I remember the first time I fought dark lord I was incredibly frustrated because I didn't realize that he had five health bars, I thought that I was gonna do a glory kill animation and then doom guy would just punch him instead and his health would fill back up and I thought it was a bug or something. The frustration was real. Honestly I don't think I've ever been that mad playing eternal before or since
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im playing dark lord on nightmare
i've died at least 7 times on the last 2 phases because of the bad stun window rng
Yeah that sucks
i could use the saving throw bug to skip one of the phases
Beaten him second try on nightmare I was like, damn isn't this mf too easy as the final boss
I don't really like enemies where you have to wait for one specific attack to damage them, just feels annoying while I wait around for them to attack. This is amplified with the dark lord too
Ngl they could do much more in the final fight but it's fine I guess
Literally the way to delete his health is stun then hammer then chaingun that's all you gotta do
In all phases too like damn
It's not really fine imo because they hyped him up as the boss for so long and he's a bad to mid boss, so he's disappointing. Also the icon of sin is a great boss, so I was expecting a boss on the same level as him.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212551753141194762/1216504150100279400/a00433bb-be09-4189-9113-67abbb816bc1.mp4?ex=6600a0c6&is=65ee2bc6&hm=c89d2772586664d2e45ddfb5f8e7c5a7a4953240047313fd228af1327be7a234& this is what im talking about (marauder hasn't been damaged)
i assume the game is trying to do multiple damage checks at once
True, icon of sin is very cool
all we got was a traffic light
Icon of Sin is all a boss needs to be
It's a game about large arena fights, enemy micro managing and target prioritisation, so we just give you a big arena fight with a big dude who acts as a hazard and you have to kill him quick or he spawns stronger dudes
He got everything, good platforming arena, lots of health and being aware of other demons in the area
Don't need multiple phases bs
Seraphim is a cool fight tho
Literally perfect for this kind of game. Just is a big arena fight with an extra hazard and big enemy to think about but doesn't have to constantly demand attention.
So he does betray you...
finally got good stun rng on dark lord
defeated him and completed tag2 on nightmare
More like trying to stop us resurrecting dark lord but doomguy don't give a shit
Course he don't
He didn't kill seraphim tho
the seraphim when ballista + pb
He was about to
But didn't so yeh
@azure oriole hey man I’m working up an ultra nightmare variation of my last speedrun to derust
how come i didnt get the gunpletionist achievement steam
i got all weapons mods unlocked without the cheat code
and maxed out
i hear it can bug out
how does "Series" work? am I missing something?
I've completed some of the challenges but not gotten the corresponding rewards
Ooo sounds fun, good luck with it
Is it that same TAG 2 Speedrun you've been doing?
Except UN, obviously
it’s the unrestricted one, since I don’t need to change my routing since unrestricted doesn’t do checkpoint reloads
Your routing wouldn't change at all? Like not even the way you fight demons? I thought that it would at least stop you from tanking and make you take a little bit more time with encounters
Eh what do I know ig
yea you can’t tank demons but you’d be surprised at how much nightmare let’s you tank actually
at the end of immora with the stone imps I let them hit me on purpose so they can surround me ( skip requires killing all of them at once )
the run ended up only being 9 seconds behind my personal best
so it wasn’t that bad
it’s also incidentally world record for ultra nightmare, but that’s not really anything to brag about, one of the runs is routed so badly that it’s actually the slowest unrestricted TAG2 run ever, and the other is just outdated asf
but don’t worry I’ll crush this time and the other time pretty soon
I just learned a bit of crucial information
wat
anieways the run has been posted in #speedrunning
the only time I got low health is when I was getting hit on purpose for the stone imp skip😢 pretty good return to UN I guess
Any console elitist here able to tell me if pulling up the weapon wheel is better for quickswapping compared to just clicking the weapon wheel button?
depends
Hello, I have praetor suit points left, what do I do with them? I would be very grateful if someone could help me. greeting
you can look at them
not much, there are more in the game than you can use so ...
really...? 🤔😄
yeah, for people who don't collect everything
yeah
...or maybe they just forgot to account for the challenge coins
it's so you don't have to use all your time looking for secrets if you want every upgrade
Ok thank you👍
would eternal run on mac through whiskey? this is what i mean
you'll have to find out for yourself I'm afraid
Yea i plan on doing that, just wanted to know if someone has tried before
Master level give you all weapon upgrades and stuff or only the ones from the save file
Anyone know if there’s any way to disable sound effects for certain things? or just ways to deal with the marauder’s damn dog? I just really hate the barking and growling sounds
have always gotten overwhelmed whenever I see/hear aggressive dog stuff
It just kind of throws off the flow of combat to me whenever I hear the sounds
If you're on Steam, there's a mod that reduces the volume of a lot of the game's loud SFX
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/653
But other than that, unfortunately no
ive discovered that many people have managed to run eternal on macs... from 3+ years ago... on the intel chips... and bootcamp (an app to load up windows on mac)......
bro, this paired with the music im listening to rn literally makes it 100x funnier lol 💀
What’s the song called?
Yashiori strategy
Yup but you have go make a mod for it
im installing eternal through whiskey les goo
with the sheer bulk the mancubi have to carry imagine how strong their calves would be
the demons would deck the gym without question
I just thought of a funny song that go with it
they prolly wouldnt fit in a human gym
theyd need a special hell gym or smth
The song is called boombastic
lifting hell barges for reps
lol
like the titans in hell on earth
they are chained tho
The titans you can see walking around in the mission hell on earth aren't chained
You're thinking of the ones on Urdak
oh, yea
Nekroval*
why did doom add nikocado avacado as a demon
Huh
wat
Mancubus
yes indeed, nik- I mean mancubus
Nerddddd
i barely know any of the demon's names
i just call the flying skeleton demon "skelly boy"
I’m so close to the platinum I just need weapons expert and blood bath

Nekravol*
good job 👍
yk what? How 'bout neck roll vol
Nobody on Xbox is match making and me and this kid are sitting in matchmaking 💔
Sounds good
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/51
dude did this person make horde mode before it was a thing lol
Guys who passed ultra nightmare 10 times?
people talking about proteh horde mode like it’s a foreign thing, bruh….
#screenshots message noooo
what?
it was like one of the most popular mods ever for doom eternal
damn
was the actual horde mode based on it, then?
they were like "ok people like this a lot so let's just make it a thing"
?
unironically yes, this was made because they didn’t feel like making invasion
invasion?
yea it was a mode where player demons could come into the campaign
but it was never finished, or started in the first place, idk
like uh, dark sould or whatever?
idk i've never played a game from software
DARK SOULS IVE 100%D THEM ALL HAVE A TATTOO AND BEAT ELDEN RING AT LEVEL 1 I LOVE FROMSOFT
WHY ARE WE SCREAMING
wait the "rip and tear" pack cosmetics are amazing
also is this an exclusive master level?
BECAUSE I LOVE DARK SOULS
lowkey I think I'm most interested in the shotgun skin lol
yes its an exclusive master level
is this the only DLC (besides TAG 1 and 2) with actual content?
i guess, It’s not really DLC, it’s for people who didn’t pre-order and want a second chance at it
do you know if the in-game classic sounds pack does it?
no
just leave after that one bruh 
I'm doing Dark Souls II runs but with only starting class gear
Like I can't deal consumable damage, unequip any weapons, equip any non-starter weapon, and I also can't level up (Mytha without a torch made me tear me eyes out I'm fucking crying help me)
Do I need to know tech and stuff to become a high level player? Cuz rn it's basically me see demon me shoot demon
Kinda
well idk how else you could define a high level player other then that they know their stuff pretty well
I can quick switch, punch swap and ballista boost
You need quickswapping, weakpoint sniping and good uses of chaingun shield to do the really hard things like UN and such, but for most the game you can just shoot things that move
That's about it, I don't even know what other tech there is
At that point you just need to git gud at doing them and executing tech under pressure
I have honestly completely stopped caring about weakpoints
Aight aight
thats not that bad
they just become quick falters once your ttk gets low 
I almost broke the tv I was using to play doom.
I can't equip the torch, and this is ds2 we have adaptability and I'm not levelling up and can't change any equipment so I don't have
adp really isnt that bad, never leveled it first two times playing it, i barely ever do it now, and a torch really isnt needed, helps in the no mans warf and then if u want the poison boss to be easier thats ptm it
plus ds2 is super easy that most weapons u can start off with will easily get u through the game
Poison arena with no health level ups
i'm gonna swallow a bottle of odoban multi-purpose disinfectant if I keep dying to the mancubus
No shield
Yeah, every heavy demon dies almost instantly and the super heavies don't have weakpoints (if you aren't counting doom hunters sled and armored barons green thingy)
chaingun shield makes most de gameplay unwatchable
oh i got hit by a single fireball? time to press my instant win panic button
it's so fuckin boring man
luckily ds2 has plenty of bonfires between the small poison areas they have
not to mention a majority of it u can dodge or not break vases for
That's why chads like murican Eagle don't use It
oh man, I use it, I just try not to abuse it
I use it in bursts like I’ll put it up momentarily just to get a single blood punch off or walk through a crowd real quick
unfortunate the game ended up with a boring meta strat
speaking of energy shield, man it pissed noodle off, he didn’t even care about like the defense aspect of it, he kept complaining about shield bashing, like bruh wat, chaingun base fire is 1000DPS and a shield dash is 200 damage a pop, that’s 1400 DPS at most, that’s still less than a singular ssg shot, literally outmatched in DPS by ssg ballista, dude was just yapping
Mytha the Baneful Queen
And I can't use a torch
btw
am i missing something or is the crucible just really inconvenient to use?
like it takes so long to switch to it and finally swing it, compared to like the chainsaw where you just press it and it goes
like the other day I was trying to meathook into a tyrant and slice him up but i kept failing and dying because it takes so long to come out lol
dumbest message I ever read from him was “oh yea just shield bash a marauder to death because it so OP” like what? that’s literally super inefficient, not only does having energy shield up keep him from doing his greenlight, but even If you do it during his falter he’ll just break out of it because energy shield itself is a falter
crucible is kinda janky yea
it's so underwhelming 😭
I went the whole game hyping it up and then I get it and it's just a boring janky BFG
its animations aren't even that cool!
even if it wasn't extremely inconvenient to use I still think it's really poorly done.
like aside from it just being less interesting glory kills the fact of "get rare ammo on occasion and insta kill a guy" is just
why?
again, especially when the BFG exists
I think the Sentinel Hammer in an instant proved better designed. Like balance aside it just works so much better to let you charge it by killing dudes instead of getting rare-ass drops
It's pretty funny that they gave the "press button to attack with it without bringing the weapon out" card to the Chainsaw since there's no reason to bring it out just because, but then made the same mistake on the Crucible
Like lmao imagine if the Hammer requires you to bring it out too before doing a slam
like i said its still doable, ds2 is an easy game
maybe it could have been a more passive upgrade. Improve your melee or glory kills or something
maybe like under a special condition, like you fill up a bar and then you can instakill enemies with a melee or glory kill earlier or something
or idk maybe it shoulda just been a weapon? just do massive damage instead of instakill, big-ass cooldown, idk
Harder then ds3 for sl1
speaking of limitations on superweapons got argent cells are so hard to come by? especially when you can only hold 2 BFG shots
you shoulda been able to get them from enemies I think, it would have worked great in this game since the ammo is already divided into smaller units instead of just one BFG shot. Make it so as a rare ammo drop you get like 5 argent cells or something idk
well yeah er and ds3 r the easiest
Poison arena, she heals, I am sl1, class has no shield and I have only the starting class equipment
Honestly harder then Sister Friede ngl
Also ds3 still harder then og ds
y'all why are we talking about dark souls in the doom chat
my fault gang
was jus letting this dude know it wont be as hard as hes mind gaming it to be
Because the BFG isn't designed around Doom Eternal's combat loop, it's meant to be used as a get-out-of-jail-free card
real
ok but it's cool!
plus they added the Unmakyr which is even cooler!! but you hardly ever get to use it :(
guys what's the lore on the Unmakyr
did the Makyrs just play Doom 64 and think the Unmaker was cool as fuck or
Codex ```A uniquely powerful weapon, the Unmaykr is kept under lock and key inside the Fortress of Doom. Inspired by Sentinel weapon technology, this celestial firearm was created in Urdak by the ingenious invention of the Maykrs themselves.
Upon activation of the weapon, shutter-ports slide open, and the Unmaykr immediately begins launching rapid-fire volleys of condensed tri-directional Argent bolts. The destructive potential of this alien superweapon is rivaled only by the BFG.```
yeah but like
did they make it because they liked doom 64?
gets world record "that was actually the worst run of all time it's trash 😔"
Lmao Tammie your expectations for yourself are through like 12 roofs
It's unknown which of the Unmaker and Unmaykr was made first
I'm fucking crying trying to do mytha I've been playing these for 4 years Dark Souls II is my favourite game of all time I have a question, have you done mytha sl1 with starting equipment with the poison arena and no damage consumables
so you're saying it's also possible the makers of the Unmaker were fans of Doom Eternal
YouTube
its not that bad brutha
hey does melee actually like do any damage in this game?
It's harder then Sister Friede
Does 1 damage and your average zombie has like 50 health or smth
skull emoji
will gameplay mods break online or do you have to like disable them if you go on battlemode?
are there any unlockable skins that just, actually have the helmet off?
haha I suppose
Do not play battlemode with mods installed. You are at risk of getting your account permanently banned.
yep checks out
eternalmodinjector with mods in it disables battlemode anyways, although I wouldn’t risk even THAT, probably verify your files beforehand
I always keep a fresh version of eternal in a different folder, if i wanna play online, i just rename both folders
if that is lol
speaking of versions of eternal…. I have all 20 versions that ever existed on an external hard drive for convenient downpatching
lmao
most of that is unnecessary when you realize 10 of those 20 are patches that start with “6”
Gimme

are you interested in downpatching, you can download these versions yourself if you want, I can send you the downpatcher
Ok
would count as piracy to release those versions for download*
Tutorials on how to do it urself is cool tho
Nuh uh
yes.
Nuh uh
yea that’s why the downpatcher requires you to log in with your steam account to verify you own the game
Dont argue with me, didnt end well for most people.
Nuh
nah they have 200 hp, and yeah @rose thistle non-Blood Punch melee only does 1 damage
Uh

@wet harbor just do it and when it gets taken down it gets taken down
It's kind of weird that they made Melee does a whopping 1 damage when a Dash does 50
like at least make it 20 or 50 damage or something instead of just 1
Do what
I forgor
Ok
Next person who asks for a download of them gets a mute
Blud is overflowing with power
gladiator is so hard on ultra nightmare man 
How dare i to enforce the rules of the server when it comes to piracy 
Ive heard
Well yeah I don't blame you for that I mean at least let @wet harbor suffer from his own piracy claim lol
the shield stage is ok but when he get 2 weapon things go harder
Practice practice practice. I used to die on his fight like every time then I used mission select to replay that mission for like an hour straight, came up with a strategy, and then got good and consistent at the fight.
the thing is not practice i lost my ultra nightmare save

whatever i will try again tomorrow
Make a normal nightmare save for practice
I was looking at doom mods wtf is the doom that starts with h broo how are people allowed to do that
you mean hentai things or cursed things
well this is the salt of the doom community you know every thing has a rule 34 these days
I'm pretty sure NSFW mods are hidden by default
thankfully
Yeah prolly
alright you all, it’s getting a bit edgy in here

I'm edging
I BEAT UN
I mean edgy
beat what
nice! keep up the good work
His meat
oh ultra nightmare nice one lad
I am sooooo happy !!! finalllyyyy
Congrat
I remember my first ultra nightmare win, I made it to arc complex and was so confident in my ability to win that I just binged it all the way to final sin and won
final sin is easy in my opinion if you use your blade and chainsaw good
I used glitches should I go for a legit run
glitches are dope, go for it, just don’t cheat, and glitches isn’t cheating in my opinion
You getting best times when you get berserk or hitting combos on demons using glitch is not fun
when i get berserk and only thing they fear theme hits
I am only missing one acheivment it is bloodbath for doom eternal battlemode does anyone want to help me boost the acheivment
man i feel like doom slayer when i get that berserk
I mean what do you consider a glitch, I don’t think there’s anything overly powerful enough to outright invalidate a run, if anything it’s kind of a bell curve, the more experienced you are with glitches it’s like, you’re putting more work in to “cheat” than you would just completing it normally
IGT: 6:58.70
RTA: 7:12.53
like this is an ultra nightmare run that use a bunch of glitches, would I call it cheating? no, because you need enough technical knowledge to pull this type of stuff off in the first place that you’d probably already be good enough at doing it normally as well
damn it's kinda wild that noöne's made a mod to make the Crucible work like the chainsaw with the instant activation
that might be even worse, imagine getting no target on a crucible then dying😭😭
bro i just moved to 3 min and he moved to immora what
is that any different from whiffing it in its current state?
actually now that I think about it, notarget wouldn’t be a thing on crucible because it can actually kill things without entering an animation
it'd just make pressing V automatically swing it instead of bringing it out and then having you click to swing it
Reminder for this server, especially for @arctic trellis and @severe atlas, this server is not +18 and we have filters for certain words for a very good reason.
oh sorry chef won't happen again
I am only missing one acheivment it is bloodbath for doom eternal battlemode does anyone want to help me boost the acheivment
Yeah didn't know won't happen
built different
this run is insane
I semi disagree with you on this. Glitching in a Speedrun context is not cheating to me because in a Speedrun context you're only goal is to beat the game as fast as possible, by any means necessary. There are of course catagories that will place restrictions on what you can and can't do, and most speedruns have the obvious rule of "no modding" but in essence, a speedruns only goal is just that; speed. In my opinion in this context using glitches is not cheating, since your goal is just to beat the game as fast as possible using the tools the game gives you. If the devs leave in a glitch or 2 that the speedrun can use to make the run faster, it will naturally be used. This is also my opinion for most single player games, as I think the player should prioritize having fun over most other things. (There are a couple of exceptions to this) and in the context of a multiplayer game, I consider glitches to be cheating. In my opinion using glitches and exploits that the devs did not intend to leave in the game to increase your chance of winning and most likely ruin other players experiences in the process is absolutely cheating.
oh yea totally I didn’t mean multiplayer games
Ah cool, lol
Sorry for the rant, I'm kind of a passionate extremist when it comes to cheating 😂
It’s cool
Cheating is determined by the rules of the category
If the category allows glitches, it's not cheating
If it disallows glitches, then... it's against the rules, and thus cheating
For multiplayer games it's context-dependant. There are some games where glitches and oversights become a core part of the competition (see: fighting games), but there are also contexts where abusing glitches is at the least bad sportsmanship
yea but that person wasn’t doing an actual speedrun they were just going to play the campaign using glitches, which I don’t see any problem with, if they’re skilled enough to skip parts of the campaign or use advanced weapon tech I don’t see why not
For singleplayer games it's... I mean, it's singleplayer. You can make up any definition of cheating you want, but you're also allowed to decide that cheating is allowed. It's a self-imposed challenge, so the only restrictions are those you choose to follow
Is glitches in singleplayer cheating? Idk maybe, but who's to say you can't cheat? It's your game.
are my items and shit stored locally on switch or will they be saved if i delete the game?
like, if they're part of bethesda.net or stored in the game save file
i'd archive rather than delete to be safe
guys can you like
not shoot a grenade while using an alt fire or is my mouse weird or something
your mouse is weird, you can most definitely shoot a grenade during alt fire
i see...
to think this cheap RGB mouse I bought on amazon all those years ago has served me so well for this long
only to fail me in such a silly way...
try binding the action to somewhere else and see if the issue still happens
yeah I just tried, was able to do it just fine
guess my "gaming mouse" with 2 extra buttons can't handle more than two at a time 😭
anybody know when the next doom game is coming out?
tomorrow
When GTA 7 is announced
we already have Doom Eternal for PC, PS4/PS5, Xbox One/Series X, and Switch.
That's 6 different Doom games! We don't need another one!
Just like skyrim
Yes we do
we didn't need Starfield, we just needed Skyrim to be ported to an ISS computer terminal
just used a crucible charge on a tentacle 👍
Dem
you know
in classic doom, there was a safety clause on heavy weapons like the BFG and Rocket Launcher. If you switched to them while holding down the attack key they wouldn't fire, you'd have to release and press again to shoot it
you know, so you wouldn't have funny situations like automatically switching to them when your ammo runs out and wasting a ton of cells or blowing yourself up or the like
any tips for the double marauders in the toxic tunnel in Super Gore Nest Master?
- Always keep moving from each end of the tunnel
- Make sure the middle path is empty before you try going through it and picking up the Rad Suit refill
- Abuse the Chaingun Shield which also gives you protection from the radiation damage
the chaingun shield does what
also holy shit the gladiator is kicking my ass in the unmodded run
I got super close my first try with my 5 or so extra lives and now I can hardly get him down to half 😭
i just realized you can change color of the hud
Exterminator is my favourite color🔥
You can also change your crosshair and many more things
we needed uac in starfield and they fucked it up anyway
The Energy Shield gives you 100% damage nullification on 360 degrees of all axis.
The damage that it nullifies includes:
- Almost every single source of enemy damage in the game
- Damage from falling out of bounds
- Environmental hazard damage
Essentially it gives you godmode for free
Why do I learn this AFTER beating Eternal
It does only protect from the front, in Battlemode that is
But other than that, godmode for free
I'm not too sure which damage sources bypasses the shield other than console commands to be honest
Oh found it, the only stuffs it doesn't block are:
- Archvile's flame pose hitscan attack
- Dreadknight, Mancubi, and Cyber Mancubi's lingering AoE from their ground slam
- Gladiator's Ethereal Shield projectile, Shield ground slam, Bull Rush on phase 2, and various flail attacks
- Khan Maykr's laser beam attack, and fire + electric ground environmental hazard
- Icon of Sin's fire hazard
- Cursed Prowler's DoT
It also instantly breaks from these damage sources, but still blocks them as far as I can tell:
- Cacodemon's bite attack
- Khan Maykr's charged giant projectile
- Icon of Sin's fist and pentagram projectile
Super Shotgun stun and then bfg to the face instakills one...
After that its only a single marauder... Hard but doable
this is only the case in battlemode
(it was originally 360 protection then too, until people realized how absurd it was [and still is])
I noticed an issue. I quick swap faster than I shoot weapons. So if I swap to rocket launcher, I will swap back to PB before shooting it sometimes
Welcome to the basics of quickswitching ✌️
Different weapons have different bringup and bringdown speed, which are 1) the speed which the weapon can be fired after pressing the weapon key and 2) the speed the weapon can be switched from after firing respectively
Different flow of weapons would have different quickswitching speeds, for example starting on Rocket Launcher first wouldn't switch to the Precision Bolt very quickly
So you have to start with the Precision Bolt for the PB + Rocket combo
In the first arena?
Yea they have different speed. But I think I get too much adrenaline and break my fingers pressing all buttons fast as feck
nah
the pit?
the one with the gate and the rune I think? I'm pretty sure, yeah
Yes that's the first arena
i'm a dumbass
or I just don't pay attention.
- i just don't pay attention too well lol
It's very easy when I found the best strat. You stay back and snipe the mancubus standing on the platform opposite you. Only gargoyles will fire at you but no mancubus will attack you so you can kill off a lot in the area right where you get the RL. And then you chainsaw one mancubus and you have 1 left
okay, well I beat him (epic)
using my own techiques - run and gun (kill ofc), then use plasma rifle to shoot the mancubus, get the heavy cannon, shoot, then repeat. (it's not great, but most the times it works for me)
huh, heavy cannon, you mean rocket launcher? And you grab that the first thing you do
nah,
I mean I use the rocket launcher sometimes, but it only has 9 missiles so I don't really use it much
precision bolt + rocket launcher deletes all demons. You should use that all the time in cultist base lol
how do sticky bomb quickswaps work? the shotgun seems to have a major cooldown after shoot
Meathook duh
Yes shit
i dont know
You have to fire the Precision Bolt first, then the Sticky Bomb would fire instantly after switching to the Combat Shotgun and holding down the two mouse buttons
Try to start quick swapping with it and the precision bolt mod for the heavy cannon for massive damage
m1 + m2, switch to combat shotgun while holding m2, m1?
yeah
but i have a problem with switching back to the pb, the cooldown seems to be inevitable
lemme see if I can record a quick video
Actually wait no my bad, you hold down M2 but you press M1 each time after switching.
If it's done correctly it should look something like this:
https://youtu.be/DL3ZpcMEWZQ
Ight thanks alot man
👍 hope it helps
I've only learned the tech fairly recently as a form of adhering to limitation, since I've been playing the Second Invasion mod recently and I need a way to deal a lot of damage quickly before getting the Rocket Launcher
mine is UAC
true i forgot that was a thing
Can complete the game with 10 extra lives and complete campaign with only 1 sentinel crystal and praetor suit point be done in the same playthrough at any difficulty?
yes👍
What the helll
actually energy shield blocks from cursed prowlers as well, you can literally just avoid getting cursed just by having your shield up, it’s neat
they were saying it doesn't protect from the DoT once you've been cursed
anyway could I get some advice on the "use the energy shield against the double toxic marauders" advice? How would that look? I feel like it'd just be more of an inconvenience in making me miss stun opportunities than anything
also is my general approach to taking these guys out any good? I'm doing SSG to stun quick swap to balissta quick swap back to SSG. Sometimes I'm not sure I'm hitting the second SSG shot tho
I'm not missing anything with the quick swap right? you just tap the weapon wheel button to swap back and forth after taking a shot?
oh yea sorry i just didn’t know what DoT stood for so I assumed they meant the cursed prowler in general
you won’t miss any stun opportunities, marauders don’t green light when you have the shield up
also I’ve always been under the impression that energy shield slows your walking speed but that is definitely not the case, I did a thing where I had a doom eternal speedometer on and walked with and without the shield and both the speeds were 9.6 m/s
by the way that’s insane for ingame movement speed if you think of it in context of real life, it means doomguys walking at approximately 21.47 miles per hour
fast boi
so how should I use it? I'm a bit confused lol
most optimally? maybe as a way to help the traversal of the arena, or as a sort of panic button. like you could meathook past the marauders and bring up eshield for when you do that then go to a zombie to restock or something, and if you’re at low health you could try to restock off the zombies with the shield up
I see...
i think i might have found a way to get eternal running on mac
but it requires me to learn more about random shit ive never seen before, more so than my biology exam 💀
DXVK, i hope, might be my saviour
The game Is vulkan native not dx
Yeah directX
it translates vulkan to directX
Other way around
oh
wonder if it uses vulkan on console
It shouldn't but i May Be wrong
I prefer ballista/SSG/ballista for a two-cycle marauder - really, you don't need anything more complex than that for dealing with marauders, though I'm sure more advanced stunlock techniques would help if you can pull them off. If you can't get in close for the SSG because the other marauder is nearby, use pb + ballista instead
Something I like to do is save the quad damage in the previous arena, then pop it and ballista boost/move as fast as possible to the double marauder trigger. Most of the time it will last just long enough that you can a quad damage weapon cycle off on one of the marauders when he behaves normally
Oohh that's smart, I'll try that next time
i just opened the game on PS4 and i looked at my save ITS BEEN NEARLY A YEAR SENSE I USED MY PS4 SAVE
tips for gladiator on unmodded playthrough?
I'm stuck on phase two, UV
Use meathook to stay on air and rain down rockets and stickies
hmmm
shoutout to doomguy's guitars, they're fucking sick
vomits intensely onto mancubus' face, before promptly killing him with a chainsaw
huh, the makyr drones in the khan makyr fight are different, kinda red
what's up with that? 🤔
There's not really any clear explanation to it lore-wise, but in the game files they are categorized differently
The normal Maykr Drones are named zombie_maykr, while the red ones from Khan Maykr boss fight are named maykr_minion
but they function the exact same
interesting...
probably nothing to look into, maybe something that was cut and all that remained was the unique design and they thought it was cool
internal data definitely not a good place to look at the least
Personally I like the red robes more, since it makes them more noticeable in busy fights and just looks cool in general
The Blood Maykrs from TAG 1 were Maykr Angels (such as the one that says "Welcome home, great Slayer" on Sentinel Prime) that got corrupted and received their red colors due to it
so I'm pretty sure the "normal" enemy Maykr Drones are the ones that's supposed to be red, with the ones on Urdak level still having their white robes
the makyr drones only appear in urdak tho no?
outside of slayer gates and dlc and stuff
unrelated
wtf is the "mysterious voice" that screams after you kill the Khan?
I thought it might be explained in the DLC but it like, never was
...also how did the makyrs strike a deal "with the dark lord" to build the big soul tower if the dark lord was busy being an orb
also lore question
why did they ruin all the cool story stuff they'd built up in the campaign and previous games in the dlc?
are they stupid?
Outside of Master Levels, they also appear in The Holt (which is where Blood Maykrs are introduced with their red exterior) and Immora, both of which are the third level of TAG 1 and TAG 2
It was changed to "Dark Lord" at some point, then changed back to "Mysterious Voice" after a while
There are actually 3 skins for the Maykr Drones, which are:
- The yellow-head ones from Urdak cutscenes pre-corruption
- The orange-head ones that you see as normal enemies (yes they are actually different than their cutscenes version)
- The red-robed ones from Khan Maykr boss fight
I'm not really too sure why, but the best thing I could say is that they definitely prioritized the rule of cool over anything else when crafting the story and lore
albeit they prioritized it way too much that it's hard to make sense of the story and lore's logic
😭
like the main campaign went a little too hard but it still followed well and actually made a pretty interesting world
and then the DLC (and frankly just the end of the campaign itself) is like, ok but what if we retconned all of that
There's a real ton of story inconsistencies and plot holes in Eternal that it's insane how this is the sequel to 2016 when it comes to the story quality
"let's ruin the two most interesting characters we've ever written"
2016's story and lore are way more simple and straightforward, but it's way easier to understand and as far as I know it has no weird plot holes when it comes to its own self-contained story
Meanwhile Eternal has a lot of nonsensical story decisions, like if awakening the Icon of Sin on Urdak would break the Holy Seal, why was he brought there in the first place?
hubris, apparently
at least they like, vaguely address that
tbh from Urdak on even Slayer himself acts really irrationally
why does he betray Samur? What did he do to you??
dude's been nothing but a bro
And if an embedded Crucible blade is the only way to kill a Titan, how come we see all those dead titans on Exultia's hell section and the Blood Swamps?
he destroys one god by just crushing its ball but then the other is like ok so this one actually you have to revive him to kill it
yeah
also why doesn't slayer refill his crucible after killing the icon for the DLC?
is he stupid?
dude the "is he stupid" meme has eaten out my brains...
My problem with Samur starts before that, like if he's going to undergo a rapid transfiguration, why did he go back to his Seraphim body??
And they had a weird out-of-nowhere exclamation on why he didn't just retrieve the Father's Sphere all by himself, with one line of dialogue "The Seraphim cannot retrieve the sphere, it is forbidden" from a super minor side character
Like I'm fine on making up a reason as to why he can't, but is that really the best reasoning they could come up with?
i mean they do about the same for explaining why you can't just crush the dark lord's sphere like you do the father's
"it's said that like you can't do that"
how come the facility voice greets slayer as the seraphim when he enters the cutscene in urdak? do they ever explain that at all?
And why is the ritual combat even a thing??? For someone who supposedly created the realm of Jekkad, Urdak and all the other dimensions plus their powerful beings, why did he just made some stuff up where he purposefully placed himself with something to lose
Like I said I'm fine with them making stuffs up since that's just the foundation of telling a story in general, but I'm really confused whenever they just come up with a really bad reasoning or just straight up give no reasoning at all.
i can't get over how the final boss of doom isn't some giant fucked up demon but rather evil doomguy in a giant mech
what the hell
Like why is the Gate of Divum, the only way to the most ancient part of hell, on Earth? There's literally no mentions as to why, not in dialogues or even codex entries.
it was just "there"
UAC are big fans
they own all the rarest merch
and like evil doomguy could be cool if he was like some dark reflection or something but no he's actually the devil and god creator of everything and doomguy is, idk a copy??
As far as I know the Maykrs also have no authority over the Wraiths, hence why the Betrayed did all the stuffs he did and made the Wraiths into energy siphons on Argent d'Nur back at 2016, but VEGA somehow became the one who gave us access to the World Spear
That part is because of covid
fucking covid man
it's ruined all my videogames!!
They had planned for different phases of the Dark Lord, including one where we actually fight him in-person without the giant mech suit, but couldn't manage to do it
ok that makes sense, I was pretty surprised I didn't get to fight him one on one
but it doesn't really fix the issue of the final boss of doom being
evil doomguy (who is the devil and also original creator god)
at least him being in a giant mech makes it kinda funny
there's so much I don't get about the world spear and honestly I don't even care to understand it
I just everything past nekroval didn't happen, it works much better that way
do they like
ever even really explain what the fuck a crucible even is?
like first of all I'm not sure they understand what the word means because a crucible is like, a mould for casting metal
but then it's like, ok so a "crucible" here is some kind of, energy sword
except there's this "demonic" one that's also a power source or something and uhh
slayer has one but it's like different and..?
Naming stuffs with english words that has no particular relation with the stuffs it's naming is nothing new
"crucible" sounds pretty cool at least
Yeah I'm pretty sure they just went with it because it's a cool word, and it is
oh huh
the uac hologram lady at the start of final sin calls you the "doom marine" rather than slayer
I think that's the only instance of the term used in the game..?
Also the word "Argent" is supposed to mean silver or white metal, and yet it's used to refer to a red energy here since it's a cool word
That's just a callback easter egg I'm pretty sure
Which blue are you talking about
it's funny how inconsistent the colouring of energy types is in this game when it's like, it should be the easiest thing
I particularly remember it being primarily blue in 2016 when it was the big focus
hell energy is red, refined into argent is blue
but then in Eternal you have like
Sentinel energy which is blue, and hell energy is still red, but argent is often red now too
but in some cases it's still blue??
but then like the crucible blade is supposedly like wraith energy I think, which is the main component of sentinel energy I think? but that one's red
dude did the well produce hell energy or straight argent? I don't remember
Ah right 2016, the Argent energy at base is red, but after going through the Argent filter it becomes blue which is primarily for human usage
It's not really clear, but the most logical explanation I can think of is that the Wraith produces pure Sentinel Energy which is then transported to Nekravol to be combined with Hell Energy
As for their colors well... at this point just don't think too much about it
but the well was described as like the source of hell's power, no? so it had to either produce hell energy or argent
Samuel says the crucible after absorbing the power of the well is the greatest source of argent, which suggests that's what the well made
Sentinel and Wraith Energy seems to refer to the same thing, but Sentinel Energy weaponry (such as the ones used by the troops) is blue while the Hellbreaker which uses Wraith Energy in the codex entry, is red
hellbreaker?
the Sentinel Hammer
ah
At this point just don't think too much about it lol
right god, I forgot about all that stuff
it's hurting my brain too
it'd kinda make sense if like it was argent because the wraiths provide one component and if there's anywhere to get a source of hell energy it's the middle of hell, right?
anyway again back to my point, it's like
how did they fuck up with colour coding the magic sauce it's literally the easiest thing
make the good energy blue and the evil energy red
like they do the second part pretty alright ig but you fuck up the other one??
Like I said, just rule of cool prioritization
take me back to the good old days of doom when things made sense (2016)
there's just
one corpse here lit on fire by a green flame
do green flames appear anywhere else in the game?? lol
Maybe they didn't go for stereotypical colouring cause it's dumb 
you're right..... i could never hope to understand the great minds behind this story
they were just defying norms, as they always have
oh yeah
why is the icon like, this cosmic being of power that warps reality just by existing and will cause the whole world to be consumed
like do they ever explain that.. at all?
all the other titans are just big bois
it's not like the icon had much preëxisting lore to be overwritten but
big glowup from "exploding wall", to say the least
actually doesn't the icon appear in 2016 as a stage prop or something? it had some lore there didn't it?
ugh, i keep forgetting this story is all nonsense 🙄
The icon is just a very magically inclined titan
huh
apparently it's possbile to just
lose demons
ran out of ammo against a baron, just a baron, no fodder
just kinda, ran back a bit looking for ammo (no luck)
but the dude like, dipped lol
Weird there was no fodder, or was it just a hallway fight
clicks with crucible on archvile
slices zombie
it's uhh in that one building in Final Sin, the one where you jump in through a hole in the wall from the top of a building higher up, there's a bunch of demons infighting including a tyrant
a buff totem spawns after you take out enough of them
after you clear all that you get ambushed by some revenants and a hell knight, and after that and you ascend further there's like, a mancubus, revenant, maybe another knight? and a baron
Oh yeah that's just a hallway fight
the funny thing is I think I had this issue my last playthrough too lol
running low on ammo here, no fodder
dude are the icon's lines in this game also reversed speach or do they just sound like it
How far in?
just finished the unmodded playthrough
funny how it was easier than my original one in some ways... character growth
Lowkey I'm debating doing my extra lives run on nightmare. Could either be a fun challenge or a massive mistake.
On one hand, I got through the whole game on UV with (almost) out upgrades. On the other, that was with a lot of dying at many points...
to a doom hunter
Like the boss doom hunter or just a guy?
He's not too bad, goes down quicker than you'd expect
yeah but im just bad at killing him
Try practicing for some, otherwise they'll be ending your runs pretty often
ill try them on some easier dificulties
I have conquered ultra nightmare exultia (Im gonna do one mission per day to try out my theory that ultra nightmare only exhaust and weakens you when you play longer without a break)
UN is more stressful for most so a theory that's highly likely
Bet
same
At least for me that theory is correct, case in point normaly I have no problem with Gladiator but, that boy has claimed many of my UN attempts. Id advise you , to play the game on Nightmare dif. In one sitting till the end multiple times. That way you can "simulate" your nerves getting weaker and Identify problem spots.
tbh after a while you just don't care about messing up, you just keep hitting the wall until it breaks, and you also get better
see the challenges don't change, so you can find the most optimal strategies and overcome them
I'm stupid I forgot I don't have ps plus so ignore my message 💀
i play doom on my playstation 4
Same
Me that is on nekroval
When did you start
With doom?
Doom eternal
I had Xbox account so like 2 years ago
But my Xbox account got removed so i had to make a New account 
Or December
And on my new one that i started in 24 December i became a good player
Not that good like doom tubers
I'm not that good
What is your level
I forgot honestly
My is 57
I'm playing it for 5th time
There is a sentinel skin
Are you talking about the marauder skin
I forgot the actual name of it
Yall know any good areas in de to practice tech on? Ive been meaning to practice the fast dblade and lock on tech but cant ever seem to find an infinite spawn of demons to practice on
the thing in the fortress of doom
the practice area
But first I have to fight Khan maykr 
Holy moly
Khan is easy, just lock on rockets
Ik
I should be save because I got max upgrade on every weapon
Except for BFG 9000 and unmaykr
Hello.
Hey, out of curiosity, I'm looking for some people for next week on if they could help me out with unlocking the Battle mode achievements on Xbox
I suppose that works
Considering servers are empty for the game, I figured the other option is to do private matches
Double lock on tech helps immensely
hey y’all uh is tag 2 harder than the base campaign? like in general?
I beat tag 2’s first level on nightmare for the gold super shotgun, and I had rarely any trouble at all. if the base campaign on nightmare is on that same level of difficulty i could think about giving UN a try or two
I know tag 1 is typically considered harder than the base campaign (I think) but idk about tag 2
Depends tbh. The base game differs in a few major ways
A UN requires a fresh start, while you are at max power (minus the hammer upgrades) starting tag 2. Most runs of UN die before they get past SGN because there's little room for error with how limited your kit is. The hammer upgraded, and even without upgrades, is pretty cracked and spamming it makes the DLC pretty simple.
If you went through the level without using the hammer and did all the challenges without trouble, then I'd guess you could probably get UN of the base game done relatively easily with enough prep. But I'm guessing that's not how you played the level, as most people like to use the new thing they've been given.
i may or may not have forgotten the hammer existed until the mid way when I had to fight the stone imps, then proceeded to forget about it again lmao
Damn you're cracked
i am?
Basegame UN and tag UN aren't comperable, one is more an endurance test where you have no equipment at first, and the other is a much shorter set of levels where you actually perform fully
It's time to fight icon of sin 🫡
🫡
Yo I beat the super gore nest master level on ultra nightmare on a console
Dude
Did they ever explain what the hell was up with those medallions and the hell priests?
Dude what is your issue
basically it will preserve there soul until a body is found
like insturance but for the soul
and the hell priest were previous sentinel priest but sided with the khan maykr betrying the sentinels including the doom slayer
and there guardians are basically safes for the medallions
Ok but like
Did they ever actually explain what the deal with them is??
Where did they come from? How do they work? How did doomguy get the first one?
They're just there
prob was a guardian of the first one we killed or we killed the guardian in the past
Actually the entire first priest feels really weird
Like he's kinda just there
You just walk in and rip his head off
Coulda had like some little tutorial boss or something
I dont think thats a good idea
Yea that'd be cool
But idk of it'd hit the same after they shat all over the lore in TAG
a old man vs the doom slayer is over kill
Could be a chance to retcon things into not sucking though
No like, against a guardian lol
well it was the end of the story so they did have to that
also the skins of doom slayer are from different universes meaning the multiverse in doom is real
Right but they didn't have to ruin all the cool lore they'd built up with weird plot twists and saying everything was orchestrated or whatever
As well as their two most interest characters
well doom might be in a time loop
??
tag 2 you are in a coffin before waking up in a coffin before killing the invasion two times before being put in a coffin
He was on his way to the council
To the building with the two priest at the begging
I don't see how that suggests a time loop
The first coffin is explained and the second one is after some clear occurrences
well I heard it as a theory from somewhere but anyways they should have kept hayden as a robot longer then turning him into a angel even we only see him as gojo in eternal, we should have saw him walking
You lost me in the second half of that message but I agree
Samuel and VEGA were like the two best characters and then they were like
Ok but what if all their lore was actually a lie and they were actually gods
Mmmm
Dude I'm so pissed about TAG lore 😭
The fact a ton of the writing just doesn't make sense is honestly a positive because it makes it easier to disregard as a whole lol
but its cool they brought back betrayer
well after eternal the slayer hunts down stragglers before finding out demons can be sealed within hell if he fights davoth in combat and the father wants to stop slayer so slayer destroys the thing that can bring him back in physical form before fighting davoth
Father wants to stop slayer? When is that said?
basically the father is a false god and davoth is the true god
all sons love there father
Considering the father usurped and sealed davoth idk about that
davoth loved his creations much he got sealed for it
maykrs are offically the mistake of doom lore
Though, actually
Yeah the father did have a soft spot for davoth, couldn't bring himself to destroy him
I liked the makyrs, it was everything above them that was a mistake if you ask me
I think it would be much cooler if the biblical narrative was applied to the doom universe, imagine the doom slayer being gifted a burning sword from Christ and Instead of rip and tear he yells Deus vult like the crusaders
Lol, idk about that
well doom basically flips the entire story of the bible
its possible things change while doom slayer is asleep
Like we already have demons and hell so why not a "heaven" with gods?
And like they're kinda evil too so it's like humanity against the divine
But then the gods have a god and the god god has a supergod and supergod is actually the devil and it's like
Guys you've lost it
hell is actualy the first heaven before davoth got sealed
I'm aware
we need a longer davoth boss fight tbh
I hear it got cut due to covid
too easy for the end of the story
It's whatever. The final boss of doom being evil doomguy in a giant mech is kinda funny at least
how do you guys like to swap weapons? do you ever actually use the direct binds or do you just scroll or weapon wheel em?
Um. Um
wow, the loremaster shut down...
Oh FUCK OFF I hate this goddamn bot. Fuck off!
😭
Anyway. True? Factual??
huh, that'd be cool
Sorry. We know that's exciting, but Bethesda policy. Can't allow that discussion on the server.
@azure oriole
damn
no fun allowed huh
A higher power commands it
😔
can I do the bat out of hell milestone with cheat codes
yea
cool
i recommend party mode and quakecon
Ah yes, those cheat codes will be sure to positively affect my gameplay and make the milestone 10x easier!
the power of a moral boost is not to be underestimated
as the slayer draws strength from his fallen foes, so too can you draw strength from the roar of the crowd
Ah, alright. Will keep in mind.
what discussion
we cannot speak of it, it is forbidden
also can i do weapon mastery in the demon prison
what discussion

but what if i accidentally discussd it because i didnt know it wasnt allowed
we'll tell you if you do
👀 something seems to be happening
Sorry, I'm a chicken
Keybinds 100%, only way you can quick switch between many different weapons
🤔
I don't feel confident in moving my hand to the right key then getting back to WASD quickly in the middle of a fight lol
You just need to find the keys that work for you and practice a lot
also some good advice don’t feel like you need absurdly complex keybinds either, I consider myself a decent doom player and my keybinds are default except for a few minor modifications like BFG and chaingun on my mouse side buttons, and grenade on T.
Is it suboptimal to have weapons bound to scroll wheel?
Feels like it's a bit slower but idk
maybe, but if you wanted to try, it’d definitely take some getting used to considering your shooting buttons are right next to it, and if you wanted anything bound to clicking down the scroll wheel you might encounter issues there too
I have ballista and SSG bound to scroll wheel and my only worry is that it was slower than normal keys
i mean it just depends on how quickly you're able to hit it
If i wanted to do the Cant Perfect Perfection milestone on extra lives mode (itytd), what do i upgrade with the sentinel crystal?
ammo ig
Ammo
for praetor upgrade i chose hot swapper
you just gotta play the game with keynbinds in mind and you'll get used to it. it's kinda rough on a regular mouse and keyboard though. I'd recommend getting a mouse with at least 2 extra buttons on it, unless you're going to remap the scroll wheel. I don't because it just doesn't feel right.
Not health?
you literally dont need it on itytd
every demon does inferior damage
Alright i guess
Nope. It's I'm Too Young To Die and HP isn't even your concern here
Ammo it is
You don't need health if you have enough ammo to kill everything. This still applies to higher difficulties imo.
Depends on your skill level
Yeah. Also it depends or your Playstyle
I'm always pulling out the ammo hungry tricks, even early on, so I need that ammo lol
my playstyle is ssg ballista everything (i use a controller)
I got all in. I'm pressing every button manually for swaps and I have a macro on my mouse for bunny hopping lol. I'm rusty as fuck rn tho. Hoping the rumors of something to revitalize the game next week come true.
I think that most of the people used that playstyle at least once
and its a fairly decent playstyle
I dont think i have a specofic playstyle since i havent played in a good bit
Im also very trash lol
It's reliable and most importantly: easy
i used a similar combo in 2016 (because i did eternal before 2016)
yeah you're not wrong, there's nightmare no health damage runs of master levels on youtube
I am not good enough to do no damage. I'm way too stupid.
I started using it during my Nightmare playthrough of 2016 (It was after I did Eternal)
And in my case: My playstyle is way too aggressive to do a no damage
two shot ssg and the gauss cannon is a peak combo
that's practically impossible outside of boss fights and certain individual arena fights
another advantage to playing on ITYTD is ammo pick ups give more ammo
you can no damage hell on earth reasonably easily but after that it's joever for full level runs
Yeah Eternal is just not a game designed around the possibility of taking no damage lol
The enemy AI is just way too agressive
Neither was GTA V, but they were able to do it
idk most specifics but plasma in specific goes from 30 per pickup to 45
yes but GTA V has cover system
True
cover doesn't work in de and you have no way of leaving combat without cheesing the no damage requirement
chaingun shield:
yeah except it doesn't fully make up for bad decisionmaking
at the point you gain access to cgs, IL no damage is impossible anyway
what i'm talking about is skips that don't go out of bounds but skip significant combat sections
probably the single worst addition to de btw
id, please filter the scrubs in the next game
this sounds like something ltg would say😭
I think it's a good stepping stone, aside from it's implementation in Battle Mode but it was removed anyways. Good way to practice and get better and good players don't need to bother using it.
My mouse has 2 extra buttons but I use them for use/punch and grenade
I have punch on E. I used to have it on middle click but then middle click stopped working lol.
I have middle click on mod swap
Used to be switched with grenade but I changed it so I could shoot one during alt fire more easily
And then found out the problem is actually my mouse just lacks the ability to do more than two presses at once lol
I'm considering getting a new mouse with more buttons tho so
I have punch on F so I can easily switch between PB and rovket with E and Q
My full layout is pretty standard until Ballista
1: Combat Shotgun
2: Heavy Cannon
3: Plasma Rifle
4: Rocket Launcher
5: SSG
X: Ballista
Z: Chaingun
Quick Swap: Q
Mod Swap: R
Punch: E
BFG/Unmaykr: T
Chainsaw: F
Super Weapon: C
(Regular fire and alt fire at mb1/2 like normal)
Grenade: Mouse button 4
Grenade Swap: Ctrl
Flame Belch: Mouse button 5
Jump macro: Mouse button 6
I paid for a nice keyboard and goddamn it I'm gonna use (half of) it.
Jump macro?
Yeah so, I just have a button which spams jump. It helps keep momentum when holding charges on stuff like Ballista or just keeping massive speed from SSG grapple
Damn
Cheating smh
It's kind of impossible to be consistent with it otherwise, and speedrunners use it so I figured I'd try it
Fair
I think my binds are:
Rocket launcher: Q
Heavy Cannon: E
Chaingun: CAPS
Ballista: mouse down
SSG: mouse up
Plasma rifle: 2
Combat shotgun: T
Flame belch: R
Punch: F
Chainsaw: X
Switch grenade: G
Launch grenade: LCTRL
Dash: LSHIFT
Mod swap: TAB
Hammer/crucible: V
Idk where I have BFG💀
Moving and firing is normal
For me:
Combat Shotgun: 5
Heavy Cannon: 2
Plasma: 3
Rocket: 1
SSG: Scroll Up
Ballista: Scroll down
Chaingun: 4
(Rest are unchanged)
tried ultra nightmare, died in cultist base, now I have no motivation to try again
most stressful experience of my life
everything just felt really cramped and awkward tbh
Yeah Ultra Nightmare is more about endurance than anything
cultist base is a pretty good run tbh. that's about the place where a lot of runs end
past ARC complex it's kind of a breeze since you have most of your tools at th at point
dude
the codex confuses me
there's no entry for the mecha zombies, and multiple times I've gotten a notification for a "zombie cultist" entry yet found nothing
zombie cultists are the ones that you find in the center room at cultist base. the ones wearing the red clothes. They're not exactly special, they can't attack you and die to literally any damage.
probably just a weird bug that u get the notif for them repeatedly
b
ok so
in the main campaign I get the notification for their entry in the Mars Core level, near a particular secret
and I also get it when I start TAG1
but, the thing is
there's no actual codex entry
lol yeah im pretty sure it doesnt exist. sometimes it feels like DE is held together by gum and toothpicks
bethesder
at least it's not as annoying as the bug in 2016 where it'd always display some specific entries as new
holy shit I have the same thing
bethesder
is there a lore reason why the zombie cultists have no actual codex? is ID stupid?
TRUE
am I stupid
@drowsy hound It's an unused codex entry and is not present in the codex listings
why would ID leave it unused? are they stupid?
It's just placeholder texts
the mecha zombies are just tankier zombies with ranged attacks
still die to literally any source of damage
why did I play through horde mode multiple times just for the icon of sin podium? am I stupid?
(that one dual marauder buff totem thing near the end will always scare me)
the dual buffed marauders were a massive roadblock for me when i did my first run
They forgot to replace/remove the Zombie Cultist codex entry as their codex loot drop
evade the marauders and focus on the turret shield
real. like holy hell, two buffed up marauders is one thing, but turrets guarding the buff totem? like what the fuck
theres a portal that takes you directly to the turret shield
I'm leaving horde mode for last, figured "game over" was a good final achievement
game got me feeling like I’m playing dead by daylight instead
just keep going through it and back
I wish this game had a cool final achievement, 2016's "A Toe Into Madness" worked really well for that
here my only options are like
Running Up the High Score, Blood Bath, and Game Over
dblade the turrets😭
Bloodbath is the rarest but I'm not having a grindy multiplayer achievement as my final accomplisment lol
thats what i initially did on my first
and Running Up The High Score is... idk, it feels too gimmicky? and the name doesn't have any good finality
it took me 70% less time to just ballista pb them
Game Over is just as if not more gimmicky but at least the name works out alright
isnt that the rarest achievement on xbox
idk
I'm on Steam
actually yeah it is
im stupid what the hell is a dblade
0.18% earned
what the hell
is a dblade
it's 2.2 on Steam
above the extra life achievements for TAG 1 and 2 (1.3 and 1.1) and Bloodbath (1.0)
i think just “high score” would’ve been like
10x better
i was wrong its not running up the high score
its live die reload, running up the high score is 0.68% on xbox
with 2nd being weapons expert and 3rd being game over
game over, game over will be my last
it just works the best
my last achievements are truce between demons and blood bath
(because that literally is all i have left)
aka the worst ones 🙂
y'all I need tips against cybermancubi
these guys fuck me up idk what I'm doing wrong
easy solution: punch with the chaingun shield up
other solution: freeze/concuss them before going for the punch
my solution: shoot the fuck out of them with long range weapons. they go down pretty fast to any heavy cannon combo
I usually will save chainsaw pips for them, since imo they are the toughest enemy that you have the ability to chainsaw. If I dont have chainsaw pips then any of the solutions carbvan mentioned work as well.
destroyer blade
the mod for the ballista
that shit gets slept on by too many people. its so crazy powerful
icebomb + bloody punch + ssg
they are the toughest chainsawable in eternal and the toughest chainsawable in 2016 (i think)
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why do people always call it "the arbelast" when that's the name of the mod lol
the weapon is the balista
sample size of like, 1 guy or something
I prefer Quick swap techniques like ballista Rocket Launcher
two guys!
this guy rambles so much lol
fellas, TAG1M1 through with 5 extra lives
how's my pace looking?
What difficulty?
UV
you can pre-charge it during quiet parts or before the spawns, plus it's damage is insane for groups
dude on the arblast actually
why does it like
do less damage than a regular shot against bosses lol
the hell
Rocket launcher is mostly useful for slobs. Besides that I think other weapons are better - I'd even say that PB rockets aren't much anymore if you are just trying to do damage.
I know but i don't use dblade
ok but like, you could 
Makes things top much easy
I used to but i like to track and shit, and It Is Just op xD
I know, but the highest DPS swap combo Is ballista Rocket launcher with bats
bats?
It's a bring up animation technique
but that’s not even true
Is as fast as pb Rocket Launcher
But instead of pb you use ballista
Hold on let me make a video real quick
Sure
But you basically burn the ballista and rocket ammo faster then. For raw damage wouldn't it be easier to do SSG punch swaps?
punch swaps?
have you even HEARD of ssg bal??? smh my head
Yeah definetly but i meant Quick swapping with other weapons not punches
That's slow though
If i fight marauders i either use feet or lob tech
you guys are just making shit up now
fucken
feet lobsters or whatever
that's probably some kinda fetish smh
Go to YouTube and just search those terms. You'll learn that way.
Only two things i found make the game so much easier are air control and shield mod. Everything else is aight - debatable on LoB
Lob Is definetly cheesy too
You don't really have to aim with that weapon, for me It only make sense against marauders
But yeah air control too Is kinda broken
Lob is an evil needed for marauders imo
hmm, didn't think this through
used my one free support rune on the rune I'm not allowed to equip in extra lives mode...
Fighting a lot of marauders without It feels painful
Marauders are just boring after a while. Like they just promote anti combat - I'm sure there are probably ways to 1 cycle them without SLOBs, but I never got there
0 cycle them by shooting ballistas through fodder 
Loool
oh lob is lock on barrage
Burst*
is there like
a wiki going over all this tech lol
also funnily enough ssg ballista has more damage output than both of these if you BATS your ballista into SSG. Not used in speedruns because dblade is useful and so are ballista boosts. also cuz punchswapping ssg even without bloodpunch does more damage than all three of those.
It's impossible to find a battle mode game
I wrote a document in the pinned messages in this channel but it was made when I was less experienced
Very unfortunate for the switch
is that the best resource available?
It’s expansive I guess, most tech are relegated to specific tutorials but this one just covers a bunch of them
Subscribe to Thermodynamics literally everywhere and any time. Your participation is predetermined.
This covers all the general/non-area-specific combat tech that speedrunners do.
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There’s this video I guess
ooh christ, buffed marauder in blood swamps nearly gave me some trouble...
the lasers in the holt won’t deactivate after i shoot the green target
near the second secret encounter
Just beat TAG 2 on NM 
That's cool but tag 1 is much harder ngl
Yeah it is thats why I'm doing it rn
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Haha yeah
It does that 🙃
I just got zombie slayer in 2024 after 3 years
There's an easy solution though
Just finish the level and play it again 🙂
Oh hm, how?
So I singed up in 2021 for slayers club but I never got it so I contacted them today and they gave it to me 3 years later
Oh damn nice lol
I know right better late then never isn't it one of the only impossible ones to get now
I only got the game a couple weeks ago but I still got them, made my account way way back.
I made my slayers club account way way way back in 2019
uh oh
halfway through the holt with only 6 lives
I think I can make it to the boss with em but I hope I don't choke out there...
ugh, I had 9 at one point in this stage
Here's a tip for the Samur fight, when he throws his projectiles, you actually don't need to move too much to dodge it
just stand still in one spot, and move slightly to the left and right to dodge them
For Possessed demons, Lock-On Rockets are your most reliable friend
or for just almost anything really
nooo both lives lost on the last phase 😭
and of course right after that I beat it flawlessly...
it's ok though, now I've got it
His name is Samur? I called him seraphim boss lmao
did. you not pay attention to the story?
I mean I can't totally blame you the story does rather suck
but also like that was one of the parts that didn't suck so...
dude
can you save and quit mid-level in extra lives mode?
huh
they probably said something ignorant and got called out
perchance
His real name is Samur Maykr, "Seraphim" is his title
Same shit then
I still called him by title just like how I call davoth as dark lord
Or how we call doomguy slayer
is there anyone who wouldnt mind jumping into dms with me to help me troubleshoot why im not reciving the gunplestionist achivement in doom eternal? Its like the one thing stoping me from 100%ing the game on steam
I hear it bugs out, not sure what the fix is. You may just have to do another playthrough
well im not sure i actually mastered all the guns but im having trouble checking what i dont have mastered
is it just me or does the normal shotgun like kinda suck? its range feels so tiny and it doesn't do very meaningful damage unless you hit it perfectly, which is super hard on most of the fodder since they move around so much
and on anything more than fodder you'd just wanna SSG them
my playthrough was like 6 months ago so its been a second
just check the arsenal tab of your dossier
yeah im there and it seems like I have everything mastered but I dont have the acheivemnt so im not positive
then it may have just bugged out
you're in the main campaign, right?
yeah
idk, if you've gotten all the mods, bought all the upgrades, completed all the masteries
do you know what it would look like if it wasnt mastered?
I think they glow brighter in the menu if mastered
but like if it's not it should be easy, the mastery upgrage will just say you don't have it and what you need to complete for it
Would you mind if i dmed you and just streamed my game to show you?
post a screenshot in #screenshots
I just posted a screenshot
seriously like am I missing something or is there just no reason to use this lol
sticky bombs
i need like a visualization of its spread because it feels inconsistent as hell
for cacodemons
right, yeah
correction, the primary fire
i mean it is just an early game weapon
but every other weapon in the game maintains some reason to exist
you get the heavy cannon in the first level but it's still really good throughout
yea but it is used for both of its mods
so the shotgun is also used for its mods
ok but like
just using it as a shotgun sucks! what the hell!

