

Dont use your weapon points. Save them for the 6 point upgrade for lob and the rest for ssg so you can get flaming hook

[raw plank]

what i was planning on doing

[azure oriole]

Yeah UN is hella fun, enjoy the grind man it's probably one of the best parts of eternal and it's so so worth it imo. Good luck with the journey

[lyric lodge]

For suit upgrades i mean, it can range from hotswapper, dash, more freeze bomb dmg and/or double frag

[lyric lodge]

Thanks man

[lyric lodge]

Speaking of which i probably missed out on loads of upgrades cuz i havent got 100% once

[raw plank]

i’m basically js looking for faster dash, faster swaps, and all the crystals when it comes to non weapon upgrades

[raw plank]

i’m working on 100% on my main save

[lyric lodge]

ngl, for some reason theres hidden points if you do specific things. I found out about some cultist base stuff from Dead K3y

[raw plank]

fair, i’m prob just finna watch a tutorial while doing un for the upgrades

i don’t have enough brain capacity to remember all that

[lyric lodge]

Write that shit down 🥶🥶🔥🔥

[raw plank]

bro my pc is fried rn, dunno what happened

and xbox isn’t the best place to write notes

[azure oriole]

Set a reminder on your phone and have it go off in the middle of the level that way you remember 🤯

[raw plank]

fair

[lyric lodge]

Make a google doc on your phone idk

[azure oriole]

That was a joke, thats a horrible idea

[raw plank]

ik, idk how to even make my phone go off in the middle of a level

[lyric lodge]

When youre done with a level just check your notes

[azure oriole]

You would just set a reminder and put the time as some time you would be in the middle of the level, if you really wanted to.

[raw plank]

go figure ig. i was thinking of just having my phone with notes open while i play, so i can check between arenas

[azure oriole]

That's what I would recommend if you're the type to use notes

[raw plank]

meh, i like using videos with codex screenshots, more of a visual person. i could work with notes tho

i am running a normal nm save to find shit and get used to the demons

[lyric lodge]

Maybe just replay levels on your main save and take vids and edit it yourself 🥶

[raw plank]

fair

[lyric lodge]

Joke, but if youre a visual person you could take screenshots of things to take note of and write extra comments on the ss

[lyric lodge]

Just watch yt tutorials man dont make it a hassle

[raw plank]

if i can figure out how to put text on screenshots

[raw plank]

was planning on it. i think notes could be a good mental exercise tho

[lyric lodge]

You could potentially send pics to some random discord bot and write your notes there

[raw plank]

ig, i just send myself stuff over sms. i don’t trust my notes with old discord accs

[lyric lodge]

carlbot is my notes

[raw plank]

fair, deadbot?

[azure oriole]

is eternal multiplayer?

[glossy warren]

battlemode is

[raw plank]

battle mode is multiplayer. js no campaign

[azure oriole]

alright

What is battle mode?

[raw plank]

it’s a game mode where there’s one slayer and two demon players, the demons have to kill the slayer, and vice versa. the rounds are out of five wins

there’s a battle mode channel somewhere in the discord

[azure oriole]

Ohhh sounds cool, is it cross play or would they also have to be on PlayStation?

[raw plank]

cross play

[azure oriole]

Sick, another thing, what’s the best weapon to use in campaign overall against most things

[rose thistle]

it has crossplay? that's not what I heard

[raw plank]

all demons need different weapons, hard to determine

[azure oriole]

alright

[raw plank]

i played it with a friend whose on pc

[azure oriole]

forgot about that lmao I’m slow

[lyric lodge]

Pb is crucial in every quickswap combo. Only exception is ssg ballista i guess. You gotta have specific combos for specific demons to preserve ammo and deal with them more consistently

[raw plank]

i mean, the frag you can use on all demons 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lyric lodge]

Chaingun shield

[raw plank]

marauders tho, you gotta have a weapon like ssg or pb to stun it

also armored barons

[lyric lodge]

For the SLOB tech, how small is the window from rocket launch to lock on? I swear i do it in like 800ms yet it doesnt work. Does it have to be fucking 300?

[raw plank]

not sure, haven’t payed attention

[young mango]

just immediately lock on after firing the rocket, and the rocket has to have some form of FSE applied to it

[lyric lodge]

FSE? You mean like switching from another weapon?

Ive tried to immediately lock on multiple times but it never seems to work out. It also seems that when the rocket launcher spins that means the slob failed

[young mango]

yea, fast swap effect, another thing I think you could practice if you want ( though it’s not highly practical ) is weapon mod button, fire button, weapon mod button, which should make it lock on faster without external FSE

[storm field]

What is slob(ı know lock on burst but what is "s"

[umbral totem]

@young mango hi have u beaten every master level on ultra nightmare

[young mango]

yes

[young mango]

old but gold https://youtu.be/U9i3eb3JByQ?si=4iHFwc4yzhGcFOeU

[lyric lodge]

Sylar lock on burst. Basically double lock on burst but not needed to charge another

[storm field]

Ok that tech is really useful

[lyric lodge]

woah

[topaz kindle]

What’s the difference between quick play/slayer/demon?

[lyric lodge]

if this is old, whats your most recent non speedrun gameplay?

[young mango]

this, but it’s not that good https://youtu.be/xBqOsEpkdsA?si=y37ge9FUudmFfBLJ

[rose thistle]

whoa the Phobos skin is pretty cool

[rose thistle]

slayer queues you up as slayer
demon as demon
qp for both

How hard is slob to execute?

[calm karma]

Iae rapzeada

Fnaf doom

Bora??

[azure oriole]

Borat, actually

[empty basin]

Not too difficult to be honest, after you practice for a while and start to integrate it in gameplay, it becomes second nature

The hard part at the beginning is to get your muscle memory remember what and button to press and when to not press them, after that it's smooth sailing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw

It makes almost every Possessed Heavy Demons just a joke

[safe raft]

I swear the the unmaker in doom eternal is shit

[azure oriole]

So does everyone else btw

[safe raft]

Hell the unmaker is not worth it for the shit you gotta do

[rose thistle]

Yep

It's pretty flawed on its own but to make matters worse they give like, every enemy you might actually wanna use it on massive resistance to it

[safe raft]

I mean there was one time I shot a tyrant with the unmaker and it did nothing

[rose thistle]

Hang on I gotta check some numbers

[azure oriole]

Still worth the weapon points

[rose thistle]

ok, so
theoretically
the Unmaykr does 3 times the damage per ammo on a tyrant, assuming point-blank BFG shots and that you hit every one of the Unmaykr's projectiles

except
that's not gonna happen

because you need to be pretty much point blank to hit every one of the Unmaykr's balls (not safe), and... obviously the same applies to hitting a point-blank BFG shot
except unlike the Unmaykr you actually want some distance with the BFG, with more travel time it will do more damage with its tendrils

From a decently close distance the Unmaykr might possibly still out-damage the BFG in terms of efficiency (haven't run any numbers, just guessing), but also bear in mind this requires you to be totally focused on this one enemy and not the many that are probably surrounding you

meanwhile the BFG just takes like a second to charge up and shoot, does just a fuck ton of damage instantly, and also has the bonus of killing everything else in the area while it's at it.

[young mango]

well, the BFG Can clear entire rooms of enemies with up to 6000 health with relative ease, given the tendril gets enough distance

so an enemy like an archvile would take exactly 10 unmaykr shots to kill, by having 3 archviles exist, you’ve already equaled the playing field of the weapons, not the mention the BFG keeps enemies in a perpetual falter while dealing it’s tendril damage

[rose thistle]

why does literally every superheavy take extra damage from the BFG

like
was it not strong enough already

every enemy you might actually want to use the Unmaykr on either has explicit resistance against it or explicit weakness to the BFG lol
or both, in the case of the marauder

both in the case of pretty much every boss, actually

what the hell

the icon of Sin takes 10,000 fucking damage from a BFG shot (10 times the regular damage), enough to 1-shot any of its parts besides its head in phase 2, while the Unmaykr deals a third of its normal damage
???

[keen coral]

doom eternal is a good game and i ilke it and its the best game i ever played and i mean best

[rose thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527939153297448/1223126774280622111/image.png
btw what are these symbols? that little star by the 30 and that... generally just everything going on in the Marauder Unmaykr numbers

[raw plank]

i just thought the icon was weak tbh. i beat it 2nd try with only 1 bfg shot

[lyric lodge]

Is this level of gameplay even remotely possible on console?

[young mango]

probably

[lyric lodge]

I just died in UN to a singular gargoyle shooting its worthless disgusting fucking gooey green mouth spit.

[strange gale]

womp womp

[rose thistle]

It's really into to see how the pros' gameplay differs from my own
For example, I typically use the blue gore key before the red one. But here, they used the red one first.

[open quest]

Beat the World Spear ML on UV and god damn the final stretch of it lmao

[rose thistle]

I..
I'm gonna be honest I didn't mean to watch that entire video
But it.. it was so mesmerizing... I couldn't look away

[rose thistle]

Yeah that shit's nuts ‼️

[open quest]

I just remembered as typing this that I did not beat it and died at the doom hunter+HK+maurauder fight at the end

dunno how the fuck my brain did that

But I didn't beat it

[rose thistle]

Also, random thought
Is there any notion that one of classic/modern weapons is "more optimal" than the other or is it just entirely preference?

[rose thistle]

LOL

[open quest]

wdym?

[azure oriole]

after 13 hours I finally got the crucible 🙏

[lyric lodge]

People always say to "stay in the air", but how do i even do that? Yeah meathook but what about the earlier levels and just general knowledge other than meathoom

[spring panther]

usually in later game they use the ballista constantly

idk what they do early on

[short onyx]

Is there a way to configure your weapon swap? I see people swapping from super shotgun to rocket launcher to ballista within seconds, when I try to do it I somehow end up firing off my last BFG cell 😂😂

[rose thistle]

brug
i just died on the last wave of the last stage in horde mode 😔

[lyric lodge]

pc or console

[rose thistle]

on PC you can set binds for each weapon, yeah
idk how console players do it tho

[lyric lodge]

What matters is that you made it there

[rose thistle]

nuh uh
what matters is I get the achievement!

[lyric lodge]

For console, we tend to put important weapons for dpads. I however do both dpads and R3

[lyric lodge]

real

[rose thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527939153297448/1223172814220169247/image.png

very close...

it won't be the end, though. I think i might go for all milestones.

[nocturne lynx]

All Milestones is a bit of a waste of time owing to the Platinum-esque Milestone having very borked tracking.

Case in point its tracking for me is 53/80 despite my total Milestone count being 127/133.

All base campaign Milestones would probably be worthwhile though ("TAG" Milestones are just 100% + UN clear and Horde Milestones iirc are mainly just a grind).

[spring panther]

round 5 wave 4?

bro that one is usually difficult, only do that one if you're absolutely sure you want to

[spring panther]

horde milestones are in fact a grind since you can get the nightmare completion in 15 minutes if you avoid bonuses

the coins take about 3 horde runs since theres a total of about 147 coins in horde

the bounties are dependent on both rng and skill